1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Broadcasting from Studio A here at proven Winns Color Choice Shrubs. 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,519 It's the Gardening Simplified Show with Stacey Hervella me, Rick 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:15,320 weisst and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Well orange, 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,679 you glad that there are orange flowers for your landscape, Stacy. 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:24,359 This is a polarizing topic, the color orange. See. I 6 00:00:24,399 --> 00:00:29,800 think orange is optimistic, enthusiastic, it's bold, it's warm, it's 7 00:00:29,839 --> 00:00:35,719 attention grabbing. But for other people it's too bright and overwhelming. 8 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:40,000 Some people have a visceral reaction to the color, tending 9 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,399 to either love it or hate it. I mean, if 10 00:00:43,439 --> 00:00:46,119 you think about it, orange can cause you to think 11 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:51,479 of road construction, barrels, prison jumpsuits, life jackets. 12 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's all good examples of orange. 13 00:00:54,399 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. I love the color orange. It's part of my 14 00:00:57,159 --> 00:01:01,200 Dutch heritage. Of course, as the Prince of Orange, William 15 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,879 of Orange became the natural leader of the Dutch uprising 16 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,879 against Spain. That was a long long time ago, but 17 00:01:09,359 --> 00:01:12,079 orange has been a symbol of national pride in the 18 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:17,480 Netherlands four years. And of course when I've visited the Netherlands, 19 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:22,920 nothing like orange, tulips or frittle areas. I love frittle 20 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,719 areas or orange frittle areas with a backdrop. Got a 21 00:01:26,719 --> 00:01:30,079 picture for our YouTube viewers on that. And of course, 22 00:01:30,159 --> 00:01:32,359 at this time of the year, the orange color and 23 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:37,719 tree leaves comes from the caratenoid pigments which are present 24 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,680 in the leaves all year long. But then, of course 25 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,000 when the green chlorophyll breaks down and fall, the days 26 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:49,040 get shorter, colder, many of the trees turn a beautiful, 27 00:01:49,359 --> 00:01:54,319 beautiful orange. I was looking at sassafras trees the other 28 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,480 day along the lake shore, just beautiful and I don't 29 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,159 know if it's a fig leaf of my imagination, but 30 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,920 it seems like the moon in October too. I was 31 00:02:02,959 --> 00:02:06,439 taking pictures over Lake Michigan the other day, almost has 32 00:02:06,519 --> 00:02:11,840 this orange color to it, so nothing like the color 33 00:02:12,159 --> 00:02:17,639 of orange in the months of October and November. Orange 34 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,520 on the color wheel sits between red and yellow. So 35 00:02:21,719 --> 00:02:26,919 the question is does orange reflect energy or caution in 36 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,680 your garden? And Stacy, for me, it's one hundred percent energy. 37 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,000 I'm a guy who loves hot weather, so I celebrate 38 00:02:34,159 --> 00:02:38,159 orange in the garden. Orange to me feels like August, 39 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,680 one of my favorite times of the year. And I 40 00:02:41,719 --> 00:02:47,479 also love mojave tangerine perse lane again because I'm a 41 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,360 retired guy, so I can look at it during the day. 42 00:02:50,719 --> 00:02:52,680 But I love the color in my landscape. 43 00:02:52,759 --> 00:02:54,719 Speaker 2: I'm too well, you know. I mean, I've said it before. 44 00:02:54,759 --> 00:02:57,520 I love hot, bright colors. And of course orange does 45 00:02:57,599 --> 00:03:01,280 have a lighter side, which would be called peach. And 46 00:03:01,319 --> 00:03:03,199 we've already done a peach show, yea, so now we're 47 00:03:03,199 --> 00:03:07,680 doing it's you know, Bossier Boulder Bigger sister. I guess 48 00:03:08,439 --> 00:03:10,919 I do love orange in the garden. I don't have 49 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,960 a lot of orange in the garden, I kind of 50 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:17,520 realized as I was thinking through it. Except for my containers, 51 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,319 my prized containers. My favorite ones are a matched set 52 00:03:22,439 --> 00:03:27,360 of bright orange glate ceramic urns. Oh and that's what 53 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,599 I usually put my vermilionaire in nice because that's a 54 00:03:30,599 --> 00:03:34,000 great combination, it's a good size. I love that those 55 00:03:34,039 --> 00:03:37,639 two plant those together. So yeah, I kind of built 56 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,120 all of my you know, containers that I have around 57 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,199 this pair of orange urns, and therefore all of my 58 00:03:45,319 --> 00:03:49,520 annuals tend to be orange, yellow, purple, or red to 59 00:03:49,599 --> 00:03:50,120 kind of go with that. 60 00:03:50,439 --> 00:03:53,479 Speaker 1: And you bring that up, Koufi a vermilionaire has got 61 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,560 to be at near the top of the list of 62 00:03:55,639 --> 00:04:00,199 orange favorites. Attracts hummingbirds to your landscape. I love that. 63 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,919 This past year I fell in love with the Inca 64 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:09,360 holland Peruvian lily or the austromerias. Now I have yet 65 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,439 to see whether or not it's gonna overwinter in my garden. 66 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:18,160 I'm hoping it does. But that color of orange is amazing. 67 00:04:18,199 --> 00:04:20,720 And as you mentioned, Stacy, there are so many different 68 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:26,360 shades of orange, from pastel colors to bright oranges, and 69 00:04:26,759 --> 00:04:31,319 of course in fall the rust brown types of orange colors, 70 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:36,120 pumpkin orange. It's a great color. I think it's playful. 71 00:04:37,079 --> 00:04:41,519 I love the pink orange color combination in the landscape 72 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,160 in summer. To me, it feels exotic, it feels like 73 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:51,519 Miami Beach. It feels tropical and playful. Orange and chartruse 74 00:04:51,759 --> 00:04:55,439 or orange and lime green can do that for me also. 75 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,160 And then in fall, something that has become very popular 76 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,959 or over the past few years is bright orange pansies 77 00:05:04,079 --> 00:05:05,199 with black pants. 78 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 2: Oh, I love that very Halloween. Yeah, it's a great 79 00:05:08,199 --> 00:05:10,120 I love orange pansies. And you know you don't see 80 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,240 the orange pansies in the spring, so much because spring 81 00:05:13,399 --> 00:05:15,920 they tend to favor the blues and purples and more 82 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:20,000 of those cool pastel colors. So it's nice that orange 83 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,120 pansies are finally having their day. They deserve it. 84 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:27,399 Speaker 1: You got it, They deserve it. Orange and navy together 85 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,680 navy blue. Of course, I love blue, but you put 86 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:36,000 navy blue with orange, it can kind of anchor the landscape. 87 00:05:36,079 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 2: No pun in the Detroit Tigers. 88 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,639 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Detroit Tigers. 89 00:05:39,639 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: You're right, that's what I always think of, what I 90 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:43,920 think of a navy at orange. 91 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: That's a good point. Orange and dark green. Pairing orange 92 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,120 with emerald green brings energy to any space. Of course, 93 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,879 orange and brown rust feels like fall. 94 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,199 Speaker 2: In the seventies and the seventies. 95 00:05:57,519 --> 00:05:59,879 Speaker 1: You're right, appliant kitchen appliants. 96 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, like I'm sure everybody in our 97 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,720 listening audience right now also has like an afghan that 98 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,040 a grandmother or great aunt or someone crocheted them in 99 00:06:11,079 --> 00:06:13,959 the seventies, and it is almost invariably orange and brown. 100 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,600 Adriana is nodding right now for the benefit of our 101 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,920 listeners because it's such a widespread phenomenon. 102 00:06:19,199 --> 00:06:23,399 Speaker 1: It's true, It's true. I think about the red, yellow 103 00:06:23,439 --> 00:06:27,160 and orange combination. And when I see red yellow orange, 104 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:32,759 I often think of solosia. There's a twisted orange coxcomb 105 00:06:33,079 --> 00:06:38,680 or solosia that's available. But that color of red, yellow 106 00:06:38,759 --> 00:06:41,879 and orange together, of course, is fiery in the landscape 107 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,000 always makes me think of silosia. 108 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,399 Speaker 2: Siloja, I would say, underutilized annual. 109 00:06:46,519 --> 00:06:47,079 Speaker 1: Yes, I agree. 110 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,319 Speaker 2: You know, it's a really cool plant, and I feel 111 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,639 like it's kind of fallen out of favor. You don't 112 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,079 really see a lot of people growing it. If you 113 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,759 get lucky, maybe at a farmer's market you might see 114 00:06:56,759 --> 00:06:59,319 the big coxcomb silosia, which I think are the cooler 115 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,360 ones over the kind of plumy ones. But those are 116 00:07:01,399 --> 00:07:04,040 great too. I mean, I love hot colors, so of 117 00:07:04,079 --> 00:07:05,000 course I love silosia. 118 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,199 Speaker 1: You bet you. In history, of course, the artist Vincent 119 00:07:09,399 --> 00:07:12,480 van Goh used a lot of orange in his paintings, 120 00:07:12,839 --> 00:07:17,279 mixing yellow and red to create unique shades. I should 121 00:07:17,319 --> 00:07:21,720 call him Vincent van grow We go way back, but 122 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,839 he liked orange, and of course with orange, the complementary 123 00:07:25,959 --> 00:07:30,240 color on a simple color wheel is blue. So in 124 00:07:30,279 --> 00:07:34,720 your landscape, if you can combine orange with blue, it 125 00:07:34,759 --> 00:07:38,000 can make quite a statement within your landscape. And in 126 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,160 segment four today will go down the list of some 127 00:07:41,319 --> 00:07:45,120 favorite orange plants that you can use in your landscape. 128 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:49,519 But again, Stacy, orange is the color of road construction barrels, 129 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:54,839 and life jackets and prison jumpsuits. Like I said, so 130 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,720 for some people they just don't want it in their. 131 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 2: Like, well, there's no hiding from orange. That's why all 132 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,680 these things that need high visibility tend to be orange, 133 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,720 because they really stand out. So that can be I 134 00:08:06,759 --> 00:08:09,959 think a problem for some people when it comes to plants, 135 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:15,079 because there is no escaping it and it will grab 136 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,000 all the attention. It could potentially be seen as you know, 137 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,319 I don't know, tacky or vulgar. I would never see 138 00:08:21,319 --> 00:08:23,800 it that way because I like bold strokes in the garden. 139 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,439 But overall, and i'll talk about this in Plants on Trial, 140 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:33,279 for hardy plants, there aren't really that many orange shrubs. 141 00:08:33,399 --> 00:08:36,519 It's true, definitely a lot of perennials, and we'll talk 142 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,519 about this later too, But overall, for orange flowering shrubs 143 00:08:40,519 --> 00:08:42,399 that are hardy for those of us in cold climates, 144 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,559 a relatively small number. If you live in a hot climate, 145 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:46,600 you're spoiled for choice. 146 00:08:46,919 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: Interesting I we'll dig deeper into that in segment four 147 00:08:50,519 --> 00:08:52,320 and look at some of those plants, because boy, this 148 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:55,559 morning I was looking at my Kodiak orange der villa, 149 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,720 and boy, that's beautiful this time. 150 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,519 Speaker 2: You know. It has been one of the reasons that 151 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,279 we had the idea to do a show based around 152 00:09:02,279 --> 00:09:06,240 orange is because I don't remember fall ever feeling quite 153 00:09:06,279 --> 00:09:08,559 so orange as it does this year. And I don't 154 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,519 know if it's because of our drought, you know, or 155 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,799 in certain it's bringing out certain pigments, but like tons 156 00:09:15,879 --> 00:09:20,480 and tons of red maples out here over this year 157 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,919 have just turned the most brilliant, beautiful, blazing orange, and 158 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,039 I just don't really remember them being quite so orange. 159 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:28,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, I don't know. 160 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,799 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it's a figment of a fig leaf of 161 00:09:31,799 --> 00:09:32,279 my imagine. 162 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: There you go, but it's gorgeous. Well, I'll tell you 163 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,879 what to tie into orange. And by the way, when 164 00:09:38,919 --> 00:09:43,039 I think of orange in the landscape, brilliant orange, I 165 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:47,000 always think of poppies and I think of tuberus pegonias. 166 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:53,840 Those two plants have some just unbelievably orange blooms. So 167 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:59,080 for today's limb a Rick, I thought, seeing we're talking 168 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:03,519 about orange. I'd make it a road construction limb a rick. 169 00:10:03,799 --> 00:10:07,480 Without you, life would be duller. Every day with you 170 00:10:07,639 --> 00:10:13,000 is fuller. You've got my attention. Even though you cause tension, Orange, 171 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,639 you glad that I'm a color. You're far from anything sterile. 172 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,919 You warn me of impending peril. I think you're hot, 173 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,559 even though used a lot as a road construction barrel. 174 00:10:26,759 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: Aw. Yeah, that was a very nice tribute to the 175 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:31,440 color orange. 176 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. I like orange. Let's see how Stacey ties 177 00:10:35,039 --> 00:10:37,879 this in in plants on trial. That's coming up next 178 00:10:37,919 --> 00:10:40,000 here on the Gardening Simplified Show. 179 00:10:45,879 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 2: Beautify your home and community with proven Winner's Color Choice 180 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,320 shrubs with over three hundred and twenty five unique varieties 181 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,360 to choose from. There's a flowering shrubber evergreen for every 182 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,480 taste and every space. Just look for the distinctive white 183 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,320 container your local garden center or learn more at proven 184 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:06,679 Winner's Color Choice dot com. Greeting's gardening friends, and welcome 185 00:11:06,759 --> 00:11:09,679 back to the Gardening Simplified Show, where we have one 186 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,519 of our color shows where we're just talking about one 187 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,600 single color and how to use it in the garden, 188 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,919 whether that is with plants or infrastructure. Containers or anything 189 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,200 like that, and that color today is orange. And you know, 190 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,600 I was thinking plants on trial. I always tried to 191 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,399 talk about one of the three hundred and fifty plus 192 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,159 proven Winter's color choice shrubs. Tell you all about it 193 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,480 so you can decide if you want to put it 194 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,480 in your garden. And so I was looking through our 195 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,679 selection of shrubs, and we do have some really great 196 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,080 orange flowers in our line. We've got Double Take orange, 197 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:47,840 We've got Happy Face orange, and there's also some roses 198 00:11:47,879 --> 00:11:50,600 of course that have orange and peachy type of colors. 199 00:11:50,639 --> 00:11:53,639 We've got orange foliage plants like you mentioned Kodiak orange. 200 00:11:54,039 --> 00:11:57,000 We've got Double Play candy corn, which is orange in spring. 201 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,480 But overall, when I was thinking about the yes, I 202 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,759 realized that our friends in hot climates are the ones 203 00:12:03,759 --> 00:12:06,840 who are really spoiled for choice when it comes to 204 00:12:06,919 --> 00:12:09,159 orange flowers. Because when I was just kind of creating a, 205 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:11,559 you know, off the top of my head list of 206 00:12:11,639 --> 00:12:15,480 orange flowers, like I was really leaning into the tender stuff, 207 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:20,799 like have you ever seen Pride of Barbados Sessalpinia pulcarama. 208 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,080 Just a beautiful plant, you see it, It's hardy down 209 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,360 to his own nine. So not party at all, basically, 210 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,440 but you'll see it, I think like in New Orleans. 211 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,960 You'll see it obviously in the very southern, most warm 212 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:37,279 parts of the kind of us. Just an absolutely gorgeous plant. 213 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,159 It is in the mean family, and the flowers are 214 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,840 orange and red and have these long stamens. Some people 215 00:12:44,879 --> 00:12:47,000 call it peacock flower, even though it's all orange and 216 00:12:47,039 --> 00:12:50,039 red and it has this fine foliage. It's just a 217 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,840 spectacle in a sight to behold when it's in bloom. 218 00:12:53,159 --> 00:12:56,639 Tropical Hibiscus, so many orange tropical hibiscus, especially in the 219 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,639 Hollywood hibiscus line. Tacoma. We have chick lit orange tacoma, 220 00:13:00,639 --> 00:13:02,399 which is a plant that I grew this year in 221 00:13:02,519 --> 00:13:09,279 my annuals. Great plant for hummingbirds. Lantana extra Boogainvillia, Crossandra, 222 00:13:09,799 --> 00:13:12,720 Osmanthus fragrance. There's just so many orange plants. 223 00:13:12,879 --> 00:13:13,879 Speaker 1: Bird of Paradise. 224 00:13:14,039 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 2: Bird of Paradise great, one of. 225 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: My favorites when I go to a tropical region. 226 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Strelitzia. So if you live in a warm climate, 227 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,919 plenty of options for orange. But if you live in 228 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:28,080 a colder climate, uh, you're a little bit more limited 229 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:33,039 in what you can grow, and I wanted to take 230 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,679 a different obviously already named a bunch of our plants 231 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,600 that do have orange in them, but today's plant on 232 00:13:38,639 --> 00:13:42,639 trial is something that's a little bit different. It's also 233 00:13:42,759 --> 00:13:49,000 fairly new. It is berry box pyrocomialies. Now you remember 234 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:55,519 pyrocanther r oh sold in the right. So Pyracantha also 235 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,720 known as firethorn, which what an awful common name. Whoever 236 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:04,159 came up with that was not in my marketing. It 237 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:09,080 was so popular, like maybe in the eighties and nineties. Yeah, 238 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,519 and you know, people grew it. It had thorns on it, obviously, 239 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,360 so in spring it would bloom with white flowers and 240 00:14:17,399 --> 00:14:21,000 then those would turn into red berries, looking a bit 241 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,240 like a mountain ash, which it's related to because they're 242 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:26,159 in the same family, the rose family, And so it 243 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,440 was really those berries that it was known for. Now, 244 00:14:30,519 --> 00:14:37,200 I personally have a very fraught relationship with Pyrocantha because 245 00:14:38,159 --> 00:14:41,639 this is really horrible, So a virture ears if you must. 246 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,519 But when I was working as a landscaper in college 247 00:14:44,519 --> 00:14:49,200 in the summer, someone had a big pyracantha against their 248 00:14:49,279 --> 00:14:52,720 wall at the entrance to their condo, and I was 249 00:14:52,759 --> 00:14:57,759 trimming it with heads trimmers, and I cut in half 250 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,120 a huge moth that I did not know was in there. 251 00:15:01,159 --> 00:15:02,519 Of course, I mean, of course I didn't know that 252 00:15:02,559 --> 00:15:04,679 it was in there, and so I'm just going with 253 00:15:04,759 --> 00:15:07,840 the with the hedge tremors, and then this thing starts 254 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,799 flopping and I had just cut I couldn't even tell 255 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,679 you what kind of like one of those really big 256 00:15:11,759 --> 00:15:16,279 hairy moths. So that's what I always think of. I 257 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:20,440 kind of have this like traumatic response to two pyracantha. 258 00:15:20,559 --> 00:15:24,279 But this isn't a pyracantha. This is a pyrocomialise. And 259 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,279 what that means that it is a hybrid between Pyracantha 260 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:34,080 and a warm climate evergreen known as Osteomilees. And what 261 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,919 that cross does is it conserves all of the great 262 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:45,080 features of Pyracantha, with those numerous white flowers in the 263 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,399 spring that turn into numerous orange berries in the summer 264 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,720 and fall with a dwarf habit. So now instead of 265 00:15:53,799 --> 00:15:57,519 having that you know, ten foot tall pyracantha that some 266 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,399 you know, college landscaper has to come along and slaughter 267 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,000 a moth in, you have just like a little one 268 00:16:04,039 --> 00:16:05,960 that you can put anywhere in your landscape. And it 269 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,080 doesn't ever need trimming. 270 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: Beautiful. 271 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it gets to be about two to three 272 00:16:10,279 --> 00:16:13,399 and a half feet tall and wide. It is hardy 273 00:16:13,759 --> 00:16:16,639 down to We list it as hardy down to USDA 274 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,799 Zone seven with six B in parentheses. We have had 275 00:16:20,919 --> 00:16:25,279 good survival here in West Michigan, but I always couch 276 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,200 that for other Zone six B gardeners with the fact 277 00:16:28,279 --> 00:16:31,320 that we do have a little bit miles or winters 278 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,159 because of our proximity to Lake Michigan, and we have 279 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,759 reliable snow cover. Because this is an evergreen, that snowcover 280 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:43,360 can be really really important in helping that foliage survive 281 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,440 the winter because it's got the insallation of the snow. 282 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,919 Whereas if you're in like a Missouri or Kansas USDA 283 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,799 Zone six B and you have really open, exposed winters, 284 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,960 it might not be such a great choice. Then I 285 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,480 would say it's more of a USDA Zone seven. So 286 00:16:58,879 --> 00:17:02,480 the asta Ostia made it smaller but a little bit 287 00:17:02,519 --> 00:17:05,119 less heardier, but it still has a lot of the 288 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,839 great features of a pyracantha, which is to say, I 289 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,680 think it has even more flowers than your standard pyrocantha, 290 00:17:11,319 --> 00:17:15,200 and they're really cool because they're quite small, but very numerous. 291 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,440 They start out white, and then as each individual florette ages, 292 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,920 it turns pink. So it's really like kind of a 293 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,079 multicolor effect with the yellow stamens. It's really really pretty. 294 00:17:26,759 --> 00:17:29,279 And then those become green berries, and as the season 295 00:17:29,319 --> 00:17:33,880 goes on, they become orange berries, and it's a really 296 00:17:34,079 --> 00:17:37,880 cool effect. And again, because it does flower so numerously, 297 00:17:38,039 --> 00:17:42,240 this thing is just absolutely a little ball of bright 298 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,160 berries by the time fall rolls around. Now here's another 299 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,720 really cool thing about this plant. It's an orange show. 300 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,079 So the berries are orange right now for Halloween, so perfect. 301 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,839 As it starts to get a little bit colder in 302 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,920 the coming months, it will turn to red. So it's 303 00:17:57,039 --> 00:18:02,200 like a multi holiday plant. Orange in time for Halloween, holidays, 304 00:18:02,319 --> 00:18:05,000 bread and time for Christmas. It's kind of like a 305 00:18:05,039 --> 00:18:05,519 win win. 306 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:10,559 Speaker 1: Now, do birds like the berries on it as much 307 00:18:10,599 --> 00:18:14,559 as I recall them liking the berries on Piratekantha? So 308 00:18:14,839 --> 00:18:16,960 I remember birds getting drunk? 309 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, because they wait until they're softened and 310 00:18:21,079 --> 00:18:23,720 fermented at the end of the season. And that's really 311 00:18:23,799 --> 00:18:25,359 a win win. Okay, not because you can watch the 312 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,480 birds get drunk, because they do get drunk because sometimes 313 00:18:27,519 --> 00:18:30,000 they fall out of the tree. Usually they're okay when 314 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,400 they sober up. But so the good thing about that situation, though, 315 00:18:35,519 --> 00:18:37,720 is that they don't eat the berries in the middle 316 00:18:37,759 --> 00:18:40,359 of the season when you can't even enjoy them. You 317 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,960 can actually let enjoy them all season, and then by 318 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,279 the time they've been frozen thought, frozen thought frozen thought. 319 00:18:45,279 --> 00:18:47,960 By the time February March rolls around, they're fermenting on 320 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,240 the tree and you don't need them anymore because by 321 00:18:50,279 --> 00:18:53,000 then you're you know, so deathtails are coming up, right, 322 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,200 So everybody's happy, and it's just it's a it's a 323 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,759 really interesting plant now it is. It does still have thorns. 324 00:18:58,799 --> 00:19:00,000 I mean, we have to go back to the fact 325 00:19:00,039 --> 00:19:04,039 that Pyrocantha has that name firethorn because it is thorny. 326 00:19:04,839 --> 00:19:07,799 It's not like the big, super sharp thorns. But the 327 00:19:07,799 --> 00:19:10,759 cool thing about this compared to Pyrocantha, which again reaches 328 00:19:10,759 --> 00:19:13,599 ten to twelve feet tall and wide, because this is 329 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,559 staying in that two to three and a half foot 330 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,279 range as long as you cite it properly, you never 331 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,359 really have to prune it to have to deal with 332 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,119 those thorns, and you. 333 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: Don't have to provide some kind of structure, solid structure 334 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,880 like you had to with pyro. 335 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 2: Cant absolutely, so Pyrocantha always needed to have some sort 336 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,920 of lattice type structure. Yeah, this just grows like a 337 00:19:35,079 --> 00:19:39,400 nice little cascading ball kind of shape. It does not 338 00:19:39,599 --> 00:19:42,519 need a pollinator, so that's always a bonus too, because 339 00:19:42,519 --> 00:19:44,359 you don't need to have some sort of separate plant 340 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,480 that you have to go by and find it's self fruitful. 341 00:19:47,079 --> 00:19:49,079 So you only need one, but of course you might 342 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:53,920 want more. Yeah, that's confusing. Yeah, so this is self fruitful. 343 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,119 You only need one in the foliage. So I said, 344 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:01,640 it's an evergreen, and the foliage is a narrow and 345 00:20:01,799 --> 00:20:04,279 very glossy and leathery, so it really has a very 346 00:20:04,319 --> 00:20:08,000 different look than a lot of things in the landscape. 347 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,839 And I think it's just a very very landscape worthy plant. 348 00:20:11,319 --> 00:20:14,079 If you live in USDA Zone six B, again, maybe 349 00:20:14,079 --> 00:20:16,440 a protected spot you can give it a try, but 350 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,559 definitely if you're in zones seven through nine. This is 351 00:20:19,559 --> 00:20:24,279 a great, unexpected, really new choice for the landscape that 352 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,480 provides great interest in spring actually year round because it 353 00:20:28,599 --> 00:20:31,839 is an evergreen. Now, whether it is deer resistant, I 354 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,279 don't know, I don't know it has thorns, but of course, 355 00:20:35,319 --> 00:20:39,680 as we all know, roses have thorns and deer adore them, 356 00:20:40,079 --> 00:20:42,559 and it is also in the rose family. So my 357 00:20:42,759 --> 00:20:46,559 general guidance for people who are dealing with deer and 358 00:20:46,599 --> 00:20:49,039 are wondering if something new is deer resistant, if it's 359 00:20:49,079 --> 00:20:52,160 in the rose family, I would normally just say probably 360 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,480 not dear resistant. So don't have any firsthand experience with 361 00:20:55,519 --> 00:20:59,720 that yet, but I have heard that the deer love 362 00:20:59,839 --> 00:21:01,960 plant in the rose ac so much because they're high 363 00:21:02,039 --> 00:21:06,160 vitamin C, so they are undeterred by the thorns or 364 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,839 anything else like that because they're like, oh, this is 365 00:21:07,839 --> 00:21:10,880 so nutritious. I'm just gonna, you know, get prickled in 366 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,839 my mouth and eat it anyway because I gotta do it. 367 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:18,599 So that is berry box pyrocomiies, again a little bit 368 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,559 of a different plant. It's new and there's a lot 369 00:21:21,599 --> 00:21:23,480 of interest. So I would also look forward in the 370 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,079 future as a holiday decor plant, not having to worry 371 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,000 about it as a landscape plant so much, but just 372 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:31,559 to enjoy in the winter. There's a lot of potential 373 00:21:31,559 --> 00:21:32,960 for this one. So if you didn't join us on 374 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,240 YouTube to see what it looks like. Make sure you 375 00:21:35,319 --> 00:21:38,359 visit proven Winter's Color Choice dot Com and take a look. 376 00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:40,599 We're going to take a little break and then when 377 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,279 we come back, we're opening up the mailbag, so stay 378 00:21:42,319 --> 00:21:52,319 tuned at Proven Winters Color Choice Shrubs. We know that 379 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,440 a better landscape starts with a better shrub. Our team 380 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,640 of experts tests and evaluates all of our flowering shrubs 381 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,480 and evergreens for eight to ten years to ensure they 382 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:06,400 outperform what's already on the market. For easycare, reliable, beautiful shrubs. 383 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,559 To accentuate your home and express your personal style, look 384 00:22:09,599 --> 00:22:12,440 for Proven Winners Shrubs in the distinctive white container at 385 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,079 your local garden center, or learn more at proven Winner's 386 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:20,440 Color Choice dot com. Greetings gardening friends, and welcome back 387 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,319 to the Gardening Simplified Show, where it is our time 388 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,119 and pleasure to help you with your gardening questions, quandaries 389 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,319 and conundrums or celebrations. We always like to say, because 390 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:35,079 you know, not everyone has fellow gardening friends in their life. 391 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,240 It can get excited about little things that maybe other 392 00:22:37,279 --> 00:22:38,960 people in your life are like, what why are you 393 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,519 excited about that? I don't understand? And it's always good 394 00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:44,440 to have gardening friends anyway, because you can. 395 00:22:44,319 --> 00:22:46,079 Speaker 1: Share plants right exactly. 396 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 2: You know, it's a it's a big split, your big opportunity, 397 00:22:51,319 --> 00:22:52,960 but we're always happy to hear from you. You can reach 398 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,119 us the Gardening Simplified on air dot com or if 399 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,960 you are watching us on YouTube. I'll just leave a 400 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,319 comment and we answer all of those questions that are 401 00:23:00,319 --> 00:23:03,039 on there, and if it's a good question that's easy 402 00:23:03,079 --> 00:23:04,880 to answer on the air, well, then we might just 403 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,119 add you to that list as well. So lots of 404 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,839 ways to get in touch with us, even though of 405 00:23:09,839 --> 00:23:14,000 course the gardening season is wound down, if not winding 406 00:23:14,079 --> 00:23:17,400 down for most of us. You know, even in hot climates, 407 00:23:17,599 --> 00:23:19,720 these do go dormant, so you kind of get a 408 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,279 little bit of a rest there. But thinking ahead to 409 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,640 next year, you know, we. 410 00:23:24,599 --> 00:23:27,839 Speaker 1: Dream and ponder three hundred and sixty five days out 411 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:28,559 of the year, and you. 412 00:23:28,559 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 2: Know, since we are here in about mid November, it 413 00:23:32,759 --> 00:23:35,440 is always worth saying if you have bulbs and your 414 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,240 ground is not frozen, yes you can still plant them. 415 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,000 I always want to get that in there because I 416 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,279 don't think we're doing a bulb show this year. I 417 00:23:41,319 --> 00:23:44,319 will probably be planting my bulbs Thanksgiving weekend kind of 418 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:45,440 a little tradition for me. 419 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,599 Speaker 1: So I've planted them as late as Christmas. 420 00:23:48,839 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 2: You said, you've been out there with a pickax in 421 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,200 a headlight, like an old miner, except bulbs. Your richness 422 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:55,759 is bulbs. 423 00:23:55,839 --> 00:23:59,079 Speaker 1: Sheep, close out bulbs. You put them in the ground. Yeah, 424 00:23:59,200 --> 00:23:59,960 do what you gotta do. 425 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,079 Speaker 2: That's how you increase your collection. All right, So what 426 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,400 do we got in the mailbag today? 427 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: Nita writes to us In March of twenty twenty three, 428 00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:10,240 I planted a bare root, dwarf flat, wonderful peach tree 429 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,440 in my Zone six pe garden in southeast Kansas. Either 430 00:24:14,519 --> 00:24:16,839 there was a mix up or it's really happy, but 431 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,799 it's huge. I trimmed it hard this spring, as I 432 00:24:19,839 --> 00:24:22,880 wanted a small fruit tree I could pick fruit from 433 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,720 without kneeding a ladder. It's doubled in size this summer. 434 00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:30,799 The trunk's four inch in diameter. It's never flowered. I'm 435 00:24:30,839 --> 00:24:34,839 worried it won't be able to tolerate a severe trim 436 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,920 if I cut it back to make it small. Could 437 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,920 I trim like pillarting the branches back to where I 438 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,440 cut last year? Is it possible to get fruit and 439 00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:45,480 keep it small. 440 00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. So the challenge here, Nita, is the same challenge 441 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:56,119 with any with pruning any berry or fruit bearing plant. 442 00:24:56,839 --> 00:25:00,440 Normally these plants flower on old wood, and if a 443 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,039 plant flowers on old wood, you would do that pruning 444 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,559 after a flower, so like a perfect example would be 445 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,160 like a forsythia or a lilac. The trouble is, if 446 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,480 you cut off the flowers, you cut off the potential 447 00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:16,000 for the fruit to form, which makes pruning or cutting 448 00:25:16,039 --> 00:25:18,319 back anything that's fruiting, whether it is an edible fruit 449 00:25:18,319 --> 00:25:20,400 tree or an ornamental fruit tree, just like the berry 450 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,880 box I just discussed in plants on trial or a 451 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,240 holly or a kelicarpa or anything like that, is yeah, 452 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,000 there's really no good time to prene it. You can't 453 00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:33,839 trim it like you would, you know, like an evergreen 454 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,039 hedge or something like that to keep it small. And 455 00:25:36,079 --> 00:25:39,519 that's a real challenge what I would encourage you to do. 456 00:25:39,559 --> 00:25:41,680 Whether it was a mix up, I can't tell you. 457 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,640 It's all possible a lot of times. When you have 458 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,039 a dwarf fruit tree, the reason it is dwarf is 459 00:25:48,079 --> 00:25:50,759 because it was on a dwarfing rootstock, so the plant 460 00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:53,200 was grafted. Perhaps there was a mix up in the 461 00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:55,839 rootstock or something along those lines. It's hard to say, 462 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,279 and I don't know enough about this specific variety to say. 463 00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:03,079 What I would recommend for Unita is that you look 464 00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:08,200 up the pruning technique of espalier. So normally, an espalier 465 00:26:08,839 --> 00:26:10,640 is a plant that you are growing up against a 466 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,440 celid surface like a house or a fence or something 467 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,759 like that, and you grow it so it's basically flat. 468 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,119 But because it espalier plants are intended to stay within 469 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:25,079 these very specific parameters, they are basically topped and then 470 00:26:25,319 --> 00:26:29,200 their energy only goes into those lateral branches that comprise 471 00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:32,400 the actual espalier itself. And that's what you're going to 472 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,079 need to do, if you're going to need to establish 473 00:26:35,079 --> 00:26:38,319 a basic framework at the height that you want it 474 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,160 to be and then basically cut off pretty much anything 475 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,000 else so that you're kind of just building these thick, 476 00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:48,759 heavy branches that will bear your peaches without them going, 477 00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:51,200 you know, fourteen or fifteen feet up in the air. 478 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,359 Look it up. It's fairly simple. It is a process 479 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,559 that you will need to repeat year after year after 480 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,319 year to make sure it stays that way, but you 481 00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:02,559 can't trim it. You can't pollart it because pilarting would 482 00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:04,640 mean cutting it back every single year, and that will 483 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:10,000 eliminate its ability to ever set the fruit. In peach trees, 484 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,720 I would say, as far as fruit goes, fruit trees 485 00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:15,519 go are one of the more ornamental varieties. The foliage 486 00:27:15,559 --> 00:27:18,559 is really quite interesting, but a peach tree that's not 487 00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:22,519 peaching is probably not having around. 488 00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: Highly desired nita. I'd suggest you follow Stacy's advice, and 489 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,759 that is pruning after flowering. That's when I would do 490 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,240 the pruning. And being in Zone six B, one of 491 00:27:36,279 --> 00:27:39,920 our big worries, of course, is in spring hard frost 492 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,480 when peaches tend to get zapp and watching the weather forecast, 493 00:27:44,519 --> 00:27:47,440 so prune it. Go ahead and prune it hard, but 494 00:27:47,559 --> 00:27:49,160 do it after it's done. 495 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 2: Blooming right, and avoid trimming like a regular like you would. Headshareser. 496 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,559 This is more of aloppers and hand pruner's type of job. 497 00:27:57,079 --> 00:28:00,759 Speaker 1: Pat shares an interesting photo and ask what is this? 498 00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:03,440 I found this growing on a honeysuckle at the back 499 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,680 of our property here in Grand Rapids while cutting back 500 00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:10,599 some grape vines. My guess is its missile toe, but 501 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,880 it's not native to this area. However, we winter in 502 00:28:14,079 --> 00:28:17,400 Texas where it thrives, and when we return there's always 503 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,599 a few pine needles, sweet gum palls, and other residue 504 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,960 around the hood and windshield area of our car. Is 505 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,839 it possible we brought seedback within the residue that the 506 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,680 wind could have carried to the host plant. Interesting? 507 00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 2: Yes, it is interesting, and it is not missletoe. 508 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,279 Speaker 1: Highly unlikely. 509 00:28:37,599 --> 00:28:40,559 Speaker 2: No, no, in missletoe. It's worth mentioning as we especially 510 00:28:40,599 --> 00:28:44,400 as we head into the holiday season. Mistletoe spreads not 511 00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:48,599 by wind but by the berries, and the berries are very, 512 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,960 very sticky. So when birds eat those beautiful red berries, 513 00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:55,400 they're like, oh crud, this thing is stuck to my beak. 514 00:28:55,519 --> 00:28:58,200 I guess I better go wipe it off on a branch, 515 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,119 and in so doing they actually plant the missletoe seed 516 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,240 into the crack of a branch and start a new 517 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,599 missletoe colony. 518 00:29:05,799 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm just envisioning a bird saying. 519 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 2: That, No, well, yeah, what happens all the time. You're 520 00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:11,599 just like, oh, well, they can't get this thing off 521 00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:13,920 my beak. It's so annoying. You got to go find 522 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,240 a tree to wipe it off on so it doesn't 523 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:17,279 spread by to. 524 00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: Go ahead. 525 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,359 Speaker 2: What you have is actually a gall that is formed 526 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,799 by a the ohso appropriately named honeysuckle aphid. So not 527 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,680 surprising there. It is a honeysuckle plant that Pat has. 528 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,759 And there there's a photo here on YouTube if you 529 00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:37,079 want to look at it. And so basically what it 530 00:29:37,119 --> 00:29:40,119 looks like is that, yeah, the it was growing normal 531 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,480 and then all of a sudden there's just this proliferation 532 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,160 of growth and it's pink and it looks different. But 533 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,240 it's actually a gall or a witch's broom. And galls 534 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,480 can be caused by all sorts of different things. You know, 535 00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:57,599 there's moss, there's wasps, there's bacteria. It's it's there. They're 536 00:29:57,599 --> 00:30:01,599 actually quite fascinating. Gulls are If you want to, you know, 537 00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:05,599 have some fun topic of conversation for the Thanksgiving table 538 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:12,480 coming up, just do some research into galls. And I mean, yeah, 539 00:30:12,599 --> 00:30:14,279 but in this case it is caused by the ephit 540 00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:18,279 and the aphid feeds on it, and it's saliva causes 541 00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:21,200 the growth to just go bananas like this and make 542 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,640 these big witches brooms. It will not repair itself. It's 543 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,160 not really a huge deal. The honeysuckle ef it obviously 544 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,480 causes this, but it's not like, oh, it's you know, 545 00:30:29,519 --> 00:30:33,680 honeysuckles are pretty indestructible by and large. As far as 546 00:30:33,759 --> 00:30:37,839 I know, it's primarily an issue of the Japanese invasive honeysuckles, 547 00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:42,039 not you know, the decorative honeysuckles like Arkinsley's Ghost or 548 00:30:42,119 --> 00:30:46,839 you know, Sensation or Major Wheeler, all of those decorative ones. 549 00:30:46,839 --> 00:30:48,079 As far as I know, it doesn't really get that 550 00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:49,759 and you don't actually see the aph it itself. It's 551 00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:52,359 very small. If it's probably long gone by the time 552 00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:54,440 you see this, I would recommend that you cut it off. 553 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,119 It is unlikely to flower, and like I said, it 554 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,599 won't kind of alleviate itself on its own. But yeah, 555 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,880 you've been blessed by the honeysuckle aphid and now you 556 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,319 have a botanical anomaly to show for it. 557 00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:09,559 Speaker 1: Oh the gall of those aphits and writes to us 558 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,599 Hi Rick and Stacey. I purchased a Kinsley's Ghost honeysuckle, 559 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,359 but it does not bloom. I'm in zone seven. I 560 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,480 purchase the plant from Proven Winters. Can you advise me 561 00:31:19,519 --> 00:31:22,039 on how to get the beautiful flowers that I see 562 00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:23,400 on other plants. 563 00:31:23,559 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: You know, I wanted to answer Anne's question here because 564 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,240 I think it's really useful for all people who have 565 00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:32,519 bought something and been disappointed by it not flowering, you know, 566 00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:36,240 in a timely manner. And there is a quick three 567 00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:39,720 part diagnosis for you if you're wondering why something isn't flowering. 568 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,559 The number one reason that things do not flower is 569 00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:46,079 improper pruning, if they were pruned at the wrong time, 570 00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:48,920 and that takes off the flowers. And by pruning I 571 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,519 do mean humans as well as deer or any number 572 00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:54,200 of other critters that might nibble off your plants. So 573 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,599 that's the most common reason that I see. Number two 574 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,920 most common reason is too much shade. If a sun 575 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,039 loving plant is in too much shade, they just don't 576 00:32:04,039 --> 00:32:06,759 set as many flowers, and therefore they sometimes they don't 577 00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:08,599 send any flowers at all. If they're very sensitive, some 578 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,319 plants are a little bit more amenable. Number three maturity. 579 00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:15,839 A lot of especially when we talk about woody plants, 580 00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:18,960 need to be at a certain age before they will flower. 581 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,559 Otherwise they're putting all of their resources into growing roots 582 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,519 in their new home and not so much into growing 583 00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:28,559 leaves and subsequently flowers. Flowers take a lot of a 584 00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:31,640 plant's energy to produce, so if that energy is going 585 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,400 to something that's more crucial at that time, it won't 586 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,240 put it into that Your plant and you send a 587 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,200 picture looks healthy and beautiful. I think it just needs 588 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,799 a little bit more time to be able to get big, 589 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,680 especially if you start with a little quart sized plant, 590 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,319 which is what is mostly sold online. If you go 591 00:32:47,319 --> 00:32:49,000 to the garden center and buy a three gallon, you're 592 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,559 probably gonna get flowers that second year. If you're starting smaller, 593 00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:54,920 it's going to take a couple of extra years to 594 00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:57,799 get up to size, but you can enjoy those years 595 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,359 watching your hard work pay off. So thank you all 596 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,039 so much for your questions. We're going to take a 597 00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:04,400 little break and when we come back, we're talking our 598 00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:12,880 favorite orange plants, so please don't miss it. Thanks for 599 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,640 listening to The Gardening Simplified podcast, brought to you by 600 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,079 Proven Winners color Choice Shrubs. Our award winning flowering shrubs 601 00:33:19,079 --> 00:33:21,880 and evergreens are trialed and tested by experts with your 602 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,000 success in mind. Learn more at Proven Winners color Choice 603 00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:27,359 dot com. 604 00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:31,359 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Gardening simplify show as we celebrate 605 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,480 the color orange and stacy, how about a fun fact 606 00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:37,720 on the color orange. The shade of orange on the 607 00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:43,880 Golden gate Bridge is International orange, which protects against rust 608 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:50,000 from the ocean salt and moisture, and from the region's fog. Obviously, 609 00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:52,200 you don't want to run into that bridge. So the 610 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:58,200 Golden gate Bridge painted an international orange. And the color 611 00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:02,720 was chosen because of the the frequent problems with visibility 612 00:34:02,839 --> 00:34:06,240 and fog in the San Francisco area, so it's safer 613 00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:09,440 for ships to see. And of course it complements the 614 00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:15,039 natural surroundings and the blue sky the ocean. I mean, 615 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:21,320 it's gorgeous. The color was originally a primer that the 616 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:28,679 Bridges consulting architect Irving Morrow, advocated to keep forest esthetic 617 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,159 and functional benefits. Interesting, Yeah, I thought that that was. 618 00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 2: In Save the color paint too. 619 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:41,519 Speaker 1: You got it, You get it? Okay, So orange flowers 620 00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:45,840 in the landscape during Plants on Trial, you mentioned double 621 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,440 take orange. That's a Quint's a quince. 622 00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 2: Yes, I should have probably said that. 623 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 1: Well, it's fine, but my point here is that is 624 00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:59,119 just such a stunning color when those quints are in 625 00:34:59,199 --> 00:35:02,960 bloom in pots in the garden center. People are drawn 626 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:03,320 to it. 627 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 2: They are. And you know, I love the Double Take 628 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,480 Quin series because they are flowering shrubs of colors that 629 00:35:09,519 --> 00:35:11,960 you don't really see in spring. You know, we see 630 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,920 a lot of yellow, we see a lot of pink, 631 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,599 and olten mills are perfectly wonderful. But I love Double 632 00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:21,000 Take scarlet, that bright lipstick red. I love Double Take Orange, 633 00:35:21,039 --> 00:35:24,920 that bright, bright, vivid orange. And I have also heard 634 00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:28,800 that the Double Take Orange attracts Baltimore orioles, oh wow, 635 00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:31,679 because they love orange things. Yes they do. I mean, 636 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,840 it's a very strange phenomenon, but that's why people put 637 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,119 oranges out for them, because they love orange. 638 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: I love it when they're out there in the landscape Baltimore. 639 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,760 Speaker 2: Rowland, Yes, yeah no, and when Double Take orange, yeah. 640 00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:48,559 Speaker 1: Double tank orange. This past summer, I was at Walter's 641 00:35:48,639 --> 00:35:53,760 Gardens proven Winters Perennials here in Michigan, and they were 642 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,440 promoting and I thought it was beautiful. The orange slices Spygellia, 643 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,679 I pronouncing that spigelia, but spigelia. Okay, it's hardy to 644 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,559 zone five. Those tubular flowers appear for weeks and then 645 00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:12,559 we'll follow the ground after bloom, but very popular with 646 00:36:13,039 --> 00:36:18,480 hummingbirds and it's long lived. Once established, full sun is 647 00:36:18,519 --> 00:36:21,239 recommended if you're in the south, maybe some filtered sun, 648 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,960 but orange slices. 649 00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Spidela is a beautiful plant, native perennial, just absolutely gorgeous, 650 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,440 but it does need moist soil, therefore it is not 651 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:32,719 in my garden. 652 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: Okay, got it. Super bells double orange calibricoa, that's a 653 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:43,519 beauty we mentioned earlier. Kufia vermillionaire. That's just a favorite 654 00:36:43,519 --> 00:36:48,239 of mine. Blooms all season long and the hummingbirds love it. 655 00:36:48,639 --> 00:36:52,480 You mentioned happy face orange potentilla. What a great plant. 656 00:36:53,159 --> 00:36:56,320 But then when we look at cone flowers, and in 657 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,159 recent years, all the cultivars of cone flowers that have 658 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:07,320 been developed color coded orange orange you awesome, sombrero adobe 659 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:13,400 orange cone flower fabulous. And then Stacy the juiced orange jessamine. 660 00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:15,039 Is that how you pronounce. 661 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,159 Speaker 2: It, yep, jessamine or i'd say cestrum, which is the 662 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,159 scientific name. But yeah, kind of a cool yellowy orange color, 663 00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:24,639 but really beautiful flowers. If you live in a hot climate, 664 00:37:24,679 --> 00:37:26,400 I know we do have a lot of hot climate listeners. 665 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,719 So some great choices for you. You know, I know 666 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,880 a lot of times our hot climate listeners are like, 667 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,679 you're not telling me stuff I can use. Well, I'm 668 00:37:33,679 --> 00:37:36,639 telling you I am jealous of all of the amazing 669 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,320 orange flowered stuff that you guys can grow in zone 670 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:46,679 eight and warmer underrated orange perennial I think is GM. 671 00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:49,119 Oh sure, you know, GM is a plant that I 672 00:37:49,159 --> 00:37:51,639 think is definitely about to have a moment, if it's 673 00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:53,840 not already having one, which I guess just depends on 674 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,159 how much you personally like it. But there have been 675 00:37:57,199 --> 00:38:01,239 a lot of really cool, bright orange an orange adjacent 676 00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:05,719 GM's coming out. And that's interesting because you know, today's 677 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,639 plan on trial, Barrybox Pyrocommalies is in the rose family roses. 678 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,599 A lot of the plants that we talked about spyriea 679 00:38:12,559 --> 00:38:15,039 with orange flowers that are hardy or in the rose 680 00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:16,039 family as is GM. 681 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: Oh nice. Yeah, So if you're keeping score at home, 682 00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:23,360 you're driving in your car listening to our radio version 683 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,480 of the show or listening to the podcast GM of 684 00:38:26,519 --> 00:38:31,199 course spelled ge um yes, yeah, pretty simple, right, all right? 685 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,840 Of course I love color Blaze Colius and to me, 686 00:38:36,159 --> 00:38:39,000 I don't know if it's intended to be as such. 687 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:44,239 But the Sedona sunset colius looks really orange to me 688 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:44,880 in the land. 689 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 2: Is that the orange and purple one? 690 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's just orange and kind of burgundy. 691 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah to it. 692 00:38:51,519 --> 00:38:55,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that one. And then rain Oh boy, 693 00:38:56,199 --> 00:38:59,320 I don't know if I should bring this up or not. Daylilies. 694 00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's plenty of orange daylilies, no shortage. 695 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: It always conjures up thought of the ditch lilies. Yes, 696 00:39:08,119 --> 00:39:10,840 you know orange lilies growing in the ditch. But there 697 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,719 are gorgeous orange daylilies for your landscape, like Rainbow Rhythm 698 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,840 orange or Rainbow rhythm. Primal scream. 699 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 2: I was gonna mention primal scream because that one is 700 00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:24,360 that is a plant that you are not going to 701 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,440 walk by without noticing. It is a very showy, bright 702 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,280 orange and it's called primal scream because the petals really 703 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,880 open out like it's a mouth just screaming. So it's 704 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,519 bright orange with a big open petal. And yeah, if 705 00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:40,519 you want attention grabbing plants, that is one of them. 706 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: Speaking of attention grabbing, one of my favorites has always 707 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,159 been in the Land. I've always loved red hot pokers 708 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:54,599 in the landscape, and there are orange ones, Pyromania, orange blaze, Nipofia, 709 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,960 or I don't know, people just call them. 710 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 2: Pokersia myself, but I have that orange one, and yeah, 711 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,760 it is an awesome, awesome plant. I mean, I loved 712 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,840 defofia anyway, but that's a great choice. Another orange flower 713 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,679 I head in my yard this year. Didn't even realize 714 00:40:11,679 --> 00:40:15,719 it was nasturtium, not one of your favorites. I realized, 715 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,920 that's true. But great color, just beautiful, rich, pure oranges 716 00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:24,760 and kind of that blue foliage. So a little bit 717 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,079 of that kind of contrast that you were talking about 718 00:40:27,079 --> 00:40:29,800 between blue and orange. Yes, the foliage kind of has 719 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,480 hints of blue. And then I mean, I guess since 720 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,119 we're talking about plants you don't like always got to 721 00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:38,480 talk about marigold's if you're talking about orange, I'm sorry. 722 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,559 Speaker 1: I didn't have it on my list. 723 00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:41,039 Speaker 2: I know you didn't have it on your list. But 724 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:42,639 classic orange right there? 725 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: Oh boy, oh boy? Yes, And that's true. That's true. Well, 726 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,679 I remember the nineteen seventies and nineteen eighties when we're 727 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,679 selling annuals at that time, before we have the magnificent 728 00:40:55,119 --> 00:41:00,519 cultivars that we have today. But the Walleriana impatience flats 729 00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:04,400 of orange. Boy, was that popular, lots of people planted 730 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:09,079 orange impatience. Of course, today, the orange ornamental peppers for 731 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:15,719 fall are spectacular. There's Santos orange, Sedona sun. I purchased 732 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,880 some this fall for decorating. Love orange ornamental peppers, and 733 00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:24,719 who doesn't enjoy dicing up some orange peppers from the 734 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,639 vegetable garden for a stir fry, kebabs or a dish 735 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:29,199 that you're. 736 00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 2: Cooking up in some Yeah, you know, I talked about 737 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,039 it earlier this season. I talked about growing the habbanata peppers, 738 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,360 and now they you know good by the way, Oh, 739 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,320 I'm glad you liked them. I like them now that 740 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,840 the season is officially over. We've had plenty of hard 741 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,960 frosts here in Michigan, and I had to harvest everything. 742 00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:48,480 I don't know that I have ever grown a more 743 00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:53,119 productive pepper. So habanatas they look like hobbinnero's. They have 744 00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:56,639 that same kind of big lanterning type shape and thin walls, 745 00:41:57,119 --> 00:41:58,639 but they're not at all hot. So they have the 746 00:41:58,639 --> 00:42:02,039 fruity flavor of a hobbit with no heat at all. 747 00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:05,119 And I tell you a single plant that I grew 748 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,719 easily easily produced one hundred and fifty if not more, 749 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,000 fruits on it. It is one of the most productive 750 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,880 and prolific peppers that I have ever grown. Hard to 751 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,480 find in stores, definitely when you're gonna have to grow 752 00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:19,800 by seed on your own, but a unique flavor and 753 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,559 a unique plant, and just it's so prolific that it's 754 00:42:22,599 --> 00:42:26,199 it's ornamental and the fruits ripe into that beautiful, bright orange, 755 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,000 so decorative. Yeah, I've loved that plant. 756 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: We'll be honest with you. I ate them, and I 757 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,199 was thinking, this is gonna be hot. 758 00:42:34,639 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really messes with you. 759 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, it messes it, but you know. 760 00:42:38,679 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 2: And I brought them to Adriana to and she started 761 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,440 eating them right in front of someone and they were like, no, stop, 762 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,440 what are you doing? But do you think they're going 763 00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:47,199 to be hot? But they have not even the slightest 764 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:47,960 bin of heat. 765 00:42:48,159 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really cool. My pretoria cannas were amazing this 766 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,920 summer with bright orange blossoms. Loved it. And is it 767 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,639 possible to get a brighter orange then butterfly weed esclept? 768 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the classic. You look up orange and 769 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,480 the dictionary exactly beautiful. Love that plant. 770 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,679 Speaker 1: I mentioned of course tubers, pagonia's and poppies prints of orange, 771 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,599 oriental poppy. And then of course I've got another favorite 772 00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:20,239 orange that I love to grow, and that is just 773 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:25,440 simply orange Gerbera daisies. They are fabulous, what a great 774 00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:30,920 cut flower. Fun in the sun, Stacy, Again, the color 775 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:37,760 orange makes me think tropical Miami Beach, makes me think summertime, August, 776 00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:42,880 hot weather. So for me, my vote is yes for 777 00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:44,440 orange in the landscape. 778 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 2: My vote for orange in the landscape is also yes. 779 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: Wonderful. Well, thank you so much, thank you Stacy, thank 780 00:43:51,039 --> 00:43:53,400 you Adriana, and most of all, thanks to you for 781 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,599 watching us on YouTube, listening to our radio show, or 782 00:43:57,679 --> 00:44:02,000 looking for us wherever you get your favorite podcasts. Have 783 00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:07,039 a great week. M