Speaker 1: Do you want to be an americanity?
Speaker 2: Scott Sloan in recovery.
Speaker 3: From shoulder surgery, he said he was fine until the
Speaker 3: nerve block wore off, and then all bets were off,
Speaker 3: and so here I am in his stead. Gary Jeff
Speaker 3: Walker on seven hundred WLW, we start this morning show
Speaker 3: with one of my favorite guests all time. He was
Speaker 3: an editor and a columnist for the Cincinnati Inquirer for years,
Speaker 3: the Tucson Citizen before that, and then he formed Chili
Speaker 3: Dog Press, and through that outlet he has written and
Speaker 3: published great books about local history, including not in our Town,
Speaker 3: as I like to say, from organized Crime and Forbidden
Speaker 3: Fruit to organized Crime in Not in Our Town, The
Speaker 3: Man who Saved Cincinnati, about the Civil War. It's our
Speaker 3: conversation with Peter Brunson. How you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm here and I'm glad to be here with you.
Speaker 2: Gary Jeff. We always have a good time.
Speaker 3: New book is Promised Land, How the Midwest was one,
Speaker 3: and it's talking about everything right here in the Cincinnati
Speaker 3: area in its very origins, the beginnings of the founding
Speaker 3: of you know, towns and absolutely settlements, the very first
Speaker 3: people who moved to Cincinnati when this was a danger
Speaker 3: zone unlike any other called the Miami slaughter House because
Speaker 3: of the attacks by the Shawnee and Miami Indian tribes
Speaker 3: were so vicious and so brutal.
Speaker 4: These people risked everything to come and settle Cincinnati, and
Speaker 4: their lives were unbelievable.
Speaker 2: They were some fantastic people.
Speaker 3: So telling me that the indigenous peoples who inhabited this
Speaker 3: particular piece of the continent at the time were not
Speaker 3: necessarily peaceful of fellow human being, loving kind of folks
Speaker 3: that you know that the Indian may have had a
Speaker 3: tear in his eye, but that's maybe just blood spattered
Speaker 3: from the person that he just took care of. These wonderful,
Speaker 3: conserving and thoughtful human beings who were run over by
Speaker 3: the white settler.
Speaker 2: Those people, they.
Speaker 4: Were very brutal, not only to the settlers, but they
Speaker 4: had been brutal to each other for centuries before that. Yes,
Speaker 4: and you have to also throw in the wild card here,
Speaker 4: which is that the British were inciting a lot of
Speaker 4: this violence because they had lost the Revolutionary War and
Speaker 4: they were not happy about that. So at their ford
Speaker 4: in Detroit, they paid the Indians one hundred dollars for
Speaker 4: live hostages and fifty dollars for each scalp. So they
Speaker 4: were just a lot like terrorism today. They were incentivizing
Speaker 4: these terrorists, these Indians, to go ahead and take scalps
Speaker 4: as many as they could get and hostages, especially women
Speaker 4: and children.
Speaker 3: So it's the same thing as say George Soros using
Speaker 3: uninformed college students as a foil.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Or the way that suicide bombers in the Middle
Speaker 4: East are paid by Hamas and these other terrorist organizations
Speaker 4: ISAs same thing. Only this goes all the way back
Speaker 4: to the seventeen eighties and seventeen nineties. And I was
Speaker 4: really fascinated by the research because I always knew about
Speaker 4: the scalping. I always knew that it was dangerous, I
Speaker 4: had no idea how dangerous. How many people were taken, tortured, killed,
Speaker 4: and the degree of violence, the barbarity of it is
Speaker 4: really breathtaking. Now, there was violence on both sides. A
Speaker 4: lot of the whites also scalped because.
Speaker 3: But they were also very fine people on both sides,
Speaker 3: right people, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'd go that far. There were,
Speaker 4: no doubt, some good people on both sides. But what
Speaker 4: the thing is the white people did scalp Indians.
Speaker 2: But they did not win in Rome.
Speaker 4: Yes, they did not take captives and torture them for
Speaker 4: days at a time. That's what really separated this is
Speaker 4: that the ritual torture of their captives became a big
Speaker 4: entertainment for the tribes, where the whole tribe would turn
Speaker 4: out and enjoy this and participate.
Speaker 2: That kind of thing is really shocking.
Speaker 3: You'll see the occasional historical marker in northern Kentucky and
Speaker 3: around Greater Cincinnati. I think the one in Newport says
Speaker 3: founded in it's seventeen eighty eight ers.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, northern Kentucky was settled first, right, and that's
Speaker 4: because the Ohio River marked the boundary at which the
Speaker 4: Shawnee and Miami said you shall not enter or enter
Speaker 4: at your own risk, because that was their territory. Kentucky
Speaker 4: was considered a neutral kind of honting ground that was
Speaker 4: shared by all the tribes. So although they they they
Speaker 4: called him depredations, which were the attacks they had as
Speaker 4: many depredations in some ways more in northern Kentucky and
Speaker 4: as far south as Lexington. When Boone and Simon Kenton
Speaker 4: settled Kentucky and blazed that path. But it was the
Speaker 4: Revolutionary War veterans who came to Ohio and they were
Speaker 4: first to step on the northern bank and set up
Speaker 4: what they called stations, which were forts like Fort Washington.
Speaker 4: And they were the first ones to do that, and
Speaker 4: void did they pay a price.
Speaker 2: Well, we know that Cincinnati was.
Speaker 3: A spot during our Civil War, yes, where slaves could
Speaker 3: come across from slave territory to free territory, the front
Speaker 3: door to freedom, front order freedom. And you've written about
Speaker 3: that extensively in the past. But in this book and
Speaker 3: Promised Land, How the Midwest was won by Peter Bronson,
Speaker 3: you talk about a national conspiracy to create a slave
Speaker 3: empire that was born in Cincinnati. This is a fantastic chapter.
Speaker 4: It was a guy named George Washington Bickley, and he
Speaker 4: founded an organization called the Knights of the Golden Circle.
Speaker 4: Now I only touched on that in The Man who
Speaker 4: Saved Cincinnati and mentioned it, but I was fascinated by it,
Speaker 4: so I dug deeper. And this was a tremendously large organization.
Speaker 4: They had chapters in Illinois, Indiana, New York City, New York,
Speaker 4: State of New York, California, Texas, all throughout the South,
Speaker 4: and their chapters could have as many ten thousand people
Speaker 4: in these states.
Speaker 2: Ohio had a huge chapter.
Speaker 4: Cincinnati was well represented in the Knights of the Golden Circle.
Speaker 4: And it was a secret society whose goal it was
Speaker 4: to create a slave empire that would encompass all the
Speaker 4: southern states of the Confederacy and then extend into Central
Speaker 4: and South.
Speaker 2: America and Cuba. Wow.
Speaker 4: And this slave empire was meant to be as prosperous
Speaker 4: and powerful as North America, so that they would set
Speaker 4: up a country, a region that would rival the North
Speaker 4: and have as much political power and military power so
Speaker 4: they could protect their slave empire. And it was it
Speaker 4: was quite a conspiracy. They also plotted to kill Abraham Lincoln. Well,
Speaker 4: I mean that's probably not surprising, you know. In the
Speaker 4: same respect, well, it is.
Speaker 3: Almost constonable to think of the two attempts be they
Speaker 3: failed on President Trump during this campaign. That very much
Speaker 3: mirrors I think the sentiments of a divided nation that
Speaker 3: we were facing in eighteen sixty with the election of
Speaker 3: Abraham Lincoln. And it gives me worry and gives me
Speaker 3: pause to think about what the other side is going
Speaker 3: to do. Should Donald Trump win the election next week.
Speaker 3: I don't worry about whether Donald Trump accepts the results
Speaker 3: of the election. I'm more concerned with whether the left
Speaker 3: accepts the results of an election if they don't win,
Speaker 3: because they are seemingly a win at all cost.
Speaker 4: Crew and I agree, there's a lot of concern and
Speaker 4: a lot of people have brought up this comparison of
Speaker 4: the Civil War Antebellum Antebellum era which was proceeding leading
Speaker 4: up to the Civil War, and how divided we were.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, Gary, Jeff, there were so many parallels
Speaker 4: when I researched these books. In eighteen sixty, Lincoln was
Speaker 4: so unpopular that in Kentucky, where he was born, he
Speaker 4: only received one percent of the vote. He was stricken
Speaker 4: from the ballot in eleven states. Remember they tried to
Speaker 4: do that with Trump exactly. People began threatening him even
Speaker 4: before he took office. In fact, there was a threat
Speaker 4: an attempt to assassinate him in Cincinnati in eighteen sixty
Speaker 4: when he was on his way to his inauguration. And
Speaker 4: this is very similar to what we're seeing today. This
Speaker 4: was a nation so divided, we had violence breaking out
Speaker 4: all across the country. We had bloodshed. We had brother
Speaker 4: against brother, family against family, and this was all leading
Speaker 4: up to the Civil War. We had a governm that
Speaker 4: suspended basic civil rights, that suppressed the right of free speech.
Speaker 2: Free speech was extremely dangerous.
Speaker 4: If you went on Fountain Square in Cincinnati and gave
Speaker 4: a speech about abolition, you could be stoned. If you
Speaker 4: gave a speech about secession, you could be shot.
Speaker 2: These are the things that.
Speaker 4: Happened in those days that we can say, hmm, that
Speaker 4: sounds very familiar.
Speaker 3: It also sounds like areas that we do not need
Speaker 3: to venture back into as a country, but have sadly
Speaker 3: just in the era of Donald Trump. And I don't
Speaker 3: blame the president for that. I blame the just, the
Speaker 3: violent and unforgiving left for that rhetoric and the Trump
Speaker 3: derangement syndrome that does not have a valid leg to
Speaker 3: stand on. No matter what people on the left have said, well,
Speaker 3: of course I have Trump derangement syndrome. Any sane person
Speaker 3: would Yes, I saw that, thank you.
Speaker 4: That is like a confession, like, yes, I'm a Trump
Speaker 4: arrangement syndrome person.
Speaker 2: My name is I can't help myself. Like it's like
Speaker 2: an AA meeting.
Speaker 3: Yes for polydios my wife calls him politio idiots.
Speaker 2: So back to the Promised Land.
Speaker 3: How the Midwest was one Peter Brons and our guest,
Speaker 3: the mysterious mound builders you're talking about, and this is
Speaker 3: going back even beyond the Miami and the Shawnee.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, these would be the ancestors of the Indian tribes
Speaker 4: that we're familiar with. And the mound builders culture was
Speaker 4: existing as far as thirteen thousand years ago. But the
Speaker 4: mounds we can trace to about three thousand years ago. Okay,
Speaker 4: and it's amazing, but we don't even most of us
Speaker 4: don't know this history right in our backyard, but in
Speaker 4: all of our communities Indian Hill, Terrace Park, Marymont, Milford,
Speaker 4: right down to downtown Cincinnati. These mounds existed when these
Speaker 4: settlers arrived. They were huge. Many of them were amazingly
Speaker 4: designed to almost unbelievable exact specifications. They'd have perfect circles
Speaker 4: that were half a mile across. They had these incredible
Speaker 4: mounds and earthworks that they didn't have modern engineering tools,
Speaker 4: they didn't have any of the equipment were accustomed to,
Speaker 4: and yet they built these incredibles like the Serpent Mound. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 4: And so I got into researching who were these people
Speaker 4: and what were they all about. Well, what we can
Speaker 4: figure out is that they worshiped serpents. We can tell that, uh,
Speaker 4: they engaged in human sacrifice. We found that out from
Speaker 4: the excavations n people. Yeah, many of the sacrifices were
Speaker 4: young women and children and mass graves. They may have
Speaker 4: they probably it's almost certain that they engaged in cannibalism
Speaker 4: of eating their victims and their prisoners and their enemies.
Speaker 4: And we can tell this from the way that you'll
Speaker 4: find bones near fires, evidence of fires, and the bones
Speaker 4: show evidence of being scraped and used as a meal.
Speaker 2: You know, cannibals know how good people really are.
Speaker 4: So these are the ancestors of these vicious tribes. And
Speaker 4: some of that stuff hangs over you can see it.
Speaker 4: The torture, the entertainment of torturing victims who are their enemies.
Speaker 3: So that kind of brutality still existed. Well, I mean,
Speaker 3: you didn't have Netflix. You needed something to right everybody.
Speaker 4: Let's get together. We got a new prisoner, who's got
Speaker 4: any ideas.
Speaker 3: Come on by the hut. We're gonna do some torture
Speaker 3: to It'll be a blast.
Speaker 5: Oh man.
Speaker 2: Also in the Promised Land.
Speaker 3: You write about Cincinnati's twin sisters, who say Texas, Yes.
Speaker 3: How did twin sisters from Cincinnati saved Texas?
Speaker 4: Another amazing forgotten chapter in Cincinnati history. So in eighteen
Speaker 4: thirty six, Texas was fighting for its life against Santa
Speaker 4: Ana and the Mexican army. We all know the story
Speaker 4: of the Alamo. We may not know the story of Goliad,
Speaker 4: which was as bad or worse, where hundreds of Texians
Speaker 4: they call them Texians because they were Mexicans Mexico. Mexico
Speaker 4: owned Texas territory at that time and it was a
Speaker 4: province of Mexico, so they were Texians meaning Mexicans Texans
Speaker 4: and hundreds of those guys who fought Mexico were taken
Speaker 4: prisoner at Goliad and marched out under the pretense of
Speaker 4: gathering wood and executed.
Speaker 2: This was when people say remember the Alamo.
Speaker 4: Back in those days, they would say remember the Alamo,
Speaker 4: or they would say rem Goliad. So Texas was struggling.
Speaker 4: They were being defeated by Santa Anna. He had thousands
Speaker 4: against their hundreds, and he was marching through Texas taking
Speaker 4: no prisoners.
Speaker 2: He was a brutal brutal guy.
Speaker 4: So at this time Texas sent their ambassador an amazing name.
Speaker 2: He can't make this up. His name was Picky Un Smith.
Speaker 3: Picky Un Smith, Yes, I remember Picky Un Smith back
Speaker 3: in the fall of fifty four, and they were all
Speaker 3: gathered around the fire.
Speaker 2: Picky Un Smith. What a great name name.
Speaker 4: So he comes up, and he sent to Cincinnati, which
Speaker 4: was then a huge city. It was the westernmost city
Speaker 4: in the US that was as powerful as it was.
Speaker 4: And he sent to Cincinnati, and he comes and he
Speaker 4: tells these leading families of Cincinnati who were all descended
Speaker 4: from these same settlers who had fought for their liberty
Speaker 4: and independence in Ohio to Frio from oppression of the
Speaker 4: British and the Indians. And he comes and tells them
Speaker 4: what's going on in Texas well. Contrary to the National
Speaker 4: Neutrality Act, even our local congressmen participated in a conspiracy
Speaker 4: that was illegal that they could have lost everything and
Speaker 4: been sent to prison. They participated in a conspiracy to
Speaker 4: raise arms for Texas, which was in effect was buying
Speaker 4: cannons that they named the Twin Sisters. Texas had no cannons,
Speaker 4: and they bought these two cannons they forged them right
Speaker 4: here in Cincinnati. They put them on a boat and
Speaker 4: took them all the way down to New Orleans and
Speaker 4: then shipped them over to Texas. And these cannons saved
Speaker 4: Texas at the Battle of Sanya Sinto at Sanya Sinto.
Speaker 4: Without those cannons, Texas independence would not even have existed.
Speaker 4: And it's very possible that a lot of Texas, as
Speaker 4: we know know what today would probably be part of Mexico,
Speaker 4: still be part of Mexico if not for Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Our conversation with Peter Bronson.
Speaker 3: More ahead on seven hundred WLW, Gary Jeff and for
Speaker 3: Scott's Loan today on this Monday morning, eight days away
Speaker 3: from election day, Our conversation with Peter Bronson part uh
Speaker 3: here on seven hundred WLW. And great to have you
Speaker 3: in the studio. I know you like being in the studio.
Speaker 3: I love having guests in the studio too, because you
Speaker 3: get the you get the eye to eye contact.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's so much better, and it's it's just more
Speaker 4: natural and more fun than being on the phone.
Speaker 2: Plus, the phone is always kind of awkward.
Speaker 3: You can't see people's facial expressions on the phone.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 4: I can't read when you're trying to tell me to
Speaker 4: shut up exactly exactly, but there are some physical cues
Speaker 4: that you can see.
Speaker 2: Oh no, i'd go that far.
Speaker 3: We're talking a little bit about as we are eight
Speaker 3: days away from the election, nerd uh, about some of
Speaker 3: the parallels I see in my life with candidate Kamala
Speaker 3: and her. I'm surprised at it. Well, I was much younger.
Speaker 3: I probably was smoking pot, and I didn't care much
Speaker 3: about whatever paper I had to finish, just thinking that,
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm smart enough that I can just
Speaker 3: baffle them with my bs and I'll be fine, and
Speaker 3: I'll just cruise along, even though I didn't prepare and
Speaker 3: I didn't do the work till the very last minute
Speaker 3: in a rush, or didn't study for that test.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I know that feeling.
Speaker 3: And I had a history teacher named mister Jones, and
Speaker 3: my junior year in school American history. Mister Jones was
Speaker 3: kind of a hard ass. Those are the best teachers usually,
Speaker 3: and he was. He did wind up being one of
Speaker 3: my favorite teachers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the ones that want to be your friend,
Speaker 4: we don't remember those, do we. No, we remember the
Speaker 4: ones who said I'm going to be your teacher.
Speaker 3: Right, and you really need to learn the material or
Speaker 3: you're not going to pass this class exactly. And I
Speaker 3: remember turning in a paper I forget what it was
Speaker 3: on because I really didn't study or do any leg
Speaker 3: work on it, and turned in a paper that I
Speaker 3: rushed through at the last minute. It was all the
Speaker 3: word salad cities you see from Kamala Harris in every interview.
Speaker 4: Just string together. It's many words with big syllables. It's right, more,
Speaker 4: the more multi syllabic, the better. Get the ten dollars
Speaker 4: word book.
Speaker 3: And don't say anything of any substance whatsoever in this
Speaker 3: long string of YadA, YadA YadA. And and I thought
Speaker 3: it was at least b material because I worked. I
Speaker 3: had a lot of ten dollars words in it, uh
Speaker 3: huh in the paper and the syntax was perfect.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, my grammar was good. Huh. But
Speaker 2: it didn't say anything about the subject. I said nothing
Speaker 2: of any substance.
Speaker 3: And I wound up getting I just barely got a
Speaker 3: d oh my gosh on the paper. And I learned
Speaker 3: my lesson from that point to not, you know, engage
Speaker 3: myself in conversations. If I've got no knowledge of the
Speaker 3: subject matter and she does it on a regular basis,
Speaker 3: Oh boy, absolutely, you were talking about either JD. Vance
Speaker 3: or Elon Musk said this about a Kamala Harris campaign slogan,
Speaker 3: and let's go ahead and hear it from Kamala herself.
Speaker 6: If you don't mind, well, if anything, that's not it
Speaker 6: what you have done something differently than President Biden during
Speaker 6: the past four years.
Speaker 2: There is done a thing that comes to mind that
Speaker 2: should be her, that should be her campaign slogan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd like a bumper sticker Kamala Harris. Not a
Speaker 4: thing comes to mind.
Speaker 3: So I mean outside of our obvious partisanship for willing
Speaker 3: the country to remain a free republic and not supporting
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris. Your thoughts as we get here to this
Speaker 3: last moment. Point, of course, early voting has been going
Speaker 3: on in Ohio for a while. It starts in the
Speaker 3: Commonwealth of Kentucky where I live on Thursday, and I
Speaker 3: am still an election day voter.
Speaker 2: Did you vote already? I have voted already.
Speaker 4: I always do absentee ballot, okay, and I like to
Speaker 4: get it done quickly.
Speaker 2: I do all my research.
Speaker 4: I go on the web and look up everybody.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: I'm optimistic, but I will not believe it till I
Speaker 4: see it, because there's just so many ways that optimistic
Speaker 4: about the President Trump regaining that we're going to get
Speaker 4: a new office, as the other side might put it,
Speaker 4: we're going to get a new direction.
Speaker 2: They promised a new direction.
Speaker 4: Well really they're promising more of the same, which is
Speaker 4: high inflation, open borders, terribly weak foreign policy, incompetence. I mean, look,
Speaker 4: this is the party that gave us a mentally incompetent
Speaker 4: president for four years and totally lied about it every
Speaker 4: day for four years, with the willing complicity of the
Speaker 4: media to tell us and the vice president and the
Speaker 4: vice president to tell us he was sharp as attack.
Speaker 4: And then when they finally couldn't sustain that fraud any further,
Speaker 4: then they pulled a bait and switch and pushed in
Speaker 4: a candidate who has not received a single vote. And
Speaker 4: then they turn around and talk about the Republicans being
Speaker 4: anti democracy? Can there be anything less democratic than that?
Speaker 3: They ought to be called the hypocritic party, not the
Speaker 3: democratic party, because they always do what they're accusing Republicans
Speaker 3: of every every single time.
Speaker 2: The projection is unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Psychologists would have a they could hold a whole year's
Speaker 4: conference on the projection of one political party. But where
Speaker 4: I am now, I think is besides being optimistic, I'm
Speaker 4: sort of at the point where fatigue with the rhetoric,
Speaker 4: fatigue with the reckless rhetoric.
Speaker 2: Everybody's tired.
Speaker 4: I mean, we've got a party that has now resorted
Speaker 4: to dropping the atomic bomb of political campaigns by labeling
Speaker 4: their opponent hitler.
Speaker 2: This is just absolutely.
Speaker 3: Something that it's something that they do every four years
Speaker 3: when they're running against the Republic. They did it to Reagan.
Speaker 3: They said he was going to start World War three
Speaker 3: nuclear war. This is you know, this is this is
Speaker 3: a man who was a totalitarian, who's going to be
Speaker 3: a tyrant, Yeah, a.
Speaker 2: Tired old king.
Speaker 4: Well, apparently I forgot to do that the first four
Speaker 4: years exactly.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: But they did it with Reagan, they did it with Romney,
Speaker 3: they did it with McCain.
Speaker 2: I know, they're all hitler. It's at the last ditch moment, isn't.
Speaker 4: This like though, It's like something that you do when
Speaker 4: you're losing an argument with your spouse and you're both screaming,
Speaker 4: and then something comes out of your mouth that you
Speaker 4: regret for the rest of your life, and you turner
Speaker 4: and you say you're Hitler. You know, it's like this
Speaker 4: is it's so stupid and infantile and reckless. Because there
Speaker 4: are people out there, Garry Jeffy, we know this, and
Speaker 4: we've seen twice examples that there are lunatics out there
Speaker 4: who are willing to take that rhetoric and act on
Speaker 4: it and trying to because wouldn't it stand to logic
Speaker 4: and reason that if there were truly Adolf Hitler was
Speaker 4: truly running for president of the United States, that would
Speaker 4: be a disaster.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton said that Trump was marking the rally in
Speaker 3: Madison Square Garden in nineteen thirty nine by Nazis with
Speaker 3: his with his campaign rally.
Speaker 2: He attended there exactly exactly. I mean, it's just beyond.
Speaker 4: The writer in The Atlantic said that literally hitlerrup Trump
Speaker 4: was Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini all rolled into one. Yes
Speaker 4: and literally Hitler. Do they even know the term what
Speaker 4: it means? The definition of literally, I don't think so.
Speaker 4: That would mean that Hitler has somehow been he lived
Speaker 4: for all this time and was never in fact killed
Speaker 4: in his bunker, or that he's been somehow resurrected as
Speaker 4: some Frankin Hitler, and that he is actually in the
Speaker 4: body of What are they?
Speaker 2: What is wrong with these people?
Speaker 3: Well, if that was their October surprise, they've pulled it
Speaker 3: before and it didn't work, then it's not going to work.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: Let's go back to the book Promised Land for just
Speaker 3: a moment, because Mark has a question about this newest
Speaker 3: book by Peter Bronson, the author of the Man who
Speaker 3: Saved Cincinnat Had he not in our town Forbidden Fruit
Speaker 3: and now Promised Land? How the Midwest was one? And
Speaker 3: you talked about the mound people. The people have built
Speaker 3: mounds in this area some three thousand years ago. Yes,
Speaker 3: that you discovered and uncovered Mark, you had some more
Speaker 3: tidbits on the mounds.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, there, Jeff, My mind is turned into
Speaker 1: a pumpkin right now with you guys talking about that.
Speaker 1: But anyway, we had I live in urple iiO. We
Speaker 1: have mounds. There's actually two mounds in Urplehio.
Speaker 7: And that guy made so much sense. I didn't.
Speaker 1: You guys didn't mention that. But we have several of
Speaker 1: those and when I was a kid, Well, we have
Speaker 1: a park there and they used to have they re
Speaker 1: enacted Indian stuff there and it was I'm the cool one.
Speaker 1: You as a kid, I didn't have any idea what
Speaker 1: it was about.
Speaker 8: And one Peter.
Speaker 5: Brought that up.
Speaker 8: That just brought back a lot of memories.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, there were there were.
Speaker 3: I mean, they were very prolific building mounds in this area.
Speaker 3: There were mounds all over and in fact, in fact.
Speaker 4: The mountains in Newark are on the They had been
Speaker 4: listed by the United Nations UNESCO among the world's most
Speaker 4: Significant Historic Sites, on the same list with the Ancient
Speaker 4: Pyramids and the Great Wall of China. That's how significant
Speaker 4: these mounds are. And Newark has one of the most,
Speaker 4: the hugest, the biggest earthworks in the North American continent.
Speaker 2: It's fantastic. I was up there.
Speaker 4: There are pictures of it in my book, and we
Speaker 4: actually talk about the Newark Earthworks. And you're probably familiar
Speaker 4: with the Mound Builders country club up there, right.
Speaker 2: He's going, oh, okay, he dropped off.
Speaker 4: Well, there's a golf course up there that was built
Speaker 4: in nineteen nineteen I think it was nineteen ten, right,
Speaker 4: on the earthworks, and some of their greens are surrounded
Speaker 4: by perfect circles that were left three thousand years ago.
Speaker 2: So forget about Arnold Palmer designing your course.
Speaker 4: The Mound Builders, the Mound Builders Country Club, they have
Speaker 4: lost now in their battle, their long running battle against
Speaker 4: the State of Ohio, because the State of Ohio wanted
Speaker 4: to take that property by Eminent Domaine and set it
Speaker 4: aside as a historic site for the public, and the
Speaker 4: Mound Builders Country Club finally lost that battle. So that
Speaker 4: is being turned into a public park and the Mound
Speaker 4: Builders Country Club will be no more after this year.
Speaker 3: We keep on, let's go back to the election. I
Speaker 3: know I'm hop scotch back and forth here, but you
Speaker 3: keep hearing this repeated over and over again. This is
Speaker 3: the most consequential election in American history. This is so important,
Speaker 3: and I'm sorry. I think that's part of the fatigue
Speaker 3: for a lot of people because we have heard that before. Yes,
Speaker 3: it may be truer now than it's ever been, but
Speaker 3: at the same time, just hearing it's like the DEM's
Speaker 3: calling Trump Hitler. After a while, you desensitize, and this
Speaker 3: is the business model of it. There are a lot
Speaker 3: of people in this country who believe it or not,
Speaker 3: think that the presidential elections really don't.
Speaker 4: Matter and they won't change any fortunately, but you know
Speaker 4: there are a lot of the business model of the
Speaker 4: cable networks is basically to take every news story and
Speaker 4: turn it up to spinal taps eleven on the ten scale,
Speaker 4: so everything is the most consequential, the existential threat. We've
Speaker 4: heard that a million times existential threat. No, we're all
Speaker 4: going to be living after election day. We're all going
Speaker 4: to have to live together after election day.
Speaker 5: Amen.
Speaker 4: And I think people need to sit back, take a
Speaker 4: deep breath, and say, ask yourself, how will I deal
Speaker 4: with this if my.
Speaker 2: Loses things don't go my way?
Speaker 4: Will I be just as eager to condemn the people
Speaker 4: who refuse to accept it on my side as I
Speaker 4: would on the other side. There's a question that everybody
Speaker 4: should ask. So if it doesn't go your way, what
Speaker 4: we have to do is get along anyway and make
Speaker 4: sure we can make the best of it for our nation.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, I'm at the point now where.
Speaker 4: I want to see it just get over with and
Speaker 4: let's move on to the next chapter and deal with
Speaker 4: whatever happens. And the notion that this somehow that if
Speaker 4: my side loses, that somehow gives me permission to go
Speaker 4: out and burn buildings, or burn cars, or flip over cars,
Speaker 4: or hurt people, or throw riots and throw a tantrum
Speaker 4: in the streets. That is despicable, deplorable, illegal, and should
Speaker 4: be punished with the every tool of that.
Speaker 3: There shouldn't be a double standard about it. There were
Speaker 3: grandmothers and grandfathers still in prison for being at the
Speaker 3: capitol on January sixth, twenty twenty one, and they committed
Speaker 3: no acts of violence.
Speaker 2: Exactly, exactly, just for being there.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, never forget this, the people who were burning and
Speaker 3: looting for Black lives Mattern Antifa in the wake of
Speaker 3: the George Floyd and in the middle of the George
Speaker 3: Floyd riots that were mostly peaceful. Not when you're burning
Speaker 3: buildings and the governor of your state I said, I
Speaker 3: really love the smell of burning tires. This man could
Speaker 3: be your vice president, timbally. But when you hear this
Speaker 3: from that other side, and then people like Kamala Harris
Speaker 3: are literally contributing money to bail out the people who
Speaker 3: were committing very violent acts against their fellow citizens, against
Speaker 3: law enforcement against any structure of authority simply because.
Speaker 2: They just wanted to throw a tantrum. They were little children.
Speaker 4: Well, and you make a really good point there, because
Speaker 4: this is what makes it so important to me personally,
Speaker 4: is what I have seen as the weaponization of our
Speaker 4: government against people who disagree with government. That is, to me,
Speaker 4: the definition of tyranny. And we've seen that indisputably with
Speaker 4: the law fair trying to put a presidential candidate in jail.
Speaker 4: We've seen it with the selective prosecution by our Attorney General,
Speaker 4: Meyrick Garland, who goes after parents who protest at a
Speaker 4: school board meeting.
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4: The FBI who raids mar Lago, the home of a
Speaker 4: former president, who then selectively decides there will be no
Speaker 4: prosecution of Joe Biden for doing exactly, in fact, worse
Speaker 4: things with federal documents.
Speaker 3: Yes, and he wasn't even entitled to have those federal
Speaker 3: documents because the ones he had were from a senator
Speaker 3: and a vice president.
Speaker 2: Only the president.
Speaker 3: Only the president has the purview of deciding which document
Speaker 3: or qualify classified in which aren't. He can declassify at
Speaker 3: a whim any president, but Joe Biden wasn't president.
Speaker 2: Well, no he was.
Speaker 4: In fact, his was a serious crime. So and that's
Speaker 4: just the Justice Department. Now let's go back to the
Speaker 4: irs with where we're supposed to get eighty seven thousand agents,
Speaker 4: eighty seven thousand new agents with an unlimited budget, and
Speaker 4: let's add huge amounts of ammown weapons to come and
Speaker 4: knock on your door and do a personal audit. Come on,
Speaker 4: this is ridiculous. This is crazy town. And then you
Speaker 4: can go to the NSA, the CIA.
Speaker 2: UGUS purposely ignoring my immigration law.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's like the whole government has suddenly gone off
Speaker 4: the rails since Obama and during his administration, and it's
Speaker 4: now turned against the American people, all of us bitter
Speaker 4: clingers who cling to our guns and bibles.
Speaker 3: As Obama said, you know, well, let's finish with this point.
Speaker 3: And you and I were talking about this before we
Speaker 3: even started interview. I am not stressed about the result
Speaker 3: of the election, because ultimately we know who's in charge. Yes,
Speaker 3: God Almighty is in charge, and if it's God's will,
Speaker 3: it will happen, This will will be done, and so
Speaker 3: there's really no reason to worry. But yes, I'm very,
Speaker 3: very tired of it. This this election cycle has been
Speaker 3: going on for four years now.
Speaker 4: Actually it goes back way even farther than that, yeah,
Speaker 4: previous election.
Speaker 2: It goes back to the Trump administration.
Speaker 4: It never stuck with the Russia hoax, never and the
Speaker 4: Mueller investigation, and on and on and on, all these
Speaker 4: things to weaponize government, to turn the institutions that were
Speaker 4: created to protect and serve.
Speaker 2: The American people against the American people. Peter Bronson.
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Speaker 1: Now, do you want to be an American idiot?
Speaker 2: It's our number two the Scott's Loan Show.
Speaker 3: And I know Sloany's not here, so get over it,
Speaker 3: Gary Jef Walker and for scotts Loan, and another author.
Speaker 2: Is joining us.
Speaker 3: It's our conversation with Rick Robinson in this hour here
Speaker 3: on seven hundred WLW. He does not have a new
Speaker 3: book out, but we have previously, in fact, multiple occasions,
Speaker 3: talked about his book that was out earlier this year,
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty eight, and about the similarities and the parallels
Speaker 3: between nineteen sixty eight and twenty twenty four. We've outlined
Speaker 3: some of those in the past. Really, I mean, come on,
Speaker 3: you put me on after Pete Bronson. Really, that's what
Speaker 3: that's how much you think about you know, it's like
Speaker 3: all all the all the oxygen has already been sucked
Speaker 3: out of the room with Pete.
Speaker 2: Now I get to follow it. Follow.
Speaker 3: That reminds me of Jackie Wilson having to follow uh.
Speaker 3: The first time he had to follow on the on
Speaker 3: the Motown bus tour. He followed one night uh little
Speaker 3: Stevie Wonder when he made his first appearance, And Jackie
Speaker 3: Wilson immediately went to uh the people at Motown and said,
Speaker 3: don't ever put me on after the blind kid again.
Speaker 2: So, you know, thank you for Peter. He's the guy.
Speaker 3: He's the guy who sucks all the air out of
Speaker 3: the room and has interesting thing and then you put
Speaker 3: me on afterwards. Let me put me on first next
Speaker 3: time in front of the front of you know, what
Speaker 3: if you're willing. You got to take the deal that
Speaker 3: it has dealt to you. I guess, rick, uh So,
Speaker 3: what do you want to talk about? You want to
Speaker 3: talk about your trip that you took to Italy and
Speaker 3: spent two weeks drinking wine, convinced that you want to
Speaker 3: move to Croatia. Do you want to talk about nineteen
Speaker 3: sixty eight? Do you want to talk about the election
Speaker 3: that's just a week away? What's on your mind? Well,
Speaker 3: you know, it's interesting. I think one thing. The just
Speaker 3: gotten back from Italy are correct. This is our big
Speaker 3: anniversary trip that we every one of the big five,
Speaker 3: the Zeros are fives, we take a nice trip. And
Speaker 3: so we went and took a cruise along the coast
Speaker 3: of Italy and then went up into Italy for a
Speaker 3: couple of days also and spent some time there. And
Speaker 3: what was interesting is that whether it was a small
Speaker 3: town like one of the stops was in this little
Speaker 3: little village in Croatia, smaller, smaller population than Covington, all right,
Speaker 3: And you walk through these ancient ruins, beautiful churches. You know,
Speaker 3: when you go you got to learn the you know,
Speaker 3: abc another beautiful church. And that's every village that you
Speaker 3: go to is just another beautiful church. But as you're
Speaker 3: walking through, I started recognizing the graffiti that was on
Speaker 3: the walls, these ancient walls of little villages. And it's
Speaker 3: a populist movement, a nationalist movement that isn't just happening
Speaker 3: in America right now.
Speaker 2: You see it happening worldwide. You see it.
Speaker 3: We saw it in Croatia, we saw it in when
Speaker 3: we caught our connecting flight back through Charles de gaul
Speaker 3: in Paris. We saw it in in Italy. I understand
Speaker 3: what you're saying, and I understand why, especially in Europe,
Speaker 3: where there are all these ancient cultures, you know, and
Speaker 3: and that were pretty much developed in certain geographic regions,
Speaker 3: whether it be Italy or Spain, or France or Great
Speaker 3: Britain England. America was kind of a blend of all
Speaker 3: those cultures. But in that blending we also developed our
Speaker 3: own American culture exactly. And people hold those values dear
Speaker 3: and near and that people want a sense of belonging
Speaker 3: to a certain place, and they want a sovereignty. And
Speaker 3: America first is not I don't think it's racist or xenophobic.
Speaker 3: America first is real, and you're saying that you're seeing
Speaker 3: this in other places around the globe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was almost as if they were.
Speaker 3: Saying to the EU in and of itself, Yeah, we
Speaker 3: don't want to play anymore exactly. And that's just an
Speaker 3: interesting position juxtaposition against what we're having in the current election.
Speaker 3: Whether it means anything, who knows, but you do feel
Speaker 3: it when go overseas right now. Well, there's been such
Speaker 3: just massive vast migration in Europe. Talk about the flood
Speaker 3: that's happened, and you at our southern border in this
Speaker 3: country because of this last administration opening the flood gates.
Speaker 3: But you talk about there are places in France I've
Speaker 3: been told where you can't even tell it's France anymore.
Speaker 3: The culture has been completely upended by this massive humanity
Speaker 3: that has been forced in that the people in this country,
Speaker 3: whatever country it is, did not ask for or want,
Speaker 3: but they're leaders allowed to happen. And I think there's
Speaker 3: going to be some natural kickback against that, and it
Speaker 3: comes in the form of nationalism of populism. You hit
Speaker 3: it exactly on the head. And I think what is
Speaker 3: also interesting is looking back and when we talk about
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty eight and I talked to about it in
Speaker 3: the book, and when you and I have talked about
Speaker 3: it on numerous occasions. One of the things I find
Speaker 3: it interesting is that while the book I wrote is
Speaker 3: really focused on local reaction and reaction in a small
Speaker 3: town of what was going on sixty eight, you have
Speaker 3: to remember at the same time that that students were
Speaker 3: protesting the war in Vietnam. There were protests in France,
Speaker 3: there were protests in Czechoslovakia, there were protests all in Yugoslavia.
Speaker 3: All of this was happening not so much in a vacuum,
Speaker 3: just like it isn't happening today in a vacuum.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I get it.
Speaker 3: Rick Robinson is our guest here on seven Hundter WLW.
Speaker 3: The book is in nineteen sixty eight, it's been out
Speaker 3: for a while. Did you have a lot of Do
Speaker 3: you have a lot of success with the book? I mean,
Speaker 3: I hope you hope you had had a great success
Speaker 3: with the book. We helped promote it. You were you're
Speaker 3: officially on the payroll now of the show.
Speaker 2: You're you're my euro publicist. But yeah, it did really well.
Speaker 3: And what was what was cool was is the response
Speaker 3: after people read it, and they would drop me an email,
Speaker 3: they'd see me out somewhere or whatever, and they come
Speaker 3: up and they say, man, I want to tell you
Speaker 3: a story about nineteen sixty eight, and they want to
Speaker 3: talk about it. They want to tell about it, and
Speaker 3: it was. It's a great book to think about, the
Speaker 3: nostalgia and it's bringing back a lot of great memories
Speaker 3: for people most and a lot of just memories. Some
Speaker 3: of them aren't good memories, but a lot brought back
Speaker 3: to what was going on Rick Robinson a week before
Speaker 3: the election in nineteen sixty eight. Well, you can reference
Speaker 3: and maybe find some parallel line there.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: The parallel lines. Don't think we'll find them. I mean
Speaker 3: it does take a look at you know, you and
Speaker 3: I are always into the music. What do you think
Speaker 3: was number one on WSAI?
Speaker 2: I don't know, was it? Hey? Jude?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 2: Jude?
Speaker 3: Hey Jude ruled for the second half of the year. So,
Speaker 3: but if you listen into w C I N Johnny Taylor,
Speaker 3: who's making love to.
Speaker 2: Your old lady while you were out?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man on the country stations, stand by your man,
Speaker 3: Tammy Whynette. And at the cinemas you got to see
Speaker 3: Yellow Submarine not a great movie, a great movie at all. Well,
Speaker 3: you you have to grow up a little bit and
Speaker 3: understand the importance of illicit drug activities on the ability
Speaker 3: to watch things like Yellow Submarine. Well, I think you
Speaker 3: would when I may have watched it later in life,
Speaker 3: when I might have used something to make me seem
Speaker 3: a little bit better. The hell of the changed the
Speaker 3: words of Yellow Submarine from we all live in a
Speaker 3: yellow submarine to we all live in a purple pet boat.
Speaker 2: We had fun with that.
Speaker 3: Well, and also it's you know, right now is when
Speaker 3: the when the the Nixon era is really kind of
Speaker 3: kinding to it's gone because he would be elected in
Speaker 3: a week. He would be elected in a week, and
Speaker 3: as Nixon was always prone to do, running a horrible campaign,
Speaker 3: nearly letting some of the Humphrey, you know, Humphrey came
Speaker 3: out of the convention for the Democrats so badly beaten
Speaker 3: up by the primary process that he had no chance
Speaker 3: to win. Tamala Harris would never know about some well
Speaker 3: we talk about that. I mean, neither one of them
Speaker 3: won a primary, right, you know, Humphrey didn't want to
Speaker 3: win a primary. So but most of the most of
Speaker 3: it was done in Calaucus at the time, not primaries
Speaker 3: when you chose your chose your delegates at the time
Speaker 3: or your your nominee ye. So but but you look
Speaker 3: at that, and you look at the things that were
Speaker 3: that are going on, and there's really a lot of parallels. Again, still,
Speaker 3: you know, can Humphrey, who's running a better campaign than
Speaker 3: Nixon is running, catch him in the last week turned out? No,
Speaker 3: But Nixon didn't come close. To let us see, that's
Speaker 3: not a parallel at all, because I don't think Kamala
Speaker 3: Harris is running an effective campaign at all, and I
Speaker 3: think Donald Trump absolutely is, even though you mentioned Kamala
Speaker 3: Harris campaigning in Texas where she has little to no
Speaker 3: chance of winning that state, but it's a big electoral
Speaker 3: vote state and Donald Trump having the massive rally in
Speaker 3: Madison Square Garden last night with thousands of people packed house,
Speaker 3: where Donald Trump, you say, has no chance of winning
Speaker 3: New York and you know, it hadn't been done for
Speaker 3: quite a while since Reagan, I believe, because Reagan won
Speaker 3: every state except for Minnesota in nineteen eighty four eighty
Speaker 3: four against Walter Mondale. So I mean there's still an
Speaker 3: outside chance. And I don't believe any of this polling
Speaker 3: at all, and I haven't for a while. Well polling,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say Kamala Harris is running a great campaign
Speaker 3: and Donald Trump is not. So that doesn't chive with
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty eight. No, it doesn't. So what I'm one
Speaker 3: of the things that I don't like polling anymore. And
Speaker 3: I don't like polling anymore because of cell phones. You
Speaker 3: can't get a good sample, a valid sample, and a
Speaker 3: poll anymore with cell phones.
Speaker 2: It just doesn't work.
Speaker 3: It Why it used to be that when a pole
Speaker 3: would be run and you're you're the you're the person
Speaker 3: making the call. You're giving a list of ten names
Speaker 3: that we're going that were randomly piter in the phone book,
Speaker 3: lines that are in the phone book that have landlines,
Speaker 3: and people were likely more likely to pick them up
Speaker 3: and talk to you. And if that person you start
Speaker 3: up with them, you go down to the fifth person
Speaker 3: on the list. If that person's not there doesn't answer,
Speaker 3: you got to the one above, the one below, the
Speaker 3: one above the one below, until you get the filled
Speaker 3: out sample. Today they don't do that today, they just
Speaker 3: do the random call going into the cell phone line,
Speaker 3: and then we're going to apply an algorithm to it
Speaker 3: by we think what will then be the turnout module.
Speaker 3: I just look at that and I go, that's a
Speaker 3: four or five.
Speaker 2: I'm agree.
Speaker 3: I agree with you on this cell phone deal and
Speaker 3: how it inhibits the ability to get a real feel
Speaker 3: of how people are feeling and thinking and how they're
Speaker 3: going to vote. Because if it's not if a call
Speaker 3: comes in and I don't recognize the number or it's
Speaker 3: not in my phone book, click, it doesn't get answered. Yeah, click,
Speaker 3: So how many people are just not answering those calls
Speaker 3: that are coming in.
Speaker 2: The other thing is the emailing.
Speaker 3: This is something else that's obviously changed since nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 3: We didn't have email. I didn't have you know, little
Speaker 3: computers in our hand everywhere we went. I am bombarded
Speaker 3: because I don't know how this happened, Rick, but somehow
Speaker 3: I got on the Republican good list. So I have
Speaker 3: been I have been personally reached out to by President Trump,
Speaker 3: by Donald Trump Junior, by Eric Trump, by Laura Trump.
Speaker 2: Uh, everybody everybody wanting money? Do they? Everybody money? Everybody
Speaker 2: but Baron?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 3: I there seems to be a but my wife is
Speaker 3: was getting him from the Biden campaign, and I don't
Speaker 3: know how she got on that list, because that was
Speaker 3: kind of like somebody made a mistake, made a booboo there.
Speaker 2: Maybe because she's female, they thought.
Speaker 3: But yeah, if but the sample, the sample doesn't work anymore.
Speaker 3: You now have to apply turnout algorithms, everything else to
Speaker 3: the thing. Tony Fabrizio, who is currently doing the plant
Speaker 3: with the polling for the Donald Trump campaign, brilliant guy.
Speaker 3: Liked the guy a lot. When I ran for Congress
Speaker 3: years and years ago, I used his his company's polling procedure.
Speaker 2: They did that.
Speaker 3: When you talk to people like Tony and you watch
Speaker 3: them on TV again, the smartest guy's in the business
Speaker 3: when it comes to polling. Seems to me that what
Speaker 3: they're saying is that the only thing we're using polling
Speaker 3: right now is to look for trends. Look for something
Speaker 3: happening here, something pushing this vote there, something pushing this
Speaker 3: demographic meaning different different demographic geographic areas. Right, we're not
Speaker 3: worried so much about the top lines, but worried about
Speaker 3: what female voters in North Carolina are thinking. That's where
Speaker 3: it becomes to a point where if they're a certain
Speaker 3: part of They're in a certain part of North Carolina.
Speaker 3: They're thinking, I wish I could find some clean water
Speaker 3: for my babies right now.
Speaker 5: That you know what.
Speaker 3: That's going to be one of the interesting states on
Speaker 3: election night for two reasons. Not only for the fact
Speaker 3: that the horrible devastation. I've got a friend of mine
Speaker 3: that lives down there. I was talking to him yesterday
Speaker 3: and just saying, asking how the cleanup's going, Yeah, things
Speaker 3: of that nature. So you have that, but you also
Speaker 3: have Mark Robinson, who is now on an island running
Speaker 3: for governor. And normally you look at can that pull
Speaker 3: a ticket and that do a ticket. You suddenly saw
Speaker 3: the Republicans kind of all, you know, put their hands
Speaker 3: out with him with the problems he had about a
Speaker 3: month ago, and everybody's kind of staying a little bit
Speaker 3: of a distance from him. That's going to be one
Speaker 3: of the states to watch, I think, on election night.
Speaker 3: But I don't know how well the residents of the
Speaker 3: Tarheel State are regarding the efforts of Governor Cooper, the Democrat,
Speaker 3: in the wake of Helene and everything else. I mean,
Speaker 3: there is a lot of resentment towards the federal government
Speaker 3: and the state government. And you compare that to Florida,
Speaker 3: and well, it was different disaster. Ron DeSantis has had
Speaker 3: to deal with multiple hurricanes in his time as governor.
Speaker 2: He does it very well.
Speaker 3: He's got all the procedures in place, he had people positioned.
Speaker 3: What happened in North Carolina was a huge I mean,
Speaker 3: it never happened nominally, it never happens that way in
Speaker 3: the mountains of North Carolina, and it did. And they
Speaker 3: just came off as ill prepared, and the federal government
Speaker 3: their response came off as ill prepared where I thought
Speaker 3: in Florida, you know, they had a lot of devastation,
Speaker 3: a lot of power outages and the like, a lot
Speaker 3: of flooding, but they were ready. Governors are judged in
Speaker 3: the end by how they responded to emergencies. Right, they
Speaker 3: can have this agenda, they can have that agenda, they
Speaker 3: can go through everything. So the island you're talking about
Speaker 3: that Mark Robinson may be on in North Carolina as
Speaker 3: Republicans want to try and stay away from whatever. Piccadillo
Speaker 3: or I didn't even hear what the story was, but
Speaker 3: uh yeah, I think Governor Cooper will be judged and
Speaker 3: not not well by the resident of his state in
Speaker 3: North Carolina because of the response to Helene, that is
Speaker 3: going to be one of the states I think you
Speaker 3: are aren't going to be watching on election night. I
Speaker 3: also think we'll be taking a pretty good look at
Speaker 3: Pennsylvania where they're going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and I.
Speaker 3: Love I love the h I love the line of
Speaker 3: James Carvill Pennsylvania is watch your language. Well, Pennsylvania is
Speaker 3: is Philadelphia and Pittsburgh with Arkansas in the middle. Oh jeez,
Speaker 3: oh you know it's isn't it time for some more
Speaker 3: of these crypt keeper keepers in the Democrat Party to
Speaker 3: just go to go away?
Speaker 2: Oh you gotta admit you.
Speaker 3: Carvell always always is good for a liner to Actually,
Speaker 3: it's always good for a laugh or two.
Speaker 2: Always good for a laugh.
Speaker 3: Indeed, Rick Robinson is our guest on seven hundred W
Speaker 3: l W Tiktoki.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that scene from.
Speaker 3: The Blues Brothers movie is still the best in the diner.
Speaker 3: And she delayed that that over and over and over again,
Speaker 3: Blue Lou coming out with the facts.
Speaker 2: I mean, the whole thing, was it.
Speaker 3: Two hole chickens and four pieces of dry white toast
Speaker 3: was at the order?
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, we're.
Speaker 3: Talking with Rick Robinson on seven hundred WLW. The conversation
Speaker 3: continues and we happen to have Greg Taylor, Rick Robinson's friend,
Speaker 3: who's originally from northern Kentucky as Rick is, and now
Speaker 3: lives in Raleigh, North Carolina.
Speaker 2: Greg. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening.
Speaker 8: How are you, gentlemen? Very well, thank you very well.
Speaker 8: Nice to hear you guys on the other radio this morning.
Speaker 3: So what is going on in the ground in Raleigh,
Speaker 3: North Carolina right now, where you're at in the state
Speaker 3: in general, and how are things coming together if at all?
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I can give you just I can give
Speaker 8: you some anecdotal evidence, and then I can give you
Speaker 8: some kind of inside baseball stuff. A full disclosure. I
Speaker 8: am working for the campaign of how Weatherman, very lightly
Speaker 8: but still involved, and he's running for lieutenant governor against
Speaker 8: Rachel Hunt. So just fyi there, But let me start
Speaker 8: with western North Carolina. The clean up efforts are going
Speaker 8: very well, as as has been reported by some in
Speaker 8: the news. Female was super slow to get there, and
Speaker 8: then once they're super slow to actually get engaged and
Speaker 8: get activated. But religious organizations, the community in general, folks
Speaker 8: from other States, the Cajun Navy, organizations like that were
Speaker 8: just on top of it right away, even some you know,
Speaker 8: prior to the hurricane we're you know, setting up. It
Speaker 8: was really a remarkable response by the on the ground
Speaker 8: folks in the situation where FEMA really wasn't prepared or
Speaker 8: at least unable or or maybe not allowed to participate
Speaker 8: just yet. But that is going well. There's still clean
Speaker 8: up efforts that are needed in the smaller communities that
Speaker 8: are not as much in the news like Asheville obviously
Speaker 8: is very very very highly covered in the surrounding communities,
Speaker 8: but there are still, you know, outlying towns that are
Speaker 8: in need of response. And my church group is actually
Speaker 8: meeting Tuesday to organize some of that. So so we're
Speaker 8: still at it.
Speaker 2: But Rick, Rick here, how you doing man very well, sir?
Speaker 3: Going into those counties in western North Carolina. What are
Speaker 3: they saying with regards to polling places? Are they putting
Speaker 3: in special places to vote? How are they how are
Speaker 3: they doing that down.
Speaker 2: There right now?
Speaker 8: So good question there. It's a little bit hit and
Speaker 8: miss right now. There have been organized efforts to make
Speaker 8: sure people are able to vote, and the reports we're
Speaker 8: getting so far is actually early voting is being There's
Speaker 8: been a very very high turnout of early voting. People
Speaker 8: are making their way to the early early voting polling
Speaker 8: places and it is going very well.
Speaker 3: The second question that I had as Gary, Jeff and
Speaker 3: I were sitting here this morning and really trying to
Speaker 3: dissect where some of the places were, one of the
Speaker 3: things we talked about was Mark Robinson and what's going
Speaker 3: on with his situation.
Speaker 8: Well, I like to find comedy in everything in life.
Speaker 2: Although good call me too.
Speaker 8: Yeah, this one's a tricky one. It's it's interesting. Mark
Speaker 8: when he ran four years ago, was a breath of
Speaker 8: fresh air and a you know, bombastic fun guy to
Speaker 8: listen to, and he really garnered a lot of attention.
Speaker 8: And now he is non existent. I mean he obviously
Speaker 8: campaign ads are still running Josh who I do know.
Speaker 8: Not not a big fan of Josh Stein at all
Speaker 8: for a variety of reasons. But Josh is going to
Speaker 8: be our governor. Mark is irrelevant. In fact, even local
Speaker 8: news that they're almost not even covering the campaign. It's
Speaker 8: just a complete non issue. He's he's evaporated from all
Speaker 8: Republican existence.
Speaker 2: To my viewing here, Well, what what kind of a
Speaker 2: man is Josh Stein?
Speaker 8: Well, Josh is a political achiever.
Speaker 2: Another one of those fantastic.
Speaker 8: Well, he is, in my in my opinion, duplicitous and
Speaker 8: very politically oriented. And as an attorney general you have
Speaker 8: a lot of power to silence critics of your side.
Speaker 8: So I've evidenced that. And you know, you know wood Cooper,
Speaker 8: as much as I'm not a huge fan of what
Speaker 8: he did, an okay job. So if Josh comes in
Speaker 8: and really governs for the you know, one of the people,
Speaker 8: and doesn't have a really targeted, negative, attacking political agenda,
Speaker 8: I think they'll do fine. But as attorney general, he
Speaker 8: was not a in my experience, not a very fair person.
Speaker 3: Well, I am glad that your church group and and
Speaker 3: others like it. My wife and I donated to Samaritan's
Speaker 3: Purse almost immediately when this this happened, When Helene happened
Speaker 3: to North Carolina, I just couldn't sit on the sidelines.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess the other thing we could have
Speaker 3: done is get in a car and go down there
Speaker 3: to see if we could help.
Speaker 2: But we didn't do that.
Speaker 8: But well, don't don't don't worry about that. I tried
Speaker 8: to actually volunteer with my son for Samaritan's Purse, and
Speaker 8: there was such an outpouring of volunteerism. You have to
Speaker 8: schedule it because it is very organized. And the first
Speaker 8: time they had we tried like days after the event,
Speaker 8: and they were booked out until mid November. So it
Speaker 8: was all hands on deck efforts. So don't don't that
Speaker 8: all feel bad about.
Speaker 2: Not going this recovery.
Speaker 3: This recovery is going to be a year's long process, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, oh yeah, you don't snap your fingers and
Speaker 3: recover from a thousand year natural disaster in a couple
Speaker 3: of months.
Speaker 2: So there's a long road out.
Speaker 8: Well, just to give you some perspective, a couple maybe two, three,
Speaker 8: four days after, you know, the major part of the event,
Speaker 8: I forty the the East West Corridor obviously getting from
Speaker 8: my part of the state in Raleigh and then Eve
Speaker 8: they used to hear over to the mountains and even
Speaker 8: through into Tennessee. About halfway there, there was an interstate
Speaker 8: time that simply said all roads in western North Carolina
Speaker 8: are closed. Uh, that was pretty ominous.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine, I really can't.
Speaker 3: That's well, keep doing the Lord's work and keep your
Speaker 3: head up and luck on the campaign again, good luck
Speaker 3: on the campaign.
Speaker 5: It's almost May, just May.
Speaker 8: If I may make one very statistical oriented comment. Sure,
Speaker 8: North Carolina has ten and a half million residents. As
Speaker 8: of this morning, I saw two point seven million people
Speaker 8: have voted early. So that's twenty five percent of the state.
Speaker 8: And four years ago when you ask people if they
Speaker 8: voted early, some people would say, oh, yeah, I forgot
Speaker 8: you could vote early. Yeah, I guess maybe I will.
Speaker 8: Now it is have you voted early? When are you
Speaker 8: voting early? Where are you going? Here's the best place
Speaker 8: to vote. It is a very focused effort. So I'm
Speaker 8: very impressed with the turnout and I think that vodes
Speaker 8: well for the Red candidates.
Speaker 3: All Right, thank you, Greg, appreciate the phone call. Nice
Speaker 3: to get in touch with somebody from North Carolina. Right,
Speaker 3: Glad you were able to call in the belly of
Speaker 3: the beast, so to speak. You were talking about because
Speaker 3: a lot of people have said we need to go
Speaker 3: back to voting not only just on election day, but
Speaker 3: to paper ballots, and you say paper ballots are more
Speaker 3: rife with the possibilities of fraud than what we have now. Rick,
Speaker 3: If you look into if you look into Kentucky's history
Speaker 3: of true election rigging, when people would throw ballots on
Speaker 3: the bottom or a top, it all comes around to
Speaker 3: paper ballots. Anybody who knows the history of Kentucky, go
Speaker 3: back around all of it, can do that. I actually
Speaker 3: had to deal with it one time in one of
Speaker 3: the races with Senator Bunning. I can't remember if it
Speaker 3: was the first one or the second one, when he
Speaker 3: was running for US Senate. And on election night you
Speaker 3: put people in all these different counties to call in
Speaker 3: the results, so you know when you can go down
Speaker 3: and accept the nominal, you know, except the victory. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so in a very tight race. Both times at Gym
Speaker 3: one we were very tight. We always called him landside
Speaker 3: fly Bunning after that. Very tight races. And if we're
Speaker 3: coming down, there's one county in western Kentucky that we
Speaker 3: cannot figure out what the result is. We're calling our
Speaker 3: people down there, we're calling the courthouse. We can't get
Speaker 3: any result.
Speaker 2: County.
Speaker 3: We should win sixty forty, but you never know, we're
Speaker 3: holding off going downstairs. This is all paper ballots. It's
Speaker 3: all paper counted paper back count of paper ballots. So
Speaker 3: we end up calling somebody from the county next door.
Speaker 3: Can you drive over to the x y Z County
Speaker 3: Courthouse and see what's going on. They ride over, they
Speaker 3: call back, laughing their fanny off because what is that?
Speaker 3: What had happened was that he said, oh, hell you,
Speaker 3: you guys won this county by by three thousand votes. Uh,
Speaker 3: why is nobody really funny? Well, every time they try
Speaker 3: to start counting the ballots for the for the county sheriff,
Speaker 3: and every time they try and open up the abbs
Speaker 3: and tees, another fist fight breaks out because everybody wants
Speaker 3: to know how many ballots.
Speaker 2: Having fist fights? Yeah, counting the ballots.
Speaker 3: They said there was literally blood on the floor because
Speaker 3: every time they tried to open the abs andees, because
Speaker 3: everybody wanted to know how many they had to slide
Speaker 3: on the bottom to win. I mean when I ran
Speaker 3: in eighty eight, I went down to a county and
Speaker 3: along the river, I was told, you know that if
Speaker 3: I wanted to win the county, I could, I would
Speaker 3: be I would have to bring, uh, get a hold
Speaker 3: of some paper ballots, help them get ahold of some
Speaker 3: paper ballots, and then give them five thousand dollars and
Speaker 3: five dollar bills.
Speaker 2: You're kidding me. I am not kidding you.
Speaker 3: So if you wanted to win, bring the extra paper
Speaker 3: ballots and bring your cash.
Speaker 2: Yes, and we can make that happen for you.
Speaker 3: And I told them, absolutely not, And I was so
Speaker 3: glad that's one of the counties I actually want. There
Speaker 3: weren't many of them, Gary Jeff, but I won that
Speaker 3: damn county.
Speaker 2: Well, you know.
Speaker 3: And here's the other thing, Rick Robinson, our guest on
Speaker 3: seven hundred WLW. Here's the other thing about this is
Speaker 3: that people are wanting to go back to the you
Speaker 3: say the bad old days. I say the good old
Speaker 3: days of paper ballots hand counted. Because of all of
Speaker 3: the questions that were raised about twenty twenty and the
Speaker 3: questions that have been raised, you know, both political parties
Speaker 3: have put lawyers all over the country to immediately file
Speaker 3: grievances about election results. From Arizona to Maine. There are
Speaker 3: lawyers from both sides, from a Republican and Democrat, who
Speaker 3: are there on the ground, ready to file lawsuits against
Speaker 3: the results of the election in this county or that
Speaker 3: county or that city.
Speaker 2: You know that, oh absolutely. And there are also.
Speaker 3: Still questions by many about about the electronic voting machines
Speaker 3: and about the computer algorithms that people's claim switched votes
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty from a Trump to a Biden.
Speaker 2: And via did you ever hear of the great name
Speaker 2: from Kentucky politics, Ed Prichard? No?
Speaker 3: No, who's Ed Pritchard is what probably was the smartest,
Speaker 3: one of the smartest people that ever lived. Okay, he
Speaker 3: was part of the FDR's think tank. He was part
Speaker 3: of the folks when the Grams were running the Washington Post.
Speaker 3: He was their wonder child coming up photographic memory. Anything
Speaker 3: you said to him, he would remember. The guy was phenomenal.
Speaker 3: Was they were bringing him back from after law school,
Speaker 3: after he spent some time in Washington working in the administration,
Speaker 3: they bring him back to Kentucky and he ends up
Speaker 3: helping fix a race for circuit court judge in Paris, Kentucky.
Speaker 3: And when I say helps fix it, yeah, how do
Speaker 3: we help fix it? It was paper flipped on the bottom.
Speaker 3: And you know what it was about. Everybody knew that
Speaker 3: the judge was going to win, but the bunch of
Speaker 3: the city founders had money bets on by how much,
Speaker 3: and they had young Ed Pritcher go down and put
Speaker 3: ballots on the bottom so they could win the win.
Speaker 2: The bet.
Speaker 3: Edwin to federal prison had a civil rights script from him,
Speaker 3: and again the most brilliant mind in the history maybe
Speaker 3: of Kentucky that there are some pretty brilliant minds at
Speaker 3: work trying to fix this election rig it, so to speak.
Speaker 3: I guess, just closing out, I think that we're all
Speaker 3: at a point. I mean, aren't you fatigued with this?
Speaker 3: Our national nightmare is nearly over right, but then it
Speaker 3: just doesn't It just begin again and spin up again
Speaker 3: as soon as the elections over, oh yeah, and we
Speaker 3: go into another presidential campaign. I don't want professional politicians.
Speaker 3: I don't want to fail up candidate, and I certainly
Speaker 3: don't want to have this NonStop election cycle that never ends.
Speaker 3: It's not supposed to be that way, but it has
Speaker 3: turned into that in this country. Are there any solutions,
Speaker 3: any outs from those bugaboos in our political life where
Speaker 3: you know, professional candidates or politicians because that's what they
Speaker 3: decided to do for a living, not the way it
Speaker 3: was supposed to be. Election cycles that never end, not
Speaker 3: the way it was supposed to be. I always want
Speaker 3: to love do I always love reading the Federalist papers
Speaker 3: because they give such insight to what the founders were
Speaker 3: thinking at the time. And there's one of the papers
Speaker 3: was written that was written by Madison talks about Titians
Speaker 3: and the country being based upon this citizen leader legislator
Speaker 3: who goes.
Speaker 2: To Washington citizens law's job.
Speaker 3: And then comes back to run his business or farm, farm,
Speaker 3: or whatever. And it's a brilliant paper, except at the
Speaker 3: very end, Madison says basically, or then again, the opposite
Speaker 3: might happen.
Speaker 2: Jeez, and it did.
Speaker 3: You know, I just look at these suits that are
Speaker 3: born to get votes and get elected, and I just
Speaker 3: have a great distaste for all of that, for what
Speaker 3: it has become in this country. I wish it had
Speaker 3: gone the other way. I wish that we had real
Speaker 3: citizen lawmakers who went and served their country instead of
Speaker 3: served themselves and then went home and resumed their jobs.
Speaker 3: But we have people like Kamala Harris whose only job
Speaker 3: has ever been McDonald's side in politics, and they're all over.
Speaker 2: They got Washington is full of them.
Speaker 3: It has been something that has been going on since
Speaker 3: the times of the Federalist papers, that people have gotten
Speaker 3: into the Washington crowd are gotten into whatever it is,
Speaker 3: and that's what it happens. You know, one of the
Speaker 3: things I think you're going to see in this race
Speaker 3: is is there a repudiation of that concept? Oh too
Speaker 3: early to tell. I certainly hope and pray so. Rick Robinson,
Speaker 3: thank you for your time, my friend. Always a pleasure.
Speaker 3: Gary Jesse, you on election now, see on election night.
Speaker 3: I'll be right here with you at ten o'clock when
Speaker 3: we start talking about that. Anybody wants to pick up
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Speaker 3: my daisy dukes bingo. I don't wear daisy dukes, but
Speaker 3: I love listening to Bill Cunningham.
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Speaker 2: Can you picture Bill Cunningham wearing daisy dukes? No, no, no, no, yes,
Speaker 2: I can.
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Speaker 3: WLW And in this half hour we are focusing on
Speaker 3: one of my favorite topics, music history and valuable vinyl
Speaker 3: with our friend Mighty John Marshall from moneymusic dot Com
Speaker 3: who was joining us as I mentioned for this half
Speaker 3: hour with a brand new top ten list. Moneymusic dot
Speaker 3: Com is a service where you can get appraisals on
Speaker 3: over a million titles of vinyl. And if you still
Speaker 3: have vinyl, you know you got the the attic, the basement,
Speaker 3: maybe your front room with your brand new turntable that
Speaker 3: you just bought because you were going to relive your
Speaker 3: vinyl experience. Or you go to yard sales or flea markets.
Speaker 3: Here's what to look for and you may have some
Speaker 3: what you think is valuable vinyl there in your collection.
Speaker 3: A lot of people think that stuff and most of
Speaker 3: the time they're wrong. John Marshall, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: How are you. It's good to talk to you again.
Speaker 5: Hey Gary, Jeff, I'm great. Hope you are too, all right.
Speaker 3: You scared up a list for October of top ten
Speaker 3: songs or albums or forty five's worth one hundred dollars
Speaker 3: and more. At the top of the list, we did
Speaker 3: not find a song from this fine collection from nineteen
Speaker 3: seventy six. We have Jimmy Buffett at number ten, correct right, one.
Speaker 5: Of his early albums called Hi Cumberland Jubilee. Current Valley
Speaker 5: for the album up to one hundred dollars, and I.
Speaker 3: Bet you didn't pay one hundred dollars for it when
Speaker 3: you bought that in nineteen seventy six.
Speaker 5: I think Party two ninety eight would have been the price.
Speaker 3: This song was a song of the year and it's
Speaker 3: one of the most recorded songs ever. The original version
Speaker 3: by John, Paul, George and Ringo and it's really just
Speaker 3: Paul tell me about number.
Speaker 5: Nine, Yeah Yesterday by the Beatles. They get all the credit,
Speaker 5: but you're right. Only Paul McCartney is on the record
Speaker 5: with its picture sleeve. Current value up to one hundred
Speaker 5: dollars and we always mentioned those picture sleeves. They were
Speaker 5: always worth more by themselves than the actual record, in
Speaker 5: this case, up to about twenty five dollars for the record,
Speaker 5: up to seventy five dollars for the picture sleeve, for
Speaker 5: a total of one hundred bucks. Oh my trouble seems
Speaker 5: so far way.
Speaker 2: Loud, looks as tho there he stay, Oh be yesterday sudden.
Speaker 2: I'm not half the man I used to be? Does
Speaker 2: the shadow on.
Speaker 3: How many people covered that record? Good song number eight
Speaker 3: on the money music dot Com list out in October
Speaker 3: A valuable vinyl is an album And I actually, as
Speaker 3: a kid, either stole this from a friend's older brother
Speaker 3: or he gave it to me. I think he gave
Speaker 3: it to me, but the statue of limitations has run out. Regardless,
Speaker 3: tell me about number eight.
Speaker 5: It's Santana. The second album was Santana a Praxis. Now
Speaker 5: this came with a poster. If you kept that poster
Speaker 5: makes the album worth up to one hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 5: Without the poster it drops down to fifty dollars a practically,
Speaker 5: but you.
Speaker 2: Have to have the poster to get one hundred.
Speaker 3: And this was actually an early Bleetwood Max song that
Speaker 3: Carlos and Bands covered and turned into a huge hit,
Speaker 3: The Black Magical Woman. Moneymusic dot COM's mighty John Marshall
Speaker 3: is with us this morning. Valuable vinyl and the October
Speaker 3: list is in our sights and John first and foremost.
Speaker 3: As I mentioned, over a million titles, you guys can
Speaker 3: give appraisals to with the information you have money music
Speaker 3: dot com. Tell me how people do that?
Speaker 5: A flash drive? Okay, yeah, go to moneymusic dot com
Speaker 5: the flash drive that we put it on. We'll list
Speaker 5: the values for over a million records by over seventy
Speaker 5: five thousand different recording artists. Or you could have any
Speaker 5: record appraised online for a dollar. And with that appraisal
Speaker 5: we always include a list of buyers or potential buyers
Speaker 5: in your own area.
Speaker 2: That is key right there.
Speaker 3: Well, we mentioned beatles and we have another beatle in
Speaker 3: the spotlight with this next record on the list.
Speaker 2: Tell me about it.
Speaker 5: Well, not much of a hit with John Lennon, but
Speaker 5: a very valuable forty five called Mother with its spicuous
Speaker 5: lead up to one hundred fifty dollars.
Speaker 2: All right, you.
Speaker 4: You did one?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: This was uh, this was nineteen seventy so John was
Speaker 3: still doing Heroin and on his way for the Lost
Speaker 3: Weekend when Yoko kicked him out of the house. But
Speaker 3: that's about the same timeframe that Mother was released.
Speaker 5: There's not about his mother. No, he didn't do a
Speaker 5: song about his mother and a jewels on the what
Speaker 5: is known as the White.
Speaker 2: Album Julia, which is a was a beautiful song. By
Speaker 2: the way.
Speaker 3: What's next on your top ten list of valuable vinyl
Speaker 3: at money music dot com.
Speaker 5: John the Great, Tom Petty Echoes and name of his
Speaker 5: album from nineteen ninety nine. Current value for the album
Speaker 5: up to two hundred.
Speaker 2: Dollars excellent And next on the list, well, there's an invention.
Speaker 5: Everything by Frank Zapper is worth money. This one uncle
Speaker 5: Meat the name of the album, current value up to
Speaker 5: three hundred dollars uncle meat. Uncle meat.
Speaker 3: I've never heard uncle meat. And we should have found that, liamb.
Speaker 3: We should have found uncle meat by Frank zappraa. But
Speaker 3: you say everything by Zappa is and it's not because
Speaker 3: he is passed on. No, it's just because it's rather
Speaker 3: obscure and he's so innovative, you know, so curiosity right,
Speaker 3: exactly how much how much will a dynamo home.
Speaker 2: Get you.
Speaker 5: We don't know, not three hundred dollars, not three hundred.
Speaker 2: Dollars, all right.
Speaker 3: Next up on the list, we have the We've had
Speaker 3: the Beatles, well at least Paul McCartney. We've had John Lennon.
Speaker 3: How about one from the prefab four as they were called,
Speaker 3: The Monkeys, the.
Speaker 5: Monkeys, big album for them, The Birds, the Bees and
Speaker 5: the Monkeys. The value all depends on whether you have
Speaker 5: in stereo or mono. A stereo copy up to twenty
Speaker 5: five dollars. A mono copy of The Birds, the Bees
Speaker 5: and the Monkey's currently up to six hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 3: Whoa, and people have some mono copies of the Monkeys,
Speaker 3: the Birds, the Bees and the Monkeys.
Speaker 5: I know they do.
Speaker 2: Yes, there's a little selection. Davy Jones, I.
Speaker 9: Could time meet the wings of the blue bird as
Speaker 9: she seen.
Speaker 10: The six o'clock would never.
Speaker 9: Book six and then flight to sleep by the mile
Speaker 9: macheven vsus Coon and esteem.
Speaker 2: Want smart would feeling everybody chee the gut to JG.
Speaker 10: You want took me a wide not on his team?
Speaker 10: Now you know how happy how can be?
Speaker 3: We're al so happy with the monkeys and your monkey's
Speaker 3: lunchbox and your monkey's poster, your monkey's album and mono
Speaker 3: worth up to six hundred and fifty bucks.
Speaker 1: We have.
Speaker 2: Elvis in Concert next, right.
Speaker 5: Nineteen seventy seven. One of the last albums released for
Speaker 5: was Elvis in Concert. Now. The value here depends on
Speaker 5: the color of the label on the record. If it's
Speaker 5: a blue record label, up to twenty five dollars. But
Speaker 5: if it's a black record label, then you're looking up
Speaker 5: to six hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: Wow, the elby going through a body and account of
Speaker 2: jail man began to swing, had a knockdowntail band.
Speaker 3: All right, Gary tamps in for a Scotch loan with
Speaker 3: mighty John Marshall from Money music dot Com may have
Speaker 3: time for a couple of phone calls if you've got
Speaker 3: some valuable vinyl questions that John could answer for free
Speaker 3: here in the next six or seven minutes. Let's go
Speaker 3: down the list though, the top ten list from moneymusic
Speaker 3: dot com. And by the way, how's the YouTube show going?
Speaker 2: John? You still doing that?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I've got a new video coming out pretty soon.
Speaker 5: We filmed it and recorded it last week and we're
Speaker 5: patching it together as we speak.
Speaker 2: All right, people can just find that under what well.
Speaker 5: You can go to my website the links right there,
Speaker 5: all right for our YouTube channel, all right.
Speaker 3: Up next on the list is a group that had
Speaker 3: about fourteen farewell tours over the course of twenty or
Speaker 3: thirty years.
Speaker 5: Kiss Kiss the very first album simply called Kiss noc.
Speaker 7: You have a copy, and.
Speaker 5: It contains the song kissing Time. No more than twenty dollars,
Speaker 5: but if it does not contain kissing Time, then you're
Speaker 5: looking up to seven hundred and fifty dollars. All right.
Speaker 5: The first issues did not contain Kissing Time, and those
Speaker 5: are the ones you want to look for.
Speaker 2: If it doesn't have kissing Time, you want the Kiss album.
Speaker 5: You got it.
Speaker 2: It's valuable, all right.
Speaker 3: And then the number one list before we get to
Speaker 3: the Halloween stuff, is a record I worked with this
Speaker 3: guy named Chuck Britton here in town who said, when
Speaker 3: he was in college in Michigan, his roommate was the
Speaker 3: drummer for this band, and he said that this guy
Speaker 3: in their dorm played this song over and over and
Speaker 3: over again they're in the dorm, and finally one day
Speaker 3: Chuck got sick of it as it was playing again,
Speaker 3: and not only tossed the record but the whole turntable
Speaker 3: out the third story window and said.
Speaker 5: Enough, well, I wish he had kept the record. Any Wait,
Speaker 5: now I know Kiddy, question Mark and the Mysterians ninety
Speaker 5: six tiers a rock and roll classic. The value here
Speaker 5: all depends on what record label you have it on.
Speaker 5: On Cameo records up to twenty five dollars.
Speaker 7: But on the.
Speaker 5: Original label Go Go, then you're looking up to eight
Speaker 5: hundred dollars for ninety sixty.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, and you got some Halloween bonus records
Speaker 3: that that everybody will know. And like we've got the
Speaker 3: late Warren Zevon on this list of valuable virus.
Speaker 5: This is a picture disc picture disc with a picture
Speaker 5: of a werewolf on the vinyl itself Werewolve's of London.
Speaker 5: Current value up to one hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: Oh so where Wolf Trader Vince his hair was perfect?
Speaker 7: I'm not aware Wolf of the Chinese menu in his hand,
Speaker 7: knocking through the streets of Soho in the rain.
Speaker 2: He was looking for a place called the Ho Fooks
Speaker 2: to get a big tell me.
Speaker 3: London, all right, As we continue our countdown with Halloween nine,
Speaker 3: just Thursday night.
Speaker 2: We're just days away.
Speaker 3: There are a couple other spooctacular songs on the money
Speaker 3: music dot Com list will or albums that we will
Speaker 3: recount for you here in just a moment. But John, uh,
Speaker 3: what is the most traditionally and and you've got the
Speaker 3: list of certain types of music, what's more valuable?
Speaker 2: And vinyl?
Speaker 3: We always when when when we open up the phones,
Speaker 3: you and I are talking, people always call up with
Speaker 3: the Leonard skinnerd Street survivors with the flames and and
Speaker 3: you know, it turns out they don't have anything of value.
Speaker 3: What's really valuable when it comes to vinyl?
Speaker 5: Well, one of my most genres, rock and roll is
Speaker 5: certainly the number one category. Jazz can be just as collectible.
Speaker 5: The only problem is for every collector ever, say one
Speaker 5: thousand collectors of rock and roll, maybe there's a one
Speaker 5: collector of jazz. So it's kind of tough to find
Speaker 5: buyers sometimes. But a lot of jazz can be extremely collectible.
Speaker 5: Do Wop, blues, British invasion, motown, surf music all fall
Speaker 5: under the category of rock and roll, and all can
Speaker 5: be very collectible, depending on the recording artists and how
Speaker 5: rare it is.
Speaker 2: And the pre World War two blues or jazz.
Speaker 5: Records, Yeah, pre World War two blues, especially blues records
Speaker 5: came out prior to World War Two, are probably among
Speaker 5: the most valuable records out there, many of them self
Speaker 5: for as much as ten to fifteen thousand dollars. And
Speaker 5: you can kind of tell because usually they'll have the
Speaker 5: word blues somewhere in the title. Of course. Robert Johnson,
Speaker 5: the father of the Blues, his big hit hell Hound
Speaker 5: on My Trail, can certainly go up to ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: All right, A couple more spooky soundtracks here to get
Speaker 3: in before we're done. What you got from nineteen sixty
Speaker 3: four The RC Adams.
Speaker 5: Family the original soundtrack on RCA The Adams Family currently
Speaker 5: up to one hundred fifty dollars.
Speaker 3: Now, didn't John didn't Ted Lang, who played Lurch on
Speaker 3: The Adams Family have a hit or a song that
Speaker 3: was out of forty five that they released as.
Speaker 2: A Tidy Teddy. That's right, Ted Lang was on the
Speaker 2: Love Vote, Ted Cassidy.
Speaker 5: Lurch tell me about that, Yeah, dog, the Lurch Ted
Speaker 5: Cassidy with it pictures Leap that can go up to
Speaker 5: around two hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 2: Well, there you go.
Speaker 3: And if you're going to include the Adams family, you
Speaker 3: got to include the other TV scary family in the
Speaker 3: list too.
Speaker 2: Uh, tell me about the Monsters Man the Monsters.
Speaker 5: The value for the album is strictly one for the cover.
Speaker 5: Doesn't matter whether you have the record or not, because
Speaker 5: it's just generic surf music they played during the show.
Speaker 5: The Monsters cover up to three dollars.
Speaker 2: Mighty John Marshall, thank you so much. It's great to
Speaker 2: talk to you again.
Speaker 3: And if you want to find out if you've got
Speaker 3: a if you've got a vinyl collection you're interested in collecting,
Speaker 3: give into yard sales. Check out moneymusic dot com and
Speaker 3: look for the YouTube shows and everything else.
Speaker 2: Great stuff.
Speaker 3: All was from Mighty John Marshall from moneymusic dot com.
Speaker 3: Let's let's just play out, Liam, we come back. Dave
Speaker 3: Hatterill join us for the last half hour on seven
Speaker 3: hundred WLW. Good Morning, Gary, jeff in for Sloni up
Speaker 3: until noon and then Willie walks in the Great American
Speaker 3: to make your day. One of the people that I
Speaker 3: really really respect. After having just years and years of
Speaker 3: empirical data to show that he is absolutely on point
Speaker 3: with everything in the Internet of Things world. Is tech
Speaker 3: expert Dave Hatter, So we have him back for a conversation.
Speaker 3: Mister Hatter, Mad Hatter, how are you today? How does
Speaker 3: the day find you?
Speaker 7: You know, Gary, Jeff, I can't complain, how about you?
Speaker 3: You know what, It's just part of the part of
Speaker 3: God's great plan. And then I will then I will
Speaker 3: continue to see what God has next for me. And
Speaker 3: I think God believes and breaks every once in a while.
Speaker 3: But anyway, in the Internet of Things tech world, which
Speaker 3: you and I discuss on a regular there are all
Speaker 3: kinds of things that people need to look out for.
Speaker 3: It is a continual process, and you continue to track
Speaker 3: these stories down to let people know before they sign
Speaker 3: up for that app, before they agree to those terms
Speaker 3: of service. You probably would want to read those terms
Speaker 3: of service, although most people do not, And you'd like
Speaker 3: to know what little pitfalls await you when you're engaging
Speaker 3: in all of this wonderful technology. There is something called
Speaker 3: z scaler. I don't know what z scaler is. Is
Speaker 3: this something I should be concerned about?
Speaker 2: And what is what are.
Speaker 3: Two hundred malicious look alike domains for every one impersonated brand.
Speaker 3: So what are they saying in essence here?
Speaker 7: Dave, Yeah, Gary, Jeff. Here's the here's the short end
Speaker 7: of it, which is z Scaler is a cybersecurity company.
Speaker 7: They do a variety of different things, but they did
Speaker 7: a study and like many of these larger cybersecurity companies
Speaker 7: out there, you know, Microsoft puts out a big study
Speaker 7: every year, Verizon puts out a study. These things are
Speaker 7: useful for folks like me who work in the field,
Speaker 7: like an interust you know, we look at these things
Speaker 7: to try to figure out what what might we be
Speaker 7: missing in terms of how we're support our customers. You know,
Speaker 7: what additional cybersecurity protections should they be thinking about in
Speaker 7: light of the ever changing landscape out there. I mean
Speaker 7: you mentioned it before. Sadly, the bad guys are really smart,
Speaker 7: really creative, really devious. They're constantly changing their tactics and
Speaker 7: while this lookalike domain idea isn't new, it continues to
Speaker 7: be a big problem. So per this z Scaler study,
Speaker 7: they've said that of five hundred major brands, you can
Speaker 7: think of a lookalike domain. Sometimes it's called a doppelganger domain.
Speaker 7: You know, I'll go out, use a tool to copy
Speaker 7: your website, set it up on a server somewhere with
Speaker 7: a domain that looks to the naked eye, either very
Speaker 7: similar or exactly like your domain. So you get a
Speaker 7: phishing email or a text or whatever from me as
Speaker 7: a bad guy, you click a link, it takes you
Speaker 7: to a page or an entire website that looks exactly
Speaker 7: like the real thing, and in many cases, again to
Speaker 7: the naked eye, there's no way to tell. And you know,
Speaker 7: if you look at the details of this study, it
Speaker 7: shows you how common this is. And that's why I'm
Speaker 7: glad you brought this up as a topic. It's so
Speaker 7: important for people to realize. Firstly, anything on the Internet
Speaker 7: can be spoofed, whether it's an email address, it's a
Speaker 7: phone number, it's a text message, or it's a whole website.
Speaker 7: As we see here, it's really easy to do this.
Speaker 7: And sadly, because of this is so easy, you know,
Speaker 7: people fall prey to your scam. So just being aware
Speaker 7: that because something looks right to you doesn't necessarily mean
Speaker 7: it is. You know, you need a healthy dose of skepticism,
Speaker 7: and this study just shows how common this particular approach is.
Speaker 3: Well, it'd be Let's say, look at you talk about
Speaker 3: impersonated brands. You would look at say a bottle of coke,
Speaker 3: for example, but it's not coke, but it has the
Speaker 3: same script on the label, and it has the same
Speaker 3: colors as a bottle of coke. And I mean Coca
Speaker 3: Cola would be suing those people because they were impersonating
Speaker 3: their brand in such a an obvious way. But this
Speaker 3: is on This is on a on a website or
Speaker 3: on an internet brand, so it's the same thing.
Speaker 7: That's a good analogy, Grey, Jeff. I mean the goal
Speaker 7: of the bad guys is to you know, I in
Speaker 7: many cases literary copy the full website of an existing organization,
Speaker 7: set it up on another server registered domain name. Like
Speaker 7: they may use the crylic character that looks like the
Speaker 7: English character A, so to the naked eye, you're not
Speaker 7: going to notice the difference. Now, there's software out there
Speaker 7: that can potentially detect these kinds of things, but you
Speaker 7: know that costs more money. It costs friction. People don't
Speaker 7: know how to install that sort of stuff. So you
Speaker 7: get you get an email, hey your package is delayed
Speaker 7: or whatever it is. It's you know, super a great
Speaker 7: deal on product decks. You click the link, it takes
Speaker 7: you to one of these lookalike aka doppelganger website and
Speaker 7: without you know, special software that's attempting to detect these
Speaker 7: and keep you from landing on them, which is difficult
Speaker 7: because new ones are set up all the time. I mean,
Speaker 7: just look at the scale of his study, right, thirty
Speaker 7: thousand of these things, and they'll pop it up all
Speaker 7: the time. It's a it's a difficult challenge as a
Speaker 7: defender against this sort of thing because it's easy to
Speaker 7: do for the bad guy, it's effective obviously, or they
Speaker 7: stop doing it, and you know, the scale of it
Speaker 7: is difficult to take on because new ones are coming
Speaker 7: in all the time. So besides getting software like Cisco
Speaker 7: Umbrella are something that can filter non malicious sites. I
Speaker 7: help you does the skepticism and understanding that just because
Speaker 7: something looks legit does not mean that it is and
Speaker 7: you should proceed with caution. You know, I hate that
Speaker 7: we're always the deemsday guys here Gary, Jeff, But you know, sadly,
Speaker 7: these scams are very effective and people are losing them
Speaker 7: lots of money. If you don't believe me, go see
Speaker 7: what the FBI says, and their annual report on cyberclot
Speaker 7: which is also worth reading because they're getting insight into
Speaker 7: the kind of things you.
Speaker 5: Need to be on the look out for.
Speaker 3: Well, there are all kinds of scams, and not all
Speaker 3: of them are on the internet. Sometimes you're getting calls
Speaker 3: on your phone. This happened last week. My wife and
Speaker 3: I just sitting around and she gets a call. Didn't
Speaker 3: know the number, and they claimed they were from our bank,
Speaker 3: US Bank, and they were just confirming that we had
Speaker 3: made one thousand dollars purchase on our account. They were
Speaker 3: just checking to make sure if this was a legitimate purchase.
Speaker 3: We hadn't made any thousand dollars purchases. And while she's
Speaker 3: on the phone, we're also checking our online banking. No,
Speaker 3: there's no thousand dollars. People are often tripped up by
Speaker 3: these phone calls, thinking that their bank is looking after it,
Speaker 3: and I guess banks do sometimes verify a large purchase
Speaker 3: or whatever.
Speaker 2: But I was listening to the voice on the end
Speaker 2: of the line.
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 3: Just listening to her him address my wife like he
Speaker 3: knew her. When I just said, you know what, just
Speaker 3: hang up, it's a scam, she said.
Speaker 2: I think so too. How often does that all the time.
Speaker 7: I'll tell you a real world story that happened to
Speaker 7: myself and my wife here, very similar to what you
Speaker 7: just described. But I would point out that folks, you know,
Speaker 7: first off, how would some bad guy know what bank
Speaker 7: you use? Well, it could be because, for example, your
Speaker 7: information has been leaked slash stolen from companies like National
Speaker 7: publicay Data, which is a background check company.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 7: Think to your listening audience out there, think about the
Speaker 7: very sensitive information you would give up as part of
Speaker 7: a background check. All the places you've lived, all the
Speaker 7: places you work, all kinds of information. So when that
Speaker 7: information gets stolen or eleaked, it gives the bad guys
Speaker 7: a treasure trove of information to use to impersonate someone
Speaker 7: that you actually do business with or interact with on
Speaker 7: a regular basis. Not to mention, they can also go
Speaker 7: somewhere like the Hambleton County Shaff's website, look up a
Speaker 7: real name, and when they call you at some kind
Speaker 7: of scam say I'm starting sucking huts from the Hamletin
Speaker 7: County Shriffs office, you can go to this website right
Speaker 7: here and see me. So again, these data breaches are
Speaker 7: relevant to you as an individual, because it gives the
Speaker 7: bad guys information to use against you, either to impersonate
Speaker 7: you in creating accounts in your name, or to have
Speaker 7: information that would allow them to impersonate someone you work
Speaker 7: with regularly. To make these kinds of scams more legit.
Speaker 7: So we're sitting on accounts, my wife and I. She
Speaker 7: gets a text from our bank USAA claims there's fraud
Speaker 7: on our account.
Speaker 5: Call this number.
Speaker 7: So she again reminds of it's very easy to spoof
Speaker 7: a phone number to go find out what is a
Speaker 7: legitimate number at USAA or us Bank or wherever, and
Speaker 7: send a text message or make a voice call from
Speaker 7: that number. It's very easy, doesn't require any skill or
Speaker 7: our websites you can go to right now and do this.
Speaker 7: So that's the first thing, be aware of spoofing. I
Speaker 7: keep bringing that up because it's unfortunately very easy for
Speaker 7: the bad guys to do. So we get this text,
Speaker 7: she calls the number. I'm sitting there next to her,
Speaker 7: and they start asking questions that to me, they already
Speaker 7: should know the answer to. Here's a tip carry jar.
Speaker 7: If your bank doesn't know your bank account number, it's
Speaker 7: not your bank yeah, or they want you to confirm it. Wait,
Speaker 7: you called me, Why would you need me to confirm
Speaker 7: information when you called me.
Speaker 3: And there was something similar that happened in this phone call,
Speaker 3: and she said, well, you ought to know that, and
Speaker 3: then we knew.
Speaker 7: If they ask for your credentials, here, here's your name
Speaker 7: and passwords so they can reset your password. They do
Speaker 7: not need to know your password if it's your legitimate bank, right,
Speaker 7: So anytime they start asking questions about things, they should
Speaker 7: already know either you're working with a terrible bank and
Speaker 7: you should find a new bank, or you're getting scammed, right,
Speaker 7: so those should be red flags. You know, my wife
Speaker 7: hung up it was death obviously a scam, and thankfully
Speaker 7: we managed to avoid that. But yeah, this happens all
Speaker 7: the time. It's easy to spoof a phone number. It's
Speaker 7: easy to get phone numbers that know that you work
Speaker 7: or company X, Y or Z E because of these
Speaker 7: data breaches or maybe something you posted online. Yeah, sadly,
Speaker 7: people need to be extremely skeptical. And in a scenario
Speaker 7: like that, my advice would be to do what you did,
Speaker 7: hang up, go log into your account and you know,
Speaker 7: check there and or get out your bank statement, or
Speaker 7: find a number once you've logged into your account and
Speaker 7: call using a number that you've used before, something you
Speaker 7: can verify, like from a bank statement. Sure it can't
Speaker 7: be spoofed or scammed.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, here here's another scam.
Speaker 3: Dave Hatter Garras swindled an old man in California out
Speaker 3: of twenty five grand by using AI voice technology to
Speaker 3: claim his son was in horrible accident needed money for bail.
Speaker 3: It was absolutely in the old man's ears. It was
Speaker 3: absolutely his son's voice. And this technology has gotten so
Speaker 3: far advanced the deep fake AI. The voice soundedlike technology.
Speaker 3: It's incredible.
Speaker 7: I just can't stress enough, I think. And this speaks
Speaker 7: to spooting, which we've now talked about numerous times. Right
Speaker 7: if the form of spooping, I could call from any
Speaker 7: number I want and then potentially use this AI voice
Speaker 7: cloning software to calon someone's voice to convince you that
Speaker 7: you're talking to that person. So could I potentially find
Speaker 7: your son's phone number in a data breach because you
Speaker 7: listed him in a background check? Maybe his name and
Speaker 7: phone number?
Speaker 5: Could I call?
Speaker 7: And now most people are going to say, but wait
Speaker 7: a minute, how would you get the Sun's voice. Right,
Speaker 7: And here's my answer to everyone, because you know, I
Speaker 7: think we've talked about this before, Garret, Jeff. I've done
Speaker 7: a couple of TV interviews, one with John mattter Reeves
Speaker 7: where we cloned his voice real time on TV using
Speaker 7: a free tool. Literally went out, found a website that
Speaker 7: claimed to do it, set up an account with no
Speaker 7: previous experience, no experience using that site except for you know,
Speaker 7: forty five minutes before John showed.
Speaker 5: Up, and then you know, no cost. It was a
Speaker 5: free site.
Speaker 7: We cloned his voice. You can watch me tipe in
Speaker 7: what his voice says coming out of my speakers. So
Speaker 7: just technology is absolutely real to your point, it continues
Speaker 7: to improve. This is one of many examples like this.
Speaker 7: But again getting back to well, I'm not a celebrity
Speaker 7: like John matt Reeves. How would you get my voice?
Speaker 7: If I know your phone number, can I call that
Speaker 7: phone number and possibly get a voice greeting of you
Speaker 7: telling me I'm not there? Leave the message maybe and
Speaker 7: if I can guess what I knew you in about
Speaker 7: fifteen minutes, because you only need a few seconds of
Speaker 7: someone's voice in most cases, with Matt a Reeves, he
Speaker 7: literally trained the tool by reading a sentence. But if
Speaker 7: I can download your voice because I can find it
Speaker 7: in a vidiot posted online somewhere, or because I can
Speaker 7: call your phone and hear your voice, I'm you. So
Speaker 7: when people say this could never happen to me, how
Speaker 7: is this possible?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 7: You know this doesn't I don't think they know exactly
Speaker 7: how this all went down. But to your point, the
Speaker 7: guy claims in the interview that you know, it absolutely
Speaker 7: sounded like his son, and unfortunately he was scammed out
Speaker 7: of a lot of money. You know, this is often
Speaker 7: known as the grandparents scam. It's been around for a
Speaker 7: long time. My dad got one of these calls once.
Speaker 7: Now this is probably it was four or five years ago,
Speaker 7: probably before it was any kind of AI involved. Because
Speaker 7: in some cases, you know, they're calling in the middle
Speaker 7: of the night and they say they have a cold
Speaker 7: or whatever. You know, they're social engineering you to catch
Speaker 7: you off guard with some kind of urgency. Right. Typically
Speaker 7: these scams, there's a major problem. It's urgent. You cat
Speaker 7: got to do X. They're trying to get you to
Speaker 7: act before you stop and think about it. But I
Speaker 7: just can't stress enough to folks, this voice cloning deep
Speaker 7: face AI thing is real. There are increasing reports of
Speaker 7: it being used in a variety of different scams, not
Speaker 7: the least of which are on individuals like this poor
Speaker 7: gentleman here who apparently lost twenty five grand as a
Speaker 7: result of it.
Speaker 3: And people who are routinely their voice is routinely out
Speaker 3: in you know, in space like here, on the radio,
Speaker 3: or on TV as you mentioned, or a movie or
Speaker 3: a politician or whatever. For somebody like Bill Cunningham or
Speaker 3: Scott Sloan or a Gary Jeff Walker, it would be
Speaker 3: very easy to just record the show for about five
Speaker 3: minutes and they would have me saying anything and everything.
Speaker 3: The problem with the scammers is that I'm likely to
Speaker 3: say anything at all at any time, so you know,
Speaker 3: I might have a hard time talking myself out of
Speaker 3: being faked like that.
Speaker 7: Well, Jerry, yeah that's a good point.
Speaker 11: But yeah, you're I mean, anyone that's in the public
Speaker 11: eye on a regular basis, you know, audio, video, public speaking,
Speaker 11: et cetera, is potentially going to be at more risk
Speaker 11: because if there's.
Speaker 7: Someone who doesn't have a social media presence short of
Speaker 7: like a voicemail greeting, how would someone get your voice?
Speaker 7: But yeah, it's it's a common tactic. Folks may have
Speaker 7: seen the story, you know that Ferrari was almost had
Speaker 7: a bunch of money stolen using this very technique where
Speaker 7: the quote CEO of Ferrari was, you know, instructing the
Speaker 7: CFO of Ferrari over a phone call after some previous
Speaker 7: messaging to go do something, and eventually the CFO that
Speaker 7: the Chief Finance Office that something's not right here and
Speaker 7: ask the CEO about a book recommendation that the CEO
Speaker 7: had made, which of course the scamer couldn't answer. But yeah,
Speaker 7: we're seeing this both, you know, as a tax on
Speaker 7: corporations as well as a tax on individuals because you know,
Speaker 7: if you can, if you could scam a couple thousand
Speaker 7: dollars out of this individual is a couple of times
Speaker 7: a day if you're in a country where there's no jobs,
Speaker 7: no opportunity, but you got a lot of time on
Speaker 7: your hands and access to the internet, which is where
Speaker 7: so much of this client comes from.
Speaker 2: Southeast Yeah, Southeast Asia.
Speaker 7: Folks really need to be aware that this is a thing. Sadly.
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, well, thank you for spreading the awareness, mister Hatter.
Speaker 2: As always, it's always my pleasure, Gary Jeff.
Speaker 7: And if you live is what right Kentucky vote for
Speaker 7: all six of the incomes for city council.
Speaker 5: Yeah, endorsement.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: The mayor has spoken seven hundred WLW. Just a couple
Speaker 3: of quick things here before we bug out today.
Speaker 2: Did you know, as.
Speaker 3: The arguments continue to pile up in different places, why
Speaker 3: do you have to have a voter I D. Why
Speaker 3: do you have to have an ID to vote? That's racist,
Speaker 3: that's oppressing. And remember when they claim that in Georgia.
Speaker 3: Do you know how many countries in the world as nations.
Speaker 3: You know, here it's left up to the states, as
Speaker 3: nations require a voter ID and require you to be
Speaker 3: a citizen of said country to vote in said election. Iceland, Sweden,
Speaker 3: New Zealand, Denmark, Canada, Ireland, Switzerland, Finland, Australia, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Germany, Austria, Malta, UK, Spain, Mauritius, Uruguay, Japan, Italy, France,
Speaker 3: South Korea, Costa Rica, Botswana, Portugal, Estonia, Israel, the Czech Republic, India, Taiwan, Chile, Belgium, Cyprus, Slovenia, Lithuania,
Speaker 3: South America, or South Africa rather South America be a continent. Jamaica, Latvia, Slovakia, Greece, Panama, Bulgaria, Indian, Anesia, Argentina, Poland, Brazil, Ghana, Croatia, Hungary, Colombia, Peru,
Speaker 3: El Salvador, or Romania, Serbia, Hong Kong. What are all
Speaker 3: these countries have in common? You have to be a
Speaker 3: citizen of the country and have a voter ID to
Speaker 3: vote in elections. United States as a as a nation
Speaker 3: does not have that in common, and that needs to happen.
Speaker 2: And you got to be a citizen to get a
Speaker 2: voter ID. That definitely needs to happen.
Speaker 3: The Great American Bill Cunningham on the way next until
Speaker 3: the next time, Gary, Jeff peace out.
Speaker 2: Baseman doctor.
Speaker 7: I got