WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.720 --> 00:00:05.719 The Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of The Jesse Kelly 2 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:09.679 Show on a wonderful, wonderful Friday. We will get to 3 00:00:09.880 --> 00:00:12.439 Barack Obama and what he said, you know what, We're 4 00:00:12.439 --> 00:00:14.800 gonna get to that right about now. Then we'll even 5 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:16.960 talk a little bit of civil war. Do we have 6 00:00:17.120 --> 00:00:21.120 democrat fatigue? All that, so much more coming up on 7 00:00:21.160 --> 00:00:26.839 the world famous Jesse Kelly Show. Now, let's begin with 8 00:00:26.920 --> 00:00:30.359 this email because it'll lead me right to what Barack 9 00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:34.840 Obama said on stage. The email is Jesse, I still 10 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:39.600 fully believe the Chernoble disaster and other countries finding out 11 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:42.920 about it was the single greatest factor in killing the 12 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:47.119 Soviet Union. They were dying anyway. Of course, communism never works, 13 00:00:47.159 --> 00:00:55.079 so on and so forth. Mikel Gorbachev, Soviet leader, Mikel Gorbachev, 14 00:00:55.799 --> 00:00:59.479 he said this, He said, it was really Chure Nobyl 15 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:03.920 that killed us. It put the final blow on us. 16 00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:09.120 Why why was that the final blow? Well, the Soviet 17 00:01:09.280 --> 00:01:11.840 Union obviously you know about the Communist revolution. They have 18 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:16.359 this Communist revolution nineteen seventeen, of this horrible civil war, 19 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:21.000 and then this major country on Earth, Russia, became a 20 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:25.280 communist country. So you have all this land, all these people, 21 00:01:25.400 --> 00:01:32.000 all these resources under communist control, and they tried to 22 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:40.040 make it work, and things just kept dying. Centralized command 23 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:45.079 of any country and any economy does not work, cannot work, 24 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:50.079 will never ever ever work. But they were able to 25 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:57.599 make it last for decades because of completely controlling information, 26 00:01:58.079 --> 00:02:04.959 interior information and exterior information, meaning they controlled every media 27 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:08.680 source inside the Soviet Union. You weren't going to be 28 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:11.800 a newspaper that stayed open very long if you criticize 29 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:16.240 the communist government. All the TV programming had to be approved. 30 00:02:16.599 --> 00:02:20.719 They controlled all of it, complete one hundred percent control 31 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:25.560 of information, unless you're somebody smuggling in newspapers on the 32 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:29.240 black market, if you are any normal Soviet citizen, every 33 00:02:29.280 --> 00:02:35.080 single thing you see is controlled. Now on the exterior front, 34 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:39.240 people were dying, things were dying inside of the Soviet Union, 35 00:02:39.719 --> 00:02:44.400 but they would tightly control what the outside world could 36 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:50.639 know about. Now, combine that with things like this America's left, 37 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:56.080 it's not just modern America's left. They are communists, and 38 00:02:56.159 --> 00:03:01.159 they will see fellow travelers when they look at other communists, 39 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:07.879 America's journalists. While the Soviet Union was dying, while Joseph 40 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:12.719 Stalin was killing, starving to death millions of Ukrainians. This 41 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:18.439 is famous. Walter Duranti went over there, observed everything, and 42 00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:22.560 came back to America and lined through his teeth everything's 43 00:03:22.599 --> 00:03:26.319 honkey Dory. Can't believe how well it's all working over there. 44 00:03:26.759 --> 00:03:31.159 So the leftists that run the world's media all ran cover, 45 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:34.919 joined forces with the Soviet Union and ran cover for 46 00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:40.039 that evil, murderous regime. Now, this can go on for 47 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:44.159 some time, but it can't go on forever for a 48 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:45.439 couple different reasons. 49 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:49.360 One of the main reasons is everything's dying. 50 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:54.080 Yes, you can control everything for a period of time, 51 00:03:54.159 --> 00:03:57.520 but you can't control the fact the economy is dying, 52 00:03:57.599 --> 00:04:03.599 industries dying, people are dying. Everything is failing. Things are 53 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:08.039 failing because a bunch of moron communists run everything. They 54 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:11.120 are appointed for their communism and not their ability. None 55 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:14.360 of this sounds familiar, right, They're appointed for their communism, 56 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:16.720 not their ability. And when you do that, what do 57 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:20.240 we call THEI the death of everything. When you do that, 58 00:04:20.480 --> 00:04:24.839 everything around you will slowly but surely die. So the 59 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:28.439 country was rotting. Painted rust is what it's been referred 60 00:04:28.480 --> 00:04:32.040 to as rotting from the inside. Year after year, more 61 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:35.879 and more rot. The second part, the second reason is 62 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:43.600 you cannot completely control information forever. Even in a situation 63 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:47.480 where you control every TV station, every newspaper. It was 64 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:51.120 widely known in the Soviet Union that things didn't work. 65 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:55.120 It was widely known that the government was corrupt. It 66 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:59.240 was widely mocked when the government would put out on 67 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:02.199 the news no that we had a record crop this year. 68 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:05.360 Don't worry another record crop. You know why, because every 69 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:07.639 year they said it was a record crop, yet people 70 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:11.399 were starving. Eventually, you're a Soviet citizen, you turn on 71 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:13.519 the news and you spend the whole time rolling your 72 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:17.519 eyes at the blatant lies you're being told. So all 73 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:21.600 these things were stacking up on them already, and then 74 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:25.639 Chernobyl happened. They tried to cover it up as best 75 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:29.480 they could because they're communists. But you, at some point 76 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:33.120 in time you kind of have to let the rest 77 00:05:33.160 --> 00:05:35.439 of the world know that there may be a little 78 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:39.800 hint of nuclear fallout coming your way. Once that word 79 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:43.959 came out, the world started to say, wait, what, why, 80 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:45.519 what are you doing? 81 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:46.839 What happened? 82 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:52.519 And you you don't want to, but you have to 83 00:05:52.600 --> 00:05:55.519 open up the books and show the world. This is 84 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:57.279 who we are, this is what we're dealing with. This 85 00:05:57.360 --> 00:06:02.680 is why it failed, and they're the world truly found out. 86 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:06.279 The Emperor has no clothes. It can't be covered up anymore. 87 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:13.319 This huge country, really great, amazing historical country, Russia has 88 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:17.759 been completely destroyed from the inside by the Communists. Everything rotted, 89 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:22.199 they killed everything. But that leads me perfectly to what 90 00:06:22.240 --> 00:06:26.639 Barack Obama was talking about on stage. We've talked about 91 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:30.639 before how the Communist lies about everything on purpose. He 92 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:34.040 doesn't do it hesitatingly on purpose. When you're in the 93 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:36.920 Soviet Union, you must lie about the crop. You know, 94 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:40.759 you have to lie about everything at all times. It's necessary. 95 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:43.399 You are expected to lie. He would get in trouble 96 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:46.600 for telling the truth. How many times have I told 97 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:50.480 you about social media, evil as it may be, being 98 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:53.000 possibly the final death blow to the communist. 99 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:56.560 Well, this communist knows it. 100 00:06:56.720 --> 00:06:58.240 Part of what we're gonna have to do is to 101 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:04.040 start experimenting with new forms of journalism, and how do 102 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:12.000 we use social media in ways that reaffirm facts, separate 103 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:16.439 facts from opinion. We want diversity of opinion, we don't 104 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:19.680 want diversity of fact. By the way, it will require 105 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:28.439 some government I believe some government regulatory constraints. 106 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:34.319 What are the facts around Hunter Biden's laptop? What about 107 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:37.600 the Government Censorship Bureau would have said the facts were around. 108 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:40.959 That, around some of these business models in a way 109 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:45.160 that's consistent with the First Amendment, but that also says, look, 110 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:53.519 there is a difference between these platforms. 111 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:58.000 Letting all, I'm going to play it again. Don't worry, 112 00:07:58.040 --> 00:07:59.639 I'm going to play the whole thing again. But listen 113 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:02.519 to how, Oh listen to how he has to walk 114 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:04.839 this tight rope. You know what he wants. 115 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:05.199 I know what. 116 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:08.800 He wants, complete control of information, the silencing of his enemies, 117 00:08:08.839 --> 00:08:11.040 and he wants to use the government for it. He 118 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:15.399 can't come out and say that. So listen to how 119 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:21.040 Pete talks it. We obviously the First Amendment's important of that, 120 00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:24.560 but you see, we kind of have to ease our 121 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:25.319 way to listen. 122 00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:29.240 Now we talk voices be heard versus a business model 123 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:35.120 that elevates the most hateful voices, or the most polarizing voices, 124 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:40.720 or the most dangerous in the sense of inciting violence. 125 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:44.399 Voices. I'm going to play this again. 126 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:46.360 It's a minute long in its entirety and I'm not 127 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:50.039 going to interrupt it this time, because this is American 128 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:54.960 communism one oh one. When Democrats speak, they are trying 129 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:59.240 to push Soviet style communism on this country, Soviet style control. 130 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:03.720 But they understand in this country, because that's not in 131 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:07.559 our DNA, they have to be very careful with how 132 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:11.519 they present that. So they'll praise the Constitution, the First Amendment, 133 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:14.039 the first of any of these things. I'm going to 134 00:09:14.039 --> 00:09:17.840 play this in its entirety because this is American Democrat 135 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:21.600 one oh one in the year twenty twenty five. They're 136 00:09:21.720 --> 00:09:27.360 selling communism to you while trying so so hard to 137 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:28.679 not let you in on the game. 138 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:30.240 Part of what we're going to have to do is 139 00:09:30.279 --> 00:09:36.000 to start experimenting with new forms of journalism and how 140 00:09:36.039 --> 00:09:43.200 do we use social media in ways that reaffirm facts, 141 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:48.279 separate facts from opinion. We want diversity of opinion, we 142 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:51.320 don't want diversity of fact. By the way, it will 143 00:09:51.360 --> 00:10:00.480 require some government I believe some government regulatory constraints around 144 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:04.360 some of these business models in a way that's consistent 145 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:09.919 with the First Amendment, but that also says, look, there 146 00:10:09.960 --> 00:10:19.200 is a difference between these platforms. Letting all voices be 147 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:25.559 heard versus a business model that elevates the most hateful voices, 148 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:31.000 or the most polarizing voices, or the most dangerous in 149 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:33.360 the sense of inciting violence. 150 00:10:34.639 --> 00:10:35.120 Voices. 151 00:10:36.039 --> 00:10:38.759 Our Communists aren't any different than the Soviet ones, and 152 00:10:38.840 --> 00:10:42.000 Barack Obama's been trying to walk that tightrope for a very, 153 00:10:42.120 --> 00:10:46.279 very long time. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on 154 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:50.360 a fantastic Friday and ass doctor Jesse Friday member. You 155 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:54.159 can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. 156 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:57.039 Let's move off of this current stuff and do some 157 00:10:57.080 --> 00:10:58.799 other things for a little bit, Jesse, I have a 158 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:02.240 Friday history crush question for you. Do you think the 159 00:11:02.440 --> 00:11:07.279 Army of Tennessee led by Forrest with Pat Clayburne as 160 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:11.000 his right hand in eighteen sixty two instead of brag 161 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:14.159 with Kirby Smith, could have actually won the war? 162 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:19.320 I love the show. Forrest would be Nathan Bedford. 163 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:23.799 Forrest, one of the founders of the Ku Klux Klan, 164 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:31.000 so a real, real, real, like, vehemently racist human being. 165 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:33.840 He believed one of those guys, it was in his bones. 166 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:35.320 But when it. 167 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:37.639 Comes to combat, you gotta take the good with the bad. 168 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:41.960 He was an incredible general. He was incredible general. He 169 00:11:42.279 --> 00:11:45.639 was a nightmare for the North. 170 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:46.360 The North. 171 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:50.080 There's all kinds of writings about this freaking guy is 172 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:53.320 a nightmare causing all kinds of problems. He had all 173 00:11:53.320 --> 00:11:56.440 these cavalry raids where he was just very very good 174 00:11:56.440 --> 00:11:59.360 at combat. He was very good. Ah, probably not the 175 00:11:59.399 --> 00:12:01.159 type of person and you want to invite into a 176 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:05.480 soul food restaurant, but a very very very good general. 177 00:12:06.440 --> 00:12:09.440 I don't believe the South could have won period. I 178 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:11.879 just don't believe that. I think the South's only chance 179 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:14.200 to win the Civil War. And this you can debate me. 180 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:16.440 It's not like I know, we're all debating history here. 181 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:21.440 As soon as Lincoln won reelection, it was over for 182 00:12:21.519 --> 00:12:25.360 the South. I think the South's only chance was Lincoln 183 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:30.720 losing re election. New president steps in and says, hey, South, 184 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:35.159 you can stay a separate country. That or the South 185 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:40.159 getting another major European country to join with them, which 186 00:12:40.200 --> 00:12:43.200 they did try to do to join with them. And 187 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:46.240 the problem always is with the Civil War. This is 188 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:51.120 a great statistic, but it's just it's so revealing. New York, 189 00:12:51.159 --> 00:12:53.120 which was obviously part of the North. Not to insult 190 00:12:53.159 --> 00:13:00.080 your intelligence, New York had an economy five times the 191 00:12:59.799 --> 00:13:04.799 size as the entire South. When you look at the 192 00:13:04.799 --> 00:13:09.159 Civil War geographically, it looks kind of even right, and 193 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:11.720 you think, wow, it's North versus South. You got a 194 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:14.840 bunch of southern country boys versus a bunch of urban 195 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:15.919 Northern guys. 196 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:21.240 But it wasn't even close to that. It was. 197 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:24.679 It was very similar to Japan in World War two. 198 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:29.840 Japan and US in World War two. Initially, because Japan's 199 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:32.799 tip of the spear was very sharp and they were very, 200 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:37.240 very capable, they had a lot of initial success against US, 201 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:39.279 and the South had the exact same thing, where they 202 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:42.440 really slapped the North around a lot. They had better generals, 203 00:13:42.559 --> 00:13:45.759 much better generals earlier in the war. They had guys 204 00:13:45.799 --> 00:13:48.720 who were just better shots. They were better troops earlier 205 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:52.919 in the war. But you better end that war really 206 00:13:53.000 --> 00:13:56.799 quickly if you're them, because you don't have the economy 207 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:00.639 to sustain a military on a long enough period of time. 208 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:04.720 The exact same thing doomed Japan. Yeah, December seventh, nineteen 209 00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:08.240 forty one, couldn't have gone better. Nineteen forty two. Really, 210 00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:12.279 most of it, Japan's rocking and rolling. They're sinking our 211 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:15.840 naval ships off of Guadalcanal. They're having all kinds of 212 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:20.559 success against us, they're rocking and rolling, but they're losing planes, 213 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:23.960 losing ships during this time, and they just didn't They 214 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:26.279 didn't have the economy to produce as much as we 215 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:29.639 could produce, and they just got overwhelmed. The exact same 216 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:33.039 thing went through the South. There's all kinds of historical 217 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:36.879 what if Lee had appointed this guy instead of that guy? 218 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:40.120 What if Lee hadn't done this at Gettysburg. I've seen 219 00:14:40.159 --> 00:14:43.080 this a lot, because Lee made some very fateful decisions 220 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:45.720 at Gettysburg. What if he hadn't done this and had 221 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:49.679 instead done that and the South won at Gettysburg. Even 222 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:53.399 if the South had won at Gettysburg, that wouldn't have 223 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:58.840 changed the trajectory. And the trajectory was the South really 224 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:03.519 never stood ants. They just didn't have it economically. They 225 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:06.879 didn't didn't have it economically. You can't you can't survive 226 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:09.720 forever like that. They didn't even have control of the seas, 227 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:13.279 and you definitely had to have that. You had to 228 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:18.360 try to control the seas. What Chris Chris said, what 229 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:20.159 if we got British support in the set? 230 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:21.840 What's this we stuff? Chris. 231 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:27.440 Okay, so I'll set aside the way Chris asked that question, Uh, 232 00:15:27.519 --> 00:15:29.639 what if we got British, Well, that would have changed 233 00:15:29.639 --> 00:15:35.320 things that you need, You need a big benefactor sometimes 234 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:39.840 when you're the underdog, when you're overwhelmed economically and militarily, 235 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:42.919 you need a big brother of some kind to come 236 00:15:42.960 --> 00:15:46.399 in and help. Now, the problem with that is that's 237 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:50.440 usually gonna come with strings. Look, look, look, actually, look 238 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:52.919 at exactly what's happening right now with Iran and Israel. 239 00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:56.200 Israel's all, hey, America, you could help. You want to help. 240 00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:57.600 I feel like you should help. Hey, why don't you 241 00:15:57.639 --> 00:15:59.600 step in and help. We're accepting all help. You want 242 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:01.000 to help, you want to help, you want to help. 243 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:04.360 I understand why they want that better. Keep in mind, Israel, 244 00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:09.000 that's a dangerous game. American planes start dropping American bombs, 245 00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:13.679 American ships start running missions over there. America is going 246 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:17.480 to choose to have a big say in how things 247 00:16:17.559 --> 00:16:20.559 play out afterwards. You ask big brother to come help, 248 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:23.960 Big brother oftentimes will come help. But then big brother 249 00:16:24.039 --> 00:16:25.960 is gonna pick what we're having for dinner that night. 250 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:29.720 That's kind of how it works. Let's move on. Let's 251 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:34.399 talk about Democrat fatigue? First, why didn't I re enlist 252 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:35.320 in the Marine Corps? 253 00:16:35.759 --> 00:16:36.000 Next? 254 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:41.480 Don't it is the Jesse Kelly Show on a fantastic 255 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:44.360 ass Doctor Jesse Friday, don't mind us. We were just 256 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:47.200 discussing during the break whether we should just go full 257 00:16:47.279 --> 00:16:52.000 conquest and conquer Iran, to which I immediately thought to myself, 258 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:55.600 we should pick up a radio affiliate over there after 259 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:58.480 we conquer it. Don't shake your head, Chris, and then 260 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:01.279 think how big the Jesse cake would be over there? 261 00:17:01.440 --> 00:17:02.360 It would be huge. 262 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:03.399 I can totally see. 263 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:04.079 A la la la la la. 264 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:06.079 It would be enormous. What Chris? 265 00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:06.279 Why? 266 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:06.960 What? 267 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:09.920 It would be enormous over there? I can tell they 268 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:12.720 have an appetite for the Jesse Kelly show. Who doesn't 269 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:16.200 dear machine gun Kelly? Recently, I think I heard you 270 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:19.079 say you didn't re enlist. Not judging, I don't mean 271 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:21.680 to pry personally, but I was curious what led to 272 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:22.400 this decision? 273 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:25.519 Were you disillusioned? Uh? 274 00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:28.079 Did you feel accomplished? You'd accomplished what you'd set out 275 00:17:28.119 --> 00:17:29.960 to do? Why did you decide not to re enlist? 276 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:34.880 His name is Eric Okay, So, when I was in Iraq, 277 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:39.079 I was coming to an end of my four years. 278 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:41.119 It just happened to work out that way. 279 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:41.960 It was. 280 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:45.039 I had months left. It was four or five months left, 281 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:47.799 and my four year enlistment I signed up initially for 282 00:17:47.839 --> 00:17:51.200 a four year enlistment was coming to an end. Now, 283 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:54.680 I know you're gonna find this shocking. I was certainly 284 00:17:54.680 --> 00:17:57.400 shocked by it as well. But I did pretty well 285 00:17:57.480 --> 00:18:01.680 on the ASVAB, the the apptitude to exam you have 286 00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:04.920 to take going into it. I did so well that 287 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:08.200 I qualified for any mos I wanted in the Marine Corps. 288 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:10.319 They were gonna let me do whatever I wanted. And 289 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:13.839 my father was so upset to his dying day about this. 290 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:15.359 I chose infantry. 291 00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:17.000 He was so mad. 292 00:18:17.039 --> 00:18:18.640 He's like, what are you gonna do with that? That's 293 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:21.799 not so, I said, Dad, I'll kill people. That's important anyway. 294 00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:25.960 I They knew that, right, They keep a file on you. 295 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:29.119 And I had been promoted to corporal by that point 296 00:18:29.160 --> 00:18:31.640 in time, so I was a non commissioned officer by 297 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:35.680 that point in time. Now my plan was to get out. 298 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:39.519 I had always intended to do four years. I had 299 00:18:39.559 --> 00:18:42.599 never intended to do eight. I had never intended to 300 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:47.319 be a lifer. I wanted to better myself, serve my country, 301 00:18:47.480 --> 00:18:50.000 grow up quite a bit, which I obviously needed to do. 302 00:18:50.200 --> 00:18:53.440 I totally have by now. I am a very very 303 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:56.559 mature human being. You know, freedom is not free. Da 304 00:18:56.680 --> 00:19:00.640 gone right. I needed a lot and I only wanted 305 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:02.359 four years of it. I wanted to serve, I wanted 306 00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:04.319 to see if I was tough enough to do it. 307 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:08.920 But disillusioned. I don't know how to answer that question. 308 00:19:09.880 --> 00:19:12.960 We were frustrated by the end of Iraq, no question 309 00:19:13.039 --> 00:19:14.720 about it. There were a lot of things over there 310 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:18.680 that chafed on us a great deal, a lot of things. 311 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:21.480 One of the big ones, but it probably was the 312 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:24.319 biggest one for me, was the day we were told 313 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:27.799 to put away our American flags. We were very proud 314 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:31.640 to serve our country. We were flying American flags, and 315 00:19:31.839 --> 00:19:34.839 they came to us and said, well, we don't want 316 00:19:34.839 --> 00:19:38.160 to be viewed as conquerors. Put all your American flags away. 317 00:19:38.680 --> 00:19:41.960 You want to disillusion a bunch of troops, go tell 318 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:45.039 them to put down the flag they're supposedly fighting for. 319 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:48.119 That may have been a small moment for whatever idiot 320 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:50.599 politician or general came up with that policy. 321 00:19:51.319 --> 00:19:52.720 It was not a small moment for us. 322 00:19:53.279 --> 00:19:56.119 That moment right there was probably the moment I didn't 323 00:19:56.119 --> 00:19:56.599 re enlist. 324 00:19:57.480 --> 00:19:59.640 We were very upset. To this day, I'm very upset 325 00:19:59.640 --> 00:20:00.000 about that. 326 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:04.240 So I was, I guess you might say, disillusion a bit, 327 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:08.559 but certainly not hating it. Not hating the Marine Corps 328 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:11.279 by any stretch. I appreciated a lot of things about it. 329 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:16.000 It had been quite an adventure and they came to 330 00:20:16.039 --> 00:20:20.359 me with something every guy wants and offered to be 331 00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:22.720 a spy kind of. 332 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:23.599 Let me explain. 333 00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:27.200 I was told, hey, you need to go down to 334 00:20:27.400 --> 00:20:30.440 battalion headquarters. It wasn't where we were. We were out 335 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:33.079 at a different outpost doing different things. So they had 336 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:35.960 sent a ride out and I was to go down 337 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:40.359 to battalion headquarters. I go in, and this was a 338 00:20:40.440 --> 00:20:44.279 recruiting pitch because of how I'd done on the ASVAV 339 00:20:44.480 --> 00:20:47.160 and I was an NCO and all these other things, 340 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:49.559 good conduct metal and all that crap, which is nothing 341 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:51.559 super special at all. You get that if you just 342 00:20:51.559 --> 00:20:54.279 didn't screw up for three years. But whatever, pretty I 343 00:20:54.319 --> 00:20:57.880 had a very clean record. It looked good. They tried 344 00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:02.160 to recruit me into military until legence. Now this is me. 345 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:08.839 I'm a dude. They got my attention. I said, okay, 346 00:21:09.519 --> 00:21:13.240 I'm listening, and they took me over and they showed 347 00:21:13.240 --> 00:21:16.880 me all the military intelligence you know, stations they were 348 00:21:16.920 --> 00:21:19.519 at and were talking to me about very vaguely about 349 00:21:19.519 --> 00:21:22.880 some things they were doing. And I'm look, I'm half 350 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:25.680 listening because I'm thinking the same thing any red blooded 351 00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:28.759 American mail was thinking. Wow, I'm going to be James Bond. 352 00:21:28.920 --> 00:21:30.720 That's the same thing. Look, look, what do you want 353 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:32.079 me to tell you? I wish I was more mature 354 00:21:32.079 --> 00:21:34.839 about the whole thing. I wanted to be a spy. Okay, 355 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:38.279 I wanted gadgets in my shoes. I wanted an exploding pen. 356 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:40.839 That was all on my mind. Would any of that 357 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:43.480 have happened, Absolutely not. It would have been mostly sitting 358 00:21:43.480 --> 00:21:46.480 down writing reports on Microsoft Word. But in my mind 359 00:21:46.559 --> 00:21:48.000 I had an exploding. 360 00:21:47.559 --> 00:21:52.599 Pen, all right. My one thing was, yeah, I'm I was. 361 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:55.920 Oh, twenty three, twenty two, twenty three at the time, 362 00:21:56.039 --> 00:21:56.599 something like that. 363 00:21:56.720 --> 00:22:00.839 It's twenty two to twenty three. I knew that. Well. 364 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:04.799 For me anyway, my career clock was ticking. I wanted 365 00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:07.559 to go start some sort of a career. So if 366 00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:09.119 I was going to sign up. I think they wanted 367 00:22:09.119 --> 00:22:11.599 me for another three years. If I was going to 368 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:14.640 sign up for that, I wanted some sort of a 369 00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:18.599 skill that I felt would help me with any kind 370 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:20.759 of a career in the real world. 371 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:24.720 So I asked them for a guarantee. 372 00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:27.640 The military, and I don't know whether or not the 373 00:22:27.680 --> 00:22:29.799 private sector runs it, but I know what's part of 374 00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:36.240 the military has intensive foreign language training where they will 375 00:22:36.279 --> 00:22:39.839 take you to a school and we're talking two three months. 376 00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:42.839 I don't want to say fluent, and I've never been there, 377 00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:46.039 so I can't say specifically, but you'll know the language 378 00:22:46.200 --> 00:22:49.319 two three months. Whatever it is. Now they're cramming you 379 00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:52.119 in a classroom and they're beating it into your face 380 00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:54.640 for eight nine hours a day. So don't don't get wrong. 381 00:22:54.960 --> 00:22:57.559 You're gonna pay with sweat and misery for the whole thing. 382 00:22:57.920 --> 00:23:01.000 But at the end of it, we'll speak the language. 383 00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:03.599 You will be able to oblah in a way that only. 384 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:06.400 I can go. What's that, Chris? What did I want? 385 00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:07.400 What did I want? 386 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:12.000 I didn't actually have a specific language. I wanted a 387 00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:15.319 second language because I've always I've always admired it. I've 388 00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:18.599 always thought it was cool when people can speak two languages. 389 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:20.880 And I was always too stupid to ever pick up 390 00:23:20.920 --> 00:23:24.119 those skills myself. So I wanted I didn't care what 391 00:23:24.160 --> 00:23:26.599 it was. It looks good on a resume, whatever it is. 392 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:31.960 What Chris, what you can pick up Rosetta Stone. Well, 393 00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:34.480 I didn't know about all that stuff at the time. Okay, 394 00:23:34.680 --> 00:23:39.519 I wanted another language. I asked for a guarantee. They 395 00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:42.039 would not give it. They tried to give me the 396 00:23:42.160 --> 00:23:45.119 government version of a guarantee of well, we can't put 397 00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:47.039 that in writing, but I think we should be able 398 00:23:47.079 --> 00:23:49.920 to make that happen. I am my father's son. I 399 00:23:49.960 --> 00:23:52.319 don't trust anybody on this planet as far as I 400 00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:54.599 can throw them. I said, put it in writing or 401 00:23:54.640 --> 00:23:57.119