WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:47.439 Oh well, thats are hello and welcome to the show. 2 00:00:47.799 --> 00:00:51.119 This is the Cult of Conspiracy and my name is 3 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:55.759 Jonathan Jacob and today we are going all in on 4 00:00:56.520 --> 00:01:02.719 the vaporing, canceling, cancelation and and why is why are 5 00:01:02.799 --> 00:01:04.280 vapes being criminalized? 6 00:01:04.319 --> 00:01:04.560 Now? 7 00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:07.439 Why are they taking off the shelves? I mean, do 8 00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:13.280 they really care about your health? The quick answer is 9 00:01:13.599 --> 00:01:14.519 absolutely fucking not. 10 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:17.400 Now, before we start all of this, we do need 11 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:20.719 to give this disclaimer. Okay, the Cult of Conspiracy is 12 00:01:20.760 --> 00:01:24.200 not trying to promote big tobacco or big vape. Okay, 13 00:01:24.239 --> 00:01:27.040 We're not getting sponsored from any of these people. We do, 14 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:30.680 in fact acknowledge that nicotine is an addictive substance and 15 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:33.319 that everybody should do what they can to relieve themselves 16 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:36.719 of their vices rather than get more heavily. With that 17 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:40.079 that being said, Jonathan and I are also heavily addicted 18 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:42.680 to nicotine. Let's be very open and honest about it 19 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:44.000 before we even kickstarted. 20 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:47.319 Yes, yes, And to be honest in doing this research, 21 00:01:47.359 --> 00:01:49.560 I was trying to make sure, all right, am I 22 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:51.920 just looking at this from a biased angle? 23 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:52.959 Like? 24 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:56.359 Am I just saying that vaping is healthier? Because I 25 00:01:56.439 --> 00:01:59.400 prefer to vape over smoking cigarettes. I smoked cigarettes for 26 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:02.760 I think twelve thirteen years or something like that until 27 00:02:02.799 --> 00:02:06.480 I switched over to vaping. And I knew the moment 28 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:09.319 that I switched over from cigarettes to vaping because I 29 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:12.520 was playing semi pro football that during that transition, right, 30 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:16.919 and I could tell just with my lung capacity and 31 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:21.199 with my overall endurance, I was able to run a 32 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:23.719 little bit longer, run a little bit faster, not be 33 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:27.400 so as so like winded or anything like that. I 34 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:30.159 knew that there was like an immediate difference from whenever 35 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:32.840 I made that transition, And I was thinking, well, is 36 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:36.199 this just in my mind? Is this placebo is there? 37 00:02:36.439 --> 00:02:39.080 I want it to be true, So it is, you know, 38 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:42.120 like you never know exactly how the fucking human mind is. 39 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:44.879 I mean, it's a whole matrix in and of itself, 40 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:47.159 so you gotta, you know, kind of test these things. 41 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:50.840 That being said, whenever I did make that transition, I 42 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:53.159 felt so much better. And so I've been vaping ever since. 43 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:55.280 And what's great about it, well not what's great about it, 44 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:58.879 but it's it tastes better than cigarettes. You can vape indoors. 45 00:02:58.960 --> 00:03:00.560 I mean, I fucking vape on it their plane. They 46 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:03.520 tell you not too, but I mean, yeah, I'm such 47 00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:07.080 an addict that, like, you know, anyway. 48 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:08.439 I get it. Wait, how old were you when you 49 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:09.159 started smoking? 50 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:15.439 Seventeen? Okay, sixteen seventeen something like that. 51 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:18.039 So I was sixteen when I started smoking, right, But 52 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:21.479 I smoked cigars. I didn't pick up cigarettes until I 53 00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:25.439 was halfway through my enlistment in the Marine Corps, matter 54 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:28.280 of fact, because cigars are an expensive habit to have, 55 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:31.319 like to get at the time anyway, because I didn't 56 00:03:31.319 --> 00:03:33.639 know where to shop. I can get a decent cigar 57 00:03:33.719 --> 00:03:36.400 for like fifteen bucks a pop. Bro, I'm not trying 58 00:03:36.439 --> 00:03:39.000 to kill fifteen dollars a day for me to go 59 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:42.080 outside for two hours and burn that bitch down, Like 60 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:45.159 no way. But I did develop a nicotine addiction from that. 61 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:48.159 I still chewed. I didn't use dip. I can't do dip. 62 00:03:48.159 --> 00:03:50.439 But like chew man, you get you some Levi Garrett, 63 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:54.560 some some red Man gold blend. That was my shit, 64 00:03:54.639 --> 00:03:57.599 or maybe some beech nut, oh dude, and that was 65 00:03:57.639 --> 00:03:59.759 my shit. Basically the entire time I was in the 66 00:03:59.800 --> 00:04:03.120 Marine course, I had an entire mouthful of chew and 67 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:05.360 then once a day, I'd go outside and smoke a 68 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:08.960 piper or a cigar, and then I swapped to Marlboro Reds 69 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:11.960 and then later on swap to American Spirit Blacks. Right, 70 00:04:12.080 --> 00:04:15.280 But all of that to say, it was around the 71 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:18.800 time when I swapped to cigarettes where my cardio went 72 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:21.560 to absolute shit. And it wasn't like I was the 73 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:23.959 stud of my platoon by any means. As far as 74 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:27.399 running goes, I was decent. I wentn't great soon as 75 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:29.439 I started smoking, and it was never like I went 76 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:31.079 like a two pack a day kind of guy. It 77 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:33.000 would take me like three days to kill a pack, 78 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:35.199 you know, just every so often you go outside and 79 00:04:35.279 --> 00:04:38.360 take a smoke break kind of thing. And still I 80 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:41.360 felt to my cardio go down. I could feel myself 81 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:44.439 being unhealthy, and at the time I kind of liked 82 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:46.480 it because I had I had gotten lazy with it, 83 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:47.879 so I was like, yeah, I just kind of all 84 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:51.720 flowed in the same direction. You know, cut too swapped 85 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:56.560 to vaping when well often one swapping between cigarettes and 86 00:04:56.600 --> 00:05:01.600 vaping because twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, vaping wasn't what it 87 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:03.600 was now. You know, you had those little like it 88 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:05.560 was like a pin that looked like the weed pens 89 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:07.519 these days, but like it was a refillable thing. You'd 90 00:05:07.519 --> 00:05:09.040 have to buy the little juice and all of that, 91 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:12.120 and it the flavors weren't the best. You had to 92 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:14.360 constantly go buy new batteries, and you had to buy 93 00:05:14.439 --> 00:05:17.439 new little tanks because like, if you're using something though, 94 00:05:17.439 --> 00:05:20.399 like a citrus flavor, then you couldn't use the plastic 95 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:22.759 little tank. You had to use a glass tank. And 96 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:25.839 then remember when the big stupid mods came out and 97 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:28.040 these people were blowing like enough of a cloud to 98 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:31.079 clear out an entire room from what was in their lungs. 99 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:32.720 And like fucking tugboats. Bro, I remember that? 100 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:35.800 Yeah, yeah, dude. Then they had vaping teams. You remember 101 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:39.879 that vaping teams? Yeah, dude. The Cloud Chasers was the 102 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:43.720 local team. They would do competitions with other vaping groups, 103 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:47.160 and it was like, Okay, this is getting fatty or 104 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:48.839 trendy or whatever you want to call it. And it's 105 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:51.920 like that's I'm just trying to get my nicotine fixed. 106 00:05:51.920 --> 00:05:54.480 I ain't trying to like be one of that click 107 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:55.480 by any means. 108 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:59.240 But yeah, yeah, and so I was around the same thing. 109 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:02.040 I mean, I to be honest, I had been smoking 110 00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:05.199 since I was fifteen, but I didn't start regularly like 111 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:08.639 needing it, like addicted to it until I was seventeen, 112 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:12.040 I would say, because I mean my parents smoked. Everybody 113 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:16.000 and my family smoked, like my aunts and uncles and 114 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:18.759 shit like that. All my friends smoked and everything. So 115 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:20.920 it was I mean, it wasn't hard for me to 116 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:24.480 jump on that train and so but yeah, I mean 117 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:27.879 it pulled me right in. And that's the nicotine. And 118 00:06:27.959 --> 00:06:31.839 believe it or not, cigarette companies they use certain chemicals 119 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:34.360 to make the nicotine even more addictive. 120 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:37.839 Yes they do. That's why I still prefer cigars. Man. 121 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:40.839 I love still to this day, I love cigars. And yeah, 122 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:43.399 you can become addicted to cigars. Yes, they are not 123 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:47.519 nearly as addictive of cigarettes. We're talking by a leaps 124 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:49.199 and bounds worth of a margin. 125 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:51.959 So we're gonna be getting into a lot of the 126 00:06:52.600 --> 00:06:57.879 data that the backs that every everything that is surrounding 127 00:06:57.920 --> 00:06:59.920 this whole vape band. A lot of states have already 128 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:04.439 and them, some of them are even criminalizing them, and 129 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:08.720 it's it's pretty wild. And I know that Louisiana just 130 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:10.800 recently banned them, was it a few months ago. 131 00:07:11.560 --> 00:07:15.040 Yeah, that's a motherfucker. I gotta go to some underground 132 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:17.439 places to get a vape these days, and or if 133 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:19.279 I travel out of state, I just buy like twenty 134 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:20.600 of the mugs and stock up. 135 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:21.399 Yeah. 136 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:23.800 Well, in the same over here. As of September one, 137 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:29.480 Texas is banning vapes and not just not just like 138 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:33.959 nicotine vapes, but also the weed vapes too. Really yep, 139 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:38.120 they're banning it all. And wow, it's crazy, dude like Texas, 140 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:40.160 I feel like we are just fucking rolling back to 141 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:44.360 prohibition times. I mean, do they not understand that when 142 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:48.279 you make something illegal that it only fuels the black market, 143 00:07:48.519 --> 00:07:51.879 Like common fucking sense, bro, that's how this goes. 144 00:07:51.920 --> 00:07:53.759 How do you think the mafia got to have so 145 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:57.199 much power and influence? It was because prohibition happened, and 146 00:07:57.240 --> 00:08:00.480 these dudes are already doing illegal activities. You just made 147 00:08:00.600 --> 00:08:03.759 a whole new market for them. And that now everybody 148 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:05.160 knows that if they want to get a drink, they're 149 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:07.720 gonna have to go to some sort of an illegal 150 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:10.680 means to get it. People are not gonna quit their 151 00:08:10.759 --> 00:08:14.839 nicotine addiction because big Daddy government said so. If anything, 152 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:18.120 this will push more people to go back to smoking 153 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:20.800 rather than quitting. But that's not good. 154 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:24.480 Well that's their goal in general. And I will say 155 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:29.279 this too, that a lot of the the big tobacco 156 00:08:29.519 --> 00:08:34.360 companies are actually buying some of the vape companies. So 157 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:36.679 what is it Philip Moore. 158 00:08:36.679 --> 00:08:40.600 Us, Yeah, Philip Morris owns Views, if I'm not mistaken. 159 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:44.799 Views and Jewel A Yeah, Jewel ship with Jewel. A 160 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:46.879 couple of years ago, they were trying to ban all 161 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:50.799 the all the flavored ones. All of that is it. 162 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:54.840 They don't care about like protecting the kids at all, 163 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:57.519 Like if kids you think they got a problem with 164 00:08:57.600 --> 00:08:59.759 kids lighting up a fucking cigarette. I mean they might 165 00:08:59.799 --> 00:09:02.159 say that they do, but that's not really what they're after. 166 00:09:02.440 --> 00:09:05.240 They're using the flavor to target the kids, which it's 167 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:08.080 not even really targeting the kids that it's just targeting 168 00:09:08.480 --> 00:09:12.519 the vape industry. And because the vape industry outside of 169 00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:15.120 the couple of vape companies that they know or that 170 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:22.039 they own that are within you know, regulatory guidelines, it's dude, 171 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:25.080 it is a full on clusterfuck of everything that we're 172 00:09:25.080 --> 00:09:29.320 gonna be getting into today. So we're gonna start right here. 173 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:32.000 So the vape pan it's not about your health. We're 174 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:34.960 going to be getting into that. They say it's for 175 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:37.639 your health. They say it's to protect the kids, to 176 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:41.240 stop another generation from being addicted, to prevent a public 177 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:44.879 health crisis. But if that were true, explain this wire cigarettes, 178 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:47.720 products that kill half of their long term users and 179 00:09:47.759 --> 00:09:51.879 contain thousands of chemicals, dozens of which are known carcinogens, 180 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:55.039 still sold in every gas station, every corner store, and 181 00:09:55.080 --> 00:09:58.159 still heavily taxed by the same government claiming that vaping 182 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:01.039 is a big threat. It doesn't makes sense. Why are 183 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:04.120 food dies banned in Europe still in your cereal? Why 184 00:10:04.200 --> 00:10:07.360 is fluoride in your water but lead pipes still delivering it. 185 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:10.279 Why is the air filled with industrial pollutants and wild 186 00:10:10.360 --> 00:10:13.240 chemical spills swept under the rug? And why does the 187 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:15.960 nightly news feed you fear and rage instead of truth 188 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:19.600 and solutions. If this system truly cared about your health, 189 00:10:19.720 --> 00:10:22.360 they go after all of it. But they don't, And 190 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:24.720 vaping is just the latest battlefield in a war that 191 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:26.879 has nothing to do with your lungs and everything to 192 00:10:26.919 --> 00:10:29.600 do with your wallet, your choices, and your freedom. Today 193 00:10:29.639 --> 00:10:32.039 we're going to lay out the whole story, the science 194 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:35.000 the propaganda, the money trail, and the players pulling the strings. 195 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:37.320 And by the end, you won't just see the vape 196 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:39.919 band for what it is, You'll see the entire machine 197 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:43.759 that keeps you under its fist. Now, I'm personally somebody, 198 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:49.799 and this may be somewhat controversial, I think that every 199 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:56.679 single thing drug, nicotine, alcohol, should all be entirely legal 200 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:02.639 because whenever you illegalize something, you create a black market 201 00:11:02.639 --> 00:11:05.440 for said thing, which makes it even more dangerous and 202 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:07.960 more harmful. And now you can spike it with all 203 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:11.679 these different things and it's not regulated by anybody or anything. 204 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:14.000 Not that I necessarily have a whole lot of faith 205 00:11:14.039 --> 00:11:17.000 in the FDA in general, because look at what they 206 00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:19.480 legalize in our country. Just with the fucking food dies 207 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:21.679 in the cereal is enough to make your head spin. 208 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:25.679 So but at least there's some bottom line to it, 209 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:28.320 you know what I'm saying, Like it has to go 210 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:32.120 through some kind of custom to where if the FDA 211 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:34.399 approves it, at least you can go after the FDA 212 00:11:34.559 --> 00:11:37.200 if you die or or you know, come up on 213 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:38.559 a cancer or something like that. 214 00:11:38.639 --> 00:11:42.159 Right, I don't necessarily disagree with what you just said. 215 00:11:42.519 --> 00:11:45.559 I think that pretty much everything should be legal. I 216 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:51.279 will give small exceptions, like, all right, I know very 217 00:11:51.320 --> 00:11:55.360 successful alcoholics, right, So to say that alcohol is ruining 218 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:59.600 people's lives, it can, but that's not inherent to alcohol, right, 219 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:03.480 that's like inherent to addicts. Okay, fair enough. I know 220 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:09.559 tons of successful smokers, right, I know tons of successful stoners, 221 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:14.279 like very high level successful people who smoke we like crazy. 222 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:20.279 I know successful meth heads. I don't know any successful 223 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:25.080 heroin addicts. I will give a disclaimer that opiates. I 224 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:28.080 think we should still have some sort of like if 225 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:31.799 not outright bands, some sort of like serious regulations on that. 226 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:34.200 And there's a few other exceptions that you could throw 227 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:37.720 out to where it's like, yeah, like if you give 228 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:40.720 this substance to ten people, maybe one of them will 229 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:44.240 be okay, not even like doing better or worse, like 230 00:12:44.360 --> 00:12:47.279 even neutral, nine out of ten are going downhill quick 231 00:12:47.320 --> 00:12:50.039 because of it. Fentanyl is another one, Like I don't 232 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:52.639 know many people that are addicted to fentanyl that are 233 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:56.000 like doing so hot right now, That's what I'm saying. 234 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:59.519 There's levels to it, but for the majority of it, alcohol, tobacco, 235 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:02.399 and most illicit substances, I agree that it should be 236 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:03.159 completely legal. 237 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:07.240 It's the conversation with the war on drugs, That's really 238 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:10.399 what it's all about. Like people, you know, you have 239 00:13:10.600 --> 00:13:12.879 your government, your country telling you that you need to 240 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:14.600 get drugs off the street. You need to get all 241 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:17.559 these things off the street. Meanwhile, the government and the CIA, 242 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:21.159 the FBI, whoever is the one that is funneling all 243 00:13:21.159 --> 00:13:25.039 these drugs in here via cartel or you know illegal 244 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:27.759 you know black ops type shit, I mean, or a 245 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:34.600 pharmacy bill Clinton back in the nineties right over in Arkansas. 246 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:38.039 I mean, it's it. They don't care like the way 247 00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:42.879 that they say they do. They care because these things 248 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:46.200 have have a little something to say with their pocketbook. 249 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:48.440 That's really what it's all about. 250 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:51.799 It's this lobbying group's got the most money to push 251 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:53.879 the agenda and get the votes to sway whatever they 252 00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:56.200 whichever way they want. That's what it boils down to. 253 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:00.879 It's all about policy. And certain policies may make them 254 00:14:00.919 --> 00:14:03.600 some money, and certain policies don't make them any money. 255 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:07.120 And you think that the like and we're gonna get 256 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:10.480 to like the the taxes that are on cigarettes. I 257 00:14:10.519 --> 00:14:15.080 don't know if you've looked at cigarette prices lately. Yeah, ly, shit, 258 00:14:15.399 --> 00:14:18.159 I am so happy I don't smoke cigarettes anymore. What 259 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:22.879 an expensive hot hobby, right or rap addiction? Yeah, like 260 00:14:23.080 --> 00:14:26.120 it is crazy, and they they have taken that and 261 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:30.000 run with it because like, well, smoking is bad, so 262 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:33.360 we can we can put a nicotine or a tobacco 263 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:36.519 tax on it, and that's how we feel justified. Meanwhile, 264 00:14:36.519 --> 00:14:40.000 they're reaping in the fucking rewards they're collecting on people 265 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:42.519 who are going broke because of this shit, because you're 266 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:44.519 the one that made us all addicted to it in 267 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:47.200 the first place by not only getting us hooked on 268 00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:52.320 an addictive chemical, but you amplified said addictive chemical so 269 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:55.799 much so to where it is damn near what for what? 270 00:14:56.159 --> 00:14:59.080 As far as like, uh, if you're trying to give 271 00:14:59.159 --> 00:15:03.279 up on nicotine, they say, it's actually similar. It is 272 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:07.320 similar to break the hobbit or the habit of nicotine. 273 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:10.039 I keep on wanting to say, hobbit the habit of nicotine. 274 00:15:10.440 --> 00:15:15.600 It's similar to fucking heroin. Yeah, it is the way 275 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:18.679 that it processes in your brain is the exact same 276 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:20.639 thing to the same extent, if. 277 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:25.759 Not more one hundred percent, dude, And so nobody really 278 00:15:25.799 --> 00:15:29.519 wants to have that kind of conversation. But here's the deal. 279 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:33.679 Cigarettes didn't used to be that expensive, like by comparison. Yes, 280 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:36.720 I understand the cost of living goes up the devaluation 281 00:15:36.799 --> 00:15:39.279 of the dollar. A pack of smokes costs you more 282 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:41.440 in two thousand and five than it did in nineteen 283 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:44.679 seventy five. Like, okay, fine, that that conversation. I understand 284 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:45.919 a gallon of gas the same way. 285 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:49.799 Course ten years alone, cigarette prices have more than doubled. 286 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:54.679 Exactly. Here's the deal. You know where that's started. President 287 00:15:54.720 --> 00:16:00.720 Old Barryhusein Obama, Okay, put on a luxury tax on cigarettes. 288 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:03.159 Keep in mind that dude was chained smoking cools like 289 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:05.440 it was going out of style. He was, and I 290 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:07.480 can verify that I was stationed in DC. I've seen 291 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:11.639 the motherfucker. Okay, cools are Newports. I do believe it 292 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:13.399 was Cools. I know it was menthol you could tell 293 00:16:13.399 --> 00:16:16.279 by the smell, but I I want to say it 294 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:18.679 was Cools. Maybe it was some high dollar meenthoal. I 295 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:22.240 don't fucking know, but you know what, I kind of 296 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:25.840 hope it was Newports, you know, And that's legit if 297 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:28.960 you're gonna smoke a menthol smoke, a proper menthol smoke. 298 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:30.080 One's going to hit you in your. 299 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:32.279 Chest, you know that one that was called it was 300 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:35.279 like Benson and Hedges or something like that, the real 301 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:38.720 like fancy, like oh god. 302 00:16:38.519 --> 00:16:40.919 Now I'm trying to remember. I thought you didn't want 303 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:42.519 to cloth For a second, I was like, nah, I'm 304 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:44.399 closed cigarettes. That was a whole other other thing. 305 00:16:44.960 --> 00:16:47.080 I think it was called Benson and Hedges or something 306 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:50.559 along those lines. It was like Benson in something and 307 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:54.639 they they actually people preferred to smoke those for the 308 00:16:54.679 --> 00:16:57.879 longest time because they didn't have the Fire Safe Cigarette 309 00:16:58.159 --> 00:17:01.960 FSC logo on them. And yeah, well the FSC you know, 310 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:06.559 those things were designed allegedly to prevent people's houses from 311 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:08.359 burning down if they fall asleep with a cigarette in 312 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:12.480 their hand. Don't look at actually what's in the FSC, 313 00:17:12.759 --> 00:17:17.119 which is even more carcinogens that than the original cigarette 314 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:17.759 already had. 315 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:20.480 Wait a minute, do you mean to tell me that 316 00:17:20.720 --> 00:17:25.839 lighting and inhaling the smoke of fire retardant materials literally 317 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:28.839 chemicals chemical compounds that are meant to put out fire, 318 00:17:29.400 --> 00:17:32.799 and lighting that and then inhaling it, that's worse for 319 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:36.559 your health than lighting a leaf. Wait a minute, are 320 00:17:36.599 --> 00:17:39.440 we sure about this? Is there science to back that client? Now, 321 00:17:39.480 --> 00:17:40.559 I'm with you one hundred percent. 322 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:42.759 A Jacob euphemism. 323 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:49.119 Color me shocked, right, but no, one hundred percent. So 324 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:52.160 when Obama put on that luxury tax, people want to 325 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:57.960 say it was to incentivize smokers to quit, but it 326 00:17:58.079 --> 00:18:00.640 wasn't like a doubling of the price. It was a 327 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:03.160 small incremental thing to how we got to this point. 328 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:05.160 Like you said, in the past ten to fifteen years, 329 00:18:05.359 --> 00:18:07.880 cigarettes have doubled in price, but it didn't start with 330 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:11.599 that initial jump. It went maybe a quarter more per pack. 331 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:14.279 Then it was like seventy five cents more pack a dollar. 332 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:17.000 I mean, it's just a dollar, you know whatever that 333 00:18:17.039 --> 00:18:22.519 shit adds up. But it's a really crazy comparison to 334 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:25.680 look at the timeframe in which vaping became more popular 335 00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:27.720 and it was starting to go a little more mainstream, 336 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:29.599 even if it was the old school with the little 337 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:32.759 pins and the little fillers or whatever. Right around the 338 00:18:32.799 --> 00:18:35.559 time where you started seeing vape shops pop up is 339 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:39.960 around the time when a luxury tax got added onto cigarettes. 340 00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:42.960 Is that because they wanted to incentivize people to quit? 341 00:18:43.319 --> 00:18:46.000 Or is that because Philip Morris and other big tobacco 342 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:48.880 companies were losing profit margins, so they had to do 343 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:50.200 something to cover the gap. 344 00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:54.799 That's actually a good point you, I would say that 345 00:18:54.799 --> 00:18:58.839 that's probably the main argument that I would think so 346 00:18:59.000 --> 00:19:02.079 the most amount of sense whenever they're really starting, because 347 00:19:02.079 --> 00:19:05.400 if you think about it, if you have less users, 348 00:19:05.480 --> 00:19:07.680 you're bringing in less money. So what if you doubled 349 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:14.480 the price. That way, if your consumer decides to cut 350 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:16.960 in half, you just double it. Now you're you're equaling 351 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:17.880 what you used to equal. 352 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:20.920 But the tax didn't go to Philip Morris, right, that 353 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:23.640 went to the US government. And here's where things get 354 00:19:23.640 --> 00:19:28.440 a little shitty, right, lobbyists make up the money to 355 00:19:28.559 --> 00:19:31.200 give to the politicians, and they don't Sometimes they give 356 00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:34.440 it in one lump sum. Sometimes it's an installments. And 357 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:37.799 if your company is losing money but you still need 358 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:41.039 to make your monthly payment to whatever politician you made 359 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:44.759 this deal with, you have to backdoor that shit. So 360 00:19:44.839 --> 00:19:47.920 that's where the luxury tax came from. Philip Morris wasn't 361 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:50.880 handing over a check to these people anymore, but they 362 00:19:50.920 --> 00:19:53.960 incentivize the government to pass a luxury tax to where 363 00:19:54.079 --> 00:19:57.599 they were still they being the politicians, were still getting 364 00:19:57.640 --> 00:20:00.000 their monthly cut. You see what I'm saying. 365 00:20:00.279 --> 00:20:04.359 Well, and what's interesting too, is just because i've I mean, 366 00:20:04.359 --> 00:20:08.240 obviously we're very clearly vapors. And yeah, a lot of times, 367 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:10.880 whenever you know you shouldn't be doing something, you almost 368 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:12.759 don't even want to look at the data because you 369 00:20:12.759 --> 00:20:14.559 don't want to have to give it up. It like 370 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:18.039 come and you know, contact with the information that shows 371 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:21.279 that like it's poisoning you, you're gonna die, right, Yeah, 372 00:20:21.319 --> 00:20:24.119 we have met. Like dude, my great grandma, I think 373 00:20:24.160 --> 00:20:26.960 she died like in her late eighties and she was 374 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:29.839 still smoking cigarettes. So yeah, I think that it affects 375 00:20:29.880 --> 00:20:31.200 every like people differently. 376 00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:35.119 Yeah, but those smokers that have lived to be ninety 377 00:20:35.200 --> 00:20:38.079 five still smoking two packs a day and they've never 378 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:40.559 had the first bit of lung cancer, heart problems or 379 00:20:40.599 --> 00:20:43.599 in physema. Right. I also know people that have their 380 00:20:43.599 --> 00:20:45.880 first heart attack by the time they're forty because they 381 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:48.720 smoke it. I think it's the same conversation to say that, 382 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:52.599 like cancer affects people differently. It all goes down to genetics. 383 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:57.400 Some people's genetic bloodline are more prone to cancer. They're 384 00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:00.559 more susceptible to develop cancer and other people people are not. 385 00:21:01.519 --> 00:21:03.079 I think that's just the way it works out. 386 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:07.640 Well. The Chinese are the ones that I believe invented 387 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:11.200 vaping in the beginning, which happened in two thousand and four. 388 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:14.440 So the story of vaping traices back to China in 389 00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:17.039 two thousand and four when the vaping product first was 390 00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:20.640 introduced to the market, and from there quickly gain moment momentum, 391 00:21:20.680 --> 00:21:22.839 spreading to other parts of the world and evolving into 392 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:25.319 the diverse array of devices and flavors that we see today. 393 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:30.039 So and I remember this, dude, because my dad, My 394 00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:32.359 dad used to travel to China for work all the time, 395 00:21:32.680 --> 00:21:35.599 and this was right around that time that he was traveling. 396 00:21:35.799 --> 00:21:37.440 And I remember a time, dude, it was like two 397 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:39.480 thousand and four, two thousand and five, he brought some 398 00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:40.279 of those vapes. 399 00:21:40.279 --> 00:21:40.480 Home. 400 00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:44.119 Now, they weren't as like, you know, delicious as we 401 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:47.680 are today. Like they're dangerous. I mean, I swear it's 402 00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:50.440 like hitting these vapes is like taking a bite out 403 00:21:50.519 --> 00:21:54.839 of a fucking piece of strawberry cheesecake nowadays. Literally yeah, yeah, 404 00:21:54.920 --> 00:22:00.240 literally quite literally. And so yeah, it's it's it's evolve 405 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:03.559 over time, and they've learned about how to deliver it 406 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:06.359 a little bit better, and that throat hit in the back, 407 00:22:06.519 --> 00:22:08.799 and you know, how to make the batteries last longer 408 00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:12.519 and all these things. Right, But we're going to uh, 409 00:22:12.559 --> 00:22:13.480 all right, we're gonna. 410 00:22:13.240 --> 00:22:14.599 Get to the Chinese. 411 00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:16.359 Dude, Chinese graded it. 412 00:22:16.440 --> 00:22:19.480 Yeah, so wait a minute, just we're all clear here. 413 00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:21.839 This is new information to me. Hold on, are you 414 00:22:21.960 --> 00:22:24.519 telling me that vapes are commy? 415 00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:29.960 I'm telling you that vaping comes from China. Yeah. 416 00:22:30.599 --> 00:22:33.279 That kind of has me a little perplexed. 417 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:37.160 Everything that you have ever smoked has come from China. 418 00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:39.640 And that makes me feel like we need to hear 419 00:22:39.640 --> 00:22:41.079 from more Malaysian correspondent. 420 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:43.160 Don't trust China. 421 00:22:43.359 --> 00:22:49.000 Chinese asshole, there you go. Damn, I you know, I 422 00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:51.400 didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know that I'm 423 00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:54.119 puffing on commy batteries here, man, shit, Now I got 424 00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:55.799 to change the whole perspective out of life. 425 00:22:56.440 --> 00:22:59.119 Yeah, I mean, I get it, due, I do get it. 426 00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:02.559 And honestly, that was like my main hang up with 427 00:23:02.680 --> 00:23:05.160 vaping too, because you always see it. It's always made 428 00:23:05.160 --> 00:23:07.359 in China, every single one of them. Yeah, And so 429 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:09.359 I started doing a little bit of research, and now, 430 00:23:09.720 --> 00:23:12.559 even though that they are still made in China, the 431 00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:15.160 majority of them, not all of them, But even though 432 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:17.920 they're made in China, you're still going to see how 433 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:22.480 much more safe they are than cigarettes. Oh yeah, this 434 00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:26.640 is the whole TikTok conversation all over again. I would 435 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:28.960 rather get poisoned by my own government than a government 436 00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:30.519 from a foreign government. 437 00:23:31.200 --> 00:23:34.400 Yes, yes, I would the same with like the baby toys, 438 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:37.440 right Fisher Price. They had lawsuits because China was putting 439 00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:40.039 lead based paints into toys even into the early two 440 00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:43.119 thousands that they knew babies are gonna put in their mouth. 441 00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:47.359 You know, I have a healthy distrust of China. But 442 00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:49.680 fuck man. Now, the vape conversation's coming up. This one 443 00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:50.799 hits close to home. 444 00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:54.839 So governments roll out the same talking points. Vaping is unsafe, 445 00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:57.640 we don't know the long term effects, kids are using 446 00:23:57.680 --> 00:24:01.480 the using them at alarming rates, and an epidemic of 447 00:24:01.559 --> 00:24:05.839 nicotine addiction is brewing. In twenty nineteen, US headlines screamed 448 00:24:05.839 --> 00:24:09.400 about a mysterious vaping related lung illness. The CDC labeled 449 00:24:09.400 --> 00:24:13.200 it as an epidemic. Politicians moved to ban flavored vapes 450 00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:17.400 and public panic skyrocketed, but buried in the fine print 451 00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:22.960 was almost every case was linked to illicit THC cartridges 452 00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:28.519 contaminated with vitamin e ascetate, not legal in nicotine vapes. 453 00:24:28.759 --> 00:24:31.759 The panic was real, but the target was misinterpreted. When 454 00:24:31.799 --> 00:24:35.000 you strip away the hysteria, you find what. Public Health 455 00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:38.400 England and Royal College of Physicians in the UK already 456 00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:42.680 concluded that vaping is far less harmful than smoking and 457 00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:46.759 should be promoted as a harm reduction tool. But here 458 00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:49.759 in the United States and other countries that message gets 459 00:24:49.799 --> 00:24:53.160 buried because it doesn't fit the controlled narrative. So I'm 460 00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:57.000 a popcorn lung that whole, like all of it. I mean, yeah, 461 00:24:57.039 --> 00:24:57.960 that's the main one. 462 00:24:58.400 --> 00:25:01.039 Okay, So I remember them try to There was like 463 00:25:01.240 --> 00:25:04.240 newscasters on Fox and CNN that were having these people 464 00:25:04.279 --> 00:25:07.680 come on and talk about popcorn long that was never 465 00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:11.359 an epidemic. There was only a few cases of that 466 00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:15.200 ever really brought forward. And again we're talking about how 467 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:17.759 many people vape and how many of these people have 468 00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:21.559 an epidemic of popcorn long Like, that's not that's not 469 00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:24.680 accurate to say, But boy, the media acted like it was. 470 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:28.279 Oh yeah, yeah, and and and I'm I have some 471 00:25:28.319 --> 00:25:30.279 of those articles that we're gonna pull up. We're gonna 472 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:35.480 read right from what was it again, the Public Health 473 00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:39.079 England and the Royal College of Physicians of Physicians in 474 00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:43.400 the UK. And it's documented shit like these, aren't, you know, 475 00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:46.759 like some spin off spoof shit. This is all these are, 476 00:25:46.759 --> 00:25:50.640 like peer reviewed journals. They have no reason to give 477 00:25:50.680 --> 00:25:53.400 this information, you know what I'm saying. Like you can 478 00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:58.319 tell that it's not swayed in you know, four big 479 00:25:58.359 --> 00:26:02.559 to apps like you could argue that Big Tobacco probably 480 00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:04.119 came after them for those articles. 481 00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:06.200 Oh I'm sure they did. 482 00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:10.880 So what is really in a vape versus a cigarette? 483 00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:14.279 This is going to this is going to really blow 484 00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:18.119 it wide open. So first of all, and this is 485 00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:23.880 in celsius, so aery drink, no, no, no celsius as 486 00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:24.799 opposed to fahrenheit. 487 00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:25.720 Oh okay. 488 00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:28.559 So I don't know why it's written that way, but 489 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:31.759 it says that a cigarette burns at up to nine 490 00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:36.119 hundred degrees celsius. What does that convert to in American degrees? 491 00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:40.039 I'm looking that up right now, So giving that number 492 00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:41.119 one more time, sir. 493 00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:43.960 Nine hundred degrees celsius. 494 00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:47.880 So nine hundred degrees celsius equals sixteen hundred and fifty 495 00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:48.920 two degrees freedom. 496 00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:54.480 Damn all right, that's hot as fuck. So the cigarette burns, 497 00:26:54.519 --> 00:26:56.599 and that's because of the chemicals that are feeding into 498 00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:59.279 the flame and all that. So the cigarette burns at 499 00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:03.319 up to nine hundred degrees celsius, releasing over seven thousand 500 00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:11.920 compounds in a cigarette. So you have ammonia, hydrogen, cyanide, arsenic, lead, formaldehyde, benzene, radioactive, 501 00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:18.440 polonium ye, polonium to ten, and more than seventy of 502 00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:23.519 these are confirmed cancer causers. Tar coat your lungs, carbon 503 00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:28.279 monoxide robs your oxygen, and combustion byproducts damage every blood 504 00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:31.440 vessel in your vot in your body. But what about 505 00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:33.680 a clean vape? So not all of them are clean, 506 00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:38.160 but the ones that are somewhat regulated, So the more 507 00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:40.960 popular ones, I would say, and this is something that 508 00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:45.079 I've looked into, because like, I have two favorite vapes, 509 00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:47.640 which would be raz and geek Bar. Those are my 510 00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:49.400 two favorites. Those are the ones that I looked into. 511 00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:52.839 Those seem to be heavy, heavily regulated, and they actually 512 00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:54.960 care about what actually goes into those fucking things. 513 00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:58.720 I'll also say that cali and elf bar are also 514 00:27:58.920 --> 00:27:59.960 highly heavily regular. 515 00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:06.759 Right, so a clean vape liquid has four ingredients four okay, mountains, 516 00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:10.279 not hundreds of thousands or tens of thousands. 517 00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:13.359 I thought it had three. What are the four, Jonathan? 518 00:28:13.640 --> 00:28:18.519 So the first one is vegetable glycerine also known as VG. 519 00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:22.000 Which is a refined vegetable oil. Just so everyone's clear. 520 00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:25.200 Yeah, it says it's plant based, using food and medicine. 521 00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:28.319 Everybody does come in contact with this. Next one is 522 00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:33.759 called PG, which is propeline glycol, so propelling glycol. It 523 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:38.480 says that it's common in asthma inhalers. Okay, then you 524 00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:41.920 have nicotine, of course, addictive, yes, but not the cause 525 00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:45.519 of smoking related cancers. Actually, nicotine is not dangerous at all. 526 00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:47.880 No. As a matter of fact, nicotine is in a 527 00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:50.599 lot of vegetables. Do you just off the top? Do 528 00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:53.000 you know what vegetable has the like that you probably 529 00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:55.759 have in your local garden has the highest level of 530 00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:57.319 nicotine by far? 531 00:28:58.039 --> 00:28:58.519 I don't know. 532 00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:04.559 Tomatoes, really, tomatoes are extremely heavy in nicotine. 533 00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:08.559 That's interesting because it's labeled as a night shade. 534 00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:11.240 Did you know that I did or did indeed. So 535 00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:15.279 I don't know if we could take tomato plant leaves 536 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:17.720 and dry them out and smoke them to get a 537 00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:20.039 nicotine hit, I don't know. I'd be willing to do 538 00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:24.200 an experiment and find out. But yeah, so nicotine itself, Yeah, 539 00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:25.920 you could be addicted to it the same way you 540 00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:30.119 could be addicted to any addictive substance. But there is 541 00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:34.119 no such thing as a nicotine cancer that has ever 542 00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:35.920 been recorded in medical history. 543 00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:39.839 No, it just doesn't happen. And the final ingredient would 544 00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:43.319 be food grade flavorings, so the same kind used in 545 00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:47.240 baked goods and candy. So when heated properly, vaping avoids 546 00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:52.480 the combustion toxins entirely interesting because you're not lighting it 547 00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:57.359 on fire. It's more of a heating than an external flame. 548 00:29:57.640 --> 00:29:59.759 It's the same conversation if you have a diffuser in 549 00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:03.519 your home, that vapor that is going up, it's yeah, 550 00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:05.680 there's a heat to it. It's not like it's being 551 00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:08.359 boiled off either. It's being vaporized. 552 00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:13.079 I mean vix vaporizer. Yeah, those things are fucking awesome. 553 00:30:13.559 --> 00:30:14.039 Mm hmmm. 554 00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:17.079 And although I think that they have found a way 555 00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:20.079 to corner that market by selling those stupid little fucking 556 00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:22.559 tabs that run out after one night. I'm like, just 557 00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:25.519 give it the liquid, bro, that's all I Ah, yeah, doubt. 558 00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:30.240 But anyhow, so when he did properly, vaping avoids the 559 00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:34.839 combustion toxins entirely. Overheating can create small amounts of what 560 00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:40.920 they're called u atul hides. Yeah, ald hides. Yeah, there 561 00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:44.799 we go. But the levels are drastically lower than cigarette smoke. 562 00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:49.079 That's why studies keep finding vaping has a fraction of 563 00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:52.799 the toxic load, and yet governments regulate in band vapes 564 00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:57.279 while selling cigarettes without a blink. It's yeah, regulation, it's 565 00:30:57.279 --> 00:30:59.839 all policy. It has nothing to do with what's safer 566 00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:02.759 in what's healthier. It's about what they can do to tax, 567 00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:05.319 and they have not found a way to tax. You 568 00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:08.640 can't tax nicotine, and and that's something that I just 569 00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:12.519 recently learned. You cannot tax nicotine because. 570 00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:14.480 It's like it's in tomatoes, dude. 571 00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.160 That's the thing is that it's the reason why you 572 00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:22.160 have think about what are they called like fucking multi 573 00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:25.440 vitamins and shit like that. Right, they can tax all 574 00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:29.079 that because they have created a substitute for vitamin A 575 00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:32.359 four vitamin B, four, vitamin C, and they have patented 576 00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:33.559 it in that way. 577 00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:36.920 You can't patent nature. And that's how you came out. Well, 578 00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:40.680 you say that they keep patenting plants. That's the thing 579 00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:43.200 that just keeps on happening, which blows my mind. 580 00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:46.720 But well, probably their own, you know, hybrid plant, I 581 00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:47.400 would imagine. 582 00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:50.319 Yeah. Now that being said, also, you brought up adult 583 00:31:50.359 --> 00:31:55.920 hides are a deal aldehydes. Aldehydes, right, so I know 584 00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:58.759 there's gonna be somebody say, see, see that's the cancer, 585 00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:02.079 that's what's making them bad. All right. So, an aldehyde 586 00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:05.599 are a class of organic compound characterized by a carbonyl 587 00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:09.599 group all right, bonded to a hydrogen atom and a 588 00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:15.039 carbon atom represented by the general formula of RCHO. They 589 00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:18.799 are versatile compounds found in various applications from synthetic chemistry 590 00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:23.599 to biological systems. Okay, now, what are the dangers of 591 00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:27.839 these things? Because they do naturally occur. I'm gonna say 592 00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:33.680 that one again. They naturally occur. Okay. Atol hides, while 593 00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:37.079 naturally occurring, can pose significant health dangers due to their 594 00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:42.039 reactivity and potential toxicity. Exposure can lead to various issues, 595 00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:47.599 including respiratory irritation, allergic reactions, or even cancer. Long term exposure, 596 00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:53.519 especially to certain atol hides like formaldehyde and as acetyl 597 00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:59.160 acetl hyde at acetyl high excuse me is linked to 598 00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:03.319 increased rees of cancer an other diseases. So yes fromaldehyde 599 00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:07.599 and a sadal hide if you're ingesting those things can 600 00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:10.640 have disastrous effects. But like that's not news to anyone. 601 00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:13.160 Everybody knows that smoking fromale hide it and good for you. 602 00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:15.759 That is not the type of atal hide that's going 603 00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:16.759 to be coming from a vape. 604 00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:20.599 Well then, so the original vapes had from how to 605 00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:23.319 hide in them, and then they they got banned out 606 00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:25.279 of there and a lot of the companies started taking 607 00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:27.119 the fromut to hide out of there because a lot 608 00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:28.559 of people were complaining. 609 00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:31.240 I had no idea. So when you say the earlier ones, 610 00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:32.279 like that's confirmed. 611 00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:35.400 Yeah, Like I think that that really started coming into 612 00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:38.119 effect about three or four years ago that they started 613 00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:40.920 taking out the formaldehyde. And because that was a reason 614 00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:43.440 that that was some of the pushback from the consumer 615 00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:45.559 that like, oh, from out to hide in this shit, 616 00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:47.440 what the fuck get it out of here. I'm basically 617 00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:49.880 smoking a cigarette and they've taken it out and they've 618 00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.279 actually if you look into especially some of the bigger 619 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:54.799 ones that we mentioned, if you look into it, they 620 00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:58.279 actually have taken a lot into account as far as 621 00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:01.559 trying to make it safer and not its dangerous. So 622 00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:06.799 that's the opposite of what tobacco companies are doing. They're 623 00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:08.599 just more and more and more shit. 624 00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:11.239 They're just leaning into it at this point. 625 00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:13.679 So and we have a couple of articles we're going 626 00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:17.239 to get into on that as well. But all right, 627 00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:22.880 so the science is that it's harm reduction. The vaping 628 00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:25.719 is so if you're going to if you're going to smoke, 629 00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:30.480 it's it's a lot easier on your body, on your lungs, everything, 630 00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:33.480 everything that your body's made up of if you are 631 00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:35.639 going to vape. And so they call it actually a 632 00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:39.719 harm reduction almost like what is that ship that people. 633 00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:43.159 Uh, it's like methadone to methadicts. 634 00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:47.480 No, because that's actually even more dangerous believe or not. 635 00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:50.920 Like does somebody go into the methadone clinic instead of 636 00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:52.480 going and trying to score it on the street. 637 00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:55.239 Yeah, if you look into that, dude, like the methadone 638 00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:59.719 shit is actually more dangerous than the the illegal drugs themselves. 639 00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:02.880 Are you talking about like suboxin maybe. 640 00:35:03.079 --> 00:35:05.719 M cretum That's what I was thinking. 641 00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:07.800 Creatom Okay, okay, it's. 642 00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:10.920 Like creatum compared to you know, meth or heroin. I 643 00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:13.239 don't know why people do creatim. I can't remember. I've 644 00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:16.920 never donrowin one of those drugs. Heroin. Okay, yeah, kreatom 645 00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:22.039 is the healthier substitute to heroin then, right exactly. I 646 00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:24.079 mean it's you would rather not do either one of them, 647 00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:25.639 but if you're going to do one of them, you 648 00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:26.440 should do creatim. 649 00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:29.159 Like nobody's going to go out and try to like 650 00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:32.480 steal a catalytic converter to score some k You know 651 00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:35.760 they will do that to score some h right right now. 652 00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:41.039 So let's be clear first, vaping is not risk free, 653 00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:43.960 but it is a game changer for harm reduction. The 654 00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:48.079 UK's Public Health England says that it's at least check 655 00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:53.280 this out. The UK's Public Health England has said that 656 00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:57.800 it that vaping is at least ninety five percent safer 657 00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:02.079 than smoking. I think that's five percent safer. 658 00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:05.280 I think that's more generous towards tobacco. I would actually 659 00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:07.400 put it more towards like a ninety eight ninety nine 660 00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:09.280 percent to be perfect, get honest with you. 661 00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:12.440 That's why I said, at least so smokers have switched 662 00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:15.320 to vaping. See their exposure to carcinogens drop to near 663 00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:22.000 non smoker levels within weeks, Respiratory symptoms improve, cardiovascular strains lessons, 664 00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:25.880 and quit rates rise. Why isn't this blasted across every 665 00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:29.559 public health campaign? Because harm reduction doesn't fit the quote 666 00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:34.119 unquote quit or die morality play that help bureaucrats and 667 00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:38.519 anti nicotine activists push, and because a healthier, longer living 668 00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:41.920 X smoker isn't feeding the same tax base or corporate 669 00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:44.119 interest as a smoker buying two packs a day. 670 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:45.519 Mm hmm. 671 00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:46.760 That's the way of looking at it. 672 00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:47.039 There. 673 00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:51.639 Nextly we have the money trail, and old boy, is 674 00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:54.519 there a fucking money trail which I'm just gonna glaze over. 675 00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:56.320 These are These are some of the points, and then 676 00:36:56.320 --> 00:37:00.320 we're gonna get to the actual articles. Next the money trail, 677 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:04.559 which is the tobacco taxes tobacco and dude, you want 678 00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:07.840 to talk about lobbying, and oh, dude, like not only 679 00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:10.880 just lobbying to get these things legalized, but lobbying to 680 00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:16.000 certain presidents and political parties and conservative and liberal and 681 00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:21.320 fucking Republican and Democrat. Nobody is nobody's free from taking 682 00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:22.639 a dollar from big tobacco. 683 00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:27.079 No, it's like oil money, like the oil lobbyists and 684 00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:32.199 shit like that. Bro, big tobacco. That's that's all DC ties, 685 00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:36.519 that's all DC money. This is this is systemic. It 686 00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:39.719 is it's like almost organic to d C. This isn't 687 00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:42.360 like something just came about in the nineteen sixties by 688 00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:45.079 any fucking means. No, no, no, no, this is long, 689 00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:45.599 long time. 690 00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:49.519 So tobacco tax revenue is a government drug in its 691 00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:53.440 own right. In the United States, states pull in, uh, 692 00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:58.719 they pull in twelve billion dollars annually from tobacco taxes, 693 00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:03.360 and the federal government grabs billions more. That doesn't include 694 00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:07.639 the nineteen ninety eight Master Settlement Agreement, where tobacco companies 695 00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:11.400 agreed to pay States two hundred and six billion dollars 696 00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:15.239 over twenty five years, payments tied directly to cigarette sales. 697 00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:18.960 When people quit smoking and switch to vaping, those revenues, uh, 698 00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:23.119 those revenue streams they shrink. Instead of adapting with a 699 00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:28.000 fair nicotine tax, most governments cling to tobacco specific taxes 700 00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:32.519 because they're embedded in budgets. This is why vaping gets demonized. 701 00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:36.320 It's not a health threat, it's a budget threat. Absolutely 702 00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:41.639 agree with that, unabsolutely fucking real. And you notice it 703 00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:45.719 just goes know how insincere the entire government is. Like, 704 00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:49.119 not that you needed this episode to prove that to you, 705 00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:51.199 but I mean it just pours a little bit more 706 00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:54.039 fucking diesel onto the fire, oh one hundred percent. 707 00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:57.719 I mean, this goes back a lot further than people 708 00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:01.119 really want to think. Does anybody know why up until recently, 709 00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:03.920 the smoking age was eighteen, but the drinking age was 710 00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:08.800 twenty one? Oh boy? Anybody curious as to why that 711 00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:10.760 might be? I'm curious why is that? 712 00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:11.119 You know? 713 00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:12.840 What? Give me the ability to share the screen real quick? 714 00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:14.800 I got a YouTube short that is going to just 715 00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:17.320 lay it out so much faster and so much more 716 00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:19.760 eloquently than I ever could for anybody who'd like to 717 00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:22.559 see what I'm about to share. Instead of just here it, Jonathan, 718 00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:23.280 tell them where they could go. 719 00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:26.079 Heyjrion dot com slash Cult of Conspiracy podcast, that's the 720 00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:27.760 best way to be able to support us. Over there, 721 00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:28.920 you'll be able to get the shows a couple of 722 00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:30.880 days in advance. You'll be able to slide into our dms. 723 00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:33.280 You'll be able to see all of the video access 724 00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:35.880 to every single show that is only available to see 725 00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:38.280 on Patreon. 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So I know you're 735 00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:12.960 listening to Spotify, Apple, whatever, you're listening to Speaker, even 736 00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.000 you listening to any of those, you're going to get 737 00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:18.679 bombarded with commercials and we're sorry about that, but unfortunately 738 00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:20.639 that is the way that we make a living and 739 00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:23.599 we put food on the table. So if you want 740 00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:26.119 to get past that, then you come over to Patreon. 741 00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:29.480 You can. I mean, it's for five dollars a month, bro, Like, 742 00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:32.280 what are you spending five dollars a month? On that, 743 00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:36.960 you know, I mean, think about Hulu, Netflix, HBO, Max, 744 00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:39.559 fucking Paramount. They're all more than five dollars a month. 745 00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:41.559 Most of them are over ten dollars a month, over 746 00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:44.280 fifteen dollars a month. And how many shows are you 747 00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:47.280 actually watching over there? Is it as many episodes that 748 00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:49.679 you're going to be listening to the cult of conspiracy? 749 00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:53.280 Probably not if you are somebody with your third eye 750 00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:56.000 all the way the fuck open. Okay, so you may 751 00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:58.639 as well put it towards the little guy and go 752 00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:03.519 against the guy. We don't want to be we don't 753 00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:05.960 want to be bombarded with all of this shit in 754 00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:08.800 the in the news and on movies and in TV shows, 755 00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:11.719 and you see every single thing that they're trying to push. 756 00:41:11.960 --> 00:41:15.119 We're trying to expose all of that. So, I mean, 757 00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:19.920 if you want to join the battle against big pharma, 758 00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:23.599 against big government, against big Tobacci, then come over to 759 00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:25.719 patre In dot com slash Cultive Conspiracy podcast. 760 00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:28.880 No, it's less than a pack of cigarettes, say that 761 00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:32.440 way less and a lot better for you and your 762 00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:36.880 third eye. Yes, surgeon General says so. Anyway, so as 763 00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:40.920 we're talking about this, yeah, recently, tobacco products were made 764 00:41:41.480 --> 00:41:43.239 by law to where you have to be twenty one 765 00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:47.239 to buy them, but that wasn't always the case. Alcohol 766 00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:51.840 for the longest time was not a twenty one thing, right. 767 00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:56.039 Michael Jackson is the reason why the drinking age in 768 00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:59.840 America got raised to twenty one. Are you ready for this? 769 00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:02.000 Oh yeah, okay, oh yeah. 770 00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:04.400 And for anybody listening that wants to try to fact 771 00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:07.800 check this, I already did. It's mind blowing, but it 772 00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:10.679 is real. It goes back from the Vietnam War and 773 00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:13.440 then it ends with Michael Jackson in the nineties. Let's 774 00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:13.920 fucking go. 775 00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:16.480 Michael Jackson is the reason you need to be twenty 776 00:42:16.519 --> 00:42:17.760 one to drink alcohol. 777 00:42:18.039 --> 00:42:21.119 Seriously, So it's the Roaring twenties. These Americans are partying 778 00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:22.760 like crazy, and Congress starts. 779 00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:25.360 To realize your owner, the country can't get nothing done 780 00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:27.920 with Audi Runch running ram and they passed the eighteenth 781 00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:30.840 Amendment prohibition no making, selling, or consuming alcohol. 782 00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:33.360 But then instead of drinking, people just turn to organized 783 00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:36.000 crime and violent So Congress is like your owner, way 784 00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:38.639 need to repay you at their amendment and the country 785 00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:41.719 can't get nothing done with Audi Crup running round. 786 00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:43.400 And if he comes up to each state to set 787 00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:45.800 their legal drinking it most was twenty one years old. 788 00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:47.880 But then you've got Richard Nixon like, we need more 789 00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:51.159 eighteen year olds to fight in my veya an amaze vote. 790 00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:53.559 So the twenty sixth Amendment is passed, letting eighteen year 791 00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:54.719 olds vote for the first time. 792 00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:57.159 So states decided that eighteen year old should be able. 793 00:42:57.039 --> 00:42:57.599 To drink too. 794 00:42:57.760 --> 00:42:59.760 The only problem eighteen year olds are done, they start 795 00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:03.159 drive and Michael Jackson starts putting out anti drunk driving 796 00:43:03.159 --> 00:43:04.320 ads set to his music. 797 00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:06.599 So the new president, Ronald Reagan, has to do. 798 00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:09.719 Something with hoe five percent of a stage highway fund. 799 00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:12.159 If they do not raise they're drinking age. 800 00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:14.920 To twenty one, then they all did, Michael, So there 801 00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:15.400 you have it. 802 00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:16.719 Wow. 803 00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:19.039 Reagan came in and said that he was gonna withhold 804 00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:22.039 funds from any state that did not raise their drinking 805 00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:23.000 age to twenty one. 806 00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:26.119 Oh wow, that's interesting. 807 00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:29.840 So do we really want to talk about what just 808 00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:32.079 happened to where they said they were going to withhold 809 00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:35.519 funding from the states unless they raise their smoking age 810 00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:37.360 to twenty one? 811 00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:41.239 Oh? I mean it just out. They don't care, bro, 812 00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:44.199 they don't care. They don't fucking health like getting out 813 00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:46.079 of your mind. They don't care about your health, they 814 00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:48.639 don't care about your well being. They want you poisoned. 815 00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:53.199 So uh, if they're trying to it, it's almost like, oh, 816 00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:56.079 what is it the Evil Queen or whatever in snow White. 817 00:43:56.559 --> 00:43:58.239 Yeah, even queen, I don't know if they ever gave 818 00:43:58.239 --> 00:43:58.880 her a name. 819 00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:01.760 The Evil Queen. It's like she's always trying to give 820 00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:04.159 the apple to snow White, right, because it's poisoned and 821 00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:06.400 it'll make her fall asleep and all this other shit. Right, 822 00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:10.920 but now imagine that there is a Chinese queen that 823 00:44:11.599 --> 00:44:19.920 cover the actually yeah, Panda Panda, But now imagine this 824 00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:23.000 Chinese queen is coming over and saying, look, that apple's 825 00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:26.239 poisonous as fuck, and yeah, I have this apple. It's 826 00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:28.800 still pretty poisonous, but it's not going to kill you. 827 00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:32.760 And there's actually zero confirmed deaths to vaping related shit 828 00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:38.360 nicotine vaping not entirely across the board. And so it's 829 00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:41.599 like the government doesn't like that. They want to keep 830 00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:43.880 on giving you the Evil Queen apple because they want 831 00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:46.639 you poisoned, because it feeds big Pharma. It keeps the 832 00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:51.159 population down a little bit. You know, they're always talking 833 00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:54.280 about reducing the world's population, right, And so they try 834 00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:56.079 and poison you in all these different types of ways. 835 00:44:56.119 --> 00:44:59.440 Vaccine is one of them. You know, the harmful chemicals 836 00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:01.440 in your food and water, and we talk about all 837 00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:03.840 the time. They want you poisoned as much as they 838 00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:06.880 possibly can, because that is how they maintain control if 839 00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:11.679 they have it. Think about it, we as citizens. Some 840 00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:14.440 people don't like that word, but we as citizens of 841 00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:19.719 this country, we outnumber them, like what one thousand to one, 842 00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:21.960 not even probably more than that, right. 843 00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:24.960 Ten, Probably a million to one something like. 844 00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:26.599 That, probably a million to one. If we were to 845 00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:30.639 rise against them, they would be trampled overnight. Okay, So 846 00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:33.760 they need you poisoned, they need you sick, They need 847 00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:36.800 you thinking that we need them. So this is one 848 00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:38.519 of their ways. And obviously this would be one of 849 00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:40.719 the reasons why they're trying to ban vaping, because it 850 00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:43.679 reduces the clutches that they have on your back as 851 00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:45.920 far as reducing the population and keeping you sick. 852 00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:46.840 Because you think. 853 00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:50.599 About it, one of the biggest money makers within big 854 00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:55.760 pharma is a cancer treatment. And if there is less 855 00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:58.239 people getting cancer, we can't be having not. 856 00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:02.480 Like you said earlier, right, so one of the things 857 00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:05.280 that could potentially be in these vapes is from aldehyde, right, 858 00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:08.159 which is not good. Not I'm with you one hundred percent, 859 00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:12.360 but do you mean the chemical that's in every cigarette 860 00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:16.920 known from aldehyde? It's that chemical compound is in them. 861 00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:20.239 So if we're gonna really call a spade a spade, 862 00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:23.119 they're gonna they all have tried to throw this smear 863 00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:26.079 campaign on vapes to say, oh, you know, those are 864 00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:28.320 just as bad as cigarettes, or there's a whole group 865 00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:31.039 that really believe these are worse than cigarettes because they 866 00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:33.840 were told by somebody who was told by somebody, and well, 867 00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:35.840 you know, it's that new shit and it's just worse 868 00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:38.880 aus it's even worse. They and all this the smear 869 00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:44.280 campaign worked because literally, we just led there's seven thousand compounds, 870 00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:47.360 seventy of which are confirmed they're going to give you cancer. 871 00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:52.320 These there may possibly be one thing in them, and 872 00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:55.639 that's a very small chance that's even in them. And 873 00:46:56.239 --> 00:46:58.400 to say that a little bit of that is going 874 00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:00.519 to give you the same effects as smoke, looking something 875 00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:04.920 with seventy I'm sorry, like it's not even a fair comparison. 876 00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:08.719 So we're gonna get to big tobacco strategy. Now, so 877 00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:13.320 think do you think that big tobacco hates vaping? Think again, 878 00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:16.400 they've bought in Okay, not just a couple of them 879 00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:19.519 that we named earlier, but there are some some big 880 00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:23.440 names here at Steak. So first you have Altria, which 881 00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:26.519 is actually it's just rebranded from Philip Morris. So just 882 00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:30.760 as Philip Morris Altria, or Philip Morris owns a Steak 883 00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:36.920 in Jewel, British American Tobacco owns Views, japan Tobacco owns Logic, 884 00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:40.000 so they play both sides. They lobby to ban or 885 00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:43.800 restrict flavored vapes from independent shops. They keep their own 886 00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:47.840 tobacco flavored corporate pods legal. They don't have a problem 887 00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:50.280 with that. They ain't got no, they've already they've already 888 00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:52.199 squeezed everything they can out of them, and now they 889 00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:52.760 owned them. 890 00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:53.679 And that's the thing. 891 00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:56.599 They bankrupt certain companies and then they buy them for 892 00:47:56.679 --> 00:47:59.360 pennies on the fucking dollar. And now those things aren't 893 00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:02.119 as harm as all the other vapes because we are 894 00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:05.000 in control of them, and we obviously care about your health. 895 00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:09.039 Right, it's a company name, you know, and trust right. 896 00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:13.360 Philip Morris, Yeah, I mean, hey, you like jewel, I 897 00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:15.480 mean big Tobacco loves you, baby girl. 898 00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:16.320 Absolutely. 899 00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:21.360 So they keep their own tobacco flavored corporate pods legal. 900 00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:25.119 They push for regulations that small vape companies can't afford 901 00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:27.800 to comply with. And so the result is is that 902 00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:32.000 big tobacco eliminates competition, owns the vape market, and still 903 00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:35.840 sells billions of cigarettes. A monopoly on nicotine, whether you 904 00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:40.880 burn it or vaporize it, That's how it runs. 905 00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:43.559 That's how the monopoly game goes. Man, That's how big business. 906 00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:45.880 This is like the biggest of big business. This is 907 00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:48.840 high level stakes here. That's how it goes. That's how 908 00:48:48.840 --> 00:48:49.400 they operate. 909 00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:52.840 They don't just own fucking boardwalk and park place, Bro, 910 00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:56.079 they own the board exactly. That's the thing is that 911 00:48:56.440 --> 00:49:00.000 you're playing on their field. They have the home field advantage. 912 00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:02.400 They owned the refs, they owned the coaches, they owned 913 00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:04.880 the stadium, they owned the state where the stadium is. 914 00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:07.960 The entire game is rigged in their favor, and they're 915 00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:10.639 going to do They're they're going to stop at nothing 916 00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:13.119 to control all of it. That's why I do believe 917 00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:17.639 that vapes will absolutely be completely taken away because the 918 00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:20.280 the little vape companies, dude, hey, you want to talk 919 00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:23.559 about they're they're minnows swimming in an ocean of sharks. 920 00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:26.920 Oh yeah, especially one that they like we said earlier, 921 00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:30.239 this is this is old money, This is long standing 922 00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:34.639 ties to legality. These, like you said, smaller vape companies 923 00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:36.920 and I know, like the ones we just listed Geek 924 00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:42.320 bar Elf bar U Raz. These are big vape companies. 925 00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:47.039 But as compared to Philip Morris, that's that's not even 926 00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:49.679 a fair compared. This is this is comparing your micro 927 00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:52.599 brewery to Anheuser Busch. That's what that is. 928 00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:54.840 Oh it's a shack versus a castle bro. 929 00:49:55.199 --> 00:49:58.199 Yeah, that's that's comparing a Beta brewing company, which is 930 00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:00.679 not a micro brewery. They have, they got beer all 931 00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:02.960 over the country, all over the world, out to Abida, 932 00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:06.480 but they are not anywhere in the conversation as a 933 00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:08.199 comparison to Anheuser Busch. 934 00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:13.079 Give me that Barney Baby, Yeah, yeah, Andy, Gator and 935 00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:13.800 Purple Hayes. 936 00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:16.000 I like the Boot also, it's pretty. 937 00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:18.480 The Boot is probably my favorite Abita beer. Yeah, I 938 00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:19.400 agree with you on that. 939 00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:20.719 It's getting harder to find. 940 00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:23.360 I know, I don't know why it was such a 941 00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:25.320 such a good beer. I thought that it was the 942 00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:28.159 best one I thought, I mean, Purple Hayes is like 943 00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:29.440 the most famous one. 944 00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:31.880 I mean that's they're tried and true. You know, that's 945 00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:32.800 that's that good. 946 00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:35.960 Good it is. It is so uh Now there is 947 00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:39.440 uh political influence and donations as well. And like I said, 948 00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:42.360 we're gonna be getting to those numbers into you know, 949 00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:46.719 UH said, constituents that are receiving benefits from big tobacco. 950 00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:50.440 So we're gonna follow the campaign money. Check this out, bro. 951 00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:54.559 In Australia, the National Party, which I don't know if 952 00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:56.159 that's their conservative or liberal. 953 00:50:56.400 --> 00:51:00.440 Probably there I would think they're they're liberal. Honestly, show 954 00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:03.360 is a pretty uh liberal place by and large. 955 00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:07.320 Okay, So the National Party took donations from tobacco companies 956 00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:11.159 and then backed harsh vape bands. In the United States, 957 00:51:11.320 --> 00:51:15.840 lawmakers in states with strict vape laws often received campaigns 958 00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:20.840 from campaign cash from Altria, R. J. Reynolds and other giants. 959 00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:23.960 So it's not a conspiracy. It's public record. Money talks, 960 00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:29.079 and in politics, it rights the laws. So wow, yeah, dude, 961 00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:29.880 And like. 962 00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:31.599 I said, we got it right. By the way, the 963 00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:34.639 Nationalist Party or the Nationalist Party in Australia is the 964 00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:36.440 right wing party. So I was wrong. 965 00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:39.920 It made more sense to me. Usually liberals are anti 966 00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:41.239 national anything. 967 00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:42.679 So very true, very true. 968 00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:43.519 They're more global. 969 00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:46.440 Yeah. 970 00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:49.280 So then there's a regulatory capture as well. So by 971 00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:53.159 legally defining vaping as a tobacco product, even if it 972 00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:58.039 contains zero tobacco leaf, governments get to apply the same taxes, 973 00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:02.719 the same restrictions, and advertizing bands. This keeps vaping stigmatized, 974 00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:06.440 keeps the public confused, and allows total control over what 975 00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:11.360 can be sold to whom and where so all within 976 00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:17.039 the literature itself. Why would I mean? Yes, nicotine is 977 00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:22.239 derived mainly mostly from tobacco, but there is no actual 978 00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:25.119 tobacco leaf. And this is the argument on behalf of 979 00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:29.559 the vaping party, is that, why are you putting tobacco 980 00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:34.239 you know, laws on something that is tobacco lists. 981 00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:37.760 Could you imagine if the alcohol companies tried doing that, 982 00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:42.400 if out of nowhere, name a big liquor company, Jack 983 00:52:42.519 --> 00:52:46.159 Daniels tried putting and lobbying in DC to put restrictions 984 00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:47.280 on coca cola. 985 00:52:48.760 --> 00:52:52.159 Exactly, Well, it has water in it, yeah. 986 00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:55.280 Right, right, right, right, Yeah, it's ridiculous. 987 00:52:55.000 --> 00:53:00.000 So crazy. Then you know, you know, the World Health Organization, 988 00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:02.440 she got a little something to say about this. So 989 00:53:03.079 --> 00:53:08.159 whose framework? The whose framework contention on tobacco control, that's 990 00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:12.920 the name of their thing. It pushes anti vape measures globally, 991 00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:16.840 treating them no differently than cigarettes. Countries that rely on 992 00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:21.719 who funding or want to align with its policies follow suit. Meanwhile, 993 00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:27.199 big pharma selling nicotine patches, gum, and prescription cessation drugs 994 00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:31.760 benefits when vaping is suppressed. So the overlap between these 995 00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:35.199 interest is really is really discussed in mainstream media. So 996 00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:38.679 if we are going to look at vaping as a 997 00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:43.519 healthier alternative to smoking, meanwhile the World Health Organization is 998 00:53:43.639 --> 00:53:49.519 benefiting from nicotine patches, nicotine gum, and some of the 999 00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:51.880 drugs that they use. What was that big one that 1000 00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:53.679 people It was a pill that people were taken to 1001 00:53:53.719 --> 00:53:57.559 try and quit smoking. It got like robo chantis chantics. 1002 00:53:57.599 --> 00:53:59.880 Then they found out that it was extremely fucking dangerous 1003 00:53:59.880 --> 00:54:01.000 and nobody should be taking it. 1004 00:54:01.519 --> 00:54:03.440 Who could have seen that coming a mile away? 1005 00:54:03.599 --> 00:54:07.440 I know the World Health Organization funded that. Okay, hmm, 1006 00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:10.599 they funded all They fund all these things. They back 1007 00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:14.199 all of these things as well. So they're the ones 1008 00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:17.519 that are benefiting from people quitting, and they're like, look, 1009 00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:20.000 we got this shit and we're gonna help you quit. Meanwhile, 1010 00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:22.920 the big Vabe company wants to come come along and say, look, 1011 00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:26.519 we want to try and get you to quit smoking cigarettes. Whooo, whoa, 1012 00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:30.280 you hold your fucking horses. We already got that absolutely. 1013 00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:33.480 Wow. I didn't know the World Health Organization is the 1014 00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:35.079 ones that were behind chantics. 1015 00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:39.760 Yeah, yeah, all of it. Yeah, it's crazy. So and 1016 00:54:39.800 --> 00:54:43.119 then of course there's black market backfire. So bands don't 1017 00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:45.079 kill demand. I don't know if anybody knows that. 1018 00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:48.880 Wait a minute, Wait a minute, you're telling me that 1019 00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:50.880 if they take it off the shelves, the streets will 1020 00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:52.159 find a way. 1021 00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:55.320 Yeah yeah, yeah. It's almost like guns, right. 1022 00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:58.679 I wonder if anybody's ever written that down somewhere. You know, 1023 00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:01.599 as we just learned from that quick little clip about 1024 00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:05.800 how when they made alcohol illegal, the organized crime skyrocketed 1025 00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:09.280 because they now had a new medium to sell. You know, 1026 00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:12.159 street pushers are gonna push, the streets are going to eat, 1027 00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:14.639 you know what I'm saying. But hey, I wonder if 1028 00:55:14.679 --> 00:55:16.559 anybody else at the top knows that or something. 1029 00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:23.119 It's crazy you think marijuana dealers would benefit if marijuana 1030 00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:24.679 was made illegal in every state. 1031 00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:28.119 You mean like the shops or you mean like a 1032 00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:31.840 street dealer, street dealers, you know, when more and more 1033 00:55:31.880 --> 00:55:36.280 states started legalizing weed, Oddly enough, the weed dealers on 1034 00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:39.800 the streets, yeah, they saw an initial dip, sure, but 1035 00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:42.880 more often than not, they're cheaper than the dispensaries, so 1036 00:55:43.079 --> 00:55:47.480 their standard customers continued to go to them. It really 1037 00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:50.920 didn't take away the organized crime, if we're going to 1038 00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:55.239 really call that organized crime, but it didn't increase it either. 1039 00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:59.920 But to your point, if they made weed outright illegal, 1040 00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:03.199 honishable by ten years in prison, right now, would that 1041 00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:06.039 be good or bad for your street corner pusher? 1042 00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:11.079 The black market would definitely see an increase for sure, and. 1043 00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:13.199 The price would also go through the fucking roof. 1044 00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:16.320 Yeah it would. And so now you have illegal versus 1045 00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:21.320 legal as far as battling for market market share and 1046 00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:24.599 market price and everything like that. You know, might be 1047 00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:27.800 might be good for the economy or the economy the 1048 00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:31.960 way they see it, but yeah, it's a And honestly, 1049 00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:35.199 like you know, I mean me personally, I always felt 1050 00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:40.000 better about buying weed from quote unquote black market dealer 1051 00:56:40.159 --> 00:56:43.239 rather than getting it from a dispensary or you know, 1052 00:56:43.320 --> 00:56:46.480 a store or something like that, especially in states where 1053 00:56:46.639 --> 00:56:49.480 they only allow like Delta eight, Delta nine, Delta ten 1054 00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:51.800 and all these different deltas, right, because all they are 1055 00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:54.440 is just spin offs. And I mean I personally, I 1056 00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:57.480 mean I've smoked all the deltas and it doesn't doesn't 1057 00:56:57.519 --> 00:57:01.880 feel the same as regular does. And also think about it, dude, 1058 00:57:01.880 --> 00:57:06.199 Like these dispensaries, bro, I mean, the fucking thc percentage 1059 00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:09.280 is through the goddamn roof, Like it's tough, fucking strong, 1060 00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:13.559 And I mean, I miss Reggie. You can't find Reggie anymore. 1061 00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:16.800 Nah, You've definitely got to support your local farmer, right, 1062 00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:20.119 and in this instance, support your local dealer if you 1063 00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:22.599 are somebody that does partake. But that's the thing, right, 1064 00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:25.679 If they were to outright criminalize it, and I mean yeah, 1065 00:57:25.719 --> 00:57:29.280 certain states it is, and federally it is and all that, Yeah, fine, fine, fine, 1066 00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:32.480 if they were to really put weight behind that and 1067 00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:37.679 put pressure behind the illegalization of marijuana, bro, yeah, the 1068 00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:40.239 price would probably double even on the streets. Then all 1069 00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:42.400 those white frat boys that have been buying eighths from 1070 00:57:42.440 --> 00:57:44.960 their guy for like for years, would find out what 1071 00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:47.360 an eighth is actually worth, there'd be fistfights over it, 1072 00:57:47.440 --> 00:57:50.599 I'll say that much. But yeah, it's it's crazy, It 1073 00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:53.000 would be absolutely insane. But of course they're not gonna 1074 00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:55.599 do that because that would make the war on drugs 1075 00:57:55.599 --> 00:57:57.960 go to a level that the prison system can't actually 1076 00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:00.599 compete with, Like they don't have the bedspace for that 1077 00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:04.280 many hardened criminals of non violent crimes, of course, but like, oh, 1078 00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:06.320 hardened criminals, And it's ridiculous. 1079 00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:08.360 Well, it's all about the public perception of it. 1080 00:58:08.519 --> 00:58:08.719 You know. 1081 00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:11.800 You look up one or two people and I and 1082 00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:15.960 this is what I've recently found is that Texas is 1083 00:58:16.119 --> 00:58:20.039 going to be illegally there. They're going to be illegalizing 1084 00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:23.519 vaping and vaping products and all that shit as of 1085 00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:26.400 September first. And from what I've heard, I cannot confirm 1086 00:58:26.519 --> 00:58:29.320 or deny this, but from what I've heard, it's going 1087 00:58:29.360 --> 00:58:31.360 to be illegal to even have it on your person. 1088 00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:35.800 Oh shit, yeah yeah, So like. 1089 00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:38.159 Oh Louisian is going to follow suit, God damn it. 1090 00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:41.519 Yep, load the fuck up. I mean that's September first, 1091 00:58:41.880 --> 00:58:44.079 and so there are other states that are obviously going 1092 00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:46.000 to be a little bit slower to pull the trigger 1093 00:58:46.039 --> 00:58:47.880 on that, but you know they're all going to follow suit. 1094 00:58:48.199 --> 00:58:50.039 Like dude, California is all the way in on it, 1095 00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:52.039 Massachusetts all the way in on it. New York's all 1096 00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:53.719 the way in on it. Louisiana is all the way 1097 00:58:53.719 --> 00:58:56.400 in on it. Eventually every state is going to comply 1098 00:58:56.519 --> 00:58:59.800 with this because every state is going to see their 1099 00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:04.480 their certain pack money for certain representatives that you vote in. 1100 00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:10.159 You think vaping companies are sending politicians money. No, that's 1101 00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:12.079 just not it's they're not there yet. 1102 00:59:13.079 --> 00:59:16.480 And you know I was gonna quit vaping, like before 1103 00:59:16.519 --> 00:59:18.440 you even did this episode. I planned on quitting as 1104 00:59:18.480 --> 00:59:20.760 like my New Year's resolution for this year coming up. 1105 00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:22.400 I got some things there coming up this fall. They're 1106 00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:24.639 gonna be stressful. Now is not the time for that, 1107 00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:27.079 But like next year, I was gonna like realistically put 1108 00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:29.519 it down for good. Of course cigars on occasion, but 1109 00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:31.960 like the everyday nicotine addiction. 1110 00:59:32.480 --> 00:59:35.800 Now I don't wanna no, now, I don't fucking wanna Okay, 1111 00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:38.519 like they did this, and also just to work clear 1112 00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:43.199 again to reiterate the whole nicotine is not bad for 1113 00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:43.599 you thing. 1114 00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:49.719 You realize they just made it known FDC approved that 1115 00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:55.559 the fucking pouches Zen's. Yeah, they're actually not bad for 1116 00:59:55.639 --> 00:59:56.239 you at all. 1117 00:59:56.440 --> 00:59:58.719 No, not at all. You can fucking hike twenty of 1118 00:59:58.760 --> 01:00:00.280 those bad boys in your mouth and be all right. 1119 01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:04.840 Those are literally just nicotine salt, the exact same nicotine 1120 01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:07.280 salt that is inside of this vape. So if we're 1121 01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:09.760 just gonna keep it one thou, well here, let's make 1122 01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:12.119 sure we're all on the same page. The government has 1123 01:00:12.159 --> 01:00:16.519 no issue with nicotine. It's the way you ingest it 1124 01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:17.760 that they're trying to regulate. 1125 01:00:18.400 --> 01:00:22.320 Yep, yep, that's it. If they ain't making a money, 1126 01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:26.039 it's all the sudden bad for your health. Absolutely, absolutely 1127 01:00:26.639 --> 01:00:30.400 crazy how that shit works. So if vaping was openly 1128 01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:35.000 acknowledged as safer, cigarettes would look indefensible. If nicotine taxes 1129 01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:39.840 replaced tobacco taxes, the quote unquote morale crusade would collapse. 1130 01:00:40.159 --> 01:00:43.719 So the narrative must be maintained. Keep vaping scary, keep 1131 01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:48.199 tobacco legal, keep the tax base secure. This is perception management, 1132 01:00:48.360 --> 01:00:53.320 not public health. It's all absolute people believe, right, So 1133 01:00:53.480 --> 01:00:56.840 the people pushing these bands aren't your guardians. They're managers 1134 01:00:56.880 --> 01:01:00.599 of a revenue stream, every law, every press conference, every 1135 01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:05.960 quote unquote for the children SoundBite is theater to protect 1136 01:01:05.960 --> 01:01:09.440 the cash flow and corporate partners the health angle. Well, 1137 01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:11.280 that's just costume. 1138 01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:15.159 Absolutely. Now we do need to give the distinction on 1139 01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:19.800 this one as well. There are significant numbers of children, 1140 01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:23.400 and by children, I don't mean high schoolers like elementary 1141 01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:27.039 and primary school kids that are bringing vapes to school. Yeah, 1142 01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:30.800 that is real life, one hundred percent. But I should 1143 01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:33.760 also give a mention of this. So one of the 1144 01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:37.760 ex wives teaches out of school local to the home, okay. 1145 01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:42.679 And if you go to the ISSP teacher, the disciplinarian, 1146 01:01:42.760 --> 01:01:44.920 I don't know what everybody calls their shit in school 1147 01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:49.320 suspension correspondent, disciplinarian, the teacher you go to when you 1148 01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:50.960 fucked up and got rote up and now you got 1149 01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:52.320 to go sit in a different room for the rest 1150 01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:52.679 of the day. 1151 01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:55.360 That person, Okay, it was always the principal to me. 1152 01:01:56.159 --> 01:01:59.400 Okay, Sometimes the principal is the disciplinarian. Sometimes they have 1153 01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:01.679 a designator teacher for that, but either way goes right. 1154 01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:04.519 If you go to their desk drawer and open it up, 1155 01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:06.519 you're gonna find a bunch of contraband items that they 1156 01:02:06.519 --> 01:02:09.320 took from these kids. You are going to find a 1157 01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:13.760 drawer full of fucking vapes. That is a true statement. Okay, fair, 1158 01:02:14.639 --> 01:02:17.400 but we also need to keep it one hundred percent here. 1159 01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:21.320 Two years ago, a fourth grader got off of the bus, 1160 01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:25.199 went straight to the boy's room and lit up a cigarette. 1161 01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:27.880 Nobody probably said anything about that one, though, huh oh. 1162 01:02:27.719 --> 01:02:30.559 No, No, he got suspended, right, and like, actually, I 1163 01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:33.559 think that was like his ninth offense of doing some shit, 1164 01:02:33.639 --> 01:02:35.480 so I think he got expelled. But beside the point, 1165 01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:39.679 if a parent or guardian is going to be careless 1166 01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:43.159 about where they leave their substances of whatever that might be, 1167 01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:46.480 the kids are going to grab it, regardless if it's 1168 01:02:46.519 --> 01:02:50.280 a cigarette, regardless if it's a beer that you left 1169 01:02:50.280 --> 01:02:52.039 out and your kid's just gonna see it and nobody's 1170 01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:53.639 looking at he's gonna just chug the rest of it 1171 01:02:53.679 --> 01:02:55.519 and move on. Like And I'm not saying that every 1172 01:02:55.599 --> 01:02:58.599 kid is up to no good. I'm saying that, depending 1173 01:02:58.599 --> 01:03:01.159 on the home, in the environment, or whatever, vapes are 1174 01:03:01.159 --> 01:03:04.760 not more readily accessible than cigarettes. They are easier to hide. 1175 01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:08.840 And I will give you that, but again, the flavorings 1176 01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:12.360 are not targeted towards children, because if that was the case, 1177 01:03:12.599 --> 01:03:16.480 we're saying that candy is specifically only targeted for kids. 1178 01:03:18.199 --> 01:03:20.480 Yeah, the same way the cereal companies are using it. 1179 01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:23.360 Oh I forgot only children eat cereal? 1180 01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:26.639 Yeah, yeah, trade they're the only ones, Jacob. 1181 01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:30.320 Right, exactly, kids are the only ones eating sugary cereals. 1182 01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:32.239 I forgot when you hit twenty five, all of a 1183 01:03:32.280 --> 01:03:36.079 sudden you just love Brand Flakes more than fucking Reese's Puffs. 1184 01:03:36.119 --> 01:03:37.920 I forgot that that's how that works. 1185 01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:40.840 Give me those cocoa pebbles bro all day. 1186 01:03:41.159 --> 01:03:45.039 Exactly right. That it out loud, That makes no sense. Now, Yes, 1187 01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:47.840 I agree that these are a lot easier to hide, 1188 01:03:48.199 --> 01:03:50.840 and a kid can swipe this a lot easier and 1189 01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:53.039 get away with it than swiping a cigarette and coming 1190 01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:55.719 in smelling like an ash tray. Like Okay, I can 1191 01:03:55.719 --> 01:03:58.800 at least understand their argument here, but it is not 1192 01:03:59.239 --> 01:04:03.000 the governments and to protect your children by any means. 1193 01:04:03.039 --> 01:04:05.960 We're talking about the same government that up until very recently, 1194 01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:10.119 in elementary school libraries had books explaining to children how 1195 01:04:10.119 --> 01:04:11.199 to have gay butt. 1196 01:04:11.119 --> 01:04:13.880 Sex with each other and blow job shit. 1197 01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:18.159 Like the same government entities are all of a sudden 1198 01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:20.440 really worried about your children's health. 1199 01:04:21.119 --> 01:04:24.000 No, they're not, not at all, not at all. So 1200 01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:27.360 once you see the vaporing game, you start seeing the pattern. Everywhere. 1201 01:04:27.400 --> 01:04:31.079 They restrict what threatens corporate profits, They monopolize it, they 1202 01:04:31.159 --> 01:04:33.000 tax it, and then they sell it back to you 1203 01:04:33.039 --> 01:04:37.679 as a quote unquote approved option. Whether it's food, medicine, energy, 1204 01:04:37.800 --> 01:04:41.079 or information. It's the same blueprint. If you remember, whenever 1205 01:04:41.159 --> 01:04:45.480 people were doing their own research that God said that, 1206 01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:49.960 you got told that it's unsafe to do your own research. 1207 01:04:50.159 --> 01:04:52.199 You shouldn't do that, you should rely on the experts 1208 01:04:52.239 --> 01:04:55.039 to what they say. Meanwhile, you go back and you 1209 01:04:55.119 --> 01:04:57.800 check the experts, the quote unquote experts that told you 1210 01:04:57.840 --> 01:04:59.639 to wear a mask, that told you to stand six 1211 01:04:59.639 --> 01:05:03.039 feet up part to stay inside, to not go to work. 1212 01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:06.159 That only what were the people called that were allowed 1213 01:05:06.199 --> 01:05:07.639 to go and drive. 1214 01:05:08.440 --> 01:05:14.280 Uh shuh. Not necessary workers. It was essential that's what 1215 01:05:14.440 --> 01:05:15.400 essential employees. 1216 01:05:15.519 --> 01:05:18.559 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was an essential worker, so I was. 1217 01:05:18.599 --> 01:05:19.639 I really loved it. 1218 01:05:19.719 --> 01:05:24.119 I felt really important. But that being said, it's like, yeah, 1219 01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:28.159 they they they don't really care about your health. And 1220 01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:32.760 even the clinical experts are none other than people that 1221 01:05:32.840 --> 01:05:35.599 are just backed by big money in some form or fashion. 1222 01:05:35.960 --> 01:05:38.199 You know, you remember, I mean back in what was 1223 01:05:38.199 --> 01:05:41.239 it the seventies, that our sixties or seventies. That's why 1224 01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:44.639 like mad men became a thing. Back in the sixties 1225 01:05:44.679 --> 01:05:49.199 or seventies. They did every single scientific experiment to prove 1226 01:05:49.320 --> 01:05:52.639 to to prove that, you know, smoking was okay for 1227 01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:53.480 pregnant women. 1228 01:05:54.039 --> 01:05:56.800 Yeah, well, we were doctors that were prescribing it to 1229 01:05:56.840 --> 01:05:58.400 pregnant women at one point in time. 1230 01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:02.480 So it's always been money. It's it hasn't changed. It's 1231 01:06:02.639 --> 01:06:05.639 it's it's just changed form. That's really what we're looking at. 1232 01:06:05.920 --> 01:06:08.119 And then oh, dude, there's one episode I remember. 1233 01:06:08.239 --> 01:06:10.760 It was so all the results came back and they 1234 01:06:10.920 --> 01:06:14.199 knew beyond any shadow of any doubt that cigarettes were 1235 01:06:14.280 --> 01:06:16.679 bad for you, and they were trying to find a 1236 01:06:16.719 --> 01:06:19.519 way for the ad agency to spin it in a 1237 01:06:19.559 --> 01:06:24.559 semi positive light. One guy was like, well, humans inherently 1238 01:06:24.559 --> 01:06:27.440 have suicidal tendencies. Why don't we just lean into that, 1239 01:06:27.719 --> 01:06:30.320 you know, if you're gonna die, why not die with us? 1240 01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:34.239 And then uh, Don Draper's character was like, no, that's 1241 01:06:34.519 --> 01:06:37.920 fucking stupid, Like, no, that that's not gonna get sales whatsoever. 1242 01:06:38.360 --> 01:06:40.320 So tell me the process of how to make a cigarette. 1243 01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:42.440 They're like, you grow the tobacco, you let it dry, 1244 01:06:42.559 --> 01:06:45.119 you cut it, you toast it. You do this. He's like, wait, wait, wait, 1245 01:06:45.159 --> 01:06:49.400 that's it. It's toasted. That's gonna be the thing on 1246 01:06:49.440 --> 01:06:52.239 your cigarette to say that you're better than your competitor. 1247 01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:55.039 And the guys are like, no, every cigarette company toasts 1248 01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:57.199 their tobacco. You have to. He's like, no, they don't. 1249 01:06:57.239 --> 01:07:00.199 The public does not know that. Therefore no one else 1250 01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:02.519 does that but you, and that's what we're gonna run with. 1251 01:07:02.800 --> 01:07:05.440 It was like, bye, I forget the name brand, buy 1252 01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:09.639 so and so cigarettes. It's toasted, and like that was 1253 01:07:09.679 --> 01:07:12.320 the thing. And then they leaned into its toasty flavor 1254 01:07:12.360 --> 01:07:14.440 and all these things and like, yeah, it's bad for you, 1255 01:07:14.480 --> 01:07:17.159 but like bro, it tastes so good though, And that 1256 01:07:17.639 --> 01:07:19.880 was how they ran it, even after they knew that 1257 01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:20.800 it was going to kill you. 1258 01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:24.000 Yeah, they don't care about actually making something safer. They 1259 01:07:24.039 --> 01:07:26.840 just want you to perceive that something is safer. And 1260 01:07:27.559 --> 01:07:30.880 a great example of this would be deodorant. A lot 1261 01:07:30.880 --> 01:07:33.039 of people are a lot of those big companies are 1262 01:07:33.039 --> 01:07:36.679 saying without aluminum. Now you know, there's no no more 1263 01:07:36.719 --> 01:07:39.559 harmful aluminum that's going in here. Meanwhile, you go and 1264 01:07:39.599 --> 01:07:42.800 look at the actual ingredients. It's actually the newer ingredients 1265 01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:45.079 are worse for you than the aluminum was. 1266 01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:48.239 Yeah, like and that's not like us saying, oh, you 1267 01:07:48.239 --> 01:07:50.440 know them vapes are worse for you than cigarettes. No, no, no, 1268 01:07:50.519 --> 01:07:52.719 you can do the research on this. There's peer reviewed 1269 01:07:52.760 --> 01:07:55.760 studies on the chemical compounds inside of those deodorant sticks 1270 01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:58.960 that are aluminum free, and they are not good. The 1271 01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:01.800 only ones that I can say that are actually natural 1272 01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:04.519 and not necessarily good for you, but they don't have 1273 01:08:04.559 --> 01:08:07.719 these harmful chemicals are like Doctor Squatch and like some 1274 01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:10.880 of these more all natural brands, but they fucking suck. 1275 01:08:11.280 --> 01:08:12.079 They don't work. 1276 01:08:12.519 --> 01:08:14.760 I know, I know. And the same thing goes for 1277 01:08:15.079 --> 01:08:17.479 even the toothpaste companies. You know a lot are going 1278 01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:21.479 fluoride free, right, and then look into certain chemicals, not 1279 01:08:21.520 --> 01:08:23.000 all of them. There are some of them that are 1280 01:08:23.039 --> 01:08:27.199 actually still like, really good for you. I use Gurunanda, 1281 01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:30.640 which is fluoride free, fluoride free, which seems to be 1282 01:08:31.359 --> 01:08:34.520 a pretty safe one. But companies that I used to 1283 01:08:34.680 --> 01:08:37.640 think that were holistic and they really cared about your health, 1284 01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:38.840 like such as Bird's Bees. 1285 01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:39.039 Bro. 1286 01:08:39.119 --> 01:08:42.680 You look at fucking Bird's Bees toothpaste. Holy shit, is 1287 01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:43.279 that stuff that? 1288 01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:43.560 Dude? 1289 01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:45.920 That's way, that's that's worse for you than Colgate bro. 1290 01:08:46.600 --> 01:08:49.319 Dude, toothpaste is one of those things where it really 1291 01:08:49.439 --> 01:08:53.880 is easy to make your own toothpaste. I baking soda 1292 01:08:54.680 --> 01:08:58.520 and peppermint oil is like the one two punch of 1293 01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:01.880 a decent toothpaste. You don't need all the fucking chemical 1294 01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:03.600 compounds of shit that you can't pronounce. 1295 01:09:03.640 --> 01:09:07.439 You really don't, not not at all. So, So anyway, 1296 01:09:07.680 --> 01:09:10.000 this is this is an article that I pulled up 1297 01:09:10.119 --> 01:09:13.560 what is the name vaping three sixty dot com. So 1298 01:09:14.399 --> 01:09:19.520 in Australia, black market vape sales outpaced legal productions seventeen 1299 01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:23.439 hundred to one. Whoa, So you want to talk about 1300 01:09:23.439 --> 01:09:26.319 tobacco taking a big hit, how about seventeen hundred to 1301 01:09:26.319 --> 01:09:26.760 one hit. 1302 01:09:27.439 --> 01:09:29.760 Yeah, yeah, that's a drastic tickup. 1303 01:09:30.319 --> 01:09:33.079 So Australia's legal vape market has been destroyed by the 1304 01:09:33.079 --> 01:09:36.279 government mandate that forced sales into pharmacies and replaced by 1305 01:09:36.359 --> 01:09:40.079 an illicit market at least partially controlled by organized crime. 1306 01:09:40.359 --> 01:09:43.239 Now the sale of the failure has become clearer after 1307 01:09:43.279 --> 01:09:47.520 government documents obtained by a newspaper under the Australia Australian 1308 01:09:47.520 --> 01:09:49.399 Freedom of Information Act, OH they have their own for 1309 01:09:49.520 --> 01:09:54.239 you show that legal sales account for only about one 1310 01:09:54.479 --> 01:09:58.640 of every seventeen hundred transactions, so it says. The Daily 1311 01:09:58.680 --> 01:10:03.520 Telegraph obtained pharmacy sales records recently from the Therapeutic Goods Administration, 1312 01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:07.319 the country's drug regulator. The paper reported this week that 1313 01:10:07.399 --> 01:10:11.640 pharmacists reported fewer than six thousand supply notifications per month 1314 01:10:11.680 --> 01:10:14.239 from October twenty twenty four to April twenty twenty five. 1315 01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:18.119 According to the newspaper, The TGA, the Therapeutic Goods Administration 1316 01:10:18.439 --> 01:10:21.920 admits that over ten million vapes are sold each month 1317 01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:26.800 on the illicit market. Illegal products, mostly typical Chinese disposable vapes, 1318 01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:31.000 are sold in ordinary retail stores, including vape including smoke 1319 01:10:31.039 --> 01:10:34.640 shops and convenience stores. Legal products and pharmacies are available 1320 01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:37.159 in tobacco, mental and mint flavors only, and must be 1321 01:10:37.199 --> 01:10:41.119 sold in plane packaging. Australia adopted the scheme last year 1322 01:10:41.159 --> 01:10:43.279 after a bill that would have banned all sales without 1323 01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:46.159 a doctor's prescription. Fell through. That's something that they were 1324 01:10:46.199 --> 01:10:48.319 trying to get, Like you had to get a prescription 1325 01:10:48.479 --> 01:10:49.239 to get a vape. 1326 01:10:49.680 --> 01:10:51.680 Yeah, yeah, I remember this shit. 1327 01:10:52.039 --> 01:10:55.359 The compromised legislation, passed in June twenty twenty four, and 1328 01:10:55.520 --> 01:10:59.359 in effect since October, allows consumers to purchase vapes without 1329 01:10:59.359 --> 01:11:03.760 a prescription, but only from licensed pharmacies. However, pharmacies were 1330 01:11:03.760 --> 01:11:07.600 not consulted before the legislation was pushed through, and most 1331 01:11:07.680 --> 01:11:10.800 are clearly not interested in being vape retailers. The Daily 1332 01:11:10.840 --> 01:11:13.840 Telegraph says that no more than seven hundred of Australia's 1333 01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:17.640 fifty nine hundred pharmacies are selling non prescription vaping products, 1334 01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:19.920 and even that number may be high because of glitches 1335 01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:23.279 in the TGA's tracking system. On average, each legal seller 1336 01:11:23.319 --> 01:11:26.520 is reporting only one sale every two to three days, 1337 01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:30.000 while over three hundred thousand vapes are sold on the 1338 01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:31.039 black market daily. 1339 01:11:31.960 --> 01:11:34.720 Can you imagine having to go to your local pharmacy 1340 01:11:35.479 --> 01:11:38.680 to pick up a vape, dude, to the same context 1341 01:11:38.680 --> 01:11:40.920 of could you imagine having to go to your local 1342 01:11:40.920 --> 01:11:42.600 pharmacy to buy a pack of smokes? 1343 01:11:42.920 --> 01:11:45.560 Oh, I mean Walgreen sells cigarettes? 1344 01:11:46.119 --> 01:11:48.800 No, but yeah they do, But I mean so does 1345 01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:51.800 every gas station, right, Walmart sells these And I mean 1346 01:11:51.840 --> 01:11:54.000 just like your local what we might call a drug store, 1347 01:11:54.039 --> 01:11:57.159 which is these days called a convenience store. I mean 1348 01:11:57.199 --> 01:12:00.199 you actually have to get a doctor's prescription to go 1349 01:12:00.239 --> 01:12:03.479 to your local pharmacy and buy a pack of smokes. 1350 01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:06.439 That out loud is fucking retarded. 1351 01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:10.039 Yeah, well, it's just another way. It's like making people 1352 01:12:10.039 --> 01:12:12.359 get a fucking twig card to enter the plants. It's 1353 01:12:12.399 --> 01:12:16.800 like they're just that's a background check. Yeah, but I mean, 1354 01:12:17.079 --> 01:12:17.520 I don't know. 1355 01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:19.720 Some of these plants make chemicals and shit that you 1356 01:12:19.800 --> 01:12:22.159 really need to make sure of this person's of terroristic 1357 01:12:22.239 --> 01:12:22.720 nature or not. 1358 01:12:22.840 --> 01:12:26.079 All right. A better example would be an inspection sticker. 1359 01:12:26.399 --> 01:12:28.720 Oh yeah, fuck that that's extortion. I don't participate in 1360 01:12:28.720 --> 01:12:29.359 that program. 1361 01:12:29.439 --> 01:12:33.399 That's yeah, that's my point there. So uh yeah, Australia 1362 01:12:33.479 --> 01:12:35.920 is going through their own shit with it. Let's move 1363 01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:41.279 to the good old free America. What we want to 1364 01:12:41.279 --> 01:12:45.319 think anyway is free. All right. So in Massachusetts, flavored 1365 01:12:45.359 --> 01:12:50.159 tobacco flavored tobacco band creates robust black market. A new 1366 01:12:50.199 --> 01:12:54.000 report highlights why prohibition does not work. This is an 1367 01:12:54.079 --> 01:12:58.520 article created by Convenience Dot March eleventh, twenty four. 1368 01:12:58.840 --> 01:13:00.600 So flavored tobacco. 1369 01:13:01.439 --> 01:13:04.279 Flavored tobacco band creates a robust black market. 1370 01:13:04.399 --> 01:13:07.359 Yeah, so flavored cigarette? I mean, yeah, you got like 1371 01:13:07.399 --> 01:13:10.000 closed cigarettes and menthols are they they're talking about? Really 1372 01:13:10.039 --> 01:13:12.000 like no more menthols are being sold. 1373 01:13:12.880 --> 01:13:16.199 I think that this is all right. So whenever we 1374 01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:18.680 talk about a tobacco ban in the United States that 1375 01:13:18.840 --> 01:13:23.600 is vapes included, ah, okay, you put it under that 1376 01:13:23.720 --> 01:13:24.439 same thing. 1377 01:13:24.960 --> 01:13:27.359 And most cigarette companies aren't worried about it because most 1378 01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:30.520 of their cigarettes are not flavored, so they're not I 1379 01:13:30.560 --> 01:13:31.159 got you now. 1380 01:13:31.479 --> 01:13:34.640 Yeah. So, bootleg cigarette smuggling is an ongoing drain on 1381 01:13:34.720 --> 01:13:39.880 law enforcements as elicit tobacco seizures surge and state revenue 1382 01:13:40.199 --> 01:13:43.119 state tax revenue from tobacco sales continue to plummet, According 1383 01:13:43.159 --> 01:13:46.520 to a new report by the Massachusetts Elicit Tobacco Task Force, 1384 01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:52.399 the New England Convenience Store and Energy Marketers Association n 1385 01:13:52.439 --> 01:13:55.319 e c s E M A shit, that's a long 1386 01:13:55.359 --> 01:13:59.960 one scam, it says. Despite enforcement efforts and the hard 1387 01:14:00.119 --> 01:14:03.159 work done by the Illegal Tobacco Task Force, smuggling of 1388 01:14:03.319 --> 01:14:08.000 untaxed tobacco products remains a significant challenge, said the executive 1389 01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:11.520 director of the New England Convenience Store and Energy Marketers Association. 1390 01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:16.039 He goes, smugglers are developing more sophisticated operations to counter 1391 01:14:16.079 --> 01:14:19.920 the task forces targeted investigations. It's clear that the Commonwealth 1392 01:14:19.960 --> 01:14:25.319 is struggling with enforcement, according to the NECSEEMA. The report 1393 01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:28.680 illustrates how the state's ban on flavor tobacco has not 1394 01:14:28.720 --> 01:14:31.199 only failed to curb the use of these products, but 1395 01:14:31.239 --> 01:14:34.920 has created a robust market for illicit, untaxed products and 1396 01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:37.960 cross border smuggling. The ban has cost the state nearly 1397 01:14:37.960 --> 01:14:42.079 one hundred and fifty million dollars in lost tax revenue 1398 01:14:42.079 --> 01:14:45.319 from legal sales since it went into effect in twenty twenty. 1399 01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:49.600 Moving flavor tobacco products out of the heavily regulated retail 1400 01:14:49.640 --> 01:14:53.760 sales environment has been counterproductive and ineffective, he said. While 1401 01:14:53.800 --> 01:14:57.279 criminal criminals rake in cash and flood the streets with 1402 01:14:57.399 --> 01:15:01.760 contraband to fund illegal enterprises, expayers have lost, public health 1403 01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:04.880 is threatened, and retailers who continue to demonstrate high rates 1404 01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:07.319 of compliance are left to suffer as they follow the 1405 01:15:07.399 --> 01:15:11.560 law all out all that money. 1406 01:15:11.399 --> 01:15:14.680 The government's losing their extortion feel on things that aren't 1407 01:15:14.720 --> 01:15:21.119 hurting anybody, all those poor things, So it's killing me. 1408 01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:24.439 They keep calling you flavored tobacco products when this has 1409 01:15:24.600 --> 01:15:28.359 no tobacco in it, that that's killing me here. 1410 01:15:28.680 --> 01:15:31.800 Yeah, well that's that's the legal policy name that it 1411 01:15:31.840 --> 01:15:35.920 falls under. So the report also notes that new challenges 1412 01:15:35.920 --> 01:15:40.039 associated with the storage and destruction of electronic nicotine delivery 1413 01:15:40.079 --> 01:15:41.880 system or ends. 1414 01:15:42.520 --> 01:15:42.640 Uh. 1415 01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:46.239 So it reports a challenge with the storage and destruction 1416 01:15:46.319 --> 01:15:48.239 of them. So how do you dispose of them? There's 1417 01:15:48.279 --> 01:15:51.239 not really a good way to do, so, it says 1418 01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:56.520 Field Personnel study routinely encountering or seizing untaxed menthol cigarettes 1419 01:15:56.600 --> 01:16:00.319 originally purchased in other states and flavored e nds or 1420 01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:05.439 vapes products and cigars purchased from unlicensed distributors operating both 1421 01:16:05.479 --> 01:16:09.159 within and outside the Commonwealth. Also a decrease of twenty 1422 01:16:09.159 --> 01:16:13.039 five point two million dollars in cigarette excise tax collections 1423 01:16:13.039 --> 01:16:17.199 from twenty twenty three. So yeah, they're they're getting fucking uh, 1424 01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:20.960 they're not collecting their their their passing go. 1425 01:16:21.319 --> 01:16:22.199 Kind of right here. 1426 01:16:22.680 --> 01:16:26.960 Uh. And also an overall decline in tobacco product revenues 1427 01:16:26.960 --> 01:16:28.960 for the fourth consecutive fiscal. 1428 01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:32.760 Year, the fourth consecutive year. Yep. 1429 01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:37.279 The tobacco product revenues are going down four straight years 1430 01:16:37.319 --> 01:16:38.359 and that's going to continue. 1431 01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:39.680 Oh absolutely. 1432 01:16:40.760 --> 01:16:46.439 So if you wonder why vapes are being restricted, that's 1433 01:16:46.479 --> 01:16:47.520 a big one right there. 1434 01:16:48.119 --> 01:16:50.399 As we have always said, follow the money. 1435 01:16:50.399 --> 01:16:53.359 Follow the money. So the report acknowledge is the need 1436 01:16:53.439 --> 01:16:57.239 for continued data collection, compliance resources, and enforcement coordination to 1437 01:16:57.399 --> 01:17:00.840 uphold state policy. This suggests ongoing challenge is with or 1438 01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:06.880 in effectively coordinating effort, effectively coordinating enforcement efforts, and addressing 1439 01:17:06.920 --> 01:17:11.479 emerging emerging issues within the tobacco industry. It's clear that criminals, 1440 01:17:11.640 --> 01:17:16.079 including organized crime syndicates, are profiting from bootleg cigarettes and 1441 01:17:16.199 --> 01:17:19.520 vapes and have made contraband tobacco products a lucrative part 1442 01:17:19.560 --> 01:17:26.600 of their racketeering endeavors. You mean that, Okay, this is 1443 01:17:26.720 --> 01:17:29.680 this is really what fucking gets me. You want to 1444 01:17:29.720 --> 01:17:31.800 talk about people who are selling it on the streets 1445 01:17:31.800 --> 01:17:35.800 are the criminals. Meanwhile, it's no longer criminalized if you 1446 01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:39.279 can make money off of it. Tell me how that works. 1447 01:17:40.239 --> 01:17:44.520 It's the damn products that are even you, not even 1448 01:17:44.560 --> 01:17:48.159 the same products, way more harmful chemicals that are going 1449 01:17:48.199 --> 01:17:51.720 into what you are selling as legal and you want 1450 01:17:51.720 --> 01:17:53.479 to call everybody else the criminal. 1451 01:17:54.560 --> 01:17:58.000 It's the same reason why you can't have prostitution legal 1452 01:17:58.199 --> 01:17:59.880 because they haven't found a way to tax pussy. 1453 01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:01.800 Dude can't do it. 1454 01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:05.119 That's that's just the way it goes. It's if they 1455 01:18:05.159 --> 01:18:07.800 could find a way to tax it, then like, yeah, 1456 01:18:07.800 --> 01:18:10.560 they're down with it one hundred percent. But now we're 1457 01:18:10.560 --> 01:18:13.520 in that weird gray area because vapes are taxable. It's 1458 01:18:13.640 --> 01:18:15.640 very easy to sell them in stores and get a 1459 01:18:15.720 --> 01:18:18.520 tax from it, right, But now you're stepping on the 1460 01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:22.880 toes of the organization that's already got the monopoly, and 1461 01:18:23.039 --> 01:18:26.239 that's bad that's bad news because that organization's got, like 1462 01:18:26.239 --> 01:18:29.520 we said earlier, very deep ties to the lawmakers. So 1463 01:18:29.560 --> 01:18:30.359 some's got to give. 1464 01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:33.239 Well, And that's the thing is that yes, vapes are 1465 01:18:33.279 --> 01:18:35.920 being taxed, but they're being taxed like everything else. They're 1466 01:18:35.960 --> 01:18:39.399 not being taxed like cigarettes. Cigarettes. They slap like one 1467 01:18:39.479 --> 01:18:43.199 hundred percent tax revenue or one hundred percent tax thing 1468 01:18:43.359 --> 01:18:48.119 on top of it, which main reason why the government 1469 01:18:48.239 --> 01:18:51.319 and the states are having an issue with vaping products 1470 01:18:51.600 --> 01:18:54.439 because they make almost they make more than one hundred 1471 01:18:54.479 --> 01:18:57.479 percent profit. Bro, Yeah, more than one hundred percent. That 1472 01:18:57.600 --> 01:19:00.800 is being lost. Now, whenever you're selling a product, like, 1473 01:19:01.520 --> 01:19:04.199 what's the state tax? I don't think it's a state tax. 1474 01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:06.319 I think it varies from parish to parish in Louisiana, 1475 01:19:06.399 --> 01:19:07.880 but I want to say an ascension parish it's like 1476 01:19:07.920 --> 01:19:09.920 ten percent, nine percent something like that. 1477 01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:12.359 On what on tobacco products? 1478 01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:14.880 No, just in general, on on things that you buy 1479 01:19:14.920 --> 01:19:17.119 at the store. I think it's like nine half or 1480 01:19:17.159 --> 01:19:17.720 something like that. 1481 01:19:18.119 --> 01:19:20.640 It's like a nine point five percent tax. But that's 1482 01:19:20.680 --> 01:19:23.079 a state tax on a parish tax. Now, there are 1483 01:19:23.199 --> 01:19:26.159 certain areas that have an additional tax on top of that. 1484 01:19:26.159 --> 01:19:27.239 That's what's then. 1485 01:19:27.640 --> 01:19:30.039 Yeah, So what I'm saying is is that the vapes 1486 01:19:30.039 --> 01:19:32.520 are only they're getting that tax, but they're not getting 1487 01:19:32.520 --> 01:19:35.119 the additional one hundred percent or whatever that they're getting 1488 01:19:35.119 --> 01:19:39.319 from the cigarettes. Yeah, so that's their issue. They just 1489 01:19:39.359 --> 01:19:42.000 haven't found a way to put a tobacco tax on 1490 01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:43.560 it because there's no fucking tobacco in. 1491 01:19:43.520 --> 01:19:46.880 It, right, And that's the thing. There's a nicotine. If 1492 01:19:46.880 --> 01:19:49.279 they want to put a nicotine tax on it, then 1493 01:19:49.319 --> 01:19:50.399 that's a different conversation. 1494 01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:53.239 They can't do that because the way that they've built 1495 01:19:53.319 --> 01:19:56.239 up this tobacco tax has been an ongoing thing for 1496 01:19:56.399 --> 01:19:57.680 what one hundred years. 1497 01:19:58.039 --> 01:20:00.199 No, they're going to put a nicotine tax on then 1498 01:20:00.279 --> 01:20:03.479 tomatoes just doubled in price as well as much as 1499 01:20:03.479 --> 01:20:07.560 well as most of your fucking produce section. That's that's 1500 01:20:07.600 --> 01:20:08.159 the bit of it. 1501 01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:11.239 Yeah. So this is the the article that I was 1502 01:20:11.319 --> 01:20:15.319 talking about the Royal College of Physicians over in the UK, 1503 01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:21.319 I believe. Yeah, it says nicotine without smoke Tobacco Harm Reduction. 1504 01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:25.119 This was written in twenty nineteen, says this report provides 1505 01:20:25.159 --> 01:20:27.560 an update on the use of harm reduction in tobacco 1506 01:20:27.640 --> 01:20:31.159 smoking in relation to all non tobacco nicotine products, but 1507 01:20:31.319 --> 01:20:35.640 particularly e cigarettes. Think about how they just wrote that out. 1508 01:20:36.359 --> 01:20:42.479 Non tobacco nicotine products could be dip e cigarettes non tobacco. 1509 01:20:43.159 --> 01:20:45.520 Oh yeah, that dip is tobacco. You're right, So like 1510 01:20:45.640 --> 01:20:49.279 zen pouches that's nicked, that's non tobacco nicotine products. 1511 01:20:49.520 --> 01:20:52.000 Yes, yes, me. And this is the challenge that the 1512 01:20:52.079 --> 01:20:54.960 United States is facing amongst other countries. Whenever they're trying 1513 01:20:55.000 --> 01:20:57.439 to label it as a tobacco product, whenever it is 1514 01:20:57.479 --> 01:21:02.199 clearly a non tobacco nicotine product, right, Okay, So that's 1515 01:21:02.199 --> 01:21:04.399 why they're they're just they would just rather ban it 1516 01:21:04.520 --> 01:21:06.119 rather than implement a new system. 1517 01:21:06.800 --> 01:21:09.880 Right, They're just going to ban the flavorings on tobacco products, 1518 01:21:09.880 --> 01:21:11.520 even though yeah, you can go to court and fight 1519 01:21:11.560 --> 01:21:14.760 it and say, well, this vape has no tobacco in it, 1520 01:21:14.960 --> 01:21:17.800 so we are exempt from everything that you just said. 1521 01:21:18.159 --> 01:21:20.960 The problem is that judge answers to the letter of 1522 01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:23.359 the law, and the letter of the law is written 1523 01:21:23.359 --> 01:21:26.680 by people who are being bought by big tobacco. So 1524 01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:29.720 that's just kind of how the cookie crumbles, right, Right. 1525 01:21:30.640 --> 01:21:33.680 So it says that it shows that for all the 1526 01:21:33.720 --> 01:21:37.640 potential risks involved, harm reduction has a huge potential to 1527 01:21:37.720 --> 01:21:41.640 prevent death and disability from tobacco use and to hasten 1528 01:21:41.720 --> 01:21:45.960 our progress to a tobacco free society. So this was 1529 01:21:46.399 --> 01:21:49.680 an article and a study that they did to try 1530 01:21:49.720 --> 01:21:53.279 and see if if vaping is actually, i don't want 1531 01:21:53.279 --> 01:21:56.920 to say a healthy alternative, but a healthy er alternative 1532 01:21:57.119 --> 01:22:01.720 to cigarettes. So fall following reported deaths and disease in 1533 01:22:01.720 --> 01:22:04.960 the United States linked to vaping see the RCPs position 1534 01:22:05.039 --> 01:22:07.199 statement on different Okay, we're not going to read that part. 1535 01:22:07.439 --> 01:22:10.039 So there are key recommendations that it says it says 1536 01:22:10.079 --> 01:22:13.640 smoking is the biggest avoidable cause of death and disability 1537 01:22:13.800 --> 01:22:17.880 and social inequality and health in the in the United Kingdom, 1538 01:22:17.960 --> 01:22:22.000 So the biggest avoidable cause of death and disability. So 1539 01:22:22.159 --> 01:22:25.199 then it says provision of the nicotine that smokers are 1540 01:22:25.239 --> 01:22:29.359 addicted to without the harmful components of tobacco, of tobacco 1541 01:22:29.399 --> 01:22:32.640 smoke can prevent most of the harm from smoking. So 1542 01:22:34.359 --> 01:22:36.399 that's what they found in one of their things. So 1543 01:22:36.800 --> 01:22:41.039 Nicotine replacement the therapy or NRT is the most effective 1544 01:22:41.039 --> 01:22:43.520 in helping people to stop smoking when used together with 1545 01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:46.560 health professional input and support, but much less so when 1546 01:22:46.760 --> 01:22:47.600 used on its own. 1547 01:22:47.880 --> 01:22:53.840 So if you're that could be patches, right, Nicotine replacement 1548 01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:58.119 therapy so instead of smoking or vaping or dip. Yeah, 1549 01:22:58.159 --> 01:23:00.760 so you're telling me nicotine gum and patches are seen 1550 01:23:00.840 --> 01:23:04.720 as very effective ways along with some outside professional help. Yeah, 1551 01:23:04.920 --> 01:23:06.239 I would agree with that statement. 1552 01:23:06.840 --> 01:23:10.920 E cigarettes are marketed as consumer products and are proving 1553 01:23:11.079 --> 01:23:14.960 much more popular than NRT as a substitute and competitor 1554 01:23:15.039 --> 01:23:19.680 for tobacco cigarettes. So they give you that fucking nicotine 1555 01:23:19.720 --> 01:23:24.119 hit those patches suck, dude, the nicotine gum. I'm sorry 1556 01:23:24.159 --> 01:23:24.840 it's not enough. 1557 01:23:25.319 --> 01:23:28.239 I cannot fucking pull out a filling trying to chew 1558 01:23:28.279 --> 01:23:30.000 that bitch for a second, then tucking it back in 1559 01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:32.319 your lip. Then those patches. I remember trying to quit 1560 01:23:32.319 --> 01:23:33.840 while I was in the Marine Corps. Dude, I had 1561 01:23:33.840 --> 01:23:35.560 like ten of them bitches on my arm. At one 1562 01:23:35.600 --> 01:23:37.720 point I was rubbing them to try to like cause 1563 01:23:37.880 --> 01:23:39.560 I keep seeing people you gotta rub it and like 1564 01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:42.319 that activates it or some shit fucking looks like a 1565 01:23:42.359 --> 01:23:44.800 meth hit scratching in my arm all day. It did nothing. 1566 01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:46.479 It did fucking nothing. 1567 01:23:47.000 --> 01:23:50.439 Not at all. It says E cigarettes are not currently 1568 01:23:50.479 --> 01:23:54.159 made to medicine standards and are probably more hazardous than NRT, 1569 01:23:54.920 --> 01:23:58.560 so that's what they found. Probably more hazardous. Still, obviously 1570 01:23:58.560 --> 01:24:02.920 they're going to be right because they're not regulated. Some 1571 01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:06.399 of them are, but not regulated by the World Health 1572 01:24:06.479 --> 01:24:10.359 Organization or the National Institute of Health and stuff like that, right. 1573 01:24:11.279 --> 01:24:14.479 It says, however, the hazard to health arising from long 1574 01:24:14.560 --> 01:24:17.920 term vapor inhalation from the e cigarettes available today is 1575 01:24:18.119 --> 01:24:22.319 unlikely to exceed five percent of the harm from smoking tobacco. 1576 01:24:24.479 --> 01:24:26.800 Wow, this is. 1577 01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:29.359 The receipts, baby, This is the fucking receipts for anybody 1578 01:24:29.439 --> 01:24:31.520 that has ever said, well, I might much rather you 1579 01:24:31.520 --> 01:24:34.399 smoke a cigarette because we at least know the outcome cancer. 1580 01:24:35.159 --> 01:24:37.239 Hey, like, listen. 1581 01:24:37.079 --> 01:24:38.199 To what's coming out of your mouth. 1582 01:24:38.560 --> 01:24:40.760 I'd rather use smoke heroin because at least we know 1583 01:24:40.840 --> 01:24:42.920 the outcome. That kratim shit, You just don't know what 1584 01:24:42.960 --> 01:24:43.840 it's gonna I'm sorry. 1585 01:24:43.960 --> 01:24:48.600 What So it's so ignorant and so dumb to say 1586 01:24:48.640 --> 01:24:50.960 anything like that. Do a little bit of the research 1587 01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:54.960 on your own. Uh, that's dangerous, don't do that. Listen 1588 01:24:54.960 --> 01:24:57.920 to the export. Well, here's the fucking experts right here. Yeah, absolutely, 1589 01:24:58.239 --> 01:25:01.880 so unlikely to exceed percent of the harm from smoking tobacco, 1590 01:25:02.680 --> 01:25:07.840 so way healthier or were we way not as harmful? 1591 01:25:08.439 --> 01:25:12.560 Yeah, it's again, there's not there's not a no risk 1592 01:25:12.800 --> 01:25:16.479 answer as far as vapes are concerned. But the ninety 1593 01:25:16.520 --> 01:25:21.000 five to five comparison, bro that is that's a drastic measure. 1594 01:25:21.039 --> 01:25:24.239 Once again, let me ask you something. If a glass 1595 01:25:24.439 --> 01:25:27.520 was ninety five percent full, Jonathan, would you call that 1596 01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:30.520 a full glass or a partially empty glass? 1597 01:25:30.720 --> 01:25:33.439 I would venture to say that that thing is full, sir. 1598 01:25:34.239 --> 01:25:35.840 Now, let's flip that. If you had a glass that 1599 01:25:35.920 --> 01:25:39.199 was five percent full, would you say that that glass 1600 01:25:39.279 --> 01:25:42.880 is full or would you say it's probably it's more 1601 01:25:42.920 --> 01:25:46.359 on the empty side as damn near empty. Okay. See, 1602 01:25:46.479 --> 01:25:48.560 you see it's different when you put it to a 1603 01:25:48.560 --> 01:25:52.840 different comparison. People are like, well there's still that five percent. Okay, 1604 01:25:53.079 --> 01:25:55.479 your gas tank in your car's got five percent in 1605 01:25:55.560 --> 01:25:57.720 it right now, tell me if you think your tank 1606 01:25:57.800 --> 01:25:58.399 is full or not. 1607 01:26:00.319 --> 01:26:06.199 Really just saying, technological developments and improve production standards could 1608 01:26:06.239 --> 01:26:09.680 reduce the long term hazard of e cigarettes. So instead 1609 01:26:09.720 --> 01:26:11.920 of trying to ban them and push them to the 1610 01:26:11.960 --> 01:26:15.119 black market, how about we try and I don't know, 1611 01:26:15.239 --> 01:26:17.479 make them a little bit safer. Let's actually try to 1612 01:26:17.520 --> 01:26:20.880 implement them. Fucking forget your big tobacco tax that you 1613 01:26:20.920 --> 01:26:25.640 are receiving on the back end every single year. And look, 1614 01:26:26.279 --> 01:26:29.479 I don't understand why you need to tax something in 1615 01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:33.039 order to make it healthier, right in fucking sense? 1616 01:26:33.640 --> 01:26:37.199 Oh my god. And it's all because of flavorings, or 1617 01:26:37.239 --> 01:26:38.920 at least that's how they have to list it as 1618 01:26:38.960 --> 01:26:41.960 because it's flavored tobacco and all of this. It's not 1619 01:26:41.960 --> 01:26:45.239 even about the fact that it's a vapable with nicotine substitute. 1620 01:26:45.439 --> 01:26:48.159 It's the fact that there's a flavor associated with it. 1621 01:26:48.159 --> 01:26:51.399 It says there are concerns that e cigarettes will increase 1622 01:26:51.439 --> 01:26:55.199 tobacco smoking by renormalizing the act of smoking, acting as 1623 01:26:55.239 --> 01:26:57.920 a gateway to smoking and young people, and being used 1624 01:26:57.920 --> 01:27:01.079 for temporary, not permanent abstincens from smoking. 1625 01:27:01.560 --> 01:27:03.720 I'm gonna disagree with that one. I'm sorry, you're not 1626 01:27:03.760 --> 01:27:08.359 gonna go from smoking blue raspberry or strawberry banana to ooh, 1627 01:27:08.479 --> 01:27:10.880 let me get the taste of licking an ash tray back. 1628 01:27:10.960 --> 01:27:12.560 That is such a better alternative. 1629 01:27:12.760 --> 01:27:15.279 Like I said, I smoked for I want to say, eleven, twelve, 1630 01:27:15.319 --> 01:27:19.840 thirteen years something like that, right, and and and I 1631 01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:22.239 was totally used to it, used to the smell, used 1632 01:27:22.279 --> 01:27:24.840 to the taste, you know, used to going outside and 1633 01:27:24.880 --> 01:27:27.039 having to do it and everything. Now I've been vaping 1634 01:27:27.079 --> 01:27:29.159 for quite a while now, like I don't even know 1635 01:27:29.199 --> 01:27:32.840 how many years, probably six years ish, I would say, 1636 01:27:33.680 --> 01:27:36.159 been vaping for that long. I have you tried to 1637 01:27:36.199 --> 01:27:38.159 go back and smoke a cigarette, bro, I have. 1638 01:27:38.239 --> 01:27:39.239 It's fucking gross? 1639 01:27:39.399 --> 01:27:40.560 Jad is that disgusting? 1640 01:27:41.079 --> 01:27:45.039 And that? Dude? Okay, here's it's much. 1641 01:27:45.079 --> 01:27:48.319 It's not It doesn't fulfill anything, No, I. 1642 01:27:48.279 --> 01:27:51.479 Mean, at least uh satisfied the nicotine craving. I will 1643 01:27:51.479 --> 01:27:56.479 give it that. But here's the deal, dude, whenever they 1644 01:27:56.600 --> 01:28:00.079 had uh even the like views and in all of that, 1645 01:28:00.680 --> 01:28:08.199 it's tobacco flavored vape, Bro, that's also not a positive taste. 1646 01:28:08.239 --> 01:28:10.760 And I mean I smoke cigars. I enjoy the taste 1647 01:28:10.800 --> 01:28:14.239 of good tobacco. That wasn't it. And it doesn't taste 1648 01:28:14.239 --> 01:28:18.079 anything like a cigarette either, And you can appreciate smoking 1649 01:28:18.119 --> 01:28:19.079 something natural. 1650 01:28:19.439 --> 01:28:22.279 So yes, that's the thing about cigars is that it's 1651 01:28:22.319 --> 01:28:24.840 not only the flavor. It's more so that like, oh, 1652 01:28:24.880 --> 01:28:26.760 I'm smoking nature right now, bro. 1653 01:28:27.159 --> 01:28:31.520 Absolutely absolutely, But dude, the whole conversation of yeah, well, 1654 01:28:31.560 --> 01:28:35.720 if you people that are vaping views are more likely 1655 01:28:35.760 --> 01:28:39.399 to swap to Marlboro Reds because they got for the 1656 01:28:39.439 --> 01:28:41.960 bold flavor of the of the vape. And then they 1657 01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:43.199 just want to say, you know what, fuck it, I'm 1658 01:28:43.239 --> 01:28:45.840 gonna just buy a pack of cigarettes today or whatever. Again, 1659 01:28:45.960 --> 01:28:48.359 that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about 1660 01:28:48.399 --> 01:28:51.199 the sour apples and the white gummy bears and all 1661 01:28:51.279 --> 01:28:54.000 these things. You're not going from that to picking up 1662 01:28:54.039 --> 01:28:55.079 a pack of Lucky Strikes. 1663 01:28:55.119 --> 01:28:57.079 I'm sorry, bro, let me tell you it was like 1664 01:28:57.119 --> 01:29:00.000 two or three weeks ago. I didn't have a vape. 1665 01:29:00.079 --> 01:29:02.279 Been the place that I went to, we're out of 1666 01:29:02.319 --> 01:29:04.319 them or something like that. And so I went to 1667 01:29:04.359 --> 01:29:07.039 this gas station and I was like, you know what, 1668 01:29:07.079 --> 01:29:09.159 they don't have any of the vapes that I like. 1669 01:29:09.239 --> 01:29:11.000 I'm just gonna try a jewel. It's been a while 1670 01:29:11.039 --> 01:29:14.279 since I had a jewel, right, Yeah, two different flavors, 1671 01:29:14.319 --> 01:29:18.039 just the natural tobacco and like mint, and so I 1672 01:29:18.079 --> 01:29:19.439 was like, all right, well, at least let me get 1673 01:29:19.439 --> 01:29:22.399 some kind of flavor. I got the mint one, right, dude. 1674 01:29:22.960 --> 01:29:24.800 I mean, if you're smoking that, you may as well 1675 01:29:24.840 --> 01:29:26.800 go back to smoking cigarettes. Bro on some real shit. 1676 01:29:27.279 --> 01:29:30.279 Which is the point that they just said, Right, that's 1677 01:29:30.439 --> 01:29:32.520 they think that that's how it's gonna be. But again, 1678 01:29:33.239 --> 01:29:36.520 if you put shit flavoring into something, yeah, you're gonna 1679 01:29:36.520 --> 01:29:39.039 force the market back into that place. But that's not 1680 01:29:39.159 --> 01:29:41.359 where we're trying to go with it. Man. If they 1681 01:29:41.359 --> 01:29:45.640 would come out with a flavorless vape, just throwing it 1682 01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:50.520 out hypothetically speaking, if this was fuck whatever color it is, 1683 01:29:51.119 --> 01:29:55.479 if you could give me a flavorless vapable nicotine product, 1684 01:29:55.840 --> 01:29:59.960 I'm fucking down. I'm good that alleviates the entire flavoring converse. 1685 01:30:00.840 --> 01:30:04.319 It alleviates the tobacco. Big Tobacco is gonna just have 1686 01:30:04.399 --> 01:30:06.600 to find some other way to fight that fight. But 1687 01:30:06.680 --> 01:30:08.560 it couldn't be because the flavorings. It's not going to 1688 01:30:08.600 --> 01:30:12.039 be marketed to children's You see what I'm saying. I 1689 01:30:12.159 --> 01:30:12.479 get it. 1690 01:30:13.399 --> 01:30:14.039 Yeah, I don't know. 1691 01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:16.960 I fuck. We might even try to start a business 1692 01:30:17.000 --> 01:30:18.960 like that. That would be dope. The cult of conspiracy, 1693 01:30:19.000 --> 01:30:22.039 flavorless vapable nicotine, I like. 1694 01:30:22.039 --> 01:30:24.760 It, and they have those. So it made me think 1695 01:30:24.840 --> 01:30:27.159 as I tried that views or not the views the 1696 01:30:27.680 --> 01:30:31.000 Jewel Right made me think like, oh wow, I wonder 1697 01:30:31.000 --> 01:30:33.000 if this is owned by Big Tobacco and then what 1698 01:30:33.079 --> 01:30:35.159 it is today that it is so of course they're 1699 01:30:35.159 --> 01:30:37.840 gonna make the shitty ones make you want to go 1700 01:30:37.880 --> 01:30:39.359 back to smoking actual cigarettes. 1701 01:30:40.119 --> 01:30:42.760 It's crazy how they've worked that out in their own heads. 1702 01:30:43.479 --> 01:30:47.079 Yeah, so it says. However, the available evidence to date 1703 01:30:47.159 --> 01:30:50.880 indicates that these cigarettes are being used almost exclusively as 1704 01:30:50.920 --> 01:30:55.039 safer alternatives to smoke tobacco by confirmed smokers who are 1705 01:30:55.079 --> 01:30:58.239 trying to reduce harm to themselves or others from smoking, 1706 01:30:58.359 --> 01:31:01.840 or to quit smoking completely. So it said you have 1707 01:31:02.000 --> 01:31:04.479 tiny odds that you know, once you start vaping that 1708 01:31:04.479 --> 01:31:08.359 you're gonna be uh, you're gonna have a good chance 1709 01:31:08.439 --> 01:31:11.199 of going back to cigarettes. Those are tiny odds. However, 1710 01:31:11.600 --> 01:31:16.039 you know, it doesn't say a percentage here, but it 1711 01:31:16.119 --> 01:31:19.760 does say that if you're if you're vaping on a vape, 1712 01:31:19.760 --> 01:31:22.600 are you smoking on a vape, you are so unlikely 1713 01:31:22.680 --> 01:31:25.680 to go back to smoking cigarettes, and so that shouldn't 1714 01:31:25.680 --> 01:31:30.239 even be really talked about, right absolutely. It says there 1715 01:31:30.359 --> 01:31:33.239 is a need for regulation to reduce direct and indirect 1716 01:31:33.319 --> 01:31:36.199 adverse effects of e cigarette use, but this regulation should 1717 01:31:36.199 --> 01:31:39.720 not be allowed significantly to inhibit the development and use 1718 01:31:39.760 --> 01:31:43.359 of harm reduction products by smokers. Mm hm, So get 1719 01:31:43.399 --> 01:31:45.439 your jewels out of here, Get the fuck out of here. 1720 01:31:45.439 --> 01:31:48.479 With that, We don't want them. No one wants them anymore. 1721 01:31:48.520 --> 01:31:51.199 At one point they did when they were flavored decently. 1722 01:31:51.600 --> 01:31:53.159 Nobody fucks at that shit anymore. 1723 01:31:53.640 --> 01:31:56.319 It says, However, in the interests of public health, it 1724 01:31:56.359 --> 01:32:00.279 is important to promote the use of e cigarettes. Important 1725 01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:03.880 to promote the use of e cigarettes and RT and 1726 01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:08.039 other non tobacco nicotine products as widely as possible as 1727 01:32:08.159 --> 01:32:14.279 a substitute for smoking in the UK. I agree right there, right, 1728 01:32:14.399 --> 01:32:18.119 that's all you need. Like the doctors, the experts have 1729 01:32:18.279 --> 01:32:21.960 come out and said, not only should people be allowed 1730 01:32:22.000 --> 01:32:25.920 to vape, it should be promoted in the interest of 1731 01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:29.039 public health. If we really care about our citizens, we 1732 01:32:29.119 --> 01:32:32.000 really care about our people, we should be promoting vaping 1733 01:32:32.279 --> 01:32:34.600 as opposed to taking them off the shelves. 1734 01:32:35.000 --> 01:32:37.119 But of course we can't do that, at least not 1735 01:32:37.159 --> 01:32:37.800 in this country. 1736 01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:43.239 Royal College of Physicians fucking shout out. Indeed, what a study. 1737 01:32:44.279 --> 01:32:48.680 Nextly we have here This is another article. This is 1738 01:32:48.720 --> 01:32:53.600 by www dot gov dot UK. So okay, right there, 1739 01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:56.600 they're going to talk about pretty similar things. Here says 1740 01:32:56.680 --> 01:33:00.960 e cigarettes are around ninety five percent less harmful than 1741 01:33:01.000 --> 01:33:06.199 tobacco estimates Landmark review. So expert independent review concludes that 1742 01:33:06.199 --> 01:33:09.880 e cigarettes have potential to help smokers quit. 1743 01:33:10.600 --> 01:33:12.319 Bro Look at the picture of those vapes, those of those 1744 01:33:12.279 --> 01:33:14.880 old school ones I was talking about. Oh yeah, little 1745 01:33:14.880 --> 01:33:16.720 glass tanks on him and you screw them on top 1746 01:33:16.720 --> 01:33:18.479 of the battery. I don't know what the fuck that 1747 01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:21.359 lighter looking thing is. That's a wild one. But yeah, 1748 01:33:21.479 --> 01:33:25.039 this was like the early stages of the vaping craze, 1749 01:33:25.079 --> 01:33:27.840 at least in America. What year was this article written. 1750 01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:29.359 Uh, twenty fifteen. 1751 01:33:30.079 --> 01:33:32.520 Okay, around the time where that was your standard vape, 1752 01:33:32.520 --> 01:33:35.359 you'd be going to a vape shop to buy fuck yeah. 1753 01:33:34.920 --> 01:33:38.720 Right right so. An expert independent evidence review published by 1754 01:33:39.039 --> 01:33:42.840 published today by Public Health England concludes that e cigarettes 1755 01:33:42.880 --> 01:33:46.720 are significantly less harmful to health than tobacco and have 1756 01:33:46.880 --> 01:33:50.479 the potential to help smokers quit smoking. The key findings 1757 01:33:50.479 --> 01:33:53.920 of the review include It says the current best estimate 1758 01:33:54.039 --> 01:33:57.239 is that e cigarettes are around ninety five percent less 1759 01:33:57.239 --> 01:34:00.439 harmful than smoking. Nearly half of the population, which is 1760 01:34:00.479 --> 01:34:02.680 forty four point eight percent. I believe that's of the 1761 01:34:02.760 --> 01:34:06.880 UK don't realize that e cigarettes are much less harmful 1762 01:34:06.920 --> 01:34:11.560 than smoking. So with the propaganda, well with you know, 1763 01:34:11.640 --> 01:34:14.159 by the AD Council and Big Tobacco and all that 1764 01:34:14.239 --> 01:34:17.079 other shit. Now, all the propaganda that is being pushed, 1765 01:34:17.279 --> 01:34:20.319 people are at least half of the people forty four 1766 01:34:20.319 --> 01:34:23.159 percent or forty four damn near forty five percent of 1767 01:34:23.199 --> 01:34:26.560 people are buying into that, which makes sense propaganda. I 1768 01:34:26.600 --> 01:34:31.119 would say it works at least to that standard, and 1769 01:34:31.720 --> 01:34:35.359 forty five percent of people are buying that cigarettes are 1770 01:34:35.399 --> 01:34:36.279 healthier than vapes. 1771 01:34:36.640 --> 01:34:40.079 In the UK and again twenty fifteen, that was the 1772 01:34:40.079 --> 01:34:43.640 big stigma, right, that was all these ad campaigns are 1773 01:34:43.640 --> 01:34:46.000 going out to talk about the dangers of vaping because 1774 01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:47.840 there's so much you know, you don't even know what 1775 01:34:47.920 --> 01:34:50.079 chemicals are in there. There's all kinds of stuff in 1776 01:34:50.079 --> 01:34:52.439 there you don't even know about. And it's like, again, 1777 01:34:52.560 --> 01:34:54.960 even back in twenty fifteen, I was able to do 1778 01:34:55.039 --> 01:34:58.000 a very quick Google search and answer that question. 1779 01:34:58.159 --> 01:35:01.760 So, I mean, whatever, bro check this out this next one. So, 1780 01:35:02.560 --> 01:35:06.359 the the big reason for banning vapes, as we have read, 1781 01:35:07.079 --> 01:35:11.039 is because they are trying to limit the use for children. Right. 1782 01:35:11.119 --> 01:35:13.960 They don't want kids vaping in schools, right, you gotta 1783 01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:17.399 save the children. Read this one rate here it says 1784 01:35:17.640 --> 01:35:21.079 there is no evidence so far that e cigarettes are 1785 01:35:21.119 --> 01:35:24.920 acting as a route into smoking for children or non smokers, 1786 01:35:25.359 --> 01:35:26.640 no evidence to support that. 1787 01:35:27.119 --> 01:35:30.520 I believe that one hundred percent. Why would somebody taste 1788 01:35:30.680 --> 01:35:33.760 something that tastes like candy and then one day be like, man, 1789 01:35:34.359 --> 01:35:37.560 that ass tray be looking real tasty. Right about now, 1790 01:35:37.720 --> 01:35:40.760 No kid going into teenage years, going into young twenty 1791 01:35:40.800 --> 01:35:43.640 somethings are going to make that mental jump. 1792 01:35:43.760 --> 01:35:47.159 I'm sorry, just not gonna happen, and so it says. 1793 01:35:47.199 --> 01:35:51.279 The review, commissioned by PHE and led by Professor Ann McNeil, 1794 01:35:52.079 --> 01:35:55.520 which is of the King's College, London and Professor Peter 1795 01:35:55.880 --> 01:36:00.359 Hagick of Queen Mary University of London, suggests that sarets 1796 01:36:00.399 --> 01:36:04.319 may be contributing to falling smoking rates among adults and 1797 01:36:04.359 --> 01:36:07.600 young people. Following the review, pH has published a paper 1798 01:36:07.640 --> 01:36:10.600 on the implications of the evidence for policy and practice. 1799 01:36:10.760 --> 01:36:14.560 The Comprehensive Comprehensive Review of the evidence finds that almost 1800 01:36:14.600 --> 01:36:17.600 all of the two point six million adults using e 1801 01:36:17.720 --> 01:36:21.199 cigarettes in Great Britain are current or ex smokers, most 1802 01:36:21.239 --> 01:36:23.640 of whom are using the devices to help them quit 1803 01:36:23.680 --> 01:36:26.079 smoking or to prevent them from going back to cigarettes. 1804 01:36:26.319 --> 01:36:29.439 It also provides reassurance that very few adults and young 1805 01:36:29.479 --> 01:36:33.560 people have never smoked are becoming regular e cigarette users, 1806 01:36:33.760 --> 01:36:36.319 less than one percent in each group. So to say 1807 01:36:36.359 --> 01:36:40.399 that vaping is roping more people in than cigarettes ever 1808 01:36:40.520 --> 01:36:43.319 did is conclusively incorrect. 1809 01:36:44.079 --> 01:36:46.800 That's like saying, all right, so, how many kids are 1810 01:36:46.840 --> 01:36:49.439 on some sort of amphetamines right now, prescribed by their 1811 01:36:49.479 --> 01:36:52.279 doctor for add or ADHD or something like that. Many 1812 01:36:52.600 --> 01:36:55.680 how many of them grow up to be just strung 1813 01:36:55.720 --> 01:36:56.800 out on crystal math. 1814 01:36:57.640 --> 01:37:01.039 I mean there's a percentage, but it's very minute. I 1815 01:37:01.079 --> 01:37:04.159 would say, I would say maybe one percent. 1816 01:37:04.279 --> 01:37:06.560 And it's not because they got hooked on adderall as 1817 01:37:06.560 --> 01:37:08.119 a kid and they had to get their fix when 1818 01:37:08.119 --> 01:37:11.359 they got older. That that's simply just not how that works. 1819 01:37:11.479 --> 01:37:14.560 I've never once taken an adderall and thought, you know, 1820 01:37:14.600 --> 01:37:16.119 it would be better some meth. 1821 01:37:16.720 --> 01:37:19.439 Exactly, Like, what kind of mental hoops do you got 1822 01:37:19.479 --> 01:37:21.439 to jump through to say that, oh, yeah, you're getting 1823 01:37:21.439 --> 01:37:24.359 these kids on adderall and riddling and concerto and all that. 1824 01:37:24.640 --> 01:37:27.239 It's just a fucking streamline to be in a drug 1825 01:37:27.279 --> 01:37:31.760 at it. It's not at all actually, but okay. 1826 01:37:31.520 --> 01:37:35.000 Says However, the review raises concerns that increasing numbers of 1827 01:37:35.039 --> 01:37:38.560 people think e cigarettes are equally or more harmful than smoking. 1828 01:37:38.720 --> 01:37:41.199 So twenty two percent and twenty fifteen, up from eight 1829 01:37:41.239 --> 01:37:44.880 point one percent in twenty thirteen. So the Ash Smoke 1830 01:37:44.960 --> 01:37:50.000 Free GB surveyor or they don't know twenty two percent 1831 01:37:50.119 --> 01:37:56.199 in twenty fifteen that it's actually less harmful. So that's 1832 01:37:56.239 --> 01:37:58.239 the problem that they're trying to suggest here, is that 1833 01:37:58.279 --> 01:38:01.279 people are still being brought in by into the propaganda 1834 01:38:01.600 --> 01:38:06.119 that's smoking, or that vaping is equally or more harmful 1835 01:38:06.159 --> 01:38:10.479 than smoking cigarettes. This survey concludes that at least twenty 1836 01:38:10.520 --> 01:38:13.319 two percent of people thought that in twenty fifteen, and 1837 01:38:13.399 --> 01:38:15.319 that number obviously going to be raising. We just read 1838 01:38:15.359 --> 01:38:18.000 earlier that what was at forty five percent now believe 1839 01:38:18.039 --> 01:38:24.319 that propaganda's absolutely doing its job. Despite this trend, all 1840 01:38:24.359 --> 01:38:27.520 current evidence finds that e cigarettes carry a fraction of 1841 01:38:27.560 --> 01:38:32.520 the risk of smoking. All current evidence finds that e 1842 01:38:32.680 --> 01:38:35.720 cigarettes carry a fraction of the risk of smoking. Emerging 1843 01:38:35.760 --> 01:38:38.720 evidence suggests some of the highest successful quit rates are 1844 01:38:38.840 --> 01:38:42.159 now seen amongst smokers who use an e cigarette and 1845 01:38:42.319 --> 01:38:46.039 also receive additional support from their local stop smoking services. 1846 01:38:46.479 --> 01:38:49.760 So if you're trying to quit smoking, you have a 1847 01:38:49.760 --> 01:38:53.000 better chance at quitting smoking if you switch to vaping. 1848 01:38:53.640 --> 01:39:00.760 That's what this is suggesting. Yeah, so yeah, it says 1849 01:39:01.319 --> 01:39:04.159 Professor Kevin Fenton, director of Health and well Being at 1850 01:39:04.159 --> 01:39:08.479 Public Health England, said smoking remains England's number one killer 1851 01:39:08.520 --> 01:39:10.399 and the best thing a smoker can do is quit 1852 01:39:10.479 --> 01:39:14.960 completely now and forever. These sprits are not completely risk free, 1853 01:39:15.039 --> 01:39:17.560 but when compared to smoking, evidence shows that they carry 1854 01:39:17.600 --> 01:39:20.399 just a fraction of the harm The problem is people 1855 01:39:20.439 --> 01:39:23.960 increasingly think that they are at least as harmful, and 1856 01:39:24.199 --> 01:39:28.359 this may be keeping millions of smokers from quitting called 1857 01:39:28.439 --> 01:39:30.960 England coming through with the clutch information bro. 1858 01:39:31.560 --> 01:39:33.560 Absolutely, And that's the other thing too. They say a 1859 01:39:33.640 --> 01:39:38.279 fraction of the harm that's kind of misleading in a 1860 01:39:38.279 --> 01:39:42.399 certain regard, right, because like saying it's eighty percent, or 1861 01:39:42.720 --> 01:39:46.760 to say it's even like twenty percent less harmful means 1862 01:39:46.760 --> 01:39:50.159 you're still getting eighty percent of the bad. Bro five 1863 01:39:50.279 --> 01:39:54.239 percent at most is at most in best or in 1864 01:39:54.279 --> 01:39:57.680 this case worst case scenarios, it is like you're getting 1865 01:39:57.800 --> 01:40:01.479 ninety five percent less harm full shit into your body 1866 01:40:01.479 --> 01:40:03.960 from doing this. I feel like there was a better 1867 01:40:04.000 --> 01:40:05.159 way they could aworded that. 1868 01:40:05.159 --> 01:40:08.319 I'm just saying, yeah, I mean a fraction whatever, I'll 1869 01:40:08.319 --> 01:40:11.520 take it. It's it's it's worth, it's better than smoking. 1870 01:40:11.640 --> 01:40:12.800 I'll take that. 1871 01:40:12.800 --> 01:40:13.520 That's what I need. 1872 01:40:14.279 --> 01:40:16.239 Uh, Because I'm tired of people saying that, you know, 1873 01:40:16.279 --> 01:40:18.159 you may as well just go back to smoking cigarettes. 1874 01:40:18.199 --> 01:40:23.840 I'm like, my god, stop stop with that. Uh. To 1875 01:40:23.920 --> 01:40:27.920 say that in oh wait, yeah, to say that in 1876 01:40:27.960 --> 01:40:32.840 Portuguese patacail that means stop it. That means stop that. 1877 01:40:36.319 --> 01:40:38.840 So it says e cigarettes could be a game changer 1878 01:40:38.840 --> 01:40:42.720 in public health, in particular by reducing the enormous health 1879 01:40:42.760 --> 01:40:47.199 inequalities caused by smoking. Professor Peter Hajek I think or 1880 01:40:47.279 --> 01:40:51.560 Hayak maybe of the Queen Mary University, London and independent 1881 01:40:51.560 --> 01:40:54.760 author of the review said in his quotes, he said, 1882 01:40:54.920 --> 01:40:57.880 my reading of the evidence is that smokers who switched 1883 01:40:57.920 --> 01:41:02.039 to vapor remove almost all the risks smoking poses to 1884 01:41:02.159 --> 01:41:02.640 their health. 1885 01:41:03.359 --> 01:41:04.560 Removes almost all. 1886 01:41:04.479 --> 01:41:07.760 Of the risk. Smokers differ in their needs, and I 1887 01:41:07.800 --> 01:41:10.920 would advise them not to give up on the cigarettes 1888 01:41:10.960 --> 01:41:13.159 if they do not like the first one that they try. 1889 01:41:13.319 --> 01:41:15.920 So he's saying, if you don't like it at first, 1890 01:41:16.319 --> 01:41:19.159 keep with it because it's by all means it is 1891 01:41:19.199 --> 01:41:23.359 way safer than smoking cigarettes. A professor, So, I. 1892 01:41:23.319 --> 01:41:25.600 Knew some old cats I used to work with that they, 1893 01:41:25.760 --> 01:41:29.359 you know, chain smokers, had been for forever, and they 1894 01:41:29.399 --> 01:41:31.119 said that they didn't like the babes. They tried it, 1895 01:41:31.159 --> 01:41:32.720 but it hurt their throat too much and they were 1896 01:41:32.760 --> 01:41:34.800 too strong and all these things. They just wanted to 1897 01:41:34.800 --> 01:41:37.239 stick to their Marlboro lights and they were satisfied with it. 1898 01:41:37.960 --> 01:41:40.279 Bro you could you could there's some like this one 1899 01:41:40.279 --> 01:41:43.079 you could turn down the amount of airflow you get, 1900 01:41:43.359 --> 01:41:45.720 you can turn down the strength level or how much 1901 01:41:45.840 --> 01:41:48.479 voltage you're sending to the coil, and it's a lighter hit. 1902 01:41:49.039 --> 01:41:52.359 So like again I had to agree with the doctor here. 1903 01:41:52.720 --> 01:41:54.680 You maybe you don't need something that feels that you're 1904 01:41:54.720 --> 01:41:57.760 taking a drag off a full own cigar every single time. 1905 01:41:58.119 --> 01:42:00.000 Maybe once them is a little lighter because you're try 1906 01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:02.960 trying to step down your nicotine intake. Right, I thought 1907 01:42:02.960 --> 01:42:03.560 that was the point. 1908 01:42:03.720 --> 01:42:05.720 Well, he even takes it a step farther and says 1909 01:42:05.840 --> 01:42:09.399 it may take some some experimentation with different products and 1910 01:42:09.439 --> 01:42:12.920 e liquids to find the right one. So great, try it, 1911 01:42:13.079 --> 01:42:15.520 keep trying it, keep finding it, so trying until you 1912 01:42:15.560 --> 01:42:16.399 find the one that you like. 1913 01:42:16.920 --> 01:42:18.880 So with these old vapes, like twenty fifteen when this 1914 01:42:18.920 --> 01:42:20.720 article was written and we saw the picture of those 1915 01:42:20.760 --> 01:42:22.600 vapes of the little glass tanks and the battery and 1916 01:42:22.640 --> 01:42:25.800 all that. So this is before salt nik was a thing. Yeah, 1917 01:42:25.840 --> 01:42:27.800 you remember these days where it was just regular vape 1918 01:42:27.840 --> 01:42:31.199 juice yep, and you had to buy however many milligrams 1919 01:42:31.239 --> 01:42:33.960 of nicotine and they had the threes, the fives, the 1920 01:42:34.000 --> 01:42:37.880 twelves and whatever. Else. So to put it to perspective, 1921 01:42:38.119 --> 01:42:41.359 whenever I swapped from cigarettes to vaping, I had to 1922 01:42:41.359 --> 01:42:45.399 get thirty milligram juice, which was like it was some 1923 01:42:45.439 --> 01:42:48.439 of the hardest you could find, honestly, but I needed 1924 01:42:48.439 --> 01:42:50.640 that hit, like I wanted to feel it in my 1925 01:42:50.720 --> 01:42:53.119 chest because I was trying to quit smoking. Then I 1926 01:42:53.159 --> 01:42:56.079 stepped down to twelve. Then I got down over time 1927 01:42:56.159 --> 01:42:59.439 to three. It was. It was. It was a step 1928 01:42:59.479 --> 01:43:01.319 down process as it took months, but like that was 1929 01:43:01.359 --> 01:43:02.199 the point. 1930 01:43:02.560 --> 01:43:05.880 Yeah, And the the original vape juice that they were using, 1931 01:43:05.960 --> 01:43:09.199 I believe that they they separate them by one's sugar 1932 01:43:09.199 --> 01:43:11.039 and one salt. That's the way I've always heard it. 1933 01:43:11.800 --> 01:43:15.039 But the sugar ones, which were the initial ones, it 1934 01:43:15.319 --> 01:43:17.560 just it wasn't doing the job for me. Whenever they 1935 01:43:17.560 --> 01:43:21.760 came out with the the nicotine salt, they said, this 1936 01:43:21.880 --> 01:43:23.800 is that this is actually the stuff that you know. 1937 01:43:23.880 --> 01:43:26.399 It's the same kind of nicotine that's in cigarettes, and 1938 01:43:26.479 --> 01:43:29.640 so it's a lot easier to make that transition into 1939 01:43:30.000 --> 01:43:33.000 this more familiar nicotine style that you're used to. And 1940 01:43:33.079 --> 01:43:35.880 so whenever that came out, I made the full switch over. 1941 01:43:35.880 --> 01:43:39.079 It hit hard enough, dude, It got the itch for. 1942 01:43:39.000 --> 01:43:44.960 Sure it did. It did, so let's see. Professor Linda 1943 01:43:45.239 --> 01:43:50.880 bald bowled anyway of Cancer Research is a UK expert 1944 01:43:50.960 --> 01:43:54.880 in cancer prevention. An expert in cancer prevention in the 1945 01:43:55.000 --> 01:43:59.079 UK said, fears that e cigarettes have made smoking seem 1946 01:43:59.159 --> 01:44:02.279 normal again, or even led to people taking up tobacco 1947 01:44:02.359 --> 01:44:05.479 smoking are not so far being realized based on the 1948 01:44:05.520 --> 01:44:09.239 evidence assessed by this important independent review. In fact, the 1949 01:44:09.319 --> 01:44:12.960 overall evidence points to e cigarettes actually helping people to 1950 01:44:13.079 --> 01:44:17.479 give up smoking. Tobacco free stop smoking services remain the 1951 01:44:17.520 --> 01:44:20.479 most effective way for people to quit, but we recognize 1952 01:44:20.520 --> 01:44:23.600 the potential benefits for e cigarettes in helping large numbers 1953 01:44:23.640 --> 01:44:27.000 of people move away from tobacco. Cancer Research UK is 1954 01:44:27.000 --> 01:44:29.880 funding more research to deal with the unanswered questions around 1955 01:44:29.880 --> 01:44:34.520 these products, including the longer term impact so cancer experts said, 1956 01:44:34.920 --> 01:44:35.680 I agree. 1957 01:44:35.960 --> 01:44:36.199 Yeah. 1958 01:44:37.000 --> 01:44:40.439 Another one which would be Lisa Serdy's, which is the 1959 01:44:40.479 --> 01:44:44.600 acting director at Fresh Smoke Free Northeast, the first region 1960 01:44:45.279 --> 01:44:48.760 where all local stop smoking services are actively promoted as 1961 01:44:48.800 --> 01:44:53.279 e cigarette friendly. She said, despite making great strides to 1962 01:44:53.319 --> 01:44:56.640 reduce smoking, tobacco is still our biggest killer. Our region 1963 01:44:56.680 --> 01:45:00.439 has always kept an open mind towards using electronic cigs. 1964 01:45:00.560 --> 01:45:03.640 As we can see the massive potential health benefits from 1965 01:45:03.680 --> 01:45:09.560 switching all of our local national hints National Health. Wait, NHS, 1966 01:45:09.560 --> 01:45:11.960 that's not National Health. I was thinking of something else. 1967 01:45:12.239 --> 01:45:15.800 So all of our local NHS stop smoking services now 1968 01:45:15.920 --> 01:45:19.680 proactively welcome anyone who wants to use these devices at 1969 01:45:19.760 --> 01:45:23.680 their attempt to quit and increase their chances of success. 1970 01:45:24.359 --> 01:45:29.239 I agree, it's undeniable. It really is so, and we 1971 01:45:29.279 --> 01:45:31.039 can go on and on with a lot of these, 1972 01:45:31.079 --> 01:45:33.640 but just to show you that, like, it's it's not 1973 01:45:34.159 --> 01:45:37.319 that crazy. So before, right, before we follow the money, 1974 01:45:37.319 --> 01:45:39.199 I want to get to let me see what else 1975 01:45:39.239 --> 01:45:43.399 I got here? All right, So, oh, this is an 1976 01:45:43.399 --> 01:45:45.920 interesting article right here. This is actually by pub MED, 1977 01:45:47.119 --> 01:45:50.399 the National Institute of Health Government, and it's this is 1978 01:45:50.399 --> 01:45:51.319 a government article. 1979 01:45:51.319 --> 01:45:52.640 Bro okay, okay. 1980 01:45:52.720 --> 01:45:56.920 And it says big Tobacco's dirty tricks seven key tactics 1981 01:45:56.960 --> 01:46:02.119 of the tobacco industry. The fucking government is coming after 1982 01:46:02.159 --> 01:46:03.920 their own money. How hilarious is that? 1983 01:46:06.239 --> 01:46:09.359 So it says, sorry, I was trying to find something 1984 01:46:09.479 --> 01:46:11.600 I had myself muted, but yeah, one hundred percent, this 1985 01:46:11.640 --> 01:46:12.560 is fucking ridiculous. 1986 01:46:12.720 --> 01:46:15.359 So it says the tobacco industry has been influencing public 1987 01:46:15.359 --> 01:46:19.319 opinion and disrupting health policy through sophisticated and deceptive methods. 1988 01:46:19.319 --> 01:46:23.520 For decades. As evidence has mounted supporting the undisputed deadly 1989 01:46:23.560 --> 01:46:27.680 effects of tobacco products, corporations have found ways to remain profitable. 1990 01:46:27.800 --> 01:46:30.760 They have succeeded in attracting enough new smokers to support 1991 01:46:30.760 --> 01:46:34.119 industry growth, despite the fact that over eight million tobacco 1992 01:46:34.199 --> 01:46:37.079 related deaths occur annually. 1993 01:46:37.319 --> 01:46:40.079 Eight million of eight million. 1994 01:46:41.239 --> 01:46:45.159 The sphere of influence of multi billion dollar tobacco companies 1995 01:46:45.199 --> 01:46:49.439 extends to the fields of scientific research, politics, law, sport, education, 1996 01:46:49.600 --> 01:46:52.600 and the media. Members of the Tobacco Control Working Group 1997 01:46:52.800 --> 01:46:56.119 of the World Federation of Public Health Associations reviewed the 1998 01:46:56.199 --> 01:46:59.039 literature and conducted research into key tactics used by the 1999 01:46:59.039 --> 01:47:02.920 tobacco industry, producing written reports on seven of these. Number 2000 01:47:02.920 --> 01:47:08.159 one tobacco advertising, promotion and sponsorship, number two, front groups, 2001 01:47:08.239 --> 01:47:12.399 number three, manipulating the media, number four, funding scientific research, 2002 01:47:12.640 --> 01:47:17.680 number five, political lobbying, number six, electric electronic alternatives as 2003 01:47:17.760 --> 01:47:22.159 harm reduction, and number seven legal challenges. So each tactic, 2004 01:47:22.319 --> 01:47:25.680 including examples of their occurrence and recommendations on how to 2005 01:47:25.720 --> 01:47:29.760 recognize and counteract them, are comprehensively explored in the casebook 2006 01:47:29.920 --> 01:47:33.199 Big Tobacco's Dirty Tricks, which can be accessed at the 2007 01:47:33.279 --> 01:47:37.399 link approved or the link provided. This article summarizes the 2008 01:47:37.439 --> 01:47:42.239 seven tactics discussed in the casebook. So we know of 2009 01:47:42.319 --> 01:47:45.279 all their tactics already, and that was just to name 2010 01:47:45.319 --> 01:47:45.840 a few of them. 2011 01:47:46.640 --> 01:47:47.640 It's mind blowing. 2012 01:47:48.159 --> 01:47:52.880 So obviously through tobacco advertising, promotion, and sponsorship, that's called propaganda, 2013 01:47:54.119 --> 01:47:56.199 front groups. I mean, all of it's really propaganda if 2014 01:47:56.199 --> 01:47:58.319 you think about it. So you have front groups manipulating 2015 01:47:58.359 --> 01:48:02.640 the media, funding scientific grip research, political lobbying, electronic alternatives 2016 01:48:02.640 --> 01:48:06.920 as harm reduction. This is an interesting one right here. 2017 01:48:07.000 --> 01:48:11.680 Electronic alternatives as harm reduction. This is uh, this would 2018 01:48:11.680 --> 01:48:14.880 be the tobacco companies coming out and saying that you 2019 01:48:14.920 --> 01:48:18.319 should be smoking jewel or views or something like that 2020 01:48:18.399 --> 01:48:24.079 as a harm reduction. Meanwhile, it's actually not true that 2021 01:48:24.079 --> 01:48:26.119 that's just their way to get you to come back 2022 01:48:26.119 --> 01:48:27.159 to smoking cigarettes. 2023 01:48:27.520 --> 01:48:27.840 Yep. 2024 01:48:28.239 --> 01:48:30.720 So just to throw that out there a little bit. 2025 01:48:32.079 --> 01:48:35.199 There are this is Oh, this is an interesting one. 2026 01:48:35.279 --> 01:48:39.039 So this is by j Bartlett dot org. It says 2027 01:48:39.359 --> 01:48:41.840 bans and this is a I believe he's a lawyer, 2028 01:48:42.560 --> 01:48:46.920 Center for Public Policy Okay, bans and high taxes fuel 2029 01:48:46.960 --> 01:48:51.199 black markets for tobacco and bait products. So all right, 2030 01:48:51.279 --> 01:48:54.520 this was an article written it was whenever Biden was 2031 01:48:54.520 --> 01:48:57.600 still in office. But it says as the Biden administration 2032 01:48:57.640 --> 01:49:00.399 gets closer to finalizing its proposed rule banning sale of 2033 01:49:00.439 --> 01:49:04.600 mental cigarettes and flavored cigars nationwide, a well known aphorism 2034 01:49:04.680 --> 01:49:07.119 comes to mind. The road to hell is paved with 2035 01:49:07.199 --> 01:49:10.680 good intentions. The administration's logic behind the federal ban is 2036 01:49:10.720 --> 01:49:14.479 that doing so will reduce smoking and correspondingly improve public health. 2037 01:49:14.760 --> 01:49:17.760 This is the same logic used to justify increasing tobacco 2038 01:49:17.880 --> 01:49:21.119 taxes or banning tobacco and vaping products at the state level. 2039 01:49:21.439 --> 01:49:25.920 When a state bans flavored tobacco or increases taxes on cigarettes, 2040 01:49:26.199 --> 01:49:28.800 legal cigarette sales in the state tend to fall as 2041 01:49:28.800 --> 01:49:32.279 a result, But what about illegal and out of state sales. 2042 01:49:32.680 --> 01:49:35.840 So high cigarette taxes and bands on flavor tobacco products 2043 01:49:35.880 --> 01:49:39.079 create black and gray markets, through which smugglers become the 2044 01:49:39.119 --> 01:49:43.600 new supplier of these products. So the MACINAC Center for 2045 01:49:43.800 --> 01:49:47.199 Public Policy tracks cigarette smuggling in the United States. So 2046 01:49:47.319 --> 01:49:51.439 this is in twenty twenty one. So it says in 2047 01:49:51.439 --> 01:49:55.640 twenty twenty one, a report showed how cigarette smuggling increases 2048 01:49:55.680 --> 01:49:59.000 as tax rates on tobacco products increase. So essentially to 2049 01:49:59.039 --> 01:50:01.600 say that every single time that the governments of the 2050 01:50:01.600 --> 01:50:07.119 states raise taxes on tobacco products that's vaping included, every 2051 01:50:07.159 --> 01:50:09.600 single time that they raise their taxes, you are only 2052 01:50:09.640 --> 01:50:13.000 pushing people to get them via black market. That's what 2053 01:50:13.039 --> 01:50:15.800 you're doing. And this is this is the literal literature 2054 01:50:15.840 --> 01:50:16.680 that is proving that. 2055 01:50:17.439 --> 01:50:21.159 Man, it's almost like we've got that figured out from 2056 01:50:21.319 --> 01:50:25.319 other things that have been banned in price height for years. 2057 01:50:25.920 --> 01:50:29.279 Like you know, if the price of alcohol went astronomical, 2058 01:50:29.319 --> 01:50:31.920 I bet more people would start homebrewing their own liquor 2059 01:50:32.039 --> 01:50:35.199 and wine and beer like that's been done before. 2060 01:50:35.640 --> 01:50:38.359 All right, yeah, well and check this out because I 2061 01:50:38.359 --> 01:50:41.520 don't know if people know to the extent that the 2062 01:50:41.880 --> 01:50:47.920 tax rates are with tobacco, well, cigarettes mainly. Yeah, So 2063 01:50:48.039 --> 01:50:51.560 New York, for example, which taxes cigarettes at four dollars 2064 01:50:51.560 --> 01:50:54.920 and thirty five cents a pack. That is just the 2065 01:50:55.039 --> 01:50:58.520 tax that no, that's not the state tax. That is 2066 01:50:58.560 --> 01:51:01.720 the tobacco tax on top of the state tax, on 2067 01:51:01.800 --> 01:51:03.319 top of the cigarettes that you're buying. 2068 01:51:04.960 --> 01:51:07.520 So you're basically buying for the pack of cigarettes for 2069 01:51:07.600 --> 01:51:09.920 the price of double the price. 2070 01:51:10.000 --> 01:51:12.760 Yet like wow, yeah, unreal. It says that it saw 2071 01:51:12.840 --> 01:51:16.239 the highest rate of inbound smuggling. So since they it, 2072 01:51:16.439 --> 01:51:20.239 since they made the tax price up to four dollars 2073 01:51:20.279 --> 01:51:25.079 and thirty five cents per pack, the smuggling increased almost 2074 01:51:25.159 --> 01:51:26.119 fifty five percent. 2075 01:51:27.880 --> 01:51:28.399 I believe it. 2076 01:51:28.960 --> 01:51:32.399 I do the total number of smuggled packs. Listen to this. 2077 01:51:32.520 --> 01:51:35.800 The total number of smuggled packs, more than two hundred 2078 01:51:35.840 --> 01:51:39.720 and fifty four million, was second in the country, behind 2079 01:51:39.720 --> 01:51:43.560 California's more than four hundred and sixty five million smuggled packs. 2080 01:51:43.880 --> 01:51:47.840 California also had the second highest inbound smuggling rate, which 2081 01:51:47.880 --> 01:51:50.359 was forty four point h two percent, and a tax 2082 01:51:50.439 --> 01:51:52.840 rate of two dollars and eighty seven cents per pack. 2083 01:51:53.399 --> 01:51:57.239 So of two of the two of the states that 2084 01:51:57.279 --> 01:52:02.840 are implementing the highest cigarette tax are are are seeing 2085 01:52:02.920 --> 01:52:05.640 that there is two hundred and fifty four million and 2086 01:52:05.760 --> 01:52:09.479 four hundred and sixty five million black market cigarettes that 2087 01:52:09.520 --> 01:52:13.880 are being bought and sold packs not cigarettes, right, packs 2088 01:52:13.880 --> 01:52:14.399 of cigarettes? 2089 01:52:14.479 --> 01:52:17.960 Yeah? Yeah, yeah, shit. At this point we might say cartons. 2090 01:52:18.079 --> 01:52:21.520 I don't know, well, yeah, because and you think about it, 2091 01:52:21.560 --> 01:52:27.520 I mean, I don't know. I know that over in Arizona. 2092 01:52:27.600 --> 01:52:29.479 I know that you can go to the reservation. Cigarettes 2093 01:52:29.479 --> 01:52:32.880 are way cheaper, oh for sure, right, I mean, hey, cheaper. 2094 01:52:32.920 --> 01:52:34.840 And I don't know what the what the tax rate 2095 01:52:34.920 --> 01:52:37.279 is over there, but I imagine that it doesn't apply 2096 01:52:37.399 --> 01:52:39.399 since their cigarettes are way cheaper over there. 2097 01:52:39.640 --> 01:52:39.760 Bro. 2098 01:52:39.840 --> 01:52:41.159 That's why I used to go to the PX to 2099 01:52:41.159 --> 01:52:43.640 buy my cigarettes because it was tax free there when 2100 01:52:43.640 --> 01:52:45.560 I was in the military. You go to the exchange 2101 01:52:45.760 --> 01:52:47.520 and you're buying it like I do. At one point, 2102 01:52:47.560 --> 01:52:49.319 I was buying a carton of Marlborough Reds for like 2103 01:52:49.319 --> 01:52:53.239 fifty five bucks. Yeah, these days that would get you 2104 01:52:54.359 --> 01:52:55.239 five packs. 2105 01:52:55.760 --> 01:52:58.880 Oh dude, you go to uh like for example, and 2106 01:52:58.920 --> 01:53:01.960 I don't smoke anymore, but I thought about it, not 2107 01:53:02.039 --> 01:53:04.039 that I thought about it, but like I thought about, like, 2108 01:53:04.119 --> 01:53:06.840 holy shit, this would be a genius thing to do. 2109 01:53:07.159 --> 01:53:10.199 So I've, uh, I've been on two cruises in my life, 2110 01:53:10.199 --> 01:53:12.319 and so we usually go down to you know, parts 2111 01:53:12.359 --> 01:53:14.840 of Mexico and stuff like that. Right, you go down 2112 01:53:14.880 --> 01:53:17.359 there and at the ports, literally as soon as you 2113 01:53:17.479 --> 01:53:21.279 walk off the boat, you go into these port shop centers, right, 2114 01:53:21.960 --> 01:53:25.000 and they all have Dude, it's nothing but walls of 2115 01:53:25.039 --> 01:53:28.119 cartons of cigarettes for super cheap, and you bring like, 2116 01:53:28.399 --> 01:53:30.479 I think you can buy like two or three cartons 2117 01:53:30.520 --> 01:53:32.119 and bring them back, but you can't bring any more 2118 01:53:32.119 --> 01:53:34.960 than that. But even still, I think the cartons over 2119 01:53:35.000 --> 01:53:39.800 there were like forty fifty bucks for Marlborough's, yep. Whereas 2120 01:53:39.920 --> 01:53:41.600 now you get a carton. Dude, you know what, you 2121 01:53:41.640 --> 01:53:44.079 want to know how much a carton of fucking Marlboro's 2122 01:53:44.159 --> 01:53:45.199 cost in Louisiana. 2123 01:53:45.800 --> 01:53:50.039 I haven't looked a hundred ten bucks now? God damn? 2124 01:53:50.399 --> 01:53:54.119 Yeah yeah, unreal, bro, Yeah, I mean you're talking about 2125 01:53:54.159 --> 01:53:56.439 like literally eleven bucks a pack at that point. 2126 01:53:56.520 --> 01:53:58.600 And that's the cheapest way to buy them is buy the. 2127 01:53:58.560 --> 01:54:03.159 Carton, right, Yeah, good night, I know, I know. So, 2128 01:54:03.199 --> 01:54:05.920 it says when taxes get high enough to encourage large 2129 01:54:05.920 --> 01:54:08.840 scale smuggling, tax revenue falls as people stop buying from 2130 01:54:08.920 --> 01:54:11.199 legal vendors and start buying on the street, as some 2131 01:54:11.359 --> 01:54:14.319 vendors switch to out of state suppliers and simply don't 2132 01:54:14.359 --> 01:54:17.439 report or pay taxes on those purchases. As a result 2133 01:54:17.439 --> 01:54:20.359 of their high taxes, California and New York saw the 2134 01:54:20.439 --> 01:54:24.039 two largest revenue losses more than one point three billion 2135 01:54:24.079 --> 01:54:29.520 and one point one billion, respectively per year. Okay, Like 2136 01:54:30.039 --> 01:54:31.760 you want to talk about the money that they are 2137 01:54:31.800 --> 01:54:34.800 losing as a result of this. I mean, it's not 2138 01:54:35.000 --> 01:54:38.960 even just the vaping shit it is, it's the fucking 2139 01:54:39.079 --> 01:54:41.439 taxes that are really killing them. 2140 01:54:41.640 --> 01:54:44.239 Yeah, and that's what I was saying earlier. Right, the 2141 01:54:44.279 --> 01:54:47.039 lobbyists have already struck their deal with their political figures. 2142 01:54:47.439 --> 01:54:50.880 They have to get their cut or the lobbyists will 2143 01:54:50.920 --> 01:54:52.880 go back on what they said they would do for 2144 01:54:52.920 --> 01:54:56.800 Big Tobacco. So you gotta pay the piper. So if 2145 01:54:56.800 --> 01:54:59.119 we can't pay the piper out of our own back pocket, 2146 01:54:59.560 --> 01:55:02.039 let's make the politicians pass a new tax law to 2147 01:55:02.079 --> 01:55:03.800 where that's how they'll get their cut. 2148 01:55:04.119 --> 01:55:08.239 Well, and what we read earlier, the Big Tobacco essentially 2149 01:55:08.319 --> 01:55:13.119 made a future's bid with each individual state to where 2150 01:55:13.119 --> 01:55:15.239 they said, look over the next five years, we're gonna 2151 01:55:15.279 --> 01:55:18.039 we're gonna make sure that over one hundred million or 2152 01:55:18.079 --> 01:55:21.560 whatever dollars is going into your pocket. Well, now they 2153 01:55:21.600 --> 01:55:25.920 can't necessarily fulfill that. And the reason, if you think 2154 01:55:25.920 --> 01:55:28.600 about it's actually really fucked up on both ends because 2155 01:55:29.000 --> 01:55:32.600 you would probably have tobacco companies that are going to 2156 01:55:33.079 --> 01:55:37.079 the going to the fucking state or whatever and saying, look, 2157 01:55:37.279 --> 01:55:39.479 we want to keep our cigarette prices the same. We 2158 01:55:39.520 --> 01:55:42.319 need our money to keep on coming in. If you want, 2159 01:55:42.399 --> 01:55:44.640 you can hack up or you can hike up all 2160 01:55:44.920 --> 01:55:48.800 of the tobacco tax rates as high as you want, 2161 01:55:48.880 --> 01:55:52.159 as we keep our products, you know, at the same price, 2162 01:55:52.239 --> 01:55:53.720 or maybe you know, it allows us to go a 2163 01:55:53.720 --> 01:55:57.479 little bit higher. Right, So everybody's being paid. But whenever 2164 01:55:57.520 --> 01:56:01.640 you raise them up so high to where the states 2165 01:56:01.640 --> 01:56:04.439 like New York, whenever you're you're charging damn near four 2166 01:56:04.479 --> 01:56:08.439 dollars and thirty five cents per pack, I mean that's 2167 01:56:08.479 --> 01:56:11.279 a business in and of itself. Just the tax that 2168 01:56:11.319 --> 01:56:14.279 they are making off of the cigarettes and alone. 2169 01:56:14.960 --> 01:56:18.079 It's fucking mind blowing, dude. So it all comes down 2170 01:56:18.119 --> 01:56:22.640 to the almighty dollar. That's all that it really does. Jesus. 2171 01:56:22.880 --> 01:56:24.800 So, with a tax rate of three dollars and fifty 2172 01:56:24.840 --> 01:56:28.079 one cents per pack, Massachusetts had the fourth highest inbound 2173 01:56:28.079 --> 01:56:33.239 smuggling rate. See it perfectly correlates higher taxes higher smuggling. 2174 01:56:33.479 --> 01:56:35.680 It makes sense. It doesn't take a fucking rocket scientist 2175 01:56:35.680 --> 01:56:36.479 to figure that one out. 2176 01:56:36.800 --> 01:56:37.119 Yep. 2177 01:56:38.039 --> 01:56:40.479 It said they had the fourth fourth highest smuggling rate 2178 01:56:40.479 --> 01:56:43.159 at thirty seven point fifty nine percent and the ninth 2179 01:56:43.239 --> 01:56:47.000 highest number of smuggle packs more than sixty three million, 2180 01:56:47.239 --> 01:56:50.079 resulting in the sixth largest revenue loss, which was nearly 2181 01:56:50.119 --> 01:56:52.720 two hundred and twenty four million dollars in twenty twenty 2182 01:56:52.760 --> 01:56:57.840 one alone. Oh, they're missing out big time. So either 2183 01:56:58.039 --> 01:57:01.479 they need to reduce the fuck tax grade on all 2184 01:57:01.600 --> 01:57:05.000 of these cigarette products, or they just need to allow 2185 01:57:05.119 --> 01:57:08.600 people to vape. At this point, I mean, you're you're 2186 01:57:08.680 --> 01:57:13.920 losing an entire economic branch that you're bringing money in. 2187 01:57:15.479 --> 01:57:17.920 Dude, And that's the thing. They're not gonna just let 2188 01:57:17.920 --> 01:57:21.079 it go. There's no way they could do that, not 2189 01:57:21.159 --> 01:57:23.720 at this point, not as heavily as they've thrown their 2190 01:57:23.720 --> 01:57:25.079 weight in on this one. 2191 01:57:26.079 --> 01:57:30.000 So yeah, there's there's something that is in the works. Now, 2192 01:57:30.399 --> 01:57:32.640 what are we August? What's the date today? 2193 01:57:33.319 --> 01:57:35.720 The thirteen day is August thirteenth, all. 2194 01:57:35.680 --> 01:57:37.680 Right, So this was actually an article there was written 2195 01:57:37.680 --> 01:57:41.439 two days ago, and this says that the USPS or 2196 01:57:41.479 --> 01:57:44.960 the US Postal Service block shipping of illicit vapes in 2197 01:57:45.000 --> 01:57:49.840 big boost for big tobacco. So you got the Post 2198 01:57:49.840 --> 01:57:52.520 Office saying we're gonna be looking out for those vapes. 2199 01:57:52.600 --> 01:57:54.239 Don't you fucking mail those things? 2200 01:57:54.520 --> 01:57:57.000 Well? Shit, that was my next course of action was 2201 01:57:57.079 --> 01:57:58.840 just go to the website and order something to be 2202 01:57:58.880 --> 01:57:59.800 delivered to my door. 2203 01:58:00.199 --> 01:58:02.640 That's what everybody thought. Everybody was thinking about, Oh, if 2204 01:58:02.680 --> 01:58:05.039 I can't buy him here, I'll just get the mail 2205 01:58:05.119 --> 01:58:08.560 to me. Well no, because big Tobacco has said, we 2206 01:58:08.720 --> 01:58:11.960 know your tactics. You know we weren't born yesterday. We're 2207 01:58:12.000 --> 01:58:15.239 going to try and figure that all out right now, jesus. So, 2208 01:58:15.279 --> 01:58:18.039 it says the US Postal Services cracked down on distributor 2209 01:58:18.439 --> 01:58:23.520 on distributors of unregulated vapes using its services for business shipments. 2210 01:58:23.680 --> 01:58:26.880 Letters reviewed by Rutter's show in a blow to a 2211 01:58:27.000 --> 01:58:30.399 multi billion dollar industry that has dented big tobacco sales. 2212 01:58:30.680 --> 01:58:36.159 The letters, previously unreported, show that USPS wrote to major 2213 01:58:36.239 --> 01:58:40.159 New York based distributor Demand Vape, blocking it from using 2214 01:58:40.159 --> 01:58:44.199 its services after New York City's Law Department, which represents 2215 01:58:44.199 --> 01:58:47.439 the city's government and officials in legal matters, provided evidence 2216 01:58:47.479 --> 01:58:53.439 that its shipments broke laws. Okay, so bootlegging essentially, But 2217 01:58:53.520 --> 01:58:58.239 it says USPS's the Post Office action stands to benefit 2218 01:58:58.319 --> 01:59:03.600 tobacco giants, including Altria and British British American Tobacco, which 2219 01:59:03.640 --> 01:59:07.399 have for years battled against unregulated vapes, mostly from China. 2220 01:59:07.680 --> 01:59:11.359 Unregulated vapes lack the authorization from the US Food and 2221 01:59:11.439 --> 01:59:14.000 Drug Administration that is required for them to be legally 2222 01:59:14.000 --> 01:59:16.640 sold in the United States, the world's largest market for 2223 01:59:16.680 --> 01:59:21.560 smoking alternatives. The USPS revoked Demand Vapes mailing exemption last 2224 01:59:21.560 --> 01:59:24.279 month after it received evidence that the company ship vapes 2225 01:59:24.359 --> 01:59:28.439 lacking FDA FDA authorization and that and that it violated 2226 01:59:28.479 --> 01:59:31.960 a local flavor ban. A letter from USPS to the 2227 01:59:32.000 --> 01:59:35.319 company day to July fifteenth showed, so they're trying to 2228 01:59:35.319 --> 01:59:39.000 find every single possible loophole that they can to say, well, 2229 01:59:39.199 --> 01:59:43.439 that's we can't have that right because of policy. And 2230 01:59:43.520 --> 01:59:47.159 so the policy is not there to save anybody. It's 2231 01:59:47.199 --> 01:59:50.000 not there to you know, protect anybody's health. It's there 2232 01:59:50.079 --> 01:59:53.479 to make sure that the companies that are already following 2233 01:59:53.520 --> 01:59:57.520 policy don't don't lose and they don't miss out. Yeah, 2234 01:59:57.560 --> 02:00:01.079 that's the thing. So well, yeah, it says that there 2235 02:00:01.079 --> 02:00:05.800 are limited exceptions. It says so far the US Food 2236 02:00:05.840 --> 02:00:10.439 and Drug Administration has authorized only thirty nine E cigarette products. 2237 02:00:10.520 --> 02:00:13.359 I kind of want to see what those are. What 2238 02:00:13.359 --> 02:00:15.640 are the oh fucking jewel Okay. 2239 02:00:15.479 --> 02:00:18.520 Of course number one would be jewel. I'm sure the 2240 02:00:18.520 --> 02:00:18.960 next one is. 2241 02:00:18.920 --> 02:00:22.560 Going to be a views probably something. Oh doesn't even 2242 02:00:22.560 --> 02:00:28.640 say all of them. Let's see you do? Yeah, I 2243 02:00:28.640 --> 02:00:34.279 mean it's mainly yeah, okay, including altrias and joy menthol 2244 02:00:34.399 --> 02:00:36.600 vate products. Have you ever tried those? Those things fucking suck. 2245 02:00:37.359 --> 02:00:39.680 Never do menthols. They fuck up my throat too bad. 2246 02:00:39.960 --> 02:00:42.520 So all of the VP products that are sold next 2247 02:00:42.600 --> 02:00:46.359 to the cigarettes and gas stations, those ones, those are 2248 02:00:46.399 --> 02:00:50.079 the ones that are essentially like, uh, the soul gotten 2249 02:00:50.119 --> 02:00:55.760 the companies. Yes, yeah, so that's not a shocker. So well, 2250 02:00:55.840 --> 02:00:59.680 it says. The limited exceptions include domestic shipments between businesses 2251 02:00:59.680 --> 02:01:02.720 which need a mailing exception, and their shipments must comply 2252 02:01:02.840 --> 02:01:07.520 with relevant laws. Some of the other large carriers, including FedEx, 2253 02:01:07.560 --> 02:01:12.079 refuse to ship vapes. DHL only offers carriage for business 2254 02:01:12.079 --> 02:01:15.520 shipments with prior approval. So the USPS provided New York 2255 02:01:15.520 --> 02:01:18.079 City's Law Department with a list of other vape firms 2256 02:01:18.079 --> 02:01:22.119 that it has granted mailing exceptions so that it can 2257 02:01:22.199 --> 02:01:25.560 access whether they should be challenged in line with legal requirements. 2258 02:01:26.680 --> 02:01:31.279 Huh, this cold might smell a loophole here, because my 2259 02:01:31.479 --> 02:01:35.680 business is based out of my home. Could my company 2260 02:01:35.800 --> 02:01:40.000 buy vapes for for strictly research purposes? Of course? Of course, 2261 02:01:40.720 --> 02:01:45.239 is that a thing? It might be? Okay, Well, we 2262 02:01:45.359 --> 02:01:47.600 will discuss this later on, as this. 2263 02:01:47.560 --> 02:01:50.439 Could further limit the number of carriers available to the 2264 02:01:50.520 --> 02:01:55.000 unauthorized vape industry. Other options, such as using smaller carriers 2265 02:01:55.119 --> 02:01:59.199 or handling freight directly, tend to be more costly. So 2266 02:01:59.479 --> 02:02:02.560 the FDA registered vape shipments from China in twenty twenty four. 2267 02:02:02.600 --> 02:02:04.920 In twenty twenty five, it says the impact of tariffs 2268 02:02:04.920 --> 02:02:07.760 and high caizuars have pushed twenty twenty five shipments well 2269 02:02:07.800 --> 02:02:11.279 below level seen in a year earlier. So you'll see 2270 02:02:11.359 --> 02:02:17.520 right here that Yeah, so it started out, It started 2271 02:02:17.560 --> 02:02:21.119 out in twenty twenty five. Was the only month that 2272 02:02:22.159 --> 02:02:27.000 January you mean, yeah, January I met. Twenty January of 2273 02:02:27.079 --> 02:02:30.039 twenty twenty five was the only month which exceeded the 2274 02:02:30.119 --> 02:02:34.199 shipments from China from last year. Every other one is 2275 02:02:34.319 --> 02:02:38.399 significantly lower than last year. So you're seeing the big 2276 02:02:38.439 --> 02:02:43.199 push to get the Chinese products out of America. 2277 02:02:43.760 --> 02:02:46.239 Yeah, I gotta tell you that kind of checks out. 2278 02:02:46.640 --> 02:02:50.640 It was around March when the vape shop that I 2279 02:02:50.680 --> 02:02:54.800 go to that was selling vapes like it's a tobacco shop. 2280 02:02:54.920 --> 02:02:57.399 Let me, let me be clear about this, but they 2281 02:02:57.399 --> 02:02:59.960 were selling vapes under the table because duh, these are 2282 02:03:00.239 --> 02:03:02.479 from Yemen. They'll be giving a fuck about American laws, 2283 02:03:02.520 --> 02:03:05.199 but you're gonna do deport them back home. Oh no. So, 2284 02:03:05.319 --> 02:03:07.880 like they were selling them under the table March, they 2285 02:03:07.920 --> 02:03:11.560 got rated hard, and I'm talking. They had to open 2286 02:03:11.640 --> 02:03:14.239 every single drawer, even their own personal backpacks that they 2287 02:03:14.239 --> 02:03:18.000 brought into work that day and they have not carried 2288 02:03:18.039 --> 02:03:22.119 them since. Now they are carrying these these hookah vapes, 2289 02:03:23.079 --> 02:03:26.520 right but now, I mean it's still a vapable flavored 2290 02:03:26.600 --> 02:03:31.319 nicotine product one hundred percent. But I'm just curious who 2291 02:03:31.439 --> 02:03:34.359 owns hookah it. You know what, I'm gonna google that 2292 02:03:34.439 --> 02:03:38.920 because this got the blessing somehow, but this did not. 2293 02:03:39.880 --> 02:03:42.560 It's the same product. They're both blue raspberry flavor, for 2294 02:03:42.600 --> 02:03:45.399 fuck's sake. Yeah, but all right, I'm gonna look that up. 2295 02:03:45.520 --> 02:03:45.920 Keep going. 2296 02:03:46.079 --> 02:03:48.399 Oh that's funny. I'm smucking on a blue raspberry vapor 2297 02:03:48.479 --> 02:03:49.119 right now as well. 2298 02:03:49.479 --> 02:03:51.680 Actually, I lie, this one's Baja Blast but usually I'm 2299 02:03:51.720 --> 02:03:52.840 smoking on blue Raspberry. 2300 02:03:52.840 --> 02:03:54.359 This one Baha Blast flavor. 2301 02:03:54.640 --> 02:03:57.239 This one's blue raspberry. Yeah, this is Baja Blast flavor. 2302 02:03:57.239 --> 02:03:59.920 It's not perfect, but it's close. It's close to Baja Blast. 2303 02:04:00.479 --> 02:04:06.640 Okay. So now this was as of March thirty first 2304 02:04:06.680 --> 02:04:09.239 of this year. It says this is an article by 2305 02:04:09.279 --> 02:04:13.000 Reuters that says big tobacco targets Trump in hope and 2306 02:04:13.079 --> 02:04:18.319 fear of change. So let's go. So big tobacco companies 2307 02:04:18.359 --> 02:04:22.279 like British America Tobacco are lobbying US President Donald Trump's 2308 02:04:22.279 --> 02:04:26.239 administration to crack down on illegal vapes, including via import 2309 02:04:26.279 --> 02:04:31.319 bands on Chinese devices. Document show and industry consultants said. 2310 02:04:31.960 --> 02:04:37.600 Tobacco groups, including BAT and Altria have complained that while 2311 02:04:37.640 --> 02:04:39.920 waiting years for their own vapes or other products to 2312 02:04:39.920 --> 02:04:42.560 get permission for sale in the United States, some vape 2313 02:04:42.600 --> 02:04:45.640 makers have taken substantial market share even though authorities say 2314 02:04:45.680 --> 02:04:48.880 that they're illegal to sell. Despite efforts to stem the 2315 02:04:49.000 --> 02:04:53.079 flow of unauthorized vapes, they they currently dominate the market. 2316 02:04:53.359 --> 02:04:57.680 BAT estimated last year that unauthorized disposable vapes account for 2317 02:04:57.720 --> 02:05:01.880 around seventy percent of almost ten billion pounds or thirteen 2318 02:05:01.920 --> 02:05:06.720 billion dollars worth of US vapes sales annually. Tobacco companies 2319 02:05:06.760 --> 02:05:09.199 say that this this has hit their own vape and 2320 02:05:09.199 --> 02:05:13.720 cigarette sales. You know shit. US authorities have said that 2321 02:05:13.760 --> 02:05:17.600 these unauthorized vapes, including products made by Chinese firms, are 2322 02:05:17.640 --> 02:05:20.920 illegal to import into the United States or sell there. 2323 02:05:21.239 --> 02:05:25.079 BAT and Aultria have expressed optimism that Trump's government will 2324 02:05:25.079 --> 02:05:29.279 address these issues. It's looking so look that's the case. 2325 02:05:29.640 --> 02:05:34.159 So Bat's US subsidiary, which is Reynolds American, wrote to 2326 02:05:34.199 --> 02:05:37.079 the Office of the United States Trade Representative on March 2327 02:05:37.079 --> 02:05:39.680 eleventh to call for the government to ban imports on 2328 02:05:39.760 --> 02:05:43.159 all disposable vapes from China and consider additional tariffs on 2329 02:05:43.199 --> 02:05:46.840 any other Chinese made e cigarettes and smoking alternatives. The 2330 02:05:47.119 --> 02:05:51.159 Chinese companies unfair and illegal trading practices harm Reynolds and 2331 02:05:51.279 --> 02:05:54.800 other law abiding US companies. Reynolds wrote in a letter, 2332 02:05:55.720 --> 02:05:59.760 God don't okay, it hurts our fucking dollar. Meanwhile, You're 2333 02:05:59.760 --> 02:06:04.520 products are killing eighty million people yearly, right exactly, That's 2334 02:06:04.560 --> 02:06:07.520 what we care about. We care about We care about 2335 02:06:07.560 --> 02:06:11.399 your dollar. So. Asked about the letter, a Renold spokesperson 2336 02:06:11.560 --> 02:06:15.239 said only products that follow FDA policies and procedures should 2337 02:06:15.239 --> 02:06:18.720 remain on the market. The stakes are high for tobacco companies. 2338 02:06:18.880 --> 02:06:22.000 Changes that deliver more robust enforcement of the rules governing 2339 02:06:22.079 --> 02:06:24.640 vapes and other smoking alternatives could help them protect their 2340 02:06:24.640 --> 02:06:28.680 market share in US nicotine consumption even as tobacco used falls, 2341 02:06:28.880 --> 02:06:32.319 But any shift that removed or lowered legal and regulatory 2342 02:06:32.359 --> 02:06:36.479 obstacles for currently unauthorized vapes could accelerate further growth. Big 2343 02:06:36.479 --> 02:06:39.840 tobacco and vape companies want the FDA's authorization process to 2344 02:06:39.840 --> 02:06:43.680 be faster and clearer, but not necessarily more wholesale change. 2345 02:06:43.760 --> 02:06:47.880 To industry consultants said, by the way, they want the 2346 02:06:47.960 --> 02:06:51.319 FDA to work faster and cleaner and clearer, rather but 2347 02:06:51.399 --> 02:06:55.640 not necessarily a more wholesale change. AKA that is saying 2348 02:06:55.960 --> 02:06:59.000 that we want, we want things to be regulated, but 2349 02:06:59.079 --> 02:07:02.399 we only want all our products to qualify for that. 2350 02:07:02.760 --> 02:07:06.760 If there's ever any kind of challenge out there, such 2351 02:07:06.800 --> 02:07:10.159 as Chinese vapes, I'm sorry, you know what, we should 2352 02:07:10.199 --> 02:07:13.640 just fucking tariff them. And because it's China and no. 2353 02:07:14.760 --> 02:07:18.880 Speaking of this hookhal It company is a Chinese company, 2354 02:07:19.840 --> 02:07:21.840 so I don't know how the fuck they got approval 2355 02:07:21.880 --> 02:07:25.359 to be sold openly. And these other vapes have to 2356 02:07:25.359 --> 02:07:28.039 be sold under the table. Makes no fucking sense. 2357 02:07:28.439 --> 02:07:33.640 Well, it says uh. White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt 2358 02:07:33.840 --> 02:07:36.640 said that President Trump makes decisions in the best interests 2359 02:07:36.640 --> 02:07:40.680 of the American public. Sure, okay, so it says no 2360 02:07:40.800 --> 02:07:44.079 secret tobacco companies as well as vape makers are battling 2361 02:07:44.119 --> 02:07:47.039 to get the ear of the relevant US leaders or 2362 02:07:47.079 --> 02:07:49.399 officials to make the case for changes that they support. 2363 02:07:49.600 --> 02:07:52.560 A total of three industry consultants said they asked not 2364 02:07:52.600 --> 02:07:56.319 to be identified in order to speak freely. It says 2365 02:07:56.520 --> 02:07:58.520 it's no secret that everyone with a steak in this 2366 02:07:58.600 --> 02:08:01.039 issue is trying to get asset access to the White House, 2367 02:08:01.119 --> 02:08:03.840 said one of the consultants who works for a tobacco company. 2368 02:08:04.159 --> 02:08:09.199 Reynolds donated. Listen to this. Reynolds, the tobacco company donated 2369 02:08:09.319 --> 02:08:12.840 ten million dollars to the Trump aligned super pack Make 2370 02:08:12.880 --> 02:08:17.560 America Great Again, Inc. Federal Electoral Commission filing show. 2371 02:08:18.439 --> 02:08:21.439 So they donated ten million dollars to his war chest. 2372 02:08:21.600 --> 02:08:25.720 The cigarette company donated. And so it's funny now that 2373 02:08:26.520 --> 02:08:29.119 now that Trump is president, we're starting to see vapes 2374 02:08:29.159 --> 02:08:34.039 fall away and and and vapes being promoted as harmful 2375 02:08:34.159 --> 02:08:38.119 and you can't trust them and all that shit because 2376 02:08:38.439 --> 02:08:42.039 Trump is being he's having his fucking pockets padded by 2377 02:08:42.199 --> 02:08:44.600 big Tobacco ten million dollars so much. 2378 02:08:45.000 --> 02:08:47.640 Which here's the other side of that coin, right, two 2379 02:08:47.720 --> 02:08:49.000 wings of the same shitbird. 2380 02:08:49.520 --> 02:08:49.640 Uh. 2381 02:08:50.560 --> 02:08:55.279 I would guess that they also donated ten million dollars 2382 02:08:55.319 --> 02:08:59.399 to the Kamala Harris campaign as well. Because this is 2383 02:08:59.399 --> 02:09:01.560 how you win the game, bro, This is how you 2384 02:09:01.600 --> 02:09:03.560 make sure that no matter which side wins the war, 2385 02:09:03.600 --> 02:09:06.079 you still come out on top. You just fund both sides. 2386 02:09:06.840 --> 02:09:10.039 We're gonna get to that by open Secrets, which is 2387 02:09:10.079 --> 02:09:13.840 one of the best websites ever created where like it 2388 02:09:13.840 --> 02:09:16.600 it's literally it follows the money. We've we used that 2389 02:09:16.680 --> 02:09:20.079 website several times where you can see exactly what super packs, 2390 02:09:20.319 --> 02:09:24.039 what politicians, what money is going into their pocket uh, 2391 02:09:24.079 --> 02:09:28.199 into their pockets from which organizations. It's yeah, it's beautiful 2392 02:09:28.199 --> 02:09:30.079 because they're public filings, but they just put it in 2393 02:09:30.119 --> 02:09:33.279 a real easy to see kind of format. 2394 02:09:33.159 --> 02:09:35.880 Because they have to claim that either they have to 2395 02:09:35.880 --> 02:09:39.199 claim it as personal taxes or their uh you know, 2396 02:09:39.359 --> 02:09:42.800 financial or excuse me, their political party affiliates or whatever. 2397 02:09:43.239 --> 02:09:46.560 They have to claim all of that. I work with 2398 02:09:46.640 --> 02:09:51.239 a nonprofit to a very high degree. Dude, our annual report, 2399 02:09:51.760 --> 02:09:55.399 we have to have everything specificaloustic to the penny amount 2400 02:09:55.479 --> 02:09:58.840 of what was spent and on what for what purpose, 2401 02:09:59.119 --> 02:10:01.800 which other non it was it donated to, what was 2402 02:10:01.800 --> 02:10:04.439 the check number? All like, everything has to be laid out. 2403 02:10:04.840 --> 02:10:06.000 It's the same in politics. 2404 02:10:06.800 --> 02:10:11.359 Uh yeah, big time. So yeah, it's It goes on 2405 02:10:11.479 --> 02:10:13.880 to say that bat which is one of the big 2406 02:10:13.960 --> 02:10:17.680 cigarette companies, uh, said that it engages with lawmakers across 2407 02:10:17.680 --> 02:10:21.319 the political spectrum and advocates for policies that helped transition 2408 02:10:21.399 --> 02:10:25.760 smokers to alternatives, regardless of who is in the White House. Okay, sure, 2409 02:10:25.760 --> 02:10:27.119 you get right right. 2410 02:10:27.279 --> 02:10:27.359 So. 2411 02:10:27.560 --> 02:10:31.399 Brian Ballard, president of Ballard Partners, a lobbying firm employed 2412 02:10:31.399 --> 02:10:35.560 by Reynolds since twenty seventeen. Reynolds Cigarettes, according to official 2413 02:10:35.600 --> 02:10:39.640 lobbyist filings, chaired the Florida Finance Committee for Trump during 2414 02:10:39.680 --> 02:10:44.279 his twenty sixteen campaign. His firm also previously employed Susie Wiles, 2415 02:10:44.439 --> 02:10:48.560 Trump's current White House Chief of Staff, and US Attorney 2416 02:10:48.600 --> 02:10:53.680 General Pam Bondi. Lobbyist filings show, So it's just Trump, 2417 02:10:53.880 --> 02:10:58.960 it's everybody within the cabinet. Yeah, yeah, So the Department 2418 02:10:58.960 --> 02:11:02.079 of Justice did not respect on to questions on Bondi's 2419 02:11:02.079 --> 02:11:05.680 link to Ballad Partner or Ballad Partners. Ballard Partners declined 2420 02:11:05.760 --> 02:11:10.520 to comment. Oh, of course, so Wiles has not had 2421 02:11:10.560 --> 02:11:13.479 any contact with Ballard Partners or BATS since January, a 2422 02:11:13.560 --> 02:11:16.239 senior White House official told Reuters. 2423 02:11:16.680 --> 02:11:16.800 So. 2424 02:11:18.439 --> 02:11:21.119 The FDA has been criticized by companies and some lawmakers 2425 02:11:21.159 --> 02:11:23.880 for slow product authorizations and for failing to address the 2426 02:11:23.920 --> 02:11:27.760 widespread trade and unauthorized products. The agency said that it 2427 02:11:27.840 --> 02:11:31.760 needs more resources to tackle these challenges. Tobacco industry executives 2428 02:11:31.800 --> 02:11:34.439 are concerned that the FDA Center for Tobacco Products could 2429 02:11:34.439 --> 02:11:37.840 be gutted or asked if the administration concludes that it 2430 02:11:37.880 --> 02:11:41.520 has failed. The consultant working for a tobacco company said, 2431 02:11:43.640 --> 02:11:45.039 oh my god. 2432 02:11:45.760 --> 02:11:48.680 They're like, well, we don't want it to go through FDA. 2433 02:11:48.760 --> 02:11:51.720 Don't look at us the tobacco look at the vaping shit, 2434 02:11:51.840 --> 02:11:54.000 because if we have to go through all that and 2435 02:11:54.079 --> 02:11:56.039 jump through all those soups and we fail, that's not 2436 02:11:56.079 --> 02:11:57.000 gonna be a good look. 2437 02:11:57.439 --> 02:12:00.079 I mean, they did that back in the day. You 2438 02:12:00.119 --> 02:12:02.439 have to do it again. Y'all already did an audit 2439 02:12:02.479 --> 02:12:05.079 on us in the fifties and sixties. We are we 2440 02:12:05.119 --> 02:12:09.399 still talking about this is what really? Come on now, bro, 2441 02:12:09.800 --> 02:12:11.159 you already know what we got. 2442 02:12:11.399 --> 02:12:15.119 Meanwhile, more harmful chemicals and products are being pumped into cigarettes, 2443 02:12:15.159 --> 02:12:17.720 way more than probably their first audit. I can guarantee 2444 02:12:17.760 --> 02:12:18.199 you that. 2445 02:12:18.399 --> 02:12:22.680 Oh, one hundred percent, dude. The pesticide game alone has 2446 02:12:22.760 --> 02:12:26.359 changed drastically from the sixties to now for our own 2447 02:12:26.479 --> 02:12:29.000 food and produce, let alone tobacco. 2448 02:12:30.000 --> 02:12:33.000 So the FDA has so far authorized only thirty four 2449 02:12:33.039 --> 02:12:37.279 tobacco and menthol flavored vape products for sale. Of course, 2450 02:12:37.640 --> 02:12:41.479 all okay by big tobacco. So the FDA rejected most 2451 02:12:41.560 --> 02:12:45.880 nicotine product applications out of millions of applications. The FDA 2452 02:12:46.000 --> 02:12:49.880 has authorized thirty four tobacco or menthol flavored vape products 2453 02:12:49.880 --> 02:12:53.760 for sale, all made by big tobacco companies, All made 2454 02:12:53.800 --> 02:12:55.079 by big tobacco companies. 2455 02:12:55.439 --> 02:12:57.560 Oh, I believe that one hundred percent. That, Like I said, 2456 02:12:57.560 --> 02:13:00.199 they've already got the ties. They've already got the the 2457 02:13:00.359 --> 02:13:02.680 person's name who they need to call over in DC 2458 02:13:02.840 --> 02:13:05.000 to get things pushed through. That's a homeboy. There they 2459 02:13:05.000 --> 02:13:05.520 go golfing. 2460 02:13:06.000 --> 02:13:08.439 Look at this there are This is the list of 2461 02:13:08.479 --> 02:13:11.760 the ones that have been submitted, refused to accept, accepted, 2462 02:13:11.880 --> 02:13:16.039 refused to file, filed, application denied, and then application granted. 2463 02:13:16.399 --> 02:13:21.640 So in which year was this? Twenty from twenty nineteen 2464 02:13:21.680 --> 02:13:24.600 to twenty twenty four. So in that five year span, 2465 02:13:25.000 --> 02:13:29.439 twenty six point six million applications submitted to the FDA, 2466 02:13:30.720 --> 02:13:33.520 and it says over ninety nine percent of all applications 2467 02:13:33.560 --> 02:13:37.399 were for e cigarette products, including seventeen million applications for 2468 02:13:37.479 --> 02:13:42.920 e liquid submitted by one company alone. Okayeen million by 2469 02:13:42.960 --> 02:13:45.920 one company. That's crazy, but it was a Chinese company 2470 02:13:46.199 --> 02:13:51.199 probably now a nineteen point six million refused to accept it. 2471 02:13:51.680 --> 02:13:54.359 I don't know what it means by refuse to accept, 2472 02:13:55.800 --> 02:13:57.920 but anyway, it goes all the way down to where 2473 02:13:57.960 --> 02:14:02.119 it says of the grant applications, of the two point 2474 02:14:02.199 --> 02:14:06.960 six point six or twenty six point six million applications submitted, 2475 02:14:07.239 --> 02:14:11.159 only thirty four relate to e cigarette products. All thirty 2476 02:14:11.199 --> 02:14:13.479 four are made by big tobacco companies. 2477 02:14:14.159 --> 02:14:19.119 Twenty six point six million applications were submitted in five years, 2478 02:14:19.760 --> 02:14:24.079 and only thirty four of those applications were approved. 2479 02:14:23.800 --> 02:14:27.800 Were granted, and all of them are by big tobacco. Shoo, 2480 02:14:28.079 --> 02:14:30.880 my god, you want to talk about a fucking monopoly. 2481 02:14:30.479 --> 02:14:32.800 Bro, There's no other way to say it. 2482 02:14:34.359 --> 02:14:37.199 Reynolds said that there was a quote unquote urgent need 2483 02:14:37.239 --> 02:14:39.640 to revisit how new products come to market, but it 2484 02:14:39.680 --> 02:14:43.399 embraces FDA action to review and authorize them. Altria pointed 2485 02:14:43.399 --> 02:14:48.079 to pointed rooters to remarks by CEO William Gifford, who 2486 02:14:48.079 --> 02:14:52.319 told investors in February that Altria wants quicker product authorizations 2487 02:14:52.479 --> 02:14:55.840 and proper enforcement against illicit products. The head of the 2488 02:14:55.880 --> 02:15:00.800 Vapor Technology Association, Tony Abound or Abude, however, said that 2489 02:15:00.840 --> 02:15:03.319 the current system creates a steep barrier for entry and 2490 02:15:03.359 --> 02:15:07.960 had essentially out outlawed flavored vapes that can help smokers quit. 2491 02:15:08.359 --> 02:15:11.960 A significant change of approach was needed, he told Reuters. 2492 02:15:12.039 --> 02:15:15.800 The association says that it represents industry leading manufacturers of 2493 02:15:15.880 --> 02:15:20.439 vapor devices, E liquids and flavorings, distributors and suppliers, as 2494 02:15:20.439 --> 02:15:23.800 well as retailers. Abud met with Trump in twenty twenty 2495 02:15:23.800 --> 02:15:27.079 four and afterwards. In September of twenty twenty four, Trump 2496 02:15:27.079 --> 02:15:31.239 posted on truth social pledging to in quotes save vaping 2497 02:15:32.439 --> 02:15:38.039 and here we are he Trump wants. He posted on 2498 02:15:38.079 --> 02:15:43.039 truth social to save vaping. Meanwhile, yeah is meanwhile he 2499 02:15:43.199 --> 02:15:44.760 is being funded by big tobacco. 2500 02:15:45.319 --> 02:15:47.439 Yeah, funny how that works out right. These are those 2501 02:15:47.479 --> 02:15:50.079 campaign promises that never come through to fruition, just like 2502 02:15:50.159 --> 02:15:52.600 Killery's going to be in jail, right, that's totally the 2503 02:15:52.640 --> 02:15:55.279 thing we're going to see, and then like eh, yeah, 2504 02:15:55.359 --> 02:16:00.119 no ah. 2505 02:15:58.159 --> 02:16:02.119 Okay, so now we come to follow the money. This 2506 02:16:02.239 --> 02:16:04.760 is a website that everybody should get familiar with if 2507 02:16:04.760 --> 02:16:07.600 you are interested in following the money down all of 2508 02:16:08.079 --> 02:16:13.000 the political rabbit holes. So this is OpenSecrets dot org. 2509 02:16:13.399 --> 02:16:17.159 I mean, it is just doing God's work over here, bro, 2510 02:16:17.720 --> 02:16:21.000 I think so. So this is the Tobacco Summary. It 2511 02:16:21.039 --> 02:16:24.319 says that it's showing this is data from twenty twenty 2512 02:16:24.359 --> 02:16:28.199 four because obviously twenty twenty five is not concluded yet. 2513 02:16:29.119 --> 02:16:33.040 It says to the tobacco industry, once a lobbying juggernaut 2514 02:16:33.079 --> 02:16:36.159 has watched his political influence wane as its cancer causing 2515 02:16:36.200 --> 02:16:41.600 products became increasingly toxic politically speaking, contributions to federal candidates 2516 02:16:41.639 --> 02:16:46.120 and political committees from the tobacco industry, which include makers 2517 02:16:46.159 --> 02:16:50.360 of cigarettes, electronic cigarettes, cigars, and smokeless tobacco as well 2518 02:16:50.399 --> 02:16:54.280 as their trade groups dropped precipitously after two thousand and two, 2519 02:16:54.319 --> 02:16:58.840 but began trending upward again in twenty sixteen. So here 2520 02:16:58.879 --> 02:17:03.159 are the uh right, here we have the top contributors. 2521 02:17:03.559 --> 02:17:05.920 So this is a dude, wait till you see this shit, 2522 02:17:06.159 --> 02:17:09.680 all right, So you can see that the contributor. This 2523 02:17:09.760 --> 02:17:13.479 is two political parties. Okay, this is everywhere. This is 2524 02:17:13.520 --> 02:17:15.680 not like all their ad campaigns or anything like that. 2525 02:17:15.719 --> 02:17:19.280 This is just two political parties and sometimes even political 2526 02:17:19.399 --> 02:17:26.079 people in general. So the the biggest lobbying tobacco company 2527 02:17:26.399 --> 02:17:30.840 as far as politics goes, would be British American Tobacco JACOB. 2528 02:17:30.879 --> 02:17:33.079 While while I'm saying that, can you look up which 2529 02:17:33.120 --> 02:17:36.200 cigarette companies are British American tobacco? 2530 02:17:37.200 --> 02:17:40.040 All right, So I'm gonna look it up. But there 2531 02:17:40.120 --> 02:17:43.920 may not be a cigarette the Kadbiatrir gas station that's 2532 02:17:43.959 --> 02:17:47.000 made by them. This might It's kind of like saying 2533 02:17:47.000 --> 02:17:51.360 the oil lobbying group, like which oil company is? It's 2534 02:17:51.479 --> 02:17:53.760 it's all of them, right, So when you get lobbying groups, 2535 02:17:53.760 --> 02:17:56.120 there's a bunch of different companies that will feed into 2536 02:17:56.200 --> 02:17:59.280 the lobbyists. But I will look up British American tobacco, 2537 02:17:59.399 --> 02:18:00.879 and let's see we can find. 2538 02:18:00.680 --> 02:18:03.319 Yeah, because I know Altria is one of them, and 2539 02:18:03.319 --> 02:18:08.079 that's Philip Morris. So fritch American tobacco, I would imagine 2540 02:18:08.319 --> 02:18:12.360 is what maybe it's pools or fucking camels or something 2541 02:18:12.399 --> 02:18:13.760 I don't know, all. 2542 02:18:13.719 --> 02:18:18.319 Right, made by British American tobacco. Yeah. 2543 02:18:18.360 --> 02:18:21.239 So while we're looking at that, the total number of 2544 02:18:21.360 --> 02:18:26.040 dollars that were spent on political uh people running was 2545 02:18:26.360 --> 02:18:27.040 in twenty. 2546 02:18:26.879 --> 02:18:30.079 Okay, I got you, wow wow. 2547 02:18:30.319 --> 02:18:30.399 Ye. 2548 02:18:31.399 --> 02:18:33.120 There's some of these you probably haven't heard of, and 2549 02:18:33.159 --> 02:18:35.799 some of them you absolutely have heard of. Okay, And 2550 02:18:35.840 --> 02:18:38.680 I've got a couple of these here. British American Tobacco 2551 02:18:38.840 --> 02:18:41.760 or BAT, produces a wide range of cigarette brands, including 2552 02:18:41.799 --> 02:18:45.799 global brands like Dunhill, Kent, Lucky Strike, Paul Mall, and 2553 02:18:46.000 --> 02:18:50.239 Rothman's in the US market, BAT also owns and markets 2554 02:18:50.319 --> 02:18:55.159 brands like Newport Camel and Natural American Spirit through its 2555 02:18:55.159 --> 02:18:58.079 subsidiary Renolds American Inc. 2556 02:18:58.399 --> 02:18:59.520 Okay, there we go. 2557 02:18:59.639 --> 02:19:05.840 Other international and local brands include Vogue, Visceroy Cool, and 2558 02:19:05.959 --> 02:19:07.559 Peter Stuyvesant. 2559 02:19:08.920 --> 02:19:11.559 Okay, so that's a lot of heavy hitters, especially Camel 2560 02:19:11.600 --> 02:19:12.559 in there, dude, that's a. 2561 02:19:12.639 --> 02:19:17.399 Camil Cool, Newport Paul mal Lucky Strike, American Spirit. 2562 02:19:17.920 --> 02:19:21.280 Come on now, dude, yep, so Brittet, that company or 2563 02:19:21.319 --> 02:19:26.360 that organization that has all of those cigarette makers has 2564 02:19:26.559 --> 02:19:29.440 donated just in twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four 2565 02:19:29.920 --> 02:19:35.159 thirteen million dollars thirteen thirteen million, eighteen thousand and forty 2566 02:19:35.200 --> 02:19:39.719 one dollars. The listen to where it's going though, so 2567 02:19:39.799 --> 02:19:44.520 that they donated to the Democrats. Of that thirteen million, 2568 02:19:45.200 --> 02:19:49.040 sixty two thousand of it went to Democrats, one hundred 2569 02:19:49.079 --> 02:19:51.719 and seventy eight almost one hundred and seventy nine thousand 2570 02:19:51.799 --> 02:19:53.479 has gone to Republicans. 2571 02:19:54.200 --> 02:19:56.200 They probably did that because they knew which way the 2572 02:19:56.280 --> 02:19:58.440 tides were going to shift, so they threw their money 2573 02:19:58.440 --> 02:20:00.520 in with the crowd they figured was going to. That 2574 02:20:00.600 --> 02:20:01.319 makes sense to me. 2575 02:20:01.360 --> 02:20:03.079 Sure, But that's only one hundred and seventy eight or 2576 02:20:03.079 --> 02:20:05.159 one hundred and seventy nine thousand of the thirteen million, 2577 02:20:06.239 --> 02:20:11.319 twelve point seven seven five million went to conservative groups 2578 02:20:11.360 --> 02:20:14.600 in general, so that's where they were really targeting. They 2579 02:20:14.879 --> 02:20:17.840 the big tobacco. Yeah, they gave a little bit to 2580 02:20:17.879 --> 02:20:22.680 the Democrats, but none to liberal groups, none to nonpartisan groups. 2581 02:20:22.840 --> 02:20:26.399 The majority of their money went to conservative groups, which 2582 02:20:26.440 --> 02:20:29.920 makes sense. We got a Republican in office, vaping's getting repealed, 2583 02:20:30.159 --> 02:20:33.159 smoking getting seemingly going to get. 2584 02:20:33.040 --> 02:20:35.159 Some kind of an increase as a result. Absolutely. 2585 02:20:35.959 --> 02:20:40.000 Next one, you have RAI Services. You don't have to 2586 02:20:40.000 --> 02:20:43.040 look up all these but this is just some of them. 2587 02:20:43.079 --> 02:20:47.959 So RAI Services they donated ten million dollars. Of the 2588 02:20:48.040 --> 02:20:51.680 ten million, only sixty five dollars went to Democrats. 2589 02:20:51.600 --> 02:20:54.479 Whoa sixty five hole doll hairs. 2590 02:20:54.239 --> 02:20:57.079 Dude, Yeah, So it was ten million, two hundred and 2591 02:20:57.120 --> 02:21:00.600 twenty thousand and sixty five dollars total. Sixty five dollars 2592 02:21:00.680 --> 02:21:03.600 total went to the Democrats. Million, two hundred and twenty 2593 02:21:03.760 --> 02:21:05.639 thousand went to conservative groups. 2594 02:21:06.200 --> 02:21:07.840 So, by the way, our AI is. 2595 02:21:07.799 --> 02:21:11.239 Reynolds Oh so, all right, makes sense. 2596 02:21:11.360 --> 02:21:15.440 Reynolds American Industries. And by the way, they're a subsidiary 2597 02:21:15.719 --> 02:21:17.879 of the British American group that we just talked about. 2598 02:21:18.120 --> 02:21:20.360 So it's the same fucking wallet with a different name 2599 02:21:20.360 --> 02:21:21.079 on the checkbook. 2600 02:21:21.440 --> 02:21:24.360 It's basically black Rock at that point. 2601 02:21:24.639 --> 02:21:27.239 The black Rock Vanguard, and uh, what was the other 2602 02:21:27.280 --> 02:21:30.680 one that owns everything Street State Street. It's that it's 2603 02:21:30.719 --> 02:21:33.680 that conversation, but yeah, matter of fact, go down the list. 2604 02:21:33.719 --> 02:21:35.799 I'm gonna look up what's each one of these, Like 2605 02:21:35.799 --> 02:21:38.360 what cigarettes are made by these subsidiaries? I like this, 2606 02:21:38.639 --> 02:21:39.000 all right. 2607 02:21:39.040 --> 02:21:42.360 The next one is Altria. So they have Altria Client 2608 02:21:42.399 --> 02:21:47.360 Services and Altria Group, and they're two different sectors, but 2609 02:21:47.399 --> 02:21:52.920 they're both donating a lot of money. So Altria Client Services, 2610 02:21:52.959 --> 02:21:56.239 which is a branch of it, donated five point seven 2611 02:21:56.680 --> 02:22:01.319 million dollars and twenty seven hundred of it went to Democrats, 2612 02:22:01.399 --> 02:22:05.159 thirty four thousand went to Republicans, but an astounding five 2613 02:22:05.239 --> 02:22:10.600 point seven million of it went to conservative groups. Okay, Now, 2614 02:22:11.239 --> 02:22:14.479 big topacco was absolutely in the Republicans pockets. 2615 02:22:14.600 --> 02:22:17.120 As of this current political timeframe. 2616 02:22:17.399 --> 02:22:20.760 Absolutely sore because that's who's in that's who's in control 2617 02:22:20.840 --> 02:22:21.239 right now. 2618 02:22:21.639 --> 02:22:25.360 Exactly. So Ultra owns Philip Morris, the maker of Marlborough, 2619 02:22:25.440 --> 02:22:28.159 and John Middleton, the maker of what you might know 2620 02:22:28.239 --> 02:22:33.159 as Black and Mild. Their smoke free portfolio includes companies 2621 02:22:33.200 --> 02:22:34.879 like Copenhagen and Skull. 2622 02:22:35.280 --> 02:22:40.319 Oh yeah wow, all right. Next on the list you 2623 02:22:40.319 --> 02:22:43.440 would have, and that's just the client services. The Aultria 2624 02:22:43.520 --> 02:22:47.000 Group donated four point six million, four hundred and eighty 2625 02:22:47.040 --> 02:22:51.280 four thousand dollars to Democrats. However, one point seven million 2626 02:22:51.319 --> 02:22:55.079 to Republicans and two point four million to conservative groups. 2627 02:22:55.719 --> 02:22:59.479 Also donated five hundred thousand to nonpartisan groups. 2628 02:22:59.399 --> 02:23:02.000 So they've made sure that everybody around the board was eaten, 2629 02:23:02.079 --> 02:23:04.200 but specifically the conservatives. 2630 02:23:04.559 --> 02:23:07.879 Yes, yes, uh, fifteen hundred deliberal groups because. 2631 02:23:07.760 --> 02:23:09.600 Fuck them right exactly. 2632 02:23:10.520 --> 02:23:10.719 Uh. 2633 02:23:10.760 --> 02:23:13.040 Then you got Breeze smoke. That's the next one. 2634 02:23:13.120 --> 02:23:18.040 Breeze smoke LLC breeze like a wind, breeze b r 2635 02:23:18.239 --> 02:23:21.360 ee ze. Breeze smoke got you. 2636 02:23:22.360 --> 02:23:25.920 They donated one million, a little over one million dollars. 2637 02:23:26.040 --> 02:23:29.840 Sixty eight hundred of it went to Democrats one million. 2638 02:23:30.440 --> 02:23:30.559 Uh. 2639 02:23:30.879 --> 02:23:34.000 The rest of the money went to the Republicans. So 2640 02:23:34.120 --> 02:23:37.479 sixty eight hundred went to Democrats. The rest of the 2641 02:23:37.600 --> 02:23:41.000 one point or the one million, fifty and sixty four 2642 02:23:41.040 --> 02:23:42.559 dollars went to Republicans. 2643 02:23:43.959 --> 02:23:48.319 Okay, So Breeze does not manufacture traditional cigarettes. They are 2644 02:23:48.399 --> 02:23:53.440 known for disposable electronic nicotine delivery systems, also known as 2645 02:23:53.639 --> 02:23:57.600 vape products and e cigarettes. Breeze Smoke was previously a 2646 02:23:57.639 --> 02:24:01.360 Michigan based company, but seized US distri in late twenty 2647 02:24:01.440 --> 02:24:05.719 twenty four due to FDA actions and shifted sales overseas. Wow. 2648 02:24:06.360 --> 02:24:10.120 So Breeze Smoke was a vape company that last year 2649 02:24:10.200 --> 02:24:13.920 donated to all these political figures. Next year probably not 2650 02:24:14.000 --> 02:24:15.840 so much unless they're trying to get back in the 2651 02:24:15.840 --> 02:24:19.639 good graces and everything. But yeah, let me see Bree's 2652 02:24:19.680 --> 02:24:21.760 disposable vapes. I'm trying to see if there's some of 2653 02:24:21.799 --> 02:24:24.239 these that that we might recognize. 2654 02:24:24.799 --> 02:24:25.440 Many of them. 2655 02:24:26.600 --> 02:24:28.520 Yeah, I'll be honest with you. I'm looking at their 2656 02:24:28.600 --> 02:24:32.520 product line here. There's nothing that it looks just like 2657 02:24:32.600 --> 02:24:35.920 your typical vape that you would ever buy from a 2658 02:24:35.959 --> 02:24:36.520 vape shop. 2659 02:24:36.559 --> 02:24:40.639 Ever, however, not a name brand you'd recognize. 2660 02:24:40.920 --> 02:24:44.239 It looks very similar to every other vape and no, 2661 02:24:44.360 --> 02:24:46.719 I don't think I've ever actually seen that name brand 2662 02:24:46.760 --> 02:24:47.280 in stores. 2663 02:24:47.920 --> 02:24:54.000 So Bree's got got nuts leapt they're out, yeah, buddy. However, 2664 02:24:54.120 --> 02:24:56.639 next on the list is Jewel Labs, which no need 2665 02:24:56.680 --> 02:25:00.680 to up. Jewel Labs. They donate did four hundred and 2666 02:25:00.719 --> 02:25:03.639 fifty six thousand dollars. Two hundred and twenty six thousand 2667 02:25:03.680 --> 02:25:06.559 of those dollars went to Democrats, twenty five thousand went 2668 02:25:06.559 --> 02:25:10.440 to Republicans, thirteen hundred went to liberal groups, and two 2669 02:25:10.520 --> 02:25:15.520 hundred thousand went to conservative groups. So still, well, that 2670 02:25:15.559 --> 02:25:19.319 one's actually pretty equal. So they put two hundred and 2671 02:25:19.319 --> 02:25:24.000 twenty six thousand to Democrats, two hundred thousand to conservative groups, 2672 02:25:24.040 --> 02:25:27.559 and a couple extra pennies to Republicans and liberal groups. 2673 02:25:27.479 --> 02:25:30.079 So I think it's worth mentioning here. Jewel Labs was 2674 02:25:30.120 --> 02:25:33.559 co founded by these two gentlemen as part of pax 2675 02:25:33.799 --> 02:25:37.079 Labs and started selling the jewel devices in twenty fifteen. 2676 02:25:37.600 --> 02:25:42.079 In twenty seventeen, Jewel Labs was spun off from pax Labs, 2677 02:25:42.479 --> 02:25:46.479 after which Altria acquired at a thirty five percent stake 2678 02:25:46.559 --> 02:25:49.840 in the company for twelve point eight billion dollars on 2679 02:25:49.920 --> 02:25:54.000 December twentieth of twenty eighteen. So, yes, they weren't originally 2680 02:25:54.040 --> 02:25:56.639 owned by Philip Morris and all that, but they are 2681 02:25:56.799 --> 02:25:58.719 well in Altrio, but they are now. 2682 02:25:58.799 --> 02:26:01.360 They got bought out, yeah, and that's that's because of 2683 02:26:01.920 --> 02:26:04.120 all of the things that they were being sued for 2684 02:26:04.239 --> 02:26:07.200 by Big Tobacco, and so they had they I would 2685 02:26:07.239 --> 02:26:09.959 imagine they probably just had no choice but to sell. 2686 02:26:10.280 --> 02:26:12.360 They I mean, but still they bought in at a 2687 02:26:12.440 --> 02:26:15.479 thirty five percent steak in the company for twelve point 2688 02:26:15.559 --> 02:26:18.959 eight billion, So you understand that means that this company 2689 02:26:19.040 --> 02:26:21.920 was valued way higher than that, but they fucking hit 2690 02:26:21.959 --> 02:26:24.840 them with so many lawsuits that it was cheaper for 2691 02:26:24.920 --> 02:26:27.799 them to just sell majority steak in their company than 2692 02:26:27.799 --> 02:26:29.719 it would have been to fight the good fight in 2693 02:26:29.760 --> 02:26:32.600 the court system. Because you're dealing with big tobacco that's 2694 02:26:32.639 --> 02:26:34.360 got the deepest of deep. 2695 02:26:34.120 --> 02:26:37.200 Pockets inful trade and tear down from within. 2696 02:26:37.639 --> 02:26:41.239 Yep, seems like copard espionage, dude, That's essentially all it is. 2697 02:26:41.680 --> 02:26:46.280 How about Swish or sweets Swisher no national They donated 2698 02:26:46.280 --> 02:26:49.319 three hundred and seven thousand dollars. Sixty seven thousand went 2699 02:26:49.360 --> 02:26:53.200 to Democrats, two hundred and thirty seven thousand went to Republicans, 2700 02:26:53.360 --> 02:26:56.239 a thousand went to liberal groups, and zero to the 2701 02:26:56.319 --> 02:27:01.920 conservative groups. Vector group which I'm not unaware of that one, 2702 02:27:02.040 --> 02:27:04.959 but Vector Group they put up a one hundred damn 2703 02:27:04.959 --> 02:27:07.520 near one hundred and eighty thousand dollars. One hundred and 2704 02:27:07.520 --> 02:27:11.159 twelve dollars of the one hundred and eighty went to Democrats. Meanwhile, 2705 02:27:11.360 --> 02:27:14.600 seventy nine thousand dollars went to Republicans and one hundred 2706 02:27:14.600 --> 02:27:17.719 thousand dollars went to conservative groups. So you can see 2707 02:27:17.799 --> 02:27:21.280 right here by this list alone, and this isn't even 2708 02:27:21.319 --> 02:27:24.120 all of them, because after that you got Philip Morris 2709 02:27:24.120 --> 02:27:30.239 International PMI Global Services. What's the next? Oh, and then 2710 02:27:30.280 --> 02:27:34.959 you got Swedish match North on Excalibur Imperol. 2711 02:27:35.040 --> 02:27:37.360 And I'm just saying that, Like, twisch Er Sweet just 2712 02:27:37.399 --> 02:27:40.520 made me think about something. Dude, They're coming after flavored 2713 02:27:40.520 --> 02:27:45.680 tobacco products. We're over here thinking about flavored cigarettes, big dog. 2714 02:27:46.559 --> 02:27:49.760 They're thinking they're gonna start coming. I'm just curious now 2715 02:27:49.840 --> 02:27:53.120 if what they're saying on paper is that flavored tobacco 2716 02:27:53.280 --> 02:27:56.440 products or being marketed for children, does that mean that 2717 02:27:56.440 --> 02:27:58.440 I won't be able to get my wine flavored wood 2718 02:27:58.440 --> 02:27:59.840 tip black and mile whenever I get. 2719 02:27:59.719 --> 02:28:03.360 The cra I mean, how about the fucking white grape 2720 02:28:03.360 --> 02:28:06.319 white owls. That's like that's a go to for anybody 2721 02:28:06.399 --> 02:28:08.959 rolling a blunt great backwoods? 2722 02:28:09.239 --> 02:28:11.799 Like, are we saying that all of that is about 2723 02:28:11.799 --> 02:28:14.159 to go by the wayside as a result. 2724 02:28:14.360 --> 02:28:19.559 Or but the children think about the children, or like 2725 02:28:19.639 --> 02:28:24.399 flavored shit or somehow these products are gonna see no 2726 02:28:24.440 --> 02:28:27.360 real issue, right, So there was another thing I just 2727 02:28:27.360 --> 02:28:30.120 found and said, is swiss or Sweet about to be discontinued? 2728 02:28:30.600 --> 02:28:32.639 No, they just made it to where they can't sell 2729 02:28:32.680 --> 02:28:37.520 their products out of vending machines in certain locations anymore. Wow, 2730 02:28:38.159 --> 02:28:41.159 that that's what they're doing to compensate and say, see, 2731 02:28:41.280 --> 02:28:44.120 we're being affected by it too. Big tobacco is getting 2732 02:28:44.200 --> 02:28:47.879 hit just as hard as big vape in these legal precedents. 2733 02:28:48.680 --> 02:28:55.200 The fuck uh false so falls next one we have 2734 02:28:55.319 --> 02:28:58.879 these are check this list out. This is annual lobbying 2735 02:28:58.920 --> 02:29:03.639 totals ninety eight. Uh, there were. That was the most 2736 02:29:03.680 --> 02:29:07.440 amount of money that was ever lobbied in politics via 2737 02:29:07.479 --> 02:29:11.479 Big tobacco, which is crazy. They lobbied seventy three million 2738 02:29:11.559 --> 02:29:16.799 dollars in ninety eight, and then the farther down you go, Uh, 2739 02:29:16.840 --> 02:29:18.799 the farther down you go. You got twenty three million 2740 02:29:18.840 --> 02:29:22.280 in ninety nine, twenty million in two thousand and so on, 2741 02:29:22.600 --> 02:29:24.559 and it's it has its ebbs and flows, but it 2742 02:29:24.600 --> 02:29:26.959 never once even came close to half of the money 2743 02:29:26.959 --> 02:29:29.440 that was lobbied for in ninety eight, which is pretty 2744 02:29:29.479 --> 02:29:32.120 interesting because that was the Clinton years. 2745 02:29:32.639 --> 02:29:35.760 It is indeed. But also I got some commercials that 2746 02:29:35.760 --> 02:29:38.799 we're gonna play here in a little bit. Keep that 2747 02:29:38.959 --> 02:29:41.840 date in mind, you just said, and making sure I 2748 02:29:41.959 --> 02:29:46.200 fully fully hear you. Nineteen ninety eight was the largest 2749 02:29:46.799 --> 02:29:50.840 payout that Big tobacco paid to their legal or to 2750 02:29:50.879 --> 02:29:52.639 the to the politicians more. 2751 02:29:52.520 --> 02:29:55.319 Accurate, more than doubles every other year since then. 2752 02:29:56.159 --> 02:29:59.200 Okay, everybody just remember that whenever we play a commercial 2753 02:29:59.520 --> 02:30:02.920 from night te teen ninety seven for a vape ad. 2754 02:30:03.280 --> 02:30:04.200 But we're gonna get. 2755 02:30:04.079 --> 02:30:07.600 There really, okay. And you can see these are the 2756 02:30:07.639 --> 02:30:11.559 top lobbying clients in twenty twenty four. Altria thirteen million, 2757 02:30:11.680 --> 02:30:15.360 Phillip Morris six million, British American Tobacco five point eight million, 2758 02:30:15.879 --> 02:30:19.559 Hey Island holding one point five million, Jewel Labs one million, 2759 02:30:19.600 --> 02:30:25.239 everybody else below a million dollars. And check this out, parties, 2760 02:30:25.280 --> 02:30:29.360 split of receipts or of recipients by election title, by 2761 02:30:29.399 --> 02:30:32.760 election cycle from nineteen ninety to twenty twenty four, a 2762 02:30:32.840 --> 02:30:36.600 Republican has taken on more money from big tobacco in 2763 02:30:36.680 --> 02:30:42.600 every single election cycle since nineteen ninety. Cool, every single year, 2764 02:30:42.639 --> 02:30:45.159 the Republicans are the ones that are being funded by 2765 02:30:45.159 --> 02:30:45.799 big tobacco. 2766 02:30:47.520 --> 02:30:50.639 I'm sure there's Democrats right now like say they are 2767 02:30:50.680 --> 02:30:53.840 the evil ones trying to kill us, and it's like, first. 2768 02:30:53.639 --> 02:30:57.120 Of all calls Democrats still be getting some cheese out 2769 02:30:57.120 --> 02:30:57.479 of it too. 2770 02:30:58.000 --> 02:30:58.440 They do. 2771 02:30:58.639 --> 02:31:00.440 The Big Tobacco prefers a Republican. 2772 02:31:01.559 --> 02:31:04.239 I think they prefer Republican because Republicans are more in 2773 02:31:04.280 --> 02:31:08.200 favor of big business. But I think that it's pretty 2774 02:31:08.280 --> 02:31:11.120 much a one to one comparison for how many Republicans 2775 02:31:11.200 --> 02:31:13.120 versus how many Democrats smoke. 2776 02:31:14.079 --> 02:31:18.159 Just we're all clear, probably, so yeah, you can see 2777 02:31:19.000 --> 02:31:21.559 party split of recipients. Check this out. Now we're going 2778 02:31:21.600 --> 02:31:25.760 to get to specific recipients who have received said money. Okay, 2779 02:31:26.399 --> 02:31:30.040 in as a matter of fact, this is what's interesting 2780 02:31:30.040 --> 02:31:34.600 about this. So these are per election cycle, so that 2781 02:31:34.760 --> 02:31:37.920 is to Democrats or Republicans, but whenever you break it 2782 02:31:37.959 --> 02:31:40.920 down to the individuals, it looks a little bit different. 2783 02:31:41.280 --> 02:31:41.719 Okay. 2784 02:31:42.079 --> 02:31:46.239 So, for example, in twenty twenty four, twenty twenty three, 2785 02:31:46.239 --> 02:31:48.959 and twenty twenty four, the funding that was going towards 2786 02:31:49.200 --> 02:31:52.399 the two running presidents, which was Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. 2787 02:31:53.319 --> 02:31:57.159 Kamala Harris received ninety five thousand dollars from big tobacco. 2788 02:31:57.719 --> 02:32:02.040 Trump only received seventy one thousand dollars. So we got 2789 02:32:02.079 --> 02:32:05.639 more money from big tobacco than even old DT. Right, 2790 02:32:05.879 --> 02:32:12.120 and then followed by certain you know, representatives, senators or whatever. 2791 02:32:13.000 --> 02:32:15.959 Tim Kaine from Virginia makes a lot of sense that 2792 02:32:16.000 --> 02:32:17.200 he would get a lot of money. That's where a 2793 02:32:17.200 --> 02:32:18.399 lot of tobacco comes from. 2794 02:32:18.639 --> 02:32:18.920 Yep. 2795 02:32:19.440 --> 02:32:22.319 Mike Johnson, how about that, your boy, Mike Johnson out 2796 02:32:22.319 --> 02:32:25.040 of Louisiana, Speaker of the House, got fifty five thousand, 2797 02:32:25.079 --> 02:32:27.840 damn near fifty six thousand dollars from big tobacco. 2798 02:32:28.639 --> 02:32:30.879 I can imagine. I know that there is some tobacco 2799 02:32:30.920 --> 02:32:32.879 that's grown in this state, so that checks out. 2800 02:32:33.159 --> 02:32:39.159 Next one, David Rooser, North Carolina, So same area of Virginia, 2801 02:32:39.239 --> 02:32:41.840 all that kind of shit. They got the tobacco going 2802 02:32:41.840 --> 02:32:45.120 on big time up there, yep. And next day. Won't 2803 02:32:45.200 --> 02:32:47.399 let me go to the next one. Oh, there's only one, okay. 2804 02:32:47.440 --> 02:32:52.000 So these are the only ones specific representatives or presidential 2805 02:32:52.000 --> 02:32:54.280 candidates that receive money in twenty twenty three and twenty 2806 02:32:54.280 --> 02:32:57.520 twenty four. Otherwise the money was going to said party. 2807 02:32:57.600 --> 02:32:59.799 But these are just the individuals that received the money. 2808 02:33:00.360 --> 02:33:02.639 That's pretty crazy. So I look this up just now 2809 02:33:02.639 --> 02:33:04.680 because I was curious if there's been a study done 2810 02:33:04.760 --> 02:33:09.959 to see who smokes more Republican voters or Democrat voters. 2811 02:33:10.159 --> 02:33:14.559 Oh boy, and just out of the curiosity, right. So, 2812 02:33:14.879 --> 02:33:18.040 studies indicate that Democrats and liberals tend to have a 2813 02:33:18.159 --> 02:33:22.920 higher smoking rate compared to Republicans and conservatives. One study 2814 02:33:22.959 --> 02:33:26.040 found that Democrats had higher odds of cigarette smoking and 2815 02:33:26.280 --> 02:33:31.079 excessive drinking compared to Republicans. In contrast, Republicans were less 2816 02:33:31.159 --> 02:33:34.280 likely to smoke than Democrats. However, the same study also 2817 02:33:34.360 --> 02:33:38.879 highlighted a nuance individuals residing in Republican majority states were 2818 02:33:38.920 --> 02:33:41.760 more likely to smoke, regardless of their own political leanings. 2819 02:33:42.200 --> 02:33:44.040 So that makes sense. But if we're going to just 2820 02:33:44.079 --> 02:33:48.559 look at the numbers strictly the math, it actually checks 2821 02:33:48.600 --> 02:33:54.280 out that Democrats pay more into big tobacco by you know, 2822 02:33:54.399 --> 02:33:59.479 buying more shit than conservatives and Republicans do. But somehow 2823 02:33:59.520 --> 02:34:02.479 the Republics are the ones that get most of the funding. Why, 2824 02:34:02.520 --> 02:34:05.520 you might ask, because Republicans are all about big business. 2825 02:34:05.840 --> 02:34:09.120 They're all about the corporations. That's why a lot of 2826 02:34:09.120 --> 02:34:11.840 big businesses, a lot of fortune five hundred companies, throw 2827 02:34:11.879 --> 02:34:14.559 their lot in way more heavily with Republicans because they're 2828 02:34:14.600 --> 02:34:15.959 going to be less restricted. 2829 02:34:17.239 --> 02:34:20.879 Makes sense, makes sense. I do have one more thing 2830 02:34:20.879 --> 02:34:22.440 that I did want to bring up I have two 2831 02:34:22.479 --> 02:34:24.120 other I don't know if I want to talk about 2832 02:34:24.120 --> 02:34:27.479 the other thing that I just just out of spite 2833 02:34:27.719 --> 02:34:30.799 and the fucking renegade in me, I was going to 2834 02:34:30.840 --> 02:34:33.239 teach everybody how to make their own baye juice. 2835 02:34:33.639 --> 02:34:35.520 I mean, it's not that hard. We listed the four 2836 02:34:35.680 --> 02:34:38.760 ingredients earlier, and you could buy that all of these materials. 2837 02:34:38.799 --> 02:34:42.280 You could buy candy flavorings, you can buy the nicotine salt, 2838 02:34:42.360 --> 02:34:47.520 and you can buy the vegetable glycerin or glycol excuse me, yeah, 2839 02:34:47.559 --> 02:34:48.680 you can make it at your home. 2840 02:34:49.000 --> 02:34:51.000 The information's out there, so I don't need to give 2841 02:34:51.040 --> 02:34:53.040 you the ingredient list. You can go and search that. 2842 02:34:53.120 --> 02:34:55.719 It's really easy to find. It's not like super hidden 2843 02:34:55.760 --> 02:34:59.079 anywhere now. But that being said, the last thing that 2844 02:34:59.120 --> 02:35:02.719 I did want to present is just a final overview, 2845 02:35:02.799 --> 02:35:04.319 and then we got a couple of videos that we 2846 02:35:04.319 --> 02:35:07.680 wanted to show to but a final overview of vapes 2847 02:35:07.799 --> 02:35:10.239 versus cigarettes, just to lay it all out there with 2848 02:35:10.280 --> 02:35:12.799 everything that we've talked about, plus a little bit more so. 2849 02:35:14.200 --> 02:35:16.639 I was curious, you know, is there a legal reason 2850 02:35:16.639 --> 02:35:19.280 why cigarettes have so many chemicals? Or is it to 2851 02:35:19.440 --> 02:35:24.120 strictly save money by using cheaper filler products. I was like, 2852 02:35:24.120 --> 02:35:26.280 all right, let's see if it goes there, Like, is 2853 02:35:26.319 --> 02:35:28.559 that the reason why there's so many, so many chemicals? 2854 02:35:28.680 --> 02:35:28.840 Right? 2855 02:35:30.000 --> 02:35:33.879 So then I got five things that would back this up. 2856 02:35:33.959 --> 02:35:37.280 It says it's not really a legal requirement for cigarettes 2857 02:35:37.280 --> 02:35:39.760 to have so many chemicals. It's almost entirely the result 2858 02:35:39.840 --> 02:35:45.440 of manufacturing choices, cost cutting, and addiction engineering. So how 2859 02:35:45.440 --> 02:35:49.000 that breaks down is is cheaper to produce with additives 2860 02:35:49.000 --> 02:35:51.920 and fillers. Look at the pap industry, it's no different. 2861 02:35:52.040 --> 02:35:52.200 Right. 2862 02:35:53.200 --> 02:35:58.360 So tobacco companies use reconstituted tobacco sheet, which is basically 2863 02:35:58.399 --> 02:36:02.680 ground up stems, scrap, and dust, glued together with chemicals 2864 02:36:02.879 --> 02:36:07.280 and sprayed with flavor enhancers, instead of using only whole 2865 02:36:07.280 --> 02:36:08.079 tobacco leaf. 2866 02:36:08.719 --> 02:36:09.200 Yeah. 2867 02:36:09.319 --> 02:36:11.760 So already you're getting the fucking scraps of the scraps. 2868 02:36:11.840 --> 02:36:15.239 When you smoke, you're getting tobacco pulp that that's essentially 2869 02:36:15.239 --> 02:36:17.639 what it is, and it's all glued together with chemicals 2870 02:36:17.680 --> 02:36:19.079 that are horror before you with you. 2871 02:36:19.639 --> 02:36:21.799 Yeah, I mean, if you're a weed smoker, they're giving 2872 02:36:21.840 --> 02:36:23.360 you the seeds and stems. 2873 02:36:23.239 --> 02:36:25.280 That's it. They're grinding up the seeds and stems and 2874 02:36:25.319 --> 02:36:27.639 putting that sticky ichy on it to use as glue 2875 02:36:27.680 --> 02:36:30.040 and then trying to sell it like it's already pre ground. 2876 02:36:30.559 --> 02:36:35.040 So this sheet in quotes, is it's almost like fucking plywood, 2877 02:36:35.440 --> 02:36:38.840 is what they're like, pulpwood exactly, yes, same the particle 2878 02:36:38.840 --> 02:36:43.559 board shit. So this sheet is cheaper, it burns more evenly, 2879 02:36:43.639 --> 02:36:48.479 and it allows precise nicotine dosing. It also allows or 2880 02:36:48.520 --> 02:36:51.879 it also lets them mix in cheap filler materials and 2881 02:36:52.000 --> 02:36:56.719 chemical agents without consumers noticing. So when you're thinking about 2882 02:36:56.719 --> 02:37:01.000 the fucking thousands of different harmful chemical agents within a cigarette, 2883 02:37:01.520 --> 02:37:03.760 this this is why they're doing it. It's not that 2884 02:37:03.799 --> 02:37:08.559 cigarettes are fucking safer. It's not that they're less addictive 2885 02:37:08.680 --> 02:37:10.479 or anything like that. No, no, no, no, they're not 2886 02:37:10.479 --> 02:37:13.079 worried about your health because they're going to cut corners 2887 02:37:13.079 --> 02:37:16.639 at every single fucking possible place they could. And this 2888 02:37:16.840 --> 02:37:19.319 is a way that they do it. Another crazy thing 2889 02:37:19.360 --> 02:37:24.159 I didn't know this. They have addiction optimization. Okay, they 2890 02:37:24.200 --> 02:37:27.479 find a way to make nicotine even more addictive than 2891 02:37:27.639 --> 02:37:32.639 just the natural nicotine. Okay. Chemicals like ammonia are added 2892 02:37:32.799 --> 02:37:35.920 in the cigarettes to raise the pH of the smoke, 2893 02:37:36.280 --> 02:37:40.079 which turns nicotine into a quote unquote free base form. 2894 02:37:40.520 --> 02:37:44.159 This hits the brain faster, much like crack cocaine versus 2895 02:37:44.200 --> 02:37:49.920 powdered cocaine, making cigarettes more addictive. Oh my god. 2896 02:37:51.159 --> 02:37:55.280 This is pre based cocaine. That's Jesus dude. 2897 02:37:55.360 --> 02:38:01.040 Bak is soda. Yeah, yeah, that's what that is. Sugar, cocoa, 2898 02:38:01.159 --> 02:38:04.920 and menthol aren't just flavorings. They also alter the smoke 2899 02:38:05.040 --> 02:38:09.239 chemistry to make inhalation smoother, allowing deeper drags and bigger 2900 02:38:09.360 --> 02:38:12.559 nicotine absorption, so they want to try and get you 2901 02:38:12.559 --> 02:38:16.879 as addicted as humanly fucking possible. Another way is burn 2902 02:38:17.000 --> 02:38:21.120 control and shelf life, so they add potassium citrate and 2903 02:38:21.200 --> 02:38:25.760 other agents to make cigarettes burn slower or faster, depending 2904 02:38:25.799 --> 02:38:30.719 on marketing needs. There are preservatives and mold inhibitors that 2905 02:38:31.319 --> 02:38:36.200 extend storage life, especially for products shipped globally. Then you 2906 02:38:36.239 --> 02:38:39.360 have brand consistency. It says every Marlboro has to taste 2907 02:38:39.440 --> 02:38:42.559 like every other Marborough, no matter where or when it's bought. 2908 02:38:42.799 --> 02:38:46.760 Achieving that means standardizing the chemical cocktail so that even 2909 02:38:46.840 --> 02:38:51.120 different batches of tobacco of tobacco taste exactly the same. 2910 02:38:52.079 --> 02:38:55.920 This makes sense for like brand recognition, right do you 2911 02:38:56.000 --> 02:38:59.760 want to have that standardization across the board, like for 2912 02:38:59.799 --> 02:39:04.559 a business. I understand that, but you're standardizing it with 2913 02:39:05.200 --> 02:39:08.399 horrible shit that you know are killing your customer base. 2914 02:39:08.799 --> 02:39:12.360 So you want to look at people. Uh, people will say, well, 2915 02:39:12.360 --> 02:39:16.799 you should invade because it's unnatural. Bro, this is the 2916 02:39:16.879 --> 02:39:21.159 onmost the the most unnatural fucking cocktail soup that you 2917 02:39:21.239 --> 02:39:24.120 could imagine. You're not even smoking what you think you're smoking, 2918 02:39:24.760 --> 02:39:30.280 right right. Uh. They also have legal loopholes, and disclosure 2919 02:39:30.399 --> 02:39:35.760 doesn't equal ban. So there's no law requiring manufacturers to 2920 02:39:35.959 --> 02:39:39.559 keep cigarettes as pure tobacco, no law that says that 2921 02:39:40.000 --> 02:39:42.959 in most countries they must disclose the presence of certain 2922 02:39:43.000 --> 02:39:47.040 harmful chemicals. But they're not prohibited. They're not prohibited from 2923 02:39:47.159 --> 02:39:49.479 using them. As long as they disclose and tell you 2924 02:39:49.559 --> 02:39:51.920 what's in it, they're still allowed to use it. So 2925 02:39:52.159 --> 02:39:55.319 governments don't push for removal of this because it would 2926 02:39:55.399 --> 02:39:58.280 hurt tax revenue if cigarettes became less addictive and people 2927 02:39:58.319 --> 02:40:03.120 smoked less. And also, tobacco companies have powerful lobbying arms 2928 02:40:03.120 --> 02:40:07.319 that protect their formulas, so it's not a legal necessity. 2929 02:40:07.360 --> 02:40:10.440 It's a corporate strategy cheaper to make more addictive easier 2930 02:40:10.440 --> 02:40:13.159 to mass produce consistently, and backed by a system that 2931 02:40:13.239 --> 02:40:17.399 profits from keeping people hooked. If you smoked pure, additive 2932 02:40:17.440 --> 02:40:20.319 free tobacco leaf, it would still carry health risks, but 2933 02:40:20.399 --> 02:40:23.879 you'd avoid hundreds of those extra industrial chemicals designed to 2934 02:40:23.959 --> 02:40:27.959 keep you coming back for more. So I then asked, 2935 02:40:28.159 --> 02:40:31.799 does China do the same thing with their vapes. Let's 2936 02:40:31.799 --> 02:40:34.840 call spade a spade here. Okay, it says yeah in 2937 02:40:34.879 --> 02:40:36.719 a way, but the motives and methods are a bit 2938 02:40:36.760 --> 02:40:39.760 different from what big Tobacco does with cigarettes. So here's 2939 02:40:39.799 --> 02:40:43.600 how it works with China and vapes. China controls most 2940 02:40:43.600 --> 02:40:46.959 of the world's vape manufacturing over ninety percent of the 2941 02:40:46.959 --> 02:40:51.559 world's vapes, hardware, devices, coils, pods, and a large portion 2942 02:40:51.600 --> 02:40:55.959 of the liquid supply comes from China, especially from shen Zen. 2943 02:40:56.719 --> 02:40:58.760 Yeah, that's where this company's based out of. As a 2944 02:40:58.799 --> 02:40:59.879 matter of fact, I looked it up. 2945 02:41:00.200 --> 02:41:04.799 Makes sense. So that means whatever standards, shortcuts or substitutions happen, 2946 02:41:05.159 --> 02:41:08.879 happen there ripple out globally. So additives and cost cutting 2947 02:41:09.239 --> 02:41:12.760 in liquids in the unregulated side of China's vape industry, 2948 02:41:12.840 --> 02:41:16.280 especially for products sold domestically or through gray market exporters. 2949 02:41:16.559 --> 02:41:20.600 Cheap flavoring agents, synthetic nicotine, or even cutting agents can 2950 02:41:20.639 --> 02:41:25.000 be used to reduce production costs. Some small factories don't 2951 02:41:25.079 --> 02:41:30.440 use pharmaceutical grade PGVEG, which is the oil or lab 2952 02:41:30.520 --> 02:41:34.639 tested nicotine, which can introduce contaminants, heavy metals, pesticide, residue, 2953 02:41:34.719 --> 02:41:37.399 or solvent traces. This is less about making vapes more 2954 02:41:37.399 --> 02:41:40.760 addictive like cigarettes, and more about keeping prices ultra low 2955 02:41:40.840 --> 02:41:45.440 and maximizing profit margins. So they're still doing the same 2956 02:41:45.520 --> 02:41:49.479 thing it in just a different way. This is why 2957 02:41:50.120 --> 02:41:53.079 I think that everybody, and even still, even with them 2958 02:41:53.120 --> 02:41:57.920 doing all of that, still ninety five percent less harmful. Yeah, 2959 02:41:58.319 --> 02:42:00.959 don't forget that number, still ninety five percent less harmful. 2960 02:42:02.559 --> 02:42:06.920 Which begs the question that even if they are putting 2961 02:42:07.200 --> 02:42:11.120 some negative components inside of the vape liquid or whatever, 2962 02:42:12.200 --> 02:42:18.319 would that ninety five percent less be significantly less if 2963 02:42:18.399 --> 02:42:20.680 you were to make your own vape juice. 2964 02:42:20.879 --> 02:42:24.120 I think you would, I think so personally. Right, you're 2965 02:42:24.120 --> 02:42:29.280 taking out the uh, the factory manufacturing of it, which 2966 02:42:29.280 --> 02:42:32.639 is where those potentially harmful things can really come from, 2967 02:42:33.120 --> 02:42:33.719 right right. 2968 02:42:33.959 --> 02:42:37.200 So, and one final thing here, just to really put 2969 02:42:37.200 --> 02:42:39.959 a fucking bow on this bad boy. I wanted to 2970 02:42:40.000 --> 02:42:44.440 see what are the number of deaths related to nicotine 2971 02:42:44.479 --> 02:42:47.920 and smoking. Let's see what they are, you know, if 2972 02:42:47.920 --> 02:42:50.760 one's so bad, I mean, maybe we should see the 2973 02:42:50.760 --> 02:42:51.280 fruits of that. 2974 02:42:51.600 --> 02:42:51.760 Right. 2975 02:42:51.840 --> 02:42:53.840 Yeah, So here's what the. 2976 02:42:53.799 --> 02:42:58.840 Data currently shows confirmed deaths from vaping related lung injuries 2977 02:42:58.840 --> 02:43:02.959 in the United States. Okay, this was in a evaluation 2978 02:43:03.399 --> 02:43:07.479 of twenty nineteen to twenty twenty, So it says in 2979 02:43:07.520 --> 02:43:11.520 the twenty nineteen to twenty twenty Evolley outbreak, which is 2980 02:43:11.559 --> 02:43:15.719 e cigarette or vaping associated lung injury, the CDC confirmed 2981 02:43:15.959 --> 02:43:19.600 sixty eight deaths across twenty nine states and the District 2982 02:43:19.600 --> 02:43:24.920 of Columbia by February eighteen, twenty twenty. IVALI, however, was 2983 02:43:25.000 --> 02:43:31.959 linked primarily to contaminated THHC vaping products, particularly those those 2984 02:43:32.000 --> 02:43:37.440 contaminating are containing vitamin e acetate, not regulated nicotine vapes. 2985 02:43:37.760 --> 02:43:41.200 So that sixty nine deaths, sixty eight deaths for the 2986 02:43:41.319 --> 02:43:42.239 entire year. 2987 02:43:42.479 --> 02:43:45.920 Sixty eight deaths, but every single one of the depths 2988 02:43:46.120 --> 02:43:50.479 of the deaths were using the THHC vaping products, not nicotine. 2989 02:43:51.000 --> 02:43:54.120 But right, so, how many people die from cigarettes that year? 2990 02:43:54.239 --> 02:43:55.280 Just selling it out? Well? 2991 02:43:55.360 --> 02:43:59.399 But big Tobacco tried to say vaping kills look at this. Meanwhile, 2992 02:43:59.399 --> 02:44:03.319 it was all it had nothing to do with nicotine. Yeah, 2993 02:44:03.360 --> 02:44:05.959 and we're gonna get to those deaths, I promise. So 2994 02:44:06.399 --> 02:44:10.520 there are nicotine only vaping. If you're only smoking nicotine, 2995 02:44:10.520 --> 02:44:15.760 you're not smoking the weed vapes. Zero confirmed deaths zero. 2996 02:44:16.159 --> 02:44:21.040 There are no confirmed deaths nationally or globally attributed solely 2997 02:44:21.079 --> 02:44:25.639 to nicotine vaping and regulated products. Most serious evolley cases 2998 02:44:25.680 --> 02:44:29.680 involve the THHC or black market vape cartridges not approved 2999 02:44:29.680 --> 02:44:33.840 by nicotine based e liquids. There are other health incidents 3000 02:44:33.879 --> 02:44:37.520 and poisoning data. So poison control data shows that vaping 3001 02:44:37.559 --> 02:44:42.360 related exposures have increased, particularly in children. Among reported cases, 3002 02:44:42.760 --> 02:44:48.319 point zero point one percent involved life threatening symptoms, but 3003 02:44:48.479 --> 02:44:53.479 deaths were extremely rare, if any so in children, even 3004 02:44:53.520 --> 02:44:56.600 when the children smoke or when the children vape, which 3005 02:44:57.719 --> 02:45:00.719 they should not be doing that, right, A kid's gonna 3006 02:45:00.719 --> 02:45:01.959 be a kid. They're gonna get their hands on what 3007 02:45:02.000 --> 02:45:04.040 they shouldn't be getting their hands on. Even in the 3008 02:45:04.120 --> 02:45:08.399 kids that did it, point one percent had life threatening 3009 02:45:08.440 --> 02:45:12.319 symptoms point one That is one in a thousand. 3010 02:45:13.559 --> 02:45:18.879 There really is I mean life threatening from nicotine. Now, 3011 02:45:18.920 --> 02:45:20.639 I know, like nicotine overloads a thing and it can 3012 02:45:20.680 --> 02:45:23.760 make you puke, right, And I mean I suppose there 3013 02:45:23.840 --> 02:45:28.879 is a risk of maybe a seizure of some type 3014 02:45:29.000 --> 02:45:32.879 happening like that. Especially. I mean, have you ever you 3015 02:45:33.000 --> 02:45:35.719 ever see somebody take a dip for the first time? 3016 02:45:36.719 --> 02:45:38.520 I remember my first time as a matter of fact. 3017 02:45:38.600 --> 02:45:41.760 Yeah, And it fucked your entire world up, didn't it do? 3018 02:45:41.840 --> 02:45:43.680 I thought I was shit faced. It made me feel 3019 02:45:43.760 --> 02:45:47.799 so drunk right now. If a six year old was 3020 02:45:47.840 --> 02:45:50.840 to take a dip. Yeah, by the way, it was 3021 02:45:50.840 --> 02:45:53.280 what it was, Levi Garrett. By the way, Oh. 3022 02:45:53.120 --> 02:45:55.319 That's not a dip, br that's a chew. That's different. 3023 02:45:55.440 --> 02:45:56.200 It fucked me up. 3024 02:45:56.719 --> 02:45:59.079 Oh, dude, dip hits you harder because it got fiberglass 3025 02:45:59.120 --> 02:46:02.000 in it that cuts into your gums to pretty much 3026 02:46:02.000 --> 02:46:04.360 give you direct blood to nicotine transference. 3027 02:46:04.559 --> 02:46:04.799 Yeah. 3028 02:46:04.879 --> 02:46:08.079 Two is just you know, molasses and enriched tobacco that 3029 02:46:08.120 --> 02:46:10.840 you just two in your lip and it slowly seeps in, 3030 02:46:10.920 --> 02:46:12.879 so it still gets there. It just takes longer. Right. 3031 02:46:13.520 --> 02:46:15.440 But yeah, if you were to give like a six 3032 02:46:15.479 --> 02:46:20.600 year old that weighs I don't know, forty pounds a dip. Yeah, 3033 02:46:20.639 --> 02:46:23.000 that's gonna knock them on their fucking ass, and it's 3034 02:46:23.200 --> 02:46:25.399 very possible that that would like hurt them. So I 3035 02:46:25.479 --> 02:46:28.959 understand what they're saying with this, but I wouldn't say 3036 02:46:28.959 --> 02:46:33.200 that that's necessarily life threatening. Like I don't know to 3037 02:46:33.200 --> 02:46:36.079 what level and to what kind of saturation of nicotine 3038 02:46:36.120 --> 02:46:39.239 you would need to make it like detrimental to your 3039 02:46:39.280 --> 02:46:41.520 actual life. But I know that number does exist. 3040 02:46:42.040 --> 02:46:45.200 Yeah, it does. But this is in regards to vaping 3041 02:46:45.319 --> 02:46:49.040 in general. So one in a thousand kids on average 3042 02:46:49.319 --> 02:46:52.440 had life threatening symptoms. We don't know how much they 3043 02:46:52.440 --> 02:46:54.319 were taken in. And you know, you got some of 3044 02:46:54.319 --> 02:46:56.719 those vapes that like they spit out the juice and 3045 02:46:56.760 --> 02:46:59.159 so it's a lot more concentrated rather than just vaping 3046 02:46:59.159 --> 02:47:00.600 it because you get a little bit of the juice 3047 02:47:00.600 --> 02:47:03.040 on your tongue and in your mouth and everything. We 3048 02:47:03.120 --> 02:47:08.559 don't know, but there are. It says there are currently 3049 02:47:08.600 --> 02:47:12.520 no accurate global figures for deaths specifically due to nicotine vaping. 3050 02:47:12.799 --> 02:47:16.399 Most national agencies, including the World Health Organization, do not 3051 02:47:16.520 --> 02:47:20.159 report any nicotine only vaping fatalities. Could that be because 3052 02:47:20.200 --> 02:47:24.280 there isn't any or is it just not something that's documented. However, 3053 02:47:24.319 --> 02:47:28.040 it says the overwhelming consensus is that nicotine vaping remains 3054 02:47:28.239 --> 02:47:32.280 far less harmful than smoking, though not entirely risk free. 3055 02:47:32.399 --> 02:47:36.520 The death toll from smoking tobacco is staggering, and unlike vaping, 3056 02:47:36.840 --> 02:47:41.719 the numbers are crystal clear and universally recognized. So globally, 3057 02:47:42.719 --> 02:47:46.239 the World Health Organization estimates that tobacco kills more than 3058 02:47:46.360 --> 02:47:52.040 eight million people every year worldwide. About seven million of 3059 02:47:52.079 --> 02:47:55.840 those deaths are from direct tobacco use, and one point 3060 02:47:55.920 --> 02:48:00.200 three million, on average are from secondhand smoke exposure. Means 3061 02:48:00.280 --> 02:48:04.520 roughly one death every four seconds is tied to tobacco. 3062 02:48:05.639 --> 02:48:08.760 Every four seconds, somebody dies from smoking cigarettes. 3063 02:48:08.760 --> 02:48:12.479 Bro Warow, that's crazy. That's over like years and years 3064 02:48:12.520 --> 02:48:15.120 of use though, And I get that, But also that 3065 02:48:15.159 --> 02:48:16.959 doesn't detract from the math. 3066 02:48:17.760 --> 02:48:20.079 Right, Well, and that's the thing, I mean, what is 3067 02:48:20.079 --> 02:48:24.520 that a fifth of the people A fifth, Yeah, something 3068 02:48:24.559 --> 02:48:27.760 like that, fourth or a fifth maybe every four and 3069 02:48:27.799 --> 02:48:32.000 a half A fifth of the people are dying from second. 3070 02:48:31.760 --> 02:48:34.719 Hand Yeah, I could see that too for sure. 3071 02:48:34.799 --> 02:48:36.879 Who's dying from second hand, babe? 3072 02:48:37.280 --> 02:48:38.440 Not a goddamn person. 3073 02:48:38.600 --> 02:48:40.760 You're not even getting people dying from firsthand? Let alone 3074 02:48:40.840 --> 02:48:47.239 secondhand exactly. So smoking is the leading preventable cause of 3075 02:48:47.280 --> 02:48:50.360 death globally, causing more deaths than alcohol. Listen to this 3076 02:48:50.440 --> 02:48:53.920 fucking stat bro Smoking is the leading preventable cause of 3077 02:48:53.959 --> 02:48:59.879 death globally, causing more deaths than alcohol, illegal drugs, car accidents, 3078 02:49:00.319 --> 02:49:06.600 HIV and AIDS, and murder combined. Yeah, holy fuck, that's 3079 02:49:06.639 --> 02:49:06.879 a lot. 3080 02:49:06.959 --> 02:49:10.200 But there's a lobbying group that's trying to make sure 3081 02:49:10.280 --> 02:49:13.520 that it stays at the forefront, that everybody can get 3082 02:49:13.559 --> 02:49:15.920 their hands on cigarettes at your local gas station. 3083 02:49:16.639 --> 02:49:20.760 Yeah, it says the CDC reports that cigarette smoking causes 3084 02:49:20.760 --> 02:49:23.559 over four hundred and eighty thousand deaths each year in 3085 02:49:23.600 --> 02:49:27.239 the United States alone. This includes about forty one thousand 3086 02:49:27.280 --> 02:49:32.479 deaths a year from secondhand smoke. Holy shit, secondhand smoke 3087 02:49:32.559 --> 02:49:36.239 forty one thousand people, So that's about one in every 3088 02:49:36.280 --> 02:49:40.319 five deaths annually in the US are dying from secondhand smoke. 3089 02:49:40.520 --> 02:49:44.239 And then it says smoking also shortens the life expectancy 3090 02:49:44.280 --> 02:49:47.040 by an average of ten years compared to non smokers. 3091 02:49:47.440 --> 02:49:51.879 So in the final comparison here to nicotine vaping deaths, 3092 02:49:52.120 --> 02:49:58.079 so nicotine vaping zero confirmed deaths, smoking tobacco eight million 3093 02:49:58.159 --> 02:49:59.920 deaths worldwide every year. 3094 02:50:00.520 --> 02:50:03.000 Yeah, miss me with vaping is more. 3095 02:50:02.920 --> 02:50:05.239 Dangerous, miss me with it, because we just got I 3096 02:50:05.280 --> 02:50:07.440 showed you every fucking receipt that I could possibly find 3097 02:50:07.440 --> 02:50:07.840 on this. 3098 02:50:08.120 --> 02:50:10.879 Well, we just don't know how dangerous it is because 3099 02:50:10.879 --> 02:50:13.120 it hadn't been out long enough to have people die 3100 02:50:13.159 --> 02:50:14.959 of it. Wait until they got people that have been 3101 02:50:15.040 --> 02:50:17.680 vaping for fifty years, and then we'll see what they 3102 02:50:17.680 --> 02:50:23.079 can show. Listen, I hear that, and respectfully, that makes 3103 02:50:23.159 --> 02:50:27.760 no sense. There is no known carcinogens inside of this 3104 02:50:27.799 --> 02:50:31.120 device in my hand right now. There is, in fact, 3105 02:50:31.719 --> 02:50:37.159 thousands of chemicals and over seventy for sure known carcinogens 3106 02:50:37.159 --> 02:50:40.879 inside of every single cigarette. I'm sorry, we are not 3107 02:50:41.040 --> 02:50:43.520 comparing apples to apples in this conversation. 3108 02:50:43.959 --> 02:50:46.600 We're not. Yeah, We're just not. 3109 02:50:47.719 --> 02:50:52.760 Wow. So yeah, I would agree that big tobacco lobbyists 3110 02:50:52.799 --> 02:50:55.360 are the ones that are making all of these moves happen, 3111 02:50:55.399 --> 02:50:58.559 pulling the strings to make sure that certain political figures 3112 02:50:58.879 --> 02:51:03.079 will pass legislation, to make sure that cigarettes are going 3113 02:51:03.120 --> 02:51:06.479 to be sold, get text the fuck out of, and 3114 02:51:06.719 --> 02:51:09.559 that vapes are getting taken off of shelves and are 3115 02:51:09.600 --> 02:51:14.159 now being criminalized in states across the country that that 3116 02:51:14.239 --> 02:51:15.159 makes perfect sense to me. 3117 02:51:15.920 --> 02:51:20.799 Yeah, it's I mean, look see what say what you want, 3118 02:51:21.600 --> 02:51:24.959 but the facts don't lie on this kind of shit, right, Like, 3119 02:51:25.719 --> 02:51:27.680 I don't know how much more clear we can make 3120 02:51:27.680 --> 02:51:30.559 it now. This is not to try and tell everybody 3121 02:51:30.600 --> 02:51:31.959 that you need to go and pick up a vape 3122 02:51:31.959 --> 02:51:34.479 because it's just a fun hobby. You still shouldn't do it. 3123 02:51:34.920 --> 02:51:38.680 I would rather not have this problem. I want to 3124 02:51:38.760 --> 02:51:41.879 quit it because to say that it's not gonna kill me, 3125 02:51:42.079 --> 02:51:46.440 that's probably correct, but my allergies are out of control 3126 02:51:46.479 --> 02:51:50.719 whenever I've ape, like I am constantly with the phlegm 3127 02:51:50.920 --> 02:51:53.639 and the fucking all that nasty shit in my chest 3128 02:51:53.719 --> 02:51:56.600 and everything. There's that's still a thing. You're you're still 3129 02:51:56.639 --> 02:52:01.200 pumping fucking vapor into your lungs. Never again. Thing right, 3130 02:52:01.840 --> 02:52:06.959 But in accordance or in comparison rather to smoking cigarettes, 3131 02:52:07.719 --> 02:52:10.399 far and above not as bad. 3132 02:52:10.879 --> 02:52:14.079 Oh, it's not even in my opinion, and from all 3133 02:52:14.120 --> 02:52:16.280 of the data and research we've just looked at on 3134 02:52:16.319 --> 02:52:20.319 this episode, it's not even a fair comparison. It's it's 3135 02:52:20.399 --> 02:52:22.120 not it's a night and day conversation. 3136 02:52:22.959 --> 02:52:26.239 Yeah, yeah, so you know, do with that as you will. 3137 02:52:26.399 --> 02:52:28.559 I had one more thing that I wanted to look up, 3138 02:52:28.639 --> 02:52:31.399 So the amount of deaths, because I know that there's 3139 02:52:31.479 --> 02:52:35.120 been a large increase in chemicals in the cigarettes now 3140 02:52:35.159 --> 02:52:38.000 compared to say, nineteen sixty, Right, that would be a 3141 02:52:38.040 --> 02:52:40.360 pretty easy assumption. So I wanted to see what the 3142 02:52:40.479 --> 02:52:44.120 number of deaths due to smoking in nineteen sixty compared to today, 3143 02:52:44.319 --> 02:52:46.920 if we can, more so put it on the chemicals 3144 02:52:46.920 --> 02:52:49.280 that are in it rather than just the tobacco and 3145 02:52:49.319 --> 02:52:57.760 the paper itself. Okay, So, globally smoking smoking claims around 3146 02:52:57.799 --> 02:53:00.879 seven to eight million lives each year. For example, the 3147 02:53:00.879 --> 02:53:03.559 World Health Organization states that tobacco kills more than seven 3148 02:53:03.559 --> 02:53:07.600 people annually, seven million people annually. Other estimates mentioned approximately 3149 02:53:07.680 --> 02:53:13.719 eight million deaths per year, and so but in nineteen sixty, okay. Unfortunately, 3150 02:53:13.799 --> 02:53:16.879 there's no precise global figure available for smoking related deaths 3151 02:53:16.879 --> 02:53:19.000 in that year. However, we can draw on some insights 3152 02:53:19.000 --> 02:53:22.639 from historical data. So a retrospective estimate for the entire 3153 02:53:22.680 --> 02:53:28.079 twentieth century. Okay, so in the nineteen hundreds, for the 3154 02:53:28.280 --> 02:53:31.319 entire twentieth century, suggests that around one hundred million people 3155 02:53:31.399 --> 02:53:34.879 died prematurely because of smoking. Most of those deaths occurred 3156 02:53:34.920 --> 02:53:37.399 in rich countries. This works out to an average of 3157 02:53:37.440 --> 02:53:40.040 one million deaths per year across one hundred year span, 3158 02:53:40.399 --> 02:53:43.440 but smoking was far less prevalent in early decades, so 3159 02:53:43.479 --> 02:53:46.479 the annual toll in nineteen sixty was well below, or 3160 02:53:46.600 --> 02:53:49.280 was likely well below, seven to eight million. Data from 3161 02:53:49.319 --> 02:53:51.600 specific regions like parts of the United States and Europe 3162 02:53:51.639 --> 02:53:54.559 indicated growing trend in smoking related mortality through the mid 3163 02:53:54.559 --> 02:53:57.639 twentieth century, but no global estimates from nineteen sixty. 3164 02:53:57.680 --> 02:54:01.399 But it is interesting, that's not correct. The smoking was 3165 02:54:01.520 --> 02:54:04.959 very prevalent. Everybody smoked in the early nineteen hundred. 3166 02:54:05.000 --> 02:54:07.680 I thought so too, and maybe just the data collection 3167 02:54:07.879 --> 02:54:11.440 wasn't Yeah, fair, fair collection on it. But even still, 3168 02:54:11.600 --> 02:54:14.639 of what was collected, one hundred million people died in 3169 02:54:14.719 --> 02:54:17.920 the entire century, So. 3170 02:54:17.559 --> 02:54:20.239 A million people per year, and that's best case scenario. 3171 02:54:21.280 --> 02:54:25.040 Yeah, yeah, that's so. I think that that would in 3172 02:54:25.120 --> 02:54:27.799 my head that points too. All right, so a million 3173 02:54:27.799 --> 02:54:30.399 people year as opposed to eight million people per year. 3174 02:54:30.680 --> 02:54:33.000 You could say that the chemicals and the carcinogens that 3175 02:54:33.040 --> 02:54:35.959 they have added since then are far more dangerous than 3176 02:54:36.040 --> 02:54:38.399 they than were originally. And I don't even that's not 3177 02:54:38.479 --> 02:54:39.760 even a fucking stretch. 3178 02:54:40.159 --> 02:54:42.639 One hundred percent with you. So yeah, it's. 3179 02:54:42.520 --> 02:54:44.639 Probably getting fucking worse for you, bro, That's really the 3180 02:54:44.680 --> 02:54:45.399 truth of the matter. 3181 02:54:45.760 --> 02:54:48.440 Now, let's talk about some of those things from back 3182 02:54:48.440 --> 02:54:50.920 in the gap, right, So, I've got a couple of 3183 02:54:50.920 --> 02:54:53.920 commercials pulled up. The first one is called the Most 3184 02:54:53.959 --> 02:54:57.600 Honest Cigarette Commercial, and this is from nineteen seventy one. 3185 02:54:58.120 --> 02:55:01.120 All right, let's let's listen in on sniff your own Patreon, 3186 02:55:01.799 --> 02:55:03.559 enjoy the viewing. Let's watch. 3187 02:55:04.879 --> 02:55:05.760 Dim Ber. 3188 02:55:08.280 --> 02:55:10.680 And I need a break from chopping down those four 3189 02:55:10.719 --> 02:55:16.879 thousand year old redwoods. I turned to Lumberjacks cigarettes. Ah, 3190 02:55:17.799 --> 02:55:20.639 with your taste of burning leaves, when you want to 3191 02:55:20.680 --> 02:55:25.680 feel that targoing deep into your lungs, try Lumberjacks cigarettes. 3192 02:55:26.159 --> 02:55:26.959 Lumber jackson. 3193 02:55:27.120 --> 02:55:29.399 Smell them, they make your clothes smell. 3194 02:55:30.879 --> 02:55:31.200 Be me. 3195 02:55:31.600 --> 02:55:34.120 They leave stage on your teeth. 3196 02:55:35.079 --> 02:55:39.000 Pick the leaves up dead tobacco. Chop them up for lumberjacko, 3197 02:55:39.159 --> 02:55:41.840 rolled up tighter, dead on the fire, Suck them down 3198 02:55:41.879 --> 02:55:45.079 to you wet Sparso when you get gens for those 3199 02:55:46.120 --> 02:55:50.479 gens the Lumberjacks, you ball taste like cigarettes off. 3200 02:55:53.799 --> 02:55:57.879 So again, that's nineteen seventy one for a the most 3201 02:55:57.879 --> 02:56:01.479 honest cigarette commercial. However, that was obviously for an anti 3202 02:56:01.520 --> 02:56:03.600 smoking campaign, but I still thought it was. 3203 02:56:03.559 --> 02:56:06.200 Funny, beautiful. I loved it. That was good. 3204 02:56:06.799 --> 02:56:12.000 Now let's talk about a cigarette commercial from the nineteen fifties. Okay, 3205 02:56:12.319 --> 02:56:16.680 do you inhale? This is a ridiculous cigarette commercial. Get 3206 02:56:16.719 --> 02:56:17.399 ready for this one. 3207 02:56:17.680 --> 02:56:21.760 Do you inhale? Then you're better off smoking Philip Marris. 3208 02:56:22.200 --> 02:56:24.760 And here's how you can prove it. Right up a 3209 02:56:24.799 --> 02:56:28.360 Philip Marris, Take a puff, get a good mouthful of smoke, 3210 02:56:28.559 --> 02:56:31.280 and slowly let the smoke come directly through your nose. 3211 02:56:31.680 --> 02:56:33.799 Now might up your present brand and do exactly the 3212 02:56:33.840 --> 02:56:36.600 same thing. Take a puff, get a good mouthful of smoke, 3213 02:56:36.639 --> 02:56:39.079 and slowly let the smoke come directly through your nose. 3214 02:56:39.239 --> 02:56:41.479 Notice any difference, Yes. 3215 02:56:41.680 --> 02:56:45.000 But Philip Morris is so mild by my own brand 3216 02:56:45.000 --> 02:56:46.799 seems sort of harsh and burning. 3217 02:56:47.760 --> 02:56:51.239 That's irritation. And remember the irritation you felt in your 3218 02:56:51.280 --> 02:56:54.120 nose is the same irritation that occurs in your throat 3219 02:56:54.520 --> 02:56:57.760 every time you inhale your own brand. So over a 3220 02:56:57.840 --> 02:57:01.440 more enjoyable smoke than you've ever known before. Smoke to that, Morris. 3221 02:57:01.639 --> 02:57:05.920 The one cigarette proved definitely less irritating, definitely milder than 3222 02:57:06.079 --> 02:57:11.600 any other leading brad. Do you inhale, then you certainly 3223 02:57:11.680 --> 02:57:12.159 should do. 3224 02:57:18.399 --> 02:57:24.360 You now that that's called irritation. You know that my 3225 02:57:24.479 --> 02:57:28.239 nose is burning, that's called irritation. It is definitely better, 3226 02:57:28.399 --> 02:57:30.040 definitely to definitely smoke. 3227 02:57:30.120 --> 02:57:34.799 Philip Morris on fucking real, dude, that's crape. 3228 02:57:36.399 --> 02:57:39.920 That was on TV back in the day. Now, does 3229 02:57:39.959 --> 02:57:44.000 everybody remember these ridiculous Blue E cigarette commercials? 3230 02:57:44.520 --> 02:57:47.680 Uh, let's see negative one. 3231 02:57:48.600 --> 02:57:50.399 I'm tired of being a walking asterisk. 3232 02:57:51.079 --> 02:57:51.799 Negative two. 3233 02:57:52.280 --> 02:57:54.280 I'm tired of feeling guilty every time I want to 3234 02:57:54.319 --> 02:57:54.760 light up. 3235 02:57:55.040 --> 02:57:56.000 I'm Stephen Dorf. 3236 02:57:56.079 --> 02:57:58.760 I've been a smoker for twenty years, and I just 3237 02:57:58.799 --> 02:58:03.840 found the smarter alternate, Blue E six. Blue lets me 3238 02:58:03.920 --> 02:58:07.520 enjoy smoking without it affecting the people around me because 3239 02:58:07.559 --> 02:58:12.440 it's vapor, not tobacco smoke. That means no ash and 3240 02:58:12.520 --> 02:58:16.079 best of all, no offensive odor. With Blue, you can 3241 02:58:16.120 --> 02:58:18.440 smoke in a basketball game if you want to. And 3242 02:58:18.479 --> 02:58:20.440 how about not having to go outside every ten minutes 3243 02:58:20.479 --> 02:58:22.760 when you're in a bar with your friends. The point 3244 02:58:22.799 --> 02:58:29.959 is you can smoke Blue virtually anywhere. We're all adults here. 3245 02:58:30.760 --> 02:58:34.200 It's time we take our freedom back. Come on, guys, 3246 02:58:35.159 --> 02:58:36.280 rise from the ashes. 3247 02:58:39.239 --> 02:58:44.680 Yeah, blue e cigarette. Do you remember those things? 3248 02:58:44.760 --> 02:58:45.920 Doo? Yeah? 3249 02:58:45.959 --> 02:58:46.840 And they sucked. 3250 02:58:47.200 --> 02:58:50.239 They sucked, not good at all. 3251 02:58:50.639 --> 02:58:53.159 They never ever made me feel like I had actually 3252 02:58:53.200 --> 02:58:54.600 like gotten my nicotine fix. 3253 02:58:55.360 --> 02:58:58.159 No, it was always a shitty substitute. 3254 02:58:57.600 --> 02:59:00.959 It was. But that was the first red available e 3255 02:59:01.159 --> 02:59:03.120 sig that was like it looked even like a little 3256 02:59:03.120 --> 02:59:05.319 black cigarette, and he kind of made you feel like 3257 02:59:05.360 --> 02:59:07.200 you were just out there having a smoke with your 3258 02:59:07.200 --> 02:59:09.680 people or whatever the case was, but you didn't have 3259 02:59:09.719 --> 02:59:12.239 to go outside. It's so crazy. Oh my god. Now 3260 02:59:12.760 --> 02:59:17.000 let's talk about the first vape commercial ever to air 3261 02:59:17.440 --> 02:59:18.399 on television. 3262 02:59:18.799 --> 02:59:19.079 Okay. 3263 02:59:19.120 --> 02:59:21.120 It was so nuanced that there was a one eight 3264 02:59:21.200 --> 02:59:23.319 hundred number that you had to call to order your 3265 02:59:23.440 --> 02:59:26.360 vape because it wasn't something you could just buy right. 3266 02:59:27.120 --> 02:59:31.319 This is from nineteen ninety seven. Now, in nineteen ninety eight, 3267 02:59:32.239 --> 02:59:36.760 the tobacco companies spent more money than ever before in 3268 02:59:36.799 --> 02:59:41.319 the political sphere. Is there a connection here? I am 3269 02:59:41.360 --> 02:59:41.959 personally of. 3270 02:59:41.920 --> 02:59:44.200 The belief that there was no coincidence. 3271 02:59:44.879 --> 02:59:45.600 Let's check it out. 3272 02:59:48.079 --> 02:59:49.200 I thought you quit smoking. 3273 02:59:49.440 --> 02:59:49.760 I did. 3274 02:59:50.319 --> 02:59:52.399 Really, what's up with time and tails? 3275 02:59:52.559 --> 02:59:54.159 It gives me the nicotine I need to fight my 3276 02:59:54.239 --> 02:59:55.360 cravings and help me quit. 3277 02:59:55.520 --> 02:59:56.920 Really, you can only use it for. 3278 02:59:56.680 --> 02:59:58.159 For six months, and you have to use it as 3279 02:59:58.159 --> 03:00:01.719 part of the stop smoking program first. Then you can't 3280 03:00:01.799 --> 03:00:03.559 use it with anything else containing nicotine. 3281 03:00:03.639 --> 03:00:05.719 It's important to tell your doctor if you have harder 3282 03:00:05.760 --> 03:00:07.520 lung disease or are pregnant or nursing. 3283 03:00:07.639 --> 03:00:10.319 The most common side effects are mild thrower, mouth irritation, 3284 03:00:10.479 --> 03:00:11.600 cough an upset stomach. 3285 03:00:12.079 --> 03:00:15.479 How surprisingly, intelligently. 3286 03:00:15.000 --> 03:00:16.559 Ask you doctor for product information. 3287 03:00:17.360 --> 03:00:20.680 Call now to learn more about the new nicketrol Inhaler 3288 03:00:20.879 --> 03:00:23.719 and get a free copy of Pathways to Change, nic 3289 03:00:23.760 --> 03:00:27.479 Cotrol's personalized plan full of tips to help you quit smoking. 3290 03:00:28.079 --> 03:00:31.079 The nicketrol in Hailer and Pathways to Change should be 3291 03:00:31.200 --> 03:00:34.920 used as part of a total stop smoking program. Call 3292 03:00:35.040 --> 03:00:38.520 now and you'll also receive a coupon worth five dollars 3293 03:00:38.520 --> 03:00:41.840 off your prescription, plus a sample and hailer mouthpiece. 3294 03:00:42.799 --> 03:00:48.200 So call now to get started nicketrol Inhaler. That you 3295 03:00:48.280 --> 03:00:52.280 had to get a doctor's prescription for wow well, or 3296 03:00:52.319 --> 03:00:53.799 you could call the one one hundred number and just 3297 03:00:53.799 --> 03:00:56.079 buy it out right. But if you went through a doctor, 3298 03:00:56.280 --> 03:00:58.120 your insurance might even be able to help you. 3299 03:00:59.200 --> 03:01:01.440 Well, that's it's like what Australia is trying to do. 3300 03:01:02.239 --> 03:01:05.639 Right, But again, this was in ninety seven, so let's 3301 03:01:05.760 --> 03:01:07.680 just make sure we're all on the same page of 3302 03:01:07.719 --> 03:01:12.239 the facts. In nineteen ninety seven, it was understood that 3303 03:01:12.319 --> 03:01:16.879 you could vape nicotine to get off of tobacco and 3304 03:01:16.920 --> 03:01:19.399 it was going to be readily available. Yeah, this time 3305 03:01:19.440 --> 03:01:20.799 you had to go through your doctor or whatever the 3306 03:01:20.840 --> 03:01:24.239 case was, and cool, but they understood that the technology 3307 03:01:24.360 --> 03:01:26.159 was there and that it was only a matter of 3308 03:01:26.200 --> 03:01:29.760 time before it went on the mainstream. So the very 3309 03:01:29.799 --> 03:01:33.200 next year, Big Tobacco spends all of this money to 3310 03:01:33.399 --> 03:01:37.159 shut that shit down in the public zeitgeist. Then let's 3311 03:01:37.200 --> 03:01:41.440 cut to the annoying ass metal monster vape ad four 3312 03:01:41.520 --> 03:01:45.079 years ago. If anybody was watching TV back then, you'll 3313 03:01:45.120 --> 03:01:49.079 probably recognize this anti vaping commercial because it puts metal 3314 03:01:49.079 --> 03:01:50.840 in your lungs. Let's check this out. 3315 03:01:51.879 --> 03:01:54.079 If you vape, you could be in hell and ToxS 3316 03:01:54.079 --> 03:01:56.319 and metals unto your lungs. 3317 03:01:56.319 --> 03:01:57.799 Just so, how scary that is. 3318 03:01:58.000 --> 03:02:02.120 We made metal monsters, But nothing is as scary as 3319 03:02:02.120 --> 03:02:04.200 the facts vapor can deliver it. 3320 03:02:04.280 --> 03:02:06.719 ToxS, and metals like nickel and lead into your lungs. 3321 03:02:08.040 --> 03:02:10.879 Nickel and lead into your lungs. And he didn't say 3322 03:02:10.920 --> 03:02:14.280 that it does. He says that it can deliver these 3323 03:02:14.280 --> 03:02:17.040 things into your lungs. Is there any fucking study to 3324 03:02:17.200 --> 03:02:19.360 show that whatsoever that was from the real cost? 3325 03:02:19.920 --> 03:02:25.040 It can uh send unicorn farts into my lungs too, right? 3326 03:02:25.159 --> 03:02:27.799 I mean, there's a greater than zero percent chance that 3327 03:02:28.159 --> 03:02:32.000 you could swallow your vapor and choke to death. Will 3328 03:02:32.040 --> 03:02:36.879 somebody think about the children? I'm telling you, bro, it's oh, 3329 03:02:36.920 --> 03:02:37.760 it's mine numbing. 3330 03:02:38.079 --> 03:02:41.040 There's a chance that somebody queathed into your e juice. 3331 03:02:41.079 --> 03:02:45.159 Do you really want to inhale that? It's ridiculous. 3332 03:02:45.760 --> 03:02:47.680 So, yeah, when we're talking about the amount of money 3333 03:02:47.799 --> 03:02:50.479 that Big Tobacco is willing to spend to make you 3334 03:02:50.520 --> 03:02:54.520 buy their products and to make you not consider their competition, 3335 03:02:54.600 --> 03:02:57.639 which is vaping, it makes perfect sense that they have 3336 03:02:57.879 --> 03:03:01.079 pulled out all of the stops. It's just it's mind 3337 03:03:01.079 --> 03:03:03.000 blowing to see how things have traversed time. 3338 03:03:03.639 --> 03:03:06.559 So the next time you hear we're doing this for 3339 03:03:06.600 --> 03:03:09.520 your health, remember the same people saying that they are 3340 03:03:09.559 --> 03:03:13.760 fine with selling cigarettes, pesticide, lace, food, toxic tap water, 3341 03:03:13.959 --> 03:03:17.360 and NonStop mental poison in the media. The vape ban 3342 03:03:17.520 --> 03:03:21.239 isn't about saving lives. It's about keeping control, keeping money flowing, 3343 03:03:21.319 --> 03:03:25.000 and making sure your choices only exist inside their marketplace. 3344 03:03:25.239 --> 03:03:27.600 The real danger isn't your vape, it's in the system 3345 03:03:27.600 --> 03:03:30.680 that it tells you what you can and can't do 3346 03:03:31.040 --> 03:03:34.159 while cashing in on both sides. And until people see that, 3347 03:03:34.360 --> 03:03:38.840 they'll keep falling for the same play. That's all we 3348 03:03:38.920 --> 03:03:41.799 got for today. So hopefully it shed a little bit 3349 03:03:41.799 --> 03:03:46.920 of light on people with smoking and vaping. And to 3350 03:03:46.959 --> 03:03:49.200 be honest, this might be more of a call for 3351 03:03:49.319 --> 03:03:52.040 if you're still smoking cigarettes, change the vaping. 3352 03:03:53.360 --> 03:03:55.479 Well if you can. They're making it more and more 3353 03:03:55.520 --> 03:03:58.040 outlawed by the day. So if you can go get 3354 03:03:58.040 --> 03:04:00.120 your hands on a vape, I suggest you do that 3355 03:04:00.120 --> 03:04:01.920 that rather than buy another pack of cigarettes. 3356 03:04:02.120 --> 03:04:04.840 That's you know, this is just another episode of follow 3357 03:04:05.079 --> 03:04:08.120 the money and see what their real intentions are. I 3358 03:04:08.120 --> 03:04:10.000 think we found out what the real intentions are. They 3359 03:04:10.000 --> 03:04:12.120 don't care about your health, they care about their pocketbook. 3360 03:04:12.520 --> 03:04:16.559 And so yeah, uh, hopefully somebody or you know, y'all 3361 03:04:16.639 --> 03:04:19.360 learned a little something on this show, because this is 3362 03:04:19.360 --> 03:04:22.000 something that I've I've honestly, I thought about doing this 3363 03:04:22.079 --> 03:04:23.639 show for years and I kind of put it off 3364 03:04:23.639 --> 03:04:25.879 because I was scared of what I might find. But 3365 03:04:25.920 --> 03:04:27.760 then I was like, you know what, dude, let me 3366 03:04:27.799 --> 03:04:31.040 just fucking figure this out because it is worse. Then 3367 03:04:31.079 --> 03:04:33.200 that'll be more more so a reason for me to 3368 03:04:33.239 --> 03:04:34.959 want to quit, you know what I mean? Like that 3369 03:04:35.040 --> 03:04:37.479 was that was my mindset. It was either I'm either 3370 03:04:37.520 --> 03:04:39.760 gonna prove that these are safer than cigarettes or I'm 3371 03:04:39.799 --> 03:04:42.479 gonna quit. Those are the only two options, right, And 3372 03:04:42.479 --> 03:04:46.360 I'm still going to quit eventually. But yeah, all of 3373 03:04:46.399 --> 03:04:50.319 the propaganda saying that they're worse than cigarettes, wrong goo. 3374 03:04:51.559 --> 03:04:53.559 Yeah, I mean, I'm definitely gonna be quitting this here 3375 03:04:53.559 --> 03:04:56.120 in the next few months, realistic. I just started working 3376 03:04:56.120 --> 03:04:58.760 out again this week, like actually giving a fuck about 3377 03:04:58.760 --> 03:05:03.000 working out this week. My cardio is so trash that, yeah, 3378 03:05:03.040 --> 03:05:05.440 I am going to be quitting vaping for sure. But 3379 03:05:06.440 --> 03:05:10.120 that being said, I'm certainly never I and for years now, 3380 03:05:10.159 --> 03:05:13.000 I have never considered going back to smoking cigarettes. That 3381 03:05:13.520 --> 03:05:15.360 was never a part of the conversation. If anything, I 3382 03:05:15.440 --> 03:05:19.319 go back to chewing like real shit, But no. 3383 03:05:19.399 --> 03:05:23.120 I feel that. So, I mean, if nothing else, then 3384 03:05:23.479 --> 03:05:25.360 this will just be a little something that you can 3385 03:05:25.399 --> 03:05:29.000 compartmentalize in your mind. 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