Speaker 1: It's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do this.
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Speaker 1: That's great. That won't confuse anybody. No, that's fine.
Speaker 2: Hey, Mike, thanks for doing that. If the audio listeners,
it's if it's weird. My obs wasn't working, so Mike
had to help me out there. But wait, we figured
out we're live. We're recording a podcast on switch to revealed. Hey,
that's happening in today's episode. Also, Sony kills more live
service games before they're even born. And I it says here,
I'm an egotistical bastard.
Speaker 1: But people really got mad that you don't necessarily want
the Switch store to be curated. That really bothered people.
Speaker 2: I think what we're discovering is that some Blue Sky
Skeeters get mad about everything. Where I think we're at
that point of the social media sort of like arc
where Blue Scott was like in a honeymoon period and
now there's people that don't know how to do it,
who are just out there like replying to everybody. We
will eventually shame enough of them that people will learn
some etiquette. But for now, it's gonna have to be
calling me a Nazi because I want people to be
okay with clocks being on the E shop store. So hey,
it's a fun, fun little thing happening over there.
Speaker 1: I had someone today when I said something about a skeat.
They're like, skeat also means jiz. You probably don't want
to use that term. Be like, that's the.
Speaker 2: All of that rules. Oh my god. Mostly it's very
entertaining to me. Someone was in a dance replies I'm like,
I'm too old for video games. I'm like, yeah, I
get his ass. Get them.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just go go there and break him over
the coals. I'll tell you what, though, I still like
GET much more than X. In fact, you know, I
go for X. Yes, And I'm a little surprised that,
like so many colleagues are kind of still sticking it
out there at this point. I'm a little shocked, you know,
in the in the midst of Elon Muskin as in
like publicly feuding they're still posting there, right, It's.
Speaker 2: An embarrassing platform to use for sure, And for me,
the like, I'm not gonna quit Twitter. I will occasionally
be on there, but whenever I'm on there, I am miserable.
And when I was like I and I have mostly
moved over to Blue Sky. And the reason I was
like hanging it out, like trying to like survive on
Twitter was like, I was here before these assholes, and
I feel like I have an ownership there. I made
my bones on Twitter. I will able to like get
like a kind of a career because of it. I
was able to make a lot of connections, so I
felt like an ownership over it. And then it just,
you know, Cammel Straws backs that sort of thing all
happened with the election and Elon Musk being weirder than
weirder than he's ever been, and so yeah, I'm like,
I have moved on, and so when I do go back,
You're right, it is surprising how many people are there,
but they're just you know, they were like me, they
were addicted to it, so they can't go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I get like a lot of people with
big audiences there. I was surprised how quickly I got
seventy five percent of my audience at least when you know,
basically more engagement right away. That's the reason why I switched.
I was like, Okay, I'm going to duel post now.
I'm like, oh, the Blue Sky stuff already is getting
more activity. I'll just go there, screw it.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. And it's like, you know, I'm not gonna
probably get back to the over one hundred k whatever
I had on Twitter anytime soon, but I'm I'm already
also getting more engagement usually on Blue Sky, so you know,
not that that's what what drives me, is just having
an outlet to just post my bullshit, just an exhaust thing.
And it both were fine for that, So I'm going
to go with the one that is not miserable. Well,
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Speaker 1: So Jeopardy already seems like a winner in chat.
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I got some big topics you want to get to him?
Speaker 1: What like what what could have possibly happen?
Speaker 2: You're right, I'm lying, there's nothing really talking about it.
Just send it. Yeah, you know what, Let's go back
to our families. Switch to. All right, switch I talked
about this on Game US Mornings today, so I'm kind
I'm more interested to hear more of your thoughts since
we did that talk over this morning on Giant Bomb.
How are you feeling about the switch to as we
get into the evening of its announced day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm pretty happy, Jeff, just to have
the thing out there. There's like a little bit of
that Hey wow, Yeah, that sure is just the thing
that all the league said it was right, and you
kind of have to be a little aware. Well, yeah,
it is that's fine. I kind of liked all the
stuff that was getting leaked, right. I like the magnet
based joy cons I like the bigger size. I like
the teasing of the you know, mouse support for the
system and things like that, the bigger kickstand, all of it.
So yeah, I like that. I think, you know, maybe
they could have done a bit of a sexier presentation,
you know, I know we joked about the rooftop party.
I got shocked they didn't go that route with it.
And hey, it was a little bit of surprise to
see Mario Kart and very clearly the new Mario Kart.
It just clearly looks different, especially like when you really
look at details like Donkey Kong's new model, it looks
a lot more kind of like the movie version of him.
So yeah, in general, I'm just really glad that it happened,
and that it is just the switch to ooh ooh oh,
Can I be Can I be a little bit of
a stinky asshole for just a moment about the ale? Yeah?
For years I said that this thing which should just
be called the switch to. Yeah, and it still then
I saw it was the last time I was talking
about this even today lots of people, lots of great people, Jeff,
friends and colleagues and listeners a show. You're all fantastic,
And I apologize if this worsens our relationship, but they
still like should have been called the Super Nintendo Switch, right, Jeff?
That name always it's terrible. And I don't just mean
from a marketing perspective, because it's that's true for sure.
Terrible from a marketing perspective. Awful to say. Cringey is
the word I would use. It makes me cringe when
people say that should be the name of the system. Uh,
not good to say, terrible mouthfeel don't think it looks right?
Uh yeah, terrible name. Everyone who ever wanted to be
the name was wrong. And we're here now and I
feel better. Well, you know what, Mike, I've come around
to your side on this a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2: A few weeks ago, I was like, I heard someone
say super Switch, and I was like, I had a
visceral reaction where I was like, oh, I don't like
the way that sounds. Mike. You are a million percent right.
It's actually a bad name. It's a bad nuh And.
Speaker 1: It is funny to see just how like the logo
for the thing is just a two, right, Like this
is switch too. The two is more important than even
the switch part. Yes, yeah, exactly. And like people are
saying that, like what happened to Nintendo. They would never
do this before, and it's like, to me, this is
totally in line with Nintendo. When they go when they're
like looking for an answer to like how they should
present something, they always look to Apple. Apple is not
abandoned numbers yet for the iPhone, so they're like, you
know what.
Speaker 2: Let's just do that. And you know, people are like, oh,
they're like the PlayStation now. I guarantee they looked at
Apple and they're like, hey, these are the masters of
presenting products to people. How should we do it? That's
what they looked at.
Speaker 1: And Nintendo's done a ton of sequel consoles. The Super
Nintendo is the sequel to the En Yes, game Boy
Advance sequel to the Game Boy Color, and Game Boy
the three DS sequel to the DS. We use sequel
to the WI just because it's a two now, which
you know, it's just kind of making it a bit
more obvious. And of course I can't imagine that maybe
the guy there was one guy who put up a
real stink another stinky asshole. When they were trying to
name the WIU, He's like, I think we should name
it the Wii too, and somebody's like, that's not how
we do things here. And this time a round he
was like, listen, you like went up to the chalkboard.
It just drew a giant two.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: It was like, you're right, and it's like, I'm gonna
make it even bigger. He raises it and makes the
two even bigger. Yeah, we could just call it the
two even. I don't care.
Speaker 1: But as long as we have a two there, that's
not negostuperl.
Speaker 2: You're right. And I was a little bit like surprised
to still see people today being like that shouldn't be
the switch to or shouldn't be the name. It's like,
it definitely should be. They are trying to accomplish a
certain thing with it. This does that we don't care
about names five seconds after these things come out. It's
only something we really discussed now, unless it's a WEU situation,
and then we always go back to how the name suck.
That's the only time we talk about names of consoles
after they come out. It's if they're a problem. So
if we don't talk about this name after comes out,
that is a huge success. And I think that's exactly
what they're going to get here. Yeah, as far as
the actual like what they showed itself, it was a
lot of what we saw in the leaks, right, Mike,
and then Mario carl Wells exactly. I'm kind of impressed, right, yes, yeah,
it's wild out. It's like, oh, this is just everything
we've heard for the last little bit. It turns out
if you have some of that mock up hardware and
then now more recently maybe people actually have shoot hardware,
you can glean a lot of what's going to be
happening in this video because this was a hardware based video.
And then they showed Mario Kart. You know, Mario Kart
ten I guess, And yeah, that's not surprising either. There
was always going to be a Mario Kart in the
first year on this thing. Seems like this is them signaling, hey,
this is the launch game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's maybe like my one bit of anxiety
and not much because be clear, I like give Mario
Kart some shit, but even I was like, hey, new.
Speaker 2: Mario Kart, all right, And if you're if you were,
like if you were in charge of Nintendo and someone said,
what should we have first on this system? Oh you're
maybe Mario Kart.
Speaker 1: I like money, But you know, I was just running
off the assumption for so long, like three D Mario
launch game. And now that we know Mario Kart for
sure and we don't know three D Mario for sure,
I'm like, maybe three Mario isn't there right at the
launch It'll be this year, and I guess that's right, fine,
but I'm like, just not quite so sure it's for
lunch now. That's like the smallest bummer ever to me.
The other thing I complained about online for a little bit,
you know, I did my usual like black consoles are
kind of thing, and then like people replied, I suck
so much. People replied it agreed to me, and I
was like, is this what I sound like?
Speaker 2: I'm hard because I know exactly what you mean all
the time, Like, oh man, wait, I'm saying that kind
of shitty people.
Speaker 1: Oh no, because like it looks fine. Never mind, I
like it, It's okay. So I am generally very positive.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm with you. I I am I'm really happy
with it. On the size, the sleekness, I'm you know,
of course I want to hold this thing, see what
it's like. That Like a lot of things will click
in the place at that moment. But based on what
we know now, what we can see, uh, yeah, this
is fantastic. I do like the little accents of color.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Somebody somebody said, and this is just for the
Star Trek Nerds. Someone online said, if the switch is
the Star Trek the next generation uniforms, this is the
Star Trek D Spaced nine uniforms.
Speaker 2: And I'm like yes, and because like these Space nine
uniforms are mostly black with accents of color, whereas the
next generation color colors are mostly color and then some
accents of black. And it's like yeah, totally, and that
looks that looks great. So yeah, I am. I'm happy
ready to sort of like get on with it. April. Second,
for the direct, how do you feel about that?
Speaker 1: I'm glad that they said it right, Like sure, here's
here's where you're gonna get like all that. Actually the
other info that you're craving a little bit longer than
I would have guessed, and it's like, okay, maybe that
April launch date hope isn't happening. So now it's like
I geel like optimistically hope for May or June. I'm
like getting ready for late summer. I don't think holiday still,
but maybe yeah, maybe summer at some point. So that's fine.
But other details, you know, like the mouse thing, even
that rumor being true. You know, some people are like, oh,
but you know, do you really want to use a
joy conez a mouse? I'm like, probably, but like not
that we have this support. I assume that Nintendo or
just anybody can make like actual mouse controllers, right, I.
Speaker 2: Mean yeah, And you know, the switch actually had people
reminded me of this, and I think in the back
of mine, I knew this all long. You could plug
a USB mouse into the switch and play something like
game Builder Garage in a mouse. Yes, just that, which
is always weird. It's like they didn't add that support
for Super Mario Maker two. It's like, why didn't you
do that for that? But yeah three, yeah, man, that
would be great. So I think you're right, Like just
the fact that there will be a mouse built into
this thing, A lot more games will like gesture it,
like support for that, like Civilization seven probably will have
mouse support just because it's a launch game and they'll
want support all those features, and then you'll be able
to plug in a real mouse if you want, and
all that stuff will just map automatically to that. So yeah,
and uh, I think that you know, there's that's only
so exciting for third party games. But I I am
someone who likes weird Nintendo, and I think this means
we get some cool weird Nintendo games, like not a
ton of them, but like three to four that take
advantage of the stuff. And that's all I really need personally,
because what I really want from the system is for
it to be what it is, the switch to another switch,
more switch, more power, a bunch of Mario, Zelda, Kirby games.
I'm gonna be happy. And then the team that makes
you know, a rhythm toon Goku can surprise me with
some new weird rhythm game that plays with you you
play with the mouse.
Speaker 1: That sounds awesome to me, I say, then other thing,
everybody always I think they wanted some kind of like
fun little gimmick here, right, because you the switch had
a couple of those here it is right, this mouse
thing neat didn't see it coming, uh till it got leaked,
but you know they didn't see it coming before that, but.
Speaker 2: Doesn't see the way, right, It doesn't change the feel
of it. No developer has to support it to make
their game make sense on the device, like the dual
screen stuff, which I like the dual screen stuff. I
wish things had dual screens, but that was like, you know,
you have to kind of make your game for the DS.
You do not have to do that here with this gimmick.
That is the ideal place for Nintendo gimmicks to be
existing in.
Speaker 1: Right now, let's talk about Mario Kart because that was
a pretty interesting little peek at it. Now again, like
the more you look at neat little details you gleaned
from it, like there's spots for like the for like
twenty four racers or something there. And also the track
they show is very wide and very long. Now, some
people are like, oh, maybe this is like the Burnout
Paradise of Martyrcark games. To me, I'm like, well, I
think the tracks like that because this is a track
for twenty four racers potentially, right, or do you think
there's more to it than that?
Speaker 2: I think There's probably more to it than that, because
I think even with twenty four racers that the track
looked pretty wide, pretty big, yeah, pretty big. And I
just think the way the map looked made it feel
like this is a track that is being sort of
cordoned off on top of a world that is that
feels like it maybe extends past this. It's like they're
putting objects here to show that this is a road,
and it feels like one that's like, Oh, we all
drove out to a place so inactivated a race. We
all agreed, let's do the race, and now the race
is taking place on that part of the map. It
kind of like that to me. Now, you know, could
be seen ghosts where there are none. But but I
I think I am sort of beginning to buy into
that theory. I like it. It also feels like a
good way to sort of do something new with Mario
Kart that could be very fun and Nintendo could find
a way to make it very Nintendo. Well.
Speaker 1: It makes sense, you know when more think about it,
because Mark Credik Glux is still just going to be
playable on this thing, and that is such a perfect
form of that original Mario Kart idea already. Why not
take a bit of a swing here. Bessally everything we
didn't really talk about right backwards compatibility digital physical games
except for some there's some exceptions, presumably just things that
require the old JOYCN kind of latching on technology, I assume.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, maybe you know, we were trying
to like look at that weird little glowy thing underneath
underneath the Yoshi gas station. You know, maybe that is
a waypoint to like start up a race. You know,
why would that be in the middle of the race,
of course I understand that, but just like maybe there
is something to that.
Speaker 1: It would be cool, it would pick meat.
Speaker 2: I I I'm in favor of it. I wonder if
it would scare off some Mario Kart traditionalists, but I
think it's like, I don't know, I bet there would
be a way to just.
Speaker 1: Yeah you could, I mean, you know, even outside of
you could still just have like classic tracks in there
and stuff like that. But the idea of some kind
of open world mode or where you can just join
online races organically like that, that'd be a ton of fun.
Speaker 2: Yep, I'm board for that. Yeah, so uh, I feeling
good about Mario Kart. I hope you know. Again, we
don't know anything April second, all the other games will
get revealed at that point. I bet they will have
a three D Mario even if it is even if
it does get dated for the holiday. Yeah, sty'll show
it at that thing.
Speaker 1: Uh see more metter Prime four for the first time
in a while.
Speaker 2: I mean that Mettery Prime four probably shows up at
this rumored February direct. Now we're getting rumors because you
know that thing will still they still will want to say, hey,
this is switch one game, even though it's probably definitely
gonna get major support on both sides that that generational divide.
But that does make me wonder it's okay, so Mario Kart,
and then we were assuming something from the three D
Mario team. What else would you want right at launch
to like really make this thing feel awesome, to like
get off a good, good start.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they are going to position, however
you do it breath for the wild sixty phrase per
second as a big deal, and like that alone is
a pretty big reason.
Speaker 2: I think you are probably right about that. I think
Sean mentioned that when we were talking this morning, and
it's like yeah, I guess. But now the more I've
thought about it more, it's like that does make sense,
as like, hey, everyone coming, you love this game, maybe
you haven't played in a while. It continues to sell
very well, so there's like always a new person that
seems interested in it. I think that will be right there.
It's like, I just feel like they need one other thing.
And again we're assuming three D Mario isn't ready to
go that launch, but if it is, that does solve
that problem. I guess, you know Mario Kart. And then
do you think like big maybe Splatoon, Like maybe it's
a bit early for Splatoon.
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, I wondered about that on last Nintendogs
maybe a little we thought we thought it was maybe
a little early for Splatoon. I mean it Metro Prime four. Again,
it could still yeah, Switch one game, they talk about it,
but it could still just launch on both consoles on
the day that the Switch to comes out. It could
still be largely positioned as a launch game. If you
have that, you have Mario Kart, you have after the
Wild sixty francs per second, and then like what we
presume is gonna be an absolute deluge of third party
ports of like beloved games from the last ten years
or so that are finally running in pretty decent quality
on the switch to I do think, yeah, I kind
of want one other weird thing surprise, and maybe that
is the thing that shows you why the the mouse
thing is good. And maybe that's Mario payn right. Maybe
it is Mario Maker three right there at launch or
something really interesting like that. No, probably something completely out
of nowhere. It could be that MMO test thing that
they did.
Speaker 2: Also, Yeah, you're right then, and all of those I think,
you know, with a little bit of extra marketing push
making it feel important because it's a Nintendo switch to
launch game, a lot of those things that you suggested
will hit very hard. I think like a Mario paint
would I think get a lot of people excited, even
people who weren't there for the Super Nintendo. It's like
this weird thing you always heard about. I think Nintendo
could really easily make that feel special.
Speaker 1: What would you rather have a Pickman RTS or a
Star Fox RTS.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's interesting for me, I would go I would
go Pickman because I always imagine like the Pickman franchise
sort of expanding beyond its its original idea and getting
bigger and bigger. It's like, oh, like one of the
characters returns to their home planet and they find out
that an evil corporation came and got Piman too, and
they're trying to take over the home planet with that
army of Pickman, and you sort of have to do
Piman on Pickman battles. And I always thought that would
be pretty cool.
Speaker 1: But I would take either. It could be RTD real
Time Dan Dory, yeah, which is already real time that
I think about it.
Speaker 2: Still, yeah, even more real time real time Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Price that's the the other thing people
are buzzing about. I think everybody thinks it's either four
hundred or four to fifty, right, those those seem to
be the two options zero really.
Speaker 2: And really, when everyone kind of feels that way, Nintendo
doesn't really have they have a choice. They can't, they
don't do anything that we want them to do. But
when everyone sort of has this gut instinct that the
things should be priced that much and it is more
expensive than your last console, I think they kind of
have to try to get it into that window. This
thing is going to come in you know, underpowered. I
don't think that matters very much, but it would be
weird if it was anything more than four to fifty,
because then you're right next to the Xbox Series X
and PlayStation five, and really four hundred. You already are
because the digital edition of you know, the Discuss version
of the PS five, it's already four hundred. You know,
maybe they up the price to four to fifty, but whatever,
that right there. So I think this thing launches at
four hundred and they then very quickly within a year
to eighteen months, well okay, eighteen months to two years,
have a o led ready to go for the following holiday,
and then they get that up to four fifteen.
Speaker 1: That yeah, that goes bundle with Mario Kart or something.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know what. I love talking about the switch
to as a real problems. This feels great, This feels nice.
It is good to have like we have. We've popped
the seam and now we have fully broken through to
the other side. Here we are. We could talk about
this real thing that people could stop, like, quit talking
about it till they say something, which I'm not mocking you.
I felt the same way a lot of the time,
but now here we are. Everyone agrees this is the thing,
It's real, let's do it. So yeah, I'm right there
with you. I love this. Here here's another one maybe
for launch or launch we end of fire emblem that
reay Yeah, I mean god, that Fire and Blom remake.
We've been wanting speculating about that forever. It apparently has
been done for a very long time. If it doesn't
show up in that February direct that again rumored to
be coming, then yeah, I expect that to be launch
game for the Switch too. And why why wouldn't they
want to have a fire emblem at this point kind
of serve a lot of audiences and that serves a
very specific audience on the Switch too.
Speaker 1: So yeah, what do you think happens with the NSO
retro consoles? Do you think like you think there's a
big drop on day one. I don't know if there's
a new console at it on there, but do you
think they take that as an opportunity to maybe add
some stuff that people have been hoping for and haven't
seen yet, like Donkey Concepts before, like you know Big
Dream Mother three, Like hey, we translated this and it's
on NSO. No there you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I think that the big drop in terms
of a bunch of games added like that makes sense.
And then closer to the holidays, they probably have some
new features, maybe a new console at that point, because
that's when people subscriptions begin to lapse, so they won't
want to have something big and exciting around that time.
It'll also be going into the holidays for the switch to,
so I think that is when they try to nail
down something that is bigger and more exciting. But at
launch they have a couple of things to remind people
about Nso although Mario Kart, you know you need to
be online for that game, that's going to sell a
lot of Nintendo Switch Online passes, right.
Speaker 1: And Mario Card is gonna be such a good showcase,
hopefully for improved online features, and perhaps the mysterious Sea button,
which we see the button in this reveal. It doesn't
have the Sea on it that we've heard about before,
but that button is there. I think what we're thinking
it maybe stands for campus or community these days, and
that might be the hub for a lot of the
social functions of the switch to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right. I wish they would have shown that
I'm glad they like showed the mouse stuff, but I
think I would have preferred to like seeing, Hey, what
does that button do? But that's stuff they're saving for
able second. I get that that's something they need to
go deeper on to really explain how they expect people
to approach that thing. But yeah, online features, I hope
that the Switch to has a lot more basic online features. Really.
You know, the Steam Deck is so good with its
microphone at speakers for like, if you want to play
games online on the Steam Deck that it's actually a
really good device for that. I think the Switch too,
if it could just match that, that would be excellent.
Where I could just talk into this thing. It doesn't
have like any problems like echo where people can hear
themselves talking because it's coming out the speakers and coming
back through the mic. They could just have a basic,
good interaction between people I'm playing games with online to
the point where it's like we are going to be
playing together in this open world Mario Kart game at launch.
That would be fantastic.
Speaker 1: I'm jazzed me too. I'm excited me too.
Speaker 2: Yep, we'll see, we'll see the price, we'll get the
release date, you know, backwards compatibility. That was you know,
confirmed again, we knew that was going to be the case,
but they basically just kind of laid it out that
it is exactly what people want. Fiscal game cards and
the digital games will all just work, except with a
few a few exceptions they said. They didn't say what
kind of exceptions. Although people are speculating, hey, Lavo won't
work because the joy CON's on these new switch on
the switch too will be too big, and maybe it
maybe doesn't have an IR receiver or IR camera, so
one to switch and everybody's one you switch won't Maybe
there were a couple others that use that. Yeah, I know,
I'm sorry, mikey uh, but yeah, do you think anything
else beyond that is a problem. Is ring Fit something
that reads like the old joy Con kind of? Yes,
Fitters you had to slide the joy cons onto the
ring itself. So yes, that wouldn't work either, don't you know?
Speaker 1: Ring Fit two could just be a once game.
Speaker 2: Also, Oh, ring Fit was a huge success for them.
I expect them to do another one. All right, let's
see here, I see there's lots of super chats coming
in on this. Thank you everybody keeping sing yes, if
you want to talk about this topic, we will of
course answer any of your questions. There, let's get through
the rest of this news real quick. Though, Sony canceled
two more PlayStation projects. Jason Schryer over at Bloomberg has
reported two unannounced games were canceled at Bend and Blue Point.
They were both live service games. Uh, Bend was working on.
Blue Point was working on a God War live live
service game. What was Bend working on? We don't know,
just a live game service game. Okay, this this happened
because of Concord, Like, like, let would be clear. That's
what I've been told. Is this happens not a meme.
That's just not a meme. You know, I means with
them online, But that is real. It is because of Concord.
Uh and it is what what everyone you know, you
look at it, what do you think? What do you
think it is? It's that it is. Sony is shell
shocked from Concord and now they're going around to every
studio and they are reassessing every single project. And if
it's a live service project, it has a lot of
friction going against it, preventing it from getting a chance
to actually come out, uh to the point where it's like, Okay, now,
these studios, these were their projects. This is what they
were working on. Maybe they had some other stuff going
on in the background, but these were their main projects.
If they are going to want to have to pitch
new projects now, and it is almost certain that they
won't be able to get a green light on a
on a live service project and they know that, so
don't expect that from these which I think most people
will take as good news. But the bad news there
maybe is that these studios were kind of like had
a pathway to continue to get a lot of funding
from Sony because Sony was going so hard on live
service games, and now they got to come up with
a pitch that maybe he's a more traditional game, and
how like, what is Sony's appetite for that? Right? Like
we've heard the rumors from Andy over to VGC that
they're working on smaller games, deep cuts, bringing back some
old ip and things like that, but those would be
smaller projects, things that come out more quickly. Are they
going to want to make a quad a jumping flash mic?
Probably not. So how did these studios sort of come
up with the pitches that get Sony excited without a
sort of like being too too big that like Sony
doesn't want to actually give them money over. So these
studios are still in rough positions, but they are no
longer working on live service games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Blue Point at least, you know
it should it should just be obvious. Hey, let's have
them do it another remake? Hey shoutout classes that one? Well,
let's remake Eco. Why not? Right, like do something kind
of safe, Like that's the part of it that also
pisses me off, Jeff. Besides, like the security of all
these people obviously, but this was a lot of just
time and money and resources wasted on these talented studios
on these live service games. And like that God of
War Life service. What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: What do you mean a God of Warlife Service game?
Like did a I pitched that one too? Like, like
what the fuck does that even mean? So now they
spent years working on that when the Places of five
already has a problem just not enough first party exclusives.
We're lucky to get a couple of year and then
one of them is a concord or something like that.
So yeah, just baffling that they went in so hard
in this live service direction and it was funny. It
was like for Health divers too, right, like, hey, this
is going okay, then it just immediately creat harder than
you could possibly imagine. It can't be understated how much
Concord flopped, Like it's not like it's not like trying
to be a joke about anymore, trying to be mean
historic flop that they got, you know, cold feet about
pretty much every other project like this, everything right any
before that, right, same thing we are. We had that
with Naughty Dog and Faction. So another waste of resources
and time, time that could have been spent maybe you know,
working on Intergalactic or something else. But yes, especially bad
when this is like the main thing for a serious
It would have been better for Ben to actually have
made days gone to than this. And maybe hey, they
just pitched that now that game didn't make money. At
least it's better than taking another weird live service gamble here,
I think if a guy just worry about making good,
interesting games again than just trying to chase what the
trend is, and then by the time you're ready to
make that game, it's four years into development, it gets
canceled anyways.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, it is. It's frustrating because I feel
like we all just stand on the side and be like,
like you said, what do you mean by God of
War Live service game? But you know that's the kind
of pitch that was getting greenlit because because you know,
you're a studio and you're like, what can we say
to these people to get the money we need to
keep all these people working. And it's like they want
to hear live service and they want to hear an
ip that they feel good about. And someone's already making
a Horizon mmo, so what do we have a God
of War live service. Let's just let's see if we
can make that make sense to them. And then, you know,
the Sony executives don't have a vision. Not that they're
alone in the industry not having a vision. Very sure,
a few companies have a good idea of what's coming next,
but they don't have a vision. They hear that and
it's like, Okay, this is the solution to our problems
going forward and now, and that like it just took
Concord to like shake them away and be like, oh,
this is not the answer, and Yeah, it's just it's
going to take time for them to kind of figure
out what's next. Oh and so if you were looking
forward to something from Blue Point or Bend, it's gonna
be years and years and years before they were able
to get something out.
Speaker 4: What's gonna happen with Bunch of Games and fair Bunch, Yes,
Bunchie and Monathon, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean, but Fair Games was far enough along day like, well,
I guess we'll try, I'll release it.
Speaker 2: I think that's the case with Fair Games, where they're
gonna just try because it was close enough and people
feel good about that game. But they also felt good
about Concord, So who knows. As far as Bungie. You know,
Bungie is the same conversation we had when all that
stuff went down with Bungie, which was, you know, the
news about like, hey, the future of Destiny too, uh
and that and then all those people getting laid off,
some people getting moved into Sony, which is, hey, we
got to try to make more money from from Destiny
to even though we're gonna put less work into it,
that still needs to make even more money. And then
Marathon has to hit hard and be a perfect success
and then at that point Bunchie can maybe get back
on its feet and have a long term vision for
its future. And the meantime, like you've basically got to
draw an inside straight. You got to like you're waiting
for you know, the seven o' clubs, and that's the
only card that you can win with. That feels like
the situation that Bungee's in. So yeah, it's just there's
just yeah, it's rough in every direction for a big
company making video games like Sony and the traditional games business.
Not that it's like super easy and mobile or anything
like that, but it's just, you know, it feels so stagnant,
so a kneemick in terms of obvious growth that these
companies are. They're not even flailing anymore. They are sort
of turtling and becoming very defensive and very conservative, and
you know, they've have laid off a lot of people
all across all these companies, and so it's like their
chance of them being the ones to make the next
big game that will grow and pop off is reduced.
So it's just kind of not a great great situation
anywhere in the industry, and especially at a company like Sony,
Right now all right, let's see those are the big
topics that we wanted to talk about. Let's take a
quick break when we come back, Mike, can you read
some super chats for me?
Speaker 1: Of course? Of course.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll do that right after this. All right, Mikey,
we're back. Thanks everybody for tuning in and listening. We
got some super chats we should read those. Go ahead,
take it away, Thank everybody.
Speaker 1: Big fresh thirty seven s is Mario's definitely not until holiday,
definitely is strong. I am like, again, I'm not optimistic
about launch anymore. Maybe I'm kind of just preparing myself
for that at this point. Part of me is like
maybe still hope for you know, like in that Splatoon
two slot with the first switch right something like that.
But hey, if it's holiday, so be it. I'll get
it this year. I'll be happy enough. I mean, maybe
they switch to is holiday, like you know, like we
don't know yet, so.
Speaker 2: But I get the sense that it probably isn't or
not that it probably isn't, but it could come out
in May, and that Mario Kark could be there right
at that time, and Nintendo maybe makes a bigger deal
because if it is a big, open world style Mario Kart.
To me, that makes it feel like a bigger deal
than just another Mario Kart. Maybe that's unfair, but that's
how I feel. And that can carry the system through launch,
through the summer, and then you get the other side
of summer, you get the August September. If you have
Mario there, that's gonna hit super hard, and that can
carry it through the holidays. So yeah, that's probably close
to how it goes down. I will be okay with that.
Speaker 1: Big Fresh thirty seven says if the God of Work
game was just that rogue light mode with two to
four players, that could have ruled Oh soo Mario Kart
ten will get d youc his entire jed I bet
ahould No.
Speaker 2: I bet it would have been fun. I bet they
would have made a good game, like a successful live
service game that like justifies this studio spending their time
doing this instead of something else.
Speaker 1: No way, Yeah, I mean, how do you keep people
coming back to that? It's difficult.
Speaker 2: You but weird skins in it from you know, the
latest popular TV show Severance, Like it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Mark Karten will get You'll see his entire jen.
I mean we thought that about Mario Kartiate Deluxe and
then like it did it for years until the end.
We thought that about Animal Crossing, like that seemed obvious
to get constant DLC support. It didn't. It's just it's
just not usually unintended does things. Maybe it's gonna change.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I mean their DLC is is
them selling that same game at the same price to
a new customer five years later, and they make more
money doing that than other companies make by selling DLC.
Speaker 1: Simon from Saskatchewan says, no new Bike Club on YouTube.
What Mike could do this time? I was the only
one who predicted what was gonna happen. I try to
warn everybody.
Speaker 2: We got a copyright close to a strike, we got
a warning. We got a copyright warning because the game
Terminator three Rise to the Machine straight up shows long
uncut scenes from the movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did Dan do his sensitivity training or whatever?
Speaker 2: That is not yet but he everyone agrees he's the
one doing it, and people want him to stream it.
I'll see if that's allowed.
Speaker 1: What are you guys like editing it to put it
back up or what's going on with that.
Speaker 2: That's such a good question, Mike. You're a smart guy, So.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I assume, so I will double check with Jan and
Sean and see what they think.
Speaker 1: All right, Cyber Saskatchewan says, last week I said an
old timey nineteenth century swear liver disturber, like you two.
I thought it was something with alcohol. Nope, it means
a massive penis.
Speaker 2: Oh we assume it was a man's well okay, never rhy.
It could be anybody's liver.
Speaker 1: All right, there you go, Cyrus Sasquatchewan was a bunch
here in to beginning. Thank you so about Simon, Simon says,
when will we start here? He switched to pro rumors.
Give that what two years, two months, two months, let's go.
Speaker 3: You know what that's as now? She was like, yeah,
there might go on.
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, there you go. We'll just go with that.
We'll say Nate said it. Simon says, rest in peace,
David Lynch, have you three watched twin Peaks?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: But somehow I've seen a racer ahead. So I've seen that.
I've seen blue velvets. I've seen quite a lot. Very
talented filmmaker, for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen the first season of Twin Peaks and
really really loved it. And I've seen a handful of
other Lynch stuff. Mulhan drive that was him, right, Yeah, yep,
I love Lynch. I just I also just love his
like personality, his vibe, his interviews, everything about him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I repeat the goo.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to say it because it makes me
very sad, but will us a great human being?
Speaker 3: Like for real, for real at time?
Speaker 2: So we lost?
Speaker 1: Simon says, have you seen a doc trailer for George
Romero's Resident Evil movie? What's that happened? Who would you
like to start Resident Evil movies?
Speaker 2: Again?
Speaker 1: Jordan Peele would be cool? You know me, Jeff, I
don't really care. I just like, I don't know what
you could possibly do to make me care about Resident
Evil movie anymore. Really.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the kind of thing where I would probably
be interested if someone told me it was like this
inventive new take on the genre. Short of that, I
am fine, But I suppose someone like Jordan Peele could
deliver that, so it'd.
Speaker 1: Be more interesting than I would expect, right, exactly, Yes,
better than Paul ws Anderson again, I suppose, right, Big
Fresh thirty seven says, are the electromagnetics strong enough to
hurt a kid that they get their fingers in between
the joy coln in the dock?
Speaker 2: Probably not? No, probably not. Nintenda would have definitely thought
about that. They made their game cards taste like shit,
specifically because they were worried about kids eating them, so
this would have been probably the first thing they would
have brought up. So No, that's probably why it's like
a deep well where it's actually kind of hard to
even get your fingers in there before it activates, And
the thing probably doesn't activate until it's a little bit closer.
Speaker 1: A lot of people kind of freaking out about like
the magnet connector there being a big fail point thing.
The kids are gonna drop it, it's gonna snap off,
or something like that. You think that's found it at all?
Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's always reasons to assume a
piece of technology could have fail points, But until we
get in our hands, I don't see the point in
being all anxious about it.
Speaker 1: Andy G says Love the show. Is there any chance
the joycn mouse feature could be used for a Mario
Kart track editor? The idea of having community made tracks
could be amazing. Well, that's interesting. I haven't thought about that, Jeff.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I think that what this should say
is that Nintendo will probably have UGC sort of ideas
in a lot more games than they would have otherwise.
Maybe what maybe instead of getting a Mario Maker three,
which is what I want, but maybe instead of that,
they just sort of take the tools that were that
made that and game maker garage work and they apply
that to more of it, more of the games as
just a mode in all the stuff they make, so
people can just make their own stuff.
Speaker 1: Big Fresh thirty seven, so that's kind of funny. Had
the idea of skins and Kart that's why DK looks weird.
How about wedding Bowser, Firefighter, Luigi Apit Mario, Mario Kart
towerk kind of did it once again?
Speaker 2: That's pretty interesting. Yeah, yeah, I think that is. Uh,
it's pretty likely. I think I don't know if it'll
be like a whole skin market. Uh, but you know,
why wouldn't attend to what more money? So yeah? Maybe?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now I'm like, okay, so that's like the Donkey
Kong movie skin and me. That's why it looks like that.
Speaker 2: I think that's just how Donkey Kong looks in this
game personally, But yes, what what do you think?
Speaker 1: It's like? Some people don't like that. I kind of
like him looking like that big beefy boy there.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my take is I fucking love it. I think
he looks awesome. I love this crazy, weird looking bastard
of Donkey Kong. Now it just reminds me of old
Donkey Kong. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: It's funny because gosh, like I don't know, I associate
Donkey Kong like with like last looks or new looks
happening in games, because the first Mario card and Supernintendo
that was still Donkey Kong Junior. Remember that? Yeah that's
pre dk c Uh. Pretty dude says not switch to related?
How dare you know? It's fine? Says not switch you related?
But did you see that Bloomberg article about Bluepoint?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Absolutely insane having your revered remaster studio work and gives
us a service. Do we even see a blue Point
game this gen?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: And that's well, I mean, we had we had souls. Yeah,
but then you know, I get what you mean. It's
it is kind of wild that. Yeah, they just might
not be anything else from that from them and nothing
from Bend this whole generation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because what we're well, I mean, the other thing
I heard is that Blue Point and Bend found out
this news at the same time as all the rest
of us. So that means they are just going to
begin restarting their projects now, and we're talking beginning twenty
twenty five. We're thinking a PlayStation five by the end
of twenty twenty eight, so six, PlayStation six, thank you.
But at best we're maybe talking about a cross gen
game at that point. Wow. Yeah, So yeah, I mean,
I guess there's always a possibility maybe they do make
one of these smaller games, but if we were talking
about like them showing off their full force, yeah, it's
probably gonna be twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1: B Travid says the boring switch to to user killed
David Lynch was in April. Direct. Do you think June
is the most likely released month?
Speaker 2: Now? Not the most I just don't think Some are
just isn't a good time to watch a console like this.
It's like you want to There's there's times where it's like, hey,
people are maybe spring break and they have a little
bit of time to get something, but they know they've
got school coming up again. I think you just don't
want it. When people could easily be on summer vacation,
they're not thinking about spending time at home on the
TV ten.
Speaker 1: Derek says, which of these releasing this year? Do you
believe it is a bigger deal to the gaming audience
as a whole GTA six or switched to. Was just
curious about this. I mean, you know, I have my biases.
I think it's so sho. I think it turned for
video game companies. It's definitely switched to because everybody, like
most people have an opportunity to make money there where
GTA six is just Rockstar. I mean, look, I mean
the switch to cells one hundred million consoles are just
like seventy million. I guess that's what'd still be less
than maybe GTA six cells.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I one game selling so well, even
ridiculously well, is that as is that is impactful to
an entire audience as a whole console?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't think so. I mean I get that
GJ six will just like be a platform for a
lot of people because it'll have the game, and it'll
have online and it'll have role play and then there's
all those like user generated stuff. Like for a lot
of people it is like Fortnite, It's just the thing
they play. I get that. You're right though, switch To
is a whole new, actual platform. They will have surprises
that you couldn't never expect. So yeah, I think it's
like maybe Gridfaft title six, so you know exactly, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Bander Essen says Mario Carter Horizons explorable world with handcrafted
tracks scattered throughout and a battle Royale mode encompassing the
whole map. I mean it's like, I don't want to
get my hopes up now because this all sounds amazing,
but like maybe maybe, yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that's if you are sitting around you have
to make the Mario Kart follow up to eight Deluxe.
If someone mentions this in a meeting, I think it's
hard not to get excited to be like that. Yeah,
maybe that is the answer.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, Sumi Mex says, what would be a fun
title for the new Mario Kart Having them be numbered
still feels weird when only the last few have been
As always loved the show, I always respected Mario Kart
for going back to numbers. I want to blame them
for wanting to do something with a title that maybe
conveys this direction. That's what's happening. Oh yeah, yeah, Maria
Mario Kart Freedom or something like that. Mario Mario Kart Open,
like the Open Road, Mario Car, Mario Kart, Marco Kart
for you. There you go. I love it. Yeah, I'm
non particularly to Mario Kart Open.
Speaker 2: There you go. That's a good idea. That's like, yeah,
double and Tundra sort of thing happened in the area.
I like that.
Speaker 1: Chris Pratt says. The Nintendo switch to seems nice, but
no mention if Mario Arcade is coming has me concerned.
Speaker 2: Oh buddy, yeah, listen, I hear. The good news is.
I know it's confusing because Nintendo can be an obtuse company.
It has backward compatibility, and Mario Arkad is on the
switch right now. Buddy, don't get it and you'll be
ready to go. There you go, Chris Pratt, good news
for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're fine. Chris Son Louie five four six with
their first super Chat, thanks so much, said, never Supercherer
or watch live. But I'm here just a gloat that
I got Mario Kart and your fantasy critically counterpick Spoon Heaven.
Even though I'd really like.
Speaker 2: To play it this year, I try to say, ah,
try Penis ran out of characters.
Speaker 1: I still think that could maybe be a launch game.
Jeffs Spoon Heaven aka yeah, Hollow Night Silk Song.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you are making that game and you
want to have the best possible launch, launching on switch
too is the key to just like instant success. I mean,
it's gonna be a hit no matter what. But we're
talking about massive amounts of money right away if you're
on the switch to it launch.
Speaker 1: I mean, just think about how well games like Snake
Pass or whatever did early on with the first switch right,
come on, Jeff, it's actually soak song. Hey, I bet
you're gonna get a lot of points from Mario Kart. Yeah,
good call on there.
Speaker 2: Let me just fine.
Speaker 1: And charliad Wolf says the ideas this which Mouse inspire
is unreal, kid, Chris Uprising, Mario makers sent it punishment, ooh,
prime for and more. I love Nintendo so so much.
Speaker 2: He didn't even bring up Geist. Yeah he did not
bring up guyst Well, what about this elite beat agents.
What about Elite Beat agents.
Speaker 1: Oh you just got a.
Speaker 2: Little curse on the screen? Boom boo boom boo boom.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Then I wonder is that is it enough for
them to just be like, yeah, we can do DS
virtual console. Is that too much?
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's possible. I think it's
possible that this kind of leads to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh baby, I hope so. Jesse second says, predict
the following game releases windows and dates. Okay, so what
the time you're here? Next? Three d Mario. I think
it's August.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say I'll say September. Then two Intergalactic. Uh,
it's not this year. No, that's the one. There was
a bunch of things in that keeley that said twenty
twenty five, and this was not one of them.
Speaker 1: Holiday twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds good to me. But I'll go I'll
go February twenty twenty six. Be very optimistic.
Speaker 1: Wolverine. Do we think Wolverine is this year?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, yeah, I'm gonna say holiday this year.
I'm gonna say Summer twenty twenty six. Actually, yep, that's
totally reasonable as well.
Speaker 1: GTA six. I think that's this October March of next year.
Oh you think it gets laid better not be I
have that in the fancy critic.
Speaker 2: I think it's March of next year.
Speaker 1: Okay, well we'll see next three. D Zelda is the
last one here.
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 1: That's Tiers. The kid came out two years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was last year.
Speaker 1: No wait, yeah, oh last year twenty twenty Okay, yeah,
it's early twenty eight five. They came out twenty twenty three,
say almost two years ago. Okay, dang, So there's seven
years between them, so that could be like, that could
be five years away. Games are only taking longer to make. Jeff,
So twenty thirty April twenty thirty.
Speaker 3: Oh may that may damage to my soul When you
said that.
Speaker 2: I know it's I mean, he's right though, that's only
five years away, Like twenty twenty nine would be an
insane thing to say. So yeah, I think I'll say
twenty I'm gonna say twenty thirty two because that's gonna
keep getting delayed, plenty.
Speaker 1: Of time for them to finally give us a win waker.
Speaker 2: Yep, Jesus, that's nuts man.
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe that's why they held off on wind Waker.
So I printed someone's like, look, there's gonna be an
actual drought of Zelda games coming eventually just to you wait, I.
Speaker 2: Mean at the very least, though, I mean probably probably
won't take that long because they will want to have
Zelda on this console. But boy, yeah, at the very least,
here's the Kingdom Breath of While both very good games,
I will be happy to go back to when Nintendo
re releases them to explore those games. So yeah, I
don't you think we ever get two like the main
line like big three d Zoto games on one generation again,
I grant it, we only kind of this time or
last time, right, Yeah, I think that they will follow
this tradition of here's something totally new and then we're
going to reuse the map and do another sequel to that.
But they will probably try to like think about that
the like as they're making the first game, so it
doesn't take seven years to make the sequel game this time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, El Grug said, I'm most likely going to be
out of the country when that April Nintendo Direct happens,
So can Jeff tell me a fridge Racer will be there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it'll be there. That's where it's gonna show.
Speaker 1: I was reading some random red thread on our gaming
leaks and Rumors or something, and somebody brought up, like
you like what you said about something with the switch
to reveal before it happened, and so I was like,
somebody was like, yeah, but what does he have to
say about Ridge Racer And I was like, oh no,
oh yeah, yeah, let's go.
Speaker 2: Let know, I did see us a music YouTuber that
reacts to music. A bunch of other audience suggested Ridge
Racer type four and she reacted to it and they
saw that video. Yeah, and all the comments were like,
it's not just that, it's like inspiring to people to
do graphic design, Like there's a whole school graphic design
that is inspired by this game and stuff like that.
And yeah, there was just a lot of reverence for
it in that video. So it's pretty cool to see.
Speaker 1: I have that video my watch layer list. I haven't
watched it yet. I've been you know, I'll be excited
to do it hopefully this weekend, long weekend, I get.
Monday off is the next thing. Yep, yeah, Monday Off
next is ol grug it says, I'm most likely going
to be out of the country when that April Nintendo
Direct happened, So gett as the one I read the
bulletproof Mood says, gotta say, very disappointed that Nintendo didn't
announce the Nintendo sixty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't blame you. Eventually, man, I ordered my
ever drive for my my Spice Orange and sixty four
back here still not here waiting for it.
Speaker 1: Wave Crockett says, switch one direct when apparently February maybe so.
Speaker 2: Currently Yeah, I mean that makes sense because there was
some across wires there where people were expecting the February
to Direct to be about to switch to and now
it's like, well, no, there's apparently there's still one coming,
so must be focused on Switch one. And I guess
that's maybe the word people are getting. Now, Yeah, that's
that sounds right to me. I hope, because they do
have a few things they need to clear up there.
They do need to say what's happening with Metroit Prime.
Speaker 1: Forjeffitely have so many super chats. It's been amazing. Thank
you oh so much. We're like halfway through what we
have right now.
Speaker 2: Wow. I just scrolled down I did not realize that,
you know what. Yeah, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1: Take a break, I gotta go, you know, maybe take
care of some bathroom stuff.
Speaker 2: Let Mikey take care of his business. Everybody, We'll be
right back after this. All right, we got our break in,
but we got a lot more super chats to get through,
so and again, thank you everybody. Keep them coming. We'll
answer every single one, but Mike, let's get back into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Spikey, another first time super chatter, says between the
maybe campus sea button stuff, maybe he's a joy con
as a mouse and the play test game is this
it's going to be the switch all about creating. Yeah,
I mean, gosh, especially you know we talked about that,
you know Mario Kart tracks. Hey, when Animal Crossing comes down,
this thing, I think the Creation Suite there's going to
be more robust than ever too, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the way that they should convey this
is you get a man, a bald man in a
blazer and a hoodie to sit criss cross Apple sauce
on the stage and he says, my name is Jay Allard,
and here is skater Girl eight or whatever her name was.
In that presentation, for the Xbox three sixty and here's
how you can put skateboards into video games. Yeah, they
should definitely just do that presentation all over again. I
think Nintendo could make this whole concept work where it's like,
it doesn't feel super corporatey, it feels weird and odd,
and that is kind of the the energy you need
to make creation stuff feel like it's actually a fun
thing you want to engage with. And Yeah, I think
if Nintendo can just sort of have a bunch of
games that have those modes built in, I will be
I'll be pretty excited if every game is just also
a Mario Maker alongside like being a good game. That
sounds like a pretty good generation to me. Yeah, Philocity Girl,
thank you.
Speaker 1: David Alex says, I just finished the Eering DC and
now I'm at a loss for what to play next.
What's a good JPG knock out? An under thirty hours
vagan story vacancy. That's true. If you played Earth's Bound,
it's pretty good. Turns out. I kind of want to
try out that remster of Tales of Grace's f that
just came out. I think that's been getting good reviews
of you. Okay, something a bit more action RPG, but
those tales of games are usually thirty hours. Isha espec
an older one.
Speaker 2: Fuck you.
Speaker 1: I like Final Fantasy thirteen much. I defend that game more.
I admit it's faultse. I defend that game more so
than most people we got.
Speaker 2: Christian has just been wounded enough times. He just assumes
you're gonna lash out a few Final Fantasy yes, yes, no,
All thirteen fans are like this, yes.
Speaker 4: Bro in TikTok, this is this is this love form
Final I found that he's thirteen. I didn't know they
were solos like me.
Speaker 3: I was so happy. It was like, oh, this is louk,
how beautiful this game is. I'm like, yeah, you're right,
it's a beautiful.
Speaker 1: It's very pretty.
Speaker 2: That that reminds me of how excited I was to
see someone on Blue Sky talking about how they hate
number of generations, and then I saw Mad piscatell reskeat that,
and I'm just like, oh, man, I'm back, let's go.
Let's get back into the fight.
Speaker 1: You got to take that win. After the fire Escape
Crew just like had a whole hate fest on lenks Awake,
acting like everyone agrees it's Oh did you listen to
that yet.
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm going to, but boy, I just don't.
I really don't want to, but I will have to.
Speaker 1: Her part was Mike Bahardy uh, saying like, oh yeah,
I used to like that game, but that was just
because I was a pretentious snop.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I want to throttle these people. It's
maybe the worst video game podcast. I think it is.
Speaker 1: No way, Mary sent me a chicken sauce. We're cool. Uh,
super harmon, says Mike. I'm playing Crimson Skies. It's great.
It sure is. Uh. They should make another one of those,
that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Can we just play that online or do we have
to do anything funky? We probably have to do something funky.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a good question. It definitely has,
you know, backwards compatibility and stuff. I don't know how
you just play it online. That'd maybe if we could
parsec that that would be a fun one. Yeah, gosh,
that's a launch gain. My one is a Rogue Squadron four.
But I don't think that's gonna been. But boy, that
would be amazing.
Speaker 2: That that would rule.
Speaker 1: Just bring back Factor five, Yeah, yeah, just bring them back.
Come on, what are they doing?
Speaker 2: I tell you what they did on the Switch was
they made the Hulu app. That's the people that worked
at Factor five went on to like make apps for
the Switch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so they're out there. Willa David says, gay
mess is my favorite muck bang.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Look, everybody, I'm sorry, all right, a conflated
muck bang and PC bang happens just because I'm a
dumb man.
Speaker 1: Alian Miracle said, there's a marker board somewhere in Nintendo
R and D with Switch E across the out. Yeah,
I do. I would love to like to see the
short list because they had to at least they have
to go through process. They have to vet and like
market tests of their names a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet they're not the kind of company that
like pays an outside marketing firm to like give them
a bunch of ideas. But you're right, they definitely internally
had a ton Rest Pratt with a spicy one.
Speaker 1: Here. It's like, well, actually it's a Mario car ten,
the same as it should have been Super Switch.
Speaker 2: Look just right, I'm sorry, just right. Yeah, I'm not
the one that says it. Nintendo says it, all right.
The Mario Kart tours is Mario kurt nine. According to them,
they're crazy, but that's what they say.
Speaker 1: Uh. Screaming Man says, I beat Sly two on Tuesday.
It was awesome and here's two reasons why to play it. One,
Peter McConnell composed the OSC two you get to dance
with Karma Lita Fox. I definitely want to play these
games at some point this year. It's on my to
do list.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen Carmelita Fox, but I'm just gonna say
it's side unseen. Would yeah, I'm very excited.
Speaker 1: I get to be one of the obnoxious earthbound people
now and I would love to have that with Sly
also seems oh yeah, yeah, Slies one that I always
have like hovering are like, that's what I should play.
Speaker 2: I think I have it ready to go on the
Steam deck. I should just start it up. Make it
my January game.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Or says, is any of Nintendo's supply chain in
the US could tariffs affect the price in Canada?
Speaker 2: Some like a couple of things really, mostly the supply
chains in Mexico. But but I do imagine that some
stuff like comes through the United States and then goes
to Canada, but because tariffs have been around for a while,
they try to avoid that where they can. They probably
just try to ship it directly to Canada where possible.
But you know, bad news, Jonathan. You guys are already
pay a lot of money for a lot of extra
for your stuff there, so that will continue whether the
tariffs hit you or not.
Speaker 1: Next up, music with Friends, says Mike. I'm going to
Disney World tomorrow for the first time since two thousand.
The only things on my half to list are the
People Mover and Muppet Vision three D. Let's fucking go, man,
those are the two correct ones there. Hey, but if
you find yourself in Animal Kingdom, definitely go to the
Nomad Lounge too if you can. Hey, hope you have
a lot of fun music with friends. I'm jealous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that sounds like a good time.
Speaker 1: Garwalk says, But how hd is the rumble in the
new joy Cons four K rumble?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they'll they'll probably just have exactly what
they had in the Switch because that worked fine, and
there will be a lot of developers who maybe just
take the stuff that they had for the PlayStation's pretty
good haptics and apply that to the joy cons man.
Speaker 1: I remember, like a few years ago, was terrified that
they would try to make the console very four K
focus no matter what, because that was like a bit
that was like the one thing all the TVs were
still trying to do to get He put an upgrade
four K, this four K that I was worried the
new switch would just be called the switch four K. Right, Yeah,
that's clearly not a giant emphasis on this thing at least.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think they know they've already kind of
missed the window on that being the marketing push, and
really it's not Nintendo to go that way anyhow, even
though they did HD.
Speaker 1: Rumble right, Yeah, Johnny Blace's grub. Are you worried of
losing your Leaker of the Year crowd to Nate this year?
Speaker 2: No, No, He's earned it. I think shout outs to
him for coming out and saying, like again, we mentioned
a lot of people had heard this, but he was
confident he knew what he was talking about. He put
his back on the line for it, put his neck
on the line, and then stood his ground. I I
was very impressed, and it's always know what he's talked about.
He knew what he was talking about back when, like
Switch Pro was this thing. All that stuff was true.
It just Nintendo changed their plans and people gave him
a hard time for that. But the whole time was
like what he's saying is accurate. I don't get why
you people don't understand that, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there are some people that were ready to
like they wanted his head yesterday because they didn't announce
the announcement something that he never said was going to happen.
So yeah, it is nice to see though, Like in
a lot of the threads, Jeff even like before it happened,
like you can't trust him because he said Woodwick Rich
he was gonna come to switch at twenty twenty one.
I'm like, hell yeah, not just us people holding that
one over their heads still, man.
Speaker 2: It's it's a lot of us got gotten the crossfires
of Nintendo being weird about Zelda.
Speaker 4: Heye, beside the showy con change and not gonna to
this kind of feels like a switch bro.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, this is clearly the switch Pro just a
little bit more. It's one they took the switch Pro
and they're like, let's just add a few more things
to it. Take a little bit more time, go back
and worth work with Nvidia a little bit more, and
just release this as the switch to a little bit later.
Speaker 1: That is exactly what happened. Pixels and thoughts. Remember for
five years in the link it's here, think you said,
think Ambos make it to switch too, and they talk
about that very much.
Speaker 2: Huh. I bet they just have an NFC reader in
the in the one of the joy Con thumb sticks probably.
Speaker 1: Clearly not gonna be as important as they were around
the time the original switch launch, which is too bad.
I like Amibas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm fine with Mimbos. I don't want to
use them in a race against my friends.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was insane that he was like, no, obviously,
obviously we should get to use the Bowser meble to
skip the major gameplay mechanic of Bowser's fury. Like, what
are you talking about?
Speaker 2: They put that in there for kids, Dan, Come on,
this is the guy who.
Speaker 1: Like when I talked about how much he liked on
Crustables for whole podcast, and nobody, nobody had that heart
to be like that is the ultimate just kids, nothing's
wrong with the Incrustables. It's fine. Ah, Chrono rig says,
I think the fact that gave us the actual date
of the switch too, director is great. Now we don't
have to be guessing or depending on rumors. It is great.
Speaker 2: I did like all the people who thought it was
gonna be.
Speaker 1: On February fourth because of you know, European uh dates
stuff and whatnot.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, yeah they didn't. They just straight up
say April in the video, just spelled out April. I thought,
I think it's said for two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sorry, Europeans may be a mistake on their part.
Don't do that next time.
Speaker 4: Don't say European. Say that I'm sorry the entire world
minus us, because that's what it works. He ses you
they don't say hees Europe.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, but how do you say it.
Speaker 1: The world?
Speaker 2: What is today's date? Christian?
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 2: What is? What is? The date?
Speaker 3: Is seventeen General.
Speaker 2: January sixteenth, twenty twenty five. So yeah, you had Okay,
you're right. I will give you that one, but you
have to give me that the imperial system is better
than no, no, no, no, you can all right, fine there,
I knew that would work.
Speaker 1: Adam Pacio says, Pickman Warriors confirmed. I would probably get
at least one more of these random Nintendo Warriors games.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it would own if it was that weird
Mario when we heard a while back, which was of
course like just heard like bouncing Aroun is one of
those weird rumors not heard from like someone at Nintendo. Uh,
that would own. I still want that, But yeah, I
think you're right, we probably get one more of these
weird ones.
Speaker 1: Hit says Jeff. Please tell me I'll be able to
play Gears on PC and a master Chief Collection type
collection soon. Slash Ever, how does Xbox not know this
is a no brainer to hype up Emergence Day? Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they probably do. I like, you know,
that's nick a special Nick is is the Gears rumor.
He still thinks that that's going to happen, And why
wouldn't it be right before e Eday comes out? I
think I think that sounds right to me. I think
it probably comes to PlayStation even, let alone PC and
then master Chief Collection. We've heard that's that's coming to
apparently Switch, So why wouldn't that come to everything else?
Speaker 1: Rogers O G says, where's win Waker? Jeff parentheses. Cheers
you too hard, Thank you, thank you Rogers.
Speaker 2: I think Mike nailed it where it's like we start
talking about Whin's the next Zelda after after this stuff,
after echoes of WHI them, and you've realized there's going
to be a several year gap and you want to
fill that in with something. Why not this?
Speaker 1: The bad news is for the next couple of years
there might you might have, you know, Breaths of the
While sixty fps and then here's The Kingdom sixty fs
to fill those gaps, so that.
Speaker 2: It might not be but it could be.
Speaker 1: It could be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope.
Speaker 1: So. I bet at some point on the Switch to
His Life when Waker will be on there. Yep, they
did just add the soundtrack on the on a ton
of music that doesn't mean anything, but hey, they did
they remember that game exists. A guard walk says switch
to exclusive pure focus tiers of the Kingdom dealcy at
launch goes what we want Nintendo, Jeff, I heard that
you're something of a pure fan. Actually, yeah, I don't
know if people figured that out.
Speaker 2: I try to keep it on. I keep it on
the down lo keep it pretty quiet. U.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I would love this absolutely big Jimbo Ryan
uh says, stop can stop canceling projects like green Lit,
my legacy, that face, You're the You're the big Jim
Ryan Fann, Jeff. You know he's become a bit of
a kind of a punching bag for this.
Speaker 2: You think that's fair, it's a little unfair because, look,
I will people are right to point out that he
got out while the getting is good. I've definitely said
that a million times, and I feel that way where
it's like he saw where everything was going, realized it
was going to be really tough and probably not work,
and got out while it was like PlayStation five on
top of the world, all these games, winning Game of
the Year, Peace, good luck with all the Live Service games.
So yeah, he did that, but it's not like he
was there alone on a throne deciding what PlayStation would
be doing going forward. He should take responsibility for a
lot of it, But a lot of people thought Live
Service was the answer across that company, up and down,
left and right. The people that make the games that
they they're like, I think this is where they want
us to pitch them. So they pitched that, and then
it goes through Herman Holst goes through all these people,
gets up to Jim Ryan eventually, and Jim Ryan hears
the plan, right. Someone presents to him the plan and
then he gives a thumbs up to that. But the
plan was probably made by a lot of other people,
so it's it's a little unfair. But hey, he was
getting paid the big bucks. So if people want to
treat him as a punching bag, he's retired in London
of the.
Speaker 1: Fucking round now, so go ahead, go go to town,
have fun. I mean, he says earlier, but nobody knows.
Nobody's been right, right. Xbox was all in on Game Pass. Well,
that didn't work out necessarily, right, all the all the
people who are on the freaking blockchain train a bit
Ago and whatever other trains there are. Turns out the
only thing that has worked is be lucky and happen
to make a giant hit. Yeah, you'll begin or be
back in twenty eleven when all these things were popping
off and you could just pick off the shelf. Okay,
we're gonna have the Battle Pass, We're gonna have Battle Reale,
We're gonna have this. And if you were in that situation,
you had awesome growth for ten years straight, and now
we're on the other side of that, and everyone's looking
for the next thing, and it's just not like falling
down in front of him like it once was. Like
Epic Games just had Battle Reale fall right in front
of them and they picked it up and are like,
this is mine and and now they are. Now they're
one of those successful gaming companies in the history of
the world. And that just doesn't happen anymore. So yeah,
everyone's it's.
Speaker 4: More like they saw Bob g and they were like
give metally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. Like PUBG Phone,
because it was day Pubg was like going to them,
They're like, hey, we need help with your engine to
make this work, and they're like interesting, Yeah, they're not
the only company that had that sort of thing happened.
It was left and right. Everyone's like looking at mobile
and being like, oh my god, look at all those
live service ideas we could just take. And everyone took it,
and now all that stuff is sort of tapped out
and and no one knows what the next thing is,
and it's yeah, it's kind of causing a problem across
the industry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be those AI games are gonna get any
moment now second now, Bobby down, he says, Jeff, please
beat balder Skate three. So Mike gets a pod slimmer tattoo,
stream it and role players yourself like you gotide into.
Speaker 2: D and D. I I do, I do want to
like stream that game playing it? Yes? Can I stream
it solo? Mike? If we were to stream at solo
every week on Giant Bomb with that counter or did
we say I have to beat it with the with
the jan No? I never.
Speaker 1: I never worried so much about the jan thing. Just
you had to beat boters Gate three.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So I will try to figure out
a way to make that happen. There were some changes
happened into like our stream structured Giant Bomb, where maybe
that might make more sense. Although there is some wind
behind the sales of maybe doing a regular check in
on multiplayer Stardu Valley, So if that happens, maybe that
kind of takes up some time. We'll see. I want
to do this.
Speaker 1: Chris Pratt sis Sony thinks the sea button means canceling games.
Trying lest him got him Chris pretty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is on one.
Speaker 1: He is out of pocket going going absolutely crazy there
Chris Son Tyrant with a no comment but super chat.
Thank you so much, Tyrant, Thank you, ty But hope
what God says you guys should watch Real Housewives? Okay, sure,
I'll do it. STEP's been putting on the.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, RuPaul's drag Race and then you RuPaul's Drag
Race Untucked a lot. And by that, I mean I've
been watching a lot of this because I want to
watch it too, And it's that it is. They go
very hard on that show when I like, here's the
behind the scenes episode. That's what Untucked is, and I'm
just like, oh man, I love this bullshit. I love
when people are just so sassy to one another. So
that's what Rual Hobs Wives is. Like, Yeah, I'll be
into it.
Speaker 1: I forget if I talk to you about this, Dan
after you left. I think, uh, Extra Life showed us
the onion's parody of reality TV called sex House.
Speaker 2: He's mentioned this to me before, and I don't think i've.
Speaker 1: Uh it's very funny. I think everybody should watch sex House.
Speaker 2: But yeah, something sounds very good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hitch says Demon Soul's got to becoming a PC
this year. Right, Well, that's a good point, I hope.
Speaker 2: So that would be awesome. Shit man, that we ran
on Steam Deck, I would play the hell out of that.
Speaker 1: Benji Bop says, you gotta think when Nintendo doesn't make
a joy Con one Rail to Magnet adapter, that's some
third party is going to rake in money making one, right.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess they could make an adapter.
Why couldn't they. I don't know. I guess I don't
think they rake in money though. I think I think
people like to buy new stuff, even though it really
sucks to buy new stuff. In a lot of ways,
people get excited about the new shiny thing and they
will be happy to start their joy concollection over again,
as you know, as sick as that is.
Speaker 1: Ran Corlis says, is the secret Xbox game reveal? Probably
Dragon in Quest twelve? Could they even pull that? Guys
have a more educated guess, love you dearies somewhere somewhere.
I was guessing Resident Evil maybe, but drag Qus twelve. Sure.
Speaker 2: I think as we talked about this on the BombCast
and you said Resident Evil, we brought up Dragon Quest twelve,
and I think that is like on the tier list,
but I think that's like in the B tier in
terms of possibility, I think the most likely ones, well,
what do I say? Was Ninja, Guiden, and Castlevania. Those
are the ones I feel pretty good about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know there's there's but there's a lot
of classic Japanese vide gate franchises there.
Speaker 2: It could be a new Tales of game.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, it's true. Actually, Uh, that boy says,
what about Mario Kart twenty four since there seemed to
be twenty four starting lines in the teaser? Ah, that's
forty less than Mario Kart sixty four though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like lamon, Yeah, like it's a it
could be a twenty four hour open world race. Yeah,
that's it. We talked about that. That'd be great.
Speaker 1: Oh, Beacher says, sorry for my chat regarding lych some
them more rude than intended. I love him though he
was a dark dude. Good for Jeff for doubling down
about release last night. Oh, it's probably the way I
read a Beacher. It's probably my fault. I made it
sound flippant, not your bed.
Speaker 2: Yeah we knew, we knew what you were getting at No. Yeah,
no problem there. Yeah, it was. I definitely was like
I made the like the joke about oh because I
was My daughter's eighth birthday was yesterday and we're kind
of just doing something small during the week, so I
took her to McDonald's play place, and I was in there,
I'm like joking, Oh, I'm in hearing some kids are
talking about Nate to Hate and I told them to like, hey,
it's not even Thursday, so quit being stupid secks a shit,
And I was just kind of like joking around, not
thinking that it would sound like I was. I was
like doubling down, But then when people brought that up,
I was like, you know what, I'm yes. If you
were asking me if I'm doubling down now, I would
say yes. But then I'm like, okay, I think I
even tweeted that or skeated that for a second and
I deleted it because I don't want to be in
a situation where I am making a joke and people
assume I'm doing that, and then I like, then I
get to another situation where it's like, no, I'm clearly
was joking, why do you people think that? And that's
where I always get in trouble in the past and
like have frustrating situations. So I want to make it
clear when I made that joke, I was not actually
doubling down, even though I like later I was like, oh,
I wish I would have been more clear that. Yeah, sure, yeah,
I do think this is still happening.
Speaker 1: I mean we're pretty clear on lessons to dougs. We're
pretty confident we were not making promises. Yeah, we were
feeling pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's it's just what I had heard. Yep, absolutely
doubled down. Yeah, in hindsight, it's like, yeah, I should have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, next up is d d L. Why v N M.
I want Warriowere to make use of the switch to mice.
I mean, if anything's going to you think it would
be a Warrioware game, right. I think you say he
wants to be to use two mice at the same
time to make me use two mice. Oh, but there's
that I was. I've been playing warriworre twisted. There's that
game where like you have to like block things the
two hands. You can like see that like being the
kind of thing even better. Jeff King of Swing, Yeah,
oh my god, King of swing with two mice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Symbiosa says, did switch to ever get a sick code
name like dolphin?
Speaker 2: It must have happened, brow They probably just immediately just
started calling it the switch to Probably Yeah, honestly, you're
probably right.
Speaker 1: Out of Steve says just saw a mouse joycon mode
may be paired with kidd. Chris Uprising HD thoughts someone
else brought that up. Uh makes sense.
Speaker 2: I'm not really played it, Chris Uprising, So I'm just like,
I know useless stylists.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you could just use you know, kind of shit.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, let's do their person shooter.
Speaker 1: Controls in stead.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm Wolf says I haven't heard people make this
perdiction yet, but I think Leegi Mintioned three is ready
for October. Next level takes three year four and releases.
I assume they meant four. Maybe, boy, I think that
would be a good year two game. Jeff, Yeah, I
think so.
Speaker 2: I think you uh get through this holiday and then
you get ready to release that pretty close to next October.
Speaker 1: Again, especially because we're not going to have a new
Legend of Zota game for probably a very long time, right,
So I think you need Lucie's mansion to straight up
anchor year, just like how it surprisingly did anchor a
year for the original switch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think people will be very excited about that.
Next level probably will go all out for this one
because they will They will have a lot of faith
from Nintendo and probably a bigger budget and more time.
So yeah, I would love to see it.
Speaker 1: The Cash says, is this the need for speed? The
run of Mario Kark's got a quick time of it? Man,
we should play the rest?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should. That's a good idea. That's the dream though.
Is a Mario Kart like the run? Yep? Yeah, that's what.
Speaker 1: We've always wanted. Burrito says, guys, do you think that
the switch to his name, slash design and packaging may
be confusing for uninitiated parents? Are relatives of gamers? Kids?
Not a super serious question, just wanted to super g
Thank you Burritos so much now I think they. I
bet the two will somebody be even bigger than we'll
be imagined on the box, and.
Speaker 2: Yet someone will still be confused.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh yeah, somebody's still gonna get like a switch
old or something. Something They're gonna someone's gonna find a
Nintendo two DS and you get that.
Speaker 2: I think it's like people were like confused by the
WU or they just lacked enthusiasm because Nintendo just didn't
position it as something that was as important as a
full new console, even though it was.
Speaker 1: Maybe I think maybe the confusion angle gets a little overplayed.
I think it just wasn't that appealing of the console.
Speaker 2: I think that's what happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think there are a lot
of people confused about what it was in terms of like,
uh like more so than the name that initial reveal.
They didn't show the console because they just showed the
tablet and a lot of people thought, oh, this is
a tablet for the Wii.
Speaker 2: And they didn't like to show the console for a
significant chunk of time after that either. Right, So yeah,
it was sill a weird weird thing.
Speaker 1: Next up is white lens for a super Chat. I
think you white lens. Say's good to see that Joyo
could finally make good on that Genschient Impacts, which show
they put up five years.
Speaker 2: Ago, and they probably will. That might be a launch
game shit, and all those games from my jo Yo
might be so Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised by that.
Speaker 1: Ger Marino says, make the pog slammer shirts. I can
bring it to EVO.
Speaker 2: I'll take him with jan on the status of that art. Yeah, god, I.
Speaker 1: Kind of especially since Marves's Capcom two is gonna be
on the main stage at EVA. Boy, would I like
to maybe would like to be there this year? Oh?
I like Marves's Capcom two. I've been playing that like
That's what I was kind of like playing that on
my switch to kill time until Donkey knk Country Returns
came out, like literally trying to stop myself from starting
another g RPG. I could treat myself with that after
I beat Donkey Kunk Country.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Marvel, it's fun stuff. That is it for
super Chester. Now, if you all still want to get
one in here before we finish the show, we will
still read it on the air. But thank you all
so much for that absolute deluge of super chatting. Really
appreciate it. Yep, absolutely, all.
Speaker 2: Right, let's uh take another quick break, we'll come back.
We'll come back and we probably will just talk about
what we've been playing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say, I don't think I don't think
figuring out the Mount Rushmore Switchkings would take very long.
But we don't have to do it. All right, let's
take a break. Then we'll come back and see, we'll
figure out. We'll talk it out.
Speaker 2: All right, We're back and we are. We're gonna do it.
We're gonna do it. Our game this week is a
Mount Rushmore, and that is going to be the Mount
Rushmore of Nintendo Switch video Games console is wrapping up,
you know, Metro Prime four. Will you know it'll be
what it will be. I think even when we get
to that game and it comes out it being a
Mount Rushmore, just because it'll be so soon, we'll revisit
in the future. I think we could do this now, though, Mike,
where do you want to start? And I guess we
should always say four, picking four games that are emblematic
of the topic. Not necessarily the best, not not necessarily
the most popular, most famous, but emblematic in the way
that the four Presidents Mount Rushmore are emblematic of America
and presidents.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and by the way, I'm not gonna get a
dock ready, but I got some I got some sticky
notes here, so I'll bet we're keeping the track of
it that way, and I'll show every buddy that's that's like.
Speaker 2: That's the analog Google sheets. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, I think we should start with a game
called Breath of the Wild.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I think that's not an insane take for once. Yeah. Uh,
probably put Breath of the Wild, maybe even Locket.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that this game is actually somehow not
given enough credit. I think, yeah, it's the game that
canonized Nintendo. Right like before this, right, we were like, oh,
Nintendo slipping, who knows what's gonna happen to them? And
now Nintendo is an institution that feels like it's never
going away, and part of that is the Switch in general.
But it was Breath for the Wild that gave Switch
that kickstart, that got everybody really excited, that made it
seem like this must have thing because you had to
have the must play game.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I man, I don't think you're even overstating things
because it's I think there was a sense leading up
to the Switch that Nintendo had Mia Moto make a
handful of games, and then the company was riding those
formulas over and over and over again into the ground
and they were never going to be able to replicate
that ever, and then you're right, Breath the Wild came out,
and what's It's made a statement that Nintendo is the
one big major publisher that can take one of its
darlings and do something that feels very new and very essential,
and it's a game that like, you know, a lot
of developers go and they play Hades and they're like, oh,
we have to make our game like Hades, and those
ideas do come from indie indie games a lot of times.
Breath of the Wild was the same exact thing, but
on an even bigger scale, where every developer played Breath
of the Wild and it inspired them to make to
make their changes to the games that they were working
on going forward to the point where it's like Naughty
Dog is talking about wanting to make games more like
Breath of the Wild after the Last of Us Part two.
That's how influential it is.
Speaker 1: So you're right.
Speaker 2: I think before that Nintendo felt like, Hey, they were
riding in the coattails of Miamoto. After that's like, oh no,
this is a Disney like company that is going to
attract people who want to make the next big thing.
Speaker 1: And yah, I like here's the key of a little
bit more. And you know, other people like breath the
while more that's all fine, but breatha weld clearly the
more important one.
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, sorry for sure. Yeah, oh yeah, one of
the most important games of all time. Yeah, it just is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Jeff, what would you suggest?
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean, you know, I think it's obvious. Uh,
and that maybe makes it a little bit weird, but no,
it's super Mario Odyssey. You know, I know they're bang
bang in twenty seventeen U. But that's just how it goes.
A lot of times, the console gets defined in its
first year, and I do think that's the case here,
where those two games defined the switch as like, hey,
we're going to have a traditional three D Mario that's
gonna have a ton of awesome ideas, just like Odyssey,
but it's gonna have maybe a play style a little
bit more like a playground like Mario sixty four. Just
go out there and have fun. Uh yeah, and it's uh,
it's it's awesome. It's a very good game, and yeah,
just endlessly creative. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine it not being a luck. Also, you know,
a time winner is already so many good three D
Mario games, like well, this is just clearly the best one.
The creativity was a stouting the freedom. I love that
they kind of made it more complicated in ways. There
are so much movement tech in that game, and it's
most you know, ninety nine percent of it is deliberate,
and it's so much fun finding all these look crannies.
I love the idea of having like a thousand moons
just about there's a ton of them. You're gonna get
one for sitting on a bench, so it's gonna get
one for this platforming channel. But there's so many different
ways of going about it. It's a great game to
be It's a great game to one hundred percent. I
love all the costumes. It's very pretty. I love just
how wacky they got with the worlds in that game.
Like you know, there's Mario is the video game franchise,
and to me, this is now the Mario game.
Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely, I agree those two are locks. So we're
kind of figuring out some two other games to go
on here. Maybe we should get a little bit more
outside the box. But I want to hear what you think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that animal Crossing New Horizon probably has
to be considered pretty strongly in terms of Mount Rushmore
because that was like the kind of mid gen super
kick in the butt to take the Switch from being
like a surprisingly very successful thing to being more stously successful.
Speaker 2: Right, And I think, like, what is the alternative game
that kind of fills that same slot of like Massive
broad Appeal just sold and sold and sold, and it's
Mario Kart, but it's Mario Kart eight, which was a
WIU game, which I think gives the edge to Animal
Crossing as being iconic on the Switch. I think I
agree with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's let's let's not lock it maybe, yeah,
because I might have some of.
Speaker 2: Those yeah question there, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I think I would.
Here's where we kind of got to maybe get a
Roosevelt in and maybe one game that's not actually from Nintendo.
And I do think that that game is Hades.
Speaker 1: I think eighties couldn't make it.
Speaker 2: I think Hades is the kind of game where it's
like that game launched in one point zero on Switch
and it sort of showed the path for indie games
to go from being like yeah, yeah we're on Switch
as well, we're there we're successful to being like, oh,
this was a mega hit on the Switch, to the
point where Nintendo noticed and kind of picked it up
and adopted it and said this is, you know, one
of the games that we say is important, and everyone
got on board and it played great on Switch. They
sort of made sure that it was a game that
could run really well on that system, and yeah, it was.
It was a great way to play that thing. That
That is how I played Hades, and I think a
lot of people, I think the majority of people played
Hades on a switch.
Speaker 1: You might be right, but there might also be a
Roosevelt within Nintendo's rinks in a sort of different way. Yeah,
that's Luigi's Mansion three.
Speaker 2: I could yep.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a massively popular game and just
such a giant boost over what that series had ever
done before. Right, Like we talk about the switch glow
up that franchise, we're getting a lot of them. I
don't know if any of them had a bigger glow
up than Luigi's Mansion, which you know went from like
getting you know, sevens to low eights to being one
of their big games for that year and to this
day one of the best games on the platform and
maybe the prettiest.
Speaker 2: Game on the platform. That game looked so good and
animates so well. I think it's the best animated game
ever made. Yeah, I do think that, and that's from
a studio that is well known for that did great
stuff with Punch Out on we uh, so they have
a long history of that and they were just able
to stretch their legs with that with the The Lagi's
Mansion three and made one of the best looking games
of all time because of that animation. So it definitely
needs to be on the short list. I do like
I'm like looking around, how do you feel? How you
feel about Smash Brothers.
Speaker 1: I love Smash Brothers, right, I played that got a
Smash Brothers. It was the best one, the best selling
games on there, might be the best Mesh Bros.
Speaker 4: Ever.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it needs to be on the
Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of feel like a Smash Brothers is
a Mount Rushmore of Nintendo franchises.
Speaker 1: Yeah uh.
Speaker 2: And that doesn't necessarily speak to the switch part of
it to me, Like it's it's story did not change
because of the switch. Smash Brothers did what Smash Brothers does,
Like you know.
Speaker 1: I like spash ws more than Mario Kart. I'd be
more inclined to put Mario Kart eight de Luxe on here,
which sold like so much. Maybe just gets in there,
like anyways in a west so important to this switch.
Speaker 2: Just brute forces, It's what, Yeah, absolutely kind of just
prove forces the way on there because of that. So yeah,
Mario Kurt should be on the short list, although I
do think that's an animal crossing spot personally. Yeah, how
about Metroy Dread.
Speaker 1: Oh there might be a reach problem with that, yes,
a bit, but like you know, that's a quality thing
you as to me be like, hey, one of my
four favorite Nintendo Switch games. I think Dread makes it in.
Perhaps Mount Rush was a harder argument for that game. Boy,
do I love it? You know, there's being in being.
I don't even like to say niche right, still sold
like three million copies, I think, you know. But in
terms of the mount rushmore like an emblematic Switch game,
is this that the game is coming into a lot
of people's mind when I say Switch, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yep, I think you're probably right about that. Uh all right,
let me see, do we.
Speaker 1: Get some podcast do we have podcast producers on this one.
Speaker 2: No, no worries, No worries about that.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you.
Speaker 2: There are people suggesting things in chat. Someone didn't mention
ring Fit Adventure. I get that, but that feels like
a I mean, it was a huge success, made a
ton of money for Nintendo. Still feels like a redux
of what happened with we.
Speaker 1: Fit Pickman four. Yeah, God, Pickman four is is so good.
Speaker 2: It's so good. It's a really good game. I don't
know if when I think of Pickman I think of
the game Cube games and it being emblematic of GameCube
and not necessarily of the Switch. I don't know if
that makes sense, but that's how you feel about it.
Speaker 1: They made a fantastic pickment game, probably the best one ever.
But yeah, it's the best one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's a game that like if you give me, hey,
I got a switch, give me a list of ten
games I have to play. Pickman four is on there
and bolded, but I don't know if it's Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1: Okay, here's another one that I see from Chaff from
Jesse fire them three Houses.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: For me, it's like when my gut reaction there is
like fire Blo'm Awaking. I think it's almost a Mount
Rushmore on three DS, so we probably have to have
that conversation with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I saw, what I thought too, And
it doesn't.
Speaker 2: Feel the same. This doesn't feel the same as that
does for the three DS, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, no, that's what I was gonna say, Like
fire on them through Awakening would absolutely be on the
three DS.
Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore, right, And this doesn't feel as much of
a lock as that does. So I just like, I'm
like hesitant about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, I don't think it's as
important to the Switch as Awakening was to the three DS.
What about the Splatoon games?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it kind of you know, maybe that's like, oh,
well that you know Splatoon the same thing. So Splatoon
was like a WEU defined thing and then it had
amazing life on the Switch and it was massive and
it became even more popular on the switch. It is
iconic in Japan now because of what it did on
the Switch, and I don't want to dismiss that. So
I think it should probably be considered, but I personally
don't think it's going to make our Mount rushmore.
Speaker 1: Maybe there's a bit better online supports stuff on the Switch.
Speaker 2: Right right, Yeah, And I think I think if Splatoon
three had like gone a bit bigger in terms of, like,
here are the changes we're making, here's like a maybe
even a more traditional campaign alongside of the awesome campaign
stuff that we do have here. Yeah, but for me,
it's probably not gonna make it.
Speaker 1: How about handtaie golf? Yes, one, I feel like there
was a time you would have suggested golf story, but
like sports story was so bad it's kind of almost
plason the well a little yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Mean yeah, but no, it for Hades represents like the
story of adie games on Switch, which is why I
do think I think Haities should make it on there.
But we're still going to have that conversation. And it's like,
of all the indie games that sort of represented what
indie games meant the Switch, that goes to Hades and
knock golf story not. There's a handful of other things
that maybe should be in that, like Dead Cells very similar,
but no, Hades was even bigger.
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of successful Pokemon games for
the Switch.
Speaker 2: I don't think it legends archaeusis I think the most
emblematic of like Pokemon on Switch, and that is not
going to make the right people here.
Speaker 1: Try saying hollow Night. I like calling Night Lot, but
that was already a hit even before it came to Switch,
like like, yeah, Switch helped gave it a much bigger
audience for.
Speaker 2: Sure, very similar trajectory to a lot of other indie games. Again,
I would put Hades first.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what I'm thinking here, Yeah, right
for the while, and Mario to see your locks, yep,
I think Animal Crossing New Horizon is kind of a
lock as well.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think so it just gets just
it hit too hard and was and was I think
the defining for the Switch in its life.
Speaker 1: And so then if we want that kind of indie
non Nintendo thing, taking the Force lot Hades, or we
could do Luigi's Mansion is like the kind of franchise
that had the big glow up. Or we could do
Mario cart eight Deluxe as just you know, the Brute
Force system seller game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is probably Mario card Eate Deluxe honestly,
but you know it was a we U game. But
you know, at this point it's not at this point.
It is a switch and the worlds we U game too, right, Yeah,
good point. Yeah, people are mis mentioning Celeste as well,
and I think Celeste absolutely but again doesn't reach Hades.
Speaker 1: It doesn't reach quite as much as Hades. And you know,
I love Chirping Forgotten and I'm so glad they made
that game. But just you know, compared to Blake, the
stature of some games we're talking about here, I think
it's rough.
Speaker 2: You said, Uh, it was Mario Kurt Hades.
Speaker 1: What was the other one, Ludi's Mansion. Oh yeah, god yeah,
I like all three of those. I mean, it doesn't
have to be Animal Crossing. I guess it could be
any of those four, but I feel like Animal Crossing.
Speaker 2: I think Animal Crossing is it's the story. Uh, it's
story and what it meant to the Switch, I think
probably does make it a lock. I think you're right. Uh.
I think if the list is Zelda, Mario, Animal Crossing,
and Mario Kart, that's probably correct.
Speaker 1: It's the least controversial list, I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's the least controversial. At that point,
people are like, well, of course, my darling couldn't make
it because which one do you take down for which
one do you replace? It's kind of hard to argue against.
It's not the most interesting, but it's probably correct. I
don't know how you want to go from there.
Speaker 1: I think you're probably right, like Hades almost boos me
it is on other things. A lot of people did
play it on Steam, right, Like if you say, haities,
I don't know if everybody's immediately going Switch, I kind
of I do.
Speaker 2: I mean, because one point zero launched on Switch, it
launched on Steam at the same time. Yeah, but it's
like the only console it launched on was Switch and
there was a reason for that, and it was a
massive hit because of that. But but yeah, I'm I'm
willing to be like, that's important, and it's probably to
me if it's not gonna make it, it's number five,
but we don't do five, so let's yeah, I think
we can cut it. And and I think it's probably
Mario Kart and I think it's a boring list. But
I think that's why you knew it would be a
pretty quick conversation, because the Switch has a pretty definitive
mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, that's kind of the way it should
be right.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's how it shakes out sometimes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think our list would be for the
Matt Rushmore Nintendo Switch game Switch one. I should specify
the legend is out of Breath of the Wild, Super
Mario Odyssey, Animal Crossing New Horizons, and Mario Kart eight Deluxe.
Speaker 2: And can you take a picture of your phone of
that sticky note and post it to social media for
us please? Yes, I were working them. Yeah, yes, absolutely
for us, Thank you very much. All right, So while
Mike does that, let's yeah, let's just get into what
we've been playing and then we can wrap up. I
have I've been spending a little bit more time with
Caves of Cud, but I've been trying a few other
things as well, kind of still bouncing around a few things.
Also still helping the kids with Tears of the Kingdom.
I played quite a bit of that last night to
Emmy one is now playing it in such a way
where she wants to make friends with the She calls
them grimlins and goblins very cute but like the moblins
and the booblins and stuff like that, and she was
going up to them trying to be friends, and of
course they just attack her right away. I'm like, hey,
there's a mass you can get where they will think
you're one of them. And she said, well, you have
to get that for me right now. And it was
her birthday, so I sat down and I spent a
good amount of time tracking down those monster brothers that
will give you the mask. And thankfully, the first mask
they give you when you first meet them and unlock
it is the Bocabblin mask, I think. And she got
that on, and now she's going out and just finding
groups of these guys and hanging out with them and
telling her own stories. I adore the way that kids
play video games. It is so interesting. They're just kind
of having little sandbox things doing their own thing. You
can hear kind of like in her tiny little squeaky voice,
telling little stories of the characters going back and forth
and doing various things, and I just get warm feelings
about it. So whenever she wants to do something like
that in her game, I'm will always jumping at the
chance to sort of enable it and empower it. And again,
like I mentioned on Nintendogs, this is an excellent way
to continue playing a game that I always want to
be playing Here's the Kingdom. It's like, oh cool, I
don't have to try to like, okay, I'm gonna sit
down and replay Tiers of the Kingdom. It's like, you know,
here is just a thirty to forty five minute blast
of gameplay to help someone achieve something. So I have
a clear goal, I know what I'm doing, and I
just love it. So yeah, it's been a very good experience.
Speaker 1: Bolly am. I am feeling a hankering to play those
games again and again. I say, you know, I feel
confident there's gonna be some reason to play. I'm on
the Switch too, so I'm going to I.
Speaker 2: Mean, the rule was that they were The way they
were showing off the Switch Too, Partners was with Breath
of the Wild running at sixty frames per second with
some improvements. That's probably not just something that they're going
to have as a demo to show developers.
Speaker 1: No, right, yeah, they did that work for a reason.
I did start Donkey Kong Country Returns HD streaming that
rip before this. You know, I never played the original
game all that much shift. I think even at that
point I wasn't using my Wii a ton. I remember
being somewhat bitter about Nintendo like just making a bunch
of two D games again. Not that I have any
problem with two D games again, but it was like, oh,
they're kind of getting unambitious here right.
Speaker 2: Like especially because like what we're like, what was the
other options At that time, It's like PC gaming was
hitting hard and then Xbox three sixty was having this
online revolution that where every like you know, Call of
Duty four comes out and takes over the world. And yeah,
it was easy. It was easy to sort of put
Nintendo to the side at that time.
Speaker 1: You know, I've been doing that exercise where I'm figuring
out how many games have I beaten? And I've done
a lot of platforms I haven't done like Switcher PC yet. Like,
guess what's number one right now? By a factor of two,
I don't know, it's Xbox three sixty. Was playing a
ton of Xbox three sixty at this point, we.
Speaker 2: All were it was a fantastic console despite you know,
red ring issues aside, and there's a reason why we
just kept buying them even though they broke. It's like, no,
I need it, I have.
Speaker 3: And willieve Argentina. That's not a chip thing to do.
Speaker 1: Nor Yeah, I was definitely, I think, just kind of
playing three sixty shit at that point.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: But so you know, when the three s version came out,
I didn't mess with that, So I was I was
looking for this release I could finally play through this game. Yeah,
it's really fun. I definitely think there's still like and
I'm not usually some people like crowd Watch, is this
game worth sixty dollars for this pretty bare minimum? Up
resing enhancing here is kind of a lot. There are
aspects of the game that the presentation doesn't feel great,
Like even when the game just started right, Like you
think about Donkey Kong Country one and you have like
cranky Khon turning that like old gramophone or whatever, and
then like Donkey Kong comes down, it's like you're right here.
It's just like you start the systems, like here's the
logo and some clouds behind it. Now push start you SAP.
It's like, okay, Like little things like that. There's still
times where the game looks nice. The soundtrack is good.
Those like silhouette levels still look really nice, right, And
when you get into those, yeah, yeah, you kind of
get into the groove of like, you know, doing your
barrel rolls and jumping on enemies. It feels really nice.
I love that. I like the gimmick levels a lot,
especially those Flappy Bird style kind of barrel rocket levels
in the micro levels here are a ton of fun too.
Boss fights are weak, but I think boss fights have
always been the weakest part of the Donkey Kunt.
Speaker 2: Country game, So yep, I think actually the better part
of Tropical Tropical Freeze improves that. I think the boss
fights and Tropical Freeze are a bit better, maybe a
bit better, yeah, a bit better. But yeah, I was
watching you play this, Mike, and I will, oh, maybe
I do want to replay this, you know. I I
think I did play it some on Wei, and then
I really played it on three DS, and it looked
really good on on switch. I know there was some
issues early on when people are comparing the video to
the WEI version that we had, you know, better colors
and things like that. It was maybe maybe a little
bit better in terms of details, and some of that
stuff got smudged out in this HD transition, But I
don't know. I looked at what you were playing and
it looked pretty good to me, so kind of maybe
getting in the mood to play it as well.
Speaker 1: Certainly looks good enough.
Speaker 2: I'll say, yeah, yees, yeah it is. It's full sixty dollars.
Speaker 1: Right, full sixty dollars. Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 2: Right, Maybe that's maybe a bit rough, but yeah, like
Divorce Cougar in chat says fifty to fifty dollars with
a Nintendo voucher. Still, I've done that. I've done that
a lot of times actually, so I'm not. I gotta
get Metro Prime still, so maybe I will do another
one of those one hundred dollars vouchers and split it
between those two games.
Speaker 1: So yeah, uh uh real Quicken playing Dark Stel three,
you know, right playing through the series. Oh that's a
great game. Three, very good.
Speaker 3: That's rank them right now? So far? What one is
your favorite? You have?
Speaker 1: It's a CONDI yeah, I'm not. Yeah, I'm not very
far into three yet, like ten hours, uh, which you
know it's far, but not that far. I'll tell you what.
It's probably gonna be three. One, two, that's probably gonna
be a raking Three is just very well. What's interesting
is like the complaint with three I always heard is like, well,
you know, it's a bit more linear because the different
areas don't connect in as many different ways as they
do and Dark Souls one, and that's true, but like
each area is big, and each area wraps around itself
a lot, so like maybe each area only goes to
like one or two other areas. But yeah, whatever, you're
still unlocking all those short cuts and other paths and
things like that, and the game is just so gorgeous.
I got to this one town. It's like it looks
like a Thomas Kinkaid Christmas painting all the best ways.
This is very pretty. And I'm doing I'm doing a
dexterity build this time, so I'm switching things up. I'm
not just doing a giant sore and shield, so I'm
a rollie boy. I have these like dual kind of
sort short katana things. I don't know, but you know,
I'm slashing very quickly.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: It's a different place, though, I'm having a ton of fun.
Very impressive. Dark Soul three. I forget when that game
come out, but it still just looks very good. If
anybody like likes playing Eldon Ring, you don't want to,
maybe one go back to Every Soul's game play Dark
Souls three because that that's basically elten Ring without the
jumping in the open world stuff like so much of
it is familiar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there whenever I you're from fans talking
and if Bloodburn is not their favorite one, Dark Souls
three is there is their favorite usually and my second
row yeh yeah, yeah, of course yes, and yeah it's
definitely for me.
Speaker 1: Everything comes up with Dark Souls too, And I'm not
a Dark Souls two hater, clearly the worst one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're right, because I was gonna say, well
it comes up. No, those dark defenders of Dark Souls too,
I don't think even they are saying it's their favorite
from game. So yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm envious. I would
love to do this with what you've done here of
playing through the Dark Souls games, so uh might try
that as well at some point. We love souls yep,
grub soules there you get.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, I'm an expert. I can help you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be awesome, all right, anything else, mikey.
Speaker 1: Well, we got some more super chats.
Speaker 4: That I've been playing Paddle of Exil too. That shit
is so addictive, is such a good game? Was so
sid did you do that?
Speaker 2: You just pay someone to play for you.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well that's the reason why I started playing.
Funny you say it.
Speaker 4: I was like, there has to be something for this
dumb as to like he wants to pretend so hard
to be good at this video game. And it makes
me kind of sad a little bit because this game,
this game is so easy to just enjoy. You just
like jump in and enjoy play the game, be a
happy person. And he can't even do that. He's the
richest manfuker in the planet Earth and he can enjoy it.
Speaker 3: And it's like, well, yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: I want to play this. This might be one where
it's try to make fill in a upf with Path
of XL too. Yeah, could we start Path of X
out too? And one would be interesting and too would
we have fun? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: It gets going not super fast, but relatively fast, like
a couple of hours. Issues like building your stuff already,
you get get in your your your skills and that
kind of stuff. The skill tree, the meme is real
for the skill tree that passive skills, but once you
figure out how it works is super easy.
Speaker 3: Is just like you pick a path and you go.
Speaker 4: It's just Okay, yeah, it looks intimidating, but it's actually
they issue up into that all the stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure they don't make that pretty easy because
they want people on that grind.
Speaker 3: Yes, and the country.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I can't believe this game is going to be free
to play because now it's in their kind of early access.
You had to pay fifteen buckses like the lowest tier
you can pay to play the game. And this game
is gonna gonna be a free to play. It's really pretty.
Speaker 3: I like how it looks. It looks pretty cool. And
the controllers, that's the thing.
Speaker 4: You They give you the option to move the character
with the like clicking in the map and the guy
will like run it, but they also give you the
option to move it with the what's you know, Like
she was controlled direct and I started with the click
and then.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, it doesn't feel kind of good.
Speaker 4: And then I changed and it changed, like it's just
it feels like dark Souls, you know, it feels like
more action. I had to learn the patterns of the
enemies and the kind of stuff because the dog is
very important, and that is I.
Speaker 2: Think it turned out that people discovered that ARPGs are
actually even more fun with direct control.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if you can do that
on on the album. Maybe I should try that because.
Speaker 2: I'm diable has controller support.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I was pretty surprised. I was pretty surprised
how I got I've played, you know, every Diablo, I
liked them at least a bit. I could not get
through Diabolion. I was so bored. I was so bored
going through it. It surprised me. So yeah, I'm I'll
try this out, see what I think of it. Jet.
By the way, I know when I posted the sticky
note to Mount Rushmore, I tried to link it to
the YouTube channel and I wrote Jeffrey Grub wrong, So
let's going to a different jeff Grub and I'm not
fixing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah fine, whatever, Yeah, no problem, super chats.
Speaker 1: Uh. Next one is next one here is from JD.
Campuses NFL players in about eighty thousand crustables a year. Penis.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't argue with facts. Those are just facts. Figures.
Speaker 1: It seems like a lot of carbs for a football player.
Speaker 2: Yeah. They do need carbs though, because they have to
like power both all their muscles and their brain for
a long time, so yeah, they probably do EA quite
a few carbs before a match.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Next one's from elk Gregs is aj Minnaughty for
game mess Hall of Fame. I don't think they put
any people in there yet.
Speaker 2: We will do. I was just thinking a new game
mess Hall of Fame here pretty soon next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: People who should pick just these four switch Mount Rushberg
games against each other? See?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I love the double check at see if
any of them are on there already, they might be
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: We'll check APM video, says evening. Missy Boyce thoughts on
Bloodborne PC emulator. Yeah, I means here.
Speaker 2: Yes, I have been hearing about this recently and I
have a forty ninety. Apparently it runs very well if
you have a forty ninety. So I'm gonna do this.
I'm gonna find time to do this and we will
play some sixty frames per second. Blow.
Speaker 1: I'm still pretty good. Just someday they're going to remaster
that thing or whatever. I'm okay waiting for them.
Speaker 2: You think that.
Speaker 1: Looks when I say someday, I might get maybe five
years from now, but I think someday they will.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean maybe, but I mean, just right now,
it just feels like there's no hope for that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I already beat this game. I'm not liking
some generalsh it's fine. Mikey O'Leary says, poopoo peepee, Thank you,
mikey O'Leary, and then.
Speaker 2: Chris Pratt, sorry, peractly. I feel feel very good about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, poo poo. Yeah, there we go, Chris Pratt says,
pretty excited for Nintendo's Internet services. Get do you see
what this is an.
Speaker 2: Accurate for ye, I'm looking at it. I'm pee.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all right. Thank you so much, Chris Pratt.
Fantastic work there. Thank you. Uh, that's that.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Mike, Thank you, Chris Son and everyone else
who's sending super chats.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna read some random names here, White lens
and and symbiosis, a bunch of everyone he sat in
super Chats. Thank you so much. You really made the
show a lot of fun tonight. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'll start playing the music now, sure, all right?
Speaker 2: Cool?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll start screaming when it gets loud, you'll know.
Speaker 2: Cool. Yeah, all right, Well I am it's December. There
aren't a lot of games coming out. Maybe I'll go
play some Donkey Kong. I have another day. It's December,
January whatever. I've had a rough one today where my
brain is barely functioning. I had a muck bang. I
couldn't understand the word mutatione or whateveration.
Speaker 1: Them when you trying to start the podcast earlier, I
tried to.
Speaker 2: Start a podcast and you told me what we were doing,
and I heard you, and then I just you know what,
here's what really happened. You were like you said that
and then and then christ just said, uh, just do
give me a countdown. And I'm like, yeah, that's a
better idea, as if that was an alternative. He was suggesting.
That's what happened in that moment, and I'm like, okay,
I just stopped working again. Uh yeah, just thanks everybody.
I forget what I was talking about.
Speaker 1: Your brain's dying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, thanks for everybody for letting my
brain die.
Speaker 1: Time Bowser's Hurry tomorrow. What time is that Bowser's Hurry.
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna start that at one pm Eastern
ten am Pacific time, so an hour after Game Mess mornings.
We'll get all set up, we'll get in there. We
are gonna be raising in there, Get in there. We're
gonna be raising money for the Red Cross of the
United States of America to help out people in Los
Angeles who have been affected by the fires there. And
so it'll be a nice long stream of me, Mike,
Dan maybe Sean. He is still a question mark because
of his rest to compete to finish Bowser's Fury first.
The first person to get enough cat shines, of which
there are one hundred I've heard, and the first one
to beat that game will be the winner. I'm really
looking forward to this because a reason to play Bowser's
Fury again. I love that game.
Speaker 1: That's a fun game. Yeah, I definitely am in the
mood to play some some Switch Highlight and yeah, but
that's not maybe again, make them mount rush more. But
definitely one of my favorite games on the Switch is
just three D World, And I didn't like three D
World that much on the wi U. Then that Switch
for Happen. It's like one of my favorites.
Speaker 2: Did I really call Indiana Jones the Fantastic Circle, Michael
or Michael Leary or are you just giving me more ship?
I did that. I'm gonna go out, like take me
to the doctor and everybody pee me.
Speaker 1: I have to poop, all right?
Speaker 3: With my break, I had the EBO lineup, but I
took it out of because.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we also talk about that super chat.
Speaker 4: Yeah, chief, what what do you say if we escaped
the topic the mount rochemore and we save it for
Nintendo's because we have a bunch of super chat a.
Speaker 2: Right, that sounds good? Good, good call? All right? All right?
Do we want to do this this game that you made? No? No, no,
we all sounds good.
Speaker 1: All right, let's uh, we can see how Yeah, we
can see if we get through the super chats fast too,
before we make that call.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right on the other side of the super chats.
We'll see how we're doing. But there are a lot
of super chats, so let's let's see how we're doing
after that. Okay, I'm gonna bring us back in.
Speaker 1: Cool all right, get out of here.
Speaker 2: Ever drive could take a wildest ship considering world events
last time I checked. That's fair. Yeah, I uh, of
course I ordered mine, and then like a two days later,
MVG's like, hey, this other one is really good and
it's only fifty dollars. Son of a bit. Why dodn't
you see how Why didn't he know that I bought
an n sixty four and was looking to get one.
He should just know me by now. So yeah, I
kind of trying to hold.
Speaker 3: Off on It's every day something new, you.
Speaker 2: This is a every day it's some new way to
deal with my mid life. Midlife press is right Christian? Yeah, yeah,
but you know Kevin's right, damn it. Mvg uh did
I get the analog in sixty four? I did get
the analog in sixty four. That's not here yet though
that'll be coming soon. God, that's supposed to ship in
the first part of this year, right, so uh, you
know what, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm also
just going to reach out to them. Let's just let's
just reach out to them. Let's see here.
Speaker 3: That is it, okay?
Speaker 2: I mean there's no guarantee that they'll send it me,
but I did reach out. Let's see here in a
long three D.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: I or an analog three D, but would love to
get one for real. You. Yeah, I am very excited
about that thing. I love. I love what ANALYG does.
I I know that there's some people in the scene
how that are not fans of like how they treat
FPGA stuff, But there's always seen drama and.
Speaker 3: Emulation, so kind of like you have to have some
drama otherwise.
Speaker 2: Yep, exactly. It keeps it keeps people on their toes.
So I recognize that, and I also like totally like
understand where people are coming from. But I like the
work they do. And this thing is gonna have a
lot of cool like filters and and and and sort
of the scan lines, but it looks really cool. So yeah,
I'm excited to get one of these.
Speaker 4: The genders like, oh this is this this can I
makes a pixel a little bit blurry, which makes it
so the colors blend better and it gives you a
better a currensy thingy or whatever. It's like, all right,
everybody has those giant four k O lid TVs now, so.
Speaker 2: Right, yes, And it's like those four k O leads
are going to be perfect for that. That's the kind
I mean, especially if you get one with a really
high refresh rate like those lgs that you know, black
frame insertion, it can really look awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta.
Speaker 4: It's like you can see the because the thing doesn't
let the O, it doesn't let the light goes through.
Speaker 3: Brother, it's really dark exactly.
Speaker 2: It's real dark, which is what you want between the
lines of the world that make it really bright because
they has the HDR so it can look like the phosphorus.
I did semester around with that on when I did
have an LG that was borrowing from l G, and
I did that on PC and it looked fantastic. So yeah,
really really, Rachel Hi, right, a caser laser all right, ready, yeah, yeah,
I can bring us back in. Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Bright.
Speaker 4: So my argument is, Kip the de Mount Rougemore, is
to save it for Nintendos. We do the next week
for Nintendos, and then the other week we do like
top hundred with like a special.
Speaker 1: It would technically be mailbag time this week for an
intend This.
Speaker 3: Week we'll do all right, we'll do mel Bag and.
Speaker 1: Then next week.
Speaker 2: On this episode, and then we'll do mail Bag, and
then we'll do the week after that we'll do we'll
start the process whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't want people think, oh, they gave them too
many super tests. They have to cut content, you know,
for fair enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't feel that way. Everybody because that's silly. But yeah,
the MIC's right, Okay, let's come back.