WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.200 --> 00:00:07.360 Thank you for listening to de Pictures Media Radio. 2 00:00:21.039 --> 00:00:27.559 Welcome to Policy and Writes, Show Up, Welcoming Policy, Human Joy. 3 00:00:54.960 --> 00:00:59.280 This is Policy and Rights with your hosts Kelly Reaver 4 00:00:59.880 --> 00:01:02.520 or known as DJ Ray If you're counting on me 5 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:07.519 on gums and maples. Anyways, Yeah, so I'm going to 6 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:15.319 talk to you about the future of Australia. Adam Stokes, 7 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:21.400 one of the interviewers, sat down with Senator General Rennick 8 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:28.599 about the future of the with well mostly Australian politics 9 00:01:28.719 --> 00:01:33.079 and the economy from his point of view, the policies 10 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:39.480 of inflation, central banking, national sovereignty, etc. So they go 11 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:45.159 on to continuing on issues like labor and liberal liberal 12 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:50.079 and labor through their debate stages from the elections. Who's 13 00:01:50.120 --> 00:01:53.760 in charge in Australia? Have you ever been threatened? Where 14 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:58.799 the politicians judges exempt from taking the vaccine and talk 15 00:01:58.840 --> 00:02:04.760 about a lot of vaccine situations, How Australians feel so poor, 16 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:09.759 Where is Australian text, money is going, et cetera. Those 17 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:13.639 kind of issues. So right now it's about well, the 18 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:17.039 clip's about thirty four minutes and fourteen seconds on the clip. 19 00:02:19.159 --> 00:02:23.400 If you want to have any comments or questions about 20 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:28.240 either myself or with Michael Clogg's Depictions Media. You can 21 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:32.919 go online wo wo wo dot Depictions d E P I, 22 00:02:33.159 --> 00:02:39.560 C T I O N S dot Media and follow 23 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:46.800 the links there to get a contact to Otherwise, his 24 00:02:47.159 --> 00:02:51.719 email address is Michael at Ribbon's Marketing and Networking dot 25 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:59.759 com or his Depictions Media Michael at Depictionsmedia dot com. Anyways, 26 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:03.439 I'm going to go over to now the clip of 27 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:10.960 the Senator Jerald Rennick on Australia's future and their beliefs 28 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:16.520 on it, mostly again on Australian politics and Australian economy. 29 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:20.680 You can always email me sent to DJ that's my 30 00:03:20.800 --> 00:03:23.840 old email. Sorry, Gums and met Poles at gmail dot 31 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:28.840 com for you know, for music that I do for 32 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:33.719 Gums of Meat, Poles Radio or on Depictions Media. Thank 33 00:03:33.759 --> 00:03:36.439 you very much, and of course here's the clip, and 34 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:39.560 I will talk to again soon. Have a great day 35 00:03:39.639 --> 00:03:41.960 and we'll again. We'll talk to you again soon. 36 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:46.560 This morning I had the unique opportunity to speak with 37 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:49.639 Senator Jared Rennick to get his insight on the Australian 38 00:03:49.719 --> 00:03:53.199 economy and political landscape. Note I neither paid for this 39 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:56.039 interview nor was given any money to conduct it. I 40 00:03:56.080 --> 00:03:58.800 simply reached out to many Australian leaders to give them 41 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:02.080 the opportunity to speak my platform beyond what labor and 42 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:05.280 liberal get on the mainstream media. Note also, this is 43 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:08.800 neither an endorsement nor disendorsement for the Senator, but rather 44 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:11.039 just an opportunity for us to hear what he has 45 00:04:11.080 --> 00:04:14.520 to say and provides you insights therefore options when it 46 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:18.319 comes time to vote. To all Australian political leaders, irrespective 47 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:20.240 of what side of the aisle you sit on, you 48 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:22.879 are always welcome on this channel, so you can speak 49 00:04:22.959 --> 00:04:25.519 freely and Australia can hear what you have to say. 50 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:28.519 Whilst on this channel we're typically accustomed to interviews going 51 00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:31.240 for several hours. We have to respect that the Senator 52 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:34.360 is an immensely busy man. Therefore, I'm very grateful for 53 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:36.800 the time that he gave me. This is my interview 54 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:39.600 with the good Senator, Senator Rennick. Thank you for joining 55 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:40.199 me this morning. 56 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:42.120 It's good to be here. Thanks for having me on 57 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:43.160 Adam Senator. 58 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:46.120 Last week there was a televised debate between Dunton and Albanesi. 59 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:48.839 I felt that it implied that Australia was a republic 60 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:51.720 with only two choices about being label or liberal. If 61 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:53.839 this isn't the case, why don't we see other parties 62 00:04:53.839 --> 00:04:54.959 on the debate stage. 63 00:04:55.439 --> 00:04:58.120 That's a very good question, Adam, and it's something that 64 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:01.160 needs to be addressed. As we've just speaking of camera before, 65 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:04.680 the primary vote of the two major parties is slipping. 66 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:08.040 But at the same time, the media refused to look 67 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:11.759 at alternative options. Now, you know, I'll admit that the 68 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:13.399 minor parties have a lot of work to do in 69 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:19.160 terms of improving their professionalism and becoming more aerodyite and polished. 70 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:21.040 We need to become that and that's one of the 71 00:05:21.040 --> 00:05:24.000 things people first wants to do. But at the same time, 72 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:26.600 people are looking for alternatives, and I think it's up 73 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:29.639 to the mainstream media to provide those alternatives. And I'll 74 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:32.040 give you another good example. Just last night Sky News, 75 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:35.199 Paul mara on Sky News had Bob Catter, Pauline Hanson, 76 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:38.040 and Matt Cannaban on and was calling them the renegades. 77 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:41.240 And yet that's true, but two of those candidates, Pauline 78 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:43.680 and Matt canaban weren't even running, you know. And yet 79 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:45.519 again it's sort of like we're Whiting. You have Senate 80 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:49.480 candidates from Queensland who were running. But you know, this 81 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:51.680 is the sad fact. Even Sky that used to start 82 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:54.000 off as sort of so called being an alternative of 83 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:56.160 the mainstream media, they're not at all. They're just part 84 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:58.560 of the establishment as well. And you know, when you've 85 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:01.079 got people struggling with the cost of being and having 86 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:04.759 many people have suffered through government neglect, whether it's through 87 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:07.439 bank loans. You know, they've lost money from banks and 88 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:10.560 then the government hasn't held the bank accountable, whether it's 89 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:14.160 the vaccine injury issues, farmers having their farm land, or 90 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:16.680 their neighbors put up a dirty, big stinking wind turbine 91 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:20.160 next to them. People are tired of being stood on 92 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:22.360 by the establishment. And that's one of the things we 93 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:25.079 want to do people first is protect the individual, and 94 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:26.759 we're bringing in word protection isn't back. 95 00:06:26.759 --> 00:06:27.600 It's not a dirty word. 96 00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:30.360 We do want to protect the individual, their families, our culture, 97 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:32.839 and our country and your capital. By the way, you 98 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:35.040 can be a protectionist and a capitalist, because we want 99 00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:37.680 to protect people's capital and that means keeping it out 100 00:06:37.680 --> 00:06:40.879 of the hands of the establishment. So look, yeah, it's 101 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:43.399 annoying how the mainstream media're only focused on the two 102 00:06:43.439 --> 00:06:46.000 major leaders because that neither of them have much to offer, 103 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:48.800 and there are alternatives out there will be the miners, 104 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:50.439 I think, do need to lift their game as well. 105 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:54.360 So who's in charge? I'm not convinced we have political 106 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:56.120 parties in charge. We can see that we have this 107 00:06:56.160 --> 00:06:59.040 interesting system that prime ministers can be fired overnight and 108 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:01.560 there was a time we're waking up every morning to 109 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:04.360 a different prime minister. So you have the parties kind 110 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:06.879 of as a puppet masters at the bottom, the voters 111 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:08.879 as a puppet masters perhaps at the top. Then you 112 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:12.240 have the lobbyists and the media. Senator, who's in charge. 113 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:16.040 Adam, That's easy. It's it's the people behind. So it's 114 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:19.199 the institutions, right, and so the institutions are the bureaucracy. 115 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:22.199 They are big corporations, they are big super funds and 116 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:26.040 they are big media. Now the bureaucracy will they'll have 117 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:29.319 an agenda. You know, before I got into Parliament, I 118 00:07:29.399 --> 00:07:31.079 used to think the bureaucracy was just a bunch of 119 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:34.000 bumbling bureaucrats, you know, like we all make mistakes and 120 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:35.839 they'd engage in a bit of ass covering, you know, 121 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:38.319 which is a natural sort of human trait for people 122 00:07:38.360 --> 00:07:41.040 to do. But since I've been in there, I've realized 123 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:43.959 a lot of these people now have adopted the narrative 124 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:46.519 or an agenda that's against the Australian interests of the 125 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:49.279 Australian people. And when I say agenda, a lot of 126 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:51.839 it the agenda is purely self interest in the sense 127 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:53.839 that they don't want to speak up because they'll lose 128 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:56.480 their job, like I did with the Liberal Party. So 129 00:07:56.519 --> 00:07:59.160 obviously the first agenda is self interest when you but 130 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:01.639 this is where the media and the big super funds, 131 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:04.759 and when I say big super and big corporations are 132 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:06.720 pretty much hand in hand. Now we have over three 133 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:09.839 trillion dollars tied up in capital in non self managed 134 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:13.399 super fund superinneration. So when you control that much capital, 135 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:16.639 you do control industry. So an industry now is controlled 136 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:19.879 by let's say between twenty five so about almost twenty 137 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:23.199 industry funds and about ten big retail funds. None of 138 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:25.839 their boards are elected, they're selected. So we have all 139 00:08:25.879 --> 00:08:28.680 this capital now that is controlled by people who were never, 140 00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:32.159 never held to account. And then of course there's big media, 141 00:08:32.200 --> 00:08:35.720 and since we've abolished across media ownership laws. Big media 142 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:38.200 has been basically reduced to the ABC News Corp And 143 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:40.799 Fairfax nine. I mean Channel seven and Channel ten have 144 00:08:40.840 --> 00:08:42.399 a little bit of influence, not much, so. 145 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:43.759 There's three big players there. 146 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:47.879 So it's an ogilarchy of as I said, for the 147 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:51.879 big government bureaucrats, big corporations who in many respects now 148 00:08:51.919 --> 00:08:54.840 are controlled by Big Super and Big Media. Yet again, 149 00:08:55.279 --> 00:08:57.480 and big Media in many respects are actually controlled by 150 00:08:57.559 --> 00:09:00.440 Big Super as well now because these central eye wealth 151 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:04.039 funds control have large stakes in the media corporations as well, 152 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:07.480 so they're the ones in control. Look the executive. And 153 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:09.720 here's the other thing too, the executive. We don't have 154 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:11.759 true separation of powers in this country. 155 00:09:12.159 --> 00:09:12.320 Now. 156 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:13.840 What I mean by that for your listeners, if you 157 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:15.480 don't know what I'm talking about, is we should have 158 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:19.279 a judiciary an executive in a parliament. Our executive sits 159 00:09:19.279 --> 00:09:22.480 inside of parliament. Now we use the Westminster system. People 160 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:25.039 say we use the Westminster system, and we do, but 161 00:09:25.080 --> 00:09:28.559 it's not entirely the same because in the UK they 162 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:30.759 have six hundred and fifty members in their lower House. 163 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:32.080 We have one hundred and fifty. 164 00:09:32.519 --> 00:09:34.440 So if you add just seventy six senators, you get 165 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:38.120 two hundred and twenty six parliamentarians. Your governing party now 166 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:41.000 that we seem to have smaller majorities and looks like 167 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:43.039 we're going to have a minority government this time will 168 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:46.440 be less than one hundred. Our ministers make up thirty, 169 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:49.399 you know, and if you add your assistant ministers, maybe 170 00:09:49.480 --> 00:09:53.159 even up to close to forty people inside the party 171 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:55.519 room who are part of the executive as well as 172 00:09:55.519 --> 00:09:59.600 the parliament. Now those forty people control the other fifty backbenches. 173 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:01.799 And I saw it in my time in the Liberal 174 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:04.600 Party that very few people today will get up and 175 00:10:04.600 --> 00:10:07.799 speak in the party room against what the ministers want 176 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:10.320 because they know their careers will be damaged. So I 177 00:10:10.320 --> 00:10:13.360 would we need I mean, this is hypothetical, but it 178 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:15.840 doesn't have to be. We need to get our ministers 179 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:17.840 outside of parliament and do it to the United States 180 00:10:17.919 --> 00:10:21.759 doesn't have their executives, so your secretary of State, secretary 181 00:10:21.759 --> 00:10:25.840 of Trade or whatever, outside of the actual parliament itself, 182 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:29.080 because they have way too much influence. And of course 183 00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:32.639 the executive the executive are the ministers. Most of these 184 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:35.320 ministers come from safe seats to win a pre selection 185 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:37.200 in a safe seat in one of the major parties, 186 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:39.320 you have to be a party hack. In other words, 187 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:41.759 you know you joined the party when you started university. 188 00:10:42.120 --> 00:10:44.799 You know you're sucked up throughout the young OLMP, young labor. 189 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:47.000 So you spent your life sucking up to get into 190 00:10:47.039 --> 00:10:48.600 the ministry, and then by the time you're in the 191 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:51.399 ministry you don't know how to say so. And very 192 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:53.559 few of these people are subject matter experts. I mean, 193 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:56.360 you look at the last two health ministers, Greg Hunt 194 00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:59.919 and Mark Butler, or even Jim Chalmers is an economist, 195 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:02.679 did his poh down Paul Heating? I mean would he 196 00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:04.399 doesn't really know? You know, he would if I asked 197 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:06.080 him what the way to average cost to capital is? 198 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:08.000 To calculate way to average cost to capital? I doubt 199 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:10.840 that he'd have a clue about what I was talking about. So, 200 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:15.159 you know, economists aren't accountants. That's something that many of 201 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:18.399 you listeners might be aware of. So ultimately it's this 202 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:21.240 punch and duty show between the two major parties. But 203 00:11:21.320 --> 00:11:23.919 the real puppet masters are the ones behind the stage, 204 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:25.919 and they're the big four that I just mentioned before, 205 00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:28.840 big media, big bureaucrats, big corporations, big Suber. 206 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:31.639 You speak so differently to other politicians. For the record 207 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:33.639 and the viewers out there, I'm not being paid for this. 208 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:36.399 I'm not sponsored by anyone. I'm just an Australian seeking 209 00:11:36.440 --> 00:11:40.200 the truth. I've reached out to many politicians and so 210 00:11:40.399 --> 00:11:42.240 you were the only one who responded. So thank you. 211 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:44.399 And this is an indication of how you are different 212 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:47.120 to the other politicians. And my audience has been screaming 213 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:49.440 to hear you speak more for the work that you're doing. 214 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:51.679 Have you ever been threatened for being a Senator of 215 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:52.639 the way that you speak. 216 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:55.440 Oh, I've had a couple of death threats from people 217 00:11:55.639 --> 00:11:59.639 over the Ukraine issue. Yeah, my staff have had some threats. 218 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:02.919 We've had some threats that way. And then i had 219 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:05.720 threats from colleagues when I'm going to tell my vote 220 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:07.799 over COVID that they were going to lose the election. 221 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:10.559 I needed to put my head in and I was like, well, 222 00:12:10.679 --> 00:12:13.679 you know, people have been killed and injured, permanently injured 223 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:14.840 and losing their jobs. 224 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:16.159 I'm not going to walk past. 225 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:18.120 I mean the climate change stuff right, well, you know 226 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:20.919 the climate change is that's a tautology. Who was wet 227 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:21.639 climate change? 228 00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:21.960 Right? 229 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:25.080 But that stuff isn't going to necessarily destroy someone's life 230 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:28.440 in twenty four hours, whereas the vaccines did. And I 231 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:31.840 was overwhelmed. Actually funny, I was overwhelmed enough to know 232 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:34.840 that this wasn't just sort of one in a million injuries. 233 00:12:34.879 --> 00:12:37.799 This was very high rate of injury, and in my view, 234 00:12:38.080 --> 00:12:40.679 occurring to younger people who weren't going to necessarily have 235 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:43.440 a bad injury from the flu itself. So yes, I've 236 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:46.559 been threatened by my colleagues, not in a physical sense, 237 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:48.759 but you know, with my pre selection and in the 238 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:50.840 end I lost my pre selection because of what I did. 239 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:52.840 But you know, I've got to live with my own conscience. 240 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:55.360 And even though I'd like to get back in and 241 00:12:55.399 --> 00:12:57.639 serve for another six years, it would have killed me 242 00:12:57.720 --> 00:12:59.720 during another six years inside the Liberal Party living in 243 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:03.159 the law. So I sort of if I don't get 244 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:05.200 back in, at least I can sort of free my 245 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:08.720 conscience of the self loathing, of not being true to 246 00:13:08.759 --> 00:13:11.720 myself and true of my values and serving Australian people 247 00:13:12.039 --> 00:13:15.159 and hence, while we call that party people first. But so, yeah, 248 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:16.000 I've been threatened. 249 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:18.480 I'm sorry to hear that you were outspoken about the 250 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:20.639 vaccine you've just mentioned it now. Is it true that 251 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:24.600 judges and politicians were exempt from taking the vacs? 252 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:25.200 Yeah? 253 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:28.960 Absolutely, yeah, you can't technically, no one. I mean I 254 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:32.639 think some state MPs. I think Victoria motive. I think 255 00:13:32.679 --> 00:13:35.000 a few state MP's were locked out of parliament, and 256 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:37.399 maybe in a couple of other states. But yeah, no, 257 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:41.519 And the reason for that. Ad Morrison tried that on myself, 258 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:45.559 Creig Kelly, George Christensen, alexandik to name a few. We 259 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:47.639 wouldn't have taken it and then they wouldn't have had 260 00:13:47.679 --> 00:13:51.159 the numbers on the floor. So technically I report to 261 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:53.679 no one in the sense that even when I was 262 00:13:53.720 --> 00:13:55.720 in the Liberal Party, you know, you can defect. I mean, 263 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:58.159 once you're in, you're in. I mean you're basically you 264 00:13:58.159 --> 00:13:59.960 can only get kicked out if you're a bankrupt or 265 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:02.960 commit a crime. If I'm not saying, I think they're 266 00:14:02.960 --> 00:14:05.600 the two ones you can get kicked out for, so effectively, 267 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:08.240 that's correct. I mean, I think the proper way to 268 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:10.960 put it is is that it was in mandates when 269 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:13.440 it plays on federal politicians and judges in the same 270 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:14.919 way that it plays on everyone else. 271 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:18.480 So I understand what you just said about that political questians, Yeah, 272 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:21.159 why not the judges? Why were we forced to take 273 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:24.279 the vacs? Noting also Australia signed up to the Numberg Treaty, 274 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:27.759 which prohibited medical experiments or forcing medical procedures on humans. 275 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:30.799 Yet countless Australians were forced to take a vax or 276 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:33.919 lose their income. So why were judges exempt from it 277 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:35.080 and not us? 278 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:38.759 Well, that's the question you've got to ask Scott Morris. 279 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:41.399 But yet again, so that's separation of powers, So politicians 280 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:44.639 can't tell judges what to do. My understanding of it 281 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:47.039 was I do know someone who was in the judiciary 282 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:49.039 or sort of quasi judiciary, if you want to call 283 00:14:49.039 --> 00:14:51.519 it that, and I think you couldn't enter some of 284 00:14:51.559 --> 00:14:54.480 those buildings. There are a couple of legal buildings that 285 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:56.240 a couple I do know, a couple of people in 286 00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:58.919 that industry that couldn't get to work, to work from home. 287 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:01.759 But technically that's because of the separation of powers. So 288 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:04.320 you can't tell a judge what to do. Politician can't 289 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:06.879 tell a judge what to do for the obvious reason, 290 00:15:06.919 --> 00:15:08.919 and that every time that you wanted to sue a 291 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:12.120 politician or the government, the politician tell the judge to 292 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:14.639 say not guilty. Right, that's why it happened. I mean, 293 00:15:14.679 --> 00:15:17.399 the issue isn't that they've got exemptions. The issue is 294 00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:21.759 the double standards, because it's not we like I said, 295 00:15:21.799 --> 00:15:23.559 we couldn't tell the judges. What's not not that I 296 00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:25.360 was telling them what to do this this is obviously 297 00:15:25.399 --> 00:15:28.399 the ministry. But it was the double standards. It's the 298 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:31.679 hypocrisy of the double standards. And that's what stemps There's 299 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:33.720 one law for them and another for us. Even though 300 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:35.639 I am one of them, I see myself as one 301 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:35.840 of you. 302 00:15:36.039 --> 00:15:37.159 So that yeah, there was. 303 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:39.639 And that's the thing. It's the double standards. I mean, 304 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:41.919 it's like to define benefits scheme for retired bureaucrats. I 305 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:44.240 mean it's like, you know, that's that's the liability of 306 00:15:44.279 --> 00:15:46.440 three hundred and forty billion dollars cost about ten billion 307 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:49.159 dollars a year. David Anderson from the ABC has been 308 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:51.200 paid seven over a million dollars for the last seven 309 00:15:51.279 --> 00:15:54.120 years around a million dollars for the last seven years. 310 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:56.240 He's just retired as many as director of the ABC. 311 00:15:56.720 --> 00:15:58.399 His final salary is thirty seven per cent of his 312 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:00.600 final income, which is four hundred hours knowledge a year 313 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:03.320 until he dies. If he's fifty six now, it lives 314 00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:05.919 under thirty years till he's eighty six. That's twelve million bucks, 315 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:09.000 despite the fact he's probably already a multi millionaire, given 316 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:10.639 that he's been paid over a million bucks in the last 317 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:13.759 seven years. So yet again, why isn't he means tested 318 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:17.639 to get his pension? And I'm talking about the define benefit. 319 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:19.960 I'm not talking about your contributions. That's a different thing 320 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:23.080 where it's vested. I'm talking about the part where it's 321 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:25.639 not vested and the tax payer has to stump up 322 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:29.120 the difference. And the thing about that scheme is the wealth. 323 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:32.759 The more you are paid throughout your working career, the 324 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:34.799 more you get when you retire, when it should be 325 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:36.600 the other way around. The whole idea of the pension 326 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:39.399 is to help those people that had low incomes throughout 327 00:16:39.440 --> 00:16:42.840 their working career but kept working because there's always you know, 328 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:44.639 the cost of aasets, the cost of living and all 329 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:47.039 that stuff's a relative concept, right, There's always going to 330 00:16:47.039 --> 00:16:49.600 be people earning the bottom in the bottom, the lower 331 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:54.399 fifty percent of wage journers, right, So the cost of 332 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:57.960 everything is a function of purchasing power. So it's the 333 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:01.320 bottom fifty percent that still worked for forty years. You know, 334 00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:03.559 I was just here late last night in the office 335 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:06.119 and a cleaner came in eleven o'clock. You know, it 336 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:09.200 should be paid pittance, But they're are cleaning rooms and 337 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:12.119 things like that. And those people deserve our respect because 338 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:14.200 they work hard. They work shift with a lot of 339 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:17.359 these people's shift workers. And you know, they're only getting 340 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:20.079 through a percent of a fifty income, whereas the wealthy 341 00:17:20.079 --> 00:17:21.720 people get to a percent of a high income. So 342 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:24.400 the whole idea of this define benefit been percentage of 343 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:28.680 your final incomes. Quite it's counterintuitive because really it's the 344 00:17:28.720 --> 00:17:30.920 other way around. It's the lower incomes that should be 345 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:33.400 getting the high well not not necessarily a higher pension 346 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:35.680 other people, but you want to pension that's acts as 347 00:17:35.680 --> 00:17:38.240 a safety net, but not as a hammock. And this 348 00:17:38.359 --> 00:17:40.480 defined benefits schemes are hammock. I mean, some of these 349 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:42.799 people are just not they're getting paids outrageous. 350 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:45.759 It's a good segue into our economy in Australia. We 351 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:49.000 have an abundance of land and resources, ingenuity and the 352 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:52.000 big demand on our products, yet equally We've never been 353 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:54.480 so poor. That is, I've never earned so much money 354 00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:56.359 in my life and had so many assets, yet I've 355 00:17:56.359 --> 00:17:58.839 never felt so poor, and I see the same around me. 356 00:17:59.200 --> 00:17:59.880 What's going on. 357 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:03.400 What's going on, quite simply, is the fact that we 358 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:07.519 have allowed equity to become debt the biggest brain washing exercise. 359 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:10.000 So we are familiar with how our children believe that 360 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:12.160 the extra one hundred parts per million and one part 361 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:15.440 per ten thousand CO two molecules in the atmosphere is 362 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:18.160 heated up the degree by atmosphere by a degree one 363 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:20.440 and a half degrees. Now, we were brainwashed in the 364 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:24.480 eighties with the idea that you can't print money out 365 00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:27.359 of thin air. Now that's an oxymoronic statement. All money 366 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:29.559 is printed out of thin air, and it's been printed 367 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:31.440 out of thin air, but in the last four decades 368 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:34.000 by the Japanese Central Bank, originally in the late eighties, 369 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:36.640 and then green Span started to turn it on in 370 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:39.559 the late nineties early two thousands, as did ThEC BE. 371 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:43.359 So all central banks print money. They've been issuing bonds 372 00:18:43.480 --> 00:18:46.519 through quantitative easing for about well, if you start with 373 00:18:46.559 --> 00:18:49.039 the Japanese in the late eighties. For what's that three 374 00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:52.319 decades now, so that's a myth, and central banks have 375 00:18:52.359 --> 00:18:55.839 been doing it except for except for the RBA, for 376 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:57.759 the one exception of COVID where they did print three 377 00:18:57.839 --> 00:19:00.599 hundred million dollars which was to pay people to stay 378 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:04.000 at home and do nothing right, which was completely absurd. Now, 379 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:05.960 if you know what a balance sheet looks like, you've 380 00:19:05.960 --> 00:19:07.759 got an asset on the right hand side of your 381 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:09.960 balance sheet. On the right hand side, you've got this 382 00:19:09.960 --> 00:19:13.000 thing called capital, which is either debt or equity. Right, 383 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:16.079 this is an arbitrary construct. Debt or equity is either 384 00:19:16.839 --> 00:19:20.039 it's either a mortgage it's a legal document mortgage or 385 00:19:20.079 --> 00:19:25.119 its title. We have title, so that equity title is equity. 386 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:25.400 Right. 387 00:19:25.480 --> 00:19:27.680 We are a sovereign country with access to seven million 388 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:31.400 square kilometers. Now, while it's foolish to print money and 389 00:19:31.440 --> 00:19:34.279 spend it ie print and spend which will increase demand, 390 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:38.119 it is not foolish to let's call it issuing shares. 391 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:40.079 So we all know that companies on the Stock Exchange 392 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:42.839 issue shares. If BHP were to issue shares to build 393 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:46.000 a new cold mine tomorrow, the nearly rules wouldn't be going. Well, 394 00:19:46.039 --> 00:19:48.599 you can't print shares out of thin air, can you right? 395 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:50.680 Like that happens all the time on the stock market. 396 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:55.240 As a country, we can issue new shares against assets 397 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:57.119 that produce wealth or give us wealth. 398 00:19:57.640 --> 00:19:57.839 Right. 399 00:19:57.920 --> 00:20:00.519 So if you're going to issue credit out of thin air, 400 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:03.599 which is what everyone does, it's an arbitrary construct. You 401 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:06.720