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<v Speaker 1>Bright Time. I was fishing everyone a very happy Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>And thanks again to Dan Carroll for covering for me yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it is a pleasure having him cover and I

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<v Speaker 1>know it is a wonderful job and understanding he had

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation with Brad Winsterp yesterday, so I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to go back and check out that podcast. You can

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<v Speaker 1>find that at fifty five KRC dot com. Also my

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with Christopher Smithman Orlandossanza on at the last hour

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<v Speaker 1>at seven oh five on immigration. And right now it

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<v Speaker 1>is time every Tuesday, at this time we get the

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<v Speaker 1>inside scoop from bright Bart. You got a bookmark at

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<v Speaker 1>Breitbart dot com b R E I T B A

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<v Speaker 1>r T dot com. Great reporting there, most notably by

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<v Speaker 1>Joel Pollock, who's return of the program to help us

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<v Speaker 1>unfold the fall of the shar Ali sade in Syria.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome Joel in a very happy Tuesday. Tell you good

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<v Speaker 1>to heavy back on great with very complicated situation unfolding

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<v Speaker 1>in Syria. It's like the fall of the Berlin Wall.

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<v Speaker 1>What's next? Bscharlisad, obviously an extremely violent and murderous individual,

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<v Speaker 1>has been involved in a civil war in his country

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<v Speaker 1>now for going on thirteen years. It seems like there's

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<v Speaker 1>multiple factions that have been fighting against them, and it

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<v Speaker 1>looks to be like one of those the enemy of

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<v Speaker 1>my enemy is my friend. So while you had everyone

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<v Speaker 1>sort of uniformly going after Basharlasad and fighting him and

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<v Speaker 1>his collectives, backed by Iran and Russia, looks like Iran

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<v Speaker 1>and Russia both kind of pulled the plug on their

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<v Speaker 1>support and that led to the almost immediate fall of Basharlisad.

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<v Speaker 1>He apparently has now fled to Russia, who's giving him

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<v Speaker 1>a sanctuary. But what becomes of Syria now that these

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<v Speaker 1>multiple factions are now seemingly left sort of in charge.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a while to work this all out, Joel.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Syria is a disaster. It's going to continue to

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<v Speaker 2>be a disaster, but at least it won't be a

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<v Speaker 2>disaster that helps Iran. And what's been happening over the

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<v Speaker 2>last forty eight hours since the Assad regime fell has

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<v Speaker 2>been a number of things. First of all, you've got

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<v Speaker 2>the rebels trying to consolidate power, and they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>Assad's prisons. They're opening them, emptying them. Political prisoners are

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<v Speaker 2>being released. This is the part that people are celebrating

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<v Speaker 2>because Assad ran these torture prisons. There are Lebanese Christians

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<v Speaker 2>who were imprisoned in Assad's jails for decades after being

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<v Speaker 2>arrested in Lebanon for activism against Syria, because the Syrian

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<v Speaker 2>regime occupied Lebanon for a long time. So there are

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<v Speaker 2>some scenes of rejoicing and so forth. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>there are reports of attacks and atrocities and other incidents happening,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in the minority communities in Syria. The Asad regime

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<v Speaker 2>was terrible for everybody, but he posed as a protector

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<v Speaker 2>of Christians and other minorities. He himself was not a Muslim.

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<v Speaker 2>He was from a minority sect called the Alowhites, who

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<v Speaker 2>lived primarily on the coast. So the Syrian regime said

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<v Speaker 2>that it protected minorities. Of course, as I mentioned earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>they imprisoned Lebanese Christians and were certainly not kind to

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<v Speaker 2>the Jewish minority in Syria which fled, but there have

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<v Speaker 2>been a lot of concerns about the fate of the Kourds,

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<v Speaker 2>the Christians and the Alohites and so forth. And then

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<v Speaker 2>you've got Israel, which is using the vacuum of power

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<v Speaker 2>in Syria to destroy whatever is left of the Syrian military.

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<v Speaker 2>Israel has been conducting hundreds of air raids every day.

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<v Speaker 2>According to reports, the flight of F fifteen aircraft is

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<v Speaker 2>just constant over Israel, as the Israeli Air Force takes

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<v Speaker 2>off almost as soon as it lands to go bomb

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<v Speaker 2>something else in Syria, avoiding civilians, which is why you're

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<v Speaker 2>not hearing about civilian casualties in Israeli bombing. They're even

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<v Speaker 2>avoiding the rebels. They're not avoiding they're not attacking the

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<v Speaker 2>rebel military. They're not attacking troops, but they are attacking

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<v Speaker 2>equipment and they're attacking chemical weapons production facilities. So what

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing is they're removing any threats that the rebels

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<v Speaker 2>might be able to get these weapons into their hands,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're also removing any air defenses that Syria might

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<v Speaker 2>use to defend Iran from a potential strike on Iran's

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear program. There is a possibility that given that there

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<v Speaker 2>are only about five weeks left, but before President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>takes office five or six weeks that Israel may use

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<v Speaker 2>that period to knock out Iran's nuclear program. Iran is

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<v Speaker 2>now defenseless. They've lost Hesbala, They've lost Syria, They've lost

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<v Speaker 2>Hamas after starting a war with Israel on October seventh

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<v Speaker 2>last year through Hamas. So Israel is now going to

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<v Speaker 2>take the opportunity to make sure that Iran can never

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<v Speaker 2>become a nuclear power. Potentially, but Iran has no air

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<v Speaker 2>defenses and now it has no advanced warning. In Syria,

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<v Speaker 2>the Israeli Air Force dominates the Syrian skies and will

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<v Speaker 2>do so for the foreseeable future. I'll tell you something

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting. Less than three weeks ago, I was in

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<v Speaker 2>Israel and I was standing on the slopes of a

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<v Speaker 2>mountain called Mount Ramon. There are two mountains in northeastern Israel,

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<v Speaker 2>and the goal on heights. One is called Carmon. One

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<v Speaker 2>is called Hard Dove or Mountain Dove. Mountain Dove is

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<v Speaker 2>a flashpoint between Israel and Hesbola had been attacking places

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<v Speaker 2>on Mountain Dove, and in fact, a couple days after

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<v Speaker 2>I was there, there was a drone attack on the

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<v Speaker 2>troops that I had been with. But Mount Caramone is

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<v Speaker 2>an even higher peak. The Israelis have a military base

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<v Speaker 2>on the side of Mount Carmon, and the Syrians for

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<v Speaker 2>over fifty years had a military base on the top

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<v Speaker 2>on the very peak, So the top of Mount Cremone

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<v Speaker 2>was Syrian on. That was under an agreement to end

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen seventy three war that Syria started with Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>On Sunday, the Israeli special forces took the peak of

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<v Speaker 2>the mountain, and the Israelis now take They now occupy

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<v Speaker 2>the peak of Mount Armon, So the Israelis have that

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<v Speaker 2>peak of the mountain that I was standing on. I

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<v Speaker 2>was just on the on the side near the peak,

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<v Speaker 2>but not at the top. So now they have that mountain,

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<v Speaker 2>which is crucial for Israel's defense against drones and rockets

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<v Speaker 2>and so forth flying in from Lebanon and from other places.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think the israel Is going to give

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<v Speaker 2>back that territory.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, they will. If I had to make a prediction,

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<v Speaker 1>I put it all in on them keeping the entire

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<v Speaker 1>to the goal on heights that is strategically, that's why

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<v Speaker 1>Israel needs it because it looks down over the country

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<v Speaker 1>and it represents an easy opportunity for anybody with rockets

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<v Speaker 1>military base up there to launch an attack on Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>So the strategic significance cannot be understated. But let me

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<v Speaker 1>let me ask you this. I've been kind of puzzling

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<v Speaker 1>over this and just wanted to get your reaction, Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Pollock Head. The Iranians not and I presume on some

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<v Speaker 1>level the Iranians approve the attack coming out of the

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<v Speaker 1>of Gods on Israel. Had that October attack not occurred,

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<v Speaker 1>would this situation be where we are today in Syria? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>did they undermine the day?

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't have because the October seventh attack prompted Israel to

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<v Speaker 2>respond by declaring that this would never be able to

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<v Speaker 2>happen again. In order to do that, Israel had to

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<v Speaker 2>take out the threats on its borders. So no one

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<v Speaker 2>would like to say that the October seventh attack was

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<v Speaker 2>a good thing, but it did force the issue. I

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<v Speaker 2>will say this also, it wasn't necessary that things happened

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<v Speaker 2>in precisely the way they did. But had the Biden

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<v Speaker 2>Harrison administration been stronger in its response, had they allowed

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<v Speaker 2>Israel to do what it needed to do. Had they

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<v Speaker 2>also put pressure on Iran instead of sending billions of

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<v Speaker 2>dollars to Iran, then October seventh itself might never have happened.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know how much further fact do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to go? But you know, this wouldn't have happened and

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<v Speaker 2>didn't happen under Donald Trump. Not that aside, again would

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<v Speaker 2>have been good to keep in power either. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>that what happened here was the Uranian regime was able

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<v Speaker 2>to do whatever it wanted to do because the Biden

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<v Speaker 2>Harris administration allowed it to. And the only reason that

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<v Speaker 2>you're seeing has Wella defeated and the Syrian regime collapsing

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<v Speaker 2>is because the ordinary Israeli decided they were never going

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<v Speaker 2>to allow this to happen again. It wasn't like Nishennawu decided.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, when I was in Israel and October twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three, just after the October seventh attack, I talked

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<v Speaker 2>to people who were joining their reserve units going to

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<v Speaker 2>the military after the call up. They were preparing to

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<v Speaker 2>go into Gaza, and the determination of the Israeli people

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure Hamas could never harm them again was

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<v Speaker 2>so strong that if they didn't invade Gaza, and remember

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<v Speaker 2>they hadn't gone in at that point, they didn't in

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<v Speaker 2>vague Gaza. I felt like the army would have turned around,

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<v Speaker 2>gone back to Jerusalem, overthrown Nitsa Yahoo, and then gone

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<v Speaker 2>into Gaza. But yeah, the Israeli people keep in mind

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<v Speaker 2>also who's fighting in these wars. So Israel has a

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<v Speaker 2>very small, regular professional army. It's an army of conscripts.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody goes. To call it an army of conscripts is

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<v Speaker 2>to belittle the enthusiasm with which Israelis go to the military.

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<v Speaker 2>Aside from religious Israelis and a few others, many Israelis

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<v Speaker 2>are very pleased to go to the military. They're drafted,

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<v Speaker 2>they have to go, but they're very excited to go.

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<v Speaker 2>And people serve in the reserve units until their mid forties.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of the fighting right now is being

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<v Speaker 2>done by dads with small children, who have jobs and careers,

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<v Speaker 2>and some of them even live overseas. They may be

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<v Speaker 2>working in the United States and Europe. They get the

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<v Speaker 2>call up, they go home, and they leave their families

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<v Speaker 2>for months at a time. Those are the men and

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes women who have won the war. They are just

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<v Speaker 2>determined never to allow the situation to happen again. So

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<v Speaker 2>the face of the Middle East has really been changed,

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<v Speaker 2>not firecturbery seventh necessarily, but by the sheer determination of

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<v Speaker 2>the Israeli people to survive and to make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>they can never be attacked again.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I certainly understand that and is an amazing

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<v Speaker 1>thing to behold. I guess in many respects, I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of think about like the Ukrainians and they've called up

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<v Speaker 1>and got literally every person who's still alive to join

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<v Speaker 1>the army to try to defend the country with obviously

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<v Speaker 1>not a whole lot of success right now. But moving

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<v Speaker 1>back over to Israel and the situation in Syria, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>wondering how much influence we have, the Turkish influence, because

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<v Speaker 1>they have a vested interest in making sure their border

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<v Speaker 1>with Syria is secure, and maybe whatever future administration runs Syria,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to have some involvement with it. Iranians look

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<v Speaker 1>like they're completely out of it. The Russians looks like

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<v Speaker 1>they're completely out of it. I guess I just wonder,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what future lies in store for Syria because

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<v Speaker 1>these rebel forces, lot of Islamic fundamentalists in there, which

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<v Speaker 1>is not a good thing for Israel and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the other countries that are surrounding it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we don't know what the future is to Syria.

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<v Speaker 2>The likeliest future is that it remains a disunited, divided place.

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<v Speaker 2>The Turks are going to probably take some kind of

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<v Speaker 2>territory that they want to come to the Kurt. The

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<v Speaker 2>Israelis have moved their military, as I said, onto the

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<v Speaker 2>peak of the mountain and the buffer zone that used

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<v Speaker 2>to exist between Israel and Syria because they need to

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<v Speaker 2>protect themselves against the rebels. And who knows whether this

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<v Speaker 2>Islamist ragtag bunch can administer the country. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 2>you had to make a prediction, you would probably predict

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<v Speaker 2>that it ends up in civil war for quite some time,

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<v Speaker 2>because there are a variety of factions there. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know the problem is, I mean this morning's headline

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<v Speaker 2>in political the Biden Harris administration is thinking of changing

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<v Speaker 2>the terrorist designation the group that actually overthrew the regime

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<v Speaker 2>or the rebel group that led the rebellion. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a terrible idea. The same mistake they made

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<v Speaker 2>with the hutis the fact that they want a country

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't make them any less terrorists. You know these people.

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<v Speaker 2>The leader is a guy named al Jabulani, which in

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<v Speaker 2>Hebrew is al Golani. But he wasn't even born in Syria,

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<v Speaker 2>but his parents are Syrian and he traces his roots.

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<v Speaker 2>He says to the Golan, which tells you he's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to stop at Damascus. He wants to take the

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<v Speaker 2>Golan back from Israel, which Israel will never give back

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<v Speaker 2>because it is such an important strategic territory. So the

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<v Speaker 2>rebels clearly are trying to cause trouble. It's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a mass in Syria for quite some time. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it troubles me that the first instinct of

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<v Speaker 2>the US under Democratic Party rule is to throw a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of money at them and hope it helps them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, who will be arming this dysfunctional, disparate, ragtag group

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<v Speaker 1>of various factstions. I mean again, I just I sort

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<v Speaker 1>of maybe overstating the case. Iranian pulled, the Iranians pull

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<v Speaker 1>the plug. The Russians pulled the plug. They were You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in large part responsible for a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>arms and weapons shipping in If the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>world just just says, hey, you know, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to give any weapons of the Syrian rebels,

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<v Speaker 1>and that would just be the end of it, wouldn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>They couldn't launch any major offensive against Israel, or take

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<v Speaker 1>back the goal on Heights, or fight off the Turks,

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<v Speaker 1>as the case may be. They would just be a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a dysfunctional, impoverished third world country, wouldn't they.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the Turks are very much involved there. The Turks

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<v Speaker 2>are probably going to make sure that these rebels continue

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<v Speaker 2>to receive arms. Really we need to reevaluate, Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>need to reevaluate our relationship with Turkey. They have been

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<v Speaker 2>supportive of Sunni terrorism, particularly against Israel. They have hosted

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<v Speaker 2>the Hamas leaders, they have given rhetorical supports and other

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<v Speaker 2>forms of support to Hamas, and they're also behind the

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<v Speaker 2>Syrian rebels. You know, Yes, Israel destroyed has Bola, leaving

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<v Speaker 2>the Asad regime defenseless. And that's not why Israel did it.

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<v Speaker 2>Israel did it because Hesbola attacked it, right, But but

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<v Speaker 2>it's also the fact that the Syrian rebels got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of help from the Turks and that Airdwon sees

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<v Speaker 2>himself as a leader of a Sunni Islamist revival, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Turks may be involved in Syria in a very

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<v Speaker 2>deep and nefarious way. So you know, that's why Israel

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<v Speaker 2>is basically taking a buffer zone, even though you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the odd thing is that Israel and Turkey until Airedione,

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<v Speaker 2>were actually good allies. But Airedwan, because he's an Islamist,

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<v Speaker 2>does not want to work and play nicely with Israel,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's basically making advances in Syria. The United States

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<v Speaker 2>has interests there. We have troops there to counter ISIS,

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<v Speaker 2>but there are some ISIS branches that are involved in

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<v Speaker 2>the Syrian rebels, so we're probably going to have to

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<v Speaker 2>maintain some presence there. Trump may say he wants to

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<v Speaker 2>pull them out. That could happen, but then what happens

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<v Speaker 2>to the Kurage, who have been our allies against ISIS.

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<v Speaker 2>So look, it's going to be a mess. The only

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<v Speaker 2>thing I can tell you is that Iran has lost.

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<v Speaker 2>Iran has lost the most important forward buffer and staging

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<v Speaker 2>base that it had for its terrorist operations. The Iranian

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<v Speaker 2>regime is very, very vulnerable. The Iranian people are great

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<v Speaker 2>friends of America, and it would be incredible if the

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<v Speaker 2>regime would somehow disappear and a new pro Western government

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<v Speaker 2>would take over in Iran. Then we'd have a real

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<v Speaker 2>ally there to help counter the threats that might emerge

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<v Speaker 2>from disorganized Syria. But we'll see. For the meantime, Israel

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<v Speaker 2>is destroying whatever military assets the rebels might have hoped

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<v Speaker 2>to get their hands on, and we'll just have to see.

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<v Speaker 2>The Biden administration again, of course, is trying to shovel

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<v Speaker 2>money at them. You know, if humanitarian aid, let's get

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<v Speaker 2>some eight. You know, this is the same mistake they

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<v Speaker 2>made with the UTIs. They took the uties off the

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<v Speaker 2>terroorri lists so they could send Yemen a bunch of money,

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<v Speaker 2>and look what happened. People like you were screaming, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't do this, you can't do this. We've got a

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<v Speaker 2>US Navy base across the Strait from yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know they're gonna and of course they disrupted international shipping

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<v Speaker 2>and continue to do so. So you know, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>sense of reality among the bureaucratsy staff these Democratic party administrations.

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<v Speaker 2>But we'll have to just see.

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<v Speaker 1>Really makes you wonder why ultimately, Joel Paulocke Brightbart dot

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<v Speaker 1>Com book market, Joel, I love having you on the program.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate your thoughtful insight and we all have our

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<v Speaker 1>you know, metaphorical popcorn out as we wait to see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens in Syria. We'll talk again real soon and

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<v Speaker 1>keep up the great.

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<v Speaker 2>Work at Breitbart, all right, thanks so much.

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