WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.280 --> 00:00:08.320 Well, let's some marvel. The snad for a mun dance 2 00:00:08.599 --> 00:00:12.919 with the star up above and your eyes a brand 3 00:00:13.039 --> 00:00:17.239 tab a snack to make romance need the cover of 4 00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:21.800 October's skies. You know, the leaves on the trees are 5 00:00:22.039 --> 00:00:25.719 bowing to the sound of the breeze of that blood. 6 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:27.039 You know. 7 00:00:27.160 --> 00:00:29.839 I'm trying to so as you are, as you get 8 00:00:29.879 --> 00:00:30.839 a little older, how old are you? 9 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:31.879 Order? How old are you? 10 00:00:31.920 --> 00:00:34.640 Again? I always forget you're like twenty eight? The no, 11 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:38.840 you're no, you turn thirty this year. You're so, you're 12 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:41.920 barely thirty years old. As you age like I have, 13 00:00:42.200 --> 00:00:44.840 and continue to rapidly, you get very excited about dumb, 14 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:48.640 mundane things. Stop by seven today on the way in 15 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:53.920 they were selling peanut Eminem's for one dollar. That's huge, 16 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:56.039 It's gigantic. So I've got a nice little you can 17 00:00:56.079 --> 00:00:57.920 hear it in the mic. Gotten my nice little pack 18 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:02.399 of peanut Eminem's favorite and ms. Your preferred style of Eminem's, 19 00:01:02.439 --> 00:01:04.040 what is it? I might have to go with the 20 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:07.359 og just the plane Eminem plane Eminems, but those are 21 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:10.079 those are good. The peanut minems might be a close second. 22 00:01:10.120 --> 00:01:13.280 Peanut butter M and M's also solid. I'll go Reese's 23 00:01:13.280 --> 00:01:16.120 pieces over those. But yeah, concur but the peanut m 24 00:01:16.159 --> 00:01:18.400 and m's were a buck I got. I got five 25 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:20.599 of these today. You can't beat that. No, I'm pumped. 26 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:24.599 I'm pumped. Sean Mooney is old like I am, best 27 00:01:24.719 --> 00:01:26.359 type of eminem Sean, what is it? 28 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:29.680 Oh peanut eminem's for sure. You knew that about me, though, Spence, 29 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:31.760 because I am a nut. I'm crazy. I love them. 30 00:01:31.840 --> 00:01:34.000 Look at you, Look at you and Sean. I've got 31 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:35.359 to say, I don't know if it's age, but I 32 00:01:35.439 --> 00:01:38.719 walk into Sev and I see dollar peanut eminem's. I'm 33 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:40.319 grabbing five of those bad boys. 34 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:43.920 Oh. And if they had the nachos, I would put 35 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:47.519 every chip in vertically so I could get as many 36 00:01:47.599 --> 00:01:49.920 chips as possible and get all the cheese in the 37 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:51.239 jalopenas I could. 38 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:54.719 We are the same age, because you're talking my language, man, 39 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:59.840 I mean two am young Spence, checkets University of Utah student. 40 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:02.959 I'm walking to Sev. I'm smashing nachos. I'm with you. 41 00:02:03.120 --> 00:02:06.159 Yes, yes, man. We for Scrip and Ogden and so 42 00:02:06.239 --> 00:02:08.520 it was on thirty six and Washington, so we'd be 43 00:02:08.599 --> 00:02:11.199 dragging and then we would get that and I would 44 00:02:11.319 --> 00:02:13.400 drag for another couple. And when I say drag, I 45 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:19.039 mean like drive a car. Sure, sure Washington Boulevard. Did 46 00:02:19.080 --> 00:02:19.439 you brother? 47 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:22.639 Did you? Did you ever? Did you ever drag State 48 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:24.199 Street back in the day when it was legal. 49 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:27.520 I mean we like they didn't really let Ogden kids 50 00:02:27.639 --> 00:02:30.000 into Salt Lake City, you know they were they were 51 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:32.759 a little nervous about us, so every once in a 52 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:35.000 while we would. But I think they I don't know 53 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:38.080 if it was legal when how when did they stop 54 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:39.240 it from being legal? 55 00:02:39.319 --> 00:02:42.280 I don't know. I don't know. It felt like because 56 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:45.240 it was legal throughout my time in college. I think 57 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:47.280 early two thousands they may have put a stop to 58 00:02:47.319 --> 00:02:50.800 it because the problem was way too many, like dumb 59 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:53.360 dudes would see girls in a car and then they 60 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:55.319 would get all their attention and then they would like 61 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:56.879 run into the car in front of them. So I 62 00:02:56.960 --> 00:02:59.159 understand why they stopped it, But no, we did. We 63 00:02:59.199 --> 00:03:02.560 did not want your kind down here. You know, if 64 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:04.800 there's a scrap dude, you know, want to mess without town, 65 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:06.080 I know what time it is shot. 66 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:09.759 It's so true. Hey, I heard your interview with Chris Hill, 67 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:11.800 and I got to just dig in you just a 68 00:03:11.879 --> 00:03:16.240 little bit. You were guarding Andre Miller. Were you trying 69 00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:17.159 out for the team? 70 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:18.360 Tell me about that? Yeah. 71 00:03:18.400 --> 00:03:18.479 No. 72 00:03:18.599 --> 00:03:21.280 So I went to Rix camp growing up, and you 73 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:23.520 know Rick, I got letters from Rick and he was 74 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:26.560 kind of interested in and look, I just I transfer 75 00:03:26.599 --> 00:03:29.280 out to Bountiful. We had a good team, and you know, 76 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:33.199 Rick offered me the opportunity to come just play with 77 00:03:33.240 --> 00:03:35.080 some of the walk ons and some of the scholarship 78 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:37.280 guys and see if it was like a fit. And 79 00:03:37.479 --> 00:03:42.280 it lasted like a month because Andre was and you know, 80 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:44.120 there were a lot of those walk on guys there. 81 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:47.520 A Cody Huger who was an assistant for BYU, was 82 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:49.479 kind of in some of those runs. And within a 83 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:51.319 few weeks, it's just like you know, and I went 84 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:53.199 in and I talked to Rick, and he was very honest. 85 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:55.520 He said, look like Andre is the guy, and you know, 86 00:03:55.560 --> 00:03:57.120 if you want to stick around, you can walk on 87 00:03:57.199 --> 00:03:59.879 the team and maybe earn some playing time as a junior. 88 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:02.639 But I was eighteen years old and thought I was 89 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:04.439 better than I was, and I just walked out. I 90 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:06.960 probably should have transferred, but I joke all the time 91 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:09.560 that Andre Miller made me realize what it's like to 92 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:11.960 play like that. And I was not near on his level. 93 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:15.599 I mean, here's the deal. You got unlucky because I 94 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:17.920 know who you played against in high school. Sham God? 95 00:04:17.959 --> 00:04:18.360 Is that right? 96 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:18.920 Yeah? 97 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:23.040 Sam, Yeah, Sham and then Andre Miller. Come on, that's ridiculous. 98 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:26.319 No, it's ridiculous. But it also puts it into proper perspective. 99 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:29.040 You know, Sham God. Wells was the first and God, 100 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:31.680 Sham God. Now he's in his Dallas Mavericks assistant coach 101 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:34.879 Providence PC Friar's kid. He was the first pro I 102 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:37.240 played against that I was sixteen. It was at five 103 00:04:37.279 --> 00:04:40.839 star basketball camp and the drill was simple, you just 104 00:04:40.920 --> 00:04:43.519 had to It was a half court drill and it 105 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:45.839 was two guards. One was guarding the ball and then 106 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:47.759 the ball handler had to beat the guard to get 107 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:50.800 past half court to break a press. And he picked 108 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:54.000 my pocket three straight times, and it was so embarrassing, 109 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:57.879 like and it just it made me realize at that 110 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:00.319 age that there are clear levels, no matter how good 111 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:02.720 you think you are, they're always Let me ask you 112 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:04.399 who was the first? Because you were a good player, 113 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:07.079 who's the first dude you played against? Where you're like, nope, 114 00:05:07.120 --> 00:05:07.759 I'm not like that. 115 00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:11.680 Yeah, Kurt Miller for sure. Okay, So Kurt Miller played 116 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:14.040 at Ben Loman, which is our crossdown rival, and he 117 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:16.399 was younger than I was, and I got to play 118 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:19.279 as a youngster kind of right away at Ogdenheight because 119 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:21.160 I was tall and dumb and set good screens. And 120 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:23.800 Mark Heslip was on my team who played at b YU, 121 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:26.680 who could really shoot it right, And Kurt Miller, man, 122 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:29.360 I mean, I've never seen anything like it. I think, 123 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:32.240 like I get a catch inside, post him up. Think 124 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:34.800 I got a nice little shake and shimmy and shot 125 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:38.879 and that shot gets rejected like it breaks the you 126 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:41.639 know the wall that he I mean crazy. He was 127 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:44.199 just so much more athletic and so much faster and 128 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:45.399 everything else is crazy. 129 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:47.319 Yeah. My claim to fame is I threw an alley 130 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:48.839 up to Tim Thomas at five star. 131 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:50.040 Oh my gosh. 132 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:53.920 You know, you know it's wild Sean like back then, 133 00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:57.639 you know, the the dudes that everybody looked at as 134 00:05:57.720 --> 00:06:00.000 like the next Jordan or what it was, Tim Tom 135 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:01.720 I miss and lamar Odom where I grew up, it 136 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:04.519 was those two, and so just being on the same 137 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:06.639 court with some of those guys. Was a great honor, 138 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:09.560 but it just made me realize exactly where I was 139 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:12.199 in the ecosystem. I was a fine high school player. 140 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:15.279 We should never really talk about my basketball career on 141 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:15.639 the show. 142 00:06:16.839 --> 00:06:19.040 I'm so sorry. I can't help it. I heard it 143 00:06:19.120 --> 00:06:21.639 not that. Your interview with Chris was really good. For 144 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:24.000 all those listeners out there, go back and listen to it. 145 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:25.879 You did it good. You do a great job, Spence. 146 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:27.639 No, that's nice of you. All I could do was 147 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:29.519 shoot it. And if you're a five to eleven white kid, 148 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:31.160 you better be able to shoot it because there's nothing 149 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:33.040 else on the table. I'm not talking you. 150 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:35.639 Say you were good. You can't get that invite and 151 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:37.720 play at that level unless you were good. I wish 152 00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:39.879 you would have. You know, who cares you are where 153 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:40.519 you're supposed to. 154 00:06:40.519 --> 00:06:42.920 Be right for sure? For sure? And you know I 155 00:06:42.959 --> 00:06:45.680 loved playing. I wish I could have played throughout college 156 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:47.800 and then beyond, but it just wasn't in the card. 157 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:50.120 So I had to find something else to do, and 158 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:52.399 I landed on this, which I enjoy very much. Sean, 159 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:54.399 But how are you man? Everything good with you? 160 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:57.399 I'm good? Yeah, No, really good? Thanks for asking It's 161 00:06:57.399 --> 00:06:59.839 been a good week. I'm so glad it's Friday right now. 162 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:02.560 And I mean, like, I can't believe smith would just 163 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:04.399 happen in the last twenty four hours. I know we 164 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:07.319 may talk about a bunch of things today, but West Virginia, 165 00:07:07.399 --> 00:07:10.240 Derez goes to Indiana, And how about Utah State. My 166 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:12.480 dad played at Utah State as a football player, So 167 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:14.720 I'm an Aggie at heart. I was born in Logan. 168 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:17.399 Every time they get a coach, and they get a 169 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:19.600 coach that does great, next thing you know, they're gone. 170 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:21.199 He's at West Virginia's crazy. 171 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:22.879 Wait is that official? 172 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:25.720 I don't know if that's official. I may be in 173 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:28.560 trouble on your shot right now. That's what I was 174 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:30.879 listening to. And if I get in trouble, please forgive me. 175 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:32.879 No, no, no, it's all good. It's all good. Because 176 00:07:32.879 --> 00:07:34.959 I saw the rumors. I just didn't know anything. I 177 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:38.439 had gone down Sean because Utah State got on dress 178 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:39.079 last night. 179 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:44.199 Yeah, Andre, I mean listen that the tournament's so hard. 180 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:46.879 You know this. I mean, you get to that first 181 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:50.240 round and you've really done something special. But the reality 182 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:53.199 is they're really good coaches at that level and you know, 183 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:55.600 the talents at a high level, and a lot of 184 00:07:55.639 --> 00:07:58.079 those teams, especially from the Power four conferences, they have 185 00:07:58.120 --> 00:07:59.959 two or three players. You guys were talking about this 186 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:02.639 me play at the next level and or go play 187 00:08:02.680 --> 00:08:03.279 in Europe. 188 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:06.480 Yeah, yeah, now for sure. And the tournament is tough. 189 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:08.480 And that was a tough draw because McK cronin's a 190 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:11.519 good coach and UCLA is big and physical and you know, 191 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:14.720 just not a lot of space and so unfortunately Utah 192 00:08:14.800 --> 00:08:18.240 State goes home. But since we're kind of in the 193 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:21.199 space and I didn't know this about you as an aggie, 194 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:25.079 how do you articulate sean that culture up there where? 195 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:27.120 And look, I don't want to diminish any of the 196 00:08:27.160 --> 00:08:31.519 coaches Danny, you know, of course, Craig or now Jared Calhoun. 197 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:33.519 I'm not saying anybody can go up there and win. 198 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:38.039 But dating back to Stu going through this, you know, 199 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:42.480 day and age, somehow, some way in Logan Utah, Utah 200 00:08:42.519 --> 00:08:47.080 State has this like under the radar, incredibly successful basketball culture. 201 00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:49.279 Why do you think that is? How have they done that? 202 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:52.320 Yeah? A couple of things. Number one, I want to 203 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:54.759 give a shout out to Jerry Bobe because and I 204 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:56.639 know he won't be instrumental in this next high but 205 00:08:56.679 --> 00:08:59.600 I think he's been instrumental. And then I won't name names, 206 00:08:59.639 --> 00:09:01.879 but I I've had the pleasure of meeting some of 207 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:04.720 their donors. A good friend of mine is Doug Boxleen. 208 00:09:04.759 --> 00:09:07.320 He's kind of we call him the Aggie Mafia. And 209 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:09.480 so I've been introduced to some of their high level 210 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:12.399 donors and they know basketball. I would say there are 211 00:09:12.399 --> 00:09:16.600 two things. One, Smith Spectrum is special. That place is special. 212 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:18.320 They're going to be students. They're going to come out 213 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:22.440 to those games every single time. It's loud. It's crazy, 214 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:25.039 you know that. Back in the day it was eul 215 00:09:25.120 --> 00:09:28.120 Levie coming in and Greg Grant was putting up thirty 216 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:31.120 and the game was great. Josh's older brother. But I 217 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:34.080 think Smith Spectrum and then they know basketball. Man, what 218 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:37.759 a hiring strength. I mean, it's crazy how well they've done. 219 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:40.440 For sure, it is. For sure it is. So let's 220 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:43.799 move over now to the news of the week, as 221 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:47.440 Alex Jensen was officially introduced as the seventeenth head coach 222 00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:51.519 in Utah men's basketball history on Monday, and we'll get 223 00:09:51.519 --> 00:09:54.200 to the higher he made that became official today and 224 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:56.519 We've talked about this throughout the course of the past 225 00:09:56.519 --> 00:09:58.960 month or so, Sean, so we knew it was coming. 226 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:01.360 We heard the announcement, But now that it is official, 227 00:10:02.440 --> 00:10:05.000 what's your reaction and what's been the reaction of people 228 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:06.320 kind of in your ecosystem? 229 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:09.360 So, I mean in terms of Alex or in terms 230 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:10.600 of chilliest chach chow. 231 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:12.759 We'll get to the hire in a second. Let's hone 232 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:13.759 in on Alex first. 233 00:10:14.639 --> 00:10:18.159 So I mean, like, the reaction is great. Obviously I 234 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:20.159 was there with you. I wasn't I wasn't down on 235 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:22.360 the media seating. I mean, you know, they don't let 236 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:24.360 the they don't let the color guy go down to 237 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:26.120 the media seating. So Christine and I had to sit 238 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:28.240 up in the in the chief seats, but we got 239 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:30.960 to hear it. I don't think Alex is gonna win 240 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:35.039 any like Dynamic Speaker awards. But the two things that 241 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:37.039 I heard, and you may you may back me up 242 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:41.080 on this is I'm going to be genuine and I'm diligent, 243 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:45.200 and I love those two qualities. I don't think we 244 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:48.320 need someone to come in here and be coach Majaris 245 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:52.600 or be someone that is big and bold and you 246 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:55.559 were right in your conversation with Chris Hill. His wife 247 00:10:55.919 --> 00:10:59.240 is the opposite of him. My goodness, she's outgoing and warm. 248 00:10:59.279 --> 00:11:02.720 And that's not necessarily Alex, and I don't think we 249 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:05.519 need that, but I love that we have genuine and 250 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:08.159 diligent coming to touch University of Utah. 251 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:11.799 Yeah, for sure. And you know, I have wondered whether 252 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:15.799 or not Alex's introverted nature, and everybody that knows them 253 00:11:15.799 --> 00:11:17.440 talks about how funny he is and kind of a 254 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:19.720 dry sense of humor. A lot of the jazz guys 255 00:11:19.879 --> 00:11:21.879 have been asked about Alex over the past couple of 256 00:11:21.879 --> 00:11:24.840 weeks since the announcement became official, and when the jazz 257 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:27.320 We're in Minnesota, one of the beat writers asked Gobert 258 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:30.120 about aj as well, and they all kind of said 259 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:32.919 the same thing. Just what a good, solid, genuine person 260 00:11:32.960 --> 00:11:36.639 he is and the quiet nature doesn't mean anything other 261 00:11:36.679 --> 00:11:39.639 than he's introspective and he actually does have a very dry, 262 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:42.320 funny sense of humor. Is he gonna have to come 263 00:11:42.320 --> 00:11:44.559 out of the shell a little bit in order to, 264 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:47.200 you know, recruit at a lot because this is his 265 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:48.919 first I mean, he was a G League head coach, 266 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:53.399 but he's now the face of Utah basketball. Is there 267 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:55.919 gonna be some sort of adjustment that he's gonna have 268 00:11:55.960 --> 00:11:57.879 to make in order to be more of a front 269 00:11:57.919 --> 00:12:00.440 facing head coach in college basketball. 270 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:03.919 Yeah, that's a really good question. No, I don't think so. 271 00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:07.399 I think that the fans will embrace him for who 272 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:10.320 he is, and I think where his strength is going 273 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:14.320 to lie. Now again, I'm just based on what I'm learning. 274 00:12:14.360 --> 00:12:16.600 As you learn too. I know Alex a little bit. 275 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:18.399 I think he even knew who I am. Of course 276 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:20.720 we shook hands and talked to a Scotch when we 277 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:23.279 were on the road trip to the Big Tell Tournament. 278 00:12:23.759 --> 00:12:25.840 But I think his personality is the kind that you 279 00:12:25.840 --> 00:12:28.360 get him in a room with a lot of people 280 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:32.000 and he's not going to be that dynamic everyone cheering. 281 00:12:32.519 --> 00:12:34.919 But if you get him in a room with less people, 282 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:37.639 he's going to be very powerful because he's going to 283 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:40.399 give you face to face contact. He's going to be 284 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:43.000 intent when he's talking to you. This is my impression, 285 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:47.480 and I think those types of interactions can be more 286 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:51.320 powerful because they do seem genuine because they really are. 287 00:12:51.360 --> 00:12:53.480 And I think that's going to be his strength, not 288 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:57.600 only with his athletes, but with fans and people that 289 00:12:57.639 --> 00:13:01.000 are going to appreciate that his words are you, but 290 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:04.440 what you see on the court is true. I think 291 00:13:04.519 --> 00:13:06.639 that's going to be obvious once he starts coaching. 292 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:10.600 So now let's get over So Coach Chill, I like it. 293 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:12.759 Is that the nickname for Raphael Chilius. 294 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:16.720 So I heard a little bit about this hire and 295 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:21.080 his his ex handle, his Twitter handle is coach Chill 296 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:24.000 and uh man, he's I think he's a great hire. 297 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:26.159 You probably know a little bit. I think he was 298 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:29.320 ended up being the associate head coach at University of 299 00:13:29.440 --> 00:13:33.360 Washington under Romar, so you know, PAC twelve level, and 300 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:35.519 he's been all over the place, I think most recently 301 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:39.200 obviously he's in Memphis, but before that, he took a 302 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:43.320 high school and really changed their fate. And he's worked 303 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:46.240 with obviously lots of athletes in particular some that have 304 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:50.000 gone to the next level. Just what I've just a 305 00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:52.799 little bit of digging in that I did. H Yeah, 306 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:55.240 coach chill is. I mean, I love that name, and 307 00:13:55.279 --> 00:13:57.960 I love that he's got connections across the board from 308 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:03.559 high school really recently to the pros to major college basketball. 309 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:07.480 So it's interesting, Sean, because a lot of the conversation 310 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:09.320 I've had a lot of guests on this show too, 311 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:11.960 about Alex's staff and how this is going to look 312 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:14.480 when he fills it out, has been like, yeah, you 313 00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:16.480 should just get former utes, and that's just kind of 314 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:18.879 the deal. And look, I think the former ute nostalgia 315 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:22.080 thing is something that will work in Alex's favor. You know, 316 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:25.320 the students there weren't even born when Alex was playing. 317 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:27.159 I mean, you know, so I don't even know how 318 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:31.639 much they really understand what he means to the basketball 319 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:34.919 ecosystem on our state as a Utah mister Basketball at 320 00:14:34.919 --> 00:14:36.799 Beaumont and then a whack Player of the Year and 321 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:40.159 then obviously seems like the one player that Rick was 322 00:14:40.279 --> 00:14:42.440 nice to according to all the guys that played with 323 00:14:42.519 --> 00:14:46.840 Alex and played for Rick. So this hire indicates and 324 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:49.679 I've been talking about this quite a bit. I mean, Alex, 325 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:51.720 of course spent nine years with the Jazz, so it's 326 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:53.639 not like he's been out of the market for twenty years. 327 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:56.840 But he hasn't been around Utah basketball since he graduated. 328 00:14:57.240 --> 00:15:00.639 And I'm sure he's maintained great relationships with former teammates 329 00:15:00.639 --> 00:15:02.840 and such and I'll continue to say, if Andre Miller 330 00:15:02.879 --> 00:15:04.840 wants to show up and coach for the Utes, you 331 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:09.240 make that higher. But this indicates that Alex certainly has 332 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:12.440 relationship that he's built and cultivated outside of the Utah 333 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:16.000 basketball stratosphere. What do you anticipate moving forward as we 334 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:17.399 hear some more of these announcements. 335 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:25.000 Obviously, if Andre it fits, I mean, he's an obvious 336 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:27.919 one to add. But I love the fact that he's 337 00:15:27.960 --> 00:15:32.039 bringing in different thought patterns and different ideas and people 338 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:35.440 of different backgrounds and different cultures, and this is only 339 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:37.799 going to be helpful for him. And I really love 340 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:40.799 what he said in his presser he took. I think 341 00:15:40.840 --> 00:15:43.759 he he said he really thinks about something when he's 342 00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:45.879 doing it, and what he doesn't want to do and 343 00:15:45.919 --> 00:15:49.200 what he's not doing is rushing into it. I love that. 344 00:15:49.399 --> 00:15:53.200 I mean, basically, he's putting his own team together around him, 345 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:56.559 and I believe this is true. Spence. This is why 346 00:15:56.600 --> 00:16:00.399 you have Porter. You know, he gives something, He brings 347 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:03.039 something to the table that you can't. I think Alex 348 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:04.759 is going to do that. And now we know Porter's 349 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:07.159 bringing a thirty thirty year old to the table. We 350 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:09.519 don't have that, so you got that with what he 351 00:16:09.600 --> 00:16:11.759 also brings. But Alex is going to do the same thing. 352 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:13.840 I think he's going to bring people to the table 353 00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:16.879 that aren't just yes people, Yes, Coach Jensen, this is 354 00:16:16.919 --> 00:16:19.200 what we want to do. But they're going to challenge him. 355 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:22.879 They're going to challenge the idea of what they create together. 356 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:24.919 And I love that he's taking his time. I know 357 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:27.879 that seems scary, you know, because you want to try 358 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:29.480 and get into the transferport and you want to be 359 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:32.000 ready to go. But I love that he's taking this time, 360 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:33.600 and I think he's going to put the perfect team 361 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:35.840 around him if they can do it right. It's hard 362 00:16:35.840 --> 00:16:38.519 to come from the NBA to the collegiate level. Often 363 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:42.399 there's a discrepancy in pay, but you don't have a 364 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:45.679 discrepancy of on the road all the time. That's the 365 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:48.320 one beautiful thing, right When you go from the NBA, 366 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:51.240 where you're on the road. It's a ridiculous league in 367 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:53.840 terms of how much time you're away from home. You 368 00:16:53.919 --> 00:16:56.000 can be at home more when you're in college, which 369 00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:58.200 may be quality of life for some of these people 370 00:16:58.279 --> 00:16:59.480 if they're coming from the NBA. 371 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:01.720 Yes, to be clear, did you just compare porter to 372 00:17:01.720 --> 00:17:04.160 Andre Miller. Did you just say Porters de Andre Miller 373 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:04.759 of the show. 374 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:07.039 Did not compare you to Andre Miller. I'm so sorry, 375 00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:10.920 That's not what I meant. Sorry, we can we can reach. 376 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:13.640 I just you know, I've got to keep him humble, 377 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:18.440 because you know, our guy behind the glass at times 378 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:20.640 needs a little bit of Docer humility. He's still young, 379 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:23.000 he's in shape, he can dunk, and he thinks that's impressive. 380 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:26.799 Nobody thinks young people doing athletic stuff is impressive. You're young, 381 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:28.119 you should be able to do that. So I just 382 00:17:28.160 --> 00:17:32.599 have to make sure he has his Docer humility. Hey 383 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:35.720 tell me this. So it's just an interesting time where 384 00:17:35.799 --> 00:17:39.599 coach Eiler is still preparing for games. Right, so we 385 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:42.440 hear today laws and lovering in the transfer portal. Officially, 386 00:17:42.799 --> 00:17:45.640 he'll have one year of eligibility as a grad transfer 387 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:49.319 as well Hunter Hunter Erickson and then Jake Waaleen as 388 00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:51.839 a soft is also of the transfer portal. Any insight 389 00:17:51.960 --> 00:17:54.960 as to when the college basketball Crown takes place in 390 00:17:54.960 --> 00:17:56.440 a few weeks, who we are going to see on 391 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:57.119 this team? 392 00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:00.160 Yeah, I don't, I mean, but I do know that 393 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:02.599 they committed like the word on the street is that 394 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:05.400 now only the team committed to the Crown Tournament, but 395 00:18:05.519 --> 00:18:08.559 the coaches committed to the Crown Tournament, and you know, 396 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:12.039 and the coaches really giving them a lot of honor. 397 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:14.880 They've done a hell of a job. I mean, this 398 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:17.440 is not an easy situation, and by any stretch of 399 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:19.279 the imagination, I mean, as they sat there in the 400 00:18:19.319 --> 00:18:22.119 interview or the propressor for Alex, you know, there's just 401 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:26.279