Speaker 1: Beg you, ladies and gentlemen, for checking out going deeper.
I'm your host, Matt, and I've got a great show
planned for you tonight. You'll know my next guests. Well,
you'll know my next guest from her appearances on such
websites as badmilfs dot com and milf dot com. But
she's also the co host of the Just Cruise and
podcast with her husband and fellow performer. I don't know
you that well, yes, but that's what we hope to do.
Get to know you and fellow performer JR. Cruz. You
can find links to all of our social media in
the episode description or at Jasmin cruzexxx dot com. But
I also really want to recommend you go and check
out our only fans at Jasmin Cruse Fans. Like I said,
links to everything in the episode description. Ladies and gentlemen,
join me in welcoming the spectacular Jasmine Cruz and the
handsome I don't have a lot of adjectives for men
on this one, very good looking.
Speaker 2: Or arming.
Speaker 1: How are you folks doing tonight?
Speaker 3: We're doing wonderful as a Matjack.
Speaker 1: That's good. That's good to hear. Can you guys take
me whether it's separate or together, through your journey entering
into the adult enter any form of it, whether it's camming, stripping.
When was the first time either of you, both of you,
both of you at the same time, decided like, this
is it. We're gonna make this jump, this is this
is what we want to do. We're willing to put
ourselves out there and you know, let the chips fall
where they may.
Speaker 4: So you want me to do it first and all
just time in after, Okay.
Speaker 5: So basically it all started while I was stationed in
Korea and one of my soldiers had UH that we
become friends with, had mentioned that she reminded her. She
reminded her of us a Kira, and somehow we started
talking about getting into the adult industry.
Speaker 4: She enjoyed it.
Speaker 5: We'd been in the lifestyle for almost a decade at
that time, so it was like and she was starting
to do some modeling and everything, and she introduced us
to a friend who kind of helped get us started
UH setting up her only fans and stuff like that.
Flashed forward a couple of years. We moved to Georgia,
we started meeting other folks and UH getting her bookings
with different with Jesus, I can't talk today.
Speaker 2: Apparently started getting.
Speaker 5: Her some different bookings with modeling, more adult themes, modeling.
Uh and then uh what it was? Laura Cross was
one of the first girls that you shot at lower Cross.
Speaker 1: Yes, so, okay, I gotta take five steps back. Military
what branch army twenty years my former co host who
left this show, not on bad terms, just because he
wanted more time with his family. We still do a
comedy show together. He was where'd he go? Afghanistan? He
was a marine. The ironic thing too, the strange turn
of events here is Jasmin Chaiusk what nationality? You are?
Speaker 3: A Filipino?
Speaker 1: That is my co host's wife, Kiki Filipina. You can
find her showing she's also a performer. But yeah, yeah,
military beautiful Filipino women. That's a trend I've heard for
the last fifteen years from my friend. Yes, so okay,
all right, thank you for your service. I was a pussy.
I went to college. But what I will say not
college community college. I should have said that. Yeah, close enough, Jasmine,
what's the first Like, okay, let's take it even more
steps back. So you guys were already in the lifestyle
at the time you were swinging you were now at
that time, what kind of like limitations or things did
you have Did you have boundaries within your relationship like
this is totally fine, but this JR. Is not cool
with it?
Speaker 3: Or I would say, actually JR. Is pretty much supportive
and anything I do, he always encouraged it. And I
first started out when I started off Girl Girl and
toys first, and he helped me work on the toy
part because there were so many out there and he
had to help, you know, experiment how to use them.
So what better way to use the toys on me?
And then after a while he just said, I'm You're
free to do what you like, but also be comfortable
what you like. So I really didn't go right to
boy Girl yet. I did Girl Girl first and toys
and then after that him, you know, it was more
of a I wasn't ready to have like a full
swap yet, as they said, it was more of a
you know, well join maybe one person in the equations
what stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But let me pull your story. You weren't you weren't
open to a full swap yet. Now was that just?
Why was that? Was there was there any kind of
jealousy or was it fear that you might be jealous afterwards?
Or were you I was just gonna say, were you
scared of being with another guy in that instance, or like, it's.
Speaker 3: Just I just had jealousy issues. I'm over it now
when I look back, it was it was stupid.
Speaker 5: So the whole thing kind of started because I needed
to actually get sleep.
Speaker 4: And this girl wanted sex like four or five six times.
Speaker 1: A day, crying for you, jay or it's the same,
you know, Oh, like I'm looking at her and you're saying,
this beautiful woman wants sex all the time. What am I?
What am I gonna do? I'm not tearing though, but
continue your story.
Speaker 5: Got invite some friends to kind of step in, tag
tag in and you know, let me take a nap sometimes.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you don't have any kind of jealous any
any of that aspect, You're just like okay, And I
would assume I don't know because my wife and I
have been with I'm thirty six now, I've been with
my wife since I was nineteen actually, and we've never
never even really considered that because fear, not even the
real jealousy, just the fear of jealousy or fear of
anxiety or for both of us, you know, if I'm
enjoying it, who knows, maybe so it's never been a discussion.
But you don't have any of that, then it seems
like we're to an extent obviously.
Speaker 5: Right now, I mean, like our only our only boundary
is that you know, don't hide it from me. Sure,
sure you know that's the only kind of really form
of cheating in our definition of the lifestyle is if
we were to hide it from one another.
Speaker 1: So now again, oh sorry, I apologize, Go ahead continue.
Speaker 5: No, no, it's it's can deal at all. But so
one of those things that I know was her was
a similar thing like well you know what if he
enjoys it more with the other girl or something like that.
And you know what I explained to her was that, like, look,
everything else is fun, but like with you, you're the
only one that I'm ever gonna be with. So anything benefit,
anything that someone else, say does really well, I'm gonna
share that with her. And she's gonna share something, you know,
stuff that another guy does well for her, and it's
just gonna make us better in the sack. Sure, it's
just gonna in the in the long run, it's just
gonna make us that much better at doing.
Speaker 2: What we do well.
Speaker 1: It's funny that, I mean, I assume maybe, no, not
a lot. I don't know how to word this the
right way, but swinger is the perfect setup for this
to me, be it to go into the adult entertainment
industry only because it's it's you have have to learn
to separate the emotional from the physical. Look, this is
my fucking job. I'm gonna go have sex and this
and that, and it should be passionate and it should
feel good, and it should whatever. But like, Jasmine, who's
the only person you want to come home and watch
a movie on the couch with this guy there? And
guy one of them? One of them? But that's kind
of the point, you know, And I think that's what
people not don't understand but maybe can't grasp because again,
as a jealous I've never thought and even though I
do this podcast and everything else, I've never been like, oh,
we should think about being swingers. But that's just me
because I have such a deep connection. I don't have
that ability to separate that. Jasmine, did you always have
that ability to? I guess you didn't always have that ability.
What made you come around to having that ability to
separate those two things?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think with experience. I think when j R.
Gave me opportunity to say, let's try it out, and
the first thing he said is like, you don't have
to do it as soon as we meet someone and
you know you can get comfortable with that person. And
then with him saying that, I guess that didn't happen.
We actually did have our swinging experience with someone we
just met, which doesn't usually happen. But I guess it's
surprised to him. I guess the vibe was great. They
talked about books. I'm an intellectual type, so something about
turns me on. If someone talks about maybe algorithms or
delimitative it's just something to me.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I guess it gets me allterned about formulas and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Last book I read with Charlotte's Web in about
third grade.
Speaker 3: J R.
Speaker 1: Well, my wife always does say I'm some pig anyway, uh,
j or shit, I just love I just lost my question.
It was piggybacking off of that. But oh, in terms
of just the relationship itself, Are you also like a
book smart, like intelligent, like algorithm driven guy, or is
it your opposites that kind of make the puzzle pieces?
You look like you're built. You look like you hit
the gym a lot.
Speaker 2: I used to a lot more than I do now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I say the same thing too. There's one gym
body on this call, and I understand who Okay, fair enough,
fair enough.
Speaker 5: So I am I'm a bit of an intellectual. But
it's not from say, like you know, going to college
and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: It's just I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 5: Very compositive and I love I love learning about things
about what makes people tick. So I'll look and I'll
research and I'll go through rabbit holes figuring out stuff
just to kind of because I want that big with
more driven from my ability to from my desire to
talk to people.
Speaker 1: Are you big w Kipedia guy?
Speaker 5: Not?
Speaker 2: I try to Wikipedia just A'll fall.
Speaker 1: Down holes for hours on Wikipedia. I start on like,
you know, the first episode of Deadwood, and somehow I
end on German on Arcs and I'm just like.
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 1: How I get there? But there was some connection? Okay,
So you guys, you guys have similar personalities and so
that makes it a little bit easier. Let's talk about content. Okay,
So the first time you were reached out to to
shoot like a mainstream shoot, Jasmine, do you remember who
that was?
Speaker 3: Maybe not like a professional production.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, the first time when you were really when
when when they reach out to you and they're like,
one show on the big show, this is the major leagues.
You've been doing great work, but we want you in
the major leagues.
Speaker 3: Well, I would say it was Blaze Studios was my
first Yeah, yeah, production that was professional. Mark Blaze is amazing.
When I first worked with him, I told him it's
my first time to do a milking table, first time
for a gang Bang.
Speaker 2: So Gang Bang was was later it.
Speaker 3: Was later on. But other than that, that's another story.
That's another story. But and then I had to to
rate Dicks. I think he has that video hidden. But
when he said literally to rate Dicks, I was I
actually looked very very bored because I don't know. I
think the one that pops in my head when he
goes so from a scale from one to five, what
would or one to ten? Whatever? He said, one to five,
what would you rate it? And I'm sitting here like, well,
a zero because I didn't see any comb I was like,
so a one to five still A zero did nothing
for me, And I'm thinking there was no emotional emotion.
I was still I sat there. I was like, oh,
I didn't know that emotion. I don't know what decorating
was like.
Speaker 2: So it was like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was one of the It was about her
watching these like jerk off videos and then.
Speaker 1: Reactually actually was it at a table the jerk the
guys drinking on a table.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I didn't actually see the video.
Speaker 1: May have actually seen this series, I apologize. It popped
in my head. Was it like kind of like yeah, okay,
I think he was like he's sitting.
Speaker 3: On it so funny, he's dragging himself off and like
make okay.
Speaker 2: I may have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I apologize.
Speaker 3: Watching a low budget like film, it's the most Yeah.
Speaker 5: So it was so she was one of the things
was just she was supposed to watch these four or
five different videos and then rate them, and so at
first it was so it was a reaction video and
so he's like, all right, we're just.
Speaker 2: Gonna hit play and uh and we'll go from there.
Speaker 5: And so he hits play and she's just kind of
sitting there just looking at the screen, just like irritated
that she's got to watch this or something.
Speaker 4: And then and then Margo's okay cut. So Jasmine, do
you uh the key to AH reaction video is to.
Speaker 2: React like ah.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll say something and I'll look at the person
I'm interviewing and I go to zoom freeze what is
why are they not moving? And they're just like no,
I'm just like saying the next thing.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, it's a clause for dramatic effect.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sure, some of these pauses are a little long, I
told yeah, yeah, yeah. So you know what's funny though,
and what's so great about porn is you could have
just obviously it doesn't fit your brand, but I mean
I cut that one clip out where you're like zero,
and that's a good small penis humiliation video. Right. Maybe,
So again, maybe it's not the brand, but I'm just
thinking of if you were an individual shooting something like
this and it didn't turn out the way you wanted to,
could you just rebrand it in another way? So, Jasmine,
you say you like talking about the algorithms and this
and that and intelligent like smart people text stuff. Yes,
what is the best way for new girls to get
recognized in the industry?
Speaker 3: I would say for me, would be setting up their
own platforms, going to these porn conventions, networking, networking with
people like us to give them some guidance on how
to how we started with our social media, getting introduced
to the right people and start that way. Because when
we started, we didn't really have much direction. Nobody we
knew at the time didn't tell us, Hey, set these
platforms up, this is what you got to do, go
to these conventions. We were just totally lost. But right now,
that's the point of our podcast is to mentor other
you know, new performers, give them part of it. Yeah,
to give them the right direction where to go to,
what are good and safe ways to practice, you know,
getting tested at the right times, going to the right
testing centers, testing within that week when you do content,
and just safety practices. Because right now, I don't think
a lot enough is said. So that's why podcasts like
us will help others give them the right you know awareness.
Speaker 1: Well, when you're done listening to the Just Cruising podcast,
you can also check out my side podcast, which you
might find interesting. I call it brand new faces. And
what I do is I reach out to girls who
show they have some form of work ethic, meaning they
are consistently posting. I don't wanna, like, you know, hitch
my wag into somebody who is gonna quit in two weeks, right,
But I do interviews with newer girls and try and
give them like an audience or some form of an audience.
But that's such an important thing. I talk about, even
something as basic as a link tree. So many new
girls have no idea how powerful even just something where
everything is concentrated can be, you know. And I'm gonna
we're gonna do something at the end about new performers
that maybe you'll like. But I really enjoy hearing that
because because so many times I've interviewed like strippers, and
when you hear the behind the scenes at a strip club,
it's either it's it's two percent of the time very
very sweet and everybody's collaborative and everyone helps, and then
the other ninety eight percent of the time it's fucking
mad max and you're like making sure you don't get
scalped in the back room. The interviews I've done at
least Okay, So it's nice that the pin community to
some extent is collaborative in not just scenes and work
like that, but help too, right, Like were you given
help by other people? Not a lot of help, but
like advice or mentorship or anything like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Daisy Fox and mister j He Actually
they researched my Twitter or ex what's called, and they're like,
this is not your personality. Why is it so stiff?
We saw you at your stripper Your personality is like
a explosion of energy. And then we see you in
the Twitter going like this, like in your photos like that,
oh your tongue out, show that energy. And it went
from a few hundreds to now I'm over like twenty
twenty twenty k followers. Yeah, yeah, years to like build
it up because I didn't know where to go.
Speaker 5: But you know, and also are some of our friends
who we knew from the swinger community. There's also been
tremendous help as well. And Naomi Fox.
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is for the Fox at
the last name. It's always been hell a date Fox.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, Naomi Fox.
Speaker 2: Nami Banks is a totally different girl.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I thought I said Fox.
Speaker 4: You said Fox and then you said Banks at the end,
which is weird.
Speaker 1: But anyhow, I have no idea, I say, and forgot
I said it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but no, like it's because people have
been so helpful for us when we were getting started.
We want to pay it forward, you know, and help
others and and different stuff like safety and things like
we have. We have a team dynamic, which is which
is good and good for her. So you know, whenever
she's going to say a new shoot or shoot with
somebody new, I'll be there as well. If I'm not
running camera, I'll at least show up. I'll get the
paperwork stuff done, and then I'll move on to wherever
I'm supposed to go and I'll pick her up when
she's done. But just little things like that can be
a deterrent to potential predators out there because there's still
a lot in the industry and safety is a huge
thing and so we really especially these these younger, newer models,
you want to make sure that they're safe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, safety is my biggest thing too. When it comes
to things like you'll be published online forever this and that,
that's a decision you have to make, and you know
you should make that wisely and use your brain if
that's what you want to do. But as far as
the safety aspect, the newer girls who don't get paid
or get jerked around for their content or oh, I'll
send it to you next month, blah blah blah ahll
that bullshit that's got to be out like that's predatory.
That's not even that's below like sleazy business man. That's
like scumbag stuff.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: I heard earlier there's an interesting story about a gang bang. Yes, okay,
so let me ask was this the first? Was this
the first on camera gang bang you had done?
Speaker 3: This is my second line?
Speaker 2: No, that was your first?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 3: Oh the one I just did? Yea, it was my
first one?
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, that was your first one? Okay, nothing, you
never had anything like that in the swinger community or
just not like a fool on Okay, did you ever
any any two guys and you?
Speaker 5: Oh before my husband, Well, we've had we've had we've
had some after so that's another dude. Yes, oh no,
it's not new, but it was h It was funny
because we I talked to Mark about it and since
she was going to be traveling and I was gonna
be back home for Valentine's Day.
Speaker 4: That was what we decided to name it as a theme.
It was gang Bang for my Valentine.
Speaker 2: Cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, any anxiety going into that jasmine or had you
done oh? Okay, okay, so you said you had had
it prior in your life? A gang bang going into this?
What's different? Just you're going to be on camera?
Speaker 3: I guess though different is on camera and I'm actually
with professionals. So it was Peter fitzwal, Johnny Cartel, Dominic Flint,
who's been in the industry for years. But I knew
that when I was getting into this, how big of
a crazy goof We're all goofy silly. So I think
Mark Place had to keep cutting it because we made
like jokes here and there, laughed a lot, and he goes, okay,
this is a gang bang. We got to be like,
you know, getting sexually ready, and here we are talking about,
you know, ThunderCats. You know, let's go off of the team.
We're like, all right, simmer down. But at the same
time we're having a good time. And it made me
nervous because to live up to the expectations of professionalism.
I want to be just as great as them. You know,
I'm looking at to them as a really successful professionals
and I want to live up to that standard. But
you know, me that loves sex, I think it went
really great, so so.
Speaker 1: So going into it. It's not an obviously it's not
a concern about safety. But it's not a concern about
safety or even the professional of lism of the guys
you're working with, because you know they're all professionals.
Speaker 3: Them and I met them.
Speaker 1: It's more your own anxiety of reaching up to that
level of working with that that sounded.
Speaker 3: Like making it perfect for the video and for them,
because they're the ones that really putting, you know, their
hard work into it.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so. Can you guys
take me?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: This is an interesting question? Maybe I don't know. Can
you take me into your own content that you shoot?
Now there was fuck, there's I apologize. I just lost
my question again. It has been a long fucking week. No,
I know what it is. Sorry, the content you shoot?
Is it more fun and goofy like you were doing
to get yelled at by Mark? I mean, do you
ever put your own personality into stuff like that? Or
have you guys tightened it up and been like, well,
since we've been in this industry more we understand it
needs to or you'd like it to have some little
tighter level of professionalism.
Speaker 3: I think it's it's a combination of both, for sure.
I think we like to make it organic but utilize
our own creativity. I think that's one thing. He produces
a lot of the content I make. We work together,
put our brains together, and sometimes I create his scenario
so we actually build upon it. He told me to
write down my notes because I have so many in
my head in my cell phone, and we just put
it to reality. We're like, okay, that's my can happen.
I like this doctor hot wife scene. I like this
you know, nerdy butt scene or whatever, fuck my husband
while I watch scene, because that's the series we do,
and how it's just a lot of people that we've
brought into collab with. They really like it. They're like,
when do we get to go in that scene of
doctor Hawae fuck my husband while I watch scene. You know,
it's more of a they get to utilize their character.
We want their character, we want their personality to show.
I mean, we may have a few lines here and there,
but we improve it to make it fun for all everyone.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we basically it's almost like its structured chaos
is probably about the best way to label it.
Speaker 2: So, like, we came up with.
Speaker 5: The Doctor Hot Wife series, which a lot of it
are elements of who she actually is.
Speaker 3: In real life. In real life, I'm a sexual addiction therapist.
Speaker 2: In real life.
Speaker 1: That's like you certified. Oh okay, now that can be.
Speaker 3: A pervy version.
Speaker 4: She doesn't having PhD. She takes PhD.
Speaker 1: Yes, sure, pretty hard or pretty huge, a little bit
of bull okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2: But no.
Speaker 5: So basically, like so we came up with this character
Doctor Hot Wife, and that was how we kind of
built that around. So she would have different patients, couple singles.
Eventually we're gonna starting with some group therapy, but just
all kind of centralized around the whole doctor Hot Wife thing.
Speaker 2: So starts off with just.
Speaker 5: Doing a little bit of a talking and dialogue and
then they move into the treatment room, which is where
all the fun starts. So and they're just so the
doctor stuff is camp being funny and you know, okay
a little bit.
Speaker 1: I would say most porn sines are a percentage campy
if there's if it's not like a Gonza scene, like
I look at Johnny Sin's like, you're not a doctor
and a lawyer. That's bullshit. So a little bit like,
do you guys have a history at all in production
or was this totally fucking new for you guys jumping
into all this.
Speaker 3: Totally totally new? I think from from what we've seen
we've worked with Ray Ray and her husband. Her husband produces.
They do creative like stuff too with their minds and
write down their own stuff. And I'm like, jare I
think we could do that too. We've pretty much like
creative you know, narratives ourselves and make it goofy fun,
but yet you know, very professional. We could mix it
all up.
Speaker 5: So they were kind of the inspiration for how we
built our production stuff. You know, like we're not as
stringent as them, yet we're not we're not even close
to their level as far as like no production quality.
Like I mean, they're lighting, they're lighting their their cameras.
We're still on cell phone and some tamud freaking lights.
Speaker 1: Well you know what you know what that content? Okay,
First off, one, I have an interview with Ray Ray
next week, so I will be sure to mention all
the glowing reviews you gave before I check it out beforehand.
Just friends help, Okay, never mind, I thought maybe it
was a loose connection. I was going to try and
bond it a little closer, Like my god, did they
just babble about how great you were for hours?
Speaker 4: But we usually stay in Airbnb with them.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's very cool. That's cool to have friends. Okay,
So before the production question, has there ever been a crossover?
Speaker 5: So we shot for them. She's done a couple of
I was an extra. We were an extra in one
of their scenes, and then we did uh in Chicago.
We did a fun one that was pretty silly but fun.
I was a I was a male hooker that they
pulled out of retirement.
Speaker 2: She was my pimp.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 5: It's started off with a lot of kind of like
humiliation and ship. They were bullying the hell out of me.
I'm like, wait, y'all brought me out of retirement for this,
And of course she was then like, oh you brought
him out of retirement for this, you know.
Speaker 2: So like they were.
Speaker 5: Mean and she was dommy and just all sorts of
crazy stuff.
Speaker 2: It was so funny. We had to cut a quite
a few times because.
Speaker 5: They were giggling or you know, yeah, y ray would
like slap me or something, and then then she would
hit me hard and then she's like, oh my god,
was that okay?
Speaker 2: Are you all right?
Speaker 4: Like I'm like, yeah, you're good, Like I was supposed.
Speaker 5: To cry and command, so I'm crying on command, like
these aren't real tears.
Speaker 1: I promised you're just a hell of an actor and
she wasn't recognizing it in the moment, but perhaps she
does now I understand.
Speaker 5: It was great though, Like there was one part of
it where it's like she looks at me and she said.
Speaker 2: She goes, you're you're like a sexy Walrus.
Speaker 5: But old and sad, and I'm like, but still's but
still sexy and she's like no, And so then she
grabs him by the face and she's like, make a
Walris sound.
Speaker 2: I was like what.
Speaker 5: And then Rayd grabs me by the throat, gets this
close and it's like do it, and so I'm like, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then I immediately was like, what fucking sound
do Walrus is made? Here?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: But then he pulled it out. Improv skills absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean it was super fun.
Speaker 5: And then you know they that was their personal, their
personal fucked away for the next rest of the scene.
Speaker 1: Terrible, terrible track. Uh tell me about your guys podcast?
The Just Cruising podcast links obviously in the episode description
we talked about a little with a segment. There's a
segment of it about giving advice and people. What's the
full thing of it though.
Speaker 2: So part of it. It all started with us.
Speaker 5: We drive basically everywhere, like I don't like flying, and
if I do fly, like I've got to fly first
class or I'll just drive. I get more room, I
don't have to deal with weight restrictions, and it's it's fun.
Speaker 2: We just talk and shit like that.
Speaker 5: And so for a while we're like, oh, this should
be on a podcast, and you know, it kind of
slowly built on from there and it's like kind of
one of the major things that we that we try
to do is we cultivate a and a safe a
safe space for others to share parts of themselves and
be their authentic selves, you know, where they can kind
of get it, where the fans can kind of get
a peek behind the curtain, you know, and learn a
little bit more about all of us on a personal side,
because yes, we do a whole bunch of amazing things
and fun things and sexy things in front of the camera,
but we're also like parents. We do things like go
to the grocery store, like, you know, all of these
just kind of mundane things that the normal people do,
because we are normal people and we just.
Speaker 1: Yes, and there's that as well, obviously, yes, but so really.
Speaker 5: Just people look at us and see us as like
these terrible individuals because of what we do, and it's like, well,
that's just a job. And then we, you know, go
home and take care of our families and do normal things.
Speaker 1: Wait, you're saying that, you're saying world famous porn starters
don't go home to an orgy and then wake up
and then go to set and then also have Okay,
I just wasn't positive about that.
Speaker 4: Start to burst that ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's why I do my show too. If
you notice, I haven't had any of those hack questions really, like, Hey, so, Jasmine,
do you like anal Like is that something you like?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: Honestly, I want to know you as the performer. I
like talking, truthfully, I like talking the business aspect. I
like talking What I've been on a real kick lately
is talking about how great I think it is when
a stripper. We'll see a guy in a corner, like
hanging out with his buddies, and then he hits the
ATM for the third time after he said he wasn't
going to spend any money. One of my favorite as
long as it's not his mortgage or his kids, brace'st payment.
One of my favorite things in the whole world. So
I like talking about stuff like that. I'm not you
know whatever, but I do want to talk about your
your actual content, like shit you have coming up, stuff
you want to produce, scenes you want to do, people
you want to work with. Maybe talk me through like
the next six months, year, two years of your content.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I see this still producing our series, and
what I want to do is to expand with our podcast,
get our brand out there, because like we just started
just a few months ago, got seven published on seven episodes, publishing, Apple,
car Play, iHeartRadio, and Spotify, so I think people are
really listening in. I mean, I really want to thank
av and Media Network, Don DeMarco, all of the people
PR that probably push our podcast because surprisingly we were
just interviewing Nikki Huntsman and all of a sudden, oh.
Speaker 5: My gosh, everyone's like manat episode too.
Speaker 3: It was a great episode, and it showcased all our
personalities and we're all silly, but we want to maintain
that silly yet you know, we're sophisticated, classy, but we
could be fun and exciting. I know I'm still an
exotic answer a case tripping whatever they call it. I
still do it, but I feel like I want to
I want to teach some classes maybe like you know
on my tutorials, I want to do that. I want
to do reels and do it where people can watch
me and ask questions, and just we want to be
at the level maybe in a few years where we'll
be hiring just like Ray Ray and her husband does
the talent, will give them guidance and you.
Speaker 5: Know, yeah eventually, yeah, like event The goal is for
that part is to be able to hire people. We
keep the content and stuff like that. We're not opposed
to continue to do collapse as well, but like we
want to really get our stuff to established us. We
want to get our production studio actually like more established,
sure within hopefully within the next year, we want to
have our mobile podcast, which is hopefully a like a
motor home. Sure we can road trip from there, have
couples come along, and then even do some like vlogs
while we're on a road trip to whatever the event is.
Speaker 1: That's really interesting if you okay, if you keep it
current events, you have to release it, you know, in
real time almost Yeah, but if you did a road
tripping around the US interviewing other they're sex workers, this
and that, but keep it time relevant, like keep it evergreen,
meaning you could really release it six months from now
where two months from now, you guys could do a
whole series of going to maybe I don't know where,
I guess I wouldn't.
Speaker 5: Well, Abian and X three would be like kind of
like the ideal one, sure, you know, because kind of
going through the Southern States and up to California for
X three and then come back to Vegas and then
work our way back from there.
Speaker 4: Would be the ideal.
Speaker 1: I was picturing you guys with unlimited money and time,
which I guess was unrealistic of me, and going to
those porn stares who live in like Cleveland and being like,
look another human being you can see for the first time.
Let's interview. Yeah yeah, but I was I was picking
real shitty places for you to go by the way,
I was gonna be like, so the stuff in Iowa
for a while.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Wanton, Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. There are content creators in these places though,
which is so crazy. I interviewed go yesterday, a big
name star and she's like, yeah, I'm in Iowa. I'm like,
I don't know how he did that. She has to
fly out to get tested because there's nothing anywhere real. Okay,
all right, so you guys are aware of that. Huh yeah,
don't give me details. But where are you guys?
Speaker 4: So we're gonna we're gonna gos to Georgia.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, cool, cool cool? Go ahead, talk about that.
No testing near you?
Speaker 5: So there is a any lab test now that's affiliated
with with Talent Testing, and then we're gonna start looking
more into like empower up in Atlanta as.
Speaker 4: A potential thing.
Speaker 5: But right now, whenever we plan our trips, like we
leave a day or two early to get tested in
one of the actual facilities, because it ends up we
spend less money driving there and testing than spending money
to test here, and of course when you're a couple,
like it's even crazier because it's everything's times too. So
like three point thirty is kind of a rough estimate
of how much you spend if you get tested at
a satellite site, then you know, times two, so then
you're talking, you know, over six hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I I I understand you know that.
But the fact that it's so expensive and you guys
are always on the hook for that, Yeah, obviously, And
it's okay, it's good that you're getting tested. Obviously, I
wouldn't recommend the alternatives.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, it's not like it it ends up
benefiting us in the long run, not just for like
personal sex health, sexual health safety, all of that, but
also at the end of the we've got to have
some you know, expenses to kind of take down from
our from our income.
Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah, yeah, no, you're you're right on that.
Speaker 2: It's not a big deal.
Speaker 5: I'm like, Okay, spend a little money to make a
little money and then get a little money back at
the end of the year.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it still sucks you gotta pay it though, or
travel so far at least. Yeah, I've never I've done
seventy some of these interviews actually probably closer to ninety
with unreleased stuff. But Mike, I've never talked about the
testing process.
Speaker 4: Yeah, ever once?
Speaker 1: Could you guys like walk me? Do you walk in
the door and what you just give blood? And then
what are they checking for?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 5: So so when we go to say talent testing in Tampa, right,
we schedule everything online and pay for it ahead of time,
and then we go in, we check in, they verify
our IDs and everything. Then we go in uh peanut cup,
and then we get a swabber bums and then we
bring that into the one of the other rooms and
then they will take blood and then they'll do the
oral swab. So there's always new things coming out. Like
mgen was the last big thing that they started adding
to the testing, which is michael Plasma genitalium, which is
a bacterium that can cause all sorts of luckiness within
your system. So that one's an extra test that you
got to test for. And then the swabs were the
other one. There was mutated forms of gonnery and chlamydia
that were not showing up in blood and urine. So
they started finding that they were only detectable in oral
and anal swabs.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a yeah, that's that's a that's a day
to go in there and really handle this stuff over.
So what is time frame on that? What does that
make you clear for that? That's what I've never quite understood.
Speaker 5: Okay, So there are a lot there are some studios
that they want you on a seven day test, So
the first seven days of coming back clear from everything
content creators and stuff.
Speaker 4: Typically you're good up to fourteen days.
Speaker 5: A lot of times they'll just for extra safety in
case somebody's somebody somewhere down the line messed with someone
that didn't test that, because it does get a little
bit more challenging in a like at a big convention
or whatever. So before you start your next set of collabs,
you'll usually go and get a fresh test just to
double check to make sure that you didn't pick up
anything that you didn't know about during that convention.
Speaker 1: So a performer who's full time is getting tested once.
Speaker 4: A week, right, usually every two weeks.
Speaker 1: Okay, every two weeks okay.
Speaker 5: But yeah, something new comes up or if someone else
is wanting a new test, I mean we we kind
of do whatever we can for each other in the industry.
Speaker 1: To feel safe, right right right, And you guys, hey, look.
Speaker 4: I know you guys have been shooting all week.
Speaker 5: You know, we're just we really appreciate it if you
if you went and got tested again, or hey, you
shot with this one person that's had some that we
know has had maybe a shady past.
Speaker 4: Would you mind going and get tested again?
Speaker 5: And you know, sure, no problem because comfort being feeling
safe and comfort comforted that you know everybody is good
to go.
Speaker 4: It's kind of a big thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's uh. I heard a story from
mc grow I interviewed yesterday. Apparently a v N two
years ago was totally ruined because somebody, oh, oh, are
you aware of this about it? I don't remember the name.
I'm not just being coy in. I probably wouldn't call
them out anyway. But it's well, but it is. It
is good in the industry to house certain people that
will do real bad things.
Speaker 5: Right yeah, But we we try to do that inside
of just along other talent and creators and stuff. I
don't we don't like to put it out through the
airwaves or through the internet or anything like. There's there's
enough of that's going on. But that's something that we
need to handle professionally. Amongst our people are fans out
there following us on on Instagram and Twitter and stuff
like that. They I don't I don't want them to
have to deal with all of that with.
Speaker 4: With any extra drama.
Speaker 5: Like you can handle it on our own and that's
that's just our personal way of dealing with that.
Speaker 1: Sure, But something like that is cardinal sin. Right.
Speaker 4: Oh it's it's definitely it's I mean, it's it's not
good stuff, you know, it's yeah, no, not at all.
Can anybody's trust you again?
Speaker 1: What is the wildest thing you would like to do
that you've yet to do? Jasmine? Okay, I guess not
like skydiving with like shooting a gun and at the
same time or as a matter of.
Speaker 3: Fact, I'm going to thank Red Bottom Productions. It's going
to be a chasmine U the ten guy king Bang
wow wow. Yeah, the wildest thing ever?
Speaker 1: What kind of frozen vegetables are you going to sit
on on your way home? Ps are real good. Pace
are good because they're flexible.
Speaker 3: You just have to massage it with his tongue.
Speaker 1: Oh oh god, I feel so bad for j R.
Speaker 5: Again, my apologies to support your your partner, you know,
so if I have to.
Speaker 1: So guess what, guys, I break this up because I
don't have confidence in my own ability to talk with
little games and this and that we don't we don't
have to play a game. We're actually out of time.
You guys were so engaging and entertaining. No no, no
no no no no no no no no. I'll tell
you afterwards the point of the games. It's more for
one one people who give one word answers very much.
So I will just say to you, you guys are
excellent today to talk to. I want to make sure
I plug you properly. Okay, and again you just heard
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