1
00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:17,440
Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back for a very special Independence

2
00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:22,480
Day celebration. Shirly Podcast episode Jason, do you know the

3
00:00:22,559 --> 00:00:26,000
date that the Declaration of Independence was ratified?

4
00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,280
Speaker 2: How about July fourth, seventeen seventy six.

5
00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, wrong answer. I'm sorry, that isn't incorrect. No, there

6
00:00:33,359 --> 00:00:36,079
was a big fight leading up to the declaration of independence.

7
00:00:36,079 --> 00:00:39,520
I mean we had thirteen colonies, some were for voting

8
00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,880
for independence, somewhere against it. There was a big fight.

9
00:00:42,359 --> 00:00:46,560
But it was on July second, today, the day of

10
00:00:46,759 --> 00:00:52,000
this podcast, July second, that it was actually some colonies

11
00:00:52,039 --> 00:00:55,359
to switch their position. South Carolina was like, nope, we're

12
00:00:55,359 --> 00:00:59,799
gonna vote for independence, and so on July second, seventeen

13
00:00:59,799 --> 00:01:04,799
seventy six, that was the day that independence was adopted

14
00:01:04,879 --> 00:01:09,079
by twelve affirmative votes and one abstention. They formally said

15
00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,280
we are going to sever our political ties with Great Britain.

16
00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,920
As a matter of fact, John Adams wrote to his

17
00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,319
wife the following day and predicted that July second would

18
00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:24,599
become a great American holiday. It is only because the

19
00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,840
people didn't know until it was formally adopted two days

20
00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,840
later on July fourth, that that became what we now

21
00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,480
celebrate as our Independence Day, but it was actually adopted

22
00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,159
two days before today today in celebrate July.

23
00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:39,879
Speaker 2: Happy July second.

24
00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, happy July second. You got your fireworks ready to go?

25
00:01:42,599 --> 00:01:44,319
Speaker 2: I'm ready to blow up some crap.

26
00:01:44,439 --> 00:01:46,599
Speaker 1: As the as the Bridge call it the Rebellion Day.

27
00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,560
I don't so. I am here today not to talk

28
00:01:50,599 --> 00:01:53,519
to you about the independence of the United States, but

29
00:01:53,599 --> 00:01:57,000
to just bring you, guys a special episode. This is

30
00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,280
a special edition episode. We have a great Patreon family.

31
00:02:01,519 --> 00:02:03,359
If you guys are interested in becoming a part of

32
00:02:03,359 --> 00:02:05,439
our Patreon family, all you have to do is go

33
00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,520
to patreon dot com slash Shirley Podcast. For as little

34
00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,039
as five bucks a month, you get access to all

35
00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,599
of our special Patreon episodes where we cover one hit

36
00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,960
wonders and other kind of novelty songs. You even managed

37
00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,639
to sneak Mariah Carrey in there on me, which is

38
00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,360
none too happy about, but it's still a great episode.

39
00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:24,680
It is.

40
00:02:25,439 --> 00:02:29,319
Speaker 3: And every every song has a story. Every song has

41
00:02:29,319 --> 00:02:31,400
a story that's right, and we like telling those stories.

42
00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,280
That's what I'm here to do today is tell a story.

43
00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,360
What we've started doing on some of these Patreon episodes

44
00:02:37,479 --> 00:02:40,840
is we you started this, You're like, Okay, d I've

45
00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,199
got a song that I'm going to tell you about

46
00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:43,599
and you have to try to guess what it is.

47
00:02:44,199 --> 00:02:46,199
And it's kind of the way we do our top fives,

48
00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,520
you know, we lead it in. And that's what I'm

49
00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,919
gonna do with today's episode. I'm going to talk to

50
00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:55,280
you about an American musician who is a chart topping

51
00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,520
musician and is responsible for one of the most iconic

52
00:02:59,599 --> 00:03:03,319
records in all of movie history, and he got no

53
00:03:03,439 --> 00:03:05,680
credit for it. As a matter of fact, I would

54
00:03:05,759 --> 00:03:09,159
venture to say that ninety nine percent of the people

55
00:03:09,159 --> 00:03:12,199
who are familiar with this recording are not familiar with

56
00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,759
who recorded it. And it is a great story. And

57
00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,240
it turns out it's a guy from Oklahoma right here

58
00:03:18,319 --> 00:03:19,039
where we are.

59
00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:30,479
Speaker 1: All right, you bekaya? It was nineteen fifty one. Shelby

60
00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:35,080
stood anxiously at the Warner Brothers recording studio, not sure

61
00:03:35,319 --> 00:03:38,560
about what was going to happen next. He had only

62
00:03:38,599 --> 00:03:41,960
recently moved to California in hopes of making it big,

63
00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,280
and so far he hadn't had a whole lot of success.

64
00:03:47,199 --> 00:03:49,599
He was far from home on his second marriage and

65
00:03:49,639 --> 00:03:51,800
had a young boy. He had grown to a door

66
00:03:52,319 --> 00:03:56,759
depending on him. But little did he know the profound

67
00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:03,000
impact that this upcoming recording session would have. One hundred

68
00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:07,039
years ago, the population of Eric, Oklahoma was nine hundred

69
00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,240
and seventy one, which is about thirty eight more than

70
00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:16,319
its population is today, and in April of nineteen twenty one,

71
00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:22,759
that population increased by one when Bill and Aura welcomed

72
00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,480
their third son and the World. Shelby would go on

73
00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,079
to learn horse riding and fiddle playing from Bill and

74
00:04:30,199 --> 00:04:33,120
so from a young age he would ride in rodeos,

75
00:04:33,199 --> 00:04:36,879
and at fifteen he formed a band called the plain

76
00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:42,480
View Melody Boys, who would periodically play on Station KASA

77
00:04:42,639 --> 00:04:47,759
in Elk City, Oklahoma. When Shelby was only nineteen, he

78
00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:52,439
married his first wife, Melva Miller, herself only seventeen at

79
00:04:52,439 --> 00:04:57,160
the time. Shelby became close with Melva's young cousin, Roger,

80
00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,319
taught him how to play the guitar and bought his

81
00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,519
first fiddle. Roger Miller would grow up to become a

82
00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,439
successful country musician himself. You probably know his song King

83
00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:14,720
of the Road Pause, which was a number one Hot

84
00:05:14,759 --> 00:05:18,000
Country single and reached number four on the Hot one hundred.

85
00:05:18,959 --> 00:05:22,600
But this seed that shall be planted would not be

86
00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,240
the biggest mark he would make on the world of entertainment.

87
00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,240
Though he tried to enlist for World War Two, his

88
00:05:29,399 --> 00:05:33,079
rodeo injuries kept him out of the military, so instead

89
00:05:33,199 --> 00:05:36,439
he worked as a welder for oil drillers. Then in

90
00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,959
nineteen forty six, at the encouragement of Ernest tub he

91
00:05:41,079 --> 00:05:46,040
decided to leave the oil field, leave Oklahoma and pursue

92
00:05:46,079 --> 00:05:50,600
his love of music. He recorded his first single, moved

93
00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,319
to Fort Worth, Texas, and for three years he toured

94
00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:59,279
the South, but was ultimately unable to hit it big.

95
00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,279
So in nineteen fifty he brought his second wife, Edna

96
00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,680
and her young son Gary to Hollywood in hopes of

97
00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:13,399
establishing himself as an actor or a singer. But after

98
00:06:13,439 --> 00:06:16,160
a year he had only had a handful of parts,

99
00:06:16,759 --> 00:06:21,120
mostly uncredited, and that included the movie he was about

100
00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,800
to record for, uncredited for the part he played in

101
00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,319
the movie, and uncredited for his part in the audio

102
00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:35,240
track that he was about to record, Yes, uncredited for

103
00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,839
the part that would become one of the most iconic

104
00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:43,879
recordings in history. Now. As it turned out, Shelby would

105
00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,519
ultimately be a success as a singer and as an actor.

106
00:06:48,079 --> 00:06:50,920
Just a year later, in nineteen fifty two, he would

107
00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,879
land his first big role in the movie High Noon

108
00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,839
as Ben Miller, one of the gang who would face

109
00:06:57,879 --> 00:07:02,279
off against Gary Cooper. Year after that, two songs that

110
00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,040
he had written would become hits for Teresa Brewer and

111
00:07:05,079 --> 00:07:09,720
Hank Snow. Then, in nineteen fifty eight, he had two

112
00:07:10,279 --> 00:07:14,720
career making events. First, he was cast as Peter Nolan

113
00:07:14,759 --> 00:07:18,120
in the series Rawhide, a role he would play for

114
00:07:18,199 --> 00:07:23,079
the next eight years. Second was that he had recorded

115
00:07:23,079 --> 00:07:26,879
a song that would be his biggest chart topper, going

116
00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,920
gold in just three weeks and hitting number one on

117
00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,759
the Hot one hundred. The song it was a one eyed,

118
00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:40,399
one horn flying tirple people lead one Horn. It has

119
00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,879
sold well over one hundred million copies to date, but

120
00:07:44,079 --> 00:07:48,759
I am saying today that his uncredited contribution to one

121
00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:54,560
of his earliest movies surpasses even this in its impact

122
00:07:54,759 --> 00:07:58,360
on the entertainment world. His acting career didn't stop with

123
00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,759
Rawhide either. He was in more than sixty movies and

124
00:08:01,839 --> 00:08:05,720
television roles, including The War Wagon with John Wayne, The

125
00:08:05,759 --> 00:08:10,240
Outlaw Josie Wales with Clint Eastwood, Silverado with Kevin Klein,

126
00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:15,519
Kevin Costner and Danny Glover and Hoosiers, where he was

127
00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,720
literally sitting next to Gene Hackman on the bench helping

128
00:08:19,839 --> 00:08:23,480
coach the team. He was also one of the original

129
00:08:23,519 --> 00:08:27,680
cast members of Heehaw, which he wrote the theme for.

130
00:08:28,199 --> 00:08:30,399
He also had quite a bit of success as a

131
00:08:30,439 --> 00:08:34,120
recording artist as well. He had several more gold records.

132
00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:37,080
He won a CMA in nineteen sixty eight Songwriter of

133
00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,279
the Year in nineteen ninety two. He also won the

134
00:08:40,279 --> 00:08:44,720
Western Heritage Award for nine years in a row for

135
00:08:44,759 --> 00:08:49,480
his television work. But I maintain it was his nineteen

136
00:08:49,799 --> 00:08:55,000
fifty one recording that will be his most lasting legacy,

137
00:08:55,639 --> 00:09:00,960
and most people don't even know he was the main responsible.

138
00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:07,480
So what was Shelby Woolley who went by SHEB about

139
00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,279
to record on that faithful day? Well, he was just

140
00:09:11,399 --> 00:09:13,960
one of a handful of actors they had called back

141
00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,919
that day to do some recording they needed to finish

142
00:09:17,039 --> 00:09:21,639
up the movie Distant Drums. Sheb did six different takes

143
00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,320
and the last three ended up in the movie. Then

144
00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,919
all six takes went into the Warner Brothers vault, only

145
00:09:29,039 --> 00:09:31,759
to be used again in nineteen fifty two and in

146
00:09:31,879 --> 00:09:36,159
nineteen fifty three, three times in nineteen fifty four, including

147
00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,000
the Judy Garland version of A Star Is Born twice

148
00:09:40,159 --> 00:09:43,480
in fifty five, and again and again over and over

149
00:09:43,639 --> 00:09:52,000
for the next twenty years. But nobody noticed. Nobody except

150
00:09:52,399 --> 00:09:57,240
a young film production grad student at USC named Ben.

151
00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,320
In his studies, Ben had known noticed Seb's work and

152
00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,720
was impressed, so impressed that he and his buddy Richard

153
00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,720
would record it from A Star As Born just to

154
00:10:08,759 --> 00:10:12,200
put it in their nineteen seventy four student film, The

155
00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,840
Scarlet Blade. Ben would graduate the next year, and then

156
00:10:16,879 --> 00:10:19,960
two years after that he would get his first credited

157
00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,559
job as a sound designer. This job allowed him to

158
00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,440
do research in several sound libraries, including the one at

159
00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:33,200
Warner Brothers, where he was able to find Seb's original recordings,

160
00:10:33,399 --> 00:10:37,799
and it was this discovery that led to its proliferation

161
00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,519
in the nineteen eighties, nineties and on into the twenty

162
00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,799
first century. His friend Richard used it in his movies

163
00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:51,000
as well, including Poltergeist, Batman, Returns, Planet of the Apes,

164
00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:55,799
and Madagascar. Other sound editors became aware of Schev's recordings

165
00:10:55,799 --> 00:10:58,960
and used it in their films as well. Disney films

166
00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,720
Spielberg films. Joe Dante has used it in at least

167
00:11:02,759 --> 00:11:06,120
five of his films. Peter Jackson was so impressed that

168
00:11:06,159 --> 00:11:09,879
he deliberately cranked the volume when Sheb's voice was used

169
00:11:09,879 --> 00:11:14,120
in Lord of the Rings. And when Quentin Tarantino learned

170
00:11:14,159 --> 00:11:17,279
the significance of this recording while it was being put

171
00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,320
into Reservoir Dogs, he called a break and had his

172
00:11:21,519 --> 00:11:25,200
sound crew come and listen to its first appearance way

173
00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:31,200
back in Distant Drums. In fact, since Ben discovered Sheb's

174
00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:36,679
recordings back in nineteen seventy seven while finding sounds for

175
00:11:36,759 --> 00:11:42,759
a new movie called Star Wars, Sheb's voice has been

176
00:11:42,919 --> 00:11:48,240
used in over one hundred and thirty films and television episodes,

177
00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:54,600
and Ben Burt found it in a canister marked quote

178
00:11:55,399 --> 00:12:02,440
man getting bit by an alligator and he screams because

179
00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:09,559
it wasn't Shebb's singing voice, but his screaming voice that

180
00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:14,159
he recorded on that faithful day back in nineteen fifty one.

181
00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:20,080
And though Sheb played Private jessup in Distant Drums, it

182
00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,679
was a memorable moment in a film two years later

183
00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:29,559
called The Charge at Feather River, where Ben Bert first

184
00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:34,519
heard Sheb's scream as another young private is shot in

185
00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:41,600
the leg a young private named Willhelm, which is why,

186
00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,200
if you haven't guessed it already, he named it the

187
00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:53,120
Wilhelm Scream, and that is the story as best I

188
00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:53,559
can tell.

189
00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,679
Speaker 2: Nice, that's awesome.

190
00:12:55,799 --> 00:12:56,600
Speaker 1: That's awesome.

191
00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,919
Speaker 2: I know it from Star Wars for sure, Return of

192
00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,679
the Jedi for sure, Indiana Jones, Indiana Raiders, a little

193
00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,320
lost star, without a doubt.

194
00:13:07,399 --> 00:13:08,120
Speaker 1: It's iconic.

195
00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,320
Speaker 2: That's good man, you did some research on that.

196
00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,000
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, it was just crazy when you find

197
00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,799
out that the guy responsible for the one eyed, one horn,

198
00:13:15,879 --> 00:13:19,799
flying purple people eater and the themed Hehaw is the

199
00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,360
guy who did the Wilhelm screen.

200
00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,440
Speaker 2: That's incredible. It's incredible. I'm gonna have to go back

201
00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:25,480
and watch Hoosias just to.

202
00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:26,320
Speaker 1: Figure this guy out.

203
00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:32,879
Speaker 2: So, okay, guys, that's gonna be it for our special episode.

204
00:13:32,919 --> 00:13:34,919
But we hope you'll have a great Fourth of July

205
00:13:35,039 --> 00:13:37,440
with your family, a safe and fun fourth of July

206
00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,039
celebrating independence. But join us back here next week. D

207
00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,080
We're gonna have the top five songs of nineteen seventy nine.

208
00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,600
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we seventy eight was fantastic. I can't

209
00:13:53,639 --> 00:13:55,399
wait to see what seventy nine brings us.

210
00:13:55,519 --> 00:13:57,080
Speaker 2: A lot of great pop songs, a lot of great

211
00:13:57,159 --> 00:13:59,799
rock from that era, got some country, got some disco.

212
00:14:00,039 --> 00:14:02,120
It's gonna be fun. Come on back for that. We'll

213
00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:12,240
see you back here next week. We ought to do

214
00:14:12,279 --> 00:14:17,159
our impressions, oh man,