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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine hileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property, and for this week of June second,

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<v Speaker 2>we are kicking off.

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<v Speaker 3>A new watch.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Duster on HBO Max, starring lost own Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Holloway and.

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<v Speaker 1>His sloppy hair and his hair and his much older

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<v Speaker 1>face his mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Told her face in his seventies, garb Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>It is super groovy, it's far out, it's uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>takes me back to the days of my youth.

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<v Speaker 2>So the basic backstory here this is an eight episode series.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe we watched the first two and we will

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<v Speaker 2>watch the subsequent ones one week at a time.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So we watched.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one Baltimore Changes Everything and number two Suspicious Minds.

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<v Speaker 2>And at first I was like, oh, there's not a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of parenting in these and then you really I realized. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>in the first episode, the FBI agent who is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the leads, called her mom because she was frustrated,

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<v Speaker 2>and her mom like, there you go always, you always

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<v Speaker 2>figure it out.

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<v Speaker 3>And then fair enough she.

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<v Speaker 2>Had she had a flash of insight. Yes, And then

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<v Speaker 2>we have one guy trying to avenge his brother, somebody

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<v Speaker 2>else trying to avenge their father. We have a stepmother issues, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so we.

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<v Speaker 1>Have him driving a young child around much too fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't bring your niece, slash whatever on crime things with

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<v Speaker 1>you because then the the you know, the kid's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>want a snack, and in the getting of a snack,

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<v Speaker 1>the clerk at the place who you're getting the.

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<v Speaker 3>Heart to human heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Heart from to deliver for something else is going to

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<v Speaker 1>remember that kid, and that's how they're going to find you.

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<v Speaker 1>So do not parenting tip. Do not bring young children

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<v Speaker 1>with you on your nefarious criminal dealings. And if you do,

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<v Speaker 1>bring some cinnamon chips with you, right, having to have

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<v Speaker 1>a little picnic basket in the back full of treats.

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<v Speaker 3>Parents come prepared.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, this is a basic parenting move. Now he is

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<v Speaker 1>her sensibly her uncle, although my husband was of the

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<v Speaker 1>opinion that it was really his daughter. And if there

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<v Speaker 1>was a clue of that, I missed it. But sure, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not outside the roma possibility in the the girl

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<v Speaker 1>is pregnant now, so yeah, maybe the girl's mother. Yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember her when she was a cheerleader on the

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<v Speaker 1>Disney Channel. I'm ana calling a girl. I'm sorry, no offense.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I just didn't want her to be confused with

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<v Speaker 2>the child that's right in the car. But yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a part where she's she's talking to Sawyer, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>his name is Jim on this show, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is why she can't know, So that I.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe that was it. That's what my husband heard, and

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<v Speaker 1>I did not picked up. It does seem as though

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<v Speaker 1>just all sorts of possible dishonesties and cover ups.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's quite the tangles, so tangled. I barely got in.

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<v Speaker 2>I glossed over much of the the setup, which is

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<v Speaker 2>that there's this brand new FBI agent, a black woman

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<v Speaker 2>named Nina Hayes who comes to the Phoenix Bureau or

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<v Speaker 2>Phoenix office of the Bureau at her own request, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were like, we're not doing this because you asked

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<v Speaker 2>for it, but sure you can go. So she's there

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<v Speaker 2>because she wants to take down this crime boss guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And Sawyer Jim is a driver.

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<v Speaker 3>For this crime boss dude.

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<v Speaker 2>So but she figures out that she can get him

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<v Speaker 2>working for her, right, so that is her plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and she is from Baltimore, and so does he

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<v Speaker 2>Call her that he calls her that he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Into the nicknames in this this is basically Sawyer sent

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<v Speaker 1>back in time from the island and you know, given

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<v Speaker 1>a whole nother identity. But it looks the same except

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<v Speaker 1>that his face is considerably and I know there's some

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<v Speaker 1>of the reviews of it have said that it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make sense what age is he supposed to be because

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<v Speaker 1>would have been not long ago enough for him to

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<v Speaker 1>to be his actual Josh Halla away age or is

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<v Speaker 1>he supposed to be a different age, in which case

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<v Speaker 1>more makeup? Please? What is exactly? And I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those you have to let art flow over

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<v Speaker 1>you man, just just lay back and enjoy the grooby

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<v Speaker 1>vibes and don't ask questions. And you know, it's fun

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<v Speaker 1>to see recognizable people popping up, like Corbyn Burnson is

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<v Speaker 1>his dad? And yes, Patrick Warburton was the guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the second episode Sunglasses. Yes, and the weird creepy cop

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<v Speaker 1>who's blackmailing Jim is Don't a Loge. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you've seen seen him in anything, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>never have recognized him. I read a review that said

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<v Speaker 1>an unrecognizable Don't a Lope character, and I'm like, like, why, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it is unrecognizable. I looked up it up and I

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<v Speaker 1>am dB and sure enough he's there. And so they've

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pulled in a lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>And I couldn't figure out what I remembered. The actor

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<v Speaker 2>who plays Ninah Rachel Hilson, she it was on This

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<v Speaker 2>is Us. She played the young version of the wife

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<v Speaker 2>of Sterling K. Brown's character in Flashbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>If you Will everybody's here, been in something somewhere. Gaelo

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<v Speaker 1>Grady is the bad stepmom and lots of faces. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a good it's a big IMDb show.

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<v Speaker 3>Who is this?

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<v Speaker 1>I recognize that person?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah? And you know who plays so there

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<v Speaker 2>was an agent before before Nina who was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>working on this case and who is mysteriously no longer there.

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<v Speaker 3>And she goes to.

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<v Speaker 2>See his wife and his wife is played by Adrian Barbo.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. Who Then they have some young twinkie

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<v Speaker 1>playing right party? Yep, Oh my gosh, I did not

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<v Speaker 1>realize that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that found on IMTB.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, excellent, what a fun thing because I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>Adrian Barbo feels about it being a being a youngster

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<v Speaker 1>in this thing. But oh good, I am so glad.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she said, sure, you can do that, as long

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<v Speaker 2>as you give me a part.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And Greg Grunberg, briefly of Lost, turns up in

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<v Speaker 1>a thankless role of the Captain. I guess who has

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<v Speaker 1>to keep telling her no, stop doing these things.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's who that guy is.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yes, yes, the boss.

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<v Speaker 3>But we have been have we seen him? I'm lost yet?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's the pilot.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, he's.

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<v Speaker 1>On for like about thirty seconds. He killed by a monster.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thrown up in the tree. Yeah, okay, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, gosh, this is his flashbag. He was working in

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI for a long time and then he became

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<v Speaker 1>a pilot. Can't look out for that. But yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, got a lot going on. Yeah, and interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to see all the different actors and you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be I can see here and going forward

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be a heavily Hey it's that guy cast. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's always fun, right. I enjoy that. I enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>that because I am dB is a thing that exists.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you didn't have IM before that, it would

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<v Speaker 2>be extremely annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So let us all just give a moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Say thank you. I AMDB.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, I am dB. I'm so glad you're here. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, just just sort of like I do

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<v Speaker 1>often wi shazam, just like you know, the internet and

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<v Speaker 1>cell phones have a lot to answer for, lots of

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<v Speaker 1>bad things, lots of ills of society boo, but they

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<v Speaker 1>got it right a few times. And let's celebrate the

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<v Speaker 1>things that make our lives easier. That we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to go that guy, that guy, who's that guy? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you recognize that guy who was that guy in? That

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<v Speaker 1>guy was in something and now we can look up

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<v Speaker 1>so lots of that guys in this this thing. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, shady, questionable dealings and scandals that run deep,

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<v Speaker 1>lots of people you can't trust.

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<v Speaker 3>All the way to Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, it's it's they're going to be against her

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<v Speaker 1>every minute. But I do like the fact that they

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<v Speaker 1>gave her a backstory other than just I am super

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<v Speaker 1>ambitious and I'm taking this hard case and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to be that she has a personal connection to It

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<v Speaker 1>works out very well, right, So, but yikes, seems like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you've got idea to just move someplace else and

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<v Speaker 1>just leave all the stumpine. Lots of bad stuff going on,

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<v Speaker 1>And how did that guy not get killed? The un

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<v Speaker 1>loge somehow survives getting shot a whole bunch of times.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, many times.

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<v Speaker 1>With extreme prejudice. It's not like they just were kind

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<v Speaker 1>of trying to scare him. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But although with sunglasses supposed to be blind.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe so, maybe so, or maybe just the thickness of

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<v Speaker 1>to me like he was aiming right at his head. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that he should have been. But you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>big bads die hard, so he's going to be around

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<v Speaker 1>to make trouble. I guess lots of trouble. Trouble everywhere, right,

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<v Speaker 1>seventies were trouble. Just look at the clothes. Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>I keep forgetting this is like a period piece. And

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<v Speaker 1>then they will throw in something like Adrian Barbo talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how so much she wants to be in mod

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh, yeah, right, a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And oh, that's so funny that that's her. I missed

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<v Speaker 1>that when I was doing my hay that guy so

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<v Speaker 1>he just didn't look like her to me at all,

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<v Speaker 1>But now I see it.

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<v Speaker 2>I also really I enjoy the credits. The opening credits

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<v Speaker 2>with like toy cars racing in the desert.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that was cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was well done.

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<v Speaker 3>What else?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>The stepmother.

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<v Speaker 1>Awful?

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<v Speaker 2>And because the dad is kind of sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I mean, yes, definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>He's trying to be there for his son in a

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<v Speaker 2>weird way, and she is trying to stop him.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed the In the second episode, you get a

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<v Speaker 1>So I enjoyed there at the beginning of the second episode,

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<v Speaker 3>Could well be that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Just their fun little cast and call out for ladies

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<v Speaker 2>One one body part, one.

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<v Speaker 1>Body part, one naked body part. Yeah, but really take

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<v Speaker 1>You know. The two FBI agents are our two heroes,

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<v Speaker 1>are just sitting there in a diner talking about these

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<v Speaker 1>this is they've they've painted this guy as such a

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<v Speaker 1>big bad that he's going to know everything. He's connected everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not like a henchman in the next booth. There's

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<v Speaker 1>not like a waitress who's on the take. You guys, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>take care of yourselves. We like you. Her little partner

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<v Speaker 1>who I'm afraid she's going to get in trouble is

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<v Speaker 1>the what was it what is his name?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, he's very sweet, and I want her to take

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of trouble. That's not really his trouble, except that

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<v Speaker 1>they had that nice little conversation at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the second episode, but all sorts of problems. Other parenting tips,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, interesting that even families of dangerous, scary gangsters

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<v Speaker 1>have sibling rivalry. Might think that if you are the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of dad this guy is, that your kids would

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<v Speaker 1>would either stick together out of that fear or they would,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not make trouble for you. But nope, brother

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<v Speaker 1>and sister are going at it. Sister's doing scary things.

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<v Speaker 1>The kid, can you just give somebody a heart transplant?

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<v Speaker 1>Like in a basement. Isn't there like immune immunotherapy drugs

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<v Speaker 1>that need to be taken, Well, I suppose you could

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<v Speaker 1>steal those. He looks fine. He's just laying there in

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and her whole thing is yep. And uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know one thing that I would like to share.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't do push ups with your hands on the floor

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<v Speaker 1>with same hands. Bring some wet wipes with you if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you feel like you must do push ups right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, also know that kids will remember things that

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<v Speaker 1>that he covered up well what was going on and

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<v Speaker 1>that she never knew anything about it. But kids are

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<v Speaker 1>noticing right when something's off, and if things go south,

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<v Speaker 1>they will come, you know, they will go through school

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<v Speaker 1>and through FBI training and all of that to come

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<v Speaker 1>back and make trouble. So ask them to go into

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<v Speaker 1>the other don't bring them to work with you if

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<v Speaker 1>you think you're gonna have some trouble. Uh, spare them

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<v Speaker 1>the revenge, right. Ditto brothers getting blown up. Yeah, don't

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<v Speaker 1>tell your kids details of your crime.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a there's a lot of don't do it care.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, but there was also Uh when the when her

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<v Speaker 1>partner is talking about, you know, the things that he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's good at but nobody appreciates. That's a difficult thing

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<v Speaker 1>when your kid has strengths that do not match his

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<v Speaker 1>particular time in life or his particular circle or uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know time in history.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, if only things were different, this would

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<v Speaker 1>be really great. But you gotta find you something else, buddy. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've had that feeling. So help your child find something.

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<v Speaker 1>Either strengthen those things and find an outlet for them, right,

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<v Speaker 1>more appreciable and less likely to get you killed than

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<v Speaker 1>being in the FBI, right, and being the guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI who says, but I can do all these things,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will use those to help somebody that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't approve of, and we'll just both get shot somewhere. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm worried about them. I'm worried about him in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm pretty sure she's not going to get shot

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<v Speaker 1>a partner. I'm pretty sure that Nina's not going to

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you're you're worried about the partner.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm worried about the partner.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't go on IMDb if you want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I don't want to count how many episodes.

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<v Speaker 3>You Yeah, yeah, so I wouldn't recommend that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Oh well I don't want to be right about that,

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<v Speaker 1>but they certainly are setting it up up.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So I would say this is enjoyable little uh

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there is there's some gruesomeness.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>Leaving aside the human heart and getting sprayed in the

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<v Speaker 2>eye with blood during that during that surgery, there was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of other grisliness, and I imagine that will continue.

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<v Speaker 3>But yes, it's a fun watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Constant sense of foreboding and dread, like what whatever ideot

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<v Speaker 1>is they can go wrong is going to go wrong

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<v Speaker 1>and there will be blood. Yes, but and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and every white man is evil. So except for Jim

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<v Speaker 1>and his dad, every every white my man in the FBI.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Greg Grunberg is, he's on the on the

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<v Speaker 2>fence like he can be sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>Telling her to stop doing what she's doing. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>covering up whatever is needing to be covered up, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But then when.

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<v Speaker 2>She she goes to him and says that she's got

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<v Speaker 2>him to be her informant, he's impressed.

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<v Speaker 1>or I'm going to send.

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<v Speaker 3>You back and you're going to Butte.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. I bet there's trouble in Butte. I bet if

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<v Speaker 1>you were an enterprising person looking for evil, you could

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<v Speaker 1>mind it in Butte.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>But she is looking for one particular.

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<v Speaker 1>She has a personal steak, she does. I think they

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<v Speaker 1>frowned on personal stakes probably, but so she got to

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<v Speaker 1>keep it on the deal. Now that she's told somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>the person that she tells is going to be immediately

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<v Speaker 1>at risk. Yeah yeah, never mind, right, Well, well we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see so future episode. Yes, maybe he just went off

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<v Speaker 1>to another series. Maybe that's it. They sent them in

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<v Speaker 1>another case.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's hope.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so next Wednesday we will continue with episode three,

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<v Speaker 2>the title of which seems to be a say secret.

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<v Speaker 2>It is going to drop on.

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<v Speaker 3>The day. It's going to drop tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>As of this recording, but I cannot find anywhere on

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<v Speaker 1>Episode, So that's weird. Wouldn't it have dropped? It drops

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday night?

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<v Speaker 1>Huh, Yeah, it's still episode one.

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<v Speaker 3>One three, So we'll let you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess we could.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we'll put it in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we'll know by then, so we'll be back for that,

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<v Speaker 2>Roundabout roundup.

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