Speaker 1: Salisbury did okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury.
Speaker 2: To usc Troupes, longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 1: Dan Matthews, this is the Sean Salisbury show.
Speaker 3: One two curveball bounced softly up the middle charging Paine.
Speaker 3: Heatfield scholves a second for one Rogers the first. That's
Speaker 3: to score at six to four to three double play
Speaker 3: to get fromper out of trouble. Now the pitch and
Speaker 3: Paenia Rockets went deep to left, going back on it
Speaker 3: as Collins on the warning track looking up.
Speaker 4: And that ball is gone.
Speaker 5: Just did clear the fence. A three run hold ron
Speaker 5: for Jeremy Payna and the Astros lead at six to one.
Speaker 5: Painia's fifth of the season to two round ball for
Speaker 5: the right side of base hit.
Speaker 3: Payina scores al two. A big turn at second, but
Speaker 3: we'll stop there. East Sack Parades with an RBI single,
Speaker 3: third time he's reached today, seven to one. Astros first
Speaker 3: pitch a guyner DZ and he linesys over the leap
Speaker 3: of Capra down the left field line. Our two Bay
Speaker 3: scores right behind him is Parades. He scores as well.
Speaker 3: A two run double for Yiner and the Astros lead
Speaker 3: is nine to one, the kick in the one too,
Speaker 3: and that's lifted to left pretty deep. Dubond racing back
Speaker 3: as a play makes the catch on the jog on
Speaker 3: the warning track, and that is the ball game. The
Speaker 3: Houston Astros pour it on in Milwaukee as they defeat
Speaker 3: the Brewers nine to one to finish off their six
Speaker 3: game road trip on a positive note.
Speaker 4: Hi remember us, you know us?
Speaker 6: Well, normally we start about fifteen minutes earlier than we
Speaker 6: just did.
Speaker 4: But we are here. Now.
Speaker 6: You know, technology, sometimes it just happens. But thanks to
Speaker 6: Tripoli back behind the scenes, able to get us back here.
Speaker 6: So U no, no, no, I'm not Tripley's fault was
Speaker 6: the reason that we got back.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't know. I don't know necessarily whose
Speaker 4: fault it was, but who's counting? Yeah, But I just
Speaker 4: said I didn't know because when you walked in, you
Speaker 4: started saying, I can't believe triple he screwed this whole thing.
Speaker 4: Those words never once came out of my mouse. SA false.
Speaker 4: I'm saying Tripley would never do that. He's been on
Speaker 4: the show and never miss a beat. And here you are,
Speaker 4: bus tossed a him. It's the weirdest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 4: You know that is that is textbook projection? Where were weird?
Speaker 4: You just all of a sudden thought it was, you
Speaker 4: know what, triple E. Better re introduce him to it.
Speaker 4: It sounded a little bit like, uh, maybe racist, Like
Speaker 4: I said that that never happened. It was his textbook projection.
Speaker 4: Walks out, frustrated, We're not is it one of those
Speaker 4: that's true? That's got to be triple hiss fault? I said, no, man,
Speaker 4: triple he doesn't miss I rejected. I rejected on premise alone.
Speaker 4: I want that to be on the record. I don't know,
Speaker 4: what do you think, dog? I mean, Dan's fairly you
Speaker 4: know what, what do we six weeks eight some weeks?
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think we're six weeks in TRIPLEY. I
Speaker 4: don't know, man, I don't know if he knows the landscape,
Speaker 4: the culture you and I got in this show. But hey,
Speaker 4: I think sounded a little it was sounded weird. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was kind of sounded weird that he blamed it
Speaker 4: on you, but hinting at it, is that what you're getting?
Speaker 4: What am I doing? Like I said, I rechecked the
Speaker 4: premise alone.
Speaker 6: But anyway, counselor all right, I'll tell you guys what
Speaker 6: so we will go ahead take our normal what would
Speaker 6: be our first break of the show. We'll come back,
Speaker 6: we'll start to show off in earnest and technical issues.
Speaker 4: What can we do? So good work by you two
Speaker 4: like in earnest really nice nice Saint Thomas kind of
Speaker 4: get ready for college.
Speaker 6: Word, that's it. That's a college preparatory for a reason.
Speaker 6: That education really paid off. What can we say? So anyway,
Speaker 6: is the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven to ninety.
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Speaker 4: Load them up and get a comfortable where you're hammering
Speaker 4: him from the start and you got a big lead
Speaker 4: paying his home run. So yeah, man, we were begging
Speaker 4: for when you got both the same day, when you
Speaker 4: got yeah, great pitching performance, but win two to one
Speaker 4: or three to one, right, and now you got or
Speaker 4: you lose a game where it's seven to one or
Speaker 4: it's three to two, and maybe win one that one comfortable, aggressive,
Speaker 4: hell of a pitching performance by Fromber. That's what's maddening.
Speaker 4: You'll get that one and then you'll get one. It's
Speaker 4: like the Dow Jones part of it. But dynamic, precise
Speaker 4: performance by him that exploded and you got yourself will
Speaker 4: win and it was much needed. Need to say, I'm
Speaker 4: talking about the explosion of it and from er to
Speaker 4: go out at the same time. That's how the team
Speaker 4: I think we expected to look.
Speaker 6: If you really wanted to do the nitpicking part of it,
Speaker 6: this game kind of had everything. I mean because it
Speaker 6: had the good which was that where you know, you
Speaker 6: get the three run homer from Jeremy Pania and then
Speaker 6: you get the three runs there in the top of
Speaker 6: the ninth inning, but I mean you get the fifth inning,
Speaker 6: I mean is a prime example of that of you
Speaker 6: get the couple of runs. I mean, Zach Decenzo, what
Speaker 6: is it about this guy? Like I almost feel like,
Speaker 6: you know, because I've said when he does good things,
Speaker 6: my name for him is Enzo to Zenzo. You know,
Speaker 6: he just did that. That seems like it's a good
Speaker 6: name for him. But like something along the lines of
Speaker 6: like you know, the lizard or the snake or something
Speaker 6: like that. And where I'm going with this is his slides.
Speaker 6: I mean, this guy just has a way. I mean,
Speaker 6: remember you had that slide against Toronto about a week
Speaker 6: ago where you know, it looks like he's gonna be
Speaker 6: dead to rights at the plate, and somehow he just miraculously,
Speaker 6: you know, just exactly knows where to put the oven
Speaker 6: mitt like right there to the big body, to the
Speaker 6: back part of home plate to avoid the tag.
Speaker 4: And I'm just like, how the hell did you do that?
Speaker 6: And yesterday I'm thinking because number one, it was not
Speaker 6: only where it looked like the third baseman made a
Speaker 6: hell of a play at the plate. But I mean,
Speaker 6: you know, just you look back at the replay and
Speaker 6: it's a good job by Joe Spot and his staff
Speaker 6: to see that of saying, oh, no, no, no, he
Speaker 6: got in there, he's safe.
Speaker 4: And I was almost wondering.
Speaker 6: I was like, are they going to try to do
Speaker 6: the call stands and all of that just because they
Speaker 6: called him out? But I mean, it looked definitive enough.
Speaker 6: And sure enough they came back and they put the
Speaker 6: palms down and said two nothing astros, all.
Speaker 4: Right, are you? Which was a in the momentum starts
Speaker 4: to switch. I'm a big in game momentum guy, not
Speaker 4: a game to game momentum guy, right. Sure. The confidence
Speaker 4: that goes with it, that's that's the other part of it.
Speaker 4: Did you just mention the Astros in really good base running?
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe not a guy that bats the second right now,
Speaker 4: but everybody else sure good, it's smart, high eye Q
Speaker 4: the base running right. I'm just I kid, but yeah,
Speaker 4: and how big that body is is still you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, is he that's just that's that's my
Speaker 4: size doing what he does, nimble and can move and versatile. Kids,
Speaker 4: he's going to be a great player. Yeah. I think
Speaker 4: he just said to me he's got a makeup right,
Speaker 4: and he's physically imposing as well to to somebody else.
Speaker 4: And if they if they put it this way, if
Speaker 4: the performance matches the physical presence, nearing for a hell
Speaker 4: of a player. So, but that was that was a
Speaker 4: big win against a I think it's a good you know,
Speaker 4: if he ever does Milwaukee. Maybe it's the size of
Speaker 4: the market just doesn't get talked about. But they're always
Speaker 4: and it's a division as well. Yeah, I mean, but
Speaker 4: they're always around, sure, sure, always are.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 6: I mean I think a big part of that is
Speaker 6: I mean, what twenty eighteen they made an LCS but
Speaker 6: aside from that, they really haven't had much they I'll.
Speaker 4: Tell you what it's been and they've had more success,
Speaker 4: but it's been Toronto Blue jayish Yeah yeah, good, you know,
Speaker 4: bats and sure, phenomenal arms, that's right there. It's phenomenal
Speaker 4: arms where you're like every year we go in thinking, okay,
Speaker 4: this team's that. This is another after they when when
Speaker 4: Hater was there and they had all those monster young
Speaker 4: arms all the way starting guys pumping at one hundred
Speaker 4: ninety eight through the entire line, right, I mean going
Speaker 4: back to full stack Prince Fielder and Braun those teams. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's exactly right. So then you start to roll forward
Speaker 4: and you know with the yellich is now they've had
Speaker 4: some really good talented arms and players roll through that
Speaker 4: and they're still there. So the kind of reminds me
Speaker 4: in that, you know, I always want to think Milwaukee
Speaker 4: Brews is an American League team because when I was
Speaker 4: growing up, they were right. But you just the Toronto
Speaker 4: were expectations and then sometimes we'll say, okay, we're going
Speaker 4: to temper them, and then they end up winning a division,
Speaker 4: hangar or making the playoffs. So they're they're kind of
Speaker 4: that's that feel where talented, you expect more and they'll
Speaker 4: hang around all the time, but then they just don't
Speaker 4: quite close it out.
Speaker 6: Well, I think it's also it's regional bias, as you
Speaker 6: mentioned that. You know, you mentioned the the blue Jays first,
Speaker 6: and then I said the Padres is the blue Jays,
Speaker 6: obviously they're overshadowed by the Yankees and the Red Sox
Speaker 6: that you know, the Pods, Yeah, Padres, Dodgers, maybe even
Speaker 6: you can throw the Giants in there too, But.
Speaker 4: You can throw Milwaukee into the weather Cubs and that's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: so but you're able to salvage a game in the series.
Speaker 6: But you know, like I said too, I mean this
Speaker 6: game had everything in that same fifth inning where then
Speaker 6: you get Brendan Rodgers to score on a wild pitch
Speaker 6: to make it three nothing.
Speaker 4: But then you get the dreaded bases loaded.
Speaker 6: Two outs, and you get with two outs to load
Speaker 6: the bases, a couple of walks and got that apt batch.
Speaker 6: Just it it angered me so much watching it live,
Speaker 6: where you get Yaner Diaz coming up there, the first
Speaker 6: pitch almost hits him and he swings at it and
Speaker 6: fouls it off, and I'm like, you just.
Speaker 4: Had two guys walk on five pitches to take to
Speaker 4: take the pitch.
Speaker 1: Then go.
Speaker 4: The frustration, and that just goes back into paying attention,
Speaker 4: especially a guy in his situation who's a catcher. You're
Speaker 4: thinking understanding the situational part of a game, even though
Speaker 4: you're at the plate, like you would call it if
Speaker 4: you were behind the plate bingo. Yeah, like a guy that.
Speaker 4: You try to get a guy to throw a strike.
Speaker 4: And what have we heard.
Speaker 6: About him all throughout this road trip? I mean, the
Speaker 6: Astros haven't been winning, but he and Jake Myers have
Speaker 6: been seeing the ball well and hit the ball wall right.
Speaker 4: So if you're doing the first part, you're seeing the
Speaker 4: ball well, shouldn't you recognize that ball's about to hit you? Yea,
Speaker 4: and the guys just walk, so don't swing right. Make
Speaker 4: it's well, it goes back to the Hey, what would
Speaker 4: your little league coach say? And when you're an on
Speaker 4: deck circle, make him throw your strike? Yeah, make it
Speaker 4: take it, throws your strike, you know, and you did,
Speaker 4: or you do the ninth hitter who was afraid to
Speaker 4: go to the plate and you're talking, Hey, it's okay,
Speaker 4: it's the balls there to swing it. Otherwise, if you
Speaker 4: don't like it, don't swing at it. Crouch down low
Speaker 4: in your stances and hope that the eighth grade pitcher
Speaker 4: can't hitch out. But in truth, yeah, you walk up
Speaker 4: prepared for that situation, and it was just because it
Speaker 4: was little league yoush of Hey, yeah, you know, make
Speaker 4: sure make sure he pintre throws your strike and walking
Speaker 4: around like a bugs bunny cartoon where keep walking if
Speaker 4: they're not going to throw strikes. But you know, I
Speaker 4: think that's part of the process. But you'll overlook that
Speaker 4: you're right. And this is the time when a game
Speaker 4: like that is when Joe spot can when I say,
Speaker 4: criticize this team because they just come off a big win,
Speaker 4: right and score a lot of runs as suppose if
Speaker 4: they'd got their brains beating in the game. It's like, well, okay,
Speaker 4: I don't need a browbeat them. So that's the time
Speaker 4: he brings up Okay, Jiner, let's think about the game
Speaker 4: situation Boom. Good coaching time when you where you can
Speaker 4: get their ear because they just had a good game.
Speaker 4: But you can coach them harder then because their their
Speaker 4: mind's not cluttered with oh gosh, we lost a game
Speaker 4: and we lost five or six or six or seven.
Speaker 4: So I would imagine you take advantage of that, But
Speaker 4: there's always something to find that's not what you want.
Speaker 4: But I'll take I'll take those kind of almal damn
Speaker 4: near double digits all the time. You give us that
Speaker 4: you don't even need all that give that this team
Speaker 4: go get on a run if they start swinging a
Speaker 4: bat like that.
Speaker 6: I was going to say, I mean, you put up
Speaker 6: nine runs, you feel good about your chances. I mean
Speaker 6: we you know, mentioned the record splits of when they
Speaker 6: score three or more runs, then they're what eleven and three,
Speaker 6: and then when they don't, their record is a little
Speaker 6: bit more shunder.
Speaker 4: Five hundred, right, yeah, by by a fairly decent amount.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think by the stat you read.
Speaker 7: So.
Speaker 4: Yeah, moral of the story is, put put up four runs,
Speaker 4: you got a chance to win it all. And when
Speaker 4: you get a pitching performance like that, that's when Frommer's
Speaker 4: at his best. You're going to get ground balls and
Speaker 4: you're going to get a very few guys on base
Speaker 4: other than a couple walks. That's that's how he went
Speaker 4: five five guys what he walked two or three but
Speaker 4: struck out his you know, he's still worthy of to
Speaker 4: nine ten strikeouts when he's got stuff like that. But
Speaker 4: seven innings, did his gig and got run support. That'll
Speaker 4: win a lot of games.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 6: Plus, I mean, we saw a few more baseballs on
Speaker 6: the ground, which it's like, if you're talking about that's
Speaker 6: from that's a problem.
Speaker 4: If the balls down like that and you're getting ground
Speaker 4: ball after ground ball and double play opportunities, that's who he.
Speaker 6: Is, for sure, for sure, So the astro is able
Speaker 6: to wine. Yesterday the Fred van Vliet deadline for the
Speaker 6: team option with the Rockets. It's been pushed back to
Speaker 6: next month. In the Texans resigned defensive tackle fully fought Akosi,
Speaker 6: speaking of fromber mean, let's talk about just how good
Speaker 6: that guy was yesterday and exactly what you needed out
Speaker 6: of him.
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Speaker 1: And we're the Shawn Salisbury Show continued. Do we need
Speaker 1: it with them?
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. I'm just trying to get believe
Speaker 4: good songwriters. They are all right, and they do a
Speaker 4: lot of good collapse they do, you know, so I'll
Speaker 4: give them credit for that. Energet They bring some good
Speaker 4: energy as much I can say who got the bar
Speaker 4: in Nashville because they didn't have I was going to
Speaker 4: say that went south like that sound like a bad marriage.
Speaker 4: Who gets the family piano here? You know? And they
Speaker 4: had it all. I mean, everybody loved them. I mean
Speaker 4: I'm talking about yeah, their peeps. It it was good.
Speaker 4: It was good summertime bubble gum country music there to
Speaker 4: to us now what the Beg's were to us in
Speaker 4: the seventies, and then the Begs became classic. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 4: they were bubble gum then. Yeah. So it's like, you know,
Speaker 4: in the moment, you don't appreciate it. Later you do
Speaker 4: more than you can even imagine. Yes, but Ophelia Ophelia. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but I uh, you know Florida Georgia liked the breakups,
Speaker 4: man egos, politics, uh huh. I think that was part
Speaker 4: of the case. That was what they Yeah, and then
Speaker 4: then didn't you know you've got people you know, battling,
Speaker 4: no what, just but the comeback, if you'll make the comeback,
Speaker 4: it gets a good pr MoU make the comeback, you
Speaker 4: probably make double the money.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, like we saw it a few years
Speaker 6: ago with Motley Crue where they played their last show
Speaker 6: in twenty fifteen, I think. And then The Dirt, the
Speaker 6: biopic that wasn't a full on documentary, it was just
Speaker 6: you know, other people acting as them, and and that
Speaker 6: came out and that had people listening to Kickstart my
Speaker 6: Heart and everything again. So then finally Nikki and everybody
Speaker 6: were like, well, guys, and be honest here, there's some
Speaker 6: money to be made here if we want to do this.
Speaker 6: So they were like, yeah, yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 4: Best friends. Just sometimes that intensity'll give you even a
Speaker 4: better concert because you're like, you know, he's a little
Speaker 4: rage at it when you're talking about that, and you
Speaker 4: know there's just such a motley crew.
Speaker 6: What correct me up about it because I went and
Speaker 6: saw him play and they played here in Houston too.
Speaker 6: I do remember that. But like where people, Oh, Vince
Speaker 6: can't hit the high notes anymore. He's not twenty five anymore.
Speaker 6: That's why he reached puberty. So yeah, you can't go.
Speaker 6: He can't take his voice there anymore. Again, go, so
Speaker 6: you do have the female backup singers who will kind
Speaker 6: of like fill that in a little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's okay, And that's fine, that's okay, you got it. Hey,
Speaker 4: you've got to play the hand dog.
Speaker 6: And when I and when we went and saw him,
Speaker 6: Mick Mars, who's like eighty now, so you see him
Speaker 6: up there playing the guitar, well, I mean yeah, I
Speaker 6: mean he just he looks like a grandpa up there,
Speaker 6: and he's just you know, he's got the tattoos everything.
Speaker 4: That's it. Let him shred that's it. There's no age
Speaker 4: limit on shredding. I wouldn't think so, okay. I mean
Speaker 4: I think the only age limit is the one that
Speaker 4: you put on yourself in that regard. Not good, I'm
Speaker 4: too old.
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe it's Gary v who knows, you know, we
Speaker 6: saw him on TV yesterday. Maybe maybe that's something he'd say,
Speaker 6: or or even is it Tony Robbins.
Speaker 4: Would would even be him, could be all real tall.
Speaker 4: He's got a set of choppers on him. Sure does.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't know. It's like the family guys
Speaker 4: a picture of him up there. They asked who it
Speaker 4: is to say, well, that's either mister ed Or or
Speaker 4: Tony Robbins.
Speaker 6: And he put a He put a curse on Jack
Speaker 6: Black too. You know, I always love that, Jason Alexander,
Speaker 6: What did you do with my friend?
Speaker 4: Jack Black? Made him see the inner beauty in people?
Speaker 4: He does have some veneers, now he doesn't. He's veneered out, okay,
Speaker 4: but he's still motivational. That's all I care. That's it.
Speaker 4: I can see through the teeth, but yeah he can't.
Speaker 4: So but in truth, Dan, this, I don't know where
Speaker 4: we went with this rock and roll babet being break up? Yeah?
Speaker 4: You know he gets you in your fields hollow? Are
Speaker 4: you more of the did you like the dark haired hall?
Speaker 7: Is?
Speaker 4: He no hauls the blonde? Right? It's right the other
Speaker 4: way right? Think so I'd have to look it up.
Speaker 4: Who made you? Who bricked you up a little more?
Speaker 4: I mean when you checked about who made which? Neither?
Speaker 4: But I just really enjoyed their music. I mean when
Speaker 4: you looked at him, you said, man, watch one of
Speaker 4: those guys were there. You know, one's got the bust
Speaker 4: stache of the the blake jacket of the has got
Speaker 4: the feathered parted down the middle. But it's pretty much
Speaker 4: like one of those like, what what's your type?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Probably lot to the tables both. So would you take
Speaker 4: after take a right? When you check said, let me
Speaker 4: figure out what he and they're hitting the good bar
Speaker 4: A good good look at that duet. But then you said,
Speaker 4: well which one off it makes you hoardy? Yeah, which
Speaker 4: was like I said, I would probably say neither, And
Speaker 4: I'm actually gonna go ahead and take this step further.
Speaker 6: There's no there's there's there's no probably in there. I'm
Speaker 6: just gonna go with neither.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I appreciate your music, but but why the world
Speaker 4: do you always tell me you were used to be
Speaker 4: attracted to part of down the middle feathered on the
Speaker 4: sides when that would happened to that? Why why don't
Speaker 4: you listen? Don't cheat the peeps? What you doubt me?
Speaker 4: During the break about man that hall guy with the
Speaker 4: feathered and party.
Speaker 6: Hey, what did Rocky people change? Actually, it wasn't rock
Speaker 6: that said that. It was a tweeter that said that.
Speaker 6: The John the box there there you go. You know,
Speaker 6: things change marks. Yeah, who that give people the reference?
Speaker 6: A lot of people don't know.
Speaker 4: Oh oh, our audience knows. Your tweeter is Festy Blues.
Speaker 4: There you go. James CON's son, Scott Scotty Kahn. Yeah,
Speaker 4: a little hawaifi. Oh guy, yeah he was, he was
Speaker 4: Dan O's right, it's correct. There you go. Of course,
Speaker 4: I just wanted to make sure, like if it was
Speaker 4: a Haul or Oats that you were you know, there
Speaker 4: they got you. You know, they moved your needle. That
Speaker 4: didn't sound right. They backed that up a little bit,
Speaker 4: moved the needle. I mean, if it works for you. Yeah,
Speaker 4: there you go.
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna They're both still alive, right, yeah, they're
Speaker 6: both still alive. And then I want to say, Darryl
Speaker 6: Hall just played here. I think Daryl Hall is the Blonde.
Speaker 4: Again.
Speaker 6: I'd have to look it up, but he just played here.
Speaker 6: We gave away tickets. It was like a month ago.
Speaker 4: Then it just doesn't sound the same Hall without Oats.
Speaker 4: Now you know what I'm saying you have to have
Speaker 4: you have to have a little bit of that crooning
Speaker 4: ladies and gentlemen, Gladys Knight right without without pips. I
Speaker 4: was going to say, where the pips, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: Our girls silly called in and said Hall is the
Speaker 8: blonde one.
Speaker 4: There you go, yeah, Darryl Hall, right right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: It was the Oats that probably, I think Oats breacked
Speaker 4: me up a little bit.
Speaker 6: I think what the issue was was, you know that
Speaker 6: you finally had Oates was like.
Speaker 4: Why is he always first?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Why does he first? And also like I think Hall
Speaker 4: sits in front of the pig. Isn't Oats the one
Speaker 4: standing up the time? Yeah? What?
Speaker 9: What?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 4: Are a complete buzzkill for Oates? I mean, yeah, Oates,
Speaker 4: I mean I can understand they probably call him otz probably.
Speaker 4: I mean I can understand his argument a little bit
Speaker 4: more than I could, like, say, like if the Heartbreakers
Speaker 4: had gone up to Tom Petty and been like, hey,
Speaker 4: why isn't that the Heartbreakers and Tom Petty because you're
Speaker 4: not the star of the show, because I'm Tom frigger Petty. Right,
Speaker 4: It's like I told you that this story. I think
Speaker 4: I've shared it on here of David Hasselhoff. I think
Speaker 4: we know who David hasse They do they do? They love,
Speaker 4: they love the Hoff.
Speaker 6: Then he became Mitch Buchanan on Baywatch, but that he
Speaker 6: wasn't very happy with this compensation with NBC when he
Speaker 6: was doing Night Writer. So his agent went to Brandon Tartakoff,
Speaker 6: who was the head of the studio, and was like, hey,
Speaker 6: my my clients, you know, feels like he's being underpaid.
Speaker 6: He's he's prepared to walk if you guys don't meet
Speaker 6: his demands. And Tartakoff looked at his client, or looked
Speaker 6: at his agent, and said, tell your client, star of
Speaker 6: the show is the car and if he still wants
Speaker 6: to be employed, he'll be on set tomorrow morning at
Speaker 6: eight am.
Speaker 4: And where was David Hasseloff right next to Kit on
Speaker 4: set at eight am, wearing the leather jacket ready to
Speaker 4: get inside Kit's right? Who do you think was who
Speaker 4: do you think pulled more Hasselhoff or enter prime? Pam Anderson?
Speaker 6: Oh Man, Well, I mean we've got you know, we've
Speaker 6: got the film on on Pam And I'm not saying
Speaker 6: that to be fun. We literally have the tape I'd
Speaker 6: go with the Hoff. You think Hoff pulled bar in Pam, Yeah,
Speaker 6: because of me. Hey, I know he's maybe hot. And
Speaker 6: Germans loved David Hasselhof.
Speaker 4: They do. I got to remind you that I'm gonna
Speaker 4: say Pam Anderson probably pulled more than hassel Off.
Speaker 6: I mean, she seemed pretty monagamous though she stayed with
Speaker 6: Tommy all those years.
Speaker 4: You know, I didn't say this is just all It's
Speaker 4: not did she go out and actually hoe out? I
Speaker 4: just said who can pull? Who pulls more? If they
Speaker 4: were if they were wanted to pull, who pulls more? Oh,
Speaker 4: that's that's not yeah said, that's not who was a
Speaker 4: bigger hole? Wanted to know. It's we always play the
Speaker 4: game of who pulls more? Meaning if they walked into
Speaker 4: a bar and he said, okay, i'll see you later on,
Speaker 4: who would pull more? Oh, Pammy Anderson. Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 4: You know, it's not about what their marital status. It's
Speaker 4: like if they were if they were pulling, who would
Speaker 4: pull more when they walked in?
Speaker 8: Our guys Scott called in. He said that Oates was
Speaker 8: a total leech. He said that Darryl Hall wrote all
Speaker 8: of this or most of the songs, so.
Speaker 4: He glombed on Darryl Hall. Hall's the whole king of
Speaker 4: the show. You're just here. Yeah, Oates is just a
Speaker 4: warm body. That's it. Just armonize and shut up that.
Speaker 4: He basically said, the breaking news hit the sounder. Hall
Speaker 4: did it all. That's it the shirt tomorrow, Hall did
Speaker 4: it all, and we'll have Oats over there like me
Speaker 4: like or or on Haul's back. You're back to the championship,
Speaker 4: yad man. I wonder what Oats's response to that is, Hey,
Speaker 4: you gotta know your role and play your role. I
Speaker 4: didn't know that about Ots was he was a real
Speaker 4: locker room cancer, that guy was. That's that's that's what
Speaker 4: we found we we now found out this. But this
Speaker 4: is such a buzzkill to me. A caller tells us
Speaker 4: that Oates is a leech. It was Robinson wanting as
Speaker 4: much as Batman, it was Luigi wanting as much as
Speaker 4: Mario Man. That's a taiale. As old as time cuts
Speaker 4: me deep, he was the one I thought I might
Speaker 4: have pulled the hot card. But let me get back
Speaker 4: to Hall. Okay, let me go back to Hall. I'm
Speaker 4: investigate Hall though.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he's he's the glue guy happened. But you know, Oates,
Speaker 6: you just didn't really understand that. What can we do?
Speaker 6: We can we You can only help yourself. We can't
Speaker 6: help you.
Speaker 4: Look what a hal elks haul at Oates song led to? Yeah,
Speaker 4: and we figured out that Oates is a leech. This
Speaker 4: show rolls, this show rules unbelieves were off the charts. Hey,
Speaker 4: you know that Oates was a leech. That's great. We
Speaker 4: get the DOSSI on. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 4: I don't even have to watch the behind the music.
Speaker 4: I just got it right there.
Speaker 6: Anyway, let's get back into diastros conversation if you want
Speaker 6: seven one three two one two five seven ninety. Once
Speaker 6: again that seven one three two one two five seven ninety.
Speaker 1: He wasn't good.
Speaker 4: He was something else. We'll talk about it right here.
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Speaker 1: This is this Seawan Salisbury show.
Speaker 4: He is uh. I think kind of an understated talent too,
Speaker 4: don't you? Oh?
Speaker 6: Very yeah, because I mean I think most people remember
Speaker 6: him for his more recent stuff of tears in Heaven,
Speaker 6: you know, because obviously for you know, an awful so emotional.
Speaker 4: I mean that's too, that's too real. Yeah, that's too real. No,
Speaker 4: what I'm saying is meaning that that's story is not
Speaker 4: made out of just making something like that guy that
Speaker 4: that was well too close to home for anybody.
Speaker 6: I mean especially too. I mean there's people out there
Speaker 6: who know that feeling.
Speaker 4: Absolutely sad, very so. But I can't imagine how you
Speaker 4: wrote the song.
Speaker 6: Well, I think that was part of the how you
Speaker 6: performed it, right, that's part of the therapy of it. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean it's kind of a way of like you
Speaker 6: to be able to, hey, this is this is me
Speaker 6: working through my grief right here and letting them know
Speaker 6: that I still think about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's but the emotion to be just to
Speaker 4: get through, you know, with the three minutes or four
Speaker 4: minutes of the song tough to be on a on
Speaker 4: a more lighter note, the Thunder because I'm going to Vegas.
Speaker 4: Can I still get your season tickets? That can borrow
Speaker 4: them from the Thunder down Under? Could? I You've mentioned
Speaker 4: Thunder and I thought, oh man, I'm still gonna let
Speaker 4: me have his season tickets for one show. Yeah. I
Speaker 4: was tricked in the paper to a p s L
Speaker 4: for that one after.
Speaker 6: You know, Blue Man Group, you know, I'd only gone
Speaker 6: for so long.
Speaker 4: Tell the truth, you had that one in Blue Man
Speaker 4: group tricked you into, but it wasn't thundered out or
Speaker 4: you got I thought you well, you told me you
Speaker 4: used to have like in row ten, and then you
Speaker 4: decided you got to move up.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they gave me the options, so I went with it.
Speaker 6: And you know, I'll come from so I can go appreciate.
Speaker 6: I don't hate. I'm just I'm just making it because.
Speaker 4: I got my buddy from you. I gotta go got
Speaker 4: my buddy Vinnie from Jersey Shore on me too. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean season tickets, yeah, you know like Lakers Fenway
Speaker 4: Park right here at dyk In Park, little hockey, So
Speaker 4: maybe we Detroit wherever we want, Chicago maybe maybe even
Speaker 4: you know Buffalo Sabers right right have that. But then
Speaker 4: my favorite season ticket that we always talk about is
Speaker 4: your your thunder down under that. But those are I
Speaker 4: can't wait to youze them. I mean the way you
Speaker 4: tell I mean, I don't know how you. I mean,
Speaker 4: you've followed them around more than Bill's that guy again
Speaker 4: or actually no they're Australian. There's that guy again. But
Speaker 4: how selfish you've been with those tickets. Did how many
Speaker 4: times can you go? You got merch everything, send it
Speaker 4: numerous times if you want to go. Man, just to
Speaker 4: ask please, I wanna get out there. Don't give me
Speaker 4: all The lady wants to go see it. I know
Speaker 4: really wants to go see It's about more of my
Speaker 4: golf buddies. Yeah, it's like three years I've been asking
Speaker 4: for a ticket. You're like, no, dude, I go. I'm
Speaker 4: there all the time. I'm like, dad, share some thundered
Speaker 4: down under. You say, well I did. I moved my
Speaker 4: seats up to the first row. Hang out. You're said,
Speaker 4: that's one of the that's a that's a precious season.
Speaker 4: It's like the Masters. Well, I'll tell you I have
Speaker 4: a thundered down priceless about once they start playing, everybody's
Speaker 4: working for the weekend. You want to talk about how
Speaker 4: that theater goes into a frenzy. I mean you know,
Speaker 4: I mean you got you got season tickets. I can't
Speaker 4: wait to be frenzied. Man. I'll report back to you.
Speaker 4: Do we get free food down there and stuff? Or
Speaker 4: do we gotta go if you want to eat there? Yeah,
Speaker 4: especially in the first row.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say maybe maybe eat before you
Speaker 6: get your seats, get your seats and enjoy the show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but great, thanks for your I really appreciate your
Speaker 4: You're such a giver. Dad. Hey, you got to give
Speaker 4: the people what they want. And if people want, are
Speaker 4: they expensive? Uh no, they didn't send me back too much. Yeah,
Speaker 4: a couple of hundred thousand a year show. But hey,
Speaker 4: who's count right? You know you love that. I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't get into another man's wallet. Man, you know, tickets. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm with you, man, But thanks, I appreciate it. I'm
Speaker 4: looking forward to going and seeing it.
Speaker 6: Hopefully, get get some get some good eats out there,
Speaker 6: some good drink, you know, maybe maybe a couple of
Speaker 6: table games there, and then go see Thunder down Under.
Speaker 4: Is it's a good trick? Is it worth going twice?
Speaker 4: Or sh I just go once? I think once you've
Speaker 4: seen it once. I think I think you've seen it enough.
Speaker 4: You know, speak for yourself to that's it. That's it.
Speaker 4: You know, some some have their vices. What can we say? Well,
Speaker 4: I don't hate you for it? No, no, how could you?
Speaker 6: Anyway, Well, we'll get into some astros discussion here and
Speaker 6: also be able to squeeze in some of the other
Speaker 6: things that are on the topic list here today. So
Speaker 6: we've got all of that right here at seven o'clock
Speaker 6: hour on the Sean Salisbury Show coming up next day.
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Speaker 6: The Astros nine to one winners over the Brewers, salvage
Speaker 6: a game in that series off today, Rockets pushing back
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Speaker 6: seven ninety the number two get in the front Sean.
Speaker 6: I hadn't really had a chance to get much into
Speaker 6: that this morning, but I threw it out on Twitter yesterday,
Speaker 6: where I've numerous times used the hashtag good Fromber, and
Speaker 6: it's like, hey, we need good Fromber today.
Speaker 4: That's what we need. Good Frommer's what thirty million dollar pitcher.
Speaker 4: Good Fromber will get you paid. Yes, absolutely, good Frommer
Speaker 4: gives you a chance to win games. He's getting ground balls,
Speaker 4: maybe a couple of miss swings, you know, all of
Speaker 4: those things. That's that's good Fromber. Yep, he was great
Speaker 4: Fromber yesterday. Ye gives hashtag great farmer and the fromber
Speaker 4: that John Smoltz thinks is as good as there is
Speaker 4: in baseball. And the problem is John also loves the
Speaker 4: right hander that comes after. And John's pretty I don't
Speaker 4: want to say critical, but but I I the best
Speaker 4: in the bit and why wouldn't he be?
Speaker 6: It's the old I know how to do it, so
Speaker 6: of course, don't you think I know what I'm well?
Speaker 4: He also knows how to do it as a starter
Speaker 4: and a closer, and the approach of mechanics is a
Speaker 4: golfer and a pitcher the broadcast new studies every team
Speaker 4: and everything and a freak show fanatic on preparation, and
Speaker 4: he knows how to teach it in short period stints
Speaker 4: in between pitches. Right, So he loves him, I mean obviously.
Speaker 4: And heck, if Smoltzy was the guy giving us the
Speaker 4: you know, making the final vote on the one two
Speaker 4: you want your lineup for your lefty righty, I got
Speaker 4: news for you. There ain't three teams rolling by without
Speaker 4: him missioning this team when they're at the best. He
Speaker 4: thinks both of them are frontline aces, right, and that's
Speaker 4: saying something. But the guy you saw yesterday is the
Speaker 4: guy that that's the maddening part of it for me
Speaker 4: when I see it, I've now got the ten carrot
Speaker 4: diamond rings sitting in front of me man or whatever,
Speaker 4: you know, the pot of gold, right, and then I'll
Speaker 4: see the other side of him, And that's the side
Speaker 4: that makes you go pay one hundred and fifty bucks
Speaker 4: an hour to lay on somebody's couch and say, talk
Speaker 4: me through it. This guy's so good. How we're the
Speaker 4: lapses And I'm not talking about the one. Hey, you
Speaker 4: roll into Fenway, the winds blowing out, you get a
Speaker 4: few pitches up, and before you know it, you're down
Speaker 4: twelve to one because they're having one of those days.
Speaker 4: And they're pretty good, right. Who doesn't have that. Nolan
Speaker 4: Ryan will have one, Bob Gibson will have one, Randy
Speaker 4: Johnson'll have one. But by the third ending you're like, dude,
Speaker 4: you just still have it today. Well, okay, those happen.
Speaker 4: It's the frequency of the the extremes. Right now, he'll
Speaker 4: eat innings regardless, but the extremes of and you know
Speaker 4: when his emotions get a little sideways, right, And if
Speaker 4: you ever were to match the emotion with the fluid
Speaker 4: wind up and the strikes and keep the ball where
Speaker 4: he's thought to where he wants if that would have
Speaker 4: met that poison comm when he pitches it first, you
Speaker 4: feel really calm because you think, least the ball stand
Speaker 4: in the ballpark, right, And so there's that calm if
Speaker 4: is if that part of his emotion when he throws
Speaker 4: a bad pitch, Okay, he gave up home run, it's
Speaker 4: all right, and just gets right back into it. When
Speaker 4: those two if they ever come together, or I can
Speaker 4: take it. I mean, there's some guys that you can
Speaker 4: look at and say, Okay, that guy, just the way
Speaker 4: he goes about his business, you know, oh, give give
Speaker 4: him a little bit of a hundred browns of that
Speaker 4: part of it, right, and because that farmer's not far
Speaker 4: off from it. But it's those little things that I
Speaker 4: think mess you know best. It's not even the big thing.
Speaker 4: It's not like somebody hit two grand slams off. It's
Speaker 4: a little stupid stuff, and it's like, and I can
Speaker 4: raise my hand of that in a different way. I
Speaker 4: had a time and I went to it and I
Speaker 4: don't know why dan it hit like in the early
Speaker 4: middle of my career, right, maybe even early. Is that
Speaker 4: all the things you know you do and you can do,
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden you go into a
Speaker 4: little slump where you're like not pulling the trigger, squeezing
Speaker 4: it too hard and as a quarterback saying, there's no difference.
Speaker 4: So you're pared by analytics, right, and you're overthinking everything
Speaker 4: and I couldn't. There's a period of time where it
Speaker 4: was like, you throw a bad ball and the old
Speaker 4: the guy a week ago, it's a call. You know,
Speaker 4: we get the yips too, right, like a putter. The
Speaker 4: guy a week ago would have said, I don't I'm
Speaker 4: throwing a second one, because I've always had a little
Speaker 4: bit of a gun slinger approach to playing shocker, right.
Speaker 4: So but then that then it got the point of
Speaker 4: going over there, mulling it over. How'd you miss that
Speaker 4: curl route that you'd make the throw in your sleep,
Speaker 4: And then the next time there's a flat route and bloom,
Speaker 4: you'd open too far and yanke it into the ground
Speaker 4: or miss a little high, or the guy catches it
Speaker 4: but it's a little behind him, so it's a catching
Speaker 4: attack instead of catching a run for a first down.
Speaker 4: Now we're hunting, and so you go through those things
Speaker 4: and it's like, man and I let those fester as
Speaker 4: opposed to moving on and the cheesiest you know what's bigger,
Speaker 4: the windshield or the rear view mirror, the windshields to
Speaker 4: look through. That didn't get over him fast enough for
Speaker 4: a stint of time, and then you wake up one
Speaker 4: day and say, this isn't happen anymore. I got to
Speaker 4: go back to being me and you hopefully do right.
Speaker 4: But that's him that if he just would get out
Speaker 4: of his own way and whatever that is. You have
Speaker 4: two cy young candidates on this team, legitimate I'm talking
Speaker 4: about lights out in the you have. I'm not comparing
Speaker 4: him in their careers, but you have the same high
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, Heisman, you have the same cy
Speaker 4: young feelings you had with Verlander and Cole on the
Speaker 4: same staff that either one could win it any year
Speaker 4: they pitched. Sure, they're not there yet with the length
Speaker 4: of their careers, but you get my point right, and
Speaker 4: you have that, and if you get that from fromber
Speaker 4: everything else becomes easy for the rest of the start.
Speaker 4: I'm just convinced he is such a key to this
Speaker 4: because you're running him out there. I mean is you
Speaker 4: see this stuff for me yesterday? You can't RESI the
Speaker 4: dangling carrot of gosh, this guy's so good. And that's
Speaker 4: going to come a problem when they decide if they
Speaker 4: don't know, if they're sitting on the fence. That's what
Speaker 4: they're gonna have to deal with in these negotiations. Is
Speaker 4: he worth it? Is he school? Is he that guy
Speaker 4: where he's a dominant left hander in baseball? And can
Speaker 4: he sustain it? That's what they know he can. Can
Speaker 4: he sustain it? It's the big deal. Well, it's also I.
Speaker 6: Mean, there's a couple of different things that will get
Speaker 6: him to have his flare ups out there. Maybe it's
Speaker 6: a borderline pitch that was called a ball, and sometimes
Speaker 6: that sends him behind the mound where he tries to
Speaker 6: compose himself and you're like, oh, I hope we still
Speaker 6: get the dominant guy when he gets back up on
Speaker 6: the rubber.
Speaker 4: And then the other one was how fitting is it?
Speaker 6: It seems like every single one of his starts he
Speaker 6: has one of those tappers up the third base line
Speaker 6: about halfway up, and it's just like, ah, that's what
Speaker 6: kind of like, you know, it annoys them, you know
Speaker 6: it like he either throws it away swinging tapper.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then sometimes he'll grab it and wheel and
Speaker 4: throw it into right down down the right field line.
Speaker 4: But then yesterday he gets that, he gets that ball,
Speaker 4: fires off the mound and throws him out and they,
Speaker 4: you know, go to replay and still call him out.
Speaker 4: And I'm just like, you know what, I can't think
Speaker 4: of a better way to end today. Like as soon
Speaker 4: as that happened, I was like, seven innings, he's done,
Speaker 4: get him out right right and then and he did
Speaker 4: his thing, and he did his thing all all seven innings.
Speaker 4: So impressive. That guy makes you that guy, that guy
Speaker 4: right there says man paying before he hits free, you know,
Speaker 4: of course, but that's gonna be a decision they're gonna
Speaker 4: have to make. They if that's the guy you get
Speaker 4: ninety percent of the time or eighty percent of time,
Speaker 4: he's gonna make thirty million bucks.
Speaker 6: He's gonna I mean, it's one of those you know,
Speaker 6: difficult that you hear, you know, front offices talk about
Speaker 6: all the time pitches like that, and we get the
Speaker 6: majority of that for.
Speaker 4: The rest of the way. Put it this way, regardless
Speaker 4: of what happens here, somebody is going to throw a
Speaker 4: huge load at him because he's a lefty. The huge load. Yeah,
Speaker 4: let me back that up. Throw a huge load of
Speaker 4: cash at him. What do you mean cash or something? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: back it up, bron I was talking about. Back up
Speaker 4: that Brinks truck right to get paid at the back.
Speaker 4: He's gonna get the bag, right, He's going to get
Speaker 4: a big bag, whether it's here somewhere else. Even if
Speaker 4: he doesn't pitch cy young basement, if he pitches just
Speaker 4: decent the rest of the year, he's getting paid because
Speaker 4: he's a lefty. And you've seen flashes of more than
Speaker 4: flashes of oh my gosh, brilliance. So he's getting paid.
Speaker 4: The question is how much and where you want to
Speaker 4: make it to the show?
Speaker 6: Start throwing left handed or if you are left handed,
Speaker 6: start pitching.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and keep the ball down yep. And when he
Speaker 4: does that, you don't even have to throw. Now, if
Speaker 4: you're one hundred and five and you're Randy Johnson or
Speaker 4: Undtherd three that God bless you could throw strikes.
Speaker 6: Be that guy now, But I want to heads put
Speaker 6: the bat away. You want to make forty million dollars
Speaker 6: a year, do you want to try to hit a
Speaker 6: home run Every once in a while. I know another
Speaker 6: club you can cut a home run out if you
Speaker 6: want to hit a home run and yeah, or head
Speaker 6: on over to the driving range, pick up a seven
Speaker 6: iron and start beating balls.
Speaker 4: There you go. That didn't sound right either. We better
Speaker 4: get to break Now I'm backing up. You're going to
Speaker 4: get the load of cash and now we're beating balls
Speaker 4: on the range. There you go, there you go. Unbelievable.
Speaker 6: All right, this is a segment that I almost kind
Speaker 6: of feel like we can just call we found another
Speaker 6: idiot because this is Yeah, it's on a daily basis.
Speaker 6: Trust me, We've got plenty of them. It's right here.
Speaker 6: Sean Salisbury show.
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Speaker 1: The Jean Salsbury Show continues.
Speaker 9: All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now
Speaker 9: this sALS URIs takeout sells brief takeout on the Sean
Speaker 9: Salisbury Show.
Speaker 6: It is a Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talks seven ninety Astros,
Speaker 6: nine to one winners.
Speaker 4: Yesterday with the Brewers in Milwaukee.
Speaker 6: They're off today, Fred van Vliet and the team option
Speaker 6: deadline was supposed to be tomorrow. They're pushing it back
Speaker 6: to later next month. And fully fought a Cassi back
Speaker 6: to Texans on a one year deal. All Right, Sean,
Speaker 6: As I mentioned before, we stepped aside momentarily that we
Speaker 6: could pretty much call the steakeout now today's version of
Speaker 6: someone's an idiot, because I mean, we seriously get it
Speaker 6: every single day, and in this case today an international
Speaker 6: idiot because dateline here we go to the Philippines and
Speaker 6: this was a story through the Daily Mail. A twenty
Speaker 6: nine year old hops over in enclosure at a zoo
Speaker 6: attempting to take a photo with what he thought, at
Speaker 6: least to what his words were, was a fake alligator.
Speaker 6: He hops over the fence, gets in and there's a
Speaker 6: little pond right there and he decides, all right, I'm
Speaker 6: gonna take out my phone.
Speaker 4: I don't know if he goes vertical. I don't know
Speaker 4: if he goes horizontal.
Speaker 6: But then, you know, thinking to himself, all right, hey,
Speaker 6: you know, I'm gonna take a nice little selfie of
Speaker 6: me and the fake alligator. The alligator was not fake.
Speaker 6: The alligator then decided, Hey, that arm you got right there?
Speaker 6: Right or left, I don't really care. Kind of hungry.
Speaker 6: They fed me a little light today.
Speaker 4: Well, guess what you're new. He's no longer hungry. Oh,
Speaker 4: he is no longer hungry. That's the alligator just decided.
Speaker 4: This was in the Philippines. I was going to say,
Speaker 4: you were going to say Florida. You wanted to say Florida,
Speaker 4: but that probably will be some people.
Speaker 6: But the second best odds was Louisiana, Mississippi seems to
Speaker 6: kind of float under the radar for that.
Speaker 4: I got him right around my crib. I am we
Speaker 4: got him here too. Yeah, they're everywhere, So I uh,
Speaker 4: that's not real smart. But I guess that lesson learned.
Speaker 4: I would have think so I would have very much
Speaker 4: the hard way. Or I guess with his arm, I
Speaker 4: mean his arm is still intact. You still got the arm.
Speaker 6: But the alligator then decided, because what I have to
Speaker 6: believe the alligator was trying to do because people think,
Speaker 6: you know, oh, alligators they swallow people whole. Eventually, I
Speaker 6: think they get there. But what they do is they
Speaker 6: try to grab you, drown you, and then start to
Speaker 6: go to work.
Speaker 4: On It's the smartness of them. They're gonna They're gonna
Speaker 4: take the easy battle, right you, squishing and squirming and
Speaker 4: fighting back. But here's the other part of all of this,
Speaker 4: is there stupid people out there.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, yeah, that's that's a given on it.
Speaker 6: Fifty stitches is what he got. He's lucky, that's all
Speaker 6: I was gonna say. Yeah, and you think that's one
Speaker 6: of those two, either the nurse or the doctor whoever
Speaker 6: stitching them up that you know, if you've ever been
Speaker 6: to the doctor, like when I was dipping and I
Speaker 6: used to go to the dentist and I'd have the
Speaker 6: dental hygienist, you need to quit dipping.
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be a mother to you.
Speaker 6: And I'm like, well, then how about we just clean
Speaker 6: the teeth and then we can just keep it moving here?
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, this is one of those when they
Speaker 4: go in there they're stitching up saying you know what probably. Yeah,
Speaker 4: don't do this again. If you learn a lesson, you're lucky.
Speaker 4: It's fifty stitches and we're not putting a fake arm
Speaker 4: on you a different leg.
Speaker 6: Or or even you know. It seems like he needs
Speaker 6: in his life. He needs a John Dutton. Remember when
Speaker 6: Jamie gets hurt, like either on a bull or I.
Speaker 4: Forget what he what it was bull riding. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Jamie got hurt bull riding and Dutton tells
Speaker 6: him learn the rope.
Speaker 4: I'm not paying for this twice, right, that's exactly right. Now,
Speaker 4: he chewed his ass out? What did he What did
Speaker 4: was that when he was in the hospital bed. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he was went in there and visited him, said boom
Speaker 4: boom boom, got it, Just don't do it again. Yeah.
Speaker 6: And then Jamie of course tried to get on the
Speaker 6: Bucking Bronco got hurt again, and that's when John said,
Speaker 6: you're going to the four sixes. I have no use
Speaker 6: for you here anymore. Then he became a man, He
Speaker 6: became a cowboy. They turned him into the real thing.
Speaker 4: That's it. Where's that real ranch exists? Where is it
Speaker 4: that shared his ranch in real life?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I don't think it's far from San Saba, but the
Speaker 4: hell San Saba. It's like northwest Texas. Okay, so on
Speaker 4: the way from here longer? Oh no, like what you said,
Speaker 4: West Texas? Yeah, northwest okay. So yeah, hey, we're headed
Speaker 4: towards the Lubbock and then that route mid Midland Odessa.
Speaker 4: Gotcha out there in true oil. Yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 4: the rolling plains, it's all of that. So they're out there.
Speaker 4: But that, yeah, that's exactly right. So lesson learned in
Speaker 4: your fortune. Fifty stitches. It'll make for a good story,
Speaker 4: but the second time that that happens, it probably won't
Speaker 4: end in fifty stitches if you're an idiot. Here's the
Speaker 4: thing that I can't get out of my head. Here
Speaker 4: is because you know this was a human doing this.
Speaker 4: That happens all the time, and.
Speaker 6: That part doesn't shock me, right, but it's We've been
Speaker 6: to Houston Zoo for example, right, I've been there numerous
Speaker 6: times as a kid.
Speaker 4: All all of that.
Speaker 6: When whenever you have a fake animal, are they ever
Speaker 6: in the enclosure? No, they're right there near the enclosure.
Speaker 6: Like if it was a fake alligator, well then it's
Speaker 6: right there. And if you're really so hard up to
Speaker 6: get a picture with an alligator. Do what me and
Speaker 6: the missus did when we went down to South Florida.
Speaker 6: We did this off to her and then they bring
Speaker 6: one of the tape mouth shut little baby alligators.
Speaker 4: You get a picture with it. It's in truth, in
Speaker 4: no rush to get the picture. I mean if if
Speaker 4: you do and somebody's got one with it, but then
Speaker 4: with the mouth shut, it's like, well that takes away
Speaker 4: the excitement, right, So let's see if I can get
Speaker 4: the picture in before I get my shoulder chewed off off. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just there's a little common sense. I mean, there's
Speaker 4: a lot of things people do for memories. I can
Speaker 4: file that one in my mind. I don't need the
Speaker 4: picture to show it.
Speaker 6: I can get the selfie behind the enclosure.
Speaker 4: Sure, there you go. You know if somebody, hey, look
Speaker 4: at your thumb's pointing back at the in the enclosure,
Speaker 4: hints they're in there for a reason. Yeah, that one
Speaker 4: you mean? Yeah, okay, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's that's where can get I don't I
Speaker 6: don't have to have the lifelike experience right there. I
Speaker 6: don't need to be sometimes a lifelike lifelike experience isn't
Speaker 6: what you want. My little brother, we were living in
Speaker 6: Arizona and we had lived out in the country. When
Speaker 6: I say the country in Arizona was out. We had
Speaker 6: a couple acres, right, we have horses and pigs and
Speaker 6: chickens and on a farm. And there's a hand there
Speaker 6: are people everywhere, you know, every couple of acres. And
Speaker 6: one had some like monkeys on their farm. You know,
Speaker 6: they had they had a farm, but they also hadn't
Speaker 6: close monkeys. Awesome, and my little brother, dude, we went
Speaker 6: up there close. You know, they'd let you go around
Speaker 6: and look around.
Speaker 4: And another neighbor had like fifty stray dogs that kept
Speaker 4: trying to eat your chicken. So you can imagine what
Speaker 4: that was like having around with my old man and
Speaker 4: and so go and you're looking over there. You know,
Speaker 4: they got kind of a mini little mini little zoo
Speaker 4: right farm monkeys. My little brother it was like five
Speaker 4: or six time stuck his uh, got his head too close,
Speaker 4: turned around, the monkey grabbed him by the back of
Speaker 4: the hair. Dude, And I'm telling you now there was
Speaker 4: you wouldn't fire would to have happened to finally let
Speaker 4: him go That monkey and you know when they get
Speaker 4: you in your grid there there are they can be mean.
Speaker 4: And I right there and he was, and I mean
Speaker 4: he screaming and yelled, and you're you're trying to get
Speaker 4: away with the harder you try to pull, waiting for
Speaker 4: somebody to come out. And I'm telling you that monkey
Speaker 4: was not letting go. Finally they came. I got I
Speaker 4: mean chunk of hair. Thank good as the kids small,
Speaker 4: but I'm telling you the fear factory there might have
Speaker 4: been even the fear that hurt worse of the pulligue
Speaker 4: of the hair, because there's only so far you could
Speaker 4: pull it here that the cage right, and my brother's
Speaker 4: going crazy, and the morals is there's always that I'm
Speaker 4: not going to quite get as close to the cage
Speaker 4: because they're too athletic and they moved too quick. And
Speaker 4: then they're looking at you while they're doing it, like
Speaker 4: test me. You know what I'm saying. You don't want
Speaker 4: to hurt the animal, but you're like, you're you're scalping
Speaker 4: my kid. You know that's that's the monkey or the chimpost,
Speaker 4: not my kid. It was my kid brother. But yeah,
Speaker 4: you're you're scalping my brother here he's going crazy and
Speaker 4: up and said, you're backing away like my hair involved.
Speaker 4: But that's what we all had full heads of hair.
Speaker 4: That's that's the ape telling you I'm your boss. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm your boss, and they look at you and Daria.
Speaker 4: It was crazy and he never got close to a
Speaker 4: cage with the monkeys in it again, but Lesson learned
Speaker 4: at an early age.
Speaker 6: I mean it's like, you know, if you watched the
Speaker 6: Joe Exotic on on Netflix. I mean one of the
Speaker 6: ladies had their arms bitten off. Yeah, and then I
Speaker 6: mean he gets attacked a few times.
Speaker 4: Probably probably that's they're then they're too athletics to make Tiger.
Speaker 4: What are you doing? Yeah, stay out of the lions
Speaker 4: that guy.
Speaker 6: Man, it's just the amount of red neckedness that was
Speaker 6: in that documentary, like Bunny.
Speaker 4: Bounds, there's no question about it. By the way, to
Speaker 4: our small business owners out there, Good week, isn't it
Speaker 4: National small business owners? I believe so all of them
Speaker 4: out there across and we we deal with a lot
Speaker 4: of them here, So shoutouts to just our love for
Speaker 4: them because they make it go. They're they're not getting
Speaker 4: shop small business, they're not getting shoutouts or shoutouts. They're
Speaker 4: not getting selfies.
Speaker 6: Another s word with with with what they believe are
Speaker 6: fake alligators and enclosures.
Speaker 4: No thes and they got something else said yeah to
Speaker 4: our small business owners and those involved, thank you man,
Speaker 4: love you guys.
Speaker 6: That's like when we did that thing in South Florida.
Speaker 6: It was funny of the guy. You know, if you
Speaker 6: ever were chased by an alligator, they tell you to
Speaker 6: run zig zag, he goes. Honestly, just once it gets
Speaker 6: close to just step aside, they'll run right by you.
Speaker 6: And I was like, I don't think I want to
Speaker 6: find that out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's because at some point in time to
Speaker 4: practice it, you, I mean to get to see it,
Speaker 4: I actually have to practice it. Yeah. So if you
Speaker 4: practice it in one false step and you don't have
Speaker 4: a heel, that that's that that takes you to a
Speaker 4: whole new a whole new part process of you know,
Speaker 4: an Achilles injury. Not willing to risk it, brother, thank you,
Speaker 4: that's for real secret. Now, if I can get on
Speaker 4: his back and do that, we can try that. But
Speaker 4: I'm not going to wrestle with him. I'm going to
Speaker 4: leave that to somebody else. Who's a far dumber than me.
Speaker 4: I was going to say leave leave it, leave it
Speaker 4: too well. I mean I would say leave it to
Speaker 4: Steve Irwin. But yeah, too soon, too soon. Yeah, sorry,
Speaker 4: that's he's like, you got kids, you know, kids are
Speaker 4: off limits. Steve Irwin's off limits. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 6: I apologize to the crocodile hunter, his family and all
Speaker 6: the fans, and I give big ups to thank you.
Speaker 6: Look right, yeah, the big up, big ups to Steve.
Speaker 6: We see you up there, buddy, there you go, thank you.
Speaker 6: I like how your eyes went up there with some respect. Absolutely,
Speaker 6: absolutely you could go out. You can go over the
Speaker 6: line sometimes with Irwin. We're not treading there. Stay on
Speaker 6: this side, Dan, I try, I try.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 6: Coming up next, this guy's epic night had him feeling
Speaker 6: a lot of regrets about it.
Speaker 4: We'll talk about it here. Sean Salisbury show Jbarn Barbecue
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Speaker 4: what do you when you think about a restaurant? Well,
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Speaker 4: got a good one great parking lot, which is nice.
Speaker 4: You say, Sean, what's a big deal about a park lot?
Speaker 11: Go there?
Speaker 4: And see what the big deal is. You know, when
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Speaker 1: We're bat there. But the Sean Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 4: I mean it was. You gotta be awfully thick skinned, right,
Speaker 4: very much. I mean, it's real and the but it's
Speaker 4: also a roast at times, and you've got to be
Speaker 4: so thick skinned because family is not off limits at
Speaker 4: a roast. No, that's what I'm saying, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. So, I mean, you could be the most
Speaker 4: sensitive over something that happened a week ago, like a
Speaker 4: divorce or you're separated, and they will hey man, somebody
Speaker 4: else banging you.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. There will be They're relentless,
Speaker 4: and it's all Listen, the truth is it's all in
Speaker 4: good fun. The one thing we don't think about enough
Speaker 4: in a roast is the collateral damage to the other
Speaker 4: family if they're you know what I'm saying. If a
Speaker 4: kid's ten and they will what do they do with
Speaker 4: the dad ball? That could become a problem. But you know,
Speaker 4: anybody who's had that success, we all have the mahoney
Speaker 4: moments where it's like, Sean, you idiot, or you're laughing,
Speaker 4: just stupid moments when you were in the tenth grade
Speaker 4: with your four buddies. They all remember that time you
Speaker 4: run around your box, you know, stupid stuff right, and
Speaker 4: you make mistake, but they don't forget. I'll always remember
Speaker 4: the roast part of it. So I think they're cool
Speaker 4: as hell. But man, sometimes you're like, gosh, like, what's
Speaker 4: the comedian of the female's name? Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 4: all in with it and zero zero regard for any
Speaker 4: the bodies that are strewed all over.
Speaker 6: And it's you know, it's anytime there's a celebrity roast,
Speaker 6: you know that Jeff Jeff Ross is going to be
Speaker 6: involved in it. And as soon as they introduced him,
Speaker 6: I was like, of course, it's like, that's what this
Speaker 6: guy does he's like the celebrity roaster. I guess I
Speaker 6: don't know, but anyway, and he's priceless too with it.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, I mean, look, you know, you know
Speaker 4: you're laying you stay in it. Well.
Speaker 6: Tom Brady was recently on the Logan Paul Impulsive podcast
Speaker 6: and he said he actually regretted doing the roast, saying,
Speaker 6: when you're in the moment in that theater that night
Speaker 6: at the Forum, it was electric, it was crazy, we
Speaker 6: got done, everybody was on cloud nine. Then I that's
Speaker 6: the moment that I think I will never forget, and
Speaker 6: then I will never forget when I talked to my
Speaker 6: kids the next day, and I felt a steak go
Speaker 6: through my heart, understandably saying that he felt like a
Speaker 6: blank up as a parent afterwards, which it's like, I mean.
Speaker 4: That's that's the collateral damage I'm talking.
Speaker 6: Sure, I understand that, but I mean it's also though,
Speaker 6: like I mean, some of his kids are not necessarily
Speaker 6: old enough, Like I feel like.
Speaker 4: His oldest twelve or something. Well, it's got to be
Speaker 4: his first child with Bridget moynihan, with Mohan, Yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean I think like their first child, Like, no, I
Speaker 4: want to say, like it's in college now, like to
Speaker 4: was he wanted to Bungeon? Uh, he was with her.
Speaker 6: I'd have to look it up, but I mean the majority,
Speaker 6: so the majority of his kids are with her.
Speaker 4: But and the majority of his other kid's life he
Speaker 4: was with Jaselle Bungeon and you know fathering from you
Speaker 4: know with I think that the child spends a lot
Speaker 4: of time with His oldest son is seventeen. Okay, so
Speaker 4: that's that's that's he and Bridget moynihan from you know
Speaker 4: the the What's the Blue what's the movie with Tom Seller?
Speaker 4: This show with Tom Selleck? What do we call oh
Speaker 4: blue Blood blue Bloods. It's a great show. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: she's you know the d A, now the DA she
Speaker 4: was mediated, so she's the boss. But she's on there.
Speaker 4: So that's there. So they have a teenage kid who
Speaker 4: was roast was two years ago or so something like that.
Speaker 4: I think it was about these two years ago. So
Speaker 4: you got to think of fifteen, you're in that fragile mole.
Speaker 4: You just are. And I'm not saying you shouldn't do it.
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm trying to take okay when you're saying it,
Speaker 4: you got to know it's your daddy's famous, but think
Speaker 4: about it. If that kid's fifteen at the time, the
Speaker 4: other ones are ten, eight, seven, whatever. I think two
Speaker 4: or three other kids that are younger kids are ruthless
Speaker 4: at school. Oh sure, and that's what you could be doing.
Speaker 4: You think you're doing great parenting because you missed one
Speaker 4: or somebody brings up something from your past that you've
Speaker 4: never explained to your ten year old and then they
Speaker 4: hear it at school because their dad told the mom,
Speaker 4: and the mom's talking to kid and everybody kind and
Speaker 4: not saying it's it's fair. But when you're that kind
Speaker 4: of celebrity, you put it out, even if it could
Speaker 4: be something really stupid, dan or so something that you like.
Speaker 4: But then you got to think of Giselle Bungeon, regardless
Speaker 4: of why they she made whoever knows, because she I'm
Speaker 4: sure got her things too. And is she having another
Speaker 4: baby with her trainer? Is that she having a baby.
Speaker 4: Isn't she pregnant with his kid?
Speaker 11: Now?
Speaker 4: I don't know, I think so, I thought so so. Whoever,
Speaker 4: the reasons why they got divorce isn't what I'm talking about,
Speaker 4: but the fact that somebody is sitting home watching it's
Speaker 4: not like us. It would take it with a grain
Speaker 4: of salt. That's the fragile age of fifteen year olds, right.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if it bothered him or not,
Speaker 4: but my guess is when Tom said that, it's like
Speaker 4: when you go back and you're sitting by yourself rewatching it.
Speaker 4: It's funny at the expense of you. But then you
Speaker 4: got to think, well, it's kind of self serving because
Speaker 4: now if you're outside the relationship, now it's not that funny,
Speaker 4: sure for a kid. And then you got to go
Speaker 4: back to explain and he started, Then you start to
Speaker 4: go through that self doubt, like there raise my kids,
Speaker 4: right that I miss and everybody's gonna miss on certain
Speaker 4: things about raising your kid. And I don't think it's
Speaker 4: that serious from our vantage point. But remember the reason
Speaker 4: he said it. Is it something about it triggered and
Speaker 4: bothered him, or he wouldn't have said I regret doing
Speaker 4: it all the laughs and stuff. So there's something deep
Speaker 4: seated on this that I'm not a psychologist, but you
Speaker 4: wouldn't say that if the lasts were fun and he
Speaker 4: got in the moment all the hype. But it's I
Speaker 4: always say, like when I tell kids about social media quarterbacks,
Speaker 4: and I'll say it every clinic I've ever done, or
Speaker 4: every camp I've ever been, or a parent, if your
Speaker 4: mom or your grandma, you'd be ashamed to let them
Speaker 4: see it. Don't hit send. That may save you a
Speaker 4: lifetime of regret, or may save you a scholarship. Don't
Speaker 4: hit send. And that send is a like button because
Speaker 4: somebody was holding a beer at twelve and joking around
Speaker 4: or holding you know, I'm talking about all those things,
Speaker 4: the appearance of being around it. Those people will your scholar.
Speaker 4: They will not touch you. So there's that there's that
Speaker 4: part of it that you know, don't don't hit that button.
Speaker 4: And in this when you're sitting alone, you're going those
Speaker 4: kids and they're ruthless. So I don't know why, but
Speaker 4: I do get why he'd say, you know what, after
Speaker 4: seeing then you go on social media and see all
Speaker 4: the com shack gosh, this can be misconstrued. And that's
Speaker 4: the unfortunate part about it. I don't think he's bothered
Speaker 4: for him. I think it's part of the perception of
Speaker 4: what comes out from a comedian being a comedian doing
Speaker 4: their job.
Speaker 6: I feel like, though, like once they you know, they
Speaker 6: get into their twenties that it is kind of going
Speaker 6: to be family fodder of like, you know, dad, don't
Speaker 6: forget I know this about you.
Speaker 4: Here's what happens. Yeah, you take it from a guy
Speaker 4: who experienced it a different way. Okay, but similar If
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, I got you. So you
Speaker 4: go through it. There's that period of like damn, hurt
Speaker 4: and all those and then as they get older they
Speaker 4: realize and then they start they start realizing, oh, I
Speaker 4: understand what it's like to be a dad or to
Speaker 4: be you know, to be married or divorced or today.
Speaker 4: Then you start to see it and they're grown enough
Speaker 4: to handle it and say, you know, I'm a grown
Speaker 4: adult too. I went to college, right right. They said
Speaker 4: they roll through that, but at that fragile age, there
Speaker 4: is that period. I'm I assure you Tom's apologizing at
Speaker 4: times or trying to miss you know how we tread
Speaker 4: lightly when you're dealing with your kids on this, because
Speaker 4: whether it's kids or X, peace is important and it's
Speaker 4: the collateral damage. The grown adults can handle it. It's
Speaker 4: the collateral damage for kids that may be the problem.
Speaker 4: You always want them to think as your priority that
Speaker 4: they are the priority and they should be so I
Speaker 4: would imagine he's going through that. See, even the greatest
Speaker 4: quarterback of all time has insecurities and fears and bothered
Speaker 4: because it paints it different and sometimes perception to the
Speaker 4: person that's feeling it, it's reality, even though it may
Speaker 4: not be to the outside world. But it's just the
Speaker 4: age thing. If you're thirty and you're pissed at Tom,
Speaker 4: get over it. You deal It's not your life, you're
Speaker 4: as you're not the you know, the family counselor or
Speaker 4: the rest of it. They'll deal with it. But then
Speaker 4: on the other side, I get Wyatt because to everybody
Speaker 4: on the outside he led the life of perfection, supermodel him,
Speaker 4: married kids, all the money, superstar. But even he had
Speaker 4: those of you come home and you don't want to
Speaker 4: talk to your wife. You know, everybody goes through it,
Speaker 4: and then when it's painted as some of these great
Speaker 4: comedians can. You got to be careful what you sign
Speaker 4: on for. Man. I'm just glad that because I mean,
Speaker 4: I think Bill was what Jordan then I'm just glad
Speaker 4: that Jordan didn't try to hijack and be like, oh yeah,
Speaker 4: I remember this would have been like, you don't even
Speaker 4: know the guy. You don't even know the guy off
Speaker 4: the stage.
Speaker 6: Now, I know some people are gonna say, well, neither
Speaker 6: did Tony Hinchcliff or Nicky Glazier. They're comedians, they're professionals,
Speaker 6: they're funny. You are neither of those things.
Speaker 4: So I just laugh at who are you talking about,
Speaker 4: Jordan Nuts, Oh yeah, yeah, I just for me, I
Speaker 4: can imagine. I can't imagine what it's like to have
Speaker 4: to live that life that everything you do is microscope
Speaker 4: everything you do, Jordan Brady Woods, you can't live this
Speaker 4: more successful you are, the less freedom and piece you have. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I get it, I know, I know. Listen nobody. So
Speaker 4: I'm sorry for a guy who's you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Sure that there's still got to be that would it
Speaker 4: be cool just to walk into a movie theater not
Speaker 4: have to stop? And for those guys I'm talking about,
Speaker 4: there's got to be some parts that there is a
Speaker 4: price to be paid to be that good, well by
Speaker 4: sacrifices for family as well.
Speaker 6: You got the money by disguise. You don't get one
Speaker 6: of those mission impossible, man, Can.
Speaker 4: You imagine have to walk out of your thing every
Speaker 4: single time. Like that's my point is just when you
Speaker 4: and I can go out, nobody cares. They walk it.
Speaker 4: It's like it's an ordeal. I would imagine just to go,
Speaker 4: I gotta rent out the theater to watch a movie,
Speaker 4: right the Jason stathamsay, I mean, are you kidding?
Speaker 7: So?
Speaker 4: But the fact is you at the buddy to buy
Speaker 4: the theater. So if you're one of those guys, but
Speaker 4: there you can get. You get the price that that
Speaker 4: piece and that every everything your kids do, Oh you're
Speaker 4: so and so's dad and the pressure that has to
Speaker 4: be on them. Yeah, not easy, and kids are really
Speaker 4: they're ruthless. Yep, at that age for sure. For sure,
Speaker 4: we all went through it. It made us the It
Speaker 4: made us the people we are today. Carl, see you
Speaker 4: right there.
Speaker 6: We'll get you in on the conversation if you want
Speaker 6: to join in seven one three two one two five
Speaker 6: seven ninety seven one three two one two five seven
Speaker 6: ninety Dana Brown joining us nine thirty This Morning Today
Speaker 6: Here on a Thursday edition of The Shawn Stalisbury Show.
Speaker 9: Let the Celebration start war Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk
Speaker 9: seven ninety Carl, good morning man.
Speaker 12: That was a great monkey story. Tell Sean, because they
Speaker 12: bite two they're strong. But uh, they gave you a
Speaker 12: good experience. They didn't have glass on the cages or nothing.
Speaker 13: Little kids on our field trip went up to the
Speaker 13: page and the monkey bit the top of zero.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go. There you good story.
Speaker 13: But anyway, I called about how I think they're taking
Speaker 13: the human factor needs to be put back into to
Speaker 13: the NFL. Uh, you know on these guys, because look
Speaker 13: at Brady on nine pick sixth round and you know
Speaker 13: what his report was on the combine von weak arm
Speaker 13: and no athleticism.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how that turnout? Right? How that turnout? Yeah? It
Speaker 4: turned out pretty good for him.
Speaker 7: We go, Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 4: We go old school.
Speaker 7: And you remember a guy named Steve Largin.
Speaker 12: I don't know if you remember that Wi.
Speaker 4: He was my teammate my rookie year. So yes, I
Speaker 4: know him. Well, well let me.
Speaker 13: Tell you you know him about the history Charlotte.
Speaker 7: He couldn't even hardly run a.
Speaker 13: Five flat forty bum Phillips cut him from the Oilers.
Speaker 13: In fact, get to an Allers training camp. Bum said
Speaker 13: to everybody, he goes, Hey, that was the biggest mistake
Speaker 13: they ever made. Getting rid of that little you know what, and.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you something about him. Still still the best
Speaker 4: route runner I've ever been around, Largin, still the very best.
Speaker 13: Yes, Oh, I'm just giving y'all. You know, I think
Speaker 13: they need to put the human factor in and stop
Speaker 13: relying on statistical things.
Speaker 7: And you know there's some guys.
Speaker 12: When I played football years ago, they couldn't practice for
Speaker 12: the gang, but on game day made them guys look
Speaker 12: like superstars, you know. But anyway, I'm just giving y'all
Speaker 12: that human factor. I think we need it back. And
Speaker 12: a great report about that monkey Shan.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you, Carl, thank you. And yeah, that human factor.
Speaker 4: I think a lot of us crave that, don't you.
Speaker 4: What's the scout's eye here? Dana Brown talked about all
Speaker 4: the time, But I mean, which made them It's become
Speaker 4: And I don't want to say easier. It's become because
Speaker 4: there's so much information. But maybe that's not easier. Maybe
Speaker 4: with too much information, it's too clouded at times for
Speaker 4: for anybody in a leadership position in sports, right, so
Speaker 4: much information to go through. You don't want to lose
Speaker 4: the human touch, but you need the information to at
Speaker 4: least give you because if a decision it's been made
Speaker 4: and it's eighty percent of the time, or in investing,
Speaker 4: if I told you eighty five percent of the time
Speaker 4: you're winning, You're you're gonna you're gonna get ROI what
Speaker 4: would you do? You'd be have a propensity to say,
Speaker 4: I'll lean there. Right, it's the same thing here.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean it just it kind of clears up
Speaker 6: the picture a little bit because I mean, numbers, it's
Speaker 6: not subjective. It is what it is, right, and it's
Speaker 6: it's those are that's evidence right, facts?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 6: So I mean you know when you have those, I
Speaker 6: mean that kind of feeds into it. But I mean
Speaker 6: the best to do it. They're the ones that are
Speaker 6: able to take all of that information and then come
Speaker 6: to some sort of an educated guest.
Speaker 4: There's no perfect player, and you know what else about
Speaker 4: that day? And it's also when you turn your back
Speaker 4: on that particular plan, not saying fully when you turn
Speaker 4: your back on the number says because you've got a
Speaker 4: guy on the mound and Hunter Brown's been through a
Speaker 4: bad inning in the six, but they say this guy
Speaker 4: hits three seventy against him, But the two previous at
Speaker 4: bats or three previous at bats, he's struck him out.
Speaker 4: So while the overall numbers say tying to get him
Speaker 4: out because the guy that's up next to bray you
Speaker 4: has struck him out four straight times. But then there's
Speaker 4: that feeling when you're on the top step, it's like,
Speaker 4: you know what he's going good in this particular game.
Speaker 4: This guy's pitching on his way through it and then
Speaker 4: goes and strikes him out. There is that feeling of
Speaker 4: sometimes you've got to discount a number, and that's where
Speaker 4: the field part comes in. But it's just avity. Now
Speaker 4: what you do with the evidence of the facts is
Speaker 4: on you. But the human element still comes into and
Speaker 4: the best your exect, the best coaches all around know
Speaker 4: their players and know their personnel, but they also understand
Speaker 4: the numbers. And when every now and again, we're all,
Speaker 4: i think, in sports and maybe in life, programmed to
Speaker 4: think that we're smarter than the numbers. And you make
Speaker 4: those decisions based on emotion sometimes just as long as
Speaker 4: it's not one of those desperate emotional moves.
Speaker 6: Or people tell you not to take a quarterback because
Speaker 6: you know, no Ohio State quarterback has ever done well,
Speaker 6: or oh yeah, that s two tests, it didn't do
Speaker 6: so well on it. I think Nick Cassirio is pretty
Speaker 6: fine with ignoring both of those talking points.
Speaker 4: My favorite thing is when somebody says you've had like
Speaker 4: three different coaches or coaches, and they say, don't draft
Speaker 4: the receiver from that school or a quarterback from that
Speaker 4: school because well, in the past they haven't been very good. Well,
Speaker 4: it's not the same coach, it's a different coach or
Speaker 4: a different coordinator, and it's a different player. Well because
Speaker 4: because somebody else struggled, I can't draft Sam Darnold, or
Speaker 4: because Ohio State fields hasn't turned out to be a
Speaker 4: great pro yet. But CJ. Stroutt, So I'm holding CJ.
Speaker 4: Stroud back because the guy who was at Georgia transfert
Speaker 4: Ohio State. I shouldn't to me each a. You got
Speaker 4: to compartmentalize or you're going to miss out on a
Speaker 4: lot of great players. And Ohio State only had like
Speaker 4: four undred guys drafted this draft. Yeah, CJ. Stroud was
Speaker 4: not Craig Crenzel. I think you got a chance that
Speaker 4: the one was a really good college player the other
Speaker 4: was both.
Speaker 6: You think that Craig Crenszell woke up today thinking he
Speaker 6: was going to catch a stray.
Speaker 4: I don't think, Yeah, why who in the world? Why
Speaker 4: why are you attacking? And in the process, didn't you
Speaker 4: say I hate Craig, Craig Kensel, Craig Krenzel And uh
Speaker 4: you think he woke up today? Why the stray from you?
Speaker 4: It's just you know, CJ. Stroud's better. What do you
Speaker 4: want me to say? So, I'm Crensull, nothing personal. I
Speaker 4: think Crensill probably probably listening was the like like he
Speaker 4: as a guy, like he's a guy, didn't like his
Speaker 4: players quarterback. Yeah, crens didn't deserve that. I actual this
Speaker 4: morning wanted he's got a ring? Yeah he damn right.
Speaker 4: That's much more than all. He woke up this morning,
Speaker 4: probably grabbed some coffee, maybe got the kids to school,
Speaker 4: headed over to his job, probably you know, probably running
Speaker 4: a finance company or something. He just he just got
Speaker 4: a text. You know, hey, this guy in Houston is yeah,
Speaker 4: man time and Crenzell's probably it's oh yeah, I'm listening,
Speaker 4: because he probably listens every morning. Yeah all right. Radio Yeah,
Speaker 4: precede iHeart Radio preset one Sean Salisbury show here on
Speaker 4: sports Talk seven ninety all that, but I would think
Speaker 4: think that Crensill probably his feelings are hurt this morning.
Speaker 4: Dah amazing. And then to tell me you hate him
Speaker 4: before you said that he wasn't a good NFL quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: Weird man. Sometimes my emotions get the best triple a, Yep,
Speaker 4: you guessed it, Yeah, you guessed it, or two for
Speaker 4: two per day to say it triple you know, same page.
Speaker 4: It's okay, Dan, hang on there, buddy. All Right, Crenzel's
Speaker 4: day has just changed because of you, and you know,
Speaker 4: try to leave people better than you found. All Right,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Eight clock hour is coming up.
Speaker 6: Let's get in a little bit of Texans because I
Speaker 6: think you told us everything without telling us anything.
Speaker 4: We'll discuss that here KB Houston.
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Speaker 6: Sports SOX seven to ninety eight o'clock hour is here.
Speaker 6: Dana Brown coming up in about an hour and a
Speaker 6: half here for his weekly visit. Astros winning yesterday nine
Speaker 6: to one over the Brewers. The Rockets pushing back their
Speaker 6: deadline for a team option on Fred Van Vliet to
Speaker 6: later next month. In Texans resigning defensive tackle. Fully fought
Speaker 6: Acasi to a deal. But the Texans were a pretty
Speaker 6: wide receiver heavy in the draft, and we'll have a
Speaker 6: lot of new faces there on the field when they
Speaker 6: get out there for OTA's in mini camp here in
Speaker 6: about a week, which I think, actually, Sean, we're less
Speaker 6: than a week away from the schedule release in the NFL,
Speaker 6: So that means that I guess what May fifteenth, So
Speaker 6: a week from today, Oh, we're gonna be wall to
Speaker 6: wall every bit we're going. We're going Game one all
Speaker 6: the way to Game eighteen seventeen.
Speaker 4: However they play sure we are, Yeah, absolutely. Let me
Speaker 4: ask you, are you one of those guys who you
Speaker 4: don't want to do the list, you don't want to
Speaker 4: do the mount rushmore? You know all that you know
Speaker 4: actually is the weakest game games that's the one, you know. Yeah, well,
Speaker 4: I'd like to see if somebody gets hurt in training
Speaker 4: camp before I make a prediction on their season. Oh,
Speaker 4: they're going thirteen to four. Man, yeah, oh man, And
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, Oh and Lamar pulls a
Speaker 4: ham he's gonna be seven weeks now, tell me they're
Speaker 4: still fourteen A for us, I waited to make my
Speaker 4: bet phone lines, what's your prediction? Exactly? One three two
Speaker 4: one two. We will not be doing that. And the
Speaker 4: mount rushmore of draft picks on the day after the draft. Yeah,
Speaker 4: is with uh now was up sitting here getting lost
Speaker 4: in the caught up and all the hype of the
Speaker 4: draft picks. Oh, with the schedule and all that. I
Speaker 4: you know, are you one of those guys that set
Speaker 4: your not talks about it? But do you like sit
Speaker 4: and watch everything? Do you go? Will you watch all
Speaker 4: that the schedule release because you want to book your
Speaker 4: flight and do all that like some you're not throwing
Speaker 4: a you're not throwing a schedule release party. No, okay, no,
Speaker 4: I'll get it. I'll look at it really quick. Hey,
Speaker 4: how many Sunday nights, Wednesday, Thursday Monday night game home games?
Speaker 4: Like a Christmas game something like that. That's that's about it.
Speaker 4: Even as a player, that's what I do. I'm not
Speaker 4: not really who we playing because I know I knew
Speaker 4: six of the games you were looking. Are we playing
Speaker 4: green Bay in late December? I'm not getting green Bay
Speaker 4: out a night game knowing you're going to be freezing
Speaker 4: your resets off, right? Yeah? Are we on Thanksgiving? Those
Speaker 4: who say, oh, we got three Monday nights, cool, It's
Speaker 4: gonna be a fun year. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I gotta tell you, I'm not getting tight pants about
Speaker 6: the week one opener at home against the Jags, because
Speaker 6: that's not rocking me up.
Speaker 4: Man. That's that's that's that's not getting me going it is.
Speaker 4: The only reason now is because I can't wait to
Speaker 4: see all the press conferences this year, for for for
Speaker 4: Liam Liam Cohen, the head coach. I can't wait to
Speaker 4: see his press conference.
Speaker 6: They got, they got, they got a building over there,
Speaker 6: don't they, Not only him, but also the GM. Now
Speaker 6: they're hoping that the cheese factor kicks in as much
Speaker 6: as Nick Sirianni's did and they go on and win
Speaker 6: Super Bowls, right, true, But I think the roster is
Speaker 6: a little different.
Speaker 4: So yeah, you'll you'll tune in just for those to see.
Speaker 4: Oh man, guess what, uh Liam Cohn is going to
Speaker 4: say something really dumb. I mean you or do some cheese.
Speaker 4: He did anything dumb. He just got into the Duvall
Speaker 4: enthusiasm and we're going to get their ass kicks by
Speaker 4: the Texans. Look, bad organizations continue to be bad organizations
Speaker 4: for a reason. It's not coach. It doesn't start at
Speaker 4: the bottom, it starts at the top. Uh huh yeah yeah,
Speaker 4: so yeah, the bond villain hopefully, well we'll see with
Speaker 4: a new GM and a new coach doesn't go in
Speaker 4: a differ you know what I'm talking about. With the
Speaker 4: GM's little soliloquy he went on at the beginning of
Speaker 4: the Travis Henry press conference right regularly where it was
Speaker 4: just like, did you like rehearse this in the mirror
Speaker 4: or something, or like did somebody look it over and
Speaker 4: be like, man, that's an impassioned speech. That's really good. Yeah,
Speaker 4: go with that, Travis Henry. No, the Travis Henry.
Speaker 6: Though, Oh I say, Travis Hendry, I'm sorry, Travis Travis
Speaker 6: hen right, Oh yeah I saw it. Yeah, yeah, soliloquy.
Speaker 6: You mean it was like two and a half minutes.
Speaker 6: He is everything that's right with football. It's like, how
Speaker 6: about you just do the GM thing of Hey, everybody,
Speaker 6: thanks for coming. We're here to announce the obviously draft
Speaker 6: pick of Travis Hunter. Really excited about Travis, you know,
Speaker 6: really looking forward to what he can do in a
Speaker 6: JAG's UNI.
Speaker 4: Any questions. That's that's how you hear him turn it
Speaker 4: out right, Yeah, but we'll see. But he's he's exactly right,
Speaker 4: Travis Hunters everything you want football play, Yeah, I.
Speaker 6: Can sure as I'll tell you that. Not everybody's Jeff Luno.
Speaker 6: It always still cracks me up to this day when
Speaker 6: they did the press conference with Verlander. We're here to
Speaker 6: officially announced the acquisition of Justin Verlander, who I think
Speaker 6: it already pitched and in Astro's UNI. So it's like,
Speaker 6: I don't really understand why we have to do this,
Speaker 6: but you you do, you man, Yeah you go. Oh,
Speaker 6: you know, everybody wants to put on the coat and
Speaker 6: the tie and have the jersey put on them and
Speaker 6: all of that. Do the grip and grin photo with
Speaker 6: the GM the.
Speaker 4: Owner, take a babies, Yeah, there you go, and then
Speaker 4: go get us a world chairs and he's beating them
Speaker 4: and us to celebrate.
Speaker 6: He paid off on that, Yeah, that more than once.
Speaker 6: But Tank Dell, it looks like he's not. I mean,
Speaker 6: I've said it numerous times. We've talked about it. This
Speaker 6: isn't you know, breaking any news here. He's not playing
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: I don't think any I don't know anybody that would
Speaker 4: have expected it. And even if it was a miracle
Speaker 4: comeback and he was ready in December, you don't play him.
Speaker 4: You just don't that. That's not just your blown out knee.
Speaker 4: It's not a torn ligament in the ankle. It's not
Speaker 4: a shoulder separation or you know, pulled biceps muscle where
Speaker 4: it tears away from the bow. You know that's not
Speaker 4: this was it was gruesome, and it was put it
Speaker 4: this way. If you get him at one hundred percent
Speaker 4: the following year in the office, like like at this
Speaker 4: time next year that he's going one hundred percent, be
Speaker 4: grateful and then get him back because and that kid's
Speaker 4: been through some adversity now two injuries, playing good football
Speaker 4: in both. Was having a hell of a game in
Speaker 4: that game and has to overcome that there's not gonna
Speaker 4: be a whole lot that you can run by him.
Speaker 4: That is not that he hasn't hit his football rock
Speaker 4: bottom because of these injuries, and God blessed him on
Speaker 4: his comeback, but we shouldn't even encourage that. There's no
Speaker 4: way you should be counting on him. Hints why they
Speaker 4: drafted somebody early, Hints why you go out and get
Speaker 4: Christian Kirk. You're protecting your Yeah, a couple guys exactly,
Speaker 4: but but the you're you know and Dan. One thing
Speaker 4: we talked about, you're either going to get lineman or receivers.
Speaker 4: And I told JOm Greedy and when they draft re Set,
Speaker 4: I had no problem with it because you they're looking
Speaker 4: and understand that weapons. You got to be able to
Speaker 4: separate and win and it can't just be Nico Collins.
Speaker 4: So they've approached it, and they approach it with the
Speaker 4: very thought that that that you're not going to get
Speaker 4: tanked del back till the twenty twenty six season, sadly enough,
Speaker 4: but you know what it'll make for one hell of
Speaker 4: a come back.
Speaker 6: Well, they went into this offseason too with exactly that
Speaker 6: of you go through a season and you had to sign,
Speaker 6: you know, three different quarterbacks and one of those guys
Speaker 6: had to start for you and it just didn't go
Speaker 6: well for you because, well, you had a guy off
Speaker 6: a couch that was going to be leading your offense
Speaker 6: and you don't want that to happen. So what do
Speaker 6: you do the following offseason? You trade, you sign, you draft,
Speaker 6: you do all those different types of things, so then
Speaker 6: the coach doesn't have to head into that situation.
Speaker 4: Again.
Speaker 6: That was the charge of this front office and Tamiko
Speaker 6: Ryans in the offseason of saying, hey, look, nothing against
Speaker 6: John Metchi, nothing against Xavier Hutchinson. I can't play those
Speaker 6: guys and expect to win meaningful football, and you can
Speaker 6: play him.
Speaker 4: And I think we're still waiting for another level with
Speaker 4: MATCHI and I understand that Hall pass what he's been
Speaker 4: through as well, but it's probably a moo. It's time
Speaker 4: next year. It's time for him to get back doing
Speaker 4: his thing like he did at Alabama, and hopefully you will.
Speaker 4: But you're always, like I said, it's a GM. Your
Speaker 4: number one job is to get your coach players, but
Speaker 4: you're always looking for the ne best guy. You just
Speaker 4: have to for the right reasons. And as a player,
Speaker 4: you're always working to prevent that from happening, so you
Speaker 4: don't get replaced, and then you maximize what you're doing,
Speaker 4: and Tank Dell will be strapped with some This is
Speaker 4: it's not even just the physical part. Well, for that's
Speaker 4: one thing. It's the mental grind of when you hit
Speaker 4: those scar tissues and when you hit them and you
Speaker 4: got to break through them. That's the that's I guarantee
Speaker 4: you because physically those guys, these guys bounce back quick.
Speaker 4: It's amazing. But good doctors, some hard work and positive
Speaker 4: I know it sounds cheesy, but that's what's going to
Speaker 4: take to get through it. Take it from a guy
Speaker 4: who's shreded his knee twice, but this was a far
Speaker 4: more gruesome injury than I had. So you have to
Speaker 4: go out and protect yourself. It's nothing against Tank Dell
Speaker 4: and it's nothing against Mechi. If you're smart, you go
Speaker 4: out and get five six good ones, right, and then say,
Speaker 4: can I win with any of these guys? But you
Speaker 4: know who the number one is? And there's that that's
Speaker 4: a blatant. Now, these two young guys and any Christian
Speaker 4: Kirk who's a veteran now in this offense, Christian Kirk
Speaker 4: should have eighty five ninety catches. He really should be nice,
Speaker 4: I mean just and he because he's going to get
Speaker 4: more free reign than a guy that plays outside and
Speaker 4: is a big physical monster. You're not letting that guy
Speaker 4: beat you. So you got another veteran. It's gonna be
Speaker 4: fun to see how they implement this offense this year.
Speaker 4: It absolutely will be Nick Cayley's first year on the job.
Speaker 4: It will be interesting to see what wrinkles he is
Speaker 4: able to throw out there. All right, coming out a
Speaker 4: little bit about you know, mentioned the Fred van Vliet deadline.
Speaker 4: I almost wonder if they're telling us something without actually
Speaker 4: telling us it. We will talk about it here. It
Speaker 4: is a Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 9: Let the celebration start more Sean Salisbury a Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 4: Good morning, Brandon, Good morning.
Speaker 2: How about the astros?
Speaker 4: How about him? Did you not call it yesterday? Did
Speaker 4: you not call it? I told you were putting positive
Speaker 4: vibes out there pitching with Farmber and your game. That's it?
Speaker 4: You did? Dog gone righty? Did he called it? Said? Hey,
Speaker 4: they're gonna win, and then I'm gonna come in studio
Speaker 4: and make make me a coffee. That's what that was
Speaker 4: his call yesterday, memory by you all the way through
Speaker 4: the dog on right, Brandon, good call, baby.
Speaker 11: Because.
Speaker 2: Mom's my mom's I'm gonna wats.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna way to that smart.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well we'll plant it, no problem. We got all summer.
Speaker 4: We got the coffee. I'll bring the donuts. It would
Speaker 4: be a good time. Do you like ham sandwiches Brandon? Brandon, Yes, okay?
Speaker 4: Do you? What do you tell me what you like
Speaker 4: on your hamsounch? Dan wants to know because he's gonna
Speaker 4: make you want too when he brings your coffee.
Speaker 11: Ham.
Speaker 4: Do you like ham and cheese, mayonnaise, mustard? What do
Speaker 4: you put on a ham soounch?
Speaker 2: Cheese?
Speaker 4: Just ham? Plain? No, no, no, no no condiments, just playing.
Speaker 4: You like a hot or cold?
Speaker 2: I like it?
Speaker 9: I like it hot?
Speaker 4: Okay, I can do that. Some like it hot DM.
Speaker 4: So we got you all right, Just making sure I
Speaker 4: make toasted sandwiches all the time. They're delicious. Bring it here,
Speaker 4: micro wave it up. Yeah, there you go, there you go.
Speaker 4: You sure.
Speaker 2: Astros off today and we're off.
Speaker 9: And we're back at it tomorrow.
Speaker 6: Yes, they are back home. They played well at home
Speaker 6: this year, Brandon, it's a little bit different. It's the
Speaker 6: opposite of a couple of years ago. Love to see it, dude.
Speaker 6: He was awesome yesterday.
Speaker 4: He was.
Speaker 6: He was great frommer Brandon. That's that's who we need
Speaker 6: to see. That's the guy right there. We need that
Speaker 6: guy a lot more.
Speaker 1: How many strikeouts did he had?
Speaker 4: Seven?
Speaker 6: Yeah, he had seven strikeouts yesterday and he only gave
Speaker 6: up three hits.
Speaker 4: It's a good day.
Speaker 11: He had a good day.
Speaker 6: Yes he did, Yes, he did. And it was nice
Speaker 6: to see the bats get it going too. So we
Speaker 6: know the formula, Brandon. The guys just have to do it.
Speaker 4: It's first pitch of seven.
Speaker 6: Tomorrow night, yes, seven ten Friday night, fireworks too, So
Speaker 6: a lot.
Speaker 2: Of fun and I'll be at the game.
Speaker 4: Okay, cool, nice, Not tomorrow but Saturday.
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, there you go. Yeah, you get the
Speaker 6: six ten on Saturday. So that's that's good. That's good.
Speaker 4: You'll have a lot of fun.
Speaker 6: Well, it's it's usually six o'clock on on Saturday, so
Speaker 6: it's it's pretty much the same time as always.
Speaker 2: There you go the.
Speaker 7: Yep.
Speaker 6: All right, all right, man, we'll hear from your buddy. Well,
Speaker 6: we'll talk to you soon. Okay, all right, all right,
Speaker 6: see Brandon, So gonna go the game on Saturday. I mean,
Speaker 6: I don't think they have toasted ham and cheese sandwiches
Speaker 6: there at uh at dyke in Park. I mean maybe
Speaker 6: it's something you know, you could could get with the
Speaker 6: powers that be next year, you know, of anybody there
Speaker 6: inside the building, the you know, the oligarchy that is
Speaker 6: the the ownership group of you know, the is that
Speaker 6: even does that even fit? Like I hear people throw
Speaker 6: out that word all the time, and I'm like, what
Speaker 6: does that even mean? Like I don't get it, Like
Speaker 6: they're just really rich people, So I don't you just
Speaker 6: call him really rich people?
Speaker 4: Well that yeah, I'm assuming you're talking about oligarchy. Nice
Speaker 4: way to weave that in. Yeah, right, Uh just hear
Speaker 4: that all the time, and I'm like, what does it.
Speaker 4: There's one guy who's there's one guy who's been mentioned
Speaker 4: to it since nineteen sixty he's been trying to stop
Speaker 4: the oligarchy. He's got the sign in front of him.
Speaker 4: It's the same thing, and he hasn't changed the sign
Speaker 4: in fifty years either. The guy just to go, I mean,
Speaker 4: he knows how to pronounce it. He obviously knows what
Speaker 4: it means, and he's he's tired of the few of
Speaker 4: the men dominating everything. Right, that's he's tired of the
Speaker 4: oligarch he's trying to prevent it. The problem with Bernardo
Speaker 4: Sanders is he hasn't been able to prevent it for
Speaker 4: a long time, so he might want to use a
Speaker 4: different theme when he goes after presidency. That he's been
Speaker 4: fighting all garky since he was born. According to him,
Speaker 4: but you play the speech from nineteen sixty eight and
Speaker 4: it'll be the same speech now, his number one go
Speaker 4: to You got his voice back. I can't do his
Speaker 4: voice nor what I want to. But no, no, we're
Speaker 4: not doing it. Well, let me ask you, Bernie, how
Speaker 4: how wealthy were you before you got into the office
Speaker 4: and how well I'm not talking about that. This is
Speaker 4: about you. I thought you wanted to talk about oligarchies.
Speaker 4: Are you part of it? I am, I'm not one
Speaker 4: of the up one percent? Well, what about the four
Speaker 4: mansions you have? Bertie? Again, we're not talking about this.
Speaker 4: Oh that's right. You mean you're in seventy and in
Speaker 4: eighty and in ninety and in two thousand, and twenty.
Speaker 4: You're still fixing the oligarchy word though. Wait'll weave it
Speaker 4: in Dan. Yeah, hey, man, you're tired. You're just tired
Speaker 4: of all the oligarchs.
Speaker 6: I'm sure somebody's probably on Twitter going to throw out
Speaker 6: what the true definition is. But I mean, until this,
Speaker 6: it's like, oh, you're really rich, you have really big
Speaker 6: boats in the meadow Iterranean and all of this.
Speaker 4: What he doesn't want is he doesn't want just to
Speaker 4: give you an idea what oligarchy. He doesn't want ninety
Speaker 4: percent of the money. I'm willing to find it run
Speaker 4: like to be an oligarch. Yeah, yeah, what whatuld the
Speaker 4: ninety percent of the money being controlled by ten percent
Speaker 4: of the peaks. That's basically what he's fighting out. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's got plenty of money of himself, but you got
Speaker 4: to fight the oligarchs, man, it's Oligarchy's just the thing.
Speaker 4: I love the word. Keep believing it in nice job by.
Speaker 4: You just got to find a way.
Speaker 6: He's just got to find a way, you know, for people,
Speaker 6: you know, Yeah, get get really good at something and
Speaker 6: then they'll they'll pay you for it.
Speaker 4: All right, mister movie quote guy, Oh and analyze this,
Speaker 4: Come on, what are you new here? Thank you? You
Speaker 4: didn't even let me ask the friggid question. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean I have a movie. I love movies, but it
Speaker 4: comes to movie quotes, you're the frigging man. You just
Speaker 4: huddled up. I mean you could recite, you know, back
Speaker 4: in You're like, like you said, we'll go back. I'll
Speaker 4: say seven brides for seven brothers, and you'll have a
Speaker 4: saying and that's like was like nineteen sixty two. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he tried to run that two point play I did
Speaker 4: where you know, going back to thequarterback. The quarterback, well,
Speaker 4: not only not even that where it's even much more simple,
Speaker 4: where you spread it out a little bit and then
Speaker 4: you think that the middle of the field's gonna be
Speaker 4: wide open so you can just run back in. No,
Speaker 4: I add my inside lineback. The entire time about this,
Speaker 4: I cut you down at the five. You're talking about
Speaker 4: like the three yard line. We go four wides with
Speaker 4: empty the backfield, run him in motion. You're a counting
Speaker 4: on the linebacker to run with him. Yeah, and he doesn't.
Speaker 4: So they're playing zone and now you're running quarterback draw
Speaker 4: the most Yeah, as if the biggest, and you got
Speaker 4: Josh Allen at quarterback or Lamar Jackson. Hey, we're on
Speaker 4: the three. Let's go empty, motion the back out and
Speaker 4: go three step, put your foot in the ground and
Speaker 4: run quarterback draw. As if that's not the most blatant obvious,
Speaker 4: I got a great idea run quarterback draw from empty
Speaker 4: with the back in the backfield, and at the snap,
Speaker 4: have the end go cut somebody like he's in maximum
Speaker 4: protection even though it's not max because he got four wides,
Speaker 4: and then make your throat. Yeah. Just a novel concept
Speaker 4: down there, But I digress. But back to it. I
Speaker 4: was actually going to ask you when I say you, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: analyze this, Yeah, you analyze that too, or just this. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So the moral of this story is the fact that
Speaker 4: you weaved in oligarchy. I don't disappoint try not to
Speaker 4: at least, I mean really really, maybe somebody some my
Speaker 4: my past.
Speaker 6: Like it's funny, like you know, people who like criticize you.
Speaker 6: It used to bother me when.
Speaker 4: I've been criticized before a few times, a few times,
Speaker 4: but now let it bother you, Dan, Yeah, please trust me.
Speaker 4: If you've you'll you'll be a lot better. I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm better, happier if you don't let those guys.
Speaker 6: One of the things that helps you mentally on Twitter is, uh,
Speaker 6: you know you want to call me a moron, but
Speaker 6: you don't follow me.
Speaker 4: Guess what I got news for you. I ain't gonna see.
Speaker 4: It's even worse. It's the one who calls you a
Speaker 4: moron who does follow you. Yeah, that's why I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Wait a minute. You hate what I say, and I'm
Speaker 4: the moron, but you're dumb enough to wake up in
Speaker 4: the morning and look what I said on Twitter.
Speaker 6: Hey you're a moron. But hey, what about the Texans
Speaker 6: linebacker situation?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Exactly. My favorite is I'm unfollowing you. Well this sense.
Speaker 4: This is the first time I knew you were actually
Speaker 4: following me. Man, what can I do to save this?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 4: You are unfollowing me because I said I think that,
Speaker 4: uh Cincinnati beats Pittsburgh this week. Oh, I'm unfollowing you.
Speaker 4: How dare you tell me Joe burw is a good
Speaker 4: quarter here? A moron? Okay, right, great, you're unfollowing me.
Speaker 4: I'll see you in a week because you'll be back.
Speaker 4: So yeah, the unfollowed threats My favorite. Hey, I can't
Speaker 4: believe you said what do you know nothing, but you
Speaker 4: can sure tell me what your seventh grade high school
Speaker 4: or your seventh grade junior high tape looked like. So
Speaker 4: that's my favorite. But that's my friend. You sucked. I
Speaker 4: remember that interception. Yeah, I remember it all too well, man,
Speaker 4: I remember all the interceptions. I don't remember the touchdowns,
Speaker 4: but I got through it. Saw the guy catch it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I chased him down, but I tackled him in
Speaker 4: the end zone for its pick six. Yeah, I know
Speaker 4: exactly what it looked like. And then I'll say, no problem,
Speaker 4: you're exactly right. Man, boy, that game was miserable and yeah,
Speaker 4: sure you cost me money. I apologize, by the way,
Speaker 4: I know I sucked. I don't apologize. That's your fault,
Speaker 4: it's their fault. Who then my favorite is and I
Speaker 4: apologize with a smiley face, right laughing, But then it's
Speaker 4: my favorite is.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 4: Do me a favor, though, man, because I'm trying to
Speaker 4: up my game. Could you send me your high school
Speaker 4: tape so I can evaluate all those stuffs you took.
Speaker 4: And i'd ever hear back from when I asked that,
Speaker 4: and it's all I do it. It's not mean because
Speaker 4: they're right. They can have their opinion. You're right, but
Speaker 4: you don't need to tell me when I sucked, because
Speaker 4: I exactly know when I sucked. But my favorite is, hey,
Speaker 4: what do you know? Not much? The truth. I don't
Speaker 4: know a lot, maybe a little bit about the position,
Speaker 4: but I just want to know so we can study
Speaker 4: this together. Grab your tape and walk me through your
Speaker 4: decisions when you're in tenth grade swiftly, Pennsylvania or third
Speaker 4: grade Swiftly. And I never really get a response back
Speaker 4: after that, but just check it in. Yeah, I was curious.
Speaker 4: I'd be like me, you know, That's why I always
Speaker 4: tell me and joking, I said, well, you teaching me
Speaker 4: about football is the equivalent of me going to Elon
Speaker 4: Musk and teaching him how to make money.
Speaker 6: It's like, you know, back when the college coaches used
Speaker 6: to have call in shows, because now it's all social media,
Speaker 6: you know, just very very controlled questions. And I remember
Speaker 6: once a guy called in the Mark Rick show, you know,
Speaker 6: complained about the way they were doing things, criticized him,
Speaker 6: and Rick finished it off of going, you know, but
Speaker 6: it sounds like you've coached a lot of football games,
Speaker 6: so you know, you seem to know what you're doing.
Speaker 4: I always do that, so I'll say, hey, man, you
Speaker 4: know what, I defer to your expertise. I have zero
Speaker 4: ideas right what you do, but please, we all need
Speaker 4: to know on this on this thread because it'll help
Speaker 4: us get better. But in truth, when somebody would there
Speaker 4: are some who call and say, Sean Man this and
Speaker 4: I'd say, you're exactly right. I did suck. And they're
Speaker 4: pointing out the obvious. And I like them because we
Speaker 4: have a lot of those people that can teach me
Speaker 4: a lot about sports and football and baseball and basketball.
Speaker 4: So I usually get them all the love they need,
Speaker 4: even when they don't give love back. But that's okay,
Speaker 4: that's all right. I look, not everyone's gonna love you.
Speaker 4: But the truth is I love when they point out,
Speaker 4: like I'll get pointed out a lot of times. The
Speaker 4: football game I played in college, my first start sophomore
Speaker 4: year at SC, We're on the road in Florida. Go
Speaker 4: back and look at the numbers, and we had Don
Speaker 4: mos Bar, Bruce Matthews, we were loading all Americans. We
Speaker 4: were driving down and winning. The clock went out. That
Speaker 4: crowd in Florida, Wilbur Marshall had a day. It was
Speaker 4: the best defensive performance that I've ever seen with my
Speaker 4: own eyes in person, and it was me taking the
Speaker 4: wrath of it. He played the best football game I'd
Speaker 4: ever see a defensive player, and maybe just still to
Speaker 4: this day, it's as good as I've ever seen. And
Speaker 4: so you get an old school Florida fantais, say, Sean,
Speaker 4: and remember this, I said, Do I remember National television
Speaker 4: Keith Jackson, Frank Broyles and my coach Robinson. After my
Speaker 4: first start, I'm sitting down against the wall. My parents
Speaker 4: were there, and he says, he showed me, so it's
Speaker 4: going to get better. So I was like distraught because
Speaker 4: but dude, Wilbur Marshall and he went on to a
Speaker 4: great career. It was and I can raise my hand
Speaker 4: and say I was a part of having one of
Speaker 4: the greatest performances I ever saw. He had like twenty
Speaker 4: two tackles, three three and a half or four and
Speaker 4: a half sacks. He looked like a man playing against
Speaker 4: a bunch of boys. And we were pretty good. Dude.
Speaker 4: We went on to win six or seven in a
Speaker 4: row and were topped. I mean were they. He was unbelievable.
Speaker 4: So I know what that feeling feels like of a
Speaker 4: guy taking over and dominating you. Man all too well.
Speaker 4: It's I get reminded about that on social media often.
Speaker 4: I say, you are one hundred percent correct. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: not good to be on the short end of that one.
Speaker 4: Oh but you look back now and you can smirk
Speaker 4: at it, saying, man, I appreciate it a part of something.
Speaker 4: You watch it and then you realize why. He went
Speaker 4: on to have a great career in Chicago and a
Speaker 4: great player, no doubt in Washington, no doubt.
Speaker 6: All right, the decision to push things back with Fred,
Speaker 6: I think it tells a story.
Speaker 4: We'll talk about it here. It is a Shawn Salisbury
Speaker 4: Show Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1: The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 4: He was I saw him in concert and it was like,
Speaker 4: it's pretty magical the way he performed. Man, that was Yeah,
Speaker 4: that one cut. That one cut really deep. So it's funny.
Speaker 6: I was actually sitting at a bar once and somebody
Speaker 6: next to me somehow the conversation got on the Prince
Speaker 6: and they said that, Yeah, one of my co workers
Speaker 6: when it was their first day, you know, it was, hey,
Speaker 6: tell us a little bit something about you. Tell us
Speaker 6: a fun fact, and her fun fact was that she
Speaker 6: went to middle school with Prince and she goes and
Speaker 6: believe it or not, he actually was a really good
Speaker 6: basketball player from the Chappelle Show bit right, they did
Speaker 6: Charlie Charlie Murphy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he uh and he loved his sports and afterwards
Speaker 4: he starved us pancakes. There you go. He uh, big man?
Speaker 4: Is that the Rick James Wow classic? He was? Yeah,
Speaker 4: that one hurt man, didn't it?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Shocking. Yeah, we're talking about Prince right, not as much
Speaker 4: Rick James. Yeah, but super freak Yeah he was. He
Speaker 4: was something else. Great performer, yes, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 6: We still get to listen to him from time to
Speaker 6: time to to keep his memory alive for sure. Coming
Speaker 6: up here less than an hour Astros GM, Dana Brown
Speaker 6: gonna join us up. But just real quick here on
Speaker 6: the Rockets, just because this came down yesterday. I mean,
Speaker 6: you know, as we get deeper into the offseason, obviously
Speaker 6: when there's things to talk about, we'll talk about them.
Speaker 6: But i mean, you know, aside from that, the season's over,
Speaker 6: so it's just you just you just move on from it.
Speaker 6: And the team was supposed to have a deadline of
Speaker 6: tomorrow on Fred van Vliet to pick up his team option.
Speaker 6: They've pushed it back a month because they would owe
Speaker 6: him Sean about forty five million dollars next season. My
Speaker 6: guess is the decision to move it back is, let's
Speaker 6: extend this thing because you're no longer in the market
Speaker 6: where you have to pay Fred van Vliet forty five
Speaker 6: million dollars. And I mean, he'll get his money one
Speaker 6: way or another. But I just think that the Rockets
Speaker 6: look at it and say, we're no longer in the
Speaker 6: desperation phase of trying to build this thing up because
Speaker 6: where they were, you had to you had to overpay
Speaker 6: for him, You had to overpay for Dylan Brooks. You're
Speaker 6: now in a position as a team where you've built
Speaker 6: up your roster. You feel good about your roster. You
Speaker 6: feel even better if number five is still here. But
Speaker 6: you also don't feel even better pay million dollars.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so what do you think the delay is? What
Speaker 4: to see if you can work out a deal, but
Speaker 4: long term extension, a long term extension, but somehow, some
Speaker 4: way you want to extend it so it hurts less.
Speaker 4: I mean, what where you gonna He's still going to
Speaker 4: get paid if you keep him. Yeah, because like unlike football,
Speaker 4: that's how he's theirs, right. But he's not getting forty
Speaker 4: five million dollars from my kids. No oh No, I
Speaker 4: love having him here. I think he's a really good settler,
Speaker 4: meaning he can keep you, settle in, and come up
Speaker 4: with some big games. I do. I like having I
Speaker 4: think he's got a winning attitude and culture about him.
Speaker 4: And you saw in this series that he can go
Speaker 4: out there and take over a game too. You don't
Speaker 4: want him to have to be that guy regularly. Does
Speaker 4: that make sense? Absolutely? But I don't see forty five
Speaker 4: million either. The question is how do you do it
Speaker 4: to where forty five minut I mean, how do you
Speaker 4: go about this? And the extension to say he gets it?
Speaker 4: This year we're extending and he's going to take a
Speaker 4: major pay cutter. Is he going to tell you? Mean,
Speaker 4: what do you going to do? It's not like I
Speaker 4: mean you ultimate him him. What do you what are
Speaker 4: you gonna do?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 6: I think you ultimatum. I mean there's a mutual interest
Speaker 6: for both your side and also for him to come back.
Speaker 6: He said as much the other night that he wants
Speaker 6: to stay here. He wants to be here.
Speaker 4: At what price? At what price does he draw the
Speaker 4: line and say, I can't go lower than this? Thirty five?
Speaker 4: I mean that's that even might be high, that's still
Speaker 4: a lot of money. Yeah, I mean that's reserve for
Speaker 4: usually reserve for your.
Speaker 6: That guy, well not only that guy, but also that
Speaker 6: guy that you know, A down night for them will
Speaker 6: be twenty points.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, man, that's like I said, I
Speaker 4: love having him, but that's an awful expensive price tag
Speaker 4: between thirty five and forty five, men's an awful expensive
Speaker 4: price tag unless you're it seems you know, we have
Speaker 4: to go through the contracts. It seems like those are
Speaker 4: reserved for well, the bruns and the tatums, the Nikola
Speaker 4: Jokic's of the like I said, this is a really
Speaker 4: good player, and I think he's a really good culture
Speaker 4: guy do and he knows how to win. He's proven it.
Speaker 4: But that's uh, why else would you extend this if
Speaker 4: it wasn't and talks to how we're going to structure
Speaker 4: this to get him to still be here where he
Speaker 4: can be a guy because he's still really good in
Speaker 4: our building face.
Speaker 6: Well, you extend him because I mean for everything you
Speaker 6: just said, you know what he means to this team, doubt,
Speaker 6: but you also you like him, you love him.
Speaker 4: You don't love him for forty five million dollars, but
Speaker 4: he's still in, you know, in a phase of his
Speaker 4: career where you know that you don't want to say
Speaker 4: twenty two million. I mean you're not you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Yeah, you don't get my point, right, guy, Right,
Speaker 4: that's exactly right. If you're going to do that, you
Speaker 4: just let him, you just you just say it's better
Speaker 4: for you to move on. But yeah, it's it's going
Speaker 4: to be interesting. But the DELA has to be in
Speaker 4: my opinion, how are we going to work to keep him?
Speaker 4: But make it fiduciary, fudutiary responsible.
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 4: Ah, there's those words again. I mean, you know, look
Speaker 4: at you. I mean I bring in m's master's program,
Speaker 4: I bring I bring dilemnized you in fiduciary as well.
Speaker 4: Why wouldn't we? Isn't that? Isn't this? Isn't this what
Speaker 4: this is all about? Sure? Little for sure finances and
Speaker 4: some coin. You know, it's good, it's good to throw
Speaker 4: out the words every one, So every now and then
Speaker 4: you got to keep keep people honest and especially to
Speaker 4: you got to do it in a genuine way, Like
Speaker 4: even if you mispronounce or you can tell that there
Speaker 4: was a hint of hesitation, then people will just roll
Speaker 4: with it. What did you just like look that up
Speaker 4: in a thasaurus somewhere or something. Yeah, but I didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's a I use the term regularly with when I
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Speaker 2: Why You're back.
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Speaker 4: Get back at it, biscuit.
Speaker 11: Good morning, Hey, top of it morning, my brothers man.
Speaker 11: Good good dialogue going.
Speaker 4: On this morning, Dan and Sean.
Speaker 11: A Hey, Dan, he's got you bring up the Holy
Speaker 11: guard man to one. I'll tell you one that this
Speaker 11: irks me more than the one percent man is the
Speaker 11: saddest scenes in the Pharisee, Dan going Biblical.
Speaker 4: I like you, Yeah, absolutely, I.
Speaker 11: Can get with a man that's you know, if he's
Speaker 11: a businessman, he's detailing. He all about money, making money.
Speaker 11: But these people who say they doing things in the
Speaker 11: name of Jesus and doing everything contrary them, the ones
Speaker 11: that I have probably that that's yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah. The hypotrits, we're we're gonna leave names out, but
Speaker 4: the names not be we we we we know the
Speaker 4: names right exactly. By the way, I like to I
Speaker 4: want one of their three private planes too, but they're free. Hey,
Speaker 4: we have no tax on them, but they're free. But hey,
Speaker 4: appreciate you man. Thanks, Yeah, a.
Speaker 11: Thousand dollars some angels to help you out.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: By by, by the way, on that free flight, could
Speaker 4: you be a good one and send the blessing to
Speaker 4: drive me and fly me and my friends to Pebble
Speaker 4: Beach so we can all go play on that thing too,
Speaker 4: because you know what, we want to do, some spiritual golfing.
Speaker 4: That's the way the Good Lord would want to be.
Speaker 4: Damn right. I want to see that cypress tree out there.
Speaker 4: You damn right, I'm there. Let's go that that might
Speaker 4: be and would you say, oligark, that might be that
Speaker 4: that that that picture shows up of that of the group. Okay,
Speaker 4: you and I both know that. That's right.
Speaker 11: Yeahs and plants pad of all over the place. John
Speaker 11: Ain't nobody had a better roster than Prince.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 7: Come on, now, Celia, roster.
Speaker 4: What's nine and a half weeks? Agol Kim Basinger really?
Speaker 4: Oh he had Kim bay Singer. You damn right, I
Speaker 4: know that in the list. Don't stop there. Okay, some
Speaker 4: of the names you'll know, and some of the names
Speaker 4: you won't start. Listen the Dicaprios and and Bradley Cooper's
Speaker 4: or whoever the tom I got news for you. They're
Speaker 4: sitting in the cheap seats. When it comes to Prince,
Speaker 4: I could PROMI as shoot that interesting. Don't let don't
Speaker 4: let the diminutive size and the fact that he's you know,
Speaker 4: all over the state. I got news for you that man.
Speaker 4: When he walked into a room, everything stopped. It was E. F.
Speaker 4: Hutton and his roster. Matter of fact, he's cutting tens. Okay, now,
Speaker 4: can't make this roster. That's yeah, Oh, Biscuit ain't lying
Speaker 4: about that now. And he's just naming the names that
Speaker 4: you do know. Yeah, he he You know what, he
Speaker 4: had a lot of guys. He had a lot of
Speaker 4: them on injured reserve. Okay, you talk about that, his
Speaker 4: barn was full of whatever he wanted. Good he could
Speaker 4: still pull him and he's in a grave. That's that's
Speaker 4: how good Prince was My masket? Am I right? Biscuit?
Speaker 4: It's no doubt, no doubt, you brought a.
Speaker 11: Wilblm Marshall sounded did you play it? Because it made
Speaker 11: me think, so did you play against.
Speaker 4: Uh, Hugh, Yeah, I did, But but he was before me.
Speaker 4: But he was he was like he was like, uh,
Speaker 4: probably late seventy. He was more, you know, a little
Speaker 4: like just before Marino, got a little bit of Marino.
Speaker 4: So he was in the league. He was in the league,
Speaker 4: but he'd already been in what four or five? Well
Speaker 4: he had to be what biscuit seventy eight something like
Speaker 4: that when he came out, So yeah, he was in
Speaker 4: the league. Yes, yes, yes, yeah, yep.
Speaker 11: But Hugh green Man went back in the date minut dude,
Speaker 11: was he coming like third or something?
Speaker 4: Yeah? He he was in the day. Yeah. He the
Speaker 4: two the two best the guys you think, oh my gosh,
Speaker 4: who who You're like Hugh Green because the modern part
Speaker 4: and Leroy Selmyn was that guy too at Oklahoma, but
Speaker 4: he went on to a phenomenal NFL career too. But
Speaker 4: Hugh Green was a yeah. On Saturdays, you were when
Speaker 4: you do the highlights, everybody was talking about all the
Speaker 4: great players, and then you never went through a highlight
Speaker 4: on the National Guy college games without Hugh Green's name
Speaker 4: being mentioned. Talking about a disruptor in college guy was unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Talking about him quite regularly. Biscuit knows Hugh Green was
Speaker 4: that guy when he came out of school. Yeah. It
Speaker 4: was nasty, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 11: And and with the rocket is uh name. I think
Speaker 11: the van Fleet deal forty million, that's way too much.
Speaker 11: What what do you think the Rockers are willing to
Speaker 11: paint is? Do you think it's the numbers right at thirty?
Speaker 11: Maybe for three years or two years or well what
Speaker 11: you think is going to be the sweet spot? Now
Speaker 11: I'll hang up with this.
Speaker 6: They appreciate it. I mean it's definitely gonna trend more
Speaker 6: towards thirty. I mean again, you know when you did it,
Speaker 6: it was a we need to add adults to this team,
Speaker 6: we need to add veterans, and you know, we also
Speaker 6: know that if we're going to add those guys that
Speaker 6: are worthwhile, well then the overpays got to happen.
Speaker 4: What if I said between ninety and ninety five for
Speaker 4: three years, yeah, that that should get it done. I
Speaker 4: would think so, because I don't think you're getting that
Speaker 4: anywhere else. No, And that's that's still hefty. And he's
Speaker 4: at the stage of his career with that, I think
Speaker 4: it's fair. But you know, two or three years stretch
Speaker 4: it out that the thirty thirty one million a year,
Speaker 4: that's stout fair. Yeah, he's say thirty two million in
Speaker 4: the final year if he's still playing for it. Treat
Speaker 4: the guy right, you show you're showing me care and
Speaker 4: yeah you get it done. Absolutely fair. Yeah, for sure,
Speaker 4: he's not gonna he's not going to miss a me. No,
Speaker 4: you'll be fine. Pay rent mortgage, know, yeh be all right,
Speaker 4: it'll be good. He'll be good.
Speaker 6: Dana Brown coming up in about thirty minutes here. But
Speaker 6: uh yeah, training camp worse places to have it. I
Speaker 6: can think of them. We'll talk about it here. Sean
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Speaker 6: Rockets pushing back their deadline to extend or just decide
Speaker 6: to give the team option to Fred van Vliet. That
Speaker 6: would be actually more operative one the team option to
Speaker 6: June twenty ninth and Texans resigned defensive tackle fully fought
Speaker 6: a Cassi to a deal. Sean, you went through ot
Speaker 6: as you went through mini camp, you went through training camp.
Speaker 6: I mean, training camp is not what it used to be.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I hear the stories from you
Speaker 6: from from our good buddy Greg Cook, Indie, you know
Speaker 6: when he was here, you know, just tell us stories
Speaker 6: like Indy. Indy was actually the guy that had told
Speaker 6: us and Indy hopefully I'm not letting too much out
Speaker 6: of the bag here, but had told us a story
Speaker 6: about how hard training camps were, that huge gatorade bottles
Speaker 6: would be needed in the dorms because you'd be so
Speaker 6: tired that you couldn't even get out of your bunk.
Speaker 6: That you're like, okay, well, yes, so I'll go ahead
Speaker 6: and use the gatorade bottle. So you don't have those
Speaker 6: days anymore. You don't have the two days you don't
Speaker 6: have you know, the you're you're at it for two
Speaker 6: padded practices and then you're right back at the following day.
Speaker 4: It just it's it's it's changed quite a bit. Well
Speaker 4: we practiced, we could practice three days in a row,
Speaker 4: four days in a row, and two days in full gear. Now,
Speaker 4: as a quarterback, I'm not going to sit here and
Speaker 4: say I went through it and need it or anybody else.
Speaker 4: Now you drop back. You're exhausted, but in a different way.
Speaker 4: Usually it's the mental exhaustion that kicks in because you're
Speaker 4: putting in. You know, you will wake up the first
Speaker 4: day of tray, especially when you're young, if you're a veteran,
Speaker 4: had been the system, it's a little different, right, But
Speaker 4: you show up a training camp and you're putting in,
Speaker 4: you know, first day, eight runs, seven passes, five formations,
Speaker 4: four motions, a apartridge in a pair tree and that's
Speaker 4: the morning. And then after your exhaustion, you go get
Speaker 4: a quick nap, have lunch, you're back at a meeting,
Speaker 4: and then you go back on the field. And now
Speaker 4: it's cumulative. Okay, what we did in the morning, now
Speaker 4: we're putting in the afternoon stuff and then we're going seven.
Speaker 4: I said, oh, now it's two minute drill and it's
Speaker 4: so it's mental exhaustion. But yeah, those guys and then
Speaker 4: you run and stay in shape and lose weight. But
Speaker 4: you can't practice two days in a row in pads now,
Speaker 4: let alone to practices in a row. So it's not
Speaker 4: like tougher. The rules are just different the rules. It's
Speaker 4: not the players that are softer. The rules have allowed
Speaker 4: them to be softer. When I say softer, meaning they
Speaker 4: don't practice as much training camps, what two and a half,
Speaker 4: three weeks maybe before you break camp. Heck, you get
Speaker 4: into the point now where if some are having it
Speaker 4: at home, they're just letting their guys stay home. We
Speaker 4: had to go check into dorms or a hotel, stayed
Speaker 4: out the whole time, six weeks, five weeks, depending on
Speaker 4: what it was. So and that's okay. I used to
Speaker 4: love going to training camp like with the fellows, and
Speaker 4: it was awesome, and I like the chess chess match
Speaker 4: and went into the preparation. Yeah, and then now take
Speaker 4: a defensive end or defensive lineman, an offensive lineman, and
Speaker 4: they're they're they're thump and you're not hitting the quarterback.
Speaker 4: But you know the cardio stuff and the mental exhaustion.
Speaker 4: But those guys are you're a corner, you're running all day,
Speaker 4: you're middle linebacker, and that was a time, dude, in
Speaker 4: practice you go live, you're taking on fullbacks in ISO
Speaker 4: and all these concussions we talked about during games, What
Speaker 4: about the time that constantly these guys in practice are
Speaker 4: helmet the helmet, meeting each other in the hole and
Speaker 4: seeing stars ten times of practice. It was different. It's different.
Speaker 4: They're working less, meaning less time and making more. And
Speaker 4: that's the way it's set up. I mean it's I
Speaker 4: don't have a problem with it. I actually think they
Speaker 4: miss out on some of the stuff we had we
Speaker 4: got to do, not the two days in pads. I
Speaker 4: get you got to preserve the players, but the simple
Speaker 4: fact of being around longer in the dorm stuff, I
Speaker 4: think you built relationships better. I actually miss I loved
Speaker 4: to go into training camp because all the all those
Speaker 4: challenges was fun. But yeah, day four, every guy I've
Speaker 4: ever met wants to quit, retire. Heuring Day four of
Speaker 4: two days, it's like, you know what, I'm gonna put
Speaker 4: my degree to work. I'm done. And that's what you'll
Speaker 4: say that when you go to the next morning, when
Speaker 4: they could for the morning practice, you I could get
Speaker 4: in a shower, you big beat and you go and say,
Speaker 4: I mean your arm's about to fall off, and let
Speaker 4: alone the head and the arms of all these linemen
Speaker 4: that are beating on each other. I just have my arm.
Speaker 4: It's about And you're like, you know that's okay. After
Speaker 4: this practice, I'm quitting. Yeah, I'm gonna go. So you
Speaker 4: get the end hit forces, you get a new energy.
Speaker 4: You got Oh, I'm retired, I'm done, and then you'll
Speaker 4: go practice. You'll take your ass back to the door,
Speaker 4: sleep or say go at the grind again. That's the
Speaker 4: mental and emotional grind is far more worse than anything.
Speaker 4: But they don't do it. It's different. I think they
Speaker 4: miss out on and I think that's why they're sloppy football.
Speaker 4: Our training camps were longer and you get to work
Speaker 4: on it. And once again, I don't care about the
Speaker 4: preseason games. I don't it's nice to win them. Denny
Speaker 4: Green always said, listen, if we're going to play them,
Speaker 4: whether it's the second or third ringers, we're playing them
Speaker 4: to win them. You're just not playing at the expense
Speaker 4: of losing Randy Moss to an ankle, are right, but yeah,
Speaker 4: play them to win them. But our practices is where
Speaker 4: you knew you were going to make a team because
Speaker 4: they were physical and they were nasty, and you got
Speaker 4: after it, and they were highly competitive and Blitz pick
Speaker 4: up all those things and fist fights are flying on
Speaker 4: a daily basis. But that's where you make the team.
Speaker 4: If you don't get a chance to show your stuff
Speaker 4: in the preseason, if you're the third guy and you
Speaker 4: can't get through it, you can't get out of huddle
Speaker 4: and line up. You may have all the take talent
Speaker 4: in the world, but practice three, you're running a post
Speaker 4: when we call a corner because you didn't stay in
Speaker 4: your playbook the night before. And they say, well, games
Speaker 4: matter more, not in the preseason getting ten snaps. It's
Speaker 4: all the stuff leading up that gives you those ten STAPs.
Speaker 4: If you don't bypass your ass, you won't see you
Speaker 4: won't get a sniff of it.
Speaker 6: Oh it's awesome, I mean it's lessons learned from the past.
Speaker 6: I mean, if you want these guys to be able
Speaker 6: to play as many years as possible, and you also too,
Speaker 6: you want a quality of life when you're done. I mean,
Speaker 6: how many guys do you see walk away from the
Speaker 6: game early because they're like I just I want to
Speaker 6: be able to be in the sixties and not feel
Speaker 6: like I'm nineties.
Speaker 4: And they can because backup quarterbacks making eight million bucks. Yeah,
Speaker 4: kickers making five million a year, they're all valuable. I'm
Speaker 4: not said, I'm not diminishing them, but yes, so it
Speaker 4: allows you to, if you're smart, make a whole bunch
Speaker 4: of money quick and play seven years instead of fifteen.
Speaker 4: And that's when that's when you listen. When you know,
Speaker 4: when it really becomes work that you like, I've dread
Speaker 4: the off season training, that's probably the time to walk
Speaker 4: away because that Patty started and you start thinking about
Speaker 4: and when I open this business, and you could do both,
Speaker 4: but you know when your mind starts to say I
Speaker 4: wish I was put on a coat and tie and
Speaker 4: talking behind the mike as opposed to get my ass
Speaker 4: ready to play, that most players know, and then you're
Speaker 4: used to have to hang on to play a couple
Speaker 4: extra years because you get some extra money at the
Speaker 4: end of a career. Right, Oh yeah, guys can walk
Speaker 4: away now earlier because their priority shift and they don't
Speaker 4: want to when they're seventy. Wonder how in the world
Speaker 4: they're going to get their third knee replacement. Well you
Speaker 4: can really only have two. But you get what I'm
Speaker 4: saying though.
Speaker 6: And in mini camp was probably even more of like
Speaker 6: you're kind of like, we're just kind of getting a
Speaker 6: taste of this, but it's not really even.
Speaker 4: Yet, you know, Dan, I didn't we didn't have OTAs.
Speaker 4: You had off season program where voluntary, which to me
Speaker 4: always met mandatory show up and you'll go out and
Speaker 4: throw Volunteer coaches wouldn't be out there, but you go
Speaker 4: and throwing routes to large it and those guys because
Speaker 4: they of their staying in the off season going home
Speaker 4: for a little while so year around the facility. As
Speaker 4: I said yesterday, but we didn't have ots. We had
Speaker 4: off season program, which is voluntary. You had too many
Speaker 4: You had a rookie minute camp that the perimeter people, quarterbacks,
Speaker 4: veterans would show up to, and then we had the
Speaker 4: veteran Mini camp, and then you may had one more
Speaker 4: but that that was the chance you had. You had
Speaker 4: three days and those three or four days are the
Speaker 4: week that you had for the mini camp was to
Speaker 4: get yourself ready. So they had it in their eye.
Speaker 4: I like the way this guy spins it, or this
Speaker 4: guy runs routes. So when you got back in pads
Speaker 4: actually came on, then they were looking at you a
Speaker 4: little different than the stretching line because you, oh, kid,
Speaker 4: we can get him out of the hudle a as
Speaker 4: a rookie quarterback or running back who has been in
Speaker 4: our playbook. Just we're putting in just a little bit
Speaker 4: of installation and they can handle it mentally. That's really
Speaker 4: what you're looking for. And then up close to see
Speaker 4: a guy running routes and compared to large it, you know,
Speaker 4: and learning from him. So yeah, that's where you didn't
Speaker 4: have all these OTAs to make a long impression. You
Speaker 4: had to make a quick impression. So when you got
Speaker 4: to training camp, they were looking at you different in
Speaker 4: pads and giving you that run in pads you want.
Speaker 4: Imagine six quarterbacks in camp, can't get them all work,
Speaker 4: so you better catch their eyes somehow some way. Now,
Speaker 4: off season program OTA's lasts longer but the voluntary, then
Speaker 4: you get the mandatory and then you go to training
Speaker 4: camp and in truth, you know, they know who ninety
Speaker 4: two percent of their roster is going to be before
Speaker 4: training camp starts.
Speaker 6: When it comes to mini camp, how would it suit
Speaker 6: you to go to Maui for mini camp? That's what
Speaker 6: the Rams are doing. I freaking love it. Why wouldn't you.
Speaker 4: It's a little team building, it's a little fun after
Speaker 4: you get off the field go you know what it is.
Speaker 4: It's the Pro Bowl early or late should we say,
Speaker 4: but before you go in season, it's one of those
Speaker 4: let's go there, let's train, you get some sand training.
Speaker 4: But then afterwards we get to go out on the
Speaker 4: beach and you get to go deep sea fishing and
Speaker 4: you get to play golf. Why wouldn't you do that?
Speaker 4: What a cool thing to fly everybody in and have
Speaker 4: them go there. It's a camaraderie thing, Sean mcvagh. They
Speaker 4: get that team building. You're not going there. They'll put
Speaker 4: it this way. It ain't going to be an over
Speaker 4: business trip. You may have mini camp there, but there's
Speaker 4: also there there is a method the McVeigh and the
Speaker 4: Rams madness to make sure their players know they care
Speaker 4: about them. Who doesn't want to train in Hawaii.
Speaker 6: So if you're the Texans, I mean, you know, close
Speaker 6: to Mexico, you could either go the Gulf side of
Speaker 6: the Yucatan or you could go over to Cago and say, hey,
Speaker 6: let's let's do mini camps.
Speaker 4: Why why wouldn't you, Why wouldn't you so reward players.
Speaker 4: Imagine families say well, let's go over there too, and
Speaker 4: maybe you stay in extra week because now as they
Speaker 4: creep into June, they're going to get that June to
Speaker 4: early July, that five to six week for coaches as well.
Speaker 4: Coach will take a lot of June off and this
Speaker 4: is let's get them ready, have another mini camp and
Speaker 4: then take that off and go. It's just it's a
Speaker 4: hey man, these guys care about us, and we're doing
Speaker 4: it in Hawaii. And don't kid yourself, Sean McVay didn't
Speaker 4: mind being in Hawaii too at that time of year.
Speaker 4: It's kind of a it's kind of the double whammie, right.
Speaker 4: I told you the story I think I told on
Speaker 4: I can't when you go on them, I can't remember.
Speaker 4: I told you the story about David Craig the first
Speaker 4: time I saw him was on the Seattle my first
Speaker 4: minute camp. I ever tell that story on So I
Speaker 4: get drafted, I mean, with the drafts over, I go
Speaker 4: to mini camp and I'm standing there talking. I thought,
Speaker 4: I told you this and maybe I didn't. To a
Speaker 4: rookie wide receiver on the field, I said, I'm beating
Speaker 4: that guy out, David Craig, who got six foot tall.
Speaker 4: I think a jersey hanging down below his elbows, pants
Speaker 4: don't fit right, and I'm thinking, and during warm up,
Speaker 4: I'm you know, throwing a little harder to impress, thinking,
Speaker 4: I got this first mini camp when you walk off,
Speaker 4: you go have dinner the night before, and the next
Speaker 4: day you're on the field, right, yeah, and so you're
Speaker 4: trying to make an impression on all these veterans six
Speaker 4: five too that I'm gonna rip it. Well, he's still
Speaker 4: so we're going through it. I'm thinking, I'm beating him out.
Speaker 4: There's no way this is the David Craig that's strowing
Speaker 4: for all these yards and he in a largent, you know, legendary.
Speaker 4: And I told him I'd looked at Earl winfil and
Speaker 4: I said, I'm beating that guy out. And Earl said
Speaker 4: let's go because he was a rookie rookie wide receiver.
Speaker 4: And by the time we got to about an hour
Speaker 4: and thirty minutes into practice, we started seven seven and
Speaker 4: team and I'm watching David Craig. The ball doesn't hit
Speaker 4: the ground. He's dropping back, throwing post and post corners.
Speaker 4: I'm like, there's no way that ball's complete boom And
Speaker 4: it was like he was handing it off thirty yards
Speaker 4: down the field. Yeah, and by the time we got
Speaker 4: halfway through team and you get a couple snaps, right.
Speaker 4: I went back to Earl Winfield and I said, one day,
Speaker 4: but I'm not beating him out, because dude, he was.
Speaker 4: It was so he geared up right, he was like,
Speaker 4: and the looks are to see. I'm telling you, dude's
Speaker 4: six foot and a half six to one, and the
Speaker 4: uniform fit like a seventh grader that's trying to wear
Speaker 4: a varsity uniform. And we are laughing at and I'm thinking,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna bury this guy when it comes to flow.
Speaker 4: And I learned right then and there. I mean i'd
Speaker 4: learned beforehand, but that physical stuff, which is great becaulse
Speaker 4: I thought farther hard, sure, but when we got into
Speaker 4: a huddle and got out of the huddle boom boom
Speaker 4: boo boom boom boom, And I'm like, oh okay. And
Speaker 4: he went to Milton College. It turned into a junior
Speaker 4: high school. That's when I realized these guys are And
Speaker 4: I played at SC with all these great all Americas,
Speaker 4: great players, but even the NFL is just it. And
Speaker 4: you realize, man, those this quarterback, Yeah, he's went and
Speaker 4: he was smart as hell, man, that dude. And and
Speaker 4: so I thought, okay, now I'm in. Now, Now I
Speaker 4: know what it's gonna take, because now you're to the
Speaker 4: point where the mental is going to outlast the physical.
Speaker 4: He usually does, but those many can. I miss him.
Speaker 4: I miss as much as anything in my career. I
Speaker 4: miss the sitting around and the laughter with the fellas.
Speaker 4: And I promise you, as i'm saying, we all hear this.
Speaker 4: The cheese part of it. Oh yeah, I'd rather be
Speaker 4: back for the stories. And I'm telling you now, dude,
Speaker 4: I'd change turn in all the money from your NFL
Speaker 4: career to give me ten more years of that of
Speaker 4: just the stories and and what I do over again
Speaker 4: with the fellaw not much, because I asked a lot
Speaker 4: of questions around the guys I did. I wanted to learn,
Speaker 4: but I had fun with him. I just you go
Speaker 4: back and say, what would you do now? If you
Speaker 4: go back and still to this day, more than that
Speaker 4: check getting in when you're at your high point and
Speaker 4: making money, the stupidity, I miss more than anything, and
Speaker 4: you'll never you can never get that setting again once
Speaker 4: you're done, unless you're even as a coach. You don't
Speaker 4: because you're not down in locker room with selfish. Right,
Speaker 4: you're a little older and more mature. But man, I
Speaker 4: missed that more name when when athletes tell you that
Speaker 4: they're not joking, most of us would have done it
Speaker 4: for free. We just wouldn't let anybody know because we
Speaker 4: don't want to do it for free. But you would.
Speaker 4: It was it was am I love. I missed that competitive.
Speaker 4: I miss that fight competitive where you had to you
Speaker 4: had nothing, You were an undrafted free agent and you
Speaker 4: had to fight your ass off to make that team.
Speaker 4: I'll never forget my rookie year and what it was like.
Speaker 4: I hope the guys that go enjoy the journey because
Speaker 4: when it's over and it gets going to go fast,
Speaker 4: and if you're fortunate. I was fortunate to play ten
Speaker 4: years m M. Most of them will be out of
Speaker 4: league in five or less. So I hope they enjoy
Speaker 4: the hell out of it because it is something that
Speaker 4: you look back and say, what would I have done different?
Speaker 4: Don't ask what if? Just make sure you know what
Speaker 4: you did.
Speaker 6: Locker room and the road trips. That's those are the
Speaker 6: memories you likely carrying. Yeah, no, you can't replace it either.
Speaker 6: I mean you you just hit it right on the head.
Speaker 6: So those are the things that come to mind. College football.
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Speaker 6: beIN reports that President Trump is going to have a
Speaker 6: Commission on College Sports, and on three's Peter Nikos Nakos
Speaker 6: however you say his name, has confirmed that another co
Speaker 6: chair is expected to be a well known college booster
Speaker 6: to go along with the primary co chair Saban.
Speaker 4: So let's can we speculate on the name. Have they
Speaker 4: speculated on the second name? Not? Not yet? It's a
Speaker 4: famous college coach or a former Uh it's a well
Speaker 4: known college athletics booster. Oh booster. Well, let's think about
Speaker 4: boosters that are popular. Phil Knight big time?
Speaker 6: Uh, the man who is his uh ambassador to Italy.
Speaker 4: Now tell for Tita, I'll come back to d C. Okay,
Speaker 4: what about Oklahoma State? He's no longer with us, I know,
Speaker 4: but that I'm talking about the Oklahoma State. But his money,
Speaker 4: that that presence from that university. Yeah, yeah, he passed away.
Speaker 4: What has it been two years? Three years? Now? It's yeah,
Speaker 4: why am I losing? Boone Pickens? Exactly?
Speaker 7: He?
Speaker 4: Uh the money for I mean, that's big booster money.
Speaker 4: So who takes on that role a right point. He's
Speaker 4: probably been passed away longer than that. But you know
Speaker 4: we called we played that game of how long ago?
Speaker 4: And you say three years and it was like this, right, God,
Speaker 4: what that long? But yes, I'm trying to think around
Speaker 4: about night obviously jumps to the forefront tilman Fertita here,
Speaker 4: And there's probably names that we're not mentioning that we
Speaker 4: know that are big. And I'm trying to think across
Speaker 4: the country names and when you say their name, like, oh,
Speaker 4: and by the way, who is it? So yeah, interesting,
Speaker 4: But if Saban's on it, you know where we're headed.
Speaker 4: We're going to try to do everything we can to
Speaker 4: regulate this in a different way and stay in between
Speaker 4: the lines. And I rarely like getting government involved in
Speaker 4: anything outside of government, let alone in government. I don't
Speaker 4: really want them meddling in this. You want to exactly,
Speaker 4: I do not like it. But when you say Saban
Speaker 4: in college football, I'm willing to listen because I know
Speaker 4: he has the betterment of the place, especially since he's
Speaker 4: not even coaching now anymore. But that's the reason he left,
Speaker 4: the betterment of of getting kids paid. But make sure
Speaker 4: that we're not so out of hand that you're forcing
Speaker 4: coaches to leave and players to do it. So I
Speaker 4: think it's good. And whoever that big contributor is is,
Speaker 4: you know, as far as a big alumni and a
Speaker 4: big you know, one of those guys who's on the
Speaker 4: board and you know, gives money and is a powerful
Speaker 4: position if we can get it changed for the better
Speaker 4: where both sides win, because right now and the one
Speaker 4: that's not winning, the fan doesn't win. The fan doesn't win,
Speaker 4: you don't have the you know, who's my team? What
Speaker 4: are we doing? And now? And it even with all
Speaker 4: these rule changes and nil and transfer portal, I almost
Speaker 4: feel like you can cheat the system easier. Now does
Speaker 4: that make sense that that, oh it's not hand to
Speaker 4: hand cash? But really it isn't. Isn't it really hand
Speaker 4: to hand cash?
Speaker 6: You get a guy that was supposed to go play
Speaker 6: at LSU and then all this time.
Speaker 4: Million to go to Michigan. That's hand to hand cash.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you create stuff for that right as an
Speaker 4: alumni and big money and and on some guys like
Speaker 4: Larry Ellison at Oracle with his wife, I think is
Speaker 4: a Michigan alone, right? Is it? What's twelve million? I mean?
Speaker 4: And we have a lum at every school that can
Speaker 4: afford to say, Oh, I can fut that myself. I'll
Speaker 4: make that an interest by the time the year's over. Right.
Speaker 4: So I don't know, but I'm always I don't care
Speaker 4: who's the president or when government's involved in it. I think, man,
Speaker 4: that's probably outside your lane. But we're gonna need some
Speaker 4: regulation when it comes to it, and if that will
Speaker 4: speed up the process as long as the decision makers
Speaker 4: get it. Whoever, those guys Aren'tking Nick Saban and whoever
Speaker 4: this big booster is.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean this all started probably about what fifteen
Speaker 6: years ago, where it's pay the players, pay the players.
Speaker 4: All right, well, how does that look? I don't know.
Speaker 6: It's like, okay, so you're just wanting to spend people's money,
Speaker 6: but you don't want to have a plan to doing it.
Speaker 6: Let me tell you what really rich people don't like
Speaker 6: to do. They don't like to just give away their money.
Speaker 6: Hence why they're really rich. Uh, And they will question everything.
Speaker 6: They got the most money and they will be the
Speaker 6: tightest with it, and they have question and hents. Like
Speaker 6: you said, they're pretty good decision makers. Hence how they
Speaker 6: got to this point.
Speaker 4: But you got to push the write buttons in this
Speaker 4: and hopefully the one thing about this is the hopefully
Speaker 4: lightning speed in which we can change it. But don't
Speaker 4: just change it so it's fallen downhill and everything goes
Speaker 4: to hell that way, But make sure it's a methodical
Speaker 4: change that hits properly so we're not back to the
Speaker 4: archaic ways of these kids not getting anything. But then
Speaker 4: we can't leap frog and get to the point where
Speaker 4: they're they're dictating everything that goes on. And the n
Speaker 4: C two A is no longer a factor in preventing
Speaker 4: this so far because they haven't stepped up. The n
Speaker 4: C DOUAA is just not even a factor whatsoever. It's
Speaker 4: as bad as governing bodies there is. And I want
Speaker 4: you to think about the IOC and others that that's
Speaker 4: bad boxing. And you think about that, and we got
Speaker 4: to the point where it's the worst, said me, exactly.
Speaker 4: And it's a tall boy to trust me. And that's
Speaker 4: and that's what they, you know, decided, might even be
Speaker 4: a growler. You know what.
Speaker 6: What they decided at the beginning too, when all of
Speaker 6: this you know, was made available, was oh well, for
Speaker 6: the longest time. We've been depriving these guys of these
Speaker 6: chances and ladies, but we've been depriving the athlete. So
Speaker 6: these chances. So let's go ahead and turn the fire
Speaker 6: hose on. And then they ripped the nozzle off the
Speaker 6: you know, the the faucet right there, so it just
Speaker 6: kept flowing. And now all of a sudden you're just
Speaker 6: kind of looking at it and saying, Okay, now this
Speaker 6: has kind of gotten out of hand.
Speaker 4: Right now, you've got to go back and fix it.
Speaker 4: Who knew that was going to happen? Everybody, right, but
Speaker 4: did nothing about it? That's exactly right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So well see, I mean I would have to
Speaker 6: think that you're going to have ads, you know, college presidents.
Speaker 6: I mean, I would think the people, if you're going
Speaker 6: to do this, do it right. Have the people who
Speaker 6: know this on a day to day basis be the
Speaker 6: ones that are saying, all right, hey, this is what
Speaker 6: could make this better, this is how we improve this thing.
Speaker 4: And the negotiations are when both sides win. Sure, and
Speaker 4: that's what we got. We got to keep everything in mind,
Speaker 4: the kid, the parent, the n C two A, the school,
Speaker 4: the coaches along all that. You got to find a way,
Speaker 4: And there's a lot of smart people in the world.
Speaker 4: But it's amazing to me you can't sit around a
Speaker 4: conference room table and say, does this really look good?
Speaker 4: Is this really what's best for college football or basketball?
Speaker 4: And the answers no, So how do we make it
Speaker 4: best for the kid? But not so out of hand
Speaker 4: that the kids running college football when they can't quite
Speaker 4: run their own nose yet.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, Nick Saban said, it is this what we
Speaker 6: want college football to be? Well, now he's got a
Speaker 6: chance to be able to affect it. All Right, it's
Speaker 6: a Thursday, but it's still nine thirty. That's Dana Brown
Speaker 6: joining us here on the Sean Salisbury Show. That's coming
Speaker 6: up right here.
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Speaker 4: Uh, Dan, you've been in this a long time. When
Speaker 4: do you know during a season, like the identity of
Speaker 4: your team, when do you know that, Okay, that's who
Speaker 4: we are. What point should we start to feel that's
Speaker 4: who they are?
Speaker 7: I mean, we get a feel for what the team's
Speaker 7: identity is, you know, coming out of spring training, and
Speaker 7: it's just a matter of when the guys hit their stride,
Speaker 7: you really see it come to fruition. And so I
Speaker 7: mean we we feel like this team has a really
Speaker 7: good identity. It's just you know, we were waiting on
Speaker 7: that offense to really turn around. And so this this,
Speaker 7: this is a really good team.
Speaker 4: So when somebody asks if I were to say, right
Speaker 4: the second we ended spring train and say, Dana, what's
Speaker 4: the identity of the Astros, what would you have told me?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say, Look, we're going to have a
Speaker 7: nice combination of hitting and pitching, along with good defense
Speaker 7: and a good bullpen, and so that that's a recipe
Speaker 7: for winning a lot of games. And so once we
Speaker 7: get on all cylinders, you know, we're going to you know,
Speaker 7: we're going to be explosive. So you know, you know,
Speaker 7: just to be at five hundred right now. Look, we're
Speaker 7: grinding through it, you know, grinding through a few injuries
Speaker 7: as well, And so I think this team is going
Speaker 7: to be really good and they're gonna turn it around.
Speaker 4: Yeah. How close are you data in your mind the breakthrough?
Speaker 4: How close?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 7: You know, we have a few guys that are notorious
Speaker 7: for starting off slow. I think I think we're right
Speaker 7: on the brink of turning this thing around. I'm hoping
Speaker 7: that it's really starts this homestand we've been playing very
Speaker 7: well at home this year, and so you know we
Speaker 7: can get the breakout offense going. You know, I think
Speaker 7: you know that's when we're going to get the multiple
Speaker 7: games over five hundred. So you know that's the goal
Speaker 7: is to get this offense.
Speaker 4: Going, asked those GM data Brown for his weekly visit
Speaker 4: here on the Seawan Salisbury Show. Dan, I was able
Speaker 4: to sit down with Joe before you guys went to
Speaker 4: spring training, and what an engaging time it was. And
Speaker 4: we were talking about from a rookie manager. And I
Speaker 4: remember last year I asked you, is there a big
Speaker 4: learning curve for him? You say, no, he's been in
Speaker 4: baseball long enough. She should fit right in. Well, bingo
Speaker 4: and he and you know, you're going to learn along
Speaker 4: the way like a like a new player, but he'd
Speaker 4: been in baseball, so from year one to year two
Speaker 4: and asking him about, oh, yeah, there's a lot of
Speaker 4: growth that happens. Have you seen growth from Joe even
Speaker 4: though it's early in year two? Have you seen growth
Speaker 4: from a rookie year manager to now?
Speaker 7: Yeah? I mean I think you know you grow in
Speaker 7: that you know, you learn through your decision making process
Speaker 7: of you know, certain decisions that you have to make
Speaker 7: that you know, whether it's to you know, play this
Speaker 7: guy or you know not play this guy, pitch this
Speaker 7: guy or not bring this guy in. There's a learning curve,
Speaker 7: you know. Uh. You know, Joe's experience, though, will will
Speaker 7: help him to bypass a lot of the learning curve.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 7: And so you know, look, this guy has has been
Speaker 7: a good leader down in that clubhouse. He's been here
Speaker 7: for a long time. His presence is is well known,
Speaker 7: and he's got big respect down there, and so we
Speaker 7: look for big things.
Speaker 4: Teter Brown joined us for his weekly visit Dana with
Speaker 4: Lance mccollors. After his first start and then coming into
Speaker 4: somebody had asked me and I said, well, I want
Speaker 4: to see how he feels from start one to start two,
Speaker 4: coming back after you know, all the injuries and how
Speaker 4: he's feeling. So just kind of hanging around, what what
Speaker 4: what's the kind of the feel for him on the
Speaker 4: recovery process before he gets to make his second start.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 7: You know, it's all about how you feel after that start,
Speaker 7: and uh, you know, faithfully, Lance said, he feels good,
Speaker 7: and so that's a good thing. And so you know, uh,
Speaker 7: you know, I look forward to good things on his
Speaker 7: next start. I was very uh satisfied with his With
Speaker 7: his start, you know, he threw three and two third
Speaker 7: scoreless innings. Pitch count got up a little bit, uh,
Speaker 7: you know after especially after he hit that batter, but
Speaker 7: stuff looked pretty crisp. Uh, change up. It's really good.
Speaker 7: Fastball's coming out real good, uh, and the sliders working.
Speaker 7: So you know, look, he's he's working to get back
Speaker 7: to the old lancefer Colors. I think he's right there
Speaker 7: on the brink. And overall, he looked good, very satisfactory outing,
Speaker 7: and I expect good things to come out of him
Speaker 7: the rest of the way.
Speaker 4: Hey, and I'm gonna get back to your team and
Speaker 4: an overall baseball question because I want to seek your
Speaker 4: expertise on this or just your opinion. Do we need
Speaker 4: a salary cap in Major League Baseball?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Look, I can't get into you know, the thought process
Speaker 7: on you know what we need, you know, in terms
Speaker 7: of salary caps or anything like that. You know, very
Speaker 7: delicate situation. But you know, I would say, you know,
Speaker 7: it's working for some other uh sports, but ultimately, you know,
Speaker 7: we can't really we can't really get into that, you know,
Speaker 7: particularly at this junction.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go, and the rules are set. Got
Speaker 4: to deal with them and operate within him. Dana Brown
Speaker 4: for his weekly visit here on Sports Talk seven ninety
Speaker 4: All right, update on on yourd on and where we
Speaker 4: are and how he's feeling.
Speaker 7: Yeah, feeling a lot better.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 7: Look, ultimately, you know your lions had you know this, uh,
Speaker 7: you know before you know the you know, the muscle
Speaker 7: strain in the right hand. You know, these power hitters, man,
Speaker 7: you know, they swing big bats and sometimes you know,
Speaker 7: you know, their hands whill will get a little aggravated.
Speaker 7: The good thing is that we don't think this is
Speaker 7: going to be long. We jumped on it right away
Speaker 7: when he said he didn't feel good, and so you know,
Speaker 7: this muscle strain shouldn't you know, shouldn't take long at all.
Speaker 7: You know, hopefully we get him back here, you know,
Speaker 7: within the next week or so. But you know, I
Speaker 7: think look that was probably part of you know, what
Speaker 7: he was feeling and getting couldn't get through it, and
Speaker 7: this thing happens, and and so that the best thing
Speaker 7: is to let it heal, give him some time off
Speaker 7: and then get the real jord On on the other
Speaker 7: side of this injury. And so you know, but he's
Speaker 7: doing well. The pain is gone and we just have
Speaker 7: to let it, uh, just let it heal and rest.
Speaker 4: Hey, Dana, is just just to make sure we're clear.
Speaker 4: So when we're not giving out any wrong information, this
Speaker 4: in and you kept you're saying the muscle. So this
Speaker 4: is a soft tissue, not a structural issue with his hand.
Speaker 7: Correct, It's a muscle strain and so that's a good thing.
Speaker 7: So there's no ligaments or anything like that. Uh, just
Speaker 7: a soft tissue and we're always going to be fine.
Speaker 7: It's just gonna be a few days. I mean, you
Speaker 7: know for most people you know who are out there.
Speaker 7: You know, when you when you strain a muscle, you
Speaker 7: got you you really have to let it rest and
Speaker 7: once it heals, you're you're back to normal. And so,
Speaker 7: as I mentioned before, this guy swings a big bat.
Speaker 7: He's a big power hitter, and these things happen with
Speaker 7: with hitters from time to time.
Speaker 4: You the partial Jake Myers, we've talked about elite defender
Speaker 4: Dana and you know, the last couple two three years,
Speaker 4: if he's the center fielder for the most part and
Speaker 4: plays great defense, and he's had his struggles at the plate.
Speaker 4: So I'm just kind of curious with you guys, because
Speaker 4: you guys have held him in high regarden, rightfully, So
Speaker 4: I'm just curious about is this closer to the hitter
Speaker 4: that you expected when you evaluate him? And can he
Speaker 4: continue this? Can he be a two eighty two eighty
Speaker 4: five guy throughout the season applied with that elite defense.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Jake moore a is a you know,
Speaker 7: two fifty to two to seventy guy. I will definitely
Speaker 7: take the two eighty he can give us. Yeah, if
Speaker 7: he can give us, if he can give us a
Speaker 7: two fifty to two to seventy average with a seven
Speaker 7: to fifty ops, that would be very welcome. And right
Speaker 7: now he's doing very well with the bat. Of course,
Speaker 7: he's great defensively, and you know, he's pretty much fulfilling
Speaker 7: his potential as a hitter right now and he's playing
Speaker 7: a little bit above that and that's great, you know,
Speaker 7: that's that that increases his h impact on the team.
Speaker 7: And so that's very welcoming u for us, of course,
Speaker 7: and so we hope he continues this to continue this
Speaker 7: hot streak, and he's been playing well for us, and
Speaker 7: you know, with that big game that he had, he
Speaker 7: pretty much carried us.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
Speaker 7: Sometimes you know, when your big boys go down, or
Speaker 7: if your big boys aren't hitting, you know, you need
Speaker 7: some of the guys, you know, at the bottom of
Speaker 7: the lineup to be able to pick you up a
Speaker 7: little bit. And Jake, you know, has been able to
Speaker 7: do that, and that's very welcoming and like, you know,
Speaker 7: getting the defense on top of that, that's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 4: Hey, Dan, is there anything different you you evaluate this?
Speaker 4: It's been a specialty years for years. Is there anything
Speaker 4: different about his approach at the plate or mechanically that
Speaker 4: we're seeing different from him than we have in the past.
Speaker 7: Yeah. I think what happens when these guys turn the
Speaker 7: corner like this, they bear down, they get good pitches
Speaker 7: to hit, they take the bad pitches, and they get
Speaker 7: in good hitting counts. He likes to hit, you know,
Speaker 7: he does damage early, and so I think, you know,
Speaker 7: he's getting his pitch and he's been driving it and
Speaker 7: doing well. And I think a big part of any
Speaker 7: major league success as a hitter, it's it's simple as
Speaker 7: hit good pictures, take bad pitches and sometimes the stuff
Speaker 7: at the major league level is so nasty that, you know,
Speaker 7: pictures starting to strike zone, you know, pictures fall out
Speaker 7: of the strike zone, and that that's the difficulty of hitting,
Speaker 7: and that's why we don't have a ton of great
Speaker 7: major league hitters. I mean, it's it's the toughest thing
Speaker 7: it's sports to do to hit a round object with
Speaker 7: a round object square and so, uh, you know, hitting
Speaker 7: could be very difficult, and I think that, you know,
Speaker 7: if we could simplify it, I think when we can
Speaker 7: turn this thing around too as well.
Speaker 4: Data with young players, whether it's a rookie or a
Speaker 4: guy who's you know, been in the minor leagues and
Speaker 4: getting his opportunity and is in the infancy of his career, Well,
Speaker 4: what's I don't know if tougher is the right word,
Speaker 4: but what's the way you approach it? Is it just
Speaker 4: individual like more, play them every day so they can
Speaker 4: fight through the stuff, or rest him more, and it's
Speaker 4: becomes a platoon, you know what I'm saying, when you're
Speaker 4: still trying to find themselves. What's the best way to
Speaker 4: do it at bats every day or let him sit
Speaker 4: and watch time play two rest to play to rest one.
Speaker 4: How's that approach or is it just an individual thing
Speaker 4: depending on the player.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think when these guys are young sort of
Speaker 7: they take camp Smith for example, you know, he's a
Speaker 7: young guy. He he hasn't played a ton of games
Speaker 7: you know, each year, and so you kind of have
Speaker 7: to gradually build him up to that and you know,
Speaker 7: you have to monitor that if he gets hot, you
Speaker 7: can kind of ride him a little bit, and so
Speaker 7: you know, you kind of have to ease your way
Speaker 7: into this. And you know, I think there's going to
Speaker 7: be a period, you know, right around that you know,
Speaker 7: one hundred and fifty at BATS or so. I think
Speaker 7: you're going to really see some explosiveness come. And I
Speaker 7: think he's showing us, you know, glimpse of coming attractions
Speaker 7: and that's the beauty of it. But you know, to
Speaker 7: make no mistake, I think camp Smith is going to
Speaker 7: be pretty good, you know, just using him as an
Speaker 7: example of, you know, right, and I think you're starting
Speaker 7: to see it some with the Cinzo you got some
Speaker 7: time last year. You're starting to get you know, into
Speaker 7: this thing a little bit more. And these young guys,
Speaker 7: I think these are going to be two you know,
Speaker 7: corner pillars for us down the stretch, you know, and
Speaker 7: and in the years to come, you know, you may
Speaker 7: have the Cinzo and left Camon right, and these are
Speaker 7: going to be two big pieces for us down the stretch.
Speaker 7: And these guys are learning on the job and they're
Speaker 7: going to be good. I mean, they both have power.
Speaker 7: They both can hit with power. You know. The defense
Speaker 7: is really you know coming. You know, camp Smith has
Speaker 7: been really good, right the Sinzo is getting better every day.
Speaker 7: And so sometimes these young guys you really have to
Speaker 7: bring them along gradually. You know, some young players they
Speaker 7: come in and they're like gangbusters right away, and the
Speaker 7: other players you have to bring along. And I think
Speaker 7: both these guys were bringing them along the right way,
Speaker 7: and we don't want to overwhelm them. And you're going
Speaker 7: to see some success, h for sure. And then they're
Speaker 7: starting to show it, Dana.
Speaker 4: And I'll leave you with this in two years. I've
Speaker 4: asked you this question a couple of times and you
Speaker 4: haven't missed on this yet. So i'll ask it with
Speaker 4: Descenzo five years from now. What position is he a
Speaker 4: regular at in base? Where do you see him with
Speaker 4: your talent evaluation? Where is his spot, whether it's on
Speaker 4: this to anywhere. I'm just saying, where's he going to
Speaker 4: be a regular at in his career? Position wise?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's going to be left field or
Speaker 7: or first base. You know, it would be my thought
Speaker 7: process from an evaluation standpoint. You know, Ut potentially those
Speaker 7: two positions, you know, depends on how it plays out.
Speaker 7: And you know, once once the bat comes, it's got
Speaker 7: a chance to be a pretty big one because he's
Speaker 7: got really good at the velocities in power. So uh
Speaker 7: but yeah, those two positions, Uh, it's where he may
Speaker 7: end up being a regular. I think he'll have some
Speaker 7: games where he can date and do some things like
Speaker 7: that as well. But those are the two positions I
Speaker 7: would I would project kind of.
Speaker 4: Nice having an outside linebacker with that kind of versatility
Speaker 4: and can run and hit. Hunt Dana, it's not a
Speaker 4: bad gig? Is it not a bad gig?
Speaker 7: Do what big do? That isn't in power?
Speaker 4: We'll take it any day of the week. Data good stuff, man.
Speaker 4: We'll look forward to talking to you next week, and
Speaker 4: we really appreciate your time as always.
Speaker 7: All right, let's turn it around Astro fans right now
Speaker 7: is coming home and we got a good chance to
Speaker 7: get on the run. So we're eighteen and eighteen thirty
Speaker 7: six then and got one hundred and twenty six to go.
Speaker 4: There you go appreciate it, but who's counting? Right there?
Speaker 4: You go data. Thanks, Ma, I appreciate it, look forward
Speaker 4: to it next week. He'll join us on Wednesday at
Speaker 4: nine thirty. We'll be right back. We'll finish it up,
Speaker 4: talk about what Dana said and some really good stuff
Speaker 4: in there. It is Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 4: That's beutiful third.
Speaker 6: So I'm guessing that about middle of next week he
Speaker 6: could come back, and it sounds like we're on track
Speaker 6: for that to maybe be a case.
Speaker 4: He said, it's progressing and as long as it's not bothering,
Speaker 4: and we'll see. It's always setbacks always concern me on
Speaker 4: soft tissue because at some point you got to tell
Speaker 4: you when it's structural, you know, you go either get
Speaker 4: it fixed and repaired or the structure part, well, how
Speaker 4: do you know? You know constant, you know, MRIs and
Speaker 4: the rest of it. But you can like a hamster,
Speaker 4: it's like tangible right right, The tangible part of a
Speaker 4: soft tissue, and so what do you do after a
Speaker 4: handful of days. You got to test it, right, So
Speaker 4: I'm always concerned, like when a guy comes off a hammy,
Speaker 4: like Steph Curry comes off Miss Game two, come off
Speaker 4: of hammy, how will the quick burst and the quick
Speaker 4: twitch happen? And I'm always concerned, Well, look, it could
Speaker 4: be a flare up. So in the soft tissue, that's
Speaker 4: what you got to guard against is and at some
Speaker 4: point you got to lead up to it because you
Speaker 4: just don't want to run him back and they say, oh,
Speaker 4: it feels good, and all of a sudden, first thing
Speaker 4: he takes it's the you know, it starts to linger.
Speaker 4: That's my only concern about soft tissue is the lingering
Speaker 4: and when it comes to your hand or the wrist area. Dude,
Speaker 4: when you're a big power hitter who, like you said,
Speaker 4: there's going to be strain and stress on it. So
Speaker 4: that's my concern better than structural. But you just got
Speaker 4: to guard against the lingering. And then truth Dan, at
Speaker 4: the end of this, if it's ten days and he's
Speaker 4: not ready to come back, that there'll be a reason
Speaker 4: for it. Now, I don't know how much it would
Speaker 4: be alarm, but the soft tissue. If you think he's healthy,
Speaker 4: take a couple extra days as the way I would.
Speaker 4: But I'm not a doctor. It just you don't want
Speaker 4: it to linger all year. We're in Game one hundred,
Speaker 4: one hundred and it's still still a problem. Yeah.
Speaker 6: And you know, with Cam Smith and Zach Dezenzo, I
Speaker 6: mean talking about those guys saying they could be corner
Speaker 6: pillars for the organization for years to come.
Speaker 4: That's what I see.
Speaker 7: I do.
Speaker 4: Now he mentioned first base, which he's built for that
Speaker 4: as well. But if he's versatile enough where you can
Speaker 4: still find that first basement and put that guy in
Speaker 4: the outfield, that's you just not not just cornerstone. Two
Speaker 4: corner outfielders that are that are really really freaking good man.
Speaker 4: For sure. I'm saying, big body, power guys that can
Speaker 4: hit the baseball and cover. I'm anxious to see both
Speaker 4: of their as they evolve. But if you're not excited
Speaker 4: about that, you know both of them. But we were
Speaker 4: talking to Senzo. If the like I said, if the
Speaker 4: performance matches the the bill and the physical prowess, you're
Speaker 4: in for a corner outfield is pretty nasty man, for sure.
Speaker 6: It's good to always have guys that you can count on,
Speaker 6: not only this season but down the road, and so
Speaker 6: far you've been able to count on both of those.
Speaker 4: I can't wait to see what it looks like this
Speaker 4: year and moving forward, no doubt about it.
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