WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.919 Karen. Yes, what would you say if I told you 2 00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:06.960 that there might be beings not from this Earth who 3 00:00:07.000 --> 00:00:10.919 are here specifically to help mankind create a better world. 4 00:00:11.279 --> 00:00:13.000 I would say, thank God, because we need all the 5 00:00:13.039 --> 00:00:13.439 help you can. 6 00:00:13.519 --> 00:00:15.880 Yeah, we certainly do, right. And what if I told 7 00:00:15.919 --> 00:00:17.800 you that there is a group of people that hold 8 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:20.160 these beings in the highest regard it and have even 9 00:00:20.239 --> 00:00:24.160 created a religion dedicated to spreading and acting on the 10 00:00:24.199 --> 00:00:26.800 teachings of advanced extraterrestrial beings. 11 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:29.600 Oh that sounds familiar, It does it? 12 00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:33.960 It does well. It just so happens that the Etheriist Society, 13 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:36.640 and I hope I'd said it somewhat correctly, is just 14 00:00:36.719 --> 00:00:40.200 such an organization. They say that these beings recognize the 15 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:44.320 extent of suffering on Earth, and they've made countless sacrifices 16 00:00:44.399 --> 00:00:45.520 in their mission to help us. 17 00:00:45.719 --> 00:00:46.000 Wow. 18 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:48.640 Yep. Now, the founder of this inspiring society was an 19 00:00:48.640 --> 00:00:52.520 Englishman named George King, who did so shortly after he 20 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:58.600 was contacted in London by an extraterrestrial intelligence known as Etherius. Sadly, 21 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:01.560 mister King has since passed away and we no longer 22 00:01:01.560 --> 00:01:06.239 have direct access to him. However, today we do have 23 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:09.959 the next best thing. Karen, mister King's personal assistant and 24 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:13.200 the director of the Theory Society since two thousand and one. 25 00:01:13.319 --> 00:01:15.680 This one is going to truly be eye opening. So 26 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:19.920 don't go anywhere because the skeptic musician starts. Now, my 27 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:22.760 name is Will, and I'm Karen, and unlike moulderin Scully, 28 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:25.840 want to believe. So we've embarked in a journey of discovery. 29 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:28.480 We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and 30 00:01:28.519 --> 00:01:29.359 metaphysical world. 31 00:01:29.400 --> 00:01:32.719 We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even 32 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:34.159 joined a coven of witches. 33 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:36.719 And wait, you joined a coven yep. 34 00:01:36.560 --> 00:01:39.400 All on the interests of finding something, anything that will 35 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:41.879 prove that there's something beyond this physical. 36 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:43.200 Three dimensional world we all live in. 37 00:01:43.400 --> 00:01:59.120 This is the skeptic metaphysicians. Hey there, I'm Will and 38 00:01:59.159 --> 00:02:01.519 I'm King, and today they we're diving into the cosmic. 39 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:04.840 The Etherorioist Society is a spiritual organization founded in the 40 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:08.199 mid nineteen fifties by doctor George King, who claimed to 41 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:11.919 have had a significant spiritual experience where he was contacted 42 00:02:11.919 --> 00:02:16.680 by extraterrestrial beings. Now the society combines elements of Eastern philosophy, 43 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:21.599 Western mysticism, and teachings related to cosmic or extraterrestrial beings, 44 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:26.479 emphasizing service to humanity, spiritual evolution, and the idea that 45 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:29.599 Earth is a living being. Now central to the Society's 46 00:02:29.599 --> 00:02:31.840 beliefs is that advanced beings from the other planets play 47 00:02:31.879 --> 00:02:36.280 an essential role in helping humanity through spiritual guidance. These beings, 48 00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:39.639 referred to as cosmic Masters, are believed to assist Earth 49 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:43.560 in its spiritual evolution and protect it from disasters. Today 50 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:47.039 were privileged to be accompanied by mister King's personal assistant 51 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:50.280 and the director of the Society, Paul Nugent, to share 52 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:52.840 with us the amazing experiences that it was to have 53 00:02:52.879 --> 00:02:56.719 lived and learned so much from this astounding religion's founder. 54 00:02:56.919 --> 00:02:58.319 Welcome to the show, Paul Nugents. 55 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:01.639 Well, thank you very much. Will and Karen and I 56 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:06.639 think you've distilled the Theorist Society extraordinarily well in that introduction. 57 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:10.319 The only thing that I would dare I say correct 58 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:14.599 is that I am not the director. I am a director. 59 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:19.240 We have several directors, and I was not the personal assistant. 60 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:21.280 I was a personal assistant. 61 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:23.280 There were three of us in the latter years of 62 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:26.080 his life. But anyway, I just wanted to clarify that. 63 00:03:26.159 --> 00:03:29.319 But otherwise, excellent to some action of the Etherist Society. 64 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:31.039 Well thank you that that means a lot to me. 65 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:33.199 It must be such. I mean, it is in thirty 66 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:36.120 five countries at the Society's insid you do need quite 67 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:39.159 a few people to help drive the message forward, I 68 00:03:39.159 --> 00:03:40.599 would assume, so it would make sense that there would 69 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:43.400 be more than one director, and mister King, being such 70 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:46.439 a big personality, would certainly need more than one assistant. 71 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:48.199 So we're glad that we have you here with us. 72 00:03:48.360 --> 00:03:50.280 It's great to be with you and to explain more 73 00:03:50.319 --> 00:03:55.240 about doctor King and the spiritual philosophy of the Etherist Society. 74 00:03:55.680 --> 00:04:00.080 It's fascinating because, honestly, until I started researching you, the 75 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:04.599 only religion that I have heard about that speaks about 76 00:04:04.680 --> 00:04:09.120 extraterrustrial beings I believe was with scientology, Right, That's what 77 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:09.759 I was thinking. 78 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:13.039 Well, I don't know if they do. I'm not sure. 79 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:16.879 I dially like the comparison. I often think that the 80 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:21.000 Ethereal Society is the opposite end of the lens to Scientology. 81 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:24.160 But that's not just sort of necessarily openly and publicly 82 00:04:24.519 --> 00:04:28.800 dismissed scientology. There are others, I mean, a star is one. 83 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:32.000 There have been one or two. But certainly the Assious 84 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:39.319 Society is the world's longest standing UFO organization. And we 85 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:41.560 don't just see it in terms of the nuts and 86 00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:44.639 bolts of UFOs, but we see the whole thing far 87 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:48.800 more seriously and far more importantly in a spiritual context. 88 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:53.600 To put the words UFO with spirituality, it's not usually 89 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:56.000 something that's put together except for that. We have heard 90 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:59.600 people say that extraterrestrials are here to help humanity and 91 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:02.000 things like that. But you take it very seriously, you 92 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:04.639 take it to the nth degree. What are the major 93 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:08.000 tenets of the religion? Because you do take this more 94 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:09.319 of as a way of life. 95 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:11.879 It's totally a way of life, it's a way of being. 96 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:16.800 I think in a way, you could more reasonably argue 97 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:20.480 that it's ridiculous for humanity to think that we are 98 00:05:20.959 --> 00:05:24.560 alone in the universe, you know. With the wonderful thing 99 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:27.920 about one of the wonderful things about science and technology, 100 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:31.480 particularly in recent decades, is that they've allowed us to 101 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:35.000 realize how small and tiny, and you could even say 102 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:41.000 insignificant we are in the universe. It literally is vast. 103 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:44.000 In fact, you know, I was having a conversation with 104 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:48.879 someone earlier this week. I'm led to understand it's extremely 105 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:52.560 difficult to believe, but it seems to be the science 106 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:58.319 that there are more stars, i e. Suns than there 107 00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:02.480 are grains of sand on all the beaches and in 108 00:06:02.600 --> 00:06:05.480 all the deserts on the surface of Earth. I mean, 109 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:09.360 it blows the mind. Wow. Yeah, And even to be 110 00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:13.399 making that comparison allows one to realize how small and 111 00:06:13.480 --> 00:06:17.800 insignificant we are. I often think that, you know, how 112 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:20.680 aware is the spider in the corner of this room 113 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:23.160 that it's in a room that's in a house, that's 114 00:06:23.199 --> 00:06:26.199 in a town, that's in a state, that's in a country, 115 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:29.800 that's in on a world, that's in a solar system 116 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:32.560 and a galaxy, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And 117 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:37.000 I think culturally and traditionally that's been very much our 118 00:06:37.079 --> 00:06:40.839 sort of very ego centric perspective on our place in 119 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:45.800 the cosmos. And I think that, you know, hopefully that 120 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:51.879 very sort of limited, narrow perspective is going to be broken. 121 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:56.079 And because I think that the realization of our true 122 00:06:56.160 --> 00:06:59.759 place in the cosmos are insignificance, and yet at the 123 00:06:59.800 --> 00:07:03.120 same time, the fact that we are in this cosmos, 124 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:06.959 we are a part of this incredible organism of the universe. 125 00:07:07.199 --> 00:07:12.319 We're a living aspect to it, hopefully will allow us 126 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:17.480 to fundamentally and profoundly change as human beings in our 127 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:21.040 understanding of ourselves, of each other, and what we are 128 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:22.480 collectively a part of. 129 00:07:22.839 --> 00:07:29.319 Oh well, you said a mouthful and in order to yes, no, 130 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:33.079 it's it's wonderful And I love the passion with which 131 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:37.920 you share this whole subject. You can tell that you 132 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:40.720 really it is your life, is your way of life, 133 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:43.920 which is wonderful to hear. But for the audience to 134 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:46.800 really truly understand what is we're talking about, first we 135 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:49.399 need to rewind it a little bit and talk about 136 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:52.040 George King. Can you tell us a little bit more 137 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:55.319 about doctor Kings. 138 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:56.480 The first contact exact that's. 139 00:07:56.399 --> 00:07:58.319 What I want to know, Yes, exactly. It give us 140 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:01.639 morphiage about that pivotal moment when doctor King was contacted 141 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:03.399 by the extratrustful being. 142 00:08:04.079 --> 00:08:07.040 Very very briefly, Doctor George King was born in England 143 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:12.759 in nineteen nineteen. Twenty years later, in nineteen thirty nine. Tragically, 144 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:17.040 the Second World War came along, and you could say 145 00:08:17.079 --> 00:08:19.839 a prime fighting age. He was thirty years old. But 146 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:24.680 he knew inherently that thou shalt not kill was a 147 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:28.480 law bigger than mankind. There was a truth, there was 148 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:31.680 a profundancy, there was a greatness in that all sentiment. 149 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:36.039 And so he became a conscientious objector, not that he 150 00:08:36.440 --> 00:08:41.559 couldn't recognize that Nazism was a terrible thing that needed 151 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:44.679 to be counted, but he wasn't willing to go and 152 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:48.240 kill fellow human beings for the sake of it. What 153 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:51.120 he did was he joined the fire Brigade in London, 154 00:08:51.440 --> 00:08:54.600 which subsequently went through what's known as the Blitz, which 155 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:58.120 was the bombing of civilians. And he saw that, he 156 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:03.480 witnessed that first hand, and the devastation and the madness 157 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:06.480 of that, the inhumanity of that, the craziness of that. 158 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:09.600 Why why, why? Who are we? What are we doing 159 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:13.559 to each other? And it led him to study. Coming 160 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:16.879 out of the Second World War, or perhaps probably more 161 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:20.039 likely during it, it led him to study and practice 162 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:24.159 various forms of yoga, and he did it very intensely. 163 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:26.879 He did it for up to eight hours a day 164 00:09:26.919 --> 00:09:31.200 over a ten year period. When you practice various forms 165 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:34.159 of yoga, he was using primarily what is known as 166 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:40.399 pranayama breathing exercises mantri yoga. When you do it that intensely, 167 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:44.360 it causes a force that we all have in the 168 00:09:44.399 --> 00:09:48.200 base of the spine called the Kundalini to rise through 169 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:52.519 a channel in the spine called the Sashumna channel. Open 170 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:55.600 the chakras or psychic centers that we all have in 171 00:09:55.600 --> 00:10:00.360 our aura, and you gradually bring this force up such 172 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:05.000 intensity he was eventually able to bring the Kundalini up 173 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:08.720 to the highest census, the Christ's Center and the Crown chakra. 174 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:12.559 When one's able to do that, one goes into a 175 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:17.240 state of somadic consciousness or cosmic consciousness. There have been 176 00:10:17.320 --> 00:10:20.240 various individuals throughout our past who've been able to do this. 177 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:23.120 It's very difficult to do it, it's very demanding, but 178 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:27.039 it's ultimately the goal for all of us. And George King, 179 00:10:27.080 --> 00:10:30.080 as he was then in his early to mid thirties, 180 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:35.799 was able to do this. And then one Saturday morning 181 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:38.480 in May of nineteen fifty four, we believe it was 182 00:10:38.519 --> 00:10:42.919 May the eighth of nineteen fifty four. He literally heard 183 00:10:42.960 --> 00:10:44.960 a voice, and he said it was as stark as 184 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:48.200 a gunshot going off. He heard a voice in his 185 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:52.480 small apartment in London, and the voice said, prepare yourself. 186 00:10:53.600 --> 00:11:00.639 You are to become the voice of interplanetary Parliament. Wow, exactly, 187 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:04.960 how exactly? He'd never heard of interplanetary parliament? 188 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:06.440 I mean, who has? 189 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:10.000 Yeah, exactly, who has? We haven't? We haven't. 190 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:10.360 We have. 191 00:11:10.519 --> 00:11:12.519 We're about of it, but we have. We're not aware 192 00:11:12.519 --> 00:11:15.159 of that we've had that. There's there's something much greater 193 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:19.000 going on, and something that is literally cosmic and divine 194 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:22.519 and truly magnificent in every sense of the world. He 195 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:24.559 was apparently he was washing dishes at the time he 196 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:28.600 dropped the dishes. All he knew with his yoga training 197 00:11:29.519 --> 00:11:32.440 was that this was no psychic apparition. What he heard 198 00:11:32.639 --> 00:11:36.559 was for real. He knew that he had been developing 199 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:40.360 and training himself for some kind of purpose. He, just 200 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:43.600 as I say, had never heard of interplanetary parliament. He 201 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:46.600 didn't know where the voice had come from, what it meant. 202 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:49.840 The people who he was able to ask, which probably 203 00:11:49.840 --> 00:11:53.039 weren't very many, all could give him no answer as 204 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:56.000 to what it had been so a week later he 205 00:11:56.080 --> 00:11:59.559 went back into meditation. He said, I am not leaving 206 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:04.720 this apartment until I understand what that contact was. And 207 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:08.879 there he was a yoga master quite well known or 208 00:12:08.919 --> 00:12:12.720 something was well known at the time from India, came 209 00:12:12.840 --> 00:12:17.679 through his locked door, came into his room, sat down 210 00:12:17.879 --> 00:12:24.759 opposite him, and explained what that communication had been, and 211 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:30.080 he gave George King various other yogi techniques that he 212 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:35.200 would need to adopt in order to gain rapport with 213 00:12:36.279 --> 00:12:42.919 these intelligences existing upon higher dimensions of the other planets 214 00:12:42.960 --> 00:12:47.039 within our solar system. The being who had made that statement, 215 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:51.120 prepare yourself. You are to become the voice of interplanetary 216 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:55.600 put goes by the name of A Serious. Hence we 217 00:12:55.720 --> 00:12:59.799 are the Etherious Society, and we understand that the Master 218 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:04.440 Serious is an intelligence living and has lived in thousands 219 00:13:04.759 --> 00:13:09.840 of years upon the higher dimensions of Venus. 220 00:13:10.200 --> 00:13:17.120 Oh wow, Okay, so in that last five words, you 221 00:13:17.279 --> 00:13:20.919 just open up a whole can of worms. The extraterrestrial 222 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:25.440 being known as a theorists lived in the higher dimensions 223 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:31.000 of Venus. Oh wow, where do I go? There's so 224 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:33.360 many places to go? Are you aware of the CE 225 00:13:33.399 --> 00:13:37.759 five movement? No, I'm not okay. So the CE five 226 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:42.840 movement is a movement that was formed while back. It 227 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:46.639 stands for close Encounters of the fifth kind. And basically 228 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:48.720 what they do is they go out in the field 229 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:53.840 and they consciously call extraterrestrial beings or UFOs to them 230 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:56.399 because they feel, just like you, that they are here 231 00:13:56.440 --> 00:13:57.440 to help humanity. 232 00:13:57.879 --> 00:13:58.000 Right. 233 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:00.759 And apparently I think for the most part they see 234 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:03.600 lights in the skies and things like that. Occasionally they'll 235 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:08.720 get visitations and things. But from my understanding, the communication 236 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:12.440 that you have, or that Etherial Society members have, it's 237 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:14.960 a little bit less direct, is act fair to saying. 238 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:17.440 A little bit less you mean, see five is a 239 00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:21.399 little bit less direct than the communication which doctor King had. 240 00:14:21.799 --> 00:14:24.679 Did he he didn't see a being in front of him? Right, 241 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:26.600 he channeled, he heard, he. 242 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:29.039 Has done, he did do, but it's just on that 243 00:14:29.080 --> 00:14:30.559 particular occasion he didn't. 244 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:32.720 Okay, But you. 245 00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:36.279 See, a fundamental concept of all life, not just the 246 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:39.320 rest your life. A principle of certainly of the Etherist Society, 247 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:43.159 but not solely the etherisciety, by any stretch of the imagination, 248 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:46.679 is the law of karma. I mean, we would say 249 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:50.480 that even Christ taught the law of karma as you sow, 250 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:54.799 so shall you read? The Lord Buddha stated, it is 251 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:58.759 action and reaction or opposite and equal to my way 252 00:14:58.799 --> 00:15:01.840 of thinking. I mean, I fully accept the law of karma. 253 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:05.279 But to my way of thinking, the law of karma 254 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:11.399 makes no sense without the reciprocal law of reincarnation. In 255 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:15.159 other words, it carries over what we sow, what we 256 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:18.480 reap in one life, carries over to the next life. 257 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:22.639 All with the actual fundamental purpose of us raising gondalinis 258 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:25.600 that we're going to tain cosmic consciousness. But where do 259 00:15:25.720 --> 00:15:29.960 we go in that time between lives when we die 260 00:15:30.399 --> 00:15:34.720 awaiting reincarnation. Where do we go? We go to another sphere, 261 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:39.039 another realm, another dimension if you like, around this Earth, 262 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:43.000 and depending on our comic pattern on Earth, we have 263 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:46.279 both higher realms of varying degree, but we also have 264 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:50.919 lower realms of varying degree. And that concept is the 265 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:54.080 same on the other planets, except they don't have lower 266 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:57.200 realms because they don't have so to speak, shall we say, 267 00:15:57.240 --> 00:16:02.519 negative karma. It's all a higher dimension. So when we 268 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:05.320 go to Venus, yes, we're going to the physical realm 269 00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:09.200 of Venus. These intelligences are not existing on that realm. 270 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:13.559 They are on a higher level of frequency, which is 271 00:16:13.600 --> 00:16:16.679 in that sense all physical to all intents and purposes, 272 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:19.120 but it's not the same. So that is what we're 273 00:16:19.159 --> 00:16:22.639 talking about in terms of other dimensions of the other 274 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:25.120 planets and the master of theori Us. We believe that 275 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:30.559 Jesus and bud Are both came from Venus. So what 276 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:31.000 are your. 277 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:35.600 Thoughts on when we die, do we become these ethereal 278 00:16:35.840 --> 00:16:41.279 creatures or beings or are they also kind of waiting 279 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:43.600 for them to get to the next level. 280 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:45.840 When we die. I think we're essentially just as we 281 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:48.879 are here on Earth. We just find ourselves in a 282 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:54.320 different dimension according to the whole frequency that we've created. 283 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:58.320 While in this incarnation, I think we're more awakened. I mean, 284 00:16:58.360 --> 00:17:00.879 I had a very remarkable experience with my own brother 285 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:03.840 when he died literally a couple of years ago, very sadly, 286 00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:08.640 very tragically, and very unexpectedly. I had this communication with 287 00:17:08.680 --> 00:17:13.480 my brother who found himself on another well, actually between realms. 288 00:17:13.759 --> 00:17:16.920 He didn't even know he died, poor Chap, and he 289 00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:21.039 was amazed to find that he was, to all intents 290 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:24.640 and purposes, still alive. He just wasn't in his physical body. 291 00:17:25.480 --> 00:17:29.160 And I think that's how it is until we adjust 292 00:17:29.839 --> 00:17:34.599 to where we are, and then at the right comic time, 293 00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:40.440 we will take on once again human form and go 294 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:44.400 through this whole rather one might say, rather tedious and 295 00:17:44.519 --> 00:17:46.319 slow process. 296 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:48.640 It's almost like we come here and then some people 297 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:50.960 believe in soil contracts, some don't. But we come here 298 00:17:51.480 --> 00:17:53.880 and if there's this karma from the past, it's like 299 00:17:54.039 --> 00:17:56.400 the whole time we're here, we're trying to leave here. 300 00:17:58.079 --> 00:18:01.640 Yeah, it's almost like a vicious When we're here, we 301 00:18:01.680 --> 00:18:02.720 can't wait to go there. 302 00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:04.720 So we're here to learn everything to get back right. 303 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:06.319 But then when we're there, we can't wait to get here, 304 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:08.079 so we getting to have the human experience. 305 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:12.079 Well, we are here to leave here. Our primary purpose 306 00:18:12.200 --> 00:18:16.359 is to leave here. Christ demonstrated it to us. The 307 00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:18.759 only way you're going to actually leave is through ascension. 308 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:22.759 We are here to attain ascension. It's a lesson and 309 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:26.720 a demonstration for every single one of us. The question 310 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:30.640 is how do you get there? How do you get there? 311 00:18:31.039 --> 00:18:34.519 And it's not just a matter of wishful thinking. I 312 00:18:34.559 --> 00:18:35.680 wish it was, but. 313 00:18:36.079 --> 00:18:38.640 No, it isn't I'd be there by now if that 314 00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:39.200 was the case. 315 00:18:39.880 --> 00:18:43.480 Many times, exactly know, it's a process. It is a 316 00:18:43.559 --> 00:18:47.000 yoga process, you could say, but it's a process of realization. 317 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:51.079 It's a process of realizing who and what we really 318 00:18:51.160 --> 00:18:57.880 are in that divine cosmic sense. And that realization inevitably 319 00:18:57.960 --> 00:18:59.880 brings about a sensation of love. 320 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:02.839 When one truth it begins to realize that I am, 321 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:05.400 that I'm a part of this, that I exist in 322 00:19:05.440 --> 00:19:11.079 the wholeness of everything, instinctively and naturally generates a sensation 323 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:11.680 of love. 324 00:19:12.359 --> 00:19:17.240 Love leads to service. Love is care. You care. You 325 00:19:17.400 --> 00:19:20.079 care about everything, You care about the state of the world, 326 00:19:20.119 --> 00:19:23.720 you care about environment, you care about cruelty, You care 327 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:28.279 literally about everything in a very sort of wholesome, pure way, 328 00:19:28.880 --> 00:19:32.279 and it leads you to serve, to want to serve. 329 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:36.000 It has been demonstrated by every single master who's ever 330 00:19:36.039 --> 00:19:39.599 come to this earth. You start to serve because you 331 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:45.759 realize the preciousness and the sacredness literally of not only everything, 332 00:19:46.200 --> 00:19:49.839 but of every single moment. And that is a path 333 00:19:49.960 --> 00:19:54.720 towards enlightenment. And that path towards enlightenment is a path 334 00:19:54.759 --> 00:19:59.880 towards cosmic consciousness. And when we can attain cosmic consciousness, liters, 335 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:04.519 it will then we will ascend, and then we will 336 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:07.680 leave up. But you see, even not everybody who has 337 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:11.279 attained cosmic consciousness necessarily a sense. That's why you have 338 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:14.839 what's called the ascended masters, who actually choose to stay 339 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:19.440 here to help illumin humanity. 340 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:23.440 And some people believe that Jesus and Buddha were just 341 00:20:23.640 --> 00:20:26.200 such ascended masters that they stayed behind. 342 00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:28.720 Maybe they do, and I'm not here to sort of 343 00:20:28.880 --> 00:20:32.559 argue against that. In the etherious society, we believe they 344 00:20:32.559 --> 00:20:37.079 were what's actually called avatars, as Shari Krishna was an avatar. 345 00:20:37.640 --> 00:20:43.200 An avatar is an intelligence who has come literally from elsewhere, 346 00:20:43.440 --> 00:20:45.880 we would say, in the higher realms of another world, 347 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:49.720 another planet within our own solar system, who's come here 348 00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:53.920 to teach and struct. Christiana taught us the whole principles 349 00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:58.079 of yoga. Buddha taught us the wonderful part of compassion, 350 00:20:58.200 --> 00:21:01.759 as did Jesus. Love and service. We and the theater said, 351 00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:06.119 he wouldn't say that's necessarily actually been their primary role. 352 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:10.359 We would say that Jesus came here to perform an outstanding, 353 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:15.759 an essential calmic manipulation that averted a catastrophe upon Earth 354 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:21.079 at that time. But he obviously did teach us how 355 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:25.519 we should rightfully be living, and had we adopted those teachings, 356 00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:28.079 or the teachings of but Orshary Kushner, we would be 357 00:21:28.119 --> 00:21:31.279 living in a very different world. Unfortunately we tend to 358 00:21:31.319 --> 00:21:33.640 sort of dismiss them too easily. 359 00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:36.480 So in all of your work with the society, have 360 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:38.000 you ever had contact? 361 00:21:39.279 --> 00:21:44.160 I haven't had personal contact. No, I haven't, because again 362 00:21:44.559 --> 00:21:49.599 you see, doctor King described the transmissions he received in 363 00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:51.960 a way a little bit similar to a radio set, 364 00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:55.920 which is the mind. And you know, we're all capable 365 00:21:55.960 --> 00:21:58.680 of receiving you know, we get we can have telepathic 366 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:02.160 thoughts or whatever. We all receive thoughts with impulses, and 367 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:06.759 we put out thoughts, et cetera. If we were to 368 00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:10.880 gain mastery through the process of yoga, then we would 369 00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:14.440 have control over the mind that would allow us to 370 00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:18.799 become a very finely tuned radio set, which is what 371 00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:23.680 he developed. And because he had such a finely tuned mind, 372 00:22:24.319 --> 00:22:28.680 through the experience of some ardic consciousness, he was able 373 00:22:28.759 --> 00:22:34.480 to connect, if you like, with the mind mind belt 374 00:22:35.039 --> 00:22:39.039 of those beings on the highest spheres. Actually not just 375 00:22:39.079 --> 00:22:43.240 on other planets, but also on our own world. I 376 00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:48.039 am too dumbed down. I'm afraid I'm too ordinary and 377 00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:49.559 I'm too human to attract. 378 00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:52.759 I think you're not giving yourself enough credit, Paula. 379 00:22:55.559 --> 00:22:57.920 Now, if you haven't had this contact, because a lot 380 00:22:57.920 --> 00:23:00.440 of people they you know, seeing is believing. What is 381 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:03.960 it that sensed it for you, that made you believe 382 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:07.240 this is true and decide to be involved. 383 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:10.960 That's a very good question, Karen. When I came across 384 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:15.000 the Etherist Society in the sort of early nineteen eighties, 385 00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:20.599 I had recently read the Four Gospels. I knew there 386 00:23:20.680 --> 00:23:23.000 was something missing in my life. I didn't know where 387 00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:26.200 to turn or what to do. I did have a Bible, 388 00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:28.920 having been raised, you know, I'm English, were in a 389 00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:31.839 church of England, had a Bible, and I read the 390 00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:36.000 Four Gospels and it resonated with me very very seriously. 391 00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:40.599 I felt and knew intuitively that here is someone who 392 00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:44.119 actually understands how we should be living our life. However, 393 00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:47.000 I was one of the colleagues from work was a 394 00:23:47.039 --> 00:23:52.640 member of this organization called the Etherist Society, and my 395 00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:56.480 boss was a wonderful mentor as well. He was studying 396 00:23:56.759 --> 00:24:00.920 Eastern philosophy at a school in London which I also attended, 397 00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:04.440 which opened me to the concepts of calma and reincarnation, etc. 398 00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:10.720 But anyway, when I came to the Ethereoust Society, I 399 00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:14.920 began to attend their services on a Sunday morning, and 400 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:18.920 every Sunday service. We still do this, I'm sure will 401 00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:21.680