WEBVTT 1 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:28.239 Welcome everyone to Hobby Hotline, episode three hundred and ninety three. 2 00:00:29.480 --> 00:00:35.000 We are once again the interactive call in show that 3 00:00:35.280 --> 00:00:38.479 you can participate if you want to. I threw that 4 00:00:38.600 --> 00:00:41.640 link right in the chat. If anyone wants to join 5 00:00:41.759 --> 00:00:46.039 in and talk with us directly on screen, you are 6 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:51.320 always welcome. I've got a couple of great co panelists 7 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:54.880 here with me, Orlando a Collector's Dream. Hello Orlando. 8 00:00:55.240 --> 00:00:56.759 Hey John, good to be back. 9 00:00:56.920 --> 00:01:01.719 Then. Oh yeah, the kid with as well, Welcome. 10 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:04.840 What's up John? What's up everybody? Only a month out 11 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:06.959 from the Nationals getting close that. 12 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:10.519 People are starting to get national fever, aren't they? And 13 00:01:11.519 --> 00:01:14.359 I have a feeling those folks that you know might 14 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:16.599 be saying, oh, I'm burned out on going to the 15 00:01:16.680 --> 00:01:22.879 National I might start to get foamo here eventually. But 16 00:01:22.959 --> 00:01:26.319 yeah that we've already got a few folks here in 17 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:31.159 the chat are slowly rolling in. It's early for us 18 00:01:31.239 --> 00:01:34.760 those on the West Coast like myself, but we got 19 00:01:35.079 --> 00:01:40.079 Stukes Good morning from Minnesota. We got Mad City Brew, 20 00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:46.599 We've got Upstate sports cards, yank Bee card, Steve from Tucson. 21 00:01:46.760 --> 00:01:50.879 I was actually in Phoenix this week for work. But 22 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:54.280 it is hot down there. I am. I am happy 23 00:01:54.439 --> 00:01:58.239 to get off the plane in Portland and it's like, oh, 24 00:01:58.319 --> 00:02:01.000 I can go outside and not just in starts sweating. 25 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:07.560 Good morning from sunny Cape Cod We've got upstate sports 26 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:11.639 cards Albany. Is that New Jersey? New York? It was 27 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:14.919 a typo. I thought all it would be in New York, 28 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:20.840 but uh, we have got someone who is experiencing tonight 29 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:24.639 in Tokyo. Welcome from the other side of the world. 30 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:29.080 So all right, before we get rolling into the topics, 31 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:33.879 you guys got anything you want to bring up? First, 32 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:36.879 I have to bring up a big shout out to 33 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:41.039 my boy THEO. I'm sure if you're watching this you've 34 00:02:41.080 --> 00:02:44.280 probably seen it. He's got thousands of views wrapped up 35 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:48.879 on the video where he put I quit on the thumbnail, 36 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:51.960 and what he did was quit his day job and 37 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:55.599 went full time in the hobby. So big congrats to 38 00:02:55.599 --> 00:03:00.719 THEO for following his dream and seeking happiness over the 39 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:07.080 corporate grind. So congratulations to THEO, who is working for 40 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:11.840 Collector Investor Auctions, which might be a sponsor for a 41 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:15.599 program on this channel when we do our Sunday closing shows. 42 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:19.960 We've got one coming up July twelfth because their auction 43 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:24.400 did just open up again for July. So lots of 44 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:28.039 good stuff in their auctions every time. And well, the 45 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:29.960 thing that's great about them is that feel like they 46 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:34.240 hit every price point for any level of collector. So 47 00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:39.039 you've got your big comma stuff at the front end 48 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:41.919 of the auction, but then they've got just depth all 49 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:45.919 the way through for you know, bargain collectors, you know, 50 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:50.439 and everything in between. So yeah, okay, Orlando. 51 00:03:50.199 --> 00:03:55.080 You got any Yeah, definitely auction. I just send some 52 00:03:55.159 --> 00:03:58.639 cards on Monday. Unfortunately they didn't get there in time 53 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:01.039 for this auction, but they'll be there in the August auction. 54 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:04.039 But they're a great auction house. It's the one I've been. 55 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:07.080 This will be my fifth time sending cards over there, 56 00:04:07.120 --> 00:04:10.240 and you know, I especially love that they pay you 57 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:14.319 immediately because they sell them. But yeah, what I've got 58 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:16.959 going is I'll be at a card show next week. 59 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:19.920 You know, I attend card shows pretty much every month, 60 00:04:19.959 --> 00:04:22.360 maybe twice a month. There aren't as many here in 61 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:25.279 South Florida as there are in other places, but I 62 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:27.120 do try to go to all of them. And I've 63 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:30.319 got a new podcast that's coming out actually today. We 64 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:33.800 recorded it yesterday with Sammy Thunder and it pertained to 65 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:38.079 card shows. It's called Card Show Culture, and we recorded 66 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:40.879 it yesterday. I'm going to post it today after we 67 00:04:40.959 --> 00:04:44.000 do this hobby hotline, so we'd be able to look 68 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:47.160 out for that, and it'll also be some of it 69 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:51.519 will also appear on the Sports Card Clubhouse. So Sammy 70 00:04:51.560 --> 00:04:53.519 and I are thinking of doing it once a month. 71 00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:56.120 We both do a lot of card shows, just going 72 00:04:56.199 --> 00:04:58.279 to talk a little bit about what's happening out there 73 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:01.800 at the card shows. And it's crazy already that we're 74 00:05:01.839 --> 00:05:04.839 having the National again, and he's like yesterday that we 75 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:07.399 were at Strongsville, you know, and oh yeah, it kind 76 00:05:07.399 --> 00:05:10.360 of seems like yesterday that Brody was a kid, and Brody's. 77 00:05:09.920 --> 00:05:10.720 Not a kid anymore. 78 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:13.600 So I'm flive. So back to you, Brody, what do 79 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:14.439 you got going on? 80 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:18.079 I'm so excited for the National, but I think as well, 81 00:05:18.319 --> 00:05:20.519 something good to mention is to shout out my man 82 00:05:20.759 --> 00:05:25.040 Tim at signatures for soldiers he's doing. Obviously, we're close 83 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:27.680 to July fourth, and he's not going to be getting 84 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:31.120 as much that he would be during the summer. So 85 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:34.000 if you want to look at his Twitter is he's 86 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:35.600 on District, He's on eBay. 87 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:37.160 Maybe go look at the stuff. 88 00:05:37.160 --> 00:05:40.839 He's got great organization there, see if you can donate. 89 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:46.399 So well, that's a great lead in. Because I got 90 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:50.279 the schedule out or ready to go. I'm going to 91 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:53.879 be notifying all the folks who are going to be 92 00:05:53.920 --> 00:06:00.279 hosting shows on the upcoming hobby Polooza number seven. This 93 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:06.839 is going to be starting Friday, July seventeenth, all day 94 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:11.839 Saturday the eighteenth, all day Sunday the nineteenth, and throughout 95 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:14.839 the show we're going to be asking for donations from 96 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:19.480 signatures for Soldiers. The main point of the event is 97 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:23.120 a fundraiser for them. We were able to give them 98 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:30.000 eighty five hundred dollars last year around hobby Palooza. So 99 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:33.680 the goal for this year is let's hit that ten K. 100 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:36.519 That's a magic number. We want to want to try 101 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:39.959 to hit that one this year, and I think we 102 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:44.439 can do it. We have got a ton of great 103 00:06:44.560 --> 00:06:48.639 people lined up. I know there's many out you out 104 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:51.120 there who might not have been able to get a chance. 105 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:54.759 We only had twenty nine spots to fill and there's 106 00:06:54.800 --> 00:06:58.759 so many awesome creators in the community. But it should 107 00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:02.720 be a great event again for those three days. But 108 00:07:03.439 --> 00:07:06.480 once again, if you didn't hear that, mark your calendars 109 00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:12.439 July seventeenth, eighteenth, and nineteenth. So starting Friday evening, the 110 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:17.000 first show is going to be seven pm Eastern four Pacific, 111 00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:19.639 and once again leading things off for us as a 112 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:22.279 host was going to be silver Jackafi and they always 113 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:27.480 put together a great show and all kinds of you know, 114 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:31.360 you think of one of the big creators in our 115 00:07:31.399 --> 00:07:34.319 little hobby space and they're going to be a part 116 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:39.360 of this, So it should be a fun event. And 117 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:46.079 just back on your you know linkage with Sammy Thunder Orlando's. 118 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:49.439 To me, it's very synergistic because you guys started almost 119 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:52.879 around the same time. You guys both blew up as 120 00:07:52.920 --> 00:07:56.519 far as channels with doing exactly what you're talking with, 121 00:07:56.680 --> 00:08:00.480 walking through shows and giving us great looks at you know, 122 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:02.600 the folks like me on the West Coast that have 123 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:05.720 a dearth of card shows. I get to see and 124 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:08.920 be jealous of you guys over to the East Coast 125 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:13.560 what you have access to on a regular basis. So yeah, 126 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:15.160 to your show. 127 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:18.120 I'm a little jealous. Of course, he's got shows every weekend, 128 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:23.000 but yeah, Sammy and I our channels are very very similar. 129 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:26.240 We do card shows and we show cards, and we 130 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:29.519 started around the same time. We've been doing YouTube now 131 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:33.720 for almost five years, and we actually collaboration. We're both 132 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:37.440 hitting two thousand subscribers at the same time, so I 133 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:39.960 remember that we did that and had gave away some 134 00:08:40.039 --> 00:08:43.200 prizes on that, and you know, now we're both over 135 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:46.600 four thousand subscribers. And again it's been almost five years, 136 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:49.799 and we both were inducted into the YouTube Hall of 137 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:51.960 Fame the same year also, so it. 138 00:08:51.960 --> 00:08:55.360 Was been on a parallel course with him up in 139 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:57.120 the Northeast and you down in Florida. 140 00:08:57.480 --> 00:08:59.919 Yeah, and Sammy and I have become really good friends 141 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:01.840 because of all of that, and of course, you know, 142 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:04.240 we see each other we go to the big shows. 143 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:06.960 But I think it was a great idea. Sammy came 144 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:09.279 up with it and said, you know, there aren't any 145 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:13.960 podcast out there on card shows and what's actually happening 146 00:09:14.080 --> 00:09:17.080 at shows, So you know, he said, hey, let's do it. 147 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:18.960 I said, we're gonna do it. So we're gonna do 148 00:09:19.039 --> 00:09:21.120 once a month, and you know, who knows, if it 149 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:25.120 becomes popular, maybe we'll do even even more often. We'll 150 00:09:25.120 --> 00:09:26.039 see how it goes. 151 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:30.559 All right, Yeah, sounds good. Speaking of shows, now let's 152 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:34.320 get into the topic of what is coming only one 153 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:39.679 month away. It's starting to be the buzz across many 154 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:46.519 conversations on channels, the national is coming. We what it's 155 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:49.919 one month and what two days would be the start 156 00:09:49.960 --> 00:09:55.440 of it now? So it seems to be on fire 157 00:09:55.720 --> 00:10:00.679 again as we can see. Let me show my screen 158 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:05.440 real quick. Here we go, boom. It's already sold out 159 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:08.799 for the VIP packages, So those of you out there, 160 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:12.200 if you don't have your tickets, you might want to 161 00:10:12.519 --> 00:10:17.480 buy that five day early entry pass now before those 162 00:10:17.600 --> 00:10:20.440 sell out as well, because I do remember last year 163 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:24.600 they sold out before the show as well. So, but 164 00:10:25.320 --> 00:10:28.840 is there any stopping this train of the hobby right 165 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:33.720 now of just being on fire? And what are your thoughts, Orlando. 166 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:38.039 No, they'll stopping it now. I think it's supposedly they 167 00:10:38.120 --> 00:10:40.879 say that this is going to be the biggest show ever. 168 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:43.720 I think the biggest has been back when they had 169 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:47.320 that Anaheim show, and this is supposed to be the 170 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:50.200 biggest one. I mean, yeah, those VIP tickets have been 171 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:52.799 sold out for a while and the five day early 172 00:10:52.879 --> 00:10:55.600 access if you don't get your tickets this week, you 173 00:10:55.720 --> 00:10:58.320 may miss out, because I remember last year they did 174 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:01.600 sell out. And if you've got to go with the daily. 175 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:04.200 Passes, it takes a while to get in the building 176 00:11:04.279 --> 00:11:04.759 every day. 177 00:11:04.919 --> 00:11:08.080 Yeah yeah, if you remember, John, the line was seemed 178 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:10.919 like it was over a mile long outside, you know, 179 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:13.399 and they had to literally go outside and put the 180 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:16.600 wristbands on people out there because the line went all 181 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:19.240 the way way out into the street, and it took 182 00:11:19.279 --> 00:11:22.080 those guys just over an hour just to get in. 183 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:25.960 So you don't want to do the daily pass unless 184 00:11:25.960 --> 00:11:28.519 you're only gonna go there one day. But if you're 185 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:31.720 gonna be there more than, you know, two or three days, 186 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:34.200 you got to get the five day, the early pass 187 00:11:34.360 --> 00:11:36.480 and get in before all those crowds. If not, you're 188 00:11:36.519 --> 00:11:39.240 gonna be stuck out there in the heat and the 189 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:41.240 crowd for long long to the hall. 190 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:44.279 All right, it looks like we're on the big screens 191 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:47.480 at the sports card shop. So hello, everyone's shopping at 192 00:11:47.480 --> 00:11:48.639 the sports card shop. 193 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:52.320 But this is gonna be the biggest show. I'm so 194 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:53.360 excited for it. 195 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:56.600 I love that the upstairs is gonna be bigger because 196 00:11:56.799 --> 00:11:59.399 I think all of us that went upstairs last year. 197 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:02.720 Knew that that was not the best design ever, but 198 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:06.200 it's I mean, it's the buzz every year, and I'm 199 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:08.320 really excited for it. I can't wait to see everybody. 200 00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:11.080 I think that's the best part about the nationals, being 201 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:13.360 able to see all the people were talking to here 202 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:16.679 and YouTube channels on Twitter, on Instagram. 203 00:12:17.000 --> 00:12:20.759 Well, speaking of the upstairs, I did also pull up 204 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:26.200 the interactive map and let me zoom in. It looks 205 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:32.360 like the upstairs is now not a second class citizen anymore. 206 00:12:32.840 --> 00:12:37.360 So it appears to be much better when they've actually 207 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:42.399 got you know, corporate things upstairs and real aisles. So 208 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:47.240 I'm looking forward to that being a usable space as 209 00:12:47.240 --> 00:12:50.679 opposed to the nightmare it was last year, so you 210 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:53.840 could once it got past the early morning, you could 211 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:58.519 not squeeze hardly past those aisles without colliding with everyone, 212 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:02.080 So that as much much better. I mean, you've got 213 00:13:02.120 --> 00:13:05.039 eBay has booths up there, so it's definitely going to 214 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:05.919 be laid out better. 215 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:08.440 Yeah's TikTok doing up there? 216 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:09.759 I do not know. 217 00:13:10.519 --> 00:13:14.200 Well, yeah, what is TikTok's involvement with the sports card 218 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:18.720 hobby at this point? That is weird? Like even Fanatics 219 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:21.759 has a smaller booth upstairs in addition to the big 220 00:13:21.799 --> 00:13:23.080 one they have downstairs. 221 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:25.000 Well, you know, I heard a lot of people do 222 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:28.200 sell card to talk. Now I don't have TikTok, but 223 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:30.639 that's kind of what I've heard. So that's gotta be 224 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:33.279 something they want to promote a little bit more. 225 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:37.399 Oh, here's a question pre national commercial. Where is the 226 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:40.240 West Coast card show commercial? It's coming up before the 227 00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:45.320 national I think what it amounts to is that the 228 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:49.879 majority of our community is Midwest and Northeast based, is 229 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:53.480 what it amounts to. I mean, that's even the prevalence 230 00:13:53.480 --> 00:13:56.960 of If you look at that card show map website, dang, 231 00:13:57.080 --> 00:14:02.159 the little pins are just like everywhere in the Midway, 232 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:07.039 like Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York. It's insane how many pins 233 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:09.960 are on that map for card shows in those states. 234 00:14:10.120 --> 00:14:12.960 But they are spreading everywhere. I mean, we've got the 235 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:19.399 front Row Show is starting to do regular quarterly shows 236 00:14:19.759 --> 00:14:23.399 at our large convention center as opposed to the dying 237 00:14:23.799 --> 00:14:27.919 pathetic mall that we were getting little tiny card shows at. 238 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:33.679 So unfortunately they are more than half pokemon, but it 239 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:37.840 is what it is. So but that looks to night, 240 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:42.000 you know, any other thoughts on the whole card show front, 241 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:45.720 and you know, beyond just the National, how crazy it 242 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:46.320 is getting. 243 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:50.240 Yeah, it's definitely getting crazy. We'll see last year there 244 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:54.200 weren't as many Pokemon dealers at the National as there 245 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:57.120 are in regular card shows, where you know, you've got 246 00:14:57.120 --> 00:15:00.320 fifty to sixty seventy of the show is poke them on. 247 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:03.240 But I hear there's going to be more Pokemon and 248 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:06.000 you know maybe in the second floor. You know last 249 00:15:06.039 --> 00:15:09.279 year that place huge up up in the second floor, 250 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:12.559 but it was all crammed in section, So hopefully they'll 251 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:15.919 expand all that out, and that's where probably a lot 252 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:18.960 of the newer deaders located. Because the way they do 253 00:15:19.039 --> 00:15:21.639 the National, the kind of the people have been to 254 00:15:21.759 --> 00:15:24.399 the longest get to pick their spot and pick their 255 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:26.720 booth and those get in and then the ones that 256 00:15:27.000 --> 00:15:30.279 the new guys there get whatever's left over. So that's 257 00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:32.240 probably going to be the second floor guys. And I 258 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:34.720 would imagine the Pokemon are going to be more up there. 259 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:37.200 But it looks like they're going to have bigger aisles, 260 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:40.320 which is great because upstairs before, I mean you couldn't 261 00:15:40.360 --> 00:15:43.639 fit two people in one Aisle, so hopefully it'll get better. 262 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:48.000 But yeah, I'm expecting to be the biggest national ever 263 00:15:48.440 --> 00:15:51.360 based on all the hype and everything that's going on, 264 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:55.120 and it's going to be just the area where all 265 00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:57.559 the corporates are going to be. That's going to be crazy. 266 00:15:57.840 --> 00:15:59.919 If you saw last year, it was loud. 267 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:02.759 And I think it'll be interesting with the second floor 268 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:05.720 from that map, like that almost looks like its own show, 269 00:16:06.039 --> 00:16:09.240 Like that's crazy. I think you might even see it 270 00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:12.519 at the regular show. Maybe it'll be a little less 271 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:14.320 crowded down there because you've got a lot of people 272 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:16.519 going up there, especially like you said, if it's a 273 00:16:16.559 --> 00:16:18.960 lot of Pokemon people, there might be a lot of 274 00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:22.600 people up there instead of downstairs. But again, I mean, 275 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:24.639 it's the biggest show of the year and I can't wait. 276 00:16:24.799 --> 00:16:28.039 Oh. I mean, we've got people commenting all over the 277 00:16:28.039 --> 00:16:31.399 place that there's just tons of shows like popping up 278 00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:34.639 in where they live here with what was it? I 279 00:16:34.639 --> 00:16:37.480 saw one comment saying, okay, see as three to four 280 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:43.120 options every weekend right here, So I mean, it doesn't 281 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:49.559 it seems like this is just becoming a more mainstream hobby. 282 00:16:50.440 --> 00:16:50.559 Is that? 283 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:54.679 I mean, I don't know. You know, being someone who 284 00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:58.720 in the junk wacks era, I was finishing high school 285 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:02.240 when you know, the bottom fell out of the thing before, 286 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:04.559 so I left because I was going to be going 287 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:08.240 to college. And you know, Orlando, you were around. I mean, 288 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:11.200 was it was it because all the kids fled before 289 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:14.400 or was it you know what happened between the was 290 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:19.039 the spread different then as far as kids versus or. 291 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:23.240 You know, it was different but very similar. I mean 292 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:26.599 what happened was you know, back in the eighties and nineties, 293 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:29.400 I was doing card shows as a dealer, and you know, 294 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:32.240 that was the junk wax era. But you know, we 295 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:34.599 didn't know that unk wax era. When we were in 296 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:37.480 the junk wax era, people were actually thinking that they 297 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:40.440 would buy cases of these you know, eighty seven tops 298 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:43.480 cards and save them and that that would pay for 299 00:17:43.519 --> 00:17:47.759 your college education. So you know, we didn't know how 300 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:51.480 much overproduction there was going on at the time because 301 00:17:51.480 --> 00:17:53.400 of course we didn't have YouTube, we didn't have any 302 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:56.279 social media and stuff, so it was very speculative at 303 00:17:56.279 --> 00:17:58.359 the time. A lot of people got into the hobby 304 00:17:58.640 --> 00:18:01.759 and then eventually people realize that, hey, you know what 305 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:05.279 these cards are being way overproduced, and I think, you know, 306 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:09.440 it's it's a similar to what's happening today in the 307 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:13.480 Pokemon where everybody's getting into Pokemon and buying a lot 308 00:18:13.519 --> 00:18:16.680 of these you know, boxes and unopened boxes in this 309 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:20.359 and they don't realize that last year they produced one 310 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:23.880 billion to be one billion Pokemon. So you see all 311 00:18:23.880 --> 00:18:26.440 these people that are coming in where you know, the 312 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:28.759 same thing back in the day, you know PSA Now, 313 00:18:29.079 --> 00:18:32.160 I think seventy percent of their cards being graded are 314 00:18:32.200 --> 00:18:35.400 Pokemon cards. You know, they literally open a pack of 315 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:39.119 cards and they submit almost every card is the PSA 316 00:18:39.279 --> 00:18:42.200 to get you know graded, And back in those days, 317 00:18:42.200 --> 00:18:44.119 that's kind of what what you thought. You thought all 318 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:47.039 the cards were going to be worth money. And then eventually, 319 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:50.319 you know, you know, reality sat in. People that came 320 00:18:50.359 --> 00:18:53.720 in as investor typee they kind of got out of 321 00:18:53.759 --> 00:18:57.559 the hobby. And that's what happened back back in those days. 322 00:18:57.799 --> 00:19:00.160 You had the big bunch of people coming in, but 323 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:02.119 then you had a bunch of people going out once 324 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:05.279 they realize that that it wasn't an investment. So it's 325 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:08.480 kind of similar to what's happening today, and you see 326 00:19:08.519 --> 00:19:10.880 all these new all the new money that's coming in 327 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:14.119 through the market right now. But you know, most of 328 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:16.880 the stuff, especially a lot of the modern right now, 329 00:19:17.480 --> 00:19:20.079 you know, it's not going to be worth what people think, 330 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:22.759 you know, years from now. I mean, think about all 331 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:25.880 the Zion cards and stuff that were graded and all 332 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:28.359 those type of cards that a lot of them are 333 00:19:28.440 --> 00:19:31.599 are worthless right now. They're not worth the slab that 334 00:19:31.799 --> 00:19:34.079 the slab is worth more than the card itself. So 335 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:36.799 you know, that's what that's what's what I see happening. 336 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:38.880 It's a good thing, I think, because a lot of 337 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:41.279 people are getting in and a lot of people are 338 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:43.279 going to stay in the hobby, but you're going to 339 00:19:43.359 --> 00:19:46.559 have people eventually are going to be leaving the hobby 340 00:19:46.599 --> 00:19:49.599 because they either get disappointed or because it just wasn't 341 00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:53.480 you know. They're not collectors per se, they're more because 342 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:56.960 of the investment, uh part of the hobby opinion. 343 00:19:57.200 --> 00:20:01.559 Yeah, so as far as okay, see Bill, yeah the question. 344 00:20:01.839 --> 00:20:04.160 I am fifty two, so I was a ninety two 345 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:08.960 high school graduate, and so on that front, I mean, 346 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:12.839 when I was doing it, it was like in the eighties, 347 00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:15.559 all the kids in your class, you were the odd 348 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:18.599 kid if you didn't collect sports cards. So that's where 349 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:21.880 I'm wondering now in this new generation, like Brody, are 350 00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:25.400 you the odd one because you do? Or is there 351 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:28.559 is it become popular with the younger kids. 352 00:20:29.400 --> 00:20:33.559 It's definitely getting popular. I'd say it's pretty split like 353 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:36.200 it used to be, like I was the only now 354 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:38.160 I think it. You know, it depends on who you're 355 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:41.960 hating out with. But I there's there's the chase factor. 356 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:44.640 And I was just talking about this with my friends 357 00:20:44.680 --> 00:20:47.480 and my dad the other day. You know, and those 358 00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:51.200 eighty Tops packs there's nothing worth anything, But in twenty years, 359 00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:53.880 you know, there might not be anything from a Tops 360 00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:56.400 Chrome set that's worth much. But I guarantee you that 361 00:20:56.440 --> 00:20:58.880 Paul Schemes one on one with his debut patch is 362 00:20:58.880 --> 00:20:59.480 still gonna. 363 00:20:59.319 --> 00:21:01.720 Be worth one hundred of thousands of dollars. And that's 364 00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:02.839 the difference that I see. 365 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:06.480 Is it a junk parallel era, Yeah, I mean there's 366 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:10.599 eighty plus hundreds parallels in every set. But I think 367 00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:13.920 some of these cards, especially Fanatics, I mean Fanatics has 368 00:21:14.079 --> 00:21:17.039 the like, the resources and the money for so much 369 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:20.400 stuff that I think this is this train will keep going. 370 00:21:20.839 --> 00:21:23.160 It'll be interesting to see how many people hop off. 371 00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:25.920 We have actually got a call in on our call 372 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:29.279 in show here from the other side of the world. 373 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:33.079 We have got Carl from OZ. Welcome to Hobby Hotline. 374 00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:34.559 Good morning, gentlemen. 375 00:21:34.960 --> 00:21:36.759 Hey, good evening to you. 376 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:41.599 Yeah, it's good, it is. Indeed, it's one twenty four. 377 00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:43.759 I am I'm sitting up in bed. I've just locked 378 00:21:43.839 --> 00:21:46.079 my cat out of the bedroom. She's bogging at me. 379 00:21:47.119 --> 00:21:49.559 Just wanted to join in this. This is quite fun. 380 00:21:49.599 --> 00:21:53.000 I love this and I yell you. You're talking earlier, John, Sorry, 381 00:21:53.039 --> 00:21:55.079 you're talking earlier about being jelous about the lack of 382 00:21:55.079 --> 00:22:02.599 couch shows anything. Seriously, you got rebell. Not this year. 383 00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:06.640 I'm not going to the National. This year's found that overwhelming. 384 00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:09.240 Last year for me, I loved it. It was great fun. 385 00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:13.200 But now I'm I'm I'm locked into Strongsville next year. 386 00:22:13.240 --> 00:22:14.799 That's that's the next big one for me. 387 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:17.039 Yeah, it's got to be tough for you. It's a 388 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:19.440 two day traveling to get to the National. 389 00:22:19.880 --> 00:22:23.039 It can be Orlando, yes, it can. Indeed. I'm coming 390 00:22:23.079 --> 00:22:27.039 over again, coming over to the States late October and 391 00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:29.640 hoping to catch up with a few people. My my 392 00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:31.640 son in law is running in the New York Marathon, 393 00:22:31.759 --> 00:22:34.559 so I'm going to be over for that, but that's 394 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:36.440 that'll be the next time I'm over there. 395 00:22:36.920 --> 00:22:39.359 Coral tell us about the hobby. That's how it's like 396 00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:41.960 over there. And are there card shows over there? 397 00:22:42.359 --> 00:22:46.359 There are, but they're they're they're overwhelmed by Pokemon, I 398 00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:50.000 have to say, and which which tends to deter me. 399 00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:55.119 What I've found is that there is a significant interest 400 00:22:55.119 --> 00:23:01.319 in basketball and soccer, uh English football Australians sports. We 401 00:23:01.359 --> 00:23:05.119