WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.839 --> 00:00:08.199 Multiple people in my family clean my father, are veterans 2 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:09.320 and the troops. 3 00:00:08.919 --> 00:00:10.839 That have been de war and now they're back and 4 00:00:11.119 --> 00:00:14.800 think and be grateful for their service, sacrifice, love for 5 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:18.559 the country, just unselfishness, all that they do for us. 6 00:00:18.679 --> 00:00:22.000 There are some people in this country who take extraordinary 7 00:00:22.039 --> 00:00:25.600 steps to provide for their freedom and security. We forget 8 00:00:25.600 --> 00:00:26.559 that those people exist. 9 00:00:27.320 --> 00:00:30.559 We know them as the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, 10 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:38.600 and Coastguard. They call themselves soldiers, seals, rangers, airmen, sailors, devil. 11 00:00:38.320 --> 00:00:42.560 Dogs, and so much more. We call them. 12 00:00:42.560 --> 00:00:48.079 Fathers, brothers, sons and husbands, mothers, daughters, sisters and wives. 13 00:00:49.159 --> 00:00:53.880 We call them friend and neighbor. These veterans answered the call, 14 00:00:54.439 --> 00:01:01.600 now we answer theirs. They are the best our country 15 00:01:01.640 --> 00:01:02.840 has to offer, and. 16 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:04.599 We love them. 17 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:12.799 Today, we honor them and we start them. David maulsbys 18 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:16.680 your host, and he welcomes you to this community of veterans, 19 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:24.879 as together we are building the road to hope. 20 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:25.319 And indeed we are glad to have you along. 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This past week, last Wednesday, actually 53 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:25.680 marked eight years from the very first show, Road to 54 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:29.199 Hope Radio. So eight years of this and if you 55 00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:33.240 go to the Road to Hope Radio Facebook page, you 56 00:03:33.319 --> 00:03:36.479 will see a mention of it there and a link 57 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:41.520 to the iHeartMedia app version of Road Hope Radio. But 58 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:43.719 where again, wherever you listen to podcasts, just look for 59 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:47.800 Road to Hope Radio. But there's eight years of stories there. 60 00:03:48.319 --> 00:03:51.199 So while you're waiting for you know, the next show 61 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:53.280 to drop, you got eight years to get caught up on. 62 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:57.719 So appreciate you doing that. Appreciate so very much our 63 00:03:57.759 --> 00:04:01.960 show sponsors that pay for the time but can't help it, 64 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:07.479 say a big shout out and thank you tremendous appreciation 65 00:04:08.520 --> 00:04:12.360 for Michael Barry, who voices the introduction for us. But 66 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:17.399 if it were not for Michael and his passion to 67 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:20.639 help get this thing launched, the show never would have 68 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:24.240 been a possibility. So great thank you to Michael Berry 69 00:04:24.279 --> 00:04:29.240 for his support of the show, obviously his support of 70 00:04:29.279 --> 00:04:34.519 the foundation. I think this coming week will be I 71 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:38.519 think it's the twelfth anniversary of his first visit to 72 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:43.759 Camp Hope and we could never ever fully express what 73 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:47.120 he has meant to this organization, to Camp Hope in particular, 74 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:55.360 but his influence, his massive listening audience that he brings 75 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:59.240 to bear in what we're trying to get accomplished in 76 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:03.000 the veteran community. Forever thankful to mister Michael Berry for 77 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:05.639 helping us get this show going and for all that 78 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:09.079 he does for the PTSD Foundation of America and Camp Hope. 79 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:13.079 And the guy he had to help convinced was ed Martini. 80 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:15.959 Got to say a great, big thank you to Eddie. 81 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:18.759 He has been a fantastic friend through the years as 82 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:22.839 well well. He does much for Saint Jude. He's also 83 00:05:22.839 --> 00:05:25.360 been a great supporter of what's going on in Camp Hope. 84 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:28.639 Invites our guys, it's crazy, invites our guys to come 85 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:30.839 out and play golf at the Saint Jude fundraiser. The 86 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:34.120 guys always have a great time every December when they 87 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:36.439 get a chance to do that. So a big thank 88 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:39.240 you to Eddie Martini because he had to approve it 89 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:42.759 and get the final Okay, let's make it happen. And 90 00:05:42.839 --> 00:05:45.920 of course iHeart Media, big thank you to iHeart Media. 91 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:49.759 This is where our show is recorded each week. This 92 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:53.439 is where we air KPRC nine to five. Oh. iHeart 93 00:05:53.480 --> 00:05:58.480 Media radio station. I think it's the oldest in Houston. 94 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:02.399 I believe the oldest radio station in Houston, and we 95 00:06:02.439 --> 00:06:05.360 are proud to have the opportunity to be a part 96 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:09.920 of that and part of the great history of KPRC 97 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:12.879 and iHeart Media here in the Houston area. And I 98 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:14.959 got to say thank you to Robert Reees. Robert's the 99 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:17.800 guy that always makes sure we have our show fully 100 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:21.680 sponsored and we are grateful for all the work he 101 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:24.279 as everybody else that I heart. I mean, I hate 102 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:28.360 to start naming people because everyone we've ever worked with 103 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:32.879 that I heart everybody has just been extremely supportive and 104 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:36.439 not just of the show and helping make the show happen, 105 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:41.360 all the things that have to be done pushing all 106 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:43.959 the right buttons. There's a lot of buttons, and I 107 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:47.040 would never get that straight. So, but everybody that's been 108 00:06:47.079 --> 00:06:49.279 a part of it, Robert's been a good friend to 109 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:55.160 the foundation from the beginning of Michael's involvement, and we 110 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:59.480 just are truly grateful. So a reminder wherever you listen 111 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:02.800 to podcast, just look for Road to Hope Radio. If 112 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:08.000 you'll hit that little subscribe button, it's free, or follow 113 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:13.439 whichever whatever it says on your venue where you find podcasts, 114 00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:16.639 it'll download automatically each and every week. You'll have it there. 115 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:18.240 You can listen to it at you're convenience. You can 116 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:20.399 even speed it up and make it sound really literally fast, 117 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:22.920 so you can get through an hour show in a 118 00:07:22.920 --> 00:07:24.720 pretty quick amount of time if that's the way you 119 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:27.519 choose to do it. But again, thank you for being 120 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:30.680 with us, Thanks for everybody who's been a part of 121 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:34.800 establishing Road to Hope Radio sustaining it. We are excited 122 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:39.759 about having completed eight years now of broadcasting this show. 123 00:07:39.800 --> 00:07:43.000 Look forward to all the years coming up. It's going 124 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:44.639 to be a fun ride. All right, we'll come back. 125 00:07:44.639 --> 00:07:46.120 We've got a couple of v's in the studio with us. 126 00:07:46.040 --> 00:08:24.759 Will write back with more of Road to Hope Radio. 127 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:14.519 And we're welcome back Rode Hope Rio. Glad to have 128 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:14.920 you along. 129 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:16.079 All right. 130 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:17.600 We got a couple of guys in the studio with 131 00:08:17.720 --> 00:08:20.199 us that are super excited about getting a chanced to 132 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:24.759 talk and tell some of their stories. It's always fun 133 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:27.519 to try to draw it out of them. Meach Week, Lindburg, 134 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:29.399 welcome back. Not your first rodeo. 135 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:32.200 Here, No, no, sir, thank you for having me. 136 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:36.120 Remind the world branch and where you're from and where 137 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:37.120 you're deployed. 138 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:43.559 Linburg Freeman, the third United States Army fifteen Juliet Mos 139 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:47.240 does not exist anymore, but that is air cavalry for 140 00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:47.879 the Army. 141 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:49.519 And where are you from? 142 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:53.000 Originally originally born and raised in New York, Long. 143 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:55.919 Island, Okay. And where'd you deploy? 144 00:08:56.399 --> 00:09:00.480 I deployed to Iraq for Operation nu Dawn. Okay, gotcha, 145 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:05.279 all right, New York. We we love, we love you. 146 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:09.600 We have to limit how many Yankees we allow and 147 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:10.840 at any particular time. 148 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:13.879 Well, I've adopted wearing the Astroe. 149 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:16.720 There you go for you. So the program does work, 150 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:21.440 works if you work it. So there's a couple of 151 00:09:21.480 --> 00:09:25.240 guys around there. I keep threatening me that CAP's gotta go. Man, 152 00:09:25.519 --> 00:09:28.600 you gotta know where you're at now. Glad to have 153 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:30.600 you here, and what do you do for the foundation now? 154 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:32.879 Because you're you came through the program? When you did 155 00:09:32.919 --> 00:09:33.440 you come through? 156 00:09:34.320 --> 00:09:37.720 I've been through the program twice. My first time was 157 00:09:38.039 --> 00:09:44.159 at the end of twenty nineteen into twenty twenty, twenty twenty, 158 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:49.159 second time was twenty twenty two, graduated twenty twenty three, 159 00:09:49.440 --> 00:09:52.639 and currently right now I am a yellow phase mentor 160 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:53.519 for the program. 161 00:09:53.639 --> 00:09:56.639 Okay, very cool. So we may come back to that 162 00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:59.200 a little bit, because folks driving around sixteen right now, I 163 00:09:59.200 --> 00:10:01.360 have no idea what yellow phase means, but we may 164 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:02.720 come back and talk a a little bit about the 165 00:10:02.720 --> 00:10:06.399 phases of the program. Also in the studio with us, 166 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:09.639 we've got Jeremy who's currently in the program at Camp Hope. 167 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:11.799 You want to tell everybody in the world who you 168 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:13.440 are and all your good stuff. 169 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:20.000 My name is Jeremy Holt. I'm from Mace, Arizona. Served 170 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:24.159 in the United States Marine Corps First Battalion, six Marines. 171 00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:30.679 I served in Ramadi, Iraq in two thousand and six 172 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:38.559 and then down in the Hellman Province in Afghanistan city 173 00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:40.759 of Garmentshire in two thousand and eight. 174 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:46.279 Okay, so let's back up in just a second. When 175 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:47.360 did you join the Corps? 176 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:53.000 I joined the Corps two thousand and five. It was 177 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:55.039 August two thousand and five. 178 00:10:55.720 --> 00:10:57.840 Right out of high school or no, I. 179 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:01.399 Kind of went in a little later. 180 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:06.919 I was about twenty one when I joined, and uh, yeah, 181 00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:12.440 I just felt the calling to to answer you know 182 00:11:12.519 --> 00:11:17.159 what happened, uh after nine to eleven. I just felt 183 00:11:17.159 --> 00:11:18.759 the conviction to serve my country. 184 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:23.759 Why did you choose the Marine Corps? 185 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:26.159 Because, uh, it was. 186 00:11:27.960 --> 00:11:32.159 Just my my grandfather was a marine in Korea, and 187 00:11:32.879 --> 00:11:36.000 you know some of the stories he told me, and 188 00:11:36.120 --> 00:11:40.919 just like seeing the uniforms and and uh just you know, 189 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:43.399 the Marine Corps to me was the best in the 190 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:44.120 best branch. 191 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:48.799 So I wanted to walk in those same footsteps. 192 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:57.080 You agree, history can repeat itself, you know with his 193 00:11:57.960 --> 00:12:01.159 lineage coming from the Marines's My ground father was army 194 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:04.559 in World War Two, so it was kind of inevitable that. 195 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:07.120 So is that a big reason why you chose the Army? 196 00:12:07.360 --> 00:12:07.960 Absolutely? 197 00:12:08.159 --> 00:12:12.159 Family, Yes, sir, got you? Okay, all right, It's always 198 00:12:12.159 --> 00:12:15.080 interesting you know what I mean. Sometimes it's something like 199 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:16.960 that that makes a lot of sense, and then sometimes 200 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:20.480 it's just how in the world did that just come 201 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:22.960 out of his mouth? That that's why he chose that 202 00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:28.600 particular branch. Okay, so family history, marine Corps, goodness, going 203 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:29.200 back to Korea. 204 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:31.279 That's Uh. 205 00:12:32.720 --> 00:12:35.799 Those stories are sometimes really difficult to hear if you 206 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:36.759 can ever get them. 207 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:40.720 Yeah, he was here. Yeah, my he was injured over there. 208 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:45.720 He got hit with a grenade. Luckily he didn't lose 209 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:48.399 any limbs, but he had trap metal in him. 210 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:55.080 He's a prople heart recipient. Uh, he just was. Uh. Yeah, 211 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:57.000 he he's a role model to me. 212 00:12:57.279 --> 00:12:57.440 Uh. 213 00:12:57.519 --> 00:12:59.720 I kind of followed in his footsteps after I got 214 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:03.320 all the War two. He was an engineer, and uh 215 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:05.080 I kind of chose that path after I got on 216 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:06.759 the Marine Corps as well, kind of followed in his 217 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:07.919 footsteps there as well. 218 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:11.279 So what did you do in between high school and 219 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:12.399 the Corps? 220 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:16.519 Uh? Trouble, Yeah, I was, I was. I was getting 221 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:17.360 in a little trouble. 222 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:22.120 I was working construction mainly, Uh, in and out of jobs. 223 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:26.120 I was just still young. I had no Yeah, no, 224 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:29.720 I knew I wanted to join the service. I got 225 00:13:29.720 --> 00:13:32.360 in a little bit of trouble, so it delayed it, 226 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:36.240 uh for about a year and a half. Uh And 227 00:13:36.919 --> 00:13:40.320 you know, once that, once I put that behind me, 228 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:43.919 I was full steam ahead and uh yeah I went 229 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:44.639 in right away. 230 00:13:45.320 --> 00:13:51.440 Okay. And what were what were you doing? Typical day 231 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:54.360 out there's it was a typical day, but kind of 232 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:56.639 the main thing you were doing while you were deployed. 233 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:03.559 So, uh, I was communicatations. I was uh. Uh I 234 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:05.919 was in the first Town six Marines Infantry. 235 00:14:06.320 --> 00:14:07.399 Uh. You know. 236 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:10.200 Two thousand and six, I was attached to Bravo Company, 237 00:14:10.519 --> 00:14:15.639 uh as a radio operator. Uh again in uh two 238 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:19.039 thousand and eight, Uh, I got attached to a weapons company, 239 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:26.919 and I mainly was a dismount hervey. I uh helped 240 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:34.720 sweet for IEDs uh you know uh h helped with 241 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:48.559 communication between the platoon and uh yeah just uh. 242 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:51.919 Just uh yeah. This is the this very difficult with deployments. 243 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:57.639 Yeah, certainly, neither of those countries are on my bucket 244 00:14:57.679 --> 00:15:01.080 list in any way, shape or form. Not a place 245 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:05.600 I want to go, not people I want to have 246 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:12.480 to interact with. What were you doing on your deployment, Lindburgh, 247 00:15:12.720 --> 00:15:15.960 Your basic job at typical day as if they were 248 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:16.759 typical day. 249 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:21.320 I was a fifteen Juliet which was an avionic electrician 250 00:15:21.480 --> 00:15:25.799 and weapons tech on the Kyawa Scout helicopter. So a 251 00:15:25.840 --> 00:15:31.879 typical day was me on the flight line oftentimes, you know, 252 00:15:32.519 --> 00:15:38.559 we serviced electronics, you know, cockpit instruments, things of that nature, 253 00:15:38.639 --> 00:15:41.480 like things I can't really go into. But then you know, 254 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:46.679 we had the weapons component of the job, which I 255 00:15:47.799 --> 00:15:50.279 really love. I just didn't you know, you know, uh, 256 00:15:51.039 --> 00:15:53.559 I had to understand, like you know, working with things 257 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:59.399 that can make me disappear, you know. But yeah, it 258 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:04.960 was a It's different than being with the infantry unit 259 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:11.799 tremendously because I was typically stationary one spot in the 260 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:15.559 on the flight line, unless you know, we had a 261 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:20.440 split fob operation which required driving or we had to 262 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:25.960 fly out of the camp camp site itself. So with 263 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:29.039 us being stationary, anybody that's stationary over there, you are 264 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:33.519 prone to attack, you know. So we definitely were attacked. 265 00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:39.840 I came very close to, you know, not making it 266 00:16:39.879 --> 00:16:43.039 back home. Grace of God saved me. 267 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:43.799 You know. 268 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:48.600 My grandmother died before the deployment, and I was not 269 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:53.200 allowed to come home to New York for her funeral, 270 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:57.519 and so I wrote a letter for my older sister 271 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:03.039 to read at her her wake, and you know, I 272 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:06.039 just believed that she was there with me on that day. 273 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:09.839 You know, tell a lot of people that you know, 274 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:13.599 my life hasn't been mine since that day. You know, 275 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:16.799 like all this is borrowed time, is God's time. So 276 00:17:17.759 --> 00:17:20.359 very thankful, thankful that you know, I was able to 277 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:24.480 get through that. I was one and done after that deployment. 278 00:17:25.960 --> 00:17:30.039 I came back and I was diagnosed with the sarcoidosis 279 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:34.880 after I PCs from the unit that I deployed with. 280 00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:40.720 And you know, I was out of the military within 281 00:17:40.880 --> 00:17:44.559 two years. What year was that I was diagnosed in 282 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:47.920 twenty thirteen? I was out by twenty fifteen. 283 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:50.799 Okay, those are you listening on KPRC. We're going to 284 00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:54.240 take a quick news break those listening through the podcast 285 00:17:54.720 --> 00:17:56.519 the Little Music, and be right back with more Road 286 00:17:56.559 --> 00:18:14.680 to Hope Radio, and we welcome you back Road to 287 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:20.440 Hope Radio. Got Lindbergh, United States Army Jeremy United States 288 00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:24.079 Marine Corps veterans. Glad to have both of you all. 289 00:18:24.119 --> 00:18:25.960 I appreciate you sharing some of your story. I know 290 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:29.240 it's not the most favorite parts of what you do 291 00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:33.079 in a day. But a quick reminder as we do 292 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:37.400 go through these stories not only of time and combat, 293 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:41.759 but the struggles coming home with the mental health diagnosis 294 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:45.039 and that type of thing, we know these can be triggering. 295 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:48.200 So we want to ask everyone if you would please 296 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:50.440 get out your phone put this phone number in it. 297 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:53.680 Whether you think it's something you'll ever need or not, 298 00:18:54.559 --> 00:18:56.880 you never know whom you might come across someone who 299 00:18:56.960 --> 00:19:01.680 needs the number. And the great thing is when someone 300 00:19:01.759 --> 00:19:06.279 calls this number, a combat veteran will answer the phone. 301 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:12.519 So for anyone struggling with combat related trauma, that will 302 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:14.160 mean the world to them to know that when they 303 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:16.920 call a combat that's going to answer the phone that 304 00:19:17.039 --> 00:19:22.799 numbers eight seven seven seven one seven PTSD or seventy 305 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:25.359 eight seventy three. There's a lot of seven. I'm gonna 306 00:19:25.359 --> 00:19:27.799 give it to you one more time eight seven seven 307 00:19:28.519 --> 00:19:34.519 seven one seven seventy eight seventy three. And the website 308 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:38.920 for the foundation PTSD Foundation of America and our interim 309 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:45.519 housing facility called Camp Hope. That website is PTSD USA 310 00:19:45.680 --> 00:19:50.000 dot org. PTSD usa dot org. You can also follow 311 00:19:50.039 --> 00:19:55.079 along through our social media PTSD USA both on Facebook 312 00:19:55.359 --> 00:19:59.079 and uh formerly known as the Twitter currently known as 313 00:19:59.119 --> 00:20:03.839 the x PTSD USA on both of those platforms and 314 00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:06.480 on Instagram. Oh also on YouTube, I should have that 315 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:11.480 PTSD USA on YouTube, and then the PTSD Foundation of 316 00:20:11.480 --> 00:20:21.799 America on Instagram. So two deployments you mentioned. I don't 317 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:28.160 remember these act words, but there were some difficult times. Obviously, 318 00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:31.480 Limberg went into a little bit of his and I'm 319 00:20:31.480 --> 00:20:36.920 not asking you go into yours, but clearly, if you're 320 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:39.799 at Camp Hope for veterans who are dealing with combat 321 00:20:39.799 --> 00:20:42.920 related PTSD, now we deal with everything else in the 322 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:47.160 world while they're with us. But that's the shared experience 323 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:55.920 that everybody there has for you after two deployments. So 324 00:20:55.960 --> 00:20:58.319 maybe it was, you know, during a deployment. I don't know, 325 00:20:58.759 --> 00:21:02.440 but when did you first notice something's something's not the 326 00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:03.039 way it should be. 327 00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:07.680 It was after my first deployment to Ramadi. Uh I 328 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:12.039 lost some brothers there. It was a really difficult deployment, 329 00:21:12.759 --> 00:21:21.279 very dangerous. Uh I d threats, indirect fire UH firefights 330 00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:26.759 on the on a daily basis, you know, then losing 331 00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:31.240 and losing people close to me. When I got back, 332 00:21:31.960 --> 00:21:34.559 you know, at the time, I didn't have time to grieve, 333 00:21:35.039 --> 00:21:38.559 and uh, I started noticing it when I got back 334 00:21:38.559 --> 00:21:43.519 from my first deployment a little more detached. My my 335 00:21:43.640 --> 00:21:50.680 drinking started to pick up. And yeah, I was kind 336 00:21:50.680 --> 00:21:55.240 of just not following orders the way I used to. 337 00:21:56.319 --> 00:22:01.480 Just was kind of had some anxieties depression. 338 00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:05.720 Did you talk to anybody about it while you were 339 00:22:05.759 --> 00:22:06.160 still in. 340 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:11.720 I didn't talk to anybody until after my second deployment. 341 00:22:13.200 --> 00:22:16.519 I had some other difficult things that happened while I 342 00:22:16.599 --> 00:22:22.079 lost my My grandfather passed away right before I went 343 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:26.359 to Afghanistan. And then my father passed away about a 344 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:31.519 week after I got back from Afghanistan. So, you know, 345 00:22:31.680 --> 00:22:35.279 coming back home, I was grieving with you know, my 346 00:22:35.359 --> 00:22:39.400 deployment to Afghanistan and getting out of the core. 347 00:22:40.119 --> 00:22:40.519 Didn't know. 348 00:22:42.519 --> 00:22:45.799 Too many people anymore, had been gone for a long time, 349 00:22:47.119 --> 00:22:52.359 and uh, yeah, I uh, you know, and then my 350 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:56.839 dad passed away. And once he passed away, you know, 351 00:22:57.039 --> 00:22:59.519 I was there for about a week and then I 352 00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:04.920 went back to Campbell's Une. Uh and uh the last 353 00:23:04.920 --> 00:23:07.359 about three or four months before getting out, it was 354 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:11.440 just dealing with the loss of every everybody, and and 355 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:16.759 uh I started drinking. Uh you know, UH kind of 356 00:23:16.839 --> 00:23:18.960 got put out of the unit. 357 00:23:19.640 --> 00:23:20.039 Uh. 358 00:23:20.079 --> 00:23:21.759 So I was in another unit with a bunch of 359 00:23:21.799 --> 00:23:26.079 people I had uh not served with. Uh wasn't it 360 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:27.359 wasn't close to anybody. 361 00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:30.519 Uh. I was drinking. Uh. 362 00:23:31.559 --> 00:23:34.400 You know, were either of you guys married when you 363 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:35.039 were deployed? 364 00:23:35.960 --> 00:23:36.279 No? 365 00:23:36.279 --> 00:23:37.920 No, I was? Were you? 366 00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:38.319 Yes? 367 00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:44.359 I think that made it more difficult for you or 368 00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:47.799 find strength in that. How do you look at that now? 369 00:23:49.079 --> 00:23:52.759 Oh, my wife and I at the time we are 370 00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:58.799 now divorced. But during that time period we actually communicated 371 00:23:58.880 --> 00:24:03.119 a lot better, and the communication between us was a 372 00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:08.279 lot stronger. Uh, being that my grandmother had just died 373 00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:12.559 before the deployment. I had a goal, you know, because 374 00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:17.400 before that I was not a model soldier at all. 375 00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:21.759 I was actually on my way to getting chaptered out 376 00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:25.640 of the army before the deployment, But it came down 377 00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:30.480 to a numbers game and I ended up deploying. But 378 00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:35.880 you know, I decided to turn my loss into success, 379 00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:39.240 and communication with with my ex wife during that time 380 00:24:40.359 --> 00:24:46.200 definitely helped. So Yeah, Like, you know, being deployed and 381 00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:52.799 setting goals for the both of us, achieving them, being 382 00:24:52.839 --> 00:24:55.119 able to talk, you know, whether it was a good 383 00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:58.759 day or a bad day. It definitely helped during that time. 384 00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:06.559 Okay, Uh, Jeremy, so you were struggling while you were 385 00:25:06.599 --> 00:25:13.480 still in when did you finally decide to reach out 386 00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:15.119 to get some some real help. 387 00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:19.559 So when I first got out, I moved back to Arizona. 388 00:25:20.960 --> 00:25:25.279 I lived there for about a year, and I was 389 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:29.119 really having a hard time. You know, I ended rolled 390 00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:32.160 into school right away and I was flunking out of classes. 391 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:34.480 I was partying too much. 392 00:25:35.359 --> 00:25:38.920 And my mom decided to taught me into coming back 393 00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:42.039 to Texas, and so I moved in with my mother, 394 00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:48.400 and I was still having a hard time, and uh, 395 00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:55.400 you know, I ended up abusing prescription drugs from the VA, 396 00:25:55.559 --> 00:25:58.599 and uh, you know, I ended up going to the 397 00:25:58.599 --> 00:25:59.880 mental hospital. 398 00:25:59.400 --> 00:25:59.599 For a. 399 00:26:01.359 --> 00:26:04.559 Couple of weeks there, and then I enrolled into a 400 00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:10.279 PTSD program about two thousand and twelve in Waco, Texas. 401 00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:11.559