Speaker 1: Latest interview of Elon Musk talking about the DOGE. Here's
the episode.
Speaker 2: What was your first thought on how DOGE was going
to proceed?
Speaker 3: Well, I guess I couldn't believe I was there for
the most part.
Speaker 4: It's like.
Speaker 3: It's all seemed extremely surreal at the time. You know,
DOGE was a made up name that had been made
up I don't know, two or three months before and
based on internet suggestions. And I was going to call
it the Government Efficiency Commission, and then someone on the
Internet said no, it should be the Department of Governed
Efficiency d OG. Like that sounds great. So we just
kind of made up an apartment.
Speaker 5: Do you think you were successful.
Speaker 4: We're a little bit successful.
Speaker 3: We were somewhat successful. I mean we stopped a lot
of funding for that that really just made no sense,
that was just entirely wasteful. Where it was like, for example,
there was like probably one hundred maybe two hundred million
dollars with the zombie payments per year, which simply by
enforcing that there'd be a payment code and an explanation
for the payment, that the payment would not go out.
So we've made that change to the main Treasury computer
and a bunch of other computers. It's like, it seems
like insanely obvious, but there are just call it a
two or three percent of government payments that go out
that really should not be going out, and it's actually
quite hard to stop. So it's a pretty rare individual
that would ask the government to stop sending them money.
Speaker 5: Would you ever do doge again?
Speaker 4: Do you mean would I repeat history?
Speaker 5: Or would I Two ways to think about it.
Speaker 2: One is if you could go back and start from scratch,
like it's January twentieth all again, would you go back
and do it differently and knowing what you know now?
Do you think there's ever a place to restart.
Speaker 4: You?
Speaker 5: Not saying others in your.
Speaker 2: Stead you go back and restart doing dosh?
Speaker 4: I mean no, I don't think so. I think probably
I don't know.
Speaker 5: Would you do doge again? Knowing what you know now?
Speaker 3: I mean the thing is like I think instead of
doing doorge, I would have basically built, you know, worked
in my companies essentially so and not and the cars
they wouldn't have been burning the cars.
Speaker 5: You gave up a lot to do.
Speaker 4: Do. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like if you if you if you stop money
going to uh going going for political corruption, they will
they will lash out big time. So they really want
the money to keep blowing. So if you stop it
from flowing, there's like a very strong reaction to to
stopping the money.
Speaker 4: Flowing for a while.
Speaker 5: Did you become disillusioned with how it operates?
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't say I was super illusioned to begin with.
I mean, I guess it's just like you really want
the least amount done by government possible, the least amount.
I guess maybe maybe, Like the biggest thing is that
I guess the biggest single thing is is that there
are massive transfer payments going to legal immigrants, like massive.
Essentially we're paying people to come here from somewhere else
in vast numbers, including flying them in, so like it's
not like you need a border wall if you're flying
them in then fast tracking them to citizenship and making
them beholden to just government payments and and voting hard left.
That's that's essentially it's like voter importation.
Speaker 4: If if if you if you create.
Speaker 3: A gigantic money magnet two, as you say, if anyone
comes here from anywhere else, we're gonna pay you tons
of money, give you lots of free stuff. Come come,
come to America and get paid to do so, Like
you're going to get a lot of people taking up
on that offer. When people say like this, this, this
is fake, I'm like, actually, well, let's look at you
know elan Omar, who was literally was voted into power,
voted into Congress by uh, you know, a large group
of people from Smalia who are in Minnesota, which is
really far from Somalia. Or mom Donnie who was voted
as to me mayor but if if but by a
majority of people who are not born in America, does
minostatic at least so and then then California, say a
big time situation. So I don't know, we just still
want to turn into a you know, communist hellhole.
Speaker 2: Basically, you've said in the future that no one's going
to need to worry about money or work because AI
is going to take care of the rest AI and robotics.
Speaker 5: What do you mean that people won't have to work
in the future.
Speaker 3: Assuming the current trend of artificial intelligence and robotics continues,
which seems likely, the AI and robots will be able
to do anything that that humans want to want them
to do. Essentially, so hopefully not than that. But AI
and robotics will be able to provide us provide all
the goods and services that anyone could possibly want, So.
Speaker 5: You wouldn't need to work. What would you do with
your free time?
Speaker 3: People will be able to whatever they want with their
free time. Work will be optional. I'm just want to
separate out from like what I wish would happen versus
what I predict will happen, because people get confused about that.
They think that what I predict will happen is what
I want it to happen. What I want what I
predict to happen is not the same as what I
want to happen. If I could, I would, I would
certainly slow down AI and robotics, but I can't. It
seems to be well, it's it's advancing at a very
rapid pace, whether I.
Speaker 4: Like it or not.
Speaker 5: Is AI what keeps you up at night?
Speaker 4: It used to be at this point, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say there's there's nothing particularly keeping me up
at night right now except that, But do you say, what?
Speaker 4: What? Why do I wake up in nightmares? Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I actually I've had a lot of AI nightmares.
I had AI nightmares many days in a row. What
am I supposed to do about it?
Speaker 5: What's your biggest irrational fear?
Speaker 4: I try not to have irrational fears.
Speaker 5: None.
Speaker 3: If I find an irrational fear, I squell shit. I
don't believe fear is fear is the mind killer. So
I'm about somebody who feels fear strongly on average?
Speaker 5: How many hours do you sleep the night?
Speaker 4: Six?
Speaker 3: You can tell, but based on my exposts, yes you can.
People have actually map them. It's very clear when I'm
sleeping around'm on. I tried having less than six hours sleep,
but although I'm awake more hours per day, my cognitive
function is reduced, so my natural sleep and actually timed
it with the phone.
Speaker 4: They can get a phone app.
Speaker 3: To time it. It's like five hours fifty six minutes.
That's what the phone said.
Speaker 5: What's an average day for you?
Speaker 4: Look like?
Speaker 3: Well, I have a lot of inbound communication, so it's
information trioge. I try to segment the days so that
there's not too much context switching, because arguably fear is
not the mind and killer. Context switching is. It's hard
enough to context switch if you've got an inbox full
of stuff, but you can think of, like if you
have to context switch every three seconds or every thirty
seconds or every three minutes, the context switching cognitive penalty
would be very high every three seconds.
Speaker 5: And you're talking about switching between say Tesla.
Speaker 2: X x AI SpaceX Personal, SpaceX Personal.
Speaker 3: But even within Tesla and SpaceX there are many different
things and this sort of the stuff on X like
random news things, you know, people being bunt alive and
stuff like that, and like, what the hell is going
on in this country?
Speaker 5: Who's the funniest person you know? In real life?
Speaker 4: You know, President Trump is very funny. He's got a
great sense of humor.
Speaker 5: President Trump is very funny.
Speaker 3: They're very funny. It's like naturally funny, but it's somewhat effortless.
I mean, you know when he has had at mcdanie
in the office and they asked him if he still
thought the president was fascist, and the President said, just
say yes, it's easier that way, don't worry about it.
Speaker 4: He's like, you, guys, what a how silly?
Speaker 5: Who do you look up to the most?
Speaker 4: The Creator?
Speaker 5: What's your current position on God?
Speaker 4: God is the Creator?
Speaker 5: You don't believe in God though, do you?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: I believe there was this universe came for something. People
have different labels.
Speaker 2: When's the last time you did something extremely ordinary like
go to Target or CBS.
Speaker 4: I can't go to Thanks with as the general public because.
Speaker 3: I you meet there, there's an immediate can I have
a selfie line?
Speaker 4: That forms in these.
Speaker 3: Days, particularly in light of Charlie Cook's motor there are
serious security issues.
Speaker 4: It's not that I don't want to, I simply can't.
Speaker 2: Has Charlie's murder changed how you do things? Or were
you already locked down pretty fall before that?
Speaker 3: It certainly reinforced the severity of the situation where life
is on hardcore mode. You make one mistake in your dad,
it only takes one mistake.
Speaker 5: What's one moment in your life that you could live
again just to feel it well?
Speaker 3: I mean, I see when my kids are born, or
the first time SpaceX got to orbit, or tells the
made electric car work.
Speaker 5: You've had a big lot of them.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of things. There's luck coming down the pike,
like what starship.
Speaker 4: They agree to.
Speaker 3: Which a starship is a revolutionary technology is not well
understood in the world. It's the first time that there's
been any rocket design where full and rapid reausability as
possible or full reasonbility at all as possible. This is
the first design where a reusable rocket. It's one of
the possible archives. Whay success is in a set of
possible orcoms?
Speaker 5: Are you talking about in V three or B two?
Speaker 4: Well, we could have made V two.
Speaker 3: Reusable, but the but there were a lot of performance
improvements for V three, so it made sense to go
to V three. They're just there's like ten thousand different
changes between B two and B three, maybe more than
ten thousand really so, but starship, if there are historians
in the future of we'll look back and a starship
and say it was one of the most profound things
that ever happened. Now you can think of historic events
as where would they fit on the in the evolutionary
Hall of fame. So you've got things like a single
cell life. Then you've got you know, multi cellular life
capturing a mitochondria capturing mitochondria so that you have a
power cell in the plant in the cell.
Speaker 4: You've got like a power plant in the cell.
Speaker 3: You've got you know, differentiation into plants and animals, life
going from oceans to land and then also on that scale,
probably in the top ten is life becoming multiplanetary. There
just aren't very many things that are in the top
ten of the evolution of life or where you could
basically say you could evaluate any given civilization or any
given life form as you know, on that.
Speaker 4: On that scale.
Speaker 3: So life becoming multiplanetary, it's on the top ten. It
needs to be sustainably multip multiplanetary. So I'm not just
visiting but actually multiplanetary in the sense that if you
have planetary redundancy, so if one of the planets, if
they were to be a catastrophe one of the planets, the.
Speaker 4: Other planet would spive.
Speaker 5: All of your country.
Speaker 3: Starship is capable during that for the first time in history,
and no AI was used to create it, So I
will appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Are all of your companies working towards that same goal
to help us become multiplanetary? Like does the AI exist
to be able to help life on Mars or is
that primarily for what is happening here currently?
Speaker 4: You know tells us.
Speaker 3: Mostly about making sure life on Earth is good as
an NXAI is about that too, because multiplanetary means Earth's
got to be good and you need another planet. Sometimes
people think, because they have you know, legacy templates, mental templates,
they think that going to Mars is an escape from
Earth and like order that there would be some you know,
a place where billionaires would go or something like that.
But actually Mars will be very dangerous and the Moon
base will be also dangerous, much more dangerous and much
less comfortable than Earth. So the people that would go
in the early days to make life multiplanetary and Mars
or the Moon.
Speaker 4: They would have a much higher risk of death.
Speaker 3: Than if then if they stayed on Earth, and things
would be cramped and uncomfortable. So that's that's the sales
pitch for Mars. It's going to be uncomfortable, the food
won't be as good as Earth. You might die, it's
going to be a massive amount of hard work, and
it may not succeed.
Speaker 4: That's the sales pitch. Do you want to go?
Speaker 5: Same when people came to America.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you didn't want to be in Jamestown.
Speaker 5: People went anyway.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Maybe if they've been social media back then, they would
have saying we're all dying. Here's videos of us dying.
Would have probably put a damp around future voyages. But yeah,
there's a whole bunch of people just dispear. You don't
know what happened to them.
Speaker 2: You talk a lot about X about wardrobe and how
you wish current wardrobe would be differently.
Speaker 3: I just think like from a fashion standpoint, we should evolve.
It's like my son Saxon said at one point, why
does everything look like it's twenty fifteen. I was like,
damn things do everything does look like it's twenty fifteen.
It's like if you took a picture from twenty fifteen
and send twenty twenty five, it looks exactly the same.
There were Stylistically, things are the same as twenty fifteen.
We have not We have not moved the needle in
a decade.
Speaker 5: So what should it look like?
Speaker 4: Something new?
Speaker 3: You know, like the sixties had a definitive style, the
seventies had a definitive style, the eighties had a definitive style,
and then the nineties also had a different style.
Speaker 4: But then you start looking at.
Speaker 3: The two thousands and the twenty tens, and it's like
less and less every year. I think we should before
of our style. And if you'll get some of the
older paintings, you know past cabinet secretaries, some of them
like they look cool, Like their jackets are cooler than
what we have right now.
Speaker 4: You know, they have sort of like a high collar.
Speaker 3: And like a sort of I don't know what some
sort of what do you cool those things? Ascot or
something like that. This looks cool, like so we don't.
Everything's like a very normal looking suit at this point,
but like literally the same as twenty fifteen. I'm being
generous because augilbly the same as twenty ten. So in
fifteen years and I'm like, from a fashion standpoint, I
don't think.
Speaker 4: We've moved since two thousand. In twenty five years.
Speaker 3: If you showed someone a picture of this is a
bunch of there's a bunch of dudes in twenty two thousand,
there's a bunch of dudes in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: Which year is which? So I think we should I
don't know, spice it up a little.
Speaker 5: What's a conspiracy theory?
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Speaker 5: Can you believe in?
Speaker 3: I mean, which conspiracy theories haven't come true at this point?
If we're not out of conspiracy theories, that because it
will come true as far as I can tell. I mean,
I don't know if any aliens. People always asked me
if there are aliens. I have seen no evidence of aliens.
No one on the SpaceX Senior team has any evidence
of aliens, because I've asked him, like, guys, am I
missing something? Has anyone on the team? Has anyone seen
any evidence of aliens?
Speaker 5: Does that include UFOs?
Speaker 4: That's just an unidentified blank object.
Speaker 3: So so UFOs like it could be like some new
weapons program or whatever that's you know, some hypersonic missile
or something.
Speaker 4: Like that, that that.
Speaker 3: Will be technically a UFO, but it's it's just it's
just basically some weapons prototype.
Speaker 4: It's not. It's not like aliens.
Speaker 3: So although Neil Armstrong Neil A spelled backwards as alien.
Speaker 5: Coincidence, you believe we actually went to the moon?
Speaker 3: Yes, went to the moon a few times actually and
played golf on the moon. Yeah, we didn't just go
to the moon. We actually got a little board and
started playing golf on the moon.
Speaker 2: But why didn't the flag move? There's like that constuct
I was to jump the talk moment about the flag.
Speaker 4: No, the playing golf on the moon Okay, yeah, I
literally did no.
Speaker 5: I understand that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, wead golf. Well on the moon is there?
Speaker 5: There's no gravity though, right.
Speaker 3: So there is gravity one six If it wasn't gravity,
you just float away. There's no atmosphere, fair, but there
is one sixth gravity.
Speaker 5: What's the biggest misconception about you?
Speaker 4: I don't know, how would I know?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 4: What do you think?
Speaker 2: I think it's I get asked this a lot when
I do interviews about you. Me, Oh, I got everyone
always thinks you're a very difficult person to work for.
Speaker 5: Oh, but you're I think you're very kind.
Speaker 2: Thanks Like people think which you're you are like a
very demanding boss.
Speaker 5: I think that you are. I've never heard you yell
at any employee.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think every employee who works at every single one
of your companies is incredibly mission driven, which is unlike
any other workplace I've ever seen. Like Starbase is the
most inspirational place you'll ever go to. Right, everyone is
there to work on a singular goal. And so I think,
to me, the biggest misconception about you is how every
employee at all of your companies are fiercely loyal because
it's all mission driven. And you are a very good
employer to work for, and I think people assume you're not.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 3: Well, why would they think anyone would work at the companies? Yeah,
I mean talent. I mean talented people can go work
anywhere they want. So they're only going to work at
one of my companies if if they want to, and
if they're mistreated in some.
Speaker 4: Way, they would they would leave and go work somewhere else.
Speaker 5: How'd you come up with the idea for starbas.
Speaker 3: Well, I think we needed a something inspirational.
Speaker 4: I can't wait.
Speaker 3: We kind of have a lot of star things, you know,
so we get Starlink Starship. Well, where would starship depart
from star Base? I mean a star base is as
you mentioned, it's it's like I think it's probably the
coolest place on Earth. I agree. And it used to
it used to be a sand bar down by the
Rio Grande. I mean it's only like three feet above
sea level. So we built a gigantic rocket factory and
two giant launch towers down by the river, literally within
side of the Rio grand and on on on. An
actual sandbar kind of had to have like an inspirational name,
and then we made it a city.
Speaker 4: So it's an incorporated city, like legally a city. You
don't you don't hear about new cities being formed that often.
Speaker 5: The last time there was a company town it was
disney World.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think Ford had some kind of like company town situations,
but but yeah, just disney World is it's literally its name.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm Walt Disney. This is my world. I've gone
from land to World.
Speaker 3: They got like incorporated as a city and got tax exemption,
which was like a whole It was a was a
big deal. I've been disney World probably ten times, really yeah,
maybe more than maybe ten, but at least ten times
because Cape Canaveral is right by disney World.
Speaker 5: This makes sense.
Speaker 3: So when I'd have the kids, then I would uh
my older kids, and I was we're trying to get
the rocket launched from Kpnavil. Then you know, the thing
they'd want to do is go to disney World or
Harry Potterland.
Speaker 5: What's your favorite ride?
Speaker 3: I sort of attempted to say Space Mountain. I suppose, yeah,
play Space Mountain. I mean, I do think Space Mountain
needs an upgrade.
Speaker 5: It's a little hardey jerkey.
Speaker 3: The it doesn't look quite as sci fi as it
used to. You know, it's like it's like the day
before yesterday's tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Protistal yesterday.
Speaker 5: What's your favorite age to parent of your kids?
Speaker 4: Generally kids are the most fun between five and ten.
Speaker 5: Do you think humanity is inherently good or is it
just trying to be?
Speaker 3: The concept of good wouldn't exist without humanity. I think
I do think humanity is on balance good, you know.
I generally think like increasing the amount of consciousness in
the universe is a good thing. Try to understand the
nature of the universe, which you can only do by
increasing the increasing conscious awareness. I mean, I've thought about, like,
how did we get here? Because if we did, sought
out as a hydrogen gas cloud that's sort of condensed
and then form stars, and then these stars exploded, and
then they recondensed form stars again and then exploded again,
and then eventually you get to us thirteen point eight
billion years later. And one of the interesting questions to
think about is how many times have your atoms been
at the center of a star? I think it's like,
on average three or four times something like that. Then
how many times will your atoms be at the center
of a start it's vary, but it seems like we're
roughly halfway. So your atoms is likely to be at
the center of the star maybe another four times or
something like that. It depends on what your predictions are
for the future. But in terms of existence, as measured
by the number of times your atoms will be at
the center of a star, we seem to be roughly
halfway that. Really, you know, if you want to look
at the big picture, that's the really big picture.
Speaker 5: What's one invention that's made us worse, not better.
Speaker 4: It's one adventure that's made us worse. Invention maybe short
form video. It seems to be writing people's brains.
Speaker 5: What's one piece of technology you hope never gets invented.
Speaker 4: I hope and I hope never gets invented, Like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like it's gonna destroy us all or you think
with the proper safeguards.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, obviously, I hope, like the people don't
invent a.
Speaker 3: Virus that can kill all humans, Like that's an obvious thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, generally, I hope mentions that destroy consciousness are not invented.
Speaker 4: I think the future is going to look very interesting.
Speaker 3: So it's I do have this theory about the predicting
the future, which is that the most interesting outcome is
the most likely, which if simulation theory is accurate, makes
sense because if anyone is simulating a wide range of futures,
they're going to stop the simulation when it gets boring,
because this is what we do in our reality. So
if SpaceX is doing hotels are doing simulations to understand
how a car would work, or robot or space or
something like that. We run all these simulations in the computer,
and the simulations that we pay attention to, the ones
that are the most interesting, like the simulation where everything
goes right on the rocket, we actually don't pay attention
to because that's that's not a everything goes right simulation.
Is it's fine, So we actually test the you know,
when we simulate the rocket flight, we'll actually test all
sorts of odd ball situations, but we don't test it.
We don't have the simulation be totally wrong because I mean,
like if the rocket just explodes immediately, that's not also
not interesting.
Speaker 4: So it's like you need to.
Speaker 3: Find the envelope of possible flight paths where the rocket
can make it to orbit and without exploding, and then
you find those boundaries, and then when you launch the
actual you try to make sure it stays within those boundaries.
Or another way to think of it is like we
could be an alien Netflix series and that that series
is only going to get continued if our ratings are good.
Speaker 5: Are the ratings good?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But you can think of it like from Darwinian sandpoint applied.
If you apply it Darwin to simulation theory, then the
only the most interesting simulations will continue. Therefore, the most
interesting outcome is most likely because it's either that or annihilation.
Speaker 4: So really we have one goal, keep it interesting.
Speaker 2: Do you think social media has made people more honest
or more performative?
Speaker 3: Well, social media makes people more performative. By the same token,
you you get more real life video of things that
are actually happening, and anything that is very interesting will
spare we'll go viral on the internet.
Speaker 4: So you have both.
Speaker 3: You've got more performative where people are doing anything they
can to get a few more views on their TikTok
video or whatever, or their reels or maybe on their
ex post or something, and so that's very performative. But
then you also see real life videos that are that
challenge the narrative, but are nonetheless real.
Speaker 5: Is there any X accounts?
Speaker 2: You're surprised when you changed it so people could see
country of origin that wasn't in the United States that
you thought was in.
Speaker 5: The United States.
Speaker 3: I don't really think about it that much. I mean,
there's in a country of origin. We have to be
a little careful about this. You can actually technically you're
just specify your region, like you can say I'm in
Asia or something like that, which is quite big. But
it does make it a little harder that if somebody
is trying to put ten that they're i say, a
member of the American public or in Europe or Africa wherever.
If they're you know, if everything about their account is
from a different continent than they are pretending to be from,
it's a guess a little harder to pretend. We don't
want to dots people, but we kind of think you're
not really doxing someone if you say which continent they're from.
Speaker 5: I think it's fair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So in every episode we've played, would you rather, okay,
would you rather save humanity from extinction? Extinction on Earth
or guarantee its survival on Mars?
Speaker 4: It's a false dichonomy.
Speaker 3: I think i'd say guarantee Earth that's much better than Mars.
To be clear, Mars, but Mars is just our best
option if we want to become a multiplanet species.
Speaker 4: Is really our only option.
Speaker 3: If you want to become a multiplanet species, you've got Mars,
which it's very difficult but not impossible.
Speaker 4: Earth is much better than Mars. But you know, we can't.
Speaker 3: I think it was Silkowski or I think you said,
you know, Earth is a cradle of civilization, but we can't.
Speaker 4: Stay in the cradle forever.
Speaker 5: Would you rather be a Marvel superhero or a Bond villain.
Speaker 3: I think it would depend on which Marvel superhero, which
Bond villain. I suppose I'd rather be a Marvel superhero.
They did model iron Man in the movies after me.
Speaker 2: Yes, so you were in the Iron Man movie, right, Yes,
that's pretty much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Roverdy Junior and Favre met with me, toured SpaceX
and stuff. So in fact, Iron Man two, a large
part of the movie is filmed in SpaceX. Really, yes,
if you look at if you watch Iron Man too,
you'll see that it's the SpaceX factories.
Speaker 4: Is the actual background that's so cool. Yeah, it was cool.
Speaker 3: We had to Calle Johansson doing marsh in the lobby. Actually, yeah,
and you expect me.
Speaker 4: To believe this is roll real? It's a simulation exactly?
What are the odds?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean if you and me, no, I agree with.
Speaker 4: Would you think this is real or a simulation?
Speaker 5: Your life is a simulation? Yeah, your life gets to
be the simulation.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I'm like doing all the side quests and everything.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what's your best side quest that do?
Speaker 4: Probably?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 2: Would you rather launch a social network with no algorithm
or a rocket with no manual override?
Speaker 4: Who came up with these questions?
Speaker 5: Just keep going? These are funny, Maybe not to you
because they're too trivial.
Speaker 3: What do you mean, like, like you said that with
an algorithm means that you basically you only see the
people you follow, like it's just.
Speaker 2: A mess, like it was Twitter before you bought it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's the sort of people you follow, and then
there's a recommendation algorithm. I think probably in December will
finally have a half decent recommendation algorithm.
Speaker 5: It's a lot better.
Speaker 4: Recently.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it really just trying to show people's stuff
that'd be interested in. But there's an enormous amount of
AI horsepower being applied to this. Where grock wor thing
is reading, it's going to read all one hundred million
posts per day, which is does.
Speaker 5: That take up a lot of compute?
Speaker 3: Hopefully it doesn't destroy its mind or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just take a lot of compute.
Speaker 3: Like most most posts are, there's a lot of spam
scam stuff, so it's just that can be easily discarded,
I suppose. But then you've got to take you know,
hundred million pieces of content match that to I don't know,
sometimes three or four hundred million people per day, So.
Speaker 4: That's a lot of matching.
Speaker 2: My algorithm needs to look a lot like other peoples
and you open.
Speaker 5: Their X account. Now mine is very unique comparatively to
other people's.
Speaker 3: Well, we really are kind of the this is just
the the beginning kind of thing. The what I mentioned
that grog reading everything and recommending any given thing to
anyone should go live in December, so that the asked
the test with this is are you saying content like
are you saying content that you find really interesting from
accounts you've never seen before? If if that's happening, then
the algorithm is working like it should be possible for
somebody to put to post content as a new user
with no followers, and if that content is excellent, it
gets seen by a lot of people. So can an
account with a small number of followers or a new
account if the content is intrinsically excellent, can that content
be seen by a lot of people?
Speaker 4: That's our goal, all right?
Speaker 2: Last one, would you rather invent time travel or teleportation?
Speaker 4: Actually those things are almost the same thing in.
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