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<v Speaker 1>This episode may contain content of a graphic nature, including

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<v Speaker 1>descriptions of physical and sexual violence against adults, children, and animals.

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<v Speaker 1>Listener discretion is advised.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi everyone, I'm Tanya and I'm Tleah and we are

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<v Speaker 2>Crimes and Consequences, a true crime podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey Shannon, Hey Tanya. How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>I am doing great? How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I am doing pretty good.

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<v Speaker 4>I was on YouTube this afternoon and going over some life.

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<v Speaker 3>Choices I've made in these fifty four years.

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<v Speaker 4>And I thought, you know what, I may have missed

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<v Speaker 4>my calling on becoming a watercolor artist.

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<v Speaker 3>I fucking love watching those water colors. I just want

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<v Speaker 3>to pull out my paints. Everything else be damned. I'm painting,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, so I got to bring myself down. Yea,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you do that? How is your day?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>It was good, busy at my new job. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I have also been questioning every life choice ever made

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<v Speaker 2>in my life. So it's been a it's been a

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<v Speaker 2>depressing week, but quite heavy.

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<v Speaker 3>Quite a heavy week, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you it's not like I have a bad life,

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah exactly, you know, just some choices.

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<v Speaker 4>I shake an angry fist at the sky about you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, and I'm sure some of our listeners can relate.

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<v Speaker 3>So absolutely, you're a good company.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're we're in a good company. But if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to do a watercolor, I'd be happy to buy

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<v Speaker 2>your first I'll be your first commission.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, thank you, you're inspiring me. I think it's not

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<v Speaker 3>really good. Something in the pinks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Oh, she got what she.

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<v Speaker 3>Got for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Today, I have the Lulu Lemon murders today. Have you

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<v Speaker 2>ever heard of the Lulu Lemon murders?

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<v Speaker 3>I have not.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, this is one you all need to buckle

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<v Speaker 2>up for. So and so. Yeah, you're in for quit

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<v Speaker 2>the gruesome story. So first, I'm going to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>about a woman named Jana Trexel Murray. She was born

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<v Speaker 2>in Wichita, Kansas, November twenty second, nineteen eighty. So she

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<v Speaker 2>is a Sagittarius.

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<v Speaker 3>Ooh she is.

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<v Speaker 2>And she was born to her very loving family. Soon

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<v Speaker 2>after her birth, the Murray family moved to Houston, Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>Gina had two older brothers named Hugh and Dirk. They

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<v Speaker 2>were both married at the time of our story. He

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<v Speaker 2>was married to a woman named Kate, and Dirk was

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<v Speaker 2>married to a woman named April, and they had two

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<v Speaker 2>boys together, Kasey and Jay. So she was an Ean. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The Murray parents, Jana's parents, they were David and Phyllis.

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<v Speaker 2>They were just unbelievably proud of their three children and

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<v Speaker 2>and you know they love their grandchildren. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 2>were just a really tight knit family.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Jana's dad, David, was a special operations person who did

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<v Speaker 2>two tours in Vietnam. And in the Murray family there

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<v Speaker 2>was a strong sense of right versus wrong, all American

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<v Speaker 2>values right quote unquote.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, and the military very black and white.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Jana being the youngest and the only girl, she

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<v Speaker 2>really was the glue that held this family together. Her

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<v Speaker 2>brothers and their wives loved her so much. As she's

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<v Speaker 2>growing up and making a life for herself, the Murray

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<v Speaker 2>family is seeing her thrive and they're really excited. So

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<v Speaker 2>when Jana started college, she studied at Saint Louis University

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<v Speaker 2>in Madrid, Spain for two years, before finishing her bachelor's

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<v Speaker 2>degree at George Washington University in Washington, d C. In

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and three. See, that's another life choice I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't make with studying abroad.

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<v Speaker 4>So I exactly gotta scribble that one offer good.

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<v Speaker 3>For your lifetime column.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for you, Jana, I know, good for you. So

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<v Speaker 2>during her undergraduate years, Jana also did a semester at

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<v Speaker 2>c and I don't know what that entails, but it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds fun, right does. And after graduation, Jana started working

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<v Speaker 2>for a company called Halliburton, where she was a market

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<v Speaker 2>rep for five years. We've all heard Halliburton, right, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>With a love of learning and goals to accomplish, Jana

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<v Speaker 2>decided to continue her education at John Hopkins University. That's

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<v Speaker 2>quite prestigious.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so impressive with education. I love that. I love

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<v Speaker 3>it time. Everywhere she went, if she wanted it, she

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<v Speaker 3>went after her.

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<v Speaker 2>She went after it. She was working toward earning a

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<v Speaker 2>dual master's in communication and a master's in Business administration.

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<v Speaker 2>She left her job at Halliburton to focus on school

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<v Speaker 2>and decided to take a part time job as a

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<v Speaker 2>sales team leader at a local Lululemon store. This job

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<v Speaker 2>really allowed her to feed her passions of dance, travel,

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<v Speaker 2>and animals. She was also extensively involved in volunteering with

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<v Speaker 2>various different groups and organizations, and working at Lululemon gave

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<v Speaker 2>her networking opportunities and just like a positive energy around

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<v Speaker 2>the work place. You know. I guess it was a

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<v Speaker 2>really good place to work.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice culture, good culture.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Lululemon franchise really spoke to her personally, and

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<v Speaker 2>she planned to apply to the Lululemon corporate office in Vancouver,

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<v Speaker 2>British Columbia. I didn't know based either. She was going

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<v Speaker 2>to apply there after graduation, after she got her dual

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<v Speaker 2>master's degree. So while Lululemon was originally a part time

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<v Speaker 2>gig for Jana, she fell in love with the company

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<v Speaker 2>and ended up dedicating all her studies toward the company

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<v Speaker 2>and wrote her thesis about Lululemon.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably for her business administration degree.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Although Jana had finished her thesis, she continued to work

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<v Speaker 2>at the store because she loved it, and by the

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<v Speaker 2>end of it, she went from part time to truly

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<v Speaker 2>part of the Lululemon family right, all while juggling her

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<v Speaker 2>master's program and working at the Lulu Stupid or not,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah. Jana was also in a long distance relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with her boyfriend. His name was Fraser Bosel, who was

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<v Speaker 2>also a student at Washington State. Jana and Fraser had

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<v Speaker 2>been together for a long time and they were starting

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<v Speaker 2>to plan a future together. Fraser had actually asked David

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<v Speaker 2>and Phyllis if he could have Jana's hand in marriage

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<v Speaker 2>after they both graduated.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Her relationship with Fraser was also part of the reason

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<v Speaker 2>she wanted to work in Vancouver. Fraser was living in

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<v Speaker 2>Washington at the time. The state Washington State, not Washington, DC,

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<v Speaker 2>so she would be in the corporate office was close

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<v Speaker 2>and Fraser's living in Washington, so you know, it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of ideal, right. Jana was described as the girl who

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<v Speaker 2>was incredibly ambitious and willing to approach change had on.

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<v Speaker 2>What she didn't know was that her life, unfortunately, was

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<v Speaker 2>about to tragically change and all of her goals and

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<v Speaker 2>dreams would come crashing down.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh boy.

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<v Speaker 2>So on March eleventh, twenty eleven, Jana was working the

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<v Speaker 2>closing shift at the Lululemons store in Bethesda, Maryland with

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<v Speaker 2>her coworker, twenty eight year old Brittany Norwood. Jana was

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<v Speaker 2>a very trusted store employee and was the only person

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<v Speaker 2>working that night who had a key to the store. Seemingly,

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<v Speaker 2>the night ended normally and both women went home safely However,

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<v Speaker 2>the next morning, March twelfth, store manager Rachel arrived at

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<v Speaker 2>eight am to reopen the store for the day, and

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<v Speaker 2>when she arrived, she noticed the front door of the

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<v Speaker 2>store was unlocked, which was very unusual, and Rachel figured, well,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Jana just forgot to lock it the night before.

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<v Speaker 2>So Rachel goes into the store and she notices that

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<v Speaker 2>something's wrong. There was a mannequin that was laying on

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<v Speaker 2>the floor, clothes had been thrown about, and some clothing

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<v Speaker 2>wracks had been tipped over. So Rachel immediately thought the

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<v Speaker 2>store had been robbed, and she quickly exited the building.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, she was planning to run to the nearby

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<v Speaker 2>Apple store. It was right next door to the Lululemon

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<v Speaker 2>in the Strip mall, and that's where she was going

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<v Speaker 2>to call the police from. But that day, Apple was

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<v Speaker 2>releasing the iPad two.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness, and.

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<v Speaker 2>The line was already growing long outside of the store.

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<v Speaker 2>People lined up to her on that new iPad, and

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<v Speaker 2>one of the people in the line noticed Rachel because

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<v Speaker 2>she was frantic, and that person jumped out of line

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<v Speaker 2>to check on her, and after explaining what she had

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<v Speaker 2>seen in the store, the person from the line his

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<v Speaker 2>name was Ryan. He offered to walk her back into

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<v Speaker 2>the store and check things out for her so that

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<v Speaker 2>she would feel comfortable to start her day, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the store.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, the police arrived, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, after all, if it's just a robbery, there's

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<v Speaker 2>nobody it's just merchandise it's being stolen or from the

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<v Speaker 2>cash register, like, there won't be there, shouldn't be anybody

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<v Speaker 2>like a criminal still there.

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully not right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And in fact, if you go to Lululemon, they

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<v Speaker 2>have a policy that if someone comes in and steals,

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<v Speaker 2>they just let the person walk with whatever and they

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<v Speaker 2>report it to the corporation and police only if necessary.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I'm not encouraging anybody to steal anything, but.

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<v Speaker 3>What are we going to Lululemons?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know if they still have this policy,

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<v Speaker 2>but at.

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<v Speaker 3>The time, sure, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Rachel agreed with Ryan, and so the two of them

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<v Speaker 2>headed back into the Lululemon store. The further they went

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<v Speaker 2>into the store, the more damage. Though. They noticed the

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<v Speaker 2>cash register had been opened and emptied, along with the

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<v Speaker 2>safe that was inside the store. At this point, Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>and Rachel they're convinced that this is just a robbery.

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<v Speaker 2>It just has all the telltale signs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Rachel headed to the back room, where she found shattered

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<v Speaker 2>glass and a total disaster of merchandise. But what really

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<v Speaker 2>alarmed her was that she found blood, and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of it. Looking further, there was a trail of blood

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<v Speaker 2>that looked like someone had been dragged across the floor,

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<v Speaker 2>and there were two sets of bloody footprints of different sizes.

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<v Speaker 2>Upon this discovery, Rachel and Ryan literally ran back to

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<v Speaker 2>the front of the store and immediately called the police.

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<v Speaker 2>Rachel didn't feel comfortable going back into the store, but

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan was concerned that maybe someone was there that needed help,

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<v Speaker 2>so he went back inside on his own to investigate further.

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<v Speaker 2>He went over to where the trail of blood was

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<v Speaker 2>and he followed it further to the back of the store,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where he found a battered woman laying face

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<v Speaker 2>down in a pool of blood with a rope tied

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<v Speaker 2>around her neck. He knew right away that this woman

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<v Speaker 2>was dead, of course, he was probably panicked, a little

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<v Speaker 2>flustered whatever, and in shock when he heard a faint

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<v Speaker 2>moaning sound coming from the employee bathroom. After what he

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<v Speaker 2>just saw, Ryan wasn't completely sure he wanted to follow

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<v Speaker 2>the sound, but he did. He braved it, and in

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<v Speaker 2>the bathroom he found Britney bound at the ankles and wrists,

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<v Speaker 2>arms above her head, covered in blood and barely breathing.

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<v Speaker 2>This sent him running again to the sidewalk out front

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<v Speaker 2>to tell Rachel what he found and say she needed

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<v Speaker 2>So, on the phone with nine one one the second time,

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<v Speaker 2>this woman, right, So, Brittany was covered in cuts all

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<v Speaker 2>on her forehead, and there was a Lululemon shirt wrapped

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<v Speaker 2>get this three hundred and thirty one times.

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<v Speaker 4>That is fucking diabolical, Right, that is unnecessary.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you know how long? I mean not that I've

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<v Speaker 3>If that's not this, then it's this is overkilled sick.

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<v Speaker 2>brutal attack. Police found various items around the store that

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<v Speaker 2>were most likely used in the attack. They found a

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<v Speaker 2>bloody hangar, a rock, wrenches, a hammer, a knife, and

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<v Speaker 2>the mannequins, like maybe like in the back of them

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<v Speaker 2>or something. The police believed that these items were used

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<v Speaker 2>to attack the women. With Brittany being alive, she was

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<v Speaker 2>up needing a few stitches, and they did do a

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<v Speaker 2>rape kit at the hospital. Police were grateful that most

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<v Speaker 2>of her wounds were superficial because for Jana, they now

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<v Speaker 2>have this brutal murderer, whoever did this to her on

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<v Speaker 2>the loose, and you know, they need to apprehend this

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<v Speaker 2>person as soon as possible, and maybe Brittany can help

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<v Speaker 2>them identify who did this as soon as she was able.

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<v Speaker 2>Brittany told police what happened that night. She said it

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<v Speaker 2>was like any other closing shift. She had only been

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<v Speaker 2>the store. After the final customer left around nine pm,

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<v Speaker 2>she and Jana locked up the store and they started

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<v Speaker 2>their closing duties. They counted the cash straw, they straightened

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<v Speaker 2>things up, and they got everything ready for the next morning.

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<v Speaker 2>All the women left together and Brittany watched Jana get

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<v Speaker 2>into her car before Brittany walked over to the train station.

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<v Speaker 2>When Brittany got to the train station, she realized she

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<v Speaker 2>be able to get home. Since Jana was the only

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<v Speaker 2>one with the key and Britney's knew she had to

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<v Speaker 2>call the few contacts she had of other coworkers to

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<v Speaker 2>see if they had Jana's number. She called her, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she gets it, and she calls Jana to ask if

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<v Speaker 2>she could meet her back in the store so that

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<v Speaker 2>she could get her metro pass. Being the awesome human

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<v Speaker 2>being that she was, Jane, of course you know that

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<v Speaker 2>she was going to meet her. It'd just be a

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<v Speaker 2>few minutes, and then they met back at the store.

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<v Speaker 2>Brittany recalled that Jana told her she had actually left

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<v Speaker 2>her laptop at the store, so she really didn't mind

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<v Speaker 2>turning around because she was going to grab that instead

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<v Speaker 2>of having the store The next day, when Jaya arrived

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<v Speaker 2>back at the store, Brittany said that she unlocked the

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<v Speaker 2>door and the two women went inside, closing the door

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<v Speaker 2>behind them but not locking it. Brittany told the police

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<v Speaker 2>that while Jana grabbed her laptop right away, she couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>find her metro pass where she thought it was, and

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<v Speaker 2>Jana started to help her search for it. During their search,

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<v Speaker 2>Brittany and Jana were ambushed by two men in black

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<v Speaker 2>ski masks. Brittany recalled that a bigger man grabbed Jana

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<v Speaker 2>and hit her over the head, knocking her to the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>A smaller man grabbed her and dragged her by her

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<v Speaker 2>hair to the employee bathroom and Brittany told police that

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<v Speaker 2>this is the last time she actually saw Jana. The

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<v Speaker 2>smaller man eventually brought her to the registers and the

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<v Speaker 2>safe and forced her to open them and put all

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<v Speaker 2>the cash into a black backpack that he had. Brittany

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<v Speaker 2>was then taken to the back room, where she was

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<v Speaker 2>zip tied and tortured by the smaller man. Brittany recalled

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<v Speaker 2>the man holding her by the hair with a knife

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<v Speaker 2>to her throat, threatening to slit her throat. Brittany told

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<v Speaker 2>the police that the man raped her and was very

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<v Speaker 2>careful to not inflict any wounds that would kill her,

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<v Speaker 2>but have her begging for him to stop, so he

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<v Speaker 2>don't you know, he's probably like slicing her and stuff like.

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<v Speaker 3>That, Oh right.

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<v Speaker 2>Brittany then said when he was done with her, he

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<v Speaker 2>left her alone in the back room for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>and when he came back, Brittany recalled that he sexually

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<v Speaker 2>assaulted her again with a wooden storehannger.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Brittany then told the police that during her attack, she

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<v Speaker 2>heard violent and horrible screams coming from Jana in the

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<v Speaker 2>other room. Eventually, the screams went silent, and both men

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<v Speaker 2>carried Brittany to the other room where Jana was. At

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<v Speaker 2>this point, Brittany wasn't sure if Jana was alive, and

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<v Speaker 2>she told police that the two men told her she

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<v Speaker 2>was lucky that she got the better version of the

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<v Speaker 2>attack because she was more fun to fuck, is what

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<v Speaker 2>she said.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, yeah, it's disgusting pigs.

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<v Speaker 2>Right During her recount of the night to police, Brittany

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<v Speaker 2>was absolutely distraught and she felt like this was all

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<v Speaker 2>her fault because she was the one to call Jana

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<v Speaker 2>and ask her to come back to the store so

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<v Speaker 2>she could get her metro pass. Right after hearing Britney's story,

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<v Speaker 2>the police were immediately getting to work to try and

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<v Speaker 2>gather any information they could about these two masked men.

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<v Speaker 2>Lucky for them, the Apple store that was located just

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<v Speaker 2>next door had CCTV cameras that pointed at the Lululemon storefront.

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<v Speaker 2>Apple was the only store on the strip that had

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<v Speaker 2>cameras pointed there, so they were lucky. H On the

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<v Speaker 2>security footage from Apple, they did find two white men

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<v Speaker 2>who were dressed in all black with beanies on that

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<v Speaker 2>walked past the store around the time Brittany claimed they

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<v Speaker 2>were attacked. Not only did Apple provide the CCTV footage,

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<v Speaker 2>but four employees that were working that night basically heard

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<v Speaker 2>the entire thing at the Apple store.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>The three employees and one secure regard stated that they

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<v Speaker 2>started hearing screaming coming from the store like two women

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<v Speaker 2>were fighting. They heard one woman saying, please talk to me,

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<v Speaker 2>don't do this, talk to me, what's going on. The

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<v Speaker 2>arguing was followed by wails, screaming, and crying until they

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<v Speaker 2>heard a woman say, God, help me, Please help me. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>the Apple employees didn't call the police at night, a

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<v Speaker 2>choice that could have changed Jana's.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even under I was just thinking, how do

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<v Speaker 4>you fucking hear someone begging?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Hi, I'm over here.

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<v Speaker 4>At the Apple store and I'm hearing the next door

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<v Speaker 4>someone's screaming right right, easy, peasy, lemon squeezy.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't tell you how many stories we've done where

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<v Speaker 2>people see something, hear something, and don't call the police.

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<v Speaker 2>And I always think I would call the police, right

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<v Speaker 2>like I think I would.

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<v Speaker 3>I would hope I think I would. When I hear it,

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<v Speaker 3>I for her life.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if I was in the next store next

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<v Speaker 2>to it and I was at the time, fucking I'm

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<v Speaker 2>calling the police right exactly, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>One store employee actually said the screaming was so loud

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<v Speaker 2>it sounded like whoever was screaming was actually in the

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<v Speaker 2>Apple store and not next door.

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<v Speaker 3>And still no call.

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<v Speaker 2>It's still no call. No After all that noise, the

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<v Speaker 2>store employees reported that then they heard some grunting sounds

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<v Speaker 2>and it sounded like something big was being dragged or

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<v Speaker 2>moved across the store. The Apple store manager told police

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<v Speaker 2>that they felt like it was just some drama and

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<v Speaker 2>it was none of their business.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe, I don't know, ye cowards will say something of

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<v Speaker 4>that lane.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I thought they were play acting. I thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was some Shakespeare in the park, my bad.

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<v Speaker 2>At the fucking Lululemon. Yet exactly. Not one of them

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<v Speaker 2>who was working at Apple that night felt like they

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<v Speaker 2>needed to least go check on whoever was there despite

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<v Speaker 2>everything they heard through the walls. Oh, it's just unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>Police were also able to use the store security system

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<v Speaker 2>records to know when the alarm had been armed and disarmed.

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<v Speaker 2>It was armed at nine forty five when the women

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<v Speaker 2>first left the store, and then disarmed at ten five pm,

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<v Speaker 2>assuming that this is when Brittany and Jana returned to

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<v Speaker 2>the store to get the Metro pass and laptop. With

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<v Speaker 2>a timeline coming into place, police were now starting to

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<v Speaker 2>focus on Jana's car. Brittany had recalled it Jana parked

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<v Speaker 2>in front of the store, but the next morning, Jana's

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<v Speaker 2>car was nowhere to be found. Police were now thinking

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<v Speaker 2>that the two masked men must have likely stolen Jana's

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<v Speaker 2>car after the attack. Luckily for police, Jana had Texas

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<v Speaker 2>plates and being in DC, it was most likely going

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<v Speaker 2>to be you know, maybe easy to spotter. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 2>like millions of people, but I don't know. Her car

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<v Speaker 2>had actually been spotted the night of the murder. Around

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<v Speaker 2>mid night, a few blocks from the store, a police

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<v Speaker 2>officer drove past the parked vehicle and said the lights

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<v Speaker 2>were on inside and there was one passenger. Two hours later,

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<v Speaker 2>around two am, that same police officer drove by Jana's

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<v Speaker 2>car again, and this time there was no light on

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<v Speaker 2>and no passenger inside. Jana's car was still parked in

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<v Speaker 2>that same spot, and police were able to take it

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<v Speaker 2>in as evidence. Right while waiting for fingerprints, DNA and

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<v Speaker 2>any other evidence, they could collect from the car. Police

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<v Speaker 2>focused on finding the two men from the Apple CCTV footage.

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<v Speaker 2>Although they did have them on video, the angle wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>that great and even though it showed them, you really

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't be a lot of information from it, right. A

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<v Speaker 2>detective decided that he was going to do a stakeout

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<v Speaker 2>on the storefront, hoping that the two men would return

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<v Speaker 2>to the scene, and they did. Believe wow, When he

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<v Speaker 2>saw two men he thought may have been the attackers,

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<v Speaker 2>he walked up to them, showed them a photo of

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<v Speaker 2>the CCTV footage and ask them if he recognized them.

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<v Speaker 2>Both the men immediately told the detective that the guys

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<v Speaker 2>in the picture were them and that they worked at

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<v Speaker 2>a restaurant a few blocks away from Lululemon. The men

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<v Speaker 2>often walk together because they lived in the same direction.

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<v Speaker 2>They were wearing all black because that was the uniform

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<v Speaker 2>in the restaurant. Okay, so detectives were able to quickly

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<v Speaker 2>verify their alibi. None of the evidence that they had

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<v Speaker 2>was now adding up, and detectives were starting to realize

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe some of the details Britney told them wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>adding up right. What was really getting at them was

426
00:23:38.480 --> 00:23:43.799
<v Speaker 2>that Jana's attack was so much more brutal than Britney's. Yes,

427
00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:46.880
<v Speaker 2>like stabbed three hundred and thirty one times and Britney's

428
00:23:46.920 --> 00:23:47.720
<v Speaker 2>not stabbed once.

429
00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:51.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Brittany has a whole bunch of superficial razor blade

430
00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:55.799
<v Speaker 4>or knife blade cuts that maybe Purel will sting.

431
00:23:55.599 --> 00:23:59.599
<v Speaker 3>The fuck out of. But yeah, you still gets through life. Right.

432
00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:06.480
<v Speaker 2>It was, you know, just unusual how different they were treated. Right,

433
00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:09.720
<v Speaker 2>So let me tell you a little bit about Brittany Norwood. Okay,

434
00:24:10.079 --> 00:24:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Brittany was born and raised in Washington State to a

435
00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:16.680
<v Speaker 2>huge family. She was one of nine children, and her

436
00:24:16.799 --> 00:24:20.799
<v Speaker 2>father ran a small business. The Norwood family didn't have much,

437
00:24:20.839 --> 00:24:24.519
<v Speaker 2>but all of their children had goals and dreams. Brittany

438
00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:27.799
<v Speaker 2>played soccer growing up, and she was being recruited all

439
00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:31.000
<v Speaker 2>across America to play college soccer. She was apparently really

440
00:24:31.039 --> 00:24:35.680
<v Speaker 2>good nice. She ended up signing with Stonybrook College to

441
00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:38.599
<v Speaker 2>play college soccer on a scholarship, and this was her

442
00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:42.359
<v Speaker 2>big break. She was able to move across the country

443
00:24:42.599 --> 00:24:46.400
<v Speaker 2>and follow her dreams. Her college soccer career quickly ended

444
00:24:46.440 --> 00:24:49.720
<v Speaker 2>when she left Stonybrook in two thousand and three after

445
00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:53.799
<v Speaker 2>being accused of stealing from many different people, including teammates

446
00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:54.720
<v Speaker 2>and roommates.

447
00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:56.519
<v Speaker 3>Oh boy. Yeah.

448
00:24:56.559 --> 00:24:59.759
<v Speaker 2>Brittany was even accused of stealing from random people on

449
00:24:59.799 --> 00:25:04.559
<v Speaker 2>CA campus. While charges were never filed, this destroyed her

450
00:25:04.680 --> 00:25:09.039
<v Speaker 2>soccer career and her educational pursuits. She was kicked off

451
00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:12.119
<v Speaker 2>the team, she lost her scholarship, and she was thrown

452
00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:16.359
<v Speaker 2>out of school. Wow, yeah, that's what happens. Fuck around

453
00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:17.759
<v Speaker 2>to find out that's right.

454
00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll keep you in. Don't touch other people's things.

455
00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:23.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, just don't don't steal shit?

456
00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:28.880
<v Speaker 3>Right by that? Sound like a bitch here? Don't touch

457
00:25:28.920 --> 00:25:31.160
<v Speaker 3>other people's shit, right? I mean?

458
00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:35.799
<v Speaker 2>Good God? Any time to do some soul searching. Britney

459
00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:38.839
<v Speaker 2>moved to Washington, d C, where she was able to

460
00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:42.200
<v Speaker 2>be close to two of her sisters. Upon arriving in DC,

461
00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Brittany got a job at the Willard Intercontinental Hotel and

462
00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:50.359
<v Speaker 2>started to rebuild her life. She was successful at this job.

463
00:25:50.640 --> 00:25:54.160
<v Speaker 2>She started at the front desk, but was soon promoted

464
00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:58.799
<v Speaker 2>to VIP guest services. While it was a great job,

465
00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:02.119
<v Speaker 2>she was feeling lost because this wasn't what she pictured

466
00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:05.160
<v Speaker 2>for herself. She was probably also you know, questioning her

467
00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:05.960
<v Speaker 2>life choices.

468
00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:08.440
<v Speaker 3>Sure, sure, Brittany always.

469
00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:11.640
<v Speaker 2>Had a dream of becoming a personal trainer. She was

470
00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:15.000
<v Speaker 2>dedicated to her own physical fitness and the whole world

471
00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:17.720
<v Speaker 2>of fitness in general. In her spare time, she was

472
00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:22.359
<v Speaker 2>attending various workout classes and hoping to be able to

473
00:26:22.359 --> 00:26:24.559
<v Speaker 2>immerse herself in that community, you know, in.

474
00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:26.400
<v Speaker 3>Her news of that culture.

475
00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:30.759
<v Speaker 2>Of that passion was what led Brittany to getting a

476
00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:34.519
<v Speaker 2>job at Lululemon at the Georgetown store in twenty ten.

477
00:26:35.240 --> 00:26:38.720
<v Speaker 2>In early twenty eleven, Brittany transferred to the Bethesda location

478
00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:43.319
<v Speaker 2>of Lululemon, and she was almost a perfect salesperson. She

479
00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:47.119
<v Speaker 2>was fit, outgoing and people were drawn to her. She

480
00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:51.440
<v Speaker 2>really sold the Lululemon brand, you know, looks and all like.

481
00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:54.920
<v Speaker 3>She's a perfect wocking model of it for sure.

482
00:26:55.640 --> 00:26:58.000
<v Speaker 2>At the time of her transfer, it was only supposed

483
00:26:58.039 --> 00:27:02.160
<v Speaker 2>to be temporary. Brittany was to expand her horizons and

484
00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:04.359
<v Speaker 2>wanted to get a new job at a fitness center

485
00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:07.559
<v Speaker 2>near the store. That was all before the night of

486
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:12.480
<v Speaker 2>March eleventh, twenty eleven, when Brittany seemed to have snapped.

487
00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:18.039
<v Speaker 2>With this feeling that Brittany was possibly involved in the murder,

488
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:20.720
<v Speaker 2>police decided that they needed to look at the case

489
00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:23.480
<v Speaker 2>from the start again. The first thing they noticed was

490
00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:27.400
<v Speaker 2>that the supposed attackers didn't bring any of their own weapons.

491
00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:31.039
<v Speaker 2>All the weapons used in the attack were things that

492
00:27:31.079 --> 00:27:33.680
<v Speaker 2>were found in the store. Not only that, but if

493
00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:35.920
<v Speaker 2>they didn't bring any weapons, how did they plan to

494
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:38.839
<v Speaker 2>get into the store. It was clear that the suspected

495
00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:43.599
<v Speaker 2>robbery was supposed to happen after the store was closed. Also,

496
00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:44.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, how are they going to get

497
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:46.119
<v Speaker 2>in if they didn't bring anything?

498
00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Right?

499
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Also, it's typical that after robbers get the job done,

500
00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:54.319
<v Speaker 2>they leave the scene as soon as possible to lessen

501
00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:58.680
<v Speaker 2>the chances of them getting caught. Right. According to Britney's story,

502
00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:01.720
<v Speaker 2>emptying the registers in the safe was one of the

503
00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:05.519
<v Speaker 2>first things they did. But then they started this attack on.

504
00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:08.799
<v Speaker 3>Both Yeah, this timeline is all stinky.

505
00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:12.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so this really wasn't adding up to police, And

506
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:15.599
<v Speaker 2>there was more. The bloody footprints in the store were

507
00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:18.680
<v Speaker 2>a big question mark. There were two different sets of

508
00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:23.240
<v Speaker 2>footprints found at the scene, one men's size fourteen that

509
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:26.640
<v Speaker 2>was actually a rebock, and the other footprint was a

510
00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:30.960
<v Speaker 2>much smaller woman's size. If there were really two attackers,

511
00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:35.079
<v Speaker 2>there would have been three sets of footprints men and

512
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:39.119
<v Speaker 2>then Britney's since she was still alive. At the scene,

513
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:43.799
<v Speaker 2>one men's size fourteen shoe was found, and police assumed

514
00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:46.759
<v Speaker 2>that maybe the attacker ditched it at the store before leaving,

515
00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:50.920
<v Speaker 2>but the store manager, Rachel, debunked this theory immediately by

516
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:53.799
<v Speaker 2>telling police that the shoe was property of the store

517
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:56.079
<v Speaker 2>and they allowed customers to use it when trying on

518
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.920
<v Speaker 2>clothes to complete the look. Okay, yes, they got shoes there,

519
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:00.640
<v Speaker 2>you can try on.

520
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:02.359
<v Speaker 3>That is so crazy.

521
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Nice they have men's clothing at Lululemon.

522
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:08.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if you want to complete the all sall. Yeah,

523
00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:11.839
<v Speaker 4>we got some shoes you wear that you can't have lies. Yeah,

524
00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:14.079
<v Speaker 4>you're gonna need a shoe.

525
00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:17.440
<v Speaker 2>What was even more odd was that it appeared that

526
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:21.160
<v Speaker 2>the bigger bloody shoeprints were exactly on top of the

527
00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:26.319
<v Speaker 2>smaller shoeprints. Either the attackers were quite literally following the

528
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:29.359
<v Speaker 2>exact same path, or these larger prints were meant to

529
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:31.640
<v Speaker 2>try and cover up the smaller ones.

530
00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:33.240
<v Speaker 3>Oh.

531
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Going even further, the gash on Brittany's forehead didn't make sense.

532
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Why would the attacker aim for the middle of her

533
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:42.640
<v Speaker 2>forehead and not the side of her head. What made

534
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:45.240
<v Speaker 2>more sense with that injury is if Brittany was on

535
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:48.440
<v Speaker 2>top of Jana stabbing her, that she could have accidentally

536
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:53.799
<v Speaker 2>hit herself in the forehead right. Additionally, Britney told police

537
00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:56.279
<v Speaker 2>that the zip ties that were used to tire up

538
00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:59.240
<v Speaker 2>came from one of the men's backpacks when they actually

539
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:02.920
<v Speaker 2>belonged the store. Like that, She said the robbers brought

540
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:03.920
<v Speaker 2>the ball.

541
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:07.799
<v Speaker 3>From their own supplies that did not exist. Yes.

542
00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Furthermore, the zip ties on her hands had teeth marks,

543
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:14.880
<v Speaker 2>indicating they were tightened up by teeth and not hands,

544
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.359
<v Speaker 2>which is something Brittany would have to do if she

545
00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:22.519
<v Speaker 2>was tying herself up. Yes, the biggest discrepancy was simply

546
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:26.400
<v Speaker 2>the difference between the two attacks. All of Britney's injuries

547
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:30.440
<v Speaker 2>were superficial, and her rate kit revealed nothing. Brittany told

548
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.160
<v Speaker 2>police that the attackers had told her they knew her

549
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:37.200
<v Speaker 2>address and they were using Rachel slurs against her. Brittany

550
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:40.000
<v Speaker 2>painted the picture that she was potentially the original target,

551
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:43.359
<v Speaker 2>but it was clear the attack on Jana was personal

552
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:47.279
<v Speaker 2>like USA. This led police to believe that maybe Brittany

553
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:50.319
<v Speaker 2>was involved with the attackers and it was a robbery.

554
00:30:50.359 --> 00:30:54.720
<v Speaker 2>Gone wrong. It wasn't until later in the investigation that Rachel,

555
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:57.799
<v Speaker 2>the store manager, told police that they were actually having

556
00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:01.519
<v Speaker 2>problems with Brittany in the workplace. It seemed that she

557
00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:05.039
<v Speaker 2>and Jana didn't really get along, and not only Jana,

558
00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:09.480
<v Speaker 2>but other employees had problems with right well, they were

559
00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:14.799
<v Speaker 2>suspicious that Brittany was stealing from the store and other coworkers.

560
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:18.880
<v Speaker 2>These suspicions went so far as there was actually a

561
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.000
<v Speaker 2>meeting held with store owners and managers to come up

562
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:25.400
<v Speaker 2>with a plan to attempt to prevent this. The protocol

563
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:28.119
<v Speaker 2>at the store was that whenever an employee brought a

564
00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:31.000
<v Speaker 2>bag to work and was leaving after their shift, the

565
00:31:31.079 --> 00:31:33.160
<v Speaker 2>manager at the store at the time would check their

566
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:35.839
<v Speaker 2>bag to make sure that no one paid items were

567
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:36.880
<v Speaker 2>in their bag.

568
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:37.839
<v Speaker 3>Right.

569
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:41.279
<v Speaker 2>So this was not only for Brittany, but it was just,

570
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:43.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, regular protocol for all employees.

571
00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:47.000
<v Speaker 4>So it wasn't well common practice. I remember working at

572
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:50.559
<v Speaker 4>some shop, same thing. If you're working with makeup, little things,

573
00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:54.240
<v Speaker 4>big things, things that can be hidden, you know, right,

574
00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:58.839
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, plushy legans that can easily roll up

575
00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:01.960
<v Speaker 4>and hide in up part of your purse.

576
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Right, right, Yeah, they're not bulky at.

577
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:06.400
<v Speaker 3>All, Oh gosh, not at all.

578
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:10.440
<v Speaker 2>The day before the murder March tenth, twenty eleven, Jana

579
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:13.440
<v Speaker 2>went to do a routine bag check on Brittany before

580
00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:16.599
<v Speaker 2>she left, and Brittany told Jana that another employee had

581
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:20.559
<v Speaker 2>already checked her bag. When Jana double checked with that employee,

582
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:23.799
<v Speaker 2>they said that they didn't actually check her bag. So

583
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:26.839
<v Speaker 2>Jana reported this to Rachel that you know, she was

584
00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:31.039
<v Speaker 2>pretty sure Britney stole another pair of leggings, and now

585
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:32.160
<v Speaker 2>police are like, is this.

586
00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:34.079
<v Speaker 3>Her motive against Jana.

587
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:38.480
<v Speaker 2>By March eighteenth, twenty eleven, Brittany was arrested for the murder.

588
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:42.519
<v Speaker 2>When police brought her in for interrogation, Brittany added more

589
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:45.480
<v Speaker 2>details to her story and it just was not adding

590
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:48.640
<v Speaker 2>up even more, police decided to take a more personal

591
00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:52.400
<v Speaker 2>route and bring in Brittany's brother, Chris and sister Marissa.

592
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:56.119
<v Speaker 2>When the siblings were all inside the interrogation room, police

593
00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:58.839
<v Speaker 2>ran through all the evidence they had against Brittany, and

594
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Marissa completely broke down, having to leave the room to

595
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:05.680
<v Speaker 2>attempt to calm herself. Yeah, police left Brittany alone in

596
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:08.240
<v Speaker 2>the room with her brother Chris, and Chris asked Brittany

597
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:10.200
<v Speaker 2>to tell him the truth so that they could get

598
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:12.759
<v Speaker 2>this worked out, to which Brittany replied she didn't want

599
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:15.480
<v Speaker 2>to talk about it there, So this personal approach.

600
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Had worked nice.

601
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:20.160
<v Speaker 2>It was now believed that Brittany became aware that her

602
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:23.880
<v Speaker 2>coworkers were onto her stealing, and she knew that she

603
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:26.400
<v Speaker 2>was going to be fired soon if she was caught again.

604
00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Brittany was likely called Jana to meet her back of

605
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:33.240
<v Speaker 2>the store so that they could discuss the accusations Jana

606
00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:36.680
<v Speaker 2>told Rachel. But once the conversation wasn't reaching a resolution,

607
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:39.799
<v Speaker 2>it turned violent because remember those Apple employees that there

608
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:41.160
<v Speaker 2>was women like arguing.

609
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:43.559
<v Speaker 3>We sounded like two women screaming at each other.

610
00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, So, Brittany's defense attorney claimed that this was absolutely

611
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:53.039
<v Speaker 2>not a premeditated murder, but an undiagnosed mental disorder. He

612
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:55.640
<v Speaker 2>claimed that it was clear that no one in their

613
00:33:55.799 --> 00:34:00.480
<v Speaker 2>sound mind could commit the atrocities that Brittany did that night. Okay,

614
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:02.039
<v Speaker 2>but they were committed.

615
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:03.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly.

616
00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:06.200
<v Speaker 4>It committed so much that she was able to make

617
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:09.039
<v Speaker 4>herself look like she was a victim. That sounds like

618
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:14.639
<v Speaker 4>a very clever and planned and and survivalistic mode of

619
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:19.199
<v Speaker 4>horrible lying and there there it is there. I don't

620
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:23.039
<v Speaker 4>get like how three hundred and thirty one stab wounds

621
00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:27.119
<v Speaker 4>that sound like mental illness? Okay, yeah for sure, especially

622
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:30.719
<v Speaker 4>because they're not like lovers or something that would that

623
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:35.519
<v Speaker 4>crime of passion that is you know in such cases.

624
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:39.599
<v Speaker 4>But this is just straight up rage and hey, this

625
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:42.239
<v Speaker 4>is we all know it's from her childhood.

626
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, everything stems from your child.

627
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:50.880
<v Speaker 4>Everything stems is her stealing and what she was one

628
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:54.119
<v Speaker 4>of nine and nine. I don't have our stories of

629
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:56.360
<v Speaker 4>why we do what we do or why we think

630
00:34:56.360 --> 00:34:59.920
<v Speaker 4>we're justified by circumstance.

631
00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:04.800
<v Speaker 2>But exactly right, like yew. The trial lasted six days,

632
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:07.400
<v Speaker 2>and then Brittany was quickly sentenced to life in prison

633
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:11.880
<v Speaker 2>without the possibility of parole on January twenty seventh, twenty twelve.

634
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:16.119
<v Speaker 2>Brittany has never talked about what exactly happened that night

635
00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:21.039
<v Speaker 2>between she and Jana right This trial and the entire

636
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:25.960
<v Speaker 2>situation was extremely difficult for Jana's family, the Murrays. This

637
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<v Speaker 2>was especially because they originally felt horrible for Brittany, thinking

638
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<v Speaker 2>that she too was a victim of this violent attack.

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<v Speaker 2>After sentencing, Brittany gave a public apology to the Murray

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<v Speaker 2>family in front of a packed courtroom. Brittany stated that

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<v Speaker 2>prior to getting up there, she was unsure if she

642
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<v Speaker 2>would even speak. Brittany told the courtroom and Jana's family

643
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<v Speaker 2>that while she knows her statement will never take the

644
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<v Speaker 2>pain away, she hopes that the family can one day

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<v Speaker 2>find it in their hearts to forgive her. Brittany and

646
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<v Speaker 2>her legal team were hoping that the judge would sentence

647
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<v Speaker 2>her to life with the possibility of parole to give

648
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<v Speaker 2>her some hope. But noop, no, no, Yeah. Judge Robert A.

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<v Speaker 2>Greenberg said that after every single one of the three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirty one plus wounds she inflicted on Jana,

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<v Speaker 2>she had an opportunity to think twice about what she

652
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<v Speaker 2>was doing and stop, but she didn't. So. Judge Greenberg

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<v Speaker 2>told Brittany that she was devious, in control in one

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<v Speaker 2>hell of a liar.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree, I agree, all three devious, one hell of

656
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<v Speaker 4>a liar. Hmmm, I don't even really think. I don't

657
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<v Speaker 4>believe she wants forgiveness. She just wants to be known

658
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:46.320
<v Speaker 4>that she said it. Yeah, that's what I don't Yeah,

659
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:49.760
<v Speaker 4>I don't really feel any kind of empathy or because

660
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:52.880
<v Speaker 4>if she's stealing and she doesn't care, and so she

661
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:58.880
<v Speaker 4>loses jobs, loses her scholarship, loses her athleticism, scholarship, everything,

662
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<v Speaker 4>and so uh leper doesn't change its spots without a

663
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:08.880
<v Speaker 4>humongous miracle. And not that I don't believe in miracles,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's really about the intent of the heart, you know,

665
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:15.960
<v Speaker 4>and I think her intent was very narcissistic.

666
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:19.719
<v Speaker 2>She suffered these consequences of you know, stealing shit from

667
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:22.800
<v Speaker 2>people at school, you know, like you said, lost your scholarship,

668
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:25.239
<v Speaker 2>lost her chance to finish her degree, be on the

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00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:28.079
<v Speaker 2>soccer team, do all this, and then she gets this

670
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:31.840
<v Speaker 2>job at Lululemon and she's doing the fucking same shit again.

671
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<v Speaker 4>And then she's, yeah, so jealous of Jana because she

672
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:41.000
<v Speaker 4>is everything. She is knocking everything that is lands in

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<v Speaker 4>her hands out of the park.

674
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Like she is going to school and like her life

675
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:49.480
<v Speaker 2>is on the right track. And yes, the manager.

676
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.679
<v Speaker 3>There her she's Lululemon.

677
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:55.039
<v Speaker 4>But you got someone like Brittany who's like me, me, me,

678
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:57.880
<v Speaker 4>It's got to be about me. I'm gonna I mean,

679
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:00.000
<v Speaker 4>how do you not get along with someone like Jane?

680
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.480
<v Speaker 4>That Jane sounds like some of the one that would

681
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:05.480
<v Speaker 4>be easy to get along with and inspiring.

682
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:08.360
<v Speaker 3>To be like Carrie, does she you hear what she

683
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:09.119
<v Speaker 3>gets done?

684
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And don't tell me you didn't fucking plan it either.

685
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:15.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't for one second. Because she had the whole

686
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:18.360
<v Speaker 2>fucking ruse about the metro pass. She could have attacked

687
00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Jana when they locked the door initially.

688
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:24.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh exactly.

689
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:27.800
<v Speaker 2>And and you know instead of like making this story

690
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<v Speaker 2>about you know, having to go back and oh can

691
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:33.280
<v Speaker 2>you let me back in the store, and you know

692
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<v Speaker 2>all of this. So I'm thinking, like it had to

693
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<v Speaker 2>be planned. What I just dying to know, like what

694
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:40.840
<v Speaker 2>she stabber with? What was there? But I mean, because

695
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:44.800
<v Speaker 2>I think weird shit. But yeah, if you're using all

696
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:47.440
<v Speaker 2>the ship in the store and it's at a point

697
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<v Speaker 2>where you know you can attack Jana and Jena can't

698
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:53.599
<v Speaker 2>run away, I think you've probably like looked at the

699
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:56.400
<v Speaker 2>ship in the store maybe briefly, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh you know where to find stuff, right, you know?

701
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<v Speaker 4>And fuck those Apple I mean, God bless them, but

702
00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:04.159
<v Speaker 4>those Apple employees.

703
00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:06.159
<v Speaker 3>I listen in to that shit.

704
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:09.000
<v Speaker 4>I have heard stuff and I know when I mean

705
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:12.079
<v Speaker 4>nothing to where I've needed to call the police.

706
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:16.000
<v Speaker 3>But I am an X nine one one operator, so.

707
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<v Speaker 4>I kind of know I got a little edge, and

708
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<v Speaker 4>as a human being, the edge of I think someone's

709
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:26.400
<v Speaker 4>gonna get hurt, right, the screaming is of at least

710
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<v Speaker 4>get Like the screaming would have me something like that

711
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<v Speaker 4>might happen.

712
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and somebody, I mean if God know, please know,

713
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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

714
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, God no, please no? And then dead silent.

715
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<v Speaker 2>That would make me super suspicious, like maybe them fighting,

716
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:46.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, the screaming like maybe that wouldn't necessarily like

717
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:47.639
<v Speaker 2>like you said, like I don't know if I would

718
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:50.800
<v Speaker 2>feel like they were in danger, like yeah, but then

719
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:54.039
<v Speaker 2>when the screaming turned to somebody sounding like they're begging

720
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:58.079
<v Speaker 2>for their life, yeah, or begging for something to stop,

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00:39:58.400 --> 00:39:59.880
<v Speaker 2>that would really give me pause.

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<v Speaker 4>I would just be like, yeah, you know, just do

723
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:05.840
<v Speaker 4>even a window check, like just come out and take

724
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:08.039
<v Speaker 4>a look, because something is fucking amiss.

725
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:10.599
<v Speaker 3>And you know they were all scared to leave, oh

726
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:11.599
<v Speaker 3>yeah for sure?

727
00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Or not on the wall, Hey is everybody okay in there?

728
00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:17.280
<v Speaker 3>If you would have scared the ship out of Brittany.

729
00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:21.480
<v Speaker 4>Right, I would have been like, hey, guys, I think

730
00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:23.679
<v Speaker 4>all the blood would have drained out of my body.

731
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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I would just when not bring you to ye

732
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<v Speaker 3>out of your mental but I'm.

733
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<v Speaker 4>Oh, yeah, God bless Janea and our family, Brittany and hers.

734
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, her life is gone. Her family sounds very

735
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<v Speaker 4>supportive as a big family.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I know everyone these stories, it's not just the victims,

737
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:49.840
<v Speaker 2>like it's just no lateral damage of their families and exactly.

738
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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think about we did that story about

739
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:55.679
<v Speaker 2>Jacob Wetterling a few weeks ago. Yeah, I think about

740
00:40:55.719 --> 00:40:59.800
<v Speaker 2>like his parents actually stayed together and they even though

741
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:02.199
<v Speaker 2>I think they probably had a time where their marriage

742
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:06.199
<v Speaker 2>hit like a rough patch. I can only imagine the

743
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:08.119
<v Speaker 2>pain and suffering that they went through. And let alone

744
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:11.719
<v Speaker 2>every other family who's had you know, somebody, it can

745
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:15.840
<v Speaker 2>be generational damage. Yes, I just think about some of them.

746
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:18.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, some of these people had children, have children,

747
00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:21.079
<v Speaker 2>and then their children grow up without a parent or

748
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.920
<v Speaker 2>maybe like mom kills dad or dad kills mom, and

749
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:26.280
<v Speaker 2>so now you have no parents and it's just.

750
00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:29.239
<v Speaker 4>It's and then you're known as the you know, oh

751
00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:32.679
<v Speaker 4>my mom killed my dad or my vice versa that.

752
00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:35.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I know.

753
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Dad, it's just sad that, you.

754
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:43.199
<v Speaker 4>Know, just so how do you get out from under there.

755
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:48.280
<v Speaker 3>But then that's like the riddle of life, you know, exactly.

756
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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you Shannon for the Oh.

757
00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:53.599
<v Speaker 3>Thank you for bringing this story. I'd never heard of it.

758
00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:56.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this was a brutal one, like Jana really went

759
00:41:56.639 --> 00:41:58.559
<v Speaker 2>through it. I feel bad. I feel really too.

760
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:01.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and probably even see how do you think in

761
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:04.519
<v Speaker 4>that culture of Lululemon, you do not see that kind

762
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:05.519
<v Speaker 4>of behavior coming?

763
00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:10.639
<v Speaker 2>No, sure, you like to just remind everyone to hit subscribe,

764
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:14.400
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00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:17.400
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766
00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:21.239
<v Speaker 2>all are interested in hearing more episodes from Shannon and

767
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:23.039
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769
00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:30.400
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771
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00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:40.079
<v Speaker 2>It's just one tier, so you do get all the

773
00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:43.280
<v Speaker 2>episodes on Apple. Yes, and we have a website, Crimes

774
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:46.840
<v Speaker 2>and Consequences dot com. We have some merch and Shannon's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be helping to get that caught up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm on it.

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00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:54.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're on it, so bless your little heart. I

778
00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:57.760
<v Speaker 2>would just like thank everyone again, and everyone seems very

779
00:42:57.760 --> 00:42:59.159
<v Speaker 2>welcoming to Shannon.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, guys, I love you and I love just spending

781
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:05.440
<v Speaker 4>time with you, and I love spending time with Tanya.

782
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:08.440
<v Speaker 4>So you guys always give me an opportunity to do both.

783
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:10.360
<v Speaker 3>You fucking love it.

784
00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:12.760
<v Speaker 2>I know we get to catch up before I do.

785
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:15.920
<v Speaker 4>I love it and bring Taro to the table, and

786
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:18.599
<v Speaker 4>some I just love knowing, like the little bits of

787
00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:19.079
<v Speaker 4>the story.

788
00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:26.000
<v Speaker 3>What was his sign? Yikes a libra whoa. We love

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00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:28.000
<v Speaker 3>you libras so right.

790
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:32.039
<v Speaker 4>But until next time, Tany, you take care and I

791
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:33.320
<v Speaker 4>love you and you too.

792
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:34.400
<v Speaker 3>You too.

793
00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:35.559
<v Speaker 2>I'll see you next time.

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00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:44.360
<v Speaker 3>Bye, I'll see you. Bye.