WEBVTT 1 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:19.679 The North Pole and South Pole. 2 00:00:20.399 --> 00:00:24.600 Here's already unexplored land left on this Earth that might 3 00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:26.800 appeal to adventurous young Americans. 4 00:00:27.039 --> 00:00:29.640 Ah, yes, it really is. And not up around the 5 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:32.600 North Pole because it's getting crowded up there now because 6 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:35.719 they find out it's really usable not only to live 7 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:40.759 in but militarily. But strangely enough, as left in the 8 00:00:40.759 --> 00:00:43.759 world today, an area as big as the United States 9 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:48.320 that's never been seen by human being, and that's beyond 10 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:50.640 the Pole on the other side of the South Pole 11 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:56.640 from Middle America, and it's I think it's quite astonishing 12 00:00:57.840 --> 00:00:59.520 that they should be an area as big as that 13 00:00:59.640 --> 00:01:02.600 unexplow that's a tremendous Well, there's a lot of adventure 14 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:04.840 left down at the bottom of the world. What well 15 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:05.719 do you hope to see that? 16 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:06.560 I do? 17 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:09.719 What animal would you say that this that you've been 18 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:12.719 to both the extremities of Earth. Are these expeditions to 19 00:01:13.040 --> 00:01:16.760 such far up places they're getting easier because of modern 20 00:01:16.840 --> 00:01:19.560 techniques or still is danger still close at hand? 21 00:01:20.120 --> 00:01:23.120 Well, it's a little risky, but nothing like it used 22 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:26.480 to be with the old slow planes and the small 23 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:30.000 cruising radius where we had to put down bases. We 24 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:33.599 replaced the dog teams, and of course it was a 25 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:37.879 big improvement. But now the planes go much faster, and 26 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:41.079 they are safer, and they have a much bigger cruising radius. 27 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:43.799 You haven't got the danger of a terribly heavy load. 28 00:01:44.959 --> 00:01:48.920 Admirable. An expedition to which I believe you're the advisor, 29 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:54.200 is now en routed. What is that expedition doing. Well, 30 00:01:54.280 --> 00:01:59.760 that's the Icebreaker ETCA, and it's a reconnaissance Expedition's going 31 00:01:59.799 --> 00:02:04.120 down into the South Pole area to make certain observations 32 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:08.199 and to look for some bases. They will be back 33 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:11.039 in April and they will report back and upon the 34 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:16.639 information we get from that undertaking, we will base the 35 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:21.120 bigger expedition that's to follow. 36 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:25.520 That's a recording from nineteen fifty four of Admiral Richard 37 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:31.599 Byrd and he was being asked about his exploration of Antarctica. 38 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:36.479 That interview goes on to record some of his strange, 39 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:42.240 strange observations of that part of the world. Hey, this 40 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:45.199 is Cliff your host of Earth Ancients, and this week 41 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:49.240 we're interviewing a author who has written really the only 42 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:54.639 book on Antarctica to come out in the last decade, 43 00:02:54.680 --> 00:02:57.159 and that's Brad Olsen and his new book is The 44 00:02:57.199 --> 00:03:01.360 Secrets of Antarctica, and this is really the first time 45 00:03:01.400 --> 00:03:05.439 we hear and we read about the evidence for not 46 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:11.360 only anomalies possible ancient civilizations that may have been on 47 00:03:11.439 --> 00:03:17.680 that continent, but also the discoveries of not only ruins, 48 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:25.240 but artificial landscapes, UFOs, UAPs and strange interactions with what 49 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:28.680 looks like a lost civilization. I've been waiting for a 50 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:31.599 book like this for a while. Linda Moulton Howe has 51 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:35.159 been one who has spoke a great deal at conferences 52 00:03:35.199 --> 00:03:42.479 about her discoveries of strangeness and Antarctica, but really Brad's 53 00:03:42.520 --> 00:03:45.080 the only one who's bringing it out in this book. 54 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:46.879 And I got to tell you, I had a chance 55 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:49.280 to look at the book. It's coming out in a 56 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:52.360 couple of weeks, and it's a good one. It not 57 00:03:52.439 --> 00:03:57.840 only covers and shows through photographic evidence, a great deal 58 00:03:57.919 --> 00:04:02.919 of archaeological rule one that is clustered all over the place. 59 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:06.280 But you got to remember, there's a two mile sheet 60 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:10.560 of ice that covers what looks like the remains of 61 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:17.879 city scapes, roads, and there's even some evidence of activity 62 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:22.519 that has been recorded using not only ground penetrating radar, 63 00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:26.120 but some of the new technology that has been made available, 64 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:28.720 you know, we need to know what's going on here. 65 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:32.639 I mean, if you go to conferences like Contact in 66 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:37.160 the Desert or Cosmic Summit, they have various people who 67 00:04:37.800 --> 00:04:42.839 hear back from the military, people who are retired, who 68 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:48.639 are sworn to secrecy and sign and sign NDA's nondisclosure agreements. 69 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:53.240 Not to talk about Antarctica, but we've heard about Antarctica 70 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:57.600 as far back as the Second World War, when it 71 00:04:57.720 --> 00:05:02.000 was there was evidence that the no Zis were not 72 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:09.439 only spending great resources to head to Antarctica, but also 73 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:13.040 there was a good deal of evidence that they may 74 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:18.000 have met with and brought back information of a lost 75 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:23.560 civilization still active under this great sheet of ice. In fact, 76 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:27.959 we're gonna hear today about a number of submarine expeditions 77 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:34.879 that were later discovered by the Allies when Germany surrendered, 78 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:40.560 And there's tremendous evidence that not only did the Nazis 79 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:45.759 spend a large sum of money, they also apparently established 80 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:50.680 bases in Antarctica. Now this is all very strange. It 81 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:55.240 used to be conjecture, you know, fantastic stories. But as 82 00:05:55.240 --> 00:06:00.519 we'll hear today, this information has been kept under wraps 83 00:06:01.600 --> 00:06:05.759 and years ago when Art bell on Coast to Coast, 84 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:10.480 now it's been takeover with George Norri, there were people 85 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:12.720 who would come forward and say, yeah, I've been there 86 00:06:13.160 --> 00:06:18.800 as a serviceman, or there would be special operatives, intelligence 87 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:25.920 operatives who had processed various types of information. So the 88 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:29.560 biggest element, and we've had a number of people on 89 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:34.160 this program to discuss this, one of the big curiosities 90 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:43.439 is the notion that the continent of Antarctica was once Atlantis. 91 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:48.199 And I mean we've had if you've been following the 92 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:51.759 Er the podcast for a few years, this has been 93 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:54.360 a big one. And we go, we go all the 94 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:57.920 way back to Charles Hapgood in his Crystal displacement theory 95 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:03.759 that the the continent of Atlantis was shifted through horrific 96 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:08.600 land change, and you know, millions of people died, but 97 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:13.240 a number of people survived. And what we have today 98 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:18.399 is a race of beings that are still living in 99 00:07:18.439 --> 00:07:23.399 this place known as Antarctica. So let's talk about today. 100 00:07:23.959 --> 00:07:29.079 I'm excited to bring brad Olsen back. He had talked 101 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:32.720 to us about this book and I was like crossing 102 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:35.439 my fingers, get done so I can have him on 103 00:07:35.480 --> 00:07:39.240 the program. This is a fun interview, a first time 104 00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:45.000 look at some of the intrigue of Antarctica, and we're 105 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:49.319 going to spend the full hour discussing the different layers 106 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:55.040 that have been discussed and reported on for decades. So 107 00:07:55.120 --> 00:08:00.000 today's program is The Secrets of Antarctica, The Untold History 108 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:04.519 Tree of the Ice Continent, and my guest today is author, 109 00:08:04.639 --> 00:08:44.840 research investigator Brad Olsen. The topic of Antarctica has been 110 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:47.480 coming up off and on. Actually it's been around, i'd 111 00:08:47.480 --> 00:08:52.720 say for about a decade or more, everything from UFOs 112 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:59.519 to secret military bases to crustal displacement, and it was 113 00:08:59.559 --> 00:09:03.960 once the home of an ancient civilization, all kinds of possibilities, 114 00:09:04.559 --> 00:09:08.320 but really nobody has covered it in a book until now. 115 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:12.919 My returning guest this week is Brad Olsen. And if 116 00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:16.120 you don't know who Brad is, he's a research investigator. 117 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:22.600 He's done the Sacred books, the sacred travel books, different 118 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:27.200 places around the planet. And this new book is called 119 00:09:27.279 --> 00:09:31.960 Secrets of Antarctica, The Untold History of the Ice Continent, 120 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:34.159 and I got to tell you it's a good one. 121 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:37.840 Not only does he cover all the bases, but he 122 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:42.799 presents it in a way that is compelling and very 123 00:09:42.840 --> 00:09:46.720 well presented. So, Hey, Brad, welcome back to Earth Ancients. Buddy, 124 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:47.279 how you doing. 125 00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:50.480 Hey Cliff, thanks for having me back. It's great to 126 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:53.519 be back on Earth Ancients and we got some ancient 127 00:09:53.639 --> 00:09:55.679 Earth stories. Talk about Antarctica. 128 00:09:55.799 --> 00:09:56.440 Oh my god? 129 00:09:56.519 --> 00:09:57.080 Do we ever? 130 00:09:57.320 --> 00:10:00.000 Hey? I want to start by saying, you actually try 131 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:04.679 travel there in twenty nineteen. How did you get permission? 132 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:07.799 Because I thought it was like restricted to be able 133 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:11.960 to actually travel to the continent. So how have. 134 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:15.240 You set that up? Talk about that January and February 135 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:20.799 on a sailboat and you're allowed to go there. That's 136 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:25.639 one of the misconceptions about Antarctica is that it's totally 137 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:31.320 blocked off and inaccessible. Actually, in the Antarctica Treaty, it 138 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:37.320 stays specifically when it was ratified in the nineteen fifties 139 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:43.240 that this continent would be preserved for science and tourism. 140 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:46.559 But there are places you're not allowed to go to, 141 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:51.000 so it's not completely open. However, we had no problem 142 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:58.000 getting permission through the Argentinian government, most specifically the Navy. 143 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:01.440 We had to go there the day before all fourteen 144 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:04.919 of us on the sailboat had to submit our passport 145 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:10.320 and a travel itinerary, and the captain had to pretty 146 00:11:10.360 --> 00:11:13.559 much go over the logistics about where we were going 147 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:17.080 to be around what dates. We submitted that, and then 148 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:21.399 we went to customs and even though we were stamped 149 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:25.000 in on our passports to Argentina, we got stamped out 150 00:11:25.039 --> 00:11:29.399 again and did not get stamped in anywhere for twenty 151 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:32.320 six days till we got back. So it was kind 152 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:34.279 of a no man's land. And that was about the 153 00:11:34.279 --> 00:11:38.480 only really strange thing about traveling down there is there's 154 00:11:38.600 --> 00:11:45.039 no country that's going to receive you or accept your passport. 155 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:51.559 In fact, it was just a non existent trip as 156 00:11:51.559 --> 00:11:53.639 far as the dates in my passport go. 157 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:58.600 So weird. So was this a brad Olsen sacred esoteric 158 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:00.639 tour that you took. 159 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:05.120 Well, yeah, kind of. I guess all my trips are 160 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:09.559 sacred esoteric tours. So well, this was just to round 161 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:12.440 out the seven continents of the world. And as far 162 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:17.080 as I know, I'm the first researcher in this genre 163 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:20.679 we're in that went down there specifically to look into 164 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:26.480 these big questions that exist, such as are there massive 165 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:36.320 craft underneath the ice? Down there, are there large antidiluvian 166 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:43.080 pyramids or other structures, giants, this and that, and paranormal hotspots. 167 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:49.519 To those questions, I routinely got a big nothing burger. 168 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:53.799 But I did find out other things, such as there 169 00:12:53.799 --> 00:12:59.240 are no fly zones over certain portions of Antarctica and 170 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:03.240 that there was a UFO sighting at another base a 171 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:07.840 few weeks prior. Wow, so there was activity down there. 172 00:13:08.120 --> 00:13:12.080 Yeah. Did you have to submit an itinerary or or 173 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:14.799 do you just get free access when you land on 174 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:15.360 the continent. 175 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:18.600 So basically the way it worked is, yeah, the day 176 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:23.919 before we set sail for twenty six days, we submitted 177 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:26.720 itinerary for the whole group, for the whole boat. I 178 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:31.919 didn't have to do that individually. But then we and 179 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:34.200 it was kind of open ended. If the trip went 180 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:40.159 thirty days or even forty days, it's fine, but just 181 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:43.279 to let them know approximately where we would be on 182 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:45.919 the Palmer Peninsula. And you got to keep in mind 183 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:49.960 cliff Antarctica is huge. Yeah, it is the fifth largest 184 00:13:49.960 --> 00:13:52.840 continent of the world, So the distances are very vast. 185 00:13:53.480 --> 00:13:56.120 In the area that we were sailing in along the 186 00:13:56.159 --> 00:13:58.799 northern tip of the Palmer Peninsula, it is just a 187 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:03.120 small fraction of the total surface area of that continent, 188 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:08.559 and so it's of the tourist corridor to begin with, 189 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:12.960 so they pretty much allow that kind of sailing and 190 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:14.279 trips to go through there. 191 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:18.039 So you were on a boat, but could you have 192 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:22.360 taken say, United Airlines. I hadn't even thought about this. 193 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:27.600 What major airlines fly to Antarctica and what's the major airport? 194 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:29.080 There is none. 195 00:14:29.399 --> 00:14:33.440 There are only military base airstrips. And it is possible 196 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:39.480 to fly from Puentus Arenas, Chile to King George Island 197 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:43.000 and get on a cruise ship from there for people 198 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:47.639 that want to skip the Drake passage, which is notoriously 199 00:14:47.759 --> 00:14:52.320 rough seas, but otherwise no, there are no commercial flights 200 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:56.000 going down there. And that is because in the nineteen seventies, 201 00:14:56.120 --> 00:15:01.519 Air New Zealand was doing flights just to one way 202 00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:06.200 trip to Antarctica, fly over certain areas and then they'd 203 00:15:06.200 --> 00:15:09.720 circle back. They'd only done a half a dozen or 204 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:14.000 so of these sightseeing flights. They weren't even going to 205 00:15:14.080 --> 00:15:18.039 land anywhere in Antarctica. But one of those planes crashed 206 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:23.559 into Mount Arabis and there's still wreckage remains there. And 207 00:15:23.600 --> 00:15:27.639 so ever since then, no commercial flights have gone to Antarctica. 208 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:35.440 And so to my question about itinerary, were you denied 209 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:39.679 access to places that you were wanting to go see. 210 00:15:40.759 --> 00:15:44.159 Not, to my knowledge. Again, the captain was pretty much 211 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:50.159 in charge of submitting our point to point itinerary. But 212 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:54.720 for us on the boat, we could put the dinghy 213 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:58.879 in the water, for example, and drive out to a 214 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:03.519 penguin colony or even over to one of the glaciers 215 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:05.559 and chip off some of the blue ice that we 216 00:16:05.559 --> 00:16:10.879 were putting in our drinks, and it was totally unsupervised 217 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:15.159 and totally open. In fact, the entire twenty six days 218 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:20.440 on this sailboat, we only one time saw a coastguard 219 00:16:20.679 --> 00:16:23.759 type ship, not even a military ship, but way off 220 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:26.639 in the distance. It wasn't looking for us or anything. 221 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:29.480 So we're pretty much on our own the entire trip 222 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:34.559 to execute whatever kind of itinerary and trip we wanted 223 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:34.840 to do. 224 00:16:35.360 --> 00:16:39.480 That's kind of cool. Did you see like big cities 225 00:16:39.720 --> 00:16:45.039 or people and cars and buses like a regular western 226 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:50.639 cultured continent or what did you what did you engage with? 227 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:52.039 Yeah? 228 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:56.039 Yeah, so there is no such thing really as a 229 00:16:56.080 --> 00:17:04.680 city in Antarctica. There are only bases, scientific research bases. Weird, Yeah, 230 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:09.400 and the biggest is the American Mechmurdo. And in the 231 00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:15.200 season which just ended, by the way, now it's a 232 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:18.799 skeleton crew that stays on through the winner. There's only 233 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:21.960 a thousand people on the entire continent over the winner 234 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:26.000 that raises two about thirty thousand on all the bases 235 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:30.079 during the season, which is from middle November until the 236 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:33.839 beginning of March. So now people are leaving end Mass 237 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:40.400 and just the year round skeleton crew remains, so it's 238 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:46.519 just very scantly populated. Then these bases are sometimes hundreds 239 00:17:46.559 --> 00:17:49.440 of miles apart, and even when you get to one 240 00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:51.799 of them, there's maybe a dozen people or so that 241 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:54.759 are living there, so not a lot of people. 242 00:17:55.359 --> 00:17:55.720 Yeah. 243 00:17:56.240 --> 00:17:59.440 You know, it's funny, Brad. When I see pictures of Antarctica, 244 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:04.160 it's always covered with ice. Is that your experience when 245 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:05.680 you were there? It's just everything you can do. 246 00:18:05.880 --> 00:18:07.279 Yeah, it's full of ice. 247 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:13.039 You don't see landscapes of dry land or non ice 248 00:18:13.480 --> 00:18:14.720 land or what what. 249 00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:15.279 Do you see? 250 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:15.880 Yeah? 251 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:20.079 Yeah, the statistics of Antarctica is ninety nine percent covered 252 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:24.359 in ice. And it's very old ice too, because on 253 00:18:24.440 --> 00:18:28.880 the lower levels of that ice is blue ice, and 254 00:18:28.920 --> 00:18:34.759 that's really old. It's beautiful to see. However, there are 255 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:37.880 a few open areas where there is no ice, and 256 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:41.640 they call them the Antarctica oasis. And what that means 257 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:48.440 is usually just by wind, or more commonly that it's 258 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:52.960 geothermically active ground so when it does snow, the snow 259 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:57.720 doesn't stick because the ground is warmer. And we saw 260 00:18:57.839 --> 00:19:02.799 some geothermal activity on Deception Island. Yeah, there was. It's 261 00:19:02.839 --> 00:19:08.880 a giant volcano. We sailed into the caldera, and uh, 262 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:12.200 there was an area we read in the Lonely Planet book. 263 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:17.039 There's a whole Lonely Planet travel guidebook to Antarctica, and 264 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:20.720 it said that there was this hot spring. So myself 265 00:19:20.759 --> 00:19:22.880 and the other two Americans I was with, we went 266 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:26.400 out and found it. And had the tide not been 267 00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:30.359 coming in and washing it over with cold water, could 268 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:32.480 have just stripped down and taken a hot spring there. 269 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:34.039 Oh, that would have been cold. 270 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:38.039 Quite a bit of Yeah, geothermal and fourteen active volcanoes 271 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:43.559 and ninety three known geothermal vents. So it's it's uh, 272 00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:46.640 literally the land of fire and ice. 273 00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:50.039 Brad, Why do you think more than any other place 274 00:19:50.599 --> 00:19:56.920 on the planet Antarctica has attracted such alternative theories. I mean, 275 00:19:56.960 --> 00:20:00.119 there's so much coming out of that place that this, 276 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:03.200 you know reported. We're going to get into some of 277 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:06.440 the history in a minute. But what's why is it 278 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:08.480 such a marker for alternative thinking. 279 00:20:10.039 --> 00:20:17.599 Yeah, mainly because it is so far away for one 280 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:21.680 the barrier of entry to get there. For example, it 281 00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:24.680 took us almost four days on a sailboat just to 282 00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:28.400 get to an outer island. As I said, you can 283 00:20:28.480 --> 00:20:32.440 fly there, but then you have to travel further afield 284 00:20:32.519 --> 00:20:36.640 from there, and it's very expensive. So there are many 285 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:40.519 blockages for people to go down there, say just down 286 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:44.079 on vacation. Many just take a cruise for fifteen days. 287 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:50.400 But huge amount of the world population will never see Antarctica. 288 00:20:51.240 --> 00:20:53.759 I did the numbers because the Lonely Planet gave us 289 00:20:54.440 --> 00:20:58.200 the yearly visitors. It's something like point zero zero zero 290 00:20:58.319 --> 00:21:01.680 two percent of all people living in the world today 291 00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:04.359 will ever go down there. So there's a lot of 292 00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:07.839 misconceptions about what it is, where it is, I mean 293 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:11.880 the whole flat earth, and whether there's an ice wall, 294 00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:15.480 which there is not. A wall implies it goes straight down, 295 00:21:16.440 --> 00:21:18.920 and the pictures I've seen that people send me all 296 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:21.559 the time, like here's the ice wall. It's like, no, 297 00:21:21.799 --> 00:21:26.799 that's misidentified as an ice shelf because it's hollow underneath. 298 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:31.640 And one of the big science stories from this season 299 00:21:32.680 --> 00:21:37.759 was that they put a submersible down there and found 300 00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:42.279 that the ice fish have millions of nests underneath the 301 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:47.839 ice shelves. And they are the cornerstone species that feed 302 00:21:47.880 --> 00:21:52.039 all the seals and all the penguins and are absolutely 303 00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:57.359 vital to the chain of life in Antarctica. And they 304 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:01.640 make their nesting and reproduce under the ice and sub 305 00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:05.880 freezing temperatures. These fish, which are related to mackerel, they're 306 00:22:05.960 --> 00:22:13.480 nearly translucent and they have no hemoglobin. They're very unusual 307 00:22:13.519 --> 00:22:18.880 creatures to have adapted to sub freezing water, and there 308 00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:23.799 they thrive and they live deep underneath the ice shelves. 309 00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:27.680 I assume the reason they do that, why the ice 310 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:32.279 fish populate well deep under the ice shelves, is because 311 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:35.440 it's too far for the penguins and the seals to 312 00:22:35.519 --> 00:22:38.720 hold their breath and get that far deep underneath the 313 00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:39.400 ice shelves. 314 00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:44.480 Oh yeah, I didn't even think of the ecological ramifications 315 00:22:44.519 --> 00:22:47.599 of Antarctica. That's a new one for me. It's great, 316 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:52.880 so much new information. One of the things that you 317 00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:58.599 show in this book is satellite imagery of pyramids, and 318 00:22:58.640 --> 00:23:02.640 there's a couple that just blew me away, Brad, because 319 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:09.200 I love looking at satellite imagery of ancient buildings and pyramids. 320 00:23:10.680 --> 00:23:14.559 That's an amazing photograph of those two pyramids. I don't 321 00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:18.440 know how old. Are they able to age or predict 322 00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:20.680 an age for those buildings. 323 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:27.319 Yeah, that is truly one of the great anomalies of Antarctica. 324 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:31.799 It's not just one location, it's actually three, possibly four 325 00:23:31.880 --> 00:23:36.759 locations that have pyramids. And I talked to one of 326 00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:41.839 the tour guides that does trips to Antarctica, and he says, 327 00:23:42.200 --> 00:23:45.200 I showed them the pictures that you're referring to. They're 328 00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:50.640 the Shackleton Mountain Range pyramids, and he just dismissed them. 329 00:23:50.759 --> 00:23:53.240 He just said, oh, they're none attacks. I said, what's 330 00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:58.920 a unattacked just to attractive looking pyramid shaped mountains. And 331 00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:01.440 then I said, well, did you ever put down your 332 00:24:01.480 --> 00:24:05.480 plane and check them out, climb them, take a sample. No, No, 333 00:24:05.640 --> 00:24:09.519 we just fly over them, just look at them. So 334 00:24:09.640 --> 00:24:11.920 I think the jury's out, at least on that one. 335 00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:16.000 But perhaps all of them. Are they non attacks or 336 00:24:16.039 --> 00:24:20.240 are they fashioned with intelligent hands? And in the event 337 00:24:20.359 --> 00:24:25.160 that they are created with an intelligence behind them, that's 338 00:24:25.160 --> 00:24:28.720 a complete game changer. Then that really rewrites history as 339 00:24:28.720 --> 00:24:32.279 we know it. To put an advanced civilization down in 340 00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:36.119 Antarctica before the Ice Age or before it was covered 341 00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:39.519 with ice to be able to build these pyramids. 342 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:44.720 Yeah, you know, you had a couple of step pyramids 343 00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:49.440 that were very close to the ground, and they reminded 344 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:54.240 me of South American pyramids, which makes you wonder how, 345 00:24:54.319 --> 00:24:57.720 I mean, how old they could possibly be. Just the 346 00:24:57.799 --> 00:25:04.039 idea is amazing. Let's talk about H and C maps 347 00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:06.200 because you kind of bring up hap Good a little bit. 348 00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:14.279 What's your belief of Antarctica's history? Because hap Good, of course, 349 00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:20.559 was the theorists that believe that the Earth is kind 350 00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:22.799 of like a giant orange peel and that it moves, 351 00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:26.640 that the continents have been moving for tens of millions 352 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:28.240 of years. What's your feeling on that. 353 00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:34.440 Yeah, and that's the movement of the plates on the planet, 354 00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:40.359 the continental drift of the continents moving every time there's 355 00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:44.599 a pole shift, And it would make sense that our 356 00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:48.720 entire geography of planet Earth would be redrawn every time 357 00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:52.559 there is such a movement of the continental land masses. 358 00:25:53.240 --> 00:25:59.640 But it also has pushed East Antarctica from connecting at 359 00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:06.599 one time to Australia, India, Madagascar and Africa. The reason 360 00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:11.119 that's known is because there are animals land animals that 361 00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:16.119 could have only traveled across when they were connected, and 362 00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:20.680 it's in the fossil record that these animals lived in 363 00:26:20.759 --> 00:26:25.799 these other continent and islands and now are also found 364 00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:28.759 in the fossil records of Antarctica, so it's true that 365 00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:34.240 there were continental movements that trapped some of these animals. 366 00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:37.119 There are two species of dinosaur that have only been 367 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:41.039 found in Antarctica. Of course, we know that dinosaurs are 368 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:46.359 cold blooded animals. They need to live in hot, steaming environments. 369 00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:51.519 Same with ferns and fern trees, which in the fossil 370 00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:55.400 records are millions of years old. So it broke off 371 00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:59.559 from Pangaea or Gondwana land and moved to its present location. 372 00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:06.599 While Western Australia, which is that sinuous band of mountains, 373 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:11.720 that is much younger, that's only seven hundred million years old. 374 00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:15.839 That's the Palmer Peninsula that I went to seek and 375 00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:21.160 eastern Antarctica is nearly completely covered over in two miles 376 00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:25.359 of ice called the Polar Plateau, and that is three 377 00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:29.680 billion years old, so two different continents that kind of 378 00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:34.720 collided during the last poll shift, and that's the Antarctica 379 00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:35.559 we see today. 380 00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:41.240 We're going to take a short commercial break to allow 381 00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:45.279 our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly 382 00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:50.200 with my guest today, Brett Olson, discussing his newest book, 383 00:27:51.039 --> 00:28:40.519 The Secrets of Antarctica. Will be right back. My guest 384 00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:43.839 today is author research investigator Brad Olsen. He has written 385 00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:47.759 a new book called The Secrets of Antarctica. We have 386 00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:51.359 a small gallery of a few of the photographs, including 387 00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:55.920 some of these pyramidal ruins on the continent of Antarctica 388 00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:59.759 that you can see at Earth Ancients on the Facebook page. 389 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:04.160 Go to either Facebook or go to Instagram and you'll 390 00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:13.559 see all those images from the book. This podcast is 391 00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:18.319 sponsored by Squarespace. Hey, have you ever had an idea 392 00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:21.960 for a product that you wanted to sell? Perhaps you're 393 00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:23.799 an artist or a writer, or you want to get 394 00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:27.240 a message out to a greater number of people. 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