Speaker 1: Beg you, ladies and gentlemen, for checking out going deeper.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Matt, and I've got a great show
Speaker 1: planned for you tonight. You'll know my next guests. Well,
Speaker 1: you'll know my next guest from her appearances on such
Speaker 1: websites as badmilfs dot com and milf dot com. But
Speaker 1: she's also the co host of the Just Cruise and
Speaker 1: podcast with her husband and fellow performer. I don't know
Speaker 1: you that well, yes, but that's what we hope to do.
Speaker 1: Get to know you and fellow performer JR. Cruz. You
Speaker 1: can find links to all of our social media in
Speaker 1: the episode description or at Jasmin cruzexxx dot com. But
Speaker 1: I also really want to recommend you go and check
Speaker 1: out our only fans at Jasmin Cruse Fans. Like I said,
Speaker 1: links to everything in the episode description. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: join me in welcoming the spectacular Jasmine Cruz and the
Speaker 1: handsome I don't have a lot of adjectives for men
Speaker 1: on this one, very good looking.
Speaker 2: Or arming.
Speaker 1: How are you folks doing tonight?
Speaker 3: We're doing wonderful as a Matjack.
Speaker 1: That's good. That's good to hear. Can you guys take
Speaker 1: me whether it's separate or together, through your journey entering
Speaker 1: into the adult enter any form of it, whether it's camming, stripping.
Speaker 1: When was the first time either of you, both of you,
Speaker 1: both of you at the same time, decided like, this
Speaker 1: is it. We're gonna make this jump, this is this
Speaker 1: is what we want to do. We're willing to put
Speaker 1: ourselves out there and you know, let the chips fall
Speaker 1: where they may.
Speaker 4: So you want me to do it first and all
Speaker 4: just time in after, Okay.
Speaker 5: So basically it all started while I was stationed in
Speaker 5: Korea and one of my soldiers had UH that we
Speaker 5: become friends with, had mentioned that she reminded her. She
Speaker 5: reminded her of us a Kira, and somehow we started
Speaker 5: talking about getting into the adult industry.
Speaker 4: She enjoyed it.
Speaker 5: We'd been in the lifestyle for almost a decade at
Speaker 5: that time, so it was like and she was starting
Speaker 5: to do some modeling and everything, and she introduced us
Speaker 5: to a friend who kind of helped get us started
Speaker 5: UH setting up her only fans and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: Flashed forward a couple of years. We moved to Georgia,
Speaker 5: we started meeting other folks and UH getting her bookings
Speaker 5: with different with Jesus, I can't talk today.
Speaker 2: Apparently started getting.
Speaker 5: Her some different bookings with modeling, more adult themes, modeling.
Speaker 5: Uh and then uh what it was? Laura Cross was
Speaker 5: one of the first girls that you shot at lower Cross.
Speaker 1: Yes, so, okay, I gotta take five steps back. Military
Speaker 1: what branch army twenty years my former co host who
Speaker 1: left this show, not on bad terms, just because he
Speaker 1: wanted more time with his family. We still do a
Speaker 1: comedy show together. He was where'd he go? Afghanistan? He
Speaker 1: was a marine. The ironic thing too, the strange turn
Speaker 1: of events here is Jasmin Chaiusk what nationality? You are?
Speaker 3: A Filipino?
Speaker 1: That is my co host's wife, Kiki Filipina. You can
Speaker 1: find her showing she's also a performer. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: military beautiful Filipino women. That's a trend I've heard for
Speaker 1: the last fifteen years from my friend. Yes, so okay,
Speaker 1: all right, thank you for your service. I was a pussy.
Speaker 1: I went to college. But what I will say not
Speaker 1: college community college. I should have said that. Yeah, close enough, Jasmine,
Speaker 1: what's the first Like, okay, let's take it even more
Speaker 1: steps back. So you guys were already in the lifestyle
Speaker 1: at the time you were swinging you were now at
Speaker 1: that time, what kind of like limitations or things did
Speaker 1: you have Did you have boundaries within your relationship like
Speaker 1: this is totally fine, but this JR. Is not cool
Speaker 1: with it?
Speaker 3: Or I would say, actually JR. Is pretty much supportive
Speaker 3: and anything I do, he always encouraged it. And I
Speaker 3: first started out when I started off Girl Girl and
Speaker 3: toys first, and he helped me work on the toy
Speaker 3: part because there were so many out there and he
Speaker 3: had to help, you know, experiment how to use them.
Speaker 3: So what better way to use the toys on me?
Speaker 3: And then after a while he just said, I'm You're
Speaker 3: free to do what you like, but also be comfortable
Speaker 3: what you like. So I really didn't go right to
Speaker 3: boy Girl yet. I did Girl Girl first and toys
Speaker 3: and then after that him, you know, it was more
Speaker 3: of a I wasn't ready to have like a full
Speaker 3: swap yet, as they said, it was more of a
Speaker 3: you know, well join maybe one person in the equations
Speaker 3: what stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But let me pull your story. You weren't you weren't
Speaker 1: open to a full swap yet. Now was that just?
Speaker 1: Why was that? Was there was there any kind of
Speaker 1: jealousy or was it fear that you might be jealous afterwards?
Speaker 1: Or were you I was just gonna say, were you
Speaker 1: scared of being with another guy in that instance, or like, it's.
Speaker 3: Just I just had jealousy issues. I'm over it now
Speaker 3: when I look back, it was it was stupid.
Speaker 5: So the whole thing kind of started because I needed
Speaker 5: to actually get sleep.
Speaker 4: And this girl wanted sex like four or five six times.
Speaker 1: A day, crying for you, jay or it's the same,
Speaker 1: you know, Oh, like I'm looking at her and you're saying,
Speaker 1: this beautiful woman wants sex all the time. What am I?
Speaker 1: What am I gonna do? I'm not tearing though, but
Speaker 1: continue your story.
Speaker 5: Got invite some friends to kind of step in, tag
Speaker 5: tag in and you know, let me take a nap sometimes.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you don't have any kind of jealous any
Speaker 1: any of that aspect, You're just like okay, And I
Speaker 1: would assume I don't know because my wife and I
Speaker 1: have been with I'm thirty six now, I've been with
Speaker 1: my wife since I was nineteen actually, and we've never
Speaker 1: never even really considered that because fear, not even the
Speaker 1: real jealousy, just the fear of jealousy or fear of
Speaker 1: anxiety or for both of us, you know, if I'm
Speaker 1: enjoying it, who knows, maybe so it's never been a discussion.
Speaker 1: But you don't have any of that, then it seems
Speaker 1: like we're to an extent obviously.
Speaker 5: Right now, I mean, like our only our only boundary
Speaker 5: is that you know, don't hide it from me. Sure,
Speaker 5: sure you know that's the only kind of really form
Speaker 5: of cheating in our definition of the lifestyle is if
Speaker 5: we were to hide it from one another.
Speaker 1: So now again, oh sorry, I apologize, Go ahead continue.
Speaker 5: No, no, it's it's can deal at all. But so
Speaker 5: one of those things that I know was her was
Speaker 5: a similar thing like well you know what if he
Speaker 5: enjoys it more with the other girl or something like that.
Speaker 5: And you know what I explained to her was that, like, look,
Speaker 5: everything else is fun, but like with you, you're the
Speaker 5: only one that I'm ever gonna be with. So anything benefit,
Speaker 5: anything that someone else, say does really well, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: share that with her. And she's gonna share something, you know,
Speaker 5: stuff that another guy does well for her, and it's
Speaker 5: just gonna make us better in the sack. Sure, it's
Speaker 5: just gonna in the in the long run, it's just
Speaker 5: gonna make us that much better at doing.
Speaker 2: What we do well.
Speaker 1: It's funny that, I mean, I assume maybe, no, not
Speaker 1: a lot. I don't know how to word this the
Speaker 1: right way, but swinger is the perfect setup for this
Speaker 1: to me, be it to go into the adult entertainment
Speaker 1: industry only because it's it's you have have to learn
Speaker 1: to separate the emotional from the physical. Look, this is
Speaker 1: my fucking job. I'm gonna go have sex and this
Speaker 1: and that, and it should be passionate and it should
Speaker 1: feel good, and it should whatever. But like, Jasmine, who's
Speaker 1: the only person you want to come home and watch
Speaker 1: a movie on the couch with this guy there? And
Speaker 1: guy one of them? One of them? But that's kind
Speaker 1: of the point, you know, And I think that's what
Speaker 1: people not don't understand but maybe can't grasp because again,
Speaker 1: as a jealous I've never thought and even though I
Speaker 1: do this podcast and everything else, I've never been like, oh,
Speaker 1: we should think about being swingers. But that's just me
Speaker 1: because I have such a deep connection. I don't have
Speaker 1: that ability to separate that. Jasmine, did you always have
Speaker 1: that ability to? I guess you didn't always have that ability.
Speaker 1: What made you come around to having that ability to
Speaker 1: separate those two things?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think with experience. I think when j R.
Speaker 3: Gave me opportunity to say, let's try it out, and
Speaker 3: the first thing he said is like, you don't have
Speaker 3: to do it as soon as we meet someone and
Speaker 3: you know you can get comfortable with that person. And
Speaker 3: then with him saying that, I guess that didn't happen.
Speaker 3: We actually did have our swinging experience with someone we
Speaker 3: just met, which doesn't usually happen. But I guess it's
Speaker 3: surprised to him. I guess the vibe was great. They
Speaker 3: talked about books. I'm an intellectual type, so something about
Speaker 3: turns me on. If someone talks about maybe algorithms or
Speaker 3: delimitative it's just something to me.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I guess it gets me allterned about formulas and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Last book I read with Charlotte's Web in about
Speaker 1: third grade.
Speaker 3: J R.
Speaker 1: Well, my wife always does say I'm some pig anyway, uh,
Speaker 1: j or shit, I just love I just lost my question.
Speaker 1: It was piggybacking off of that. But oh, in terms
Speaker 1: of just the relationship itself, Are you also like a
Speaker 1: book smart, like intelligent, like algorithm driven guy, or is
Speaker 1: it your opposites that kind of make the puzzle pieces?
Speaker 1: You look like you're built. You look like you hit
Speaker 1: the gym a lot.
Speaker 2: I used to a lot more than I do now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I say the same thing too. There's one gym
Speaker 1: body on this call, and I understand who Okay, fair enough,
Speaker 1: fair enough.
Speaker 5: So I am I'm a bit of an intellectual. But
Speaker 5: it's not from say, like you know, going to college
Speaker 5: and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: It's just I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 5: Very compositive and I love I love learning about things
Speaker 5: about what makes people tick. So I'll look and I'll
Speaker 5: research and I'll go through rabbit holes figuring out stuff
Speaker 5: just to kind of because I want that big with
Speaker 5: more driven from my ability to from my desire to
Speaker 5: talk to people.
Speaker 1: Are you big w Kipedia guy?
Speaker 5: Not?
Speaker 2: I try to Wikipedia just A'll fall.
Speaker 1: Down holes for hours on Wikipedia. I start on like,
Speaker 1: you know, the first episode of Deadwood, and somehow I
Speaker 1: end on German on Arcs and I'm just like.
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 1: How I get there? But there was some connection? Okay,
Speaker 1: So you guys, you guys have similar personalities and so
Speaker 1: that makes it a little bit easier. Let's talk about content. Okay,
Speaker 1: So the first time you were reached out to to
Speaker 1: shoot like a mainstream shoot, Jasmine, do you remember who
Speaker 1: that was?
Speaker 3: Maybe not like a professional production.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, the first time when you were really when
Speaker 1: when when they reach out to you and they're like,
Speaker 1: one show on the big show, this is the major leagues.
Speaker 1: You've been doing great work, but we want you in
Speaker 1: the major leagues.
Speaker 3: Well, I would say it was Blaze Studios was my
Speaker 3: first Yeah, yeah, production that was professional. Mark Blaze is amazing.
Speaker 3: When I first worked with him, I told him it's
Speaker 3: my first time to do a milking table, first time
Speaker 3: for a gang Bang.
Speaker 2: So Gang Bang was was later it.
Speaker 3: Was later on. But other than that, that's another story.
Speaker 3: That's another story. But and then I had to to
Speaker 3: rate Dicks. I think he has that video hidden. But
Speaker 3: when he said literally to rate Dicks, I was I
Speaker 3: actually looked very very bored because I don't know. I
Speaker 3: think the one that pops in my head when he
Speaker 3: goes so from a scale from one to five, what
Speaker 3: would or one to ten? Whatever? He said, one to five,
Speaker 3: what would you rate it? And I'm sitting here like, well,
Speaker 3: a zero because I didn't see any comb I was like,
Speaker 3: so a one to five still A zero did nothing
Speaker 3: for me, And I'm thinking there was no emotional emotion.
Speaker 3: I was still I sat there. I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I didn't know that emotion. I don't know what decorating
Speaker 3: was like.
Speaker 2: So it was like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was one of the It was about her
Speaker 5: watching these like jerk off videos and then.
Speaker 1: Reactually actually was it at a table the jerk the
Speaker 1: guys drinking on a table.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I didn't actually see the video.
Speaker 1: May have actually seen this series, I apologize. It popped
Speaker 1: in my head. Was it like kind of like yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I think he was like he's sitting.
Speaker 3: On it so funny, he's dragging himself off and like
Speaker 3: make okay.
Speaker 2: I may have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I apologize.
Speaker 3: Watching a low budget like film, it's the most Yeah.
Speaker 5: So it was so she was one of the things
Speaker 5: was just she was supposed to watch these four or
Speaker 5: five different videos and then rate them, and so at
Speaker 5: first it was so it was a reaction video and
Speaker 5: so he's like, all right, we're just.
Speaker 2: Gonna hit play and uh and we'll go from there.
Speaker 5: And so he hits play and she's just kind of
Speaker 5: sitting there just looking at the screen, just like irritated
Speaker 5: that she's got to watch this or something.
Speaker 4: And then and then Margo's okay cut. So Jasmine, do
Speaker 4: you uh the key to AH reaction video is to.
Speaker 2: React like ah.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll say something and I'll look at the person
Speaker 1: I'm interviewing and I go to zoom freeze what is
Speaker 1: why are they not moving? And they're just like no,
Speaker 1: I'm just like saying the next thing.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, it's a clause for dramatic effect.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sure, some of these pauses are a little long, I
Speaker 1: told yeah, yeah, yeah. So you know what's funny though,
Speaker 1: and what's so great about porn is you could have
Speaker 1: just obviously it doesn't fit your brand, but I mean
Speaker 1: I cut that one clip out where you're like zero,
Speaker 1: and that's a good small penis humiliation video. Right. Maybe,
Speaker 1: So again, maybe it's not the brand, but I'm just
Speaker 1: thinking of if you were an individual shooting something like
Speaker 1: this and it didn't turn out the way you wanted to,
Speaker 1: could you just rebrand it in another way? So, Jasmine,
Speaker 1: you say you like talking about the algorithms and this
Speaker 1: and that and intelligent like smart people text stuff. Yes,
Speaker 1: what is the best way for new girls to get
Speaker 1: recognized in the industry?
Speaker 3: I would say for me, would be setting up their
Speaker 3: own platforms, going to these porn conventions, networking, networking with
Speaker 3: people like us to give them some guidance on how
Speaker 3: to how we started with our social media, getting introduced
Speaker 3: to the right people and start that way. Because when
Speaker 3: we started, we didn't really have much direction. Nobody we
Speaker 3: knew at the time didn't tell us, Hey, set these
Speaker 3: platforms up, this is what you got to do, go
Speaker 3: to these conventions. We were just totally lost. But right now,
Speaker 3: that's the point of our podcast is to mentor other
Speaker 3: you know, new performers, give them part of it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: to give them the right direction where to go to,
Speaker 3: what are good and safe ways to practice, you know,
Speaker 3: getting tested at the right times, going to the right
Speaker 3: testing centers, testing within that week when you do content,
Speaker 3: and just safety practices. Because right now, I don't think
Speaker 3: a lot enough is said. So that's why podcasts like
Speaker 3: us will help others give them the right you know awareness.
Speaker 1: Well, when you're done listening to the Just Cruising podcast,
Speaker 1: you can also check out my side podcast, which you
Speaker 1: might find interesting. I call it brand new faces. And
Speaker 1: what I do is I reach out to girls who
Speaker 1: show they have some form of work ethic, meaning they
Speaker 1: are consistently posting. I don't wanna, like, you know, hitch
Speaker 1: my wag into somebody who is gonna quit in two weeks, right,
Speaker 1: But I do interviews with newer girls and try and
Speaker 1: give them like an audience or some form of an audience.
Speaker 1: But that's such an important thing. I talk about, even
Speaker 1: something as basic as a link tree. So many new
Speaker 1: girls have no idea how powerful even just something where
Speaker 1: everything is concentrated can be, you know. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna do something at the end about new performers
Speaker 1: that maybe you'll like. But I really enjoy hearing that
Speaker 1: because because so many times I've interviewed like strippers, and
Speaker 1: when you hear the behind the scenes at a strip club,
Speaker 1: it's either it's it's two percent of the time very
Speaker 1: very sweet and everybody's collaborative and everyone helps, and then
Speaker 1: the other ninety eight percent of the time it's fucking
Speaker 1: mad max and you're like making sure you don't get
Speaker 1: scalped in the back room. The interviews I've done at
Speaker 1: least Okay, So it's nice that the pin community to
Speaker 1: some extent is collaborative in not just scenes and work
Speaker 1: like that, but help too, right, Like were you given
Speaker 1: help by other people? Not a lot of help, but
Speaker 1: like advice or mentorship or anything like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Daisy Fox and mister j He Actually
Speaker 3: they researched my Twitter or ex what's called, and they're like,
Speaker 3: this is not your personality. Why is it so stiff?
Speaker 3: We saw you at your stripper Your personality is like
Speaker 3: a explosion of energy. And then we see you in
Speaker 3: the Twitter going like this, like in your photos like that,
Speaker 3: oh your tongue out, show that energy. And it went
Speaker 3: from a few hundreds to now I'm over like twenty
Speaker 3: twenty twenty k followers. Yeah, yeah, years to like build
Speaker 3: it up because I didn't know where to go.
Speaker 5: But you know, and also are some of our friends
Speaker 5: who we knew from the swinger community. There's also been
Speaker 5: tremendous help as well. And Naomi Fox.
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is for the Fox at
Speaker 3: the last name. It's always been hell a date Fox.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, Naomi Fox.
Speaker 2: Nami Banks is a totally different girl.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I thought I said Fox.
Speaker 4: You said Fox and then you said Banks at the end,
Speaker 4: which is weird.
Speaker 1: But anyhow, I have no idea, I say, and forgot
Speaker 1: I said it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but no, like it's because people have
Speaker 5: been so helpful for us when we were getting started.
Speaker 5: We want to pay it forward, you know, and help
Speaker 5: others and and different stuff like safety and things like
Speaker 5: we have. We have a team dynamic, which is which
Speaker 5: is good and good for her. So you know, whenever
Speaker 5: she's going to say a new shoot or shoot with
Speaker 5: somebody new, I'll be there as well. If I'm not
Speaker 5: running camera, I'll at least show up. I'll get the
Speaker 5: paperwork stuff done, and then I'll move on to wherever
Speaker 5: I'm supposed to go and I'll pick her up when
Speaker 5: she's done. But just little things like that can be
Speaker 5: a deterrent to potential predators out there because there's still
Speaker 5: a lot in the industry and safety is a huge
Speaker 5: thing and so we really especially these these younger, newer models,
Speaker 5: you want to make sure that they're safe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, safety is my biggest thing too. When it comes
Speaker 1: to things like you'll be published online forever this and that,
Speaker 1: that's a decision you have to make, and you know
Speaker 1: you should make that wisely and use your brain if
Speaker 1: that's what you want to do. But as far as
Speaker 1: the safety aspect, the newer girls who don't get paid
Speaker 1: or get jerked around for their content or oh, I'll
Speaker 1: send it to you next month, blah blah blah ahll
Speaker 1: that bullshit that's got to be out like that's predatory.
Speaker 1: That's not even that's below like sleazy business man. That's
Speaker 1: like scumbag stuff.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: I heard earlier there's an interesting story about a gang bang. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so let me ask was this the first? Was this
Speaker 1: the first on camera gang bang you had done?
Speaker 3: This is my second line?
Speaker 2: No, that was your first?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 3: Oh the one I just did? Yea, it was my
Speaker 3: first one?
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, that was your first one? Okay, nothing, you
Speaker 1: never had anything like that in the swinger community or
Speaker 1: just not like a fool on Okay, did you ever
Speaker 1: any any two guys and you?
Speaker 5: Oh before my husband, Well, we've had we've had we've
Speaker 5: had some after so that's another dude. Yes, oh no,
Speaker 5: it's not new, but it was h It was funny
Speaker 5: because we I talked to Mark about it and since
Speaker 5: she was going to be traveling and I was gonna
Speaker 5: be back home for Valentine's Day.
Speaker 4: That was what we decided to name it as a theme.
Speaker 4: It was gang Bang for my Valentine.
Speaker 2: Cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, any anxiety going into that jasmine or had you
Speaker 1: done oh? Okay, okay, so you said you had had
Speaker 1: it prior in your life? A gang bang going into this?
Speaker 1: What's different? Just you're going to be on camera?
Speaker 3: I guess though different is on camera and I'm actually
Speaker 3: with professionals. So it was Peter fitzwal, Johnny Cartel, Dominic Flint,
Speaker 3: who's been in the industry for years. But I knew
Speaker 3: that when I was getting into this, how big of
Speaker 3: a crazy goof We're all goofy silly. So I think
Speaker 3: Mark Place had to keep cutting it because we made
Speaker 3: like jokes here and there, laughed a lot, and he goes, okay,
Speaker 3: this is a gang bang. We got to be like,
Speaker 3: you know, getting sexually ready, and here we are talking about,
Speaker 3: you know, ThunderCats. You know, let's go off of the team.
Speaker 3: We're like, all right, simmer down. But at the same
Speaker 3: time we're having a good time. And it made me
Speaker 3: nervous because to live up to the expectations of professionalism.
Speaker 3: I want to be just as great as them. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm looking at to them as a really successful professionals
Speaker 3: and I want to live up to that standard. But
Speaker 3: you know, me that loves sex, I think it went
Speaker 3: really great, so so.
Speaker 1: So going into it. It's not an obviously it's not
Speaker 1: a concern about safety. But it's not a concern about
Speaker 1: safety or even the professional of lism of the guys
Speaker 1: you're working with, because you know they're all professionals.
Speaker 3: Them and I met them.
Speaker 1: It's more your own anxiety of reaching up to that
Speaker 1: level of working with that that sounded.
Speaker 3: Like making it perfect for the video and for them,
Speaker 3: because they're the ones that really putting, you know, their
Speaker 3: hard work into it.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so. Can you guys
Speaker 1: take me?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: This is an interesting question? Maybe I don't know. Can
Speaker 1: you take me into your own content that you shoot?
Speaker 1: Now there was fuck, there's I apologize. I just lost
Speaker 1: my question again. It has been a long fucking week. No,
Speaker 1: I know what it is. Sorry, the content you shoot?
Speaker 1: Is it more fun and goofy like you were doing
Speaker 1: to get yelled at by Mark? I mean, do you
Speaker 1: ever put your own personality into stuff like that? Or
Speaker 1: have you guys tightened it up and been like, well,
Speaker 1: since we've been in this industry more we understand it
Speaker 1: needs to or you'd like it to have some little
Speaker 1: tighter level of professionalism.
Speaker 3: I think it's it's a combination of both, for sure.
Speaker 3: I think we like to make it organic but utilize
Speaker 3: our own creativity. I think that's one thing. He produces
Speaker 3: a lot of the content I make. We work together,
Speaker 3: put our brains together, and sometimes I create his scenario
Speaker 3: so we actually build upon it. He told me to
Speaker 3: write down my notes because I have so many in
Speaker 3: my head in my cell phone, and we just put
Speaker 3: it to reality. We're like, okay, that's my can happen.
Speaker 3: I like this doctor hot wife scene. I like this
Speaker 3: you know, nerdy butt scene or whatever, fuck my husband
Speaker 3: while I watch scene, because that's the series we do,
Speaker 3: and how it's just a lot of people that we've
Speaker 3: brought into collab with. They really like it. They're like,
Speaker 3: when do we get to go in that scene of
Speaker 3: doctor Hawae fuck my husband while I watch scene. You know,
Speaker 3: it's more of a they get to utilize their character.
Speaker 3: We want their character, we want their personality to show.
Speaker 3: I mean, we may have a few lines here and there,
Speaker 3: but we improve it to make it fun for all everyone.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we basically it's almost like its structured chaos
Speaker 5: is probably about the best way to label it.
Speaker 2: So, like, we came up with.
Speaker 5: The Doctor Hot Wife series, which a lot of it
Speaker 5: are elements of who she actually is.
Speaker 3: In real life. In real life, I'm a sexual addiction therapist.
Speaker 2: In real life.
Speaker 1: That's like you certified. Oh okay, now that can be.
Speaker 3: A pervy version.
Speaker 4: She doesn't having PhD. She takes PhD.
Speaker 1: Yes, sure, pretty hard or pretty huge, a little bit
Speaker 1: of bull okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2: But no.
Speaker 5: So basically, like so we came up with this character
Speaker 5: Doctor Hot Wife, and that was how we kind of
Speaker 5: built that around. So she would have different patients, couple singles.
Speaker 5: Eventually we're gonna starting with some group therapy, but just
Speaker 5: all kind of centralized around the whole doctor Hot Wife thing.
Speaker 2: So starts off with just.
Speaker 5: Doing a little bit of a talking and dialogue and
Speaker 5: then they move into the treatment room, which is where
Speaker 5: all the fun starts. So and they're just so the
Speaker 5: doctor stuff is camp being funny and you know, okay
Speaker 5: a little bit.
Speaker 1: I would say most porn sines are a percentage campy
Speaker 1: if there's if it's not like a Gonza scene, like
Speaker 1: I look at Johnny Sin's like, you're not a doctor
Speaker 1: and a lawyer. That's bullshit. So a little bit like,
Speaker 1: do you guys have a history at all in production
Speaker 1: or was this totally fucking new for you guys jumping
Speaker 1: into all this.
Speaker 3: Totally totally new? I think from from what we've seen
Speaker 3: we've worked with Ray Ray and her husband. Her husband produces.
Speaker 3: They do creative like stuff too with their minds and
Speaker 3: write down their own stuff. And I'm like, jare I
Speaker 3: think we could do that too. We've pretty much like
Speaker 3: creative you know, narratives ourselves and make it goofy fun,
Speaker 3: but yet you know, very professional. We could mix it
Speaker 3: all up.
Speaker 5: So they were kind of the inspiration for how we
Speaker 5: built our production stuff. You know, like we're not as
Speaker 5: stringent as them, yet we're not we're not even close
Speaker 5: to their level as far as like no production quality.
Speaker 5: Like I mean, they're lighting, they're lighting their their cameras.
Speaker 5: We're still on cell phone and some tamud freaking lights.
Speaker 1: Well you know what you know what that content? Okay,
Speaker 1: First off, one, I have an interview with Ray Ray
Speaker 1: next week, so I will be sure to mention all
Speaker 1: the glowing reviews you gave before I check it out beforehand.
Speaker 1: Just friends help, Okay, never mind, I thought maybe it
Speaker 1: was a loose connection. I was going to try and
Speaker 1: bond it a little closer, Like my god, did they
Speaker 1: just babble about how great you were for hours?
Speaker 4: But we usually stay in Airbnb with them.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's very cool. That's cool to have friends. Okay,
Speaker 1: So before the production question, has there ever been a crossover?
Speaker 5: So we shot for them. She's done a couple of
Speaker 5: I was an extra. We were an extra in one
Speaker 5: of their scenes, and then we did uh in Chicago.
Speaker 5: We did a fun one that was pretty silly but fun.
Speaker 5: I was a I was a male hooker that they
Speaker 5: pulled out of retirement.
Speaker 2: She was my pimp.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 5: It's started off with a lot of kind of like
Speaker 5: humiliation and ship. They were bullying the hell out of me.
Speaker 5: I'm like, wait, y'all brought me out of retirement for this,
Speaker 5: And of course she was then like, oh you brought
Speaker 5: him out of retirement for this, you know.
Speaker 2: So like they were.
Speaker 5: Mean and she was dommy and just all sorts of
Speaker 5: crazy stuff.
Speaker 2: It was so funny. We had to cut a quite
Speaker 2: a few times because.
Speaker 5: They were giggling or you know, yeah, y ray would
Speaker 5: like slap me or something, and then then she would
Speaker 5: hit me hard and then she's like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: was that okay?
Speaker 2: Are you all right?
Speaker 4: Like I'm like, yeah, you're good, Like I was supposed.
Speaker 5: To cry and command, so I'm crying on command, like
Speaker 5: these aren't real tears.
Speaker 1: I promised you're just a hell of an actor and
Speaker 1: she wasn't recognizing it in the moment, but perhaps she
Speaker 1: does now I understand.
Speaker 5: It was great though, Like there was one part of
Speaker 5: it where it's like she looks at me and she said.
Speaker 2: She goes, you're you're like a sexy Walrus.
Speaker 5: But old and sad, and I'm like, but still's but
Speaker 5: still sexy and she's like no, And so then she
Speaker 5: grabs him by the face and she's like, make a
Speaker 5: Walris sound.
Speaker 2: I was like what.
Speaker 5: And then Rayd grabs me by the throat, gets this
Speaker 5: close and it's like do it, and so I'm like, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then I immediately was like, what fucking sound
Speaker 1: do Walrus is made? Here?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: But then he pulled it out. Improv skills absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean it was super fun.
Speaker 5: And then you know they that was their personal, their
Speaker 5: personal fucked away for the next rest of the scene.
Speaker 1: Terrible, terrible track. Uh tell me about your guys podcast?
Speaker 1: The Just Cruising podcast links obviously in the episode description
Speaker 1: we talked about a little with a segment. There's a
Speaker 1: segment of it about giving advice and people. What's the
Speaker 1: full thing of it though.
Speaker 2: So part of it. It all started with us.
Speaker 5: We drive basically everywhere, like I don't like flying, and
Speaker 5: if I do fly, like I've got to fly first
Speaker 5: class or I'll just drive. I get more room, I
Speaker 5: don't have to deal with weight restrictions, and it's it's fun.
Speaker 2: We just talk and shit like that.
Speaker 5: And so for a while we're like, oh, this should
Speaker 5: be on a podcast, and you know, it kind of
Speaker 5: slowly built on from there and it's like kind of
Speaker 5: one of the major things that we that we try
Speaker 5: to do is we cultivate a and a safe a
Speaker 5: safe space for others to share parts of themselves and
Speaker 5: be their authentic selves, you know, where they can kind
Speaker 5: of get it, where the fans can kind of get
Speaker 5: a peek behind the curtain, you know, and learn a
Speaker 5: little bit more about all of us on a personal side,
Speaker 5: because yes, we do a whole bunch of amazing things
Speaker 5: and fun things and sexy things in front of the camera,
Speaker 5: but we're also like parents. We do things like go
Speaker 5: to the grocery store, like, you know, all of these
Speaker 5: just kind of mundane things that the normal people do,
Speaker 5: because we are normal people and we just.
Speaker 1: Yes, and there's that as well, obviously, yes, but so really.
Speaker 5: Just people look at us and see us as like
Speaker 5: these terrible individuals because of what we do, and it's like, well,
Speaker 5: that's just a job. And then we, you know, go
Speaker 5: home and take care of our families and do normal things.
Speaker 1: Wait, you're saying that, you're saying world famous porn starters
Speaker 1: don't go home to an orgy and then wake up
Speaker 1: and then go to set and then also have Okay,
Speaker 1: I just wasn't positive about that.
Speaker 4: Start to burst that ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's why I do my show too. If
Speaker 1: you notice, I haven't had any of those hack questions really, like, Hey, so, Jasmine,
Speaker 1: do you like anal Like is that something you like?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: Honestly, I want to know you as the performer. I
Speaker 1: like talking, truthfully, I like talking the business aspect. I
Speaker 1: like talking What I've been on a real kick lately
Speaker 1: is talking about how great I think it is when
Speaker 1: a stripper. We'll see a guy in a corner, like
Speaker 1: hanging out with his buddies, and then he hits the
Speaker 1: ATM for the third time after he said he wasn't
Speaker 1: going to spend any money. One of my favorite as
Speaker 1: long as it's not his mortgage or his kids, brace'st payment.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite things in the whole world. So
Speaker 1: I like talking about stuff like that. I'm not you
Speaker 1: know whatever, but I do want to talk about your
Speaker 1: your actual content, like shit you have coming up, stuff
Speaker 1: you want to produce, scenes you want to do, people
Speaker 1: you want to work with. Maybe talk me through like
Speaker 1: the next six months, year, two years of your content.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I see this still producing our series, and
Speaker 3: what I want to do is to expand with our podcast,
Speaker 3: get our brand out there, because like we just started
Speaker 3: just a few months ago, got seven published on seven episodes, publishing, Apple,
Speaker 3: car Play, iHeartRadio, and Spotify, so I think people are
Speaker 3: really listening in. I mean, I really want to thank
Speaker 3: av and Media Network, Don DeMarco, all of the people
Speaker 3: PR that probably push our podcast because surprisingly we were
Speaker 3: just interviewing Nikki Huntsman and all of a sudden, oh.
Speaker 5: My gosh, everyone's like manat episode too.
Speaker 3: It was a great episode, and it showcased all our
Speaker 3: personalities and we're all silly, but we want to maintain
Speaker 3: that silly yet you know, we're sophisticated, classy, but we
Speaker 3: could be fun and exciting. I know I'm still an
Speaker 3: exotic answer a case tripping whatever they call it. I
Speaker 3: still do it, but I feel like I want to
Speaker 3: I want to teach some classes maybe like you know
Speaker 3: on my tutorials, I want to do that. I want
Speaker 3: to do reels and do it where people can watch
Speaker 3: me and ask questions, and just we want to be
Speaker 3: at the level maybe in a few years where we'll
Speaker 3: be hiring just like Ray Ray and her husband does
Speaker 3: the talent, will give them guidance and you.
Speaker 5: Know, yeah eventually, yeah, like event The goal is for
Speaker 5: that part is to be able to hire people. We
Speaker 5: keep the content and stuff like that. We're not opposed
Speaker 5: to continue to do collapse as well, but like we
Speaker 5: want to really get our stuff to established us. We
Speaker 5: want to get our production studio actually like more established,
Speaker 5: sure within hopefully within the next year, we want to
Speaker 5: have our mobile podcast, which is hopefully a like a
Speaker 5: motor home. Sure we can road trip from there, have
Speaker 5: couples come along, and then even do some like vlogs
Speaker 5: while we're on a road trip to whatever the event is.
Speaker 1: That's really interesting if you okay, if you keep it
Speaker 1: current events, you have to release it, you know, in
Speaker 1: real time almost Yeah, but if you did a road
Speaker 1: tripping around the US interviewing other they're sex workers, this
Speaker 1: and that, but keep it time relevant, like keep it evergreen,
Speaker 1: meaning you could really release it six months from now
Speaker 1: where two months from now, you guys could do a
Speaker 1: whole series of going to maybe I don't know where,
Speaker 1: I guess I wouldn't.
Speaker 5: Well, Abian and X three would be like kind of
Speaker 5: like the ideal one, sure, you know, because kind of
Speaker 5: going through the Southern States and up to California for
Speaker 5: X three and then come back to Vegas and then
Speaker 5: work our way back from there.
Speaker 4: Would be the ideal.
Speaker 1: I was picturing you guys with unlimited money and time,
Speaker 1: which I guess was unrealistic of me, and going to
Speaker 1: those porn stares who live in like Cleveland and being like,
Speaker 1: look another human being you can see for the first time.
Speaker 1: Let's interview. Yeah yeah, but I was I was picking
Speaker 1: real shitty places for you to go by the way,
Speaker 1: I was gonna be like, so the stuff in Iowa
Speaker 1: for a while.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Wanton, Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. There are content creators in these places though,
Speaker 1: which is so crazy. I interviewed go yesterday, a big
Speaker 1: name star and she's like, yeah, I'm in Iowa. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how he did that. She has to
Speaker 1: fly out to get tested because there's nothing anywhere real. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, so you guys are aware of that. Huh yeah,
Speaker 1: don't give me details. But where are you guys?
Speaker 4: So we're gonna we're gonna gos to Georgia.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, cool, cool cool? Go ahead, talk about that.
Speaker 1: No testing near you?
Speaker 5: So there is a any lab test now that's affiliated
Speaker 5: with with Talent Testing, and then we're gonna start looking
Speaker 5: more into like empower up in Atlanta as.
Speaker 4: A potential thing.
Speaker 5: But right now, whenever we plan our trips, like we
Speaker 5: leave a day or two early to get tested in
Speaker 5: one of the actual facilities, because it ends up we
Speaker 5: spend less money driving there and testing than spending money
Speaker 5: to test here, and of course when you're a couple,
Speaker 5: like it's even crazier because it's everything's times too. So
Speaker 5: like three point thirty is kind of a rough estimate
Speaker 5: of how much you spend if you get tested at
Speaker 5: a satellite site, then you know, times two, so then
Speaker 5: you're talking, you know, over six hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I I I understand you know that.
Speaker 1: But the fact that it's so expensive and you guys
Speaker 1: are always on the hook for that, Yeah, obviously, And
Speaker 1: it's okay, it's good that you're getting tested. Obviously, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't recommend the alternatives.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, it's not like it it ends up
Speaker 5: benefiting us in the long run, not just for like
Speaker 5: personal sex health, sexual health safety, all of that, but
Speaker 5: also at the end of the we've got to have
Speaker 5: some you know, expenses to kind of take down from
Speaker 5: our from our income.
Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah, yeah, no, you're you're right on that.
Speaker 2: It's not a big deal.
Speaker 5: I'm like, Okay, spend a little money to make a
Speaker 5: little money and then get a little money back at
Speaker 5: the end of the year.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it still sucks you gotta pay it though, or
Speaker 1: travel so far at least. Yeah, I've never I've done
Speaker 1: seventy some of these interviews actually probably closer to ninety
Speaker 1: with unreleased stuff. But Mike, I've never talked about the
Speaker 1: testing process.
Speaker 4: Yeah, ever once?
Speaker 1: Could you guys like walk me? Do you walk in
Speaker 1: the door and what you just give blood? And then
Speaker 1: what are they checking for?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 5: So so when we go to say talent testing in Tampa, right,
Speaker 5: we schedule everything online and pay for it ahead of time,
Speaker 5: and then we go in, we check in, they verify
Speaker 5: our IDs and everything. Then we go in uh peanut cup,
Speaker 5: and then we get a swabber bums and then we
Speaker 5: bring that into the one of the other rooms and
Speaker 5: then they will take blood and then they'll do the
Speaker 5: oral swab. So there's always new things coming out. Like
Speaker 5: mgen was the last big thing that they started adding
Speaker 5: to the testing, which is michael Plasma genitalium, which is
Speaker 5: a bacterium that can cause all sorts of luckiness within
Speaker 5: your system. So that one's an extra test that you
Speaker 5: got to test for. And then the swabs were the
Speaker 5: other one. There was mutated forms of gonnery and chlamydia
Speaker 5: that were not showing up in blood and urine. So
Speaker 5: they started finding that they were only detectable in oral
Speaker 5: and anal swabs.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a yeah, that's that's a that's a day
Speaker 1: to go in there and really handle this stuff over.
Speaker 1: So what is time frame on that? What does that
Speaker 1: make you clear for that? That's what I've never quite understood.
Speaker 5: Okay, So there are a lot there are some studios
Speaker 5: that they want you on a seven day test, So
Speaker 5: the first seven days of coming back clear from everything
Speaker 5: content creators and stuff.
Speaker 4: Typically you're good up to fourteen days.
Speaker 5: A lot of times they'll just for extra safety in
Speaker 5: case somebody's somebody somewhere down the line messed with someone
Speaker 5: that didn't test that, because it does get a little
Speaker 5: bit more challenging in a like at a big convention
Speaker 5: or whatever. So before you start your next set of collabs,
Speaker 5: you'll usually go and get a fresh test just to
Speaker 5: double check to make sure that you didn't pick up
Speaker 5: anything that you didn't know about during that convention.
Speaker 1: So a performer who's full time is getting tested once.
Speaker 4: A week, right, usually every two weeks.
Speaker 1: Okay, every two weeks okay.
Speaker 5: But yeah, something new comes up or if someone else
Speaker 5: is wanting a new test, I mean we we kind
Speaker 5: of do whatever we can for each other in the industry.
Speaker 1: To feel safe, right right right, And you guys, hey, look.
Speaker 4: I know you guys have been shooting all week.
Speaker 5: You know, we're just we really appreciate it if you
Speaker 5: if you went and got tested again, or hey, you
Speaker 5: shot with this one person that's had some that we
Speaker 5: know has had maybe a shady past.
Speaker 4: Would you mind going and get tested again?
Speaker 5: And you know, sure, no problem because comfort being feeling
Speaker 5: safe and comfort comforted that you know everybody is good
Speaker 5: to go.
Speaker 4: It's kind of a big thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's uh. I heard a story from
Speaker 1: mc grow I interviewed yesterday. Apparently a v N two
Speaker 1: years ago was totally ruined because somebody, oh, oh, are
Speaker 1: you aware of this about it? I don't remember the name.
Speaker 1: I'm not just being coy in. I probably wouldn't call
Speaker 1: them out anyway. But it's well, but it is. It
Speaker 1: is good in the industry to house certain people that
Speaker 1: will do real bad things.
Speaker 5: Right yeah, But we we try to do that inside
Speaker 5: of just along other talent and creators and stuff. I
Speaker 5: don't we don't like to put it out through the
Speaker 5: airwaves or through the internet or anything like. There's there's
Speaker 5: enough of that's going on. But that's something that we
Speaker 5: need to handle professionally. Amongst our people are fans out
Speaker 5: there following us on on Instagram and Twitter and stuff
Speaker 5: like that. They I don't I don't want them to
Speaker 5: have to deal with all of that with.
Speaker 4: With any extra drama.
Speaker 5: Like you can handle it on our own and that's
Speaker 5: that's just our personal way of dealing with that.
Speaker 1: Sure, But something like that is cardinal sin. Right.
Speaker 4: Oh it's it's definitely it's I mean, it's it's not
Speaker 4: good stuff, you know, it's yeah, no, not at all.
Speaker 4: Can anybody's trust you again?
Speaker 1: What is the wildest thing you would like to do
Speaker 1: that you've yet to do? Jasmine? Okay, I guess not
Speaker 1: like skydiving with like shooting a gun and at the
Speaker 1: same time or as a matter of.
Speaker 3: Fact, I'm going to thank Red Bottom Productions. It's going
Speaker 3: to be a chasmine U the ten guy king Bang
Speaker 3: wow wow. Yeah, the wildest thing ever?
Speaker 1: What kind of frozen vegetables are you going to sit
Speaker 1: on on your way home? Ps are real good. Pace
Speaker 1: are good because they're flexible.
Speaker 3: You just have to massage it with his tongue.
Speaker 1: Oh oh god, I feel so bad for j R.
Speaker 5: Again, my apologies to support your your partner, you know,
Speaker 5: so if I have to.
Speaker 1: So guess what, guys, I break this up because I
Speaker 1: don't have confidence in my own ability to talk with
Speaker 1: little games and this and that we don't we don't
Speaker 1: have to play a game. We're actually out of time.
Speaker 1: You guys were so engaging and entertaining. No no, no
Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you afterwards the point of the games. It's more for
Speaker 1: one one people who give one word answers very much.
Speaker 1: So I will just say to you, you guys are
Speaker 1: excellent today to talk to. I want to make sure
Speaker 1: I plug you properly. Okay, and again you just heard
Speaker 1: them this whole time. The talk is good. So check
Speaker 1: out the Just Cruising podcast please, yeah, make sure you
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Speaker 1: hanging out, which kind of makes it sexier even though
Speaker 1: it's goofy ladies and gentlemen. Jasmine Cruise and JR. Cruse,
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