Speaker 1: Karen. Yes, what would you say if I told you
Speaker 1: that there might be beings not from this Earth who
Speaker 1: are here specifically to help mankind create a better world.
Speaker 2: I would say, thank God, because we need all the
Speaker 2: help you can.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we certainly do, right. And what if I told
Speaker 1: you that there is a group of people that hold
Speaker 1: these beings in the highest regard it and have even
Speaker 1: created a religion dedicated to spreading and acting on the
Speaker 1: teachings of advanced extraterrestrial beings.
Speaker 2: Oh that sounds familiar, It does it?
Speaker 1: It does well. It just so happens that the Etheriist Society,
Speaker 1: and I hope I'd said it somewhat correctly, is just
Speaker 1: such an organization. They say that these beings recognize the
Speaker 1: extent of suffering on Earth, and they've made countless sacrifices
Speaker 1: in their mission to help us.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yep. Now, the founder of this inspiring society was an
Speaker 1: Englishman named George King, who did so shortly after he
Speaker 1: was contacted in London by an extraterrestrial intelligence known as Etherius. Sadly,
Speaker 1: mister King has since passed away and we no longer
Speaker 1: have direct access to him. However, today we do have
Speaker 1: the next best thing. Karen, mister King's personal assistant and
Speaker 1: the director of the Theory Society since two thousand and one.
Speaker 1: This one is going to truly be eye opening. So
Speaker 1: don't go anywhere because the skeptic musician starts. Now, my
Speaker 1: name is Will, and I'm Karen, and unlike moulderin Scully,
Speaker 1: want to believe. So we've embarked in a journey of discovery.
Speaker 2: We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and
Speaker 2: metaphysical world.
Speaker 1: We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even
Speaker 1: joined a coven of witches.
Speaker 2: And wait, you joined a coven yep.
Speaker 1: All on the interests of finding something, anything that will
Speaker 1: prove that there's something beyond this physical.
Speaker 2: Three dimensional world we all live in.
Speaker 1: This is the skeptic metaphysicians. Hey there, I'm Will and
Speaker 1: I'm King, and today they we're diving into the cosmic.
Speaker 1: The Etherorioist Society is a spiritual organization founded in the
Speaker 1: mid nineteen fifties by doctor George King, who claimed to
Speaker 1: have had a significant spiritual experience where he was contacted
Speaker 1: by extraterrestrial beings. Now the society combines elements of Eastern philosophy,
Speaker 1: Western mysticism, and teachings related to cosmic or extraterrestrial beings,
Speaker 1: emphasizing service to humanity, spiritual evolution, and the idea that
Speaker 1: Earth is a living being. Now central to the Society's
Speaker 1: beliefs is that advanced beings from the other planets play
Speaker 1: an essential role in helping humanity through spiritual guidance. These beings,
Speaker 1: referred to as cosmic Masters, are believed to assist Earth
Speaker 1: in its spiritual evolution and protect it from disasters. Today
Speaker 1: were privileged to be accompanied by mister King's personal assistant
Speaker 1: and the director of the Society, Paul Nugent, to share
Speaker 1: with us the amazing experiences that it was to have
Speaker 1: lived and learned so much from this astounding religion's founder.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Paul Nugents.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you very much. Will and Karen and I
Speaker 3: think you've distilled the Theorist Society extraordinarily well in that introduction.
Speaker 3: The only thing that I would dare I say correct
Speaker 3: is that I am not the director. I am a director.
Speaker 3: We have several directors, and I was not the personal assistant.
Speaker 1: I was a personal assistant.
Speaker 3: There were three of us in the latter years of
Speaker 3: his life. But anyway, I just wanted to clarify that.
Speaker 3: But otherwise, excellent to some action of the Etherist Society.
Speaker 1: Well thank you that that means a lot to me.
Speaker 1: It must be such. I mean, it is in thirty
Speaker 1: five countries at the Society's insid you do need quite
Speaker 1: a few people to help drive the message forward, I
Speaker 1: would assume, so it would make sense that there would
Speaker 1: be more than one director, and mister King, being such
Speaker 1: a big personality, would certainly need more than one assistant.
Speaker 1: So we're glad that we have you here with us.
Speaker 3: It's great to be with you and to explain more
Speaker 3: about doctor King and the spiritual philosophy of the Etherist Society.
Speaker 1: It's fascinating because, honestly, until I started researching you, the
Speaker 1: only religion that I have heard about that speaks about
Speaker 1: extraterrustrial beings I believe was with scientology, Right, That's what
Speaker 1: I was thinking.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if they do. I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: I dially like the comparison. I often think that the
Speaker 3: Ethereal Society is the opposite end of the lens to Scientology.
Speaker 3: But that's not just sort of necessarily openly and publicly
Speaker 3: dismissed scientology. There are others, I mean, a star is one.
Speaker 3: There have been one or two. But certainly the Assious
Speaker 3: Society is the world's longest standing UFO organization. And we
Speaker 3: don't just see it in terms of the nuts and
Speaker 3: bolts of UFOs, but we see the whole thing far
Speaker 3: more seriously and far more importantly in a spiritual context.
Speaker 1: To put the words UFO with spirituality, it's not usually
Speaker 1: something that's put together except for that. We have heard
Speaker 1: people say that extraterrestrials are here to help humanity and
Speaker 1: things like that. But you take it very seriously, you
Speaker 1: take it to the nth degree. What are the major
Speaker 1: tenets of the religion? Because you do take this more
Speaker 1: of as a way of life.
Speaker 3: It's totally a way of life, it's a way of being.
Speaker 3: I think in a way, you could more reasonably argue
Speaker 3: that it's ridiculous for humanity to think that we are
Speaker 3: alone in the universe, you know. With the wonderful thing
Speaker 3: about one of the wonderful things about science and technology,
Speaker 3: particularly in recent decades, is that they've allowed us to
Speaker 3: realize how small and tiny, and you could even say
Speaker 3: insignificant we are in the universe. It literally is vast.
Speaker 3: In fact, you know, I was having a conversation with
Speaker 3: someone earlier this week. I'm led to understand it's extremely
Speaker 3: difficult to believe, but it seems to be the science
Speaker 3: that there are more stars, i e. Suns than there
Speaker 3: are grains of sand on all the beaches and in
Speaker 3: all the deserts on the surface of Earth. I mean,
Speaker 3: it blows the mind. Wow. Yeah, And even to be
Speaker 3: making that comparison allows one to realize how small and
Speaker 3: insignificant we are. I often think that, you know, how
Speaker 3: aware is the spider in the corner of this room
Speaker 3: that it's in a room that's in a house, that's
Speaker 3: in a town, that's in a state, that's in a country,
Speaker 3: that's in on a world, that's in a solar system
Speaker 3: and a galaxy, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And
Speaker 3: I think culturally and traditionally that's been very much our
Speaker 3: sort of very ego centric perspective on our place in
Speaker 3: the cosmos. And I think that, you know, hopefully that
Speaker 3: very sort of limited, narrow perspective is going to be broken.
Speaker 3: And because I think that the realization of our true
Speaker 3: place in the cosmos are insignificance, and yet at the
Speaker 3: same time, the fact that we are in this cosmos,
Speaker 3: we are a part of this incredible organism of the universe.
Speaker 3: We're a living aspect to it, hopefully will allow us
Speaker 3: to fundamentally and profoundly change as human beings in our
Speaker 3: understanding of ourselves, of each other, and what we are
Speaker 3: collectively a part of.
Speaker 1: Oh well, you said a mouthful and in order to yes, no,
Speaker 1: it's it's wonderful And I love the passion with which
Speaker 1: you share this whole subject. You can tell that you
Speaker 1: really it is your life, is your way of life,
Speaker 1: which is wonderful to hear. But for the audience to
Speaker 1: really truly understand what is we're talking about, first we
Speaker 1: need to rewind it a little bit and talk about
Speaker 1: George King. Can you tell us a little bit more
Speaker 1: about doctor Kings.
Speaker 2: The first contact exact that's.
Speaker 1: What I want to know, Yes, exactly. It give us
Speaker 1: morphiage about that pivotal moment when doctor King was contacted
Speaker 1: by the extratrustful being.
Speaker 3: Very very briefly, Doctor George King was born in England
Speaker 3: in nineteen nineteen. Twenty years later, in nineteen thirty nine. Tragically,
Speaker 3: the Second World War came along, and you could say
Speaker 3: a prime fighting age. He was thirty years old. But
Speaker 3: he knew inherently that thou shalt not kill was a
Speaker 3: law bigger than mankind. There was a truth, there was
Speaker 3: a profundancy, there was a greatness in that all sentiment.
Speaker 3: And so he became a conscientious objector, not that he
Speaker 3: couldn't recognize that Nazism was a terrible thing that needed
Speaker 3: to be counted, but he wasn't willing to go and
Speaker 3: kill fellow human beings for the sake of it. What
Speaker 3: he did was he joined the fire Brigade in London,
Speaker 3: which subsequently went through what's known as the Blitz, which
Speaker 3: was the bombing of civilians. And he saw that, he
Speaker 3: witnessed that first hand, and the devastation and the madness
Speaker 3: of that, the inhumanity of that, the craziness of that.
Speaker 3: Why why, why? Who are we? What are we doing
Speaker 3: to each other? And it led him to study. Coming
Speaker 3: out of the Second World War, or perhaps probably more
Speaker 3: likely during it, it led him to study and practice
Speaker 3: various forms of yoga, and he did it very intensely.
Speaker 3: He did it for up to eight hours a day
Speaker 3: over a ten year period. When you practice various forms
Speaker 3: of yoga, he was using primarily what is known as
Speaker 3: pranayama breathing exercises mantri yoga. When you do it that intensely,
Speaker 3: it causes a force that we all have in the
Speaker 3: base of the spine called the Kundalini to rise through
Speaker 3: a channel in the spine called the Sashumna channel. Open
Speaker 3: the chakras or psychic centers that we all have in
Speaker 3: our aura, and you gradually bring this force up such
Speaker 3: intensity he was eventually able to bring the Kundalini up
Speaker 3: to the highest census, the Christ's Center and the Crown chakra.
Speaker 3: When one's able to do that, one goes into a
Speaker 3: state of somadic consciousness or cosmic consciousness. There have been
Speaker 3: various individuals throughout our past who've been able to do this.
Speaker 3: It's very difficult to do it, it's very demanding, but
Speaker 3: it's ultimately the goal for all of us. And George King,
Speaker 3: as he was then in his early to mid thirties,
Speaker 3: was able to do this. And then one Saturday morning
Speaker 3: in May of nineteen fifty four, we believe it was
Speaker 3: May the eighth of nineteen fifty four. He literally heard
Speaker 3: a voice, and he said it was as stark as
Speaker 3: a gunshot going off. He heard a voice in his
Speaker 3: small apartment in London, and the voice said, prepare yourself.
Speaker 3: You are to become the voice of interplanetary Parliament. Wow, exactly,
Speaker 3: how exactly? He'd never heard of interplanetary parliament?
Speaker 1: I mean, who has?
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, who has? We haven't? We haven't.
Speaker 4: We have.
Speaker 3: We're about of it, but we have. We're not aware
Speaker 3: of that we've had that. There's there's something much greater
Speaker 3: going on, and something that is literally cosmic and divine
Speaker 3: and truly magnificent in every sense of the world. He
Speaker 3: was apparently he was washing dishes at the time he
Speaker 3: dropped the dishes. All he knew with his yoga training
Speaker 3: was that this was no psychic apparition. What he heard
Speaker 3: was for real. He knew that he had been developing
Speaker 3: and training himself for some kind of purpose. He, just
Speaker 3: as I say, had never heard of interplanetary parliament. He
Speaker 3: didn't know where the voice had come from, what it meant.
Speaker 3: The people who he was able to ask, which probably
Speaker 3: weren't very many, all could give him no answer as
Speaker 3: to what it had been so a week later he
Speaker 3: went back into meditation. He said, I am not leaving
Speaker 3: this apartment until I understand what that contact was. And
Speaker 3: there he was a yoga master quite well known or
Speaker 3: something was well known at the time from India, came
Speaker 3: through his locked door, came into his room, sat down
Speaker 3: opposite him, and explained what that communication had been, and
Speaker 3: he gave George King various other yogi techniques that he
Speaker 3: would need to adopt in order to gain rapport with
Speaker 3: these intelligences existing upon higher dimensions of the other planets
Speaker 3: within our solar system. The being who had made that statement,
Speaker 3: prepare yourself. You are to become the voice of interplanetary
Speaker 3: put goes by the name of A Serious. Hence we
Speaker 3: are the Etherious Society, and we understand that the Master
Speaker 3: Serious is an intelligence living and has lived in thousands
Speaker 3: of years upon the higher dimensions of Venus.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, so in that last five words, you
Speaker 1: just open up a whole can of worms. The extraterrestrial
Speaker 1: being known as a theorists lived in the higher dimensions
Speaker 1: of Venus. Oh wow, where do I go? There's so
Speaker 1: many places to go? Are you aware of the CE
Speaker 1: five movement? No, I'm not okay. So the CE five
Speaker 1: movement is a movement that was formed while back. It
Speaker 1: stands for close Encounters of the fifth kind. And basically
Speaker 1: what they do is they go out in the field
Speaker 1: and they consciously call extraterrestrial beings or UFOs to them
Speaker 1: because they feel, just like you, that they are here
Speaker 1: to help humanity.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: And apparently I think for the most part they see
Speaker 1: lights in the skies and things like that. Occasionally they'll
Speaker 1: get visitations and things. But from my understanding, the communication
Speaker 1: that you have, or that Etherial Society members have, it's
Speaker 1: a little bit less direct, is act fair to saying.
Speaker 3: A little bit less you mean, see five is a
Speaker 3: little bit less direct than the communication which doctor King had.
Speaker 1: Did he he didn't see a being in front of him? Right,
Speaker 1: he channeled, he heard, he.
Speaker 3: Has done, he did do, but it's just on that
Speaker 3: particular occasion he didn't.
Speaker 1: Okay, But you.
Speaker 3: See, a fundamental concept of all life, not just the
Speaker 3: rest your life. A principle of certainly of the Etherist Society,
Speaker 3: but not solely the etherisciety, by any stretch of the imagination,
Speaker 3: is the law of karma. I mean, we would say
Speaker 3: that even Christ taught the law of karma as you sow,
Speaker 3: so shall you read? The Lord Buddha stated, it is
Speaker 3: action and reaction or opposite and equal to my way
Speaker 3: of thinking. I mean, I fully accept the law of karma.
Speaker 3: But to my way of thinking, the law of karma
Speaker 3: makes no sense without the reciprocal law of reincarnation. In
Speaker 3: other words, it carries over what we sow, what we
Speaker 3: reap in one life, carries over to the next life.
Speaker 3: All with the actual fundamental purpose of us raising gondalinis
Speaker 3: that we're going to tain cosmic consciousness. But where do
Speaker 3: we go in that time between lives when we die
Speaker 3: awaiting reincarnation. Where do we go? We go to another sphere,
Speaker 3: another realm, another dimension if you like, around this Earth,
Speaker 3: and depending on our comic pattern on Earth, we have
Speaker 3: both higher realms of varying degree, but we also have
Speaker 3: lower realms of varying degree. And that concept is the
Speaker 3: same on the other planets, except they don't have lower
Speaker 3: realms because they don't have so to speak, shall we say,
Speaker 3: negative karma. It's all a higher dimension. So when we
Speaker 3: go to Venus, yes, we're going to the physical realm
Speaker 3: of Venus. These intelligences are not existing on that realm.
Speaker 3: They are on a higher level of frequency, which is
Speaker 3: in that sense all physical to all intents and purposes,
Speaker 3: but it's not the same. So that is what we're
Speaker 3: talking about in terms of other dimensions of the other
Speaker 3: planets and the master of theori Us. We believe that
Speaker 3: Jesus and bud Are both came from Venus. So what
Speaker 3: are your.
Speaker 2: Thoughts on when we die, do we become these ethereal
Speaker 2: creatures or beings or are they also kind of waiting
Speaker 2: for them to get to the next level.
Speaker 3: When we die. I think we're essentially just as we
Speaker 3: are here on Earth. We just find ourselves in a
Speaker 3: different dimension according to the whole frequency that we've created.
Speaker 3: While in this incarnation, I think we're more awakened. I mean,
Speaker 3: I had a very remarkable experience with my own brother
Speaker 3: when he died literally a couple of years ago, very sadly,
Speaker 3: very tragically, and very unexpectedly. I had this communication with
Speaker 3: my brother who found himself on another well, actually between realms.
Speaker 3: He didn't even know he died, poor Chap, and he
Speaker 3: was amazed to find that he was, to all intents
Speaker 3: and purposes, still alive. He just wasn't in his physical body.
Speaker 3: And I think that's how it is until we adjust
Speaker 3: to where we are, and then at the right comic time,
Speaker 3: we will take on once again human form and go
Speaker 3: through this whole rather one might say, rather tedious and
Speaker 3: slow process.
Speaker 2: It's almost like we come here and then some people
Speaker 2: believe in soil contracts, some don't. But we come here
Speaker 2: and if there's this karma from the past, it's like
Speaker 2: the whole time we're here, we're trying to leave here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like a vicious When we're here, we
Speaker 1: can't wait to go there.
Speaker 2: So we're here to learn everything to get back right.
Speaker 1: But then when we're there, we can't wait to get here,
Speaker 1: so we getting to have the human experience.
Speaker 3: Well, we are here to leave here. Our primary purpose
Speaker 3: is to leave here. Christ demonstrated it to us. The
Speaker 3: only way you're going to actually leave is through ascension.
Speaker 3: We are here to attain ascension. It's a lesson and
Speaker 3: a demonstration for every single one of us. The question
Speaker 3: is how do you get there? How do you get there?
Speaker 3: And it's not just a matter of wishful thinking. I
Speaker 3: wish it was, but.
Speaker 1: No, it isn't I'd be there by now if that
Speaker 1: was the case.
Speaker 3: Many times, exactly know, it's a process. It is a
Speaker 3: yoga process, you could say, but it's a process of realization.
Speaker 3: It's a process of realizing who and what we really
Speaker 3: are in that divine cosmic sense. And that realization inevitably
Speaker 3: brings about a sensation of love.
Speaker 5: When one truth it begins to realize that I am,
Speaker 5: that I'm a part of this, that I exist in
Speaker 5: the wholeness of everything, instinctively and naturally generates a sensation
Speaker 5: of love.
Speaker 3: Love leads to service. Love is care. You care. You
Speaker 3: care about everything, You care about the state of the world,
Speaker 3: you care about environment, you care about cruelty, You care
Speaker 3: literally about everything in a very sort of wholesome, pure way,
Speaker 3: and it leads you to serve, to want to serve.
Speaker 3: It has been demonstrated by every single master who's ever
Speaker 3: come to this earth. You start to serve because you
Speaker 3: realize the preciousness and the sacredness literally of not only everything,
Speaker 3: but of every single moment. And that is a path
Speaker 3: towards enlightenment. And that path towards enlightenment is a path
Speaker 3: towards cosmic consciousness. And when we can attain cosmic consciousness, liters,
Speaker 3: it will then we will ascend, and then we will
Speaker 3: leave up. But you see, even not everybody who has
Speaker 3: attained cosmic consciousness necessarily a sense. That's why you have
Speaker 3: what's called the ascended masters, who actually choose to stay
Speaker 3: here to help illumin humanity.
Speaker 1: And some people believe that Jesus and Buddha were just
Speaker 1: such ascended masters that they stayed behind.
Speaker 3: Maybe they do, and I'm not here to sort of
Speaker 3: argue against that. In the etherious society, we believe they
Speaker 3: were what's actually called avatars, as Shari Krishna was an avatar.
Speaker 3: An avatar is an intelligence who has come literally from elsewhere,
Speaker 3: we would say, in the higher realms of another world,
Speaker 3: another planet within our own solar system, who's come here
Speaker 3: to teach and struct. Christiana taught us the whole principles
Speaker 3: of yoga. Buddha taught us the wonderful part of compassion,
Speaker 3: as did Jesus. Love and service. We and the theater said,
Speaker 3: he wouldn't say that's necessarily actually been their primary role.
Speaker 3: We would say that Jesus came here to perform an outstanding,
Speaker 3: an essential calmic manipulation that averted a catastrophe upon Earth
Speaker 3: at that time. But he obviously did teach us how
Speaker 3: we should rightfully be living, and had we adopted those teachings,
Speaker 3: or the teachings of but Orshary Kushner, we would be
Speaker 3: living in a very different world. Unfortunately we tend to
Speaker 3: sort of dismiss them too easily.
Speaker 2: So in all of your work with the society, have
Speaker 2: you ever had contact?
Speaker 3: I haven't had personal contact. No, I haven't, because again
Speaker 3: you see, doctor King described the transmissions he received in
Speaker 3: a way a little bit similar to a radio set,
Speaker 3: which is the mind. And you know, we're all capable
Speaker 3: of receiving you know, we get we can have telepathic
Speaker 3: thoughts or whatever. We all receive thoughts with impulses, and
Speaker 3: we put out thoughts, et cetera. If we were to
Speaker 3: gain mastery through the process of yoga, then we would
Speaker 3: have control over the mind that would allow us to
Speaker 3: become a very finely tuned radio set, which is what
Speaker 3: he developed. And because he had such a finely tuned mind,
Speaker 3: through the experience of some ardic consciousness, he was able
Speaker 3: to connect, if you like, with the mind mind belt
Speaker 3: of those beings on the highest spheres. Actually not just
Speaker 3: on other planets, but also on our own world. I
Speaker 3: am too dumbed down. I'm afraid I'm too ordinary and
Speaker 3: I'm too human to attract.
Speaker 1: I think you're not giving yourself enough credit, Paula.
Speaker 2: Now, if you haven't had this contact, because a lot
Speaker 2: of people they you know, seeing is believing. What is
Speaker 2: it that sensed it for you, that made you believe
Speaker 2: this is true and decide to be involved.
Speaker 3: That's a very good question, Karen. When I came across
Speaker 3: the Etherist Society in the sort of early nineteen eighties,
Speaker 3: I had recently read the Four Gospels. I knew there
Speaker 3: was something missing in my life. I didn't know where
Speaker 3: to turn or what to do. I did have a Bible,
Speaker 3: having been raised, you know, I'm English, were in a
Speaker 3: church of England, had a Bible, and I read the
Speaker 3: Four Gospels and it resonated with me very very seriously.
Speaker 3: I felt and knew intuitively that here is someone who
Speaker 3: actually understands how we should be living our life. However,
Speaker 3: I was one of the colleagues from work was a
Speaker 3: member of this organization called the Etherist Society, and my
Speaker 3: boss was a wonderful mentor as well. He was studying
Speaker 3: Eastern philosophy at a school in London which I also attended,
Speaker 3: which opened me to the concepts of calma and reincarnation, etc.
Speaker 3: But anyway, when I came to the Ethereoust Society, I
Speaker 3: began to attend their services on a Sunday morning, and
Speaker 3: every Sunday service. We still do this, I'm sure will
Speaker 3: continue to do this. We play one of the cosmic
Speaker 3: transmissions that was received by Dr George King in nineteen
Speaker 3: fifty eight on twelve consecutive Sundays. These teachings are called
Speaker 3: the twelve Blessings, and we believe that they were given
Speaker 3: by Jesus. As I say, on twelve consecutive Sundays in
Speaker 3: nineteen fifty eight. Now, it's easy to sort of say that,
Speaker 3: it's quite another thing to believe that. What made me
Speaker 3: believe it, what made me accept it, what made me
Speaker 3: sort of look delve deeper into the Etherist society was
Speaker 3: the profundity, the exquisiteness, the fundamental truth of these blessings.
Speaker 3: They were profound, They were exactly precisely what our whole
Speaker 3: world is calling out for. This cosmic perspective of who
Speaker 3: we are, what we are. A part of the fact
Speaker 3: that the Earth is a living being, even the sun,
Speaker 3: the Sun is a living being, even the galaxy is
Speaker 3: a living being. It's all living, it's all alive. We're
Speaker 3: a part of it. We're a living part of this
Speaker 3: whole one essential unity, this oneness, this fastness. And it
Speaker 3: was just simply too important, too serious, too profound for
Speaker 3: me to ignore. And so I began, as I say,
Speaker 3: to take it all far more seriously. And that's why
Speaker 3: I'm talking to you now forty plus years later.
Speaker 1: Now, these transmissions that you play on Sundays, is it
Speaker 1: recordings of Doctor King speaking the transmissions or is it
Speaker 1: something else.
Speaker 3: Well, he would go into what we call a positive
Speaker 3: yogic somadic trance. He would go into a very elevated state,
Speaker 3: the most elevated state of consciousness, human being, escapable law.
Speaker 3: And in that state, Jesus, we believe, coming from a
Speaker 3: high dimension of Venus. Crazy as that may sound to
Speaker 3: our very limited terrestrial thumbed down you know, understanding, but
Speaker 3: communicating through the voice of Dr George King, you will
Speaker 3: hear it's the voice of Jesus, which is different to
Speaker 3: the voice of the Master Theorist, which is different to
Speaker 3: the voice of Mars sector six, for example, they were
Speaker 3: able to use him as a conduit through whom they
Speaker 3: could communicate. He was in his very his whole body.
Speaker 3: He was paralyzed. His he was paralyzed, it would go cold,
Speaker 3: because all of his consciousness had been raised into the
Speaker 3: Christ and Crown chakras. He was in a very elevated state.
Speaker 3: He himself did not know what was being spoken through
Speaker 3: him at that time. Sure, and so that is what
Speaker 3: one is listening to and what we play in all
Speaker 3: Sunday services.
Speaker 1: So you mentioned the Bible earlier in Catholicism or Christianity
Speaker 1: as a whole, that's their that's their map, their way forward,
Speaker 1: their lessons of how to be the right live the
Speaker 1: right life. Does the theory of society have anything similar
Speaker 1: that informs the membership that this is what we believe,
Speaker 1: this is what we are trying to achieve, this is
Speaker 1: how we want to move this thing forward. Or is
Speaker 1: it mostly these transmissions that you're talking about.
Speaker 3: The fundamental tenet of the ethere of society? And in
Speaker 3: this sense you could say it was the fundamental tenet
Speaker 3: of the transmissions being communicated to him, although it goes
Speaker 3: much broader than this and you could even say it's
Speaker 3: the fundamental tenet of the whole universe is service, or
Speaker 3: to use an unpopular word, is sacrifice. The whole of manifestation.
Speaker 3: Conscious manifestation is sacrificing itself. The galaxy is sacrificing itself
Speaker 3: so that lesser life streams within the galaxy can gain experience,
Speaker 3: because that's what it's all about. We are all here
Speaker 3: to gain experience, and fundamentally experience of God, this thing
Speaker 3: we're all a part of, and it just gets more
Speaker 3: and more and more exquisite. Is the great irony of it.
Speaker 3: We're delaying our bliss, if you like, we're delaying our joy,
Speaker 3: We're delaying our understanding of this fundamental soul journey that
Speaker 3: we're all making. It gets more and more and more incredible,
Speaker 3: and in that sense, I suppose ecstatic. But the way
Speaker 3: to attain it is by giving up of oneself, as
Speaker 3: Jesus actually taught himself. I go remember with the exact quotes,
Speaker 3: its being too long ago, but to essentially lose yourself,
Speaker 3: and in losing yourself you gain freedom.
Speaker 1: Well, you just answered. My next question was going to be,
Speaker 1: why would these extraterrestrial beings have a stake in what
Speaker 1: happens to us. You just mentioned it, right, the sacrifice
Speaker 1: they believe in, sacrificing of themselves to help other lesser
Speaker 1: beings grow in a sent.
Speaker 3: Well, I understand you're a married couple. I don't know
Speaker 3: if I'm a marri man, I don't know if you
Speaker 3: have children, we do right, Well, I'm here. It goes
Speaker 3: utterly without saying. You love your daughter doubt beyond doubt,
Speaker 3: and you do anything for your daughter, right, And it's
Speaker 3: a little bit the same with these cosmic intelligences. They
Speaker 3: love us not as their children, but as a part
Speaker 3: of themselves, a part of the same wholeness. And the
Speaker 3: more realization one has, the more one realizes that it
Speaker 3: is all a part of this infinite woneness, and that
Speaker 3: anything that suffers, and we suffer on humanity. It's you
Speaker 3: could say, it's almost entirely self inflictive. But it pains
Speaker 3: them whether your child, your child has to or children
Speaker 3: have to learn for themselves, we have to learn for us.
Speaker 3: They can't just intervene and go and tidy our own
Speaker 3: bedroom and do our maths project and everything else. They can't.
Speaker 3: They can't do it for us. They can give us
Speaker 3: the tools that enable us to do it for ourselves.
Speaker 3: And that is how these you see the essential, the
Speaker 3: essential energy of creation of God. I spell that g
Speaker 3: O D. I'll spell this out. It's l o v E.
Speaker 3: It's l o v E right in great cosmic sense
Speaker 3: of what this energy is. And that's that runs through
Speaker 3: the entire gamut.
Speaker 1: Right. So they must feel right now like you know,
Speaker 1: when you're you're seeing your daughter make the worst mistake
Speaker 1: of their life is every day. They must be like, what,
Speaker 1: oh my god.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's you know that, there's the really great
Speaker 2: people and maybe they have you know, the beings that
Speaker 2: are part of them, and then someone has Hitler and
Speaker 2: then get the shim shamp.
Speaker 3: It's like whoa, It's like.
Speaker 1: It's you should know, but right now? How old are you?
Speaker 1: How you should know better?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 1: And yet here we are making the same mistakes over
Speaker 1: and over and over again.
Speaker 3: Well, that brings in a very important point. We haven't
Speaker 3: mentioned my book, The Wonderful Isaiah Wonderful. I'm the author
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 1: Maya Maya, maya maya very very objective opinion, of course, Yes,
Speaker 1: of course.
Speaker 6: Yes, indeed, Well I'm I'm getting some rather nice reviews
Speaker 6: on Amazona.
Speaker 3: But thank you. But coming back to what you were
Speaker 3: just saying, our understanding is that we've had two previous
Speaker 3: civilizations on Atlantis and before that, La Mura the Muria, sure,
Speaker 3: both of which we destroyed through the intense misuse of
Speaker 3: atomic energy for atomic power, nuclear bombs, et cetera. We
Speaker 3: even go further than that and say we actually destroyed
Speaker 3: the planet upon which we previously existed over eighteen million
Speaker 3: years ago, called Maldeck. All that remains of Maldeck as
Speaker 3: the asteroid belt. So they can see us repeating the
Speaker 3: same mistakes, particularly, I mean, flying sources were commonly cited
Speaker 3: right after the Second World War because what had we done.
Speaker 3: We'd unleashed the atom once again, we dropped we created
Speaker 3: atom bombs in the Cold War, we went far further
Speaker 3: and developing the hydrogen bomb, which was a thousand times
Speaker 3: you know, more powerful than the atom. We've done this before.
Speaker 3: We did it in Atlantis, we've done it in Lemuria,
Speaker 3: and they could see us as children making that same
Speaker 3: crazy mistake, and yet we can't. You see, it's not
Speaker 3: just about us, it's also about the Earth. The Earth
Speaker 3: is a living, highly evolved, conscious intelligence who has literally
Speaker 3: had to put up with or not put it. She's
Speaker 3: accepted the incarnation of mankind because we destroyed Maldek, so
Speaker 3: we need we had to have somewhere to go. She said,
Speaker 3: all right, you can come here. I'll hold myself back
Speaker 3: while you go through this very slow process of reincarnation.
Speaker 3: But she can't hold herself back indefinitely.
Speaker 1: She must be incredibly pissed off. Right now.
Speaker 3: We could be happy that cosmic intelligences don't get shall
Speaker 3: we say, pistol.
Speaker 1: Dodge that one. Let's take a break and we'll be
Speaker 1: right back. And now back to the skeptic metaphysicians. That's
Speaker 1: a lot of history. People have seen angels, and even
Speaker 1: in the New Age movement, people talk about guides and
Speaker 1: intelligences that are conglomerations of theoric beings in the other
Speaker 1: dimensions who are here to help us. Are we talking
Speaker 1: about the same thing here?
Speaker 3: I think we are essentially Yes, I mean it might
Speaker 3: be a bit blood, but it's essentially the same thing. Sure, beings,
Speaker 3: more evolved beings on other dimensions, whether they're around this
Speaker 3: Earth or upon other other planets.
Speaker 2: So why do you think that all of the movies
Speaker 2: that talk about well, I would say like ninety eight
Speaker 2: percent of the movies that talk about the extraterrestrial beings
Speaker 2: are all horror.
Speaker 3: That's another wonderful question, Karen. You see, the point is
Speaker 3: not everything in the universe is beneficent. If that is
Speaker 3: the right world. There are beings, intelligences, and very powerful
Speaker 3: intelligences that do not. I mean, why do we have wars.
Speaker 3: We have wars and crime because there are intelligences. We
Speaker 3: would call them black magicians. There is a force of
Speaker 3: evil that does seek to manipulate conditions upon Earth, to
Speaker 3: construe situations where we war with each other, we cheat
Speaker 3: on each other, we push drugs on each other, crime
Speaker 3: in all its aspects, and it's very feasible. I don't
Speaker 3: want to malign the movie industry at all, because there
Speaker 3: are also some other wonderful movies. But these darker forces
Speaker 3: are seeking in a very negative way to sow seeds
Speaker 3: in humanity of the negative nature. What's important is for us,
Speaker 3: and we can do this by sort of getting in
Speaker 3: touch with our own intuition and our own conscience. In no,
Speaker 3: I reject that. I don't accept that, and instead invoke
Speaker 3: the energy and the essence of love and a greater
Speaker 3: cosmic wisdom and kindness. So to that extent, I would
Speaker 3: say that humanity is and has been in a conflict,
Speaker 3: and it's you could say this, what's behind the myths
Speaker 3: the Garden of Edenit's what's behind Lemuria's, what was behind Atlantis,
Speaker 3: It's what's behind the destruction of Maldo. That powerful negative
Speaker 3: influence does exist, and it's for each and every single
Speaker 3: one of us as an individual to be mindful and
Speaker 3: conscious of that and to get in touch with, as
Speaker 3: I say, one's own intuitive sense of what's right and wrong.
Speaker 3: For me, you know, it was reading the four Gospels.
Speaker 3: Ah ah ah, here I recognize, okay, someone who understands,
Speaker 3: and I fortunately took the steps to adhere to that
Speaker 3: and follow that. But many people don't.
Speaker 1: So while I tried to get a grip on the
Speaker 1: fact that you said two of Karen's questions were really good,
Speaker 1: and now a single time if you said mine have
Speaker 1: been good, well, I.
Speaker 3: Did appreciate your salvation at the very beginning that.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, I'll give you that. But it
Speaker 1: is interesting because the more the deeper I go down
Speaker 1: this path of awakening, the less I can actually I'm
Speaker 1: I don't want to say tolerating, but that's probably the
Speaker 1: only word I will. There was one show that I
Speaker 1: started watching very recently, and halfway through it, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I just I can't. I can't. Just feels it's so
Speaker 1: that the energies are so negative. It's just so. It
Speaker 1: was so uncomfortable for me that I literally, and I'm
Speaker 1: a TV guy and I'm a movie guy, that's what
Speaker 1: I do for a living. I had to walk away
Speaker 1: and not look back because it was so uncomfortable. And
Speaker 1: the more awake quote unquote I become, the less I
Speaker 1: tolerate those kinds of things. I used to love horror movies.
Speaker 1: I was a big horror movie fan. Friday the thirteenth
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, Nightmare on Elm Street, all
Speaker 1: those movies, Psycho. I can't watch them anymore. It's too
Speaker 1: much for me. And I think it's probably because my energies,
Speaker 1: my residents doesn't align with those types of frequencies anymore.
Speaker 1: At least I like to tell of that.
Speaker 3: Let me bring you up almost to character Karen's level there.
Speaker 6: Well, I think it's ahead on points, but I think
Speaker 6: that that sentiment you've touched on something extremely important, because
Speaker 6: again there is this awakening that's going on.
Speaker 3: I mentioned le Mirror, I mentioned Atlantis. I mentioned the
Speaker 3: fact that the Earth is a living being who's withheld
Speaker 3: herself that can only be done calmically for a certain
Speaker 3: period of time. That time has been reached. The Earth
Speaker 3: has been given a tremendous infusion of energy. If you
Speaker 3: want to know more about that, you will have to
Speaker 3: literally read the book. But things are changing, Things are
Speaker 3: quickening on Earth. They're quickening, and I think we can
Speaker 3: all recognize it. Yeah, in every sphere, on every level,
Speaker 3: and we are being called upon each and every one
Speaker 3: of us to hear that inner voice of conscience and
Speaker 3: truth that is speaking to every single one of us.
Speaker 3: And it goes that saying that there is this awakening
Speaker 3: that's taking place. Hopefully that well, there's a growing awareness,
Speaker 3: and in this growing awareness beginning to sort of shatter
Speaker 3: the culture of the political scene, in the economic scene.
Speaker 3: I don't want to go into a political see because
Speaker 3: it's bigger than that. I would sum it up by saying,
Speaker 3: the only crisis we have on Earth is not a
Speaker 3: political crisis. It's not an economic or even an environmental crisis.
Speaker 3: It's a spiritual crisis. We have a spiritual crisis on
Speaker 3: earth because we've lost that spiritual connection as an individual
Speaker 3: with literally with the cosmos, with our environment, with every
Speaker 3: living thing, and that connection quickening is forcing us to
Speaker 3: become far more aware of that divine connection.
Speaker 1: If I wasn't tied up with cables in microphones and all,
Speaker 1: I would stand up and give you a standing ovation,
Speaker 1: because that is an excellent summation, and that's a hard
Speaker 1: I could not I mean to say, I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 1: It's just so it doesn't even come close to covering
Speaker 1: how I feel about it, because you're absolutely right when
Speaker 1: you look at the political problems that we're having, especially
Speaker 1: even in this country right now, let alone the whole world.
Speaker 1: It's when that's a very surface level thing, when you
Speaker 1: look deeper into it, what's causing these divisions it is
Speaker 1: it is a falling out of connection with spirituality and
Speaker 1: a quickening of that mentality, that mindset of scarcity that
Speaker 1: has become so widespread that now there's this fissure happening
Speaker 1: between those that are awakening and realizing, oh, yes, we
Speaker 1: are one and we need to help each other, and
Speaker 1: those that say, nope, I'm in it for myself.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's in it. For myself, that's part
Speaker 2: of it, because I think as we've lost the connection,
Speaker 2: there's that like deep sort of loneliness or that a
Speaker 2: loneliness there is only me, and people don't know how
Speaker 2: to deal with that, And so you're banding with people
Speaker 2: that might not necessarily be the right type of people
Speaker 2: or something, but it's something that's familiar that you can
Speaker 2: hang on to. It's tough, man, it's a really hard situation.
Speaker 1: Now, So how do you get through that? How do
Speaker 1: you reach the people that are so separated, that's so
Speaker 1: disconnected from who they really are.
Speaker 3: All we can do is be our authentic selves. I
Speaker 3: know that's a cliche, but I think that the more
Speaker 3: honest we are as individuals, more brave we are as individuals.
Speaker 3: In other words, when I say brave to actually speak
Speaker 3: our truth without fear, and because what's behind that sense
Speaker 3: of bravery is the essence of love. And so as
Speaker 3: I say, the more authentic and genuine and honest we are,
Speaker 3: the more others will recognize that and respond to that.
Speaker 3: It's when we live in fear that we're in danger.
Speaker 3: So it's to come out of that and speak one's.
Speaker 2: Truth, and I think we have to really make a
Speaker 2: conscious effort for that. And it's almost like they say
Speaker 2: it takes but fourteen days for something to become a
Speaker 2: habit or fourteen weeks.
Speaker 1: Fourteen something, but minutes seconds, yeah, longer.
Speaker 2: Than that, Like for example, like today in traffic. You know,
Speaker 2: I used to get really frustrated when I would get
Speaker 2: cut off for this, and I still do from time
Speaker 2: to time. But I have made this conscious effort to think,
Speaker 2: I wonder if something's going on with them. I wonder
Speaker 2: if they're going to the hospital. I wonder if you know,
Speaker 2: maybe maybe something's going on and I don't know about it.
Speaker 2: So now that's almost my first reaction, and it just
Speaker 2: feels better because I don't get angry.
Speaker 1: Right, there's a difference. You are an angel on this planet,
Speaker 1: where we're just regular human beings of walking trying to
Speaker 1: get through life. So it's easier for you to think
Speaker 1: that way. For me, I'm like, how dare they think
Speaker 1: of no one but themselves and block the whole traffic lane.
Speaker 2: But it took an effort. It took me consciously thinking
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 1: But you thought about it. I did, was I'm just
Speaker 1: like this guy doesn't know what he's doing. Well, let's
Speaker 1: take a moment and actually dive into your book, because
Speaker 1: that's something I absolutely want to make sure we touch on.
Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about the theory of society. We've
Speaker 1: talked about these extraterrestial beings that are here to sacrifice
Speaker 1: themselves to help us to ascend. But what we haven't
Speaker 1: really touched on too much was how much time you
Speaker 1: spent in close contact with doctor King. Being with someone
Speaker 1: that is that enlightened and that connected must have been astounding.
Speaker 1: First of all, do you touch on that at all
Speaker 1: in your book?
Speaker 3: Yes, I do. I mean the most unusual in otherwise
Speaker 3: sort of unhuman or uncommon certainly experiences I ever had
Speaker 3: were in the presence of Dr George King. As you
Speaker 3: rightly mentioned, I had the opportunity to be his one
Speaker 3: of his personal assistants in the latter years of his life.
Speaker 3: What drew me there, what took me there, was my
Speaker 3: taking all all of this very seriously, more more seriously
Speaker 3: than the orthodox route, as you say in America through Life.
Speaker 3: Why I made that choice, as in me, because all
Speaker 3: of my sort of friends who are interesting now getting
Speaker 3: their own copies of my man saying, look what happened before,
Speaker 3: which is wonderful. And it's what's even more wonderful is
Speaker 3: the fact that we've remained friends throughout all of these years.
Speaker 3: But I know I didn't take the so called orthodox,
Speaker 3: conventional route through life. I was seeking a higher truth.
Speaker 3: And when I came across Dr George King and the
Speaker 3: Eterial Society, I put it first and foremost, and it
Speaker 3: culminated with me being, as they say, one of his
Speaker 3: personal assistants. And yes, I did have very when I
Speaker 3: say unusual, certainly unconventional in other words, sort of cosmic experiences,
Speaker 3: something that were you know, you could say not of this. Well,
Speaker 3: but in saying that, and this was a hallmark of
Speaker 3: doctor King. He was as down to earth as you
Speaker 3: could come. He was very down. His feet were on
Speaker 3: the ground. He wasn't here for party tricks. Some yoga masters,
Speaker 3: you know, they'll sort of do this. He George King
Speaker 3: could do party tricks. But we're not here for party
Speaker 3: It's more serious than party tricks.
Speaker 1: Sure, so, no levitation, no by location, no astro projection, just.
Speaker 3: Well it was the certainly was by location. I certainly
Speaker 3: didn't personally witness Levete, although I'm sure he could have
Speaker 3: done that. For your listeners, I really hope you'll read
Speaker 3: the book because Doctor George King, we understand, we certainly believe,
Speaker 3: was one of the three cosmic intelligences who took on
Speaker 3: human form for a very essential purpose. I mentioned that,
Speaker 3: you know Jesus and Buddha, but certainly Jesus was here. Yes,
Speaker 3: he taught, but he was actually here to perform a
Speaker 3: major cosmic manipulation, karmic manipulation. Dr George King and the
Speaker 3: other two avatars or adepts as we referred to them,
Speaker 3: who came to this earth were here to we talked
Speaker 3: about earlier on about evil magicians. They go to the
Speaker 3: lower astral realms. Yes, we have the higher realms, but
Speaker 3: there are lower astral realms. There are denizens of black magicians.
Speaker 3: And as we go into this new world, those intelligences
Speaker 3: so called cannot be allowed to exist. They're extraordinarily powerful.
Speaker 3: They've manipulated much of what plays out on the surface
Speaker 3: of this earth, including that, you could say, the crucifixion
Speaker 3: of Christ. And Doctor King as one of these three
Speaker 3: adicts or three intelligences ADTs, avatars from other worlds, came
Speaker 3: here for a very definite purpose to clean out the
Speaker 3: very worst of the lower astral realms, to free the chains,
Speaker 3: if you like, to have bound humanity to this ignorance.
Speaker 3: Because everything is changing, everything is being shifted. I've said
Speaker 3: enough to give a cue to reading far more about
Speaker 3: it in my book Maya Maya.
Speaker 1: So it's called Maya Maya.
Speaker 3: Maya maya as a soundscript word for illusion, yes, and
Speaker 3: maya as in quagmire. And it's the quagmire of illusion
Speaker 3: that we have existed in dating all the way back,
Speaker 3: if you like, to the so called garden of Eden.
Speaker 3: It's the ignorance of humanity. But it's being shifted, it's
Speaker 3: being changed. We are awaken. There's a great cosmic awakening
Speaker 3: that's going on. And you know, I try to sort
Speaker 3: of elaborate on that in the.
Speaker 1: Book Maya Meyer That makes perfect sense. I am hoping
Speaker 1: that so many people who are listening right now will
Speaker 1: go out and get the book because it sounds fascinating.
Speaker 1: But I am thrilled to plant my flag in the
Speaker 1: ground and clean. I am the first to buy the
Speaker 1: book the minute we hang up this call, because I
Speaker 1: am absolutely intrigued. So thank you so much for that,
Speaker 1: where can someone find it if they want to purchase it.
Speaker 3: You can also put another flag in the ground together
Speaker 3: with Karen, that you are holding this interview in the
Speaker 3: very first week that the book has been published. All right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it is, needless to say, available on Amazon, and the
Speaker 3: more people who will go and buy it to non Amazon,
Speaker 3: and the more people who will give it a rating.
Speaker 3: I don't think it necessarily has to be five stars.
Speaker 3: I'll accept five stars.
Speaker 1: But I mean, okay, fine, but that, as I.
Speaker 3: Understand, algorithms and everything else will have a bearing on
Speaker 3: how book distributors and all the rest of it pick
Speaker 3: up the book. But it is certainly available on Amazon,
Speaker 3: and you'll get it within a day or two.
Speaker 1: Wonderful. Well, we're going to make sure that we put
Speaker 1: a direct link in our show notes. So if you're
Speaker 1: interested in Maya Meyer, all you need to do is
Speaker 1: go to skepticmteposition dot com, go to his episode page,
Speaker 1: and you'll see the direct link laid out there in
Speaker 1: our show notes. It makes it super easy for you
Speaker 1: to access the book. And then if someone wanted to
Speaker 1: reach out to you to learn more about the Theory
Speaker 1: Society or just to know more about you. What's the
Speaker 1: best place for someone to do that.
Speaker 3: If you already want to know more about me. I
Speaker 3: do actually have my own website which is called set
Speaker 3: up of mysoul dot com. Well, but otherwise, go to
Speaker 3: a Theorious dot org, I mean the main website, to
Speaker 3: Theorist dot org or Dr George King dot org and
Speaker 3: you will find more about Dr George King and the
Speaker 3: Ethereas society.
Speaker 1: Well, I did go down a very deep rabbit hole
Speaker 1: when I started researching for this show, and I would
Speaker 1: urge anyone to look into it, because we literally, I
Speaker 1: mean to say, we just scratched the surface. It's not
Speaker 1: even giving it enough notice. There's so much about the
Speaker 1: Theory society that is so astounding and inspiring. I will
Speaker 1: say one of the first things I looked at was
Speaker 1: is the Theory Society a scam or a cult? Because
Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately there's a lot of folks out there
Speaker 1: who are trying to take advantage of people. And what
Speaker 1: I found, I'm thrilled to say, is none of the above.
Speaker 1: So I am grateful for you coming on the show
Speaker 1: and helping us to understand about the society, which I
Speaker 1: admittedly had never heard of. Before, but now I'm thrilled
Speaker 1: to know about and to give us a glimpse into
Speaker 1: that side of things. There's so much more I could
Speaker 1: have asked you, because I know that you really you
Speaker 1: really mix the scientific with the spiritual, which is right
Speaker 1: up my alley. But there's so much for you to
Speaker 1: explore and learn about the theory society. So if you're
Speaker 1: interested at all, we're going to put those links in
Speaker 1: our show notes as well so you can have access
Speaker 1: to those. So, Paul, any last words before we say goodbye.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad you asked me that, Will, and by
Speaker 3: asking me that excellent question, you've you put yourself on.
Speaker 4: Finally you've made the finish line you've made because the
Speaker 4: only thing that I that I would raise or question
Speaker 4: is why you don't have.
Speaker 3: To answer this, but why there is the word skeptic
Speaker 3: in your title, because I think that you are both
Speaker 3: wonderfully open to these much border concepts.
Speaker 1: Will, I will return the favor and say, that is
Speaker 1: an excellent question, Paul, and I will go ahead and
Speaker 1: answer because there are people who might be listening right
Speaker 1: now who may not be aware. When we first started
Speaker 1: the show, I was very much a skeptic. I asked
Speaker 1: those questions about, come on, were you high, how you
Speaker 1: been drinking? How do you know this stuff? How could
Speaker 1: it be possible? So I was always trying to find
Speaker 1: the way forward because I wanted to believe. I really
Speaker 1: truly wanted to know that this stuff was real. Over
Speaker 1: the course of the years of doing the show, I've
Speaker 1: very confident that there is no reason to be skeptical. However,
Speaker 1: those that are listening right now might be. So we
Speaker 1: feel there was a point where we're going to change
Speaker 1: the name of the show because we no longer fit. However,
Speaker 1: we talked about it and we felt no, no, we're
Speaker 1: going to keep it because now we're not the skeptic metaphysicians.
Speaker 1: Our audience is right, yeah, very good, And there is
Speaker 1: the answer to your excellent question.
Speaker 3: We all get the prize we request.
Speaker 1: You know what we talked about scarcity mentality. This is
Speaker 1: not the environment here. We are all about sharing the
Speaker 1: kudos and the wealth and the prizes that we all get.
Speaker 1: We all get first place. So Paul, thank you so
Speaker 1: so much. It was an absolute pleasure having you on
Speaker 1: the show, and hopefully we'll stay in touch.
Speaker 3: Likewise, thank you so very much for this conversation.
Speaker 1: And a huge thank you to you. We know that
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