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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the show. This is our second

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UFO headlines. I got to talk quickly about that new

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intro for sure, Yeah, I put that together. I have

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this AI thing that I just you know, I signed

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up for to do an intro like that, and basically said, okay, Vintage,

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you know newsroom they're reporting on UFOs. UFO is all

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over the wall, So anyway, I thought it was a riot.

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And also the music, all the music that I play

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on this show, including that, I thought it fit really well.

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That's Kerry Lloyd Whitehouse. He's a composer in Ireland and

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he's also writing something on UFOs. I don't know when

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it'll be on a book, but he's in a friend

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of the show, I think, all the way back in

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since the very very beginning. Pardon me, yeah, I get

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a little cough, so hopefully that is not going to

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affect much. Oh hey, Mendy, Hey everyone there in Chat Dispatch.

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Thank you all for being here, Starfire ten girl, Nika, everyone,

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thanks so much for being here. So just a couple

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of things. This show is going to end around seven

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forty five pm this night tonight. Because you can jump

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right in our next video, which is also live, and

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that's Bogna Kenor, and she is going to be talking

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her her books called Deep Force. It's a lot about

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AI and things like that. Dean Aliotto filmmaker, fun guy,

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good friend. He's coming in to join me as a

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co host. So it should be an entertaining show and

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a very interesting show. So I look forward to that,

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and please do jump over right after this show. This

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show is not going to be edited. A couple of

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things about the show. We do use some clips that

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are copyright protected. I'm sure I don't even want to

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find out. So I do not monetize these shows, which

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means there shouldn't be any commercials playing. And unless you

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Tube decide they're going to play commercials all on their own.

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So so's to be a commercial free every month as

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far as I'm concerned. That's just fine with me. Hardon me,

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and again, I can't do anything about the cop I'm

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going to try not to cough as come along. I've

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had this now for six weeks or so. Jack, how

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you doing tonight. Good to have you back doing.

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Speaker 2: Good, Martin, Thanks for having me. We got a lot

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to talk about. I feel like the UFO world is

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kind of a buzz of a bunch of different storylines,

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there really is.

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Speaker 1: And also, anyone want to participate in chat if you

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have a question for us about any of the topics

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we're going to be talking about, then you just feel

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free to put your question in all caps. And so, yeah,

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a lot of things have been happening, and Palmer sends me.

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Palmer has been helping out for you years, sending all

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types of things on a daily basis, And so I

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got some things that he has said that are really interesting.

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So pardon me. So I don't even know where to begin.

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It's been real busy news month, and let's start with

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something old that's something new together, and that is you know,

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there's still a lot of people talking about the scientists.

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I had a friend who's in the antique auction world

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call me today and he said, what about all these

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scientists that are missing? You know, So it's starting to

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hit enough mainstreams that someone like him is hearing about it,

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and he wanted to know more about it. And so

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mclaslin has I think it was February twenty fourth or

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something like that, walked out the door, left his wallet,

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cell phone, brought his you know, his firearm, which the

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first thing I would think is a suit type side

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type of situation. I don't know. They still have not

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found him. But this clip I'm going to play right

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off the bat here was posted on Twitter and it's

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a March twenty sixteen, so it's over ten years old.

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and Tom did indeed get in to the government very

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early back then and met and worked with mclasland. So

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he does not name him, but that's exactly who he's

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talking about. It came out in emails later that that

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is the person. So I'm going to play this clip

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when I got connected to the general, that was

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a big, big breakthrough. And before I talk a little

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bit more about how I got you know, I got

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more trust from these guys. What happened was is I

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was up at NASA ames you know, I got connected

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to a very specific person and that person had me

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fly out and meet them. So this is where it

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gets really interesting. So I go out to a certain

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city and I landed the airport and I walked through

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security and I meet this person. The person takes me

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to a restaurant that's right past security. And I go

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to the back of the back of the restaurant. There's

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nobody in that area, and we sit at a booth

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for two hours. And while we're sitting there, he leans

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across the table and this is the first, the first,

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very first words that were said to me. It was

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the Cold War, and every single day we lived under

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the threat of nuclear war. Every single day we believed

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that nuclear war could happen at any given moment. And

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then he stops and he goes in somewhere in those years,

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and he looked me in the eye. He goes, we

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found a life form, and everything that we did and

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every decision that we made with that life form was

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because of the consciousness at that time. And I said, sir,

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form has done, for example, turning our nuclear weapons on

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and readying them for launch. And then he interrupts me,

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puts a finger in my face and says, there are

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heroes in Russia, heroes, and under grave risk to himself

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and to his country, they did not fire back. And

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this new game I was in of working with people

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in like a dance of words, and information was already coming.

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was no like small talk, Like we didn't just sit

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that conversation. It was the Cold War. I mean, he's

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given you sort of the setting for how the cover

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up or what we'd call the cover up began.

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and this is this is where this is where I'm

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so excited to start chopping down all these pathetic conspiracies

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that I was involved in as well. You know, it

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was the Cold War. We really he's saying that every

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day they really thought about the annihilation of all mankind

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with these you know, weapons that were hundreds or thousands

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of times bigger than what we dropped on Japan. And

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we had twenty thousand each of those things, and all

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of a sudden something falls on the on their laps.

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if you really hear what I'm saying about the nuclear weapons.

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The UFOs were turning our weapons on and just so

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Russia could pick up that we're firing our missiles and

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fire theirs first. It was a big chess game. So

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these guys went into complete secrecy to start coming up

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with a defense system against this phenomenon.

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Speaker 1: Now pretty interesting, huh, Yes, fascinating. I never heard that

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he's talking about life forms. So you know, if that

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story is all true what Tom DeLong is saying, then

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mcclaslyn knew a lot more than their you know, saying

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm just hearing that audio file for the

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first time on your show live, and I had no

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idea that this was even a thing. I don't and

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that makes me like, do you remember it wasn't it

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reported that his wife came out saying like, oh, like,

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leave the UFO community needs to leave my husband alone,

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like he wasn't.

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Speaker 5: Involved in like yes, blah blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: But then yet there's this audio file with George Knapper

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interviewing DeLong like saying that he met him in the

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back of like a restaurant for two hours. Yeah, just

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like talking about UFOs and aliens.

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Speaker 5: Like what Martin, Like what are we? What is going on?

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Like this is crazy?

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Speaker 1: Yes, So I have an announcement to Nate to make

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to everyone, because tonight I was going to have James

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I said, hey, James, just come on for like fifteen minutes. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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he was come on a bit yet. So he just

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called me. He's calling himself a horrible friend, which he's not.

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forgiven because he's a very busy guy. He's on his

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way to dinner with his with his family at to

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a house and Vermont where he lives, and he can't

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make it tonight. And what he was going to be

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talking about was the film that was the film clip

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that came out. He's got a lot to say about it.

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and someone had, you know, a copy of it, and

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James has been trying to get that forever because he

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says the most profound thing, most believable UFO video that

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he's ever seen, you know, so anyway, but James said,

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I have something much bigger than that to talk about,

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and he says, you can you can announce this, he says,

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mark my words, everybody is going to know about what

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I have to talk about. So I said, will you

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to talk about and he said yes, he said, I'll

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be on within a month to talk about whatever it is.

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hint to what this is. So I don't know what

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a real tease. But within the month or even in

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this timeslot next month, we will hear from James Fox

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about something quote really big. So I'm looking forward to that. Wow,

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we can only speculate. Cant about that video, right, it's

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not about the video, he said, I have something else basis,

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he says, he does have a lot to say about

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that video, but he has something else and so and

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he's a very busy guy. He's very very well connected,

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so I don't doubt him for a moment.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know what he's working on. I

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haven't talked to him about that. So hello everyone in chat,

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thank you all for being here. And Bobby's here. I

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met Bobby back in two thousand and thirteen at a

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UFO convention. He was a listener of the show from

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the very beginning. Anyway, it's always good to seem he

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still hangs out after all these years. Hardon me, So

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what are some of the things you find interesting in

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this since the last time we met here?

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Speaker 2: I feel like there's well, my honest take, and this

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might be a little bit pessimistic, but you'll have to

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push back on it if you disagree, Martin. But a

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lot of times when I see all these headlines coming

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out and everything, it kind of makes me wonder, like,

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if you zoom out a little bit, historically speaking, is

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history just repeating itself all over again? I really hope

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this doesn't all just I don't want to damp the

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flame on the UFO excitement at all, but a lot

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of what I see is just a whole lot of

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talking and a whole lot of nothing, And that seems

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to be the general theme of things. And I feel

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like there's just a lot of mysterious actors in the

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sense that are people who have ties to the intelligence community,

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but you know, kind of come out halfway. But they're

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still you know, they have their oaths to protect the country,

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and there's still they still have their security clearances and

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all that, all that stuff, and yet we still prop

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these people up on pedestals and everything. But I'm just

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a little afraid. And then like, haven't you heard, Martin

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of that aliens dot gov website that I keep you

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I don't know if it's live. Like I just hope Martin,

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and I don't want this to happen, but I just

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hope it doesn't get built up to this huge like

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announcement whatever, just to have it be like another Phoenix

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alien doll to the podium at the news conference and

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just mock the whole event even though it really happened.

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understand your feelings, Shack, and having done this a bit

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longer than you, I say that there's been a lot

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of disappointment and a lot of steps forward and steps back. Yeah,

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through the time that I've been involved. And I've been

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involved in the topic a short amount of time compared

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to a lot of people I know, you know, So

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I've only actually been at really looking into fifteen years

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when there are people that have been looking into it

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for fifty years, you know. And I listened to them

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about their circumstances and their thoughts about the topic, feeling

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like it's moving forward, and then you know, this breaks

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apart or this is a hoax, or this is that,

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and so it does happen a lot. But I do

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feel like there's more forward momentum than there has been.

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we may be we may be seeing some things. So yes,

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as well. So let's move on and talk about I

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don't have a clip of David Grush, I couldn't find

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the exact but what about David Rush's last statement and

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the gist of what he was said in the most

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recent interview.

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kind of dropped a timeline on the UFO community, kind

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of giving everybody a heads up that he's you know,

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speculating or anticipating that a significant escalation and you know,

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public disclosure is going to occur within the next two

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to six, two to three months this year. So, like

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again another common trope and theme within you phology in

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the community, you know, having these dates out in the

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future where something's gonna gonna happen and then ope, nothing

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ever does and then nobody really cares.

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Speaker 5: So I hope that is not the case either.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, I know we got like what forty

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six videos that are probably grainy and blurry and you

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can't see anything from it, and there's you know, half

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the video is going to be probably edited out so

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that you can't do any scientific data analysis on the

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video that we get, Like, are any of the maybe

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he's talking about those videos that are that we're waiting

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to get released from the government.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, above the grainy, rainy videos that you know, I mean,

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my producer Donna, who you know, said yeah, what if

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it's a technology they have that you can't focus and

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you know with your iPhone, you know, I mean, what

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if it's something they have that they're they're blurring the

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videos from their side, which would be interesting.

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Speaker 5: It would be yes, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I uh that was there any other points

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that he made that shoot out to you? I know

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that I got a bunch of people sending me stuff

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that he said you talked about.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm looking at my notes here, Martin as

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I'm looking off screen. There was one part that I

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thought was interesting, just that he kind of goes over

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these main points. I mean, he's gone over them before

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in the past. This has been the theme that he's

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carried out over the past few years whenever he does speaks.

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front of Congress, just that programs are hidden from the

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Senate and House Intelligence and Armed Services Committees through you know,

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placemat charts and misleading briefings. Some programs are at the

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White House level initiatives and ministally delegated to the d

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o D, creating reporting loopholes. I'm trying to think he

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talks about I guess specific naming conventions that can be used,

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like the Macula constellation being like randomized and rotating schemas

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for program titles and events, tracking oversight bodies. I mean,

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just some things that I plugged into AI here based

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on what Grush had said, it looks like it's spewed out,

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like I guess it was discussed where you know, the

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program can be somewhat described as like a foreign material

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acquisition and exploitation program hidden in plain sight. Basically it

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utilizes things like off the books activities where the official

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day job of a program serves as a cover for

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the actual exploitation of UAP related materials. Again, these are

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all things that are common themes that are discussed in

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eufology at large. It's really nothing new here bypassing specific

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oversight corporate involvement, I guess something how like back in

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two thousand and four, things got moved to private companies

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to avoid Fouer requests. I mean, this is all speculation

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or hearsay. I don't know. I don't know proof was

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provided for any of these kind of statements. But those

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are just some of the things that he that he

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I think was discussed in his interview at least at

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a high level. But I think the main takeaway was

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just that sixty to ninety day deadline was given for

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when quote unquote disclosure for UFOs will escalate. Whatever that means,

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I couldn't tell you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So Wendy has this for us, and I am

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not familiar. Mindy. I have to tell you, I don't

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follow Jeremy or George all that closely. So are you

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familiar with us? See Sleeping Dog documentary.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen some people talk about it, Patrick over

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at Vetted, and I've seen clips of the trailer. Patrick's

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always saying production value wise, it looks amazing. But apparently

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I guess Jeremy's going to be releasing some new UFO

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information or something that he has in his film. So

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I guess he's just waiting to release that info until

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his film comes out. But I think that's basically the

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gist that I got. But it seems like very well

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put together. I think it basically goes follows Jeremy along

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in his journey following and reporting on the UFO topic

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at large.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Jeremy follows himself around in his own documentaries. They're

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always him everywhere. Well, that should be interesting, maybe he's

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not on the cell phone in this one, but yes,

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I'm teasing him a little bit. So that's interesting. You're right,

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there is a lot of information to take in and

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he's going to be out. I believe they're going to

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be screening that film or one of their documentaries out

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there at Contact in the Desert World. I'll be in

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a couple of weeks, so yeah, I'll check it out

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while while I'm there. So I want to talk about this.

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Someone sent me this.

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Speaker 2: Well before you get to that, Martin. Speaking of films,

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one other film, your friend Dean Alioto, he has his

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film coming out with Experiencers.

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Speaker 5: Do you know that's right?

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Speaker 1: Is he premiering it at.

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Speaker 2: Because I really want to watch that one, Like that's

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that's what like if there was one UFO filmy besides

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the Spielberg one coming out, But that's more like for entertainment.

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But Dean's films more it seems a little bit more

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taking the topic seriously and interviewing those experiencers.

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Speaker 5: Because I'm excited for that one. I think it's going

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to be.

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Speaker 1: He has and he worked on that a very long time.

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I talked to for the years as he's been working

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on that and yeah, I'm excited to see that too.

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should be really good. That's going to be out of

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Contact of the Desert as well, and I'm gonna be

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sitting right right with him on that one, and should

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be a lot of fun to see. So this clip

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I'm going to play here, I have a choice to

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make a couple of different clips. Do we want to

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go with an angry situation and get it over with,

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or do we want to talk about Obama again? Or yourshell?

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You put all right? All right, let's just get this

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out of the way, because I thought this was pretty interesting.

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So Stephen green Street, who everyone knows that pays attention

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to the UFO topic, He's not he's a lot of

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what he says. I heard him on it recently. He

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didn't sound he sounded a little softer than he usually

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does as far as the trying to bunk everything. But anyway,

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he played this clip on Twitter and and it's basically

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Tim Galadette, former rear retired Rear Admiral Tim Galadett is

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calling Sean kirk Patrick, former director of Arrow Out, and

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so they're both calling each other liars. I thought it

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was kind of interesting.

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Speaker 5: Plan is yeah, Sean.

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Speaker 6: I respect to you. We both have decades of government

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service together and intelligence and whatnot.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to ask you a point blank and put

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you on the spot on something. After my twenty twenty

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four UAP hearing testimony in front of Congress, you had

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tweeted a response about my statement regarding Arrow, where you

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said I came and visited Arrow and it was bitter

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because I didn't get a job, and that you believe

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that was because you didn't hire me because I was

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prone to conspiracy theories, and that you check with some

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of my bosses on that statement. It's well out there.

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You tweeted it, and ultimately you know. I didn't go

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visit ERA when you were there. It was after you left.

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I was invited by Mike Washell, the Navy intel rep

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who asked me to come there, and that's what I

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spoke about during my hearing, And of course I didn't

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look for a job. He invited me, and for me

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to actually go for a GS fourteen job after having

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been an under Secretary of Commerce, that's kind of preposterous,

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I would say. And at the same time, when you

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said you check with my bosses. I had. My bosses

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formerly were two two stars, four four stars, and a

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secretary of commerce who I've all spoken with, and you

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never really checked with them. So ultimately, your statement there

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was an outright lie, and I want to ask you

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what you have to say about that.

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Speaker 7: I'd say it was not an outright lie because Mike

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brought you in. You sat in my office and we

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had this conversation about.

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Speaker 6: You where you're taking that we had left it was phillips.

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Speaker 7: And the position you were looking for was an sees posis.

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Speaker 6: I was not asking for a position. Remember Mike brought

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me then he asked me to come out.

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Speaker 8: To shed light on the issue itself.

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Speaker 1: Exactly.

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Speaker 5: Well, good point.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 6: Ultimately, so it's really clear that you have been executing

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a misinformation disinformation campaign about this. This whole slide captures it,

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and I know you can't acknowledge it because you're whoever's whoever,

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you're on the payroll. We won't allow you to that's

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my statement.

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Speaker 7: Okay, Well that's a that's a great statement that has

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absolutely enough bearing from reality.

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Speaker 1: So yes, okay, wow you believe who to believe?

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Speaker 5: Yep?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know think you believe Kirkpatrick. Clearly

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he wasn't lying, dude, one thing, so great clip. Glad

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you shared it. Going back to real quick to Grush,

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I was just looking at the notes here, Martin. The

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other thing that I thought is worth mentioning he said

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all this in the past, and this isn't new news,

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but just the fact that he seems to be playing

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the card, or at least he's labeling himself as like

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the person who's pro disclosure in the sense that he

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wants to get the STEM community involved so that they

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can leverage other talents that may not necessarily be within

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these special access programs, because we don't want to lose

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the race against adversarial nations who also have this you know,

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non terrestrial technology or terrestrial wherever they come from. The

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other part that was interesting in that Grush clip was

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that I guess the US government maintains possession of multiple

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more than one, but fewer than one hundred non human

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vehicles and associated biologics. I mean, whoa, that's kind of

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Speaker 9: In there.

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Speaker 2: But I just think it's funny whenever these numbers are

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thrown out, it's like, where you getting that number?

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Speaker 5: From and how do you how do you know? Like

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the government is huge?

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Speaker 1: But well, well, also you get to think too, if

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something you know, what are they allowed to say? I mean,

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if right, if he actually knew that information firsthand, is

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he allowed to say that, you know? Without Yeah, it

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just sounds like pushing it or yeah, you know, or

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it would have to be one or two things. He's

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really pushing it or it's not exactly true, right, you know,

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and I'm not pushing it. Go ahead, Well, I'm not

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going to call him, you know. I think he's a

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man of integrity. I don't think you intentionally lie myself. Yep. So,

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I mean that's just my opinion, but it's it is

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really puzzling when he could come out, you know and

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say something like that.

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Speaker 5: Right, So for sure my view on it too, Martin.

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Speaker 2: Is the way I look at it is we have

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this like social creation in our world, in our timeline

478
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that we live in, this which we would call like

479
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,359
the government. I don't want to get too heady here,

480
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,039
but governments like they're the only ones who can enforce

481
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,960
violence on their own citizens where it's legally allowed. They're

482
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,519
the only ones who can print money without actually having

483
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to earn it. They can just print it out of

484
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,839
thin air and inflate their own currencies, whereas like you,

485
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,359
people like you and me have to work to get money.

486
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,079
We can't just create more of it. So they have

487
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a bunch of the government. This creation that we have

488
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that we've made as humans have like gone on for

489
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three five thousand years whatever. We have this thing called

490
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government that we govern ourselves with. But they have all

491
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the power. So whenever it comes to UFO, it's like

492
00:28:53,359 --> 00:28:56,279
so blatantly obvious the amount of secrecy that's involved on

493
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,599
the topic. It's kind of laughable at this point. But

494
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at the same time, if you're going to get any

495
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,839
kind of answers, we really have no choice but just

496
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,599
to you know, drink whatever they're offering us at the bar,

497
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,279
like for a story, which kind of stinks. We're kind

498
00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:14,000
of at a loss, but that's just kind of my

499
00:29:14,119 --> 00:29:14,559
view on it.

500
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Speaker 1: What do you think, Yeah, I mean, will I think

501
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:23,759
it's a wait and see again. You know, maybe what

502
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,640
Grush said there's some truth to it, maybe, and maybe

503
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,559
there will be something more within thirty days. Everyone a

504
00:29:32,599 --> 00:29:35,160
few years ago was talking about twenty twenty seven, which

505
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,119
is you know, we're knocking on the door of that

506
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,759
pretty soon. So I'm just going to pop up a

507
00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:44,119
couple of things here. I stand in this. I don't

508
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:49,359
think NHI know who its creators are. They are searching

509
00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:53,559
for answers just like us, even though they civilizations are older.

510
00:29:53,599 --> 00:29:58,680
It's very possible. That's an interesting statement. And Christopher Alexander,

511
00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:01,839
have you heard of the megature pastor who's claiming that

512
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,480
Trump advised him to prepare his congregation. Yes, I'm going

513
00:30:05,559 --> 00:30:07,319
to play a clip on that, and I also play

514
00:30:07,319 --> 00:30:10,799
that right now. Yeah, and we'll discuss that. So this

515
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,240
is a two minute clip from Perry Stone, pastor Perry Stone,

516
00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:20,319
who I actually got in contact with his assistant and

517
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:25,839
trying to get him to talk. We have a conversation

518
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,799
going through email, and we'll see what happens with that.

519
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:29,440
Here he is.

520
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,559
Speaker 10: I had a friend that sent me a text message.

521
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I was in a meeting, a weekend meeting preaching Friday,

522
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Saturday and Sunday morning, and he said, Perry, can you

523
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give me a call? I have some information that has

524
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come to my attention. Of course, when a friend of

525
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,680
yours does that that you know quite well, you're not

526
00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:57,119
you have no idea what information they're talking about. And

527
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I'm not going to go into great detail, but there

528
00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:05,160
were a large number of pastors that had been invited

529
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to go to a certain state to hear some men

530
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,519
in the United States government and others share with them

531
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,119
a concern that they had, and this particular.

532
00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: Man, I'll not name him, and then.

533
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Speaker 10: We may end up doing some teachings with him or

534
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having an event at.

535
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,039
Speaker 9: His church as a great church.

536
00:31:29,759 --> 00:31:34,839
Speaker 10: But he said, Perry, what they're about to release from

537
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:39,440
what we're hearing, there's going to be a release concerning

538
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:50,000
aliens and concerning uh unidentified flying object spacecraft that some

539
00:31:50,079 --> 00:31:51,319
of the people who.

540
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Speaker 9: Were in the meeting were.

541
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,799
Speaker 10: Telling us as pastors, you need to prepare your people

542
00:31:58,119 --> 00:32:01,640
and you need to get ready to end them for

543
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:07,039
what you're about to hear being released. And some of

544
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:10,279
it has to do with crafts that have been discovered

545
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:14,559
that are not allegedly a part of our planet, and

546
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:16,119
the materials they're made of.

547
00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 9: Are not a part of our planet.

548
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 10: Very strange reptilian looking creatures and other things that almost

549
00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:28,119
sound like something out of a sci fi movie or

550
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,480
an Orson Wells book.

551
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Speaker 1: Right. Wow, So now there is a follow up to

552
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,359
that and Patrick over vetted.

553
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,359
Speaker 5: I just you say reptilians.

554
00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:44,079
Speaker 1: He did say reptilians.

555
00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, I got a lot out there.

556
00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: That's that's kind of far out there. And anyway, I

557
00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:57,720
wanted to get him on to talk to him more

558
00:32:57,759 --> 00:33:00,680
about that expand more of what he knows what. But

559
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:03,920
you you know, just before we went live, you had

560
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,839
mentioned about Patrick had vetted, and I'm gonna see if

561
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,559
I can find that clip and put it up, But

562
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,839
I don't think I can. I lost that when the

563
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:21,160
crash happened. But what was that that that person said

564
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,200
you're talking about me? I mean I can, we can

565
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,720
move on and I can try to find it, but

566
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:27,359
I just don't have a right handy right now.

567
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Speaker 5: Can you open up the private chat mayin?

568
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 9: Yeah?

569
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: I could do that, all right, all right? But meanwhile,

570
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,839
do you have something you can talk about why I

571
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,000
try to look for that? Yeah?

572
00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: I mean the Barack Obama clip that we haven't played

573
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,599
yet is going to be fantastic. I mean, I, for one,

574
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,519
I thought that was kind of funny. He's basically making

575
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:51,799
a joke of the whole thing, which is funny, yeah

576
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,480
as well, But but then at the same time he

577
00:33:54,599 --> 00:33:57,160
jokingly puts his name in the hat to be the

578
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,240
ambassador for not just the United States.

579
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, but for the whole planet. I mean it was good.

580
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me see if I think I did find it.

581
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:14,360
And I think it is at twenty one minutes you

582
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,400
told me, right.

583
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 2: Isn't it like nineteen thirty three? All right, I forget

584
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,599
the timestamp. Chat if you know, all right, it's on

585
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,000
that It's channel yep.

586
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 1: And I'll use that. Patrick always runs my clips on

587
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,760
my channel on his channel all the time, so I

588
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,880
will just tell him that I'm going to run this

589
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:40,239
one and I'm almost there, and hopefully we will not

590
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,679
have a big crash once again when I try it.

591
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 2: Don't risk it if you think it's going to mess

592
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,400
it up, Martin. I mean, we can just talk about

593
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:49,400
it basically.

594
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 5: Just let me know. I'll give a quick recap.

595
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:57,639
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, I see where it is. I'm going

596
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,559
to give it a shot and uh.

597
00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:04,679
Speaker 2: Okay, of life, you know, of life?

598
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: Here we go, chat yep, Okay, clear.

599
00:35:13,639 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 11: These are legit true men of God that are still

600
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connected to Washington and even this current administration and all

601
00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:22,519
branches of military, and they literally told us we had

602
00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:26,519
a sitting congressman, a very well known congressman from Missouri.

603
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,320
He was he called in that meeting as well. It

604
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,760
was just the pastors, and this is what he said

605
00:35:32,199 --> 00:35:35,719
on speakerphone. This sitting powerful member of Congress said, are

606
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,639
the pastors listening to me? I'm getting chills right now

607
00:35:38,679 --> 00:35:41,000
because this happened to me. He said, are the pastors

608
00:35:41,039 --> 00:35:43,599
in the room listening to me? And I said, yes, sir,

609
00:35:43,639 --> 00:35:46,719
we are here. And he said, listen to me. Go

610
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:52,039
tell the church. They are not ready for what is coming.

611
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,199
The narrative that is coming. What they are going to

612
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,400
say is going to be nothing you can even imagine

613
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:03,960
preparing Ella. They are from another dimension, that they are

614
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:07,840
our creator, and that these beings, these aliens or whatever

615
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,800
you want to call them, they were the ones that

616
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,159
seated us here. There is no such thing as God.

617
00:36:12,599 --> 00:36:15,119
Jesus was invented by them. The Bible was invented by them.

618
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,880
And begin to just say, listen, prepare the people for

619
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,440
what is coming because they're not ready.

620
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:20,679
Speaker 1: Yeah.

621
00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 5: So that was yo, Martin, we got to prepare.

622
00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 9: Up.

623
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,599
Speaker 5: Can't hear your mind? And you're muted. You're muted, You're muted. Yep,

624
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:31,039
you got.

625
00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I didn't want the feedback. Yeah, so

626
00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:35,880
that pretty interesting.

627
00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:41,679
Speaker 2: Uh yeah and he was so I guess yeah, Representative

628
00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:43,559
Burlson didn't say all that stuff.

629
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:47,159
Speaker 5: It was just this reverend's opinion. Apparently.

630
00:36:48,039 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: Oh so he did he actually walk it back?

631
00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 5: He did.

632
00:36:52,719 --> 00:37:02,519
Speaker 1: That's someone threatened his life. I'll start conspiracy right here, right, Yeah,

633
00:37:02,559 --> 00:37:03,679
it was the Reptilians.

634
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,039
Speaker 5: It's all their fall.

635
00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: Yep, they did it. Yeah. Well, it's all interesting, and

636
00:37:09,159 --> 00:37:15,000
I think it's interesting that if this isn't really happening,

637
00:37:16,119 --> 00:37:20,320
that it's really interesting that this segment of society, pastors, etc.

638
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,880
Are talking about it.

639
00:37:23,159 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 9: Yeah.

640
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,159
Speaker 5: True, that's a good point. Yep.

641
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: It's definitely different than anything I've ever seen. Yes, yes, okay, yeah,

642
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,159
we don't have a lot of time left. Actually it's

643
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,480
flown by quite fast. So I'm going to play this

644
00:37:38,679 --> 00:37:44,039
clip here of former President Obama and it's with a

645
00:37:44,159 --> 00:37:48,840
Stephen Colbert and this interview, and it might be disappointed

646
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,239
to some, but here we go.

647
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 12: Earlier this year, you said of aliens, yes, quote they're real,

648
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,840
but I haven't seen them.

649
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,199
Speaker 9: Then you tried to walk get back the next day.

650
00:38:01,559 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 12: You know, no one believed you, right, because that first

651
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,440
one had the ring of truth.

652
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 9: It was just a guy just letting it finally let

653
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:08,679
it out.

654
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 12: And then the next day you're like, well, what I

655
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,840
meant was I'm sure that somewhere out there, given the infinite,

656
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,039
you know, nature of the universe and the built no

657
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:16,719
one buys that.

658
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,199
Speaker 9: Just come clean, man, you.

659
00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:22,639
Speaker 12: Don't want to tarnish a reputation for just like Frankness,

660
00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:24,599
it's honesty at this point of your career.

661
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:26,639
Speaker 9: Oh lord sir at long last, won't you.

662
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 8: I thought it was so obvious what I meant.

663
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 12: Huh, Yes, Oh, it was obvious what you meant, and

664
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,599
we all got the message.

665
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,079
Speaker 8: Here's the thing, uh huh. For those of you who

666
00:38:36,119 --> 00:38:40,599
still think that, you know, we've got little green men

667
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:41,960
underground somewhere.

668
00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:42,679
Speaker 1: Yeah.

669
00:38:43,039 --> 00:38:45,679
Speaker 8: One of the things you learn as president, yes, is

670
00:38:48,559 --> 00:38:52,719
government is terrible at keeping secrets. This idea of conspiracy theories.

671
00:38:53,079 --> 00:38:57,119
If if there were aliens or aliens, spaceships or anything

672
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,440
under the control of the United States Government that we

673
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:05,280
knew about seeing photographs, what have you. I promise you

674
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,480
some guide guarding the installation would have taken a selfie

675
00:39:11,519 --> 00:39:13,239
with one of the aliens and send it to his

676
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,559
girlfriend and press him.

677
00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:18,039
Speaker 12: It would there be like hints, there'd be like certain

678
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:20,320
hints out there, like a presidential center would look like

679
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,280
a scout ship that's just come down from low orbit

680
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:24,320
in landing in Chicago.

681
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 9: That would happen. It could happen, And do you wish

682
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,599
they were real? I actually do.

683
00:39:33,519 --> 00:39:38,639
Speaker 8: All right, I'm putting in a plug now, Okay, first contact.

684
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,719
I think I would be a good emissary for for the.

685
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 9: Plant he's got those, aren't man?

686
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I know I've got a diverse background,

687
00:39:50,039 --> 00:39:57,000
some experience in state craft and diplomacy. I'm friendly. Thank so,

688
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,880
I actually think, uh, you know, I could do a

689
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:02,559
pretty good job.

690
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,199
Speaker 9: All right, So good pitch. Yeah, we will keep that

691
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,599
in mind. Thank you so much. But it hasn't happened yet.

692
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 12: Okay, great, all right, and we have your phone number

693
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,400
here on the resume. Thank you so much. Very impressive.

694
00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 9: Good.

695
00:40:16,519 --> 00:40:20,559
Speaker 1: He's so funny, both of them are, so you know,

696
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,639
I got to I got to push back a little

697
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:25,159
bit on that because and it's it's not I'm not

698
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:28,760
the first one saying it. Stanton Friedman used to always

699
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:34,679
say that the excuse was that the government couldn't keep secrets,

700
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,280
and he said, well, what about the Manhattan Project. You

701
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,000
know there was half a million people involved in that,

702
00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:44,199
you know, you know, not at the same time, but

703
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,920
you know, peak peak there was one hundred and fifty

704
00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:52,159
thousand people working on that at the same time, and

705
00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:55,719
the secret never got out. So that's you know, that's

706
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,159
that was Stanton Freeman's argument, you know, when it when

707
00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:03,239
it comes to something major like that. So I don't know,

708
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,519
I don't know what to think about the clip. I

709
00:41:06,599 --> 00:41:09,280
know that we talked about it before. My friend Ben

710
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,760
Hansen did an analysis of Obama when he was talking

711
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,599
about this before, and the shallow breaths and the the

712
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:22,800
you could see the the throbbing was picking up fast,

713
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,880
you know, his heartbeat was picking up faster when he

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was talking about this. So he definitely thinks that he

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knows more than than he's you know, leading that he

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does either way. Yeah, yeah, but I still, you know,

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I say all the time on the show, I don't

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think they know everything, and because of that, they can't

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you know, say the right things for us to feel comfortable,

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you know, basically, bottom line, that's my thought.

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Speaker 5: I think it's just about control.

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Speaker 2: They might have to they might end up losing control,

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so they don't want to do that.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a good point. Well, I think we

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better call it a night and for everyone to jump

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on over to our next show, which comes up in

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fifteen minutes with Bogner, Kanor and Dean Aliotto. And thank

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you very.

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Speaker 2: Much, Shaq, Yeah, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and thank you all for being here. I appreciate

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you all and Chat and your participation and so we'll

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see you next in one month. And before that you're

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going to be hearing about James Fox on the show

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with some big news that he has to share, and

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I'm pretty excited about that. But anyway, jump on over

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to Bogner and keep your eyes to the sky. Everyone,

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Good night Chat