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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in everybody. It's Friday. It's time for

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full court press. Robino. I can't believe that Campbell and

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William and Mary both essentially got to the mid eighties

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and didn't go over that total.

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Speaker 2: It stays under by half a point. Otherwise we were two.

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Speaker 1: It cost us our parlay, and I'm watching that game

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and I'm like, oh, this is definitely gonna get over.

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And it got kind of tight at the end there

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eighty four eighty three final lands one sixty seven, and

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I think we had one sixty eight in the parlay, which.

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Speaker 2: Was, you know, disappointing.

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Speaker 1: But again, I think that game final five to six minutes,

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I think seven eight times out of ten, that's probably

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finding its way over one.

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Speaker 2: Way or another. Could have had overtime. So a little

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bit unlucky on that. Outside of that, how how did

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your night go?

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Speaker 3: It ended up being a split because as unlucky as

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the last let's say four and a half five minutes

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were in William and May and Campbell, I lucked out

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by half a point in Portland State Idaho. I had

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over one forty three and a half they landed one

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forty four. And that game kind of rallied at the

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end to get over the total, where William and Mary

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and Campbell were on pace, very much so on pace

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mathematically with five minutes that they kind of stalled out

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and didn't get there, So we'll take the one and one.

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The split didn't cost us hardly anything last night, but

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it would have been nice to get William and Mary

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and Campbell there. Like I say, they were on course

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to get there with about five left, and then you

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started to see a little bit of you know, misshots,

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a couple of free throws here and there. They all

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count in the end right at and you look back

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to the first half and say, man, why did that

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lay up go? We'd have been there, but we'll take it.

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I still think it was the right handicap. But the

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cal Poly was never in doubt. I mean that first

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score was ten to nothing right out of the shoot

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and I'm like, man, it's like twenty two to nothing.

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All they were in pretty good shape here.

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Speaker 1: I don't think cal Poly ever trailed in the game

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with Hawaii.

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Speaker 2: Last night.

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Speaker 1: They made Hawaii made a couple of runs to tie it.

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I don't think Hawaii ever led that game. Yeah, really

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good performance from cal Poly I had a good night

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three and one. I lost a game. I won a

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game in almost the same fashion that I lost it.

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I got a nice comeback, I guess myself and Brian

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Power willed Little Rock across the finish line in a

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kind of stole one at the end, and then the

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gambling god said, no, you're gonna give that back. With

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UC Santa Barbara, they look like they were gonna go

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to the free throw line to close out the win

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and probably cover three and a half and Rob suddenly

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they find themselves in ot they turned the ball over

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out of a inbound play. They end up in overtime

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and they lose to a red hot cal State Northridgie,

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who just keeps finding ways to win. I also had

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Cal Poly and then Tennessee State pulled away. So I'm

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ten and one in my last eleven. Like I said,

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I'm over here making up for lost time. Rob was

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on fire November December when I couldn't cash one, So

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I'm just making up for lost time over here. Hopefully

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the two of us can continue to cash tickets for you.

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And it is the officially the weekend Rob, even though

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in my cup here is just water, but it is

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officially the weekend. I already finished the energy drink. We're

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still on peach Mango Bang. It's been the same thing

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all week. But if you go to wager talk dot

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com you will find that we have the double the

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Firepower CVB package. And regardless of who it's been, I

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think we've been pretty successful over the past. You know,

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a few weeks months, we started the week with a

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six and Oho Monday, and that would get you all

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of my plays, all of Rob's plays for the entire weekend,

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huge slate of games on Saturday, but a pretty intriguing

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slate tonight. There's a you know I I love like

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every time every once in a while I'll pop into

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like a competitors show and they'll hear something like, well

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not much, you know, not much on the slate today,

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or it's a small slate.

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Speaker 2: First of all, this is a great slate.

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Speaker 1: I heard one yesterday like you know this is there's

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really nothing on this like basically almost like slandering the

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mid major Thursday board, and it's like, what else do

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you want?

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Speaker 2: As it better?

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Speaker 1: That's where a lot of your edges are gonna be.

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And I think that's the case tonight because because outside

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of a couple of big games, you know, we've got

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the Mac and play, there's the Ivy League, and that's

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what we're gonna get going here. But we will start

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with what I consider to be the biggest game tonight,

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and that is a big time matchup in the Atlantic ten.

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Saint Louis VCU. We have now is essentially a battle

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for first place. So Saint Louis kind of did the unthinkable.

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Speaker 2: Earlier in the week.

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Speaker 1: I know there was people that were like, oh, you know, Rhode,

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I like that, that's a tough spot for them on

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the road at Rhode Island. Rob, I gotta be honest,

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that was shocking to me. I don't think that Rhode

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Island team is any good. I don't think there's even

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with their sort of bigger crowd, one of the biggest

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crowds they've had in a while. I don't know that

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the Ryan Center has much atmosphere. And Saint Louis got

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beat I mean, they just got beaten that game, and

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Saint Louis Dayton game that was almost a month ago.

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At this point, Saint Louis played as lights out of

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a game as they could have played against Dayton on

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Friday night on this court, which is where this game

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will be tonight. Do you think they started to play

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with their food a little bit for lack of a

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better sort of term, against some of these really really

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bad Atlantic Ten teams, because, make no mistake about it,

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the bottom of the A ten right now, the Loyola Chicago's,

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the Lasals are bad basketball teams. And do you think

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they got lulled to sleep almost by a Rhode Island

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team that maybe is a little bit better and just

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took an advantage of an opportunity with maybe Saint Louis

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looking ahead to this game a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna throw the numbers out the window for

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this handicap adam. I mean, generally, I'll come on here

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and you know, try and find matchup analytic edges in

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the game. But it really doesn't matter what I think

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about what or not Saint Louis was playing with their food,

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so to speak. But it does matter what the players

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and the coach think, and I'm going to tell you

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that they were because here we go. Dion Brown, after

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that loss to Rhode Island, Saint Louis guard for those

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who don't know. Dion Brown came out and said, I

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think it's a bit of complacency. We think we're a

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good team, and Tuesdays showed that we're not as good

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as we thought. We came out of that what we

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come out of that mindset, Hey, we're going to win

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this game. It takes away from our preparation. He's telling

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you that, you know what, they thought they were too

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good for the league and they could just roll the

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balls out. But it continues because head coach Josh Shurtz

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said the same thing. It's hard when you win eighteen

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games in a row to maybe maintain the humility and

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hunger it takes to play your best. Maybe this is

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what we needed to reset ourselves and get back to

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the team we've been most of the season. Read into

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it whatever you want to read into it. I think

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that shirts who continued on to say, I should add

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right here, Adam. What he continued on to say was

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we've been playing with fire the last three or four

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games in terms of our execution, physicality, and competitiveness. The

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things that were our superpowers have been our effort and

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toughness and our execution and our connectedness now you make

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the decision to yourself. Does Saint Louis take that loss

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and come out breathing fire here in this game, or

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are they in a lull right now where VCU is

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going the other direction and maybe can take advantage of

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head coach Martelli actually thinks that his team is in

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way better shape. I don't know that I can argue

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with him. The only thing I could argue with Martelli

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with and he basically focuses Adam on their defense. He says,

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our defense is way better than it was the first

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time we played Saint Louis. Took some time to get

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used to the system, to get used to each other,

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but we're way better now. I would say that you

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have to you can take that seriously because the coach

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said it. But the competition in the at the A

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ten level is not all Saint Louis, right, So you're

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beating a bunch of teams, You're playing good defense against

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a bunch of teams, but they're not Saint Louis and

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they're not a fired up Saint Louis on their home floor.

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So this is a test and a half for BCU.

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I think you could make a really good situational case

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either way, My case to be made would be Saint Louis.

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I think that they'll bounce back here. I just think

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that they're the better team. I think they're they're still

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even though VC is playing better defense, I think Saint

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Louis is the better defense. And one thing that VCU

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doesn't do still Adam for the most part, like they

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did in the past, is forced turnovers. Like, if you're

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going to beat Saint Louis, take some possessions away from them.

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Don't let them because they're such a good shooting team,

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you really don't want them to take shots. You were

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in this building a couple fridays ago, you know what

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it's like when they're fired up to play a game,

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which they should be tonight. So line has actually the

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line did budge early on and it's been bet back.

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VCU money has come in within the last hour, hour,

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hour and a half. For me, I'd probably look at

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Saint Louis here. This total is interesting. One sixty one

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and a half up to one sixty three and a

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half and a couple of teams that I think will

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be focused on the defensive end. First time around was

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seventy one sixty two. Saint Louis got the win at VCU.

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VCU didn't shoot it well. They may not shoot it

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well again here, and I'll add this at the end.

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I do worry about VCU if, in fact, there's a

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stretch where Saint Louis goes on a home home floor run,

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let's say a ten oh twelve to two run, And

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is VCU good enough shooting wise to get back in

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the game at that point, especially if Saint Louis is

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motivated tonight. So or me, I'll go with coach Shirts

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who said maybe that loss was a good thing. I

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don't know that I want to lay seven and a

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half because vcus on an ascension right now, but if

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I had to, that's the way I'd look.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a lot of conflicting thoughts here, so

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I'm just gonna get them out and see if we

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can talk ourselves into some sort of pick. First of all,

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Ski knows the deal. He knows you're gonna come with

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quotes for a big game. So yeah, he knows you're

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bringing a coach quote for a big game. And yes,

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I saw Shirts say that as well. Actually was in

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the press conference after the dating game where Shirts you know,

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came and addressed the media. I never go to these,

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by the way, even if I get credentials. Usually I'm

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like hitting the road trying to get to wherever my

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next game is. And it's like, I don't know, I

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mean a media, I guess, but I always feel a

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little bit weird in the press conference because it's like,

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you know, I'm not like writing a piece on it.

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But I went to that one because I knew some

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folks there, and you know that was I mean, if

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you remember after that game, shirts is at the bar

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porn shots. Saint Louis played as good as they've played.

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Maybe also that may have been their best game from

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a just complete They did everything right for forty minutes.

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Dayton never had a chance. BYU's in the chat saying,

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you know this is gonna be kind of a tough building,

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tough atmosphere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's probably right about that.

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Speaker 1: Because I was out waiting to get in shape its

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arena at five point thirty and there was a line

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of students around the building and one the guy who

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was standing next to who I think was just a

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season ticket holder, turned to me and he's like, I

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I've never seen kids line up at this time for

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a game. Right, that was like totally new to them

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to have this like full student section selling out the

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ten thy six hundred seat arena, which is, you know,

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it's a great arena for basketball. But listen, if Saint

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Louis isn't playing good, they're not selling that place out.

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That was a sellout. This will be a sellout. This

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is one verse two in the league now, Rob, I

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love I love rematches for us because we watch a

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lot of life. If you want to figure out who's

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watching these games and who's not, just listen to how

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people talk about some of these rematches. Okay, this game

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we actually gave out as on this show. We took

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Saint Louis in the first meeting. I think it was

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my parlay leg. It was a client play for me.

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That game didn't get close until the end. Saint Louis

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was rolling in that game, and a big reason for

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that was VCU couldn't get couldn't get good shots off,

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and the good shots they were getting were three pointers

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and they weren't and they just weren't falling. They basically

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tried to take everything to the rim and then as

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soon as there was resistance, they'd kick it, they'd kick

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it for a three, and they just didn't make any

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of them.

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Speaker 2: Six for twenty four from three in that game.

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Speaker 1: Now, one thing you could say is, well, that's good

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defense for st for Saint Louis, and that's true. The

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other thing you could say is that's a different game

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if the shots are going in right, Like if VCU

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hits a couple of threes early, it may unlock, you know.

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I felt like Saint Louis was able to just kind

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of pack it in and almost vaited them.

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Speaker 2: In the shooting and three.

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Speaker 1: As soon as VCU made a couple of those, I

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think they cut it to like almost like one, they

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made a run, they got back in it, and then

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Saint Louis closed the game out. So comes to this,

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we flipped the flip the tables. Now we're at Saint Louis.

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Now we're talking about covering a seven and a half

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point spread. It's tough because I think if some of

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those threes go in, you're probably looking at a little

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bit of a different game. But I will go back

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to what you were kind of mentioning, it does feel

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like this could be a like a knockout punch game.

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If Saint Louis comes out and they've been very good

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off a loss. Now they've only lost, this will only

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be the second time, but they've also been pretty good

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off of not.

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Speaker 2: Playing their best ball.

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Speaker 1: If you go back to the Dayton game, I think

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they went maybe on the road to George Washington heading

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into that game, didn't have a great game, came out

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and played a very efficient game at home. If Saint

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Louis plays an a fishing game at home, they're gonna

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win this game. They're probably gonna cover. But that number

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is makes it difficult to bet. So what you could

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do again, maybe you go what maybe you go Saint

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Louis first half. I want to say you recommended that

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for the Dayton game potentially because like it was a

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big spread at home, we didn't really want to lay

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the number and it was like and they came out

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and they were just lights out right off the rip.

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They were up fifteen in like two seconds. So if

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you like Saint Louis, maybe do the first half second

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half thing where you play half unit on the first half.

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Speaker 2: If you win, you take your money.

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Speaker 1: If you lose, you come over the top in the

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second half, because I would be kind of surprised if

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Saint Louis just no shows this game after losing to

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Rhode Island. But Rob, we have seen some of these

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teams that have these big time losing streaks, lose one

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and then lose that game twice.

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Speaker 2: So intriguing game. I just don't see how to get

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involved here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple things really quick here for Saint Louis

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because their non conference resume is not stacked right. The

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best wins are basically wins over Grand Canyon early on

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in Santa Clara by one. Saint Louis doesn't have a

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lot here. NET ranking is nice, but they have to

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continue to resume build because they are who they are.

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I just go back to what Jared Calhoun, head coach

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of Utah State said a couple of games ago, like

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these teams have to win. They have to win by margin.

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A game like this on national TV. You can't flop.

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If in fact, you don't win the Atlanta ten tournament

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and you're Saint Louis, you can still probably get it

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at large. A loss here, Adam, I think could actually

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put Saint louis Is at Large in jeopardy because of

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the weakness of this country. The only thing holding this

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conference afloat as far as ranking is concerned to Saint Louis.

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If Saint Louis wasn't in this league, it would be

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like the eighteenth or nineteenth best league in the in

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the country. So they really it's it's of the utmost

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importance to them. And to your point about first half betting,

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Saint Louis has come multiple occasions here with the with

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that immediate knockout punch. I think was it Saint Bonaventure

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you referred to where your friends were at the bar?

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Speaker 1: God? He yeah, started they were at the bar at

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halftime they thought they Yeah, they were. I was getting

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text Saint Bonnie's money line and then I was getting

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text from the bar. Early second half it was a

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thirty point game. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, They've got that ability to get out quick and

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if Hecu is overwhelmed early, then first half could be

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a really good way to go. But I do I

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think I trust a little bit of Saint Louis here

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in this game to do the right thing off of

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that loss.

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Speaker 1: First of all, thank you for the donation Mansie Man,

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And yeah, we've wondered where you were. And this is

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a bit of sad news, but well, he says, morning

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fella has been away a little bit and didn't want

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to put a damper, but found out my wife has

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breast cancer. Say a prayer, thank you. Well, We're absolutely

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going to keep your wife and your thoughts in our

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thoughts and prayers. I've had multiple family members affected with

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breast cancer. It's terrible thing. And yeah, we'll be we'll

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be thinking about you all weekend. We appreciate you popping

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into the show on a daily basis, appreciate you donating

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to the show. And you know what, I'll talk to Uh,

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we we always look for you know, I don't know

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where where we're donating the donations this month, but it

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seems like this would be the month to donate them

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to breast cancer. So maybe we can talk to the

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powers that be about that. But but I do believe

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now this has been this is this is breast cancer

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Awareness month?

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Speaker 2: Is it not? Rob right? Is it this? I've seen

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some I've seen some teams wear jerseys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen it too.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we're absolutely thinking about you. Sorry to hear that,

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and uh, you know, we we hope she beats it

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pulls through because again that a lot of people do

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beat that, and I've also had family members that have

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beaten breast cancer. So let's uh what we'll say a

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thought and prayer for you. Let's go to Garth. I

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can't believe you brought this game up, but we will

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talk about it. So there is a great If you

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are not following this Twitter account, do yourself a favor

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and go follow the I gotta make sure I say

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it right.

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Speaker 2: The team's left tracker.

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Speaker 1: His handle is champ countdown and every year, as teams

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get mathematically eliminated from being in the NCAA tournament, he

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counts all three hundred and sixty five teams down. So

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that's literally all this account does is as soon as

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a team is eliminated from you know, basically gets knocked

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out of their conference tournament or until they mathematically can't

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make their conference tournament, he counts them down three sixty

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five to one. It's like a great little like niche

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Twitter account. It's it's it's just worth the follow. I

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think it's I think it's great. And the reason I

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bring his account up right now is on Sunday, Rob,

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we had a double elimination from from contenent for the

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NCAA tournament, and that was these two teams, Rider and Canecious.

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Speaker 2: Both lost or I'm sorry Rider. Yeah, Ryder lost.

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Speaker 1: Over the weekend, as did Canisius, And what that meant

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is that both are now ineligible for the MAC tournament.

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So the MAC is not bringing everyone to the conference

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tournament anymore, and Canisius and Rider now both will not

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be going to Atlantic City. So that brings us to

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today's game, Canisius at Rider, a literal meaningless game because

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neither of these teams will be going to Atlantic City

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to play in the MAC tournament. And so Garth says,

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let's talk about the real MAC, the NAAC, which will

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be the MAC no more in a couple months, because

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they have already announced that going into the next season

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they will have a new name.

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Speaker 2: We will have a new name for the MAC conference.

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Speaker 1: But Canisius Rider, he says, Canisius team total under sixty

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six and a half game under this number. Oh went

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under this number in eight of the last ten. But

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I don't know if Ryder can stop them. Well, this

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is like, rob, how do you even really quantit? Like

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this is either gonna be a terrible game that goes

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under or it's gonna be playground basketball because no one

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cares and who even knows, Like what what? How do

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you attack a game with as little meaning as Canesius

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rider tonight.

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Speaker 3: It's a great question, Adam. I don't know that we

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have any evergreen videos in the vault with that subject matter.

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How do you attack a game like this? To Guard's point,

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real quick, he went at it from one side with

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the eight out of ten. And I will say that

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Ryder has allowed less than sixty six and a half

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one time in sixteen conference games. So the other fifteen

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times their opponent got above sixty six and a half.

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So just if that helps out any you know, the

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last time Canacious won a game, this really bothers me,

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the last times won a game.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna bother me to big time rob. But finish

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your point, because because.

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Speaker 3: We came out on a way back in early January,

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and I used Manhattan talking about the road trips from

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you know for Canisius and Niagara, how difficult they are

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to go out on the road. Manhattan I think was

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off the loss and I played in Manhattan, plaid a

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few points, maybe six points, got beat out right by Canisius.

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They haven't won a game since. They've been as bad,

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if not worse than Ryder. I don't know if riders

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last win was the day you were in the gym, but.

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Speaker 2: I remember it. I think they pulled an upset.

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Speaker 1: I think they I think they won one more since

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where they hit like a runner at the buzzer. I

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think it was Saint Peter's. But yeah, they've only won

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I think two Division one games this year.

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Speaker 3: Maybe, yeah, that was like Iona that you were there,

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right and somehow, some way Ryder what And actually, actually

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I can remember talking with you and we thought, well, maybe,

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you know, maybe Ryder could be on a little bit

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of an upswing. Poor economically poor Rider is now going

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to start playing good ball. They did in one more game,

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but they've been terrible ever since. And it's just hard,

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Like you say, when you have no meaning to games,

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you have to get inside the head coaches heads. I

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think it would be nice to talk to both head

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coaches here and just see where they're at with this.

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Is it? You know what, We're not going to the

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mac tournament. These games are meaningless. Roll out the balls

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or is it? This is a winnable game for both

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of us. Let's go try and beat somebody. Put the

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kid's mindset in a positive position. Boy, it's hard at him.

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I would think that they're still trying to win games

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at this point. To Garth's point, holding Canisius to less

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than sixty six and a half has been It's been

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a problem for a rider to hold anybody under sixty

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seven all season long. I don't know why it wouldn't

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continue to be a problem tonight other than Cadisius can't

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score either. But somebody's got to put the ball in

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the in the hoops. So I'm not gonna argue with

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you on this one, Garth, because this one is is

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really difficult call. So we'll hope that you cash this

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ticket with Caniches up and over sixty six and a half.

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Speaker 1: So he he actually likes the under. But I'm gonna

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I'm gonna take a stand here. Yeah, he likes the under.

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I'm gonna take a stand here.

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Speaker 2: I like Ryder.

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Speaker 1: I think Ryder wins this game. It's a meaningless game.

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But I've I've got a sense of the vibes of

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both programs. Like Kevin Badgett seems like an incredibly like, nice,

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positive guy, you know, has has literally paid employees out

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00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,319
of his own pocket just so they could keep their jobs,

479
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:33,759
to keep the program going.

480
00:23:33,799 --> 00:23:35,759
Speaker 2: He like wants to do. He's been there forever.

481
00:23:36,319 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: I think his his first year as head coach was

482
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,160
like maybe the Jason Thompson senior year, like one of

483
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,799
the maybe like right after that, I think right after

484
00:23:44,839 --> 00:23:46,400
the Jason Thompson years, he took over.

485
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,759
Speaker 2: He's been the head coach ever since.

486
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,519
Speaker 1: They were so happy to win that Iona game when

487
00:23:51,519 --> 00:23:54,000
I was there that, like, I just would be really

488
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,960
surprised if they're coming into a home game not like

489
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,720
you know, just motivated to go out and try their

490
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,920
best to win the game. Canisius over the weekend could

491
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,960
have won both of those games. They they came back,

492
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,240
they were tied with Iona with like two minutes left,

493
00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:11,119
took a three that rimmed out and managed to not

494
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,279
only lose the game, but not cover five and a half.

495
00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:15,799
So they had the ball. They had the ball with

496
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,559
two minutes to go plus five and a half, took

497
00:24:18,599 --> 00:24:21,960
a three that like hit iron, hit backboard, rimmed out,

498
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,240
and then lost the game by six.

499
00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:27,839
Speaker 2: Great. I was on Canisius plus five and a half.

500
00:24:28,079 --> 00:24:31,279
Speaker 1: On Sunday, they were up five with like five minutes

501
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,880
to go against Manhattan managed to lose that game. Jim

502
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,960
Christian looks miserable, like pissed off. I think he kicked

503
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,759
Marcus Niblack off the team. Basically, it was just like,

504
00:24:41,799 --> 00:24:44,480
you just don't act like he straight up came out.

505
00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:47,079
You want to talk about quotes, little Matt quote here,

506
00:24:47,319 --> 00:24:50,079
It wasn't even like a it wasn't even like one

507
00:24:50,079 --> 00:24:52,640
of those pr type quotes. Like he was just like,

508
00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:56,559
he just does not do what we expect a student

509
00:24:56,599 --> 00:24:57,200
athlete to do.

510
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 2: So he's gone.

511
00:24:58,279 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 1: Like I kind of think Canisius is a disaster right now.

512
00:25:01,319 --> 00:25:02,680
Now they've got to go all the way down to

513
00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:07,240
Jersey to play meaningless game Central New Jersey. I mean, listen,

514
00:25:08,279 --> 00:25:11,720
nothing would surprise me here but my numbers like Ryder,

515
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:18,039
and I think the situation is good for a Rider victory.

516
00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:22,200
Like I'm pretty comfortable saying I like Rider pick. I

517
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,920
think I have to read you. I have to just

518
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,359
double check my calculation. I think I'm at like three

519
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,559
and a half Rider. So again, bad basketball team, meaningless game.

520
00:25:30,839 --> 00:25:33,920
I wouldn't touch Kenesis. It's a terrible spot for the Grips.

521
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,160
All right, all right, rob Let's stay in the mac.

522
00:25:38,039 --> 00:25:41,920
I've invited BP to join the parlay and see if

523
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,440
he can finish off a perfect week. He filled in

524
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,160
on Monday and he's hit his parlay leg every day.

525
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,319
Speaker 2: So I said, BP, you's.

526
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,319
Speaker 1: Gotta I was like, you gotta, You gotta try to

527
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,480
run the table, try to go five. And now he's like, Trig,

528
00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:56,920
you may like this, you may not, but I like

529
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,240
your Sianna Saints tonight.

530
00:25:58,319 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: And I said all right. He goes.

531
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't even know if we're going to

532
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,799
talk about it in a morning wager because we're doing

533
00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:03,799
some NBA stuff today.

534
00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 2: I said, don't worry.

535
00:26:04,759 --> 00:26:08,799
Speaker 1: I said, I will let I will lay out what

536
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,400
I think is going to happen in this game. I'll

537
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,519
give your pickout and I'll let Rob, you know, sort

538
00:26:14,519 --> 00:26:17,000
of agree or disagree with me, because I can't really

539
00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:20,680
pick a side here, okay. And the reason is so

540
00:26:20,839 --> 00:26:22,920
Brian Power is going to come into the parlay with

541
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,160
Cianna plus three and a half. That is what he

542
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:30,960
wants on the parlay, and I see merit to both sides.

543
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,279
I think the number is spot on. So you want

544
00:26:34,279 --> 00:26:36,440
to talk about Rob, you know, I think you're going

545
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,359
to hear people try to talk about this game today

546
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,200
and they're going to be like, oh, it was a

547
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,559
close game. First game was tight, close game, whatever. This

548
00:26:44,599 --> 00:26:46,440
is what I'm talking about. If you watch the first game,

549
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,160
you would know that Sienna was down nineteen, that they

550
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,279
got they were getting blown out of their own arena

551
00:26:51,559 --> 00:26:54,079
in front of like six thousand that MVP arena on

552
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,359
a Friday night, getting embarrassed down sixteen at half, and

553
00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:01,440
essentially see Na kind of got a few stops and

554
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,480
the way they kind of like snuck back into the game.

555
00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:08,359
They started to press a little bit, got a rebound

556
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,200
or two, and suddenly kind of snuck back into the

557
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,400
game though, to the point where Gavin Doti went to

558
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,400
the foul line fouled on a three down three like

559
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,400
he had a chance to tie that game at the end,

560
00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:20,640
and he missed the free throw. Sianna ends up losing

561
00:27:20,839 --> 00:27:23,799
sixty three to fifty nine. The problem here for Sienna

562
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,720
is Joe Gallo is going to play a zone that

563
00:27:26,759 --> 00:27:29,960
Sienna has a very very difficult time beating. Why does

564
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,200
Sianna have a difficult time beating the zone? They really

565
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,680
don't have three point shooters this year and their one

566
00:27:34,759 --> 00:27:35,519
three point shooter.

567
00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 2: Brendan Coyle is having a bad season. He's just not himself.

568
00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: If this was Brendan Coyle from two years ago, you'd

569
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,440
probably be fine. But Brendan Coyle right now is just

570
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,680
not consistent enough from three robin the first meeting Sienna,

571
00:27:48,759 --> 00:27:50,519
not only could they not make a three, they couldn't

572
00:27:50,519 --> 00:27:53,440
even get one off. I mean, Merrimack was like they

573
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,279
couldn't even get a good look. They were four for

574
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,039
sixteen from three in that game. And Sianna this year

575
00:27:58,079 --> 00:28:01,359
is three hundred and thirty six nationally from three. Now,

576
00:28:01,839 --> 00:28:04,720
why might Sianna stay in this game? What could help

577
00:28:04,759 --> 00:28:07,640
Brian powers? Cause here on Sianna plus three and a half,

578
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,440
they defend well and they have size, and one thing

579
00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:13,920
Merrimack does not do well is rebound the basketball. But

580
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,039
it's also because they play this zone. It's very random,

581
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,960
and Gallo prioritizes being near the rim more.

582
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: He almost would rather cut off.

583
00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: He'd almost rather dig in on defense and play out

584
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,839
the second possession then like get all out of sorts

585
00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:28,799
going for a rebound and.

586
00:28:28,759 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 2: Give up, but like an easy put back.

587
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,559
Speaker 1: So Sianna's gonna win the rebounding edge they did in

588
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:35,599
the first meeting, But it doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna

589
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,039
have an easy shot that that Merrimack will just dig

590
00:28:38,079 --> 00:28:41,960
back in on their zone. So Sianna can play defense,

591
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,880
they can get stops, then they could steal a game

592
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,680
that's similar to the first game in the low sixties.

593
00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:52,480
If it's not in the low sixties, I'd be surprised

594
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,160
if they win this game. But Rob, does that talk

595
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,480
you into or out of a total by any chance.

596
00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:02,559
Speaker 3: The way to play the total for me would be under.

597
00:29:04,599 --> 00:29:07,160
It sets up to me the same as you know.

598
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,519
We've talked a lot about this Adams second Meeting for

599
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,880
certain styles just seemed to create the same exact type

600
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,920
of game for the most part. When we talked about

601
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,279
it yesday, Campbell and William and Mary played out that way.

602
00:29:20,279 --> 00:29:22,960
It was the same exact game, just missed the total

603
00:29:23,079 --> 00:29:25,680
priced a little bit too high for us to get there.

604
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:31,319
But where Merrimac's really good defensively when you go through numbers,

605
00:29:31,359 --> 00:29:36,200
they're number eight in the country in second chance points allowed.

606
00:29:36,279 --> 00:29:39,720
So Siena with size, it's going to be difficult because

607
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,400
you don't get a lot of second chance points against

608
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:46,039
these guys. Merrimac as far as fast break points allowed

609
00:29:46,119 --> 00:29:48,920
inside the top ten as well. So the transition defense

610
00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:50,839
is really good. So you got to make shots and

611
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,680
to your point first time around. And Gavin Dotie not

612
00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:56,799
only with the free throws, but as I come through

613
00:29:56,839 --> 00:29:59,359
the box score was a bad day overall for him.

614
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:02,519
Speaker 1: Can I tell you why that is and why it

615
00:30:02,599 --> 00:30:05,519
might be again, Gavin Doty's not really a three He's

616
00:30:05,519 --> 00:30:08,720
not really a competent three point shooter. Gavindti wants to

617
00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:11,240
put his head down, take you off the dribble, work

618
00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:13,400
his way into the paint, maybe get something mid range,

619
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,799
get to the hoop, and Merrimack just does not let

620
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:16,240
you do that.

621
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: They just don't yet.

622
00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:20,759
Speaker 3: Two of ten indicates in that game Gavin Doty was

623
00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:23,079
to go into the rim for two point shots or

624
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,359
mid range shots. Didn't work there, so's it's hard to

625
00:30:26,359 --> 00:30:28,839
see unless Sienna goes on the road and knocks down

626
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,440
a bunch of shots. This total changing any from the

627
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:37,240
one twenty two. You know in actuality, Adam, the points

628
00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:41,000
per possession in that game weren't really bad. One point

629
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,039
one six for Merrimack, one point nine for Sienna. I mean,

630
00:30:44,039 --> 00:30:46,640
it's not great but it's not horrendous either. It's just

631
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,000
the lack of possessions and the lack of free throws.

632
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,599
Even in a game that ended sixty three to fifty

633
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,839
nine that was close, as you indicated, extension couldn't help

634
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,960
this game get beyond one twenty two. So here we're stare,

635
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,880
I think this game's been bet up. Just let me

636
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,400
check the number really fast here. This game's been bet

637
00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:08,319
up to one, from one thirty and a half to

638
00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:10,599
one thirty two and a half. And I just feel like,

639
00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:16,160
whoever it is who gets to these things early when

640
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,240
they see numbers in this range, they just feel like

641
00:31:19,759 --> 00:31:21,480
and I can't say that I'm not of the same

642
00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:23,480
opinion that you can get to one thirty and a

643
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:25,759
half by mistake. So let's just bet it over for

644
00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:28,920
the thrill of betting it over. But you're asking this

645
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,039
game to go sixty seven sixty six, and if you

646
00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:33,200
use them, if you use the points spread here, you're

647
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,359
actually asking this game to go sixty nine sixty five

648
00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:40,960
to be sixty nine sixty four to being over. I'm

649
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,400
not so sure anybody gets close to seventy here, So

650
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,240
for me, I'd probably say under. And of course We're

651
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,640
not going to root against your cim sinks and we're

652
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,440
not going to go against Brian Power at all. End

653
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,680
of story. After Little Rock, you know, the guy who

654
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,480
won the game for Little Rock last night was the

655
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,599
guy whose name you were trying to pronounce.

656
00:31:58,279 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: Yesterdayeh got Keck going going coast to coast like he's

657
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,680
at O'Bannon rob to win the game or tyas Edney

658
00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:09,640
tyas hed. He was like the famous y aaah, that's right, Yeah,

659
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:10,480
that was incredible.

660
00:32:10,519 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: What a finish to that game.

661
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,759
Speaker 1: I thought, here, I am thinking like I'm going to

662
00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:15,559
need a deuce on the other end to cover two

663
00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:18,039
and a half. They get like a steal steel he's

664
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,799
he's off to the races and he scores at the

665
00:32:19,799 --> 00:32:21,119
buzzer and incredible finish.

666
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:21,839
Speaker 2: Uh.

667
00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: It's kind of so my buddy Aaron Kidd texting me

668
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,640
I'm on a good run right now. I mean, if

669
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,319
we've talked about it on the show, you can see

670
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:29,799
like and he he was like, you could tell me

671
00:32:29,799 --> 00:32:31,200
to bet Japan in World War Two.

672
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,039
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm betting it at this point. That's kind

673
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:35,079
of how that's kind of how I feel about VP

674
00:32:35,319 --> 00:32:35,720
right now.

675
00:32:36,039 --> 00:32:38,559
Speaker 1: Who am I to talk Brian power off the Sianna Saints.

676
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,359
He's he's he's just coming here and giving out nothing

677
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,759
but winners. So yeah, I have I'm not going to

678
00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:46,880
push back at that at all. What I will say though,

679
00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:48,839
to to I guess add some more fuel to the

680
00:32:48,839 --> 00:32:52,720
fire on a potential under that first game, Ciana scored

681
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,839
twenty two points in the first half. We I mean, Merrimack,

682
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,839
just to one more number for you. They're seventeenth nationally

683
00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:02,720
in block shots. They contest everything. It's why when they

684
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,759
give up a rebound, it's not the end of the

685
00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:08,680
world because Gallo's zone never they never get out of position.

686
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,519
So it's like if a ball because again, when you're

687
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:13,400
talking about a zone, rebounding is going to be a

688
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,119
little bit random.

689
00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:16,079
Speaker 2: If you're giving up jumpers, you never know where the

690
00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:16,720
ball is going to go.

691
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,039
Speaker 1: But they do such a good job at staying in

692
00:33:19,079 --> 00:33:22,160
their position that they're almost not even like, oh, you

693
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,559
got the rebound, no problem, We'll just zone you again

694
00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:26,799
for another twenty seconds.

695
00:33:26,839 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: Fine, right, And then it's like.

696
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: Sianna got back in that game when they were down,

697
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,319
they started to press a little bit.

698
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: Merrimack got a little out.

699
00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: Of sorts, but like, if this is a close game,

700
00:33:36,079 --> 00:33:38,960
Merrimack doesn't turn the ball over, Kavere Kennedy might win

701
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:40,519
Player of the Year in the MAC. I mean, he's

702
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:43,160
a freshman, freshman point guard for Merrimack. He very well

703
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,079
wayman may win MAC Player of the Year. I can't

704
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,759
understand why that total would be bet up unless it's

705
00:33:49,799 --> 00:33:51,720
like you're saying, people just see a number, say oh

706
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,920
that's a little low, let me bet it up. But

707
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,279
I'll be really surprised if this is anything other than

708
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,440
I think you're gonna get like your sixty four sixty

709
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,799
one type final again in this game.

710
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,519
Speaker 2: Hard to believe it's anything other than that.

711
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 1: God, I'm out of breath here, Rob, it's only half

712
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,880
We're only halfway into the show. If I didn't uh

713
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,039
and again one more time, we'll we'll, we'll recap it

714
00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:18,559
at the end, as we always do. But Brian Power

715
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,320
is going for a perfect five and zero on the

716
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,559
show this week with his parlay leg He is on

717
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:26,840
Sienna Plus the three and a half, and I believe,

718
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,360
I do believe it's still there.

719
00:34:28,559 --> 00:34:31,159
Speaker 2: I don't. I haven't looked since we got on the show.

720
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:33,920
But we'll confirm that when we get closer to the

721
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:36,639
end of the show. All right, let's head to the chat.

722
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: Still a lot more to talk about again, Mansy, appreciate

723
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,719
the donations and yeah, we'll we'll keep your wife in

724
00:34:44,039 --> 00:34:47,840
our thoughts and prayers this weekend. Let's see what we

725
00:34:48,039 --> 00:34:52,440
what else we got super chats are starred. Joe Lane

726
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,840
says it is three and a half. Yeah, I don't

727
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,039
expect that to move that. That's exactly what I think

728
00:34:56,079 --> 00:34:59,920
it's gonna be worth noting Sianna was a five and

729
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:04,400
half point favorite in the first meeting at MVP Arena.

730
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,440
Merrimack is a pretty big dog in that meeting. So

731
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:08,880
just you want to you want to talk about where

732
00:35:09,039 --> 00:35:12,039
they they've come from. You know, I do think the

733
00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:14,519
books are are really giving the respect to Merrimack that

734
00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:16,559
they kind of deserve at this point, and I think

735
00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:21,760
that's probably why the number is correct. All right, let's

736
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,960
talk about the final unbeaten rob There's one undefeated team.

737
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,639
Speaker 2: Left in college basketball.

738
00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:31,519
Speaker 1: They play on national TV tonight, and so let's head

739
00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:33,320
to the other Mac, the Mac that will be keeping

740
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,000
their name after this year, of course, Brian Powers Mac

741
00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:42,719
and that's the the mid American Conference. And that's, of course,

742
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,440
Miami of Ohio, who has still not lost a basketball

743
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,760
game despite everyone thinking this game is the game. That's

744
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,119
what everyone said earlier this week, all the all the sharps,

745
00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:53,159
love you mass Robb.

746
00:35:53,199 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: They said, this game is the game.

747
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,519
Speaker 1: I've been hearing it all season though in Mac play,

748
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,239
and yet here we are, Miami of Ohio continue to

749
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,880
win games. They said it in the first meeting between

750
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,159
these two teams, Rob that Bowling Green was going to

751
00:36:05,199 --> 00:36:07,440
be the team to beat them. Miami of Ohio wiped

752
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,840
the floor of them at the Stro Arena. Now they're

753
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,719
at home. Millet Hall's probably sold out again tonight. They've

754
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,920
been getting nine thousand plus for Miami of Ohio home

755
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,199
games eight and a half. But I think you had

756
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,000
you either had the total in the first one or

757
00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:22,679
this is the one.

758
00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: We got nipped on by like a half point.

759
00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:26,679
Speaker 1: I'm trying to go off memory, but we might have

760
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,039
got nipped on a missed file shot in this one

761
00:36:29,079 --> 00:36:32,000
I can't remember, or this one sored over. But you've

762
00:36:32,039 --> 00:36:34,840
been pretty good on Miami of Ohio total. So talk

763
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,960
to me, Miami of Ohio, Bowling Green. How do you

764
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:37,719
see this one going.

765
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a Miami of Ohio total. I'm trying

766
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:42,320
to remember if it was Bowling Green or not. A

767
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:48,159
Peter Sooter went to the line. They actually iced him.

768
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,079
It was a two shot bow and he made the

769
00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:55,079
first other coach iced him. He came back. Of course,

770
00:36:55,159 --> 00:36:57,760
the announcer compliments on how good of a free tow

771
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,719
shooter he was. Didn't work and we fell a half

772
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,559
a poor short because that free throw bricked in that

773
00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:05,679
particular game. You just talked about a game where.

774
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: Seeah, I just got it. That was that.

775
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: That was not that game beat But they dropped ninety

776
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,320
three on Bowling Green in the first meeting, blew them out.

777
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,599
Speaker 3: But yeah, and and you just talked about Merrimack Siena

778
00:37:18,159 --> 00:37:22,920
being a absolute route at halftime, so is this Miami

779
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,079
OL was up fifty four to twenty eight at halftime

780
00:37:26,199 --> 00:37:29,880
of this game in Bowling Green plus twenty six at

781
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,719
the half and kind of came out of the locker

782
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,599
room for the second half nonchalant, only scored nine points

783
00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:39,840
in the first ten minutes of the second half. Bowling

784
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,920
Green came back, came back. They beat Miami O fifty

785
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,800
five to thirty nine. Second half to make it a

786
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,079
ten point deficit, a lot closer than what the game

787
00:37:48,159 --> 00:37:52,000
really was. If Miami of Ohio had stayed pedal to

788
00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:56,519
the floor after the nine point first ten minutes, they

789
00:37:56,599 --> 00:37:58,840
kind of woke up and realized, wait a minute, now

790
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,679
we have to finish this thing off, and they scored

791
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,760
at will. A couple of things here on total Miami

792
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:11,679
of Ohio team total fourteen games in matt play, twelve

793
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,960
and two over eighty points. Which is their number tonight.

794
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,880
I think it's eighty eighty and a half somewhere right

795
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,239
in that range, so they need eighty one. They've done

796
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,639
that twelve or fourteen times so far this year, so

797
00:38:24,679 --> 00:38:26,719
it's not allowed to ask of them to get to

798
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:31,039
that number. Obviously, ninety three the first time against Bowling Green,

799
00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:34,119
and the shooting was sensational in that game for Miami O,

800
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,920
both from two point range, three point range, whatever. Bowling

801
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,719
Green had a pretty good second half in that one.

802
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,559
A couple of things here that I'll get to where

803
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,079
Bowling Green is concerned, if you're thinking of full game

804
00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:53,159
total or if you're thinking of Bowling Green and Todd

805
00:38:53,199 --> 00:38:56,559
Simon had I think is a was he former Southern Utah.

806
00:38:57,039 --> 00:38:58,840
Todd Simon, he was somewhere out.

807
00:38:58,639 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: West believe believe it was southern Utah or like a

808
00:39:01,559 --> 00:39:03,920
year or two, right, and then he got the job

809
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,559
pretty quickly.

810
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember him out west and he had some

811
00:39:08,639 --> 00:39:10,840
fast paced team or a fast paced team out there.

812
00:39:11,079 --> 00:39:14,840
But Todd Simon made a comment about his team, his

813
00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:19,559
group of main shooters, and called them very, very streaky

814
00:39:19,639 --> 00:39:23,440
as a group, not just singling out one guy being streaky,

815
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,159
but saying we're streaky as a group. Really good Saturday,

816
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,519
not so good Tuesday. It's been that way most of

817
00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:31,320
the year. We tend to run hot and cold as

818
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,840
a group. That's hard to handicap. That's really hard to

819
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,119
handicap whether or not multiple shooters that are expected to

820
00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:42,159
score for Bowling Green are going to be hot or

821
00:39:42,159 --> 00:39:45,440
cold here tonight at Miamio. Now, Miamio hasn't been the

822
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,880
stingiest of defenses, so I would generally lean toward Bowling

823
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:54,480
Green making some shots here tonight. But this team just

824
00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:58,199
seems to be what head coach Travis Steele said, They

825
00:39:58,199 --> 00:40:01,519
are unflappable. Like Miami went to U Mass, no big deal.

826
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,599
They were never really in trouble in that game, in

827
00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:07,800
a game that folks thought they could lose because of

828
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,800
the first time around. So for me here, Adam, this

829
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,280
number's been bit down. There's a lot of Bowling Green

830
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,960
money out there right right away. Eight and a half

831
00:40:16,039 --> 00:40:18,400
down to eight, I see seven and a half. So

832
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,559
you've got a lot of underdog play with the total

833
00:40:20,639 --> 00:40:22,800
going up a little bit, fifty two up to fifty

834
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,639
three and a half. Where Miami of Ohio was concerned,

835
00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:28,440
I generally only look at them one way because again,

836
00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:32,639
since ski Profit wanted to jump in and tag me

837
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,440
as a quote guy, I will again tag him as

838
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,719
a guy who says, if I can't trust you to

839
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,800
get stops, I can't lay these types of points with you,

840
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,440
this type of points with you, and laying eight with

841
00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:48,079
a team that doesn't necessarily get stops, even against an

842
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:54,000
opponent that's on the road, that has streaky shooting qualities

843
00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:56,239
to them, it's hard to do. So I would rather

844
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,079
trust Miami of Ohio here to get over the eighty

845
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:02,119
and a half points. Done it twelve or fourteen times.

846
00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:04,280
What's to say Bowling Green's gonna stop them from doing

847
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,599
it here? The pace should be there, Miamio. Of course,

848
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:10,239
the top pace team, fastest paced team in the league,

849
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,679
Bowling Green right there. I think they're like six or something.

850
00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:17,599
It's generally a league where a lot of these teams

851
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:20,320
are high tempo. So for me, i'd look at it

852
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,559
that way. If you want to include Bowling Green in

853
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:26,440
a full game total, I could see it, but I

854
00:41:26,559 --> 00:41:29,679
just can't trust it, basically off of what Todd Simon says,

855
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,400
I've got a group of guys that go hot and

856
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:32,039
cold together.

857
00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know, I was just trying to quickly

858
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,440
find the first meeting. I just saw the score of it.

859
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,159
It was ninety three eighty three, so one seventy six.

860
00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:46,400
And this is one of those where kind of hard

861
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,199
to believe that there's a twenty point difference in this game.

862
00:41:49,639 --> 00:41:51,880
And the reason I think that that's even more so

863
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,440
the case after listening to you, listening to you talk

864
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,440
about it, and just kind of looking at, you know,

865
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,719
back to the first meeting is Bowling Green. So a

866
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,000
couple things with Bowling Green. One for me, I always

867
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,000
thought their strength was on the defensive end. They're very physical,

868
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,679
they're very aggressive, but do you know how you can

869
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,400
pretty much neutralize aggressive defense space the floor like Miami

870
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,280
of Ohio does their floor spacing as good as is

871
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,159
as good as any team in the country, and you

872
00:42:19,159 --> 00:42:23,360
could totally neutralize a physical aggressive defense by just simply

873
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,199
spacing the floor and doing it as good as Miami

874
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,000
of Ohio spaces the floor ninety two point three points

875
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,320
per game, second in the country. Fifty three point five

876
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,159
percent from the field, that's first in the country. Forty

877
00:42:34,199 --> 00:42:36,480
point two percent from three that's fourth in the country. Now,

878
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,920
where you've got a little bit of a case or

879
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,000
the full game over rob but Bowling Green actually puts

880
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,280
the ball in the basket. They're not bad offensively, I

881
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,719
mean number like, they're not gonna They're not gonna go

882
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,679
out and hit a bunch of shots from the perimeter.

883
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: But what I do think one.

884
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 1: Of the areas that you maybe can beat Miami of

885
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,639
Ohio is at the rim. We saw UMass kind of

886
00:42:56,639 --> 00:42:58,840
do it in both meetings have some success getting to

887
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,519
the rim. You know, Bowling Green forty eight point one

888
00:43:02,599 --> 00:43:05,599
percent from the field. That's that's a top forty, top

889
00:43:05,679 --> 00:43:09,880
fifty mark nationally. And you know, Bowling Green's moo is

890
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,400
not to jack up a bunch of threes. So where

891
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,519
the physical defense might not totally work against a team

892
00:43:16,519 --> 00:43:18,440
like Miami of Ohio that's going to spread you out

893
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,519
and do it with the precision that Miami of Ohio

894
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,480
has been doing it to teams that like the you know,

895
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,800
being able to will yourself to the rim, win the

896
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,000
one on one battles, take guys off to the dribble,

897
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:33,559
just sort of be You know, that toughness can show

898
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:35,639
up on the offensive end, and I do think that

899
00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:38,000
it shows up in the form of points for Bowling Green.

900
00:43:38,119 --> 00:43:40,360
So I want no part of Bowling Green as an

901
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,239
underdog here. I just think there's too many ways that

902
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,440
can it can get quickly out of hand. But I

903
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,719
think I would include them in that over. I like

904
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,920
the full game over. I actually like that quite a bit.

905
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,239
I think you're gonna get I mean, you're talking about

906
00:43:54,519 --> 00:43:57,960
one seventy six in the first meeting, and here you

907
00:43:58,039 --> 00:43:59,559
just need to get to mid one fifties.

908
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: So I kind of like that full game over. Rob.

909
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,679
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you the floor if you want

910
00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:09,599
to have. First of all, well have we have we

911
00:44:09,639 --> 00:44:11,840
talked about your parlay leger not? Because if we haven't,

912
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:12,599
I'll go to mind.

913
00:44:12,639 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 2: It's up to you. We have not.

914
00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:17,039
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to yours because I still am

915
00:44:17,079 --> 00:44:19,239
on the fence with something we've talked about already.

916
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,159
Speaker 2: So let's let's go to yours. You've got the floor.

917
00:44:21,199 --> 00:44:22,559
What game are we looking at?

918
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:23,039
Speaker 3: All right?

919
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 4: As I often do tell the chat here those those

920
00:44:29,559 --> 00:44:33,480
viewing live, I often say, I'm torn between two, and here,

921
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,119
I'm going to give you the two I'm torn between,

922
00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:36,519
and then I'll give you the one I'm gonna go with.

923
00:44:37,039 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 3: I really like Akron. First game of the night against

924
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,719
ball State, number is large, fourteen and a half large.

925
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:43,440
For a reason.

926
00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:47,039
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, do the do the other one?

927
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 3: Do the other game?

928
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, do the other one?

929
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,599
Speaker 1: Because were you going to make a case for Akron

930
00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:56,440
just to destroy Ball State? I was, yeah, okay, so

931
00:44:57,199 --> 00:44:59,599
well I'm you know, let me do this. Let's just

932
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:01,639
do this right now. You brought it up. I'm gonna

933
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,400
let you because you have two that you like. I

934
00:45:04,519 --> 00:45:07,400
was gonna use Akron to just absolutely maul ball State.

935
00:45:07,519 --> 00:45:09,159
So but I want you to set it up because

936
00:45:09,199 --> 00:45:11,159
you were talking about it. So Akron ball State. Let's

937
00:45:11,199 --> 00:45:12,639
go to that game, all.

938
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 3: Right, So let's talk about it really quick. Here, a

939
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,880
couple of things with Akron again, I talked about resumes

940
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:26,440
early unfortunately, or tournament resumes earlier for these mid major

941
00:45:26,519 --> 00:45:30,760
teams that are really really good but probably can't find

942
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:35,239
their way into the NCAA tournament because they just haven't

943
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,639
beaten anybody non conference of note. And what made it

944
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:44,400
worse for Akron was the weekend where the MAC played

945
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,800
the Sun Belt and they went down to Troy and

946
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,239
got murdered. And so for Akron, your chances of doing

947
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:56,760
anything are slim and none unless you win the MAC tournament. However,

948
00:45:57,119 --> 00:45:59,960
first place is still in their sights here the number

949
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:04,239
one seed. Overall, Akron's been tremendous. They've been the best

950
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,320
defensive team in the league. They're as good an offense

951
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,400
as you can find in this league, probably outside of Miamio.

952
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,800
They played Miami O once. It was seventy six to

953
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,199
seventy three. A couple of things I really like here,

954
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,039
Number one ball state. Let's get to the first time around.

955
00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:21,079
It was eighty seven to seventy seven Akron. They win

956
00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:23,639
by ten the first time on ball on their own

957
00:46:23,639 --> 00:46:27,239
home floor. It was a while ago, January thirteenth, about

958
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:32,079
a month ago. Akron kind of played around the last

959
00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:35,719
ten minutes of the game, they were up by nineteen points.

960
00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:39,079
Sort of let off the gas, et cetera, et cetera.

961
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,039
But here they go on the road with the chance

962
00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:43,519
to get into a tie first place if Miami should

963
00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:46,480
lose ball State. I think this is as much of

964
00:46:46,519 --> 00:46:48,920
a fade of ball State as it is a play

965
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,599
on Akron, and I like both ends of that play.

966
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:56,280
Acron fade ball State. They're so slow and so methodical

967
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:02,840
and so poor shooting the basketball that to me, this

968
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,639
feels like a game where Akron gets out on top

969
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,480
ball State doesn't find a way to get back into

970
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:13,480
it because the first time around, it's what Akron let happen.

971
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,559
I don't think they're gonna let it happen this time.

972
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:17,480
I think they if they get up by nineteen with

973
00:47:17,559 --> 00:47:20,119
ten minutes left in the game, they're gonna remember what happened.

974
00:47:20,559 --> 00:47:23,440
Ball State tried to come back, got kind of close,

975
00:47:24,039 --> 00:47:27,119
and it won't happen this time. They're a terrific shooting

976
00:47:27,159 --> 00:47:31,000
team Achron for what it's worth. And on the defensive end,

977
00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:33,199
like I said, I think they're number one defensive efficiency

978
00:47:33,199 --> 00:47:35,480
team inside the MAC. So it's gonna be hard for

979
00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:37,719
ball State, a team that goes into Snail's pace doesn't

980
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,039
know anything. But the one thing I was going to

981
00:47:42,119 --> 00:47:44,639
lean toward Akron team total here, Adam. The one thing

982
00:47:44,679 --> 00:47:48,239
that held me back was ball State is so slow

983
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,519
that they've only allowed two teams all season long inside

984
00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:54,599
the MAC to get over eighty points. One of them

985
00:47:54,679 --> 00:47:57,280
was Akron. Akron found a way to get eighty seven

986
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,320
against these guys. So for me, I see full blowout

987
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,800
here against fall State. I think they get behind early,

988
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,519
don't get back in it this time. That was gonna be.

989
00:48:08,039 --> 00:48:09,760
It won't be my parlay leg, but I'm going to

990
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,199
turn it over to you so you can further that

991
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,480
case and we can use it as an end of

992
00:48:14,519 --> 00:48:15,079
our parlay.

993
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 2: You know, I just figured you had two You had

994
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:19,400
two games.

995
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: You like, this is bias, like im he says, to

996
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,199
hit you with the Kanye Listen.

997
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 2: That's how you know.

998
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,079
Speaker 1: We just do not script this show, like we're just

999
00:48:26,119 --> 00:48:28,280
doing this off the top of the head, on the fly.

1000
00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:30,599
When you still when you brought the Akron game up,

1001
00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:32,599
I said, well, if you've got two that you like

1002
00:48:32,679 --> 00:48:34,800
and one of them's Achron, and I was going to

1003
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,119
use Achron, my might as well. Just use akron and

1004
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:39,480
that way we get a strong opinion from you on

1005
00:48:39,519 --> 00:48:42,599
a on a different game, Mark Lambert says, I'm a

1006
00:48:42,599 --> 00:48:44,039
ball State er. I had got two and a half

1007
00:48:44,159 --> 00:48:47,519
units on acron. Listen, I if you what I'm assuming

1008
00:48:47,559 --> 00:48:49,760
Mark is watching ball State hoops this year, and if

1009
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,000
you watch ball State basketball, I got it for me.

1010
00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:55,719
This is one of the more disappointing teams in the

1011
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,719
in the entire country. And the reason I say that is,

1012
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,360
you know, they got Evan Barnes, who is a guy

1013
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,800
that I really liked when he was at Tarlaton State.

1014
00:49:04,039 --> 00:49:05,159
Speaker 2: He ended up at UTEP.

1015
00:49:05,199 --> 00:49:06,679
Speaker 1: I thought it was a little weird that he like

1016
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,519
transferred from UTEP to ball State. I thought that was

1017
00:49:09,519 --> 00:49:12,000
a great grab for them, like he's been better of late.

1018
00:49:12,039 --> 00:49:16,039
But the overwhelming sort of thing that you come away

1019
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:18,679
with when you watch ball State play basketball is this

1020
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:23,880
offense is just totally incompetent. They're just totally flawed. They

1021
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,679
can't do anything offensively. Three hundred and forty seventh in

1022
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,039
points per game. They score sixty six points per game

1023
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,519
forty one point two percent from the field.

1024
00:49:32,599 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 2: That's that's outside the top three forty.

1025
00:49:35,199 --> 00:49:39,039
Speaker 1: They can't shoot the three, they can't rebound the basketball.

1026
00:49:39,039 --> 00:49:41,159
What's gonna happen in this game when Akron, Akron's a

1027
00:49:41,199 --> 00:49:44,360
top fifty rebounding team, ball State doesn't get any rebounds.

1028
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,960
I mean, there should be so many easy points here

1029
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,800
for Akron, second chance points. Like, yes, ball State will

1030
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,840
dig in a little bit on the on the defensive end,

1031
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,199
they won't turn it over. I guess that's something that

1032
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,000
if you want to put a you know, sort of

1033
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,119
feather in the cap of they take care of the basketball,

1034
00:50:02,199 --> 00:50:04,519
they're gonna slow the game down. So it's almost like

1035
00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:07,920
ball State is gonna hold the ball, say okay, we're

1036
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,039
not gonna give it to you, and we're gonna try

1037
00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:12,559
to keep this to us as few possessions as possible.

1038
00:50:13,079 --> 00:50:16,519
But what we do with those possessions is typically nothing right,

1039
00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:18,760
because that's why we're that's why our field goal percentage

1040
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,639
is as low a of a percentage in the country.

1041
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,639
And Rob, do you think that Akron maybe wants to

1042
00:50:25,519 --> 00:50:27,320
take some teams out in a body bag right now

1043
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,320
because they've got to sit here and listen to Miami

1044
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,079
of Ohio like getting paraded around. I think Akron knows

1045
00:50:33,079 --> 00:50:36,159
they're better than Miami of Ohio. Give Akron another crack

1046
00:50:36,199 --> 00:50:38,599
at Miami of Ohio. See who wins. Brian Power will

1047
00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:40,280
probably be at that game because they'll be at the

1048
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,559
Rocket Arena in Cleveland, Ohio, in a couple of weeks,

1049
00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:46,239
and he always goes to the MAC Tournament. I think

1050
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,519
Akron's gonna be like, I think they've got to be

1051
00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:51,360
a little pissed off, just like in general right now

1052
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,480
because if it, let's put it this way, if they

1053
00:50:53,559 --> 00:50:55,679
win that Miami of Ohio game, no one's talking about

1054
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,280
Miami of Ohio right now. They're probably talking about Akron.

1055
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,440
And you saw them flex a little bit seventeen point

1056
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,639
win last time out against Western Michigan. I'd be shocked

1057
00:51:05,639 --> 00:51:08,360
if it's anything less than that. And so right now

1058
00:51:09,039 --> 00:51:11,159
I'll just throw like I'll even throw the minus won

1059
00:51:11,199 --> 00:51:13,960
twenty juice on this. But Acron minus one twenty or

1060
00:51:14,159 --> 00:51:16,559
Acrid minus fourteen minus one twenty yea, it's a little

1061
00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:18,639
bit of a bad number. I think Akron covers all

1062
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,239
numbers here. This is gonna be a twenty point Achron win.

1063
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,880
And I actually am a little bit kicking myself that

1064
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,440
I didn't just get it out earlier for clients at

1065
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,400
that twelve and a half o JO. Yeah, we talked

1066
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,119
about the first meeting Akron only winning by ten. Rob

1067
00:51:32,199 --> 00:51:34,280
what was They were up pretty big though, and they

1068
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:35,719
kind of let ball State hang around?

1069
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 2: Is that right?

1070
00:51:36,679 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, They're up nineteen with ten minutes left in that game. Yeah,

1071
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,239
and you know, you could see a little bit of

1072
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,920
complacency setting in in that one. Ball State gets back

1073
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,920
into it. Akron really didn't have to do much to

1074
00:51:50,039 --> 00:51:52,639
coast to the victory. But again, if they get up

1075
00:51:52,639 --> 00:51:55,519
by nineteen here and you pointed out all their offensive flows,

1076
00:51:55,639 --> 00:51:58,079
I just don't know how ball State gets behind in

1077
00:51:58,119 --> 00:52:00,760
this one and gets back in to the game or

1078
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,400
underneath the number if in fact, Yeah, my line of

1079
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,079
thinking is if they get ahead, they're gonna remember this

1080
00:52:07,159 --> 00:52:09,159
team crawled back in last time. We're not going to

1081
00:52:09,199 --> 00:52:11,000
allow that this time. We're just gonna finish it off

1082
00:52:11,079 --> 00:52:11,480
right now.

1083
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was early in league play, I think

1084
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,079
maybe before students were back on campus. So I just

1085
00:52:18,119 --> 00:52:20,800
think that it was like, you know, kind you always

1086
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,079
see teams coming out of that Christmas break or like

1087
00:52:23,199 --> 00:52:27,039
early conference play, no students, that that will happen a

1088
00:52:27,039 --> 00:52:29,400
little bit whereas like, I think it's all business right

1089
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,760
now for Akron. So yeah, and by you, I'm with you.

1090
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,400
And Rob made this point already. Akron team totals of

1091
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,800
fine play too. I think that probably gets there as well,

1092
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,320
though I'd prefer to have forty minutes of Akron being

1093
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,039
able to create space and margin, because I do think

1094
00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:46,920
there's a there's probably a twenty to two Akron run

1095
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,719
in this game at some point. I feel like you're

1096
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,320
gonna get like some obnoxious run at some point in

1097
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,719
this game that, even if it's a close game, takes

1098
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,800
this out to like a sixteen to seventeen point lead.

1099
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,639
Speaker 2: All right, Rob Bino, we need one more leg of

1100
00:52:59,679 --> 00:53:01,440
the parlor, bring us home. What are we looking at?

1101
00:53:02,119 --> 00:53:04,039
Speaker 3: All right, let's go down to the big ten. We'll

1102
00:53:04,039 --> 00:53:06,800
give everybody what they want. A Power Conference game tonight,

1103
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:12,039
Indiana at Purdue. I know you often say, just go

1104
00:53:12,079 --> 00:53:16,840
ahead and all the total or the spread and get

1105
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,679
the number here. The variance here is between seventy nine

1106
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,159
and a half and eighty and a half. And the

1107
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:26,719
way I've been involved in so many half points this week, Adam,

1108
00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:30,079
I'm gonna use the consensus number of the thirty or

1109
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:33,480
whatever casinos that we have on odds logic here, the

1110
00:53:33,519 --> 00:53:36,280
consensus number in this game is for the team total

1111
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,719
for produer seventy nine and a half. It's over minus

1112
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,239
one twenty three. So if we want to attach twenty

1113
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,039
five to it, I don't care. There's a lot of

1114
00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:50,320
places with eighty and a half at even money, eighty

1115
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,079
and a half even money. If you don't like to

1116
00:53:53,159 --> 00:53:54,960
lay juice, go ahead and do that. But for me,

1117
00:53:55,039 --> 00:53:58,480
there's been so many hooks involved this week that I'm

1118
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,679
gonna go ahead and lay the twenty five twenty three

1119
00:54:00,679 --> 00:54:02,920
to twenty five cents and play the consensus number, which

1120
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,880
is seventy nine and a half perdue team total over,

1121
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,000
And I'm going to tell you why real quick here.

1122
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:14,599
First off, for Purdue home revenge in Mackie, Indiana beat

1123
00:54:14,639 --> 00:54:17,480
them the first time around seventy two to sixty seven

1124
00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:20,039
was the final in that game. It was not that

1125
00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:23,000
long ago either, just a couple of weeks ago, so

1126
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,480
it's fresh in their memory. And then I just have

1127
00:54:26,559 --> 00:54:29,840
to consider this step down in class here. What Purdue

1128
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,800
just dealt with with Michigan is insane as far as

1129
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,199
trying to defend Purdue is a good defensive team that

1130
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,039
just didn't have answers for every single thing that Michigan

1131
00:54:39,079 --> 00:54:41,400
throws at you, whether it be underneath, at the rim,

1132
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,320
mid range, three pointers by La Cadot, it just didn't matter.

1133
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,039
You can't guard at all. And they found that out

1134
00:54:48,039 --> 00:54:51,920
real quick in that game. They did score points in

1135
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,719
that one against a very tough Michigan defense, but they

1136
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:59,440
couldn't defend them here against Indiana. At this point in time, Adam,

1137
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,199
there's one thing to defend, one player to defend on

1138
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,639
this team, and it's Wilkerson, who's been tremendous for IU.

1139
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,199
But I'm going to run you some numbers for the

1140
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,159
guy who's been his counterpart most of the season, Nick Dorn.

1141
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:20,360
Nick Dorn and head coach DeVries referred to this as

1142
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,920
Dorn being in a slump. But in the month of February,

1143
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,920
he's four for twenty eight shooting the basketball. He's in

1144
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,280
a miserable slump. Do you snap out of it all

1145
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,440
of a sudden in Mackie against Purdue with revenge, This

1146
00:55:32,519 --> 00:55:35,039
game's been bet up. The side has been hit pretty hard,

1147
00:55:35,079 --> 00:55:37,480
from ten and a half to eleven and a half. Now,

1148
00:55:37,639 --> 00:55:40,000
can't say that I disagree because this is one where

1149
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:45,639
Indiana has had a tendency during the season to find themselves.

1150
00:55:45,679 --> 00:55:47,559
They just got blown out by Illinois as a matter

1151
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:50,719
of fact, seventy one to fifty one without Stoyakovic in

1152
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,800
the game. But to me, I'm just going to isolate

1153
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,039
Purdue offense here because I don't like the Indiana defense

1154
00:55:57,079 --> 00:55:58,960
what I've seen of it for most of the season.

1155
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:03,239
And if they miss, Purdue gets out and gets going here.

1156
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:07,800
I have to believe that Kaufman, Wren, Fletcher, Lawyer, Brayden Smith,

1157
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,840
et cetera, et cetera make shots here at home. I

1158
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:16,360
refer back to who did Wisconsin just play? They played

1159
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:20,840
somebody at home where they came out and just drained threes.

1160
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,679
It was like last week all they did was hit

1161
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:23,480
a bunch of three.

1162
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:28,199
Speaker 2: Was it the upset went over Illinois? Didn't they upset Illinois? Yeah?

1163
00:56:28,639 --> 00:56:30,639
I think it was whatever it was.

1164
00:56:30,679 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 3: But I'm correlating this to that Purdue and this isn't

1165
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,719
even an upset. But I think Purdue at home off

1166
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:40,039
of the Michigan game, step down in defensive class. For sure.

1167
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,159
Michigan is so tough at the rim. Michigan is so

1168
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,000
tough at the perimeter. They're like top five and everything,

1169
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,559
and Indiana just is not. And if Indiana is not

1170
00:56:48,599 --> 00:56:51,800
making shots, Purdue is going to rebound and get out

1171
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,039
and go. I know they're a methodical team, but they

1172
00:56:54,079 --> 00:56:58,039
do run. It's a controlled pace type team. To me,

1173
00:56:58,199 --> 00:57:00,440
Adams seventy nine and a half just seems way too

1174
00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:03,199
I could see Purdue getting eighty three plus in this

1175
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,480
game against Indiana, especially in the revenge spot. I like,

1176
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,760
I'm gonna add one more thing here to quote head

1177
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,360
coach Matt Painter. Everybody probably saw this quote because it

1178
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,880
was broadcast one hundred times since he made it. But

1179
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,519
after the Michigan game, he basically said, your final test

1180
00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:25,079
is the NCAAA tournament. That's the way I look at it. Sure,

1181
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:27,440
you want to win those these types of games, but

1182
00:57:27,519 --> 00:57:29,880
if we would have won, we wouldn't have had a parade.

1183
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,599
If we won this game, it doesn't mean we're going

1184
00:57:32,639 --> 00:57:37,960
to the final four. Translation, We're still gonna play hard.

1185
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,880
Everything hasn't been decided yet. It's ahead of us. I

1186
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,280
think it starts here tonight with Produce scoring more than

1187
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,159
eighty points or eighty points or more. So give me

1188
00:57:46,199 --> 00:57:49,880
their team total over seventy nine and a half and

1189
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,719
we'll lay the juice with it. So guys, if you

1190
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,800
have to use the alternate line seventy nine and a

1191
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,599
half minus over minus twenty five cents, go ahead and

1192
00:57:57,639 --> 00:57:57,920
do that.

1193
00:58:00,239 --> 00:58:02,519
Speaker 1: I only have like a couple of things to add here,

1194
00:58:02,519 --> 00:58:04,760
but they they would be my angle in this one

1195
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,159
would be the full the full game total. So it's

1196
00:58:07,159 --> 00:58:09,920
correlated exactly how you're seeing it, and it's just for me.

1197
00:58:10,039 --> 00:58:13,559
I think Indiana helps out enough here where you get

1198
00:58:13,559 --> 00:58:16,400
the full game gets there as well. Should see a

1199
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,159
bounce back from Purdue. However, like if you're talking spread

1200
00:58:19,159 --> 00:58:21,239
for a minute, Purdue is not. You know, they have

1201
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,599
not covered many games at home this year, and I

1202
00:58:23,639 --> 00:58:26,159
think that really speaks to like Purdue is one of

1203
00:58:26,199 --> 00:58:30,920
those teams power rating wise has been elite all season,

1204
00:58:31,039 --> 00:58:35,039
Like way up there, you know, my numbers show value

1205
00:58:35,079 --> 00:58:37,159
on Purdue every single game, Like right now, like my

1206
00:58:37,519 --> 00:58:39,199
number here is like thirteen and a half.

1207
00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:41,239
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna bet it because I've.

1208
00:58:41,039 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: Sort of learned at this point that Purdue, like my

1209
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,920
numbers are gonna show edges on Purdue pretty much timing

1210
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,199
and time out. Now, can they turn around like, would

1211
00:58:49,199 --> 00:58:51,119
I be that surprised that they turn around and like

1212
00:58:51,559 --> 00:58:54,800
win big here because it's like they're almost like overdue

1213
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:55,280
to do so.

1214
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,679
Speaker 2: No, but I don't know. I don't know that personally.

1215
00:58:58,159 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: I want to write off Indiana's ability to stay in

1216
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,079
this game. Indiana, they if they can get to the line,

1217
00:59:05,079 --> 00:59:08,400
they're gonna score points. They I say, like, you know,

1218
00:59:08,519 --> 00:59:12,480
at they get reasonably good shots. Typically they get better

1219
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,599
shots at home than they do on the road. We'll

1220
00:59:14,599 --> 00:59:17,840
see if Purdue can force them into worst shots. But again,

1221
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,159
like even if Perdue got up big in this one,

1222
00:59:20,199 --> 00:59:24,480
I could see Indiana hanging around hitting some threes, maybe

1223
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,559
get maybe Perdue, like you know, can't keep him off

1224
00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:30,039
with a rim in a in a blowout type game.

1225
00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:31,960
So I think you're gonna get your points either way.

1226
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,639
I love, I'll.

1227
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 2: Totally with you on the team total.

1228
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: But if you had to bet a full game total

1229
00:59:38,039 --> 00:59:40,559
here because you're booked an offer team total or that's

1230
00:59:40,639 --> 00:59:43,440
just the way you're looking, I do think Indiana helps

1231
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,360
out and helps you get to that number. And of course,

1232
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,199
you know, I mean Indiana won the first meeting, put

1233
00:59:49,239 --> 00:59:51,599
up seventy two points one seventy two to sixty seven.

1234
00:59:52,119 --> 00:59:55,199
So this is an interesting one. Really could go either

1235
00:59:55,239 --> 00:59:57,519
way on the spread at this number, So I'll just

1236
00:59:57,599 --> 00:59:58,920
roll with you. Rob, I like the over.

1237
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 3: Let's go reason why they Indiana. They're off a fifty

1238
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,280
one point performance against Illinois. You expect Indiana to be

1239
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,239
better here as far as full game total is concerned,

1240
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:16,280
So we can't talk people off of that perdue probably

1241
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,239
angry off of allowing ninety something to Michigan as well,

1242
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,920
so defense might show up on that end. But we'll

1243
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,960
roll with Purdue over seventy nine and a half and

1244
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,559
let's see if we can knock one of these three

1245
01:00:25,559 --> 01:00:26,239
teamers down.

1246
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 2: It will be a great way to finish off the week.

1247
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: Of course, Rob and I will be with you on

1248
01:00:31,119 --> 01:00:33,880
Last Call tomorrow with Kelly Stewart, so we'll be doing

1249
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,880
another three teamer in that show. The three teamer for

1250
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,039
today plus five thirty odds. Brian Power is going with

1251
01:00:40,199 --> 01:00:43,440
my Sianna Saints plus three and a half. I'm gonna

1252
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,880
go with the Akron Zips minus fourteen and I did

1253
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,079
attach minus one twenty juice to that, and Rob Bino

1254
01:00:49,159 --> 01:00:52,599
is going Purdue team total over seventy nine and a half.

1255
01:00:52,679 --> 01:00:55,360
There's minus one twenty five jews attached to that that

1256
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,119
becomes a plus five thirty parlay. Rob and I have

1257
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:02,360
the double the Firepower seed package up on our page.

1258
01:01:02,639 --> 01:01:06,519
That's everything for the weekend Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Every play

1259
01:01:06,559 --> 01:01:09,639
we make in college basketball, I can just about guarantee

1260
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,519
that I'll have another five percenter tomorrow. I am already

1261
01:01:12,559 --> 01:01:15,280
pretty sure of what it is. We'll see as lines

1262
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,519
start to pop. But it's gonna be a great weekend.

1263
01:01:17,679 --> 01:01:20,039
I hope you join us, and yeah, come join us

1264
01:01:20,039 --> 01:01:23,199
on last Call Kelly Stewart eleven am Eastern tomorrow. We'll

1265
01:01:23,239 --> 01:01:26,079
be talking games all day. See you guys later, Good

1266
01:01:26,159 --> 01:01:27,480
luck tonight. Go see na