Speaker 1: All right, it's Monday in the Tri State. All hell
Speaker 1: is breaking loose. The average American is in for the
Speaker 1: great American who is still in parts unknown. Let's look
Speaker 1: at what's transpiring. First, we got opening day on Thursday,
Speaker 1: and we've got a lot of Reds players already on
Speaker 1: the injured list. I don't know how that's going to
Speaker 1: play out as this season begins in earnest on Thursday.
Speaker 1: And then, of course we have what has transpired over
Speaker 1: the weekend. Xavier apparently now looking for a new basketball
Speaker 1: coach again because Sean Miller apparently is leaving Xavier again.
Speaker 1: And at Washington's ec the hilarity never ends. It really doesn't.
Speaker 1: Trump's in the courts try to get his deportations reinvigorated,
Speaker 1: despite the fact that a judge out there decided last week,
Speaker 1: now you did this thing too fast. Now told you
Speaker 1: to turn the plane around, even though the judge didn't
Speaker 1: even know how much fuel was left in the plane.
Speaker 1: Could have ordered that thing turned around and they might
Speaker 1: not have had enough gasoline to make it back to mainland. Nevertheless,
Speaker 1: that judge now is given away to a three judge
Speaker 1: appeals panel that will ultimately decide something I think that
Speaker 1: winds up with the Supreme Court. I think it winds
Speaker 1: up with the Supreme Court. Meanwhile, the Dems are in disarray.
Speaker 1: Andy Basheer is vetoing bills left and right down in
Speaker 1: the Commonwealth of Kentucky, and tariffs are on the horizon,
Speaker 1: which may affect you, me and everybody else that's walking around.
Speaker 1: So when all hell breaks out, we want to bring
Speaker 1: somebody in that knows how to pick up the pieces
Speaker 1: and put them all together again. One of the finest
Speaker 1: political minds of our times, someone who was out in
Speaker 1: the Great Plains, someone who sees both the Left Coast
Speaker 1: and the East Coast and what happens here in the
Speaker 1: heartland of America, right out there in the wheat fields
Speaker 1: of Kansas. He's our good buddy, Dan Snell, And Dan,
Speaker 1: how are you on this glorious Monday.
Speaker 2: Well, fantastic ken brew to be with you. You know,
Speaker 2: listening your introduction is better than Tony Robbins or zig
Speaker 2: Ziggler or everybody combined.
Speaker 3: So thank you for those kind words.
Speaker 1: All right, I want to get everything to that I
Speaker 1: just laid out. I want to get to that with you.
Speaker 1: But I have a pressing question that I need to
Speaker 1: ask you that has been bothering me since late last night.
Speaker 1: Did you watch the Colorado State Maryland game last night?
Speaker 2: I did not watch it, but you gotta love that
Speaker 2: America loves the Cinderella story. I did not watch it.
Speaker 1: Though, three point six seconds to go, Colorado State has
Speaker 1: just taken the lead by one. Here comes Maryland after
Speaker 1: a time out. The ball is in Derek Queen's hands.
Speaker 1: He drives to the bucket, lays it up, and in
Speaker 1: Maryland wins. I don't know how anybody could have seen
Speaker 1: that video and not known that Derek Queen took three steps.
Speaker 1: He took three steps, don How is that not traveling?
Speaker 1: Is that not? I mean, we now, why don't we
Speaker 1: just have people just walk from half court to the basket?
Speaker 1: How is that not traveling?
Speaker 2: I know you have always loved and called for more
Speaker 2: traveling calls in the basketball court. Well, you're going to
Speaker 2: have to go back upon further review and check that out,
Speaker 2: and let you know. I can't believe I didn't see
Speaker 2: that or hear about it.
Speaker 1: Dan is one of the finest basketball officials in America,
Speaker 1: and I'm just telling you, if that wasn't traveling last night,
Speaker 1: then I have no idea what traveling is. But nevertheless,
Speaker 1: the mainstream media is not talking about it. Social media
Speaker 1: is just a blaze with this topic. I'm sure there's
Speaker 1: some explanation, but as someone who has studied the game
Speaker 1: of basketball attempted to play it, I don't know how
Speaker 1: that wasn't traveling. But nevertheless, it stands in Maryland is
Speaker 1: moving on?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to this. Trump's in the courts.
Speaker 1: He's trying to get his deportation thing out of the courts.
Speaker 1: He wants trend to dale rogwip culprits out of this country.
Speaker 1: I think most people do, most sound people think that
Speaker 1: these are not good people. Anybody that's committed a crime,
Speaker 1: either in this country or abroad and is here in
Speaker 1: this country illegally has to go. But I think Trump
Speaker 1: is missing a chance here. I think his administration's missing
Speaker 1: a chance here.
Speaker 2: Dan.
Speaker 1: If you'll recall Post nine to eleven, the Supremes ruled
Speaker 1: and they said terrorists, regardless of where they are and
Speaker 1: what they've done, they are subject to the American court system.
Speaker 1: So the Supremes have already ruled on this. I don't
Speaker 1: think Trump wins this thing. In court. Why would he
Speaker 1: not go to the legislative route. He's got the House,
Speaker 1: he's got the Senate. You could pass a bill that
Speaker 1: would tighten up all of this stuff and make Tom
Speaker 1: Holman's job a lot easier. Why is he going to
Speaker 1: court route as opposed to the legislation route.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's his go to style, is to
Speaker 2: take everything to court or threaten the sue or sue someone,
Speaker 2: and then that's becoming verse. Unfortunately, it seems like more
Speaker 2: challenges have come to Trump's Anything he does gets challenge.
Speaker 2: If he if he has a McDonald's cheeseburger, somebody's going
Speaker 2: to challenge him in court, it seems these days. And
Speaker 2: we do need judicial review, and we do need a
Speaker 2: process that we take a look at. How can a
Speaker 2: judge at some small, you know, district or some small
Speaker 2: geographic area have a ruling that impacts the President of
Speaker 2: the United States, the most powerful man in the world.
Speaker 2: I understand due process, but in this case, I think
Speaker 2: everyone in America understands the what and the why of
Speaker 2: what Donald Trump was trying to do to send these
Speaker 2: bad ombres as he would call them bad ombres out
Speaker 2: of the country. And you know, It's just that's the
Speaker 2: tough thing is that President Trump's doing so many good things.
Speaker 2: But you know when you call somebody a lunatic, it
Speaker 2: stirs people up, especially a judge, And then you get
Speaker 2: a Spring Court Justice Robert saying, hey, we're not all
Speaker 2: luned yet, so stop talking about impeaching people.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Robert should have kept his mouth shut.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, if this case ever gets in
Speaker 1: front of him, then you've got serious questions about his
Speaker 1: ability to rule in an impartial manner. I just think
Speaker 1: in things like this, Roberts need and any of those
Speaker 1: guys and women that sit on the Supreme Courts just
Speaker 1: need to shut up about this stuff. But nevertheless, you're right,
Speaker 1: this Boseburg character doesn't like Trump, has had illegal history
Speaker 1: with him, appears to be overstepping his grounds. I said
Speaker 1: last week when I was on this radio station. You know,
Speaker 1: they're about six hundred and seventy five of these guys
Speaker 1: walking around in these black robes at these district coords.
Speaker 1: If every one of them decided they were going to
Speaker 1: weigh in on a particular thing that Trump is trying
Speaker 1: to do or what this country is trying to do domestically,
Speaker 1: or foreign from a foreign aspect, we'd be paralyzed, nothing
Speaker 1: would be able to happen. So we've got we've got
Speaker 1: an issue, And I agree with you where it is
Speaker 1: a lawsuit, though, has to start somewhere. It's got to
Speaker 1: start in some court. But I think there's got to
Speaker 1: be a trigger mechanism so that these lower court judges
Speaker 1: don't have the power that they have right now, and
Speaker 1: that it can get to something like it's going to
Speaker 1: now sooner than later. Look, Washington, Trump is never going
Speaker 1: to get a favorable ruling out of any court in Washington, DC.
Speaker 1: The city is ninety two percent Democrat. But my point
Speaker 1: being is you kind of like take these guys out
Speaker 1: of where they are, put them back in their lane,
Speaker 1: and get this where it should go logically, which is
Speaker 1: quicker to this appeal board and then onto the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: I think that's what you're saying as well.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, we should almost have like a minor league
Speaker 2: or a JV team or something for the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2: And they're in Washington where there's perhaps a governing or
Speaker 2: ruling body of judges that they're the only ones. So
Speaker 2: you don't get you don't get a party at the
Speaker 2: Democrats in this case, judge hunting, whether you know. Sometimes
Speaker 2: they go out to California and get a judge that
Speaker 2: will rule something in California that has to do with
Speaker 2: the whole nation. So they just go shopping for judges
Speaker 2: that are of like mind. And it would be better
Speaker 2: if we had one body almost like the you know,
Speaker 2: the minor League for the Supreme Court that might help
Speaker 2: America make decisions on some of these things rather than
Speaker 2: creating this brew haha that we have right now.
Speaker 1: I'm and to play off that, I'm looking at the Democrats.
Speaker 1: Since November, the Democrats are in disarray. They have no leader.
Speaker 1: I think that's the greatest disservice that Joe Biden did
Speaker 1: to his party, and that, you know, because he was
Speaker 1: incapable of governing and it was a cabal that ran
Speaker 1: basically Washington, d C. During his time. It's left the
Speaker 1: entire Democrat Party leaderless, wide open vacuum. But I would
Speaker 1: go back as far as the waning day of the
Speaker 1: Obama administration as the last time the Democrats stood for anything,
Speaker 1: because after that, the only thing you've heard from them
Speaker 1: is stop Trump, Orange Man bad, We hate Trump. Trump
Speaker 1: likes this get Trump, Get Musk. Musk likes Trump, Get
Speaker 1: Musk and Trump. That's all you hear. Jasmine Crockett AOC.
Speaker 1: There are a couple of nitwits. They are the loudest
Speaker 1: voices in that party right now. There's nothing from any
Speaker 1: kind of creative standpoint, any kind of leadership standpoint, that's
Speaker 1: coming from that party. So as bad as Trump is
Speaker 1: getting it in the courts, it's even worse, I think
Speaker 1: in the mind of the American public for what the
Speaker 1: Democrats are doing right now. They're at a less than
Speaker 1: a thirty percent approval rate right now, Dan, and they
Speaker 1: keep singing the same songs that got them whacked in November.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with that party, but
Speaker 1: it looks like it's on life support right now. What
Speaker 1: about you, Yeah.
Speaker 2: The Democratic Party's lost right now. Don't have a leaders
Speaker 2: that's standing up and that people are rallying around.
Speaker 4: And you know, you nailed at Obama.
Speaker 2: Actually, one of the reasons he was successful, and prior
Speaker 2: to him, Bill Clinton, because Bill Clinton was somewhat of
Speaker 2: a centrist, he kind of moved to the center, and
Speaker 2: Obama because he was the first, you know, African American president.
Speaker 2: He kind of moved to the center. And I think
Speaker 2: the Democrats have lost their way and they have to
Speaker 2: realize that the American the Ken Bruce, the Dan Snells,
Speaker 2: and most Americans, seventy percent of America wants to just
Speaker 2: have the place we call home be made better. And
Speaker 2: we're in the center and we don't like the far
Speaker 2: extreme left and the far extreme right. We want somebody
Speaker 2: to be where most people are. And they have to
Speaker 2: find someone. I'm not sure, you know, I say with
Speaker 2: a smile. And I heard you mentioned about Andy Bisheer.
Speaker 2: I once thought he might be a decent candidate. I
Speaker 2: don't know, but the Democrats need to find somebody different
Speaker 2: than attack Trump because just as people are tired so
Speaker 2: tired of that, you know, and you and I've always
Speaker 2: talked about Trump needs to pivot himself because the midterms
Speaker 2: are coming up, and sometimes he gets himself in trouble
Speaker 2: with his words and behavior and rhetoric, and so it's
Speaker 2: going to be interesting you and I'll be talking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but what's going to.
Speaker 1: Happen in oh yeah, well, I mean if if, if,
Speaker 1: if the Republicans don't hold the House. First thing that
Speaker 1: Democrats are going to do, because this is all they know.
Speaker 1: They're they're they're just they're they're just blinded by their ideologies.
Speaker 1: They're going to impeach Trump and that will have that
Speaker 1: scenario that played out five six years ago. We're going
Speaker 1: to have it all over again. Or they're going to
Speaker 1: bring impeachment charges with Trump and then that'll paralyze the House,
Speaker 1: and then that'll paralyze the Senate. Because that's all they know.
Speaker 1: They don't they don't have any ideas. You mentioned Andy Basher.
Speaker 1: Yet at one point I thought Vasher was a moderate.
Speaker 1: But in the last week, this dude veto to bill
Speaker 1: that would ban gender affirming care through Medicaid VITA. He
Speaker 1: vetoed it. He vetoed a bill that would have beann
Speaker 1: dei in Kentucky public colleges and universities. These are hot
Speaker 1: button issues all over the country. In a state that
Speaker 1: Kentucky people say Kentucky's purple, Well, it's purple in the
Speaker 1: governor's office, but it's basically a red state. I just
Speaker 1: and by the way, both of those measures are going
Speaker 1: to get overridden because Kentucky's state legislature is overwhelmingly Republican.
Speaker 1: But my point is it even seems like a guy
Speaker 1: like Andy Basheer is falling into this trap. Where are
Speaker 1: the moderate voices? They're being strangled by Basher and his rulings.
Speaker 1: They're being strangled by Jasmin Krockett and AOC and Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 1: There have to be some moderate voices that understand that
Speaker 1: this country is best governed if it were a football
Speaker 1: field in between the forty yard lines, not far left
Speaker 1: and far right. Where are the moderate voices in the
Speaker 1: Democrat Party?
Speaker 3: Exactly?
Speaker 2: Exactly, you know, with a smile, I say that perhaps
Speaker 2: the Democratic Party should just send out all copies of
Speaker 2: the winsome candidate.
Speaker 1: Guys out here selling his book. Absolutely, it's a group
Speaker 1: of how old is that book?
Speaker 2: It's now twenty ninety five years old?
Speaker 5: Wow?
Speaker 2: When you and I first began this great air connected goodness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're about ready for another one. I know
Speaker 1: you had another one, but you're ready for another one
Speaker 1: after that. So you need to keep having the right.
Speaker 1: I'll get you all. I'll get your book sold for you.
Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is is I don't
Speaker 1: see the Democrats being a viable political force if they
Speaker 1: don't stop dying on these hills that America does not
Speaker 1: want them on in the first place, and until somebody
Speaker 1: that can think about that rationally talk to the American
Speaker 1: people about it and ignore the loud voices on the
Speaker 1: lunatic left until and half. I don't think that party
Speaker 1: is going forward very soon. I really don't. I'm not
Speaker 1: quite certain that Trump's going to get everything he wants,
Speaker 1: but he may keep the House in twenty twenty six,
Speaker 1: which keeps him out of impeachment, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we can hope for that. The interesting thing is,
Speaker 2: I think as a delay tactic, that's why we see
Speaker 2: all these legal challenges, in these court challenges and these
Speaker 2: judges challenging everything Trump does, because that just delays the
Speaker 2: progress when Trump has to fight what he's trying to
Speaker 2: do with some of his good ideas. You know, he
Speaker 2: is exceptional at come and throwing out ideas to get
Speaker 2: people to just think about it. You know, when he
Speaker 2: first talked about Canada, so many people thought, well.
Speaker 4: That's.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, but they really think about it and how it
Speaker 2: would impact them, and how just because we're so used
Speaker 2: to the world map being exactly as it was. Hey,
Speaker 2: the Louisiana purchase was once made, people probably thought that
Speaker 2: was a folly, and so who knows what could happen
Speaker 2: and in Greenland and Canada. But what happens is when
Speaker 2: you will challenge him with all these courtroom battles, and
Speaker 2: it delays, and they're trying to maybe delay till they
Speaker 2: can get to the midterms.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: But it is like a basketball game, and you got
Speaker 2: both teams strategizing, but Trump Trump has got the fans
Speaker 2: are mostly in the stands cheering for Donald Trump. We're
Speaker 2: gonna see what happens in our months ahead.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, And I guarantee you if you were on
Speaker 1: the court last night officiating that Colorado State Maryland game,
Speaker 1: you Dan Snell, who never saw a violation he didn't like, you,
Speaker 1: would have blown that guy steps traveling Colorado State plays
Speaker 1: on Maryland's on a bus home. Well that's a topic
Speaker 1: for another day. I'm sure you look at that and
Speaker 1: dissect it and everything and make a full reports of
Speaker 1: the NCAA. But for your time here, Dan, we appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Stay well. I always say this. We need to hear
Speaker 1: your voice.
Speaker 4: It's always great to be with you.
Speaker 2: Can you stay wins my friend?
Speaker 1: All right? All right, there he is Dan Snell, author
Speaker 1: of The Winsome Way, the winsome candidate who doesn't want
Speaker 1: to be winsome in this day and age, And sure
Speaker 1: as Avy University is that way too. Maybe Chris Mack
Speaker 1: is coming back. Maybe they're going to have another another
Speaker 1: homecoming for Chris Mack. I walked down that path with
Speaker 1: Sean Miller. Sean Miller saw the first thing that came
Speaker 1: down the pike that looked better, and Austin Leavista baby.
Speaker 1: But nevertheless, maybe it's Chris Mack.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It'd be nice to have a Mac attack here again.
Speaker 1: It is twelve twenty four News Radio seven hundred w
Speaker 1: WELW thirty six News Radio seven hundred w WELW. Welcome
Speaker 1: back the average American in for the great American. Sean
Speaker 1: Never is apparently leaving Xavier again. Xavior fan is mad.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, who didn't see this coming? Miller did it
Speaker 1: once before, do it once? Chances are you'll do it again.
Speaker 1: Ask any jilted wife. Xavier through Miller a lifeline three
Speaker 1: years ago. Remember Miller was radioactive. You know the story
Speaker 1: one of his assistant coaches where Miller had landed after
Speaker 1: leaving Xavier. That was the first time he left Xavier anyway.
Speaker 1: One of his assistant coaches got collared in a play
Speaker 1: for pay scandal, another in an academic scandal, and then
Speaker 1: the University of Arizona, where he had landed, finally canned Miller.
Speaker 1: Xavier took him back. Cheated on spouses. Always think it'll
Speaker 1: be better with a little counseling. You know, a Xavier
Speaker 1: fan feels like a cheated spouse today. He should not.
Speaker 1: It's not Miller, it's college athletics. Don't hate the player,
Speaker 1: hate the game. Miller is taking the money and running.
Speaker 1: You would have too. You've never taken a job because
Speaker 1: it paid more money, or the new company you're running
Speaker 1: to would make it easier for you to do your job.
Speaker 1: You're either stupid or lying. It's done every day. College
Speaker 1: Athletics is just catching up. Miller is going to make
Speaker 1: more money at Texas, but it's the money his players
Speaker 1: there will make that's the issue. The last stats we
Speaker 1: got about Xavier's name, image, and likeness and what they
Speaker 1: haul in came to about one million dollars one million total,
Speaker 1: about one hundred and fifty Xavier athletes split the pot.
Speaker 1: Those numbers were from two years ago in Austin, Texas,
Speaker 1: Longhorn players split about fifteen and a half mil same
Speaker 1: time two years ago, two schools, fourteen and a half
Speaker 1: million dollar difference. In today's NCAA, money buys players, players
Speaker 1: win championships. That's why Xavier is looking for a new
Speaker 1: head coach. Coaches are motivated by two things and two
Speaker 1: things only, championship, opportunity and money. Sean Miller is like
Speaker 1: any other coach. He got it better in Texas on
Speaker 1: both fronts. And don't scream about loyalty. I heard all
Speaker 1: about loyalty this morning. Don't scream about loyalty everywhere. Loyalty
Speaker 1: is dying, layoffs, twenty year company guy fired, customer service indifference.
Speaker 1: There's a reason why the big boss man really leaves
Speaker 1: the c suite these days. It doesn't matter what team Reds, Bengals,
Speaker 1: uc ZAB, doesn't matter what player. You will always care
Speaker 1: more about them than they will care about you. Teams
Speaker 1: and players may be your passion, but to them it's
Speaker 1: just a job.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: The American Psychological Association says up to forty percent of
Speaker 1: marriages and because of infidelity, fifty percent of all marriages
Speaker 1: and period in divorce, No increases to sixty percent in
Speaker 1: second marriages. The numbers don't lie. Xavier should have seen
Speaker 1: it coming. Don't hate the player, hate the game. But
Speaker 1: what is Sean Miller allegedly running zoo? And how good
Speaker 1: is it? Standing by is one of the top experts
Speaker 1: on NIL name image and likeness and why it now
Speaker 1: runs college athletics more so than any coach and any
Speaker 1: athletic director, and a large reason why you see coaches
Speaker 1: jumping here there and players everywhere. He's our good buddy
Speaker 1: from the app my NIL pay Brett Chapman, how are
Speaker 1: you on this glorious day? Ken?
Speaker 3: It is so great to be back.
Speaker 5: And that was an incredible introduction about NIL.
Speaker 3: I love hearing it.
Speaker 1: It's true though, that's what's going on. The transfer portal
Speaker 1: opens to if your coach has left, you're trying, or
Speaker 1: your coach has been fired, you're trying to scramble and
Speaker 1: get somebody to replace him because teams need to be rebuilt.
Speaker 1: Players now have this ability to move from team to team.
Speaker 1: But how much better will it be for Sean Miller?
Speaker 5: Who?
Speaker 1: And again these there are numbers from two years ago,
Speaker 1: so I don't know what twenty twenty four numbers are
Speaker 1: but by and large, Xavier's collective made about a million dollars.
Speaker 1: That's not a lot of money for a lot of athletes.
Speaker 1: What is it like now in Texas?
Speaker 5: Well, I can tell you my information is probably close
Speaker 5: to that eight old is that the starting lineup of
Speaker 5: Texas for basketball is about two million dollars.
Speaker 3: So wow.
Speaker 5: But here's the funny part, right, didn't Javier just beat
Speaker 5: Texas eighty six to eighty Yeah.
Speaker 3: Their entigher nil pot is less.
Speaker 5: Than what the starting lineup was making and they beat them. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: So I mean where it's going Ken is unfortunately is
Speaker 5: you said it right? It's being very financial focused, right,
Speaker 5: and a team like Texas they of course and I
Speaker 5: say of course, but you know, they're one of the
Speaker 5: larger universities in the country. They have a huge, wealthy
Speaker 5: alumni network, you know, fortune, five hundred CIOs, oil, gas tech,
Speaker 5: millions of dollars flowing into their collective and into the
Speaker 5: Obviously football and basketball are their big programs, so they
Speaker 5: have millions of dollars. In Xavier, although a strong regional
Speaker 5: basketball school, basketball focused to a no football program.
Speaker 3: To compete with, they just can't compete against a school
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 5: And that's not just for players, unfortunately, that's also for coaches.
Speaker 5: What we're seeing with the cheating husband Scott.
Speaker 1: Miller, you know, And all you have to do really
Speaker 1: is look at this year's NCAA tournament. Nil is catching up.
Speaker 1: It is you know, the days of the quaint stories
Speaker 1: of you know that fourteen seed. You always know that
Speaker 1: fourteen seed is going to beat that what would it be?
Speaker 1: The three seed. It's always going to happen, Just wait
Speaker 1: for it. It's not. There's a reason why I think
Speaker 1: seven maybe seven SEC schools are in the NCAA Sweet sixteen.
Speaker 1: There's a reason why all four number one seeds are
Speaker 1: still there, all four number two's, all four number threes,
Speaker 1: all four number they're all still there. And why are
Speaker 1: they there Because they've got money and money buys players.
Speaker 1: And you know the days of the mid majors or
Speaker 1: the days of that second tier school and the Big
Speaker 1: ten or the SEC or the AC seed, they are gone.
Speaker 1: It's sailed. And you know, people that want to go
Speaker 1: back to where it was, it's never going back there
Speaker 1: to that place.
Speaker 6: Is.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 5: And I think another important part isn't just the money
Speaker 5: they get paid, you know, from the school which is
Speaker 5: coming isn't there yet, or the collective. It's also the
Speaker 5: marketing and branding. So think of it this way, Right,
Speaker 5: you go to Texas, you have more access than national media,
Speaker 5: major TV games, endorsement potential, you're a big name, right,
Speaker 5: you can you can shinner rate your you can increase
Speaker 5: your personal brand.
Speaker 3: Right. So that that has also a really big part
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 5: And I'll say, having been in the space, that is
Speaker 5: where a lot of the where a lot of the
Speaker 5: business sits is in the marketing aspect and the branding
Speaker 5: aspect of it. There's a million of those guys out
Speaker 5: there trying to convince these kids that they can brand
Speaker 5: themselves and they can market themselves.
Speaker 3: And if you're if they're.
Speaker 5: Talking to one of these guys and say, hey, I've
Speaker 5: got a good opportunity at Texas or Xavier, what do
Speaker 5: you think the guy's going to say. He's going to say,
Speaker 5: go to Texas. And that's part of the problem, right,
Speaker 5: is that not just the money, but you've also got
Speaker 5: all the influence of branding and the social media aspects.
Speaker 5: They're encouraging the kids to go where they can get
Speaker 5: more exposure sure.
Speaker 1: And because let's again be real, the NBA for most
Speaker 1: of the players that you're watching here during this field
Speaker 1: of sixty eight is not a realistic goal. It's like
Speaker 1: anything else, only the best go to the best. There's
Speaker 1: a finite number of teams. So in essence, college basketball
Speaker 1: for most of these players is their NBA. Make the money,
Speaker 1: earn the brand, make money off the brand for as
Speaker 1: long as you can. And that's what's going on here.
Speaker 1: And look, I watch coaches in this town come and go,
Speaker 1: they leave at the drop of the hat. I don't
Speaker 1: get upset when a player decides, you know what, I
Speaker 1: can get it better somewhere else. You know what that does?
Speaker 1: That just puts more pressure on the coach who's always
Speaker 1: had the ability to come and go at his pleasure.
Speaker 1: So I don't I have no sympathy for these coaches,
Speaker 1: nor do I have any sympathy for these universities that
Speaker 1: can't afford to keep a coach. You want to play
Speaker 1: the game, pony up the money, and it's a it's
Speaker 1: a it's a it's a war of attrition. A lot
Speaker 1: of these basketball only schools, like Xavier, like Georgetown, they're
Speaker 1: going to find it increasingly difficult to generate the kind
Speaker 1: of nil money that major state schools like Texas can generate.
Speaker 1: And it's just going to be the way of the world.
Speaker 1: You'll learn either to lower your expectations or hope that somehow,
Speaker 1: some way, once every fifteen or twenty years, you're going
Speaker 1: to sneak in and win something. But that that's the
Speaker 1: direction all of this is going, is it not?
Speaker 3: It is? And I think that there's a very important thing.
Speaker 5: I think we talked about this the last time I
Speaker 5: was on, which is the House versus ncaa settlement right
Speaker 5: that would allow the schools to pay twenty two million
Speaker 5: dollars a year to athletes. Now, keeping mind today so
Speaker 5: that everyone understands, the collectives are funded by donors.
Speaker 3: So yeah, if you're a.
Speaker 5: Smaller school, you probably don't have the same amount of
Speaker 5: wealthy donors as a larger school ass But the universities
Speaker 5: here in the future will be able to pay out
Speaker 5: of their endowments for athletics.
Speaker 3: So it actually gets shifted back.
Speaker 5: Right now, Xavier can kind of be like, well, you
Speaker 5: know we're not out of that. Well, we have nothing
Speaker 5: to do with it, right, that's on our donors, right, well,
Speaker 5: in a year or so, it's going to be on
Speaker 5: that like, hey, why didn't you take twenty million dollars
Speaker 5: out of your endowment and pump it towards sports. You
Speaker 5: can point the finger back at then, But here's what
Speaker 5: I would say. I would say, Look, dude, if I
Speaker 5: was a university like Xavier, I would take my twenty
Speaker 5: million dollars. I would buy the best basketball team money
Speaker 5: can buy for twenty million dollars, and I would win
Speaker 5: the national championship because I'm pretty sure you can go
Speaker 5: a long way with twenty million dollars with some young kids.
Speaker 5: You win the championship, and then guess what, you rebuilt
Speaker 5: the credibility, and now you've got the brand, and now
Speaker 5: everyone wants to play there because you're a final fourteen.
Speaker 3: You can do that with twenty million dollars.
Speaker 5: But guess what, I'm pretty sure the academics that run
Speaker 5: any university, especially.
Speaker 3: Xavier, probably aren't that focused on sports to spend that
Speaker 3: money on winning a championship.
Speaker 1: No, I know that, but it's interesting. Interesting you mentioned
Speaker 1: that I went to Ohio University, which is a smaller
Speaker 1: state school here in Ohio, great academically in several fields,
Speaker 1: other fields, it could stand some improvement. But they had
Speaker 1: a school president back in the early part of the
Speaker 1: two thousands. His name was doctor Roderick McDavid, and he
Speaker 1: figured out quickly that the front porch to any university
Speaker 1: is athletics, and that you could have the greatest school
Speaker 1: of chemistry, or you could have the greatest school of
Speaker 1: osteopathic medicine, or you could have the greatest school of journalism.
Speaker 1: That's all well and good. There's a lot of those
Speaker 1: out there, But if no one knows about it, then
Speaker 1: what is it? But if you have a good football
Speaker 1: team and he built one with a legendary coach, and
Speaker 1: you have a basketball team that can win games on
Speaker 1: the national stage, and he had one that did the
Speaker 1: you know, one of the Sweet sixteen a few years ago,
Speaker 1: and that had never happened there in decades, you'll get eyeballs,
Speaker 1: and who knows, there could be some kid or his
Speaker 1: parents sitting there watching that game. What is Ohio?
Speaker 3: You know? What is that?
Speaker 1: Where is that? It's where?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 3: What is it known?
Speaker 1: And if you just get ten students that you had
Speaker 1: no shot at getting to come there and go to
Speaker 1: your school and pay tuition and then do something dynamic
Speaker 1: with that education. After they're there, you can't buy anything better.
Speaker 1: But to get there, you've got to have a calling card.
Speaker 1: And he realized it was athletics. And that's not a
Speaker 1: bad idea. I don't I don't run I don't purport
Speaker 1: to run any any university, nor do I want to.
Speaker 1: But what gets you your most eyeballs and what gets
Speaker 1: you your most bang for the buck in an where
Speaker 1: you can actually go out and buy it, not recruited
Speaker 1: and hope. It's college athletics. It's the way of the world, Brent.
Speaker 3: That is correct, and it's not.
Speaker 5: And the thing that you said in the open, which
Speaker 5: I thought was very silly, is it ain't changing, right,
Speaker 5: It's only.
Speaker 3: Going to get worse, and it's only going to be
Speaker 3: more focused on money. And but there is an opportunity there.
Speaker 5: It's all about what is the school motive and goals
Speaker 5: and what do they want to get out of it.
Speaker 5: But I agree with you with your example, and you
Speaker 5: can use sports to a gain awareness for university. I
Speaker 5: grew up in the mid nineties in the Detroit area
Speaker 5: and I know all about Xavier basketball. They had some
Speaker 5: really good teams when I was growing up they really did,
Speaker 5: and that's how I know I wouldn't know Xavier otherwise.
Speaker 5: I know Xavier because they had good basketball teams and
Speaker 5: I had them.
Speaker 3: In my bracket when I was in high school.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so yeah, it's kind of You're writing creates a
Speaker 5: lot of awareness around around the school.
Speaker 1: Brent Chapmans, our guest. My nil pay is his app
Speaker 1: where you can literally sit on your couch and watch
Speaker 1: an athletic event, and if you see an athlete, any athlete,
Speaker 1: any d one school, anywhere, and you say, well, WHOA
Speaker 1: that was good or maybe a Jeralma monor hey that
Speaker 1: was great, score a touchdown, We're up. You have the ability, then,
Speaker 1: through his app, to make a payment to that player.
Speaker 1: The player has the option whether or not to accept it,
Speaker 1: but you have a chance to become active in this
Speaker 1: hole nil Okay, Brent, what do we tell Xavier fans
Speaker 1: today besides either pay up and get in the game
Speaker 1: or suck it up and just understand that it's never
Speaker 1: going to be the way you want it to be.
Speaker 1: What do you tell Xavier fans at this point?
Speaker 3: You know, I definitely am not a defeat this person.
Speaker 3: I'm a half a glass, half hole guy.
Speaker 5: So I would say, anticipate the way you can, right
Speaker 5: if it's twenty dollars to your collective or going on
Speaker 5: my nil pay and shooting the guy twenty bucks thirty bucks.
Speaker 5: Participate in the way that you can to support the kids.
Speaker 5: And let the university know too how you feel, because
Speaker 5: very quickly they're going to have the opportunity to do something.
Speaker 3: About it directly. They don't right now.
Speaker 5: But they will be able to within the next year
Speaker 5: or two. So I think that's important for Xavier fans.
Speaker 5: I've got a question for you, Ken though, before I
Speaker 5: take off, which is, how does your bracket look?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 1: You had to go there? Huh you had to go there? Well, look,
Speaker 1: I still have a shot. I still have a shot.
Speaker 1: I got duke winning, I have duke winning at all.
Speaker 1: So I'm still there. I'm still there. But I got
Speaker 1: buzzed by some overreach. I bought into the Akron you
Speaker 1: know narrative. Akron a hell of a year here. I
Speaker 1: bought into that narrative, and I thought, okay, well, obviously
Speaker 1: that didn't work out. I didn't get sucked into the
Speaker 1: North Carolina narrative. I knew that wasn't going to happen,
Speaker 1: and I had Marquette and I probably got you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that ruined a lot of people's brackets. But
Speaker 1: I got, I got Duke. I got Duke. They're still alive.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they get past Arizona here in
Speaker 1: the next round, and if they do, I'm I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what happens after that. But I got Duke in
Speaker 1: the next round, so we'll see. I don't know how's yours.
Speaker 3: I got an outside shot I got.
Speaker 5: I got Duke in Florida plus Michigan in Kentucky, so
Speaker 5: Michigan and Kentucky make it to the final fart.
Speaker 3: I might actually have a shot to win it. But
Speaker 3: I will tell you the funny part.
Speaker 5: We're in one of these bracket challenges, you know, with
Speaker 5: like two three hundred people, and my wife is currently
Speaker 5: in second place.
Speaker 3: Oh man, I can't remember the last watched the college Best.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry for you.
Speaker 3: So I just love this. I love this part about
Speaker 3: this year.
Speaker 5: You can literally know nothing about college basketball and be
Speaker 5: the second bracket.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she has Michigan State winning at.
Speaker 1: All, So we'll see. Oh, oh well they get they
Speaker 1: get Old Miss next, and then they may they'll probably well,
Speaker 1: they will get the Michigan A and M winner. I
Speaker 1: I'm not sorry, No, they get Yeah, they get old
Speaker 1: miss next and then they'll get right the Michigan Auburn winner.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that I don't it a shot? Yeah's a shot,
Speaker 1: all right, Brent, you stay well. Thanks for the insight.
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Yeah, take care, Ken, I have a
Speaker 1: good one man, Yes, Sir Brent Chapman. Anybody who didn't
Speaker 1: see this coming Xavier simply wasn't paying attention to twelve
Speaker 1: fifty four. Got a lot coming up on the show today.
Speaker 1: Coming up at one oh six, I'm going to talk
Speaker 1: to the man who shot Osama Bin Laden part of
Speaker 1: that Sealed Team six shot Osama bin Lauden. Coming up
Speaker 1: at one o six, two o six. Marriage and stress
Speaker 1: and how one couple figured it out despite the fact
Speaker 1: that the stress in their marriage is probably non paralleled.
Speaker 1: On seven hundred WTLW all right, seven hundred WLWT welcome back.
Speaker 1: It is one o seven here in the Greater Cincinnati area,
Speaker 1: counting down to a number of things this week, not
Speaker 1: the least of which Opening Day Thursday at Great American Ballpark.
Speaker 1: Weather is improving, and that's the way we like it.
Speaker 1: It's amazing to think back, but it will be in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, twenty five years since the greatest attack
Speaker 1: on this country when a band of thugs, a very
Speaker 1: small band of thugs, pulled off what we now referred
Speaker 1: to as nine to eleven and close to three thousand
Speaker 1: people lost their lives on that day, nine eleven, two
Speaker 1: thousand and one. It took almost ten years to hunt
Speaker 1: down and bring to justice the man who was the
Speaker 1: mastermind behind the nine to eleven attacks, and that of course,
Speaker 1: was Osama bin Laden. And it took the most elite
Speaker 1: fighting force that's out there, the most specially trained fighting
Speaker 1: force that is out there, to bring Osama bin Laden
Speaker 1: to his death and to his justice. And it is
Speaker 1: an honor to welcome into seven hundred wylw the man
Speaker 1: who was Senior Chief Special Warfare Operator, a Navy Sealed
Speaker 1: Team six leader. Highly decorated. He was with Sealed Team two,
Speaker 1: Sealed Team four, and eight years with the legendary Sealed
Speaker 1: Team six. It is an honor to welcome in Rob O'Neill. Rob,
Speaker 1: how are you on this glorious day?
Speaker 6: Good afternoon, Thanks for having me. I'm having a great day.
Speaker 6: It's a Monday, but it's a good one.
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh no, fine, great, Yeah. The first question is
Speaker 1: an innocuous one. Have you ever been to Cincinnati?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Of course.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's the best chili in the world. And here's
Speaker 6: here's a little story for you too. Two guys that
Speaker 6: went on the bin lottenrad with me were from Cincinnati.
Speaker 6: Before the bin Lotten Raid, we were in Iraq with
Speaker 6: no TV, no air conditioning.
Speaker 3: We're just there.
Speaker 6: I actually learned every word to the Cincinnati Bengals fights
Speaker 6: on the Bengal Grause. We'd sit there in a one
Speaker 6: hundred degree heat then, so I wanted to teach me
Speaker 6: because that was so uplifting. So we just sing out
Speaker 6: of nowhere. When Morale was in the dumping it was
Speaker 6: too hot, we just started saying the bango. I know
Speaker 6: to this day still it's my daughters.
Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. You were So it
Speaker 1: took almost ten years to get ben Laden. He got
Speaker 1: May second, two thousand and eleven is one it happened.
Speaker 1: I've read enough to know and understand enough to know
Speaker 1: that the training for that mission began long before May
Speaker 1: of twenty eleven. How far in advance did you Seal
Speaker 1: Team six be begin training for that mission.
Speaker 6: It was about two weeks before we were confirmed that
Speaker 6: we were gonna go after Bin Laden, but we'd actually
Speaker 6: been preparing for it before because we went immediately to
Speaker 6: war after nine to eleven. And just what we learned
Speaker 6: in combat in Afghanistan first, then Iraq, then all over
Speaker 6: you know, to include Yemen and Somalia, the Indian Ocean.
Speaker 6: We just got really good at what we were doing.
Speaker 6: We got really good at fighting the enemy and how
Speaker 6: to exploit it. And what that means is we just
Speaker 6: got better at keeping it simple. We stopped complicating everything.
Speaker 6: And if, like someone asked me before, how do you
Speaker 6: clear a compound.
Speaker 4: As big as the Laddens?
Speaker 6: And I just said, well, if the guy in front
Speaker 6: of me goes left, I go right, and then we
Speaker 6: just do that over and over and over and we
Speaker 6: I mean we just mentioned football, what like, there are
Speaker 6: certain times in life where it doesn't matter how you
Speaker 6: got here.
Speaker 4: You're just here.
Speaker 6: And that happened at the Bin Laden raid when a
Speaker 6: helicopter crashed. But when I talked to football teams, I
Speaker 6: tell them, guys, it doesn't matter why it's second and fifteen,
Speaker 6: It just is Stop arguing about it.
Speaker 4: What we have in common is time is ticking. What
Speaker 4: are you gonna do about it? Do it now?
Speaker 6: So it's just a simplicity. Don't don't talk yourself into
Speaker 6: a butt kicken. Don't over complicate life. It'll get hard
Speaker 6: enough on its own. Just master the basics.
Speaker 1: So you're basically a young man when all this is
Speaker 1: going on, you're in your early twenties.
Speaker 4: Correct when on that when I was in my early thirties,
Speaker 4: because I was.
Speaker 6: It took I mean, you know, if people talk about
Speaker 6: getting into bin Laden's room and shooting him and all
Speaker 6: that stuff, it's not like I was flown there out
Speaker 6: of high school. Like it took me personally fifteen and
Speaker 6: a half years to get to that spot of training
Speaker 6: and sweat and blood and selection courses, all the stuff
Speaker 6: and getting with the find and I'll be an honored
Speaker 6: to be pick on the pick, to be on the
Speaker 6: finest team I think ever assembled. But we were ready
Speaker 6: for it at that point when I mean, when they
Speaker 6: told us the first time they told us what it was,
Speaker 6: they said, the reason you guys are here is it
Speaker 6: as close as we've ever been to Osama bin Laden,
Speaker 6: And there was no cheering.
Speaker 4: You know, we're professionals. We all just said cool, we're
Speaker 4: going now.
Speaker 1: We're ready, yeah, and okay, So so help me through it.
Speaker 1: Because there were two black Hawk helicopters, one of which,
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, clipped I think one of the compound
Speaker 1: walls and kind of went down sideways. Were you on
Speaker 1: that chopper or the other one?
Speaker 6: No, I was on the other one, and I didn't
Speaker 6: even know it crashed until I got into bin Laden's house.
Speaker 6: And what had actually happened was it was a little
Speaker 6: bit warmer than we anticipated, a few degrees celsius.
Speaker 4: And the walls were different the mud walls we.
Speaker 6: Were training on chain link fences, so there was a
Speaker 6: weird updraft and you'd have to ask a pilot because
Speaker 6: I'm not smart enough.
Speaker 1: To be a pilot.
Speaker 6: But the pilot decided he couldn't hover, and if he said,
Speaker 6: a more inexperienced pilot would have tried to power it up.
Speaker 4: That would have rolled and killed everybody.
Speaker 6: But the pilot, in the blink of it, I decided
Speaker 6: if he turned it and put the tail on the wall,
Speaker 6: he could pin the nose of the helicopter in the
Speaker 6: dirt and it might save everyone's life, which it did.
Speaker 4: But that pilot is a hero.
Speaker 6: Oh and he just decided it to put it down
Speaker 6: on the ground and then that it is what it
Speaker 6: isn't The guys immediately got out and started fighting, and
Speaker 6: like I said, I didn't even know it crashed until
Speaker 6: because they put us off on the wrong spot, because
Speaker 6: our pilot realized if they can't hover, we can't. However,
Speaker 6: I was supposed to go to the rooftop of bin
Speaker 6: Lad's house with my team, but he just put us
Speaker 6: off outside the twenty foot walls and we had to
Speaker 6: figure out a way to get in. But again we
Speaker 6: were just very experienced at what we can do, and
Speaker 6: we we did figure it out eventually. But even the
Speaker 6: sniper that we dropped off on my helicopter, his job
Speaker 6: was to run around the entire compound with the dog
Speaker 6: outside the walls, and he got to the point where
Speaker 6: the tail the helicopter with the pilot pin and he
Speaker 6: could see it on the X here. He came over
Speaker 6: the radio and said, guys inside beyond alert. They're definitely
Speaker 6: ready for us. They have a training mockup of our
Speaker 6: super secret helicopter in their front yard. And there was
Speaker 6: a pause and the ground force commander came over the
Speaker 6: radio and goes, no, jackass, that's ours.
Speaker 4: We crashed and the.
Speaker 6: Sniper did a good thing, and he literally came over
Speaker 6: the radio and said, yeah, that makes a lot more
Speaker 6: sense than what I was just saying, Harry.
Speaker 1: Hung You know I do. What I don't under is
Speaker 1: my next trip on a black Hawk will be my first.
Speaker 1: Don't those things make noise? How big was this compound?
Speaker 1: If this isn't Pakistan, right, so how big is this compound?
Speaker 1: And why wouldn't you inside hear them?
Speaker 4: Well, they probably hurt him.
Speaker 6: They were a little quieter, they these were The President
Speaker 6: of the United States didn't know about these helicopters until
Speaker 6: a few months prior to this.
Speaker 4: These were super secret.
Speaker 6: These were self This is stuff they tell me I
Speaker 6: shouldn't talk about, but again I don't know much about it.
Speaker 4: The technology, as know, they were a little.
Speaker 6: Quieter and the radar couldn't see them, and you know,
Speaker 6: training with them, it's like, well, I'm glad the Aliens
Speaker 6: who invented these are on our side because this is ridiculous.
Speaker 4: But they were just really, really, really good helicopters.
Speaker 6: But again, because the Pakistani intelligence was hiding bid Laden there.
Speaker 6: He must have assumed it was just Pakistani forces coming
Speaker 6: to get him or bring him out and put them
Speaker 6: somewhere else, because I mean, they put up a little
Speaker 6: bit of a fight, but I'd be amazed there were
Speaker 6: no bombs in every room to blow us all up,
Speaker 6: and there wasn't a bigger like. People ask me why
Speaker 6: wasn't there more Al Kaita fighters, and I'm.
Speaker 4: Like, well, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I mean, all I could tell you is we didn't
Speaker 6: call ahead and say we were coming out, but they
Speaker 6: weren't ready. I mean, not that that would have matter,
Speaker 6: because we crushed these guys, but but they, you know,
Speaker 6: they had a little bit of defense. But we, you know,
Speaker 6: we were very prepared, very professional. We all, I mean
Speaker 6: every guy on that mission had at least four hundred
Speaker 6: real war missions under their belt. So it was a
Speaker 6: I mean, we're still on the right guys. Don't get
Speaker 6: me wrong. I didn't want twenty more fighters there, but
Speaker 6: we handled the ones we ran into, and it was
Speaker 6: we turned something potentially catastrophic into something great just because
Speaker 6: of our preparation to get there. Not a perfect plan,
Speaker 6: which the perfect plan did last for three seconds, which
Speaker 6: is normal in life, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, I mean and you mentioned the combat missions.
Speaker 1: You were a veteran of hundreds of combat missions. Yeah, decorated,
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, leading into the two Silver stars, four
Speaker 1: Bronze Stars, various Navy and Marine Corps accommodation medals, and
Speaker 1: so I mean you were, you were highly decorated. But
Speaker 1: as you know, well know, you go into any mission,
Speaker 1: there is the likelihood that you're not coming back from
Speaker 1: that mission. So it really didn't matter, I guess to
Speaker 1: you whether it was going after Osama bin Laden or
Speaker 1: a regular Tuesday when you're out on patrol, there's a
Speaker 1: good chance that you weren't coming back. How did you
Speaker 1: handle that uncertainty?
Speaker 6: Well, I mean the thing is, too is a bullet
Speaker 6: only needs to be right once, and if you get hit,
Speaker 6: it could end everything that's important, to everything you think matters.
Speaker 4: So you can end. If he gets shot, it could
Speaker 4: just be over.
Speaker 6: And this one in particular, you know, we had a
Speaker 6: ninety minute flight in on helicopters that we didn't know
Speaker 6: if they worked, and we can get shot down and
Speaker 6: this house should blow up and there's gonna be a gunfight.
Speaker 6: We're not gonna have enough fuel. This could go a
Speaker 6: number of different ways. It's a one way mission. We
Speaker 6: accepted that, but we talked about it so you know,
Speaker 6: if we I had a guy even say don't don't
Speaker 6: before he went, he said, don't take this the wrong way,
Speaker 6: because I'm going one hundred percent going, I just need
Speaker 6: to say it out loud.
Speaker 4: If we know we're gonna die tonight, why are we going?
Speaker 6: Which is fair? And we had that conversation and we
Speaker 6: decided we're not going for the fame. We're obviously not
Speaker 6: getting the reward, but we're going after bin loaden tonight
Speaker 6: for the first Americans that were forced to fight out
Speaker 6: KaiA toe to Toada to the death, and those are
Speaker 6: the passengers on United flight ninety three. You know, we're
Speaker 6: going after bin loaden tonight for the single mom who
Speaker 6: dropped their kids off at elementary school on a beautiful
Speaker 6: Tuesday morning and then an hour later she jump to
Speaker 6: her death out of a skyscraper. Because that's a better
Speaker 6: alternative right now than whatever's going on inside.
Speaker 4: And then we'll never know she was, you know she was.
Speaker 6: They were supposed to do that, and those passengers weren't
Speaker 6: supposed to fight. We are supposed to fight, and that
Speaker 6: is why we're going.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you get inside the compound and you make
Speaker 1: your way to the compound, tell me about getting inside
Speaker 1: the actual building where ben Laden is. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure the door wasn't open, and they had a butler
Speaker 1: that said, yes, he's upstairs. How do you get us
Speaker 1: to that part?
Speaker 6: I saw a funny a funny meme that had a
Speaker 6: thing from Midlin's ring camera that said, oh, someone's here, brb,
Speaker 6: some kidding. They know my first team from the crash
Speaker 6: helicopter had already gotten in. There had already been a gunfight.
Speaker 6: One of my guys had shot two terrors through the
Speaker 6: exterior windows before he was in, and they must have
Speaker 6: kicked the door hit it with a sledgeham or something,
Speaker 6: but it was already open and they were already clearing
Speaker 6: it by the time I got in. So I was
Speaker 6: on the first floor watching my guys, and I kind
Speaker 6: of just went into a side room. That's where one
Speaker 6: of the other dudes told me their helicopter crashed. And
Speaker 6: I was just impressed that because I'm looking for bombs
Speaker 6: now this place should blow up. He's gonna martyr everyone.
Speaker 6: But I was looking at my guys who were working
Speaker 6: ahead of me, because I'm in a position I have
Speaker 6: the best seat on the most important, modern, most important
Speaker 6: mission modern history. So I'm watching my guys and I
Speaker 6: was just proud of them because they know damn well
Speaker 6: they can blow up at any moment, but that's not
Speaker 6: stopping them. They're not afraid, and they're not speeding up.
Speaker 6: They're they're using our tactics. And the way, the best
Speaker 6: way to describe our tactics are slow as smooth and
Speaker 6: smooth as fast. So if you want to be fast,
Speaker 6: slow down, you know. And I'm watching them do it.
Speaker 6: And the woman who found bin Laden, the CIA agent
Speaker 6: who was depicted in zero dor thirty, said that I
Speaker 6: don't know what it looks like inside, but there will
Speaker 6: be stairwells and the first.
Speaker 4: One you will run into Khalid bin Laden, and that's
Speaker 4: his twenty year old son. He will be armed.
Speaker 6: And she said, so here's how cool she was. He said,
Speaker 6: if you can ace him, you get a shot at
Speaker 6: the big guy. That was cool, and we ran into him.
Speaker 6: The guys in front of me took carry him, so
Speaker 6: we went up to the second floor. He's dead on
Speaker 6: the stairs and then I was about eight guys back
Speaker 6: in line. Everyone except the first guy started going left
Speaker 6: and right to clear the unknowns, the different rooms, stuff
Speaker 6: like that. So it's down to two of us going
Speaker 6: from the second floor to the third floor, and that's
Speaker 6: where we know bin Laden is. So there's one guy
Speaker 6: in front of me and he's pointing his gun up
Speaker 6: the stairs and these stairs lead to a curtain like
Speaker 6: a door, but it was just a curtain and he
Speaker 6: could see people moving back and forth.
Speaker 1: So it's down to me.
Speaker 6: My job is to control his shoulder so that when
Speaker 6: we have and look for other guys that we're gonna bring.
Speaker 6: His job is to look forward so he doesn't need
Speaker 6: to look at me. But once I squeeze, it's time
Speaker 6: to go. And he just started saying, hey, we gotta go,
Speaker 6: we gotta get up, we gotta go. Come on now,
Speaker 6: because he's thinking those are suicide bombers. But we can
Speaker 6: beat him if we go right now. We can't hesitate.
Speaker 6: And I remember looking at him and literally he was brave.
Speaker 4: I wasn't.
Speaker 6: I'm thinking, Okay, ben Line's up there and I'm gonna
Speaker 6: blow up, but I'm just tired of thinking about it.
Speaker 6: It wasn't bravery at all. It's like, let's just go.
Speaker 6: So I squeezed him and he went up and he
Speaker 6: went to that curtain and he moved it, and he
Speaker 6: sort of tackled these two people that he assumed were
Speaker 6: suicide bombers, like he didn't know he thought they were.
Speaker 6: So he jumped on a grenade that didn't go off,
Speaker 6: which how he doesn't have a medal of honor is
Speaker 6: beyond me. But because he went left, I went right
Speaker 6: because of our tactics. And right in front of me,
Speaker 6: three feet away, standing on two feet was the Sauna
Speaker 6: b Lunn and his wife Lamal was in front of
Speaker 6: her him and he had his arms on her shoulders,
Speaker 6: and I remember thinking, I was I didn't think he would.
Speaker 4: Be as skinny as he was.
Speaker 6: He was taller than I thought, and his beard was
Speaker 6: sort of gray. But that's his nose, that's him. He's
Speaker 6: not surrendering. I've seen that picture a thousand times. He's
Speaker 6: a suicide bomber. I got to take him out, and
Speaker 6: the way you deal with the suicide bombers to shoot
Speaker 6: him in the face. So I did twice at about
Speaker 6: three feet away, and then he fell down. I shot
Speaker 6: him one more time, and then because his wife is
Speaker 6: in front of me and we're the good guys. Now
Speaker 6: it's time to move her out of the way because
Speaker 6: other seals will be coming in. I don't want it
Speaker 6: to be a crossfire. And that's when I looked down
Speaker 6: and saw his two year old son. And this is
Speaker 6: the humanity of stuff like this. I'm a father and
Speaker 6: I'm looking at his two year old son. And my
Speaker 6: first thought was, this kid has nothing to do with this.
Speaker 6: He should not have seen this. So I'm moving them
Speaker 6: out of the way, and I tune around. I can
Speaker 6: hear bin Laden exhaling.
Speaker 4: I can.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's an ugly side. I can see what
Speaker 6: it looks like. It gets shot in the head three
Speaker 6: times at close range. And I'm kind of looking at him,
Speaker 6: and one of my friends comes up to me. He
Speaker 6: kind of gets controlling me and says, hey, are you good?
Speaker 6: And I said I am, But what do we do now?
Speaker 6: And we laughed and he said, now we find the computers. Bro,
Speaker 6: if we do this every night, hundreds of times, you've
Speaker 6: done this, come on And I said, you're right, I'm back,
Speaker 6: Oh my god. And his words to me were, yeah,
Speaker 6: you just killed Osama Bin laden and your life just changed.
Speaker 4: Now get to work.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And so at that point you get the
Speaker 1: body out. They don't want him to become a martyr,
Speaker 1: they don't want to leave him behind. You got to
Speaker 1: get the body out. You got to throw the body
Speaker 1: on the helicopter and get back to base or I
Speaker 1: guess to the aircraft carrier, right, because that's where it
Speaker 1: was a thing at sea, right.
Speaker 6: Well, we had to call another helicopter in because we
Speaker 6: have to blow the one that crash up. So we
Speaker 6: have to call and no one realizes this too, is
Speaker 6: that that's more Army pilots and another Army helicopter and
Speaker 6: more Navy seals. So the heroes on that mission, the
Speaker 6: Army and Seal Team six, actually rescued Seal Team six
Speaker 6: on the Bin Laden raid.
Speaker 4: No one ever talks about that. I'm amazed.
Speaker 6: But so that's the one we got to get out of.
Speaker 6: So we turned the body to the first team that
Speaker 6: Krash gave them our initial helicopter. This one came in
Speaker 6: to get us, and then we're leaving. And this is
Speaker 6: the coolest part of the mission because we just we
Speaker 6: got his body. Now we're leieving the Pakistani's no we're here,
Speaker 6: and they're definitely gonna try to shoot us down with
Speaker 6: a jet that we sold them, and a jet against
Speaker 6: the helicopter is a bad fight. But if we can
Speaker 6: live for ninety minutes, we get fifty years. I get
Speaker 6: to see my kids again. But worrying about a missile
Speaker 6: shooting me down, Isy're gonna stop it, So I'm not
Speaker 6: gonna worry about it. So I just start on my
Speaker 6: stopwatch and I'm waiting for ninety minutes. If I get
Speaker 6: ninety minutes across that border, across the border into Afghanistan,
Speaker 6: we live. And I look down at my watch, It's
Speaker 6: like I spent ten minutes. I spent twenty minutes. The
Speaker 6: sniper sitting next to me is the guy who rescued
Speaker 6: Richard Phillips from Smallly Pirates. Like, this is how small
Speaker 6: this team is. I looked thirty minutes. Now it's spend
Speaker 6: forty fifty minutes. Now it's spent fifty minutes. Got to
Speaker 6: get to ninety seventy minutes. Then I start thinking you
Speaker 6: just mentioned baseball. I started thinking about a baseball game,
Speaker 6: top of the seventh watching a no hitter, like I
Speaker 6: don't want to jinx this I don't want to say anything,
Speaker 6: but it's been eighty minutes.
Speaker 4: Got to get to ninety.
Speaker 6: Then I love sports analogies because it doesn't matter how
Speaker 6: you got some even a pro golfer, you had a
Speaker 6: team with you, right, So I love sports analogies. I
Speaker 6: started thinking about the greatest sporting event in American history
Speaker 6: in nineteen eighty Lake Placid, when Team USA Hockey was
Speaker 6: playing the greatest hockey team ever assembled, the Russians, the
Speaker 6: professional Russian team. We've never lost since the fifties or
Speaker 6: something like that. And you have this group of college
Speaker 6: kids have no business being on the ice, but now
Speaker 6: they're winning. And it's three to four in the third period.
Speaker 6: You hear the crowd ten nine ftill nervous, you know,
Speaker 6: six five, And then the pilot came over the radio.
Speaker 4: This is going through my head.
Speaker 6: Then the pilot comes over the radio at eighty five
Speaker 6: minutes into a ninety minute flight, and he said, very calmly,
Speaker 6: all right, gentlemen, for the first time in your lives,
Speaker 6: you're gonna be happy to hear this.
Speaker 4: Welcome to Afghanistan.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, wow, yep.
Speaker 6: So we fly him down, We bring him to Jalalabad
Speaker 6: to show Admiral mccraven, who was running the mission officer I've.
Speaker 4: Ever worked for.
Speaker 6: And then we showed it to the showed the body
Speaker 6: to the woman who found him, and she was she
Speaker 6: she that was the only thing he did in life
Speaker 6: was find him.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 6: She gave up her life, no husband, no kids, seven
Speaker 6: days a week for years to find him. And we
Speaker 6: walked her over to his body, and I thought it
Speaker 6: would have.
Speaker 4: Been cool enough, this could have ended it.
Speaker 6: I pointed to his body and I said to her,
Speaker 6: is that your guy? And she looked at for second,
Speaker 6: pated me on the back. He goes, well, I get
Speaker 6: I guess I'm out of an expletive job.
Speaker 4: And she just left. That was so cool.
Speaker 6: And then we flew him up to Bagram and we
Speaker 6: had to we had to show the agency it was here.
Speaker 6: And then the professional photographer and a professional scientist doing
Speaker 6: DNA confirmed and I'm standing above.
Speaker 4: I'm standing at the feet of been lawn. He's laying
Speaker 4: right here. I hear President Obama. He's on TV. We're
Speaker 4: watching this.
Speaker 6: I'm eating a breakfast sandwich and he says, tonight I
Speaker 6: can report to the American people and to the world
Speaker 6: the United States conducted an operation to kill Osama bin Lan,
Speaker 6: the leader of al Qaeda. I hear the President say,
Speaker 6: oh Sama bin Laden. I look at Osama bin Laden
Speaker 6: eating a breakfast sandwich, and I thought, how in the
Speaker 6: world did I get here from Butte Montana. And then
Speaker 6: we turned him over to the army. They flew him
Speaker 6: out to the carrier. I didn't see him get dumped
Speaker 6: in the water. That's the story we got. And we
Speaker 6: literally flew from there to Virginia Beach when we were
Speaker 6: home sixteen hours later.
Speaker 1: Boy Rob O'Neill, Robert O'Neill is our guest. His book
Speaker 1: is a New York Times bestseller, The Operator Firing the
Speaker 1: Shots that killed Osama Bin Laden and My years as
Speaker 1: a Navy Seal Team Warrior. Your life is a man changed,
Speaker 1: as you mentioned immediately after you put three into ben Laden.
Speaker 1: You're a marked man. Obviously there are people that want
Speaker 1: to see you personally dead because of that. So tell
Speaker 1: me about your life today, precautions you have to take
Speaker 1: or are you the kind of guy that says, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm just going to live my life. I did what
Speaker 1: I needed to do, and I'm not going to let
Speaker 1: anybody bother me.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, precautions should be there and everybody should
Speaker 6: be prepared for anything, and that's just that my role
Speaker 6: right now. I mean, I don't discuss the security.
Speaker 4: I haven't play. I have a lot in place.
Speaker 6: I know how to handle myself, so I'm not you know,
Speaker 6: I can take care of myself and my family, So
Speaker 6: I'm It's one of those things you don't want to
Speaker 6: get complacent just because these people don't only need to.
Speaker 4: Be right once.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I'm a target, but so is every other
Speaker 6: American and it would be a lot easier if they
Speaker 6: can get weapons into this country, which they have, by
Speaker 6: the way, over an open border for the past four years.
Speaker 6: They would much rather go to Times Square and kill
Speaker 6: a bunch of people that just try to find me because.
Speaker 4: I'm a hard target.
Speaker 6: But a lot of people out there have their head
Speaker 6: in the sand and don't realize that just because you're
Speaker 6: not at war with someone doesn't mean they're not at
Speaker 6: war with you.
Speaker 4: So I mean, yeah, I mean, but I see, I bet.
Speaker 6: I was forced at a young age to get completely
Speaker 6: immersed in what I call reality, and there's not a
Speaker 6: lot of that going on, especially in this country with
Speaker 6: the political landscape. So I mean, I live my life
Speaker 6: but on that too though you know a lot of
Speaker 6: political fighting that's only on the internet when you get outside,
Speaker 6: even in other countries. Because my favorite saying is it's
Speaker 6: a large planet, but it's a small world. Believe it
Speaker 6: or not, most people are actually really good. Most people
Speaker 6: just want to including in combat zones, they just want
Speaker 6: to get on with their lives and razor kid like
Speaker 6: the rest of us.
Speaker 4: So I mean, you know, don't get complacent.
Speaker 6: But either there are threats, but for the majority of
Speaker 6: my life that most you know, people are just great.
Speaker 6: If you're angry at social media, put your phone down
Speaker 6: and go outside and talk to people. Go to a deli,
Speaker 6: get a sandwich, Go get some chili at highlight.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, just keep there, live your life. Understand that,
Speaker 1: you know, you could either live your life in fear
Speaker 1: or you can live your life the way we were
Speaker 1: meant to live our lives. But that doesn't mean you
Speaker 1: have to be stupid about it when you live it,
Speaker 1: I think is what you're saying. You're forty eight years old.
Speaker 1: Forty eight years old, now, right, what are you doing now?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Besides talking about.
Speaker 4: Well, this is the best part of my life right now.
Speaker 4: We're having a bless Yeah.
Speaker 6: I host a podcast to the same name, called The Operator,
Speaker 6: and I just I'm not calling myself an operator. I'm
Speaker 6: giving you my description of my life as an operator.
Speaker 6: And I want to hear your life is an operator
Speaker 6: and being an operator. If you're doing anything to help
Speaker 6: your family or your community, or your church or your schools,
Speaker 6: you're an operator.
Speaker 4: So I like to hear from people.
Speaker 3: So I do that.
Speaker 6: And my book The Operator, I saw on my website
Speaker 6: and I sign a lot for people because we have
Speaker 6: fun with it. Like I don't use an auto pen,
Speaker 6: then I don't use plateless. I take uh, whatever you
Speaker 6: want signed in the book is there's an inscription part
Speaker 6: and I have put what people want. It's just fun
Speaker 6: because people like it's just awesome. It's it's not always
Speaker 6: a military theme or motivation.
Speaker 4: I got one the other day. It's my favorite.
Speaker 6: Some dude bought my book for his buddy as a
Speaker 6: birthday present and he had me signed Dear Jeff, you
Speaker 6: kill it selling mattresses like I killed the Loud.
Speaker 4: We have fun with me, so we have fun with that.
Speaker 1: That's great. Hey, Rob O'Neil, this has been a trip, man,
Speaker 1: I would tell but we can do anything. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I believe me. I'm I'm gonna hang on to your
Speaker 1: number and and next time I'll play the Bengals theme
Speaker 1: song for you, just to uh, you know, just to
Speaker 1: get your back in the mood for everything. How about that?
Speaker 4: I can you played? You played the Bengo Girl anytime
Speaker 4: you have.
Speaker 1: A fire up?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: I love that song. About time the bout time for
Speaker 4: a super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I'm just hey, you're telling us, you're telling us stay
Speaker 1: well and we'll we'll visit down the road.
Speaker 4: Thank you, outstand, Thanks for having me have a great day.
Speaker 1: You bet, I don't know what you've done in life.
Speaker 1: That's what he's done. One nine News Radio seven hundred
Speaker 1: w WELW. You know, I thought our crowd was incredible.
Speaker 7: You know, I certainly tried to do the best that
Speaker 7: I could to share with our crowd how important they
Speaker 7: are to our success, especially down the stretch. We now
Speaker 7: have four home games left, and you know tonight Tonight's
Speaker 7: crowd and yukont crowd or man, it just it doesn't
Speaker 7: get any better anywhere in college basketball than how that feels.
Speaker 1: Oh hello, quiet, and I'm I'm broadcasting God, got your boy, said,
Speaker 1: got your boy? I am got your boy.
Speaker 8: Another one, another one goes, and another one will come
Speaker 8: into town, and they'll go and they'll come. And what's
Speaker 8: I mean everybody getting upside?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean how many times does it happen?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: Look at you see?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean when you see I mean, what's Jones three
Speaker 1: and done? Yeah? Brian Kelly three and done? Yep, Tommy
Speaker 1: t Well probably couldn't get out of there quick enough,
Speaker 1: went to the Senate right exactly. And then Fickle what
Speaker 1: was fickle? He was three four and done? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's and it's going to be even worse now because
Speaker 1: you can you can literally buy players, and the more
Speaker 1: money you have to buy better players, the more chance
Speaker 1: you're going to have to win, which will keep the
Speaker 1: the alumni off your rear end and also give you
Speaker 1: a chance to win a national championship. Correct, So what's
Speaker 1: going to happen here is you're going to have about
Speaker 1: forty schools maybe if you maybe thirty five, and they're
Speaker 1: going to be the top of the sports spectrum and
Speaker 1: everybody else after that. And it may not be every
Speaker 1: SEC school or every Big twelve school, it's going to
Speaker 1: be the Kreme de la creme. That's where all this
Speaker 1: is going.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: And if I'm saying here, you know what fool me wants,
Speaker 1: shame on me, fool me twice, shame on you, or
Speaker 1: vice versa. However, that coast, they had to know it
Speaker 1: was coming. You have to know what you deal. As
Speaker 1: they said at twelve o'clock today. You know what every
Speaker 1: single jilted wife, every single cheated on white thinks. It
Speaker 1: gets a little bit better with more counseling. It doesn't.
Speaker 1: You're gonna leave. You're gonna leave just the way it is.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, ken Brew, I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: it's Chris Mack.
Speaker 4: What do you think.
Speaker 1: I don't you know, I don't know what direction to go.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I would think if it's offered to
Speaker 1: Chris Mack, he would come back, but Mack left them.
Speaker 1: I mean, loyalty in this country is dead. It died
Speaker 1: a long time ago.
Speaker 8: Well, like you said, it's now, it's it's nil money
Speaker 8: leading the way now. It's not whether or not your
Speaker 8: coach has won two or three national championships or ha
Speaker 8: has had success like a Sean Miller during the season
Speaker 8: end in the postseason.
Speaker 1: Now, it's like how much how much do you have?
Speaker 1: Every single basketball only school is at a decided disadvantage
Speaker 1: now because, right, football drives the bus. Football drives the dollars,
Speaker 1: and if you don't have football, it's going to be
Speaker 1: very difficult to generate ANIL money. The last number I
Speaker 1: saw on Xavier's ANDIL money was from two years ago.
Speaker 1: It was one million dollars total. Two years ago at
Speaker 1: Texas same time, you know, it was fifteen and a
Speaker 1: half million dollars. And I'm sure, Baw do you compete. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure both of those numbers have come up since then, right,
Speaker 1: But it's if you're a basketball only school, generating ANIL
Speaker 1: money to compete with a large in state school is
Speaker 1: going to be very, very difficult. Ken bruthe is stood
Speaker 1: reporters a proud service.
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Speaker 8: five sparks ro there you go, Roxy, wake her up.
Speaker 8: So Sean Miller leaves for the second time in his career.
Speaker 8: He's going off to the Long Horns, replacing Rodney Terry.
Speaker 8: And uh, let's see, I guess uh the Channel five
Speaker 8: says there was an executive chartered jet that brought in
Speaker 8: Chris Mack late last night to the Cincinnati area.
Speaker 1: Well, they got to hire somebody because the transfer portal
Speaker 1: opened today, correct. I think if that well, obviously, if
Speaker 1: Chris Mack is off of the job, he's going to take.
Speaker 3: It, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, he gets his home right exactly right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you know he had a taste of the big
Speaker 1: time at Louisville, and you know, I think what he
Speaker 1: realized is what I realized when you when I went
Speaker 1: to Washington, d C. It's it's just the size of
Speaker 1: the pot in the poker game. It's still a poker game. Correct.
Speaker 1: But you know, like you know what's Saint John's did
Speaker 1: this year is going to be very difficult. You know,
Speaker 1: you gotta have football because that football drives the nil Bus.
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Speaker 1: Of course.
Speaker 8: The Kentucky Wildcats are into Sweet sixteen for the billionth
Speaker 8: time the Pope and uh, let's see, the Wildcats will
Speaker 8: face Tennessee, Tennessee at Lucas Oil Stadium Friday night, Indianapolis
Speaker 8: at seven forty.
Speaker 1: Going to be a barbecue special.
Speaker 8: I mean, you got Purdue playing it and against against
Speaker 8: in in Indianapolis, you got good.
Speaker 1: I bet you.
Speaker 8: There's people there already. Oh, they never went home, probably
Speaker 8: lined up. They haven't been home.
Speaker 1: Said.
Speaker 8: The Bearcats are getting ready to take on De Paul
Speaker 8: a week from tomorrow in college basketball Crown Tournament.
Speaker 1: How many players are going to be left to play?
Speaker 1: I don't know. The portal open today. They could lose
Speaker 1: three four players. Correct Red's update.
Speaker 8: Speaking of closing things out, the Reds that closed out
Speaker 8: spring training with a big win over those Guardians, uh
Speaker 8: to twelve seventeen and one who's healthy.
Speaker 1: They don't have steer, No.
Speaker 8: Alexis das is out with that hamstring inflammation whatever that means.
Speaker 1: I mean, they got a number of guys that may
Speaker 1: not answer the bell for them, right, so the other
Speaker 1: guy too. I mean you, here's what I think. Does
Speaker 1: anybody here what I think I think?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: Okay, here's what I think I think. If this team
Speaker 1: doesn't stay healthy, it's chances of being good are exponentially
Speaker 1: worse because they can't afford injury. Now, a steers an
Speaker 1: injury that you know is gonna be tough for them
Speaker 1: to navigate. Yep, A shoulder impingement. I hate those. I
Speaker 1: don't even know what it is. It's what a nerve.
Speaker 1: It's like a pinch nerve. Yeah, I have one of
Speaker 1: those in my neck cloth. I'm still suffering the consequences.
Speaker 8: Ouch, okay, in the consequence all right, and has saved
Speaker 8: me a call to Doc Hollywood. Let's see the Reds
Speaker 8: are in action tomorrow night in the gym city or
Speaker 8: they will play an exhibition game against the Dayton Dragons. Wow,
Speaker 8: that would be a big deal. I hope they'll be packed.
Speaker 8: It's sold out and ready to go. Six forty I
Speaker 8: think a game time or something six o'clock or something.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it won't be as cold tomorrow night as it
Speaker 1: was last night. That's actually a problem.
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Speaker 1: One month from today, ken Brew, they're going to start
Speaker 1: drinking if they don't get some guards.
Speaker 8: One month from today, the National Football League Draft takes place,
Speaker 8: is it cleef?
Speaker 1: Green Bay? I'm sorry Green Bay? Okay? And then Bengals
Speaker 1: picked seventeenth. Yeah, they have who draft picks? Well they
Speaker 1: take they have six draft picks. They need two guards.
Speaker 1: They need at least one more linebacker probably, and they
Speaker 1: need at least one more safety and probably two safeties.
Speaker 8: See the University of Illinois Lucas Byrd, a LaSalle graduate,
Speaker 8: won an NCAA wrestling championship over the weekend at one
Speaker 8: hundred and thirty three pound class.
Speaker 1: So congratulations that young man.
Speaker 8: And then the United States women's national soccer team coming
Speaker 8: back to the Queens City this summer.
Speaker 1: Ken Brew.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, they're going to face the Republic of Ireland
Speaker 8: at t QL Stadium on June twenty ninth.
Speaker 1: Oh, the Irish will be out in four.
Speaker 8: It's the third matchup played by the US women's national
Speaker 8: team at the stadium since it open in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: I'll want some World Cup tune ups Men's World Cup
Speaker 1: tune ups here.
Speaker 8: It's still unclear whether but where they'll be part of
Speaker 8: the match day roster. But of course Cincinnati natives Rose
Speaker 8: Level and Aubrey Kingsbury both have played on the national team.
Speaker 8: Of course level from Mount Notre Dame. Kingsbury is Saint
Speaker 8: Ursula Grad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what we were We were in
Speaker 1: the running for World Cup matches right right, the Men's
Speaker 1: World Cup matches. Correct. We didn't get any. No, and
Speaker 1: now we're being to all, well, maybe they'll use TQL
Speaker 1: as a training side or something. I want if we
Speaker 1: can't get a World Cup match. I guess there's some
Speaker 1: World Cup college. I don't know what it is. That
Speaker 1: there's something that's coming here, but it's not the World Cup. Correct.
Speaker 1: Why don't we get like some friendlies leading up to
Speaker 1: the World Cup, like the United States against England. Do
Speaker 1: you realize what that place would be like if the
Speaker 1: US plate or Argentina or Brazil. Oh, that place would
Speaker 1: be crazy.
Speaker 9: Oh.
Speaker 1: I want something like that. I'd have to double it.
Speaker 1: They'd have to double the attendance as a consolation prize.
Speaker 1: I want the US men's team leading up to the
Speaker 1: World Cup doing tune up matches against these teams, and
Speaker 1: then then when the Women's World Cup comes back to
Speaker 1: the United States. I want Women's World Cup matches here
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, you know, dang it. As as my uncle
Speaker 1: Fred used to say, dang it, we just ought to
Speaker 1: make it happen. And then he passed out. Well, well,
Speaker 1: hopefully they'll make it happen. There can brew. You never
Speaker 1: know if you listen. If you don't plan a seed,
Speaker 1: a flower won't grow. That's that's correct. What else you
Speaker 1: got said? That's about it. I went to the Cyclones
Speaker 1: game yesterday. Yeah, a big overtime win. Huh yeah, big
Speaker 1: overtime the k Wings nine thousand, six hundred plus, how
Speaker 1: about that?
Speaker 4: Very nice?
Speaker 1: Nine thousand were there to get Bluey's picture. But other
Speaker 1: than that, you was, no, it was some guy that
Speaker 1: it wasn't blue It was some guy a costume. No,
Speaker 1: I mean you should have you know, you and the wife.
Speaker 1: But there you're Gon put up on the mantle at home,
Speaker 1: right next to that picture with uh. What other photos
Speaker 1: you have? Well, some of the some of the rock
Speaker 1: stars that you've been hanging out with. Well I got
Speaker 1: some of those two. But yeah, you know, I had
Speaker 1: some grandson that wanted to go see Bluey okay, and
Speaker 1: he saw him. He said, I said, you want your
Speaker 1: picture taken with him? And he said no, I said,
Speaker 1: that's great. Plus, the line to get your picture taken
Speaker 1: with blue probably all down there against the wall, all
Speaker 1: the way around passed Bluey, and halfway back the other way.
Speaker 1: When I left that game after the after they want,
Speaker 1: they were still in line, still halfway around the area
Speaker 1: to get get their picture taken with some dude in
Speaker 1: the costume.
Speaker 3: So I saw.
Speaker 1: I tried to get what would prevent me or you
Speaker 1: or anybody from getting the costume of somebody that's really
Speaker 1: popular with the kids, and like going out in the
Speaker 1: middle of your street and charging like a dollars to
Speaker 1: get your your autograph from the costume.
Speaker 8: Get a van and you get a van. A couple
Speaker 8: of guys get a van and you in the back.
Speaker 8: And now all of a sudden there's blue walking down
Speaker 8: the middle of the street. People go crazy, But it's
Speaker 8: me in a costume. Now, now, this was free film
Speaker 8: like Santa Claus. This was free yesterday. You had to
Speaker 8: buy a ticket to the hockey game.
Speaker 1: It was free. That's good. But there was like one
Speaker 1: guy as Bluey, and that's all the kids were there
Speaker 1: to see. I'll figure this is great. I went and
Speaker 1: watched the hockey game. It was It was phenomenal. It
Speaker 1: was a two one win and overtime, Yeah, one and overtime.
Speaker 1: Mister Uh, let's see was u? His name is Uh?
Speaker 1: I don't know any of these people.
Speaker 8: Chazz Sharp, chas want a breakaway, mister sharp on a
Speaker 8: breakaway and overtime wins it.
Speaker 1: They haven't won a lot of games this year, but
Speaker 1: they haven't. That was good too. But I was just thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, you could, Who's to say who's somebody is?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Who's to say it's who's good? Who's mister Red Lakes,
Speaker 1: It's White's, who's Rosy? Red?
Speaker 3: Go?
Speaker 1: You know who's who's mister Red? Who's who they? Who's
Speaker 1: Gary the Lion of FC. I'm just saying you can
Speaker 1: get a costume and be anybody in this day. What
Speaker 1: about the blue Blob? I don't know what that is,
Speaker 1: but I don't think I you're putting that thing on. Anyways,
Speaker 1: Say get us out of the Stewge Report. You'll be
Speaker 1: back here in a few minutes and we can talk
Speaker 1: more about this nonsense.
Speaker 8: Ken Brew and honor of just a few days until
Speaker 8: it starts to count in Major League Baseball. With the
Speaker 8: Reds and the Giants on Thursday, we leave you with
Speaker 8: the immortal words of the stud report.
Speaker 9: Yeah, the whole town's batty about sitting Sonnati was a
Speaker 9: lot of tea, a lot of team.
Speaker 1: Who's singing this song?
Speaker 4: Thin?
Speaker 1: It's Gary Jason and the lady blah. I don't know
Speaker 1: who this is.
Speaker 9: How they scream, how they scream, how they scream singing?
Speaker 9: Keep bonn routing everry and they'll do that best to
Speaker 9: keep bon winny.
Speaker 1: This could be the legendary tell you all, I.
Speaker 9: Vincennati.
Speaker 1: Well, you know music, you ought to know this guy who?
Speaker 3: Yes, you know what?
Speaker 1: I think this song is like over one hundred years old.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, it's over. So were we we
Speaker 1: just you know what?
Speaker 8: I think it was yesterday or Saturday. We just had
Speaker 8: the station's birthday. What is it one hundred and three?
Speaker 8: Get yeah, one hundred and twenty three or something like that. Well,
Speaker 8: Larry Vincent might have sang that song on this radio station.
Speaker 8: How about that right before the Doris Show.
Speaker 4: You might have had that or the Twilight Zone.
Speaker 1: You never know, say you never know? That's true? Sega,
Speaker 1: I gotta go because I've got a I've got You're
Speaker 1: a you're a Navy seal. Sandwich. I had the guy
Speaker 1: that shot as sun.
Speaker 3: I know that.
Speaker 1: I'm honored to follow that guy. Well, now now I
Speaker 1: got another Navy seal and his wife coming up, because
Speaker 1: they can save your marriage. So I said, they can
Speaker 1: do everything. They can do everything. Yeah, absolutely. Seven hundred
Speaker 1: w WELW to eight is the current time in the
Speaker 1: Greater Cincinnati area two o eight and good afternoon. It's
Speaker 1: the average American and for the great American on this
Speaker 1: glorious Monday. Ah, we've seen the sun today, which leads
Speaker 1: to one to think maybe we'll see it on Thursday
Speaker 1: when we really need to see the sun. Hopefully it
Speaker 1: warms up. Hopefully we're not just being hold that to
Speaker 1: make us feel better until we get to Thursday. Because
Speaker 1: I've been down there with the flurries flying around my head.
Speaker 1: I don't want any part of that, not at all.
Speaker 1: Fifty percent of marriages into divorce. It's a fact. It's
Speaker 1: just not me making things up to tell you something
Speaker 1: that makes you feel bad. It is marriages in this
Speaker 1: day and age have a fifty to fifty shot of working. Infidelity,
Speaker 1: sexual or financial or whatever is a leading cause of
Speaker 1: why there are other stressors of course, in marriage, kids,
Speaker 1: raising kids, not agreeing on how to do that, maybe
Speaker 1: too much time outside the home, maybe one or the
Speaker 1: other spouse travels too much. There are a lot of
Speaker 1: things that can lead to divorce. But only about half
Speaker 1: the marriages in this country work anymore. Now, factor in
Speaker 1: the military and the number gets even higher, between sixty
Speaker 1: to seventy percent of military marriages and in divorce. And
Speaker 1: there's a lot of reasons for it, the same reasons
Speaker 1: why it would exist in a non military family, but
Speaker 1: certainly there are other things as well. Separation from spouse.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're off on a thirteen month mission, maybe you're
Speaker 1: station somewhere that's far away from where your wife is living.
Speaker 1: All kinds of things can can bring stressors into a
Speaker 1: military marriage. Now, factor in combat, and factor in the
Speaker 1: stress of knowing that, regardless of what the mission is
Speaker 1: or where you're staying, there is the threat every single
Speaker 1: day that you may not come home or you may
Speaker 1: not be around for the rest of that marriage, for
Speaker 1: the rest of that spouse's life. And that leads me
Speaker 1: to my next guest, actually two guests I have had
Speaker 1: Jay Redmond Jason Redmond on my show many times. He
Speaker 1: is a decorated Navy seal, and together he and his
Speaker 1: wife have written a book. Now to understand Jay Redmond,
Speaker 1: you have to understand this, go back seventeen years. It's
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven. He's on patrol when his particular
Speaker 1: patrol was ambushed by a machine gunter's nest in Iraq.
Speaker 1: A lot of the people that were on patrol with
Speaker 1: him were killed. He was not, but he was shot
Speaker 1: several times, including through the face, requiring thirty seven thirty
Speaker 1: seven surgeries, twelve hundred stitches, and grueling years of rehab,
Speaker 1: all while his wife, Erica, was living at home and
Speaker 1: raising their three children. Yet their marriage survived. He came home,
Speaker 1: it was work, but their marriage survived. And Eric and
Speaker 1: Jason began thinking, well, wait a minute, why did it
Speaker 1: work under the most extreme circumstances for us, when just
Speaker 1: everyday people can't make a marriage work. When we had
Speaker 1: all of this going on, we made it work. Maybe
Speaker 1: what happened to us, maybe how we worked our way
Speaker 1: through it might be able to help someone else out.
Speaker 1: And so they've written a book. It's called marriage, it's
Speaker 1: called I'm Sorry, it's called Mission Invincible. Marriage, a battle
Speaker 1: tested Guide to an Enduring Relationship. It has just come out,
Speaker 1: and Jason and Erica are out on the Left Coast
Speaker 1: today and we have managed to track them down to
Speaker 1: talk about not only this book, but also how they
Speaker 1: kept things together what it looked like Jason was not
Speaker 1: going to be around much longer. So let's welcome him in.
Speaker 1: Jason and Erica, Welcome to the seven hundred w welw.
Speaker 1: How are you on this glorious Monday.
Speaker 10: Good morning, Thanks for having us.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're been doing great. I'm glad you're both here.
Speaker 1: I really am, because I think this is as much
Speaker 1: about Jason and what he went through and Erica and
Speaker 1: what you went through. Just give us a little background
Speaker 1: on your relationship. Where did you meet, how did you meet,
Speaker 1: and how long did you know each other before you
Speaker 1: actually got married. Erica, I'll let you handle it.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 11: We were I'm originally from Louisville, Kentucky and not far
Speaker 11: from you guys right now, and he was actually training
Speaker 11: out at Fort Knox and we met.
Speaker 10: We had the long.
Speaker 11: Distance relationship for about a year and a half two
Speaker 11: years before I moved to Virginia Beach and we got married.
Speaker 1: Well, that's cool and and and uh, Jason, was it
Speaker 1: love at first sight?
Speaker 10: It was love at first sight, although in typical mail
Speaker 10: fast and I messed it up at some point. I
Speaker 10: tell some of those stories in the book. I got
Speaker 10: I got cold bed, I got commitment issues, and I
Speaker 10: broke up with Erica and and she made me work
Speaker 10: very hard to win her back, which actually I think
Speaker 10: made our marriage stronger. And uh, and then the other
Speaker 10: component of that was I told Erica, this is very
Speaker 10: difficult job to be married into, being in the military
Speaker 10: of special and special operations. But because of that, except
Speaker 10: this strong foundation for the future. We were very intentional
Speaker 10: and deliberate about how we were going to approach our
Speaker 10: marriage and we just continue to build on that through
Speaker 10: you know, now we've been together twenty six years, married
Speaker 10: twenty four and we wanted to share that with other people.
Speaker 1: So you were in training to become a Navy seal,
Speaker 1: which is intense training. These are these are the elite
Speaker 1: of our enforces. There's no question about that. You're in
Speaker 1: training for this. How long were you stateside before you
Speaker 1: had to ship off to Iraq? Did you have time
Speaker 1: to get to know each other, establish the marriage and
Speaker 1: what not Erica.
Speaker 11: We did, so he was actually already a seal at
Speaker 11: that point, but he was working in a training working
Speaker 11: in a workup, and we were very fortunate that when
Speaker 11: we got married, he actually was home doing training and
Speaker 11: actually went to school. So it really did give us
Speaker 11: a couple of years to really have that good foundation
Speaker 11: before he went to both Iraq and Afghanistan. And while
Speaker 11: we did write this book, you know, with with the military,
Speaker 11: with our protector community, fire fire law enforcement in mind,
Speaker 11: I still think that there is so there's practical applications
Speaker 11: and tips that really can be you know, I'm hoping
Speaker 11: that people are.
Speaker 3: Inspired by our story saying.
Speaker 11: If they could do this, then we can apply these
Speaker 11: things to our relationships, and this really can go beyond
Speaker 11: just just our special community.
Speaker 1: Sure, because when a spouse is a firefighter, and when
Speaker 1: a spouse is a police officer, when they say goodbye
Speaker 1: to their husband or their wife when they leave to
Speaker 1: go and do their job each day, there's no guarantee
Speaker 1: they're coming home. It's it's it could spin on a
Speaker 1: dime in most of those professions, just as it did
Speaker 1: with with with Jason, and it's countless others that served
Speaker 1: in uniform across halfway across the world. So really and truly,
Speaker 1: if you're the spouse of a first responder, if you're
Speaker 1: a spouse of a military person, we know the divorce
Speaker 1: rate is high in both instances. This might be a
Speaker 1: great blueprint to keep these not only these marriages together,
Speaker 1: but keep these friendships together. And Jason, I think anybody
Speaker 1: that's deployed halfway around the world and you've got somebody
Speaker 1: at home waiting for you, the one thing you want
Speaker 1: to do is make sure that those people that are
Speaker 1: left behind are taken care of and have as much
Speaker 1: piece of mind, peace of mind as possible.
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 10: And a lot of that, you know, a lot of
Speaker 10: that is how do you run your marriage in the beginning,
Speaker 10: I mean marriage is marriage is hard. You're taking two
Speaker 10: different people and you're putting them together. And we talk
Speaker 10: about in the book you've got to learn to make
Speaker 10: it it's we not me, uh, And the foundation of
Speaker 10: that is a lot of communication. One of the biggest
Speaker 10: things that Eric and I talk about in the book is, hey,
Speaker 10: we at our combined dreams. That was a really critical
Speaker 10: thing there was we looked in the future. I knew
Speaker 10: that someday in the military would end and what did
Speaker 10: that look like. And I told they were coming to
Speaker 10: be twenty years in the seal teams and then after
Speaker 10: that we can decide where we go from there. But
Speaker 10: she also had her dreams. She was an entrepreneur. She
Speaker 10: was big into building a business and things along those line,
Speaker 10: along with running, you know, raising our kids. So there
Speaker 10: was a lot of communication always happened, and that flows
Speaker 10: throughout the entire book. And I think that's the foundation
Speaker 10: to help, especially if you're in a high risk, high
Speaker 10: stress job, to reduce that risk and have that shared
Speaker 10: those shared goals.
Speaker 1: You have three children in twenty oh seven, and Jason,
Speaker 1: you been on before with me, So just to refresh people,
Speaker 1: your patrol was ambushed by a machine gunner's nest in Iraq.
Speaker 1: You went through almost forty surgeries, countless other years of rehab.
Speaker 1: This is all transpiring in twenty oh seven, Erica. On
Speaker 1: the day that happened, you had absolutely no idea that
Speaker 1: that had happened to Jason, just tell me a little
Speaker 1: bit about handling that news, getting that news and how
Speaker 1: it not only tested you as a person, but also
Speaker 1: how that was a severe test of your marriage. Just
Speaker 1: tell me about all of that and how you handled that.
Speaker 10: Absolutely.
Speaker 11: So at the time, our kids were worth three, five
Speaker 11: and second grade, so they were they were all pretty young. Funny,
Speaker 11: we figured out that I was actually at his command
Speaker 11: when the firefight was happening, and I was at his
Speaker 11: command getting the redeployed, like them coming home briefing.
Speaker 10: So funny.
Speaker 11: They were like giving us, hey, either thing to look
Speaker 11: for stressors or different things you know, that we may encounter.
Speaker 11: And I was there just thinking, oh, you know, we're great,
Speaker 11: like we're going to adjust a fine. I was there
Speaker 11: for social hour and really just wanted to you know,
Speaker 11: the dates and the details of him coming home. So
Speaker 11: little did I know that that firefight was actually happening
Speaker 11: right at that time.
Speaker 1: And you know, I got that phone call.
Speaker 11: The next the next morning, so I was in scrambling saying,
Speaker 11: oh my goodness, what were those resources? What were all
Speaker 11: those things that they were you know that they were
Speaker 11: sharing with us the night before. But I really feel
Speaker 11: like we had had a chance to build that good foundation.
Speaker 11: We had good communication, we had trust, and you know,
Speaker 11: I think all of that was I think when adversity
Speaker 11: hit you, and in our case, it was battlefield injuries,
Speaker 11: but in so many other cases, it could be injury,
Speaker 11: it could be illness, it could be cancer. I just
Speaker 11: it's so important to have that strong foundation. And we
Speaker 11: were fortunate when adversity hit us, it actually made us,
Speaker 11: made us stronger and made us, you know, come out
Speaker 11: on the other side, you know, stronger. But if that
Speaker 11: foundation hadn't been there, it absolutely could have worked in
Speaker 11: the other way.
Speaker 1: Jason's a retired Navy lieutenant, eleven years as an enlisted
Speaker 1: Navy seal, ten years as a seal officer, awarded the
Speaker 1: Bronze Star and with Valor and the Purple Heart. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we go through in our daily lives trying to
Speaker 1: keep everything together, trying to keep finances together, trying to
Speaker 1: keep the family together, trying to keep our marriage together.
Speaker 1: And you've got some things in this book that really
Speaker 1: highlight how it's worked for you through so many different
Speaker 1: and trying times. As I look at it, the number
Speaker 1: one thing that seems to be a theme through the
Speaker 1: book is communication. That you have to talk to each other,
Speaker 1: that you have to know each other, that you have
Speaker 1: to know when someone is saying, when your spouse or
Speaker 1: your partner is saying something, what it means, and whether
Speaker 1: or not you need to jump in with advice or
Speaker 1: back off and just listen. But I think it all starts.
Speaker 1: It seems like with these marriages that succeed, it's with communication.
Speaker 1: Am I right about that?
Speaker 3: Jason Tenure spot on.
Speaker 10: I often talk about in special operations. Once, when I
Speaker 10: was in training, our commanding officer wanted us to design
Speaker 10: a new risk assessment tool. We had some complicated tools,
Speaker 10: and we designed this new tool that can be used
Speaker 10: very quickly. It's used across the seal teams.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 10: The number one thing, the top thing.
Speaker 3: Communication.
Speaker 10: It is what will make or break any mission and
Speaker 10: special operations. Our ability to communicate across the battle space
Speaker 10: and chaotic environments. Marriage is no different. Relationships are no different.
Speaker 10: You know, we're constantly dealing with all kinds of things.
Speaker 10: Can you nail their finances and jobs and life and kids?
Speaker 10: And you know where are we going on vacation? And
Speaker 10: we got holidays coming up? And you know, are we
Speaker 10: going to go out tonight or not? I mean, from
Speaker 10: the little things to the big things, communication is critical
Speaker 10: and we talk about that in the book. How for
Speaker 10: the most important thing is to start off making sure
Speaker 10: you're aligned on the big you know your values, where
Speaker 10: you're going. If you haven't done that in the beginning
Speaker 10: of your marriage, that starts to create some big challenges
Speaker 10: later down the road. If you get a few years
Speaker 10: down and you're like, wait, what do you mean every
Speaker 10: Christmas you want to be at your parents' house? Like, no,
Speaker 10: I don't do that. So that suddenly becomes these conflict points.
Speaker 10: Understanding that, working on that, and understanding that also it
Speaker 10: changes over time. We lay the books out in three sections. Mission,
Speaker 10: how do we establish that this is our mission? You know,
Speaker 10: our marriage, us together, you know, what is the foundation
Speaker 10: our unit, integrity, the culture of our mission if you
Speaker 10: will or are of our marriage. Number two is training.
Speaker 10: No different in the Seal Teams, we constantly trained and involved.
Speaker 10: You got to train in your marriage. What does that mean? Well,
Speaker 10: you're constantly going out, you're talking, You're making sure your
Speaker 10: goals and hopes and dreams and what you're working on finances,
Speaker 10: all that's aligned. And then number three is under conflict.
Speaker 10: You know, and the Seal Teams we train for those
Speaker 10: you know, God forbid moments that we get into the
Speaker 10: big firefights and when things go wrong, well, guess what
Speaker 10: happened to marriages too. So you have to train for
Speaker 10: those things, and you have to be ready for those things.
Speaker 3: And we lay all that out everybody.
Speaker 1: That I've told, by the way, were chatting with Jason
Speaker 1: and eric Are Redmond. Their book is just out Mission
Speaker 1: Invincible Marriage and how their marriage worked under perhaps the
Speaker 1: most stressful times you can ever imagine. Every time I
Speaker 1: talk to an author who does a book about his
Speaker 1: or herself, or they do something that happened in his
Speaker 1: or her life, they find out things along the way
Speaker 1: about themselves that they didn't know or didn't realize that
Speaker 1: were there maybe all along with they didn't they didn't
Speaker 1: realize it. So I'm wondering, Erica, did you discover anything
Speaker 1: about yourself or your marriage in writing this book Mission
Speaker 1: in Invincible Marriage?
Speaker 11: I mean absolutely, I mean I feel like we learned
Speaker 11: that the foundation we built really made us both readili
Speaker 11: and so whether it's you know, and I'd love to
Speaker 11: say that that his battlefield injuries was the worst thing
Speaker 11: that we had encountered, But a few years ago Jay
Speaker 11: was struggling with an illness that they couldn't figure out that.
Speaker 3: Was extremely difficult.
Speaker 11: We now are running multiple businesses together.
Speaker 3: That is extremely difficult.
Speaker 1: But I think that what we've learned is that.
Speaker 11: That foundation of trust and communication really made us a
Speaker 11: unit that that we we can be resilient and we
Speaker 11: really can conquer you know, any any adversity that comes
Speaker 11: our way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, what businesses are you running? Because
Speaker 1: I know that you were an entrepreneur?
Speaker 3: Was what what? What?
Speaker 1: What are you guys doing?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 11: We we not only Jay speaking across the country, but
Speaker 11: we also represent other additional inspirational speakers under Eagle Right
Speaker 11: Speakers Network.
Speaker 3: We recently launched.
Speaker 11: A office coworking being an event center here in our
Speaker 11: hometown of Chesapeake, Virginia, and Jay has several other He's
Speaker 11: working on a technology company that Look that can help veterans,
Speaker 11: and also involved in the whiskey seltzer business. So we've
Speaker 11: we've got a little bit of everything going on.
Speaker 1: That's some diverse that's some diverse interest. Look good luck
Speaker 1: with Look good luck with The book. It is just
Speaker 1: down on the last couple of days again. It's Mission
Speaker 1: Invincible Marriage, a battle tested guide to an enduring relationship.
Speaker 1: It is written by former Navy seal Jason Redmond, his
Speaker 1: wife Erica and it is a real insight into what
Speaker 1: happened with them and how it can help you and
Speaker 1: hopefully keeping your marriage together. Yeah, you're in Chesapeake, Virginia.
Speaker 1: But but Jays Jason Ohio, guy, right, you got to
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about the buck guys last year, right.
Speaker 10: Jason, Hey, man, we brought home the Mattie's so big
Speaker 10: shout out. I was super stoked about that. And hey, Bengals,
Speaker 10: you need me, you need to bring me back. I
Speaker 10: spoke for you guys in twenty ten.
Speaker 3: We were doing good. Everything looks good.
Speaker 10: Bring me back. We need a super Bowl for the Bengals,
Speaker 10: Joe Barrow called me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you could do that, man, you'll be a
Speaker 1: bestseller of the rest of your life. Both of you.
Speaker 1: Take care of good luck, good health, and thanks for
Speaker 1: sharing your story with us. We really appreciate it. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: you bet, you bet again. The book is Mission Invincible Marriage,
Speaker 1: The battle Tested Guide to an Enduring Relationship, and it
Speaker 1: is just out this week. It is coming up on
Speaker 1: two twenty six News Radio seven hundred WOLW.
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Speaker 1: involved in that tournament. Of course, the portal opened today.
Speaker 1: Will wait and see, we'll see Red's update.
Speaker 8: Of course, the Reds closed things out yesterday with a
Speaker 8: thirteen to two romp over the Guardians out west.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: The boys are back in town.
Speaker 8: They'll take on the Dragons, the Dayton Dragons in the
Speaker 8: Gym City tomorrow night. No, No, Tyler Stevens, He's gonna
Speaker 8: h Spencer Steeer is going to start the season on
Speaker 8: the I L along with the closer, Alexis Diaz.
Speaker 1: Tyler Stevenson. I don't think Alexis Diaz was in any
Speaker 1: danger of getting the closers role. No, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean we'll have to do the spring he had.
Speaker 1: I don't sure he heck, he was never hardly out
Speaker 1: there was he?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: No, but what he was it wasn't exactly whining. Correct.
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Speaker 8: one month ken Brew until the National Football League Draft.
Speaker 1: Man, I'll tell you what, I can't wait to get
Speaker 1: into the analysis of fifth round draft picks. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm living for. Bengals pick US seventeenth. Overall that day,
Speaker 1: seg when you want to get down and party, what
Speaker 1: spirits and liquor do you use?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 1: Probably Coca Cola and doctor pepper, Is that right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You don't drink no ever, No, not even maybe just
Speaker 1: on New Year's Eve. H No, I'm usually in bed.
Speaker 1: Not not even when you and Denise are celebrating an anniversary.
Speaker 1: Probably not.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: Oh, I was a little hesitation there. No, okay, so
Speaker 1: you're a teetotler. Yeah, okay, Well that's all right. That's fine.
Speaker 8: If I if they give me something that, you know,
Speaker 8: like Budweiser shirt or something, I'll wear it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Drugs, they got a they got a because of racing
Speaker 1: drunk SEG is probably not as good as a sober
Speaker 1: sig that I haven't tested it, but I'm sure it's
Speaker 1: probably the truth. Well that's what I'm That's what I'm
Speaker 1: about to go with right now.
Speaker 8: Soccer United States women's national team returning to the Queens
Speaker 8: City this summer, fresh off of winning that Olympic gold
Speaker 8: medal in Paris, The team will play a friendly match
Speaker 8: against the Republic of Ireland at TQL Stadium on June
Speaker 8: twenty ninth.
Speaker 1: We'll be the judge of that. Wait a minute, ken Brew,
Speaker 1: we have a special guest on his own show, seg Man.
Speaker 1: How are you? What are you doing here?
Speaker 12: I thought you had surgery or something. My first wife
Speaker 12: had surgery. It went well, and I'm here now.
Speaker 1: First wife, Yeah, what I.
Speaker 12: Tell her Every fifty years, I'll pick up another option.
Speaker 12: But I'm back, loud, proud and sassy with a bad
Speaker 12: attitude because of Sean Millers. Got me all that guy
Speaker 12: prostated himself like a seminary in at the cathedral in
Speaker 12: order to become the coach of Xavier. And the first
Speaker 12: chance he gets, boom, he's gone. It's got me all
Speaker 12: fired up. I don't feel good right now. My first
Speaker 12: wife's doing well. I got her home, got her position.
Speaker 12: I said, I'm going in talk to seg Man and
Speaker 12: the voice of the average man.
Speaker 1: I got a roast in the oven. I can leave
Speaker 1: now and you can sweep up till three o'clock.
Speaker 8: I don't know, ken Brew, he might as well. He
Speaker 8: might as well be a guest on his own show.
Speaker 1: That's a first.
Speaker 8: Well, good for you, so you picked up your wife's option.
Speaker 8: He picked up your wife's what what do you do now?
Speaker 8: A little surgery? Oh okay, Penny had the first lady had.
Speaker 1: A little searcher. Okay, okay, okay. And now she's doing well.
Speaker 1: And I said, I got to come in. I missed this.
Speaker 12: So head man onsence this morning at one o'clock in
Speaker 12: the morning, she's asking for she said, put me out.
Speaker 12: She will up and saw my fish. She said, what pills?
Speaker 3: What doc?
Speaker 1: Where are those pills? Give me some perkoset, take a
Speaker 1: couple of extra.
Speaker 12: But Ken, what do you think about Sean Miller like
Speaker 12: a seminarian prostating himself and saying, take me. I'm in trouble. Hey,
Speaker 12: three to four million dollars. First chance he gets, he's
Speaker 12: out of here. What do you think about that?
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you this, Xavier took him back
Speaker 1: cheated on spouses. Always think it will be better with
Speaker 1: a little counselor amen. I'll tell you this, Willie. That
Speaker 1: sounds like a local weather lady. But that's a different story.
Speaker 1: I will say this, and I've said it before, I'll
Speaker 1: say it again. Ding Dong. You will always care more
Speaker 1: about teams and players than they will ever care about you. Amen.
Speaker 1: Teams and players might be your passion, but to them
Speaker 1: it's only a job.
Speaker 12: Coding my according to my sources, in Austin six years,
Speaker 12: eight million dollars a year. Now, would you go work
Speaker 12: somewhere for like fifty million dollars? Wouldn't you be loyal
Speaker 12: to the school that got you out of the garbage
Speaker 12: dump and put you in the big chair and then
Speaker 12: that someoneould come?
Speaker 1: Wouldn't hell, No, I wouldn't go ken. Wouldn't you stay
Speaker 1: right here? Absolutely? I'd stay here fi ten million. I've
Speaker 1: chased money before. At the end of the rainbow, it's
Speaker 1: just money, that's right.
Speaker 12: Speaking Chase, if you've seen the vis of Jamar Chase
Speaker 12: and the great Number one in Miami and they're quarter
Speaker 12: million dollar Lamborghini's racing through the streets of Miami one
Speaker 12: and five, I think they were.
Speaker 8: I think they went to the NASCAR race down Off yesterday. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I think they think they finished fourth and fifth. The
Speaker 8: Bengals can't be happy money, time and.
Speaker 1: Money is always a bad combination. Will he time and money?
Speaker 1: They're young?
Speaker 12: They got between the three of them they have they
Speaker 12: have a half a billion dollars between the three of them.
Speaker 1: Look now that we're here, and this is kind of like, uh, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I want to exactly every time you go to Florida,
Speaker 1: how much money do you come back with from the
Speaker 1: octagenarians you beat out of their retirement funds down there.
Speaker 12: The Great Bartosic and the Flying Tune as we play
Speaker 12: a dollar point game and five five ten, I've come
Speaker 12: back with an extra thirty six dollars and I feel
Speaker 12: like I feel like a big money, big money. They're
Speaker 12: changing the subjects by Sean milly Ga tour and segment
Speaker 12: told me there's a chance that Mick Crow and make
Speaker 12: coda zab no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: You know what well Tate Baker did both years ago. Well,
Speaker 1: there'd be there would be a seismic hole on Victory
Speaker 1: Parkway that would prevent any Xavier fan from going there
Speaker 1: if shows up at But I got a source telling
Speaker 1: me it's not Chris Mack. What the can't say, can't say.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's Pat Kelsey. Could be Pete Gillen,
Speaker 1: Pete Gillen, Bob Stack, bad Mada. Bring him he's a butler,
Speaker 1: so bring him back. That's what Well, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that'd be funny. Peterel has a coach in fifteen years,
Speaker 1: what neither Sean Miller? They keep losing. Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I heard you say on this show that you allegedly host.
Speaker 1: By the way, thank you for filling in for me.
Speaker 1: Uh the uh that you think that Sean Miller's teams
Speaker 1: get better as the season goes on, And they do.
Speaker 1: Did I say that? You said that, so we must
Speaker 1: be a good coach. Oh, how'd they do in the
Speaker 1: last game? They played well, not good, They didn't do
Speaker 1: good in that game, but I mean they did get
Speaker 1: better as the season went on. The guy can coach.
Speaker 1: His loyalty is a you know, an issue, but they
Speaker 1: can coach.
Speaker 12: And the Illinois game, they were one hundred percent from
Speaker 12: the free throw line, Yeah, fifty percent from the field.
Speaker 12: They had one of their guards was eight for eight
Speaker 12: from threes, and they had forty rebounds.
Speaker 1: Now, how do you beat that team? ILLINOI then coughed
Speaker 1: it up against Kentucky. Yeah. Well, I mean the guy
Speaker 1: that gave you twenty two against Texas gave you I
Speaker 1: think two in that game against Illinois. And Zach Fremantle
Speaker 1: was a blank against Illinois. That's why that was well.
Speaker 12: I just I just have hope that maybe Sean Miller
Speaker 12: will reconsider before it's too late.
Speaker 1: Come home, honey, all is forgiven. It'll be much better
Speaker 1: with counseling. Come home.
Speaker 12: I had a choice of spending time on my first
Speaker 12: wife today or with you two, and I chose my
Speaker 12: first wife. But now she's home, resting from christ Hospital.
Speaker 12: She's doing well. Well, he just do a little cameo
Speaker 12: appearance here. I want to come in cameo commercials to do.
Speaker 12: I got ten thousand commercials.
Speaker 1: God never led a good illness to a loved one
Speaker 1: standing the way of making money. I know that's you're bought.
Speaker 1: A man's gotta be with his woman in need. I gotta,
Speaker 1: I gotta go because I gotta get Rocky in here,
Speaker 1: because I've got a couple of questions for him. Good.
Speaker 12: I'm glad segment. Please get us into then out of
Speaker 12: the Stude's Report.
Speaker 8: Will you and honor of yourself making a cameo surprise
Speaker 8: appearance this afternoon, Yes, thank you, ken Brew, You're welcome.
Speaker 1: We leave you. We leave you for the immortal words
Speaker 1: of the Stooge Report. A seven hundred WLW the climactic
Speaker 1: moment of the broadcast day is about to occur. Standing
Speaker 1: By to join me is a man whose loyalty is unbounded.
Speaker 1: Standing by to join me is a man whose money
Speaker 1: far out weighs his security. Standing by is a man
Speaker 1: who has never been bought. And so, except, of course,
Speaker 1: an NFL free agency, Let's bring in Rocket j Boyman, Rocky,
Speaker 1: how are you on this glorious Monday. I'm doing good.
Speaker 3: Ken.
Speaker 1: Is this a shot at at Sean Miller in his exodus? Yes,
Speaker 1: you said he never leave, and he left. You said
Speaker 1: on this radio station, he will never leave, and yet
Speaker 1: he leaves.
Speaker 4: It's funny.
Speaker 13: I mean there's countless soundbites of coaches talking about loyalty
Speaker 13: and playing for the you know, the the school and
Speaker 13: the alma mater and the all the players that came
Speaker 13: before them, and they're usually the first ones that are
Speaker 13: on the first ticket out.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if it's a I don't think
Speaker 1: it's Sean Miller.
Speaker 13: I think it's a product of the system, and I
Speaker 13: think it's unfortunate, but it's the way it is.
Speaker 1: You know what happened, You know what Sean said, and
Speaker 1: he left. Well, show me the money and show his
Speaker 1: players the money.
Speaker 13: I think that's even more so the fact is that
Speaker 13: they have what ten to fifteen times more NIL money
Speaker 13: than Xavier does.
Speaker 1: The last number we got out of Xavier on their
Speaker 1: NIL was two years ago and it was one million
Speaker 1: dollars total in Texas two years it was fifteen and
Speaker 1: a half million, and I'm sure that number has only
Speaker 1: gone up. I contend that it will be very difficult
Speaker 1: for a non football school to ever ever compete with
Speaker 1: large state schools when it comes to great talent football.
Speaker 1: Certainly football, they don't have football teams, but basketball football
Speaker 1: drives everything. Football drives allegiant football drives NIL, buys players, players,
Speaker 1: wins championships. And all of these basketball only schools are
Speaker 1: these mid these mid conference teams and pick a conference,
Speaker 1: any conference, big twelve sec acc they're going to They're
Speaker 1: never going to be able to compete. That's the way
Speaker 1: it's going in college athletics, and it's rockets never gone back.
Speaker 13: You're right, it's not going back because now the power schools,
Speaker 13: especially the top power schools, know that they have the
Speaker 13: abundance of money and they're not going to let that
Speaker 13: chip go because they know if they recruit and they
Speaker 13: have a couple of needs at a couple of positions,
Speaker 13: they can go out and pay top dollar for that.
Speaker 13: You know, that great player that's at a group of
Speaker 13: five conference. I mean, look at the MAC and football.
Speaker 13: I mean, they could never recruit four and five star
Speaker 13: players at an abundance, so they had to recruit a
Speaker 13: three star player and develop. And well, now that three
Speaker 13: star player gets developed for two years, lots of blood,
Speaker 13: sweat and tears go into that, and then they transferre
Speaker 13: to a to a power for conference.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it happened to Ohio University last year with
Speaker 1: their quarterback, right that work? Yeah, yeah, and he winds
Speaker 1: up going to Indiana. Well, you know, fact of the
Speaker 1: matter is coaches have had free reign to do whatever
Speaker 1: the hell they wanted career wise forever. Now players have it.
Speaker 1: So my sneaking suspicion is when this is all said
Speaker 1: and done, that schools will wind up paying players more
Speaker 1: than they'll pay coaches, always getting six sixty million dollars
Speaker 1: for ten years whatever. I kind of think those days
Speaker 1: are over. I think the money is going to go
Speaker 1: to players, it's not going to go to coaches.
Speaker 13: I agree, and you know, all it takes is a
Speaker 13: rich donor or ten rich donors that want to say, look,
Speaker 13: we don't we don't care. We just want the best players.
Speaker 13: Every coach I talked to these days says, the players
Speaker 13: don't care about the facilities or the new weight rooms
Speaker 13: and all that.
Speaker 1: It's it's what's the number. That's that's how it's going
Speaker 1: to be. What's on the show today, rock What do you?
Speaker 1: What are you working on? What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Why should I stay and raptured for the next three Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, Eddie is out, but uh again, Yeah
Speaker 1: I think he still works here. I'm not sure. But
Speaker 1: Mike Petralia, how about that? Trags is going to join
Speaker 1: me three to six.
Speaker 13: We're gonna open up the show talking to Little Xavier
Speaker 13: and Sean Miller and n Io and Portal and that
Speaker 13: whole thing.
Speaker 1: And it'll be fantastic because the worst thing that can
Speaker 1: happen in broadcasting is for Rocky Boyman to be left
Speaker 1: alone in a studio. Damn right, damn right, have a
Speaker 1: good show as seven hundred w welw