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Speaker 1: On this Tuesday, February eleventh, twenty twenty five, President Trump
Speaker 1: says us taking control of Gaza will bring peace in
Speaker 1: the Middle East. He was with the King of Jordan
Speaker 1: at the White House today said the Gaza Strip is
Speaker 1: a warn torn region and Palestinians will be moved what
Speaker 1: he called a safer place. He had put the onus
Speaker 1: on Jordan, while King Abdullah today pledge to take in
Speaker 1: two thousand Palestinian children. It seems like that was the
Speaker 1: happy medium they decided upon.
Speaker 2: Today in Washington, another big international story, the Trump administration
Speaker 2: was able to secure the release of Mark Fogel, an
Speaker 2: American who's been held in Russia for about three years,
Speaker 2: in what they describe as an exchange. Still getting the
Speaker 2: details on this, but this deal to release Fogel was
Speaker 2: negotiated by Trump by Special Envoy for the Middle East
Speaker 2: Steve Whitcoff and some of the president's advisors.
Speaker 3: At least according to a statement from the National Security.
Speaker 2: Advisor Mike Waltz didn't give any details about what the
Speaker 2: exchange is, other than to say that it was a
Speaker 2: show of good faith from the Russians and a sign
Speaker 2: that we were moving in the right direction to end
Speaker 2: the brutal and terrible war in Ukraine. Witkoff actually went
Speaker 2: to Russia to bring back Mark Fogel. No known high
Speaker 2: level US travel to Russia since the start of the
Speaker 2: Ukraine War in February of twenty two, so they have
Speaker 2: already started releasing some pictures of Mark Fogel on an
Speaker 2: airplane on his way back to the United States. He's
Speaker 2: an American teacher who was detained there for apparently having
Speaker 2: drugs in his suitcase at an airport. He claimed that
Speaker 2: they were medical.
Speaker 3: It was a prescription for marijuana. They don't care in Russia.
Speaker 4: That's not what they But what else is going on?
Speaker 1: Time four?
Speaker 3: What's happening?
Speaker 4: A serious storm is on the way to us.
Speaker 1: Here in southern California, three days of rain expected to
Speaker 1: begin tomorrow. Heaviest rain will likely arrive early Thursday. Flash
Speaker 1: floodwatch goes into effect in the Burn areas. The weather
Speaker 1: system expected to bring gusty winds, mountains, snow. They say
Speaker 1: have an evacuation plan ready, sign up for weather alerts
Speaker 1: if you're in those vulnerable areas.
Speaker 2: Because of the vulnerable areas, we will be paying attention
Speaker 2: a lot to the real estate markets and the palisades
Speaker 2: in the Altadena area. According to realtor dot com, one
Speaker 2: lot where a home used to stand in the Pacific
Speaker 2: Palisades before it was destroyed, has sold for about a
Speaker 2: million dollars just the lot, nine hundred square foot property
Speaker 2: located on Avenue to de La Herradura, listed for just
Speaker 2: under a million dollars on January sixteenth, a week it
Speaker 2: was listed a week after the fire.
Speaker 1: They people are swooping in probably all cash to rebuild
Speaker 1: and sell or just.
Speaker 4: Rebuild.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're seeing a lot of foreign money sweeping
Speaker 1: into real estate markets.
Speaker 4: And this is what you're going to see.
Speaker 1: Alta Dina and there was a lot on West Calaveras
Speaker 1: Street used to be a rental property was sold one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars over the asking price, all cash, for
Speaker 1: five point fifty. There are several signs up in yards
Speaker 1: in Altadena that say Altadena not for sale that way.
Speaker 1: They want their community back, They don't want a whole
Speaker 1: new population to come in and swoop over and take
Speaker 1: over what Altatina was.
Speaker 3: And you're going to see this I think.
Speaker 2: I mean, whether it's Altadina or Palisades, obviously the prices
Speaker 2: are going to be different, but you're going to have
Speaker 2: multiple offers. The one in Palisades they said they had
Speaker 2: seventy or eighty inquiries into a burned out lot.
Speaker 4: That's can look very different for.
Speaker 3: Almost a million.
Speaker 2: San Bernardino County Sheriff's departments asking for help finding couple
Speaker 2: of robbers who broke into a home in Hesperia tied
Speaker 2: up their residents before they stole cash and took off.
Speaker 3: This was a few nights ago.
Speaker 2: They tied up the family, they stole an undisclosed amount
Speaker 2: of cash. Victims eventually freed themselves. Were able to call
Speaker 2: nine one one, but did not provide any description of
Speaker 2: the robbers or of the vehicle.
Speaker 1: Gulf of America has arrived on Google Maps. Of course,
Speaker 1: Trump renaming the Gulf of Mexico. Now when you check
Speaker 1: out the Google Maps you will see this to follow
Speaker 1: the executive order. Google has previously said it has a
Speaker 1: long standing practice of applying name changes when they've been
Speaker 1: updated in official government sources, so there it is Gulf
Speaker 1: of America.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: Some fake signs have been posted in the West Hollywood area,
Speaker 2: causing concerns for the community. Mayor of West Hollywood said
Speaker 2: that these Immigration and Customs enforcement signs appear to mean
Speaker 2: to intimidate the com unity all the signs, he said,
Speaker 2: the signs are not what the city stands for and
Speaker 2: on and on. Flyers were first spotted on Friday were
Speaker 2: immediately taken down by the city's code enforcement because it
Speaker 2: does appear that they're fake. They're home printed signs. They
Speaker 2: are apparently literally duct taped to poles and trees and things,
Speaker 2: which is not how the federal government posts signs, and
Speaker 2: all it says. It's a sign that says the logo
Speaker 2: of the Immigrations and Customs Enforcement and then has a
Speaker 2: phone number for you to call, which is a real
Speaker 2: phone number for ICE apparently, but that's all. It doesn't
Speaker 2: say anything about We're coming to get.
Speaker 3: You or so.
Speaker 1: A collapse landing gear is apparent cause of that plane
Speaker 1: crash near Phoenix involving the jet owned by Vince Neil.
Speaker 1: One person was killed in that crash yesterday afternoon at
Speaker 1: Scottsdale airport Fire Department spokesman saying three people were taken
Speaker 1: to hospitals, two with life threatening conditions. This is just
Speaker 1: a few minutes drive from where the PGA's Waste Managed
Speaker 1: Meant Phoenix Open was held over the weekend. It was
Speaker 1: wild because I was there this weekend for the Savannah
Speaker 1: Bananas and everyone in the airport was wearing waste management
Speaker 1: stuff and I figured they had a convention or something
Speaker 1: in Phoenix. But anyway, TMZ reports of Vince Neil was
Speaker 1: not on the plane, his girlfriend was and is currently
Speaker 1: in the hospital with broken ribs.
Speaker 3: That's pretty rough.
Speaker 1: Are you going to get your wife roses for Valentine's Day?
Speaker 1: It'll cost you ninety dollars?
Speaker 3: No, No, you'd rather take her to dinner.
Speaker 1: You're not going to do both. You don't love her? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm kidding, I'm kidding. You know how I feel.
Speaker 2: Ninety dollars and fifty cents is the national average for
Speaker 2: a dozen roses, two percent increase from last year.
Speaker 3: The highest cost for a dozen roses Hawaii.
Speaker 4: I feel like roses is too to hack.
Speaker 1: If you know your wife or your girlfriend, or you're
Speaker 1: whoever you're in love with, you know that what their
Speaker 1: favorite flower probably is, or just don't.
Speaker 4: Get rose because it's easy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, get something obscure and just say, oh, these reminded
Speaker 1: me of you because they're so different.
Speaker 2: And by the way, the lowest price for roses this
Speaker 2: year Alaska.
Speaker 3: Under seventy six dollars for a dozen.
Speaker 1: Because up in Alaska, you're worried about the bush. You're
Speaker 1: worried about skin and an animal for dinner, not worried
Speaker 1: about bringing home roses. Maybe bush. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what that means. Is that a thing wild wild.
Speaker 3: Part of Alaska. Yeah, you're worried about the.
Speaker 1: Foliage, foliage, the dense foliage, foliage, foliage things out there
Speaker 1: with the beasts of the wild claws and the teething
Speaker 1: the nook of the north.
Speaker 3: I don't know if we can say that.
Speaker 4: Why it was a book. Oh, it's like Sarah Plane
Speaker 4: and Tall But no nook.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what it is. It's just like Sarah Plane
Speaker 3: and Tall.
Speaker 4: Well, they both lived very boring lives.
Speaker 1: I was on the phone with my brother yesterday and
Speaker 1: I said something pretty biting because I still have the
Speaker 1: chance to hone my brother insults with you. Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: your practice and he doesn't have that anymore because we
Speaker 1: talk in pretty infrequently. I mean we talk, but not
Speaker 1: that often, not enough to get in constant barbs to
Speaker 1: each other the way we used to.
Speaker 4: So I'm not out of practice, he is.
Speaker 1: And I said something on the phone yesterday to him
Speaker 1: that was so biting, and I felt and I could
Speaker 1: almost see him recoil from the phone, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm very sorry that came out.
Speaker 4: I'm used to. You know, being able to.
Speaker 3: Your sparring partner is tough.
Speaker 1: For the sparring partner, it gets more is more exposed
Speaker 1: to my meanness than you are these days. So all right,
Speaker 1: we have women disappearing over a period of time off
Speaker 1: the rural Highway twenty of ore again started in the
Speaker 1: late seventies, continued into the nineties. Finally found the one
Speaker 1: man linked to all five crime, which had a lot
Speaker 1: of sense surrounding it being this one guy because he
Speaker 1: had such access to this road.
Speaker 2: And what's unfortunate is there's plenty of other mysterious stories
Speaker 2: about Highway twenty through Oregon that were never connected to
Speaker 2: this guy, but show every indication that he was responsible.
Speaker 3: That's where we start our true crime Tuesday the story
Speaker 3: is true.
Speaker 4: Sounds true?
Speaker 1: No, it sounds made up.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Garry and Shannon present True Crime.
Speaker 1: It begins in nineteen seventy seven in Sisters, Oregon, there
Speaker 1: was a woman by the name of Marlene Gabrielson. Now,
Speaker 1: this was Marlene's first night away from her baby girl.
Speaker 1: Her daughter was born three months earlier. You can imagine
Speaker 1: how apprehensive she was leaving her baby girl. She was young,
Speaker 1: she was about twenty years old, but still late spring
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy seven, and she and her husband decided
Speaker 1: that they would have a night out. Mom and dad
Speaker 1: would have a night out at the rodeo there and Sister's, Oregon.
Speaker 1: She found a friend to care for her baby. She
Speaker 1: pumped the breast milk, She wrote out the napping schedule,
Speaker 1: the whole bit. She threw on her green Levi, She
Speaker 1: put on her buckskin boots her husband had gotten her,
Speaker 1: and she whispers to her daughter, good night. Mommy loves
Speaker 1: you too much, she said, be a good girl. They
Speaker 1: drive about ninety miles from their home there and Lebanon
Speaker 1: set up camp near the rodeo grounds, and they sit
Speaker 1: around the campfire, having a couple of beers now. They
Speaker 1: got into a little bit of a fight later on
Speaker 1: that night, and he says he wants to head off
Speaker 1: with a couple of friends. You know how young people
Speaker 1: go after they've had a couple of beers. She says, well,
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna leave. I'm gonna go home to the baby.
Speaker 2: Anyway, she wanders around out of the campground back towards
Speaker 2: the highway, and as she gets back to the campground,
Speaker 2: a stranger said that his buddy would give her a lift.
Speaker 3: So she had hitchhiked before.
Speaker 1: This was nineteen seventy seven. Everyone hitchike, Everyone hitchhiked. She
Speaker 1: didn't think twice.
Speaker 2: She squeezes into the front seat of the truck between
Speaker 2: these two guys, the stranger that she met and the
Speaker 2: buddy that was going to drive home.
Speaker 4: Think about uber, but you don't have.
Speaker 3: To pay interesting.
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, there's also no repercussions and no rating system.
Speaker 2: As they drive west, the guy in the passenger seat
Speaker 2: gets out.
Speaker 1: And she notices there's something weird about the vehicle at
Speaker 1: that moment because he has to reach outside of the
Speaker 1: window to undo the door handle from the out On
Speaker 1: the outside, she notices that the interior of the doors
Speaker 1: have all been taken out. There's nothing for you to
Speaker 1: roll down the window back when he had to roll
Speaker 1: down the window with the crank, there was no door
Speaker 1: handle on the inside.
Speaker 4: It was basically a trap vehicle.
Speaker 2: She sees the rifle in the rack in the back
Speaker 2: of the cab, the hunting knife that was stuck in
Speaker 2: the lid, and an old cop I he can and
Speaker 2: she's alone except for the driver, a guy named John
Speaker 2: Arthur Akron.
Speaker 1: Now the twenty two rifle again not something to be
Speaker 1: suspicious of, not in that part rural Oregon. It's the seventies,
Speaker 1: it's a truck. A lot of people had twenty two's
Speaker 1: in the cab. But anyway go.
Speaker 3: She sleeps. About an hour into the drive.
Speaker 2: This guy turns off of Highway twenty onto an old
Speaker 2: wagon road and she wakes up. He is dragging her
Speaker 2: out of the truck. She feels the blade of the
Speaker 2: hunting knife against her neck and he says, I'm going
Speaker 2: to you're going to do what I tell you.
Speaker 4: He rapes her.
Speaker 1: He then says I'm not sure what to do with you.
Speaker 1: She says, you could take me home. He says, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to do that. She says
Speaker 1: to him at this point, I've got a baby, not
Speaker 1: even a year old. Please take me home. So he
Speaker 1: considers this for a long moment, which must have felt
Speaker 1: like an eternity, reaches into the back of the truck,
Speaker 1: grabs an old pair of pants. She puts them on.
Speaker 1: All she had was her t shirt because he had
Speaker 1: ripped her the pants she was wearing. They climb back
Speaker 1: in the truck. They continue on a highway twenty He
Speaker 1: makes a stop at the house he shares with his mother.
Speaker 1: Goes inside to use the bathroom and grab a soda.
Speaker 1: She tries to see the house number from the truck.
Speaker 1: She's trying to get some evidence here, but she can't
Speaker 1: see it. When he returns, she has a presence of
Speaker 1: mind to ask for his phone number, kind of insinuate
Speaker 1: that she's into him, like maybe we can see each
Speaker 1: other again, and he gives it to her. She writes
Speaker 1: it down on a pack of cigarettes. He drives her
Speaker 1: another twelve miles down the road, stops in front of
Speaker 1: her mother's law. In in front of her mother in
Speaker 1: law's house where they had been staying, she flies out
Speaker 1: of the pickup the mother in law's like, what the
Speaker 1: hell happened, and she calls the police.
Speaker 2: She eventually goes through a lie detect or test. Did
Speaker 2: she tell the truth? Did you feel like you'd been raped?
Speaker 2: Was there a question? Were you afraid to answer? The
Speaker 2: conclusion was that she was lying about this. So and
Speaker 2: he didn't offer an explanation as to why he put
Speaker 2: that in the report. But they asked the guy they found,
Speaker 2: John Ackroyd, and they found him. Did you force her
Speaker 2: to have sex? Did you have a knife in your hand?
Speaker 2: He lied the entire way, but they said no deception
Speaker 2: was detected.
Speaker 1: This was a time when men were believed over women
Speaker 1: as well, and this is why many rape cases went
Speaker 1: unreported and still due to this day, because it's he said,
Speaker 1: she said. And in this situation, she's a young girl,
Speaker 1: she had been drinking, all of the things she got
Speaker 1: into the truck willingly, all of this counts against her.
Speaker 4: That's just the way it was.
Speaker 1: And this is why you have so many of these
Speaker 1: true crime stories of missing women that the cases are
Speaker 1: never solved because a lot of the stuff doesn't go
Speaker 1: reported or it's not taken seriously.
Speaker 2: Also interesting that she was apparently the only survivor that
Speaker 2: they know of, of an attack by this guy, and
Speaker 2: there one of the reasons why they weren't investigating it
Speaker 2: so thoroughly was they were already investigating the murder of
Speaker 2: a young woman that.
Speaker 3: Was also in the Sisters area.
Speaker 1: Well, the only reason that investigators circled back to Marlene's
Speaker 1: story is because they were investigating that crime two years later.
Speaker 3: Well, I started in the late seventies.
Speaker 4: We believe right where we left you off.
Speaker 2: John Arthur Ackroyd is a guy who worked for the
Speaker 2: State Department of Transportation in Oregon, and Highway twenty was
Speaker 2: his beat. Goes from Newport, Oregon all the way across
Speaker 2: over the mountains into Sisters, into Bend, kind of wends
Speaker 2: its way out the southeastern part of Oregon, makes its
Speaker 2: way all the way across the country, does Highway twenty.
Speaker 4: This was a guy who was an odd dude too.
Speaker 1: This was a guy whose name would come up because well,
Speaker 1: he was an odd dude. He had worked for the
Speaker 1: Highway Department. He was raised in that nearby area of
Speaker 1: Sweet Home, a modest logging town along Highway twenty. Only
Speaker 1: son of an office worker at the local police department,
Speaker 1: a maintenance guy, middle child between two sisters, low grades
Speaker 1: in school. His high school diploma marked with special education, loner, bullied,
Speaker 1: beaten by glassmates, felony, theft as a teen, stationed in Korea,
Speaker 1: Korea after he enlisted in the army. Also was in
Speaker 1: Thailand and Germany. He worked as a mechanic overseas. Investigated
Speaker 1: for selling weed, going a wall, caught trying to steal
Speaker 1: equipment and supplies. He had a disturbed mind, shall we
Speaker 1: This was the guy who would drive back roads, known
Speaker 1: for shooting squirrels, cutting off their tails. As a young guy,
Speaker 1: he killed puppies using a machete.
Speaker 4: I mean all the red flags.
Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy seven, he was connected to the case
Speaker 2: of Arlene Gabrielson, a young mom who survived an attack
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy seven. Short time after that, nineteen seventy eight,
Speaker 2: Kate Turner was found dead. Now Kay Turner was about
Speaker 2: thirty five years old. She had lived in Eugene. She
Speaker 2: was working as a Planned Parenthood employee and then at
Speaker 2: a manager at a local public health agency.
Speaker 3: She was an only child, close to her parents. She
Speaker 3: was a runner.
Speaker 2: She'd run a couple of marathons in nineteen seventy eight,
Speaker 2: and she and her husband joined some friends at a
Speaker 2: getaway in Camp Sherman, which is a little fly fishing
Speaker 2: retreat along the Metolius River there just off of Highway twenty.
Speaker 2: Christmas eve, very cold, she's going to go for a run, and.
Speaker 1: She planned an eight mile run and said she'd be
Speaker 1: back in an hour in time for breakfast.
Speaker 4: Which makes me feel very slow.
Speaker 3: Pretty good, she's pretty quick running right.
Speaker 1: There was a guy, a highway worker State highway worker
Speaker 1: named Thomas Hannah that spotted her that morning that she
Speaker 1: had been running alone south. He saw he had been
Speaker 1: returning to his place there in Camp Sherman after working
Speaker 1: the night shift. When he's driving home he sees her.
Speaker 1: He sees enough person driving through Camp Sherman that morning
Speaker 1: and who was it? That was John Ackroyd. By ten o'clock,
Speaker 1: she wasn't back. Her husband got worried, finding no sign,
Speaker 1: they called police. At this point there was also a
Speaker 1: weird story.
Speaker 2: Everybody was a little on edge because there were two
Speaker 2: young women at Kleine Falls State Park just about an
Speaker 2: hour away who had been run over by a guy
Speaker 2: in his pickup truck. And then the guy in the
Speaker 2: pickup truck got out and hit them with an axe.
Speaker 3: He attacked these women.
Speaker 2: They both survived the attack, but no one was ever
Speaker 2: charged in that case, so so Kay Turner is missing.
Speaker 2: Ackroyd was one of the guys who came forward and said,
Speaker 2: I saw her, but I didn't do anything. I mean,
Speaker 2: I saw her running, but I was just I'm a
Speaker 2: state highway worker. I had a job to do, so
Speaker 2: I didn't do anything.
Speaker 4: He said.
Speaker 1: He was based that day, twenty five miles from Camp Sherman.
Speaker 1: Said he'd gotten off work about six thirty am. A
Speaker 1: while later, he drives through the camp planning to hunt coyotes,
Speaker 1: and he passed by a runner. This is what he
Speaker 1: tells the cops. Detectives did not dwell on him, though.
Speaker 1: They focused on this woman's husband because she had had
Speaker 1: a couple of affairs, extramarital relationships. She had had with
Speaker 1: two men at the time. In fact, she had her
Speaker 1: liaisons with these guys written on her calendar at work,
Speaker 1: so they thought, well, the husband's got a reason to
Speaker 1: kill the wife.
Speaker 4: He's pissed off that she's screwing.
Speaker 2: Around eight months later, John Ackroyd walks into the general
Speaker 2: store there in Camp Sherman and says, I got to
Speaker 2: talk to somebody. I found the remains of that jogger
Speaker 2: that you're looking for.
Speaker 1: Now. The woman who worked there recognized this guy. He
Speaker 1: was the weirdo that she had seen a number of
Speaker 1: times since that runner had gone missing. One of those
Speaker 1: times stood out because, oh, I don't know, he was
Speaker 1: looking at a newdie magazine while touching himself.
Speaker 4: She was grossed out.
Speaker 1: So she goes to fight her husband, and by the
Speaker 1: time they returned to confront him in the store, he's
Speaker 1: gone anyway.
Speaker 2: Anyway, the cops roll in. He leads them to what's
Speaker 2: left of kay Turner's body, which at this point is
Speaker 2: just scraps of clothing and some random bones.
Speaker 4: Also, a piece of her watch was there. The watch
Speaker 4: had stopped.
Speaker 1: Nine twenty seven am on the day she went for
Speaker 1: that run and turned up missing December twenty fourth. Turns
Speaker 1: out the watch stopped when it was ripped apart.
Speaker 2: Now his story changed. He says he didn't stop and
Speaker 2: see her when she was jogging that morning. Then he
Speaker 2: says he did stop it. All he did was talk
Speaker 2: to her. Still, they're not smart enough, apparently, to put
Speaker 2: this together that this guy happened to be the one
Speaker 2: who despite everybody else out there.
Speaker 3: Looking for this woman. He was the only one who
Speaker 3: found her.
Speaker 1: Also, her breast had been punctured by a bullet, and
Speaker 1: he had said that at one point he touched her
Speaker 1: arm and her hair. Anyway, they learned that he had
Speaker 1: returned to check on the remains after she was initially killed,
Speaker 1: which is obviously a tell that this was the guy
Speaker 1: who did it.
Speaker 3: And then there was his own stepdaughter.
Speaker 4: Thirteen year old stepdaughter.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you the story about John Arthur Ackroyd and
Speaker 2: a series of victims. He's considered to be one of
Speaker 2: the worst serial killers, definitely in the Pacific Northwest, and
Speaker 2: that's saying something. He worked along the Highway twenty corridor
Speaker 2: from Newport, Oregon over into Bend and back. Was a
Speaker 2: highway repair guide, not just fixing equipment that was owned
Speaker 2: by this state of Oregon, but also people that would
Speaker 2: break down trucks and things like that. He is accused
Speaker 2: of attacking Marlene Gabrielson back in nineteen seventy seven, a
Speaker 2: young woman who survived Kay Turner, whose body was found
Speaker 2: eight months after he last saw her. And then a
Speaker 2: thirteen year old stepdaughter of his own, Rashonda Pickle.
Speaker 1: Rashonda Pickle just thirteen years old. Family lived at the
Speaker 1: State Highway Division compound where US twenty and Oregon twenty
Speaker 1: two meet.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: John Ackroyd had an unusual agreement with Rashonda's mother, Linda.
Speaker 1: The couple married in the mid eighties, divorced soon after,
Speaker 1: continued to live together though raising Linda's two kids, Rashonda
Speaker 1: and her older brother Byron. This little girl, good kid,
Speaker 1: helped her on the house, did not stray too far,
Speaker 1: would ride her bike, took a bus to school, was
Speaker 1: into Debbie Gibson and Wilson Phillips, just like everybody else
Speaker 1: at the time. And to some they say she seemed lost,
Speaker 1: almost invisible, that when parent conferences rolled around, no one
Speaker 1: showed up. That in fifth grade something shifted. She seemed
Speaker 1: withdrawn and tired and clash. She would count down the minutes,
Speaker 1: a sense of dread rising at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: the school day approached.
Speaker 2: In the assumption now, of course, is that she was
Speaker 2: being molested by her stepdad. Right there was a day
Speaker 2: that she doesn't go to school. Mom is working as
Speaker 2: an a as a maid, i should say, at a
Speaker 2: resort kind of nearby closer to sister's Oregon and dad
Speaker 2: was her Stepdad was going to go in to Bend
Speaker 2: and work at the transportation shop, but parts didn't come
Speaker 2: in or he made some excuse to go back home.
Speaker 3: That was the last that she was ever seen.
Speaker 2: He claims that he thought that maybe something someone broke
Speaker 2: into the house. He did tell cops that he went
Speaker 2: home and saw her and invited her to go with
Speaker 2: him to go take pictures of deer off of one
Speaker 2: of these logging roads, and that she declined. But by
Speaker 2: the time mom and dad, Mom and stepdad got back
Speaker 2: that night to the house, she was nowhere to be found,
Speaker 2: and it looked like she left in a hurry.
Speaker 1: At this point, his name comes up again, obviously, because
Speaker 1: not only is he in the home, but his name
Speaker 1: had surfaced with the last dead woman that we talked
Speaker 1: about and the runner, and the fact that he had
Speaker 1: last seen this little girl and the dead runner at
Speaker 1: the same time. This is the fact that he was
Speaker 1: the guy to last see these two people alive and
Speaker 1: ended up murdered was enough for them to realize, this
Speaker 1: is our guy, and we've got to do something about this.
Speaker 2: Here there were at least a couple of other murders
Speaker 2: Melissa Sanders and Sheila Swanson made their final call from
Speaker 2: a payphone in the dark. They'd gone camping at Beverly
Speaker 2: Beach State Park and then were picked up when they hitchhiked.
Speaker 2: They had met six months earlier. They knew nothing of
Speaker 2: this guy's background, obviously, but when the parents woke up
Speaker 2: and saw that their seventeen and nineteen year old girls
Speaker 2: were gone, they assumed that they had gotten a ride
Speaker 2: from friends. And what they didn't know is by the
Speaker 2: time they reported it, those two girls were likely dead
Speaker 2: because this John Arthur Ackroyd had picked them up and
Speaker 2: killed both of them.
Speaker 1: Detectives were able to finally prosecute him for the murder
Speaker 1: of Kay Turner the Runner from nineteen seventy eight, of
Speaker 1: which he was sentenced to five life sentences for aggravated murder.
Speaker 1: He pleaded no contest in the murder of the stepdaughter
Speaker 1: of the thirteen year old, agreed to not seek parole
Speaker 1: for the murder of the Runner. A case was developed
Speaker 1: against the murders of those two girls, Melissa Sanders and
Speaker 1: Chilliswants and the last ones, but he died before the
Speaker 1: case could be presented to the grand jury. The first
Speaker 1: woman we told you about, Marlene Gabrielson, who left her
Speaker 1: baby for the first time, three month old baby girl
Speaker 1: and was raped in the woods. Was this his only
Speaker 1: known survivor, the only victim known to have lived Her
Speaker 1: case was never prosecuted.
Speaker 2: We also mentioned, of course, the other cases up and
Speaker 2: down Highway twenty or a long Highway twenty where there
Speaker 2: was no suspect identified, just mysterious deaths of people that
Speaker 2: were involved. Some young men also that disappeared along that corridor.
Speaker 2: And the expectation is that this guy, who by the way,
Speaker 2: died in prison eight years ago, is probably responsible for
Speaker 2: many other deaths and disappearances between Newport, Oregon and Bendor.
Speaker 1: At least six, many of which are called things like
Speaker 1: Lynn County Jane Doe or Finley Creek Jane Doe, women, hitchhikers,
Speaker 1: forgotten women, young who nobody paid attention enough to track
Speaker 1: down or hunt down who was responsible for their disappearance
Speaker 1: and eventual murder.
Speaker 2: I say, next week we do something like copyright infringement
Speaker 2: on True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 1: That sounds tintillating, Well, it's tintilating or scintillating. I decided
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