WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.799 --> 00:00:07.320 Get ready. 2 00:00:13.279 --> 00:00:16.239 Okay, So a couple of minutes after eight pm December 3 00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:19.879 twenty six of twenty twenty five, allegedly according to that 4 00:00:19.879 --> 00:00:23.039 thing we call a calendar, and somehow I managed to 5 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:26.120 get myself live tonight. My voice is not strong, neither 6 00:00:26.199 --> 00:00:29.679 am I, but what the hell here I am? I 7 00:00:29.719 --> 00:00:31.480 was going to try and do last night, but it 8 00:00:31.480 --> 00:00:34.920 didn't work out too well, and I got one response 9 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:39.200 that I saw and one I saw after time elapsed 10 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:40.759 when I could have went live, but I couldn't get 11 00:00:40.759 --> 00:00:44.039 myself together to go live last night. So better I 12 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:46.000 didn't because it was just going to be phone calls 13 00:00:46.039 --> 00:00:48.920 and most people probably didn't expect me to be there anyhow. 14 00:00:49.640 --> 00:00:51.880 Hopefully you guys are enjoying the Christmas stuff, which is 15 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:54.280 going to gradually go away over the next couple of days, 16 00:00:54.359 --> 00:00:57.520 but it's still there on the live stream, and this 17 00:00:57.600 --> 00:00:59.280 show will be added to it and all that. But 18 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:03.000 we're live on Friday, day after Christmas. Right, still the 19 00:01:03.039 --> 00:01:05.640 twenty sixth, Yeah, it is still the twenty sixth day? 20 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:06.000 Boxing? 21 00:01:06.359 --> 00:01:09.959 Yeah? What's that is? 22 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:10.920 Boxing day? 23 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:12.239 Boxing Day? 24 00:01:12.359 --> 00:01:12.560 Oh? 25 00:01:12.680 --> 00:01:16.000 Right? What is that Canada? In boxing? Boxing Day in Canada? 26 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:19.760 No, well, I think I don't know if they do 27 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:21.400 it in Canada, I know they do it in Britain. 28 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:24.120 It's the day that they open up all of the 29 00:01:24.319 --> 00:01:28.959 charitable boxes for the year. Can they find out how 30 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:31.280 much they took in? Can they give it out? 31 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:34.280 Really? You know, I never paid attention to this. I 32 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:36.439 have no idea. I thought Boxing Day had something to 33 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:38.760 do with boxing up gifts. I really had no idea. 34 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:41.000 Never paid a caen. 35 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:43.040 It is boxing and gifts kind of sort. 36 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:46.079 Of Okay, Well, anyway, be Pete, my co host is 37 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:48.760 with me and you can be two three one nine 38 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:51.640 five two seven five zero one six. That's the number 39 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:55.280 to call. Uh. I did hear from somebody while we 40 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:58.879 in the in the between last time we got together 41 00:01:58.920 --> 00:02:02.439 and now for the Friday show that we didn't hear 42 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:04.640 from for a little while there, and that was Chris Graves. 43 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:10.000 So he's still alive. And that's the thing. I mean. 44 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:11.639 I was sitting there saying, I have no idea what 45 00:02:11.639 --> 00:02:14.719 happened to him. I guess Chris might have been a 46 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:16.719 little unhappy because Danny might have said that he thought 47 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:20.960 Chris might have been deranged. But whatever, that's what Chris 48 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:25.080 relayed to me on X But he was apparently in 49 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:28.080 the hospital. And aren't we all having a good year? 50 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:30.479 I'm waiting for twenty twenty five to go away? What 51 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:31.439 about you be Pete? 52 00:02:33.479 --> 00:02:37.400 Oh, well, yeah, so twenty this has been an interesting year, 53 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:41.719 you know, because especially with me and and work retiring, 54 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:44.639 I mean, it's been a big change. So yeah, I'm 55 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:48.639 glad to see twenty five. Con you flipped that last month. 56 00:02:48.719 --> 00:02:50.520 Un let's get all of something new. 57 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:54.000 Beginning of the year was a whole different situation for you, right, 58 00:02:54.000 --> 00:02:54.960 You were still working at. 59 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:59.080 The beginning of the year, right, Yeah, I didn't retire 60 00:02:59.159 --> 00:03:03.479 until April. Well, you know, and it was but it 61 00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:07.240 was you know, travel, travel, travel, travel, and the job 62 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:09.159 I was on was going to pieces by the end 63 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:12.560 of January, and by the end of February, I was 64 00:03:12.639 --> 00:03:15.080 up in the mountains looking at disaster relief. 65 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:18.599 Well you had. You know. I just recently got into 66 00:03:18.599 --> 00:03:20.520 an accident I'm not talking about but believe me, that's 67 00:03:20.520 --> 00:03:23.199 why I'm having such a hard time doing shows. And 68 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:26.000 I've been wanting to improve that, but I just haven't 69 00:03:26.039 --> 00:03:29.840 been able to. Honestly, either physically I'm unable to on 70 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:32.759 certain days or other days I've had obligations and then 71 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:34.719 I'm not able to get to the microphone on time, 72 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:37.319 so I haven't actually done my show much. Kind of 73 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:39.599 took the Christmas week off like a lot of people do. 74 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:44.360 Didn't even mean to do that. But you had like 75 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:47.439 an accident right before, didn't you, like, because there was 76 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:50.080 a problem. This whole thing started when you got like 77 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:52.120 a whole bunch of wire tangled up in your truck. 78 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:57.680 I think you told us, Yeah, I had a I 79 00:03:57.759 --> 00:04:00.879 had a power line drop on me. Someone up ahead 80 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:02.639 in a bunch of vehicles. There was a bunch of 81 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:08.199 box trucks, truck trailers, equipment on these mountains, thin mountain road, 82 00:04:08.719 --> 00:04:12.520 and because of the ice storms that they had had 83 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:14.639 hit about a week week and a half before, and 84 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:19.319 damage from the storm, of course, power line was hanging low, 85 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:21.959 and somebody clipped it, and there was a dump truck 86 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:23.240 in front of me, and then all of a sudden, 87 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:26.120 they swerved into the left hand lane like they were 88 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:29.279 dive bombing, and I look up and I got four 89 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:32.480 hundred foot of power line coming right down on top 90 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:35.680 of me. Right that was in March. Yeah, that was 91 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:37.439 in March, man. 92 00:04:37.560 --> 00:04:41.199 I mean, you know, look between that and a couple 93 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:43.800 of people connected to the show Dying, you'd almost think 94 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:47.079 that the universe is out to get us all. You know. 95 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:50.600 I don't know Man's right, but it was weird when 96 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:51.279 it happened. 97 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:54.639 I mean, it was a pure accident, and the safety 98 00:04:54.680 --> 00:04:58.600 people with corporations and insurance companies will always argue there 99 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:01.720 is no such thing as accident. Well, yeah there is, 100 00:05:02.439 --> 00:05:06.800 and I rode through it, so screwled. But after that, 101 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:08.720 I got to think, you know, I'm spending all my 102 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:12.920 time on the road because you know, there were some 103 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:15.759 times where I wasn't able to do Friday nights right 104 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:18.319 because of working on the hours that I was working 105 00:05:18.399 --> 00:05:19.279 during that time. 106 00:05:19.160 --> 00:05:22.959 Right, you were working crazy, And I said, forget it's yeah. 107 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:26.000 It's just not worth it anymore. Let's just sit back 108 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:27.920 and say screw this. 109 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:29.560 Well, let me let me ask you. 110 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:31.319 I want to drop a power line on my ass. 111 00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:32.439 I can do that at home. 112 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:35.040 Yeah, Well, let me ask you something, because you said 113 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:37.959 something pretty fascinating there to me, there's no such thing 114 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:41.279 as an accident. I would tend to agree with that, 115 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:44.319 is that everything is predictable so long as you have 116 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:47.680 all the insight you need, you know, like, in other words, 117 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:51.120 almost anything that's an accident is predictable. There's almost always 118 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:54.160 a way to find something that could have gone better. 119 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:57.959 You know, had we been better informed. You know, if 120 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:00.480 somebody was keeping an eye on that particular piece of 121 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:04.279 power line, that would have never happened. Right, So there's 122 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:06.439 always a way to avoid these things, and you can 123 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:09.079 see it start to happen. I mean, very few things 124 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:12.839 are completely instantaneous, you know what I mean. Like, there's 125 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:17.839 almost always a way to see things coming. So for 126 00:06:17.879 --> 00:06:19.920 there never to be an accident, from a certain point 127 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:23.480 of view, that would be true. But the impossibility is 128 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:26.199 to be informed on all things at all times, right, 129 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:28.480 I mean, or do you not see where I'm going 130 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:28.720 with that? 131 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:34.439 No? I see where you're going. And I understand. We 132 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:36.639 used to in the industry. We used to have these 133 00:06:36.759 --> 00:06:39.480 arguments all the time when we had safety meetings, and 134 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:42.839 somebody brought up the point You're out there beating the 135 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:46.560 bushes trying to find a right away marker, and you 136 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:50.360 happen to move past a bush that has a wasp's 137 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:53.759 nest in it, and you don't see it, and you 138 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:56.920 don't touch the bush, and suddenly you get stung by 139 00:06:56.959 --> 00:07:00.480 a wasp? Is that a true accident, and of course 140 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:03.360 the safety guys, oh no, you know, you should have 141 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:06.519 had proper equipment. And it's like, okay, well, you had 142 00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:10.199 all your personal safety equipment on, you went walking through there. 143 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:13.399 You didn't do anything to cause the situation. But a 144 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:18.240 wasp decides to light your butt up? How could you 145 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:23.519 have prevented that? Well, and we'd never come to an answer. 146 00:07:23.680 --> 00:07:26.240 What do you prevent a wasp a beasting? 147 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:29.399 Yeah, well, here you go. You could have prevented it 148 00:07:29.439 --> 00:07:32.120 by avoiding it, right, if you would have known it 149 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:34.040 was there. But you have a job to do. You 150 00:07:34.079 --> 00:07:36.920 can only focus on so much at a time. You 151 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:40.399 know the old expression you can't cover all bases, right, Like, 152 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:44.079 in other words, it is possible to catch every ball 153 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:47.680 that's hitting into a field in baseball. As long as 154 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:50.000 it's in the field to play, it can be caught. 155 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:51.800 It's just that simple. It can be caught. It can 156 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:55.639 be stopped, right, but you have to be in the 157 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:58.199 right place at the right time. You have to anticipate, 158 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:00.319 or you have to you know what I'm saying. So 159 00:08:00.480 --> 00:08:04.199 in other words, it's like saying, well, gee, if somebody 160 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:06.120 had paid attention, or there had been a way to 161 00:08:06.160 --> 00:08:09.000 detect the wasp or whatever it could have been done. 162 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:11.879 But you only have so much time as one human 163 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:14.839 being or even a team to cover so many things. 164 00:08:14.920 --> 00:08:18.000 Even again, in the baseball analogy, yeah, you got nine 165 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:20.800 people on the field, but they can't be in all 166 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:24.360 spots at all times, you know, And they can't cover 167 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:26.720 all spots at all times. That's kind of the point 168 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:31.040 of the game. No, so, you know, but in life, 169 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:33.600 that's the truth of it, right, because if somebody had 170 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:37.519 taken the time and very very carefully examined every square inch, 171 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:42.799 they would have seen the wasp desk. So an insurance, but. 172 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:45.000 Let's put it in the ballpark. I got one for you. 173 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:48.799 Batters up, bat, pitch comes across the plate, He smacks it, 174 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:52.320 knocks the snot out of it, and the bat breaks. 175 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:52.879 Yep. 176 00:08:53.000 --> 00:08:54.720 Is that preventable when it hits the pitcher? 177 00:08:56.440 --> 00:08:59.639 Well, yeah, it is preventable. It's just he has to 178 00:08:59.639 --> 00:09:01.440 ask quick enough reflexes. 179 00:09:02.559 --> 00:09:02.759 You know. 180 00:09:02.840 --> 00:09:05.919 Again, picture's laid out. Wait a minute, the picture is 181 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:09.639 laid out full stretch. After throwing the pitch, he hits it, 182 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:13.639 piece of broken bat immediately flies towards the pitcher and 183 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:16.000 if it hits him, now was that preventable. The only 184 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:17.639 way to prevent it, it would be to put up 185 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:19.639 a shield. Well, see, there's a difference, and you can't 186 00:09:19.679 --> 00:09:20.799 play the game well right. 187 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:24.559 But there's a difference between a reasonable accident, right or 188 00:09:25.080 --> 00:09:28.960 but everything is avoidable. In other words, it potentially everything 189 00:09:29.039 --> 00:09:32.919 is avoidable if that picture is you know, trained well 190 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:36.159 enough to step off and move it, because there are 191 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:38.919 plenty of people that are ready to move upon release 192 00:09:39.159 --> 00:09:41.679 and have quick reactions. I mean, I've seen some pictures 193 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:44.279 catch some stuff. You know, it's coming off with a 194 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:46.320 bat at one hundred and sixteen miles an hour. They 195 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:49.039 stick out of glove, they grab it like it's nothing. 196 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:50.000 I've seen that happen. 197 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:53.240 Yeah, I know, but still a piece of broken bat. 198 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:56.519 You never know, maybe not the picture, maybe his first baseman, 199 00:09:56.559 --> 00:09:59.399 who knows. But what I'm saying is there are true 200 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:04.440 accidents out there. They can't be avoided. It's just a 201 00:10:04.519 --> 00:10:06.480 freak of nature that they hit. 202 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:06.879 Well. 203 00:10:06.919 --> 00:10:09.399 See, it's difficult to it, but not according to the 204 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:12.399 insurance guys. The insurance guys say there are no such 205 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:13.200 thing as accidents. 206 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:14.919 We see, I say there are, But see, it may 207 00:10:14.919 --> 00:10:18.519 be a high difficulty to avoid that accident. Okay, it 208 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:20.960 may be extremely hard to avoid the accident, but it 209 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:24.200 doesn't mean it's not avoidable. You see, if he had 210 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:26.399 reacted just right and spun just the right way, you 211 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:28.679 could have spun out of the way to bat. You 212 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:32.159 know what I mean. It's just a matter of what 213 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:35.440 is reasonable to avoid and what is not reasonable to avoid. 214 00:10:36.279 --> 00:10:38.440 You see what I'm saying. It's a matter reasonable as 215 00:10:38.440 --> 00:10:43.279 opposed to you know, can it be avoided all to avoided? Right? 216 00:10:45.159 --> 00:10:47.360 I don't know that everything can be avoided. You know, 217 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:49.639 you got a ball traveling it's say one hundred miles 218 00:10:49.639 --> 00:10:52.240 an hour. It's a fastball. That bat hits it, it 219 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:54.559 breaks equal reaction is going to be one hundred mile 220 00:10:54.600 --> 00:10:57.879 an hour piece of bat flying off? And what is 221 00:10:57.879 --> 00:11:00.720 it forty five feet to the pitcher's my own? Yep, 222 00:11:02.840 --> 00:11:06.360 you know that's traveling pretty damn fast. I think it's 223 00:11:06.399 --> 00:11:10.200 kind of hard to avoid, hard to avoid, and you 224 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:12.799 could avoid it by not playing the game. But then 225 00:11:12.879 --> 00:11:13.919 you don't play the game. 226 00:11:14.039 --> 00:11:16.720 Well there's that. Or a pitcher can learn to land. 227 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:18.639 You know, they tried to teach us in Little League 228 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:21.440 to land so that you could field the ball, so 229 00:11:21.480 --> 00:11:23.519 you could be ready to field, not to fall down. 230 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:27.080 You know, they tried for maximum velocity with a lot 231 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:29.000 of these guys, and it doesn't matter how you land. 232 00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:34.480 But you know, but the that is coming back at 233 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:36.799 you just as fast as you threw that ball. 234 00:11:38.120 --> 00:11:41.159 Well maybe faster even, I don't know. The point is, though, 235 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:45.120 it's still avoidable. It's just difficult to do. 236 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:50.000 Yeah, yeah, just yeah. You've been the safety guy and 237 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:52.480 I'll be the employee you're writing up. 238 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:54.840 But you see what I'm saying. I'm not saying that 239 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:57.360 it's not reasonable or that I wouldn't judge something. Okay, 240 00:11:57.519 --> 00:11:59.960 that was kind of like not your fault. See, now 241 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:04.080 there's a difference between ascribing fault and saying something couldn't 242 00:12:04.120 --> 00:12:06.519 be avoided. You know what I mean. If you got 243 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:08.600 something coming at you one hundred and some miles an hour, 244 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:10.879 you get hit by it, I can't really fault you 245 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:14.879 because you know, reaction time is difficult. It's like trying 246 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:16.879 to avoid a bullet, you know. 247 00:12:17.919 --> 00:12:21.480 Well, and that's what killed me on this It got clipped. 248 00:12:21.840 --> 00:12:24.200 That wire got clipped at the far end. It was 249 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:26.799 like three hundred feet away from me in front of me, right, 250 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:28.559 and this dump truck is in front of me and 251 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:31.720 all this other traffic, and I didn't notice what was 252 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:34.480 happening until the dump truck in front of me suddenly 253 00:12:34.559 --> 00:12:37.919 dove into the left lane, even with oncoming traffic. He 254 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:41.399 locked them up and just dive bombed into the opposite lane. 255 00:12:42.039 --> 00:12:45.120 And when I look up, boom, I got wires coming 256 00:12:45.159 --> 00:12:46.840 down on top of me that fast. I mean, there's 257 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:47.840 really no way to react. 258 00:12:47.960 --> 00:12:51.159 Yeah, it's just like the WASP. It's just like the wasp. Though. 259 00:12:51.320 --> 00:12:56.320 You know, if observation was better, right, if observation was 260 00:12:56.360 --> 00:13:00.519 improved somehow, you could have avoided that. And so could 261 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:02.440 that guy have avoided the dump trunk, could have avoid 262 00:13:02.840 --> 00:13:05.039 you see what I mean if observation, Well. 263 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:08.600 Unless I've got well, unless I've got something coming directly 264 00:13:08.639 --> 00:13:10.639 at me in my lane, I am not diving into 265 00:13:10.639 --> 00:13:12.799 the opposite lane of traffic behind a dump truck. 266 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:13.240 No. 267 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:14.919 Look, for all I know, he's getting ready to wipe 268 00:13:14.960 --> 00:13:17.440 out a bus full of orphans, and I don't want 269 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:18.159 to be behind him. 270 00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:20.840 Right, No, it's reasonable for you to not to get 271 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:24.240 hit by that thing. It's a reasonable occurrence. But the 272 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:27.840 idea that you know, yeah, all accidents are preventable, that's true, 273 00:13:27.919 --> 00:13:30.519 but it would require something, you know, it could be 274 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:33.039 extraordinary what it requires to avoid that accident. 275 00:13:34.759 --> 00:13:36.559 But I mean it takes something like that, and you 276 00:13:36.559 --> 00:13:38.879 think about you know, I'm putting in what I'd had 277 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:41.320 an average of thirty hours home a week for the 278 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:44.080 past month and a half and you know, five years 279 00:13:44.120 --> 00:13:46.840 before that. So you know, it's little things like that 280 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:49.799 that makes you think it's time to sit back and 281 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:52.080 watch my grass grow. 282 00:13:52.799 --> 00:13:55.679 And there's a cost value judgment there, you know, like 283 00:13:55.759 --> 00:13:56.840 what is Oh yeah. 284 00:13:56.919 --> 00:14:00.120 It's well worth. Its the best decision I made. 285 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:02.279 There, you go. So as long as you're happy with 286 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:04.279 the decision. And that's the thing. Look, you got out 287 00:14:04.279 --> 00:14:06.519 of the situation in one piece, which is usually the 288 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:10.639 important thing. But not to the accident guy, you know. 289 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:15.240 Scruit company. Yeah, see, that was the thing there was 290 00:14:15.320 --> 00:14:18.399 really and that's what the insurance company was ticked off about. 291 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:20.039 It is they didn't have anybody to blame it on. 292 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:22.879 The They didn't have they didn't have a license number 293 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:25.840 of whoever clipped that wire. Oh you know, and it 294 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:29.120 totally This was a brand new truck and when those 295 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:34.799 wires when they dropped, they hit the truck, well two 296 00:14:34.840 --> 00:14:38.519 of them hit the truck right below the grill where 297 00:14:38.559 --> 00:14:42.919 the bumper is, and there's a gap in there on 298 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:47.159 the new chevies, and it just threaded its way. It's 299 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:49.120 like you put took a piece of dental floss and 300 00:14:49.159 --> 00:14:50.919 put it in the gap at the bumper and pulled 301 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:52.360 it all the way to the back of the truck. 302 00:14:53.600 --> 00:14:53.879 Right. 303 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:56.120 I mean, that's how bad it was. It tore up everything. 304 00:14:56.360 --> 00:14:59.679 It's amazing. And it locked. The other one got locked 305 00:14:59.679 --> 00:15:03.399 around a back axle. It looped over the wheel twice 306 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:07.159 while I was still moving trying to stop. Oh so 307 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:10.000 I was locked. I couldn't pull forward, I couldn't pull backwards. 308 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:12.159 Right. All I keep thinking of is how people get 309 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:15.159 tangled up in razor wire, you know, and uh and 310 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:17.679 and oh yeah, you know it's like that. Anyway, Look, 311 00:15:17.720 --> 00:15:20.639 you can join this conversation at three one nine five 312 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:23.440 two seven five zero one six. It looks like we're 313 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:26.320 broadcasting out there live and everything. I don't know. I'm 314 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:27.840 not looking in the chat room. Are you in the 315 00:15:27.919 --> 00:15:29.799 chat room? 316 00:15:30.399 --> 00:15:32.200 I was, but I was looking at and yeah, I'm 317 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:33.840 the only one in there right now. I was looking 318 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:38.279 at the what boxing day actually was a description. 319 00:15:38.879 --> 00:15:41.919 Oh cool, you can do that, I'll tell you. I 320 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:45.000 was looking at old TV clips. You know, there's a 321 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:48.320 lot of old TV like vhs that people recorded that 322 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:51.559 they transferred over to YouTube, and that was like, you know, 323 00:15:51.639 --> 00:15:53.639 the viral rage a few years ago is you know, 324 00:15:53.720 --> 00:15:55.919 local TV that people were showing and now it's you know, 325 00:15:55.960 --> 00:15:58.639 boring to everybody. But I was looking back at some 326 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:01.960 local TV on YouTube and it was pretty wild. 327 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:02.279 Man. 328 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:06.960 I found some stuff, really interesting things that were happening 329 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:09.519 in the late eighties that appeared to be again happening 330 00:16:09.559 --> 00:16:13.120 forty years later. So you know, I might do a 331 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:17.480 little show on that coming up soon, because you know, 332 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:20.240 the recurrent themes, the things that never seemed to get fixed, 333 00:16:20.279 --> 00:16:22.759 and the arguments we came to seem to keep having 334 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:27.240 forty years later. That's two generations, you know. I mean, 335 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:31.200 it's the same argument that we're having. I was looking 336 00:16:31.200 --> 00:16:35.480 at daytime TV and even nighttime TV in New York 337 00:16:35.559 --> 00:16:38.960 City and coming out of a Channel nine, especially in 338 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:42.200 New York, which was wild. That's where Morton Downey Junior 339 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:45.720 came from, if you remember that guy, And there was 340 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:48.120 also a guy named Richard Bay, and there was a 341 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:50.000 few other ones Wally George. 342 00:16:50.320 --> 00:16:53.960 Remember I remember Richard Bay, right, he. 343 00:16:53.919 --> 00:16:57.440 Got popular for a minute. That was during that time 344 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:01.000 when everybody pretty much stole building on a Phil donohue's 345 00:17:01.399 --> 00:17:04.599 format and uh and ran with it and did it 346 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:06.440 their own way. And that's how we got Oprah and 347 00:17:06.440 --> 00:17:08.160 that's how we got Jerry Springer eventually. 348 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:12.960 But there was at started where Chicago. Yeah didn't she 349 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:14.559 start on a local Chicago station? 350 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:19.359 Right? Right? But remember Haraldo took the format and ran 351 00:17:19.400 --> 00:17:21.279 with it. You know that audience and now we're gonna 352 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:24.960 have the audience ask questions and uh, you know again, 353 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:28.839 Oprah did it, Richard Bay did it? Uh? Ricky Lake? 354 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:30.359 Remember Ricky Lake? 355 00:17:31.799 --> 00:17:32.640 Oh yeah, of course. 356 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:34.480 Yeah. So I mean I'm just saying, you. 357 00:17:34.480 --> 00:17:37.319 Know, it's funny you had you had two styles too, 358 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:41.039 really that that worked out of it. You had you 359 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:44.279 had the Phil Donahue and the people, and you know 360 00:17:44.440 --> 00:17:49.759 Oprah eventually worked into that when she went national. You 361 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:52.880 had that style. Did you have the Morton Downey Junior 362 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:57.400 and the Haraldo's that kind of veered off to the 363 00:17:57.480 --> 00:18:01.920 Jerry Springer side of things. Yep, it's it's it's really 364 00:18:01.960 --> 00:18:04.200 weird though, you know, the and it was it was 365 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:06.960 a dichotomy you either one or the other. You're either 366 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:08.680 serious or you were Jerry Springer. 367 00:18:08.880 --> 00:18:11.160 Well, i'll tell you another funny thing is you remember 368 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:13.920 our Senio Hall, Right, he was big for a second, 369 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:16.920 like as the Uh, this is the new generations in 370 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:19.319 the nineties, right, the nineties is the new generation. And 371 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:23.599 this is our version of like you know Johnny Carson, right. 372 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:26.720 Yeah, that's where yeah, that's where Bill Clinton, you know, 373 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:28.559 got famous playing the saxophone. 374 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:31.240 Bill Clinton won a lot of voters playing the saxophone. 375 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:33.759 I include myself in that because I remember seeing that, 376 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:39.400 you know, live and going Okay, that's different but very 377 00:18:39.680 --> 00:18:42.039 But the truth is uh, and I voted for him. 378 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:43.720 I told you this and one of the things, look, 379 00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:44.920 what do you want me to do? It's first time 380 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:49.720 I got a chance to vote. That's what I did. Anyway. Uh. 381 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:52.400 It was weird though, because really I like the Libertarian 382 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:56.480 Party of that that presidential cycle more than anything, but 383 00:18:56.559 --> 00:19:01.599 their presidential candidate was excuse me at dog, So you 384 00:19:01.640 --> 00:19:05.880 know it was like Bill Clinton. Okay, anyhow, forget all that. 385 00:19:05.920 --> 00:19:09.079 What I noted was, you know that whole like Ursineo's 386 00:19:09.319 --> 00:19:15.240 audience used to bark, they were all right, well you 387 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:20.720 know that really originated with Morton Downey Junior, the audience 388 00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:21.119 doing that. 389 00:19:21.400 --> 00:19:25.319 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Morton. You know, I'm surprised that 390 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:27.839 he didn't last longer than he did. 391 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:30.960 You need to look back at these tapes, you know what, 392 00:19:31.039 --> 00:19:33.680 I'll send you a link because you'll realize why he 393 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:35.799 didn't last. Oh. 394 00:19:35.839 --> 00:19:37.359 His shows were pure chaos. 395 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:39.400 I mean, yeah, it was one trick pony. 396 00:19:39.480 --> 00:19:44.759 Yeah and yeah. Everything would eventually evolve into him standing 397 00:19:44.839 --> 00:19:46.559 up and having this you know, a shouting match with 398 00:19:46.599 --> 00:19:47.039 the camera. 399 00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:50.079 Well, he would just smoke a cigarette, run around, scream 400 00:19:50.200 --> 00:19:52.200 that all the liberals were what they call what do 401 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:56.960 you call him, pablum puking liberals, right, pablum puking liberals 402 00:19:57.000 --> 00:20:00.279 that do nothing. And he you know, he's and I'm 403 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:02.480 a conservative and I'll tell you what, no, no, no no, 404 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:05.039 And he told everybody off. And that was pretty much 405 00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:06.960 a show. You know, he got people on that were 406 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:10.000 definitely going to argue with each other, you know, putting 407 00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:12.640 up like the Klan and the uh the Congress for 408 00:20:12.759 --> 00:20:18.400 Racial Equality, right, the core guys remember the and oh yeah, 409 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:20.480 you know, and stuff like that. But he's also the 410 00:20:20.519 --> 00:20:24.240 first guy to show Ron Paul to the whole country, uh, 411 00:20:24.279 --> 00:20:30.319 and other weird stuff, right, Plus he'd have people debating. Yeah, yeah, good. 412 00:20:31.240 --> 00:20:34.200 Thinking about Haroaldo didn't he wasn't he the one that 413 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:41.640 had the the Communists, the Nazis and was it the Klan? 414 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:43.400 Who was it he had on that show where he 415 00:20:43.440 --> 00:20:44.759 got hit with the chair in the nose? 416 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:46.240 Yeah, he had like the I. 417 00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:48.519 Know it was the clan and somebody, right, it was. 418 00:20:48.440 --> 00:20:51.920 A neo Nazi that like turned around And that's that's 419 00:20:51.960 --> 00:20:54.599 the funny thing, is like, Okay, so Heraldo's picking up 420 00:20:54.640 --> 00:20:58.319 steam and Morton Downey's starting to peter out already, because again, 421 00:20:58.359 --> 00:21:00.359 like I said, he's a one trick pony. If you 422 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:02.359 get tired of people just screaming at each other on 423 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:05.240 the show, I mean you're done with Morton Downey, right, 424 00:21:05.920 --> 00:21:08.599 And uh so Heraldo gets this whole thing where the 425 00:21:08.640 --> 00:21:12.160 studio erupts and uh, you know Morton Downy had had 426 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:16.640 a fight between was it Roy Ennis and uh and 427 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:19.119 the guy who was running one of the white supremacist 428 00:21:19.160 --> 00:21:22.160 groups and Roy Innis ended up choking him on stage 429 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:26.440 in front of the audience. Metzger, Yeah, that's it. And 430 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:29.920 uh and then Heraldo has a whole studio break out 431 00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:33.319 into like a barroom blitz and he gets his chair 432 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:35.559 broken by it broke, you know, he gets his nose 433 00:21:35.599 --> 00:21:39.759 broken by a chair and all that. Then Morton Downey Junior. 434 00:21:39.920 --> 00:21:42.880 Now the funniest part about this everybody forgets this is 435 00:21:42.920 --> 00:21:46.160 Morton Downey Junior goes into an airport and fakes an 436 00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:50.319 attack on himself that the neo Nazis attacked him and spraying. 437 00:21:50.599 --> 00:21:55.240 Remember that, I remember that. Yeah, oh man, that's a lot. 438 00:21:55.319 --> 00:21:56.319 That's a while back. 439 00:21:56.920 --> 00:21:59.240 Yeah, But it's because he was starting to fall in 440 00:21:59.319 --> 00:22:03.279 the ratings and these other shows were beating him because 441 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:05.960 they had more outrageous stuff and it was just done better, 442 00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:09.920 you know. And plus you weren't. I mean, Moore was 443 00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:13.079 an ugly looking guy too, big old huge mole on 444 00:22:13.119 --> 00:22:16.480 the side of his face and frigging and he's smoking 445 00:22:16.519 --> 00:22:22.440 and blowing his smoke in everybody's face, right, Plus he 446 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:24.799 was one of these guys that like, you know, was 447 00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:30.240 like attacking, like you know, like AIDS is a punishment 448 00:22:30.279 --> 00:22:33.279 from God kind of thing and and all that. Even 449 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:35.279 though he had his brother on the show who had AIDS, 450 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:38.400 and he was like, yeah, well, you know, I didn't 451 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:39.680 want to talk to you, and I hated you because 452 00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:42.119 you were gay anyway, but now I'm having you on 453 00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:44.319 because you have aids and people got weird about that. 454 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:48.160 And he just was not going to fit going forward 455 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:50.039 into the nineties. There was no way that they were 456 00:22:50.079 --> 00:22:54.920 going to keep him popular on TV, you know. But anyhow, 457 00:22:54.960 --> 00:22:57.759 all this craziness is going on, he's losing in the ratings, 458 00:22:58.279 --> 00:23:01.000 and then he goes into an airport path. No crap, 459 00:23:01.039 --> 00:23:03.319 this is what they found out later, and he claims 460 00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:06.759 that these neo Nazis, his skinheads beat him up and 461 00:23:06.839 --> 00:23:11.400 sprayed him. Uh spade printed a swastik on his face. 462 00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:15.079 Remember that, Yeah, I remember that? 463 00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:17.839 Oh ye god. And it was all because Arroldo had 464 00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:26.160 his nose broken by the neo Nazis. And then they 465 00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:27.960 found out he faked it and everything else, and then 466 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:30.599 they found out he was like, you know, abusive to 467 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:33.839 people and like you know, doing weird things like that 468 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:36.759 Limo company that was always sponsoring his show in the Earth, 469 00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:41.119 he would like like piss and containers in the limo 470 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:43.039 and just leave him in there for the Limo guy 471 00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:47.960 to clean out. His weird stuff like that he was doing, 472 00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:50.119 and and then he just he thought he was huge. 473 00:23:50.119 --> 00:23:50.279 He was. 474 00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:52.880 He was at one of the WrestleMania's Morton Downey Jr. 475 00:23:54.079 --> 00:23:57.119 Did you remember that. Yeah, they put him in Piper's pit. 476 00:24:01.480 --> 00:24:04.039 Talk about it, you know, but you think about it though, 477 00:24:04.119 --> 00:24:08.039 the publicity that they were getting back then and some 478 00:24:08.119 --> 00:24:12.039 of the avenues that professional wrestling was going in. Morton 479 00:24:12.079 --> 00:24:13.880 Townty Junior. Hell, he was a perfect ZiT. 480 00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:17.480 No, he fit a lot better. I mean they did 481 00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:19.480 a lot better going on that, you know, dealing with him. 482 00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:21.559 They're going on the Richard Belt. 483 00:24:21.880 --> 00:24:22.960 Didn't use him more. 484 00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:27.480 Yeah, me too. But again, his popularity just as fast 485 00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:29.880 as it, you know, it kind of skyrocketed out of 486 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:34.039 nowhere from doing just a local show on uh. And 487 00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:37.240 that's the funny thing. Channel nine was not part of 488 00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:41.160 a major network. It was an independent TV station and 489 00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:44.440 it's it's a weird station because it's actually in New 490 00:24:44.519 --> 00:24:45.839 Jersey in Secaucus. 491 00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:50.519 But I was going to ask you, yeah, back do 492 00:24:50.640 --> 00:24:54.519 you remember back during nine to eleven, Yeah, there was 493 00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:57.000 a local access station and I don't know if it 494 00:24:57.079 --> 00:25:00.319 was in Jersey or do you York. They used to 495 00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:06.359 have guys on that would debate, you know, but they 496 00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:08.400 didn't have a report out by that time, but they 497 00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:12.039 would debate things going on. Stuff that was you know, 498 00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:16.599 we were seeing on the internet, but they actually would 499 00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:19.519 sat down and have debates over it. I cannot remember. 500 00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:24.119 I spent many an hour watching those things, and they 501 00:25:24.279 --> 00:25:26.680 used to be on YouTube, but I can't find them. 502 00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:30.680 I'm wondering if they got taken down during the Great Purge, 503 00:25:31.039 --> 00:25:34.279 but because it was nine to eleven, probably, but I 504 00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:36.920 would spend hours watching those things and some of the 505 00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:39.200 obscure stuff that they were coming up with on it. 506 00:25:39.519 --> 00:25:40.920 Do you remember those. 507 00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:42.960 Of in that area, Well, yeah, there was a couple 508 00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:45.559 of channels that did stuff like that, and they were 509 00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:50.559 only for the local area. One was called New York one, 510 00:25:50.799 --> 00:25:54.920 and that was supposedly Channel I think that's yeah, good, I. 511 00:25:54.880 --> 00:25:57.279 Think that's the one I was watching clips from. 512 00:25:57.480 --> 00:26:00.480 Well, probably that, and then if you saw one from 513 00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:04.000 New Jersey, it's this weird anomaly in New Jersey called 514 00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:09.079 Channel eight and Channel eight's kind of like in Atlanta. 515 00:26:09.400 --> 00:26:09.920 Channel Yeah. 516 00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:13.079 Channel eight wasn't that the one that would have like 517 00:26:13.160 --> 00:26:15.960 regular programming during the day, but at nighttime they would 518 00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:20.680 kick over to like small local access stuff. 519 00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:24.759 No, No, there was lots of local access in Jersey 520 00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:29.200 and New York. But Channel eight was was basically just 521 00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:32.200 known as a news channel and then sometimes they ran 522 00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:34.640 like you know, the Beverly Hillbillies on there or whatever. 523 00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:37.000 But aside from that. 524 00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:41.400 I remember one channel that up until about I think 525 00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:44.000 up until about six o'clock, they would end with a 526 00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:48.960 news their local kind of news breakdown, and then it 527 00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:52.880 would go to strictly local access stuff out of some 528 00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:57.039 back studio in all in the building. But they would 529 00:26:57.039 --> 00:27:02.759 sit down and have debates, discussions and like table talk 530 00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:06.119 and crap like that. Well, that reminds me of it 531 00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:08.440 would only switch after about seven o'clock at night. 532 00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:11.240 Yeah, that reminds me of something called New Jersey Network, 533 00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:15.599 which used to do that, and they had just a 534 00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:18.079 low rent kind of Yeah, they were like an overgrown 535 00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:21.799 access TV. See. Access TV is just one of these 536 00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:24.279 things that your local cable companies used to have, right 537 00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:25.559 in a lot of different. 538 00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:29.200 Locations, right, Yeah. 539 00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:31.039 But Jersey had, well, Jersey and New York had like 540 00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:34.720 some overgrown access TV stuff that was kind of like 541 00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:37.119 way more popular than it should have been. Usually it 542 00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:39.920 would have been like you know, you see it, like 543 00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:42.759 it would be this obscure in New Jersey. Maybe you 544 00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:45.440 saw this show in Tom's River, and then you go 545 00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:49.079 over to the next county and that same channel would 546 00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:52.200 give you totally different shows, and people would actually pay 547 00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:55.039 to go on there and do whatever they wanted on 548 00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:59.759 the TV station, you know what I mean. So again, 549 00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:02.039 in the days before YouTube or whatever, like let's just 550 00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:04.599 say you got these guys who wanted to just talk 551 00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:08.480 Battlestar Galactica, right, you know, they want to talk about 552 00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:12.000 the nineteen seventies TV show, and they would have a 553 00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:16.119 half hour TV show on these public access things, you know, 554 00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:20.119 or somebody would come out and go, Okay, we're gonna 555 00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:24.200 just film me working in my garden, you know, and 556 00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:26.319 they would call it like a gardening show or whatever, 557 00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:29.119 and they would just be you know, some lady that 558 00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:31.200 you know went down there and paid two hundred bucks 559 00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:35.079 or whatever to have a weekly show. But there were 560 00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:38.160 access channels like that in a bunch of different counties 561 00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:42.519 in Jersey and New York had had a huge couple 562 00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:45.039 of them, And one of them is too funny because 563 00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:49.519 it kind of got taken over by the pornography. Because 564 00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:51.839 what happened is there was like a couple of TV 565 00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:57.079 shows on this public access thing, and the guys who 566 00:28:57.119 --> 00:29:01.319 ran like you know, porno shops started by all the time, 567 00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:04.680 so they were doing TV shows on porno like come 568 00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:07.960 down to you know Jerry's House of Video or whatever, 569 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:09.880 and we have you know, newdie boots, and we have 570 00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:13.599 and we have sex toys and all this stuff. So 571 00:29:13.640 --> 00:29:16.680 they started advertising that stuff like at chapter ten o'clock 572 00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:19.440 at night. But also these guys started to buy TV shows. 573 00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:22.240 So then they would buy a TV show and they'd 574 00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:25.720 go get a sponsor, so it would be like, you know, 575 00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:29.039 Jerry's Jerry's House of Video brought to you by Adam 576 00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:34.279 and Eve Video Productions, you know, so like a pornography 577 00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:36.559 thing would sponsor them. And then you know, in the 578 00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:40.519 age of the big phone lines, remember the nine seven 579 00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:43.640 six phone lines and all that, call up and you 580 00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:46.640 can talk to you know this or that, or call 581 00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:48.759 up and get a psychic or whatever. And there were 582 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.880 hundreds of different kinds the one nine hundred numbers remember those. 583 00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:57.119 Yeah, So obviously. 584 00:29:56.680 --> 00:29:59.039 The porno shop would go get nine hundred numbers that 585 00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:03.400 were all sex line. So by the time they were 586 00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:05.759 done with it, it was like from ten o'clock to 587 00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:10.319 four in the morning was like all guys who bought 588 00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:14.599 time on there for porno, you know, porno shops, and 589 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:19.119 sometimes they would show like weird like softcore porn and 590 00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:21.720 then just run commercials because they would make money with it, 591 00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:24.279 you know, because they'd go and buy the show for 592 00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:27.119 two hundred bucks and then they'd sell five hundred dollars 593 00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:32.640 worth advertising. And that grew into a whole channel. 594 00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:34.400 How times have changed. 595 00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:36.680 Yeah, that grew into a whole channel called Channel J. 596 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:40.519 And one of the most famous things like the guy 597 00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:44.559 who ran Screw magazine had like a two hour block 598 00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:50.440 on there, and I think the guy who ran Palco yeah, right, 599 00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:55.920 and back in the days when Robin was remember when 600 00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:57.960 Rob Low had a sex tape. I mean like you know, 601 00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:00.839 legitimately somebody had to run around and hand out bhs's 602 00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:03.240 to get your sex tape around all sell them, right, 603 00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:06.680 So this guy was running an ad where all he 604 00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:11.440 did is sell Rob Loos sex tape and UH and 605 00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:13.720 the Go Gos as a bonus, the band the Go 606 00:31:13.720 --> 00:31:19.559 Gos like being sexually abusive to UH male Groupees. And 607 00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:21.839 he had a videotape that was like two hours of this. 608 00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:26.720 He just sold that like on one of his whole hours. 609 00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:27.119 That's all. 610 00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:29.599 It was the act. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, 611 00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:30.880 the actual Go Gos. 612 00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:35.680 Yeah, yeah, the Go Gos like you know, wait. 613 00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:40.240 A minute, wait at the Go Gos being sexually abusive 614 00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:41.160 towards men. 615 00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:44.000 Get toward male groupies, like groupies that like, oh I 616 00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:45.680 love the Go Gos, and they'd be like, yeah, come 617 00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:49.319 on backstage, and then they'd you know, humiliate them and 618 00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:51.079 pr Go Gos. 619 00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:56.319 Yeah, the actual no no no no, no no, I 620 00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:59.160 say that the Carlisle is not peeing on somebody in 621 00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:00.759 a studio in the hack and sack. 622 00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:03.200 I'm trying to tell you this was a real thing. 623 00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:07.079 They actually had this, you know, hidden video of the 624 00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:13.200 Go Gos abusing multiple male groupies. It's no, I'm not kidding. 625 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:16.400 Is this still out there? 626 00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:19.160 And the Robo sex tape, I don't know. I never 627 00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:24.119 bought one, but yeah they did that. And uh, like 628 00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:25.799 I said, I don't know how they got away with 629 00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:29.519 selling the Roblo sex tape, but I have to ask. 630 00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:31.839 I'll have to send a message and ask Nature Boy 631 00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:34.519 about that. If it's out there, he would know about. 632 00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:36.880 It, I bet you. But if he can't find it, 633 00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:40.000 I swear to you it existed. Uh and and I 634 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:40.920 know it existedly. 635 00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:49.440 Oh the actual go Gos sim domming on their fanboys, kay. 636 00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:53.400 And it was like it was like a bonus feature 637 00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:57.039 to the Roblo sex tape that I mean, they probably 638 00:32:57.079 --> 00:33:02.079 suit him. But it was at least a year in 639 00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:04.640 the mid nineties that I saw that commercial on there. 640 00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:07.359 Every night, they it ran like almost like clockwork. You 641 00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:09.599 could turn it on at like well whatever time it was, 642 00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:12.880 like twelve thirty, and it would be on where they'd 643 00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:15.000 run like a three minute commercial at least, and they 644 00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:16.960 keep running it like they would just run you know, 645 00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:20.400 other crap in between, you know, what's going on in 646 00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:23.240 the uh in the sex business. Here's a you know. 647 00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:25.680 And oh and there was another show they had with 648 00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:28.200 a guy who just uh oh no, no, no, not 649 00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:33.240 a guy, a girl. Her name was Robin Oh my god, 650 00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:36.240 Robin something or other. She was like this old, way 651 00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:40.160 too old to be stripping stripper. And she did a 652 00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:44.279 talk show. So in between her little talk show guests 653 00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:46.640 which she would have on for five minutes, and they 654 00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:50.559 were like weird, like semi local celebrities and stuff. Robin Bird, 655 00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:54.640 that's what her name was. Robin Bird, and like I say, 656 00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:56.400 she was like a stripper, but she looked like she 657 00:33:56.400 --> 00:33:59.680 was about fifty, So she'd still be dressed in her like, 658 00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:02.920 you know, stripper gear, but she wouldn't be stripping. And 659 00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:08.199 what she would do is she would feature local strippers. So, okay, 660 00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:11.599 you know, miss Melody Candy is going to be at 661 00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:14.679 the Pleasure Palace on the nineteenth. Here's a little sample, 662 00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:19.159 and they would have the girl strip on camera, you know, 663 00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:21.360 go all the way down to the skin and go 664 00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:22.960 you want to see more, go over to the Pleasure 665 00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:25.519 Palace between the nineteenth and the twenty first or whatever. 666 00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:29.119 And then she would intersplice it with like a quick 667 00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:32.880 five minute interview. Like there were guys with like you know, 668 00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:35.960 these six man football teams or whatever locally you know 669 00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:38.880 where they get uniforms. They have like a league or 670 00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:41.719 like the adult men's Baseball League, the over thirty Baseball 671 00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:44.679 League or whatever. So she'd like interview a team of 672 00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:48.880 guys from one of those, you know, talk to them 673 00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:50.960 and they'd be like, oh, you got a strip for us, Robin, 674 00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:55.199 And she's like, you know, like fifty and they're like, yeah, 675 00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:57.199 you got a strip for us, baby, And oh no, 676 00:34:57.280 --> 00:34:59.519 I couldn't here. Let's go to this stripper and then 677 00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:03.239 she cut away to another stripper. And yeah, that was 678 00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:06.320 a whole other either half hour hour long show. And 679 00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:08.320 that one actually got kind of famous because she got 680 00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:13.639 a couple of like, you know, decent famous guests, like 681 00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:21.280 Howard Stern. I think he even did her show. Yeah, wow, yeah, 682 00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:24.199 I mean it was weird and like, oh, Bob GUCCIONI, 683 00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:30.559 she got him. The guy who did a Penthouse magazine, right, yeah. 684 00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:34.400 He was also the publisher of Omni magazine, which was 685 00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:37.639 a very good magazine. I really enjoyed that one. It 686 00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:42.159 was all sci fi and it was just amazing. I 687 00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:46.079 mean you wouldn't you wouldn't associate it with him because 688 00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:48.679 he was, you know, publishing Penthouse, but it was. It 689 00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:50.719 was a great read. If you can find any old 690 00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:51.440 copies of it. 691 00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:53.559 Well, it's just like the guy who published Hustler. He 692 00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:56.800 published a lot of other stuff too, you know. 693 00:35:57.440 --> 00:35:59.840 Yeah, but there for a while though, Larry Flynn just 694 00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:03.280 stuck with Hustler. That was his money maker. 695 00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:04.639 That's what made money. And then when he got put 696 00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:06.000 in the wheelchair, what were we going to do? 697 00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:06.519 You know? 698 00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:12.480 Uh, you know, because they shot him somebody. 699 00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:16.760 Yeah, yeah, but I think he really got famous over 700 00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:18.159 the Jerry Fallwell flap. 701 00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:21.480 See that made a lot of people's careers, right, the 702 00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:25.000 big old you know, and a bunch of lawyers. Yeah, 703 00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:27.079 and that's in the days of weird stuff like you know, 704 00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:30.440 everybody for what about Jessica Hahn remember her as a character? 705 00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:34.119 I mean, you know, she was the victim there of 706 00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:40.280 Jim Jim Baker, right, oh yeah, and Tammy Faye up 707 00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:42.400 until a few years ago, I think is still out 708 00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:44.159 there with like some new preacher husband. 709 00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:49.880 No, she passed away, Oh did she? Yeah, Tammy Fay died. 710 00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:53.519 Now Jim Baker's back out there selling survival meals in 711 00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:55.800 a bucket. Oh, I mixed it with a little bit 712 00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:56.960 of salvation on top. 713 00:36:57.199 --> 00:36:59.119 Well, I mixed it up. I was thinking of that. 714 00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:00.960 I was going to bring up meals in a bucket 715 00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:05.079 next because apparently they didn't do that. Well, there's people 716 00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:05.760 sewing them over. 717 00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:11.880 Let's see Tammy Faye Baker, Let's see when she kicked off. 718 00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:15.800 See, I had it back forget I thought Jim died 719 00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:18.159 and Tammy Fay was still alive. I had it backwards. 720 00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:20.960 Two thousand and seven. 721 00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.920 I'm just thinking back though, thinking back over all this 722 00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:27.519 stuff and just saying to myself, you know, we had 723 00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:31.239 no Internet, and yet we pulled off this crazy like 724 00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:35.639 trash subculture, you know, even without an Internet. Because people say, oh, 725 00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:38.039 you know the junk culture is because of the Internet. 726 00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:42.719 I don't think so. I think that, you know, the trash. 727 00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:43.920 And started it. 728 00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:47.800 Yeah, well maybe cable started maybe, but then again a 729 00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:50.159 lot of stuff happened without it. I'm just saying, I 730 00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:54.079 think no matter what technology you have, the the the 731 00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:56.199 greasy stuff is going to find a way, you know 732 00:37:56.239 --> 00:37:58.599 what I mean, Like nature finds a way. You know, 733 00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:03.440 what's what's greasy, sallacious and like dirty. It's just it's 734 00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:05.320 going to find a way to creep it just is, 735 00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:09.559 you know. So we're out of the days when people 736 00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:13.400 actually have magazines, you know, but you know, and and 737 00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:15.639 also people used to wait for like a half hour 738 00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:19.119 for one dirty picture to load on their computers. You know, 739 00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:23.000 the technology will improve eventually, but no matter what technology 740 00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:25.920 you have, people find a way to pass around there. 741 00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:31.119 You know. Basis most what do you call that altogether? 742 00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:33.719 Just trashy behavior. I don't know what to put the 743 00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:35.840 whole category in what do you think? 744 00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:40.880 Hmm, I don't know. I think on that one something 745 00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:42.159 that would be all encompassing. 746 00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:44.559 Yeah, there's got to be a term for it though, right, 747 00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:48.159 like just the the trashy, the worst part, the worst 748 00:38:48.199 --> 00:38:53.039 byproducts of American culture all folded into one, whether it's 749 00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:56.719 you know, Elvis is still alive or you know, or 750 00:38:56.800 --> 00:38:59.960 bat Boy or you know, I've been I was impregnated, 751 00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:03.760 I an alien, you know, combined with Jerry Springer, combined 752 00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:06.400 with the Roblo sex tape and the go gos abusing 753 00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:09.400 male fans. I mean, if you just put it all 754 00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:11.760 in one bucket, what would it be? You know? 755 00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:21.199 Oh god, no, the demoralization, yeah, Americas, the degradation, the 756 00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:25.119 the d it's something the dehumanization. 757 00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:28.559 No, not really, because it is human. It's the it's 758 00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:32.199 degradations like degradation, but not quite there's a better word. 759 00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:34.360 But see, I mean you think of you think of 760 00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:36.320 other things that came out like that. I mean, look 761 00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:40.239 at the Kardashians. How big the Kardashians have gotten in 762 00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:43.480 the cult of personality and where did they come from? 763 00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:49.760 There was you know, a slight they were kids of 764 00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:53.599 a famous lawyer. But where they got their fame was 765 00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:58.400 a sex tape, was a rapper, then it was played 766 00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:02.960 by their mom and produced into what you see now 767 00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:05.440 as the Kardashians. It all started with a sex tape. 768 00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:08.840 Right, But see there you go, there's the complete boomerang. Right, 769 00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:13.440 you start with the OJ murder, right, the OJ murder case. 770 00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:16.400 And this is how we even know who the hell 771 00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:18.679 Robert Kardashian is, right. 772 00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:21.880 And yeah, and without him, you'd have never known who 773 00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:24.039 the hell Kim Kardashian was, right, so. 774 00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:26.760 You wouldn't have cared. But now you care because somebody 775 00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:29.880 puts out a sex tape and that boomerangs all the 776 00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:35.159 way around to just absolute gobblegum garbage culture because you know, 777 00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:38.400 it's not two salacious except you know what the rumors 778 00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:42.199 that she keeps having, you know, ass adjustments, you know 779 00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:47.360 with plastic surgery, so plastic surgery disaster and a sex tape. 780 00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:48.639 And the next thing you know is you got a 781 00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:52.760 billion dollar empire, right, and every relative she has now 782 00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.599 makes money, and you know, and that's been a weird, 783 00:40:55.639 --> 00:41:00.119 all encompassing world. I mean, that's actually encompassed Kanye West, right, 784 00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:05.840 famous athletes or semi famous athletes and supposed rappers. You know, 785 00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:10.679 raycon has a whole headphone company now right, whatever his 786 00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:13.440 name is, Ray You know what I'm saying, Like all 787 00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:17.119 the businesses and things that were spun off of it, 788 00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:21.360 it's like the spinoff that won't stop the OJ murders, 789 00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:22.039 the Star. 790 00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:24.960 That's a good way to describe it. 791 00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:27.559 You know, the spinoff that won't stop all beginning with 792 00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:31.840 you know, the Nicole said the Brown Simpson murder, right, 793 00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:37.159 the Nicole Brown Robinald Goldman murder. Excuse me, and that 794 00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:41.679 spins off into eventually the spinoff that won't stop the 795 00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:46.559 Kardashian junk culture. I mean, it's just and it's a 796 00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:51.519 whole thing unto itself. You can't argue, you know, a massive, 797 00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:54.920 massive media industry. And also that gives us, by the way, 798 00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:59.000 the spinoffs that won't stop. Everybody forgets again, Caitlyn Jenner, 799 00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:01.599 you wouldn't. I've never got Bruce Jenner turned it into 800 00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:04.800 a woman. Although you know there were people talking about 801 00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:08.280 that for years, you know that like long before Caitlyn Jenner. 802 00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:12.119 Yeah, I mean the word was out there, and then 803 00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:14.920 every now and then you'd see this little Bruce Sheenner 804 00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:18.320 was seen coming from a spa such as such, suddenly 805 00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:20.920 he's got long hair and suddenly he's got boobed. 806 00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:21.559 You know. 807 00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:28.119 It's that was that was probably the worst kept secret 808 00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:29.519 before the big reveal. 809 00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:31.039 Well, even before. 810 00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:32.880 The past I'll say the past twenty years. 811 00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:35.039 Right, and even before the boob's and the long hair, 812 00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:38.320 if you remember, people were making jokes saying, something's up 813 00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:40.800 with Bruce Jenner because he looks like I don't know 814 00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:43.639 if he was taking the hormones ahead of time, but 815 00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:47.000 people were saying, like, Bruce Jenner now looks like a woman. 816 00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:49.920 Even family Guy you ever see the family guy joke? 817 00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:54.639 No, not a family guy fan? 818 00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:57.920 Okay, Well, like ten years before the Caitlyn Jenner thing 819 00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:01.760 was out there, right, guy turns around and does this 820 00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:05.559 joke where they do cutaways and Stewie's supposed to be 821 00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:08.760 doing a USO show, right, you know, like for the 822 00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:12.719 troops over in Iraq or something, and he goes and now, boys, 823 00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:16.480 I want to show you what you're fighting for. America's 824 00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:21.199 an American hero, Bruce Jenner. And Bruce Jenner comes out 825 00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:24.360 and does like a nineteen forty striptease like he's a woman, 826 00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:26.760 but he's still dressed in his track uniform and all that, 827 00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:31.639 and Brian looks at him and goes after the cutaway. 828 00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:33.880 He goes, but but Stuwie, that makes no sense. Bruce 829 00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:38.480 Jenner is a man, and Stuie goes, No, Brian, He's 830 00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:43.639 actually a woman, a beautiful, powerful woman. And that was 831 00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:46.440 the joke like a decade before he saw Gitln Jenner 832 00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:48.880 on there, because it was kind of this, you know, 833 00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:51.679 just sort of weirdly muttered thing out there. Bruce Jenner 834 00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:55.599 looks feminine? Why does Bruce Jenner look feminine? He was 835 00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:58.199 the track star. He was a wheaties guy, right, He 836 00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:00.840 was actually a big star at one point, you know, 837 00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:05.039 just for being an olympian. What was it the seventies, 838 00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:08.320 right or was it the eighties? 839 00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:13.800 With eighties? I think, see Bruce did he have his 840 00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:14.920 big dcataloon. 841 00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:17.800 Bruce Jenner is in that weird pocket of like nineteen 842 00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:20.239 seventy five to nineteen eighty five where you're not really 843 00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:27.199 sure sure where to put him. In my mind anyway, but. 844 00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:30.360 Now see this, I hate this. You go and you 845 00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:34.440 search for Bruce Jenner and you end up getting Kitlyn Jenner. 846 00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:38.400 I don't want Caitlyn Jenner. I want Bruce Jenner. 847 00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:42.079 Well, look, I'll take that argument as soon as somebody 848 00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:44.320 can explain to me where the cutoff is, because nobody's 849 00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:47.119 got the cutoff. I know, there you go, double on Tondra, 850 00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:48.760 but nobody's got the cutoff. 851 00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:52.440 Sea Stones seventy sixth Summer Olympics. 852 00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:55.519 Okay, there you go. And then we what did we do? 853 00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:59.239 We boycotted eighty four? Was it eighty four the boycott 854 00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:02.840 or was it a no? Eighty was the miracle on ice? 855 00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:04.480 So it had to be eighty four? Right? 856 00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:08.800 When was Carter in? 857 00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:14.119 What Carter would have been eighty still? Yeah, eighty four, 858 00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:17.679 so Carter, I don't know. We got to look at that. 859 00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:20.360 When did we boycott the Olympics? Remember there was a 860 00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:22.639 boycott and we didn't we didn't go. 861 00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:26.760 H hold on, Yeah, it was during Carter. Let's see, 862 00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:30.639 Reagan was in what till eighty and then we had Bush. 863 00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:33.480 No, no, no, Reagan comes, Okay, Reagan's. 864 00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:35.880 No, no, no, Reagan's after Carter. I wanted the hell? Am 865 00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:36.519 I thinking right? 866 00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:39.320 Reagan is elected in nineteen eighty, but he doesn't take 867 00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:43.039 office until eighty one. Ronald Reagan, and then he remains 868 00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:45.920 in there till nineteen eighty nine. Then he leaves office 869 00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:49.880 and in eighty nine that's when Bush takes over. 870 00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:57.960 Right, Yeah, let's see US Olympic boycotts. See what comes up? 871 00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:00.360 Yeah, because I know we boycotted one of those years 872 00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:02.400 because there was a whole bunch of stuff printed and 873 00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:04.039 then people were like, now what do we do with 874 00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:06.000 our raw rah? You know Usa? 875 00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:08.840 Yeah, it was it was you were right, it was 876 00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:13.599 in eighty It was in eighty because it was in Moscow. 877 00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:14.440 There you go. 878 00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:17.119 Okay, So Amy's thinking that was I was thinking that 879 00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:19.239 was that was Carter. 880 00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:23.440 Well, yeah, nineteen eighty is cardinal. Nineteen eighty is still Carter. 881 00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:26.039 Okay. 882 00:46:26.599 --> 00:46:29.800 See that's the election year they elected its right, in 883 00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:33.199 November of eighty but anything else Remember the election A 884 00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:35.440 happens in November almost at the end of the year, 885 00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:38.960 and b technically Reagan doesn't take office until eighty one, 886 00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:40.880 even though he's elected in eighty right. 887 00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:45.679 Yeah, there were sixteen countries that took advantage of that, 888 00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:48.719 and it was because of the Soviet invasion in Afghanistan 889 00:46:48.840 --> 00:46:52.119 in December of seventy nine. Yeah, so that was still Carter. 890 00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:55.320 Right. So in eighty four we have the miracle on ice. 891 00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:58.159 Then that's the eighty four where we beat the. 892 00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:04.239 Russian because the Soviet Union wasn't then the eighty four 893 00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:08.280 they boycotted the eighty four Olympics because we bought boycotted 894 00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:09.239 the eighty Olympics. 895 00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:11.719 Well, figure out when the miracle on ice was, because 896 00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:13.440 now I'm having trouble with this. It had to be 897 00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:13.800 in there. 898 00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:18.719 That was the Winter Games of seventy six, wasn't it. 899 00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:21.880 I don't think it was that early because that would 900 00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:24.360 be a big Yeah. Let's look that up because that 901 00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:27.480 can't be See here we go, we're going back and 902 00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:28.960 forth in our memory and you never know. 903 00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:35.039 That was the Winter Olympics in eighty. 904 00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:38.159 Okay, Winter Olympics in eighty So back then they were. 905 00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:40.519 They had the Summer Games in the Winter Games at 906 00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:42.920 different times, right or no, they had That was the 907 00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:46.320 the first time they started having them in the same year, 908 00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:46.920 wasn't it. 909 00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:47.559 Okay? 910 00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:48.119 Yeah? 911 00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:51.000 I think so, So what happens is Okay, Lake Placid 912 00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:53.400 and it was uh and I remember it was Lake Placid. 913 00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:56.000 That's nineteen eighty all right, So what happens is we 914 00:47:56.079 --> 00:47:58.519 have the boycott of the Summer Games. 915 00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:11.199 Right, we boycotted? Oh god, let's see, Yeah, we boycotted 916 00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:17.400 the Summer Games because they were in Russia. Okay, So 917 00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:19.960 what they did is they boycotted the eighty four Games 918 00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:27.960 in Los Angeles Summer Games. The Winter Games in nineteen 919 00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:30.079 eighty is when you had the miracle on ice. 920 00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:32.519 Right, because they were going to have okay, now I 921 00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:34.199 just looked it up because they were going to have 922 00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:41.159 it in Moscow the Summer Games. That's why. Yeah, Okay, 923 00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:43.280 so they boycotted it in eighty. But then we went 924 00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:45.719 back and did we did the Winter Olympics, and that's 925 00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:47.400 when you get the miracle on ice. We did this 926 00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:48.679 team beating the Russians. 927 00:48:48.679 --> 00:48:51.079 All right, We did the eighty and then when the 928 00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:54.800 eighty four Summer Games came around in LA that's when 929 00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:57.360 the Soviet and just said we're not we're boycotting it 930 00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:00.960 because you guys screwed us over back in Summer Games 931 00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:01.320 of the thing. 932 00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:04.480 Right. In fairness, look, in nineteen eighty I was busy 933 00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:06.239 with a lot of things, and I was eight years old, 934 00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:09.239 So I mean, you know, just saying my memory is 935 00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:12.960 just vague on this because it wasn't my main focus 936 00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:16.480 in life. You know what am I gonna say? But 937 00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:19.719 interesting nonetheless, Now why did we get on this? 938 00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:19.880 Oh? 939 00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:22.000 Right, So I was trying to figure out when when 940 00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:24.880 Jenner was big, and apparently he did well in seventy six, 941 00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:28.599 so you know, he's already like on the Wheaties box 942 00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:31.840 and all that stuff when I'm a little kid, and 943 00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:34.280 Bruce Jenner was a star just for being a track star. 944 00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:36.719 And then he was kind of like not noticeable for 945 00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:39.199 a long time, you know. I mean I think they 946 00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:41.599 gave him some TV show roles stuff like that, you know, 947 00:49:41.639 --> 00:49:43.719 typical what they do, like they did with Mary lou 948 00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:46.360 Rettin and I think she was big at it game, 949 00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:48.199 I mean yeah. 950 00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:50.280 Yeah, and they put him on. I think ABC Sports 951 00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:52.599 had him as a sportscaster for a while, you know, 952 00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:57.079 a couple of years, right, right. 953 00:49:57.000 --> 00:49:58.880 Because these kind of things would happen to guys who 954 00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:02.360 didn't have like a professional sport to go into, because 955 00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:04.400 there's no professional decathlon, you know. 956 00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:07.599 So yeah, so they would use him at the track 957 00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:11.519 and field meats and the you know, the US or 958 00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:13.599 is it the US Nationals and things like that, and 959 00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:15.639 he'd always be the guest announcer. 960 00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:18.400 Yeah, give him that, give him the wat the Wheati's box, 961 00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:21.400 was always the big deal. Right, every athlete wants to 962 00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:23.280 be on a Wheaty's box, or at least used to be. 963 00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:25.880 So you got the Wheaty's box, and then of course 964 00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:29.880 they give him the McDonald's commercial. Right, These are like 965 00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:33.719 McDonald's commercial, your own shoe, you know, a sneaker, right, 966 00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:36.639 and in a Wheat's box. And that was like your 967 00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:40.119 your big prizes for no matter what kind of athlete 968 00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:43.719 you were, right, any kind of athlete, if you're the 969 00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:45.800 best at the best, then you should get the following 970 00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:49.880 three things. A McDonald's commercial, your own sneakers, and your 971 00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:51.840 face and your image on a Wheat's box. 972 00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:56.199 Right, Yeah, I mean that's a given. 973 00:50:56.480 --> 00:51:00.239 Okay, So Bruce Jenner was one of those guys, you know, 974 00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:05.199 like Michael Jordan would later on get that. Right. So 975 00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:07.000 the best of the best, just not in the sport 976 00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:09.960 anybody pays to go see, which is you know, did 977 00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:13.639 the Cavlon So it's not a pro sport, but the 978 00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:16.800 best of the best nonetheless, right, I mean the professional swimmer, 979 00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:19.639 what was it, was it, Greg Luganis or whatever? It 980 00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:21.559 won a whole bunch of medals. Right. 981 00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:26.559 No, you're thinking, well, cogainis. Yeah, he was a gold medalist. 982 00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:28.800 He's the one that hit his head on the diamond board, right, 983 00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:31.159 he was gay. That was his big thing. 984 00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:32.519 Okay. 985 00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:38.679 The one that won all the medals was Mark Spitz. 986 00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:41.519 Spitz until this guy a few years ago, the big 987 00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:53.039 huge guys swimming, but yes, this was the one that Yeah, 988 00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:56.000 it was Mark Spitz. I think it was seven gold medals, Martl. 989 00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:58.719 Smitz seven gold medals, okay. Is and we do have 990 00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:01.840 a caller and we're in talking about Olympic Games for 991 00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:04.280 some reason and uh oh, Bruce Jenner, that's what brought 992 00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:06.440 us into it. But I'm telling you today it was 993 00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:07.280 a long time. Joe. 994 00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:10.840 Yeah, before you do that, though, you mentioned you mentioned 995 00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:15.480 the sneaker deals. Who was the first documented celebrity sneaker contract. 996 00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:22.559 Well, I think it was Jordan that was for you, 997 00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:25.840 that was the first gigantic one. But Chuck Taylor is 998 00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:29.480 ja wait wait, Chuck Taylor is the first guy I 999 00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:30.039 know with a. 1000 00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:33.360 Sneaker You got it there, Chuck Taylor in nineteen thirty four, 1001 00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:39.119 or right, the Chuck Taylor All Stars from Converse. 1002 00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:41.519 Yeah, the Converse All Star But the first one that was, 1003 00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:42.760 like you know, Mega million. 1004 00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:49.360 Nineteen thirty four. I mean, that's well, I would think 1005 00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:51.800 Chuck Taylor. May if I don't know who's I'll see 1006 00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:54.239 if we can figure out who sold more shoes in 1007 00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:55.400 today's dollars. 1008 00:52:55.639 --> 00:52:58.440 I don't know. In today's dollars, probably Jordan, but in 1009 00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:02.880 volumes of shoes, it has to be Chuck Taylor, because, 1010 00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:04.360 I mean, for Christ's sake, the converse. 1011 00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:06.960 I was raised in Chuck Taylor's. 1012 00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:08.719 Yeah, I mean for a long time. As a matter 1013 00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:10.679 of fact, they went from being like the high end 1014 00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:13.599 shoe to the cheapest possible shoe, back to the high 1015 00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:16.679 end shoe again like three times. I mean, you know, 1016 00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:20.280 you're talking about a shoe that's been around. 1017 00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:23.159 That's funny. When I was in kid. When I was 1018 00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:27.159 a kid, they were expensive. When I went in army, 1019 00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:28.719 you could buy him for next to nothing. And then 1020 00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:30.719 when I get out of the army, suddenly they're fifty 1021 00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:32.159 bucks a pair, sixty bucks pair. 1022 00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:34.920 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They've gone in and out 1023 00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:38.400 of style. Like I remember when I was a little kid, 1024 00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:42.199 they were cheap. They were still cheap when I was 1025 00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:44.599 a little kid, and then I got into like, you know, 1026 00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:48.119 the around like say the grunge era of stuff, like 1027 00:53:48.159 --> 00:53:51.800 in the nineties, and you know, Kurt Cobain's wearing him 1028 00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:54.039 because he can afford him, you know what I mean. 1029 00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:57.679 They had astronomical Chuck Taylor like special issues. 1030 00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:02.920 You know it was I bought, yeah, I know, I 1031 00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:07.400 bought a pair for my girlfriend's dog in Switzerland. I 1032 00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:09.639 ordered them, had them delivered here, and then picked them 1033 00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:12.519 up here before I went back over. And I spent 1034 00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:14.440 one hundred I think it was like one hundred and 1035 00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:17.840 forty five bucks with tax or custom pair of Chuck 1036 00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:18.920 Taylor's right. 1037 00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:23.920 See. And today, at a certain point, Chuck Cheelers were 1038 00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:28.000 the equivalent of like say a twenty dollars shoe today. 1039 00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:32.119 You know, they were cheaper than that. Oh yeah, one 1040 00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:33.679 time they were you know, twelve bucks a. 1041 00:54:33.679 --> 00:54:37.719 Pair, right, right. They were practically like what did we 1042 00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:40.480 used to go no name sneakers. We used to call skippies, right, 1043 00:54:41.639 --> 00:54:44.039 That's what we called them. You know some brand you 1044 00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:45.920 never heard of, or some you know, like made in 1045 00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:49.239 Czechoslovakia or some nonsense, or made in some country that 1046 00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:52.519 doesn't exist anymore. That's the funniest one. Sometimes you could 1047 00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:54.679 get shoes made you know, like in a Marshal's or something. 1048 00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:57.039 It's like, what country does this say it's from? Oh, 1049 00:54:57.079 --> 00:55:01.559 that place doesn't even exist anymore. Literally that would happen. 1050 00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:03.719 Yeah, Yugoslavia. Where the hell is that? 1051 00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:07.159 Yugoslavia. It was worse than Yugoslavia, though, I swear I 1052 00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:09.840 saw countries on shoe brands that I never heard of 1053 00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:13.719 at all, Like when did this place exist? And it's like, well, 1054 00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:16.320 it was actually this republic that split up in a congo, 1055 00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:20.000 you know, and made shoes for like six months. Here 1056 00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:23.679 they are, and you know, and somebody imported them. But 1057 00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:26.840 it was crazy anyways. Skippies is what we used to 1058 00:55:26.880 --> 00:55:30.920 call the shoes that really weren't named brand. And nowadays, 1059 00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:33.800 you know, there's lots of name brands, but for a 1060 00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:36.280 little while there it was all dominated by certain stuff 1061 00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:39.719 and not Nike. The first guy to propose that Michael 1062 00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:42.599 Jordan's shoe deal with Nike, they thought he was nuts. 1063 00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:46.480 They were like, this makes no sense. This hardly anybody 1064 00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:48.400 knows that this guy is. Besides that he's not going 1065 00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:51.519 to sell shoes, you know what I'm saying. And they 1066 00:55:51.559 --> 00:55:59.199 became like an iconic thing, sneakers, which is weird. Anyways, 1067 00:55:59.199 --> 00:56:01.360 we got this caller, so I wanted to get to him. 1068 00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:03.000 You ready for that now or you got some more 1069 00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:04.239 stuff you want to throw in on this? 1070 00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:07.320 Nor bring them on it is. 1071 00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:11.400 Listen, we're taking weird trips down the the what should 1072 00:56:11.440 --> 00:56:14.039 we call this the the We're off roading in the 1073 00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:18.639 in the land of American culture and going through some 1074 00:56:18.760 --> 00:56:22.599 of the dark and ugly unpaved roads. How about that. 1075 00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:26.159 That's what we're doing tonight so far. That sounds fair, 1076 00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:32.000 of course, of course, all right, so let's get to 1077 00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:35.320 our first caller. It looks like it's Danny from California. 1078 00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:40.400 I think. Let's hope everything works good, Danny. How you doing, Danny? 1079 00:56:41.719 --> 00:56:47.559 Good evening. I'm doing just fine, and it's and we're 1080 00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:48.880 getting that feedback again. 1081 00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:50.159 I must be too hot. 1082 00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:52.800 I don't know. I'll try and turn it down for 1083 00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:55.519 you a little. But I did turn down a volume 1084 00:56:55.559 --> 00:56:59.119 a little earlier before we tested it, and i'm testing 1085 00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:02.440 it with you, so sorry about that. If I'm not 1086 00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:05.199 doing a good job, Let's see maybe if I put 1087 00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:08.639 the input books down any better? How about that. 1088 00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:15.519 A little bit. I'm just having a little feet back there. 1089 00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:17.400 But yeah, we've Merry. 1090 00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:17.920 Christmas to all. 1091 00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:19.679 I hope. Oh are you feeling better? 1092 00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:20.000 Chuck? 1093 00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:23.599 I am not in great shape, to be honest with you. 1094 00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:26.599 I could not make it last night at all. And 1095 00:57:26.920 --> 00:57:29.400 I don't want to describe everything that's going on, but 1096 00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:33.360 I'm having a I'm having issues with more than just 1097 00:57:33.400 --> 00:57:36.719 a back injury at this point, and I don't even 1098 00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:38.679 know how to describe at all. And they can't seem 1099 00:57:38.679 --> 00:57:42.000 to sort it out quickly because everything is appointments and 1100 00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:46.760 hurry up and wait, you know, so I'm waiting to 1101 00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:49.920 get word on what's actually going on, but I got problems. 1102 00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:54.519 Like last night, for instance, I was throwing up when 1103 00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:56.440 I didn't expect to be throwing up. And it's not 1104 00:57:56.519 --> 00:58:00.599 because I got a virus. You know, there's something damaged 1105 00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:01.079 in my gun. 1106 00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:04.400 Did you get a concussion or concussion or something you 1107 00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:05.679 got Okay. 1108 00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:08.239 No concussion, that was November already, you know what I mean. 1109 00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:13.360 I'm struggling with this now for two months hurt, and honestly, 1110 00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:17.480 I'm not getting I'm not getting treatment or attention very quickly, 1111 00:58:18.679 --> 00:58:22.920 and I'm trying to keep quiet because there's investigations and 1112 00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:26.079 lawyers and all kinds of things. You know, so I'm not, 1113 00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:30.159 but I'm I'm a wreck, to be honest with you. 1114 00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:33.760 I'm just trying to keep my mouth and they tell 1115 00:58:33.800 --> 00:58:35.920 you don't even I had to sign a special thing 1116 00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:39.719 about not sharing on social media what's happening. So that's 1117 00:58:39.719 --> 00:58:40.840 why it's so vague. 1118 00:58:41.079 --> 00:58:45.760 Okay, you know, Okay, Well I'll change the subject if 1119 00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:46.159 you want. 1120 00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:49.239 Yeah, I appreciate. 1121 00:58:48.920 --> 00:58:52.119 I heard you talking about the Chuck Taylor's my my. 1122 00:58:52.119 --> 00:58:56.320 My wife's got several pairs. She loves them, she loves them, 1123 00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:00.639 and I wore them as a as a kid. In fact, 1124 00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:03.920 when I played basketball in junior high, was the head 1125 00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:08.119 conber uh all Stars of the High Tops with the 1126 00:59:08.119 --> 00:59:11.000 ankles because I need the ankles support playing basketball. 1127 00:59:11.079 --> 00:59:14.760 So yeah, did they You know, when I was a kid, 1128 00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:17.039 they didn't make I don't take anything other than the 1129 00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:21.440 high Tops. And it was only later in my adulthood 1130 00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:24.159 that I started to see. Now maybe they existed before that, 1131 00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:28.280 but they were all black. They were all that black nylon. 1132 00:59:29.039 --> 00:59:30.519 It was you know, black, and they were the black 1133 00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:32.920 and white shoes. They had the white tip and it. 1134 00:59:33.000 --> 00:59:35.800 Was either it was either black or white. They didn't 1135 00:59:35.840 --> 00:59:38.639 have now, they haven't had multi colors because my wife's good, 1136 00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:41.760 she's she bought some green ones when she was in Chicago. 1137 00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:44.239 She loves them. 1138 00:59:44.360 --> 00:59:46.320 Oh yeah, I've seen every color. And as a matter 1139 00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:48.320 of fact, I think there's a way you can like 1140 00:59:48.440 --> 00:59:53.239 custom order like different different fabric, but like if you 1141 00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:56.400 wanted to get plaid or like something that looks like 1142 00:59:56.760 --> 01:00:00.519 a Scottish kilt, you could get a pair of Chucks 1143 01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:06.119 made like had a Scottish kilt material. So you know, 1144 01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:08.960 it's wild now, But at one point, I don't even 1145 01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:11.320 remember the white ones. People tell me the white ones existed, 1146 01:00:11.719 --> 01:00:15.599 but what I remember seeing they is just the black 1147 01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:18.679 ones only, you know. And I also don't remember ever 1148 01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:22.239 seeing low tops, you know, like they were all the 1149 01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:26.320 high top sneaker and I liked them, that's for sure. 1150 01:00:26.920 --> 01:00:28.519 And I was happy with them when they were cheap, 1151 01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:31.599 and quite frankly, I think they were made better when 1152 01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:33.679 they were cheap, which was a weird reversal for me. 1153 01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:36.719 It was like they actually were more sturty. I had 1154 01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:40.800 a pair of Chucks from the time I was thirteen 1155 01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:44.280 to the time I was like twenty three, Like I 1156 01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:46.159 had the same pair of Chucks that I didn't wear 1157 01:00:46.199 --> 01:00:48.480 all the time I wore boots and other stuff, but 1158 01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:51.440 I had the same pair of Chucks that I didn't 1159 01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:56.119 wear out for ten years, you know, not again, not 1160 01:00:56.159 --> 01:00:58.239 wearing them every day and probably just wearing them a 1161 01:00:58.239 --> 01:01:00.280 couple of times a week. But literally, though, those are 1162 01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:03.360 my go to shoes, and I wore them all the 1163 01:01:03.360 --> 01:01:05.960 way the hell out, you know. They didn't just like 1164 01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:09.119 one day crack after a year or two and be 1165 01:01:09.239 --> 01:01:11.159 done or suddenly have holes in them. I had to 1166 01:01:11.159 --> 01:01:15.840 wear those down. But somebody else I knew got a 1167 01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:17.880 pair and like, you know, blew them out in a month. 1168 01:01:18.519 --> 01:01:20.400 And it's not like they were in a star athlete 1169 01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:22.719 or anything, just walking around. He just blew them out. 1170 01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:24.840 And I'm like, how the hell do I have a 1171 01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:27.239 pair that lasts for ten years and you get one 1172 01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:30.800 and it doesn't last you know, a quarter of a year. 1173 01:01:31.519 --> 01:01:34.800 But I've seen it happen, and I don't know. I 1174 01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:36.719 don't know how they're made today, if they're like in 1175 01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:39.679 good standing, or if they're back to boutique or are 1176 01:01:39.719 --> 01:01:41.559 they back to cheap Where do you know where they're 1177 01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:41.960 at now? 1178 01:01:45.239 --> 01:01:50.199 I think they look similar everybody I know that they 1179 01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:53.920 wear them. There's a guy I see it mass every Sunday. 1180 01:01:54.039 --> 01:01:57.599 He's got his Chuck taylors on and he seems like 1181 01:01:57.639 --> 01:02:00.760 he's been wearing the same pair for over decades. So 1182 01:02:03.079 --> 01:02:06.400 it just I remember as a kid they held up 1183 01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:08.880 pretty good. I was pretty hard on shoes to begin with. 1184 01:02:09.679 --> 01:02:14.880 So well, yeah, a little throwback, and then then the 1185 01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:19.280 Jordans came in, and they're still popular. Of the Jordans, 1186 01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:21.639 I mean people pay a fortune for him. 1187 01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:24.199 That's still pretty wild though, would be Pete doug Up. 1188 01:02:24.199 --> 01:02:27.719 That's the first, like you know, player shoe deal, and 1189 01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:29.079 that was done in the thirties. 1190 01:02:29.119 --> 01:02:30.039 I didn't realize that. 1191 01:02:31.159 --> 01:02:34.599 Yeah, well, if you think about it, I mean they existed. Okay, 1192 01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:37.280 so you're not one hundred years old, Danny, So they 1193 01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:39.920 existed when you were a kid. Nope, you know what 1194 01:02:39.920 --> 01:02:41.920 I mean. Michael, Yeah, Michael Jordan didn't. 1195 01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:44.199 Yeah, I was a little kid bottom. 1196 01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:46.760 Yeah right, So I mean they existed when you were 1197 01:02:46.760 --> 01:02:50.119 a little kid. But Michael Jordan didn't exist as as 1198 01:02:50.159 --> 01:02:55.039 Michael Jordan yet, so you know that it was way 1199 01:02:55.039 --> 01:02:57.679 ahead of him. And think about it, I mean, was 1200 01:02:57.719 --> 01:03:00.559 there anybody else's name on a sneaker? I don't remember 1201 01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:03.400 anybody else's name before that, so it makes perfect sense. 1202 01:03:03.440 --> 01:03:05.960 But all the way back to you know, just after 1203 01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:10.880 the depression, Chuck Taylor gets a sneaker deal obviously not 1204 01:03:11.039 --> 01:03:13.880 worth the big money that Jordan gets, or I mean, 1205 01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:17.079 I guess every athlete gets a sneaker deal now, you know, 1206 01:03:17.159 --> 01:03:19.320 like I was saying, you get these three accomplishments as 1207 01:03:19.320 --> 01:03:23.400 a modern athlete, you get the wheaties box, the shoes, 1208 01:03:23.840 --> 01:03:27.159 and a McDonald's commercial almost always. And I remember that 1209 01:03:27.199 --> 01:03:29.840 trend beginning with Mary lou rettin Believe It or Not, 1210 01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:32.920 and and a Bruce Jenner, which you know are a 1211 01:03:32.920 --> 01:03:36.280 similar time period to me, because you know, seventy sixty 1212 01:03:36.440 --> 01:03:38.960 before it's not that biggest fan. But I mean think 1213 01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:41.440 about that. That's like the weird sort of like cultural 1214 01:03:41.519 --> 01:03:45.039 reward in America. If you're the best of the best athlete, 1215 01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:49.599 whether you're a swimmer or a baseball player, whatever, you know, 1216 01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:52.360 you get that. And then if there's a professional sport 1217 01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:56.159 for you, you go pro. But other than that, you know, 1218 01:03:56.239 --> 01:04:00.079 as an amateur athlete, that's you, that's your goal, the 1219 01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:03.800 wheaties box, the McDonald's commercial, and the sneaker deal one 1220 01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:07.360 way or another, right, right, So I don't know maybe 1221 01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:10.440 I'm boiling it down too simple, but it just seems 1222 01:04:10.440 --> 01:04:12.519 interesting to me. And again, I was thinking about these 1223 01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:16.679 retro things from the late eighties and watching those old 1224 01:04:16.719 --> 01:04:18.599 talk shows, which got me onto it. And that's how 1225 01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:21.000 we ended up on you know, the spin off, that 1226 01:04:21.159 --> 01:04:26.119 the never ending spin off of the Kardashians, which begins 1227 01:04:26.159 --> 01:04:29.639 with the you know, the OJ murder trial. If you 1228 01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:34.440 think about it, you know, and it's still giving, including 1229 01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:37.920 going in weird directions like Caitlyn Jenner, you know, because 1230 01:04:37.960 --> 01:04:39.440 would we care so much about. 1231 01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:43.639 Yeah, the funny thing is about the OJ trial is that, 1232 01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:47.840 you know, Robert Kardashian was his lawyer before the trial. 1233 01:04:48.599 --> 01:04:51.000 He wasn't part of the dream team. He could kind 1234 01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:55.760 of stepped back once OJ got his big team in place. 1235 01:04:56.360 --> 01:04:58.320 Well he was really, you know, he had really just 1236 01:04:58.360 --> 01:05:03.440 that small little sliver of association with OJ Simpson was 1237 01:05:03.559 --> 01:05:05.679 enough that when his daughter got caught banging on a 1238 01:05:05.719 --> 01:05:10.000 tape with Ray J, suddenly everybody knows who she is. 1239 01:05:10.159 --> 01:05:11.760 But you got to look back at that a little 1240 01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:13.800 better at BP, because he was there on the dream 1241 01:05:13.840 --> 01:05:16.960 team the whole time. Kardashian, he was there, He just 1242 01:05:17.119 --> 01:05:20.400 wasn't he got pushed out of the lead by Johnny Cochran, 1243 01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:24.239 but he was there from before they even arrested OJ. 1244 01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:27.639 If you remember the Bronco chase was you know, Bob 1245 01:05:27.719 --> 01:05:30.480 Kardashian had to come out to the cameras and go, look, 1246 01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:34.679 we don't know where OJ is, right, and he's going 1247 01:05:35.159 --> 01:05:36.840 we were going to take him over to surrender to 1248 01:05:36.880 --> 01:05:39.400 the police, and he's gone. We don't know where he went. 1249 01:05:40.239 --> 01:05:42.800 And the next thing, yeah, because they think that the 1250 01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:45.000 Kardashian they think is the one that got rid of 1251 01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:48.360 the suitcase for OJ, you know, when he came back 1252 01:05:48.400 --> 01:05:49.039 off the plane. 1253 01:05:50.760 --> 01:05:53.599 Yeah. You ever see that what is it called an 1254 01:05:53.639 --> 01:05:56.079 American Story or whatever? It's like eight parts on the 1255 01:05:56.079 --> 01:05:57.719 OJ Trial. You ever see that? 1256 01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:02.079 Yeah? 1257 01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:09.199 It was John Travolta plays Robert Kardashian. Really, yeah, it's 1258 01:06:09.239 --> 01:06:13.000 it's pretty interesting. But I watched that thing, you know, 1259 01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:15.440 from start to finish pretty much because I was doing 1260 01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:18.079 office work at the time and it was kind of 1261 01:06:18.079 --> 01:06:20.280 dead because I was doing a lot of international calls, 1262 01:06:20.840 --> 01:06:23.320 so I had to be manning the phones like at 1263 01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:26.480 weird hours, and so during the day though, I'd get 1264 01:06:26.519 --> 01:06:30.039 paperwork done and I'd have the OJ Trial on you know, 1265 01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:33.800 all day because that was like all day coverage and 1266 01:06:33.840 --> 01:06:36.480 it was gabble to gabble, and you know, this is 1267 01:06:36.480 --> 01:06:39.480 why we know names like Judge lance Edo, you know, 1268 01:06:39.760 --> 01:06:42.800 and Marcia Clark want to change her hairdo and everything. 1269 01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:47.239 It's crazy to think about how many years ago that is. 1270 01:06:47.320 --> 01:06:53.000 I wonder, I wonder how much money Ojay actually spent 1271 01:06:53.440 --> 01:06:56.599 on all those damn lawyers. Oh well, you know they 1272 01:06:56.599 --> 01:06:58.519 were charged in a thousand or more an hour. 1273 01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:01.800 Well it's in the millions. But I don't think anybody's 1274 01:07:01.800 --> 01:07:06.960 ever really calculated all of what he spent because remember, 1275 01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:09.079 he had to hire the guy who is now, you know, 1276 01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:13.559 a cornerstone of the the Innocence Project or whatever there. 1277 01:07:13.599 --> 01:07:15.519 I forget his name now, was it Sheck? 1278 01:07:17.199 --> 01:07:19.079 Yeah, Barry Shack, Barry Sheck, right. 1279 01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:20.840 So he had to hire Barry Sheck. He had to 1280 01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:26.079 hire Johnny Cochran. Johnny Cochran was not cheap. Bob Kardashian 1281 01:07:26.199 --> 01:07:29.840 was still billing and uh, you know the whole way through, 1282 01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:32.639 And there were other guys that were part of that group. 1283 01:07:35.119 --> 01:07:38.559 There was like a oh man, there's a bunch of 1284 01:07:38.599 --> 01:07:41.320 side characters. But how many lawyers were sitting at that table? 1285 01:07:41.400 --> 01:07:43.559 Every day, six seven. 1286 01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:48.079 Right, yeah, I was just looking at the list. The 1287 01:07:48.159 --> 01:07:51.039 total Dream team was about ten lawyers. 1288 01:07:50.760 --> 01:07:52.679 Here you go, but six or seven got to sit 1289 01:07:52.719 --> 01:07:55.079 at the same it'd be like three or po. 1290 01:07:55.079 --> 01:07:56.400 Yeah, yeah, a lot of the other ones were in 1291 01:07:56.440 --> 01:07:59.519 the office. It says here that O. J. Simpson's defense team, 1292 01:08:00.199 --> 01:08:04.239 known as the Dream Team, cost him and estimated fifty 1293 01:08:04.320 --> 01:08:08.760 thousand dollars a day during his trial, totaling around thirteen 1294 01:08:08.800 --> 01:08:09.880 million over the course. 1295 01:08:11.519 --> 01:08:14.920 Well that doesn't even seem right because fifty thousand would 1296 01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:19.359 be one hundred thousand for two days, right, So that 1297 01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:22.720 would be one and a half million a month. And 1298 01:08:23.119 --> 01:08:25.399 you know that there was pre trial stuff. And how 1299 01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:28.399 long did the trial last, you know what. 1300 01:08:28.399 --> 01:08:31.039 I'm saying, went from the end of January October. 1301 01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:35.439 Okay, So okay, maybe it is only thirteen Well no, 1302 01:08:35.479 --> 01:08:37.520 it can't be thirteen million. You have to be closer 1303 01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:41.600 to twenty. I'll tell you why. Because look, if you 1304 01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:44.359 figure that, okay, if you go with that correct piece 1305 01:08:44.399 --> 01:08:48.319 of money there, fifty thousand a day, right, that means 1306 01:08:48.359 --> 01:08:51.640 that you have to do that. Okay. So if you 1307 01:08:51.840 --> 01:08:53.840 if you put it together and you make two days 1308 01:08:53.880 --> 01:08:57.000 worth one hundred thousand you got to do two days 1309 01:08:57.039 --> 01:09:01.960 fifteen times every month, so you got to have fifteen 1310 01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:09.439 times one hundred thousand. Okay, that's one and a half million, right, 1311 01:09:09.600 --> 01:09:14.319 per month. And if you imagine that there was pre 1312 01:09:14.359 --> 01:09:17.399 trial stuff that went on for a while, and you 1313 01:09:17.439 --> 01:09:21.880 say that there was twelve months, even, well that's eighteen 1314 01:09:21.920 --> 01:09:23.439 Well now this is eighteen million. 1315 01:09:23.680 --> 01:09:26.920 Well no, because you think about it. From beginning of 1316 01:09:26.960 --> 01:09:32.640 February to October is what nine months? So you figure 1317 01:09:33.319 --> 01:09:37.760 what you said per month, Yeah, about six million, and 1318 01:09:37.800 --> 01:09:40.840 then you take the other four or nine million, and 1319 01:09:40.880 --> 01:09:44.359 then the other four about thirteen. Yeah, but you said 1320 01:09:44.359 --> 01:09:47.159 it was nine million for such and such and the 1321 01:09:47.239 --> 01:09:51.279 duration left was half that, So yeah, about another four 1322 01:09:51.279 --> 01:09:53.199 and a half. So push you up there at thirteen. 1323 01:09:53.520 --> 01:09:56.039 Yeah, but that doesn't include any of the pre trial 1324 01:09:56.079 --> 01:09:57.840 work though. See that's just the trial. 1325 01:09:58.279 --> 01:10:02.239 Well now I'm just talking the trial itself. Just thirteen 1326 01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:06.119 million is what Business Insider and these other places are estimating. Yeah, 1327 01:10:06.119 --> 01:10:07.119 for just the trial. 1328 01:10:07.199 --> 01:10:09.199 But you know how it is with lawyers. Look, the 1329 01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:12.800 work that they do slides into the trial, right, and 1330 01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:15.640 you go ahead and try and separate their bills. Even 1331 01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:20.279 they give you itemized bills. It's insane, you know, because 1332 01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:23.359 you're making a call on a certain date, whether it's 1333 01:10:23.439 --> 01:10:25.640 before or after the hearing, it's a follow up on 1334 01:10:25.720 --> 01:10:29.760 the hearing, or it's in preparation for the hearing, or 1335 01:10:29.800 --> 01:10:31.800 they're charging you to write, you know, the letters and 1336 01:10:31.840 --> 01:10:34.399 make the phone calls ahead of time. Like every time 1337 01:10:34.439 --> 01:10:37.840 these guys called them in jail, they were billing them, right, 1338 01:10:38.600 --> 01:10:40.920 and they were doing that before the trial. They had 1339 01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:42.760 to talk to them before the trial, so they had 1340 01:10:42.760 --> 01:10:45.039 to charge them to go and sit down with them 1341 01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:47.439 at the jail. You see what I mean. 1342 01:10:51.159 --> 01:10:55.920 Yeah, you know, he's lucky they weren't charging him. Like 1343 01:10:56.000 --> 01:10:58.239 what Fanny Willis's boyfriend down here in Georgia for one 1344 01:10:58.279 --> 01:11:00.600 hundred and sixty hours a week. Yeah, there's only one 1345 01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:01.960 hundred and sixty eight hours in the week. 1346 01:11:02.159 --> 01:11:07.680 Well who the who knows, you know, because overlap and 1347 01:11:08.159 --> 01:11:12.199 maybe it's more than one worker, right, because suddenly it's like, well, 1348 01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:14.520 my paralegal did six hours on the same day that 1349 01:11:14.600 --> 01:11:15.880 I did eighteen hours. 1350 01:11:15.920 --> 01:11:19.840 So therefore, right, I had a lawyer. I had a 1351 01:11:19.880 --> 01:11:21.880 lawyer explain it to me. He says, if I'm on 1352 01:11:21.920 --> 01:11:25.399 a case and I think about that case for five minutes, 1353 01:11:25.880 --> 01:11:28.800 I bill for ten minutes, he says. If I'm sitting 1354 01:11:28.840 --> 01:11:31.399 there shaving and it just crosses my mind, he says, 1355 01:11:31.399 --> 01:11:35.000 that's ten minutes. He says, So yeah, conceivably you could 1356 01:11:35.039 --> 01:11:39.800 have a thirty hour day billing even though there's twenty 1357 01:11:39.840 --> 01:11:40.840 four hours in the day. 1358 01:11:41.159 --> 01:11:42.680 Well, the way it was explained to me by the 1359 01:11:42.760 --> 01:11:46.000 musician shark lawyers I hired is, you know, if we 1360 01:11:46.079 --> 01:11:48.079 do five minutes worth of work, we're not going to 1361 01:11:48.119 --> 01:11:50.800 sit here. Billing you by the minute doesn't work that way. 1362 01:11:51.399 --> 01:11:54.159 So the second that we start work, that's an automatic 1363 01:11:54.199 --> 01:11:58.199 half hour. So you know, if I worked on it 1364 01:11:58.279 --> 01:12:00.319 for ten minutes, or if I worked on a twenty 1365 01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:04.039 nine minutes, you still getting charged for the half hour. Now, 1366 01:12:04.039 --> 01:12:06.439 ten minutes after I finish my ten minute job, I 1367 01:12:06.479 --> 01:12:11.840 start another ten minute job. That's another half hour, you see, 1368 01:12:12.399 --> 01:12:15.000 So within the course of thirty minutes, I could have 1369 01:12:15.039 --> 01:12:17.159 gotten charged for an hour just like that. That's how 1370 01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:21.399 you double up an hour. How'es that sound to you? 1371 01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:26.800 Fuck them? Yeah, that's why I hate lawyers. 1372 01:12:26.880 --> 01:12:30.640 Yeah, the lawyers are great people, aren't they Just saying, 1373 01:12:30.720 --> 01:12:32.760 you know, I'm going to come up with a creative 1374 01:12:32.760 --> 01:12:34.600 way to explain to you that you actually owe me 1375 01:12:34.640 --> 01:12:36.880 more money, and I'm being generous by charging you for 1376 01:12:36.880 --> 01:12:39.199 an hour and a half hour's work even though I 1377 01:12:39.199 --> 01:12:43.279 only did twenty minutes. So realistically, you get charged for 1378 01:12:43.319 --> 01:12:45.079 an hour's worth of work when a guy does twenty 1379 01:12:45.119 --> 01:12:50.159 minutes worth a job. Hmm, something doesn't sound question. 1380 01:12:50.479 --> 01:12:53.720 Yeah, are you going to be doing Aaron tonight? 1381 01:12:54.279 --> 01:12:54.479 Yes? 1382 01:12:56.399 --> 01:12:57.119 Okay, cool? 1383 01:12:57.319 --> 01:12:59.399 Yes, Aaron is. The only trouble we had is a 1384 01:12:59.399 --> 01:13:01.840 couple of weeks go when he suddenly pulled up on me. 1385 01:13:02.319 --> 01:13:04.880 But otherwise he usually tells me ahead of time, Hey 1386 01:13:04.960 --> 01:13:08.399 I'm going to be there or not, and usually I 1387 01:13:08.439 --> 01:13:13.039 get him here he's available. So tonight they said they'll 1388 01:13:13.079 --> 01:13:14.520 be ready to roll. Why what time is it? A 1389 01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:15.640 we run out of time ready? 1390 01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:16.159 Nah? 1391 01:13:17.159 --> 01:13:20.159 No, it's about seventeen after nine, is all. I just 1392 01:13:20.199 --> 01:13:22.760 wanted to check, and that way I know to keep 1393 01:13:22.800 --> 01:13:24.439 an eye on the clock. We have a tendency to 1394 01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:26.920 sometimes run late, especially if Jimmy calls it. 1395 01:13:27.159 --> 01:13:30.640 I look, I definitely am bad for getting blind on 1396 01:13:30.680 --> 01:13:33.600 the clock and everything else. So Danny, what else is 1397 01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:35.840 on your mind? Though? I love when you bring up 1398 01:13:35.880 --> 01:13:38.119 different things, you can always twist into a new direction. 1399 01:13:39.239 --> 01:13:42.279 We don't have to stay on here, universe. Go ahead. 1400 01:13:42.640 --> 01:13:46.479 Yeah, I've got a lot. I mean, I can either 1401 01:13:46.560 --> 01:13:47.600 go dark or light. 1402 01:13:47.880 --> 01:13:49.159 And I think since we're. 1403 01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:53.800 Still in the Holy season, maybe a little bit of 1404 01:13:55.960 --> 01:13:58.439 multi faith religion talk. How does that sound? 1405 01:13:59.239 --> 01:14:01.640 Hey? Anything to get me out of the darkness that 1406 01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:03.960 I'm in. Personally, I'm all for it. What do you 1407 01:14:03.960 --> 01:14:06.760 think be perfect? Should we go? Well, I want to 1408 01:14:06.760 --> 01:14:09.439 ask B Pete? Should we go h should we go 1409 01:14:09.600 --> 01:14:11.920 multi faith religious talk here? What do you think of that? 1410 01:14:14.079 --> 01:14:16.399 Yeah? In fact, if we do that, I can quickly 1411 01:14:16.439 --> 01:14:19.520 bring in exactly what Boxing Day is because it's tied 1412 01:14:19.560 --> 01:14:21.920 to the second day of Christmas today. 1413 01:14:22.279 --> 01:14:25.720 Perfect. Okay, So did you hear the beginning where we 1414 01:14:25.720 --> 01:14:28.399 were like going, gee, I don't know anything about I 1415 01:14:28.720 --> 01:14:31.199 seem to remember I learned something about Boxing Day, but 1416 01:14:31.239 --> 01:14:34.479 I've somehow forgotten it. So B Pete's like, yeah, it's 1417 01:14:34.520 --> 01:14:37.039 Boxing Day, and I totally slipped my mind and I went, 1418 01:14:37.079 --> 01:14:39.039 you know, I can't even remember what that's actually for. 1419 01:14:39.760 --> 01:14:41.359 You want them to get into that first, or you 1420 01:14:41.359 --> 01:14:42.479 want to go into your direction. 1421 01:14:43.880 --> 01:14:47.199 No, No, let's let's let's let's let's have BP that 1422 01:14:47.319 --> 01:14:50.199 direction and then we'll well I'll see if I can 1423 01:14:50.239 --> 01:14:53.199 bounce off of that, because I've heard of that. I 1424 01:14:53.239 --> 01:14:56.399 know a little bit, but I may have a completely different, 1425 01:14:56.960 --> 01:15:01.239 different knowledge than bpe has. So there you got a 1426 01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:02.800 few peak first. 1427 01:15:02.640 --> 01:15:05.600 And I'm not recalling. So Professor B. Pete's gonna tell 1428 01:15:05.680 --> 01:15:09.920 us about Boxing Day. Go ahead, bet Pete. Maybe we'll 1429 01:15:09.960 --> 01:15:12.199 take a break after a little religious moment. 1430 01:15:12.279 --> 01:15:18.000 Yeah, good, yeah, because we'll get into multicultures too. This 1431 01:15:18.159 --> 01:15:20.800 is Boxing Day, also known as Offering Day. So you 1432 01:15:20.840 --> 01:15:24.279 were correct, you know it was, you know, offering to 1433 01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:27.479 help the poor. It's a holiday celebrated on the twenty 1434 01:15:27.479 --> 01:15:30.800 sixth of December, the day after Christmas. Boxing Day was 1435 01:15:30.840 --> 01:15:33.680 once a day to donate gifts to those in need, 1436 01:15:34.119 --> 01:15:37.199 but it has evolved to become part of the Christmas festivities. 1437 01:15:37.520 --> 01:15:40.359 It originated in the United Kingdom and is celebrated in 1438 01:15:40.439 --> 01:15:46.000 several Commonwealth nations. Uh so we're looking at what, Canada, Australia, 1439 01:15:46.920 --> 01:15:47.600 wherever else? 1440 01:15:47.720 --> 01:15:51.279 Yeah, I knew it was something in Canada, Badge of 1441 01:15:51.279 --> 01:15:53.359 the Road. Yeah. Sorry. That I could remember is that 1442 01:15:53.399 --> 01:15:55.640 it had there was something done in Canada, but I 1443 01:15:55.640 --> 01:15:58.199 couldn't remember much about it. Go Go ahead, good, great, 1444 01:15:59.520 --> 01:16:00.520 and it works. 1445 01:16:00.439 --> 01:16:04.159 Like everything that happens in Europe, they attach a bank 1446 01:16:04.199 --> 01:16:06.399 holiday to it or a public holiday, and it may 1447 01:16:06.399 --> 01:16:08.920 take place on the twenty seventh or twenty eighth, but 1448 01:16:09.039 --> 01:16:12.760 they jiggle it up so it always falls during a weekday. 1449 01:16:13.560 --> 01:16:15.920 You know, was point of having a bank holiday if 1450 01:16:15.920 --> 01:16:21.239 you can't close down? It says to Yeah, they ensure 1451 01:16:21.279 --> 01:16:24.399 it falls on a weekday and it is usually concurrent 1452 01:16:24.840 --> 01:16:28.600 with the Christian festival of Saint Stephen's Day. Now, Saint 1453 01:16:28.600 --> 01:16:32.800 Stephen's Day, I didn't realize was this big, but it 1454 01:16:32.840 --> 01:16:36.399 says in parts of Europe such as East Spain, Catalonia, 1455 01:16:36.479 --> 01:16:41.680 Valencia and the Ballaric Islands, the Czech Republic, Germany, Austria, Hungary, 1456 01:16:42.119 --> 01:16:50.319 the Netherlands, Italy, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia, Croatia, Denmark, Finland, Catholic Romania, Sweden, Belgium, Norway, 1457 01:16:50.439 --> 01:16:55.119 Latvia and the Republic of Ireland all celebrates Saint Stephen's 1458 01:16:55.199 --> 01:16:59.159 Day and that's considered the second day of Christmas. So 1459 01:16:59.279 --> 01:17:01.720 there you go. That's Boxing Day. 1460 01:17:02.119 --> 01:17:05.159 All right, So that is Boxing Day and you have 1461 01:17:05.239 --> 01:17:07.000 something to add to that, Danny, or you want to 1462 01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:07.880 go in a different. 1463 01:17:07.560 --> 01:17:14.000 Direction, Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, I was aware that 1464 01:17:14.159 --> 01:17:17.319 Saint Stephen, it was the twenty six was Saint Stephen. 1465 01:17:17.880 --> 01:17:21.640 You know that he's was the first martyr in the 1466 01:17:21.640 --> 01:17:24.640 Book of Acts. He was the first martyr of the Church. 1467 01:17:24.680 --> 01:17:27.159 So that's his celebration as Saint Stephen. 1468 01:17:28.600 --> 01:17:28.840 Yeah. 1469 01:17:28.920 --> 01:17:30.880 I've heard of boxing because I've had friends that are 1470 01:17:30.920 --> 01:17:33.720 from Canada and they, you know, they would always make 1471 01:17:33.840 --> 01:17:37.399 like a comment that this is when we rebox the 1472 01:17:37.439 --> 01:17:40.920 gifts that we don't want or something from the past 1473 01:17:41.199 --> 01:17:44.840 and rebox it. But I didn't that. I didn't know 1474 01:17:44.880 --> 01:17:50.359 the origin was from England. So I learned something. But 1475 01:17:50.399 --> 01:17:55.119 one of the things that Cal was thinking about this season, well, 1476 01:17:55.840 --> 01:17:56.920 go ahead, what. 1477 01:17:57.359 --> 01:18:01.359 Is it you bring that up? Have you ever honest, 1478 01:18:01.479 --> 01:18:04.880 be honest, now, have you ever regifted a gift? 1479 01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:15.119 Hm? Absolutely, I know, Yeah I have. You know, you 1480 01:18:15.199 --> 01:18:17.880 have no choice if you have something that you know 1481 01:18:18.079 --> 01:18:21.720 is of value, right, it's valuable, but it has no 1482 01:18:21.880 --> 01:18:24.720 value to you, like you're never gonna there is no 1483 01:18:24.840 --> 01:18:27.920 like if somebody gave me, I don't know, a spaghetti 1484 01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:33.840 making machine, a spaghetti machine and this this happened, all right. 1485 01:18:36.119 --> 01:18:39.720 You mentioned that the Irin gifted a breadmaking machine. 1486 01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:42.640 But there you go. See these these food making machines. 1487 01:18:42.840 --> 01:18:45.079 For some of us, it's like it might make sense 1488 01:18:45.119 --> 01:18:48.000 in your head, but I am never going to use 1489 01:18:48.159 --> 01:18:51.800 a spaghett A noodle making machine. It's just not gonna happen. 1490 01:18:52.359 --> 01:18:55.560 So it's gonna sit there. And what am I gonna 1491 01:18:55.560 --> 01:18:55.880 do with it? 1492 01:18:55.920 --> 01:18:56.039 Now? 1493 01:18:56.079 --> 01:18:58.560 I know it's got value, People sell them. People get 1494 01:18:58.600 --> 01:19:00.840 into this, they get into making their own stuff. They 1495 01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:04.359 make cool things even, right, But that's not going to 1496 01:19:04.399 --> 01:19:06.760 be me or anybody in my house. What am I 1497 01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:10.039 supposed to do with the thing? Well, it's got value 1498 01:19:10.079 --> 01:19:12.000 to it? Now, do you just go out and sell it? 1499 01:19:12.960 --> 01:19:16.520 You know? What's better to sell it or to regift it? 1500 01:19:16.600 --> 01:19:19.399 I don't know. I feel better regifting it than selling it, 1501 01:19:20.520 --> 01:19:23.000 you know what I mean. It's not just I mean 1502 01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:25.039 some people I think do it to be cheap, and 1503 01:19:25.079 --> 01:19:26.840 that's just all they're about. It's like, let me just 1504 01:19:26.880 --> 01:19:29.560 make sure I don't spend any money, which you know 1505 01:19:29.960 --> 01:19:32.079 is usually the people that have plenty of money. That's 1506 01:19:32.119 --> 01:19:34.319 probably why they have plenty of money, because they don't 1507 01:19:34.319 --> 01:19:37.800 spend it. But the thing is, you know, it's not 1508 01:19:37.880 --> 01:19:39.680 because I don't want to spend the money. It's because 1509 01:19:39.680 --> 01:19:42.079 I'm looking at something going, this is going to go 1510 01:19:42.119 --> 01:19:45.640 to waste sitting here with me. You know, It's exactly. 1511 01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:48.920 It's got some value, but I can't do anything with it. 1512 01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:53.000 So give it to somebody who might, right, I mean 1513 01:19:53.640 --> 01:19:54.800 yes or no? B Pete. 1514 01:19:56.800 --> 01:19:59.439 Absolutely. That's why I got rid of the bread making machine. 1515 01:19:59.520 --> 01:20:04.000 I used to bread all the time and a relative, Oh, 1516 01:20:04.039 --> 01:20:05.720 I'll give him this, And when I open it up, 1517 01:20:05.720 --> 01:20:09.159 it's like, you know, I make I make six loaves 1518 01:20:09.199 --> 01:20:11.640 of the time. Why am I going to waste my 1519 01:20:11.680 --> 01:20:14.079 time with this little machine that does it all and 1520 01:20:14.159 --> 01:20:16.520 I still have to clean up a bunch of mess. 1521 01:20:16.960 --> 01:20:20.479 This is crazy. I'll give it to somebody else, see now. 1522 01:20:20.800 --> 01:20:23.560 Okay, And that's another weird thing with people that judge 1523 01:20:23.600 --> 01:20:26.600 other people when they they they give gifts, or they're 1524 01:20:26.760 --> 01:20:28.520 you know, or they go out to look for something, 1525 01:20:29.399 --> 01:20:31.840 you know, people giving things. I'll tell you why I 1526 01:20:31.840 --> 01:20:34.800 got weird on this. I put out a post recently saying, 1527 01:20:35.119 --> 01:20:37.800 and this is true, me and Frankie are going to 1528 01:20:37.880 --> 01:20:42.039 start a card collection. Okay. And the thing is, I've 1529 01:20:42.039 --> 01:20:44.680 had baseball cards several times. I've had a couple other 1530 01:20:44.720 --> 01:20:47.880 collectible cards. I collected magic the Gathering cards for a 1531 01:20:47.880 --> 01:20:50.279 bit Okay, I've said this on the show, you guys know, 1532 01:20:51.159 --> 01:20:53.600 but I don't have any of my collections anymore, none 1533 01:20:53.640 --> 01:20:57.359 of them. Right. So my son who's eleven, is kind 1534 01:20:57.359 --> 01:20:59.520 of like maybe wanting to get into cards, and he 1535 01:20:59.560 --> 01:21:04.239 wants to like buy selling trade cards, okay, And I'm like, okay, 1536 01:21:04.239 --> 01:21:05.880 well what kind of card do you want? He has 1537 01:21:05.920 --> 01:21:08.840 no idea what kind of card he wants. So I 1538 01:21:08.840 --> 01:21:11.000 don't know if this kid wants baseball cards or he 1539 01:21:11.039 --> 01:21:14.760 wants to collect, you know, a Pokemon or I don't know, 1540 01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:17.359 you know, And what the hell am I supposed to 1541 01:21:17.399 --> 01:21:20.239 collect alongside of them? Well, I mean, I have my preferences, 1542 01:21:20.279 --> 01:21:23.119 but and I wouldn't mess with the magic cards again 1543 01:21:23.119 --> 01:21:25.399 because I don't want to play. No point in collecting 1544 01:21:25.439 --> 01:21:27.359 them if I'm not going to play. But I could 1545 01:21:27.399 --> 01:21:31.199 see collecting baseball cards, especially because you know, I see 1546 01:21:31.199 --> 01:21:34.359 that there's kind of a past five six years, there's 1547 01:21:34.399 --> 01:21:36.800 been a bit of a move like online, people making 1548 01:21:36.920 --> 01:21:40.119 channels and stuff even out of their baseball cards and 1549 01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:43.359 opening packs and showing things, and I don't know, it's 1550 01:21:43.399 --> 01:21:46.359 a weird sort of community thing, and I could see 1551 01:21:46.359 --> 01:21:48.600 getting into and that would actually probably get me back 1552 01:21:48.640 --> 01:21:53.159 into watching baseball, right, so I could see recollecting baseball cards. 1553 01:21:53.159 --> 01:21:55.439 But given the fact that I've already had collections I 1554 01:21:55.520 --> 01:21:59.720 enjoyed and have no idea how to begin again with 1555 01:21:59.880 --> 01:22:04.239 no money. I said online because I suggested this to 1556 01:22:04.279 --> 01:22:05.960 a couple of people that you know, me and Frankie 1557 01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:09.319 are going to make card collections. They said, well, there's 1558 01:22:09.319 --> 01:22:13.279 always free cards around and I said, okay, well free 1559 01:22:13.319 --> 01:22:14.960 cards from where? And they said, well, you know, you 1560 01:22:14.960 --> 01:22:17.239 can write to places, and sometimes there are people that 1561 01:22:17.279 --> 01:22:20.319 are collectors that want to give away cards to get 1562 01:22:20.359 --> 01:22:24.720 somebody's Like Frankie started. I said, okay, well what do 1563 01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:27.880 you mean like and he's like, you know, companies, individual people. 1564 01:22:28.319 --> 01:22:30.079 He said, sometimes even if you just go to the 1565 01:22:30.119 --> 01:22:31.920 flea market and you talk to a card guy for 1566 01:22:31.960 --> 01:22:34.359 a minute, he might give you some of his junk 1567 01:22:35.359 --> 01:22:37.840 just to get the kids started. And I said what 1568 01:22:37.920 --> 01:22:40.159 kind is he said, well, it could be anything. And 1569 01:22:40.279 --> 01:22:43.079 like you said, every card guy ends up with stuff 1570 01:22:43.199 --> 01:22:45.479 that you know, they don't want, So they end up 1571 01:22:45.479 --> 01:22:48.600 with like you know, Batman trading cards and they don't 1572 01:22:48.640 --> 01:22:51.159 want them, but somehow they ended up with them. They 1573 01:22:51.239 --> 01:22:53.359 might be happy to have you clean out a box 1574 01:22:53.439 --> 01:22:55.159 or two or take home a box or two where 1575 01:22:55.159 --> 01:22:58.239 their crap and that might be the card that Frankie 1576 01:22:58.239 --> 01:23:00.720 wants because you don't know, you know, he might be 1577 01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:03.680 into it. And they make collectible cards for everything, and 1578 01:23:03.760 --> 01:23:07.319 I mean literally everything. If you think about it, anything 1579 01:23:07.319 --> 01:23:11.279 of interest where there's people or things, there's probably a 1580 01:23:11.279 --> 01:23:16.479 collectible card that covers it. Even recently, the Tops Baseball Company, 1581 01:23:16.560 --> 01:23:20.279 you know, Tops card company, Tops Gum Company, really got 1582 01:23:20.319 --> 01:23:23.399 backed the license to do WWE cards, so they're doing 1583 01:23:23.399 --> 01:23:26.760 wrestling cards again right now. Some of this stuff is 1584 01:23:26.800 --> 01:23:30.239 high end, boutique whatever, but there's also an era of 1585 01:23:30.359 --> 01:23:34.279 overproduction where there's just so much crap out there nobody 1586 01:23:34.279 --> 01:23:37.880 cares about it, and you know, and literally there's like, 1587 01:23:37.920 --> 01:23:40.239 you know, a whole bunch of videos online and people 1588 01:23:40.239 --> 01:23:43.880 writing stories about you know, being given a thousand cards 1589 01:23:43.960 --> 01:23:46.560 or ten thousand cards or buying them for five bucks 1590 01:23:46.680 --> 01:23:50.119 or whatever. So I put out a post on Twitter 1591 01:23:50.159 --> 01:23:53.359 and Facebook saying, hey, look, if anybody has an idea 1592 01:23:53.399 --> 01:23:56.119 where I get some free cards, let me know because 1593 01:23:56.119 --> 01:23:58.359 I'd like to just you know, give him to Frankie 1594 01:23:58.439 --> 01:24:02.720 see what it is he likes. And you know, so 1595 01:24:03.079 --> 01:24:04.720 the first guy that I was talking to in the 1596 01:24:04.720 --> 01:24:06.840 first place, gave me a thing to fill out. It's 1597 01:24:06.840 --> 01:24:11.000 called Baseball Buddies or something, and supposedly if you write 1598 01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:13.800 to them and you just you know, sign up for 1599 01:24:13.880 --> 01:24:17.880 their newsletter, they'll happily send you some free cards. Supposedly, 1600 01:24:18.600 --> 01:24:21.680 and apparently there's other offers like that for every kind 1601 01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:24.720 of card collecting out there. So I don't have the 1602 01:24:24.760 --> 01:24:27.199 ability to gather and I tried to search to find it. 1603 01:24:27.640 --> 01:24:29.920 I don't see it. But I'm being told by people 1604 01:24:29.920 --> 01:24:36.520 in general that you know, almost any you know, football, baseball, basketball, whatever, boxing, 1605 01:24:36.840 --> 01:24:40.880 garbage pail kids, it doesn't matter. There's almost always either 1606 01:24:40.920 --> 01:24:44.560 a community or a company or a manufacturer that gives 1607 01:24:44.600 --> 01:24:47.600 away cards. So I in general put out that post 1608 01:24:47.680 --> 01:24:50.880 ask does anybody know hook me up with the information basically, 1609 01:24:52.760 --> 01:24:54.319 and I had people get mad at me, a couple 1610 01:24:54.399 --> 01:24:56.960 of them like saying, like, you know, it's Christmas and 1611 01:24:57.000 --> 01:25:00.319 you're asking for free cards. I said, I mean asking 1612 01:25:00.359 --> 01:25:02.600 where it is that everybody gets them from, because I 1613 01:25:02.600 --> 01:25:05.039 have no idea where to find them. It's an honest thing. 1614 01:25:05.960 --> 01:25:08.439 I'll write to whoever or tell me where it is. 1615 01:25:08.520 --> 01:25:11.800 I can, you know, make my request or whatever. But 1616 01:25:12.079 --> 01:25:15.760 most people's stories I'm starting to gather revolve around them 1617 01:25:15.840 --> 01:25:17.880 just sort of being lucky, being in the right place 1618 01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:19.920 at the right time. And it's usually a face to 1619 01:25:19.960 --> 01:25:23.600 face thing. However, there are other people out there online 1620 01:25:23.640 --> 01:25:27.560 who make you know, videos and posts not my personal messages, 1621 01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:31.439 who tell stories of you know, running into it on 1622 01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:35.239 Facebook marketplace and buying it for super cheap, or showing 1623 01:25:35.319 --> 01:25:37.800 up to buy something else, and somebody else goes, hey, look, 1624 01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:40.680 also take these with you and turns around and gives 1625 01:25:40.680 --> 01:25:42.279 them a box of cards that happen to have a 1626 01:25:42.279 --> 01:25:46.039 Babe Ruth card in it, you know, And they don't know, 1627 01:25:46.119 --> 01:25:48.319 they don't care. It was their great grandfathers, it was 1628 01:25:48.359 --> 01:25:51.279 their moms, it was whatever or stuff they find in 1629 01:25:51.319 --> 01:25:54.640 a junk drawer. You know. Somebody says, please buy my 1630 01:25:54.720 --> 01:25:56.800 junk drawer full of crap, give me ten bucks. I'll 1631 01:25:56.840 --> 01:26:00.800 be happy, and they walk away with, you know, a 1632 01:26:00.840 --> 01:26:04.680 handful of baseball cards that are worth half of fortune. 1633 01:26:04.800 --> 01:26:06.760 I'm not looking to walk away with half a fortune. 1634 01:26:06.800 --> 01:26:08.680 I was just looking for how do I start to 1635 01:26:08.760 --> 01:26:13.239 even physically get cards in this kid's hands so he 1636 01:26:13.279 --> 01:26:15.479 can like discern and say, you know what, I like 1637 01:26:15.520 --> 01:26:17.239 this and don't like this. I don't know if he's 1638 01:26:17.279 --> 01:26:20.439 going to wind up, you know, collecting basketball cards, which 1639 01:26:20.439 --> 01:26:22.159 would be one of the least interesting things in the 1640 01:26:22.159 --> 01:26:25.319 world to me. But but if he does that and 1641 01:26:25.399 --> 01:26:29.239 I simultaneously collect something with him, you know, eventually, when 1642 01:26:29.239 --> 01:26:31.199 I have some extra money, I'll go buy some packs 1643 01:26:31.319 --> 01:26:33.680 or something and you know, see if I can get 1644 01:26:33.680 --> 01:26:37.279 myself started a little bit. And then i'll just you know, 1645 01:26:37.840 --> 01:26:40.640 trade and acquire on the cheap. And once I get 1646 01:26:40.680 --> 01:26:42.720 you know, healthy again, we'll go to the flea market. 1647 01:26:43.199 --> 01:26:45.079 That's a good place to look for stuff, and we'll 1648 01:26:45.119 --> 01:26:47.840 be on the lookout for broad sales and all. Like 1649 01:26:47.880 --> 01:26:50.399 what people do I think in this hobby. But some 1650 01:26:50.439 --> 01:26:52.239 people got mad at me, like I'm asking for free 1651 01:26:52.279 --> 01:26:54.239 stuff on Christmas, and I'm like, well, first of all, 1652 01:26:54.239 --> 01:26:57.159 there's a million people online asking for pre stuff on Christmas. 1653 01:26:57.640 --> 01:27:00.000 But secondly, all I was asking for was the information. 1654 01:27:01.319 --> 01:27:04.319 So you know, I mean, obviously, if somebody wants to 1655 01:27:04.640 --> 01:27:07.199 donate some cards to Frankie, I'll be more than happy 1656 01:27:07.239 --> 01:27:09.720 whatever they are, as long as they're not porno or 1657 01:27:09.760 --> 01:27:12.000 something stupid, which they make those two. By the way, 1658 01:27:12.680 --> 01:27:15.439 you know, there's cards for strippers and Playboy models and 1659 01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:20.920 literally porno actresses. I mean not just collectible, not not 1660 01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:23.680 just playing cards, which, by the way, come to think 1661 01:27:23.720 --> 01:27:25.479 of it as the only cards I actually own right 1662 01:27:25.520 --> 01:27:27.479 now is my Aces of Spades. I have an Ace 1663 01:27:27.520 --> 01:27:31.680 of Spades collection and a handful of other odd playing cards, 1664 01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:35.399 which I would gladly start to even trade for some 1665 01:27:35.439 --> 01:27:37.960 of the you know, some baseball, some old junk baseball. 1666 01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:42.000 I'll give you some decks of playing cards, or I'll 1667 01:27:42.039 --> 01:27:45.159 give you some of my doubles of my Aces of Spades. 1668 01:27:45.279 --> 01:27:48.199 I'm not going to break up that collection, but because 1669 01:27:48.199 --> 01:27:49.800 I'm going to keep that. But that's the only card 1670 01:27:49.840 --> 01:27:52.640 collection I have. I used to have a fairly extensive 1671 01:27:52.640 --> 01:27:56.319 collection of all New York Mets cards, and my favorite players, 1672 01:27:56.960 --> 01:28:02.880 mainly Nolan Ryan. Expect to recollect that, but gladly I 1673 01:28:02.920 --> 01:28:04.960 would if it's available, or I find it, or I 1674 01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:08.399 stumble across it. And I certainly if I started collecting 1675 01:28:08.439 --> 01:28:11.279 baseball cards, I would start to hang on to the 1676 01:28:11.319 --> 01:28:13.800 New York Mets as much as I could, just to 1677 01:28:14.479 --> 01:28:19.399 kind of rebuild that collection, you know, little nostalgia rebuilds that. 1678 01:28:19.439 --> 01:28:21.600 I wouldn't be the first guy to do that, but 1679 01:28:21.680 --> 01:28:23.319 I don't know what Frankie wants. I don't know if 1680 01:28:23.319 --> 01:28:26.079 he's gonna want Yu gi Oh cards or you know, 1681 01:28:26.199 --> 01:28:28.359 or cards or the presidents of the United States. I 1682 01:28:28.359 --> 01:28:32.000 mean literally, you can't think of something that involves people 1683 01:28:32.359 --> 01:28:36.680 doing any activity that doesn't have collectible cards. And you 1684 01:28:36.680 --> 01:28:39.359 know what, I challenge b Pete and Danny right now, actually, 1685 01:28:39.439 --> 01:28:41.279 and then we'll move on from this subject, go back 1686 01:28:41.319 --> 01:28:44.760 to the religious topic. But I'll challenge you, guys, do 1687 01:28:44.760 --> 01:28:46.159 you want to take a break and give you time 1688 01:28:46.159 --> 01:28:48.560 to think about this, because I want you to try 1689 01:28:48.560 --> 01:28:50.079 and come up with a couple of things that you 1690 01:28:50.199 --> 01:28:53.479 think don't have collectible cards, Like, don't look it up, 1691 01:28:53.800 --> 01:28:56.000 just try to come up with, say two three things 1692 01:28:56.720 --> 01:28:59.680 that you think don't have collectible cards attached to it. 1693 01:29:01.199 --> 01:29:03.560 Activities that involve people. Here you go, that would be 1694 01:29:03.560 --> 01:29:06.840 the only generalized category. You try and find me a 1695 01:29:06.840 --> 01:29:10.359 couple of things you know, outside of ridiculous. Well, actually, no, 1696 01:29:10.960 --> 01:29:12.560 you don't have to go out and forget about the 1697 01:29:12.640 --> 01:29:18.199 outside of ridiculous. Any activity that involves people that doesn't 1698 01:29:18.199 --> 01:29:21.439 have a collectible card that you could focus on. You 1699 01:29:21.479 --> 01:29:22.920 see if you can come up with two or three 1700 01:29:22.960 --> 01:29:25.199 examples both of you. What do you think of that 1701 01:29:25.239 --> 01:29:26.960 you want to take that challenge during the break or 1702 01:29:27.000 --> 01:29:29.439 you want to do it now? Bpete, what do you think? 1703 01:29:30.880 --> 01:29:33.479 Well, I'm doing now because I can't think of anything 1704 01:29:34.239 --> 01:29:36.640 that doesn't have cards attached to it in some form 1705 01:29:36.720 --> 01:29:37.159 or manner. 1706 01:29:38.399 --> 01:29:42.000 Yeah, I can't either, but maybe Danny can You want 1707 01:29:42.039 --> 01:29:43.359 to do it now, Danny, or you want to take 1708 01:29:43.359 --> 01:29:43.720 a break. 1709 01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:47.680 I'm in the same boat. I can't think everything seas 1710 01:29:47.760 --> 01:29:50.720 to have cards, and I have a little experience, not 1711 01:29:50.840 --> 01:29:53.600 that I'm really a card collector, but they have grandchildren 1712 01:29:53.640 --> 01:29:58.720 that are into cards and going shopping form I found 1713 01:29:58.720 --> 01:30:02.680 out the pokemon is damn near impossible to get and 1714 01:30:02.720 --> 01:30:05.159 found out what was my daughter informed? Because a whole 1715 01:30:05.199 --> 01:30:07.720 bunch of grown men like to buy them up and 1716 01:30:07.760 --> 01:30:09.840 hoard them as soon as they come out because they 1717 01:30:09.880 --> 01:30:13.560 know they have some value to them. So are POGs 1718 01:30:14.239 --> 01:30:16.439 They easy to find? 1719 01:30:16.439 --> 01:30:17.319 Remember POGs? 1720 01:30:17.479 --> 01:30:19.720 Well, see, POGs are a toy. I know they were 1721 01:30:19.720 --> 01:30:22.800 a collectible toy, but they're a toy. I wouldn't categorize 1722 01:30:22.800 --> 01:30:26.079 them as collectible cards, but I know they still exist. 1723 01:30:27.039 --> 01:30:30.079 They don't have anywhere near the popularity or value they 1724 01:30:30.119 --> 01:30:32.840 once did you know what I mean. They're kind of 1725 01:30:32.840 --> 01:30:35.199 like beanie babies, you know what I mean. They still 1726 01:30:35.239 --> 01:30:38.359 have some value, but yeah, nothing like what it was, 1727 01:30:39.840 --> 01:30:40.399 you know what I mean. 1728 01:30:41.319 --> 01:30:46.960 But I look at beanie babies like bitcoin. You know, 1729 01:30:47.239 --> 01:30:49.920 if you corner the market on beanie babies, they suddenly 1730 01:30:49.960 --> 01:30:50.720 become worthless. 1731 01:30:50.920 --> 01:30:53.800 But here's the thing about this, right, is that the 1732 01:30:53.920 --> 01:30:56.840 cards are even funnier than that. Because I was gonna say, 1733 01:30:56.920 --> 01:30:59.720 just think of any activity that isn't like outrageous or 1734 01:30:59.760 --> 01:31:03.399 rediculous or illegal, and you know what, that's not true either, 1735 01:31:03.800 --> 01:31:07.840 because there are collectible cards for murderers, you know, serial 1736 01:31:07.920 --> 01:31:08.960 killer cards. 1737 01:31:09.640 --> 01:31:10.960 That I've heard of, that. 1738 01:31:12.840 --> 01:31:17.159 There's unsolved murder case cards. There is Most Wanted cards 1739 01:31:17.159 --> 01:31:19.680 out there, which they actually usually put on playing card 1740 01:31:19.760 --> 01:31:23.239 decks but become collectible where somebody's most wanted. And I 1741 01:31:23.239 --> 01:31:26.000 don't mean just like the national one. I mean I 1742 01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:28.239 I have a deck or had a deck literally and 1743 01:31:28.279 --> 01:31:31.399 have the ass spades out of it from somewhere in 1744 01:31:31.439 --> 01:31:34.920 Connecticut where they took a county and printed their fifty 1745 01:31:34.960 --> 01:31:39.520 two most Wanted Criminals wanted posters on the cards. Okay. 1746 01:31:41.720 --> 01:31:45.920 In other words, there's literally a collectible card for everything, anything, 1747 01:31:45.920 --> 01:31:46.680 you can imagine. 1748 01:31:46.680 --> 01:31:50.359 And yes, yeah, remember back during the Iraq War, they 1749 01:31:50.359 --> 01:31:54.159 had cards out with uh certain people on them. Who 1750 01:31:54.199 --> 01:31:59.600 was the who was the ass was Saddam the as spades, but. 1751 01:32:00.119 --> 01:32:02.000 Ended on which kind of deck you got. There was 1752 01:32:02.079 --> 01:32:06.279 one that officially went through the military, okay, like military 1753 01:32:06.319 --> 01:32:08.279 people only could get a hold of them, like some 1754 01:32:08.439 --> 01:32:12.479 general printed them up to start with. Those had the 1755 01:32:12.520 --> 01:32:15.039 fifty two most wanted the people you wanted to kill 1756 01:32:15.039 --> 01:32:20.560 in Iraq, okay, And those cards had Saddam Hussein is 1757 01:32:20.600 --> 01:32:24.079 the Ace of Spades. Now there are other versions of 1758 01:32:24.159 --> 01:32:26.399 Iraq War decks out there, and I happen to have 1759 01:32:26.880 --> 01:32:30.840 a couple of different ones myself, and another version of 1760 01:32:30.880 --> 01:32:36.800 them has George W. Bush as the Ace of Spades okay, 1761 01:32:37.119 --> 01:32:40.119 and Dick Dick Cheney is also high up in there 1762 01:32:40.119 --> 01:32:45.279 somehow too. And yeah, so you know depending you got 1763 01:32:45.319 --> 01:32:47.640 colon pals got a card in that set, all kinds 1764 01:32:47.640 --> 01:32:53.840 of stuff like that. Yeah, husaying is whosaying and oh 1765 01:32:53.880 --> 01:32:56.880 I know what it was, husseyin and his two sons 1766 01:32:56.880 --> 01:32:59.039 on the fifty two most wanted. That's what made the 1767 01:32:59.079 --> 01:33:02.680 news because it was like, you know, when you when 1768 01:33:02.680 --> 01:33:05.199 you get these guys, we're supposed to kill them all, 1769 01:33:05.239 --> 01:33:06.920 Like the idea is to kill all fifty two of 1770 01:33:06.960 --> 01:33:11.119 these key people. And one of them was named Chemical Ali. 1771 01:33:11.880 --> 01:33:16.319 Remember they were calling the one character Chemical Ali. They 1772 01:33:16.319 --> 01:33:16.960 were maintainer. 1773 01:33:17.319 --> 01:33:21.479 It was in charge of the weapons, the mass destruction program. 1774 01:33:21.760 --> 01:33:24.560 Yeah. So but that was playing cards. But on top 1775 01:33:24.600 --> 01:33:28.199 of playing cards, there's also been a collection for Desert Storm. 1776 01:33:28.439 --> 01:33:31.880 There's been a collection for you know, different wars. There 1777 01:33:31.920 --> 01:33:38.319 are Vietnam Retro you know, conflict photo photo collectible cards. 1778 01:33:38.920 --> 01:33:41.359 See it's like a baseball card as opposed to a 1779 01:33:41.399 --> 01:33:44.920 playing card. But the Iraq wars, both of them had 1780 01:33:44.960 --> 01:33:49.760 both collectibles and playing cards. So I'm just saying there's 1781 01:33:49.840 --> 01:33:52.439 like literally nothing you can think of that I can't 1782 01:33:52.520 --> 01:33:55.039 find some way or other, you know what I mean. 1783 01:33:56.000 --> 01:33:59.279 Politics has a variety of cards. Some candidates have their 1784 01:33:59.279 --> 01:34:02.239 own decks, you know, vote Bush Vote I have a 1785 01:34:02.319 --> 01:34:05.800 vote Hillary vote Bush, and several vote Trump cards and 1786 01:34:05.840 --> 01:34:10.479 my Asis page collections, you know, just stuff like that. 1787 01:34:10.680 --> 01:34:13.159 But those are being made. I have one for JFK 1788 01:34:13.399 --> 01:34:18.000 also because they made one during the Kennedy campaign in 1789 01:34:18.119 --> 01:34:22.079 sixty and then there's a couple of you know, like 1790 01:34:22.159 --> 01:34:24.840 ones that are meant to you know, be a flashback 1791 01:34:24.880 --> 01:34:27.640 to it or whatever homage to the original deck. But 1792 01:34:27.880 --> 01:34:31.199 you know, politicians make them, local companies make them to 1793 01:34:31.239 --> 01:34:35.319 promote their companies. Playing cards, but collectible cards where you know, 1794 01:34:35.359 --> 01:34:37.399 it's like a baseball card where you've got to figure 1795 01:34:37.439 --> 01:34:39.920 on it and some sort of story or stats on 1796 01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:42.840 the back. Some of those military cards you get a 1797 01:34:42.840 --> 01:34:45.159 sniper and it tells you how many official kills they have, 1798 01:34:45.800 --> 01:34:49.880 stuff like this. But they do that from everything from 1799 01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:53.760 soldiers and firefighters in your local area. Like that's another 1800 01:34:53.800 --> 01:34:56.319 thing is you'll see localized ones where it's like to 1801 01:34:56.439 --> 01:35:00.000 raise money for the volunteer fire department, they release their 1802 01:35:00.039 --> 01:35:04.399 own collectible cards. Cops in New Jersey tried to improve 1803 01:35:04.439 --> 01:35:08.279 their uh there standing with the public and with the 1804 01:35:08.319 --> 01:35:11.159 fact that the kids hated them in different neighborhoods by 1805 01:35:11.159 --> 01:35:14.520 making a card out of each of the policemen so 1806 01:35:14.600 --> 01:35:17.279 you could collect the sergeant and you know, and the 1807 01:35:17.319 --> 01:35:20.239 commander of the watch, and you know, the chief of 1808 01:35:20.319 --> 01:35:24.359 police had a special card. You know, this kind of thing. Literally, 1809 01:35:24.680 --> 01:35:27.079 this is done all over the place. So I mean, 1810 01:35:27.159 --> 01:35:29.560 I can't find a single thing in my mind there 1811 01:35:29.560 --> 01:35:32.439 would be an activity that involves people that doesn't have 1812 01:35:32.479 --> 01:35:35.119 a collectible card, and apparently you guys can't think of 1813 01:35:35.119 --> 01:35:35.600 one either. 1814 01:35:36.079 --> 01:35:46.399 Right, Well, there's a huge commercial bis War two. 1815 01:35:46.560 --> 01:35:51.159 Nazis in the country of Germany may not find those. 1816 01:35:51.920 --> 01:35:54.359 Oh okay, well there are Nazi trading cards. 1817 01:35:56.439 --> 01:35:57.319 That's what I thought. 1818 01:35:57.479 --> 01:36:00.760 Yeah, you can't sell I don't. I probably you go 1819 01:36:00.760 --> 01:36:03.279 to prison for thirty years if you sold them in Germany. 1820 01:36:04.039 --> 01:36:06.239 Are are you having trouble hear Are you having trouble 1821 01:36:06.239 --> 01:36:06.800 hearing Danny? 1822 01:36:06.800 --> 01:36:11.279 B Pete by the way, Oh yeah, I mean that's 1823 01:36:12.119 --> 01:36:13.800 I try to I try to jump in when I 1824 01:36:13.800 --> 01:36:17.039 hear a gap, and if I don't hear him, then 1825 01:36:17.079 --> 01:36:20.439 I'll start talking and then eventually he'll start popping through 1826 01:36:20.479 --> 01:36:21.279 a couple of words. 1827 01:36:21.319 --> 01:36:23.800 So I really have no way of knowing who's got 1828 01:36:23.800 --> 01:36:24.199 the mic. 1829 01:36:24.439 --> 01:36:27.279 Okay, in real time, here's what's happening. You're you're on it. 1830 01:36:27.560 --> 01:36:29.039 I don't know what it is. We got to figure 1831 01:36:29.079 --> 01:36:31.159 this out with you because you're you're on a delay. 1832 01:36:32.359 --> 01:36:36.960 You're hearing a gap. Oh really? Yeah, because well not you, Danny, 1833 01:36:36.960 --> 01:36:39.800 You're not on the delay. But B Pete is not 1834 01:36:39.880 --> 01:36:43.840 hearing you in real Yeah. B Pete is not hearing 1835 01:36:43.840 --> 01:36:47.840 you in real time, and so he starts talking, is 1836 01:36:47.920 --> 01:36:51.880 he actually yeah, he's on a regular phone and somehow 1837 01:36:51.920 --> 01:36:57.359 you Yeah, so it's a relay not in real time 1838 01:36:58.159 --> 01:37:00.600 between you two. So it's a real issue. 1839 01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:03.600 I don't know, I'm not hearing. Apparently it's something in 1840 01:37:03.680 --> 01:37:06.680 the the what is this jitsu or whatever it is 1841 01:37:06.720 --> 01:37:09.720 you're using, it's you know, I hear delay with you 1842 01:37:09.800 --> 01:37:13.000 as well. Yeah, so some kind of maybe I should 1843 01:37:13.039 --> 01:37:14.840 call in I don't know. 1844 01:37:15.640 --> 01:37:17.720 Well, you know what, we'll experiment with it next week 1845 01:37:17.760 --> 01:37:21.039 because we're actually running down to the last twenty minutes here, 1846 01:37:21.079 --> 01:37:22.720 and I wanted to give Danny a chance to fill 1847 01:37:22.720 --> 01:37:24.439 in because we went off on a tear and I 1848 01:37:24.439 --> 01:37:28.439 wound up side you know, side roading here with the cards. 1849 01:37:29.039 --> 01:37:31.880 But anyway, I don't know why people are mad at 1850 01:37:31.880 --> 01:37:35.159 me for that. I think it's stupid and quite frankly, 1851 01:37:35.239 --> 01:37:37.199 all I'm saying is just point me to the stuff. 1852 01:37:37.199 --> 01:37:39.520 I'm not even asking anybody for anything except you know, 1853 01:37:39.600 --> 01:37:42.000 tell me where I can sign up or how I 1854 01:37:42.039 --> 01:37:44.840 can get in on all these giveaways everybody tells me about. 1855 01:37:45.479 --> 01:37:47.640 Because I mean I literally had four or five people 1856 01:37:47.680 --> 01:37:50.760 say to me, like, you know, you don't even have 1857 01:37:50.840 --> 01:37:52.880 to pay. You can get him started for nothing, because 1858 01:37:52.920 --> 01:37:55.960 people give away cards everywhere, and I'm like, okay, show 1859 01:37:56.000 --> 01:37:58.760 me where everywhere is, you know what I mean, just 1860 01:37:58.800 --> 01:38:02.279 to get him started at least, and I'll figure out 1861 01:38:02.319 --> 01:38:04.520 my own collection as I go. Maybe somebody will be 1862 01:38:04.560 --> 01:38:06.479 nice to give him baseball cards he doesn't want, or 1863 01:38:06.520 --> 01:38:09.079 maybe he'll like baseball. We can collect them literally together. 1864 01:38:09.720 --> 01:38:12.000 But either way, I wanted to do this activity with him, 1865 01:38:12.640 --> 01:38:16.119 and I'm just thinking that we'll get actually much better 1866 01:38:16.199 --> 01:38:19.439 selection of things if people from all over to place 1867 01:38:19.479 --> 01:38:22.439 give us different ideas. And here's another thing. Some things 1868 01:38:22.479 --> 01:38:25.840 are available in certain countries and they're either well not 1869 01:38:25.880 --> 01:38:29.279 necessarily not available in the US, but nobody knows about 1870 01:38:29.279 --> 01:38:31.880 them in the US. You know, Like I said, I 1871 01:38:31.920 --> 01:38:34.159 guarantee you there's people in other countries that don't know 1872 01:38:34.199 --> 01:38:38.640 that local police departments have literally put out like upper deck, 1873 01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:44.479 you know, quality trading cards of their local cops. I 1874 01:38:44.520 --> 01:38:47.520 guarantee you. You know, somebody in I don't know, let's 1875 01:38:47.560 --> 01:38:51.640 pick a place Switzerland has no idea that that happens 1876 01:38:51.640 --> 01:38:55.199 in America, So I assume the inverse is true. Also, 1877 01:38:55.239 --> 01:38:58.000 there's probably stuff on you know, god knows what in 1878 01:38:58.119 --> 01:39:01.199 other countries that I have no idea about. You know, 1879 01:39:01.399 --> 01:39:05.800 maybe in Iran they collect the pictures of the moms 1880 01:39:05.920 --> 01:39:09.359 and you know, the different iatolas. I don't know, who knows, 1881 01:39:09.800 --> 01:39:12.239 you know, and in other places, maybe you get your 1882 01:39:12.279 --> 01:39:14.000 head cut off because you're not allowed to make pictures 1883 01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:17.439 of people. I don't know whatever, But I guarantee you 1884 01:39:17.479 --> 01:39:21.640 there's collectible cards in other countries and who knows. So 1885 01:39:21.920 --> 01:39:25.119 I'm just saying I just want to make that announcement 1886 01:39:25.159 --> 01:39:28.079 on here too. If anybody knows about where to get 1887 01:39:28.119 --> 01:39:32.399 you know, free cards or whatever, let me know, because 1888 01:39:32.399 --> 01:39:34.520 I'll be more than happy to go send the email 1889 01:39:34.640 --> 01:39:37.479 or you know, or apply for sign up for a 1890 01:39:37.520 --> 01:39:40.760 newsletter or whatever it is, and you know, get him 1891 01:39:40.800 --> 01:39:43.000 some free cards to get started with. At least they 1892 01:39:43.000 --> 01:39:44.840 have something to look at, or if you know about 1893 01:39:44.840 --> 01:39:48.399 a place that does it, because apparently there are card 1894 01:39:48.479 --> 01:39:52.960 exchanges and things out there now, Like there's something called 1895 01:39:53.239 --> 01:39:55.960 what not I think they call it. You ever heard 1896 01:39:55.960 --> 01:39:56.960 of that bepete? What not? 1897 01:39:59.600 --> 01:40:01.000 No, that's a new one on me. 1898 01:40:01.600 --> 01:40:04.560 Whatnots kind of like a trading platform apparently for like 1899 01:40:04.680 --> 01:40:08.239 card people, so they're different, like you know, influencers and 1900 01:40:08.279 --> 01:40:11.760 stuff on there who like they do different drawings and 1901 01:40:11.800 --> 01:40:14.359 games and things to try and encourage people. And again, 1902 01:40:14.840 --> 01:40:16.640 at the end of the day, it's all about people going, 1903 01:40:16.680 --> 01:40:19.840 look what I have in my collection and trading with 1904 01:40:19.920 --> 01:40:22.479 other people, like, hey, I've got all these from nineteen 1905 01:40:22.520 --> 01:40:25.439 eighty nine, or you know, does somebody have the elusive 1906 01:40:25.520 --> 01:40:29.199 nineteen sixty three Fleer cards Because one year in nineteen 1907 01:40:29.279 --> 01:40:32.960 sixty three Fleer made cards baseball cards, and then they 1908 01:40:32.960 --> 01:40:35.399 got sued and went away, and then they didn't come 1909 01:40:35.439 --> 01:40:39.319 back again until nineteen eighty one. You know, hard to 1910 01:40:39.319 --> 01:40:41.479 find stuff. If somebody has some of these Fleer cards, 1911 01:40:41.520 --> 01:40:43.239 well maybe I have a Mickey Manno, I'm willing to 1912 01:40:43.239 --> 01:40:46.760 give up, you know. And that's another weird thing is 1913 01:40:46.800 --> 01:40:49.279 that you have the whole grading system and these guys 1914 01:40:49.319 --> 01:40:52.680 talk about it, so it's like an online community of 1915 01:40:52.760 --> 01:40:55.800 people to trade baseball cards with or not just baseball. 1916 01:40:55.840 --> 01:40:58.079 I keep saying baseball because that's what I did first. 1917 01:40:58.800 --> 01:41:00.880 But I mean in the first cards I ever got 1918 01:41:00.920 --> 01:41:05.000 where somebody's junk. I picked up stuff literally off the street. 1919 01:41:05.800 --> 01:41:08.000 And then there was an older kid who was like, 1920 01:41:08.039 --> 01:41:10.439 I have so many doubles of this other crap here, 1921 01:41:10.520 --> 01:41:13.840 take them and here take up my beat up cards 1922 01:41:13.880 --> 01:41:15.600 because he's a beat up and I don't want them. 1923 01:41:16.439 --> 01:41:19.079 And I took those and started a baseball card collection. 1924 01:41:19.239 --> 01:41:21.319 And I did that a few times. But as a 1925 01:41:21.319 --> 01:41:23.039 little kid, that's how I got into it. It's just 1926 01:41:23.600 --> 01:41:27.760 other people's junk had value to me. So I was 1927 01:41:27.840 --> 01:41:29.640 kind of looking to do that. And plus he's kind 1928 01:41:29.640 --> 01:41:31.520 of interested in the idea of being able to like 1929 01:41:31.560 --> 01:41:33.920 if he gets a massive collection, he'd like to go 1930 01:41:33.960 --> 01:41:37.000 set up a flea market table. He's eleven, And you 1931 01:41:37.039 --> 01:41:40.159 know what, I encourage the idea of go ahead, buy, sell, trade, 1932 01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:43.079 learn how things work, learn how to wheel and deal 1933 01:41:43.119 --> 01:41:46.239 with people. And this is a little different social interaction, 1934 01:41:46.439 --> 01:41:49.800 but whatever, I kind of think it's a good, solid idea. 1935 01:41:51.199 --> 01:41:55.159 But anyway, here I am. So if anybody knows about 1936 01:41:55.159 --> 01:41:57.079 where to get cards of any kind from that, I 1937 01:41:57.079 --> 01:42:01.039 could expose the kid to the card collecting. You know, 1938 01:42:01.159 --> 01:42:05.319 possibilities in the universe. Why not, There's many worse things 1939 01:42:05.319 --> 01:42:06.960 I could be doing to look to educate the kid 1940 01:42:06.960 --> 01:42:10.119 about or to expose them to. I think, and before 1941 01:42:10.159 --> 01:42:13.279 anybody asks, yes, indeed, all the pornographic stuff you could 1942 01:42:13.279 --> 01:42:17.079 possibly imagine is covered in collectible trading cards as well. 1943 01:42:18.479 --> 01:42:21.560 You know, everything from like tame things like swimsuit models 1944 01:42:21.600 --> 01:42:26.119 all the way to yep, hardcore whatever, and you know 1945 01:42:26.560 --> 01:42:30.720 cards that are based on sexual positions and the funky stuff. 1946 01:42:30.800 --> 01:42:33.159 There is stuff from like the nineteen seventies, which is 1947 01:42:33.199 --> 01:42:37.239 hilarious because you know, find the genitals among the hair 1948 01:42:37.399 --> 01:42:41.279 is usually the game there, but you know, and stuff 1949 01:42:41.319 --> 01:42:43.000 like that, and you see like, you know, white guys 1950 01:42:43.000 --> 01:42:45.000 with afros on there. I mean, all kinds of funky 1951 01:42:45.039 --> 01:42:50.640 stuff in the nineteen seventies, porno cards, but you know, 1952 01:42:50.840 --> 01:42:54.479 they exist all that. And also, oh, Asians, there's lots 1953 01:42:54.520 --> 01:42:57.399 of like Asian women collectible cards. I don't even know 1954 01:42:57.479 --> 01:43:00.640 these women are, but apparently they're famous for something or 1955 01:43:00.640 --> 01:43:05.199 other and they're naked. I don't know why. And you know, 1956 01:43:05.680 --> 01:43:09.239 the language on the card is Korean or Japanese or 1957 01:43:09.680 --> 01:43:12.720 Vietnamese or whatever, so I can't recognize that language at all. 1958 01:43:12.720 --> 01:43:14.640 I have no idea what they are. I just know 1959 01:43:14.720 --> 01:43:19.479 that these are naked Asian women, you know. So everything 1960 01:43:19.479 --> 01:43:23.279 from that to the collectible card games is available. But anyway, Yeah, 1961 01:43:23.279 --> 01:43:25.640 anybody who has information about that, feel free to share 1962 01:43:25.680 --> 01:43:27.800 it with me, and I will gladly report on it, 1963 01:43:28.359 --> 01:43:31.239 talk about it in hell. Who knows, maybe Frankie could 1964 01:43:31.279 --> 01:43:34.079 start his own little podcast off of it. You know, 1965 01:43:34.199 --> 01:43:37.760 here's my adventures in collecting cards with my dad. I 1966 01:43:37.800 --> 01:43:39.600 don't know. I don't think that's a bad idea. It 1967 01:43:39.640 --> 01:43:42.600 could show you a lot of interesting things and glimpses 1968 01:43:42.640 --> 01:43:46.720 into you know, other Americans and interacting with them. How 1969 01:43:46.760 --> 01:43:50.079 about that good wholesome, clean fun if you ask me. 1970 01:43:50.760 --> 01:43:55.119 But I'm a jerk as usual anyway, I wasted a 1971 01:43:55.119 --> 01:43:57.960 lot of time on this. I'm sorry, Danny, No, I 1972 01:43:57.960 --> 01:43:58.800 don't think you're jerk. 1973 01:43:58.880 --> 01:44:02.239 I think I think that's great. Anything to do with 1974 01:44:01.720 --> 01:44:05.760 your family or child or a young person, you know, 1975 01:44:05.880 --> 01:44:11.199 especially a father's son relationship, that's great. I'm I'm I'm 1976 01:44:11.479 --> 01:44:13.840 I'm happy. I think that's that's not being a jerk, 1977 01:44:14.159 --> 01:44:15.239 it's being a good father. 1978 01:44:16.039 --> 01:44:17.520 I think it's And I also think it's a good 1979 01:44:17.560 --> 01:44:21.479 relatable it's it's a good relatable way to interact right 1980 01:44:21.600 --> 01:44:24.359 where you don't have you know, the problems and who's 1981 01:44:24.359 --> 01:44:27.319 going to socially What social judgment could you actually have 1982 01:44:27.399 --> 01:44:29.960 against me for saying, you know what, I want my 1983 01:44:30.039 --> 01:44:33.279 kid to collect baseball cards. I mean, you know, welcome, 1984 01:44:33.479 --> 01:44:36.840 Welcome back, Beaver's dad, where you've been, right, I mean, 1985 01:44:37.680 --> 01:44:41.199 it's a throwback of everything, you know, and I don't know. 1986 01:44:41.359 --> 01:44:43.920 These were some of the very few and far between 1987 01:44:44.000 --> 01:44:47.840 positive things in our culture. I thought at one time 1988 01:44:47.920 --> 01:44:50.840 you could share something like that with, you know, with 1989 01:44:51.000 --> 01:44:55.399 a mentor adult, a father figure of sorts. And you know, 1990 01:44:55.520 --> 01:44:57.840 some people had dads, and some people had uncles, and 1991 01:44:57.880 --> 01:45:00.920 some people had older brothers. But either way, it was 1992 01:45:00.960 --> 01:45:03.479 a good way of relating to somebody on a mutual 1993 01:45:03.600 --> 01:45:06.720 ground where you had a shared interest. And who knows, 1994 01:45:06.760 --> 01:45:09.359 maybe that grows into us watching I mean, God knows, 1995 01:45:09.399 --> 01:45:12.159 I'm picking out of the air ice hockey together. Maybe 1996 01:45:12.199 --> 01:45:14.880 he gets into hockey because he likes I don't know, 1997 01:45:15.800 --> 01:45:18.359 you know. And I've got into baseball, you know, not 1998 01:45:18.479 --> 01:45:20.399 just because my dad watched a couple of games with 1999 01:45:20.479 --> 01:45:23.800 me when I was very tiny. I have fond memories 2000 01:45:23.800 --> 01:45:25.880 of that, but that only really connects to the fact 2001 01:45:25.880 --> 01:45:28.279 that I ended up with baseball cards and then I 2002 01:45:28.319 --> 01:45:31.239 turned on a TV. And I've told that story several times, 2003 01:45:31.279 --> 01:45:34.199 where you know, I went back and forth on two channels. 2004 01:45:34.239 --> 01:45:37.600 I saw the Mets and the Yankees play, and I 2005 01:45:37.720 --> 01:45:42.239 preferred the Mets because I'm stupid, you know. Well, really 2006 01:45:42.439 --> 01:45:45.119 it's because they didn't have a designated hitter. Now everybody does, 2007 01:45:45.720 --> 01:45:48.159 but they didn't have a designated hitter, and just me 2008 01:45:48.279 --> 01:45:50.359 making sense of the game, I liked that better. I 2009 01:45:50.359 --> 01:45:52.319 thought it had more integrity. So I wanted to watch 2010 01:45:52.319 --> 01:45:55.079 the Mets. And also they had a guy on the 2011 01:45:55.119 --> 01:45:57.800 team with the two l's and an E at the 2012 01:45:57.880 --> 01:45:59.439 end of his name, and I said, hey, look that 2013 01:45:59.439 --> 01:46:03.760 guy's got a Scilian name like mine. And so yeah, 2014 01:46:03.800 --> 01:46:06.399 it was just that simple in a six year old's brain. Sorry, 2015 01:46:07.279 --> 01:46:11.399 but look, it's an Italian. Look it's baseball. It's just 2016 01:46:11.479 --> 01:46:14.880 like the guys on my cards. And you know, so 2017 01:46:15.439 --> 01:46:18.039 I'm still watching the Mets off and on. But I 2018 01:46:18.079 --> 01:46:20.000 watched it for a long long time, all the way 2019 01:46:20.039 --> 01:46:23.159 into the nineties, so, you know, twenty years I spent 2020 01:46:23.560 --> 01:46:27.560 on something because baseball cards and a couple other fragmented 2021 01:46:27.600 --> 01:46:30.039 things that happened, and I think that was probably one 2022 01:46:30.039 --> 01:46:33.479 of the more you know, culturally acceptable things that I 2023 01:46:33.520 --> 01:46:35.560 went through in my childhood. So I don't think it's 2024 01:46:35.600 --> 01:46:37.920 a negative thing at all. I can't find negativity in it, 2025 01:46:38.840 --> 01:46:41.520 you know, except, of course, there's always a corrupt corporation 2026 01:46:41.680 --> 01:46:45.279 trying to you know, whip people and and and suck 2027 01:46:45.319 --> 01:46:47.680 the life out of them through through whatever they can, 2028 01:46:48.239 --> 01:46:50.399 because you know, believe me, there's corruption even in the 2029 01:46:50.479 --> 01:46:54.119 baseball card collecting world. You know, TOPS is kind of 2030 01:46:54.119 --> 01:46:56.880 a really a messed up corporation who takes advantage of 2031 01:46:56.920 --> 01:47:00.520 its customers and screws people out of money and licensing 2032 01:47:00.560 --> 01:47:03.039 and everything else. But you know, if you can put 2033 01:47:03.079 --> 01:47:06.680 that aside and just partake in the activity, eh, not 2034 01:47:06.800 --> 01:47:09.479 so bad, you know what I'm saying, Like, judge me 2035 01:47:09.520 --> 01:47:13.159 for that, go ahead. But anyway, sorry, Danny, again, these 2036 01:47:13.199 --> 01:47:15.880 are my weird thoughts, and that's what happens. 2037 01:47:16.439 --> 01:47:21.079 I think that's great. I have some grand well, my 2038 01:47:21.199 --> 01:47:25.760 son like collecting cards. He liked basketball, football, and when 2039 01:47:25.760 --> 01:47:29.119 I was a child I collected. Man, I'm now really 2040 01:47:29.159 --> 01:47:31.600 tempted to go look for my box my baseball cards 2041 01:47:31.600 --> 01:47:34.520 I got to hit. I get cards from the early seventies, 2042 01:47:34.640 --> 01:47:37.840 you know, you see, I just some of them are 2043 01:47:37.880 --> 01:47:38.760 real valuable. 2044 01:47:39.039 --> 01:47:40.399 Isn't that hilarious? 2045 01:47:41.119 --> 01:47:43.880 Second Christmas basketball cards? 2046 01:47:44.039 --> 01:47:46.359 Danny, let me just pause you for a second, because 2047 01:47:46.960 --> 01:47:50.640 isn't that amazing? I bring this up right, and then 2048 01:47:50.680 --> 01:47:53.800 you have a nostalgic reaction, which I think people have 2049 01:47:53.880 --> 01:47:56.680 to a lot of things. But you have a nostalgic reaction, 2050 01:47:57.239 --> 01:47:59.920 excuse me, And you just connected to what it was 2051 01:48:00.119 --> 01:48:03.000 I was talking about because I vaguely talked about, you know, 2052 01:48:03.119 --> 01:48:05.319 the general sort of story of me getting into it 2053 01:48:05.359 --> 01:48:08.119 as a child. You went back to that. You got 2054 01:48:08.119 --> 01:48:12.560 an emotional response literally okay, to that thing. And this 2055 01:48:12.800 --> 01:48:16.039 is the organic nostalgia, the one that they don't manufacture. 2056 01:48:16.119 --> 01:48:18.840 This is actually just related from one person to another. 2057 01:48:19.079 --> 01:48:21.920 Right probably when we're done with the shows tonight, I'm 2058 01:48:21.960 --> 01:48:25.720 gonna get ads for baseball card companies. But you know, 2059 01:48:26.159 --> 01:48:28.760 my YouTube and whatnot. But the thing is, our brains 2060 01:48:29.680 --> 01:48:31.760 are designed to pick up on this stuff. And look 2061 01:48:31.800 --> 01:48:34.119 what happens. He went through a nicer time in his life. 2062 01:48:34.199 --> 01:48:37.119 He's thinking back to spending time with his kids, and 2063 01:48:37.319 --> 01:48:39.560 he's like, and I'm almost tempted to go ahead and 2064 01:48:39.600 --> 01:48:45.000 physically reconnect with this thing. See there's something to that, 2065 01:48:45.000 --> 01:48:48.479 that physical reconnection with something, or that physical connection to 2066 01:48:48.560 --> 01:48:53.079 an object, which isn't about necessarily material things, but the 2067 01:48:53.119 --> 01:48:58.640 material thing being like a gateway into something that's much larger. 2068 01:48:59.079 --> 01:49:03.920 That emotional response, that mentality that emotional you know time 2069 01:49:04.000 --> 01:49:07.399 period that you know this is literally the lever that 2070 01:49:07.439 --> 01:49:11.640 make America great again works on. It's just that, you know, 2071 01:49:11.880 --> 01:49:14.680 does it work on something that's organic, legitimate or is 2072 01:49:14.720 --> 01:49:18.319 it manufactured and manipulated. That's the question. But what you 2073 01:49:18.359 --> 01:49:20.359 and I just had there this reaction that you have 2074 01:49:20.399 --> 01:49:22.560 where you're like, I'm tempted to go find what I 2075 01:49:22.600 --> 01:49:27.000 still keep as a grown man decades later, I still 2076 01:49:27.039 --> 01:49:29.399 do these things and I'm tempted to go get them 2077 01:49:29.439 --> 01:49:32.920 and reconnect with them physically right now, just based on 2078 01:49:33.000 --> 01:49:36.479 the suggestion through me telling you know, a story. And 2079 01:49:36.520 --> 01:49:38.760 I'm not trying to get you to go reconnect or anything. 2080 01:49:39.720 --> 01:49:41.720 It's just I'm telling a story and you did the 2081 01:49:41.800 --> 01:49:44.760 natural thing and organically connected to it. I just wanted 2082 01:49:44.760 --> 01:49:47.560 to point that out as you're going and please continue. 2083 01:49:47.600 --> 01:49:50.479 You were collecting in the seventies, and I was at 2084 01:49:50.479 --> 01:49:52.319 the tail end of the seventies. Like I said, I'm 2085 01:49:52.359 --> 01:49:55.239 six years old, so that's nineteen seventy eight, and that 2086 01:49:55.319 --> 01:49:57.439 means that I was picking up cards in nineteen seventy 2087 01:49:57.520 --> 01:50:01.159 nine and eighty. That's where my collecting began. And I 2088 01:50:01.199 --> 01:50:03.680 did that all the way through until I became homeless 2089 01:50:03.680 --> 01:50:07.239 in the mid nineties, right, So, I mean, you know 2090 01:50:07.439 --> 01:50:09.920 that's something I maintained for many, many years. I lost 2091 01:50:09.960 --> 01:50:13.039 that collection, uh you know, ex wife and all. And 2092 01:50:13.079 --> 01:50:15.319 then I got another collection that had to be abandoned 2093 01:50:15.359 --> 01:50:18.479 later for similar reasons. But I had two collections that 2094 01:50:18.520 --> 01:50:21.439 I that I painstakingly put together for years and years 2095 01:50:21.960 --> 01:50:24.720 and lost them both. And still I have this urge 2096 01:50:24.720 --> 01:50:27.680 in this idea that I'd like to reconnect to this 2097 01:50:27.760 --> 01:50:32.479 thing that I keep losing, you know. So in this time, 2098 01:50:32.560 --> 01:50:34.520 I think it's even better because I get to do 2099 01:50:34.600 --> 01:50:36.680 it with my son, which I didn't get to do 2100 01:50:36.760 --> 01:50:39.199 with the first son because you know, he didn't really 2101 01:50:39.239 --> 01:50:41.439 grow up in my house or anything. He wasn't right there. 2102 01:50:41.840 --> 01:50:44.079 But this opportunity I'm trying to take with it. And 2103 01:50:44.119 --> 01:50:47.159 you were saying that your son got into card collecting. 2104 01:50:47.199 --> 01:50:48.640 Now did you bring him to it? How did you 2105 01:50:48.680 --> 01:50:48.920 do that? 2106 01:50:50.000 --> 01:50:57.680 Yep? Oh he did, he did it himself. He was 2107 01:50:57.680 --> 01:51:04.159 at Anna mm hmmm. Uh. 2108 01:51:04.239 --> 01:51:05.239 This sucks. 2109 01:51:07.000 --> 01:51:07.439 To the late. 2110 01:51:08.199 --> 01:51:11.520 Yeah, no, this sucks because you're you're you broke up 2111 01:51:11.560 --> 01:51:13.439 all over the place. And now I'm looking at and 2112 01:51:13.520 --> 01:51:15.880 now I'm looking at the damn clock and I'm no, no, no, no, 2113 01:51:16.079 --> 01:51:18.640 it's not your fault. But not only is that you 2114 01:51:18.760 --> 01:51:20.920 breaking up everywhere, But I'm looking at the clock. I're 2115 01:51:20.920 --> 01:51:25.439 almost at a time. Damn. I was too long winded 2116 01:51:25.520 --> 01:51:27.399 and I didn't even go to a break this whole time. 2117 01:51:29.439 --> 01:51:32.439 I suck at this. I really do when I'm not myself. 2118 01:51:33.039 --> 01:51:37.640 I'm sorry everybody. Oh man, look, Danny, I apologize that 2119 01:51:37.720 --> 01:51:39.279 I talk too much when you were on. 2120 01:51:41.159 --> 01:51:42.079 No Worries. 2121 01:51:42.399 --> 01:51:46.680 But look, take this opportunity now before I start talking again. Uh, 2122 01:51:46.840 --> 01:51:49.159 to give yourself a final word here, because I got 2123 01:51:49.279 --> 01:51:51.359 aaron to start up in only a few minutes here 2124 01:51:51.439 --> 01:51:54.600 on ocelly dot com radio. So please take your time 2125 01:51:54.680 --> 01:51:56.399 to do a final sweep if you will. 2126 01:51:58.960 --> 01:52:01.920 No, yeah, let me let me hopefully I'm not breaking up. 2127 01:52:01.960 --> 01:52:05.760 But here's the deal. I mean, the baseball and baseball 2128 01:52:05.840 --> 01:52:09.359 cards go back to me, you know, in the sixties, 2129 01:52:09.399 --> 01:52:12.079 because I remember being six years old, I wanted to 2130 01:52:12.199 --> 01:52:15.159 go play my first baseball game and my father, I 2131 01:52:15.199 --> 01:52:18.079 remember he got tickets. It was Days versus the Oriyals 2132 01:52:18.199 --> 01:52:22.560 or Worlds and were the world champions. My father gave 2133 01:52:22.680 --> 01:52:25.000 up those tickets to go watch me play baseball. My 2134 01:52:25.119 --> 01:52:27.960 grandfather bought me my first SMIT when I was six 2135 01:52:28.079 --> 01:52:30.720 years old. We shared the same birthday, and I started 2136 01:52:30.760 --> 01:52:34.560 collecting cards in the seventies just because other kids are 2137 01:52:34.680 --> 01:52:37.439 doing it, and always that a connection to baseball, and 2138 01:52:37.680 --> 01:52:42.079 my son got into My grandkids are into cards. One 2139 01:52:42.199 --> 01:52:46.199 ers into Pokemon, when is into basketball cards. And I 2140 01:52:46.359 --> 01:52:48.760 still hold on to an old collection that I put 2141 01:52:48.800 --> 01:52:50.600 away and I don't see for a decade or once 2142 01:52:50.640 --> 01:52:53.720 in a while hold out and look at it. So 2143 01:52:53.840 --> 01:52:56.000 I think that's great. I think that's a good thing 2144 01:52:56.079 --> 01:52:58.279 to ball with your father. And you know, my favorite 2145 01:52:58.279 --> 01:53:01.359 all time movies The Field of Dreams, and I'm always 2146 01:53:01.479 --> 01:53:04.319 going to be ball like a baby when he's at 2147 01:53:04.319 --> 01:53:05.840 the end of the movie when he's playing catch. 2148 01:53:05.920 --> 01:53:06.560 What's his dad? 2149 01:53:08.079 --> 01:53:08.239 Right? 2150 01:53:08.600 --> 01:53:11.359 Right? No, that's and that's an amazing thing. It's one 2151 01:53:11.399 --> 01:53:14.960 of these things that we could retain as positivity right 2152 01:53:16.279 --> 01:53:19.039 from this cultural mess that we were talking about earlier 2153 01:53:20.119 --> 01:53:23.520 and the degradation or downgrading of American culture. We could 2154 01:53:24.159 --> 01:53:26.600 gather up some of those good, old original pieces that 2155 01:53:26.680 --> 01:53:31.960 weren't so bad. You know, it's just a possibility. Anyways, 2156 01:53:32.880 --> 01:53:35.039 be Pete, anything you want to throw in before we're 2157 01:53:35.039 --> 01:53:37.319 all done here, because The Age of Transitions begins at 2158 01:53:37.359 --> 01:53:41.319 ten pm Eastern on Ocelli Radio Live. So up to 2159 01:53:41.399 --> 01:53:52.159 you be Pete with the delay, can you hear me? 2160 01:53:52.600 --> 01:53:52.720 Uh? 2161 01:53:52.920 --> 01:53:58.960 Be Pete. You weren't hearing me? Were you? Okay? Well 2162 01:53:59.079 --> 01:54:01.199 be Pete if you know on hearing anything at all. Yeah, 2163 01:54:01.279 --> 01:54:02.960 if you got a final word you want to throw 2164 01:54:03.039 --> 01:54:05.520 in because the Age of Transitions begins at ten pm 2165 01:54:05.600 --> 01:54:08.159 Eastern on Ocelli Radio. We got to figure out this 2166 01:54:08.279 --> 01:54:10.039 delay issue with you, but I want to give you 2167 01:54:10.079 --> 01:54:12.279 a final word because we're done pretty much. 2168 01:54:12.359 --> 01:54:21.560 So go ahead, well see everybody now next week. God 2169 01:54:21.600 --> 01:54:24.439 Oltchelli dot com. Hit the donate button, go sport your 2170 01:54:24.479 --> 01:54:27.439 local food bank. People are still having issues out there. 2171 01:54:28.079 --> 01:54:29.560 Other than that, we'll see you next week. 2172 01:54:30.079 --> 01:54:32.439 And I do appreciate any and all support that does 2173 01:54:32.520 --> 01:54:34.600 come in. Appreciate that if you hit the donate button 2174 01:54:34.600 --> 01:54:36.920 Atocelli dot Com, it'll go right into use. It's not 2175 01:54:37.159 --> 01:54:39.800 like I don't need everything every day at this point, 2176 01:54:40.880 --> 01:54:42.560 and I'm not having a good time at home, but 2177 01:54:42.600 --> 01:54:47.039 I'm keeping my comments to myself. But some days I'm sorry. 2178 01:54:47.079 --> 01:54:48.760 I haven't been able to get to the microphone, and 2179 01:54:48.800 --> 01:54:50.560 I'm hoping to change that. As we get into the 2180 01:54:50.600 --> 01:54:52.720 new year, which, by the way, we're going to have 2181 01:54:52.800 --> 01:54:55.720 that New Year's Special broadcast four hours long coming up 2182 01:54:55.760 --> 01:54:58.359 this week on the thirty first, the best I know 2183 01:54:58.600 --> 01:55:02.279 with Uncle's New Year's Evolution. So I hope everybody calls in, 2184 01:55:02.479 --> 01:55:05.359 joins in, and does all that. Appreciate you guys up 2185 01:55:05.399 --> 01:55:08.479 to this point with my last minute here, and I'm 2186 01:55:08.520 --> 01:55:10.760 sorry that we you know, I over talked here. I 2187 01:55:10.840 --> 01:55:13.960 didn't intend to, but we covered a lot of ground, actually, 2188 01:55:14.000 --> 01:55:15.880 and I'm glad that Danny called in at least, and 2189 01:55:16.399 --> 01:55:18.800 hopefully more of you will join us in the near future, 2190 01:55:18.840 --> 01:55:20.439 because that's what makes it interesting. 2191 01:55:21.159 --> 01:55:21.199 But