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<v Speaker 1>All right, it's Monday in the Tri State. All hell

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<v Speaker 1>is breaking loose. The average American is in for the

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<v Speaker 1>great American who is still in parts unknown. Let's look

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<v Speaker 1>at what's transpiring. First, we got opening day on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've got a lot of Reds players already on

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<v Speaker 1>the injured list. I don't know how that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>play out as this season begins in earnest on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, of course we have what has transpired over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend. Xavier apparently now looking for a new basketball

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<v Speaker 1>coach again because Sean Miller apparently is leaving Xavier again.

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<v Speaker 1>And at Washington's ec the hilarity never ends. It really doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's in the courts try to get his deportations reinvigorated,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that a judge out there decided last week,

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<v Speaker 1>now you did this thing too fast. Now told you

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<v Speaker 1>to turn the plane around, even though the judge didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even know how much fuel was left in the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>Could have ordered that thing turned around and they might

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<v Speaker 1>not have had enough gasoline to make it back to mainland. Nevertheless,

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<v Speaker 1>that judge now is given away to a three judge

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<v Speaker 1>appeals panel that will ultimately decide something I think that

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<v Speaker 1>winds up with the Supreme Court. I think it winds

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<v Speaker 1>up with the Supreme Court. Meanwhile, the Dems are in disarray.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Basheer is vetoing bills left and right down in

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<v Speaker 1>the Commonwealth of Kentucky, and tariffs are on the horizon,

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<v Speaker 1>which may affect you, me and everybody else that's walking around.

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<v Speaker 1>So when all hell breaks out, we want to bring

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<v Speaker 1>somebody in that knows how to pick up the pieces

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<v Speaker 1>and put them all together again. One of the finest

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<v Speaker 1>political minds of our times, someone who was out in

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<v Speaker 1>the Great Plains, someone who sees both the Left Coast

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<v Speaker 1>and the East Coast and what happens here in the

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<v Speaker 1>heartland of America, right out there in the wheat fields

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<v Speaker 1>of Kansas. He's our good buddy, Dan Snell, And Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you on this glorious Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, fantastic ken brew to be with you. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>listening your introduction is better than Tony Robbins or zig

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<v Speaker 2>Ziggler or everybody combined.

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<v Speaker 3>So thank you for those kind words.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I want to get everything to that I

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<v Speaker 1>just laid out. I want to get to that with you.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have a pressing question that I need to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you that has been bothering me since late last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you watch the Colorado State Maryland game last night?

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<v Speaker 2>I did not watch it, but you gotta love that

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<v Speaker 2>America loves the Cinderella story. I did not watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>Though, three point six seconds to go, Colorado State has

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<v Speaker 1>just taken the lead by one. Here comes Maryland after

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<v Speaker 1>a time out. The ball is in Derek Queen's hands.

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<v Speaker 1>He drives to the bucket, lays it up, and in

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<v Speaker 1>Maryland wins. I don't know how anybody could have seen

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<v Speaker 1>that video and not known that Derek Queen took three steps.

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<v Speaker 1>He took three steps, don How is that not traveling?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that not? I mean, we now, why don't we

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<v Speaker 1>just have people just walk from half court to the basket?

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<v Speaker 1>How is that not traveling?

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<v Speaker 2>I know you have always loved and called for more

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<v Speaker 2>traveling calls in the basketball court. Well, you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have to go back upon further review and check that out,

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<v Speaker 2>and let you know. I can't believe I didn't see

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<v Speaker 2>that or hear about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan is one of the finest basketball officials in America,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just telling you, if that wasn't traveling last night,

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<v Speaker 1>then I have no idea what traveling is. But nevertheless,

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<v Speaker 1>the mainstream media is not talking about it. Social media

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<v Speaker 1>is just a blaze with this topic. I'm sure there's

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<v Speaker 1>some explanation, but as someone who has studied the game

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<v Speaker 1>of basketball attempted to play it, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't traveling. But nevertheless, it stands in Maryland is

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<v Speaker 1>moving on?

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<v Speaker 4>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get to this. Trump's in the courts.

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<v Speaker 1>He's trying to get his deportation thing out of the courts.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants trend to dale rogwip culprits out of this country.

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<v Speaker 1>I think most people do, most sound people think that

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<v Speaker 1>these are not good people. Anybody that's committed a crime,

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<v Speaker 1>either in this country or abroad and is here in

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<v Speaker 1>this country illegally has to go. But I think Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is missing a chance here. I think his administration's missing

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<v Speaker 1>a chance here.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>If you'll recall Post nine to eleven, the Supremes ruled

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<v Speaker 1>and they said terrorists, regardless of where they are and

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<v Speaker 1>what they've done, they are subject to the American court system.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Supremes have already ruled on this. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think Trump wins this thing. In court. Why would he

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<v Speaker 1>not go to the legislative route. He's got the House,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got the Senate. You could pass a bill that

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<v Speaker 1>would tighten up all of this stuff and make Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Holman's job a lot easier. Why is he going to

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<v Speaker 1>court route as opposed to the legislation route.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that's his go to style, is to

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<v Speaker 2>take everything to court or threaten the sue or sue someone,

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<v Speaker 2>and then that's becoming verse. Unfortunately, it seems like more

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<v Speaker 2>challenges have come to Trump's Anything he does gets challenge.

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<v Speaker 2>If he if he has a McDonald's cheeseburger, somebody's going

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<v Speaker 2>to challenge him in court, it seems these days. And

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<v Speaker 2>we do need judicial review, and we do need a

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<v Speaker 2>process that we take a look at. How can a

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<v Speaker 2>judge at some small, you know, district or some small

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<v Speaker 2>geographic area have a ruling that impacts the President of

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<v Speaker 2>the United States, the most powerful man in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand due process, but in this case, I think

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<v Speaker 2>everyone in America understands the what and the why of

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<v Speaker 2>what Donald Trump was trying to do to send these

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<v Speaker 2>bad ombres as he would call them bad ombres out

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<v Speaker 2>of the country. And you know, It's just that's the

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<v Speaker 2>tough thing is that President Trump's doing so many good things.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know when you call somebody a lunatic, it

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<v Speaker 2>stirs people up, especially a judge, And then you get

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<v Speaker 2>a Spring Court Justice Robert saying, hey, we're not all

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<v Speaker 2>luned yet, so stop talking about impeaching people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think Robert should have kept his mouth shut.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, if this case ever gets in

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<v Speaker 1>front of him, then you've got serious questions about his

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<v Speaker 1>ability to rule in an impartial manner. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>in things like this, Roberts need and any of those

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<v Speaker 1>guys and women that sit on the Supreme Courts just

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<v Speaker 1>need to shut up about this stuff. But nevertheless, you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>this Boseburg character doesn't like Trump, has had illegal history

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<v Speaker 1>with him, appears to be overstepping his grounds. I said

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<v Speaker 1>last week when I was on this radio station. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're about six hundred and seventy five of these guys

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<v Speaker 1>walking around in these black robes at these district coords.

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<v Speaker 1>If every one of them decided they were going to

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<v Speaker 1>weigh in on a particular thing that Trump is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do or what this country is trying to do domestically,

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<v Speaker 1>or foreign from a foreign aspect, we'd be paralyzed, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>would be able to happen. So we've got we've got

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<v Speaker 1>an issue, And I agree with you where it is

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<v Speaker 1>a lawsuit, though, has to start somewhere. It's got to

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<v Speaker 1>start in some court. But I think there's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be a trigger mechanism so that these lower court judges

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the power that they have right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>that it can get to something like it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>now sooner than later. Look, Washington, Trump is never going

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<v Speaker 1>to get a favorable ruling out of any court in Washington, DC.

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<v Speaker 1>The city is ninety two percent Democrat. But my point

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<v Speaker 1>being is you kind of like take these guys out

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<v Speaker 1>of where they are, put them back in their lane,

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<v Speaker 1>and get this where it should go logically, which is

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<v Speaker 1>quicker to this appeal board and then onto the Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what you're saying as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, we should almost have like a minor league

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<v Speaker 2>or a JV team or something for the Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're in Washington where there's perhaps a governing or

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<v Speaker 2>ruling body of judges that they're the only ones. So

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<v Speaker 2>you don't get you don't get a party at the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats in this case, judge hunting, whether you know. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>they go out to California and get a judge that

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<v Speaker 2>will rule something in California that has to do with

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<v Speaker 2>the whole nation. So they just go shopping for judges

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<v Speaker 2>that are of like mind. And it would be better

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<v Speaker 2>if we had one body almost like the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the minor League for the Supreme Court that might help

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<v Speaker 2>America make decisions on some of these things rather than

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<v Speaker 2>creating this brew haha that we have right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm and to play off that, I'm looking at the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 1>Since November, the Democrats are in disarray. They have no leader.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the greatest disservice that Joe Biden did

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<v Speaker 1>to his party, and that, you know, because he was

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<v Speaker 1>incapable of governing and it was a cabal that ran

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<v Speaker 1>basically Washington, d C. During his time. It's left the

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<v Speaker 1>entire Democrat Party leaderless, wide open vacuum. But I would

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<v Speaker 1>go back as far as the waning day of the

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<v Speaker 1>Obama administration as the last time the Democrats stood for anything,

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<v Speaker 1>because after that, the only thing you've heard from them

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<v Speaker 1>is stop Trump, Orange Man bad, We hate Trump. Trump

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<v Speaker 1>likes this get Trump, Get Musk. Musk likes Trump, Get

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<v Speaker 1>Musk and Trump. That's all you hear. Jasmine Crockett AOC.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a couple of nitwits. They are the loudest

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<v Speaker 1>voices in that party right now. There's nothing from any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of creative standpoint, any kind of leadership standpoint, that's

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<v Speaker 1>coming from that party. So as bad as Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>getting it in the courts, it's even worse, I think

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<v Speaker 1>in the mind of the American public for what the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats are doing right now. They're at a less than

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty percent approval rate right now, Dan, and they

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<v Speaker 1>keep singing the same songs that got them whacked in November.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's going on with that party, but

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like it's on life support right now. What

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<v Speaker 1>about you, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The Democratic Party's lost right now. Don't have a leaders

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<v Speaker 2>that's standing up and that people are rallying around.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, you nailed at Obama.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, one of the reasons he was successful, and prior

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<v Speaker 2>to him, Bill Clinton, because Bill Clinton was somewhat of

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<v Speaker 2>a centrist, he kind of moved to the center, and

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<v Speaker 2>Obama because he was the first, you know, African American president.

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<v Speaker 2>He kind of moved to the center. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats have lost their way and they have to

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<v Speaker 2>realize that the American the Ken Bruce, the Dan Snells,

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<v Speaker 2>and most Americans, seventy percent of America wants to just

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<v Speaker 2>have the place we call home be made better. And

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<v Speaker 2>we're in the center and we don't like the far

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<v Speaker 2>extreme left and the far extreme right. We want somebody

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<v Speaker 2>to be where most people are. And they have to

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<v Speaker 2>find someone. I'm not sure, you know, I say with

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<v Speaker 2>a smile. And I heard you mentioned about Andy Bisheer.

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<v Speaker 2>I once thought he might be a decent candidate. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, but the Democrats need to find somebody different

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<v Speaker 2>than attack Trump because just as people are tired so

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<v Speaker 2>tired of that, you know, and you and I've always

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<v Speaker 2>talked about Trump needs to pivot himself because the midterms

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<v Speaker 2>are coming up, and sometimes he gets himself in trouble

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<v Speaker 2>with his words and behavior and rhetoric, and so it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be interesting you and I'll be talking.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but what's going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Happen in oh yeah, well, I mean if if, if,

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<v Speaker 1>if the Republicans don't hold the House. First thing that

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats are going to do, because this is all they know.

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<v Speaker 1>They're they're they're just they're they're just blinded by their ideologies.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to impeach Trump and that will have that

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<v Speaker 1>and then that'll paralyze the Senate. Because that's all they know.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't they don't have any ideas. You mentioned Andy Basher.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet at one point I thought Vasher was a moderate.

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<v Speaker 1>dei in Kentucky public colleges and universities. These are hot

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<v Speaker 1>But my point is it even seems like a guy

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<v Speaker 1>the moderate voices? They're being strangled by Basher and his rulings.

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<v Speaker 1>They're being strangled by Jasmin Krockett and AOC and Chuck Schumer.

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<v Speaker 1>There have to be some moderate voices that understand that

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<v Speaker 1>this country is best governed if it were a football

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<v Speaker 1>and far right. Where are the moderate voices in the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat Party?

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, you know, with a smile, I say that perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>the Democratic Party should just send out all copies of

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<v Speaker 1>Guys out here selling his book. Absolutely, it's a group

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<v Speaker 1>of how old is that book?

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<v Speaker 2>It's now twenty ninety five years old?

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<v Speaker 5>Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>When you and I first began this great air connected goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're you're about ready for another one. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you had another one, but you're ready for another one

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<v Speaker 1>after that. So you need to keep having the right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get you all. I'll get your book sold for you.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact of the matter is is I don't

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<v Speaker 1>is going forward very soon. I really don't. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>quite certain that Trump's going to get everything he wants,

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<v Speaker 1>but he may keep the House in twenty twenty six,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well we can hope for that. The interesting thing is,

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<v Speaker 2>all these legal challenges, in these court challenges and these

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<v Speaker 2>progress when Trump has to fight what he's trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do with some of his good ideas. You know, he

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<v Speaker 2>is exceptional at come and throwing out ideas to get

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<v Speaker 2>first talked about Canada, so many people thought, well.

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<v Speaker 2>Unbelievable, but they really think about it and how it

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<v Speaker 2>would impact them, and how just because we're so used

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<v Speaker 2>to the world map being exactly as it was. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>the Louisiana purchase was once made, people probably thought that

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<v Speaker 2>and in Greenland and Canada. But what happens is when

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<v Speaker 2>you will challenge him with all these courtroom battles, and

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is like a basketball game, and you got

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<v Speaker 2>both teams strategizing, but Trump Trump has got the fans

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<v Speaker 2>are mostly in the stands cheering for Donald Trump. We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna see what happens in our months ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, absolutely, And I guarantee you if you were on

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<v Speaker 1>the court last night officiating that Colorado State Maryland game,

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<v Speaker 1>you Dan Snell, who never saw a violation he didn't like, you,

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<v Speaker 1>would have blown that guy steps traveling Colorado State plays

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<v Speaker 1>on Maryland's on a bus home. Well that's a topic

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<v Speaker 1>for another day. I'm sure you look at that and

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<v Speaker 1>dissect it and everything and make a full reports of

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<v Speaker 1>the NCAA. But for your time here, Dan, we appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay well. I always say this. We need to hear

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<v Speaker 4>It's always great to be with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you stay wins my friend?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? All right, there he is Dan Snell, author

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<v Speaker 1>of The Winsome Way, the winsome candidate who doesn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be winsome in this day and age, And sure

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<v Speaker 1>as Avy University is that way too. Maybe Chris Mack

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<v Speaker 1>is coming back. Maybe they're going to have another another

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<v Speaker 1>homecoming for Chris Mack. I walked down that path with

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Miller. Sean Miller saw the first thing that came

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<v Speaker 1>down the pike that looked better, and Austin Leavista baby.

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<v Speaker 1>But nevertheless, maybe it's Chris Mack.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It'd be nice to have a Mac attack here again.

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<v Speaker 1>It is twelve twenty four News Radio seven hundred w

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<v Speaker 1>WELW thirty six News Radio seven hundred w WELW. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back the average American in for the great American. Sean

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<v Speaker 1>Never is apparently leaving Xavier again. Xavior fan is mad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, who didn't see this coming? Miller did it

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<v Speaker 1>once before, do it once? Chances are you'll do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Ask any jilted wife. Xavier through Miller a lifeline three

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. Remember Miller was radioactive. You know the story

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<v Speaker 1>one of his assistant coaches where Miller had landed after

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<v Speaker 1>leaving Xavier. That was the first time he left Xavier anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>One of his assistant coaches got collared in a play

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<v Speaker 1>for pay scandal, another in an academic scandal, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the University of Arizona, where he had landed, finally canned Miller.

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<v Speaker 1>Xavier took him back. Cheated on spouses. Always think it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be better with a little counseling. You know, a Xavier

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<v Speaker 1>fan feels like a cheated spouse today. He should not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not Miller, it's college athletics. Don't hate the player,

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<v Speaker 1>hate the game. Miller is taking the money and running.

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<v Speaker 1>You would have too. You've never taken a job because

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<v Speaker 1>it paid more money, or the new company you're running

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<v Speaker 1>to would make it easier for you to do your job.

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<v Speaker 1>You're either stupid or lying. It's done every day. College

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<v Speaker 1>Athletics is just catching up. Miller is going to make

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<v Speaker 1>more money at Texas, but it's the money his players

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<v Speaker 1>there will make that's the issue. The last stats we

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<v Speaker 1>got about Xavier's name, image, and likeness and what they

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<v Speaker 1>haul in came to about one million dollars one million total,

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<v Speaker 1>about one hundred and fifty Xavier athletes split the pot.

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<v Speaker 1>Those numbers were from two years ago in Austin, Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>Longhorn players split about fifteen and a half mil same

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<v Speaker 1>time two years ago, two schools, fourteen and a half

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar difference. In today's NCAA, money buys players, players

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<v Speaker 1>win championships. That's why Xavier is looking for a new

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<v Speaker 1>head coach. Coaches are motivated by two things and two

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<v Speaker 1>things only, championship, opportunity and money. Sean Miller is like

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<v Speaker 1>any other coach. He got it better in Texas on

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<v Speaker 1>both fronts. And don't scream about loyalty. I heard all

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<v Speaker 1>about loyalty this morning. Don't scream about loyalty everywhere. Loyalty

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<v Speaker 1>is dying, layoffs, twenty year company guy fired, customer service indifference.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a reason why the big boss man really leaves

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<v Speaker 1>the c suite these days. It doesn't matter what team Reds, Bengals,

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<v Speaker 1>uc ZAB, doesn't matter what player. You will always care

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<v Speaker 1>more about them than they will care about you. Teams

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<v Speaker 1>and players may be your passion, but to them it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a job.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>The American Psychological Association says up to forty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>marriages and because of infidelity, fifty percent of all marriages

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<v Speaker 1>and period in divorce, No increases to sixty percent in

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<v Speaker 1>second marriages. The numbers don't lie. Xavier should have seen

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<v Speaker 1>it coming. Don't hate the player, hate the game. But

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<v Speaker 1>what is Sean Miller allegedly running zoo? And how good

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<v Speaker 1>is it? Standing by is one of the top experts

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<v Speaker 1>on NIL name image and likeness and why it now

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<v Speaker 1>runs college athletics more so than any coach and any

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<v Speaker 1>athletic director, and a large reason why you see coaches

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<v Speaker 1>jumping here there and players everywhere. He's our good buddy

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<v Speaker 1>from the app my NIL pay Brett Chapman, how are

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<v Speaker 1>you on this glorious day? Ken?

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<v Speaker 3>It is so great to be back.

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<v Speaker 5>And that was an incredible introduction about NIL.

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<v Speaker 3>I love hearing it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true though, that's what's going on. The transfer portal

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<v Speaker 1>opens to if your coach has left, you're trying, or

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<v Speaker 1>your coach has been fired, you're trying to scramble and

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<v Speaker 1>get somebody to replace him because teams need to be rebuilt.

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<v Speaker 1>Players now have this ability to move from team to team.

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<v Speaker 1>But how much better will it be for Sean Miller?

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<v Speaker 5>Who?

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<v Speaker 1>And again these there are numbers from two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know what twenty twenty four numbers are

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<v Speaker 1>but by and large, Xavier's collective made about a million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a lot of money for a lot of athletes.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it like now in Texas?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I can tell you my information is probably close

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<v Speaker 5>to that eight old is that the starting lineup of

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<v Speaker 5>Texas for basketball is about two million dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>So wow.

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<v Speaker 5>But here's the funny part, right, didn't Javier just beat

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<v Speaker 5>Texas eighty six to eighty Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Their entigher nil pot is less.

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<v Speaker 5>Than what the starting lineup was making and they beat them. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>So I mean where it's going Ken is unfortunately is

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<v Speaker 5>you said it right? It's being very financial focused, right,

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<v Speaker 5>and a team like Texas they of course and I

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<v Speaker 5>say of course, but you know, they're one of the

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<v Speaker 5>larger universities in the country. They have a huge, wealthy

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<v Speaker 5>alumni network, you know, fortune, five hundred CIOs, oil, gas tech,

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<v Speaker 5>millions of dollars flowing into their collective and into the

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously football and basketball are their big programs, so they

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<v Speaker 5>have millions of dollars. In Xavier, although a strong regional

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<v Speaker 5>basketball school, basketball focused to a no football program.

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<v Speaker 3>To compete with, they just can't compete against a school

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<v Speaker 5>And that's not just for players, unfortunately, that's also for coaches.

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<v Speaker 5>What we're seeing with the cheating husband Scott.

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<v Speaker 1>Miller, you know, And all you have to do really

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<v Speaker 1>is look at this year's NCAA tournament. Nil is catching up.

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<v Speaker 1>It is you know, the days of the quaint stories

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<v Speaker 1>of you know that fourteen seed. You always know that

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<v Speaker 1>seven maybe seven SEC schools are in the NCAA Sweet sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a reason why all four number one seeds are

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<v Speaker 1>all four number they're all still there. And why are

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<v Speaker 1>they there Because they've got money and money buys players.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know the days of the mid majors or

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<v Speaker 1>It's sailed. And you know, people that want to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to where it was, it's never going back there

421
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<v Speaker 1>to that place.

422
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<v Speaker 6>Is.

423
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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think another important part isn't just the money

425
00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:07.359
<v Speaker 5>they get paid, you know, from the school which is

426
00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:10.839
<v Speaker 5>coming isn't there yet, or the collective. It's also the

427
00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:13.839
<v Speaker 5>marketing and branding. So think of it this way, Right,

428
00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:17.240
<v Speaker 5>you go to Texas, you have more access than national media,

429
00:24:17.720 --> 00:24:22.480
<v Speaker 5>major TV games, endorsement potential, you're a big name, right,

430
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<v Speaker 5>you can you can shinner rate your you can increase

431
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<v Speaker 5>your personal brand.

432
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<v Speaker 3>Right. So that that has also a really big part

433
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<v Speaker 3>of it.

434
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<v Speaker 5>And I'll say, having been in the space, that is

435
00:24:35.279 --> 00:24:37.640
<v Speaker 5>where a lot of the where a lot of the

436
00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:41.079
<v Speaker 5>business sits is in the marketing aspect and the branding

437
00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:44.039
<v Speaker 5>aspect of it. There's a million of those guys out

438
00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:47.119
<v Speaker 5>there trying to convince these kids that they can brand

439
00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:48.839
<v Speaker 5>themselves and they can market themselves.

440
00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:50.000
<v Speaker 3>And if you're if they're.

441
00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:51.799
<v Speaker 5>Talking to one of these guys and say, hey, I've

442
00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:55.279
<v Speaker 5>got a good opportunity at Texas or Xavier, what do

443
00:24:55.359 --> 00:24:57.279
<v Speaker 5>you think the guy's going to say. He's going to say,

444
00:24:57.519 --> 00:25:00.279
<v Speaker 5>go to Texas. And that's part of the problem, right,

445
00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:02.720
<v Speaker 5>is that not just the money, but you've also got

446
00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:06.799
<v Speaker 5>all the influence of branding and the social media aspects.

447
00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:09.519
<v Speaker 5>They're encouraging the kids to go where they can get

448
00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:11.599
<v Speaker 5>more exposure sure.

449
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<v Speaker 1>And because let's again be real, the NBA for most

450
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<v Speaker 1>of the players that you're watching here during this field

451
00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:22.880
<v Speaker 1>of sixty eight is not a realistic goal. It's like

452
00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:25.880
<v Speaker 1>anything else, only the best go to the best. There's

453
00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:29.839
<v Speaker 1>a finite number of teams. So in essence, college basketball

454
00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:33.559
<v Speaker 1>for most of these players is their NBA. Make the money,

455
00:25:34.039 --> 00:25:36.680
<v Speaker 1>earn the brand, make money off the brand for as

456
00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:39.319
<v Speaker 1>long as you can. And that's what's going on here.

457
00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:43.200
<v Speaker 1>And look, I watch coaches in this town come and go,

458
00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:45.599
<v Speaker 1>they leave at the drop of the hat. I don't

459
00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:47.920
<v Speaker 1>get upset when a player decides, you know what, I

460
00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:50.039
<v Speaker 1>can get it better somewhere else. You know what that does?

461
00:25:50.200 --> 00:25:53.039
<v Speaker 1>That just puts more pressure on the coach who's always

462
00:25:53.079 --> 00:25:55.119
<v Speaker 1>had the ability to come and go at his pleasure.

463
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<v Speaker 1>So I don't I have no sympathy for these coaches,

464
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<v Speaker 1>nor do I have any sympathy for these universities that

465
00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:04.119
<v Speaker 1>can't afford to keep a coach. You want to play

466
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:07.720
<v Speaker 1>the game, pony up the money, and it's a it's

467
00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:11.400
<v Speaker 1>a it's a it's a war of attrition. A lot

468
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<v Speaker 1>of these basketball only schools, like Xavier, like Georgetown, they're

469
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<v Speaker 1>going to find it increasingly difficult to generate the kind

470
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<v Speaker 1>of nil money that major state schools like Texas can generate.

471
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<v Speaker 1>And it's just going to be the way of the world.

472
00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:32.720
<v Speaker 1>You'll learn either to lower your expectations or hope that somehow,

473
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<v Speaker 1>some way, once every fifteen or twenty years, you're going

474
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<v Speaker 1>to sneak in and win something. But that that's the

475
00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:40.240
<v Speaker 1>direction all of this is going, is it not?

476
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:44.599
<v Speaker 3>It is? And I think that there's a very important thing.

477
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<v Speaker 5>I think we talked about this the last time I

478
00:26:46.599 --> 00:26:51.200
<v Speaker 5>was on, which is the House versus ncaa settlement right

479
00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:56.839
<v Speaker 5>that would allow the schools to pay twenty two million

480
00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:00.960
<v Speaker 5>dollars a year to athletes. Now, keeping mind today so

481
00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:04.720
<v Speaker 5>that everyone understands, the collectives are funded by donors.

482
00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:05.799
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, if you're a.

483
00:27:05.799 --> 00:27:07.920
<v Speaker 5>Smaller school, you probably don't have the same amount of

484
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:12.440
<v Speaker 5>wealthy donors as a larger school ass But the universities

485
00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:15.119
<v Speaker 5>here in the future will be able to pay out

486
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<v Speaker 5>of their endowments for athletics.

487
00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:20.359
<v Speaker 3>So it actually gets shifted back.

488
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<v Speaker 5>Right now, Xavier can kind of be like, well, you

489
00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:23.880
<v Speaker 5>know we're not out of that. Well, we have nothing

490
00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:26.200
<v Speaker 5>to do with it, right, that's on our donors, right, well,

491
00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:28.640
<v Speaker 5>in a year or so, it's going to be on

492
00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:31.559
<v Speaker 5>that like, hey, why didn't you take twenty million dollars

493
00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:35.119
<v Speaker 5>out of your endowment and pump it towards sports. You

494
00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:37.119
<v Speaker 5>can point the finger back at then, But here's what

495
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<v Speaker 5>I would say. I would say, Look, dude, if I

496
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:43.319
<v Speaker 5>was a university like Xavier, I would take my twenty

497
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:46.720
<v Speaker 5>million dollars. I would buy the best basketball team money

498
00:27:46.759 --> 00:27:50.119
<v Speaker 5>can buy for twenty million dollars, and I would win

499
00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:53.200
<v Speaker 5>the national championship because I'm pretty sure you can go

500
00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:55.920
<v Speaker 5>a long way with twenty million dollars with some young kids.

501
00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:59.160
<v Speaker 5>You win the championship, and then guess what, you rebuilt

502
00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:01.359
<v Speaker 5>the credibility, and now you've got the brand, and now

503
00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:04.039
<v Speaker 5>everyone wants to play there because you're a final fourteen.

504
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:06.640
<v Speaker 3>You can do that with twenty million dollars.

505
00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:09.599
<v Speaker 5>But guess what, I'm pretty sure the academics that run

506
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<v Speaker 5>any university, especially.

507
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:15.079
<v Speaker 3>Xavier, probably aren't that focused on sports to spend that

508
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<v Speaker 3>money on winning a championship.

509
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<v Speaker 1>No, I know that, but it's interesting. Interesting you mentioned

510
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<v Speaker 1>that I went to Ohio University, which is a smaller

511
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:28.319
<v Speaker 1>state school here in Ohio, great academically in several fields,

512
00:28:28.920 --> 00:28:32.279
<v Speaker 1>other fields, it could stand some improvement. But they had

513
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<v Speaker 1>a school president back in the early part of the

514
00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:39.519
<v Speaker 1>two thousands. His name was doctor Roderick McDavid, and he

515
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>figured out quickly that the front porch to any university

516
00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:48.000
<v Speaker 1>is athletics, and that you could have the greatest school

517
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>of chemistry, or you could have the greatest school of

518
00:28:50.319 --> 00:28:53.599
<v Speaker 1>osteopathic medicine, or you could have the greatest school of journalism.

519
00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:55.960
<v Speaker 1>That's all well and good. There's a lot of those

520
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:59.160
<v Speaker 1>out there, But if no one knows about it, then

521
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:02.359
<v Speaker 1>what is it? But if you have a good football

522
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:05.440
<v Speaker 1>team and he built one with a legendary coach, and

523
00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:08.880
<v Speaker 1>you have a basketball team that can win games on

524
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:11.920
<v Speaker 1>the national stage, and he had one that did the

525
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:14.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, one of the Sweet sixteen a few years ago,

526
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:19.119
<v Speaker 1>and that had never happened there in decades, you'll get eyeballs,

527
00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:22.079
<v Speaker 1>and who knows, there could be some kid or his

528
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>parents sitting there watching that game. What is Ohio?

529
00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:25.720
<v Speaker 3>You know? What is that?

530
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Where is that? It's where?

531
00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:27.160
<v Speaker 5>Well?

532
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:27.799
<v Speaker 3>What is it known?

533
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:32.400
<v Speaker 1>And if you just get ten students that you had

534
00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:35.200
<v Speaker 1>no shot at getting to come there and go to

535
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:37.839
<v Speaker 1>your school and pay tuition and then do something dynamic

536
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:42.039
<v Speaker 1>with that education. After they're there, you can't buy anything better.

537
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:45.559
<v Speaker 1>But to get there, you've got to have a calling card.

538
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>And he realized it was athletics. And that's not a

539
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:50.759
<v Speaker 1>bad idea. I don't I don't run I don't purport

540
00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>to run any any university, nor do I want to.

541
00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:57.559
<v Speaker 1>But what gets you your most eyeballs and what gets

542
00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>you your most bang for the buck in an where

543
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:03.039
<v Speaker 1>you can actually go out and buy it, not recruited

544
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>and hope. It's college athletics. It's the way of the world, Brent.

545
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:12.240
<v Speaker 3>That is correct, and it's not.

546
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:14.240
<v Speaker 5>And the thing that you said in the open, which

547
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:17.559
<v Speaker 5>I thought was very silly, is it ain't changing, right,

548
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:19.000
<v Speaker 5>It's only.

549
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:22.079
<v Speaker 3>Going to get worse, and it's only going to be

550
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:27.319
<v Speaker 3>more focused on money. And but there is an opportunity there.

551
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:30.599
<v Speaker 5>It's all about what is the school motive and goals

552
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:31.960
<v Speaker 5>and what do they want to get out of it.

553
00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:33.920
<v Speaker 5>But I agree with you with your example, and you

554
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:38.000
<v Speaker 5>can use sports to a gain awareness for university. I

555
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:40.720
<v Speaker 5>grew up in the mid nineties in the Detroit area

556
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:44.920
<v Speaker 5>and I know all about Xavier basketball. They had some

557
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:48.680
<v Speaker 5>really good teams when I was growing up they really did,

558
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:51.279
<v Speaker 5>and that's how I know I wouldn't know Xavier otherwise.

559
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:54.440
<v Speaker 5>I know Xavier because they had good basketball teams and

560
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:55.119
<v Speaker 5>I had them.

561
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:56.960
<v Speaker 3>In my bracket when I was in high school.

562
00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:00.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so yeah, it's kind of You're writing creates a

563
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.720
<v Speaker 5>lot of awareness around around the school.

564
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Brent Chapmans, our guest. My nil pay is his app

565
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:12.079
<v Speaker 1>where you can literally sit on your couch and watch

566
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:15.119
<v Speaker 1>an athletic event, and if you see an athlete, any athlete,

567
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>any d one school, anywhere, and you say, well, WHOA

568
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:21.680
<v Speaker 1>that was good or maybe a Jeralma monor hey that

569
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:24.720
<v Speaker 1>was great, score a touchdown, We're up. You have the ability, then,

570
00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:27.960
<v Speaker 1>through his app, to make a payment to that player.

571
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>The player has the option whether or not to accept it,

572
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:33.720
<v Speaker 1>but you have a chance to become active in this

573
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:38.480
<v Speaker 1>hole nil Okay, Brent, what do we tell Xavier fans

574
00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:43.039
<v Speaker 1>today besides either pay up and get in the game

575
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>or suck it up and just understand that it's never

576
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:48.839
<v Speaker 1>going to be the way you want it to be.

577
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:51.200
<v Speaker 1>What do you tell Xavier fans at this point?

578
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:55.519
<v Speaker 3>You know, I definitely am not a defeat this person.

579
00:31:56.200 --> 00:31:58.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm a half a glass, half hole guy.

580
00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:02.119
<v Speaker 5>So I would say, anticipate the way you can, right

581
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:05.759
<v Speaker 5>if it's twenty dollars to your collective or going on

582
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:10.279
<v Speaker 5>my nil pay and shooting the guy twenty bucks thirty bucks.

583
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:13.799
<v Speaker 5>Participate in the way that you can to support the kids.

584
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:17.160
<v Speaker 5>And let the university know too how you feel, because

585
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:21.960
<v Speaker 5>very quickly they're going to have the opportunity to do something.

586
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:24.000
<v Speaker 3>About it directly. They don't right now.

587
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:26.200
<v Speaker 5>But they will be able to within the next year

588
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:30.400
<v Speaker 5>or two. So I think that's important for Xavier fans.

589
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:33.400
<v Speaker 5>I've got a question for you, Ken though, before I

590
00:32:33.559 --> 00:32:36.519
<v Speaker 5>take off, which is, how does your bracket look?

591
00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:42.480
<v Speaker 6>Oh?

592
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:45.720
<v Speaker 1>You had to go there? Huh you had to go there? Well, look,

593
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:48.039
<v Speaker 1>I still have a shot. I still have a shot.

594
00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I got duke winning, I have duke winning at all.

595
00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:55.240
<v Speaker 1>So I'm still there. I'm still there. But I got

596
00:32:56.839 --> 00:33:00.960
<v Speaker 1>buzzed by some overreach. I bought into the Akron you

597
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>know narrative. Akron a hell of a year here. I

598
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:07.359
<v Speaker 1>bought into that narrative, and I thought, okay, well, obviously

599
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>that didn't work out. I didn't get sucked into the

600
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina narrative. I knew that wasn't going to happen,

601
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:18.640
<v Speaker 1>and I had Marquette and I probably got you know, yeah,

602
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that ruined a lot of people's brackets. But

603
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:24.119
<v Speaker 1>I got, I got Duke. I got Duke. They're still alive.

604
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they get past Arizona here in

605
00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:29.200
<v Speaker 1>the next round, and if they do, I'm I'm not

606
00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:32.319
<v Speaker 1>sure what happens after that. But I got Duke in

607
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>the next round, so we'll see. I don't know how's yours.

608
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:37.759
<v Speaker 3>I got an outside shot I got.

609
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:41.640
<v Speaker 5>I got Duke in Florida plus Michigan in Kentucky, so

610
00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:44.119
<v Speaker 5>Michigan and Kentucky make it to the final fart.

611
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:46.640
<v Speaker 3>I might actually have a shot to win it. But

612
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:47.920
<v Speaker 3>I will tell you the funny part.

613
00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:49.880
<v Speaker 5>We're in one of these bracket challenges, you know, with

614
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:54.960
<v Speaker 5>like two three hundred people, and my wife is currently

615
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:56.200
<v Speaker 5>in second place.

616
00:33:56.480 --> 00:34:00.839
<v Speaker 3>Oh man, I can't remember the last watched the college Best.

617
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:02.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry for you.

618
00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:06.920
<v Speaker 3>So I just love this. I love this part about

619
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:07.319
<v Speaker 3>this year.

620
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:11.960
<v Speaker 5>You can literally know nothing about college basketball and be

621
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:13.920
<v Speaker 5>the second bracket.

622
00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:16.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she has Michigan State winning at.

623
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:21.280
<v Speaker 1>All, So we'll see. Oh, oh well they get they

624
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>get Old Miss next, and then they may they'll probably well,

625
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:25.719
<v Speaker 1>they will get the Michigan A and M winner. I

626
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:29.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sorry, No, they get Yeah, they get old

627
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:34.480
<v Speaker 1>miss next and then they'll get right the Michigan Auburn winner.

628
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:40.159
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that I don't it a shot? Yeah's a shot,

629
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:42.920
<v Speaker 1>all right, Brent, you stay well. Thanks for the insight.

630
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:45.679
<v Speaker 1>We appreciate it. Yeah, take care, Ken, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>good one man, Yes, Sir Brent Chapman. Anybody who didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see this coming Xavier simply wasn't paying attention to twelve

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<v Speaker 1>fifty four. Got a lot coming up on the show today.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up at one oh six, I'm going to talk

635
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<v Speaker 1>to the man who shot Osama Bin Laden part of

636
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<v Speaker 1>that Sealed Team six shot Osama bin Lauden. Coming up

637
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<v Speaker 1>at one o six, two o six. Marriage and stress

638
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:15.920
<v Speaker 1>and how one couple figured it out despite the fact

639
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<v Speaker 1>that the stress in their marriage is probably non paralleled.

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<v Speaker 1>On seven hundred WTLW all right, seven hundred WLWT welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>It is one o seven here in the Greater Cincinnati area,

642
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<v Speaker 1>counting down to a number of things this week, not

643
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:39.719
<v Speaker 1>the least of which Opening Day Thursday at Great American Ballpark.

644
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Weather is improving, and that's the way we like it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing to think back, but it will be in

646
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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six, twenty five years since the greatest attack

647
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<v Speaker 1>on this country when a band of thugs, a very

648
00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:58.880
<v Speaker 1>small band of thugs, pulled off what we now referred

649
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:01.360
<v Speaker 1>to as nine to eleven and close to three thousand

650
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:05.079
<v Speaker 1>people lost their lives on that day, nine eleven, two

651
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:11.119
<v Speaker 1>thousand and one. It took almost ten years to hunt

652
00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:14.480
<v Speaker 1>down and bring to justice the man who was the

653
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<v Speaker 1>mastermind behind the nine to eleven attacks, and that of course,

654
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<v Speaker 1>was Osama bin Laden. And it took the most elite

655
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:28.159
<v Speaker 1>fighting force that's out there, the most specially trained fighting

656
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:32.320
<v Speaker 1>force that is out there, to bring Osama bin Laden

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<v Speaker 1>to his death and to his justice. And it is

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<v Speaker 1>an honor to welcome into seven hundred wylw the man

659
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<v Speaker 1>who was Senior Chief Special Warfare Operator, a Navy Sealed

660
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<v Speaker 1>Team six leader. Highly decorated. He was with Sealed Team two,

661
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:50.119
<v Speaker 1>Sealed Team four, and eight years with the legendary Sealed

662
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:53.519
<v Speaker 1>Team six. It is an honor to welcome in Rob O'Neill. Rob,

663
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>how are you on this glorious day?

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<v Speaker 6>Good afternoon, Thanks for having me. I'm having a great day.

665
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<v Speaker 6>It's a Monday, but it's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Oh no, fine, great, Yeah. The first question is

667
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<v Speaker 1>an innocuous one. Have you ever been to Cincinnati?

668
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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

669
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<v Speaker 4>Of course.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's the best chili in the world. And here's

671
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:11.519
<v Speaker 6>here's a little story for you too. Two guys that

672
00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:14.960
<v Speaker 6>went on the bin lottenrad with me were from Cincinnati.

673
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<v Speaker 6>Before the bin Lotten Raid, we were in Iraq with

674
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:18.719
<v Speaker 6>no TV, no air conditioning.

675
00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:19.360
<v Speaker 3>We're just there.

676
00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:23.840
<v Speaker 6>I actually learned every word to the Cincinnati Bengals fights

677
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:26.480
<v Speaker 6>on the Bengal Grause. We'd sit there in a one

678
00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:28.519
<v Speaker 6>hundred degree heat then, so I wanted to teach me

679
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:31.159
<v Speaker 6>because that was so uplifting. So we just sing out

680
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:33.039
<v Speaker 6>of nowhere. When Morale was in the dumping it was

681
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:34.960
<v Speaker 6>too hot, we just started saying the bango. I know

682
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:37.039
<v Speaker 6>to this day still it's my daughters.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, there you go. You were So it

684
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:44.800
<v Speaker 1>took almost ten years to get ben Laden. He got

685
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:47.920
<v Speaker 1>May second, two thousand and eleven is one it happened.

686
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<v Speaker 1>I've read enough to know and understand enough to know

687
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:54.800
<v Speaker 1>that the training for that mission began long before May

688
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:58.559
<v Speaker 1>of twenty eleven. How far in advance did you Seal

689
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Team six be begin training for that mission.

690
00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:05.599
<v Speaker 6>It was about two weeks before we were confirmed that

691
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:07.719
<v Speaker 6>we were gonna go after Bin Laden, but we'd actually

692
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:10.320
<v Speaker 6>been preparing for it before because we went immediately to

693
00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:12.639
<v Speaker 6>war after nine to eleven. And just what we learned

694
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:16.159
<v Speaker 6>in combat in Afghanistan first, then Iraq, then all over

695
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:18.719
<v Speaker 6>you know, to include Yemen and Somalia, the Indian Ocean.

696
00:38:18.920 --> 00:38:20.760
<v Speaker 6>We just got really good at what we were doing.

697
00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:22.719
<v Speaker 6>We got really good at fighting the enemy and how

698
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:25.079
<v Speaker 6>to exploit it. And what that means is we just

699
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:28.320
<v Speaker 6>got better at keeping it simple. We stopped complicating everything.

700
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<v Speaker 6>And if, like someone asked me before, how do you

701
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<v Speaker 6>clear a compound.

702
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<v Speaker 4>As big as the Laddens?

703
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<v Speaker 6>And I just said, well, if the guy in front

704
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<v Speaker 6>of me goes left, I go right, and then we

705
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:39.239
<v Speaker 6>just do that over and over and over and we

706
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<v Speaker 6>I mean we just mentioned football, what like, there are

707
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<v Speaker 6>certain times in life where it doesn't matter how you

708
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<v Speaker 6>got here.

709
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:45.639
<v Speaker 4>You're just here.

710
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<v Speaker 6>And that happened at the Bin Laden raid when a

711
00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:49.639
<v Speaker 6>helicopter crashed. But when I talked to football teams, I

712
00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:52.599
<v Speaker 6>tell them, guys, it doesn't matter why it's second and fifteen,

713
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:54.960
<v Speaker 6>It just is Stop arguing about it.

714
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:57.079
<v Speaker 4>What we have in common is time is ticking. What

715
00:38:57.199 --> 00:38:58.559
<v Speaker 4>are you gonna do about it? Do it now?

716
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<v Speaker 6>So it's just a simplicity. Don't don't talk yourself into

717
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:03.960
<v Speaker 6>a butt kicken. Don't over complicate life. It'll get hard

718
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:06.079
<v Speaker 6>enough on its own. Just master the basics.

719
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<v Speaker 1>So you're basically a young man when all this is

720
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:10.119
<v Speaker 1>going on, you're in your early twenties.

721
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:13.519
<v Speaker 4>Correct when on that when I was in my early thirties,

722
00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:14.440
<v Speaker 4>because I was.

723
00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:16.480
<v Speaker 6>It took I mean, you know, if people talk about

724
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:18.400
<v Speaker 6>getting into bin Laden's room and shooting him and all

725
00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:20.519
<v Speaker 6>that stuff, it's not like I was flown there out

726
00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:23.119
<v Speaker 6>of high school. Like it took me personally fifteen and

727
00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:26.239
<v Speaker 6>a half years to get to that spot of training

728
00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:30.280
<v Speaker 6>and sweat and blood and selection courses, all the stuff

729
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:31.719
<v Speaker 6>and getting with the find and I'll be an honored

730
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:33.360
<v Speaker 6>to be pick on the pick, to be on the

731
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:35.960
<v Speaker 6>finest team I think ever assembled. But we were ready

732
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<v Speaker 6>for it at that point when I mean, when they

733
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:38.920
<v Speaker 6>told us the first time they told us what it was,

734
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:41.360
<v Speaker 6>they said, the reason you guys are here is it

735
00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:43.599
<v Speaker 6>as close as we've ever been to Osama bin Laden,

736
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<v Speaker 6>And there was no cheering.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we're professionals. We all just said cool, we're

738
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<v Speaker 4>going now.

739
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:51.360
<v Speaker 1>We're ready, yeah, and okay, So so help me through it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because there were two black Hawk helicopters, one of which,

741
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<v Speaker 1>as you mentioned, clipped I think one of the compound

742
00:39:56.199 --> 00:39:59.000
<v Speaker 1>walls and kind of went down sideways. Were you on

743
00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:00.360
<v Speaker 1>that chopper or the other one?

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<v Speaker 6>No, I was on the other one, and I didn't

745
00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:05.360
<v Speaker 6>even know it crashed until I got into bin Laden's house.

746
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<v Speaker 6>And what had actually happened was it was a little

747
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:11.239
<v Speaker 6>bit warmer than we anticipated, a few degrees celsius.

748
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<v Speaker 4>And the walls were different the mud walls we.

749
00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:15.519
<v Speaker 6>Were training on chain link fences, so there was a

750
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:18.079
<v Speaker 6>weird updraft and you'd have to ask a pilot because

751
00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:19.360
<v Speaker 6>I'm not smart enough.

752
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:19.880
<v Speaker 1>To be a pilot.

753
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<v Speaker 6>But the pilot decided he couldn't hover, and if he said,

754
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<v Speaker 6>a more inexperienced pilot would have tried to power it up.

755
00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:27.559
<v Speaker 4>That would have rolled and killed everybody.

756
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:29.719
<v Speaker 6>But the pilot, in the blink of it, I decided

757
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:32.400
<v Speaker 6>if he turned it and put the tail on the wall,

758
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:34.360
<v Speaker 6>he could pin the nose of the helicopter in the

759
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<v Speaker 6>dirt and it might save everyone's life, which it did.

760
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<v Speaker 4>But that pilot is a hero.

761
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<v Speaker 6>Oh and he just decided it to put it down

762
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<v Speaker 6>on the ground and then that it is what it

763
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<v Speaker 6>isn't The guys immediately got out and started fighting, and

764
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<v Speaker 6>like I said, I didn't even know it crashed until

765
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:49.679
<v Speaker 6>because they put us off on the wrong spot, because

766
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:51.880
<v Speaker 6>our pilot realized if they can't hover, we can't. However,

767
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:53.519
<v Speaker 6>I was supposed to go to the rooftop of bin

768
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:55.840
<v Speaker 6>Lad's house with my team, but he just put us

769
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<v Speaker 6>off outside the twenty foot walls and we had to

770
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<v Speaker 6>figure out a way to get in. But again we

771
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:03.440
<v Speaker 6>were just very experienced at what we can do, and

772
00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:05.599
<v Speaker 6>we we did figure it out eventually. But even the

773
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<v Speaker 6>sniper that we dropped off on my helicopter, his job

774
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:11.679
<v Speaker 6>was to run around the entire compound with the dog

775
00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:14.320
<v Speaker 6>outside the walls, and he got to the point where

776
00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:17.400
<v Speaker 6>the tail the helicopter with the pilot pin and he

777
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:19.599
<v Speaker 6>could see it on the X here. He came over

778
00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:22.800
<v Speaker 6>the radio and said, guys inside beyond alert. They're definitely

779
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.519
<v Speaker 6>ready for us. They have a training mockup of our

780
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:28.519
<v Speaker 6>super secret helicopter in their front yard. And there was

781
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:31.360
<v Speaker 6>a pause and the ground force commander came over the

782
00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:33.880
<v Speaker 6>radio and goes, no, jackass, that's ours.

783
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:36.800
<v Speaker 4>We crashed and the.

784
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<v Speaker 6>Sniper did a good thing, and he literally came over

785
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:42.440
<v Speaker 6>the radio and said, yeah, that makes a lot more

786
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:44.159
<v Speaker 6>sense than what I was just saying, Harry.

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<v Speaker 1>Hung You know I do. What I don't under is

788
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:48.239
<v Speaker 1>my next trip on a black Hawk will be my first.

789
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:51.199
<v Speaker 1>Don't those things make noise? How big was this compound?

790
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<v Speaker 1>If this isn't Pakistan, right, so how big is this compound?

791
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:56.719
<v Speaker 1>And why wouldn't you inside hear them?

792
00:41:57.639 --> 00:41:58.840
<v Speaker 4>Well, they probably hurt him.

793
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:02.320
<v Speaker 6>They were a little quieter, they these were The President

794
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:04.519
<v Speaker 6>of the United States didn't know about these helicopters until

795
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:05.480
<v Speaker 6>a few months prior to this.

796
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:06.480
<v Speaker 4>These were super secret.

797
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:09.480
<v Speaker 6>These were self This is stuff they tell me I

798
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:11.800
<v Speaker 6>shouldn't talk about, but again I don't know much about it.

799
00:42:11.880 --> 00:42:13.280
<v Speaker 4>The technology, as know, they were a little.

800
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<v Speaker 6>Quieter and the radar couldn't see them, and you know,

801
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:17.880
<v Speaker 6>training with them, it's like, well, I'm glad the Aliens

802
00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:20.400
<v Speaker 6>who invented these are on our side because this is ridiculous.

803
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:23.320
<v Speaker 4>But they were just really, really, really good helicopters.

804
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:28.320
<v Speaker 6>But again, because the Pakistani intelligence was hiding bid Laden there.

805
00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:32.159
<v Speaker 6>He must have assumed it was just Pakistani forces coming

806
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:33.719
<v Speaker 6>to get him or bring him out and put them

807
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:36.119
<v Speaker 6>somewhere else, because I mean, they put up a little

808
00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:37.800
<v Speaker 6>bit of a fight, but I'd be amazed there were

809
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:39.880
<v Speaker 6>no bombs in every room to blow us all up,

810
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:41.960
<v Speaker 6>and there wasn't a bigger like. People ask me why

811
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<v Speaker 6>wasn't there more Al Kaita fighters, and I'm.

812
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:43.960
<v Speaker 4>Like, well, I don't know.

813
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<v Speaker 6>I mean, all I could tell you is we didn't

814
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:47.760
<v Speaker 6>call ahead and say we were coming out, but they

815
00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:49.760
<v Speaker 6>weren't ready. I mean, not that that would have matter,

816
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.480
<v Speaker 6>because we crushed these guys, but but they, you know,

817
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:53.960
<v Speaker 6>they had a little bit of defense. But we, you know,

818
00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:57.079
<v Speaker 6>we were very prepared, very professional. We all, I mean

819
00:42:57.320 --> 00:42:59.760
<v Speaker 6>every guy on that mission had at least four hundred

820
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:02.960
<v Speaker 6>real war missions under their belt. So it was a

821
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:05.079
<v Speaker 6>I mean, we're still on the right guys. Don't get

822
00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:06.840
<v Speaker 6>me wrong. I didn't want twenty more fighters there, but

823
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:08.639
<v Speaker 6>we handled the ones we ran into, and it was

824
00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:12.400
<v Speaker 6>we turned something potentially catastrophic into something great just because

825
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:14.719
<v Speaker 6>of our preparation to get there. Not a perfect plan,

826
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:17.320
<v Speaker 6>which the perfect plan did last for three seconds, which

827
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:19.199
<v Speaker 6>is normal in life, you know, yeah.

828
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<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, I mean and you mentioned the combat missions.

829
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:25.719
<v Speaker 1>You were a veteran of hundreds of combat missions. Yeah, decorated,

830
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:28.679
<v Speaker 1>as I mentioned, leading into the two Silver stars, four

831
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:32.599
<v Speaker 1>Bronze Stars, various Navy and Marine Corps accommodation medals, and

832
00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:35.559
<v Speaker 1>so I mean you were, you were highly decorated. But

833
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:38.840
<v Speaker 1>as you know, well know, you go into any mission,

834
00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:41.119
<v Speaker 1>there is the likelihood that you're not coming back from

835
00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:43.360
<v Speaker 1>that mission. So it really didn't matter, I guess to

836
00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:46.400
<v Speaker 1>you whether it was going after Osama bin Laden or

837
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:49.239
<v Speaker 1>a regular Tuesday when you're out on patrol, there's a

838
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:51.159
<v Speaker 1>good chance that you weren't coming back. How did you

839
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:52.599
<v Speaker 1>handle that uncertainty?

840
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<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean the thing is, too is a bullet

841
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:58.239
<v Speaker 6>only needs to be right once, and if you get hit,

842
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:00.800
<v Speaker 6>it could end everything that's important, to everything you think matters.

843
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:03.079
<v Speaker 4>So you can end. If he gets shot, it could

844
00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:03.599
<v Speaker 4>just be over.

845
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:05.880
<v Speaker 6>And this one in particular, you know, we had a

846
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:08.159
<v Speaker 6>ninety minute flight in on helicopters that we didn't know

847
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:10.000
<v Speaker 6>if they worked, and we can get shot down and

848
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:12.960
<v Speaker 6>this house should blow up and there's gonna be a gunfight.

849
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:15.280
<v Speaker 6>We're not gonna have enough fuel. This could go a

850
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:17.000
<v Speaker 6>number of different ways. It's a one way mission. We

851
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:19.559
<v Speaker 6>accepted that, but we talked about it so you know,

852
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:21.800
<v Speaker 6>if we I had a guy even say don't don't

853
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:23.599
<v Speaker 6>before he went, he said, don't take this the wrong way,

854
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:25.800
<v Speaker 6>because I'm going one hundred percent going, I just need

855
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:26.639
<v Speaker 6>to say it out loud.

856
00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:29.480
<v Speaker 4>If we know we're gonna die tonight, why are we going?

857
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:32.079
<v Speaker 6>Which is fair? And we had that conversation and we

858
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:34.840
<v Speaker 6>decided we're not going for the fame. We're obviously not

859
00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:37.719
<v Speaker 6>getting the reward, but we're going after bin loaden tonight

860
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:40.199
<v Speaker 6>for the first Americans that were forced to fight out

861
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:42.039
<v Speaker 6>KaiA toe to Toada to the death, and those are

862
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:45.280
<v Speaker 6>the passengers on United flight ninety three. You know, we're

863
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:48.119
<v Speaker 6>going after bin loaden tonight for the single mom who

864
00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:50.360
<v Speaker 6>dropped their kids off at elementary school on a beautiful

865
00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:52.559
<v Speaker 6>Tuesday morning and then an hour later she jump to

866
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:54.599
<v Speaker 6>her death out of a skyscraper. Because that's a better

867
00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:57.320
<v Speaker 6>alternative right now than whatever's going on inside.

868
00:44:57.599 --> 00:44:59.920
<v Speaker 4>And then we'll never know she was, you know she was.

869
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:01.719
<v Speaker 6>They were supposed to do that, and those passengers weren't

870
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:04.000
<v Speaker 6>supposed to fight. We are supposed to fight, and that

871
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:04.800
<v Speaker 6>is why we're going.

872
00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you get inside the compound and you make

873
00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:12.119
<v Speaker 1>your way to the compound, tell me about getting inside

874
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:15.159
<v Speaker 1>the actual building where ben Laden is. I mean, I'm

875
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:17.159
<v Speaker 1>sure the door wasn't open, and they had a butler

876
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:20.880
<v Speaker 1>that said, yes, he's upstairs. How do you get us

877
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:21.440
<v Speaker 1>to that part?

878
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:24.559
<v Speaker 6>I saw a funny a funny meme that had a

879
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:27.599
<v Speaker 6>thing from Midlin's ring camera that said, oh, someone's here, brb,

880
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:32.239
<v Speaker 6>some kidding. They know my first team from the crash

881
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:34.559
<v Speaker 6>helicopter had already gotten in. There had already been a gunfight.

882
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:37.039
<v Speaker 6>One of my guys had shot two terrors through the

883
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:40.360
<v Speaker 6>exterior windows before he was in, and they must have

884
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:42.079
<v Speaker 6>kicked the door hit it with a sledgeham or something,

885
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:44.280
<v Speaker 6>but it was already open and they were already clearing

886
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:45.880
<v Speaker 6>it by the time I got in. So I was

887
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:48.880
<v Speaker 6>on the first floor watching my guys, and I kind

888
00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:50.519
<v Speaker 6>of just went into a side room. That's where one

889
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:52.800
<v Speaker 6>of the other dudes told me their helicopter crashed. And

890
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:55.360
<v Speaker 6>I was just impressed that because I'm looking for bombs

891
00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:57.519
<v Speaker 6>now this place should blow up. He's gonna martyr everyone.

892
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:00.000
<v Speaker 6>But I was looking at my guys who were working

893
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:01.920
<v Speaker 6>ahead of me, because I'm in a position I have

894
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:05.239
<v Speaker 6>the best seat on the most important, modern, most important

895
00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:07.360
<v Speaker 6>mission modern history. So I'm watching my guys and I

896
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:09.679
<v Speaker 6>was just proud of them because they know damn well

897
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:11.159
<v Speaker 6>they can blow up at any moment, but that's not

898
00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:13.440
<v Speaker 6>stopping them. They're not afraid, and they're not speeding up.

899
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:15.639
<v Speaker 6>They're they're using our tactics. And the way, the best

900
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:18.599
<v Speaker 6>way to describe our tactics are slow as smooth and

901
00:46:18.719 --> 00:46:20.760
<v Speaker 6>smooth as fast. So if you want to be fast,

902
00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:23.400
<v Speaker 6>slow down, you know. And I'm watching them do it.

903
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:26.000
<v Speaker 6>And the woman who found bin Laden, the CIA agent

904
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:29.400
<v Speaker 6>who was depicted in zero dor thirty, said that I

905
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:31.280
<v Speaker 6>don't know what it looks like inside, but there will

906
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:32.719
<v Speaker 6>be stairwells and the first.

907
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:35.639
<v Speaker 4>One you will run into Khalid bin Laden, and that's

908
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:37.320
<v Speaker 4>his twenty year old son. He will be armed.

909
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:40.159
<v Speaker 6>And she said, so here's how cool she was. He said,

910
00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:42.679
<v Speaker 6>if you can ace him, you get a shot at

911
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:45.119
<v Speaker 6>the big guy. That was cool, and we ran into him.

912
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:47.079
<v Speaker 6>The guys in front of me took carry him, so

913
00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:48.760
<v Speaker 6>we went up to the second floor. He's dead on

914
00:46:48.840 --> 00:46:51.679
<v Speaker 6>the stairs and then I was about eight guys back

915
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:55.320
<v Speaker 6>in line. Everyone except the first guy started going left

916
00:46:55.320 --> 00:46:58.679
<v Speaker 6>and right to clear the unknowns, the different rooms, stuff

917
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:00.440
<v Speaker 6>like that. So it's down to two of us going

918
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:02.840
<v Speaker 6>from the second floor to the third floor, and that's

919
00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:05.000
<v Speaker 6>where we know bin Laden is. So there's one guy

920
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:07.360
<v Speaker 6>in front of me and he's pointing his gun up

921
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:10.679
<v Speaker 6>the stairs and these stairs lead to a curtain like

922
00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:12.400
<v Speaker 6>a door, but it was just a curtain and he

923
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:14.480
<v Speaker 6>could see people moving back and forth.

924
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:15.760
<v Speaker 1>So it's down to me.

925
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:18.719
<v Speaker 6>My job is to control his shoulder so that when

926
00:47:18.760 --> 00:47:20.679
<v Speaker 6>we have and look for other guys that we're gonna bring.

927
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:23.039
<v Speaker 6>His job is to look forward so he doesn't need

928
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:24.559
<v Speaker 6>to look at me. But once I squeeze, it's time

929
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:27.239
<v Speaker 6>to go. And he just started saying, hey, we gotta go,

930
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:29.480
<v Speaker 6>we gotta get up, we gotta go. Come on now,

931
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:32.880
<v Speaker 6>because he's thinking those are suicide bombers. But we can

932
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:36.000
<v Speaker 6>beat him if we go right now. We can't hesitate.

933
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:39.119
<v Speaker 6>And I remember looking at him and literally he was brave.

934
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:39.559
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't.

935
00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:41.920
<v Speaker 6>I'm thinking, Okay, ben Line's up there and I'm gonna

936
00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:44.119
<v Speaker 6>blow up, but I'm just tired of thinking about it.

937
00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:46.000
<v Speaker 6>It wasn't bravery at all. It's like, let's just go.

938
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:48.559
<v Speaker 6>So I squeezed him and he went up and he

939
00:47:48.679 --> 00:47:50.599
<v Speaker 6>went to that curtain and he moved it, and he

940
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:53.559
<v Speaker 6>sort of tackled these two people that he assumed were

941
00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:56.119
<v Speaker 6>suicide bombers, like he didn't know he thought they were.

942
00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:57.840
<v Speaker 6>So he jumped on a grenade that didn't go off,

943
00:47:57.880 --> 00:47:59.920
<v Speaker 6>which how he doesn't have a medal of honor is

944
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:04.159
<v Speaker 6>beyond me. But because he went left, I went right

945
00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:06.159
<v Speaker 6>because of our tactics. And right in front of me,

946
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:08.280
<v Speaker 6>three feet away, standing on two feet was the Sauna

947
00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:10.559
<v Speaker 6>b Lunn and his wife Lamal was in front of

948
00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:13.280
<v Speaker 6>her him and he had his arms on her shoulders,

949
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:16.079
<v Speaker 6>and I remember thinking, I was I didn't think he would.

950
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:16.880
<v Speaker 4>Be as skinny as he was.

951
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:19.360
<v Speaker 6>He was taller than I thought, and his beard was

952
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:22.719
<v Speaker 6>sort of gray. But that's his nose, that's him. He's

953
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:25.360
<v Speaker 6>not surrendering. I've seen that picture a thousand times. He's

954
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:27.159
<v Speaker 6>a suicide bomber. I got to take him out, and

955
00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:28.800
<v Speaker 6>the way you deal with the suicide bombers to shoot

956
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:31.039
<v Speaker 6>him in the face. So I did twice at about

957
00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:32.480
<v Speaker 6>three feet away, and then he fell down. I shot

958
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:35.480
<v Speaker 6>him one more time, and then because his wife is

959
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:38.519
<v Speaker 6>in front of me and we're the good guys. Now

960
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:40.199
<v Speaker 6>it's time to move her out of the way because

961
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:41.679
<v Speaker 6>other seals will be coming in. I don't want it

962
00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:44.039
<v Speaker 6>to be a crossfire. And that's when I looked down

963
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:46.960
<v Speaker 6>and saw his two year old son. And this is

964
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:50.000
<v Speaker 6>the humanity of stuff like this. I'm a father and

965
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:51.440
<v Speaker 6>I'm looking at his two year old son. And my

966
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:53.679
<v Speaker 6>first thought was, this kid has nothing to do with this.

967
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:56.159
<v Speaker 6>He should not have seen this. So I'm moving them

968
00:48:56.719 --> 00:48:58.119
<v Speaker 6>out of the way, and I tune around. I can

969
00:48:58.159 --> 00:48:59.199
<v Speaker 6>hear bin Laden exhaling.

970
00:48:59.239 --> 00:48:59.440
<v Speaker 4>I can.

971
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:01.679
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it's an ugly side. I can see what

972
00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:03.000
<v Speaker 6>it looks like. It gets shot in the head three

973
00:49:03.039 --> 00:49:05.440
<v Speaker 6>times at close range. And I'm kind of looking at him,

974
00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:06.679
<v Speaker 6>and one of my friends comes up to me. He

975
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:09.480
<v Speaker 6>kind of gets controlling me and says, hey, are you good?

976
00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:11.800
<v Speaker 6>And I said I am, But what do we do now?

977
00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:15.440
<v Speaker 6>And we laughed and he said, now we find the computers. Bro,

978
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:17.360
<v Speaker 6>if we do this every night, hundreds of times, you've

979
00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:20.079
<v Speaker 6>done this, come on And I said, you're right, I'm back,

980
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:22.519
<v Speaker 6>Oh my god. And his words to me were, yeah,

981
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:24.760
<v Speaker 6>you just killed Osama Bin laden and your life just changed.

982
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:25.440
<v Speaker 4>Now get to work.

983
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:29.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, And so at that point you get the

984
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:31.119
<v Speaker 1>body out. They don't want him to become a martyr,

985
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:32.800
<v Speaker 1>they don't want to leave him behind. You got to

986
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:34.440
<v Speaker 1>get the body out. You got to throw the body

987
00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:36.639
<v Speaker 1>on the helicopter and get back to base or I

988
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:38.760
<v Speaker 1>guess to the aircraft carrier, right, because that's where it

989
00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:40.559
<v Speaker 1>was a thing at sea, right.

990
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:43.440
<v Speaker 6>Well, we had to call another helicopter in because we

991
00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:45.360
<v Speaker 6>have to blow the one that crash up. So we

992
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:47.559
<v Speaker 6>have to call and no one realizes this too, is

993
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:50.119
<v Speaker 6>that that's more Army pilots and another Army helicopter and

994
00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:52.800
<v Speaker 6>more Navy seals. So the heroes on that mission, the

995
00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:55.519
<v Speaker 6>Army and Seal Team six, actually rescued Seal Team six

996
00:49:55.639 --> 00:49:56.440
<v Speaker 6>on the Bin Laden raid.

997
00:49:56.519 --> 00:49:58.000
<v Speaker 4>No one ever talks about that. I'm amazed.

998
00:49:58.360 --> 00:49:59.920
<v Speaker 6>But so that's the one we got to get out of.

999
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:04.280
<v Speaker 6>So we turned the body to the first team that

1000
00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:06.440
<v Speaker 6>Krash gave them our initial helicopter. This one came in

1001
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:09.480
<v Speaker 6>to get us, and then we're leaving. And this is

1002
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:11.559
<v Speaker 6>the coolest part of the mission because we just we

1003
00:50:11.639 --> 00:50:14.880
<v Speaker 6>got his body. Now we're leieving the Pakistani's no we're here,

1004
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:16.880
<v Speaker 6>and they're definitely gonna try to shoot us down with

1005
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:19.119
<v Speaker 6>a jet that we sold them, and a jet against

1006
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:22.320
<v Speaker 6>the helicopter is a bad fight. But if we can

1007
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:25.280
<v Speaker 6>live for ninety minutes, we get fifty years. I get

1008
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:27.960
<v Speaker 6>to see my kids again. But worrying about a missile

1009
00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:29.719
<v Speaker 6>shooting me down, Isy're gonna stop it, So I'm not

1010
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:31.159
<v Speaker 6>gonna worry about it. So I just start on my

1011
00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:34.239
<v Speaker 6>stopwatch and I'm waiting for ninety minutes. If I get

1012
00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:37.199
<v Speaker 6>ninety minutes across that border, across the border into Afghanistan,

1013
00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:39.639
<v Speaker 6>we live. And I look down at my watch, It's

1014
00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:42.400
<v Speaker 6>like I spent ten minutes. I spent twenty minutes. The

1015
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:44.920
<v Speaker 6>sniper sitting next to me is the guy who rescued

1016
00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:47.320
<v Speaker 6>Richard Phillips from Smallly Pirates. Like, this is how small

1017
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:49.559
<v Speaker 6>this team is. I looked thirty minutes. Now it's spend

1018
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:51.960
<v Speaker 6>forty fifty minutes. Now it's spent fifty minutes. Got to

1019
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:55.000
<v Speaker 6>get to ninety seventy minutes. Then I start thinking you

1020
00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:57.960
<v Speaker 6>just mentioned baseball. I started thinking about a baseball game,

1021
00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:00.480
<v Speaker 6>top of the seventh watching a no hitter, like I

1022
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:02.480
<v Speaker 6>don't want to jinx this I don't want to say anything,

1023
00:51:03.039 --> 00:51:04.239
<v Speaker 6>but it's been eighty minutes.

1024
00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:05.719
<v Speaker 4>Got to get to ninety.

1025
00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:09.639
<v Speaker 6>Then I love sports analogies because it doesn't matter how

1026
00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:11.280
<v Speaker 6>you got some even a pro golfer, you had a

1027
00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:13.920
<v Speaker 6>team with you, right, So I love sports analogies. I

1028
00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:18.280
<v Speaker 6>started thinking about the greatest sporting event in American history

1029
00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:21.039
<v Speaker 6>in nineteen eighty Lake Placid, when Team USA Hockey was

1030
00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:24.880
<v Speaker 6>playing the greatest hockey team ever assembled, the Russians, the

1031
00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:28.800
<v Speaker 6>professional Russian team. We've never lost since the fifties or

1032
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:31.920
<v Speaker 6>something like that. And you have this group of college

1033
00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:34.559
<v Speaker 6>kids have no business being on the ice, but now

1034
00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:37.400
<v Speaker 6>they're winning. And it's three to four in the third period.

1035
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:40.000
<v Speaker 6>You hear the crowd ten nine ftill nervous, you know,

1036
00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:42.519
<v Speaker 6>six five, And then the pilot came over the radio.

1037
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:43.400
<v Speaker 4>This is going through my head.

1038
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:45.239
<v Speaker 6>Then the pilot comes over the radio at eighty five

1039
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:47.760
<v Speaker 6>minutes into a ninety minute flight, and he said, very calmly,

1040
00:51:48.079 --> 00:51:49.840
<v Speaker 6>all right, gentlemen, for the first time in your lives,

1041
00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:50.920
<v Speaker 6>you're gonna be happy to hear this.

1042
00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:52.280
<v Speaker 4>Welcome to Afghanistan.

1043
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:54.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, wow, yep.

1044
00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:57.280
<v Speaker 6>So we fly him down, We bring him to Jalalabad

1045
00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:00.760
<v Speaker 6>to show Admiral mccraven, who was running the mission officer I've.

1046
00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:01.039
<v Speaker 4>Ever worked for.

1047
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:03.559
<v Speaker 6>And then we showed it to the showed the body

1048
00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:06.400
<v Speaker 6>to the woman who found him, and she was she

1049
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:08.400
<v Speaker 6>she that was the only thing he did in life

1050
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:09.239
<v Speaker 6>was find him.

1051
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:09.719
<v Speaker 4>That's it.

1052
00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:12.480
<v Speaker 6>She gave up her life, no husband, no kids, seven

1053
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:15.079
<v Speaker 6>days a week for years to find him. And we

1054
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:16.880
<v Speaker 6>walked her over to his body, and I thought it

1055
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:17.199
<v Speaker 6>would have.

1056
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:18.840
<v Speaker 4>Been cool enough, this could have ended it.

1057
00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:20.559
<v Speaker 6>I pointed to his body and I said to her,

1058
00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:24.400
<v Speaker 6>is that your guy? And she looked at for second,

1059
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:26.400
<v Speaker 6>pated me on the back. He goes, well, I get

1060
00:52:26.480 --> 00:52:28.119
<v Speaker 6>I guess I'm out of an expletive job.

1061
00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:30.840
<v Speaker 4>And she just left. That was so cool.

1062
00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:33.039
<v Speaker 6>And then we flew him up to Bagram and we

1063
00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:38.039
<v Speaker 6>had to we had to show the agency it was here.

1064
00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:41.840
<v Speaker 6>And then the professional photographer and a professional scientist doing

1065
00:52:41.960 --> 00:52:44.480
<v Speaker 6>DNA confirmed and I'm standing above.

1066
00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:46.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm standing at the feet of been lawn. He's laying

1067
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:49.079
<v Speaker 4>right here. I hear President Obama. He's on TV. We're

1068
00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:49.400
<v Speaker 4>watching this.

1069
00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:51.360
<v Speaker 6>I'm eating a breakfast sandwich and he says, tonight I

1070
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:53.800
<v Speaker 6>can report to the American people and to the world

1071
00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:57.039
<v Speaker 6>the United States conducted an operation to kill Osama bin Lan,

1072
00:52:57.119 --> 00:52:59.760
<v Speaker 6>the leader of al Qaeda. I hear the President say,

1073
00:52:59.800 --> 00:53:02.719
<v Speaker 6>oh Sama bin Laden. I look at Osama bin Laden

1074
00:53:03.079 --> 00:53:05.480
<v Speaker 6>eating a breakfast sandwich, and I thought, how in the

1075
00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:09.000
<v Speaker 6>world did I get here from Butte Montana. And then

1076
00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:11.639
<v Speaker 6>we turned him over to the army. They flew him

1077
00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:13.639
<v Speaker 6>out to the carrier. I didn't see him get dumped

1078
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:15.079
<v Speaker 6>in the water. That's the story we got. And we

1079
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:17.400
<v Speaker 6>literally flew from there to Virginia Beach when we were

1080
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:18.360
<v Speaker 6>home sixteen hours later.

1081
00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Boy Rob O'Neill, Robert O'Neill is our guest. His book

1082
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:24.920
<v Speaker 1>is a New York Times bestseller, The Operator Firing the

1083
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:27.559
<v Speaker 1>Shots that killed Osama Bin Laden and My years as

1084
00:53:27.639 --> 00:53:30.320
<v Speaker 1>a Navy Seal Team Warrior. Your life is a man changed,

1085
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:34.719
<v Speaker 1>as you mentioned immediately after you put three into ben Laden.

1086
00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:37.840
<v Speaker 1>You're a marked man. Obviously there are people that want

1087
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:41.360
<v Speaker 1>to see you personally dead because of that. So tell

1088
00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:44.360
<v Speaker 1>me about your life today, precautions you have to take

1089
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:46.480
<v Speaker 1>or are you the kind of guy that says, listen,

1090
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to live my life. I did what

1091
00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:50.519
<v Speaker 1>I needed to do, and I'm not going to let

1092
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:51.480
<v Speaker 1>anybody bother me.

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00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:55.199
<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean, precautions should be there and everybody should

1094
00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:57.719
<v Speaker 6>be prepared for anything, and that's just that my role

1095
00:53:57.760 --> 00:53:59.519
<v Speaker 6>right now. I mean, I don't discuss the security.

1096
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:00.800
<v Speaker 4>I haven't play. I have a lot in place.

1097
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:03.039
<v Speaker 6>I know how to handle myself, so I'm not you know,

1098
00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:04.599
<v Speaker 6>I can take care of myself and my family, So

1099
00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:06.599
<v Speaker 6>I'm It's one of those things you don't want to

1100
00:54:06.639 --> 00:54:09.159
<v Speaker 6>get complacent just because these people don't only need to.

1101
00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:09.800
<v Speaker 4>Be right once.

1102
00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:13.119
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, I'm a target, but so is every other

1103
00:54:13.199 --> 00:54:16.480
<v Speaker 6>American and it would be a lot easier if they

1104
00:54:16.519 --> 00:54:18.760
<v Speaker 6>can get weapons into this country, which they have, by

1105
00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:20.760
<v Speaker 6>the way, over an open border for the past four years.

1106
00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:22.760
<v Speaker 6>They would much rather go to Times Square and kill

1107
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:25.039
<v Speaker 6>a bunch of people that just try to find me because.

1108
00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:26.159
<v Speaker 4>I'm a hard target.

1109
00:54:26.280 --> 00:54:27.679
<v Speaker 6>But a lot of people out there have their head

1110
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:29.719
<v Speaker 6>in the sand and don't realize that just because you're

1111
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:31.360
<v Speaker 6>not at war with someone doesn't mean they're not at

1112
00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:31.800
<v Speaker 6>war with you.

1113
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:34.920
<v Speaker 4>So I mean, yeah, I mean, but I see, I bet.

1114
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:37.239
<v Speaker 6>I was forced at a young age to get completely

1115
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:39.480
<v Speaker 6>immersed in what I call reality, and there's not a

1116
00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:41.239
<v Speaker 6>lot of that going on, especially in this country with

1117
00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:44.000
<v Speaker 6>the political landscape. So I mean, I live my life

1118
00:54:44.039 --> 00:54:46.719
<v Speaker 6>but on that too though you know a lot of

1119
00:54:46.760 --> 00:54:49.079
<v Speaker 6>political fighting that's only on the internet when you get outside,

1120
00:54:49.519 --> 00:54:51.719
<v Speaker 6>even in other countries. Because my favorite saying is it's

1121
00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:53.599
<v Speaker 6>a large planet, but it's a small world. Believe it

1122
00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:56.280
<v Speaker 6>or not, most people are actually really good. Most people

1123
00:54:56.400 --> 00:54:58.760
<v Speaker 6>just want to including in combat zones, they just want

1124
00:54:58.760 --> 00:55:00.199
<v Speaker 6>to get on with their lives and razor kid like

1125
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:00.760
<v Speaker 6>the rest of us.

1126
00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:04.360
<v Speaker 4>So I mean, you know, don't get complacent.

1127
00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:06.960
<v Speaker 6>But either there are threats, but for the majority of

1128
00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:08.920
<v Speaker 6>my life that most you know, people are just great.

1129
00:55:09.039 --> 00:55:11.360
<v Speaker 6>If you're angry at social media, put your phone down

1130
00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:12.960
<v Speaker 6>and go outside and talk to people. Go to a deli,

1131
00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:14.800
<v Speaker 6>get a sandwich, Go get some chili at highlight.

1132
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, just keep there, live your life. Understand that,

1133
00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:23.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, you could either live your life in fear

1134
00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:25.960
<v Speaker 1>or you can live your life the way we were

1135
00:55:26.039 --> 00:55:28.000
<v Speaker 1>meant to live our lives. But that doesn't mean you

1136
00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:29.599
<v Speaker 1>have to be stupid about it when you live it,

1137
00:55:29.719 --> 00:55:32.280
<v Speaker 1>I think is what you're saying. You're forty eight years old.

1138
00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Forty eight years old, now, right, what are you doing now?

1139
00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:35.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

1140
00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Besides talking about.

1141
00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:40.159
<v Speaker 4>Well, this is the best part of my life right now.

1142
00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:41.599
<v Speaker 4>We're having a bless Yeah.

1143
00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:45.480
<v Speaker 6>I host a podcast to the same name, called The Operator,

1144
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:48.320
<v Speaker 6>and I just I'm not calling myself an operator. I'm

1145
00:55:48.360 --> 00:55:50.239
<v Speaker 6>giving you my description of my life as an operator.

1146
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:52.119
<v Speaker 6>And I want to hear your life is an operator

1147
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:54.159
<v Speaker 6>and being an operator. If you're doing anything to help

1148
00:55:54.159 --> 00:55:57.039
<v Speaker 6>your family or your community, or your church or your schools,

1149
00:55:57.199 --> 00:55:57.920
<v Speaker 6>you're an operator.

1150
00:55:58.039 --> 00:55:59.039
<v Speaker 4>So I like to hear from people.

1151
00:55:59.159 --> 00:55:59.599
<v Speaker 3>So I do that.

1152
00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:03.159
<v Speaker 6>And my book The Operator, I saw on my website

1153
00:56:03.320 --> 00:56:05.280
<v Speaker 6>and I sign a lot for people because we have

1154
00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:07.519
<v Speaker 6>fun with it. Like I don't use an auto pen,

1155
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:12.199
<v Speaker 6>then I don't use plateless. I take uh, whatever you

1156
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:14.920
<v Speaker 6>want signed in the book is there's an inscription part

1157
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:17.199
<v Speaker 6>and I have put what people want. It's just fun

1158
00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:20.440
<v Speaker 6>because people like it's just awesome. It's it's not always

1159
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:21.679
<v Speaker 6>a military theme or motivation.

1160
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:23.400
<v Speaker 4>I got one the other day. It's my favorite.

1161
00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:25.800
<v Speaker 6>Some dude bought my book for his buddy as a

1162
00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:28.400
<v Speaker 6>birthday present and he had me signed Dear Jeff, you

1163
00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:30.559
<v Speaker 6>kill it selling mattresses like I killed the Loud.

1164
00:56:32.760 --> 00:56:35.039
<v Speaker 4>We have fun with me, so we have fun with that.

1165
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<v Speaker 1>That's great. Hey, Rob O'Neil, this has been a trip, man,

1166
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:43.079
<v Speaker 1>I would tell but we can do anything. Yeah, no,

1167
00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:45.320
<v Speaker 1>I believe me. I'm I'm gonna hang on to your

1168
00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:47.960
<v Speaker 1>number and and next time I'll play the Bengals theme

1169
00:56:48.199 --> 00:56:50.000
<v Speaker 1>song for you, just to uh, you know, just to

1170
00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:51.800
<v Speaker 1>get your back in the mood for everything. How about that?

1171
00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:54.760
<v Speaker 4>I can you played? You played the Bengo Girl anytime

1172
00:56:54.840 --> 00:56:55.119
<v Speaker 4>you have.

1173
00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:55.719
<v Speaker 1>A fire up?

1174
00:56:55.800 --> 00:56:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

1175
00:56:56.079 --> 00:56:59.360
<v Speaker 4>I love that song. About time the bout time for

1176
00:56:59.360 --> 00:56:59.840
<v Speaker 4>a super Bowl.

1177
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:04.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm just hey, you're telling us, you're telling us stay

1178
00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:07.039
<v Speaker 1>well and we'll we'll visit down the road.

1179
00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:09.559
<v Speaker 4>Thank you, outstand, Thanks for having me have a great day.

1180
00:57:09.639 --> 00:57:13.239
<v Speaker 1>You bet, I don't know what you've done in life.

1181
00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:17.360
<v Speaker 1>That's what he's done. One nine News Radio seven hundred

1182
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:20.559
<v Speaker 1>w WELW. You know, I thought our crowd was incredible.

1183
00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:23.800
<v Speaker 7>You know, I certainly tried to do the best that

1184
00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:26.519
<v Speaker 7>I could to share with our crowd how important they

1185
00:57:26.559 --> 00:57:30.760
<v Speaker 7>are to our success, especially down the stretch. We now

1186
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:34.280
<v Speaker 7>have four home games left, and you know tonight Tonight's

1187
00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:37.239
<v Speaker 7>crowd and yukont crowd or man, it just it doesn't

1188
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:40.519
<v Speaker 7>get any better anywhere in college basketball than how that feels.

1189
00:57:44.599 --> 00:57:54.199
<v Speaker 1>Oh hello, quiet, and I'm I'm broadcasting God, got your boy, said,

1190
00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:56.599
<v Speaker 1>got your boy? I am got your boy.

1191
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<v Speaker 8>Another one, another one goes, and another one will come

1192
00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:03.679
<v Speaker 8>into town, and they'll go and they'll come. And what's

1193
00:58:04.800 --> 00:58:06.559
<v Speaker 8>I mean everybody getting upside?

1194
00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:09.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I mean how many times does it happen?

1195
00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:09.880
<v Speaker 3>Well?

1196
00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:10.679
<v Speaker 1>Look at you see?

1197
00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:11.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

1198
00:58:11.559 --> 00:58:15.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean when you see I mean, what's Jones three

1199
00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and done? Yeah? Brian Kelly three and done? Yep, Tommy

1200
00:58:18.920 --> 00:58:21.440
<v Speaker 1>t Well probably couldn't get out of there quick enough,

1201
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:24.599
<v Speaker 1>went to the Senate right exactly. And then Fickle what

1202
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:26.920
<v Speaker 1>was fickle? He was three four and done? Yeah, it's

1203
00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:29.679
<v Speaker 1>it's and it's going to be even worse now because

1204
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:34.079
<v Speaker 1>you can you can literally buy players, and the more

1205
00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:37.119
<v Speaker 1>money you have to buy better players, the more chance

1206
00:58:37.159 --> 00:58:39.440
<v Speaker 1>you're going to have to win, which will keep the

1207
00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:42.760
<v Speaker 1>the alumni off your rear end and also give you

1208
00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:45.599
<v Speaker 1>a chance to win a national championship. Correct, So what's

1209
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:47.440
<v Speaker 1>going to happen here is you're going to have about

1210
00:58:48.280 --> 00:58:51.840
<v Speaker 1>forty schools maybe if you maybe thirty five, and they're

1211
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:54.559
<v Speaker 1>going to be the top of the sports spectrum and

1212
00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:57.239
<v Speaker 1>everybody else after that. And it may not be every

1213
00:58:57.400 --> 00:59:00.480
<v Speaker 1>SEC school or every Big twelve school, it's going to

1214
00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:02.199
<v Speaker 1>be the Kreme de la creme. That's where all this

1215
00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:02.760
<v Speaker 1>is going.

1216
00:59:03.000 --> 00:59:03.119
<v Speaker 3>Right.

1217
00:59:03.719 --> 00:59:06.519
<v Speaker 1>And if I'm saying here, you know what fool me wants,

1218
00:59:06.559 --> 00:59:09.639
<v Speaker 1>shame on me, fool me twice, shame on you, or

1219
00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:11.760
<v Speaker 1>vice versa. However, that coast, they had to know it

1220
00:59:11.880 --> 00:59:14.239
<v Speaker 1>was coming. You have to know what you deal. As

1221
00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:17.199
<v Speaker 1>they said at twelve o'clock today. You know what every

1222
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:23.480
<v Speaker 1>single jilted wife, every single cheated on white thinks. It

1223
00:59:23.519 --> 00:59:26.199
<v Speaker 1>gets a little bit better with more counseling. It doesn't.

1224
00:59:26.239 --> 00:59:29.280
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna leave. You're gonna leave just the way it is.

1225
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:32.719
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, ken Brew, I mean, I guess

1226
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:34.039
<v Speaker 1>it's Chris Mack.

1227
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:35.320
<v Speaker 4>What do you think.

1228
00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't you know, I don't know what direction to go.

1229
00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, I would think if it's offered to

1230
00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Chris Mack, he would come back, but Mack left them.

1231
00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:47.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean, loyalty in this country is dead. It died

1232
00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:48.400
<v Speaker 1>a long time ago.

1233
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<v Speaker 8>Well, like you said, it's now, it's it's nil money

1234
00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:54.760
<v Speaker 8>leading the way now. It's not whether or not your

1235
00:59:55.159 --> 00:59:58.599
<v Speaker 8>coach has won two or three national championships or ha

1236
00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:03.800
<v Speaker 8>has had success like a Sean Miller during the season

1237
01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:04.920
<v Speaker 8>end in the postseason.

1238
01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Now, it's like how much how much do you have?

1239
01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:13.599
<v Speaker 1>Every single basketball only school is at a decided disadvantage

1240
01:00:13.639 --> 01:00:18.400
<v Speaker 1>now because, right, football drives the bus. Football drives the dollars,

1241
01:00:18.440 --> 01:00:20.880
<v Speaker 1>and if you don't have football, it's going to be

1242
01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:24.000
<v Speaker 1>very difficult to generate ANIL money. The last number I

1243
01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:27.679
<v Speaker 1>saw on Xavier's ANDIL money was from two years ago.

1244
01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:32.719
<v Speaker 1>It was one million dollars total. Two years ago at

1245
01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Texas same time, you know, it was fifteen and a

1246
01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:40.159
<v Speaker 1>half million dollars. And I'm sure, Baw do you compete. Yeah,

1247
01:00:40.199 --> 01:00:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure both of those numbers have come up since then, right,

1248
01:00:43.559 --> 01:00:47.320
<v Speaker 1>But it's if you're a basketball only school, generating ANIL

1249
01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:50.440
<v Speaker 1>money to compete with a large in state school is

1250
01:00:50.519 --> 01:00:53.840
<v Speaker 1>going to be very, very difficult. Ken bruthe is stood

1251
01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:54.960
<v Speaker 1>reporters a proud service.

1252
01:00:55.000 --> 01:01:00.400
<v Speaker 8>Every local temp star heating and air conditioning dealers tapstar quality.

1253
01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:03.719
<v Speaker 8>You can feel in Cincinnati called Sheldon Bron at Bron

1254
01:01:03.800 --> 01:01:09.000
<v Speaker 8>Heating at five three three eighty five seventy seven sixty

1255
01:01:09.079 --> 01:01:14.320
<v Speaker 8>five sparks ro there you go, Roxy, wake her up.

1256
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:17.960
<v Speaker 8>So Sean Miller leaves for the second time in his career.

1257
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<v Speaker 8>He's going off to the Long Horns, replacing Rodney Terry.

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<v Speaker 8>And uh, let's see, I guess uh the Channel five

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01:01:26.119 --> 01:01:30.079
<v Speaker 8>says there was an executive chartered jet that brought in

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01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:33.639
<v Speaker 8>Chris Mack late last night to the Cincinnati area.

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01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:36.679
<v Speaker 1>Well, they got to hire somebody because the transfer portal

1262
01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:40.280
<v Speaker 1>opened today, correct. I think if that well, obviously, if

1263
01:01:40.360 --> 01:01:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Chris Mack is off of the job, he's going to take.

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<v Speaker 3>It, right.

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01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he gets his home right exactly right. Yeah,

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01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:46.880
<v Speaker 1>And you know he had a taste of the big

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01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:49.119
<v Speaker 1>time at Louisville, and you know, I think what he

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01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:51.639
<v Speaker 1>realized is what I realized when you when I went

1269
01:01:51.719 --> 01:01:55.280
<v Speaker 1>to Washington, d C. It's it's just the size of

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01:01:55.360 --> 01:01:58.079
<v Speaker 1>the pot in the poker game. It's still a poker game. Correct.

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01:01:58.199 --> 01:02:00.840
<v Speaker 1>But you know, like you know what's Saint John's did

1272
01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:02.920
<v Speaker 1>this year is going to be very difficult. You know,

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01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:07.920
<v Speaker 1>you gotta have football because that football drives the nil Bus.

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01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:11.719
<v Speaker 8>NCAA tournament update ken Brew brought to you by ACR, Gun,

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01:02:11.800 --> 01:02:15.199
<v Speaker 8>Eyed Pools and Spas call today Swim This year, Carl

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01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:16.599
<v Speaker 8>Frankie's running a special.

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01:02:17.039 --> 01:02:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Of course.

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01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:21.519
<v Speaker 8>The Kentucky Wildcats are into Sweet sixteen for the billionth

1279
01:02:21.639 --> 01:02:25.360
<v Speaker 8>time the Pope and uh, let's see, the Wildcats will

1280
01:02:25.400 --> 01:02:30.320
<v Speaker 8>face Tennessee, Tennessee at Lucas Oil Stadium Friday night, Indianapolis

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01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:31.360
<v Speaker 8>at seven forty.

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01:02:31.559 --> 01:02:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Going to be a barbecue special.

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01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:37.239
<v Speaker 8>I mean, you got Purdue playing it and against against

1284
01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:39.639
<v Speaker 8>in in Indianapolis, you got good.

1285
01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:40.039
<v Speaker 1>I bet you.

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01:02:40.119 --> 01:02:43.039
<v Speaker 8>There's people there already. Oh, they never went home, probably

1287
01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:45.360
<v Speaker 8>lined up. They haven't been home.

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01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:45.639
<v Speaker 1>Said.

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01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:49.119
<v Speaker 8>The Bearcats are getting ready to take on De Paul

1290
01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:53.599
<v Speaker 8>a week from tomorrow in college basketball Crown Tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>How many players are going to be left to play?

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01:02:55.559 --> 01:02:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. The portal open today. They could lose

1293
01:02:57.960 --> 01:03:00.719
<v Speaker 1>three four players. Correct Red's update.

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01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:03.480
<v Speaker 8>Speaking of closing things out, the Reds that closed out

1295
01:03:03.519 --> 01:03:07.199
<v Speaker 8>spring training with a big win over those Guardians, uh

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01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:10.400
<v Speaker 8>to twelve seventeen and one who's healthy.

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01:03:10.639 --> 01:03:12.079
<v Speaker 1>They don't have steer, No.

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01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:17.559
<v Speaker 8>Alexis das is out with that hamstring inflammation whatever that means.

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01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:20.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they got a number of guys that may

1300
01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:23.920
<v Speaker 1>not answer the bell for them, right, so the other

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01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:28.320
<v Speaker 1>guy too. I mean you, here's what I think. Does

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01:03:28.360 --> 01:03:30.119
<v Speaker 1>anybody here what I think I think?

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01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:30.199
<v Speaker 3>So?

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01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, here's what I think I think. If this team

1305
01:03:34.039 --> 01:03:37.880
<v Speaker 1>doesn't stay healthy, it's chances of being good are exponentially

1306
01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:42.360
<v Speaker 1>worse because they can't afford injury. Now, a steers an

1307
01:03:42.400 --> 01:03:43.880
<v Speaker 1>injury that you know is gonna be tough for them

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01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:48.679
<v Speaker 1>to navigate. Yep, A shoulder impingement. I hate those. I

1309
01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:50.840
<v Speaker 1>don't even know what it is. It's what a nerve.

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01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:53.239
<v Speaker 1>It's like a pinch nerve. Yeah, I have one of

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01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:56.480
<v Speaker 1>those in my neck cloth. I'm still suffering the consequences.

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<v Speaker 8>Ouch, okay, in the consequence all right, and has saved

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01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:05.559
<v Speaker 8>me a call to Doc Hollywood. Let's see the Reds

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01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:08.800
<v Speaker 8>are in action tomorrow night in the gym city or

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01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:12.280
<v Speaker 8>they will play an exhibition game against the Dayton Dragons. Wow,

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01:04:12.400 --> 01:04:14.400
<v Speaker 8>that would be a big deal. I hope they'll be packed.

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01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:17.760
<v Speaker 8>It's sold out and ready to go. Six forty I

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01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:20.119
<v Speaker 8>think a game time or something six o'clock or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully it won't be as cold tomorrow night as it

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01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:24.559
<v Speaker 1>was last night. That's actually a problem.

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<v Speaker 8>Let's see Bengals update brought to you by Good Spirits

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01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:32.199
<v Speaker 8>and Party Town, thirteen convenient locations in northern Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>One month from today, ken Brew, they're going to start

1324
01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:36.800
<v Speaker 1>drinking if they don't get some guards.

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01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:42.440
<v Speaker 8>One month from today, the National Football League Draft takes place,

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01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:43.719
<v Speaker 8>is it cleef?

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01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:50.079
<v Speaker 1>Green Bay? I'm sorry Green Bay? Okay? And then Bengals

1328
01:04:50.119 --> 01:04:53.199
<v Speaker 1>picked seventeenth. Yeah, they have who draft picks? Well they

1329
01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:55.960
<v Speaker 1>take they have six draft picks. They need two guards.

1330
01:04:56.559 --> 01:04:59.400
<v Speaker 1>They need at least one more linebacker probably, and they

1331
01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:01.840
<v Speaker 1>need at least one more safety and probably two safeties.

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<v Speaker 8>See the University of Illinois Lucas Byrd, a LaSalle graduate,

1333
01:05:06.519 --> 01:05:09.519
<v Speaker 8>won an NCAA wrestling championship over the weekend at one

1334
01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:11.239
<v Speaker 8>hundred and thirty three pound class.

1335
01:05:12.039 --> 01:05:13.760
<v Speaker 1>So congratulations that young man.

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<v Speaker 8>And then the United States women's national soccer team coming

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01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:19.039
<v Speaker 8>back to the Queens City this summer.

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01:05:19.159 --> 01:05:19.599
<v Speaker 1>Ken Brew.

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01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:22.639
<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, they're going to face the Republic of Ireland

1340
01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:26.119
<v Speaker 8>at t QL Stadium on June twenty ninth.

1341
01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh, the Irish will be out in four.

1342
01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:31.400
<v Speaker 8>It's the third matchup played by the US women's national

1343
01:05:31.480 --> 01:05:33.840
<v Speaker 8>team at the stadium since it open in twenty twenty one.

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01:05:34.079 --> 01:05:37.199
<v Speaker 1>I'll want some World Cup tune ups Men's World Cup

1345
01:05:37.239 --> 01:05:37.880
<v Speaker 1>tune ups here.

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01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:42.920
<v Speaker 8>It's still unclear whether but where they'll be part of

1347
01:05:42.960 --> 01:05:47.239
<v Speaker 8>the match day roster. But of course Cincinnati natives Rose

1348
01:05:47.320 --> 01:05:51.920
<v Speaker 8>Level and Aubrey Kingsbury both have played on the national team.

1349
01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:55.480
<v Speaker 8>Of course level from Mount Notre Dame. Kingsbury is Saint

1350
01:05:55.679 --> 01:05:56.360
<v Speaker 8>Ursula Grad.

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01:05:56.559 --> 01:05:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know what we were We were in

1352
01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:01.000
<v Speaker 1>the running for World Cup matches right right, the Men's

1353
01:06:01.039 --> 01:06:03.920
<v Speaker 1>World Cup matches. Correct. We didn't get any. No, and

1354
01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:06.440
<v Speaker 1>now we're being to all, well, maybe they'll use TQL

1355
01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:08.239
<v Speaker 1>as a training side or something. I want if we

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01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:10.559
<v Speaker 1>can't get a World Cup match. I guess there's some

1357
01:06:10.679 --> 01:06:12.480
<v Speaker 1>World Cup college. I don't know what it is. That

1358
01:06:12.880 --> 01:06:16.000
<v Speaker 1>there's something that's coming here, but it's not the World Cup. Correct.

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01:06:16.360 --> 01:06:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Why don't we get like some friendlies leading up to

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01:06:18.840 --> 01:06:21.360
<v Speaker 1>the World Cup, like the United States against England. Do

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01:06:21.400 --> 01:06:23.159
<v Speaker 1>you realize what that place would be like if the

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01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:28.559
<v Speaker 1>US plate or Argentina or Brazil. Oh, that place would

1363
01:06:28.599 --> 01:06:29.159
<v Speaker 1>be crazy.

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01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:29.519
<v Speaker 9>Oh.

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01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:32.320
<v Speaker 1>I want something like that. I'd have to double it.

1366
01:06:32.480 --> 01:06:36.119
<v Speaker 1>They'd have to double the attendance as a consolation prize.

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01:06:36.159 --> 01:06:38.719
<v Speaker 1>I want the US men's team leading up to the

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01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:42.559
<v Speaker 1>World Cup doing tune up matches against these teams, and

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01:06:42.679 --> 01:06:46.159
<v Speaker 1>then then when the Women's World Cup comes back to

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01:06:46.280 --> 01:06:49.320
<v Speaker 1>the United States. I want Women's World Cup matches here

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<v Speaker 1>in Cincinnati, you know, dang it. As as my uncle

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01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Fred used to say, dang it, we just ought to

1373
01:06:55.960 --> 01:07:00.840
<v Speaker 1>make it happen. And then he passed out. Well, well,

1374
01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:03.000
<v Speaker 1>hopefully they'll make it happen. There can brew. You never

1375
01:07:03.119 --> 01:07:05.559
<v Speaker 1>know if you listen. If you don't plan a seed,

1376
01:07:05.880 --> 01:07:09.800
<v Speaker 1>a flower won't grow. That's that's correct. What else you

1377
01:07:09.840 --> 01:07:12.480
<v Speaker 1>got said? That's about it. I went to the Cyclones

1378
01:07:12.519 --> 01:07:16.039
<v Speaker 1>game yesterday. Yeah, a big overtime win. Huh yeah, big

1379
01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:20.760
<v Speaker 1>overtime the k Wings nine thousand, six hundred plus, how

1380
01:07:20.760 --> 01:07:21.119
<v Speaker 1>about that?

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01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:22.239
<v Speaker 4>Very nice?

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01:07:22.719 --> 01:07:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Nine thousand were there to get Bluey's picture. But other

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01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:29.599
<v Speaker 1>than that, you was, no, it was some guy that

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01:07:29.679 --> 01:07:32.480
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't blue It was some guy a costume. No,

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01:07:32.599 --> 01:07:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean you should have you know, you and the wife.

1386
01:07:35.079 --> 01:07:36.880
<v Speaker 1>But there you're Gon put up on the mantle at home,

1387
01:07:37.599 --> 01:07:40.639
<v Speaker 1>right next to that picture with uh. What other photos

1388
01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:43.559
<v Speaker 1>you have? Well, some of the some of the rock

1389
01:07:43.639 --> 01:07:45.599
<v Speaker 1>stars that you've been hanging out with. Well I got

1390
01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:48.559
<v Speaker 1>some of those two. But yeah, you know, I had

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01:07:48.599 --> 01:07:51.480
<v Speaker 1>some grandson that wanted to go see Bluey okay, and

1392
01:07:51.800 --> 01:07:53.320
<v Speaker 1>he saw him. He said, I said, you want your

1393
01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:55.719
<v Speaker 1>picture taken with him? And he said no, I said,

1394
01:07:55.760 --> 01:07:58.920
<v Speaker 1>that's great. Plus, the line to get your picture taken

1395
01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:02.320
<v Speaker 1>with blue probably all down there against the wall, all

1396
01:08:02.360 --> 01:08:06.119
<v Speaker 1>the way around passed Bluey, and halfway back the other way.

1397
01:08:06.840 --> 01:08:09.119
<v Speaker 1>When I left that game after the after they want,

1398
01:08:09.159 --> 01:08:11.880
<v Speaker 1>they were still in line, still halfway around the area

1399
01:08:11.960 --> 01:08:14.360
<v Speaker 1>to get get their picture taken with some dude in

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01:08:14.360 --> 01:08:14.960
<v Speaker 1>the costume.

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01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:15.599
<v Speaker 3>So I saw.

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01:08:15.719 --> 01:08:18.640
<v Speaker 1>I tried to get what would prevent me or you

1403
01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:22.000
<v Speaker 1>or anybody from getting the costume of somebody that's really

1404
01:08:22.039 --> 01:08:24.720
<v Speaker 1>popular with the kids, and like going out in the

1405
01:08:24.760 --> 01:08:28.119
<v Speaker 1>middle of your street and charging like a dollars to

1406
01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:29.920
<v Speaker 1>get your your autograph from the costume.

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01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:33.119
<v Speaker 8>Get a van and you get a van. A couple

1408
01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:34.800
<v Speaker 8>of guys get a van and you in the back.

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01:08:34.880 --> 01:08:37.079
<v Speaker 8>And now all of a sudden there's blue walking down

1410
01:08:37.119 --> 01:08:40.079
<v Speaker 8>the middle of the street. People go crazy, But it's

1411
01:08:40.119 --> 01:08:42.119
<v Speaker 8>me in a costume. Now, now, this was free film

1412
01:08:42.279 --> 01:08:45.800
<v Speaker 8>like Santa Claus. This was free yesterday. You had to

1413
01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:47.159
<v Speaker 8>buy a ticket to the hockey game.

1414
01:08:47.760 --> 01:08:50.760
<v Speaker 1>It was free. That's good. But there was like one

1415
01:08:50.880 --> 01:08:54.079
<v Speaker 1>guy as Bluey, and that's all the kids were there

1416
01:08:54.119 --> 01:08:56.279
<v Speaker 1>to see. I'll figure this is great. I went and

1417
01:08:56.520 --> 01:08:58.760
<v Speaker 1>watched the hockey game. It was It was phenomenal. It

1418
01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:01.880
<v Speaker 1>was a two one win and overtime, Yeah, one and overtime.

1419
01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:05.399
<v Speaker 1>Mister Uh, let's see was u? His name is Uh?

1420
01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know any of these people.

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01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:10.279
<v Speaker 8>Chazz Sharp, chas want a breakaway, mister sharp on a

1422
01:09:10.359 --> 01:09:12.199
<v Speaker 8>breakaway and overtime wins it.

1423
01:09:12.520 --> 01:09:14.319
<v Speaker 1>They haven't won a lot of games this year, but

1424
01:09:14.640 --> 01:09:17.119
<v Speaker 1>they haven't. That was good too. But I was just thinking,

1425
01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:19.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, you could, Who's to say who's somebody is?

1426
01:09:20.600 --> 01:09:20.640
<v Speaker 3>Like?

1427
01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Who's to say it's who's good? Who's mister Red Lakes,

1428
01:09:24.840 --> 01:09:27.239
<v Speaker 1>It's White's, who's Rosy? Red?

1429
01:09:27.760 --> 01:09:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Go?

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01:09:28.720 --> 01:09:32.199
<v Speaker 1>You know who's who's mister Red? Who's who they? Who's

1431
01:09:32.279 --> 01:09:35.199
<v Speaker 1>Gary the Lion of FC. I'm just saying you can

1432
01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:37.439
<v Speaker 1>get a costume and be anybody in this day. What

1433
01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:40.760
<v Speaker 1>about the blue Blob? I don't know what that is,

1434
01:09:40.840 --> 01:09:44.279
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think I you're putting that thing on. Anyways,

1435
01:09:44.279 --> 01:09:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Say get us out of the Stewge Report. You'll be

1436
01:09:46.079 --> 01:09:47.560
<v Speaker 1>back here in a few minutes and we can talk

1437
01:09:47.680 --> 01:09:48.720
<v Speaker 1>more about this nonsense.

1438
01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:51.279
<v Speaker 8>Ken Brew and honor of just a few days until

1439
01:09:51.359 --> 01:09:53.680
<v Speaker 8>it starts to count in Major League Baseball. With the

1440
01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:56.960
<v Speaker 8>Reds and the Giants on Thursday, we leave you with

1441
01:09:57.079 --> 01:10:00.359
<v Speaker 8>the immortal words of the stud report.

1442
01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:10.039
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, the whole town's batty about sitting Sonnati was a

1443
01:10:10.159 --> 01:10:11.720
<v Speaker 9>lot of tea, a lot of team.

1444
01:10:11.720 --> 01:10:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Who's singing this song?

1445
01:10:12.720 --> 01:10:12.840
<v Speaker 4>Thin?

1446
01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:15.880
<v Speaker 1>It's Gary Jason and the lady blah. I don't know

1447
01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:16.319
<v Speaker 1>who this is.

1448
01:10:16.840 --> 01:10:20.079
<v Speaker 9>How they scream, how they scream, how they scream singing?

1449
01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:26.159
<v Speaker 9>Keep bonn routing everry and they'll do that best to

1450
01:10:26.399 --> 01:10:27.239
<v Speaker 9>keep bon winny.

1451
01:10:27.479 --> 01:10:29.439
<v Speaker 1>This could be the legendary tell you all, I.

1452
01:10:31.159 --> 01:10:32.000
<v Speaker 9>Vincennati.

1453
01:10:33.640 --> 01:10:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know music, you ought to know this guy who?

1454
01:10:35.840 --> 01:10:36.720
<v Speaker 3>Yes, you know what?

1455
01:10:37.359 --> 01:10:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I think this song is like over one hundred years old.

1456
01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:42.680
<v Speaker 1>If I'm not mistaken, it's over. So were we we

1457
01:10:42.840 --> 01:10:43.720
<v Speaker 1>just you know what?

1458
01:10:43.920 --> 01:10:46.960
<v Speaker 8>I think it was yesterday or Saturday. We just had

1459
01:10:47.039 --> 01:10:49.800
<v Speaker 8>the station's birthday. What is it one hundred and three?

1460
01:10:50.399 --> 01:10:52.760
<v Speaker 8>Get yeah, one hundred and twenty three or something like that. Well,

1461
01:10:52.920 --> 01:10:56.479
<v Speaker 8>Larry Vincent might have sang that song on this radio station.

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01:10:57.479 --> 01:11:00.479
<v Speaker 8>How about that right before the Doris Show.

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01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:04.159
<v Speaker 4>You might have had that or the Twilight Zone.

1464
01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:06.920
<v Speaker 1>You never know, say you never know? That's true? Sega,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta go because I've got a I've got You're

1466
01:11:08.880 --> 01:11:10.880
<v Speaker 1>a you're a Navy seal. Sandwich. I had the guy

1467
01:11:10.960 --> 01:11:11.640
<v Speaker 1>that shot as sun.

1468
01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:12.680
<v Speaker 3>I know that.

1469
01:11:13.159 --> 01:11:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm honored to follow that guy. Well, now now I

1470
01:11:15.640 --> 01:11:17.880
<v Speaker 1>got another Navy seal and his wife coming up, because

1471
01:11:17.920 --> 01:11:20.840
<v Speaker 1>they can save your marriage. So I said, they can

1472
01:11:20.920 --> 01:11:25.680
<v Speaker 1>do everything. They can do everything. Yeah, absolutely. Seven hundred

1473
01:11:25.800 --> 01:11:41.600
<v Speaker 1>w WELW to eight is the current time in the

1474
01:11:41.640 --> 01:11:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Greater Cincinnati area two o eight and good afternoon. It's

1475
01:11:44.920 --> 01:11:46.920
<v Speaker 1>the average American and for the great American on this

1476
01:11:47.119 --> 01:11:51.880
<v Speaker 1>glorious Monday. Ah, we've seen the sun today, which leads

1477
01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:54.720
<v Speaker 1>to one to think maybe we'll see it on Thursday

1478
01:11:55.239 --> 01:11:57.680
<v Speaker 1>when we really need to see the sun. Hopefully it

1479
01:11:57.760 --> 01:12:00.600
<v Speaker 1>warms up. Hopefully we're not just being hold that to

1480
01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:04.159
<v Speaker 1>make us feel better until we get to Thursday. Because

1481
01:12:04.199 --> 01:12:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I've been down there with the flurries flying around my head.

1482
01:12:08.920 --> 01:12:11.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't want any part of that, not at all.

1483
01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:17.439
<v Speaker 1>Fifty percent of marriages into divorce. It's a fact. It's

1484
01:12:17.520 --> 01:12:19.800
<v Speaker 1>just not me making things up to tell you something

1485
01:12:19.880 --> 01:12:22.640
<v Speaker 1>that makes you feel bad. It is marriages in this

1486
01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:27.840
<v Speaker 1>day and age have a fifty to fifty shot of working. Infidelity,

1487
01:12:28.119 --> 01:12:32.319
<v Speaker 1>sexual or financial or whatever is a leading cause of

1488
01:12:32.439 --> 01:12:36.960
<v Speaker 1>why there are other stressors of course, in marriage, kids,

1489
01:12:37.239 --> 01:12:42.399
<v Speaker 1>raising kids, not agreeing on how to do that, maybe

1490
01:12:42.439 --> 01:12:45.199
<v Speaker 1>too much time outside the home, maybe one or the

1491
01:12:45.279 --> 01:12:47.279
<v Speaker 1>other spouse travels too much. There are a lot of

1492
01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:50.680
<v Speaker 1>things that can lead to divorce. But only about half

1493
01:12:50.720 --> 01:12:54.279
<v Speaker 1>the marriages in this country work anymore. Now, factor in

1494
01:12:54.319 --> 01:12:59.800
<v Speaker 1>the military and the number gets even higher, between sixty

1495
01:12:59.840 --> 01:13:04.760
<v Speaker 1>to seventy percent of military marriages and in divorce. And

1496
01:13:04.840 --> 01:13:07.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of reasons for it, the same reasons

1497
01:13:07.039 --> 01:13:09.680
<v Speaker 1>why it would exist in a non military family, but

1498
01:13:09.800 --> 01:13:13.439
<v Speaker 1>certainly there are other things as well. Separation from spouse.

1499
01:13:13.520 --> 01:13:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you're off on a thirteen month mission, maybe you're

1500
01:13:17.800 --> 01:13:21.760
<v Speaker 1>station somewhere that's far away from where your wife is living.

1501
01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:25.000
<v Speaker 1>All kinds of things can can bring stressors into a

1502
01:13:25.079 --> 01:13:31.319
<v Speaker 1>military marriage. Now, factor in combat, and factor in the

1503
01:13:31.359 --> 01:13:34.520
<v Speaker 1>stress of knowing that, regardless of what the mission is

1504
01:13:34.680 --> 01:13:38.640
<v Speaker 1>or where you're staying, there is the threat every single

1505
01:13:38.760 --> 01:13:41.319
<v Speaker 1>day that you may not come home or you may

1506
01:13:41.439 --> 01:13:44.319
<v Speaker 1>not be around for the rest of that marriage, for

1507
01:13:44.439 --> 01:13:48.079
<v Speaker 1>the rest of that spouse's life. And that leads me

1508
01:13:48.159 --> 01:13:51.239
<v Speaker 1>to my next guest, actually two guests I have had

1509
01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:55.439
<v Speaker 1>Jay Redmond Jason Redmond on my show many times. He

1510
01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:58.960
<v Speaker 1>is a decorated Navy seal, and together he and his

1511
01:13:59.039 --> 01:14:02.319
<v Speaker 1>wife have written a book. Now to understand Jay Redmond,

1512
01:14:02.359 --> 01:14:05.960
<v Speaker 1>you have to understand this, go back seventeen years. It's

1513
01:14:05.960 --> 01:14:11.399
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and seven. He's on patrol when his particular

1514
01:14:11.520 --> 01:14:14.920
<v Speaker 1>patrol was ambushed by a machine gunter's nest in Iraq.

1515
01:14:16.960 --> 01:14:18.920
<v Speaker 1>A lot of the people that were on patrol with

1516
01:14:19.039 --> 01:14:22.279
<v Speaker 1>him were killed. He was not, but he was shot

1517
01:14:22.439 --> 01:14:27.560
<v Speaker 1>several times, including through the face, requiring thirty seven thirty

1518
01:14:27.640 --> 01:14:35.039
<v Speaker 1>seven surgeries, twelve hundred stitches, and grueling years of rehab,

1519
01:14:36.600 --> 01:14:39.359
<v Speaker 1>all while his wife, Erica, was living at home and

1520
01:14:39.520 --> 01:14:44.680
<v Speaker 1>raising their three children. Yet their marriage survived. He came home,

1521
01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:50.359
<v Speaker 1>it was work, but their marriage survived. And Eric and

1522
01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:53.359
<v Speaker 1>Jason began thinking, well, wait a minute, why did it

1523
01:14:53.560 --> 01:14:58.000
<v Speaker 1>work under the most extreme circumstances for us, when just

1524
01:14:58.159 --> 01:15:01.399
<v Speaker 1>everyday people can't make a marriage work. When we had

1525
01:15:01.439 --> 01:15:04.199
<v Speaker 1>all of this going on, we made it work. Maybe

1526
01:15:04.279 --> 01:15:07.520
<v Speaker 1>what happened to us, maybe how we worked our way

1527
01:15:07.600 --> 01:15:10.279
<v Speaker 1>through it might be able to help someone else out.

1528
01:15:10.960 --> 01:15:14.199
<v Speaker 1>And so they've written a book. It's called marriage, it's

1529
01:15:14.239 --> 01:15:18.680
<v Speaker 1>called I'm Sorry, it's called Mission Invincible. Marriage, a battle

1530
01:15:18.760 --> 01:15:22.800
<v Speaker 1>tested Guide to an Enduring Relationship. It has just come out,

1531
01:15:23.720 --> 01:15:26.680
<v Speaker 1>and Jason and Erica are out on the Left Coast

1532
01:15:26.680 --> 01:15:29.159
<v Speaker 1>today and we have managed to track them down to

1533
01:15:29.239 --> 01:15:32.279
<v Speaker 1>talk about not only this book, but also how they

1534
01:15:32.439 --> 01:15:35.960
<v Speaker 1>kept things together what it looked like Jason was not

1535
01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:38.680
<v Speaker 1>going to be around much longer. So let's welcome him in.

1536
01:15:39.359 --> 01:15:42.079
<v Speaker 1>Jason and Erica, Welcome to the seven hundred w welw.

1537
01:15:42.319 --> 01:15:43.760
<v Speaker 1>How are you on this glorious Monday.

1538
01:15:44.239 --> 01:15:45.840
<v Speaker 10>Good morning, Thanks for having us.

1539
01:15:46.359 --> 01:15:51.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you're been doing great. I'm glad you're both here.

1540
01:15:51.159 --> 01:15:53.760
<v Speaker 1>I really am, because I think this is as much

1541
01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:57.000
<v Speaker 1>about Jason and what he went through and Erica and

1542
01:15:57.119 --> 01:15:59.680
<v Speaker 1>what you went through. Just give us a little background

1543
01:15:59.720 --> 01:16:02.119
<v Speaker 1>on your relationship. Where did you meet, how did you meet,

1544
01:16:02.359 --> 01:16:04.520
<v Speaker 1>and how long did you know each other before you

1545
01:16:04.560 --> 01:16:06.760
<v Speaker 1>actually got married. Erica, I'll let you handle it.

1546
01:16:09.720 --> 01:16:09.920
<v Speaker 6>Well.

1547
01:16:10.119 --> 01:16:14.800
<v Speaker 11>We were I'm originally from Louisville, Kentucky and not far

1548
01:16:14.960 --> 01:16:19.239
<v Speaker 11>from you guys right now, and he was actually training

1549
01:16:19.439 --> 01:16:21.039
<v Speaker 11>out at Fort Knox and we met.

1550
01:16:21.159 --> 01:16:22.159
<v Speaker 10>We had the long.

1551
01:16:22.079 --> 01:16:25.079
<v Speaker 11>Distance relationship for about a year and a half two

1552
01:16:25.239 --> 01:16:29.359
<v Speaker 11>years before I moved to Virginia Beach and we got married.

1553
01:16:30.279 --> 01:16:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's cool and and and uh, Jason, was it

1554
01:16:33.319 --> 01:16:34.079
<v Speaker 1>love at first sight?

1555
01:16:37.279 --> 01:16:40.359
<v Speaker 10>It was love at first sight, although in typical mail

1556
01:16:40.479 --> 01:16:42.520
<v Speaker 10>fast and I messed it up at some point. I

1557
01:16:42.640 --> 01:16:44.600
<v Speaker 10>tell some of those stories in the book. I got

1558
01:16:45.159 --> 01:16:47.920
<v Speaker 10>I got cold bed, I got commitment issues, and I

1559
01:16:48.039 --> 01:16:51.600
<v Speaker 10>broke up with Erica and and she made me work

1560
01:16:51.760 --> 01:16:53.920
<v Speaker 10>very hard to win her back, which actually I think

1561
01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:56.960
<v Speaker 10>made our marriage stronger. And uh, and then the other

1562
01:16:57.039 --> 01:17:00.359
<v Speaker 10>component of that was I told Erica, this is very

1563
01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:04.199
<v Speaker 10>difficult job to be married into, being in the military

1564
01:17:04.199 --> 01:17:07.720
<v Speaker 10>of special and special operations. But because of that, except

1565
01:17:07.760 --> 01:17:11.239
<v Speaker 10>this strong foundation for the future. We were very intentional

1566
01:17:11.359 --> 01:17:14.359
<v Speaker 10>and deliberate about how we were going to approach our

1567
01:17:14.439 --> 01:17:17.000
<v Speaker 10>marriage and we just continue to build on that through

1568
01:17:17.479 --> 01:17:20.720
<v Speaker 10>you know, now we've been together twenty six years, married

1569
01:17:20.800 --> 01:17:24.399
<v Speaker 10>twenty four and we wanted to share that with other people.

1570
01:17:24.760 --> 01:17:27.319
<v Speaker 1>So you were in training to become a Navy seal,

1571
01:17:27.439 --> 01:17:30.880
<v Speaker 1>which is intense training. These are these are the elite

1572
01:17:31.039 --> 01:17:34.079
<v Speaker 1>of our enforces. There's no question about that. You're in

1573
01:17:34.159 --> 01:17:37.840
<v Speaker 1>training for this. How long were you stateside before you

1574
01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:40.920
<v Speaker 1>had to ship off to Iraq? Did you have time

1575
01:17:40.960 --> 01:17:42.960
<v Speaker 1>to get to know each other, establish the marriage and

1576
01:17:43.039 --> 01:17:43.760
<v Speaker 1>what not Erica.

1577
01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:48.680
<v Speaker 11>We did, so he was actually already a seal at

1578
01:17:48.720 --> 01:17:51.520
<v Speaker 11>that point, but he was working in a training working

1579
01:17:51.560 --> 01:17:54.520
<v Speaker 11>in a workup, and we were very fortunate that when

1580
01:17:54.560 --> 01:17:59.079
<v Speaker 11>we got married, he actually was home doing training and

1581
01:17:59.159 --> 01:18:01.680
<v Speaker 11>actually went to school. So it really did give us

1582
01:18:02.319 --> 01:18:05.279
<v Speaker 11>a couple of years to really have that good foundation

1583
01:18:06.279 --> 01:18:10.760
<v Speaker 11>before he went to both Iraq and Afghanistan. And while

1584
01:18:10.840 --> 01:18:14.479
<v Speaker 11>we did write this book, you know, with with the military,

1585
01:18:14.720 --> 01:18:20.319
<v Speaker 11>with our protector community, fire fire law enforcement in mind,

1586
01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:24.600
<v Speaker 11>I still think that there is so there's practical applications

1587
01:18:24.680 --> 01:18:28.159
<v Speaker 11>and tips that really can be you know, I'm hoping

1588
01:18:28.199 --> 01:18:28.800
<v Speaker 11>that people are.

1589
01:18:28.800 --> 01:18:30.680
<v Speaker 3>Inspired by our story saying.

1590
01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:33.479
<v Speaker 11>If they could do this, then we can apply these

1591
01:18:33.520 --> 01:18:37.399
<v Speaker 11>things to our relationships, and this really can go beyond

1592
01:18:37.800 --> 01:18:39.479
<v Speaker 11>just just our special community.

1593
01:18:39.640 --> 01:18:43.319
<v Speaker 1>Sure, because when a spouse is a firefighter, and when

1594
01:18:43.359 --> 01:18:46.359
<v Speaker 1>a spouse is a police officer, when they say goodbye

1595
01:18:46.560 --> 01:18:49.319
<v Speaker 1>to their husband or their wife when they leave to

1596
01:18:49.359 --> 01:18:52.159
<v Speaker 1>go and do their job each day, there's no guarantee

1597
01:18:52.159 --> 01:18:55.039
<v Speaker 1>they're coming home. It's it's it could spin on a

1598
01:18:55.119 --> 01:18:57.840
<v Speaker 1>dime in most of those professions, just as it did

1599
01:18:58.079 --> 01:19:01.880
<v Speaker 1>with with with Jason, and it's countless others that served

1600
01:19:01.920 --> 01:19:05.479
<v Speaker 1>in uniform across halfway across the world. So really and truly,

1601
01:19:06.199 --> 01:19:09.520
<v Speaker 1>if you're the spouse of a first responder, if you're

1602
01:19:09.560 --> 01:19:13.199
<v Speaker 1>a spouse of a military person, we know the divorce

1603
01:19:13.279 --> 01:19:15.720
<v Speaker 1>rate is high in both instances. This might be a

1604
01:19:15.720 --> 01:19:18.439
<v Speaker 1>great blueprint to keep these not only these marriages together,

1605
01:19:18.560 --> 01:19:21.560
<v Speaker 1>but keep these friendships together. And Jason, I think anybody

1606
01:19:21.640 --> 01:19:24.159
<v Speaker 1>that's deployed halfway around the world and you've got somebody

1607
01:19:24.199 --> 01:19:26.319
<v Speaker 1>at home waiting for you, the one thing you want

1608
01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:28.199
<v Speaker 1>to do is make sure that those people that are

1609
01:19:28.279 --> 01:19:30.560
<v Speaker 1>left behind are taken care of and have as much

1610
01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:32.359
<v Speaker 1>piece of mind, peace of mind as possible.

1611
01:19:32.439 --> 01:19:36.039
<v Speaker 3>Correct, Yeah, one hundred percent.

1612
01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:37.920
<v Speaker 10>And a lot of that, you know, a lot of

1613
01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:40.199
<v Speaker 10>that is how do you run your marriage in the beginning,

1614
01:19:40.279 --> 01:19:42.920
<v Speaker 10>I mean marriage is marriage is hard. You're taking two

1615
01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:45.199
<v Speaker 10>different people and you're putting them together. And we talk

1616
01:19:45.239 --> 01:19:47.119
<v Speaker 10>about in the book you've got to learn to make

1617
01:19:47.199 --> 01:19:50.520
<v Speaker 10>it it's we not me, uh, And the foundation of

1618
01:19:50.560 --> 01:19:54.359
<v Speaker 10>that is a lot of communication. One of the biggest

1619
01:19:54.399 --> 01:19:56.960
<v Speaker 10>things that Eric and I talk about in the book is, hey,

1620
01:19:57.159 --> 01:19:59.640
<v Speaker 10>we at our combined dreams. That was a really critical

1621
01:19:59.720 --> 01:20:01.880
<v Speaker 10>thing there was we looked in the future. I knew

1622
01:20:01.960 --> 01:20:04.560
<v Speaker 10>that someday in the military would end and what did

1623
01:20:04.640 --> 01:20:06.720
<v Speaker 10>that look like. And I told they were coming to

1624
01:20:06.800 --> 01:20:09.000
<v Speaker 10>be twenty years in the seal teams and then after

1625
01:20:09.079 --> 01:20:11.880
<v Speaker 10>that we can decide where we go from there. But

1626
01:20:12.279 --> 01:20:15.279
<v Speaker 10>she also had her dreams. She was an entrepreneur. She

1627
01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:19.720
<v Speaker 10>was big into building a business and things along those line,

1628
01:20:19.760 --> 01:20:23.880
<v Speaker 10>along with running, you know, raising our kids. So there

1629
01:20:23.960 --> 01:20:27.319
<v Speaker 10>was a lot of communication always happened, and that flows

1630
01:20:27.399 --> 01:20:29.880
<v Speaker 10>throughout the entire book. And I think that's the foundation

1631
01:20:30.039 --> 01:20:33.119
<v Speaker 10>to help, especially if you're in a high risk, high

1632
01:20:33.119 --> 01:20:36.399
<v Speaker 10>stress job, to reduce that risk and have that shared

1633
01:20:36.640 --> 01:20:37.479
<v Speaker 10>those shared goals.

1634
01:20:37.640 --> 01:20:41.560
<v Speaker 1>You have three children in twenty oh seven, and Jason,

1635
01:20:41.600 --> 01:20:44.720
<v Speaker 1>you been on before with me, So just to refresh people,

1636
01:20:45.520 --> 01:20:48.680
<v Speaker 1>your patrol was ambushed by a machine gunner's nest in Iraq.

1637
01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:54.439
<v Speaker 1>You went through almost forty surgeries, countless other years of rehab.

1638
01:20:55.039 --> 01:20:58.720
<v Speaker 1>This is all transpiring in twenty oh seven, Erica. On

1639
01:20:58.920 --> 01:21:02.319
<v Speaker 1>the day that happened, you had absolutely no idea that

1640
01:21:02.439 --> 01:21:05.319
<v Speaker 1>that had happened to Jason, just tell me a little

1641
01:21:05.319 --> 01:21:08.159
<v Speaker 1>bit about handling that news, getting that news and how

1642
01:21:08.199 --> 01:21:11.720
<v Speaker 1>it not only tested you as a person, but also

1643
01:21:11.960 --> 01:21:15.800
<v Speaker 1>how that was a severe test of your marriage. Just

1644
01:21:15.880 --> 01:21:18.159
<v Speaker 1>tell me about all of that and how you handled that.

1645
01:21:19.840 --> 01:21:20.520
<v Speaker 10>Absolutely.

1646
01:21:21.119 --> 01:21:25.399
<v Speaker 11>So at the time, our kids were worth three, five

1647
01:21:25.800 --> 01:21:30.399
<v Speaker 11>and second grade, so they were they were all pretty young. Funny,

1648
01:21:30.439 --> 01:21:34.359
<v Speaker 11>we figured out that I was actually at his command

1649
01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:37.920
<v Speaker 11>when the firefight was happening, and I was at his

1650
01:21:38.039 --> 01:21:41.560
<v Speaker 11>command getting the redeployed, like them coming home briefing.

1651
01:21:42.800 --> 01:21:43.359
<v Speaker 10>So funny.

1652
01:21:43.479 --> 01:21:45.800
<v Speaker 11>They were like giving us, hey, either thing to look

1653
01:21:45.880 --> 01:21:49.359
<v Speaker 11>for stressors or different things you know, that we may encounter.

1654
01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:52.279
<v Speaker 11>And I was there just thinking, oh, you know, we're great,

1655
01:21:52.399 --> 01:21:54.520
<v Speaker 11>like we're going to adjust a fine. I was there

1656
01:21:54.600 --> 01:21:57.840
<v Speaker 11>for social hour and really just wanted to you know,

1657
01:21:57.960 --> 01:22:00.279
<v Speaker 11>the dates and the details of him coming home. So

1658
01:22:00.399 --> 01:22:03.680
<v Speaker 11>little did I know that that firefight was actually happening

1659
01:22:03.800 --> 01:22:04.680
<v Speaker 11>right at that time.

1660
01:22:05.319 --> 01:22:06.960
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I got that phone call.

1661
01:22:06.960 --> 01:22:11.399
<v Speaker 11>The next the next morning, so I was in scrambling saying,

1662
01:22:11.439 --> 01:22:13.760
<v Speaker 11>oh my goodness, what were those resources? What were all

1663
01:22:13.800 --> 01:22:15.560
<v Speaker 11>those things that they were you know that they were

1664
01:22:15.600 --> 01:22:19.680
<v Speaker 11>sharing with us the night before. But I really feel

1665
01:22:19.760 --> 01:22:23.840
<v Speaker 11>like we had had a chance to build that good foundation.

1666
01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:28.159
<v Speaker 11>We had good communication, we had trust, and you know,

1667
01:22:28.239 --> 01:22:31.000
<v Speaker 11>I think all of that was I think when adversity

1668
01:22:31.119 --> 01:22:34.560
<v Speaker 11>hit you, and in our case, it was battlefield injuries,

1669
01:22:34.680 --> 01:22:37.319
<v Speaker 11>but in so many other cases, it could be injury,

1670
01:22:37.439 --> 01:22:40.800
<v Speaker 11>it could be illness, it could be cancer. I just

1671
01:22:41.119 --> 01:22:45.119
<v Speaker 11>it's so important to have that strong foundation. And we

1672
01:22:45.239 --> 01:22:49.159
<v Speaker 11>were fortunate when adversity hit us, it actually made us,

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01:22:49.520 --> 01:22:52.960
<v Speaker 11>made us stronger and made us, you know, come out

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01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:55.039
<v Speaker 11>on the other side, you know, stronger. But if that

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01:22:55.159 --> 01:22:58.920
<v Speaker 11>foundation hadn't been there, it absolutely could have worked in

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01:22:59.000 --> 01:22:59.560
<v Speaker 11>the other way.

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01:23:00.119 --> 01:23:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Jason's a retired Navy lieutenant, eleven years as an enlisted

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01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Navy seal, ten years as a seal officer, awarded the

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01:23:07.039 --> 01:23:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Bronze Star and with Valor and the Purple Heart. Okay,

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01:23:12.199 --> 01:23:17.479
<v Speaker 1>so we go through in our daily lives trying to

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01:23:17.800 --> 01:23:21.159
<v Speaker 1>keep everything together, trying to keep finances together, trying to

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01:23:21.239 --> 01:23:23.640
<v Speaker 1>keep the family together, trying to keep our marriage together.

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01:23:24.199 --> 01:23:26.800
<v Speaker 1>And you've got some things in this book that really

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01:23:26.960 --> 01:23:30.800
<v Speaker 1>highlight how it's worked for you through so many different

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01:23:30.880 --> 01:23:34.319
<v Speaker 1>and trying times. As I look at it, the number

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01:23:34.399 --> 01:23:37.000
<v Speaker 1>one thing that seems to be a theme through the

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01:23:37.079 --> 01:23:40.520
<v Speaker 1>book is communication. That you have to talk to each other,

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01:23:40.920 --> 01:23:42.960
<v Speaker 1>that you have to know each other, that you have

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01:23:43.079 --> 01:23:45.359
<v Speaker 1>to know when someone is saying, when your spouse or

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01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:48.840
<v Speaker 1>your partner is saying something, what it means, and whether

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01:23:48.920 --> 01:23:51.039
<v Speaker 1>or not you need to jump in with advice or

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01:23:51.239 --> 01:23:53.760
<v Speaker 1>back off and just listen. But I think it all starts.

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01:23:53.880 --> 01:23:59.520
<v Speaker 1>It seems like with these marriages that succeed, it's with communication.

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01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Am I right about that?

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01:24:00.880 --> 01:24:04.119
<v Speaker 3>Jason Tenure spot on.

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01:24:04.279 --> 01:24:07.119
<v Speaker 10>I often talk about in special operations. Once, when I

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01:24:07.239 --> 01:24:09.920
<v Speaker 10>was in training, our commanding officer wanted us to design

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01:24:10.800 --> 01:24:14.039
<v Speaker 10>a new risk assessment tool. We had some complicated tools,

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01:24:14.119 --> 01:24:16.319
<v Speaker 10>and we designed this new tool that can be used

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01:24:16.399 --> 01:24:18.840
<v Speaker 10>very quickly. It's used across the seal teams.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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01:24:19.479 --> 01:24:21.239
<v Speaker 10>The number one thing, the top thing.

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01:24:21.640 --> 01:24:22.319
<v Speaker 3>Communication.

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01:24:22.920 --> 01:24:25.479
<v Speaker 10>It is what will make or break any mission and

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01:24:25.560 --> 01:24:29.000
<v Speaker 10>special operations. Our ability to communicate across the battle space

1706
01:24:29.079 --> 01:24:34.560
<v Speaker 10>and chaotic environments. Marriage is no different. Relationships are no different.

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01:24:34.680 --> 01:24:37.279
<v Speaker 10>You know, we're constantly dealing with all kinds of things.

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01:24:37.359 --> 01:24:41.279
<v Speaker 10>Can you nail their finances and jobs and life and kids?

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01:24:41.439 --> 01:24:44.159
<v Speaker 10>And you know where are we going on vacation? And

1710
01:24:44.279 --> 01:24:46.520
<v Speaker 10>we got holidays coming up? And you know, are we

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01:24:46.600 --> 01:24:49.159
<v Speaker 10>going to go out tonight or not? I mean, from

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01:24:49.199 --> 01:24:52.000
<v Speaker 10>the little things to the big things, communication is critical

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01:24:52.199 --> 01:24:55.720
<v Speaker 10>and we talk about that in the book. How for

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01:24:55.920 --> 01:24:58.640
<v Speaker 10>the most important thing is to start off making sure

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01:24:58.720 --> 01:25:02.119
<v Speaker 10>you're aligned on the big you know your values, where

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01:25:02.199 --> 01:25:05.319
<v Speaker 10>you're going. If you haven't done that in the beginning

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01:25:05.319 --> 01:25:08.279
<v Speaker 10>of your marriage, that starts to create some big challenges

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01:25:08.359 --> 01:25:10.199
<v Speaker 10>later down the road. If you get a few years

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01:25:10.239 --> 01:25:13.520
<v Speaker 10>down and you're like, wait, what do you mean every

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01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:16.359
<v Speaker 10>Christmas you want to be at your parents' house? Like, no,

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01:25:16.720 --> 01:25:22.239
<v Speaker 10>I don't do that. So that suddenly becomes these conflict points.

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01:25:22.720 --> 01:25:26.199
<v Speaker 10>Understanding that, working on that, and understanding that also it

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01:25:26.359 --> 01:25:30.119
<v Speaker 10>changes over time. We lay the books out in three sections. Mission,

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01:25:30.600 --> 01:25:33.199
<v Speaker 10>how do we establish that this is our mission? You know,

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01:25:33.319 --> 01:25:36.600
<v Speaker 10>our marriage, us together, you know, what is the foundation

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01:25:36.760 --> 01:25:39.680
<v Speaker 10>our unit, integrity, the culture of our mission if you

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01:25:39.760 --> 01:25:42.239
<v Speaker 10>will or are of our marriage. Number two is training.

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01:25:42.279 --> 01:25:45.039
<v Speaker 10>No different in the Seal Teams, we constantly trained and involved.

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01:25:45.399 --> 01:25:47.920
<v Speaker 10>You got to train in your marriage. What does that mean? Well,

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01:25:47.920 --> 01:25:50.560
<v Speaker 10>you're constantly going out, you're talking, You're making sure your

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01:25:50.600 --> 01:25:53.960
<v Speaker 10>goals and hopes and dreams and what you're working on finances,

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01:25:54.039 --> 01:25:57.279
<v Speaker 10>all that's aligned. And then number three is under conflict.

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01:25:57.399 --> 01:25:59.399
<v Speaker 10>You know, and the Seal Teams we train for those

1734
01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:01.960
<v Speaker 10>you know, God forbid moments that we get into the

1735
01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:04.079
<v Speaker 10>big firefights and when things go wrong, well, guess what

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01:26:04.279 --> 01:26:07.159
<v Speaker 10>happened to marriages too. So you have to train for

1737
01:26:07.279 --> 01:26:09.600
<v Speaker 10>those things, and you have to be ready for those things.

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01:26:09.640 --> 01:26:12.119
<v Speaker 3>And we lay all that out everybody.

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01:26:11.760 --> 01:26:14.039
<v Speaker 1>That I've told, by the way, were chatting with Jason

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01:26:14.079 --> 01:26:16.640
<v Speaker 1>and eric Are Redmond. Their book is just out Mission

1741
01:26:17.319 --> 01:26:22.119
<v Speaker 1>Invincible Marriage and how their marriage worked under perhaps the

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01:26:22.159 --> 01:26:25.279
<v Speaker 1>most stressful times you can ever imagine. Every time I

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01:26:25.439 --> 01:26:28.279
<v Speaker 1>talk to an author who does a book about his

1744
01:26:28.479 --> 01:26:31.600
<v Speaker 1>or herself, or they do something that happened in his

1745
01:26:31.760 --> 01:26:34.760
<v Speaker 1>or her life, they find out things along the way

1746
01:26:34.920 --> 01:26:37.880
<v Speaker 1>about themselves that they didn't know or didn't realize that

1747
01:26:37.960 --> 01:26:40.279
<v Speaker 1>were there maybe all along with they didn't they didn't

1748
01:26:40.279 --> 01:26:43.359
<v Speaker 1>realize it. So I'm wondering, Erica, did you discover anything

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01:26:43.399 --> 01:26:47.560
<v Speaker 1>about yourself or your marriage in writing this book Mission

1750
01:26:47.720 --> 01:26:49.000
<v Speaker 1>in Invincible Marriage?

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01:26:51.760 --> 01:26:54.640
<v Speaker 11>I mean absolutely, I mean I feel like we learned

1752
01:26:54.800 --> 01:26:59.920
<v Speaker 11>that the foundation we built really made us both readili

1753
01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:02.640
<v Speaker 11>and so whether it's you know, and I'd love to

1754
01:27:02.720 --> 01:27:06.600
<v Speaker 11>say that that his battlefield injuries was the worst thing

1755
01:27:06.720 --> 01:27:09.720
<v Speaker 11>that we had encountered, But a few years ago Jay

1756
01:27:09.960 --> 01:27:12.840
<v Speaker 11>was struggling with an illness that they couldn't figure out that.

1757
01:27:13.039 --> 01:27:14.479
<v Speaker 3>Was extremely difficult.

1758
01:27:14.600 --> 01:27:17.039
<v Speaker 11>We now are running multiple businesses together.

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01:27:17.600 --> 01:27:19.119
<v Speaker 3>That is extremely difficult.

1760
01:27:19.199 --> 01:27:21.359
<v Speaker 1>But I think that what we've learned is that.

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01:27:23.119 --> 01:27:29.039
<v Speaker 11>That foundation of trust and communication really made us a

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01:27:29.239 --> 01:27:32.119
<v Speaker 11>unit that that we we can be resilient and we

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01:27:32.239 --> 01:27:35.880
<v Speaker 11>really can conquer you know, any any adversity that comes

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01:27:35.920 --> 01:27:36.239
<v Speaker 11>our way.

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01:27:36.439 --> 01:27:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, by the way, what businesses are you running? Because

1766
01:27:38.880 --> 01:27:40.119
<v Speaker 1>I know that you were an entrepreneur?

1767
01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:41.199
<v Speaker 3>Was what what? What?

1768
01:27:41.640 --> 01:27:42.399
<v Speaker 1>What are you guys doing?

1769
01:27:42.479 --> 01:27:42.640
<v Speaker 4>Now?

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01:27:44.399 --> 01:27:49.000
<v Speaker 11>We we not only Jay speaking across the country, but

1771
01:27:49.119 --> 01:27:54.199
<v Speaker 11>we also represent other additional inspirational speakers under Eagle Right

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01:27:54.319 --> 01:27:55.319
<v Speaker 11>Speakers Network.

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01:27:56.239 --> 01:27:58.039
<v Speaker 3>We recently launched.

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01:27:57.840 --> 01:28:02.359
<v Speaker 11>A office coworking being an event center here in our

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01:28:02.479 --> 01:28:06.880
<v Speaker 11>hometown of Chesapeake, Virginia, and Jay has several other He's

1776
01:28:06.960 --> 01:28:11.520
<v Speaker 11>working on a technology company that Look that can help veterans,

1777
01:28:11.960 --> 01:28:15.039
<v Speaker 11>and also involved in the whiskey seltzer business. So we've

1778
01:28:15.279 --> 01:28:17.000
<v Speaker 11>we've got a little bit of everything going on.

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01:28:18.359 --> 01:28:23.039
<v Speaker 1>That's some diverse that's some diverse interest. Look good luck

1780
01:28:23.079 --> 01:28:25.399
<v Speaker 1>with Look good luck with The book. It is just

1781
01:28:25.479 --> 01:28:27.520
<v Speaker 1>down on the last couple of days again. It's Mission

1782
01:28:28.159 --> 01:28:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Invincible Marriage, a battle tested guide to an enduring relationship.

1783
01:28:32.079 --> 01:28:34.920
<v Speaker 1>It is written by former Navy seal Jason Redmond, his

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01:28:35.039 --> 01:28:38.199
<v Speaker 1>wife Erica and it is a real insight into what

1785
01:28:38.520 --> 01:28:41.720
<v Speaker 1>happened with them and how it can help you and

1786
01:28:41.840 --> 01:28:46.399
<v Speaker 1>hopefully keeping your marriage together. Yeah, you're in Chesapeake, Virginia.

1787
01:28:46.760 --> 01:28:49.159
<v Speaker 1>But but Jays Jason Ohio, guy, right, you got to

1788
01:28:49.159 --> 01:28:51.199
<v Speaker 1>feel pretty good about the buck guys last year, right.

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01:28:51.239 --> 01:28:55.159
<v Speaker 10>Jason, Hey, man, we brought home the Mattie's so big

1790
01:28:55.279 --> 01:28:59.039
<v Speaker 10>shout out. I was super stoked about that. And hey, Bengals,

1791
01:28:59.439 --> 01:29:01.359
<v Speaker 10>you need me, you need to bring me back. I

1792
01:29:01.479 --> 01:29:03.479
<v Speaker 10>spoke for you guys in twenty ten.

1793
01:29:03.920 --> 01:29:05.720
<v Speaker 3>We were doing good. Everything looks good.

1794
01:29:06.119 --> 01:29:08.720
<v Speaker 10>Bring me back. We need a super Bowl for the Bengals,

1795
01:29:08.840 --> 01:29:09.880
<v Speaker 10>Joe Barrow called me.

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01:29:10.399 --> 01:29:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you could do that, man, you'll be a

1797
01:29:13.399 --> 01:29:15.560
<v Speaker 1>bestseller of the rest of your life. Both of you.

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01:29:15.760 --> 01:29:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Take care of good luck, good health, and thanks for

1799
01:29:18.600 --> 01:29:24.079
<v Speaker 1>sharing your story with us. We really appreciate it. Yeah, no,

1800
01:29:24.279 --> 01:29:28.640
<v Speaker 1>you bet, you bet again. The book is Mission Invincible Marriage,

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01:29:28.840 --> 01:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>The battle Tested Guide to an Enduring Relationship, and it

1802
01:29:33.880 --> 01:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>is just out this week. It is coming up on

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01:29:38.039 --> 01:29:41.039
<v Speaker 1>two twenty six News Radio seven hundred WOLW.

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01:29:41.680 --> 01:29:45.079
<v Speaker 7>One of the most difficult, if not the most difficult

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01:29:45.159 --> 01:29:48.640
<v Speaker 7>decision that I've ever made, and it's because of the

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01:29:48.760 --> 01:29:49.760
<v Speaker 7>people that are here.

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01:29:51.359 --> 01:29:57.960
<v Speaker 6>Oh hell, hello, byet, I'm skos.

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01:29:58.000 --> 01:30:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm broadcasting in So the other thing said that coaches

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01:30:04.680 --> 01:30:07.319
<v Speaker 1>do when they're introduced at a news conference at their

1810
01:30:07.359 --> 01:30:10.920
<v Speaker 1>new school, Yes, they always have someone because it's not

1811
01:30:11.039 --> 01:30:14.439
<v Speaker 1>them run out and buy a stripe tie that is

1812
01:30:14.520 --> 01:30:17.359
<v Speaker 1>the colors of the school they're joining. You think they

1813
01:30:17.479 --> 01:30:19.119
<v Speaker 1>run out and get it. I would think that the

1814
01:30:19.199 --> 01:30:22.479
<v Speaker 1>school would have like a like, you know, closets full

1815
01:30:22.520 --> 01:30:24.600
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff. Well, you would think, I don't know

1816
01:30:24.920 --> 01:30:27.159
<v Speaker 1>what's he going to do with all those Xavior colored

1817
01:30:27.279 --> 01:30:28.159
<v Speaker 1>ties that he has.

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01:30:28.279 --> 01:30:30.239
<v Speaker 8>What happens to those Well, I guess, uh, you know,

1819
01:30:30.520 --> 01:30:32.920
<v Speaker 8>auction them off for charity or something, or I don't know.

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01:30:33.159 --> 01:30:35.600
<v Speaker 8>I'm just saying, send him over to the send him

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01:30:35.640 --> 01:30:38.960
<v Speaker 8>over to the bookstore. Got dumb twice. Savior got dumbed

1822
01:30:38.960 --> 01:30:42.319
<v Speaker 8>twice by this guy. See what happens, ken Brew. I mean,

1823
01:30:43.279 --> 01:30:44.920
<v Speaker 8>it looks like it's going to be Chris Mack, but

1824
01:30:45.079 --> 01:30:47.800
<v Speaker 8>we'll wait and see. I guess so, well, we're all

1825
01:30:47.880 --> 01:30:50.199
<v Speaker 8>on hold with bait. It if not bad breath, no

1826
01:30:50.359 --> 01:30:53.279
<v Speaker 8>doubt about that. Yes, sir ken Brew, the Stude Reporters

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01:30:53.279 --> 01:30:56.119
<v Speaker 8>apron service of your local Teme Star heat He get

1828
01:30:56.159 --> 01:31:00.159
<v Speaker 8>air conditioning dealers, tame star quality, you cond feelings. It's

1829
01:31:00.159 --> 01:31:04.039
<v Speaker 8>an enny called Stacy Heating and Air Solutions. Five one, three,

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01:31:04.359 --> 01:31:10.119
<v Speaker 8>three six seven h E A T spots.

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01:31:10.359 --> 01:31:13.479
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Roxy put the words right out of my mouth.

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01:31:13.680 --> 01:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Well let me put him back in.

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01:31:14.800 --> 01:31:18.119
<v Speaker 8>So it looks like that, of course of Sean Miller

1834
01:31:18.199 --> 01:31:21.439
<v Speaker 8>is off in the land of Longhorns, and looks like

1835
01:31:22.000 --> 01:31:24.159
<v Speaker 8>I likely that Chris Max is going to take the

1836
01:31:24.239 --> 01:31:26.039
<v Speaker 8>gig at ed Xavier.

1837
01:31:26.119 --> 01:31:28.600
<v Speaker 1>So we'll see what happens over the next few days. Now,

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01:31:28.640 --> 01:31:31.239
<v Speaker 1>I like Chris Mack. I always yes, you know, I'm

1839
01:31:31.439 --> 01:31:33.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm so. I've been around this place so long. I

1840
01:31:33.600 --> 01:31:35.159
<v Speaker 1>covered Chris Mack in high school?

1841
01:31:35.880 --> 01:31:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Is that right?

1842
01:31:36.479 --> 01:31:39.199
<v Speaker 1>How about that? I covered uh, Mick Cronin when he

1843
01:31:39.319 --> 01:31:39.960
<v Speaker 1>was in high school?

1844
01:31:40.079 --> 01:31:40.399
<v Speaker 2>Cover that?

1845
01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:40.760
<v Speaker 5>Wow?

1846
01:31:41.079 --> 01:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>How about that number when Chris was a junior at

1847
01:31:43.920 --> 01:31:46.479
<v Speaker 1>a big knee brace, big knee brace. He played his

1848
01:31:46.640 --> 01:31:50.560
<v Speaker 1>junior year like on one leg. Wow, Mick Cronan Chris Mack.

1849
01:31:50.840 --> 01:31:56.039
<v Speaker 1>He goes to x If Chris, If Mick Cronin goes

1850
01:31:56.079 --> 01:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>to Xavier, Victory Parkway may have a Herman in detour. True,

1851
01:32:03.319 --> 01:32:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that would be a seismic event. But now

1852
01:32:05.560 --> 01:32:08.479
<v Speaker 1>I remember Chris Mack. Chris Mack was a Chris Mack

1853
01:32:08.640 --> 01:32:10.880
<v Speaker 1>was a hard nosed defensive player in high school and

1854
01:32:11.079 --> 01:32:14.760
<v Speaker 1>really played great defense. Yep, really played great defense. But

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01:32:14.840 --> 01:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>that's how long I've been around, seg bet, you know

1856
01:32:17.840 --> 01:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm older. I've been around so long. I've seen fishes

1857
01:32:20.960 --> 01:32:22.920
<v Speaker 1>go in business and go out of business. That's how

1858
01:32:23.000 --> 01:32:23.760
<v Speaker 1>long I've been around.

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01:32:24.239 --> 01:32:26.760
<v Speaker 8>NCAA Tournament FDA ken Brew brought to you by a

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01:32:27.039 --> 01:32:29.960
<v Speaker 8>c R. Gunn Eye, Pools and spas call today swim

1861
01:32:30.039 --> 01:32:33.680
<v Speaker 8>this year called frank Zibel. He's running a special Frankie

1862
01:32:34.239 --> 01:32:38.720
<v Speaker 8>Kentucky sweet sixteen again after being Illinois the Pope.

1863
01:32:38.800 --> 01:32:40.720
<v Speaker 1>The white smoke is rising from the Pope.

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01:32:40.840 --> 01:32:44.920
<v Speaker 8>The Wildcats will meet SEC rival Tennessee Friday night in Indianapolis.

1865
01:32:45.439 --> 01:32:48.600
<v Speaker 8>Around that game time around seven thirty five.

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01:32:48.880 --> 01:32:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Got seven SEC teams in the sweets. Correct. The best

1867
01:32:52.960 --> 01:32:55.239
<v Speaker 1>of the bunch, though, is Florida, no doubt about it.

1868
01:32:55.720 --> 01:32:59.039
<v Speaker 8>Bearcats are getting ready for that basketball at College Basketball

1869
01:32:59.079 --> 01:33:02.680
<v Speaker 8>Crown Tourney one week from tomorrow. Ken Brew in the

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01:33:02.800 --> 01:33:09.039
<v Speaker 8>afternoon April April, the first April Fool's joke there against

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01:33:09.079 --> 01:33:10.439
<v Speaker 8>the DePaul Blue Demons.

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01:33:10.520 --> 01:33:12.960
<v Speaker 1>How many of players that are involved in that tournament

1873
01:33:13.039 --> 01:33:14.760
<v Speaker 1>are still going to be with the teams that are

1874
01:33:14.800 --> 01:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>involved in that tournament. Of course, the portal opened today.

1875
01:33:17.840 --> 01:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Will wait and see, we'll see Red's update.

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01:33:20.840 --> 01:33:22.960
<v Speaker 8>Of course, the Reds closed things out yesterday with a

1877
01:33:23.039 --> 01:33:25.319
<v Speaker 8>thirteen to two romp over the Guardians out west.

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01:33:25.960 --> 01:33:26.039
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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01:33:26.159 --> 01:33:27.319
<v Speaker 1>The boys are back in town.

1880
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<v Speaker 8>They'll take on the Dragons, the Dayton Dragons in the

1881
01:33:30.079 --> 01:33:34.920
<v Speaker 8>Gym City tomorrow night. No, No, Tyler Stevens, He's gonna

1882
01:33:35.079 --> 01:33:37.159
<v Speaker 8>h Spencer Steeer is going to start the season on

1883
01:33:37.239 --> 01:33:40.239
<v Speaker 8>the I L along with the closer, Alexis Diaz.

1884
01:33:40.960 --> 01:33:44.039
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Stevenson. I don't think Alexis Diaz was in any

1885
01:33:44.159 --> 01:33:46.840
<v Speaker 1>danger of getting the closers role. No, I don't know.

1886
01:33:46.960 --> 01:33:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean we'll have to do the spring he had.

1887
01:33:48.560 --> 01:33:51.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't sure he heck, he was never hardly out

1888
01:33:51.520 --> 01:33:51.960
<v Speaker 1>there was he?

1889
01:33:52.399 --> 01:33:52.560
<v Speaker 3>Well?

1890
01:33:52.640 --> 01:33:55.399
<v Speaker 1>No, but what he was it wasn't exactly whining. Correct.

1891
01:33:56.279 --> 01:33:58.600
<v Speaker 8>Bengals update brought to you my good Spirits, wine and

1892
01:33:59.039 --> 01:34:03.560
<v Speaker 8>party Town. Thirteen convenient locations in northern Kentucky. One month,

1893
01:34:04.239 --> 01:34:07.960
<v Speaker 8>one month ken Brew until the National Football League Draft.

1894
01:34:08.279 --> 01:34:10.399
<v Speaker 1>Man, I'll tell you what, I can't wait to get

1895
01:34:10.399 --> 01:34:13.600
<v Speaker 1>into the analysis of fifth round draft picks. That's what

1896
01:34:13.680 --> 01:34:17.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm living for. Bengals pick US seventeenth. Overall that day,

1897
01:34:17.840 --> 01:34:19.880
<v Speaker 1>seg when you want to get down and party, what

1898
01:34:20.199 --> 01:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>spirits and liquor do you use?

1899
01:34:24.239 --> 01:34:24.359
<v Speaker 7>Uh?

1900
01:34:24.560 --> 01:34:28.039
<v Speaker 1>Probably Coca Cola and doctor pepper, Is that right?

1901
01:34:28.239 --> 01:34:28.439
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

1902
01:34:28.760 --> 01:34:32.680
<v Speaker 1>You don't drink no ever, No, not even maybe just

1903
01:34:32.760 --> 01:34:35.520
<v Speaker 1>on New Year's Eve. H No, I'm usually in bed.

1904
01:34:35.960 --> 01:34:39.199
<v Speaker 1>Not not even when you and Denise are celebrating an anniversary.

1905
01:34:40.880 --> 01:34:41.359
<v Speaker 1>Probably not.

1906
01:34:41.600 --> 01:34:41.640
<v Speaker 3>No.

1907
01:34:42.199 --> 01:34:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I was a little hesitation there. No, okay, so

1908
01:34:45.479 --> 01:34:49.279
<v Speaker 1>you're a teetotler. Yeah, okay, Well that's all right. That's fine.

1909
01:34:49.560 --> 01:34:52.159
<v Speaker 8>If I if they give me something that, you know,

1910
01:34:52.319 --> 01:34:54.239
<v Speaker 8>like Budweiser shirt or something, I'll wear it.

1911
01:34:54.399 --> 01:34:54.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah.

1912
01:34:54.840 --> 01:34:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Drugs, they got a they got a because of racing

1913
01:34:58.359 --> 01:35:01.199
<v Speaker 1>drunk SEG is probably not as good as a sober

1914
01:35:01.279 --> 01:35:04.479
<v Speaker 1>sig that I haven't tested it, but I'm sure it's

1915
01:35:04.520 --> 01:35:06.640
<v Speaker 1>probably the truth. Well that's what I'm That's what I'm

1916
01:35:06.680 --> 01:35:08.520
<v Speaker 1>about to go with right now.

1917
01:35:09.159 --> 01:35:12.359
<v Speaker 8>Soccer United States women's national team returning to the Queens

1918
01:35:12.399 --> 01:35:15.399
<v Speaker 8>City this summer, fresh off of winning that Olympic gold

1919
01:35:15.439 --> 01:35:18.760
<v Speaker 8>medal in Paris, The team will play a friendly match

1920
01:35:20.920 --> 01:35:24.520
<v Speaker 8>against the Republic of Ireland at TQL Stadium on June

1921
01:35:24.560 --> 01:35:25.239
<v Speaker 8>twenty ninth.

1922
01:35:25.439 --> 01:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>We'll be the judge of that. Wait a minute, ken Brew,

1923
01:35:28.079 --> 01:35:31.479
<v Speaker 1>we have a special guest on his own show, seg Man.

1924
01:35:31.560 --> 01:35:32.880
<v Speaker 1>How are you? What are you doing here?

1925
01:35:33.319 --> 01:35:35.640
<v Speaker 12>I thought you had surgery or something. My first wife

1926
01:35:35.720 --> 01:35:38.760
<v Speaker 12>had surgery. It went well, and I'm here now.

1927
01:35:39.159 --> 01:35:41.560
<v Speaker 1>First wife, Yeah, what I.

1928
01:35:41.640 --> 01:35:44.359
<v Speaker 12>Tell her Every fifty years, I'll pick up another option.

1929
01:35:44.880 --> 01:35:47.399
<v Speaker 12>But I'm back, loud, proud and sassy with a bad

1930
01:35:47.439 --> 01:35:51.840
<v Speaker 12>attitude because of Sean Millers. Got me all that guy

1931
01:35:52.119 --> 01:35:56.039
<v Speaker 12>prostated himself like a seminary in at the cathedral in

1932
01:35:56.239 --> 01:35:58.920
<v Speaker 12>order to become the coach of Xavier. And the first

1933
01:35:59.039 --> 01:36:02.840
<v Speaker 12>chance he gets, boom, he's gone. It's got me all

1934
01:36:02.920 --> 01:36:05.960
<v Speaker 12>fired up. I don't feel good right now. My first

1935
01:36:06.039 --> 01:36:08.760
<v Speaker 12>wife's doing well. I got her home, got her position.

1936
01:36:09.119 --> 01:36:12.359
<v Speaker 12>I said, I'm going in talk to seg Man and

1937
01:36:12.920 --> 01:36:14.279
<v Speaker 12>the voice of the average man.

1938
01:36:14.520 --> 01:36:16.159
<v Speaker 1>I got a roast in the oven. I can leave

1939
01:36:16.199 --> 01:36:17.920
<v Speaker 1>now and you can sweep up till three o'clock.

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01:36:18.119 --> 01:36:20.000
<v Speaker 8>I don't know, ken Brew, he might as well. He

1941
01:36:20.119 --> 01:36:21.800
<v Speaker 8>might as well be a guest on his own show.

1942
01:36:21.880 --> 01:36:22.399
<v Speaker 1>That's a first.

1943
01:36:22.560 --> 01:36:24.640
<v Speaker 8>Well, good for you, so you picked up your wife's option.

1944
01:36:25.520 --> 01:36:27.560
<v Speaker 8>He picked up your wife's what what do you do now?

1945
01:36:28.479 --> 01:36:31.479
<v Speaker 8>A little surgery? Oh okay, Penny had the first lady had.

1946
01:36:31.359 --> 01:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>A little searcher. Okay, okay, okay. And now she's doing well.

1947
01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:36.560
<v Speaker 1>And I said, I got to come in. I missed this.

1948
01:36:36.680 --> 01:36:38.800
<v Speaker 12>So head man onsence this morning at one o'clock in

1949
01:36:38.880 --> 01:36:43.279
<v Speaker 12>the morning, she's asking for she said, put me out.

1950
01:36:43.720 --> 01:36:46.720
<v Speaker 12>She will up and saw my fish. She said, what pills?

1951
01:36:47.039 --> 01:36:47.560
<v Speaker 3>What doc?

1952
01:36:47.640 --> 01:36:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Where are those pills? Give me some perkoset, take a

1953
01:36:51.199 --> 01:36:51.800
<v Speaker 1>couple of extra.

1954
01:36:52.720 --> 01:36:55.039
<v Speaker 12>But Ken, what do you think about Sean Miller like

1955
01:36:55.119 --> 01:37:00.359
<v Speaker 12>a seminarian prostating himself and saying, take me. I'm in trouble. Hey,

1956
01:37:00.479 --> 01:37:03.560
<v Speaker 12>three to four million dollars. First chance he gets, he's

1957
01:37:03.600 --> 01:37:04.760
<v Speaker 12>out of here. What do you think about that?

1958
01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Let me just tell you this, Xavier took him back

1959
01:37:08.039 --> 01:37:11.039
<v Speaker 1>cheated on spouses. Always think it will be better with

1960
01:37:11.159 --> 01:37:15.960
<v Speaker 1>a little counselor amen. I'll tell you this, Willie. That

1961
01:37:16.039 --> 01:37:18.600
<v Speaker 1>sounds like a local weather lady. But that's a different story.

1962
01:37:18.760 --> 01:37:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I will say this, and I've said it before, I'll

1963
01:37:20.600 --> 01:37:24.319
<v Speaker 1>say it again. Ding Dong. You will always care more

1964
01:37:24.399 --> 01:37:28.960
<v Speaker 1>about teams and players than they will ever care about you. Amen.

1965
01:37:29.319 --> 01:37:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Teams and players might be your passion, but to them

1966
01:37:32.119 --> 01:37:33.279
<v Speaker 1>it's only a job.

1967
01:37:33.239 --> 01:37:37.560
<v Speaker 12>Coding my according to my sources, in Austin six years,

1968
01:37:38.159 --> 01:37:40.439
<v Speaker 12>eight million dollars a year. Now, would you go work

1969
01:37:40.479 --> 01:37:43.079
<v Speaker 12>somewhere for like fifty million dollars? Wouldn't you be loyal

1970
01:37:43.119 --> 01:37:45.319
<v Speaker 12>to the school that got you out of the garbage

1971
01:37:45.399 --> 01:37:47.279
<v Speaker 12>dump and put you in the big chair and then

1972
01:37:47.279 --> 01:37:47.880
<v Speaker 12>that someoneould come?

1973
01:37:47.960 --> 01:37:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't hell, No, I wouldn't go ken. Wouldn't you stay

1974
01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:53.520
<v Speaker 1>right here? Absolutely? I'd stay here fi ten million. I've

1975
01:37:53.640 --> 01:37:55.680
<v Speaker 1>chased money before. At the end of the rainbow, it's

1976
01:37:55.840 --> 01:37:56.880
<v Speaker 1>just money, that's right.

1977
01:37:57.119 --> 01:38:01.279
<v Speaker 12>Speaking Chase, if you've seen the vis of Jamar Chase

1978
01:38:02.279 --> 01:38:05.279
<v Speaker 12>and the great Number one in Miami and they're quarter

1979
01:38:05.439 --> 01:38:09.920
<v Speaker 12>million dollar Lamborghini's racing through the streets of Miami one

1980
01:38:10.359 --> 01:38:11.520
<v Speaker 12>and five, I think they were.

1981
01:38:11.680 --> 01:38:16.039
<v Speaker 8>I think they went to the NASCAR race down Off yesterday. Yeah,

1982
01:38:16.079 --> 01:38:18.439
<v Speaker 8>I think they think they finished fourth and fifth. The

1983
01:38:18.479 --> 01:38:21.159
<v Speaker 8>Bengals can't be happy money, time and.

1984
01:38:21.199 --> 01:38:24.159
<v Speaker 1>Money is always a bad combination. Will he time and money?

1985
01:38:24.199 --> 01:38:24.680
<v Speaker 1>They're young?

1986
01:38:24.800 --> 01:38:27.600
<v Speaker 12>They got between the three of them they have they

1987
01:38:27.640 --> 01:38:30.399
<v Speaker 12>have a half a billion dollars between the three of them.

1988
01:38:30.760 --> 01:38:35.119
<v Speaker 1>Look now that we're here, and this is kind of like, uh, yes, yes,

1989
01:38:35.279 --> 01:38:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to exactly every time you go to Florida,

1990
01:38:39.119 --> 01:38:41.199
<v Speaker 1>how much money do you come back with from the

1991
01:38:41.279 --> 01:38:44.600
<v Speaker 1>octagenarians you beat out of their retirement funds down there.

1992
01:38:44.600 --> 01:38:46.960
<v Speaker 12>The Great Bartosic and the Flying Tune as we play

1993
01:38:47.000 --> 01:38:49.920
<v Speaker 12>a dollar point game and five five ten, I've come

1994
01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:52.239
<v Speaker 12>back with an extra thirty six dollars and I feel

1995
01:38:52.319 --> 01:38:55.000
<v Speaker 12>like I feel like a big money, big money. They're

1996
01:38:55.119 --> 01:38:58.279
<v Speaker 12>changing the subjects by Sean milly Ga tour and segment

1997
01:38:58.359 --> 01:39:00.359
<v Speaker 12>told me there's a chance that Mick Crow and make

1998
01:39:00.399 --> 01:39:02.319
<v Speaker 12>coda zab no, no, no, no.

1999
01:39:03.239 --> 01:39:06.199
<v Speaker 1>You know what well Tate Baker did both years ago. Well,

2000
01:39:06.359 --> 01:39:08.920
<v Speaker 1>there'd be there would be a seismic hole on Victory

2001
01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Parkway that would prevent any Xavier fan from going there

2002
01:39:11.800 --> 01:39:17.159
<v Speaker 1>if shows up at But I got a source telling

2003
01:39:17.239 --> 01:39:21.880
<v Speaker 1>me it's not Chris Mack. What the can't say, can't say.

2004
01:39:22.199 --> 01:39:24.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's Pat Kelsey. Could be Pete Gillen,

2005
01:39:25.560 --> 01:39:31.439
<v Speaker 1>Pete Gillen, Bob Stack, bad Mada. Bring him he's a butler,

2006
01:39:31.560 --> 01:39:35.560
<v Speaker 1>so bring him back. That's what Well, I'm just saying

2007
01:39:35.600 --> 01:39:38.119
<v Speaker 1>that'd be funny. Peterel has a coach in fifteen years,

2008
01:39:38.439 --> 01:39:44.680
<v Speaker 1>what neither Sean Miller? They keep losing. Wait a minute,

2009
01:39:44.680 --> 01:39:47.159
<v Speaker 1>I heard you say on this show that you allegedly host.

2010
01:39:47.399 --> 01:39:49.079
<v Speaker 1>By the way, thank you for filling in for me.

2011
01:39:49.760 --> 01:39:53.479
<v Speaker 1>Uh the uh that you think that Sean Miller's teams

2012
01:39:53.560 --> 01:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>get better as the season goes on, And they do.

2013
01:39:56.039 --> 01:39:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Did I say that? You said that, so we must

2014
01:39:57.880 --> 01:40:00.159
<v Speaker 1>be a good coach. Oh, how'd they do in the

2015
01:40:00.239 --> 01:40:03.079
<v Speaker 1>last game? They played well, not good, They didn't do

2016
01:40:03.239 --> 01:40:04.880
<v Speaker 1>good in that game, but I mean they did get

2017
01:40:04.920 --> 01:40:06.920
<v Speaker 1>better as the season went on. The guy can coach.

2018
01:40:07.520 --> 01:40:09.680
<v Speaker 1>His loyalty is a you know, an issue, but they

2019
01:40:10.359 --> 01:40:10.880
<v Speaker 1>can coach.

2020
01:40:11.000 --> 01:40:14.079
<v Speaker 12>And the Illinois game, they were one hundred percent from

2021
01:40:14.119 --> 01:40:16.880
<v Speaker 12>the free throw line, Yeah, fifty percent from the field.

2022
01:40:17.239 --> 01:40:19.319
<v Speaker 12>They had one of their guards was eight for eight

2023
01:40:19.399 --> 01:40:21.439
<v Speaker 12>from threes, and they had forty rebounds.

2024
01:40:21.600 --> 01:40:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Now, how do you beat that team? ILLINOI then coughed

2025
01:40:24.159 --> 01:40:26.479
<v Speaker 1>it up against Kentucky. Yeah. Well, I mean the guy

2026
01:40:26.560 --> 01:40:29.039
<v Speaker 1>that gave you twenty two against Texas gave you I

2027
01:40:29.119 --> 01:40:33.199
<v Speaker 1>think two in that game against Illinois. And Zach Fremantle

2028
01:40:33.279 --> 01:40:35.920
<v Speaker 1>was a blank against Illinois. That's why that was well.

2029
01:40:36.279 --> 01:40:38.840
<v Speaker 12>I just I just have hope that maybe Sean Miller

2030
01:40:39.000 --> 01:40:41.399
<v Speaker 12>will reconsider before it's too late.

2031
01:40:41.960 --> 01:40:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Come home, honey, all is forgiven. It'll be much better

2032
01:40:45.039 --> 01:40:46.239
<v Speaker 1>with counseling. Come home.

2033
01:40:46.359 --> 01:40:48.239
<v Speaker 12>I had a choice of spending time on my first

2034
01:40:48.279 --> 01:40:51.279
<v Speaker 12>wife today or with you two, and I chose my

2035
01:40:51.439 --> 01:40:55.159
<v Speaker 12>first wife. But now she's home, resting from christ Hospital.

2036
01:40:55.239 --> 01:40:57.560
<v Speaker 12>She's doing well. Well, he just do a little cameo

2037
01:40:57.640 --> 01:41:00.920
<v Speaker 12>appearance here. I want to come in cameo commercials to do.

2038
01:41:01.000 --> 01:41:02.800
<v Speaker 12>I got ten thousand commercials.

2039
01:41:03.119 --> 01:41:05.640
<v Speaker 1>God never led a good illness to a loved one

2040
01:41:05.720 --> 01:41:07.840
<v Speaker 1>standing the way of making money. I know that's you're bought.

2041
01:41:07.960 --> 01:41:10.479
<v Speaker 1>A man's gotta be with his woman in need. I gotta,

2042
01:41:10.560 --> 01:41:12.439
<v Speaker 1>I gotta go because I gotta get Rocky in here,

2043
01:41:12.439 --> 01:41:14.600
<v Speaker 1>because I've got a couple of questions for him. Good.

2044
01:41:14.640 --> 01:41:17.479
<v Speaker 12>I'm glad segment. Please get us into then out of

2045
01:41:17.560 --> 01:41:18.600
<v Speaker 12>the Stude's Report.

2046
01:41:18.680 --> 01:41:21.600
<v Speaker 8>Will you and honor of yourself making a cameo surprise

2047
01:41:21.720 --> 01:41:25.239
<v Speaker 8>appearance this afternoon, Yes, thank you, ken Brew, You're welcome.

2048
01:41:25.359 --> 01:41:28.119
<v Speaker 1>We leave you. We leave you for the immortal words

2049
01:41:28.560 --> 01:41:42.880
<v Speaker 1>of the Stooge Report. A seven hundred WLW the climactic

2050
01:41:43.199 --> 01:41:47.760
<v Speaker 1>moment of the broadcast day is about to occur. Standing

2051
01:41:47.800 --> 01:41:50.800
<v Speaker 1>By to join me is a man whose loyalty is unbounded.

2052
01:41:50.920 --> 01:41:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Standing by to join me is a man whose money

2053
01:41:54.319 --> 01:41:57.920
<v Speaker 1>far out weighs his security. Standing by is a man

2054
01:41:58.000 --> 01:42:01.560
<v Speaker 1>who has never been bought. And so, except, of course,

2055
01:42:01.600 --> 01:42:06.600
<v Speaker 1>an NFL free agency, Let's bring in Rocket j Boyman, Rocky,

2056
01:42:06.680 --> 01:42:09.399
<v Speaker 1>how are you on this glorious Monday. I'm doing good.

2057
01:42:09.479 --> 01:42:09.640
<v Speaker 3>Ken.

2058
01:42:09.800 --> 01:42:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Is this a shot at at Sean Miller in his exodus? Yes,

2059
01:42:14.720 --> 01:42:17.399
<v Speaker 1>you said he never leave, and he left. You said

2060
01:42:17.439 --> 01:42:20.520
<v Speaker 1>on this radio station, he will never leave, and yet

2061
01:42:20.600 --> 01:42:21.079
<v Speaker 1>he leaves.

2062
01:42:21.319 --> 01:42:21.880
<v Speaker 4>It's funny.

2063
01:42:22.119 --> 01:42:25.600
<v Speaker 13>I mean there's countless soundbites of coaches talking about loyalty

2064
01:42:25.760 --> 01:42:29.119
<v Speaker 13>and playing for the you know, the the school and

2065
01:42:29.159 --> 01:42:31.800
<v Speaker 13>the alma mater and the all the players that came

2066
01:42:31.880 --> 01:42:34.199
<v Speaker 13>before them, and they're usually the first ones that are

2067
01:42:34.199 --> 01:42:35.079
<v Speaker 13>on the first ticket out.

2068
01:42:35.159 --> 01:42:38.359
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if it's a I don't think

2069
01:42:38.399 --> 01:42:39.520
<v Speaker 1>it's Sean Miller.

2070
01:42:39.760 --> 01:42:41.880
<v Speaker 13>I think it's a product of the system, and I

2071
01:42:41.920 --> 01:42:44.520
<v Speaker 13>think it's unfortunate, but it's the way it is.

2072
01:42:44.800 --> 01:42:47.840
<v Speaker 1>You know what happened, You know what Sean said, and

2073
01:42:48.039 --> 01:42:51.439
<v Speaker 1>he left. Well, show me the money and show his

2074
01:42:51.560 --> 01:42:52.359
<v Speaker 1>players the money.

2075
01:42:52.399 --> 01:42:54.319
<v Speaker 13>I think that's even more so the fact is that

2076
01:42:54.720 --> 01:42:59.039
<v Speaker 13>they have what ten to fifteen times more NIL money

2077
01:42:59.119 --> 01:42:59.720
<v Speaker 13>than Xavier does.

2078
01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:01.840
<v Speaker 1>The last number we got out of Xavier on their

2079
01:43:01.920 --> 01:43:04.840
<v Speaker 1>NIL was two years ago and it was one million

2080
01:43:04.920 --> 01:43:07.560
<v Speaker 1>dollars total in Texas two years it was fifteen and

2081
01:43:07.600 --> 01:43:10.079
<v Speaker 1>a half million, and I'm sure that number has only

2082
01:43:10.119 --> 01:43:13.479
<v Speaker 1>gone up. I contend that it will be very difficult

2083
01:43:13.640 --> 01:43:18.039
<v Speaker 1>for a non football school to ever ever compete with

2084
01:43:18.239 --> 01:43:21.279
<v Speaker 1>large state schools when it comes to great talent football.

2085
01:43:21.640 --> 01:43:25.199
<v Speaker 1>Certainly football, they don't have football teams, but basketball football

2086
01:43:25.359 --> 01:43:31.119
<v Speaker 1>drives everything. Football drives allegiant football drives NIL, buys players, players,

2087
01:43:31.199 --> 01:43:34.800
<v Speaker 1>wins championships. And all of these basketball only schools are

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<v Speaker 1>these mid these mid conference teams and pick a conference,

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<v Speaker 1>any conference, big twelve sec acc they're going to They're

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<v Speaker 1>never going to be able to compete. That's the way

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<v Speaker 1>it's going in college athletics, and it's rockets never gone back.

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<v Speaker 13>You're right, it's not going back because now the power schools,

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<v Speaker 13>especially the top power schools, know that they have the

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<v Speaker 13>abundance of money and they're not going to let that

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<v Speaker 13>chip go because they know if they recruit and they

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<v Speaker 13>have a couple of needs at a couple of positions,

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<v Speaker 13>they can go out and pay top dollar for that.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, that great player that's at a group of

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<v Speaker 13>five conference. I mean, look at the MAC and football.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean, they could never recruit four and five star

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<v Speaker 13>players at an abundance, so they had to recruit a

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<v Speaker 13>three star player and develop. And well, now that three

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<v Speaker 13>star player gets developed for two years, lots of blood,

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<v Speaker 13>sweat and tears go into that, and then they transferre

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<v Speaker 13>to a to a power for conference.

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<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, it happened to Ohio University last year with

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<v Speaker 1>their quarterback, right that work? Yeah, yeah, and he winds

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<v Speaker 1>up going to Indiana. Well, you know, fact of the

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<v Speaker 1>matter is coaches have had free reign to do whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the hell they wanted career wise forever. Now players have it.

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<v Speaker 1>So my sneaking suspicion is when this is all said

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<v Speaker 1>and done, that schools will wind up paying players more

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<v Speaker 1>than they'll pay coaches, always getting six sixty million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>for ten years whatever. I kind of think those days

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<v Speaker 1>are over. I think the money is going to go

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<v Speaker 1>to players, it's not going to go to coaches.

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<v Speaker 13>I agree, and you know, all it takes is a

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<v Speaker 13>rich donor or ten rich donors that want to say, look,

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<v Speaker 13>we don't we don't care. We just want the best players.

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<v Speaker 13>Every coach I talked to these days says, the players

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<v Speaker 13>don't care about the facilities or the new weight rooms

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<v Speaker 13>and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's what's the number. That's that's how it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be. What's on the show today, rock What do you?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you working on? What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>Why should I stay and raptured for the next three Well,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, Eddie is out, but uh again, Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>I think he still works here. I'm not sure. But

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Petralia, how about that? Trags is going to join

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<v Speaker 1>me three to six.

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<v Speaker 13>We're gonna open up the show talking to Little Xavier

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<v Speaker 13>and Sean Miller and n Io and Portal and that

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<v Speaker 13>whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And it'll be fantastic because the worst thing that can

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<v Speaker 1>happen in broadcasting is for Rocky Boyman to be left

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<v Speaker 1>alone in a studio. Damn right, damn right, have a

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<v Speaker 1>good show as seven hundred w welw