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Speaker 2: Today, Hey everybody, this is Less Striving.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I.
Speaker 4: Know aka Survivor Man and you're listening to Brian on Sasquatchisy.
Speaker 1: Hey there, and welcome back to Sasquatch Odyssey. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for being with us for the show.
Speaker 2: It is Friday. I hope you've had.
Speaker 1: An amazing week. We have a phenomenal guest lined up
Speaker 1: for you, but as always, I want.
Speaker 2: To start by inviting you.
Speaker 1: If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be
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Speaker 1: a Brian at Paranormalworldproductions dot com. You can head over
Speaker 1: to the website check it out, become a memory there
Speaker 1: and help support this show. I got to sit down
Speaker 1: and talk to Jason Kinzie. He is a Canadian bigfoot researcher, experiencer,
Speaker 1: and filmmaker who at this point has done thirteen bigfoot
Speaker 1: documentary films. I got to meet Jason while I was
Speaker 1: speaking down at the Great Florida Bigfoot Conference back in June.
Speaker 1: He is a phenomenal dude, really fun guy. He really
Speaker 1: gets out and does boots on the ground research and
Speaker 1: he has found some really interesting things that he's included
Speaker 1: in these films, and I'm going to link to his
Speaker 1: YouTube channel so you can go and check all that
Speaker 1: stuff out. All of his films stream on multiple streaming platforms.
Speaker 1: Two B is probably the best place to find his
Speaker 1: searching for sasquatch documentaries one through thirteen. Jason is here
Speaker 1: now to tell us about some of those amazing experiences
Speaker 1: that he's had. He's seen these things through thermal He's
Speaker 1: had some really cool vocalizations which I play for you
Speaker 1: here during this interview. It's a phenomenal interview. I think
Speaker 1: you are really going to enjoy. So that said, all
Speaker 1: this left for you to do is sit back, relax
Speaker 1: and enjoy the show.
Speaker 2: Hard.
Speaker 1: I want to work on our guests to the show.
Speaker 1: It is Jason from Canada. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Thanks having me.
Speaker 1: I'm glad to have you. Let's get right into it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about bigfoot, We're gonna talk about sasquorts.
Speaker 1: But I'm interested in your first career, which is photojournalism
Speaker 1: and animal photography. Let's talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 1: That has got to be one of the funnest jobs
Speaker 1: out there you get to run it around in the
Speaker 1: woods and take pictures of cool ass animals. Let's talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about that, and that's move into the
Speaker 1: bigfoot stuff.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 4: Way back when I started photography, I was doing events
Speaker 4: and weddings. Then one day I had just did this
Speaker 4: event and this guy.
Speaker 3: Came to me.
Speaker 4: He said, I want you to take a picture of
Speaker 4: my dog. I was like, really, the dog, so do
Speaker 4: you want to be in the picture now? I just
Speaker 4: want my dog. Took me back a little bit. I'm like, oh, okay.
Speaker 4: I didn't know at the time that people want pictures
Speaker 4: with their animals, with their pets. So I meet up
Speaker 4: with him and I'm taking these pictures of his dog.
Speaker 4: It went really well, and he told me a story
Speaker 4: about his dog that kind of blew me away. From there,
Speaker 4: I thought, okay, maybe other people had cool stories about
Speaker 4: their pets. So every time I would meet someone with
Speaker 4: a dog or with a cat and I would take
Speaker 4: their photos, I'd ask them questions about a story about
Speaker 4: their animals. And one day some guy came to me
Speaker 4: and said, I have a pet Cayman, which is like
Speaker 4: a crocodile or an alligator, and he had it in
Speaker 4: a special bathtub in his basement. He wanted me to
Speaker 4: go and take photos off his cayman. I told my
Speaker 4: friends and they were all excited, but they didn't believe me.
Speaker 4: They said, why would someone have a crocodile color creature
Speaker 4: in their bathtub?
Speaker 3: So I bought a video camera.
Speaker 4: To film behind the scenes of my photosheets and it
Speaker 4: was such an amazing photo shoot video shoot that from
Speaker 4: there on, I started taking a video camera to film
Speaker 4: behind the scenes, and then I would get people from
Speaker 4: all over the world hiring me to photograph exotic animals,
Speaker 4: from bears to cougars, tigers, giant alligators, huge spiders, monkeys, kangaroos, wolves,
Speaker 4: A lady a Skatswan had five wolves, some Arctic gray wolf,
Speaker 4: all these different wolves. I flew out there and took
Speaker 4: photos and I interviewed them, and that's how I started
Speaker 4: doing all these exotic animals and going all over the
Speaker 4: world and it was amazing.
Speaker 3: I loved it.
Speaker 4: Then when the pandemic hit and everything got shut down,
Speaker 4: I couldn't do my animal adventures. So I'd started a
Speaker 4: web series called Jason Kenzie's Animal Adventures, and I would
Speaker 4: put them on my YouTube channel and it basically was
Speaker 4: behind the scenes of my exotic animal photoshoots for the
Speaker 4: pandemic hit. I was able to travel. I was going
Speaker 4: completely crazy.
Speaker 3: What am I going to do?
Speaker 4: I'm basically just pacing back and forth. And someone said
Speaker 4: to me, why don't you do sasquatch. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 4: a huge skeptic when it comes to a big foot.
Speaker 4: I thought, Okay, maybe I'll look into it because they
Speaker 4: could possibly be an animal. Me knowing animals, I went
Speaker 4: and interviewed someone who allegedly said they saw one of
Speaker 4: these creatures. It was fascinating. Then he sent me to
Speaker 4: a First Nation's person. They told me about their experiences.
Speaker 4: I started interviewing them about it. Then they sent me
Speaker 4: into the wilderness. I wanted to see if maybe I
Speaker 4: could possibly come close to these creatures if I went
Speaker 4: and I took a helicopter dropped in. I found hundreds
Speaker 4: of these giant footprints in a lake, and I took
Speaker 4: a drone with me and I droned the top of
Speaker 4: the lake and you could see all these footprints. I
Speaker 4: found other stuff. I found trees that were upside down.
Speaker 4: They were carried and slammed into the ground. Trees were
Speaker 4: probably about twenty five feet tall and probably about three
Speaker 4: feet in diameter, so they were pretty big. I found
Speaker 4: other footprints, lots of tree structures, but the footprints blew
Speaker 4: me away. I showed these to the First Nations people
Speaker 4: in the area and they said that I found their
Speaker 4: migration path of the Sasquatch people coming from Alaska all
Speaker 4: the way down the California then back. I decided to
Speaker 4: put this into my first documentary called Searching Casasquatch. People
Speaker 4: loved it. I started getting phone calls and emails from
Speaker 4: people who wanted me to come out to their conferences
Speaker 4: and go out with them because they wanted to show
Speaker 4: me their areas where they have their experiences but these creatures.
Speaker 4: So I decided to film another Searching for Sasquats documentary.
Speaker 4: I went to up of Michigan and there was a
Speaker 4: big book confidence. I was able to speak there and
Speaker 4: I was able to meet a lot of people there
Speaker 4: that had experiences. Then the group that hired me, they
Speaker 4: took me to the up.
Speaker 3: I had met up.
Speaker 4: With one researcher that was teaching me things about what
Speaker 4: these creatures do, breaking branches as they walk and twisting
Speaker 4: them and breaking them. So he was pointing them out
Speaker 4: to me. I'm still a skeptic. But back to Michigan,
Speaker 4: we found this huge tree X. So there's one tree
Speaker 4: that looked like it was pushed over because you could
Speaker 4: see the roots, but the other one looked like it
Speaker 4: was ripped on the ground and moved over and placed
Speaker 4: into next and then there was another tree on top
Speaker 4: of it. Turned to everyone and I said, Okay, I'm
Speaker 4: going to put the hammockup and I'm going to sleep
Speaker 4: under this sex. Everyone was like, you're crazy, because these
Speaker 4: sexes mean stop, don't go any further, don't go beyond
Speaker 4: this point. They believe that Bigfoot actually makes these three
Speaker 4: axes for either us or for other Bigfoot creatures to
Speaker 4: know that this is their territory. Me, I just don't care. Remember,
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, Okay, the problem not real. That night, I'm
Speaker 4: sleeping in the hammock. All of a sudden, I hear
Speaker 4: crap and opened my eyes and I hear crunching. Something's
Speaker 4: walking towards me. And as it's walking, I could feel
Speaker 4: the vibration of every step off the rope of the hammock,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh my god, is it must be
Speaker 4: a giant pig or maybe a bear, even though everyone
Speaker 4: said there wasn't bears in the area. It stopped, I
Speaker 4: think it stopped about ten or fifteen feet right beside me,
Speaker 4: and it grunted my ear, scared the out of me,
Speaker 4: and I started shaking uncontrollably, and I'm trying to stop it.
Speaker 4: Then it turned and it started walking away, and I unzipped.
Speaker 4: I tried filming, but I couldn't see anything. Then I
Speaker 4: yelled out because I was with another research too that
Speaker 4: was about twenty feet away from me under a tree.
Speaker 4: He was sleeping, So I yelled for David's name, and
Speaker 4: David's Jason. I'm here, what's up? Unzipped and I jumped
Speaker 4: out and I'm like, I look over and there's David
Speaker 4: sleeping and he's all bundled up. I'm like, well, I said,
Speaker 4: was that you walking around? And he said no, I
Speaker 4: was sleeping. You woke me up when he yelled my name.
Speaker 4: I'm like, are you kidding me? You didn't hear what
Speaker 4: just happened? So we looked around for footprints and I
Speaker 4: didn't see anything. So I went back and I told
Speaker 4: her rule what happened. They were all fascinated, but you know,
Speaker 4: in my mind, I just thought that maybe they thought
Speaker 4: that I was making it up because here's the new guy.
Speaker 4: I haven't had an experience, and now here I'm saying
Speaker 4: this is what happened, even though they said, oh my gosh,
Speaker 4: this as wow. So later on, I think a couple
Speaker 4: of days later, one of the researchers walked up and said, hey,
Speaker 4: all right, I put a recorder probably about half a
Speaker 4: mile into the forest. I want to go retrieve it.
Speaker 4: Anyone want to come. I jump up, I'm like, yeah, sure.
Speaker 4: I took my VI near camera and we're walking, just
Speaker 4: him and I. We had driven deep into the forest
Speaker 4: like it took about I would say, forty five minutes
Speaker 4: to drive the trucks into this area where the trees
Speaker 4: were much bigger. They called it old growth trees where
Speaker 4: if you know where I live in Vancouver and British Columbia,
Speaker 4: to me, old growth, I've seen trees that are like
Speaker 4: twenty feet in diameter and two hundred feet tall. So
Speaker 4: to me, that's old growth. I'm looking at these trees
Speaker 4: that they call old growth. Sure they're a little bit bigger.
Speaker 4: So here we are, it's nighttime. It's probably about midnight
Speaker 4: we're walking into the forest. We start filming all these
Speaker 4: trees breaks, the branches as thick as my finger, and
Speaker 4: they're breaking and twisted and broken. So I'm filming all
Speaker 4: of them. Must have been like twenty of them all
Speaker 4: the way. And then we come to an area where
Speaker 4: all the trees and the grass that we were walking
Speaker 4: in were probably about two feet tall at some point.
Speaker 4: So you know that this area that we were walking
Speaker 4: and no one had been there for a long time.
Speaker 4: There was one point a section of the trees were
Speaker 4: all pushed over. The roots were not showing, but they
Speaker 4: were all looked like they were all bend over. There
Speaker 4: was probably about i want to say, six of them
Speaker 4: in a row, a thick, pretty thick. It's almost as
Speaker 4: if something pushed over the trees to stop anyone from
Speaker 4: going over, because there was all the trees were straight
Speaker 4: all the way around us except for this one area,
Speaker 4: and we had to crawl through get through to the
Speaker 4: other side. And as we're walking, it probably took about
Speaker 4: forty minutes to walk to where we're going. We got
Speaker 4: the recorder and we started walking back. As we're walking back,
Speaker 4: i'd see a tree break that is right over the trail.
Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, I don't remember that because I'm filming
Speaker 4: all the tree breaks, but this one I don't remember
Speaker 4: because we literally had to walk around.
Speaker 3: It was right in the middle.
Speaker 4: It was so wet that you can almost see dripping
Speaker 4: of the sap. It was so wet it had just
Speaker 4: been broken. Then all of a sudden, we hear a
Speaker 4: crack behind us, and we turn around. Probably one hundred
Speaker 4: feet away. We could see eyeshine looking at us. I'm
Speaker 4: trying to film it my camera. For some reason, the
Speaker 4: infrared light on my camera only can go about twenty
Speaker 4: five feet. Whatever we're standing there stood just outside of
Speaker 4: the infrared light, but we could see the eye shine.
Speaker 4: Then all of a sudden, another one came walking out,
Speaker 4: turned and looked. We're looking at this, and at the
Speaker 4: same time, we could hear cracking, because the guy I
Speaker 4: was with was like, gee, hear that. We could hear
Speaker 4: cracking other things walking beside us.
Speaker 3: I'm looking.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to film this. I'm shaking. I'm all I'm
Speaker 4: saying is don't run, anyone run because where we're going
Speaker 4: to go. If these creatures are going to kill us,
Speaker 4: They're just going to walk up and crack our head break,
Speaker 4: twist our head off right so there's no point running.
Speaker 4: Then the other one it closed its eyes, then it disappeared.
Speaker 4: Then we rushed to the area where they were standing.
Speaker 4: Out of the entire area beside us, all the trees
Speaker 4: were very close together except at the spot where they
Speaker 4: were standing. And we turned and looked. You could see
Speaker 4: there was an opening big enough for whatever to go through.
Speaker 4: We started walking back to the treet break. There was
Speaker 4: two of them. That's the way two tweet breaks side
Speaker 4: by side. We're looking at it. Then I did this
Speaker 4: maneuver where we were looking back into the direction where
Speaker 4: we saw the eye shine, and I did this maneuver
Speaker 4: where I took a step forward and then turned around
Speaker 4: really fast, like almost a dance move. There standing in
Speaker 4: front of me with this dark shadow by a tree,
Speaker 4: and it dropped to the ground. I think there was
Speaker 4: a second one that went behind the tree. Then it
Speaker 4: did what looked like a giant spider crawl, like a
Speaker 4: giant spiders that went across I'm looking at this. I
Speaker 4: had the video camera on, but I was talking. It
Speaker 4: was facing me. I'm talking about what I was seeing
Speaker 4: behind us with the light. So I turned around when
Speaker 4: I saw this because the light off the screen, my
Speaker 4: eyes were still trying to adjust. But what I saw
Speaker 4: was these two white eyes staring at me as I
Speaker 4: crawled across the trail. When I say crawled, it took
Speaker 4: like three steps and it was gone into the forest.
Speaker 4: But the eyes just stared at me the whole time.
Speaker 4: And I'm looking at thinking is that a cougar? Because
Speaker 4: I know we had seen Kuga tracks and other tracks around.
Speaker 3: It was gone. I home.
Speaker 4: It's felt backwards because it shook me and I yelled.
Speaker 4: The researcher that was with turned around. I told him
Speaker 4: what I saw. It was about twenty feet away from me,
Speaker 4: twenty five feet, so I went to show him. So
Speaker 4: I'm thinking maybe I was imaginary this leg. When you're
Speaker 4: so scared, your imagination can take control. It can make
Speaker 4: you see stuff that you want to see. That's what
Speaker 4: I'm thinking until I got home three months later. I'm
Speaker 4: now editing the footage with the lights off. I'm looking
Speaker 4: and as I'm talking on camera about what I saw,
Speaker 4: this big, huge thing crawl across. Well, actually there was
Speaker 4: one eye watching behind me that I caught on camera,
Speaker 4: so it wasn't my imagination. And there literally was something there.
Speaker 4: When you see my documentaries like three and four, you
Speaker 4: could actually see the eyeshine, and they were around us.
Speaker 4: You could see some of the eye shine as we're walking.
Speaker 4: For some reason, I think that these creatures, if they're real,
Speaker 4: I think when I'm looking when I'm talking on camera,
Speaker 4: they think I'm not looking at them because my back
Speaker 4: is to them. They don't realize that I could catch
Speaker 4: the eye shine on the infrared light, because throughout all
Speaker 4: of my documentaries up filmed, I'd caught many eye shines
Speaker 4: looking at me if I'm behind as I'm talking on camera.
Speaker 4: I didn't see it in real time though. When I
Speaker 4: was in my hammock and all that thing happened, we
Speaker 4: had a recorder going at the same time. On that
Speaker 4: recorder we caught talking it was like Yaco, so it
Speaker 4: sounded like we had that on audio as it was talking. Then,
Speaker 4: many years later I showed it to some Red Lake
Speaker 4: then members who speak what they think is the language
Speaker 4: the chief, and she told me that the language what
Speaker 4: it was saying was I don't want you here, You're
Speaker 4: annoying me. Get out. That's what she said. That was
Speaker 4: when I was filming search of for Lasquatch three. I
Speaker 4: was so scared that night after I saw that big
Speaker 4: giant thing crawl across the ground, I slept in the truck.
Speaker 4: I have no problem telling people I slept in the
Speaker 4: truck after the experience. Something had come up in the
Speaker 4: night and just walk hit the side of the truck
Speaker 4: and shook it because one of the researchers was in
Speaker 4: the back of the truck sleeping and it just shook
Speaker 4: and scared him so bad. What else happened on that expedition,
Speaker 4: We actually captured howls on the audio. At one point
Speaker 4: I was in David So I had returned back and
Speaker 4: I was sitting around the fire with everyone. Dominique he
Speaker 4: had a flur and he's looking through and I had
Speaker 4: a walkie on me and he's only twenty five thirty
Speaker 4: feet behind me where we were perked trucks. I was
Speaker 4: twenty five feet in the forest around the camp and
Speaker 4: we were all sitting around talking and I was explaining
Speaker 4: what happened, and he goesson, come here, there is something
Speaker 4: watching you guys behind this tree.
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay.
Speaker 4: By at that time, I was still not sure, Like
Speaker 4: I said, I can't tell you right now that what
Speaker 4: happened to me back there with whatever crawled on the
Speaker 4: ground and the eye shine were bigfoot, because all I
Speaker 4: was seeing was the eye shine.
Speaker 3: But I got up from the.
Speaker 4: Fire and I walked through the forest back to where
Speaker 4: David and there was another couple of researchers. He's looking
Speaker 4: through the flur, and so I took the flur and
Speaker 4: I looked, and sure enough, behind a tree, you could
Speaker 4: see the backside of something. It was facing the camp.
Speaker 4: It was probably about twenty feet in the forest, probably
Speaker 4: about twenty twenty five feet from us in the forest.
Speaker 4: You see the backside of it. It was actually white,
Speaker 4: red hot like it was just it stuck out from
Speaker 4: the tree. It was looking at everyone at the camp.
Speaker 1: And stay tuned for more sasquat chattasy. We'll be right
Speaker 1: back after these messages.
Speaker 4: So I said, okay, David, I'm going to walk back
Speaker 4: down the little trail.
Speaker 3: I want to be on the side of it.
Speaker 4: I'm going to walk into the forest and I'm going
Speaker 4: to push it out so you can see exactly what
Speaker 4: it is. I know it wasn't any other researchers because
Speaker 4: all the researchers are about the fire. The other two
Speaker 4: were beside me looking into the forest. So I walked
Speaker 4: in and I turned my flashlight off and I had
Speaker 4: that my infra red cap.
Speaker 3: I'm not going and I'm.
Speaker 4: Walking into the darkness and it is pitch black. I'm
Speaker 4: trying not to shake because I'm still thinking in my
Speaker 4: head about what just happened with the big giant thing
Speaker 4: that looked like a giant spider that crawled across. As
Speaker 4: I'm walking, I can hear it walking taking steps in
Speaker 4: the forest. I'm like, David, what's going on?
Speaker 3: Where is it?
Speaker 4: What's it doing? You will not believe whatever that was
Speaker 4: in the forest. You won't believe what it did.
Speaker 3: You will not believe.
Speaker 4: It blows my mind to this day what it did.
Speaker 4: I was trying to push it out. It walked away.
Speaker 4: But what it did here's the tree. I was trying
Speaker 4: to make it move out. The dang thing moved away
Speaker 4: from us, keeping the bloody tree between David and the
Speaker 4: creeture like the tree walked straight. I didn't push it out.
Speaker 4: It is as if it that. I couldn't see it,
Speaker 4: not even with the video camera, because the bushes were
Speaker 4: so dense. I could not believe it. I kind of
Speaker 4: walked back out and I said, oh, did you see it?
Speaker 4: He said, no, it walked away, but it walked directly,
Speaker 4: keeping the tree from me. Seeing exactly what it was.
Speaker 4: It just blows my mind it did that. So that
Speaker 4: was the start of moving up the percentage of my
Speaker 4: belief in Bigfoot. From there, I went to Michigan again.
Speaker 4: This time I was about a year later. I went
Speaker 4: to a farm and I was with Chad Datema and
Speaker 4: a bunch of other researchers. I was with Robin Haines
Speaker 4: Wickraye also. We went into this area. There was about
Speaker 4: six of us. As soon as we walked past the farm,
Speaker 4: it was a big cornfield, corn and wheatfield. Corn on
Speaker 4: this side, wheat on this side. And we walked through
Speaker 4: there was this area of forest that it looked like
Speaker 4: something out of an enchanted forest, but it looked evil
Speaker 4: because all the trees were dead and rickety and very dark.
Speaker 4: Just as soon as we walked into the tree line,
Speaker 4: something crashed through the forest beside me, scared the heck
Speaker 4: on me and I started running through the forest chasing
Speaker 4: whatever it was. We started seeing eyes shine one hundred
Speaker 4: feet away looking at us from behind trees and I'm
Speaker 4: catching these.
Speaker 3: All on film.
Speaker 4: We're actually catching all the sound of whatever it is
Speaker 4: running and crashing, and can hear them breaking the trees
Speaker 4: as they go. We're all seeing this. At one point
Speaker 4: we go pretty deep into the forest. I said, okay, everyone,
Speaker 4: let's sit down. We're going to be very quiet. We're
Speaker 4: going to turn off all the lights. We're just going
Speaker 4: to sit and listen. My ADHD basically took control after
Speaker 4: about ten minutes. So I got up and I walked
Speaker 4: away from everyone. I have my camera, I didn't have
Speaker 4: a recording.
Speaker 3: I had it on.
Speaker 4: As I'm walking, I saw some eye shine and Robin
Speaker 4: Hayes McCrae was like, do you see that. I think
Speaker 4: I see eyeshine. I said yeah, I stopped for a second,
Speaker 4: so I walked away from her and I walked around
Speaker 4: some bushes and boom, there in front of me this
Speaker 4: big shadow, I want to say, seven feet tall. I
Speaker 4: didn't have time to run up and put a measuring
Speaker 4: tape to see exactly how tall it was, but I
Speaker 4: looked at it at pushed record my video camera. I
Speaker 4: shoot with professional four K video. There's a delay like
Speaker 4: a half a second delay, and then half a second
Speaker 4: it dropped to the ground. They went behind the bushes,
Speaker 4: and I'm standing there trying not to shake.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 4: It is staring at me and it's going like this
Speaker 4: behind trees. I'm about twenty five feet away from it,
Speaker 4: and my camera's rolling, but I didn't have it on zoom.
Speaker 4: I had it on almost like a wide angle. When
Speaker 4: people look at it, they'll see when you look further away.
Speaker 4: I'm like, that's because I didn't want to look down.
Speaker 4: I just kept kind of rolling, and on camera you
Speaker 4: can see it, the movement of it, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: you have to understand something now. If anyone knows Robin
Speaker 4: Hayes wm Cray, she communicates with these creatures by mind speaking,
Speaker 4: so for I would say an hour before any of
Speaker 4: this happened, Robin is communicating with these big foot creatures. Allegedly,
Speaker 4: she's saying that she's telling me the names of these creatures,
Speaker 4: and one of the names was a young one that
Speaker 4: it's scared, and the adults are telling Robin to tell
Speaker 4: me to stop chasing these creatures because I'm getting too
Speaker 4: close and they're getting angry, they're feeling threatened. I'm still skeptical,
Speaker 4: so I'm trying to get close enough so I can
Speaker 4: get video now here I am standing in front of
Speaker 4: I don't know exactly what it is, but it's definitely
Speaker 4: doing some kind of primate body language because it's doing
Speaker 4: this thing behind the tree, and all I'm thinking in
Speaker 4: my head is, oh my god, I'm waiting for an
Speaker 4: adult bigfoot to come walking up behind me and just
Speaker 4: go whooh and just hit me on the head because
Speaker 4: I'm trying not to put my pants. And you can
Speaker 4: see the footage and you can crop in a little
Speaker 4: bit before my shaking gets the camera.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 4: Some of the comments are, man, I wish the camera
Speaker 4: person who would just stop moving the camera.
Speaker 3: I'm like, but.
Speaker 4: Because I've cropped in, and when you crop in, the
Speaker 4: shaking in my hand gets more intense. People who criticize
Speaker 4: it they don't understand if they haven't been facing. But
Speaker 4: I'm also thinking, mind, if this is a bear, I'm dead.
Speaker 4: If this is the cougar. So the thing is, this
Speaker 4: is what is interesting. People say, maybe it's a bear. Oh,
Speaker 4: maybe it's a deer. Yeah, but I saw a deer
Speaker 4: earlier that day. As you get a thousand feet from
Speaker 4: the deer, they went off. Animals don't usually stay around.
Speaker 4: Someone said, maybe it's an owl. I'm like an owl.
Speaker 4: So you have to understand something about birds. Birds only
Speaker 4: touch the ground when they're feeding. That's the only time.
Speaker 4: There's only two birds that really stay on the ground
Speaker 4: a lot ducks, chickens, and geese. Other than that, while birds,
Speaker 4: owls only touch the ground when they're feeding. The reason
Speaker 4: for that is everything that eats birds are on the ground, really,
Speaker 4: so a lot of times birds will not just hang
Speaker 4: out on the ground. They're like, hey, you know what,
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna sit here and do some dancing and
Speaker 4: wait till something comes and eats me. No, it doesn't
Speaker 4: happen like that. So for someone to say it was
Speaker 4: an owl, if it's an owl, then it land on
Speaker 4: the ground. Why what it thinks I'm a threat, so
Speaker 4: it's going to land on the ground and get closer
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: Definitely, no owl, for sure. I don't know how many
Speaker 4: people have seen owls at night, but their eyes are
Speaker 4: quite big. So that was my experience there. The great
Speaker 4: thing about me filming my documentaries going out on these
Speaker 4: expeditions is I always have a camera with me. I
Speaker 4: get the capture a lot of the audio and a
Speaker 4: lot of howls. I went to Texas. I filmed with
Speaker 4: Todd Parsons. They have their bigfoot research group there. We
Speaker 4: went into this area basically on the border of Louisiana,
Speaker 4: the Louisiana River. I went to interview a guy who
Speaker 4: allegedly shot a bigfoot and killed it. He didn't as
Speaker 4: HEAs know we killed it, but he shot it and
Speaker 4: it fell to the ground. Of course he didn't take pictures.
Speaker 4: Of course he ran off as soon as he shot it.
Speaker 4: It was like twenty feet away from him. When he
Speaker 4: came back the next day, there was tire tracks, there
Speaker 4: was blood. So I went and interviewed him. I was
Speaker 4: pretty crazy interview The entire forest came alive with screams, howls, roars.
Speaker 4: It was scary as heck. That were just howling around
Speaker 4: us screaming. I had my camera and rolled Oh, like
Speaker 4: my god, this is nuts. You can clearly tell the
Speaker 4: coyote sounds from the unidentified sounds. That's why I was
Speaker 4: so happy to hear the coyote howls next to these
Speaker 4: other howls that sounded so different than the coyote holes,
Speaker 4: but they were all around us. I was with four
Speaker 4: or five researchers and we were all hearing them. We
Speaker 4: tapped it all on film. That was amazing. Then at
Speaker 4: one time we went to a graveyard who we took
Speaker 4: ATVs to this graveyard in the forest. When we got there,
Speaker 4: we're looking around the graveyard. We're there for probably about
Speaker 4: twenty five minutes. We're doing the howling, we're doing the
Speaker 4: wood knocking, we're looking around. At one point there's a fence.
Speaker 4: It was like a farmer's gate that would block people
Speaker 4: out from driving down his gravel driveway. There was a
Speaker 4: signs I no trespassing. I'm like, okay, I'm just going
Speaker 4: went round it. As I walked about four feet, I
Speaker 4: hear crunching in the forest. I turn around, you guys,
Speaker 4: there's something moving in the forest. So everyone comes around
Speaker 4: the gate. They're all started filming. We had flours or
Speaker 4: looking into the forest. I go walking to the forest
Speaker 4: because I wanted to get close, because I wanted to
Speaker 4: capture the audio on my video camera. Sure enough I did.
Speaker 4: You could hear it walking. One of the guys caught
Speaker 4: the creature kneeling down on flour. All of a sudden,
Speaker 4: it stood up and he caught this on flour. Like
Speaker 4: I said, I'm not saying it was a bigfoot creature,
Speaker 4: but I went and took some flour for to me.
Speaker 4: Standing next to the tree. You can clearly see I
Speaker 4: had clothes on. Right, you can see my outfit. You
Speaker 4: can see what I was wearing. And whatever it was
Speaker 4: in the forest, either it was a big, hairy creature
Speaker 4: or it was a perverted farmer that was naked touching
Speaker 4: himself watching this from the darkness. Who knows, but I'm
Speaker 4: saying whatever was standing there had no clothes on. You
Speaker 4: could clearly see that in the footage. I put that
Speaker 4: in the documentary too, and the roars, the roarers are
Speaker 4: just incredible that we captured Ohio Grassman. I did documentary
Speaker 4: called Enter Ohio Grassman. It's like a pond on Enter
Speaker 4: Sandman with the audio comes in. It has a bit
Speaker 4: of the sounding of the Sandman. So we're in there
Speaker 4: and we're looking around in the forest there and Chad
Speaker 4: Datemar was with him again. We're driving down this one area.
Speaker 4: Clearly the road was washed away from rains. It washed
Speaker 4: it away, it was shut down, so no one was
Speaker 4: around there. As we're driving down, Chad saw some eyeshine
Speaker 4: standing there looking at us. I put the brakes on
Speaker 4: and I backed up and it was gone. So we
Speaker 4: jumped out of the truck and we ran into the area.
Speaker 4: We ran towards a nine foot thousand pound creature that
Speaker 4: the rip your apart into the darkness. So we're running around. Boom,
Speaker 4: there was tree structures all around us. It's crazy. You
Speaker 4: could see that these tree structures are just like they
Speaker 4: stand out. I don't know how many tree structures that
Speaker 4: you come across while you're doing your expeditions, but you'd
Speaker 4: be looking around and sully, boom, it stands out. So
Speaker 4: I'm filming, and obviously I'm trying to rationalize to be
Speaker 4: made by these creatures. Did they fall out of the tree.
Speaker 4: These things are basically clear. You could see there obviously
Speaker 4: the area that we were in. Of course humans can
Speaker 4: go there, so it could be human made. But we
Speaker 4: found one that was pretty much just done. You could
Speaker 4: see how wet and how fresh it looked. And then
Speaker 4: I did the same thing. I said, okay, Chad, that
Speaker 4: just stop. We'll turn off the lights. We turned off
Speaker 4: the flashlights. We're sitting in the darkness. All of a sudden,
Speaker 4: I turned it. I looked and and my video camera
Speaker 4: is still rolling and I look. I'm like, I think
Speaker 4: I said eye Shine, and it just blinked. It just
Speaker 4: closed his eyes. Like like I said, maybe it's just
Speaker 4: my imagination playing tricks. So I'm looking at maybe it's
Speaker 4: nothing that shadow. I'm like, that is a pretty big
Speaker 4: tree that's standing between these two trees. I didn't have
Speaker 4: a flashlight because my battery was dead. And who goes
Speaker 4: into the forest without extra batteries? Come on, what kind
Speaker 4: of expedition guy? I am sure enough. Two months later,
Speaker 4: I'm at home, I'm editing, and as I'm looking to
Speaker 4: the footage, my camera pants and sure enough, you see
Speaker 4: the eye Shine looking at us from the darkness clearly,
Speaker 4: and you could actually see the two of them, and
Speaker 4: it was easily nine feet off the ground. So that
Speaker 4: was exciting because well, I'm looking, I'm editing, I'm looking
Speaker 4: doing okay. So it wasn't clearly my imagination. I saw something.
Speaker 4: Was it a big foot?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I've been researching these Sasquart's creatures for about five years.
Speaker 4: When I first started doing my research, I was a
Speaker 4: twenty percent believer, eight percent not believing. Now, after five years,
Speaker 4: some of the crazy stuff that I've seen in the forest.
Speaker 4: I'm now fifty to fifty, like a fifty percent believer.
Speaker 4: The reason why I'm not one hundred percent is because
Speaker 4: I haven't had a daytide sighting. Everything I've seen, it's
Speaker 4: either a shadow, the eyeshine, screams, howls. We found a footprint.
Speaker 4: This was in the Colorado Rockies. So it's about thirteen
Speaker 4: inches long, which doesn't really mean much because I don't
Speaker 4: know about you, but I know quite a few friends
Speaker 4: and people that have thirteen inch feet.
Speaker 3: But it's five.
Speaker 4: Inches across, which you know that not very people have
Speaker 4: five inches, you know, wide you can clearly see the
Speaker 4: big toe. One of the researchers said that the big
Speaker 4: toe he moved. He moved, And it was like, I
Speaker 4: don't understand why we only find one footprint, like we're
Speaker 4: looking around. Is it a thing just hopping Maybe it
Speaker 4: has one leg, like hundreds of one legg at sasquatches
Speaker 4: hopping around in the forest.
Speaker 1: I've gotten that in the past because I have found
Speaker 1: footprints here on our land in North Carolina. One of
Speaker 1: the first ones that I cast, it was only one footprint.
Speaker 1: But I've went back into the forest here and done
Speaker 1: follow up videos because you get those people of the naysayers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I can't explain what I found here. That's one
Speaker 1: of the things I did was go back out and say,
Speaker 1: how can there only be one footprint? If you spend
Speaker 1: a lot of time in the woods, especially here in
Speaker 1: the substrate in North Carolina it's very similar to Texas
Speaker 1: and other places that you've discussed. You can go out.
Speaker 1: We've just had three days of rain, right. I went
Speaker 1: out today, walked the dogs a couple of times before
Speaker 1: we did this. There's places where the dogs step and
Speaker 1: there's dog prints here, and there's no prints here because
Speaker 1: just five inches away it can be dry enough because
Speaker 1: of wind elevation, there's just enough of an angle to
Speaker 1: drain the water off. And I went out and demonstrated
Speaker 1: that because it is one of those things where I
Speaker 1: scratched my head and say, why is there just one print?
Speaker 1: And I think more oftentimes than not, that to me
Speaker 1: is the ocom's rais or answer is that depending on
Speaker 1: the substrate and where the print that you found is at.
Speaker 1: In a low spot, there was some moisture there and
Speaker 1: it made an intention, and the other one was high
Speaker 1: enough on the substrate that it did make an indention.
Speaker 1: I think there's some kind of an explanation for that.
Speaker 1: But I do want to go back to the footprints
Speaker 1: that you discussed. I did see, if I recall, I
Speaker 1: looked a little bit of the documentary you're talking about
Speaker 1: this morning. I did see the drone footage over this lake.
Speaker 1: Can you talk a little bit about size and what
Speaker 1: these prints are they similar to what you just showed
Speaker 1: here that you found in this other area as much
Speaker 1: as you can in detail describe those prints that you saw.
Speaker 4: They were in the mud when I did film them
Speaker 4: from the land, and some people say maybe it's a
Speaker 4: moose because I am in Moose country. Have you ever
Speaker 4: ever seen moose walk through mud or walk through water
Speaker 4: that on tiptoe they're ripping everything up. You can clearly
Speaker 4: see that something took a step, took another step. Still
Speaker 4: not saying it was made by bigfoot because I didn't
Speaker 4: physically see what did them, but clearly there was a
Speaker 4: bunch of them. Talking to the First Nations people and
Speaker 4: talking to some of the locals, they were definitely thinking
Speaker 4: that they were made by these big foot people. But
Speaker 4: when you see them up close, they are it's pretty amazing.
Speaker 4: I didn't see any.
Speaker 3: On land though, but it was dry.
Speaker 4: It was like a nice summer's day and there was
Speaker 4: no soft mud around. But drone footed was great. I
Speaker 4: brought the drone right down so people could see clearly
Speaker 4: that there was something. So I couldn't tell you exactly.
Speaker 4: I just can't tell you what I saw and what
Speaker 4: I heard from the eyewitnesses and the First Nations people
Speaker 4: that said that they've been surrounded by these creatures yelling
Speaker 4: at them. They believed that they're protectors of their land.
Speaker 1: You sent me a couple of audio clips that I
Speaker 1: want to play for the audience to hear here. Let
Speaker 1: me just play the clips first, and then we can
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about what we're hearing here. Let
Speaker 1: me play the first clip for everybody.
Speaker 3: So you can really hear that at the end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very interesting that you say that, because the
Speaker 1: vocalization that I heard here on Ireland a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago sounded similar at the end. I've described it
Speaker 1: as a bark, but it was more like a r
Speaker 1: at the end.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's what I heard when I was in
Speaker 4: the Hammock tent. That same thing was like it was
Speaker 4: mad that I was there. That's what it sounds like.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's strange, man, because I've never really heard
Speaker 1: anything that's close to what I heard, because I usually
Speaker 1: describe it as the Ohio Howell or similar to the
Speaker 1: Ohio Howe with a bark on the end. Of course,
Speaker 1: the second I say that to anybody a who's skeptical,
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with doctor Hogan Cherau recently on
Speaker 1: another podcast. Hogan was saying, if you heard something then
Speaker 1: that had a bark on the end, it's probably a caneid.
Speaker 1: It's a dog, it's a coyote, it's a wolf, it's
Speaker 1: something that's of the canine family. It's hard to explain
Speaker 1: whether it was a bark or more like a gruff
Speaker 1: growl kind of sound at the end, but that's very close.
Speaker 1: Let me play this other clip and let everybody hear.
Speaker 2: This, and stay tuned for more sasquatch otasy. We'll be
Speaker 2: right back after These.
Speaker 1: Messages give us the context of what's going on. How
Speaker 1: far away are these sounds?
Speaker 4: So these were captured Jen Cruz from the Sheet Squatters.
Speaker 4: She was given this audio by this guy who I
Speaker 4: think he was related to this old man. It was
Speaker 4: on First Nations in Minnesota, on the Red Lake. He
Speaker 4: was in his backyard. His backyard had thousands upon thousands
Speaker 4: of pectors of forest. He recorded those sounds and scared
Speaker 4: him so bad that he never left his place, never
Speaker 4: went back into the forest.
Speaker 3: Who was so scared?
Speaker 4: Jen Cruz from the Sheetquatchers, who was able to get
Speaker 4: this audio. Then the sheet Squatches and I we went
Speaker 4: into the area where the sounds were captured. We spent
Speaker 4: like a week out there. It was amazing.
Speaker 3: We caught some audio, some howls.
Speaker 4: We found some of the most unbelievable tree structures.
Speaker 3: Like I found one.
Speaker 4: There's a photograph that I think I sent an email
Speaker 4: to you that showed a tree structure. I called it
Speaker 4: the spider web tree structure. The light that we were
Speaker 4: using was red. It looked like a giant spider web
Speaker 4: the way that the trees were placed on it. The
Speaker 4: owner of the property, he had no idea it was there.
Speaker 4: So when we came back from going off into the forest,
Speaker 4: it was I think Tammy from the Sheet Squatters, her
Speaker 4: and I we went into the forest into the area
Speaker 4: to go looking for what was making this weird. It
Speaker 4: almost sound sounded like an owl, but it was off
Speaker 4: a little bit like it's sound like an owl, but not,
Speaker 4: if that makes sense. We went down looking into the area.
Speaker 4: We found this tree structure that was really tall. It
Speaker 4: was made up up a whole bunch of the trees. Ironically,
Speaker 4: directly across from that was an actual spiderweb.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Robin. I've had Robin on the show. Her stories,
Speaker 1: her experiences are definitely out there. They would be in
Speaker 1: the high strangeness category. Let's talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: your approach to that, because that's something that's been on
Speaker 1: my radar, honestly, more recently than ever before, it seems,
Speaker 1: is this high strangeness part of sasquatch, this unexplainable things
Speaker 1: that people tend to experience. Wayne and I just did
Speaker 1: an entire episode over on that Bigfoot podcast, one of
Speaker 1: my other shows, and we addressed the doctor Matthew Johnson
Speaker 1: claims of portals and some of the other things that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this guy's literally saying that Bigfoot is picking the president
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four and he's a part of some
Speaker 1: ousel and these out there claims. I know how I
Speaker 1: deal with that as a researcher. I think there's a
Speaker 1: place for that. Like Robin for example, I treated her
Speaker 1: very respectfully on the show, and her experiences are her own.
Speaker 1: I don't ever talk badly or treat people poorly because
Speaker 1: of what they say the experience. But I said all
Speaker 1: that to say I think there is a place for that,
Speaker 1: and I address that in my new books. I squatch
Speaker 1: on leash the truth behind the legend at some point
Speaker 1: as researchers. In my mind, if you're out to prove
Speaker 1: this and not everybody's in this for that, I want
Speaker 1: to prove the species is real. I want to prove
Speaker 1: it for myself and anybody else who's interested. So I
Speaker 1: try to approach this very scientifically. I try to look
Speaker 1: at it from a critical thinking point of view. When
Speaker 1: you're doing that, it's difficult to do when you have
Speaker 1: these high strangeness stories that are interwoven into the research.
Speaker 1: How do you handle that as a researcher and you
Speaker 1: come in contact with people who have these high strangeness
Speaker 1: sort of situations. Do you take that data in as
Speaker 1: the same as you would just a regular run of
Speaker 1: the mill, roadside crossing, and how do you put that
Speaker 1: all together when you're doing your research and where do
Speaker 1: you come out on the other end, Are you leaning
Speaker 1: if these things are real, that they're more flesh and
Speaker 1: blood or do you think there could be some high
Speaker 1: strangeness portion to these creatures?
Speaker 4: Okay, So first off, that researcher saying that Sasquatch is
Speaker 4: going to pick the next president, he couldn't be so wrong,
Speaker 4: because I'm sure that Sasquatch is going to be the
Speaker 4: president of the United States.
Speaker 1: I actually had the bumper sticker. If you guys want
Speaker 1: a bumper sticker, you can get one of those from me.
Speaker 2: And I'm just kidding.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, yeah, exactly, Sasquatch is the next president. I'm going
Speaker 4: to tell you something that was strange. So I was
Speaker 4: given a treat camp I use them here and there
Speaker 4: every once in a while. I was given this one,
Speaker 4: and I decided I was using it for the whole
Speaker 4: four or five days. I had it recording not where we.
Speaker 3: Were camping, like, not where the.
Speaker 4: Campfire was, but just off because I didn't want it
Speaker 4: going off every second as we're walking around, just in
Speaker 4: case someone went by the trucks. For the next few days,
Speaker 4: I was doing that. Then I went and took it
Speaker 4: off the tree. I went into the forest with a
Speaker 4: giant lollipop. It was a massive lollipop with the stick.
Speaker 4: I went into the forest to this tree that had
Speaker 4: this big knot in it, that had a hole in it.
Speaker 4: I stuck this lollipop sticking out of the hole. I said, okay,
Speaker 4: this lollipop is for you. It's a gift. If you
Speaker 4: don't like it, please don't eat it. Because it looks delicious,
Speaker 4: Please don't eat it. I went and stuck the tree
Speaker 4: cam facing it. I went did my thing, and the
Speaker 4: next evening I came back. I was failing at all
Speaker 4: and I walked up and it's gone. It's off the tree.
Speaker 4: I didn't fall off the tree because I made sure
Speaker 4: when I put it in there that it wasn't dwobbly.
Speaker 4: I touched it make sure it wouldn't fall. It was
Speaker 4: wrapped up, you had a wrapper on it. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: it's gone. To the researching beside me was like, oh, Jay,
Speaker 4: it's by your feet. I turned around and sure enough,
Speaker 4: it was by my feen. I picked it up. It'd
Speaker 4: had a nibble taken out of it, so it's okay.
Speaker 4: There was a squirrel or a chipmunk or something just
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, you no, like, can't fine? Too bad
Speaker 4: for you.
Speaker 3: I'm going to eat it. I walked away.
Speaker 4: And I ate it, and then I took down the tree
Speaker 4: cam and I put it into my bag and I
Speaker 4: didn't look at it again. I get home a month later,
Speaker 4: I download the footage. All the footage was working, except
Speaker 4: for the one time that I was excited to look
Speaker 4: at the spot to see so the wrapper had a
Speaker 4: little bite taken out of it, like as if it
Speaker 4: took a nibble. Didn't like it through it on the ground.
Speaker 4: All the footage before and all the footage after it worked,
Speaker 4: except that the.
Speaker 3: One was corrupted.
Speaker 4: It blew my mind because as I'm going through okay,
Speaker 4: there's us walking okay, oh there's me walking through the
Speaker 4: tree camp okay, setting it up with the thing, and
Speaker 4: I clicked the next one down and it's corrupted. I'm like,
Speaker 4: what the heck? I have four different powerful video editing programs,
Speaker 4: so I'm taking each one and putting it into these
Speaker 4: sophisticated programs that play everything, and it would not work
Speaker 4: on any of it. It was another time that blew
Speaker 4: my mind. What is the odds of that? The one
Speaker 4: footage that I wanted to see the squirrel or the
Speaker 4: chipmunk eat it, because in my mind, I just think
Speaker 4: it was a chipmunk. It's like we're in nature, there's
Speaker 4: other animals. So my thoughts on the weirdness of people
Speaker 4: talking about portals and stuff all it makes me wonder
Speaker 4: about how these creatures can hide behind such small trees. Now,
Speaker 4: where I live, like I said, the trees are much bigger.
Speaker 4: They can hide anything. But you go to Texas, you
Speaker 4: go to Minnesota, yes you do have trees like this big.
Speaker 4: But when you go to Texas, over the years they
Speaker 4: choked down all the trees and planted new ones. The
Speaker 4: new trees are so skinny and small. So it makes
Speaker 4: me wonder how these creatures can hide behind such small trees.
Speaker 4: Some people think that Bigfoot is an alien that comes
Speaker 4: off these UFOs. I did interview a cop, a law
Speaker 4: enforcement officer that was retired. She didn't want to go
Speaker 4: on camera at all. It took me like six months
Speaker 4: to convince her, please, I will black you out, I
Speaker 4: will change your voice, nobody will know who you are.
Speaker 4: In fact, she left the forest after she saw a
Speaker 4: UFO and all of a sudden, the ufolk took off.
Speaker 4: The UFO was probably a thousand feet from her. It
Speaker 4: was just hovering over trees, and it shot off big light,
Speaker 4: and then these two giant bigfoot creatures come walking out
Speaker 4: of the forest towards her. She turned around her truck
Speaker 4: and just took off. Scared her so bad. She didn't
Speaker 4: talk about it for a long time, and eventually I
Speaker 4: convinced her. I blocked her out. I changed her voice, like,
Speaker 4: I really alter her voice. To this day, people say,
Speaker 4: can you tell.
Speaker 3: Us who she is?
Speaker 4: We'd like to interview her, and I'm like, I'm telling
Speaker 4: you right now. A, she will not talk to you.
Speaker 3: And b.
Speaker 4: It took me forever, and I promised that I would
Speaker 4: never because she was afraid because of being called a
Speaker 4: complete nutjob because of her force. She's still friends with
Speaker 4: all these people, So I don't know. It's a hard
Speaker 4: one when it comes to it. I'm definitely not ruling
Speaker 4: it out though, because we don't have too much footage,
Speaker 4: and there's over a million tree cams throughout North America
Speaker 4: all over none of them capture it. I'm having trouble
Speaker 4: getting it on my camera. I shoot with some professional stuff.
Speaker 1: I've talked to people in the past that have claimed
Speaker 1: to see some trail cam footage that will never see
Speaker 1: the lad of day because people are afraid of very
Speaker 1: much like the former police officer you were just talking about,
Speaker 1: the ridicule. They'll show it to certain people and say
Speaker 1: this is as far as it's ever going to go.
Speaker 1: They're not going to release it. It's not going to
Speaker 1: be on Facebook or YouTube or even on a podcast
Speaker 1: like this. I think there's some footage out there, but
Speaker 1: I agree with you, it's definitely a hedge scratcher. We've
Speaker 1: talked about it a couple of times. We've mentioned the documentaries.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the films. Where they're at, where people
Speaker 1: can see them, Where can they go and check them out.
Speaker 4: So there's about thirteen documentaries. They're called Search and For Sasquatch.
Speaker 4: I love making them, I love producing. I really love
Speaker 4: all the new friendships I've made throughout the years. As
Speaker 4: I'm filming. In these documentaries, I interview eyewitnesses who claim
Speaker 4: to see these creatures. I love adventures, so I film
Speaker 4: more adventure than I do talking heads. But I do
Speaker 4: know that the talking heads move the story they send
Speaker 4: me into the direction of where to go on these adventures.
Speaker 4: I've met some amazing people. I've talked about the she Squatchers.
Speaker 4: They're one of the most amazing people that I've met
Speaker 4: and work with and gone into the four They take
Speaker 4: it bay seriously, but at the same time, we have.
Speaker 3: A lot of fun.
Speaker 4: We joke around while we're out there searching. In my documentaries,
Speaker 4: I do joke a lot. People think sometimes I'm mocking
Speaker 4: it or making fun, but really, to be honest, it
Speaker 4: can scary out.
Speaker 3: There, guys.
Speaker 4: I get scared the way I treat my scary cat nest.
Speaker 4: Yes that's the true word.
Speaker 3: Is I joke.
Speaker 4: It calms me down because when I'm in the dark forest,
Speaker 4: we're going after these giant features that could just easily
Speaker 4: kill you.
Speaker 3: It calms me down.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you can find them on tub, you can
Speaker 4: find them on Plex, you can find them quite a
Speaker 4: few streaming platforms throughout North America. There are streaming platforms
Speaker 4: that I can't see here in Canada that you can
Speaker 4: find them on. Tube is one of the biggest ones
Speaker 4: today alone. I just won two International Film Awards for
Speaker 4: nine and ten. That was exciting. I've won over twenty
Speaker 4: five International Family Awards, which I'm very honored, but people
Speaker 4: want to go and see a new Bigfoot adventure. I've
Speaker 4: also produced two paranormal documentaries where I went into haunted
Speaker 4: places searching for evidence of the undead. I've even published
Speaker 4: a comic book. It's a graphic novel called Searching the
Speaker 4: Sasquats and the Hidden Treasure Bigfoot Valley.
Speaker 3: So it's made.
Speaker 4: They were all ages, including kids, adults, and it's about
Speaker 4: Bigfoot researchers that go into the dark forest looking for
Speaker 4: evidence of Bigfoot and they stumble on a portal and
Speaker 4: they end up finding a treasure as being protected by
Speaker 4: the Bigfoot creatures. There's some kind of a treasure that
Speaker 4: helps the Bigfoot with their abilities to cloak and all
Speaker 4: that good stuff, and they're trying to protect it. I'm
Speaker 4: greedy and I want all the gold.
Speaker 3: And there's a big twist at the end of the
Speaker 3: comic book.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you can find this on Amazon at Walmart
Speaker 4: dot com. Yeah, you can find it online everywhere. I've
Speaker 4: published a bunch of children's books, also called Adventures of
Speaker 4: Jo Jay. This one is rescued a cryptid island. And
Speaker 4: if you've noticed, there's the lock this monster, there's the
Speaker 4: little Ghost there's Mothman, little Indian girl, and there's the
Speaker 4: female Bigfoot and she gets lost. We have to take
Speaker 4: her back to Crypted Island. Yeah, so I publish those.
Speaker 4: They can find those also on Amazon and stuff. How
Speaker 4: many of my search and sas courts documentaris?
Speaker 3: Have you watched the second one?
Speaker 1: But I'm definitely planning on digging into those, And you
Speaker 1: and I will actually be speaking at a conference together
Speaker 1: later this year out in Missouri, the third annual Ozar
Speaker 1: Mountain Bigfoot Conference on September to twenty eighth. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you're going to do the camp out, but
Speaker 1: I'm going to be camping out with them after the
Speaker 1: conference for a couple of days, so you guys can
Speaker 1: head over to event bright. I will have a link
Speaker 1: to that in the show notes, so you guys if
Speaker 1: you want to get tickets and you can come join
Speaker 1: Jason and I and the other speakers out there in Missouri.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that in September.
Speaker 4: What's exciting is I just realized I'm going to be
Speaker 4: filming a searching f sasquats documentary out there, and I'm
Speaker 4: hoping that you will be one of the people I
Speaker 4: can interview on this new documentary. It's going to be
Speaker 4: in the Ozark Mountains. I'm going to be filming some
Speaker 4: of the Bigfoot confidence that we're at. Yeah, it's going
Speaker 4: to be great. I'm very excited to meet you. It's
Speaker 4: going to be a blast. Like he just said, come
Speaker 4: say hi to us, Come tell us your experiences that
Speaker 4: you've had, if you'd be anything. I'm not only going
Speaker 4: to be doing documentaries on Bigfoot. I'm going to be
Speaker 4: branching off doing other cryptids like dog Man, mock Man,
Speaker 4: even the flying dinosaurs of New Mexico, Florida. Skunkcap is
Speaker 4: coming up next. So you can also find me on
Speaker 4: searching for sasquats dot CAA.
Speaker 3: It's my website.
Speaker 4: Find me on TikTok under searching for Sasquatch, on Instagram
Speaker 4: searching sasquatch. You can find me anywhere. You just google
Speaker 4: my name Jason Kenzie. You'll find my animal adventures. You'll
Speaker 4: find lots of news articles over the years, lots of
Speaker 4: crazy stuff. We're all crazy people. We're going after monsters.
Speaker 5: They say you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay.
Speaker 5: I don't want to feel we're all happen job, this
Speaker 5: job time. Everything came in, rickety bricket backs for joy
Speaker 5: from me, joy staying right. You come in right away,
Speaker 5: steps still, steps stay steps past instead passest states, instusts
Speaker 5: pass