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the co founder of a new dog company called Tavadi Pet.
Speaker 5: He is Sean Cahill.
Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome to the show, doctor Graham and Sean.
Speaker 6: Oh, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: All right, you know, everyone tuning in, we talk about
a time change difference. It is eight am here in Dallas,
my producer at nine am in Florida. And for you,
doctor Graham, what time is it and where the heck
are you?
Speaker 6: Oh? I'm currently in Sydney and it's midnight.
Speaker 7: Oh all right mate.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Oba show on pet Life Radio.
I'm your host, Ardenmore. I am so jazz because we've
got two individuals here on our show that are making
lives better for dogs and horses and people, and we're
going to dive in. One is doctor Graham Matheson and
the other is Sean Cahill. He is the co founder
of Toabadi pet. So I said we're going to dive in.
The reason I said that verb is because didn't the
two of you first meet years ago? Didn't you, Doctor Graham,
you like to be called Cookie, teach Sean how to surf.
Speaker 6: Oh, that's a little bit of a stretch. I tried to. Oh,
you try to.
Speaker 5: So seriously, how far ago does your friendship go?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 6: Both of us have boys the same age that went
to primary school together. And so we met with a
group of dads from the school. And this group of
dads we went surfing every weekend together and the kids parents,
the moms would hang out at the park on the
Friday afternoons together and we just had a really great
group of people with great kids, great parents, and we
all became great friends. And yes, so we were surfing.
Speaker 5: And where was this beach?
Speaker 2: Where were you?
Speaker 6: We're in South Caronella and the southern beaches of Sydney.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, time to confess, Sean, are you
going to quit your job? And become a professional surfer.
Speaker 7: Knows the short answers to that.
Speaker 5: So what was it?
Speaker 2: Let's get a little background, because doctor Graham, you have
a lot of credentials.
Speaker 5: How long have you been a medical doctor? What's your
area of research?
Speaker 6: So I've been a medical doctor since two thousand and one.
I did my medical degree in training at the University
of New South Wales in Sydney, and during that time
I did my research honors projects with the Professor Bill
walshap the surgical and orthopedic research of archeries. I was
always interested in injury recovery because I grew up in
Nicole Collinson, played sport and played competitive rugby and professional
rugby and injuries was a big part of what we did.
So I was always interested in injury repair and I
did a ass of biomedical engineering in tissue repair intendance.
And then fortunate enough, having done that and having broken
a leg to have taken the opportunity to say, look
back in the Cook Islands, we have a specific treatment
for fractures. I seem to be in a perfect position
to have a look into that. What do you reckon?
And Bill Walsh said, let's just do it.
Speaker 2: Are you from the Cook Islands originally your family.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, fine, Mom and dad, brothers and sisters are
still there.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 6: I grew up there through school there, represented the Cook
Islands for athletics and for rugby union, and I still
have family there and I'm back there once or twice
a year.
Speaker 2: So if I'm hearing this right, the expression break a leg,
it really worked out for you. Right? Which leg? Did
you break?
Speaker 6: Both? Unfortunately? Oh jeez, one after the other.
Speaker 2: Okay, So we're diving into this plot, guys, because this
is a great backstory. Now we have shot. I'm ca
hel Sean while he was hitting the books. What were
you doing at the time and how did you to
get together? Because you're also from the Cook Islands, right
where your family is.
Speaker 9: My mom's from Smoa, so just a hop, skip and
a jump across, so not too far from the Cook Island.
So this is something that I also grew up with
with my traditional medicine because of my grandmother and my mom.
Whenever we were sick, my grandmother or my mom would
you know, grab something and say put this together, and
they'd rub it on your skin or make you drink it,
whatever it may be.
Speaker 7: So you know, meeting.
Speaker 9: Cookie through our kids going to school was just a
blessing in disguise because it wasn't something that sort of
unraveled what Cookie had actually carried out at university.
Speaker 7: That's you know, sort of then became Tavazzi.
Speaker 2: And so this is not something when you read a
label of some products and you have to take a
couple of breasts because they still have more words to it,
and the words are really big and long and all
that you can reveal it because what are the two
ingredients in Tavati pet? And talk about that, Sean, and
then we'll get Cookie.
Speaker 9: I just to tell you what's in Tavati that tvadi
pet product, because it's hibiscus bark oil and organic coconut oil,
and that is it.
Speaker 5: But it's not just anywhere, right.
Speaker 9: No, So it's it's it's well, Cookie, let's let you
talk about this because this is the most important part
because this is the man behind the product.
Speaker 7: So let's go.
Speaker 2: It's like move over KFC Kentucky Fried Chicken with your
secret recipes. You're telling us what they are, but they're
very hard to find because they're on the cook islands,
right Cookie.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And it was a it was honest like that
and simple result is was actually the result of an
awful lot of work, which is quite ironic, and I'm
very certain my ancestors would have laughed at all the
work that was done to prove that they were writing
from the first part, because that's not how we normally
go about things in the research world. In the development world.
What we actually found was that adding more to it,
or separating it beyond the certain points lost its efficacy. Okay,
this was a surprise and a frustration, but as it
turns out, the more we understand about it, the more
sense that started to make. It required the coconut oil
to be functional. So this is an actual part active
ingredient in the product. It's not just worth putting it
in coconut oil because that's what the oil that we had,
and there's a particular part and way of extracting the
hyperscous oil that is necessary for it to work. So
there is a little bit more art to the process,
but there is no more ingredients to the process.
Speaker 2: So there's art and science at work one.
Speaker 6: Hundred percent, and there's a it's a sort of a
simplicity in design, but not in the process.
Speaker 2: So you got a patent, right, yes, and that's that's
something easy to do.
Speaker 6: No, and parting a natural product of is extremely difficult,
especially seeing a lot of countries with well established traditional medicines.
And so one of the things we are proud of
is that not only do we manage to get patented
in the USA, Europe, elsewhere, but we also managed to
successfully overcome objections from patent offices in Brazil, in China
and India. Will very strongly defend the right to use
traditional or natural medicines within those countries, and we managed
to successfully prove that not only was this novel and
originating from within the Courban's Polynesian culture, but also that
the scientific art that we had demonstrated was novel and
excessive and beyond what would he expected to be found
by simply reading a history book or a botany book,
or what would be expected to found elsewhere in the world.
So we managed to successfully show that this was novel
from the Courbalance and the scientific technology and demonstration of
eficacy was sufficient.
Speaker 5: How long did this process take, the patterning process and approving, Yeah,
oh my gosh, this.
Speaker 6: Is a really long thing. So I hope you're your
Olympics will bear with us. But you actually file a
pattern where you have a priority period where and this
is leadingly cheap because you filow a pattern in it
says you've got a claim around the world, But what
that really does is buys you time to make applications. Okay,
so you file it once in Australia and anyone that
tries to pop get around the world your claim has
a priority. But then you still have to decide which
countries you are going to file an actual pattern.
Speaker 2: How long did this take? How many years?
Speaker 6: But then you have eighteen months to file national patterns.
Then you have another two years to complete them, and
then they can take as long as they like to
approve them. So the USA patent provisional was filed in
two thousand and nine, the completion was in twenty and ten,
and it was issued in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: You know, there's some guy in the Bible named Job
the patients of Joel. Both of you, right, you got
to be you got to play the long game. Now,
how do you enter the scene, Sean? Because I know
you're a businessman and you what were you doing before
Tavati was born?
Speaker 9: So my background is professional sport, got out of professional sport,
then moved into.
Speaker 7: What was your sporting soccer? Well, we call it football,
but America.
Speaker 5: Oh you should call it what it is football, Yes, football.
Speaker 9: So I then moved into sales and into the financial
services market. And during that time of spending more and
more time with Cookie, he said, well, I've got a
product and I'm like, okay, he said, but it grows.
The patents are proven that it grows bones off tissue
and cartilage.
Speaker 7: And I'm like okay, and he goes, but it's.
Speaker 9: From the Cook Islands and I'm like, and then that's
where this sort of connection was because we're both Polynesians.
Speaker 7: And he said, I the PhD.
Speaker 9: And this is nearly over seven years ago now, and
look I said to him.
Speaker 7: I was like, what's a PhD?
Speaker 9: And he said it's this and I was like, does
the PhD have pictures? I was like, yep, I said,
show me the pictures. So show me your pictures. And
we're at a coffee shop one morning and I literally,
god a napkin out. I said, right, I know a
few people, and I'm like, I drew some stick figures
on the napkin, drew some circles, and I said, I
want to be able to market and sell this.
Speaker 7: Around the whole world. And long story short is Cookie
just went tick.
Speaker 5: So you made a deal on a napkin.
Speaker 9: Basically nice and Cookie at that time, there was a
whole heap of things that he was trying to do
with you know, the product and all the rest of it,
and it was just meant to be because perfect timing.
Speaker 7: It was something that was natural. There was nothing that's
ever been pushed.
Speaker 9: And yeah, Cookie, you know you can elaborate on that
also because it's when I tell people people like, there's
no chance you did that.
Speaker 2: Well, we're going to find out what Cookie says and
how the heck you got that nickname Cookie after we.
Speaker 5: Take this quick break, so sit stay, we'll be right.
Speaker 6: Back time for a walk on my red car.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the obh Show on cet Life Radio.
I'm your host, Arden Moore. We have two stellar gentlemen
as guest. We have doctor Graham, Cookie Matheson and Sean
Cahill and they're talking about Tavadi. That's TVA t I
just check it out tabodi dot com. And we're going
to find out how a deal over a napkin has
launched a very successful business internationally. But you know people
are curious as a cat, how in the heck did
you get the nickname Cookie, Doctor Mathieson.
Speaker 6: Well that's Sean's fault. Oh okay, but that it's actually
a relative. The Cogolands Rugby professional rugby class that could
cookies because they're from the Oh they are, so he
just says is interested. He gues, oh, you're a cookie,
which is what the other polones in Ireland is called Islanders.
And so then he just it just stuck. He kept
calling me cookie in ow. All of my friends and
all the people in the other self community know me
as cookies.
Speaker 5: Well it's better than being punkin pie.
Speaker 6: There a word things that is Islands have got us.
So I'll take you.
Speaker 5: So you got to see ol.
Speaker 2: You got somebody that knows sales, knows you're both Polynesians.
I mean this was fate, don't you think, Sean.
Speaker 9: Without a shadow of a doubt, Because to understand our
culture is very complex. I think all cultures are complex,
but to understand the Polonese culture, Polynesian culture, because within
traditional medicine, there's a lot of respect that needs to
go into this because this is something that is both
being shared through our ancestors, and when something's been shared
through our ancestors and then hit home by your grandparents
and then my mum being some more, and it's the
most important thing is respect of what we're being taught.
And so meet myself understanding what the respect that we
need to show outditional medicine and.
Speaker 7: Cookie being a doctor.
Speaker 9: But you know, having multiple opportunities to take this to market, but.
Speaker 7: Then he and I meeting, it was it's fate. It
was just meant to be. And it's been.
Speaker 9: It's not been an easy journey, if I'm being honest,
it's never going to be easy, but it's been something
where this partnership along with our other co founder, Romeo Kek,
it's it's just been.
Speaker 7: It's been amazing.
Speaker 2: Now you kind of launched in the file and you've
got some awards already from Petage Publication.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: So we launched into America last year August thirteenth at
super Zoo and since super Zoo, we've we got the
editors select for External Care because people don't know how
to categorize us because we're a topical where we're not
something that's induced or injected.
Speaker 7: It's a topical product.
Speaker 9: So you know, Vets hadn't heard of a topical that
does what we do and they were like, what do
you mean it's topical?
Speaker 7: And I was like, well, you just.
Speaker 9: Rub it on your skin and it absorbs in via
your skin into your bloodstream and identifies markers to enable
the joint mobility healing. And so yeah, we were awarded
the pet Age Editors Select, which is phenomenal. And we've
only been in America seven months, but you know, we
now have doctor Katie Kengis as our chief well Being
but near en officer, and she is one of the
biggest you vets across America, if not the world in
the holistic space. It's an absolute pleasure to work with her.
But we've got some phenomenal vets that have come on board.
And to be honest, we really haven't marketed this because
we really didn't have the money to market this.
Speaker 6: So it's a.
Speaker 9: Product that's been able to get out into the market
with the small limited budget to try advertise into the
American market with honesty, and it's selling and the repeat
purchase is there.
Speaker 7: And I think you have a story too, Arden, but
we'll get to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to get about Connor in a minute.
And I want to ask Cookie, can you just kind
of explain what happens with the specific high disk and
the specific coconut oil. I mean, it's worked on you. You
can walk now, you don't have broken legs anymore, thank gosh.
But can you kind of boil it down for us?
Speaker 6: Yes, So the plant material is collected in a non
destructive way, so the plant's not destroyed. We collect the
useful component and retain the reminder of the plant function.
We then extract from that into an ethanol solvent, which
means we can remove all the actual plants followed material
which is important for biosecurity reasons. And then this is
transferred into the coconut oil when we do this and
so on site in the core balance. So we have
a laboratory in the Core Balance which was established for
this and this this is sort of like a really
cool little anomally, you know, nestled into the mountains there
is You've got the factory which has got four meter
high borosilicate glass separators and condensers, and we've got a
research analytical laboratory there that has a gas chromatography mass
spectrometer in it, and we just it's we tech transferred
everything back to the Cook Islands. That is incredible is
made in the Cook Islands. I want to clutch on
something Sean said before about the respect you know, when
somebody this project first started the very first thing we did.
We have a series of meetings with the traditional leaders,
with the ultimy. We had a very in depth conversation
about the pros and cons about researching traditional medicines, how
it be managed, how it be funded, how it would
be controlled in the future. We developed the joint venture
company that actually controlled the interests of it. And even
when we launched the research company into external investment and
through some transitions, there's a beneficial trust and they hold
are the largest shareholders of that beneficial trust. And so
was this was done in prior knowledge and in joint
partnership with the traditional owners of the intellectual property as
it should be. Yes, this has always been and this
is important because this wasn't as Chong's fay as well.
Within our culture, it's not possible to do things like
if you don't do them right from the start, it
becomes a mess later. But we did it. This is
how we went through the process, and so it's always
been a very collaborative process with the traditional world leaders.
And you know the fort late president of the COLTONUI,
she was a very very good friend of mine and
she had the best one liner for this is, you know,
Our ancestors didn't randomly drift across the ocean hoping to
find an island. And they sure as hell didn't throat
randomly throw some bands together hoping to fix a bone.
They knew exactly what they were doing, all right.
Speaker 2: And who just popped in on the screen.
Speaker 9: Well, guys, we just haded someone turn up and this
is doctor Katie Kangis.
Speaker 2: Oh hi, so you're handling it on the cat and
netal us right, I am, And I'm an integrative holistic
veterinarian and my favorite kind.
Speaker 10: Yay, thank you so so yep, that's my passion in
my niche and I'm so glad to be able to
support this product to get out to more pets and
more animals and more people. That's the lovely thing is
as we introduce this to retail partners, other veterinarians, et cetera,
the human product is even selling more because people are
seeing this work for their pets and it's just such
a beautiful networking of bringing this out to more purpose
and you know it's good.
Speaker 7: Yeah, good.
Speaker 2: Well, I do want to let everybody know who's tuned in.
You are on the longest running weekly pet podcast on
the planet by the way, I mean settle down, settle down.
We have been on the air since two thousand and
seven when no one knew what podcast was, and we
use something called Skype. Yes so, and my producer Mark
Winner and I We've won many awards and all that.
I'm a former newspaper reporter, remember newspapers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: So the reason I say all this is because people
know me. And I had an editor that told me
when I was starting out awed and he talked like
that eb Yamada tells ya, she loves Yall check it out,
which means just don't take things at face value, do
your research, get good, good answers. So I want to
let everybody know tuning in that I have a beautiful
eleven twelve year old dog. We don't know. She won't
tell us. Her name is ConA, full name ice Cream ConA.
Take that cookie and she helps me. She's a certified
therapy dog. And I teach veterinary approved Pet first DAID
and CPR all over the world and I do it
by zoom in person and self paced classes and COONa
is pet safety dog. ConA teamed up with a cat,
pet safety cat, Casey, also a therapy cat, also an
orange tabby that says everything. So ConA loves to fetch.
ConA loves to go on walks, and I have noticed
that she's her slowing down. And I used to go
like this and she touched my body and she would
leap in my arms, all thirty eight pounds. Well, for
the last month, we have three things left. I have
been dutifully putting it on the back of her neck,
the tavati, and she has more pep to her step.
And we got a new dog named Nova.
Speaker 5: Six toes six toes on each back leg.
Speaker 2: And we played double fetch now, which is I have
to throw two balls in opposite directions, so the dogs
go in the opposite direction. And I'm not a rugby player.
I'm not a football player, but I played softball for
thirty two years, so I played on men's and women's teams,
and so I can toss it. I'm a really good tosser.
But I just want to thank you on behalf of Kona,
because I'm seeing a difference just in a month. So
who wants to handle that comment? Who wants to pop
in on that?
Speaker 7: Go ahead, Sean, Let's give Kadie the floor.
Speaker 9: Here because you know, in the VETSPY she's the leading
one here, so that'd be phenomenal, Thanks Katie.
Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, So I've continually I'm so impressed and
enthusiastic with the results that we're seeing, and even just
we're in Orlando at a pet.
Speaker 7: Health expo, the Global Expo.
Speaker 10: So we are networking and meeting and speaking with so
many different people. And the wonderful thing is I already
had a pretty good base of feedback and response from
people that I directly knew that I have been using this. Okay,
that's but even here too, the amount of feedback and
successful comments that we're hearing over the last forty eight
hours is nothing short of fantastic and you know, really inspiring.
And so yeah, I've seen.
Speaker 2: A lot well talk about joint because you know our
you know, I remember I was the editor of cat
NEV through Touch University years ago, and some vearians didn't
even think that cats could get arthritis. Oh really, and
that was disputed. So dogs, cats, like people, you know,
they get joint issues.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and you're right, arthritis has been under and now
we know that it had been under recognized and underdiagnosed
for decades.
Speaker 5: And cats. So now it's it's quite.
Speaker 10: Well known that cats suffer from art critic challenges and
ar critic you know, issues slowing down and you know
their obviously their movement, their mobility, their ability to jump
around and all of that is very common. And this
is such a fantastic product for cats because there's so
many things that are not safe for cats that are.
Speaker 5: Physiology is so different.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and so you know, certainly in the pharmaceutical sector
anti inflammatories, cats don't tolerate them at all.
Speaker 5: So for years cats dealt with.
Speaker 10: Pain when we would be treating dogs. Now I'm holistic,
so there's a lot of herbal things and you know,
homeopoptic things that I tap into and those are wonderful,
but still they can be very difficult to deliver to cats.
Speaker 5: And so many pet parents.
Speaker 10: Are sort of the obstacle for supporting cats for better
vitality and comfort and everything is being able to get
things into them because cats are finicky.
Speaker 5: It's you know, herbs are better, you know, et cetera,
et cetera.
Speaker 10: So it can be difficult to give cats supplements, even
though there's a lot of great supplements that we have
as options.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we gotta wrap I think some things up.
But you launch this product Sean and Cookie and then
with doctor Katie is initially for horses and dogs in
the four legged world and people. So are you trying
to gradually get to the cat world too?
Speaker 5: Who wants to grab that one?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 9: So the view is look to be honest when you
tell somebody that you know, at the moment we're still
looking at the cats.
Speaker 7: They don't care.
Speaker 9: They're just desperate to look at a product. So what
we say with cats is use it less frequently. So
we have cat parents using to fights at the moment,
but in time and probably the next three to six months,
we will have a specific skew for our cat parents.
Speaker 7: So we're really excited. It's it's just happening too quick. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I want everybody to know that's tuned in
and we'll put this out there. You have a code
Arden right on the Tabati size tv ati.
Speaker 5: Tell us what that does. They don't get a brand
new Luxus, right.
Speaker 7: No, unfortunate not.
Speaker 9: But who wants alexis when we can get something that
helps our animals. So the code is Arden, and what
happens is your community will put that code in and
that will get a ten percent discount on their first purchase.
Speaker 2: All right, and as I bring this in, we have
his birthday is April Fool's Day.
Speaker 5: This is Pet Safety Cat Casey and.
Speaker 2: He turns twelve and right now he is a long, lean,
purring machine. But he said, I'm so glad that you
came up with this. And here we go.
Speaker 5: Come here, ConA, me too.
Speaker 2: I'm here, ConA. I want you to say hi to
Pet Safety Dog ConA, who says thank you, doctor Cookie,
doctor Katie and Sean, because I have more to my step.
That's so, this has been an incredible conversation. It is
not our last. We're gonna have you guys all back
on because we want to get back in about six
months and let everybody know what the heck is happening.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: What do you think? Is that a deal? Everybody?
Speaker 7: It's a deal.
Speaker 5: Excellent. I'm again.
Speaker 2: People go to Tavadi dot com, Tvati dot com check
out everything that they do. I also at this time
want to give a salute to my producer, Mark Winter.
He is the executive producer of Pet Life Radio. We
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