Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine hileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on
Speaker 2: a newer entertainment property, and for this week of June second,
Speaker 2: we are kicking off.
Speaker 3: A new watch.
Speaker 2: It is Duster on HBO Max, starring lost own Josh
Speaker 2: Holloway and.
Speaker 1: His sloppy hair and his hair and his much older
Speaker 1: face his mind.
Speaker 2: Told her face in his seventies, garb Oh.
Speaker 1: It is super groovy, it's far out, it's uh, you know,
Speaker 1: takes me back to the days of my youth.
Speaker 2: So the basic backstory here this is an eight episode series.
Speaker 2: I believe we watched the first two and we will
Speaker 2: watch the subsequent ones one week at a time.
Speaker 3: Right, So we watched.
Speaker 2: Number one Baltimore Changes Everything and number two Suspicious Minds.
Speaker 2: And at first I was like, oh, there's not a
Speaker 2: lot of parenting in these and then you really I realized. Well,
Speaker 2: in the first episode, the FBI agent who is one
Speaker 2: of the leads, called her mom because she was frustrated,
Speaker 2: and her mom like, there you go always, you always
Speaker 2: figure it out.
Speaker 3: And then fair enough she.
Speaker 2: Had she had a flash of insight. Yes, And then
Speaker 2: we have one guy trying to avenge his brother, somebody
Speaker 2: else trying to avenge their father. We have a stepmother issues, yes,
Speaker 2: so we.
Speaker 1: Have him driving a young child around much too fast.
Speaker 1: Don't bring your niece, slash whatever on crime things with
Speaker 1: you because then the the you know, the kid's gonna
Speaker 1: want a snack, and in the getting of a snack,
Speaker 1: the clerk at the place who you're getting the.
Speaker 3: Heart to human heart.
Speaker 1: Heart from to deliver for something else is going to
Speaker 1: remember that kid, and that's how they're going to find you.
Speaker 1: So do not parenting tip. Do not bring young children
Speaker 1: with you on your nefarious criminal dealings. And if you do,
Speaker 1: bring some cinnamon chips with you, right, having to have
Speaker 1: a little picnic basket in the back full of treats.
Speaker 3: Parents come prepared.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, this is a basic parenting move. Now he is
Speaker 1: her sensibly her uncle, although my husband was of the
Speaker 1: opinion that it was really his daughter. And if there
Speaker 1: was a clue of that, I missed it. But sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not outside the roma possibility in the the girl
Speaker 1: is pregnant now, so yeah, maybe the girl's mother. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: I remember her when she was a cheerleader on the
Speaker 1: Disney Channel. I'm ana calling a girl. I'm sorry, no offense.
Speaker 2: Well, I just didn't want her to be confused with
Speaker 2: the child that's right in the car. But yeah, there's
Speaker 2: a part where she's she's talking to Sawyer, you know,
Speaker 2: his name is Jim on this show, and she's like,
Speaker 2: this is why she can't know, So that I.
Speaker 1: Believe that was it. That's what my husband heard, and
Speaker 1: I did not picked up. It does seem as though
Speaker 1: just all sorts of possible dishonesties and cover ups.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's quite the tangles, so tangled. I barely got in.
Speaker 2: I glossed over much of the the setup, which is
Speaker 2: that there's this brand new FBI agent, a black woman
Speaker 2: named Nina Hayes who comes to the Phoenix Bureau or
Speaker 2: Phoenix office of the Bureau at her own request, and
Speaker 2: they were like, we're not doing this because you asked
Speaker 2: for it, but sure you can go. So she's there
Speaker 2: because she wants to take down this crime boss guy.
Speaker 2: And Sawyer Jim is a driver.
Speaker 3: For this crime boss dude.
Speaker 2: So but she figures out that she can get him
Speaker 2: working for her, right, so that is her plan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she is from Baltimore, and so does he
Speaker 1: nickname her Baltimore or do other people.
Speaker 2: Call her that he calls her that he's.
Speaker 1: Into the nicknames in this this is basically Sawyer sent
Speaker 1: back in time from the island and you know, given
Speaker 1: a whole nother identity. But it looks the same except
Speaker 1: that his face is considerably and I know there's some
Speaker 1: of the reviews of it have said that it doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense what age is he supposed to be because
Speaker 1: it's the seventies and if he was in Vietnam, it
Speaker 1: would have been not long ago enough for him to
Speaker 1: look as old as he does. So is he supposed
Speaker 1: to be his actual Josh Halla away age or is
Speaker 1: he supposed to be a different age, in which case
Speaker 1: more makeup? Please? What is exactly? And I think it's
Speaker 1: one of those you have to let art flow over
Speaker 1: you man, just just lay back and enjoy the grooby
Speaker 1: vibes and don't ask questions. And you know, it's fun
Speaker 1: to see recognizable people popping up, like Corbyn Burnson is
Speaker 1: his dad? And yes, Patrick Warburton was the guy in
Speaker 1: the second episode Sunglasses. Yes, and the weird creepy cop
Speaker 1: who's blackmailing Jim is Don't a Loge. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've seen seen him in anything, but I would
Speaker 1: never have recognized him. I read a review that said
Speaker 1: an unrecognizable Don't a Lope character, and I'm like, like, why, Yes,
Speaker 1: it is unrecognizable. I looked up it up and I
Speaker 1: am dB and sure enough he's there. And so they've
Speaker 1: you know, pulled in a lot of.
Speaker 2: And I couldn't figure out what I remembered. The actor
Speaker 2: who plays Ninah Rachel Hilson, she it was on This
Speaker 2: is Us. She played the young version of the wife
Speaker 2: of Sterling K. Brown's character in Flashbacks.
Speaker 1: If you Will everybody's here, been in something somewhere. Gaelo
Speaker 1: Grady is the bad stepmom and lots of faces. It's
Speaker 1: a good it's a big IMDb show.
Speaker 3: Who is this?
Speaker 1: I recognize that person?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah? And you know who plays so there
Speaker 2: was an agent before before Nina who was you know,
Speaker 2: working on this case and who is mysteriously no longer there.
Speaker 3: And she goes to.
Speaker 2: See his wife and his wife is played by Adrian Barbo.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Who Then they have some young twinkie
Speaker 1: playing right party? Yep, Oh my gosh, I did not
Speaker 1: realize that.
Speaker 2: Yeah that found on IMTB.
Speaker 1: Wow, excellent, what a fun thing because I was thinking
Speaker 1: Adrian Barbo feels about it being a being a youngster
Speaker 1: in this thing. But oh good, I am so glad.
Speaker 1: Good for her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she said, sure, you can do that, as long
Speaker 2: as you give me a part.
Speaker 1: Yes, And Greg Grunberg, briefly of Lost, turns up in
Speaker 1: a thankless role of the Captain. I guess who has
Speaker 1: to keep telling her no, stop doing these things.
Speaker 3: Oh that's who that guy is.
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, yes, the boss.
Speaker 3: But we have been have we seen him? I'm lost yet?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the pilot.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's.
Speaker 1: On for like about thirty seconds. He killed by a monster.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thrown up in the tree. Yeah, okay, gotcha.
Speaker 1: Yeah, gosh, this is his flashbag. He was working in
Speaker 1: the FBI for a long time and then he became
Speaker 1: a pilot. Can't look out for that. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a lot, got a lot going on. Yeah, and interesting
Speaker 1: to see all the different actors and you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's gonna be I can see here and going forward
Speaker 1: it's going to be a heavily Hey it's that guy cast. Yes,
Speaker 1: So that's always fun, right. I enjoy that. I enjoy
Speaker 1: that because I am dB is a thing that exists.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you didn't have IM before that, it would
Speaker 2: be extremely annoying.
Speaker 1: Yes, So let us all just give a moment.
Speaker 3: Say thank you. I AMDB.
Speaker 1: Thank you, I am dB. I'm so glad you're here. Yes,
Speaker 1: And you know, just just sort of like I do
Speaker 1: often wi shazam, just like you know, the internet and
Speaker 1: cell phones have a lot to answer for, lots of
Speaker 1: bad things, lots of ills of society boo, but they
Speaker 1: got it right a few times. And let's celebrate the
Speaker 1: things that make our lives easier. That we don't have
Speaker 1: to go that guy, that guy, who's that guy? Do
Speaker 1: you recognize that guy who was that guy in? That
Speaker 1: guy was in something and now we can look up
Speaker 1: so lots of that guys in this this thing. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: you know, shady, questionable dealings and scandals that run deep,
Speaker 1: lots of people you can't trust.
Speaker 3: All the way to Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's it's they're going to be against her
Speaker 1: every minute. But I do like the fact that they
Speaker 1: gave her a backstory other than just I am super
Speaker 1: ambitious and I'm taking this hard case and I'm going
Speaker 1: to be that she has a personal connection to It
Speaker 1: works out very well, right, So, but yikes, seems like
Speaker 1: maybe you've got idea to just move someplace else and
Speaker 1: just leave all the stumpine. Lots of bad stuff going on,
Speaker 1: And how did that guy not get killed? The un
Speaker 1: loge somehow survives getting shot a whole bunch of times.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, many times.
Speaker 1: With extreme prejudice. It's not like they just were kind
Speaker 1: of trying to scare him. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But although with sunglasses supposed to be blind.
Speaker 1: Maybe so, maybe so, or maybe just the thickness of
Speaker 1: the glasses made it difficult to aim, but it looked
Speaker 1: to me like he was aiming right at his head. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that he should have been. But you know, you know,
Speaker 1: big bads die hard, so he's going to be around
Speaker 1: to make trouble. I guess lots of trouble. Trouble everywhere, right,
Speaker 1: seventies were trouble. Just look at the clothes. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I keep forgetting this is like a period piece. And
Speaker 1: then they will throw in something like Adrian Barbo talking
Speaker 1: about how so much she wants to be in mod
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, yeah, right, a long time ago.
Speaker 1: And oh, that's so funny that that's her. I missed
Speaker 1: that when I was doing my hay that guy so
Speaker 1: he just didn't look like her to me at all,
Speaker 1: But now I see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I also really I enjoy the credits. The opening credits
Speaker 2: with like toy cars racing in the desert.
Speaker 3: I thought that was cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was well done.
Speaker 3: What else?
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 3: The stepmother.
Speaker 1: Awful?
Speaker 2: And because the dad is kind of sweet.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, yes, definitely.
Speaker 2: He's trying to be there for his son in a
Speaker 2: weird way, and she is trying to stop him.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed the In the second episode, you get a
Speaker 2: lot more of the father son with.
Speaker 3: Jim and his dad.
Speaker 1: So I enjoyed there at the beginning of the second episode,
Speaker 1: just like Max throwing in, Oh hey, by the way,
Speaker 1: it's cable enjoy this bear boob. Yeah, for no reason whatsoever,
Speaker 1: just as we can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I feel like, are they going to basically
Speaker 2: start every episode of him waking up in someone else's bed?
Speaker 3: Could well be that's.
Speaker 1: Just their fun little cast and call out for ladies
Speaker 1: who would like to show off.
Speaker 2: One one body part, one.
Speaker 1: Body part, one naked body part. Yeah, but really take
Speaker 1: their clothes when they're in the show. Leave them only address.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but let's see.
Speaker 1: You know, I was noticing they were. This could kind
Speaker 1: of be a parenting tip if you have like some
Speaker 1: sensitive thing to talk about something would be bad for
Speaker 1: other people to hear about something you're kind of trying
Speaker 1: to keep secret. Maybe a personal discussion with your kid
Speaker 1: about something or about some friends or other people. Maybe
Speaker 1: don't have it in a dust at like full voice.
Speaker 1: You know. The two FBI agents are our two heroes,
Speaker 1: are just sitting there in a diner talking about these
Speaker 1: dangerous people and what they're going to do, and it's like,
Speaker 1: should not be you know, maybe a booth in the
Speaker 1: back at least would be a little more circumspect, because
Speaker 1: this is they've they've painted this guy as such a
Speaker 1: big bad that he's going to know everything. He's connected everywhere.
Speaker 1: There's not like a henchman in the next booth. There's
Speaker 1: not like a waitress who's on the take. You guys, guys,
Speaker 1: take care of yourselves. We like you. Her little partner
Speaker 1: who I'm afraid she's going to get in trouble is
Speaker 1: the what was it what is his name?
Speaker 3: One?
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, he's great.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's very sweet, and I want her to take
Speaker 1: good care of him because she's getting him in all
Speaker 1: sorts of trouble. That's not really his trouble, except that
Speaker 1: he would like to be respected at bi agent. Also, yeah,
Speaker 1: they had that nice little conversation at the end of
Speaker 1: the second episode, but all sorts of problems. Other parenting tips,
Speaker 1: you know, interesting that even families of dangerous, scary gangsters
Speaker 1: have sibling rivalry. Might think that if you are the
Speaker 1: kind of dad this guy is, that your kids would
Speaker 1: be afraid of you and that they would just they
Speaker 1: would either stick together out of that fear or they would,
Speaker 1: you know, not make trouble for you. But nope, brother
Speaker 1: and sister are going at it. Sister's doing scary things.
Speaker 1: The kid, can you just give somebody a heart transplant?
Speaker 1: Like in a basement. Isn't there like immune immunotherapy drugs
Speaker 1: that need to be taken, Well, I suppose you could
Speaker 1: steal those. He looks fine. He's just laying there in
Speaker 1: his bedroom, ntering with his sister.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, and her whole thing is yep. And uh.
Speaker 1: You know one thing that I would like to share.
Speaker 1: Nina did this, and I would advise this not to
Speaker 1: be done. From a parenting point of view, tell your kids.
Speaker 1: Don't do push ups with your hands on the floor
Speaker 1: of a parking garage and then touch up your hair
Speaker 1: with same hands. Bring some wet wipes with you if
Speaker 1: you if you feel like you must do push ups right,
Speaker 1: you know, also know that kids will remember things that
Speaker 1: happened and will look for revenge. Nina's dad may feel
Speaker 1: that he covered up well what was going on and
Speaker 1: that she never knew anything about it. But kids are
Speaker 1: noticing right when something's off, and if things go south,
Speaker 1: they will come, you know, they will go through school
Speaker 1: and through FBI training and all of that to come
Speaker 1: back and make trouble. So ask them to go into
Speaker 1: the other don't bring them to work with you if
Speaker 1: you think you're gonna have some trouble. Uh, spare them
Speaker 1: the revenge, right. Ditto brothers getting blown up. Yeah, don't
Speaker 1: tell your kids details of your crime.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a there's a lot of don't do it care.
Speaker 1: Right, but there was also Uh when the when her
Speaker 1: partner is talking about, you know, the things that he's
Speaker 1: he's good at but nobody appreciates. That's a difficult thing
Speaker 1: when your kid has strengths that do not match his
Speaker 1: particular time in life or his particular circle or uh,
Speaker 1: you know time in history.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, if only things were different, this would
Speaker 1: be really great. But you gotta find you something else, buddy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've had that feeling. So help your child find something.
Speaker 1: Either strengthen those things and find an outlet for them, right,
Speaker 1: or see if you can steer them into something or
Speaker 1: more appreciable and less likely to get you killed than
Speaker 1: being in the FBI, right, and being the guy in
Speaker 1: the FBI who says, but I can do all these things,
Speaker 1: and I will use those to help somebody that you
Speaker 1: don't approve of, and we'll just both get shot somewhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm worried about them. I'm worried about him in particular,
Speaker 1: because I'm pretty sure she's not going to get shot
Speaker 1: a partner. I'm pretty sure that Nina's not going to
Speaker 1: get shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're you're worried about the partner.
Speaker 1: I'm worried about the partner.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Don't go on IMDb if you want to.
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't want to count how many episodes.
Speaker 3: You Yeah, yeah, so I wouldn't recommend that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh well I don't want to be right about that,
Speaker 1: but they certainly are setting it up up.
Speaker 2: Right, So I would say this is enjoyable little uh
Speaker 2: you know, there is there's some gruesomeness.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Leaving aside the human heart and getting sprayed in the
Speaker 2: eye with blood during that during that surgery, there was
Speaker 2: a lot of other grisliness, and I imagine that will continue.
Speaker 3: But yes, it's a fun watch.
Speaker 1: Constant sense of foreboding and dread, like what whatever ideot
Speaker 1: is they can go wrong is going to go wrong
Speaker 1: and there will be blood. Yes, but and you know,
Speaker 1: and every white man is evil. So except for Jim
Speaker 1: and his dad, every every white my man in the FBI.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah they're not.
Speaker 2: I mean Greg Grunberg is, he's on the on the
Speaker 2: fence like he can be sweet.
Speaker 1: Telling her to stop doing what she's doing. So he's
Speaker 1: covering up whatever is needing to be covered up, right,
Speaker 1: But then when.
Speaker 2: She she goes to him and says that she's got
Speaker 2: him to be her informant, he's impressed.
Speaker 1: M Okay, maybe I missed that part. All I saw
Speaker 1: was him telling her stop doing what you're doing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: or I'm going to send.
Speaker 3: You back and you're going to Butte.
Speaker 1: Yes. I bet there's trouble in Butte. I bet if
Speaker 1: you were an enterprising person looking for evil, you could
Speaker 1: mind it in Butte.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: But she is looking for one particular.
Speaker 1: She has a personal steak, she does. I think they
Speaker 1: frowned on personal stakes probably, but so she got to
Speaker 1: keep it on the deal. Now that she's told somebody,
Speaker 1: the person that she tells is going to be immediately
Speaker 1: at risk. Yeah yeah, never mind, right, Well, well we'll
Speaker 1: see so future episode. Yes, maybe he just went off
Speaker 1: to another series. Maybe that's it. They sent them in
Speaker 1: another case.
Speaker 3: Let's hope.
Speaker 2: Well, so next Wednesday we will continue with episode three,
Speaker 2: the title of which seems to be a say secret.
Speaker 2: It is going to drop on.
Speaker 3: The day. It's going to drop tonight.
Speaker 2: As of this recording, but I cannot find anywhere on
Speaker 2: the internet the name of this.
Speaker 1: Episode, So that's weird. Wouldn't it have dropped? It drops
Speaker 1: Thursday night?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Huh, Yeah, it's still episode one.
Speaker 3: One three, So we'll let you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess we could.
Speaker 3: Well, we'll put it in the show notes.
Speaker 2: Yes, we'll know by then, so we'll be back for that,
Speaker 2: and we'll also see you here tomorrow for our weekly
Speaker 2: Roundabout roundup.
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