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<v Speaker 1>You're listenings KFI AM six forty the Bill Handles show

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<v Speaker 1>on demand on the iHeartRadio app Good Morning on a Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>December fourth, hump Day. Also, we're collecting phone calls, not

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<v Speaker 1>only money for Pastathon, which is still out there. I

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<v Speaker 1>go to KFIAM six forty dot com slash Pastathon. But

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<v Speaker 1>we have a new segment that we've tried a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of times and it seems to be a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>fun and it's we're calling it. Ask Handle anything and

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<v Speaker 1>I will answer those questions.

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<v Speaker 2>For the most part.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, FCC violations, no procedures, iHeart no and too

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<v Speaker 1>personal no, although I've answered a few that I was

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely humiliated with last week. So if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask me a question and I will answer it, here's

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<v Speaker 1>what you do during the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to the iHeart app. It's for you.

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<v Speaker 1>a micro phone. Just click onto the mic record your question.

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<v Speaker 1>You have fifteen seconds to record a question and Neil

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<v Speaker 1>and Ann will select the questions that I will answer

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<v Speaker 1>and I do not know what they are. I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea, and I hear them for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>as you do, and then I will spontaneously answer the

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<v Speaker 1>question without even thinking. I might add because in case

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't guessed it yet, I do a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>spouting without thinking, as Neil and and will tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>My mouth runs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my mouth runs far quicker than does my brain.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's always a lot of fun. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>third go round on that.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see how that goes.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, this is a story out of CNN cnn

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<v Speaker 1>dot com, so take consider where it came from. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's a story about Mark Zuckerberg, who at one point

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<v Speaker 1>was dissolution with politics.

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<v Speaker 2>He at once promoted and he was just over it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's just say he is trying to smooth over

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<v Speaker 1>his relationship with Donald Trump that has not been particularly good.

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<v Speaker 2>And now it's being reported that Zuck Sucker calls Zuck.

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<v Speaker 1>For short, I calls him Zuck is angling for an

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<v Speaker 1>active role in shaping tech policy in the new administration,

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<v Speaker 1>basically setting himself up to work directly with the president

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<v Speaker 1>who recently threatened to jail.

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<v Speaker 2>Him for life.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and that gets interesting, and his rival, working with

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<v Speaker 1>his rival Musk Elon Musk, who challenged him to a

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<v Speaker 1>cage match. I mean this gets really interesting to say

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<v Speaker 1>the least. Now, does he have much of a choice, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>a cage match, not so necessarily, but he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>much choice but to lay it on and lay it

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<v Speaker 1>on thick with Donald Trump, as most of not only

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<v Speaker 1>political characters do, especially the Republicans. I mean you, the

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<v Speaker 1>sucking up to Trump is beyond anything I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>He can destroy a political career with one post on

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<v Speaker 1>True Social. There was a keep in mind, think of now,

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<v Speaker 1>how big is meta? Is Meta as a company? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you how big. It's a one point five

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<v Speaker 1>trillion dollar company. Trump says something on True Social, nailing

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<v Speaker 1>it and the stock drops like a rock.

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<v Speaker 2>Does it come back?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably?

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<v Speaker 1>But Trump has the ability to kill a career if

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<v Speaker 1>someone is a Republican with one post, he can destroy

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<v Speaker 1>business with one posts. I don't think we've ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>such power in a non president, in a non sitting president,

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<v Speaker 1>he can do that. So what are you going to see?

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<v Speaker 1>Sucking up on a level that is almost impossible to

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<v Speaker 1>even understand. Well, you can understand it, but it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>beyond credulity, because Trump is going to be a president

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<v Speaker 1>that we have never seen before. He is as much

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<v Speaker 1>a strong man as we've ever had. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a tough row to hoe or hoe to row or

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<v Speaker 1>hoes dealing with it. I've ever quite gotten that completely.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're gonna see CEOs like Zuckerberg and Microsoft CEOs

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<v Speaker 2>And the other thing is, not only do they.

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<v Speaker 1>up to Elon Musk because Musk is now Trump's best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>So all of a sudden, the executives who heretofore, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>now you're seeing the concept of you bend the knee

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<v Speaker 1>or you pray, no one notices if you say nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>And how do we know, well how many companies are

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<v Speaker 1>backtracking on diversity equity inclusion programs, a Trump staple. Last week,

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<v Speaker 1>promote racial equity, equity out and evaluate funding for pride events. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>agree that these diversity, the pro gay rights not that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not in favor of them, but it has gone

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<v Speaker 1>way too far.

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<v Speaker 2>It has. It's a pendulum, it really is.

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<v Speaker 1>When you look at the Black Lives Matter and the

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<v Speaker 1>it you could see the pendulum swung too far. Now

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<v Speaker 1>are you hearing defund the police? Are you hearing disband

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<v Speaker 2>You are not.

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<v Speaker 1>A few years ago, it was woke, woke, woke. That's disappearing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know how really know how to pronounce

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<v Speaker 1>woke or define woke. I guess sort of, we know

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<v Speaker 1>it when we see It's like Justice Potter during the

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<v Speaker 1>early the early pornography cases in the seventies where First

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<v Speaker 1>Amendment rights were decided in favor basically of pornography, and

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<v Speaker 1>Justice Potter wrote in one of the decisions, the majority

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<v Speaker 1>decisions advocating First Amendment rights. You know, I can't really

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<v Speaker 1>define pornography, but I know it when I see it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think the same thing goes.

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<v Speaker 2>I think when it comes to diversity programs that woke.

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<v Speaker 2>At what point do they go too far?

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't know, but uh, I know it when

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<v Speaker 1>I see it, and I think that's what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I want to switch over to some of

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<v Speaker 1>the nominees again. I want to spend a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of time talking about Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm having a great time talking about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being more fair. You have to admit I'm coming down.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm now coming back to reality and taught or Yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I was pretty anti Trump. I'm not a big fan now.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I do is I took his statements as gospel, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't. I really didn't think his statements were gospel.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm now looking at it and trying to analyzeing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's let's get real. We've got four years coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, one of these segments that I want to do

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<v Speaker 1>that is still kind of nuts is coming up in

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<v Speaker 1>that At the bottom of the hour, we'll go to

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Jim Katy.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 4>six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a hum day, all right. What are we looking at?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Pastathon, let's talk about that for a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>A report.

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<v Speaker 1>As of ten pm last night, the numbers were Pastathon,

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<v Speaker 1>we had raised nine hundred and forty five thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>about one hundred thousand dollars over where we were same

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<v Speaker 1>time last year, and about eighty thousand pounds of pasta

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<v Speaker 1>and sauce, so that's forty tons. We hit fifty tons

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<v Speaker 1>last year, so we're a little behind on that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I haad of last year in terms of money. And

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<v Speaker 1>you can still get involved if you would please. You

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<v Speaker 1>can go to any Smart and Final store and at

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<v Speaker 1>checkout just go ahead and put some money on the table.

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<v Speaker 2>Or you can donate pasta and sauce.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll see a video of me filling up a shopping cart,

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<v Speaker 1>going through the checkout, and of course then having all

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<v Speaker 1>the pasta sauce return to the shells.

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<v Speaker 2>But the video looks great, doesn't it. And you can go.

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<v Speaker 1>To any Wendy's five dollars donation or more a coupon

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<v Speaker 1>book for a lot more than five bucks, and or

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<v Speaker 1>go to the website and you can do that, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's Pastathon. Our pastathon website is kfiam six forty dot

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<v Speaker 1>com slash pastathon.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's this of ten.

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<v Speaker 1>O'clock last night, and I don't want to wake up

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle to get the last numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Michelle worked twenty hours yesterday to putting this thing together

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<v Speaker 2>and running it.

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<v Speaker 1>So Michelle does that every year. Okay, real quickly, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I had more time. But this has to

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<v Speaker 1>do with another cabinet pick. Now you know that Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Gates is gone, Pete Hegswith is probably going to be

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<v Speaker 1>gone as Defense secretary. And now we have a pick

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<v Speaker 1>of Tulci Gabbard who has been picked as head of

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<v Speaker 1>National Intelligence.

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<v Speaker 2>And she is not going to make it either.

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<v Speaker 1>Oversight of eighteen intelligence agencies, no, oversight of coordination between

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<v Speaker 2>And foreign governments.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>What has been the.

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<v Speaker 1>Response in Washington among the security people. We're not happy

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<v Speaker 1>with it. No, it's a bad choice. How about this one?

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<v Speaker 1>Utter panic is what's going on? One of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that Trump is doing and I don't know, really know

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<v Speaker 1>the motivation is He's throwing people up there for cabinet position,

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<v Speaker 1>for Senate confirmation, needed positions that are just insane. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all a question of loyalty. I mean, what's her experience.

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<v Speaker 1>She is Fox News contributor. She ran for Congress in Hawaii, lost,

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<v Speaker 1>an Iraq war veteran, a very well decorated one, a

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<v Speaker 1>staunch critic of US foreign policy. Yeah, was a surrogate

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<v Speaker 1>for Bernie Sanders twenty sixteen presidential campaign and then switched

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<v Speaker 1>sides and became a staunch, staunch Megaite and Trump's supporter.

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<v Speaker 1>And she just wants the United States to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of everything we do internationally. She formally joined the Republican Party,

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<v Speaker 1>was a Trump rallies, offering praise for his diplomacy. America first,

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<v Speaker 1>get out of any involvement with foreign foreign interests, but not.

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<v Speaker 2>Just get out.

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<v Speaker 1>She has said publicly that the invasion of Ukraine is

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden's fault. He starred the invasion. Putin is innocent.

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<v Speaker 1>He was simply defending his interests. Now there's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more of that, and that's the push that Ukraine

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<v Speaker 1>for that, and therefore Putin, in response to that, invaded

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<v Speaker 1>Ukraine and Joe Biden somehow is to blame.

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<v Speaker 2>She's close to Vladimir Putin.

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<v Speaker 1>Matter of fact, during the twenty twenty presidential campaign, she

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<v Speaker 1>was a favorite of the Russian propaganda machine. A month

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<v Speaker 1>three major Moscow based English language website. She used her

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<v Speaker 1>platform to, in fact promote Russian interests, unflitching support for

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<v Speaker 1>the Israel campaign in Gaza, which allowed us are going

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<v Speaker 1>to say you betcha. And Western leaders have failed to

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<v Speaker 1>defeat this threat because they refuse to acknowledge it must

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<v Speaker 1>be defeated ideologically and militarily. I think the United States

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<v Speaker 1>has said that backing up Israel on that one. The

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<v Speaker 1>the humanitarian aid and the utter destruction of every building

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<v Speaker 1>in Gaza, which, by the way, I'm fine with. The

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<v Speaker 1>problem is national security and doesn't believe, does not believe

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<v Speaker 1>The Pentagon has one, certainly, you've.

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<v Speaker 1>Of themselves all have There're seventeen agencies that deal with

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<v Speaker 2>Now, there will be people.

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<v Speaker 2>We are backing, we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Voting for that person, no matter what. We don't even

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<v Speaker 1>need Senate hearings. Let's just vote right now. Yes, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>to confirm his choice, not to investigate, not to vote well,

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<v Speaker 1>to vote, certainly, not to vet. It is to confirm.

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<v Speaker 1>have no experience as long as they're ideologically correct. Coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>I always do to try to impress you. We have

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<v Speaker 2>I love talking about that too. We'll be back.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 4>six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>As We and the program on Wednesday, and we do

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<v Speaker 1>it every Wednesday with doctor Jim Keeney. Jim is the

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<v Speaker 2>Doc Jim, Good morning, Good morning, Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we have some good news and we have some

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<v Speaker 2>The good news bad news. You know, I just I

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<v Speaker 2>can't on this one. A non opioid pain killer.

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<v Speaker 1>Now hopefully it is completely addictive and it will half

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean we don't know yet, right. So the

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<v Speaker 3>theory is this is not a narcotic. Narcotics work by

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<v Speaker 3>the brain. This new substance is called souzetra gene is

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<v Speaker 3>addictive nature that's created in the brain, but it also

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<v Speaker 3>It's supposed to be comparable to oral opioids like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>but we'll see if this is.

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<v Speaker 1>If it does pan out, this becomes a blockbuster, This

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<v Speaker 1>the opioids where Purdue you know, created OxyContin and just

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, you know, of course, those of us

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<v Speaker 3>who've been in the field for a while, we always

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<v Speaker 3>have this reservation, right because about twenty years ago there

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<v Speaker 3>is also not a narcotic, and we thought this was

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<v Speaker 3>going to be the greatest thing ever. It works immediately,

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<v Speaker 3>known as green Whistle. I don't know where it got

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<v Speaker 3>higher doses we were using twenty years ago, cause liver damage,

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<v Speaker 3>kidney damage, and so the FDA banned it in the

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<v Speaker 3>United States, but they've altered the formulation and they've used

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<v Speaker 3>it at lower doses and in Australia they're using it.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, you know, again, was that the opioid industry,

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<v Speaker 3>that dangerous back then and now it's been improved. There's

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in terms of drug clearances, the FDA and Australia

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<v Speaker 1>Australia provides world class medicine, just the first world medical country.

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<v Speaker 2>How do they do it? And the FDA says no.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, they I don't know, you know, there's different regulations,

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<v Speaker 3>different ways that people look at things, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>got banned early on, and the ability to reverse a

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<v Speaker 3>band is a lot of you know, there's a headwind

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<v Speaker 3>to that that you have to overcome, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 3>impact on patients. So again, and with this other drug

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there are still people around that have.

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<v Speaker 1>These very shortened limbs where you know, I was about

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<v Speaker 1>do I go there, Neil and make a horrible joke

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<v Speaker 2>Leave me out of this, all right, Jim, I'll tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you the joke at the at the break,

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<v Speaker 1>of deformed otherwise would be deformed kids not being deformed. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna come back. I'm gonna tell Jim the joke,

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<v Speaker 1>So keep me going with Jim. And then weight loss

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<v Speaker 1>Looking at the store R Supreme Court diving into the

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<v Speaker 1>to do that on Friday. And here's how you get involved.

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<v Speaker 1>Where you can ask me any.

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<v Speaker 1>procedures violations or the policy, but pretty much everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>decide which questions I'm going to answer. I do that spontaneously.

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<v Speaker 1>About, all right, Back we go to doctor Jim Keeney

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<v Speaker 1>where we have medical news every Wednesday. Jim, I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at a story about waste weight loss drugs, and every

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is beyond a magic bullet. This could

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<v Speaker 1>at the turn of the century or last century that

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<v Speaker 1>we know it's not snake oil. I mean it is

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<v Speaker 1>Is it that good?

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<v Speaker 3>your use. But again also these you know, drugs that

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<v Speaker 3>seem to treat multiple things. But yeah, so this has

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<v Speaker 3>confirm it, which is that these weight loss drugs that

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see what happens in the future. But it does

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<v Speaker 1>And statins have become well, virtually everybody I know who's

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<v Speaker 3>but you're right, there's there's these kind of drugs just

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<v Speaker 3>seem to have a life of their own.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I think you try and avoid taking medications

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<v Speaker 3>when at all possible. Uh, and that's sometimes it's not possible.

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<v Speaker 3>Or you know, you try and address these issues of

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<v Speaker 3>heart attack, stroke and weight loss using more natural methods.

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<v Speaker 3>But if that's not working for you, we do have options.

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<v Speaker 3>And for a lot of people that's not working for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm thinking low dose aspirin and the state and

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<v Speaker 1>all you have to do is add sidentophil, viagra, generic viagra,

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<v Speaker 1>andnox monoxidant or monoxophill and you cover all the bases.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're done.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean we're a pill popping society and that definitely,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, hits all the triggers.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, talking about fat, we're going to end it

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<v Speaker 1>with this belly fat. We've talked about belly fat not

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<v Speaker 1>being particularly healthy for you.

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<v Speaker 2>And now that goes on. This is exactly the.

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<v Speaker 1>Opposite of the weight loss drugs, and that is belly

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<v Speaker 1>fat now linked to brain decay and early signs of Alzheimer's.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a tough one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So this is not just no belly fat, right.

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<v Speaker 3>So we all have subcutaneous fat, and that's the primary

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<v Speaker 3>fat that you see when you look at somebody who

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<v Speaker 3>is overweight or even just a normal person, the smoothness

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<v Speaker 3>of their skin is created by subcutaneous fat. That does

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<v Speaker 3>cause the more fat you have under your skin and

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<v Speaker 3>in your body, the more inflammation you have. But visceral fat,

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<v Speaker 3>which is the fat that surrounds your organs, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>the fat you're looking at. It's a little bit harder

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<v Speaker 3>to detect. It does correlate. I mean, if you're overweight

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<v Speaker 3>and you have a large waste circumference, you probably have

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of visceral fat. But that fat is much

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<v Speaker 3>more inflammatory. It's much more active hormonally, and it's much

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<v Speaker 3>more disruptive to your metabolic system. So we know it

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<v Speaker 3>creates inflammation. We think that it's the inflammation created by

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<v Speaker 3>that visceral fat. It's also creating inflammation in the blood

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<v Speaker 3>vessels at your brain, which lay down all these proteins

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<v Speaker 3>that are precursors for Alzheimer's disease. And ultimately, now in

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<v Speaker 3>this study they're showing becomes Alzheimer's disease. So you know

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<v Speaker 3>that that's kind of the linkage. But it may be

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<v Speaker 3>something else. It may be that that visceral fat is

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<v Speaker 3>impacting your metabolic state or hormonally and that's creating the Alzheimer's.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know exactly what the link is, but there

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<v Speaker 3>is an association there that if you have a high

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<v Speaker 3>belly fat, you have a much higher risk of Alzheimer's.

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<v Speaker 2>And how do you find out?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, as you said, looking at fat, If someone's fat,

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<v Speaker 1>you just poke and your finger bows in. But you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about fat around the organs. Is it easy to determine?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean from a medical standpoint, what doctors do is

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<v Speaker 3>they look at your waiste circumference and they say, look,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to your waist is bigger than your shoulders.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's not a good ratio. So let's try and

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<v Speaker 3>get that more in line. For research what they do

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<v Speaker 3>as an MRI, and the MRI can show you know,

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<v Speaker 3>different densities based on water content, typically will show you

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<v Speaker 3>what things are. And then an MRI fat has no

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<v Speaker 3>water in it and so it's very easy to see.

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<v Speaker 3>And then they can use programs to calculate the total

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<v Speaker 3>volume that they're seeing on the MRI of fat. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's how they do it in research.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Jim, thank you always, great stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll catch you again next Wednesday. Take care.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey all right, doctor Jim Keiney, chief medical Officer for

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<v Speaker 1>Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center in Long Beach. I said, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>we're done. Wednesday is done. We're back again tomorrow. Amy

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<v Speaker 1>starts at five am, Neil and I join up at

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<v Speaker 1>six and we go right till just about now. And

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<v Speaker 1>so also a big thank you to Ann and Kono

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<v Speaker 1>who is not here. Elmer, we have you for one

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<v Speaker 1>more day, right, excellent, all right, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're done. Goodbye. You've been listening to the Bill Handle Show.

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