Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the show. This is our second
UFO headlines. I got to talk quickly about that new
intro for sure, Yeah, I put that together. I have
this AI thing that I just you know, I signed
up for to do an intro like that, and basically said, okay, Vintage,
you know newsroom they're reporting on UFOs. UFO is all
over the wall, So anyway, I thought it was a riot.
And also the music, all the music that I play
on this show, including that, I thought it fit really well.
That's Kerry Lloyd Whitehouse. He's a composer in Ireland and
he's also writing something on UFOs. I don't know when
it'll be on a book, but he's in a friend
of the show, I think, all the way back in
since the very very beginning. Pardon me, yeah, I get
a little cough, so hopefully that is not going to
affect much. Oh hey, Mendy, Hey everyone there in Chat Dispatch.
Thank you all for being here, Starfire ten girl, Nika, everyone,
thanks so much for being here. So just a couple
of things. This show is going to end around seven
forty five pm this night tonight. Because you can jump
right in our next video, which is also live, and
that's Bogna Kenor, and she is going to be talking
her her books called Deep Force. It's a lot about
AI and things like that. Dean Aliotto filmmaker, fun guy,
good friend. He's coming in to join me as a
co host. So it should be an entertaining show and
a very interesting show. So I look forward to that,
and please do jump over right after this show. This
show is not going to be edited. A couple of
things about the show. We do use some clips that
are copyright protected. I'm sure I don't even want to
find out. So I do not monetize these shows, which
means there shouldn't be any commercials playing. And unless you
Tube decide they're going to play commercials all on their own.
So so's to be a commercial free every month as
far as I'm concerned. That's just fine with me. Hardon me,
and again, I can't do anything about the cop I'm
going to try not to cough as come along. I've
had this now for six weeks or so. Jack, how
you doing tonight. Good to have you back doing.
Speaker 2: Good, Martin, Thanks for having me. We got a lot
to talk about. I feel like the UFO world is
kind of a buzz of a bunch of different storylines,
there really is.
Speaker 1: And also, anyone want to participate in chat if you
have a question for us about any of the topics
we're going to be talking about, then you just feel
free to put your question in all caps. And so, yeah,
a lot of things have been happening, and Palmer sends me.
Palmer has been helping out for you years, sending all
types of things on a daily basis, And so I
got some things that he has said that are really interesting.
So pardon me. So I don't even know where to begin.
It's been real busy news month, and let's start with
something old that's something new together, and that is you know,
there's still a lot of people talking about the scientists.
I had a friend who's in the antique auction world
call me today and he said, what about all these
scientists that are missing? You know, So it's starting to
hit enough mainstreams that someone like him is hearing about it,
and he wanted to know more about it. And so
mclaslin has I think it was February twenty fourth or
something like that, walked out the door, left his wallet,
cell phone, brought his you know, his firearm, which the
first thing I would think is a suit type side
type of situation. I don't know. They still have not
found him. But this clip I'm going to play right
off the bat here was posted on Twitter and it's
a March twenty sixteen, so it's over ten years old.
It's an interview that George Knapp did with Tom DeLong,
and Tom did indeed get in to the government very
early back then and met and worked with mclasland. So
he does not name him, but that's exactly who he's
talking about. It came out in emails later that that
is the person. So I'm going to play this clip
right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I got connected to the general, that was
a big, big breakthrough. And before I talk a little
bit more about how I got you know, I got
more trust from these guys. What happened was is I
was up at NASA ames you know, I got connected
to a very specific person and that person had me
fly out and meet them. So this is where it
gets really interesting. So I go out to a certain
city and I landed the airport and I walked through
security and I meet this person. The person takes me
to a restaurant that's right past security. And I go
to the back of the back of the restaurant. There's
nobody in that area, and we sit at a booth
for two hours. And while we're sitting there, he leans
across the table and this is the first, the first,
very first words that were said to me. It was
the Cold War, and every single day we lived under
the threat of nuclear war. Every single day we believed
and really thought in the deepest part of our souls
that nuclear war could happen at any given moment. And
then he stops and he goes in somewhere in those years,
and he looked me in the eye. He goes, we
found a life form, and everything that we did and
every decision that we made with that life form was
because of the consciousness at that time. And I said, sir,
you know when taking into account things that this life
form has done, for example, turning our nuclear weapons on
and readying them for launch. And then he interrupts me,
puts a finger in my face and says, there are
heroes in Russia, heroes, and under grave risk to himself
and to his country, they did not fire back. And
at that moment I realized I was it already started
this new game I was in of working with people
in like a dance of words, and information was already coming.
He I mean there was it was no uh, there
was no like small talk, Like we didn't just sit
down and just say, hey, let's let's have a mirror
and let's get to know each other.
Speaker 4: So let's jump back to that. Let's jump back to
that conversation. It was the Cold War. I mean, he's
given you sort of the setting for how the cover
up or what we'd call the cover up began.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is very important for people to remember,
and this is this is where this is where I'm
so excited to start chopping down all these pathetic conspiracies
that I was involved in as well. You know, it
was the Cold War. We really he's saying that every
day they really thought about the annihilation of all mankind
with these you know, weapons that were hundreds or thousands
of times bigger than what we dropped on Japan. And
we had twenty thousand each of those things, and all
of a sudden something falls on the on their laps.
That's just extraordinary, you know. But even even further than that,
if you really hear what I'm saying about the nuclear weapons.
The UFOs were turning our weapons on and just so
Russia could pick up that we're firing our missiles and
fire theirs first. It was a big chess game. So
these guys went into complete secrecy to start coming up
with a defense system against this phenomenon.
Speaker 1: Now pretty interesting, huh, Yes, fascinating. I never heard that
in real time. I never heard that interview. I mean
I definitely would have you know, remember that, especially when
he's talking about life forms. So you know, if that
story is all true what Tom DeLong is saying, then
mcclaslyn knew a lot more than their you know, saying
he did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm just hearing that audio file for the
first time on your show live, and I had no
idea that this was even a thing. I don't and
that makes me like, do you remember it wasn't it
reported that his wife came out saying like, oh, like,
leave the UFO community needs to leave my husband alone,
like he wasn't.
Speaker 5: Involved in like yes, blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: But then yet there's this audio file with George Knapper
interviewing DeLong like saying that he met him in the
back of like a restaurant for two hours. Yeah, just
like talking about UFOs and aliens.
Speaker 5: Like what Martin, Like what are we? What is going on?
Like this is crazy?
Speaker 1: Yes, So I have an announcement to Nate to make
to everyone, because tonight I was going to have James
Fox was going to be on just for you know.
I said, hey, James, just come on for like fifteen minutes. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
he was come on a bit yet. So he just
called me. He's calling himself a horrible friend, which he's not.
He's a He's a really great guy and he's always
forgiven because he's a very busy guy. He's on his
way to dinner with his with his family at to
a house and Vermont where he lives, and he can't
make it tonight. And what he was going to be
talking about was the film that was the film clip
that came out. He's got a lot to say about it.
That came out recently. It was a Jesse Michaels video
and someone had, you know, a copy of it, and
James has been trying to get that forever because he
says the most profound thing, most believable UFO video that
he's ever seen, you know, so anyway, but James said,
I have something much bigger than that to talk about,
and he says, you can you can announce this, he says,
mark my words, everybody is going to know about what
I have to talk about. So I said, will you
be able to be on my show within a month
to talk about and he said yes, he said, I'll
be on within a month to talk about whatever it is.
So I'm pretty excited about that. And so I said,
can you give me a hint, you know, because that's
what everyone is thinking right now. Okay, they want to
hint to what this is. So I don't know what
it is because he just said he just could not
write at this point say anything. So I know it's
a real tease. But within the month or even in
this timeslot next month, we will hear from James Fox
about something quote really big. So I'm looking forward to that. Wow,
we can only speculate. Cant about that video, right, it's
not about the video, he said, I have something else basis,
he says, he does have a lot to say about
that video, but he has something else and so and
he's a very busy guy. He's very very well connected,
so I don't doubt him for a moment.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know what he's working on. I
haven't talked to him about that. So hello everyone in chat,
thank you all for being here. And Bobby's here. I
met Bobby back in two thousand and thirteen at a
UFO convention. He was a listener of the show from
the very beginning. Anyway, it's always good to seem he
still hangs out after all these years. Hardon me, So
what are some of the things you find interesting in
this since the last time we met here?
Speaker 2: I feel like there's well, my honest take, and this
might be a little bit pessimistic, but you'll have to
push back on it if you disagree, Martin. But a
lot of times when I see all these headlines coming
out and everything, it kind of makes me wonder, like,
if you zoom out a little bit, historically speaking, is
history just repeating itself all over again? I really hope
this doesn't all just I don't want to damp the
flame on the UFO excitement at all, but a lot
of what I see is just a whole lot of
talking and a whole lot of nothing, And that seems
to be the general theme of things. And I feel
like there's just a lot of mysterious actors in the
sense that are people who have ties to the intelligence community,
but you know, kind of come out halfway. But they're
still you know, they have their oaths to protect the country,
and there's still they still have their security clearances and
all that, all that stuff, and yet we still prop
these people up on pedestals and everything. But I'm just
a little afraid. And then like, haven't you heard, Martin
of that aliens dot gov website that I keep you
I don't know if it's live. Like I just hope Martin,
and I don't want this to happen, but I just
hope it doesn't get built up to this huge like
announcement whatever, just to have it be like another Phoenix
Lights incident when they bring the stuff to blow up
alien doll to the podium at the news conference and
just mock the whole event even though it really happened.
So I just hope it doesn't become a public ridicule campaign,
if you will.
Speaker 1: Yes, and for this question here about David Rush, will
be bringing him up in a moment. But yes, I
understand your feelings, Shack, and having done this a bit
longer than you, I say that there's been a lot
of disappointment and a lot of steps forward and steps back. Yeah,
through the time that I've been involved. And I've been
involved in the topic a short amount of time compared
to a lot of people I know, you know, So
I've only actually been at really looking into fifteen years
when there are people that have been looking into it
for fifty years, you know. And I listened to them
about their circumstances and their thoughts about the topic, feeling
like it's moving forward, and then you know, this breaks
apart or this is a hoax, or this is that,
and so it does happen a lot. But I do
feel like there's more forward momentum than there has been.
This feels different to me, sure, and so I think
we may be we may be seeing some things. So yes,
thank you for your questions, Mandy. We'll get to yours
as well. So let's move on and talk about I
don't have a clip of David Grush, I couldn't find
the exact but what about David Rush's last statement and
Jack you looked into that a little bit. What is
the gist of what he was said in the most
recent interview.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen people highlighting just the fact that he
kind of dropped a timeline on the UFO community, kind
of giving everybody a heads up that he's you know,
speculating or anticipating that a significant escalation and you know,
public disclosure is going to occur within the next two
to six, two to three months this year. So, like
again another common trope and theme within you phology in
the community, you know, having these dates out in the
future where something's gonna gonna happen and then ope, nothing
ever does and then nobody really cares.
Speaker 5: So I hope that is not the case either.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I know we got like what forty
six videos that are probably grainy and blurry and you
can't see anything from it, and there's you know, half
the video is going to be probably edited out so
that you can't do any scientific data analysis on the
video that we get, Like, are any of the maybe
he's talking about those videos that are that we're waiting
to get released from the government.
Speaker 1: Yeah, above the grainy, rainy videos that you know, I mean,
my producer Donna, who you know, said yeah, what if
it's a technology they have that you can't focus and
you know with your iPhone, you know, I mean, what
if it's something they have that they're they're blurring the
videos from their side, which would be interesting.
Speaker 5: It would be yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I uh that was there any other points
that he made that shoot out to you? I know
that I got a bunch of people sending me stuff
that he said you talked about.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm looking at my notes here, Martin as
I'm looking off screen. There was one part that I
thought was interesting, just that he kind of goes over
these main points. I mean, he's gone over them before
in the past. This has been the theme that he's
carried out over the past few years whenever he does speaks.
But even with going back to his original testimony in
front of Congress, just that programs are hidden from the
Senate and House Intelligence and Armed Services Committees through you know,
placemat charts and misleading briefings. Some programs are at the
White House level initiatives and ministally delegated to the d
o D, creating reporting loopholes. I'm trying to think he
talks about I guess specific naming conventions that can be used,
like the Macula constellation being like randomized and rotating schemas
for program titles and events, tracking oversight bodies. I mean,
just some things that I plugged into AI here based
on what Grush had said, it looks like it's spewed out,
like I guess it was discussed where you know, the
program can be somewhat described as like a foreign material
acquisition and exploitation program hidden in plain sight. Basically it
utilizes things like off the books activities where the official
day job of a program serves as a cover for
the actual exploitation of UAP related materials. Again, these are
all things that are common themes that are discussed in
eufology at large. It's really nothing new here bypassing specific
oversight corporate involvement, I guess something how like back in
two thousand and four, things got moved to private companies
to avoid Fouer requests. I mean, this is all speculation
or hearsay. I don't know. I don't know proof was
provided for any of these kind of statements. But those
are just some of the things that he that he
I think was discussed in his interview at least at
a high level. But I think the main takeaway was
just that sixty to ninety day deadline was given for
when quote unquote disclosure for UFOs will escalate. Whatever that means,
I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Wendy has this for us, and I am
not familiar. Mindy. I have to tell you, I don't
follow Jeremy or George all that closely. So are you
familiar with us? See Sleeping Dog documentary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen some people talk about it, Patrick over
at Vetted, and I've seen clips of the trailer. Patrick's
always saying production value wise, it looks amazing. But apparently
I guess Jeremy's going to be releasing some new UFO
information or something that he has in his film. So
I guess he's just waiting to release that info until
his film comes out. But I think that's basically the
gist that I got. But it seems like very well
put together. I think it basically goes follows Jeremy along
in his journey following and reporting on the UFO topic
at large.
Speaker 1: Oh, Jeremy follows himself around in his own documentaries. They're
always him everywhere. Well, that should be interesting, maybe he's
not on the cell phone in this one, but yes,
I'm teasing him a little bit. So that's interesting. You're right,
there is a lot of information to take in and
he's going to be out. I believe they're going to
be screening that film or one of their documentaries out
there at Contact in the Desert World. I'll be in
a couple of weeks, so yeah, I'll check it out
while while I'm there. So I want to talk about this.
Someone sent me this.
Speaker 2: Well before you get to that, Martin. Speaking of films,
one other film, your friend Dean Alioto, he has his
film coming out with Experiencers.
Speaker 5: Do you know that's right?
Speaker 1: Is he premiering it at.
Speaker 2: Because I really want to watch that one, Like that's
that's what like if there was one UFO filmy besides
the Spielberg one coming out, But that's more like for entertainment.
But Dean's films more it seems a little bit more
taking the topic seriously and interviewing those experiencers.
Speaker 5: Because I'm excited for that one. I think it's going
to be.
Speaker 1: He has and he worked on that a very long time.
I talked to for the years as he's been working
on that and yeah, I'm excited to see that too.
The other ones that he's put out recently, Yeah, yeah,
should be really good. That's going to be out of
Contact of the Desert as well, and I'm gonna be
sitting right right with him on that one, and should
be a lot of fun to see. So this clip
I'm going to play here, I have a choice to
make a couple of different clips. Do we want to
go with an angry situation and get it over with,
or do we want to talk about Obama again? Or yourshell?
You put all right? All right, let's just get this
out of the way, because I thought this was pretty interesting.
So Stephen green Street, who everyone knows that pays attention
to the UFO topic, He's not he's a lot of
what he says. I heard him on it recently. He
didn't sound he sounded a little softer than he usually
does as far as the trying to bunk everything. But anyway,
he played this clip on Twitter and and it's basically
Tim Galadette, former rear retired Rear Admiral Tim Galadett is
calling Sean kirk Patrick, former director of Arrow Out, and
so they're both calling each other liars. I thought it
was kind of interesting.
Speaker 5: Plan is yeah, Sean.
Speaker 6: I respect to you. We both have decades of government
service together and intelligence and whatnot.
Speaker 1: D D.
Speaker 6: I'm going to ask you a point blank and put
you on the spot on something. After my twenty twenty
four UAP hearing testimony in front of Congress, you had
tweeted a response about my statement regarding Arrow, where you
said I came and visited Arrow and it was bitter
because I didn't get a job, and that you believe
that was because you didn't hire me because I was
prone to conspiracy theories, and that you check with some
of my bosses on that statement. It's well out there.
You tweeted it, and ultimately you know. I didn't go
visit ERA when you were there. It was after you left.
I was invited by Mike Washell, the Navy intel rep
who asked me to come there, and that's what I
spoke about during my hearing, And of course I didn't
look for a job. He invited me, and for me
to actually go for a GS fourteen job after having
been an under Secretary of Commerce, that's kind of preposterous,
I would say. And at the same time, when you
said you check with my bosses. I had. My bosses
formerly were two two stars, four four stars, and a
secretary of commerce who I've all spoken with, and you
never really checked with them. So ultimately, your statement there
was an outright lie, and I want to ask you
what you have to say about that.
Speaker 7: I'd say it was not an outright lie because Mike
brought you in. You sat in my office and we
had this conversation about.
Speaker 6: You where you're taking that we had left it was phillips.
Speaker 7: And the position you were looking for was an sees posis.
Speaker 6: I was not asking for a position. Remember Mike brought
me then he asked me to come out.
Speaker 8: To shed light on the issue itself.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 5: Well, good point.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 6: Ultimately, so it's really clear that you have been executing
a misinformation disinformation campaign about this. This whole slide captures it,
and I know you can't acknowledge it because you're whoever's whoever,
you're on the payroll. We won't allow you to that's
my statement.
Speaker 7: Okay, Well that's a that's a great statement that has
absolutely enough bearing from reality.
Speaker 1: So yes, okay, wow you believe who to believe?
Speaker 5: Yep?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know think you believe Kirkpatrick. Clearly
he wasn't lying, dude, one thing, so great clip. Glad
you shared it. Going back to real quick to Grush,
I was just looking at the notes here, Martin. The
other thing that I thought is worth mentioning he said
all this in the past, and this isn't new news,
but just the fact that he seems to be playing
the card, or at least he's labeling himself as like
the person who's pro disclosure in the sense that he
wants to get the STEM community involved so that they
can leverage other talents that may not necessarily be within
these special access programs, because we don't want to lose
the race against adversarial nations who also have this you know,
non terrestrial technology or terrestrial wherever they come from. The
other part that was interesting in that Grush clip was
that I guess the US government maintains possession of multiple
more than one, but fewer than one hundred non human
vehicles and associated biologics. I mean, whoa, that's kind of
a lot.
Speaker 9: In there.
Speaker 2: But I just think it's funny whenever these numbers are
thrown out, it's like, where you getting that number?
Speaker 5: From and how do you how do you know? Like
the government is huge?
Speaker 1: But well, well, also you get to think too, if
something you know, what are they allowed to say? I mean,
if right, if he actually knew that information firsthand, is
he allowed to say that, you know? Without Yeah, it
just sounds like pushing it or yeah, you know, or
it would have to be one or two things. He's
really pushing it or it's not exactly true, right, you know,
and I'm not pushing it. Go ahead, Well, I'm not
going to call him, you know. I think he's a
man of integrity. I don't think you intentionally lie myself. Yep. So,
I mean that's just my opinion, but it's it is
really puzzling when he could come out, you know and
say something like that.
Speaker 5: Right, So for sure my view on it too, Martin.
Speaker 2: Is the way I look at it is we have
this like social creation in our world, in our timeline
that we live in, this which we would call like
the government. I don't want to get too heady here,
but governments like they're the only ones who can enforce
violence on their own citizens where it's legally allowed. They're
the only ones who can print money without actually having
to earn it. They can just print it out of
thin air and inflate their own currencies, whereas like you,
people like you and me have to work to get money.
We can't just create more of it. So they have
a bunch of the government. This creation that we have
that we've made as humans have like gone on for
three five thousand years whatever. We have this thing called
government that we govern ourselves with. But they have all
the power. So whenever it comes to UFO, it's like
so blatantly obvious the amount of secrecy that's involved on
the topic. It's kind of laughable at this point. But
at the same time, if you're going to get any
kind of answers, we really have no choice but just
to you know, drink whatever they're offering us at the bar,
like for a story, which kind of stinks. We're kind
of at a loss, but that's just kind of my
view on it.
Speaker 1: What do you think, Yeah, I mean, will I think
it's a wait and see again. You know, maybe what
Grush said there's some truth to it, maybe, and maybe
there will be something more within thirty days. Everyone a
few years ago was talking about twenty twenty seven, which
is you know, we're knocking on the door of that
pretty soon. So I'm just going to pop up a
couple of things here. I stand in this. I don't
think NHI know who its creators are. They are searching
for answers just like us, even though they civilizations are older.
It's very possible. That's an interesting statement. And Christopher Alexander,
have you heard of the megature pastor who's claiming that
Trump advised him to prepare his congregation. Yes, I'm going
to play a clip on that, and I also play
that right now. Yeah, and we'll discuss that. So this
is a two minute clip from Perry Stone, pastor Perry Stone,
who I actually got in contact with his assistant and
trying to get him to talk. We have a conversation
going through email, and we'll see what happens with that.
Here he is.
Speaker 10: I had a friend that sent me a text message.
I was in a meeting, a weekend meeting preaching Friday,
Saturday and Sunday morning, and he said, Perry, can you
give me a call? I have some information that has
come to my attention. Of course, when a friend of
yours does that that you know quite well, you're not
you have no idea what information they're talking about. And
I'm not going to go into great detail, but there
were a large number of pastors that had been invited
to go to a certain state to hear some men
in the United States government and others share with them
a concern that they had, and this particular.
Speaker 1: Man, I'll not name him, and then.
Speaker 10: We may end up doing some teachings with him or
having an event at.
Speaker 9: His church as a great church.
Speaker 10: But he said, Perry, what they're about to release from
what we're hearing, there's going to be a release concerning
aliens and concerning uh unidentified flying object spacecraft that some
of the people who.
Speaker 9: Were in the meeting were.
Speaker 10: Telling us as pastors, you need to prepare your people
and you need to get ready to end them for
what you're about to hear being released. And some of
it has to do with crafts that have been discovered
that are not allegedly a part of our planet, and
the materials they're made of.
Speaker 9: Are not a part of our planet.
Speaker 10: Very strange reptilian looking creatures and other things that almost
sound like something out of a sci fi movie or
an Orson Wells book.
Speaker 1: Right. Wow, So now there is a follow up to
that and Patrick over vetted.
Speaker 5: I just you say reptilians.
Speaker 1: He did say reptilians.
Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, I got a lot out there.
Speaker 1: That's that's kind of far out there. And anyway, I
wanted to get him on to talk to him more
about that expand more of what he knows what. But
you you know, just before we went live, you had
mentioned about Patrick had vetted, and I'm gonna see if
I can find that clip and put it up, But
I don't think I can. I lost that when the
crash happened. But what was that that that person said
you're talking about me? I mean I can, we can
move on and I can try to find it, but
I just don't have a right handy right now.
Speaker 5: Can you open up the private chat mayin?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I could do that, all right, all right? But meanwhile,
do you have something you can talk about why I
try to look for that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean the Barack Obama clip that we haven't played
yet is going to be fantastic. I mean, I, for one,
I thought that was kind of funny. He's basically making
a joke of the whole thing, which is funny, yeah
as well, But but then at the same time he
jokingly puts his name in the hat to be the
ambassador for not just the United States.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but for the whole planet. I mean it was good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me see if I think I did find it.
And I think it is at twenty one minutes you
told me, right.
Speaker 2: Isn't it like nineteen thirty three? All right, I forget
the timestamp. Chat if you know, all right, it's on
that It's channel yep.
Speaker 1: And I'll use that. Patrick always runs my clips on
my channel on his channel all the time, so I
will just tell him that I'm going to run this
one and I'm almost there, and hopefully we will not
have a big crash once again when I try it.
Speaker 2: Don't risk it if you think it's going to mess
it up, Martin. I mean, we can just talk about
it basically.
Speaker 5: Just let me know. I'll give a quick recap.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, I see where it is. I'm going
to give it a shot and uh.
Speaker 2: Okay, of life, you know, of life?
Speaker 1: Here we go, chat yep, Okay, clear.
Speaker 11: These are legit true men of God that are still
connected to Washington and even this current administration and all
branches of military, and they literally told us we had
a sitting congressman, a very well known congressman from Missouri.
He was he called in that meeting as well. It
was just the pastors, and this is what he said
on speakerphone. This sitting powerful member of Congress said, are
the pastors listening to me? I'm getting chills right now
because this happened to me. He said, are the pastors
in the room listening to me? And I said, yes, sir,
we are here. And he said, listen to me. Go
tell the church. They are not ready for what is coming.
The narrative that is coming. What they are going to
say is going to be nothing you can even imagine
preparing Ella. They are from another dimension, that they are
our creator, and that these beings, these aliens or whatever
you want to call them, they were the ones that
seated us here. There is no such thing as God.
Jesus was invented by them. The Bible was invented by them.
And begin to just say, listen, prepare the people for
what is coming because they're not ready.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So that was yo, Martin, we got to prepare.
Speaker 9: Up.
Speaker 5: Can't hear your mind? And you're muted. You're muted, You're muted. Yep,
you got.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I didn't want the feedback. Yeah, so
that pretty interesting.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah and he was so I guess yeah, Representative
Burlson didn't say all that stuff.
Speaker 5: It was just this reverend's opinion. Apparently.
Speaker 1: Oh so he did he actually walk it back?
Speaker 5: He did.
Speaker 1: That's someone threatened his life. I'll start conspiracy right here, right, Yeah,
it was the Reptilians.
Speaker 5: It's all their fall.
Speaker 1: Yep, they did it. Yeah. Well, it's all interesting, and
I think it's interesting that if this isn't really happening,
that it's really interesting that this segment of society, pastors, etc.
Are talking about it.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 5: True, that's a good point. Yep.
Speaker 1: It's definitely different than anything I've ever seen. Yes, yes, okay, yeah,
we don't have a lot of time left. Actually it's
flown by quite fast. So I'm going to play this
clip here of former President Obama and it's with a
Stephen Colbert and this interview, and it might be disappointed
to some, but here we go.
Speaker 12: Earlier this year, you said of aliens, yes, quote they're real,
but I haven't seen them.
Speaker 9: Then you tried to walk get back the next day.
Speaker 12: You know, no one believed you, right, because that first
one had the ring of truth.
Speaker 9: It was just a guy just letting it finally let
it out.
Speaker 12: And then the next day you're like, well, what I
meant was I'm sure that somewhere out there, given the infinite,
you know, nature of the universe and the built no
one buys that.
Speaker 9: Just come clean, man, you.
Speaker 12: Don't want to tarnish a reputation for just like Frankness,
it's honesty at this point of your career.
Speaker 9: Oh lord sir at long last, won't you.
Speaker 8: I thought it was so obvious what I meant.
Speaker 12: Huh, Yes, Oh, it was obvious what you meant, and
we all got the message.
Speaker 8: Here's the thing, uh huh. For those of you who
still think that, you know, we've got little green men
underground somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 8: One of the things you learn as president, yes, is
government is terrible at keeping secrets. This idea of conspiracy theories.
If if there were aliens or aliens, spaceships or anything
under the control of the United States Government that we
knew about seeing photographs, what have you. I promise you
some guide guarding the installation would have taken a selfie
with one of the aliens and send it to his
girlfriend and press him.
Speaker 12: It would there be like hints, there'd be like certain
hints out there, like a presidential center would look like
a scout ship that's just come down from low orbit
in landing in Chicago.
Speaker 9: That would happen. It could happen, And do you wish
they were real? I actually do.
Speaker 8: All right, I'm putting in a plug now, Okay, first contact.
I think I would be a good emissary for for the.
Speaker 9: Plant he's got those, aren't man?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I know I've got a diverse background,
some experience in state craft and diplomacy. I'm friendly. Thank so,
I actually think, uh, you know, I could do a
pretty good job.
Speaker 9: All right, So good pitch. Yeah, we will keep that
in mind. Thank you so much. But it hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 12: Okay, great, all right, and we have your phone number
here on the resume. Thank you so much. Very impressive.
Speaker 9: Good.
Speaker 1: He's so funny, both of them are, so you know,
I got to I got to push back a little
bit on that because and it's it's not I'm not
the first one saying it. Stanton Friedman used to always
say that the excuse was that the government couldn't keep secrets,
and he said, well, what about the Manhattan Project. You
know there was half a million people involved in that,
you know, you know, not at the same time, but
you know, peak peak there was one hundred and fifty
thousand people working on that at the same time, and
the secret never got out. So that's you know, that's
that was Stanton Freeman's argument, you know, when it when
it comes to something major like that. So I don't know,
I don't know what to think about the clip. I
know that we talked about it before. My friend Ben
Hansen did an analysis of Obama when he was talking
about this before, and the shallow breaths and the the
you could see the the throbbing was picking up fast,
you know, his heartbeat was picking up faster when he
was talking about this. So he definitely thinks that he
knows more than than he's you know, leading that he
does either way. Yeah, yeah, but I still, you know,
I say all the time on the show, I don't
think they know everything, and because of that, they can't
you know, say the right things for us to feel comfortable,
you know, basically, bottom line, that's my thought.
Speaker 5: I think it's just about control.
Speaker 2: They might have to they might end up losing control,
so they don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a good point. Well, I think we
better call it a night and for everyone to jump
on over to our next show, which comes up in
fifteen minutes with Bogner, Kanor and Dean Aliotto. And thank
you very.
Speaker 2: Much, Shaq, Yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Yes, and thank you all for being here. I appreciate
you all and Chat and your participation and so we'll
see you next in one month. And before that you're
going to be hearing about James Fox on the show
with some big news that he has to share, and
I'm pretty excited about that. But anyway, jump on over
to Bogner and keep your eyes to the sky. Everyone,
Good night Chat