WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:07.000 From Workhouse Connect and aj Benza fame Uh, he'd liked 2 00:00:07.000 --> 00:00:09.320 to be walked on a leash and play really dirty 3 00:00:09.439 --> 00:00:12.679 kinky sex games. Is uh the guy put the cock 4 00:00:12.960 --> 00:00:17.719 in the peacock network. Okay, bitch, Hey, everybody aj Benzi 5 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:18.480 here with fame? 6 00:00:18.600 --> 00:00:18.719 Is it? 7 00:00:18.800 --> 00:00:22.280 Bitch? This is your daily Unfiltered podcast for December fourth, 8 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:25.600 twenty twenty four to one two oh four two oh 9 00:00:25.679 --> 00:00:31.160 two four pretty good love fours as you know. Well, 10 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:34.159 I'll tell you what I just finished another episode of 11 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:40.439 Relationships Is a Bitch with Irena and Michael Lagovino telling 12 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:45.000 you this show is uh is gaining speed, if that's 13 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:48.399 even the right term to use for a podcast. We're 14 00:00:48.479 --> 00:00:52.079 touching on some good topics. I don't want you folks 15 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:54.799 to think it's always about well can I give a 16 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:58.200 boyfriend or girlfriend? What is my husband? It's not about 17 00:00:58.399 --> 00:01:04.000 matching up like you think. This numerology and astrology, the 18 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:07.359 aspect of numerology and astrology and what Irena knows about 19 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:10.239 these two sciences. If I could say that, it's pretty 20 00:01:10.239 --> 00:01:14.079 astounding and it's really making a lot of sense to me, 21 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:17.200 and I initially thought the same thing, Well, a show 22 00:01:17.239 --> 00:01:20.319 about relationships, I do I have to talk about mine? 23 00:01:20.840 --> 00:01:24.159 Where are we going with this? It's not really about relationships. 24 00:01:24.200 --> 00:01:27.640 I mean it is, but it's a much broader term 25 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:30.519 than what we're thinking about with that word. So I 26 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:33.120 urge you to check it out. It's every we do 27 00:01:33.159 --> 00:01:37.359 it every Tuesday. It uploads Tuesday night or Wednesday morning. 28 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:41.799 Check it out. You'll learn a lot about yourselves. Speaking 29 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:46.719 of learning things, today I decided to listen to a 30 00:01:46.760 --> 00:01:50.680 new podcast. I didn't know that Stephen Baldwin has a 31 00:01:50.719 --> 00:01:54.719 podcast called One Bad Movie. It's a great idea. He 32 00:01:54.799 --> 00:01:58.480 has actors come on and talk about the one bad 33 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:00.280 movie they made, and they have a lot of fun 34 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:03.519 in the process of doing that. They're bringing up stories 35 00:02:03.560 --> 00:02:07.120 on the set and rivalries and arguments and all these 36 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:09.479 sorts of things you don't know happened in the midst 37 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:12.520 of making a movie. I think it's great. I mean, 38 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:16.639 Stephen Baldwin is a good actor. Yeah, he's been maligned 39 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:19.360 for a lot of things, not only being one of 40 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:22.599 the Baldwin brothers, but of course he made some clunkers 41 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:27.319 early on, like whatever was Biodome with Paulie Shore whatever. 42 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:29.960 The guy's been in some good films and I don't 43 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:34.759 have to tell you anything about The Usual Suspects. It's 44 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:37.479 one of the best films in the last fifty years. 45 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:40.639 And he's phenomenal in that. And he has a great 46 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:43.759 knowledge of Hollywood, being that him and his three brothers 47 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:47.520 were all over it and still are. But Michael Madsen 48 00:02:47.719 --> 00:02:51.080 was one of his guests. I love Michael Manson. I 49 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:53.280 have a little bit of a history with him. I 50 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:56.960 remember when Rosalie and Jack came. I put them up 51 00:02:56.960 --> 00:03:01.080 at the Beverly Hills Hotel and I went and see them. 52 00:03:01.159 --> 00:03:03.599 We sat by the pool and I'm like, this is it. 53 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:07.080 This is Hollywood, this is nineteen ninety seven. And I'm like, yeah, 54 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:09.159 you know, this is where it all happens. And you 55 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:12.159 see actors coming and going. This is back in the 56 00:03:12.240 --> 00:03:16.439 day where none of us really knew about actors or 57 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:22.719 celebrities politics. We just liked seeing them. And there's Michael 58 00:03:22.759 --> 00:03:26.960 Manson in the summertime in a thin black leather jacket 59 00:03:27.039 --> 00:03:31.159 and jeans with beautiful ray band, black sung lesses. Onie's 60 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:34.319 sitting at the pool meeting a producer and has a 61 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:36.639 script in his hand, and I'm like, this is it. 62 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:41.199 This is Hollywood. Madson's at the Beverlyos Hotel pool with 63 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:43.960 a glass of fresh teaze, orange shoes and a script 64 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:46.840 and there's a producer. This is a deal going down 65 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:49.240 in front of us hanging out. It sounds ridiculous and 66 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:51.759 trite and who cares. But now, back then, I was 67 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:54.360 such a fan of the way Hollywood work, and I 68 00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:58.120 love seeing guys like Manson out and about I love 69 00:03:58.199 --> 00:04:02.400 his acting. I got to know more about Michael because 70 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:08.439 years ago, god must have been ninety nine, maybe me 71 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:11.080 and a buddy are at this little bar in town 72 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:13.759 that we decided we can make the guy more money 73 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:16.800 by inviting friends to the bar. And you know, we 74 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:19.759 got We got the the door, the door money, he 75 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:22.439 got the bar money. So we had a little little 76 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:26.120 urn going on there, right, And this girl walks in, 77 00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:30.560 attractive woman, and she's at the bar and we're milling 78 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:34.079 around and the night goes on. She's getting louder. You 79 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:37.000 can tell she's tipsy, and I'm like, all right, you 80 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:41.439 know it happens at the bar, fight side up next door. 81 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:43.639 We start to talk blah blah blah, and I'm in 82 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:47.560 my drug phase back then, and I could tell she 83 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:50.519 was on something, so I'm like, uh, you know, I 84 00:04:50.600 --> 00:04:53.160 got pain pills in my pocket, I got muscle relaxes, 85 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:55.439 this cocaine. I mean, I just was a bad time 86 00:04:55.519 --> 00:04:59.959 for me, and she didn't have anything. But she made 87 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:02.560 the reference that, well, I don't care if you do it. 88 00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:04.480 Maybe we should go back to my place. I said, 89 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:06.439 you're in no condition to drive. I could tell, and 90 00:05:07.079 --> 00:05:09.680 you know, I said, why don't we. My buddy will 91 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:11.879 take your car. You'll ride with me and we'll you know, 92 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:13.759 you tell us how to get to your house. Okay, 93 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:16.399 that's very nice for you. So she's in my car, 94 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:20.040 we drive. My buddy's in front of me. Oh, she's 95 00:05:20.079 --> 00:05:22.000 behind us, and I'm driving to her home up in 96 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:25.040 the Hollywood Hill's a beautiful, big house, and go ahead. 97 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:26.920 There's a big pool in the backyard. And I don't 98 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:28.920 have any shorts on me, but she goes, you guys 99 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:32.040 can swim. We're in our underwear. I was in nothing. 100 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:34.680 I was free balling back then. So I'm like, God, 101 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:36.279 I'm gonna go to the pool. Me and my buddy 102 00:05:36.279 --> 00:05:38.120 were in the pool. I'm naked, he's not. She's up 103 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:40.240 in a room. We'll do whatever she's doing. I go 104 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:43.639 up in the bedroom, and you know me back then, 105 00:05:43.879 --> 00:05:47.160 I'm checking people's medicine cabinets left and right. And I'm 106 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:50.120 not the only one. I mean, Carrie Fisher tells stories 107 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:53.319 of doing that for years. So many actors and actresses 108 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:59.560 did that, not Dana Delaney. Julian Julian Margolis has copped 109 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:01.360 to doing that when she was in her bad face. 110 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:06.519 I've heard nightmare stories. In fact, I when I had 111 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:09.959 in my house, I had a small bathroom downstairs with 112 00:06:10.040 --> 00:06:13.120 a medicine cabinet, and I put a bunch of marbles, 113 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:18.759 fifteen twenty marbles in the bottom shelf. I never opened 114 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:21.040 that medicine cabinet because there was really nothing in it, 115 00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:23.800 but I wanted to see who would open it. And 116 00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:25.920 it was very embarrassing. One time, her friend was at 117 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:28.160 a party at my house and went to the bathroom 118 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:31.160 and opened the medicine cabinet, which she don't need to 119 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:34.079 do in someone's house, and I hear all the marbles 120 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:37.639 filling on the sink. It makes an unmistakable sound, and 121 00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:40.439 you know it's embarrassing. But oh, I was just looking 122 00:06:40.519 --> 00:06:42.759 for a toothpick. Whatever the fuck they say. It's all live. 123 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:45.120 Everybody's looking for a description pill bottles. I get it. 124 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:48.839 So I go to this woman's house and I look 125 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:53.000 into a medicine cabinet and I see bottles of medicine 126 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:57.759 with the name Michael Madson on it. What I said, 127 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:01.920 are you married? No, I was some divorce from who 128 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:05.560 Michael Madson. Like, Oh my god, I said, I love 129 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:10.920 Michael Madson. So now I'm with Michael Madsen's ex wife 130 00:07:10.959 --> 00:07:13.879 and my buddy's in the pool and her and I 131 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:16.319 ended up having some fun a few weeks later for 132 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:21.920 a couple of nights. But Michael heard about that, and 133 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:25.720 I approached him at a party one night and I said, look, man, 134 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:28.160 you know, I know you heard that. I'm I see 135 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:31.199 your ex here and there, but don't think anything. I'm 136 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:33.279 not treating her badly. She's a nice woman and we 137 00:07:33.319 --> 00:07:36.240 have fun. Blah blah blah. I don't care. Man, It's okay, 138 00:07:36.279 --> 00:07:38.319 A jay. I know you know, I know you're not 139 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:40.920 that kind of guy. Typical Madson to kind of talk, 140 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:45.319 and I love listening to him talk. You're gonna bark 141 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:48.680 all day, little doggy, You're gonna bite that reservoir dog 142 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:51.759 scene was amazing where he cuts off the cops ear 143 00:07:52.360 --> 00:07:55.319 dancing too, stuck in the middle with you. That scene 144 00:07:55.480 --> 00:07:58.879 they want to cut from the movie, and Tarantino told 145 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:02.399 producers wantin said, we keep that of the movie. You're 146 00:08:02.439 --> 00:08:04.680 losing every female. They get a storm out of the 147 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:07.279 theater and Tarantina was like, I'm not cutting it out. 148 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:10.519 It's not I'll walk away from this deal. That's staying 149 00:08:10.560 --> 00:08:14.439 in the movie. Harvey wimsthem is wrong. It's a fantastic 150 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:16.560 scene and it made that movie so much better than 151 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:20.680 what people assumed it would be. But Madson was always 152 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:22.399 a cool guy with me. So I'm listening to his 153 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:24.639 show and I know, I know because of his ex. 154 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:27.959 We were in contact. We talk here and there. Like 155 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:32.480 when Steve being the big billionaire democrat donor and Hollywood producer, 156 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:35.120 committed suicide. I was on the phone with her because 157 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:36.799 she was close to him, so she gave me some 158 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:43.519 information about his death. And when was I going with this? Oh? So, 159 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:46.639 you know, I just love when Michael Manson has stories 160 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:49.960 and his ex would tell me certain things and it 161 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:52.639 was said, you know, I learned that his drinking was 162 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:58.000 so out of control and just was wrecking his life 163 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:01.559 and no matter what girl he was with, or his 164 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:04.960 new wife or whatever. He would always call his first 165 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:09.320 ex wife and you know, ask her for help, what 166 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:11.399 do I do I need help? Can I sleep over 167 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:14.279 on the couch? And she would take him in, even 168 00:09:14.320 --> 00:09:16.440 though she had a boyfriend at time. It just was like, 169 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:19.360 this is Mike always going for some shit. It's just 170 00:09:19.679 --> 00:09:22.879 strictly Hollywood stuff. This doesn't happen in Tennessee or West 171 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:27.200 Virginia and happened in Hollywood. So I'm listening to Michael 172 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:31.039 Manson on Stephen Bodwin Show, and you know, he's telling 173 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:34.840 some great stories about all the great actors of that generation. 174 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:39.679 And you know, I'm listening going like Mattson is such 175 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:42.519 a different ilk. If you look at the actors now, 176 00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:44.879 the Timothy Scharlimetz. 177 00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:49.080 And all the Tom holland all these like Fay kind 178 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:52.639 of like they're nothing. They have thirteen in Charms and 179 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:58.399 they play superheroes and killers in the in the Marvel universe, 180 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:00.440 and it's just non sense. 181 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:04.360 And you know, like, where are the Robert Mitchums and 182 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:07.559 the Lee Marvins who Michael Manson was saying, those are 183 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:09.960 the guys he looked up to when he was younger. 184 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:14.120 Where are the George Caepards, the Robert Blake's, Mickey Rourke's, 185 00:10:14.320 --> 00:10:20.720 Eric Roberts, George Kennedy, Dennis Hopper, they're not around. Yeah, 186 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:24.080 it's not all George Clooney and Brad Pitt. You need 187 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:28.600 those character actors who really spice up a film. That's 188 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:32.879 what Michael Manson was and to me still is. But 189 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:37.559 you can hear his voice. Man, the drinking and the smoking. 190 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:43.279 He sounds so bad that that great movie star voice 191 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:47.519 is now so such a It's like he's gargling with gravel. 192 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:51.120 It's just bad. I feel bad for the guy because 193 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:55.080 he really has had a problem with alcohol and smoking. 194 00:10:55.120 --> 00:10:57.559 And you know he lost his son to suicide not 195 00:10:57.720 --> 00:11:00.159 too long ago, and he tells some great stuf or 196 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:04.240 is he he made Donnie Brasco or Johnny Depp And 197 00:11:04.279 --> 00:11:06.519 you would think like, oh, these guys must have had 198 00:11:06.559 --> 00:11:09.080 a ball on the set. I loved that movie and 199 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:14.159 I loved what Michael Madson brought to that role. But 200 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:16.679 he told Stephen Baldwin, no, I don't think Johnny was 201 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:20.240 up to that task. And seems like what because none 202 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:23.360 the material was above him. He just it didn't look real. 203 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:25.480 It didn't look like he would be a guy that 204 00:11:25.519 --> 00:11:29.120 could infiltrate the mob and just play an opposite Paccino 205 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:36.279 as Lefty Ragario. He's like, thank god Pacino down played 206 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:39.360 his performance because if he did a real Pacino, he 207 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:44.879 would overpower Johnny Depp. And Baldwin is going no, and 208 00:11:44.919 --> 00:11:47.159 I'm listening and going come on, man, Johnny Depp was 209 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:50.080 great in that role. Not according to Mats and then 210 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:54.600 he says we didn't get a law. Oh what happened? Well, 211 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:58.399 these guys were playing real life mafiosa's who did some 212 00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:01.120 bad stuff back in the day, and some of the 213 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:04.639 remaining mafiosa heard about this movie. In fact, I wrote 214 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:07.399 about this in my column when Donny Brasco came out. 215 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:11.120 I mentioned that the director better get things right because 216 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:13.879 the people he's portraying in this movie, some of them 217 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:16.240 are still around and they're not going to be happy 218 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:19.200 if they're portrayed as punks or pussies. He better get 219 00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:23.440 it right. I thought he did. But there was a 220 00:12:23.480 --> 00:12:27.159 point where some mafiosa. It was a party one night 221 00:12:27.559 --> 00:12:32.320 at the I forget where, but some mafiosa approached Madson 222 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:36.559 and said, look, man, you're playing my friend. You're playing 223 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:39.000 my brother. You're this, you're that. You better get it right, 224 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:41.480 you better get you know, Johnny Depp is playing a 225 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:44.960 rat man. He rat it, you know. We this kid 226 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:47.360 needs to learn a lesson, And Michael's like, what do 227 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:49.200 you mean? I'm not what am I going to do? 228 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:56.159 So these crazy mafiosa guys come up with this rubber rat, 229 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:00.360 a very a rat that was rubber but look so 230 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:04.440 real because of that a little It was battery operated. 231 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:07.559 It was rubber, it was big, and when you said 232 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:10.200 it in the room and press the battery with a button, 233 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:13.360 it would move like a real rat. So at one 234 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:16.840 point of the night wherever they were hanging out, the 235 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:20.080 mafia guys put this rubber rat in a room that's empty, 236 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:22.840 and Michael is talking to Johnny and says, I'm want 237 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:24.840 to show you something, and he shoves Johnny in the 238 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:27.200 room and locks the door behind him, and it's not 239 00:13:27.399 --> 00:13:30.679 very well lit in that room, and Johnny is watching 240 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:33.840 this rat walk toward him and he's screaming, I mean, 241 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:36.200 if he's anything like me, I can't stand this side 242 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:38.840 of a road that big anywhere near me, even a mouse, 243 00:13:38.879 --> 00:13:41.200 I can't stand. I'm standing on a chair trust me, 244 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:45.080 and Johnny Depp never got over that. He didn't like 245 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:48.000 that that that's what Michael Matson did, even though the 246 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:50.840 Mafia put him up to it. You know, he would 247 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:53.399 never know things like even to the point where when 248 00:13:53.759 --> 00:13:57.679 when they wanted Michael Manson to read for Donny Brasco, 249 00:13:57.759 --> 00:13:59.559 and he said something that I wish I had the 250 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:02.080 power to say because I feel the same way. He's like, 251 00:14:02.120 --> 00:14:04.679 I'm not gonna read. What do you mean I'm not 252 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:06.559 gonna read for the movie. You guys know I can 253 00:14:06.639 --> 00:14:08.559 do this. You know my work. You know I can 254 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:10.600 do this with my eyes closed. What I would have 255 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:13.039 to read. I'm gonna give you a shitty reading and 256 00:14:13.080 --> 00:14:15.080 you're gonna be confused. I'm I good for the part. 257 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:18.399 You know him good for the part. I love that rationale. 258 00:14:19.320 --> 00:14:22.039 So they said, well, well you at least meet Al Pacino. 259 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:24.679 He wants to meet you, and I guess size him 260 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:26.440 up to see if he's good enough. Because Michael had 261 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:28.480 a good part. Was it Sonny Black or Sonny Red? 262 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:30.480 I forget what Sonny you want? I think Sonny Black. 263 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:33.519 It was a real character. So he said, yeah, I'll 264 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:36.840 meet al Pacino. So he meets Al and right away 265 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:39.559 the only thing Al says to him to read the book. 266 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:43.639 Reread the script. Yeah, I read the script. Read the book. 267 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:46.120 I read the book. What do you think I like it? 268 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:50.039 I like it good. Oh by the way, yeah, uh, 269 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:53.600 you got no birds in this movie. The point was 270 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:57.519 that in the movie, Michael Madson's character was gonna have 271 00:14:57.559 --> 00:14:59.720 pigeons on his roof like a lot of people have 272 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:03.000 in the tough world, the tough guy world, like Mike Tyson. 273 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:06.320 Some mafia guys would do things with pigeons on their roofs. 274 00:15:06.360 --> 00:15:10.759 Right in the script, Michael Madsen's character had the pigeons. 275 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:15.000 This is how crazy Hollywood gets. Al Pacino reads the 276 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:17.320 script and says to the people making the movie, I 277 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:19.799 want the birds. He look at the birds. I get 278 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:22.919 the birds. So he tells Manson at the meeting, you 279 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:25.559 look at the birds. What do you mean the birds? 280 00:15:25.639 --> 00:15:28.639 I get the birds? No birds for you. Matt is 281 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:31.879 like all right, you know, and Al reports back, I 282 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:35.120 like him. Hire them, and they hire them. That's how 283 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:39.919 crazy Hollywood can get. Al Pacina wants the birds. Michael 284 00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:43.600 Madsen's not gonna read. It's not how nutty things can be. 285 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:47.039 To put together a movie. It's just you wonder why 286 00:15:47.080 --> 00:15:49.559 things don't get made, what's the hold up? What's going on? 287 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:54.639 All stupid shit like this. Another podcast I caught, and 288 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:56.879 I really I'm gonna try to make it my point 289 00:15:56.919 --> 00:15:59.159 to see this more, but or to listen to it more. 290 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:02.799 Have you checked that Army Hammer's podcast? I forget the name, 291 00:16:02.840 --> 00:16:06.120 but just look it up. His mother is a part 292 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:09.960 of his podcast, and it's great because she's so horrified 293 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:14.279 and disappointed in her son. Not because of the alleged 294 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:18.200 catibalism and then his marriage falling apart because of his 295 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:23.080 cheating and carousing. No, she's horrified that her son, one 296 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:28.120 of the heirs to the armaher Armenhammer, you know, Riches, 297 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:32.879 is living in a rent controlled apartment building in Glendale, 298 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:35.759 which if you're in Hollywood living in Glendale, you might 299 00:16:35.759 --> 00:16:38.080 as well be in you know, Mississippi. I mean it's 300 00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:41.000 not that far, but you don't consider people in Glendale 301 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:44.159 to be part of the business unless they're behind the scenes. 302 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:48.559 And not only that. The first podcast I listened to, 303 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:51.399 he tells his people, and it was a very bad episode. 304 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:53.759 That cuts were bad, the edits were horrible, the sound 305 00:16:53.919 --> 00:16:56.879 was bad. But he made no bones about it. He's like, 306 00:16:56.960 --> 00:16:58.440 this is all I wanted, this is all I can do. 307 00:16:58.639 --> 00:17:01.399 No one's hiring me. He'll get work. I'll let him 308 00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:04.480 fool you. He's tall, handsome, and he's got a name. 309 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:07.920 He'll get plenty of work. But he bought a couch 310 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:11.160 that day on Facebook marketplace that was really cheap, and 311 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:13.720 that's where his mother was sitting. She looked like she 312 00:17:13.759 --> 00:17:17.319 was sitting on a pile of shit. That's how she is. 313 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:20.680 She's very snooty, nose up in the air. So I 314 00:17:20.720 --> 00:17:22.920 don't know what's going to happen with this podcast. I 315 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:27.880 know the whole world. Everybody in the world has a podcast. 316 00:17:28.440 --> 00:17:31.200 There's good news about that. In bed I told you 317 00:17:31.279 --> 00:17:33.680 last week. I was happy to hear, and I'm happy 318 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:40.160 to know that people have really admitted that podcasters had 319 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:45.000 such a huge effect on the outcome of the presidential campaign. Yes, 320 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:47.640 you know, you need to find people who worked in 321 00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:52.119 the media who were independent journalists and not rely on 322 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:56.440 the networks and the cable networks, but find the independent journalists. 323 00:17:56.799 --> 00:18:01.319 And they really made mention constantly of how much podcasters 324 00:18:01.599 --> 00:18:04.960 helped Trump. And I love that because I wanted to 325 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:07.599 do that when he began to run years ago. That 326 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:09.839 was my goal. I want to help him. I want 327 00:18:09.880 --> 00:18:13.240 to make this happen. And if you look back to 328 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:17.200 back in the late eighties and only nineties, when I 329 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:21.880 was covering the beat and you know, writing about Trump, often, 330 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:23.799 I was writing about him because he would tip me 331 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:26.680 off to another story, and as a payback, I'd put 332 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:29.079 him in the column because he was in a basketball game, 333 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:32.319 or he ateed some restaurant, or he bought a new building. 334 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:35.200 That's how you pay people back in the trade. It's 335 00:18:35.279 --> 00:18:40.119 very quid pro quo. So I had a hand, as 336 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:43.440 did many of us in New York gossip columns and such, 337 00:18:43.880 --> 00:18:48.319 of making him famous to the point where he became 338 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:51.960 a TV star and if he's not a TV star 339 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:57.279 on his show The Apprentice, I don't think the rest 340 00:18:57.359 --> 00:19:00.680 of America knows enough about Donald Trump's one day he 341 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:03.559 can run for president and win not once but twice. 342 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:06.839 So I think, well, I know I had a hand 343 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:10.880 in the first, uh, the first the first spurt of 344 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:14.640 Trump becoming a person of interest and then president, and 345 00:19:14.680 --> 00:19:17.079 I think I had a hand in the second go round, 346 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:19.519 and I'm proud about that. I didn't know that would 347 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:22.240 be something that I look back on and like when 348 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:24.359 I began these podcasts. But I know that was a 349 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:30.920 goal of mine, and I'm glad it happened. This story, 350 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:33.079 you know, I just I see these things that I 351 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:37.160 have to comment. Kim Kardashians getting a lot of shit 352 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:40.960 for people saying she's making a mockery of religion because 353 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:46.240 she posed half naked while wearing rosary beads. This hypocrisy 354 00:19:46.359 --> 00:19:50.160 bugs this shit out of me. The other day there 355 00:19:50.200 --> 00:19:53.960 was pictures of herself posing in some all white one 356 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:58.160 of her skims collaboration with the adult chain Gabana. She 357 00:19:58.240 --> 00:20:05.920 had a cotton bray boxers shorts, lace leggings, and she 358 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:10.359 had rosary beads and a cross around her neck, and 359 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:12.920 her hair was long and black and parted down in 360 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:16.480 the middle. She looked great. At one point, there's a 361 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:18.839 picture she pulls her boxer shorts down a little bit, 362 00:20:19.720 --> 00:20:24.319 exposing that not her pubic area, but it was not. 363 00:20:25.160 --> 00:20:28.039 There was no hair showing, if I want to be blunt, 364 00:20:28.440 --> 00:20:32.160 but her boxes were pulled down a little bit, and 365 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:36.680 that got some people being very upset, very distasteful pictures. 366 00:20:36.759 --> 00:20:40.119 My word, I don't feel right with the Rosary there 367 00:20:40.119 --> 00:20:43.319 and this type of photo shoot. People are saying, why 368 00:20:43.359 --> 00:20:46.599 is she always wearing her across but she's half naked. Listen, 369 00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:52.799 you gotta stop. You know that priests wear rosary beads 370 00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:55.920 when they give boys head, right, you know that this 371 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:58.680 is not a big mystery. They're either wearing them or 372 00:20:58.720 --> 00:21:02.839 they're in their hands wearing a cross while being half naked. 373 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:07.200 Would you make a mockery out of other religions too? Okay, 374 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:12.039 I mean, just do the research on Look, Madonna did 375 00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:15.599 this years ago and rolled around the floor on the 376 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:18.640 MTV Awards or the VH whatever it was, and caused 377 00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:22.759 a worldwide Oh what, I can't believe she's doing this? 378 00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:27.640 Why do we get this way over religion? Don't play 379 00:21:27.680 --> 00:21:31.000 with the Holy Rosary? You know, when I went to 380 00:21:31.119 --> 00:21:34.519 Rome and been there twice, I've been to the Vatican, 381 00:21:35.680 --> 00:21:37.799 walked up the steps of the Cupolo all the way 382 00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:39.440 to the tippy top, and you look out on that 383 00:21:39.519 --> 00:21:42.640 roof and you see how the architecture of Rome and 384 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:45.319 the people, how they put it together. It's beautiful what 385 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:48.759 they did. I mean, it's absolutely gorgeous. But I also 386 00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:52.480 remember being in the gift shop at the Vatican, which 387 00:21:52.519 --> 00:21:54.839 I think is tacky as all hell. And I got 388 00:21:54.880 --> 00:21:56.319 a lot of shit for this when I wrote about 389 00:21:56.359 --> 00:21:58.720 it in my column that the Vatican has a gift 390 00:21:58.799 --> 00:22:02.319 shop and I use the word gaudy. There are a 391 00:22:02.359 --> 00:22:05.160 lot of things they sell that were gaudy, and boy 392 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:07.319 did people come down on that word. And you can't 393 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:10.279 talk that way. Do nothing of the Vatican is gaudy. 394 00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:14.119 The Vatican, Michael Jackson, and scientology. Those are the three 395 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:16.359 areas that you don't want to make fun of because 396 00:22:16.759 --> 00:22:20.759 the fans or the supporters of those three things are rabbit. 397 00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:25.079 But it doesn't bother me. Oh, I take it back. 398 00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:27.880 When I was looking at the pictures of the article, 399 00:22:27.960 --> 00:22:30.279 I wanted to zoom in, but I couldn't. That offended me. 400 00:22:31.079 --> 00:22:32.720 But what do you wanted to wear? Should she wear 401 00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:37.240