Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to Hobby Hotline, episode three hundred and ninety three.
We are once again the interactive call in show that
you can participate if you want to. I threw that
link right in the chat. If anyone wants to join
in and talk with us directly on screen, you are
always welcome. I've got a couple of great co panelists
here with me, Orlando a Collector's Dream. Hello Orlando.
Speaker 2: Hey John, good to be back.
Speaker 1: Then. Oh yeah, the kid with as well, Welcome.
Speaker 3: What's up John? What's up everybody? Only a month out
from the Nationals getting close that.
Speaker 1: People are starting to get national fever, aren't they? And
I have a feeling those folks that you know might
be saying, oh, I'm burned out on going to the
National I might start to get foamo here eventually. But
yeah that we've already got a few folks here in
the chat are slowly rolling in. It's early for us
those on the West Coast like myself, but we got
Stukes Good morning from Minnesota. We got Mad City Brew,
We've got Upstate sports cards, yank Bee card, Steve from Tucson.
I was actually in Phoenix this week for work. But
it is hot down there. I am. I am happy
to get off the plane in Portland and it's like, oh,
I can go outside and not just in starts sweating.
Good morning from sunny Cape Cod We've got upstate sports
cards Albany. Is that New Jersey? New York? It was
a typo. I thought all it would be in New York,
but uh, we have got someone who is experiencing tonight
in Tokyo. Welcome from the other side of the world.
So all right, before we get rolling into the topics,
you guys got anything you want to bring up? First,
I have to bring up a big shout out to
my boy THEO. I'm sure if you're watching this you've
probably seen it. He's got thousands of views wrapped up
on the video where he put I quit on the thumbnail,
and what he did was quit his day job and
went full time in the hobby. So big congrats to
THEO for following his dream and seeking happiness over the
corporate grind. So congratulations to THEO, who is working for
Collector Investor Auctions, which might be a sponsor for a
program on this channel when we do our Sunday closing shows.
We've got one coming up July twelfth because their auction
did just open up again for July. So lots of
good stuff in their auctions every time. And well, the
thing that's great about them is that feel like they
hit every price point for any level of collector. So
you've got your big comma stuff at the front end
of the auction, but then they've got just depth all
the way through for you know, bargain collectors, you know,
and everything in between. So yeah, okay, Orlando.
Speaker 2: You got any Yeah, definitely auction. I just send some
cards on Monday. Unfortunately they didn't get there in time
for this auction, but they'll be there in the August auction.
But they're a great auction house. It's the one I've been.
This will be my fifth time sending cards over there,
and you know, I especially love that they pay you
immediately because they sell them. But yeah, what I've got
going is I'll be at a card show next week.
You know, I attend card shows pretty much every month,
maybe twice a month. There aren't as many here in
South Florida as there are in other places, but I
do try to go to all of them. And I've
got a new podcast that's coming out actually today. We
recorded it yesterday with Sammy Thunder and it pertained to
card shows. It's called Card Show Culture, and we recorded
it yesterday. I'm going to post it today after we
do this hobby hotline, so we'd be able to look
out for that, and it'll also be some of it
will also appear on the Sports Card Clubhouse. So Sammy
and I are thinking of doing it once a month.
We both do a lot of card shows, just going
to talk a little bit about what's happening out there
at the card shows. And it's crazy already that we're
having the National again, and he's like yesterday that we
were at Strongsville, you know, and oh yeah, it kind
of seems like yesterday that Brody was a kid, and Brody's.
Speaker 4: Not a kid anymore.
Speaker 2: So I'm flive. So back to you, Brody, what do
you got going on?
Speaker 3: I'm so excited for the National, but I think as well,
something good to mention is to shout out my man
Tim at signatures for soldiers he's doing. Obviously, we're close
to July fourth, and he's not going to be getting
as much that he would be during the summer. So
if you want to look at his Twitter is he's
on District, He's on eBay.
Speaker 5: Maybe go look at the stuff.
Speaker 3: He's got great organization there, see if you can donate.
Speaker 1: So well, that's a great lead in. Because I got
the schedule out or ready to go. I'm going to
be notifying all the folks who are going to be
hosting shows on the upcoming hobby Polooza number seven. This
is going to be starting Friday, July seventeenth, all day
Saturday the eighteenth, all day Sunday the nineteenth, and throughout
the show we're going to be asking for donations from
signatures for Soldiers. The main point of the event is
a fundraiser for them. We were able to give them
eighty five hundred dollars last year around hobby Palooza. So
the goal for this year is let's hit that ten K.
That's a magic number. We want to want to try
to hit that one this year, and I think we
can do it. We have got a ton of great
people lined up. I know there's many out you out
there who might not have been able to get a chance.
We only had twenty nine spots to fill and there's
so many awesome creators in the community. But it should
be a great event again for those three days. But
once again, if you didn't hear that, mark your calendars
July seventeenth, eighteenth, and nineteenth. So starting Friday evening, the
first show is going to be seven pm Eastern four Pacific,
and once again leading things off for us as a
host was going to be silver Jackafi and they always
put together a great show and all kinds of you know,
you think of one of the big creators in our
little hobby space and they're going to be a part
of this, So it should be a fun event. And
just back on your you know linkage with Sammy Thunder Orlando's.
To me, it's very synergistic because you guys started almost
around the same time. You guys both blew up as
far as channels with doing exactly what you're talking with,
walking through shows and giving us great looks at you know,
the folks like me on the West Coast that have
a dearth of card shows. I get to see and
be jealous of you guys over to the East Coast
what you have access to on a regular basis. So yeah,
to your show.
Speaker 2: I'm a little jealous. Of course, he's got shows every weekend,
but yeah, Sammy and I our channels are very very similar.
We do card shows and we show cards, and we
started around the same time. We've been doing YouTube now
for almost five years, and we actually collaboration. We're both
hitting two thousand subscribers at the same time, so I
remember that we did that and had gave away some
prizes on that, and you know, now we're both over
four thousand subscribers. And again it's been almost five years,
and we both were inducted into the YouTube Hall of
Fame the same year also, so it.
Speaker 1: Was been on a parallel course with him up in
the Northeast and you down in Florida.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Sammy and I have become really good friends
because of all of that, and of course, you know,
we see each other we go to the big shows.
But I think it was a great idea. Sammy came
up with it and said, you know, there aren't any
podcast out there on card shows and what's actually happening
at shows, So you know, he said, hey, let's do it.
I said, we're gonna do it. So we're gonna do
once a month, and you know, who knows, if it
becomes popular, maybe we'll do even even more often. We'll
see how it goes.
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, sounds good. Speaking of shows, now let's
get into the topic of what is coming only one
month away. It's starting to be the buzz across many
conversations on channels, the national is coming. We what it's
one month and what two days would be the start
of it now? So it seems to be on fire
again as we can see. Let me show my screen
real quick. Here we go, boom. It's already sold out
for the VIP packages, So those of you out there,
if you don't have your tickets, you might want to
buy that five day early entry pass now before those
sell out as well, because I do remember last year
they sold out before the show as well. So, but
is there any stopping this train of the hobby right
now of just being on fire? And what are your thoughts, Orlando.
Speaker 2: No, they'll stopping it now. I think it's supposedly they
say that this is going to be the biggest show ever.
I think the biggest has been back when they had
that Anaheim show, and this is supposed to be the
biggest one. I mean, yeah, those VIP tickets have been
sold out for a while and the five day early
access if you don't get your tickets this week, you
may miss out, because I remember last year they did
sell out. And if you've got to go with the daily.
Speaker 1: Passes, it takes a while to get in the building
every day.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, if you remember, John, the line was seemed
like it was over a mile long outside, you know,
and they had to literally go outside and put the
wristbands on people out there because the line went all
the way way out into the street, and it took
those guys just over an hour just to get in.
So you don't want to do the daily pass unless
you're only gonna go there one day. But if you're
gonna be there more than, you know, two or three days,
you got to get the five day, the early pass
and get in before all those crowds. If not, you're
gonna be stuck out there in the heat and the
crowd for long long to the hall.
Speaker 1: All right, it looks like we're on the big screens
at the sports card shop. So hello, everyone's shopping at
the sports card shop.
Speaker 5: But this is gonna be the biggest show. I'm so
excited for it.
Speaker 3: I love that the upstairs is gonna be bigger because
I think all of us that went upstairs last year.
Knew that that was not the best design ever, but
it's I mean, it's the buzz every year, and I'm
really excited for it. I can't wait to see everybody.
I think that's the best part about the nationals, being
able to see all the people were talking to here
and YouTube channels on Twitter, on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of the upstairs, I did also pull up
the interactive map and let me zoom in. It looks
like the upstairs is now not a second class citizen anymore.
So it appears to be much better when they've actually
got you know, corporate things upstairs and real aisles. So
I'm looking forward to that being a usable space as
opposed to the nightmare it was last year, so you
could once it got past the early morning, you could
not squeeze hardly past those aisles without colliding with everyone,
So that as much much better. I mean, you've got
eBay has booths up there, so it's definitely going to
be laid out better.
Speaker 5: Yeah's TikTok doing up there?
Speaker 2: I do not know.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, what is TikTok's involvement with the sports card
hobby at this point? That is weird? Like even Fanatics
has a smaller booth upstairs in addition to the big
one they have downstairs.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I heard a lot of people do
sell card to talk. Now I don't have TikTok, but
that's kind of what I've heard. So that's gotta be
something they want to promote a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Oh, here's a question pre national commercial. Where is the
West Coast card show commercial? It's coming up before the
national I think what it amounts to is that the
majority of our community is Midwest and Northeast based, is
what it amounts to. I mean, that's even the prevalence
of If you look at that card show map website, dang,
the little pins are just like everywhere in the Midway,
like Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York. It's insane how many pins
are on that map for card shows in those states.
But they are spreading everywhere. I mean, we've got the
front Row Show is starting to do regular quarterly shows
at our large convention center as opposed to the dying
pathetic mall that we were getting little tiny card shows at.
So unfortunately they are more than half pokemon, but it
is what it is. So but that looks to night,
you know, any other thoughts on the whole card show front,
and you know, beyond just the National, how crazy it
is getting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely getting crazy. We'll see last year there
weren't as many Pokemon dealers at the National as there
are in regular card shows, where you know, you've got
fifty to sixty seventy of the show is poke them on.
But I hear there's going to be more Pokemon and
you know maybe in the second floor. You know last
year that place huge up up in the second floor,
but it was all crammed in section, So hopefully they'll
expand all that out, and that's where probably a lot
of the newer deaders located. Because the way they do
the National, the kind of the people have been to
the longest get to pick their spot and pick their
booth and those get in and then the ones that
the new guys there get whatever's left over. So that's
probably going to be the second floor guys. And I
would imagine the Pokemon are going to be more up there.
But it looks like they're going to have bigger aisles,
which is great because upstairs before, I mean you couldn't
fit two people in one Aisle, so hopefully it'll get better.
But yeah, I'm expecting to be the biggest national ever
based on all the hype and everything that's going on,
and it's going to be just the area where all
the corporates are going to be. That's going to be crazy.
If you saw last year, it was loud.
Speaker 3: And I think it'll be interesting with the second floor
from that map, like that almost looks like its own show,
Like that's crazy. I think you might even see it
at the regular show. Maybe it'll be a little less
crowded down there because you've got a lot of people
going up there, especially like you said, if it's a
lot of Pokemon people, there might be a lot of
people up there instead of downstairs. But again, I mean,
it's the biggest show of the year and I can't wait.
Speaker 1: Oh. I mean, we've got people commenting all over the
place that there's just tons of shows like popping up
in where they live here with what was it? I
saw one comment saying, okay, see as three to four
options every weekend right here, So I mean, it doesn't
it seems like this is just becoming a more mainstream hobby.
Speaker 5: Is that?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. You know, being someone who
in the junk wacks era, I was finishing high school
when you know, the bottom fell out of the thing before,
so I left because I was going to be going
to college. And you know, Orlando, you were around. I mean,
was it was it because all the kids fled before
or was it you know what happened between the was
the spread different then as far as kids versus or.
Speaker 2: You know, it was different but very similar. I mean
what happened was you know, back in the eighties and nineties,
I was doing card shows as a dealer, and you know,
that was the junk wax era. But you know, we
didn't know that unk wax era. When we were in
the junk wax era, people were actually thinking that they
would buy cases of these you know, eighty seven tops
cards and save them and that that would pay for
your college education. So you know, we didn't know how
much overproduction there was going on at the time because
of course we didn't have YouTube, we didn't have any
social media and stuff, so it was very speculative at
the time. A lot of people got into the hobby
and then eventually people realize that, hey, you know what
these cards are being way overproduced, and I think, you know,
it's it's a similar to what's happening today in the
Pokemon where everybody's getting into Pokemon and buying a lot
of these you know, boxes and unopened boxes in this
and they don't realize that last year they produced one
billion to be one billion Pokemon. So you see all
these people that are coming in where you know, the
same thing back in the day, you know PSA Now,
I think seventy percent of their cards being graded are
Pokemon cards. You know, they literally open a pack of
cards and they submit almost every card is the PSA
to get you know graded, And back in those days,
that's kind of what what you thought. You thought all
the cards were going to be worth money. And then eventually,
you know, you know, reality sat in. People that came
in as investor typee they kind of got out of
the hobby. And that's what happened back back in those days.
You had the big bunch of people coming in, but
then you had a bunch of people going out once
they realize that that it wasn't an investment. So it's
kind of similar to what's happening today, and you see
all these new all the new money that's coming in
through the market right now. But you know, most of
the stuff, especially a lot of the modern right now,
you know, it's not going to be worth what people think,
you know, years from now. I mean, think about all
the Zion cards and stuff that were graded and all
those type of cards that a lot of them are
are worthless right now. They're not worth the slab that
the slab is worth more than the card itself. So
you know, that's what that's what's what I see happening.
It's a good thing, I think, because a lot of
people are getting in and a lot of people are
going to stay in the hobby, but you're going to
have people eventually are going to be leaving the hobby
because they either get disappointed or because it just wasn't
you know. They're not collectors per se, they're more because
of the investment, uh part of the hobby opinion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so as far as okay, see Bill, yeah the question.
I am fifty two, so I was a ninety two
high school graduate, and so on that front, I mean,
when I was doing it, it was like in the eighties,
all the kids in your class, you were the odd
kid if you didn't collect sports cards. So that's where
I'm wondering now in this new generation, like Brody, are
you the odd one because you do? Or is there
is it become popular with the younger kids.
Speaker 3: It's definitely getting popular. I'd say it's pretty split like
it used to be, like I was the only now
I think it. You know, it depends on who you're
hating out with. But I there's there's the chase factor.
And I was just talking about this with my friends
and my dad the other day. You know, and those
eighty Tops packs there's nothing worth anything, But in twenty years,
you know, there might not be anything from a Tops
Chrome set that's worth much. But I guarantee you that
Paul Schemes one on one with his debut patch is
still gonna.
Speaker 5: Be worth one hundred of thousands of dollars. And that's
the difference that I see.
Speaker 3: Is it a junk parallel era, Yeah, I mean there's
eighty plus hundreds parallels in every set. But I think
some of these cards, especially Fanatics, I mean Fanatics has
the like, the resources and the money for so much
stuff that I think this is this train will keep going.
It'll be interesting to see how many people hop off.
Speaker 1: We have actually got a call in on our call
in show here from the other side of the world.
We have got Carl from OZ. Welcome to Hobby Hotline.
Speaker 4: Good morning, gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Hey, good evening to you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good, it is. Indeed, it's one twenty four.
I am I'm sitting up in bed. I've just locked
my cat out of the bedroom. She's bogging at me.
Just wanted to join in this. This is quite fun.
I love this and I yell you. You're talking earlier, John, Sorry,
you're talking earlier about being jelous about the lack of
couch shows anything. Seriously, you got rebell. Not this year.
I'm not going to the National. This year's found that overwhelming.
Last year for me, I loved it. It was great fun.
But now I'm I'm I'm locked into Strongsville next year.
That's that's the next big one for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got to be tough for you. It's a
two day traveling to get to the National.
Speaker 4: It can be Orlando, yes, it can. Indeed. I'm coming
over again, coming over to the States late October and
hoping to catch up with a few people. My my
son in law is running in the New York Marathon,
so I'm going to be over for that, but that's
that'll be the next time I'm over there.
Speaker 2: Coral tell us about the hobby. That's how it's like
over there. And are there card shows over there?
Speaker 4: There are, but they're they're they're overwhelmed by Pokemon, I
have to say, and which which tends to deter me.
What I've found is that there is a significant interest
in basketball and soccer, uh English football Australians sports. We
have our local football league is called the AFL Australian
Football League. Its cards are very popular locally, obviously not internationally.
Cricket's very popular, but Pokemon has just swamped card shows generally, which,
as I say, makes it less than totally attractive for me.
There was a guy came out from the States to
a big show in Sydney a few weeks ago. I
can't remember his name, but he did a good video
on the show up there, and I think there's a
few additional shows in Sydney compared to Melbourne.
Speaker 2: And where are you? What city are you in?
Speaker 4: I'm in Melbourne, WHI she's down the southern part of
the country on the east coast, still southeast coast. Melbourne's
the second largest city in Australia, soon to be the largest.
We're catching up to Sydney population wide. Sydney's got about
five and a half million. We've got about five In Australia.
The population has concentrated significantly on the coast. There's hardly
any population in the interior. In terms of numerically, there's
very large cattle ranchers and what you guys would good
ranchers like there's I think there's one in I think
it's in Western Australia. That's the size of Belgium or
something like that. I mean, the acreage of some of
these places are staggering, but there's pretty poor, poor country
in terms of utility in the ground. But I'm getting
jealous about not being out of course, but you know,
you can't, you can't do absolutely everything. And I JT
has invited me to be the umpire in one of
his one of his shows in the next few weeks.
So I had arrived yesterday a National League umpire's hat
and I've bought a whistle to bring catch bring people
into line, and I intend to have the tiebreaker questions
based on Australian here so just to pivot up participants.
Happened to me if.
Speaker 1: Anyone referring to JT's Vintage Card Round and has a
new show called pre War Card Clash, which is basically, uh,
admittedly a rip showcase showdown completely war.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, as I say, it's a complete rip off, that's it.
I don't think. I don't think Mike and Chris mind
that much.
Speaker 1: They got their blessing, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3: I think you've got a lot of card shops down
there too, not that many.
Speaker 4: There's more and more coming on, but again it's it's
all Pokemon based primarily, and they usually have a smattering
of modern sports. I have very very little, very little
into mean, I would would not I would not keep them,
keep them profitable, that's for sure, because it's just hardly
anything there. But unfortunately by are A A and c
I A options have got me somewhat hooked at the moment,
so we will have limited funds, no idea.
Speaker 1: Closing show. There's a stack of Carl from OZ wins.
Speaker 4: Well they one day for the next few months, John,
because I do have to sign for shrugs.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, Brody, Carl was asking where you're from. Yeah,
talk about this. Tell us about the card shows in
your area. What are what are they and how are
they doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm actually only about thirty five forty minutes from
Rosemont from the convention centers.
Speaker 5: They usually do.
Speaker 3: A couple, usually do two smaller ones there called the
Chicago Sports Spectacular, and I think it's usually in the
upstairs part that they're using for the National It's a
pretty decent show. A lot of autographed guests there as
well too. And then recently, in like the past year
year and a half, there's a lot of just random
shows and small towns popping up.
Speaker 5: A lot of Pokemon too.
Speaker 3: The couple I've been to recently, i'd say probably like
sixty seventy percent Pokemon. But yeah, it's pretty crazy because
a lot of these towns are really small, but.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of people there. It's crazy to see
how many people are going to them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think that's happening here too. We
had a small show and really a small little I
guess you call her a town, even though we're here
in Fort Lauderdale area in Cooper City, which you know,
it's it's kind of a real small, you know, area,
and they did their first card show in Cooper City
here recent and stookes from it was here, you know,
in the area. He was staying in Best Palm and
we met up at the show and I got to
tell you, you know, it was at one of these veteran
halls type where it's pretty small, but it was packed.
It was the first show there, and it was like
crazy packed, all of the full of the dealers and
you could barely walk on, you know, in the halls,
I mean during the aisles, and I did a video.
I couldn't believe it. For the first show there. It
was packed and really a small little city and you
wouldn't expect that much out of that. So I think that, yeah,
not only are the shows coming up in the big
areas here like Miami and Fort Lauderdale, but you see
small shows coming up in places like Cooper City, which
is kind of a little little town. So I'm seeing
more shows opening in places where you would have never
expect to have shows at all.
Speaker 4: And Orlando, the people attending them and that primarily young people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a lot of young people, a lot of
modern a couple of vintage dealers, but the majority, again,
the majority were modern and Pokemon cards is what you
see in these shows. And and this the guy the
promoter was kind of a new promoter who had never
seen before, so I think this was probably his first show.
And he was a fairly young guy. So at a
lot of shows coming A.
Speaker 4: Couple of vintage dealers were thy busy.
Speaker 2: Yes, they were busy. The whole show was busy. You know,
everybody was selling them. The dealers that I spoke to,
everybody looked like they were having a good.
Speaker 4: Show, good interesting.
Speaker 2: And it was just a one day show. It went
a two day show.
Speaker 1: All right, yep, all right? Can we talk about backpacks
at shows? What's our opinion? I wear one nine sign
percent of the time, and I hate it because I'm
bumping and getting bumped. It's because those card shows are
so popular and are packed full of people.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, for me, Phil, I have a
small backpack that I carry with me when I go
to the National, when I go to Strongsville, you know,
when I go to the local shows, I don't I'll
bring it, but I have a like I wouldn't even
consider it a backpack. It's it was a little thing
they gave away at a Disney World. So it's kind
of like a little that I got a Disney World cruise.
When I went to a Disney cruise, it's a small
little backpack that I just kind of carry with me.
But those big backpacks are terrible, especially they cram them
with boxes and boxes stuff. I mean, you're just bumping
into people constantly with that. So I try to bring
just a small, you know thing. It's bigger than a
fanny pack, but it's smaller than a regular backpack. But
you got to have something to carry your cards and
you know, and when I go to the National or
a bigger show, I usually bring some cards who sell
or trade too, So I gotta have something to carry
it with. Yeah, more like a satchel.
Speaker 1: Type satchel for your satchel exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, are you taking much to the National Landa to try.
Speaker 2: I'm going to take some. Yeah, I've sent some cards
to CIA, but I'm also going to take some cards.
Not necessarily am I going to trade or sell them
if I don't have to, But if I find something
I really want, then you know, I'll have some trade
bait with me just in case. But you know, the
stuff that i'm looking to sell, I'm trying to sell
it before the national send it over to CIA and
get rid of that. Or I always contact the doll
they're going to be there, you know, like a Garrett
or stuff like that from ball park memories, and you know,
let him know what I've got and if he's interested,
then I'll bring some of that stuff. But for the
most part, I'll bring some cards that if I have
to sell, I will, but you know, it's gonna be
stuff that if I if I don't sell it, I
don't trade it. You know. If I don't find anything
I really want, I'm good. But if I need some cash,
it's always good to bring some trade bait.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think it depends too on what you're looking to buy.
Speaker 3: I mean, some people go and buy cases of stuff
for you know, five boxes or something kind of carry it,
you know, and if you're like you said, if you're
bringing stuff to trade, then sell you gotta put it somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. It was a slow hobby news week,
so scraping around for something. Did see the fact that
a article came out this week in ESPN, which you know,
when they're gonna talk sports, they're generally probably months behind
our conversations generally so, but the fact that it's might
get that many eyeballs being on that major of a
site still makes it intriguing. And that is this article here,
Uh there we go. Could box breaking be considered gambling
or lottery? Is there any chance that the sports card
industry is ever going to get any kind of regulation?
I personally, I don't think we're a big enough fish
to matter still, But any thoughts, uh, Orlando.
Speaker 2: I think they've tried to have some you know, we've
had a few lawsuits by there, but it's not gonna happen.
You know, the government's too busy trying to get their
act together. So I cannot see any regulation coming down
as far as breakers and things like that. I think,
you know, the hobby is going to have to police ourselves.
We're the ones that are going to have to, you know,
look at these bad guys, you know, and we warn
another you know, our own community or YouTube community or
or publications are going to have to do our own
plumbs down to you know, the bad guys or stuff
that's happening. Like you know, recently, a UPS worker was
literally stealing cards right from the post office and stuff
like that. And those are things that we need to
make people aware of. But as far as the government
coming down, unless it's some huge thing, which you know
there was. I mean I heard that there was one
guy that was doing healthcare fraud and when they went
to investigate, they had bought millions of dollars of cards
and fancy cars and houses with the money that they
ripped off the government. So the FBI did get involved
in that and they found you know, cards, mantle to
mantles and leaf jackies or a bunch of those he
had bought the funds that they stole. But other than that,
I don't see the government involved in any any regular
at all. I think it's gonna be up to us
and up to some of the companies like Whatnot, because
a lot of it have to be happening and whatnot.
I think they need to get involved and crack down
on it. But what's happening now we're looking at eBay Live.
We're competing against whatnot and eBay live more strict and
they're the ones that are actually picking up certain people
breakers that they want on their site instead of a
whatnot who's taking whoever wants to come in and do
it does it good or bad? You know it's it's
it's gonna be up to us to police our hobby
and let everyone know what's happening and who the bad
guys are, who the good guys are my opinion, I
have decided.
Speaker 1: Sorry, go ahead, Carl.
Speaker 4: I know what I was going to say was I
found e Bay auction quite good to deal with the
I've made this complaint numerous times before. The only problem
I have with eBay is the horrendously expensive shipping costs,
particularly to get to hear any. A single card that
I buy that cost twenty bucks is going to cost
me more than twenty bucks to get here, which I
can't control obviously. And as you're undoubtedly where eBay basically banned,
you're having direct negotiations with the seller. So unless you
can work out nefarious ways of in code telling you
and telling them you want to talk to them directly,
it's fairly difficult. And in fact, ninety nine percent of them,
if they realize that you want to talk to them directly,
they will talk to you. But it's a bit tricky.
But the other thing I was just going to mention,
someone just put up a question asking me whether I
was going to be going to the NFL game that's
going to be played in Melbourne in September, and I
most definitely am it's it's at the Cricket Ground in Melbourne.
That's the largest part of me. The largest stadium we've
got here holds just on one hundred thousand. And I'm
a member of the club that runs that. And in
saying I'm a member of the club that runs it,
the club has one hundred thousand exclusive club at all
and the NFL gave club members are first crack at tickets.
You still have to buy them. But yeah, definitely going
to that. That's going to be on our date September
the eleventh, so it'll be the tenth you audate, which
will be a Thursday, I think over there. No, it's
getting a lot of buzz, a lot of.
Speaker 3: Football game's going down there and expanding internationally.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had how long ago with it. It was about
twelve ten or twelve years ago. The Dodgers and the
Diamondbacks had their opening series in the baseball the Sydney
Cricket Ground and my son and I went to that
and it was hugely successful as well. I mean Australians
will go to any international sport that comes. We are
somewhat of sport's nut country. Now rugby is big over there.
You have a rugby, there's a rugby. There's two forms
of rugby Orlando, there's union, which traditionally came out of
the public what we call public but win in fact
private school system in England back in the nineteenth century.
Union is considered gentleman's rugby rugby league which grew out
of and it's a very similar game to rugby union.
Not quite as brutish, I have to say, because reunion's
pretty rough physically. But rugby league grew out of the
mining towns in northern England originally and came to Australia
in the late nineties. And rugby is extremely popular in
the Northern States, Queensland and New South Wales. Not so
much in Melbourne because Australian rules football grew out of
a hybrid of rugby and soccer in Melbourne during the
gold Rush period in the eighteen fifties, and even now,
crazily Melbourne has this I'm trying to think. I think
there's seventeen teams in our Australian Football League and it's
a national but twelve of those teams are based in Melbourne,
so it's incredibly It's still incredibly local in Melbourne but
gets massive crowds. I mean every weekend at the cricket
ground there's eighty thousand of the game. It doesn't matter
who's playing. And they have games starting similar to what
you guys have with your football now Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday,
Saturday afternoon Saturday night. And because there's teams now, there's
two Australian Football League teams in Sydney, two in Brisbane,
two in Adelaide, two in Perth, and twelve or thirteen
in Melbourne. And there's a new one about to begin.
It'll be the nineteenth team based in Tasmania, the island
state below us. It's very popular in the Northern States,
Atlanta particularly.
Speaker 2: I know you mentioned basketball is popular over there. Do
you think that bringing American football to Australia will help
the American football cards?
Speaker 4: Yes, doubt of it. I know you collect that football cards, Yep,
yep again vintage. I love the nineteenth and fifties US
football cards. I think they're just pieces of art to
be honest, But funnily enough, one of my grandsons, whose
dad is the one running in the New York Marathon.
He long story. He one played for an American football
under sixteen team in his local city, Geelong, which is
the nearest big city to Melbourne, and they actually won
the National underage Gridiron Championship. He played in the Victorian team,
and let me say, it's a fairly low level of
entry in terms of quality of the game. But of
course he was delighted to win. And I had said
to him months before that if they won the tournament,
I'd take him to the US on a American football tour.
So literally as he walked off the ground, he said,
when are we going to the States? And we did
that last October November, went to games at Texas A
and M Cowboys games. He has a great, great trip.
But he answered your question, it's definitely they'll be. There'll
be a boosting American football for sure.
Speaker 1: All Right, it's feeling like we are topic light this week,
so I am thinking let's just pass it around the
horn of what we got upcoming, and this just close
things out rather than drag it out. So yep, Orlando,
what's up next on deck for you?
Speaker 2: Well, I'll be going to a local card show next weekend,
the for Lauderdale Card Show. But I think the main
thing going on with me is what I what I
talked about earlier is my podcast. I'm very excited to
do that podcast with Sammy Thunder and Card Card Show Culture,
and I'll be uploading the video today, so be on
the lookout for that. But that should be fun. And
just you know, getting ready for the National, you know,
looking at my cards and seeing which cards I'm looking
to take over there and what cards do I really
love and what cars like. You know, I'm still working
on consolate dating my collection some I have so many cards,
you know, over so many years of collecting, that I'm
getting to a point that really I need to focus
some cards that I've always wanted, never been able to
get or never to afford, and use some of my
card capital to obtain some of those cards at the National.
So that's what I'm working on, and I just can't
wait to see everybody there. I know Hobby Hotline is
going to have a dinner that they have every year.
Unfortunately I think that's on a Saturday night. I think
it is. I probably won't be able to attend that,
but I'll be at the National Wednesday, Thursday and Friday,
and I'll be leaving maybe their Saturday morning, but my
flight leaves Saturday night.
Speaker 1: Well, I think John Newman was talking then he's getting
a stage time for a hobby hotline even so that'd
be interesting.
Speaker 2: If he invites me on, I'll be on and tell
me about that yet, but I'm ready to go. Last
time I was in the audience did that. I'll always
be there to watch my so called teammates be there.
Speaker 1: Brody, how about you.
Speaker 3: I'm doing the smart thing and trying to save some
money up for the Nationals. So I mean, if there's
a card shop that or a card show that pops up,
I'll go, but not lounded much.
Speaker 5: Gotta save up for the big show.
Speaker 3: But stay tuned on my socials for I'll be posting
a ton at the National and different booths to check
out and events happening.
Speaker 1: All right, and.
Speaker 2: Can we find you on the socials?
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm Brody TK on X and Brody the Kid
one on Instagram.
Speaker 4: You're not on YouTube.
Speaker 5: I do have a YouTube page. It's Brody the Kid
on YouTube as well.
Speaker 4: OKAYR Well, I'll subscribe as soon as I get off,
I had a couple of questions for you all and
I regarding the Semi thunder collaboration. What is that going
to be hosted off your channel? Or he's how does that?
How do we found it? Exactly?
Speaker 2: We're going to post on both of our champ all right,
we'll be on the Lookout and we do a you know,
it's about an hour show, and then we did a
fifteen minute kind of an after show which we continue
the conversation, and that'll be on the Sports on the
Sports Call sports Car Clubhouse. All right, that'll be probably
a fifteen to twenty minute kind of after show type
thing of the hangover. Yeah, and you, Carl, what do
you got going on?
Speaker 4: Quite so, as I said, I'm going to try and
pull with regards to buying between now and next April,
I would like to give a very bridge shoutout, but
I'm trying to find an economical price. Well, one thing
certainly won't be an economical price. I would love to
get hold of a ticket to what was the Tommy
Burns Jack Johnson fight at Raskas Bay and Sydney backing
I think nine hundred and eight or nine and ten
it's it's seemingly almost unobtainable, which which is not totally surprising.
And and the other one that I'm trying to chase
is the Babe Dietrixton cards considered Goudy card. I can't
remember now sports sports teams, that's the one. Yeah, but
again one does have certain budgetary constraints, so I just
have to manage that. But other than that, fairly quiet time.
Our football season is about half over. The team I
follow in it as on the edge of the playoffs,
having had a terrible start of the season. Funnily enough,
the finals will start in Melbourne literally the day after
the NFL game in Melbourne, so they'll be working twenty
four hours after the NFL game to reconfigure the stadium.
But other than that, quiet time will land it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Carl you channel, I thank you, simplical Carl
from OZ.
Speaker 4: It's funny. My kids, who are both adults, they were
somewhat amused when I said I was going to start
this channel, and they said, oh, how often are you
going to do it? And I said, oh, about once,
maybe twice a week. And I think I've just repelled that, John,
I think I've just recorded my seventy fifth video in
the last five months, so I think I've been a
bit obsessive. I've forward posted a few for the next
few weeks, primarily on things that I've picked up, and
I try and I'm going to try and vary this
apart from anything else. I think a lot of people
perhaps take the approach to people showing what they've picked
up all the time as simply showing off, and I
don't want to. I sincerely don't want to come across
that way. The problem I have is that I get
so excited about some of the stuff that I get
I like to display it, particularly that mister Murphy card
that you so kindly Orlando let me have a free
crackout at the auction two or three weeks ago. We've
got to do a video about that guy too, because
he's an amazing character.
Speaker 1: Anyone who takes that approach and the comments negatively, I
hope you are happier in the future, because clearly you're
not happy right now because you're crapping on somebody who
loves something and they're just excited to show it to
the world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true, that's true. That's true.
Speaker 2: So John, right now, yeah, a little.
Speaker 1: Bit while I'm o I can catch up with the
chat at the same time. So here, thank you, good
to see you again, John So. My channel, my personal
channel's been dormant for about two months, but it's a
lot of it's been busyness. One thing is organizing hobby puluse.
Oh so I mentioned that earlier at the show July seventeenth, eighteenth,
and nineteenth. Starting at Friday night, the seventeenth, seven pm Eastern,
and the Friday night is ended by Carlos so who
knows when it ends. It will probably end Saturday morning
the way those guys go. Uh. And then we're going
to be all day Saturday, starting at ten am Eastern
seven am on the West Coast for US, and what's.
Speaker 4: Happening site three am?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, sorry, Carl, I'll be the closing show Saturday
night at ten pm Eastern is Sports Card Live. Jeremy
Lee is once again simulcasting on this channel as well
as his own, and then Sunday kicking off again ten
am Sunday morning, and then the final show is going
to be our normal four collectors live stream time slot
starting at the ninety so yeah, twenty nine different show
hosts overall.
Speaker 4: So what were those dikes again?
Speaker 1: Join July seventeenth, eighteenth, and nineteenth.
Speaker 4: Okay, so got three weeks. Okay, And remember that streams.
Speaker 1: These are all live streams. I will have created playlists
for each of the days so that if you just
want to watch non stop all day long, you just
fire up that playlist and they'll run the show to
show to show as the day goes on.
Speaker 2: So remember that it's all frigniture for soldiers. That's what
it's all about. Guys.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be great to see all the YouTube co
creators on there. But the key is that we want
to raise more than the eight thousand dollars that we
raised last year, so you know, save a little bit
of money before the National to donate signiture for soldiers.
It's a great cause. And Brody anything else you need
to say about that, because I know they're your friends.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, Tim's awesome. I like I said too. I
would make sure you go on check out his eBay
and follow him on X. He's always posting stuff on
X and National too. If you see me, say.
Speaker 2: Hi, and he'll have a booth right at the National
this year.
Speaker 4: He does not oh he does not this year, Okay,
help can on don You will.
Speaker 1: Have all that information very clear. This year we're gone.
I'm not working as an intermediary. I've had enough of
trying to do that. I know it helps for doing
real time, same day prize giveaways because then I know
exactly who's done the charity and I can set up
those wheels to spin, because the thing we do each
time is every ten dollars you donate gets you a
name on the wheel. And so there are various prizes.
Once again, Scott from Reindeer Studios is generously offering his
time to create a custom piece of artwork for the show.
And there'll be various other prizes in the mix that
are donated by some of our sponsors as well as
just some folks in the community that generously want to
throw a prize in the mix. And all that detail
will be coming soon. I'm trying to put together the
previews show as one of my four collectors released this
week midweek, so so all that information should be compiled soon.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 1: Outside of that, I'm also hosting the live stream tomorrow
that is nine Eastern. We've got just a group for
a fun card showing of collectors. The theme for this
is going to be where all picking our favorites or
best or however they want to pick it. Card for
each position major League player, you know, baseball. You know,
it could be anywhere from a modern card to an
old pre war card. I mean, I'm thinking about my picks.
I've got a nineties card, an eighties card in the
mix as well as going all the way back. So
it should be a fun card showing. And then so
like I said, it's my turn also for the pre
record show, which I will be getting that information out
this week as far as how the donations will work,
as well as previewing a bit of who all the
host lineup is and you know, giving at least the
preliminary times before maybe people start to beg me to
ask to switch. That's that's a lot of what I've
been doing the last month is contacting all these people.
You know, a few folks are on vacation, so then
I bring in somebody else into the mix, and uh yeah,
it's a bit of work organizing a twenty nine different
hosts live stream over three days. So but it's all
for a good cause and I hope you will all
be donating generously for that. So that's all I've got
for this week. So thank you once again to the
chat it's you know, it's not a show without you
interacting with us. It's always good fun. So thank you.
We will be back next Saturday again for Hobby Hotline.
So goodbye for now.
Speaker 4: Thanks for letting me on, John, thank you. Great to
have you, Carl, thank you, thank you for listening to
this episode of Hobby Hotline. I just want to remind
everyone we are a live show every Saturday morning, eleven
am eastern eight am Pacific on the four Collectors channel
on YouTube.
Speaker 3: That's the number four, the word Collector's channel on YouTube.
Speaker 4: We hope to see many of you live on a
future Saturday.
Speaker 3: We have a great interactive chat room and we always
provide a link for anyone that wants to come on
the show and chop it up with us.
Speaker 4: So that's a reminder. Every Saturday, eleven am eastern eight
am Pacific, only four Collectors channel on YouTube. Hope to
see you on the show.