1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,719 my daily show prep with all of the links, become 6 00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:22,359 a patron, go to dpeakclendershow dot com. Make sure you 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,920 hit the subscribe button. Get every episode for free right 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,320 to your smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so 9 00:00:27,399 --> 00:00:30,519 much for your support. I'd like to welcome to the program, 10 00:00:30,679 --> 00:00:34,880 JP Moran. He is the founder of a thing called 11 00:00:35,039 --> 00:00:39,759 opscore opp Score Opscore. Jp. How are you, sir? 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: Good good, how are you? Thank thank you for having 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:42,679 me on. 14 00:00:42,799 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, absolutely so. You are the founder of this 15 00:00:45,039 --> 00:00:49,719 nonprofit called go USA. And y'all invented you or the 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,560 you can tell me. Is it just you or is 17 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,920 it like the and the organization that invented this op score? 18 00:00:57,119 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: Well, I primarily invented it along with the the tech 19 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,920 person that that built it all out. The genius, I 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,280 would say, is Jonathan Leno's as well. And we have 21 00:01:06,359 --> 00:01:09,280 a great group of patriots that have been working on 22 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,239 this uh for for the past few years. 23 00:01:11,519 --> 00:01:14,079 Speaker 1: All right, So and you also have run for Congress, 24 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,920 so you you was that the only uh uh national 25 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,359 office you've run for up in I think it was Massachusetts. 26 00:01:21,719 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: Right, that's correct. Yeah, I ran for I ran for. 27 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,879 I was the nominee for Congress and the GOP nominee 28 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,959 in twenty twenty for the sixth district in Massachusetts. 29 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,159 Speaker 1: So, given my limited knowledge of Massachusetts, I'm thinking that 30 00:01:35,159 --> 00:01:38,200 that was not successful being a Republican in Massachusetts. 31 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,239 Speaker 2: Yes, it is definitively the state in the Union, and 32 00:01:43,439 --> 00:01:46,159 uh we it was the middle of COVID. I really 33 00:01:46,239 --> 00:01:49,200 I ran to make a point and to stand up 34 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,480 against the uh you know forces I think that are 35 00:01:51,519 --> 00:01:54,159 working against the American people and the people the residents 36 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,719 of Massachusetts. Right. So I did a principal stand to 37 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,760 run against the corrupt machine up here in Massachusetts. 38 00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:06,599 Speaker 1: Okay. And so was that before or after you created 39 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:07,680 this OP score? 40 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: It was before, Okay, Go USA was kind of a 41 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,000 little bit of like a conservative uh pro America think 42 00:02:14,039 --> 00:02:18,000 tank from twenty eighteen until I ran for Congress. But 43 00:02:18,159 --> 00:02:20,520 it was really invented. It was born from me running 44 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,000 for Congress because it's it's so messed up the politics 45 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,319 in our country. I came to the business owner and 46 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,960 an entrepreneur for years as a scientist an MIT prior 47 00:02:30,039 --> 00:02:33,319 to running, and uh, I thought, you know, I knew, 48 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,599 I knew politics was correct, but man, I didn't know 49 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,960 it was so bad and that there was there really 50 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,240 wasn't a tool to elect people. There's not an easy 51 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,479 to use a nonpartisan tool out there for voters to 52 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,680 help decide who to vote for. So that's what was 53 00:02:46,719 --> 00:02:49,599 the That's that was the inspiration for for inventing it. 54 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,479 A year of ruling time on the on the campaign trail, 55 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,039 realizing that people are just not voting, they're voting against 56 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,680 themselves most of the time, and that was that drove 57 00:02:58,719 --> 00:02:59,159 me crazy. 58 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: So it sounds like you you discovered a disconnect in 59 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,479 the way people vote versus what their views are on 60 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,199 particular issues. 61 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,199 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, exactly. When I ran, I'm I'm a kind 62 00:03:14,199 --> 00:03:16,960 of a numbers tech guy, and I counted that the 63 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,159 thousands of people I met and how much support they 64 00:03:19,159 --> 00:03:21,879 were giving me on the issues when I traveled around 65 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,960 the district. And while Seth Molten, the Democrat incumbent, was 66 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,240 fighting in probably someone's basement, if you know what I mean, 67 00:03:29,439 --> 00:03:31,280 he wouldn't go out and campaign. He wouldn't go out 68 00:03:31,319 --> 00:03:33,919 and he wouldn't debate me or anything, and people, on 69 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,439 issue after issue after issue, I was getting eighty ninety 70 00:03:36,439 --> 00:03:39,319 percent support on everything, And I'm thinking, how is it 71 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,319 possible that you lose a race? If I was a 72 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,280 product in the business world, in the consumer world, I 73 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,840 would easily win. I would easily I would easily easily 74 00:03:48,199 --> 00:03:50,800 win because these people couldn't stand the principles of this, 75 00:03:51,439 --> 00:03:55,560 the far left that that's been running our state. So 76 00:03:55,639 --> 00:04:00,159 we invented the system. And because out of necessity, who 77 00:04:00,159 --> 00:04:02,919 are voting against themselves, they still they keep on electing 78 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,639 people that are working against them. So I figured, let's 79 00:04:05,719 --> 00:04:08,439 let's invent a system that will stop that, that will 80 00:04:08,479 --> 00:04:11,240 just get people tolign themselves up with the people they 81 00:04:11,319 --> 00:04:13,439 want to elect on the issues and not all the 82 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,680 crap that they're being said by the media. 83 00:04:15,719 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: So part of it is also you mentioned, you know, 84 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:21,040 if you were a business or a product or something like, 85 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,120 people would be you know, flocking to it based on 86 00:04:24,399 --> 00:04:27,279 the attributes. But part of it is also branding, right, 87 00:04:27,319 --> 00:04:29,839 I mean, that's a large part of why some you know, 88 00:04:29,879 --> 00:04:33,720 people purchase one item over another. It is there's branding, 89 00:04:33,759 --> 00:04:38,360 there's marketing, and you know, in our system, people identify 90 00:04:38,439 --> 00:04:42,680 with the brands. Now, the brands the two parties, they 91 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,839 they change, they shift. I mean, I've argued for several 92 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,759 years now we're in a realignment of both political parties. 93 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,800 Don't know how it's going to shake out yet, but 94 00:04:51,319 --> 00:04:56,319 the brands are what people identify with, and so that's 95 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,319 why they vote for that particular brand, which is and 96 00:05:00,759 --> 00:05:03,240 a great example of this is in the immigration issue, 97 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,000 where you know, simply what ten fifteen years ago, Democrats 98 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,240 held the position that Donald Trump is espousing, and yet 99 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,800 you go forward, you know, through the Obama presidency and 100 00:05:13,879 --> 00:05:19,079 now it's essentially an open borders platform in the Democrat 101 00:05:19,319 --> 00:05:21,839 or a plank in the Democrat platform, and there was 102 00:05:21,879 --> 00:05:24,199 no vote for that. There wasn't anybody, there was no 103 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,079 discussion like, hey, from now on, you know, we're going 104 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,680 to abandon all of these former positions. So how much 105 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,000 of this stuff, though, is branding where people just identify 106 00:05:33,439 --> 00:05:36,399 themselves as the as a member of that party. 107 00:05:37,199 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: Well, that's the problem is exactly that there's a I 108 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,000 would estimate there's about a forty point advantage right right 109 00:05:44,079 --> 00:05:47,000 of the block, right you know, the disadvantage for Republicans 110 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,240 because of the Democrat brand, which is you know, if 111 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,519 you look at the media is eighty ninety percent at 112 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,160 least up up until recently. Maybe it's changing a little bit. 113 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:00,360 It was owned by the least corporate corporate America is 114 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,160 more or less owned by the left. Look at Columbia 115 00:06:03,199 --> 00:06:06,079 and Harvard and in most universities are owned by the left. 116 00:06:06,079 --> 00:06:10,839 So there's a constant, constant diet of constant Republicans, bad 117 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:11,800 Democrats good. 118 00:06:11,959 --> 00:06:12,399 Speaker 1: That's it. 119 00:06:13,079 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: And and and in actuality, we have the data. We 120 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,839 looked at the top the top twenty five issues that 121 00:06:18,879 --> 00:06:21,959 people care about in America which are on our system, 122 00:06:21,959 --> 00:06:24,680 which are which are based on many many polls from 123 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,040 Pure Research and RAS Muse and Gallop and others, and 124 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,240 other polls we've done. The number is actually eighty five 125 00:06:31,319 --> 00:06:35,199 it's not eighty percent. It's eighty five percent support common 126 00:06:35,199 --> 00:06:39,000 sense principles, which are kind of Maga America principles, and 127 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,279 only fifteen percent support the far left. And that wasn't 128 00:06:42,319 --> 00:06:44,279 the you know, that wasn't the case maybe ten or 129 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,360 twenty years ago. But they, like you said, they've gone 130 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,439 for open borders, eighty eighty percent of people don't want 131 00:06:50,439 --> 00:06:52,800 to open borders, eighty percent of people want want to 132 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,480 give or take eighty eighty five percent don't want biological 133 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,920 men and women's sports. So this is what we're dealing with. 134 00:06:57,959 --> 00:07:01,160 They're they've gone, they've taken extreme to thes and they 135 00:07:01,199 --> 00:07:03,639 think they think they can just keep getting re elected 136 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,560 because they have the Democrat brand name, and they have 137 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,839 the media, and they have the you know, the globalists 138 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,720 on their side, and they can just say, screw the voters, 139 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,839 We're going to shove this down your throat because we're 140 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,480 you know, and then we I don't care if the 141 00:07:14,879 --> 00:07:17,439 Republicans did that. We we just have to just much 142 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,120 after the Republicans. So it's truly not you know, the 143 00:07:21,199 --> 00:07:24,800 system that we built is populists do what you If 144 00:07:24,839 --> 00:07:26,959 you stand for the American people on the issues, you 145 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,439 get a good rating and then people flocked to vote 146 00:07:29,439 --> 00:07:31,120 for you. And that's where I think that's where it 147 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,759 needs to go and not this branding thing where people 148 00:07:33,759 --> 00:07:36,360 buy by the brand and forget about the quality of 149 00:07:36,439 --> 00:07:37,439 about what they're delivering. 150 00:07:37,879 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit about this, uh, this 151 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,439 OP score, Why why is it called op score. 152 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,519 Speaker 2: So the name is op score's it's it stands for 153 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,000 Opportunities Score. So where a Grand Opportunity USA is the 154 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,399 full name of our organization, and opportunities are is the 155 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,000 is the focus of our mission because where the where 156 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,399 the land of opportunity and opportunities what everybody wants and 157 00:07:58,439 --> 00:08:02,439 it's nobody could argue that's artisan, right, Opportunities sort of 158 00:08:02,439 --> 00:08:08,199 the center of our organization and it's thematically and the 159 00:08:08,279 --> 00:08:11,240 name of the score is actually the Opportunity Score. Now 160 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,800 we were going to think about, well, so it's really 161 00:08:12,839 --> 00:08:14,639 kind of a common sense score, but you really can't 162 00:08:14,639 --> 00:08:17,040 trademark that, and anybody can come up with their common 163 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,959 sense score, So we wanted to come up with something 164 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,199 that was unique. So OPS scores are trademark brand. It's 165 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,079 the short version of Opportunity Score. 166 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: And people can go to the website opscore dot org. 167 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,560 Is it yes, okay? 168 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: You could see the ratings at opp so it's two 169 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,360 ps opsport dot org and you can actually take a test. 170 00:08:36,399 --> 00:08:39,039 And the magic that we that we found was that 171 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,399 we rated people since twenty twenty two and this is 172 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,919 where we found out that you know the numbers if 173 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,399 you get down to the brass tax on it are 174 00:08:47,399 --> 00:08:53,360 about sixty seven percent or strongly support MAGA principles, thirteen 175 00:08:53,399 --> 00:08:57,279 support percent support Democrat principles, and then twenty percent in 176 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,000 the middle they go five to one. Given the choice 177 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,240 between the two between Republicans and Democrats, they'll pick the Republican. 178 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:05,840 So that's how the numbers work out. 179 00:09:07,279 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: And those are from the people that have been taking 180 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:10,159 the test. 181 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 2: Yes, those people that are that well, those are people 182 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,080 that have been taking the test that were where you take. 183 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,960 You take the quiz and on the exact same principles. 184 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,919 We rate all the politicians do We rated every every 185 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,000 politician in America twenty twenty five issues, thirty six questions 186 00:09:27,039 --> 00:09:29,840 times one thousand, all the five hundred and thirty five 187 00:09:29,879 --> 00:09:31,639 members of Congress, and all their challengers. So you can 188 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,000 imagine that the work involved with that because we have 189 00:09:34,039 --> 00:09:36,799 a team of volunteers manually looking where do they stand 190 00:09:36,799 --> 00:09:39,159 on the on on abortion, on the first Amendment of 191 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,759 the second element, on borders, on taxes, on you name 192 00:09:41,799 --> 00:09:44,639 it right, all the things that people care about. So 193 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,759 that's that's how we created it is uh And and 194 00:09:46,799 --> 00:09:49,480 when you when you take the offscore challenge, you take 195 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,159 the test yourself and then you get a number from 196 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,840 they get a five answer opportunity to positive five strong 197 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,440 pro opportunity, and then there's all these numbers in between, 198 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,279 and then you get to see where you line up 199 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,200 with your politician, almost like a dating app where you say, okay, 200 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,200 these are my interests. I want to date somebody that 201 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,840 has my interest in mind. There's app there's dating apps 202 00:10:06,879 --> 00:10:08,559 that do that. We said, well, let's take some popular 203 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,799 culture Rotten Tomatoes ratings and the yelpbratings that people were 204 00:10:11,879 --> 00:10:13,840 used to seeing and mix it with some kind of 205 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,000 you know, lining yourself up based on your your political 206 00:10:17,039 --> 00:10:19,919 personality and see where you stand and when people do that. 207 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,559 We actually got the number that sixty percent of Democrats 208 00:10:24,279 --> 00:10:27,960 switch to choose Republicans and the eighty three percent of 209 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,799 independence actually chose Republicans when you know America first Republicans 210 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,399 when they after they took the test. So now we 211 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,480 know from that and from other research we did with 212 00:10:38,519 --> 00:10:41,759 the poll in Wisconsin last prior to that, that the 213 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,120 numbers all jive. That the numbers are consistent, that the vast, 214 00:10:45,159 --> 00:10:47,879 vast majority of people over eighty percent agree on the 215 00:10:47,759 --> 00:10:49,799 on the on the principles we talked about every day, 216 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,519 and the radical left stands on only less than twenty percent, 217 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:58,679 and actually the far far left AOC Elizabeth Warren, Tamala Harris. 218 00:10:59,039 --> 00:11:00,919 When you add up where they of the issues, we 219 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,919 have evidence proven they only have one percent one percent 220 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,399 support of the population and only ten percent of support 221 00:11:06,399 --> 00:11:09,200 of actual Democrats. So how can they say they're saving 222 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:14,279 democracy when they are definitively have no support, but yet 223 00:11:14,279 --> 00:11:16,720 they're shoving their policies down of throats hoping to get 224 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,480 over elected. That to me is tyranny on a grand scale. 225 00:11:19,519 --> 00:11:22,399 Speaker 1: So the idea that has to stop, right, and so 226 00:11:22,879 --> 00:11:26,000 the idea here is that people go onto the website, 227 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,799 they do the challenge, which I did. I went over 228 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,039 there the other day and I took it. Okay, Yeah, 229 00:11:30,039 --> 00:11:31,840 it came out as like a plus four and a 230 00:11:31,879 --> 00:11:34,720 half or something, and so then and then it lines 231 00:11:34,799 --> 00:11:38,159 you up with it, then lines you up with okay, 232 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,679 so based on your score hears and I think it 233 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,879 was the presidential race. It said Donald Trump is the 234 00:11:42,919 --> 00:11:45,840 candidate that's closest to your score, and so people can 235 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,799 use that as a tool. And the idea then is 236 00:11:47,799 --> 00:11:49,679 that if you can get them to go through the 237 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:55,240 thirty six questions right then you get you can help. 238 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,879 It directs them to the candidates that share their beliefs, 239 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,919 and maybe breaks through the branding. 240 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: Exactly exactly. In fact, our motto is it's not left 241 00:12:07,759 --> 00:12:10,399 or right or red versus blue, it is them versus you. 242 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,320 Because if you're voting for people that don't support your values, 243 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,000 they're controlling you and you're they're doing they're working outside 244 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,879 of your interest, they're working against you. So that's why 245 00:12:19,879 --> 00:12:21,759 we say it's not red versus blue, it's then versus you. 246 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,799 And and we do have the evidence that you know, 247 00:12:24,039 --> 00:12:26,480 we can't follow someone into the voting booth, but when 248 00:12:26,519 --> 00:12:29,360 someone's presented with their score and then they're able to 249 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,120 choose who they're going to vote for, I mean, that's 250 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,519 as close as you're going to get. Like, you get 251 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,720 a score, you line up and and and and from that, 252 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,360 that's where we get these these these large numbers where 253 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,279 our numbers in Wisconsin and then and then when we 254 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,600 did the actual test with actual voters, where we reached 255 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,080 almost a million people the last election cycle with ads 256 00:12:48,879 --> 00:12:51,120 and some and then then some of them went and 257 00:12:51,159 --> 00:12:53,559 took the took the challenge and of those that took 258 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,480 the challenge, the numbers were eighty five percent on average 259 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,720 support you know, really support America first Republican values, and 260 00:12:59,759 --> 00:13:02,039 they they will vote that way and switch how they vote. 261 00:13:02,159 --> 00:13:04,399 It's kind of like the Pepsi Challenge of politics because 262 00:13:04,399 --> 00:13:07,759 people back you remember the challenge where people drink vote 263 00:13:07,759 --> 00:13:09,759 for and people thought they like cope when they tried 264 00:13:09,759 --> 00:13:12,480 and they like pepsi in a blind test. That's why 265 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,360 we came up with the outscore challenge because we know 266 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,399 that the vast majority of people agree and they're actually 267 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,720 on the side of you know, pro America principles, but 268 00:13:21,799 --> 00:13:24,759 they're voting against themselves half the time. So we're thinking, well, 269 00:13:24,759 --> 00:13:26,960 how about you take a quick test, line yourself up, 270 00:13:27,039 --> 00:13:29,519 cut out all the bs, and we do that. We 271 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,799 find that people are willing to change because you know what, 272 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:34,679 they want to vote against themselves. They'll vote for party 273 00:13:34,799 --> 00:13:37,080 all day long. But the only thing that will break 274 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,759 that is when they realize they're voting against themselves because 275 00:13:40,799 --> 00:13:42,519 they just took the test and they can look at 276 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,120 the data and they can look at the ratings from 277 00:13:44,159 --> 00:13:46,600 these people and say, well, I'm on the First Amendment, 278 00:13:46,639 --> 00:13:48,919 why I'm oh, wait a minute, I'm for the First Amendment, 279 00:13:48,919 --> 00:13:50,879 and where's this person against it? And they can in 280 00:13:50,919 --> 00:13:53,759 the outscore ratings, we actually put the evidence, so you 281 00:13:53,799 --> 00:13:55,440 don't just we don't just rate them out of the blue. 282 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,200 We do that work and then we show where we 283 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,639 get the evidence. Frump, what's the voting record or what's 284 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,840 their state minute? And we put a link right there 285 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,200 so it's all transparent. There's no bs going on. It's like, 286 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,519 this is where we came up with it. Oh, there 287 00:14:06,519 --> 00:14:09,399 are four teachers unions and they're they're against school choice. 288 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,200 It's straight there, it's not debatable. It's there against school choice. 289 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,879 Eighty eighty five percent of people are for school choice. 290 00:14:15,919 --> 00:14:16,279 Where do you. 291 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,799 Speaker 1: Stand, JP, Marie did it? 292 00:14:18,879 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 293 00:14:19,159 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: No, I appreciate it. I enjoyed the test as well. 294 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,799 I thought it was very accurate and people can try 295 00:14:24,799 --> 00:14:29,519 it out for themselves. Opscore dot org. That's oppscore dot org, 296 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,039 opscore dot org and JP Moran, the founder of opscore 297 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,679 and go USA. I appreciate you making some time for 298 00:14:36,759 --> 00:14:38,279 us today. Good luck with the project. 299 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,759 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Thank you very much. And I'll 300 00:14:40,759 --> 00:14:42,120 say that just if I can say one of the 301 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,440 quick things. That's based on the twenty twenty four race, 302 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,919 so you're going to see candidates and from the twenty 303 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,759 twenty four race because we don't have the twenty twenty 304 00:14:49,799 --> 00:14:52,720 six races lined up yet, so it's still instructional. You'll 305 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,799 still see where you stand. But don't be shocked when 306 00:14:54,799 --> 00:14:56,159 you see, oh, I lined up with the person that 307 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,159 lost the race, or when they're raced right right right, No, 308 00:14:58,399 --> 00:15:00,440 twenty twenty six, it's going to be this seeing people 309 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,840 from twenty twenty four one lost. 310 00:15:03,279 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: All right, that's a good point. JP, thanks so much, man, 311 00:15:05,639 --> 00:15:07,559 have a great weekend. Thank you you too, all right, 312 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,519 take care. Here's a great idea. How about making an 313 00:15:10,639 --> 00:15:13,799 escape to a really special and secluded getaway in western 314 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,360 North Carolina. Just a quick drive up the mountain and 315 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,440 Cabins of Ashville is your connection. 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Alrighty, so, 334 00:16:24,159 --> 00:16:27,639 last hour we started we started listening to some of 335 00:16:27,639 --> 00:16:30,399 the highlights of the Joe Biden appearance on the View 336 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,840 that occurred yesterday. It was a live interview. It was 337 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,039 I will say it wasn't as bad. I don't think 338 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,320 it was quite as bad as the debate, but it 339 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,200 wasn't very good, and it's got people wondering like why 340 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,799 are they doing this? Why is he now getting out 341 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,320 there and he's still running around Like the Democrat Party 342 00:16:50,399 --> 00:16:56,200 is in is in need of new leadership. What are 343 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:01,039 you doing running around talking about you know, legacy and 344 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,720 how bad Trump is and all of this, Like the 345 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:08,359 party is trying to move beyond you. Right, So I 346 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,799 have some more sound bites. I re racked the last 347 00:17:11,799 --> 00:17:14,240 one that I played, but I'm going to start this 348 00:17:14,279 --> 00:17:17,720 one again. There have been a number of deeply sourced 349 00:17:17,759 --> 00:17:19,559 This was the question from one of the members of 350 00:17:19,599 --> 00:17:21,880 the view, one of the hosts, I think it was 351 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,200 Sonny Houstin or hoston, and she said, there's been a 352 00:17:25,279 --> 00:17:30,759 number of deeply sourced from Democrats, deeply sourced books and 353 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,920 news articles that claim there was a dramatic decline in 354 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,960 your cognitive abilities in your final year. Are these sources wrong? 355 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 2: They are wrong. 356 00:17:41,519 --> 00:17:46,559 Speaker 3: There's nothing to sustain that number one. Number two, you know, 357 00:17:47,279 --> 00:17:49,799 think of what we're left for. We left for the 358 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:57,079 circumstance where we had an insurrection and I started nonsensus 359 00:17:57,079 --> 00:18:00,720 civil war. We had a circumstance where we were in 360 00:18:00,759 --> 00:18:06,000 a position that we well, the pandemic because of the 361 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,319 incompetence of the last outfit, end up over a million 362 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,680 people dying. A million people dying. And we're also in 363 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:18,400 a situation where we found ourselves unable to deal with 364 00:18:19,039 --> 00:18:21,920 a lot of just basic issues. And I won't go 365 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,240 into it in interest of time. And so we went 366 00:18:25,279 --> 00:18:28,599 to work and we got it done. And you know, 367 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,960 one of the things that that well. 368 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 4: Well, and listen, you know, one of the things I 369 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,359 think is that the people who wrote those books were 370 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,359 not in the White House with us, and they didn't 371 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:46,440 see how hard Joe worked every single day. I mean 372 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,720 he'd get up, he put in a full day, and 373 00:18:49,759 --> 00:18:52,960 then at night he would I'd be in bed, you know, 374 00:18:53,039 --> 00:18:55,480 reading my book, and he was still on the phone, 375 00:18:55,599 --> 00:19:01,319 reading his briefings, working with staff. I mean, was NonStop. 376 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,759 It's the White House. Being president is not like a job. 377 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,599 It's a lifestyle. It's a life that you live. You 378 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,440 live it twenty four hours a day. That phone can 379 00:19:12,519 --> 00:19:15,319 ring at eleven o'clock at night or two in the morning. 380 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:20,799 It's constant. You never leave it. And Joe worked really hard. 381 00:19:20,839 --> 00:19:22,480 I think he was a great president. 382 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,839 Speaker 1: Didn't answer the question, you know, doctor Jill to the rescue. 383 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,119 He had no real answer. She had no direct answer, 384 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,359 just that he was busy all day. He kept busy. 385 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,799 Look how busy he is. Oh my goodness, he's just, 386 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,480 you know, doddering around the White House all day, just 387 00:19:41,519 --> 00:19:44,599 talking to people and reading stuff, and oh my goodness. Yeah, 388 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,920 the question was about his cognitive decline and the deeply 389 00:19:49,559 --> 00:19:52,920 sourced reports that now the truth can be told, as 390 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,160 I've been documenting for almost a year now, right now 391 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,799 that Joe is out, now everybody can talk about what 392 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,440 we could all see what our own eyes. All right, 393 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,279 if you're listening to this show, you know I try 394 00:20:03,279 --> 00:20:05,079 to keep up with all sorts of current events, and 395 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,160 I know you do too, And you've probably heard me 396 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,440 say get your news from multiple sources. Why. Well, because 397 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,119 it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've 398 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,480 been so impressed with ground News. 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Subscribe through that link and you'll get 410 00:20:52,839 --> 00:20:56,160 fifteen percent off any subscription. I use the Vantage plan 411 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,599 to get unlimited access to every feature. Your subscription then 412 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,480 not only helps my podcast, but it also supports Ground 413 00:21:02,559 --> 00:21:06,480 News as they make the media landscape more transparent. Joe 414 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:12,200 Biden dodges a question about his relationship with Obama after 415 00:21:12,559 --> 00:21:15,720 you'll recall Barack Obama said that you know, the party 416 00:21:15,759 --> 00:21:18,160 should move on and Joe should step aside, and all 417 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,640 of that in the pressure campaign behind the scenes. So 418 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,640 what's his relationship like with Obama? 419 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 2: Now? 420 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,319 Speaker 1: Oh, hang on, hang on, hang on. I muted the 421 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,599 computer so I wouldn't play all right, here we go, 422 00:21:32,559 --> 00:21:33,920 now we hear Joe. 423 00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 3: I think that the only reason I got out of 424 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:42,319 the race was because I didn't want to have and 425 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:47,599 divide the Democratic Party. It's a simple proposition, and so 426 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,000 that's why I got out of the race. I thought 427 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:51,759 it was better to put the country ahead of my interest, 428 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,960 my personal interest. I'm not being facetious. I'm being deadly 429 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:55,599 earnest about that. 430 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely. I love listening to the hosts on 431 00:21:59,519 --> 00:22:05,000 the view. Oh yeah, just all it's just it's unseemly. 432 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,480 It's just kind of sick factor, you know. So he 433 00:22:09,519 --> 00:22:11,200 got out. The only reason he got out of the 434 00:22:11,279 --> 00:22:14,119 race was because he didn't want to divide the Democrat Party. 435 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:19,279 Well why was the Democrat Party divided? Because apparently a 436 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:25,240 critical mass of the party believed you could not run again. 437 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,559 And the reason they thought you couldn't run again was 438 00:22:28,599 --> 00:22:30,480 because you weren't going to win. And the reason you 439 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,640 weren't going to win was because of all the stuff 440 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,359 you had done in your first term that you claim 441 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,160 was so successful that everybody loved you for, but apparently 442 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,079 weren't going to vote for you again and because of 443 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:46,039 your cognitive impairment. That's what all of the new reports are, 444 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,880 That's what all the books are about. Everybody's talking about 445 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,359 the thing that we all identified four years ago. 446 00:22:53,839 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: I think that you know, we be still but this 447 00:23:01,839 --> 00:23:05,680 way I had six more months. I did pretty good, 448 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:11,319 John in six months. As I take job what I know. 449 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,720 I would doing the G twenty in Brazil in November. 450 00:23:15,319 --> 00:23:17,759 Speaker 1: I remember, I was, I mean. 451 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 3: There's nothing to change in terms of my work, ethic 452 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,039 or the success we had with foreign policy or domestic policy. 453 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,000 And but look, I understand, and the last thing we 454 00:23:30,079 --> 00:23:34,440 needed was for me to And by the way, he's 455 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,839 not a legitimate to say, look, I know it only 456 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,920 looks like he's forty, but but you know, at the 457 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,119 end of that term, you know, he'd be eighty six 458 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:45,640 years old. 459 00:23:45,759 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 2: I get it. 460 00:23:47,079 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 3: I understand the concern, I really do. But the point 461 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,319 of the matter is that I would I would offer 462 00:23:55,319 --> 00:23:58,839 specific evidence if we had time, exactly what I got 463 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,240 done when I was supposed to they lost my cognitive capability. 464 00:24:02,759 --> 00:24:05,680 And secondly, what we did after we get out of 465 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:06,920 the race. I said, when I got out of the race, 466 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,960 I was still going to be president. I think I 467 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,200 did a pretty damn good job the last six months. 468 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: Yeah I did, or somebody did, right, somebody who was 469 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,240 signing executive orders and doing all sorts of wacky stuff 470 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,519 that the Supreme Court had to say, like, yeah, you 471 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:26,720 actually cannot ratify a constitutional amendment Via tweet. Why did 472 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,319 Democrats he was then asked why did his fellow Democrats 473 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,599 buy into this whole idea that you couldn't win again? 474 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:34,920 Why did they buy into it? 475 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,519 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, we still were whenning primary, we 476 00:24:38,519 --> 00:24:42,920 were still doing everything. The Democratic Party at large didn't 477 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,680 buy into it, but the Democratic leadership and some of 478 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:51,119 the very significant contributors did, even though we raised enormously. 479 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,480 Like when I left the race, Kama had one hundreds 480 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,599 of millions of dollars. She had the best organized or campaign, 481 00:24:57,079 --> 00:25:00,920 every organization, every state was organized, et cetera. But you 482 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:06,680 know what happens is that it took on a life 483 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,880 as and I had a very bad I'm going to 484 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,400 say something outratious. I've a lot of lost many debates 485 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,200 in my life. I've been pretty good at doing that. 486 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:15,599 I was sick. 487 00:25:16,079 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: I was Wait wait what I thought it was a stutter. 488 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,799 Now it's he was sick. He's saying he was sick. 489 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,400 I had a bad night. That's what he said. I 490 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,920 had a bad night. I had a bad night. We 491 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,160 didn't hear anything about him being sick. Now he's claiming 492 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,960 he was sick during the debate, and that's why he 493 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:42,000 didn't do so hot during the debate. Also he had 494 00:25:42,039 --> 00:25:44,079 a bunch of problems from the donors and stuff, but 495 00:25:44,279 --> 00:25:46,960 they still left Kamala Harris with hundreds of millions of dollars. 496 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,200 They had her well positioned to win. We had everything 497 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,359 set up right, We had these the infrastructure in place. 498 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,559 He had won the primaries mainly because they, you know, 499 00:25:55,599 --> 00:26:00,000 wouldn't allow anybody to run against him, like this is 500 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,599 not a good performance. 501 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:03,759 Speaker 2: But I was. 502 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,039 Speaker 1: It's an explanation. 503 00:26:05,599 --> 00:26:10,279 Speaker 3: And I had a bad, bad night, and and I 504 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:11,640 had anyway, I'm not coming. 505 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,319 Speaker 5: You immediately know you had had a bad night. 506 00:26:13,519 --> 00:26:16,079 Speaker 3: Yeah I did. But even after that, the poster showed 507 00:26:16,079 --> 00:26:17,000 me down by two points. 508 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: And now remember we covered this story also where they 509 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:28,400 were not showing him negative polling, his his his aids right, 510 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,119 the bubble that was protecting him, These people that were 511 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,880 around him that shielded him from stuff. They would not 512 00:26:34,039 --> 00:26:38,039 give him any of the polling data if it reflected 513 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,519 very badly for his chances. So he may really believe 514 00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:47,319 this that he could have won because the information he 515 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,480 was allowed to see was always information that led him 516 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:51,359 to believe he could win. 517 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,799 Speaker 4: Joe came on, I went on to the stage after 518 00:26:54,839 --> 00:26:56,839 the debate. I mean we all saw it. 519 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: It was terrible. 520 00:26:57,839 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 4: And so Joe looked at me and he said, well, 521 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,480 I'll use screwed up. He said, I we didn't say that. 522 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,920 And I said, you all know Joe Biden, we know 523 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,440 what he's said. 524 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: He curses everybody. Oh my gosh. 525 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 4: But we have hundreds of people waiting for us. Put 526 00:27:12,279 --> 00:27:15,039 your shoulders back, walk out there, you know, be who 527 00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:18,759 you are. And we were not going to let ninety 528 00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:23,559 minutes of a debate define his presidency and all those 529 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:24,599 years of service. 530 00:27:25,319 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: No, but no, it's not what happened. It's not that 531 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,240 that defined his presidency. It's that nobody could look away 532 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:38,000 from the truth any longer. That the gig was up 533 00:27:39,079 --> 00:27:43,440 byron yorke Over at the Washington Examiner. He had a 534 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,440 really good write up on there's a new book coming 535 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,720 out twenty twenty four, How Trump retook the White House 536 00:27:49,759 --> 00:27:53,160 and the Democrats Lost America. It's written by Tyler Pager 537 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,400 from the New York Times, Josh Dawsey from the Wall 538 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,640 Street Journal, and Isaac Arnsdorf from the Washington Post. Another 539 00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:04,279 now it can be told the thing that we all 540 00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:07,799 saw the author's report, the top White House aids debated, 541 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,079 having Biden undergo a cognitive test to prove his fitness 542 00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:15,400 for a second term, but ultimately decided against the move. 543 00:28:17,599 --> 00:28:20,880 And he goes on to say, there is an inside 544 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:26,400 story and an outside story, right, the inside story of 545 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,920 Biden's decline, the outside story of Biden's decline. So what 546 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,920 is the inside story? That is the effort by the 547 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:39,000 White House staff and Democrat allies supporters in the media 548 00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:43,759 to conceal Biden's problem. That's the inside story. The outside 549 00:28:43,839 --> 00:28:50,440 story is the many public appearances, moments where Biden appeared confused, lost, 550 00:28:50,759 --> 00:28:54,400 or frozen, and millions of viewers could see for themselves 551 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,880 that the president had a serious problem. Another way to 552 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,880 put it, he says, would be to say that the 553 00:29:00,119 --> 00:29:05,079 inside story was the effort to deny that the outside 554 00:29:05,119 --> 00:29:08,640 story existed. And there is a word for this, people, 555 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:14,119 and that word is gaslighting. That's what we were all 556 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:19,000 subjected to. 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Mail orders 584 00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:50,960 are accepted to get all the details that create a 585 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:58,039 video dot com. So Biden Inc. Has collapsed. Mark halperin, 586 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,759 you know reporter guy. He now does a show called 587 00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:05,880 two Way, and he has on as regular guests. They 588 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,000 talk about, you know, the media coverage of the day 589 00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:11,480 and issues and whatnot. And he regularly has on a 590 00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:15,640 Democrat and Republican. The Republican is Sean Spicer and the 591 00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:20,200 Democrat is a guy named Dan Turantine. And hal Prince 592 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:28,640 says that you could say that Biden is doing this 593 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,039 media tour. He got the comms people in now to 594 00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:37,240 work for him right to fight back and protect his 595 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,680 legacy and protect his reputation. Yes, you could say that. 596 00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:42,519 That's one thing. 597 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 6: I talked to him is someone very familiar with the Bidens, 598 00:31:46,119 --> 00:31:48,200 and I think they've pointed out something that I'm going 599 00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:51,160 to say now that to me is the explanation, or 600 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,400 at least part of the explanation, which is Biden Inc. 601 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,759 Has collapsed. All those Biden grandkids had a lavish lifestyle, 602 00:31:58,759 --> 00:32:02,400 which they very much like. Hunter made hundreds of thousands 603 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,960 of dollars millions of dollars. Joe as a former president 604 00:32:06,119 --> 00:32:08,000 is not in a position to get the same kind 605 00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:12,759 of paid speeches, corporate boards, book deal. Biden Inc. Needs 606 00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:15,880 a source of revenue, and Hunter does even though he 607 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,079 was pardoned it he's not going to prison. Hunter does 608 00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:20,119 not have great earning capacity. And you look at the 609 00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:20,880 rest of the family. 610 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 5: Wait, wait, wait, paintings aren't worth a lot. 611 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 6: The paintings are not worth a lot. So what I'm 612 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,160 positing for you guys to weigh in on Dan first 613 00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:32,440 is is my source, right is what's at least part 614 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,680 of this is about, is the reality that Biden Inc. 615 00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:40,640 The trough is empty, the spigot has shut down. They 616 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,240 need a way to get back in the game, to 617 00:32:42,279 --> 00:32:45,920 make big money, to have the grandchildren fed and clothed 618 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,839 and flown first class, et cetera. 619 00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 7: It certainly could be. I think the challenge is at 620 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,920 his age, you know, kind of trying to start a 621 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,920 new career, so to speak, a new set of endeavors 622 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:57,880 is very hard. 623 00:32:58,079 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 6: Who else is going to do it? 624 00:32:59,680 --> 00:32:59,839 Speaker 2: Though? 625 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 7: No, I mean that's the thing, right, His brother has 626 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,759 been under FBI. You know, watch now You've got Hunters issues. 627 00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:12,000 It very well could be. I just think the challenge 628 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,839 for him is in all of these appearances. And I'll 629 00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:17,880 add Jill to this. We know what everyone wants to 630 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,480 ask him about, about why you dropped out, about his 631 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,440 age about and at least maybe we'll see today something different. 632 00:33:24,839 --> 00:33:27,440 He still doesn't have good answers. 633 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: Correct, He still doesn't have good answers. This was yesterday 634 00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:36,799 morning before Biden's appearance on the View, and he got 635 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,200 asked those very questions that Dan Turnantine said people want 636 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,160 to ask him, and he still doesn't have good answers 637 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,359 because there isn't one like this is there's a reason 638 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,680 why it looks like he's trying to cover up cognitive decline. 639 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,839 It's because he's trying to cover up cognitive decline, like 640 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,920 that's the answer, And because he doesn't have good answers 641 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,960 that could set back the cause of Biden Inc. Which 642 00:34:06,079 --> 00:34:09,000 they say was pulling in probably somewhere around ten million 643 00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:14,159 dollars a year and now basically nothing, says Sean Spicer. 644 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 5: The grift is over right. The big guy's not getting 645 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,280 his cut anymore, and that's a problem. 646 00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:20,039 Speaker 1: I get it. 647 00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 5: They've lived a very lavish lifestyle, the beach house. I 648 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,480 got to imagine the property taxes aren't cheap. They're used 649 00:34:25,519 --> 00:34:27,599 to a certain lifestyle, but not just them. To your point, 650 00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:30,159 the whole family, it was coming from one source and 651 00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:34,880 they lost their USAID funding. Basically, this is a problem. 652 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,679 I get it. But to your point, I don't see 653 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,679 where the new source is. No one wants to number one, 654 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,320 no one wants to know what he thinks. Number two, 655 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,000 he doesn't know what he thinks, and that's a bigger 656 00:34:46,039 --> 00:34:48,360 problem when he goes on the view today. To your point, 657 00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:51,599 when I watched that BBC interview, he just set himself back. 658 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,079 Speaker 6: And you don't think You don't think the Washington Speakers 659 00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:55,880 Bureau and CAA looked at that and said, man, that 660 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,039 guy needs to be flown all over the country in 661 00:34:58,039 --> 00:35:00,719 the world giving eight hundred thousand dollars a place speeches. 662 00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 4: No. 663 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 5: No, I think they looked at him and said, hey, 664 00:35:05,039 --> 00:35:07,360 we're we're in the middle of a briefing right now. 665 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 7: We're going to get back to you. Yeah, after the 666 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,280 company retreat. 667 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 6: Like the family's income has taken not just a hit, 668 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,679 it's it's gone from millions to to I mean, I 669 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,960 don't know what he's making now. You know he got 670 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,360 that one paid speech. 671 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,559 Speaker 5: But that's what four hundred grand a year as a 672 00:35:24,559 --> 00:35:25,719 former president. 673 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,599 Speaker 6: Right right, But it's it's nothing like that. 674 00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:29,519 Speaker 7: I mean, I took. 675 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 6: That's that's a couple that's a couple of months of barisma. 676 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:32,920 That's nothing. 677 00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: Listen to the way they're talking about Joe Biden there. 678 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,840 They sound like us, like Mark Halperin and even the 679 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,360 Democrat guy. They sound they're saying things that we were 680 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:49,519 saying four years ago. The damn is broken. And I 681 00:35:49,559 --> 00:35:54,000 think that Halperin quoting this source that is very familiar 682 00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:56,960 with the Bidens. Whoever this may be either way, I 683 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,760 think this is what's going on. They got to get 684 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,760 some money. Hunter. Biden's paintings are not covering the nut. 685 00:36:05,039 --> 00:36:09,800 You know, they got bills to pay here. Also, the 686 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,079 Trump administration is making plans to release the audio of 687 00:36:13,199 --> 00:36:17,119 Joe Biden's interview with Robert Herr. That was the special 688 00:36:17,159 --> 00:36:21,719 counsel who investigated Biden's handling of classified documents. And remember 689 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,840 he raised questions about Biden's mental acuity when he said, 690 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,400 we're not going to prosecute him because he's a you know, 691 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:33,960 he's an elderly man with a failing memory. So you 692 00:36:34,039 --> 00:36:36,679 got the her audio, and you have the book coming 693 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,360 out by Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson that's going to 694 00:36:41,079 --> 00:36:45,400 plumb the depths maybe of this scandal. Now. I did 695 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,480 like this. Sean Spicer said that if Joe Biden keeps 696 00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:51,880 litigating the past in these interviews and appearances, he's not 697 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,239 going to be able to get more speaking gigs because 698 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,239 nobody cares about him saying how bad Trump is and 699 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,000 we did all these great things. Halper and then suggest 700 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,639 tested one way Biden could become relevant here and sought 701 00:37:04,679 --> 00:37:06,920 after is if he writes in his memoir, which he's 702 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,119 allegedly writing now, he could write the mother of all 703 00:37:11,519 --> 00:37:16,320 tell all books and just burn every bridge that would 704 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:21,719 make it. That would make it an attractive booking. All right, 705 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,079 that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much 706 00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:26,159 for listening. I could not do the show without your 707 00:37:26,199 --> 00:37:28,960 support and the support of the businesses that advertise on 708 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,800 the podcast, So if you'd like, please support them too 709 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,519 and tell them you heard it here. 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