1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Hey Life, this is Pet Life Radio. Let's talk pets. 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: This episode of the Old Behave Show on Pet Life 3 00:00:10,439 --> 00:00:14,359 Radio is brought to you by Tavati Pet. Devadi Pet 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:19,199 is the makers of the scienced back Veterinarian Trusted Natural 5 00:00:19,359 --> 00:00:24,600 topical formula. It supports joint health and mobility and dogs. 6 00:00:24,879 --> 00:00:32,560 Learn more at Tavadi dot com, Tvati dot com. 7 00:00:32,719 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 3: It's all Behaved with ardenmore this show that teaches you 8 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,119 how to have harmony in the household with your pets. 9 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:39,119 Speaker 4: Join Ardna. 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,039 Speaker 3: She travels coast to coast to help millions better understand 11 00:00:42,039 --> 00:00:44,679 why cats and dogs do what they do. 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Today 23 00:01:18,239 --> 00:01:24,120 we are going to help you become your dog's best friend, 24 00:01:24,719 --> 00:01:29,799 especially those sweet dogs with joint eggs and issues. Our 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,239 special guest will be sharing some great news about a 26 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:39,719 new natural product. It originates from the Cook Islands. Come on, 27 00:01:40,519 --> 00:01:44,159 please give pause and applause to the very talented medical 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:49,840 doctor and a researcher. He is doctor Graham Matthieson and 29 00:01:50,359 --> 00:01:55,079 the co founder of a new dog company called Tavadi Pet. 30 00:01:55,319 --> 00:01:57,159 Speaker 5: He is Sean Cahill. 31 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,959 Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome to the show, doctor Graham and Sean. 32 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 6: Oh, thank you for having me. 33 00:02:02,799 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: All right, you know, everyone tuning in, we talk about 34 00:02:06,799 --> 00:02:12,039 a time change difference. It is eight am here in Dallas, 35 00:02:12,319 --> 00:02:15,960 my producer at nine am in Florida. And for you, 36 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,800 doctor Graham, what time is it and where the heck 37 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:19,199 are you? 38 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,039 Speaker 6: Oh? I'm currently in Sydney and it's midnight. 39 00:02:22,599 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 7: Oh all right mate. 40 00:02:24,599 --> 00:02:28,599 Speaker 2: We're gonna keep going on this. Hey, we're gonna talk 41 00:02:28,599 --> 00:02:30,919 about the product, but we want to first get the 42 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,280 backstory of these two and I want to dive in 43 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,319 and we're gonna do that in a second. 44 00:02:37,439 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 5: But you all know the drill. We're gonna sit stay, 45 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:42,120 We'll be right back. 46 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 6: Time for a pause for very ones. 47 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 3: Actually sit and stay, all behave, We'll be right back. 48 00:02:54,759 --> 00:02:58,479 Speaker 8: Take a bite out of your competition. 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For more information on how you 58 00:03:27,439 --> 00:03:31,039 can advertise on the number one pet podcast and radio network, 59 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,719 visit petlifradio dot com slash advertised today. 60 00:03:36,759 --> 00:03:44,759 Speaker 4: Let's talk pets on petlifradio dot com. All behaviors back 61 00:03:44,759 --> 00:03:48,479 with more tail wagging Ways to achieve harmony of the household. 62 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: With your pets. Now back to your fetching host, America's 63 00:03:51,319 --> 00:03:53,400 pet ed You, Janner Ardenmore. 64 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,639 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Oba show on pet Life Radio. 65 00:03:56,759 --> 00:04:00,360 I'm your host, Ardenmore. I am so jazz because we've 66 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,120 got two individuals here on our show that are making 67 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,159 lives better for dogs and horses and people, and we're 68 00:04:08,199 --> 00:04:11,599 going to dive in. One is doctor Graham Matheson and 69 00:04:11,639 --> 00:04:14,280 the other is Sean Cahill. He is the co founder 70 00:04:14,439 --> 00:04:17,439 of Toabadi pet. So I said we're going to dive in. 71 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,319 The reason I said that verb is because didn't the 72 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,399 two of you first meet years ago? Didn't you, Doctor Graham, 73 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,360 you like to be called Cookie, teach Sean how to surf. 74 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 6: Oh, that's a little bit of a stretch. I tried to. Oh, 75 00:04:31,439 --> 00:04:32,240 you try to. 76 00:04:34,639 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 5: So seriously, how far ago does your friendship go? 77 00:04:37,519 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: Oh? 78 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 6: Both of us have boys the same age that went 79 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,040 to primary school together. And so we met with a 80 00:04:44,079 --> 00:04:46,879 group of dads from the school. And this group of 81 00:04:46,959 --> 00:04:51,839 dads we went surfing every weekend together and the kids parents, 82 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,680 the moms would hang out at the park on the 83 00:04:53,879 --> 00:04:56,959 Friday afternoons together and we just had a really great 84 00:04:57,079 --> 00:05:00,079 group of people with great kids, great parents, and we 85 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,959 all became great friends. And yes, so we were surfing. 86 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 5: And where was this beach? 87 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:04,759 Speaker 2: Where were you? 88 00:05:04,879 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 6: We're in South Caronella and the southern beaches of Sydney. 89 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,199 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, time to confess, Sean, are you 90 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,399 going to quit your job? And become a professional surfer. 91 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 7: Knows the short answers to that. 92 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 5: So what was it? 93 00:05:18,879 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 2: Let's get a little background, because doctor Graham, you have 94 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:22,800 a lot of credentials. 95 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 5: How long have you been a medical doctor? What's your 96 00:05:25,319 --> 00:05:26,439 area of research? 97 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 6: So I've been a medical doctor since two thousand and one. 98 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,360 I did my medical degree in training at the University 99 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,839 of New South Wales in Sydney, and during that time 100 00:05:36,959 --> 00:05:41,079 I did my research honors projects with the Professor Bill 101 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,839 walshap the surgical and orthopedic research of archeries. I was 102 00:05:44,879 --> 00:05:48,319 always interested in injury recovery because I grew up in 103 00:05:48,399 --> 00:05:52,800 Nicole Collinson, played sport and played competitive rugby and professional 104 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,959 rugby and injuries was a big part of what we did. 105 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,959 So I was always interested in injury repair and I 106 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:04,279 did a ass of biomedical engineering in tissue repair intendance. 107 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,600 And then fortunate enough, having done that and having broken 108 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,000 a leg to have taken the opportunity to say, look 109 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,000 back in the Cook Islands, we have a specific treatment 110 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,560 for fractures. I seem to be in a perfect position 111 00:06:18,639 --> 00:06:20,920 to have a look into that. What do you reckon? 112 00:06:20,959 --> 00:06:23,079 And Bill Walsh said, let's just do it. 113 00:06:23,319 --> 00:06:25,959 Speaker 2: Are you from the Cook Islands originally your family. 114 00:06:25,959 --> 00:06:28,319 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, fine, Mom and dad, brothers and sisters are 115 00:06:28,319 --> 00:06:28,839 still there. 116 00:06:29,319 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 5: Okay. 117 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 6: I grew up there through school there, represented the Cook 118 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,879 Islands for athletics and for rugby union, and I still 119 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,399 have family there and I'm back there once or twice 120 00:06:40,399 --> 00:06:40,680 a year. 121 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,519 Speaker 2: So if I'm hearing this right, the expression break a leg, 122 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,600 it really worked out for you. Right? Which leg? Did 123 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:49,000 you break? 124 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 6: Both? Unfortunately? Oh jeez, one after the other. 125 00:06:53,759 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 2: Okay, So we're diving into this plot, guys, because this 126 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,279 is a great backstory. Now we have shot. I'm ca 127 00:07:00,439 --> 00:07:04,240 hel Sean while he was hitting the books. What were 128 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,160 you doing at the time and how did you to 129 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,600 get together? Because you're also from the Cook Islands, right 130 00:07:09,639 --> 00:07:10,480 where your family is. 131 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 9: My mom's from Smoa, so just a hop, skip and 132 00:07:13,199 --> 00:07:15,959 a jump across, so not too far from the Cook Island. 133 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,279 So this is something that I also grew up with 134 00:07:18,279 --> 00:07:21,160 with my traditional medicine because of my grandmother and my mom. 135 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,079 Whenever we were sick, my grandmother or my mom would 136 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,639 you know, grab something and say put this together, and 137 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,600 they'd rub it on your skin or make you drink it, 138 00:07:28,639 --> 00:07:29,399 whatever it may be. 139 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 7: So you know, meeting. 140 00:07:31,079 --> 00:07:34,399 Speaker 9: Cookie through our kids going to school was just a 141 00:07:34,439 --> 00:07:37,600 blessing in disguise because it wasn't something that sort of 142 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,519 unraveled what Cookie had actually carried out at university. 143 00:07:41,959 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 7: That's you know, sort of then became Tavazzi. 144 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: And so this is not something when you read a 145 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,759 label of some products and you have to take a 146 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,800 couple of breasts because they still have more words to it, 147 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,240 and the words are really big and long and all 148 00:07:57,279 --> 00:08:00,240 that you can reveal it because what are the two 149 00:08:00,439 --> 00:08:05,079 ingredients in Tavati pet? And talk about that, Sean, and 150 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,160 then we'll get Cookie. 151 00:08:06,839 --> 00:08:09,759 Speaker 9: I just to tell you what's in Tavati that tvadi 152 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:15,360 pet product, because it's hibiscus bark oil and organic coconut oil, 153 00:08:15,839 --> 00:08:16,560 and that is it. 154 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 5: But it's not just anywhere, right. 155 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 9: No, So it's it's it's well, Cookie, let's let you 156 00:08:21,439 --> 00:08:23,959 talk about this because this is the most important part 157 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,959 because this is the man behind the product. 158 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 7: So let's go. 159 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: It's like move over KFC Kentucky Fried Chicken with your 160 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,559 secret recipes. You're telling us what they are, but they're 161 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,240 very hard to find because they're on the cook islands, 162 00:08:37,279 --> 00:08:38,919 right Cookie. 163 00:08:38,279 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, And it was a it was honest like that 164 00:08:42,279 --> 00:08:45,679 and simple result is was actually the result of an 165 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,039 awful lot of work, which is quite ironic, and I'm 166 00:08:49,159 --> 00:08:51,240 very certain my ancestors would have laughed at all the 167 00:08:51,279 --> 00:08:53,080 work that was done to prove that they were writing 168 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,759 from the first part, because that's not how we normally 169 00:08:55,799 --> 00:08:59,960 go about things in the research world. In the development world. 170 00:09:00,279 --> 00:09:03,720 What we actually found was that adding more to it, 171 00:09:03,879 --> 00:09:08,879 or separating it beyond the certain points lost its efficacy. Okay, 172 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,360 this was a surprise and a frustration, but as it 173 00:09:12,399 --> 00:09:14,639 turns out, the more we understand about it, the more 174 00:09:14,759 --> 00:09:18,440 sense that started to make. It required the coconut oil 175 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,279 to be functional. So this is an actual part active 176 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,679 ingredient in the product. It's not just worth putting it 177 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,240 in coconut oil because that's what the oil that we had, 178 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,559 and there's a particular part and way of extracting the 179 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,279 hyperscous oil that is necessary for it to work. So 180 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,320 there is a little bit more art to the process, 181 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,360 but there is no more ingredients to the process. 182 00:09:40,639 --> 00:09:43,039 Speaker 2: So there's art and science at work one. 183 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 6: Hundred percent, and there's a it's a sort of a 184 00:09:45,759 --> 00:09:48,600 simplicity in design, but not in the process. 185 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:54,039 Speaker 2: So you got a patent, right, yes, and that's that's 186 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:54,960 something easy to do. 187 00:09:55,519 --> 00:09:59,639 Speaker 6: No, and parting a natural product of is extremely difficult, 188 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,840 especially seeing a lot of countries with well established traditional medicines. 189 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,840 And so one of the things we are proud of 190 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,799 is that not only do we manage to get patented 191 00:10:06,799 --> 00:10:10,600 in the USA, Europe, elsewhere, but we also managed to 192 00:10:10,759 --> 00:10:15,159 successfully overcome objections from patent offices in Brazil, in China 193 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:20,480 and India. Will very strongly defend the right to use 194 00:10:20,519 --> 00:10:24,759 traditional or natural medicines within those countries, and we managed 195 00:10:24,759 --> 00:10:29,200 to successfully prove that not only was this novel and 196 00:10:29,879 --> 00:10:34,600 originating from within the Courban's Polynesian culture, but also that 197 00:10:34,759 --> 00:10:39,519 the scientific art that we had demonstrated was novel and 198 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:43,159 excessive and beyond what would he expected to be found 199 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,720 by simply reading a history book or a botany book, 200 00:10:47,039 --> 00:10:49,679 or what would be expected to found elsewhere in the world. 201 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,799 So we managed to successfully show that this was novel 202 00:10:53,279 --> 00:10:57,720 from the Courbalance and the scientific technology and demonstration of 203 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,480 eficacy was sufficient. 204 00:10:59,799 --> 00:11:04,159 Speaker 5: How long did this process take, the patterning process and approving, Yeah, 205 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:05,480 oh my gosh, this. 206 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,799 Speaker 6: Is a really long thing. So I hope you're your 207 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,600 Olympics will bear with us. But you actually file a 208 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,600 pattern where you have a priority period where and this 209 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,519 is leadingly cheap because you filow a pattern in it 210 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,519 says you've got a claim around the world, But what 211 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,320 that really does is buys you time to make applications. Okay, 212 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,320 so you file it once in Australia and anyone that 213 00:11:28,759 --> 00:11:31,000 tries to pop get around the world your claim has 214 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,720 a priority. But then you still have to decide which 215 00:11:33,759 --> 00:11:36,200 countries you are going to file an actual pattern. 216 00:11:36,519 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: How long did this take? How many years? 217 00:11:38,639 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 6: But then you have eighteen months to file national patterns. 218 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,120 Then you have another two years to complete them, and 219 00:11:44,159 --> 00:11:46,440 then they can take as long as they like to 220 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,480 approve them. So the USA patent provisional was filed in 221 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,559 two thousand and nine, the completion was in twenty and ten, 222 00:11:54,799 --> 00:11:57,200 and it was issued in twenty seventeen. 223 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: You know, there's some guy in the Bible named Job 224 00:12:00,159 --> 00:12:02,720 the patients of Joel. Both of you, right, you got 225 00:12:02,759 --> 00:12:05,200 to be you got to play the long game. Now, 226 00:12:05,279 --> 00:12:08,679 how do you enter the scene, Sean? Because I know 227 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,799 you're a businessman and you what were you doing before 228 00:12:12,039 --> 00:12:13,480 Tavati was born? 229 00:12:13,879 --> 00:12:17,879 Speaker 9: So my background is professional sport, got out of professional sport, 230 00:12:17,919 --> 00:12:19,000 then moved into. 231 00:12:19,159 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 7: What was your sporting soccer? Well, we call it football, 232 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:24,159 but America. 233 00:12:23,919 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 5: Oh you should call it what it is football, Yes, football. 234 00:12:27,159 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 9: So I then moved into sales and into the financial 235 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,279 services market. And during that time of spending more and 236 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,600 more time with Cookie, he said, well, I've got a 237 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,759 product and I'm like, okay, he said, but it grows. 238 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,240 The patents are proven that it grows bones off tissue 239 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:46,759 and cartilage. 240 00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 7: And I'm like okay, and he goes, but it's. 241 00:12:49,159 --> 00:12:51,279 Speaker 9: From the Cook Islands and I'm like, and then that's 242 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,799 where this sort of connection was because we're both Polynesians. 243 00:12:53,799 --> 00:12:55,759 Speaker 7: And he said, I the PhD. 244 00:12:56,519 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 9: And this is nearly over seven years ago now, and 245 00:12:59,519 --> 00:13:00,720 look I said to him. 246 00:13:00,759 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 7: I was like, what's a PhD? 247 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 9: And he said it's this and I was like, does 248 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,519 the PhD have pictures? I was like, yep, I said, 249 00:13:06,519 --> 00:13:09,360 show me the pictures. So show me your pictures. And 250 00:13:09,399 --> 00:13:11,559 we're at a coffee shop one morning and I literally, 251 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,159 god a napkin out. I said, right, I know a 252 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,799 few people, and I'm like, I drew some stick figures 253 00:13:17,799 --> 00:13:21,159 on the napkin, drew some circles, and I said, I 254 00:13:21,159 --> 00:13:22,840 want to be able to market and sell this. 255 00:13:22,799 --> 00:13:26,159 Speaker 7: Around the whole world. And long story short is Cookie 256 00:13:26,159 --> 00:13:26,840 just went tick. 257 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 5: So you made a deal on a napkin. 258 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 9: Basically nice and Cookie at that time, there was a 259 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,320 whole heap of things that he was trying to do 260 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,480 with you know, the product and all the rest of it, 261 00:13:38,519 --> 00:13:42,240 and it was just meant to be because perfect timing. 262 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,919 Speaker 7: It was something that was natural. There was nothing that's 263 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:45,840 ever been pushed. 264 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 9: And yeah, Cookie, you know you can elaborate on that 265 00:13:49,799 --> 00:13:53,360 also because it's when I tell people people like, there's 266 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:54,279 no chance you did that. 267 00:13:54,759 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 2: Well, we're going to find out what Cookie says and 268 00:13:57,039 --> 00:14:00,279 how the heck you got that nickname Cookie after we. 269 00:14:00,279 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 5: Take this quick break, so sit stay, we'll be right. 270 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 6: Back time for a walk on my red car. 271 00:14:10,279 --> 00:14:13,279 Speaker 3: But but of course, oh behave we'll be backing off last 272 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,320 right after these messages. 273 00:14:16,799 --> 00:14:18,639 Speaker 1: Thank you to hear more of your favorite show. 274 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:19,279 Speaker 2: Cool. 275 00:14:19,399 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: Full episodes of on our shows are available on demand. 276 00:14:22,679 --> 00:14:25,559 Go to petlife Radio dot com to feed our entire 277 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,000 lineup of possum pet podcasts. 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Let's Talk Pats Live only from pet 279 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:35,720 Life Radio. 280 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 4: Let's talk past, Let's talk pett pat Life Radio, pet 281 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,360 live Radio dot com. 282 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 6: By this is John Provos. 283 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,919 Speaker 7: You might remember me as Timmy from the Lastie series. 284 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,039 Speaker 9: Well, you know every time Lastie comes home, she always 285 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,279 has me turn on pet Life Radio so. 286 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: She can listen to Arden Moore on that show. 287 00:14:55,519 --> 00:15:00,799 Speaker 6: You know, Oh behave, we're back. 288 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 7: From the lots. 289 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,519 Speaker 3: Just check the paper and we had our record showing 290 00:15:03,559 --> 00:15:07,639 at the box, the letterbox that is now back to Ohbiehay. 291 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:08,679 Speaker 6: Here's Harden. 292 00:15:09,279 --> 00:15:11,919 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the obh Show on cet Life Radio. 293 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,799 I'm your host, Arden Moore. We have two stellar gentlemen 294 00:15:16,279 --> 00:15:21,080 as guest. We have doctor Graham, Cookie Matheson and Sean 295 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:26,440 Cahill and they're talking about Tavadi. That's TVA t I 296 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,639 just check it out tabodi dot com. And we're going 297 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,000 to find out how a deal over a napkin has 298 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:38,080 launched a very successful business internationally. But you know people 299 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,759 are curious as a cat, how in the heck did 300 00:15:40,799 --> 00:15:44,240 you get the nickname Cookie, Doctor Mathieson. 301 00:15:44,759 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 6: Well that's Sean's fault. Oh okay, but that it's actually 302 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,000 a relative. The Cogolands Rugby professional rugby class that could 303 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,960 cookies because they're from the Oh they are, so he 304 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,679 just says is interested. He gues, oh, you're a cookie, 305 00:15:57,759 --> 00:16:01,039 which is what the other polones in Ireland is called Islanders. 306 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,600 And so then he just it just stuck. He kept 307 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,320 calling me cookie in ow. All of my friends and 308 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,360 all the people in the other self community know me 309 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:12,000 as cookies. 310 00:16:12,039 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 5: Well it's better than being punkin pie. 311 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 6: There a word things that is Islands have got us. 312 00:16:16,399 --> 00:16:17,000 So I'll take you. 313 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 5: So you got to see ol. 314 00:16:19,399 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: You got somebody that knows sales, knows you're both Polynesians. 315 00:16:23,399 --> 00:16:25,960 I mean this was fate, don't you think, Sean. 316 00:16:26,519 --> 00:16:29,679 Speaker 9: Without a shadow of a doubt, Because to understand our 317 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,879 culture is very complex. I think all cultures are complex, 318 00:16:32,919 --> 00:16:36,480 but to understand the Polonese culture, Polynesian culture, because within 319 00:16:36,559 --> 00:16:39,440 traditional medicine, there's a lot of respect that needs to 320 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,039 go into this because this is something that is both 321 00:16:42,559 --> 00:16:46,039 being shared through our ancestors, and when something's been shared 322 00:16:46,039 --> 00:16:49,159 through our ancestors and then hit home by your grandparents 323 00:16:49,639 --> 00:16:51,879 and then my mum being some more, and it's the 324 00:16:51,919 --> 00:16:55,159 most important thing is respect of what we're being taught. 325 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:59,120 And so meet myself understanding what the respect that we 326 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,000 need to show outditional medicine and. 327 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,039 Speaker 7: Cookie being a doctor. 328 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 9: But you know, having multiple opportunities to take this to market, but. 329 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 7: Then he and I meeting, it was it's fate. It 330 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,680 was just meant to be. And it's been. 331 00:17:13,079 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 9: It's not been an easy journey, if I'm being honest, 332 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:17,559 it's never going to be easy, but it's been something 333 00:17:17,559 --> 00:17:21,000 where this partnership along with our other co founder, Romeo Kek, 334 00:17:21,079 --> 00:17:22,039 it's it's just been. 335 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:23,559 Speaker 7: It's been amazing. 336 00:17:24,039 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: Now you kind of launched in the file and you've 337 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,440 got some awards already from Petage Publication. 338 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 7: Yeah. 339 00:17:31,319 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 9: So we launched into America last year August thirteenth at 340 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,200 super Zoo and since super Zoo, we've we got the 341 00:17:39,319 --> 00:17:42,759 editors select for External Care because people don't know how 342 00:17:42,799 --> 00:17:45,680 to categorize us because we're a topical where we're not 343 00:17:45,839 --> 00:17:47,839 something that's induced or injected. 344 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 7: It's a topical product. 345 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 9: So you know, Vets hadn't heard of a topical that 346 00:17:52,279 --> 00:17:54,160 does what we do and they were like, what do 347 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:55,240 you mean it's topical? 348 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:56,799 Speaker 7: And I was like, well, you just. 349 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 9: Rub it on your skin and it absorbs in via 350 00:18:00,039 --> 00:18:03,160 your skin into your bloodstream and identifies markers to enable 351 00:18:03,519 --> 00:18:07,640 the joint mobility healing. And so yeah, we were awarded 352 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,880 the pet Age Editors Select, which is phenomenal. And we've 353 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,799 only been in America seven months, but you know, we 354 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,960 now have doctor Katie Kengis as our chief well Being 355 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:19,920 but near en officer, and she is one of the 356 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,599 biggest you vets across America, if not the world in 357 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,000 the holistic space. It's an absolute pleasure to work with her. 358 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,839 But we've got some phenomenal vets that have come on board. 359 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,839 And to be honest, we really haven't marketed this because 360 00:18:33,079 --> 00:18:35,039 we really didn't have the money to market this. 361 00:18:35,559 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 6: So it's a. 362 00:18:36,079 --> 00:18:39,279 Speaker 9: Product that's been able to get out into the market 363 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,640 with the small limited budget to try advertise into the 364 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:47,200 American market with honesty, and it's selling and the repeat 365 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,240 purchase is there. 366 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 7: And I think you have a story too, Arden, but 367 00:18:50,759 --> 00:18:51,359 we'll get to that. 368 00:18:52,079 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to get about Connor in a minute. 369 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,880 And I want to ask Cookie, can you just kind 370 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,640 of explain what happens with the specific high disk and 371 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,880 the specific coconut oil. I mean, it's worked on you. You 372 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,480 can walk now, you don't have broken legs anymore, thank gosh. 373 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,200 But can you kind of boil it down for us? 374 00:19:10,759 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 6: Yes, So the plant material is collected in a non 375 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:19,000 destructive way, so the plant's not destroyed. We collect the 376 00:19:19,079 --> 00:19:23,160 useful component and retain the reminder of the plant function. 377 00:19:23,759 --> 00:19:30,640 We then extract from that into an ethanol solvent, which 378 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,960 means we can remove all the actual plants followed material 379 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,039 which is important for biosecurity reasons. And then this is 380 00:19:37,039 --> 00:19:39,200 transferred into the coconut oil when we do this and 381 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,920 so on site in the core balance. So we have 382 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,160 a laboratory in the Core Balance which was established for 383 00:19:45,279 --> 00:19:47,559 this and this this is sort of like a really 384 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,039 cool little anomally, you know, nestled into the mountains there 385 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,480 is You've got the factory which has got four meter 386 00:19:54,599 --> 00:20:00,640 high borosilicate glass separators and condensers, and we've got a 387 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,640 research analytical laboratory there that has a gas chromatography mass 388 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:09,880 spectrometer in it, and we just it's we tech transferred 389 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,240 everything back to the Cook Islands. That is incredible is 390 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,319 made in the Cook Islands. I want to clutch on 391 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,960 something Sean said before about the respect you know, when 392 00:20:18,079 --> 00:20:21,680 somebody this project first started the very first thing we did. 393 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,839 We have a series of meetings with the traditional leaders, 394 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,480 with the ultimy. We had a very in depth conversation 395 00:20:27,519 --> 00:20:30,920 about the pros and cons about researching traditional medicines, how 396 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,720 it be managed, how it be funded, how it would 397 00:20:33,759 --> 00:20:36,720 be controlled in the future. We developed the joint venture 398 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,519 company that actually controlled the interests of it. And even 399 00:20:40,559 --> 00:20:44,960 when we launched the research company into external investment and 400 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,960 through some transitions, there's a beneficial trust and they hold 401 00:20:49,279 --> 00:20:52,839 are the largest shareholders of that beneficial trust. And so 402 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,599 was this was done in prior knowledge and in joint 403 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,920 partnership with the traditional owners of the intellectual property as 404 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,519 it should be. Yes, this has always been and this 405 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:09,519 is important because this wasn't as Chong's fay as well. 406 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,119 Within our culture, it's not possible to do things like 407 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,839 if you don't do them right from the start, it 408 00:21:13,839 --> 00:21:16,319 becomes a mess later. But we did it. This is 409 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,640 how we went through the process, and so it's always 410 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,039 been a very collaborative process with the traditional world leaders. 411 00:21:22,559 --> 00:21:26,480 And you know the fort late president of the COLTONUI, 412 00:21:26,599 --> 00:21:28,759 she was a very very good friend of mine and 413 00:21:28,799 --> 00:21:31,680 she had the best one liner for this is, you know, 414 00:21:32,279 --> 00:21:35,359 Our ancestors didn't randomly drift across the ocean hoping to 415 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,279 find an island. And they sure as hell didn't throat 416 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,920 randomly throw some bands together hoping to fix a bone. 417 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,279 They knew exactly what they were doing, all right. 418 00:21:42,319 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 2: And who just popped in on the screen. 419 00:21:44,319 --> 00:21:46,839 Speaker 9: Well, guys, we just haded someone turn up and this 420 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,240 is doctor Katie Kangis. 421 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 2: Oh hi, so you're handling it on the cat and 422 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,880 netal us right, I am, And I'm an integrative holistic 423 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,559 veterinarian and my favorite kind. 424 00:21:58,039 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 10: Yay, thank you so so yep, that's my passion in 425 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,119 my niche and I'm so glad to be able to 426 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,039 support this product to get out to more pets and 427 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,319 more animals and more people. That's the lovely thing is 428 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,599 as we introduce this to retail partners, other veterinarians, et cetera, 429 00:22:17,319 --> 00:22:19,720 the human product is even selling more because people are 430 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,799 seeing this work for their pets and it's just such 431 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,039 a beautiful networking of bringing this out to more purpose 432 00:22:27,319 --> 00:22:28,960 and you know it's good. 433 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, good. 434 00:22:29,759 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: Well, I do want to let everybody know who's tuned in. 435 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,319 You are on the longest running weekly pet podcast on 436 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,000 the planet by the way, I mean settle down, settle down. 437 00:22:39,319 --> 00:22:41,319 We have been on the air since two thousand and 438 00:22:41,319 --> 00:22:44,240 seven when no one knew what podcast was, and we 439 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:49,039 use something called Skype. Yes so, and my producer Mark 440 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,319 Winner and I We've won many awards and all that. 441 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,440 I'm a former newspaper reporter, remember newspapers. 442 00:22:54,519 --> 00:22:55,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. 443 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: So the reason I say all this is because people 444 00:22:58,039 --> 00:23:01,240 know me. And I had an editor that told me 445 00:23:01,559 --> 00:23:04,480 when I was starting out awed and he talked like 446 00:23:04,519 --> 00:23:08,960 that eb Yamada tells ya, she loves Yall check it out, 447 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,440 which means just don't take things at face value, do 448 00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:16,200 your research, get good, good answers. So I want to 449 00:23:16,279 --> 00:23:19,599 let everybody know tuning in that I have a beautiful 450 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,400 eleven twelve year old dog. We don't know. She won't 451 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,519 tell us. Her name is ConA, full name ice Cream ConA. 452 00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:30,519 Take that cookie and she helps me. She's a certified 453 00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:34,960 therapy dog. And I teach veterinary approved Pet first DAID 454 00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:38,440 and CPR all over the world and I do it 455 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,240 by zoom in person and self paced classes and COONa 456 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,759 is pet safety dog. ConA teamed up with a cat, 457 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,640 pet safety cat, Casey, also a therapy cat, also an 458 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,559 orange tabby that says everything. So ConA loves to fetch. 459 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,079 ConA loves to go on walks, and I have noticed 460 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,759 that she's her slowing down. And I used to go 461 00:23:59,839 --> 00:24:03,359 like this and she touched my body and she would 462 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,559 leap in my arms, all thirty eight pounds. Well, for 463 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,519 the last month, we have three things left. I have 464 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,160 been dutifully putting it on the back of her neck, 465 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,079 the tavati, and she has more pep to her step. 466 00:24:16,599 --> 00:24:19,039 And we got a new dog named Nova. 467 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,559 Speaker 5: Six toes six toes on each back leg. 468 00:24:22,279 --> 00:24:25,799 Speaker 2: And we played double fetch now, which is I have 469 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,920 to throw two balls in opposite directions, so the dogs 470 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,079 go in the opposite direction. And I'm not a rugby player. 471 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,480 I'm not a football player, but I played softball for 472 00:24:36,519 --> 00:24:39,839 thirty two years, so I played on men's and women's teams, 473 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,400 and so I can toss it. I'm a really good tosser. 474 00:24:42,759 --> 00:24:45,559 But I just want to thank you on behalf of Kona, 475 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,680 because I'm seeing a difference just in a month. So 476 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,400 who wants to handle that comment? Who wants to pop 477 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:53,799 in on that? 478 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 7: Go ahead, Sean, Let's give Kadie the floor. 479 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,079 Speaker 9: Here because you know, in the VETSPY she's the leading 480 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,000 one here, so that'd be phenomenal, Thanks Katie. 481 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, So I've continually I'm so impressed and 482 00:25:06,079 --> 00:25:09,519 enthusiastic with the results that we're seeing, and even just 483 00:25:09,759 --> 00:25:12,400 we're in Orlando at a pet. 484 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,279 Speaker 7: Health expo, the Global Expo. 485 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 10: So we are networking and meeting and speaking with so 486 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,440 many different people. And the wonderful thing is I already 487 00:25:21,519 --> 00:25:25,119 had a pretty good base of feedback and response from 488 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,039 people that I directly knew that I have been using this. Okay, 489 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,480 that's but even here too, the amount of feedback and 490 00:25:32,759 --> 00:25:35,880 successful comments that we're hearing over the last forty eight 491 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,440 hours is nothing short of fantastic and you know, really inspiring. 492 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:42,359 And so yeah, I've seen. 493 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 2: A lot well talk about joint because you know our 494 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,079 you know, I remember I was the editor of cat 495 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,759 NEV through Touch University years ago, and some vearians didn't 496 00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:55,160 even think that cats could get arthritis. Oh really, and 497 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,720 that was disputed. So dogs, cats, like people, you know, 498 00:26:00,279 --> 00:26:01,480 they get joint issues. 499 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 10: Yeah, and you're right, arthritis has been under and now 500 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,519 we know that it had been under recognized and underdiagnosed 501 00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:09,359 for decades. 502 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,599 Speaker 5: And cats. So now it's it's quite. 503 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 10: Well known that cats suffer from art critic challenges and 504 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,880 ar critic you know, issues slowing down and you know 505 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,880 their obviously their movement, their mobility, their ability to jump 506 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,640 around and all of that is very common. And this 507 00:26:26,839 --> 00:26:30,759 is such a fantastic product for cats because there's so 508 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,960 many things that are not safe for cats that are. 509 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,799 Speaker 5: Physiology is so different. 510 00:26:36,079 --> 00:26:40,079 Speaker 10: Yeah, and so you know, certainly in the pharmaceutical sector 511 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,079 anti inflammatories, cats don't tolerate them at all. 512 00:26:43,559 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 5: So for years cats dealt with. 513 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 10: Pain when we would be treating dogs. Now I'm holistic, 514 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,640 so there's a lot of herbal things and you know, 515 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,920 homeopoptic things that I tap into and those are wonderful, 516 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,960 but still they can be very difficult to deliver to cats. 517 00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 5: And so many pet parents. 518 00:27:01,759 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 10: Are sort of the obstacle for supporting cats for better 519 00:27:06,079 --> 00:27:09,599 vitality and comfort and everything is being able to get 520 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,000 things into them because cats are finicky. 521 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 5: It's you know, herbs are better, you know, et cetera, 522 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:15,279 et cetera. 523 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,799 Speaker 10: So it can be difficult to give cats supplements, even 524 00:27:17,839 --> 00:27:19,680 though there's a lot of great supplements that we have 525 00:27:19,759 --> 00:27:20,480 as options. 526 00:27:20,839 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so we gotta wrap I think some things up. 527 00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:26,480 But you launch this product Sean and Cookie and then 528 00:27:26,599 --> 00:27:30,559 with doctor Katie is initially for horses and dogs in 529 00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:33,440 the four legged world and people. So are you trying 530 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,319 to gradually get to the cat world too? 531 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 5: Who wants to grab that one? 532 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 533 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 9: So the view is look to be honest when you 534 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,240 tell somebody that you know, at the moment we're still 535 00:27:42,319 --> 00:27:43,200 looking at the cats. 536 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:43,839 Speaker 7: They don't care. 537 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,839 Speaker 9: They're just desperate to look at a product. So what 538 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,119 we say with cats is use it less frequently. So 539 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,119 we have cat parents using to fights at the moment, 540 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,559 but in time and probably the next three to six months, 541 00:27:54,559 --> 00:27:57,920 we will have a specific skew for our cat parents. 542 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 7: So we're really excited. It's it's just happening too quick. Yeah. 543 00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I want everybody to know that's tuned in 544 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,799 and we'll put this out there. You have a code 545 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,799 Arden right on the Tabati size tv ati. 546 00:28:12,279 --> 00:28:14,519 Speaker 5: Tell us what that does. They don't get a brand 547 00:28:14,519 --> 00:28:15,680 new Luxus, right. 548 00:28:15,759 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 7: No, unfortunate not. 549 00:28:16,759 --> 00:28:18,799 Speaker 9: But who wants alexis when we can get something that 550 00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:22,480 helps our animals. So the code is Arden, and what 551 00:28:22,599 --> 00:28:25,559 happens is your community will put that code in and 552 00:28:25,599 --> 00:28:28,440 that will get a ten percent discount on their first purchase. 553 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,559 Speaker 2: All right, and as I bring this in, we have 554 00:28:32,079 --> 00:28:34,160 his birthday is April Fool's Day. 555 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 5: This is Pet Safety Cat Casey and. 556 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,599 Speaker 2: He turns twelve and right now he is a long, lean, 557 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,880 purring machine. But he said, I'm so glad that you 558 00:28:45,039 --> 00:28:46,519 came up with this. And here we go. 559 00:28:46,599 --> 00:28:48,119 Speaker 5: Come here, ConA, me too. 560 00:28:48,359 --> 00:28:50,839 Speaker 2: I'm here, ConA. I want you to say hi to 561 00:28:51,079 --> 00:28:56,160 Pet Safety Dog ConA, who says thank you, doctor Cookie, 562 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:01,119 doctor Katie and Sean, because I have more to my step. 563 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:07,039 That's so, this has been an incredible conversation. It is 564 00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:09,359 not our last. We're gonna have you guys all back 565 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,960 on because we want to get back in about six 566 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,400 months and let everybody know what the heck is happening. 567 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:14,559 Speaker 5: Now. 568 00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 2: What do you think? Is that a deal? Everybody? 569 00:29:16,559 --> 00:29:17,119 Speaker 7: It's a deal. 570 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,519 Speaker 5: Excellent. I'm again. 571 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 2: People go to Tavadi dot com, Tvati dot com check 572 00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:26,559 out everything that they do. I also at this time 573 00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:30,119 want to give a salute to my producer, Mark Winter. 574 00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:33,319 He is the executive producer of Pet Life Radio. We 575 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,599 are the largest radio network for pets and humbly obehave 576 00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:40,720 has been on the air since seven. We thank all 577 00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:43,480 of you for this when you're not tuning in, and 578 00:29:43,559 --> 00:29:46,400 I love this from my integrated vet doctor Katie Casey 579 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,400 always has to bust a move is. My passion is 580 00:29:50,519 --> 00:29:53,799 helping people learn how to save lives. So I teach 581 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,480 Pet First Aid in a very fun, practical way with 582 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,799 fun jingles and everything. All that very proved with. 583 00:29:59,759 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 5: The t game of ConA and Casey. 584 00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 2: So it's kind of cool to take a class with 585 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,640 a real dog and a cat, wouldn't you say? Absolutely? 586 00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:09,759 So check out Pet First Aid for you and until 587 00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:12,960 next time. This is your flea free host Artimore, just 588 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,519 delivering two words to all you two three and four 589 00:30:16,599 --> 00:30:17,440 laggers out there. 590 00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:21,759 Speaker 7: Oh behave coast to coast and around the world. 591 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,839 Speaker 4: It's all behaved with Art and More. 592 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 3: Find out why cats and dogs do the things they 593 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,359 do and get the latest buzz from Wagging Tongues and 594 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,240 tails and rin tin tinsel Town. From famous pet experts 595 00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:36,119 and best selling authors to television and movie stars. You'll 596 00:30:36,119 --> 00:30:38,440 get great tail wagging pet tips and have a fur 597 00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:42,880 flying fun time. All behave with America's Pet Entertainer Art 598 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:56,119 More every week on demand only on petlife radio dot com,