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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, Hey guys, and welcome to what episode are

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<v Speaker 1>we on?

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty seven, twenties seven of a Strange Thing podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Mike and I'm sick, sick Austin sick Austin, and we

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<v Speaker 2>are your host in the Strangers episode. Yeah, Austin's got

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<v Speaker 2>a head cold.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he doesn't have the COVID I got tested. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not COVID, So COVID. You guys can put your headphones

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<v Speaker 1>back on. I'm not going to infect you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. He's just got some kind of get a little

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<v Speaker 2>extra nasal. That made you sound a little different. You're

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<v Speaker 2>resonating different. Yeah, it sounds stuffy, but hey, which is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of good because this topic has to do with

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<v Speaker 2>stuffing envelopes? What? Yeah, because what are we going to

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<v Speaker 2>be talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>And this topic also makes me sick.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes you sick, hey, or get you in trouble?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, It's got me in trouble for many, many years. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is their topic? V Day? No, not VD

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<v Speaker 2>Valentine's Day. Oh Valentine's Day. I thought you were talking

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<v Speaker 2>venereal disease, I said, day. It has a lot in common, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of venereal diseases get transmitted on this day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, on this topic, venereal diseases like Valentine's Day come.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, or you know, in ancient times this was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a super spreader day for types of venereal disease,

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<v Speaker 2>super spread of super spreader. But anyway, we're getting ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of ourselves. So, yeah, today we're going to be talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Valentine's Day. And there are a lot of strange

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<v Speaker 2>things that surround Valentine's Day, and we thought, hey, let's

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<v Speaker 2>do a one off here before we go to our

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<v Speaker 2>next big series on a cool topic.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I if I'm thinking right, which I might

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<v Speaker 1>not be because of the night quill and stuff, this

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<v Speaker 1>topic might kind of tie into our next topic.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we will get there. I think it actually

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<v Speaker 2>ties in very naturally. Yes, totally. But we don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to get ahead of ourselves, no, sir, So I thought

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<v Speaker 2>to start out with it might be kind of nice

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<v Speaker 2>for us just to talk a little bit about maybe

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<v Speaker 2>some of our own experiences with Valentine's Day. Perfect yea,

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<v Speaker 2>does that sound good? Yeah, sounds good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amiliating.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just remember, so Valentine's Day when you think

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<v Speaker 2>about it, back when you were a little kid and

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<v Speaker 2>you would go to school and you'd have to fill

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<v Speaker 2>out like thirty or forty Valentine's to give away to

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<v Speaker 2>all your friends in your classroom, because you do the

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<v Speaker 2>Valentine swap and you had to be nice and you

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<v Speaker 2>give it to all the people in your class and

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<v Speaker 2>then you'd make Valentine's boxes, and sometimes that was even

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<v Speaker 2>like part of the fun of it was.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my favorite part for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes it even had like contests to see you

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<v Speaker 2>could create the coolest Valentine's box?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you coming up with the story I'm thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, I know that story because I helped you

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<v Speaker 2>with it, But I'm just remembering as a kid, it

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<v Speaker 2>was quite exciting. Yeah, and then back then it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>quite as politically correct as it is nowadays. So sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>you would not give people you didn't like Valentine even

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<v Speaker 2>though you were supposed to suck yeah or something. Or

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<v Speaker 2>if you didn't like somebody, you might even write something

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<v Speaker 2>nasty in the Valentine tim like I hate your guts

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, you know, because this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is even like a cough drop instead of a candy

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<v Speaker 1>with their Valentine.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, because you know, back in like the early seventies

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<v Speaker 2>when I was in like elementary starting almost ready to

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<v Speaker 2>go to junior high. I mean, you didn't worry about

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff. It was not an issue. But anyway, that

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<v Speaker 2>was always fun. And then like sometimes if a girl

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<v Speaker 2>liked you, or you liked a girl, or you had,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, at a little romantic interest in somebody, slip

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<v Speaker 2>a little polaroid in the No, not a polaroid, but

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<v Speaker 2>you give them like a little candy bar, maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>sucker or stick a gum or something in the in

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<v Speaker 2>the Valentine's And if you got candy, that was like

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<v Speaker 2>a big deal. Yeah, I was like, oh, I love you,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was sweet. I remember one Valentine's celebration in school,

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<v Speaker 2>and this was when I was in fourth grade, and

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<v Speaker 2>a girl gave me a Valentine and it was a

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<v Speaker 2>little slip of paper and it said do you like me?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes or no? And then there was do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to kiss after school? Yes or no? And that was

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<v Speaker 2>like my first kiss, and it was like we both

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<v Speaker 2>closed our eyes, our lips touched for like a millisecond,

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<v Speaker 2>and we both were so embarrassed that we just turned

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<v Speaker 2>around the walk the.

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<v Speaker 1>Other way, that's fourth grade.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, that's my Valentine's story.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice, but your mine's in fifth grade. I think, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a fifth grade, founth grade story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is involve kissing. No, I think maybe I

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<v Speaker 2>know what this involves.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you do. So we built our own boxes, and

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<v Speaker 1>to me at that age, I liked building stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>connects and legos were like my favorite thing. And we

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<v Speaker 1>had those connects that came with I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>for like a Ferris wheel, but it came with like

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<v Speaker 1>a little motor just had a like a stability spot

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<v Speaker 1>and like a driver spot. I think I just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of came to you with, like what if we made

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<v Speaker 1>a conveyor belt that had this motor kind of driving it?

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<v Speaker 1>And you're like, yeah, that'd be sweet. So so you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of helped me put together this pretty basic box.

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<v Speaker 1>But then it had a conveyor belt with some vinyl

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<v Speaker 1>like upholstery material we had.

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<v Speaker 2>From our motor home.

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<v Speaker 1>I th made the convey and we made the conveyor

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<v Speaker 1>belt out of that, and it just spun real slow

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<v Speaker 1>and you can go forward or backward. And yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>won that contest for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And then at might so people would put their Valentine

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<v Speaker 2>on it and then they turned it on and then

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<v Speaker 2>the conveyor would take it dump in.

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<v Speaker 1>The box and then klunk and fall in the box,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of industrial looking.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that that was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And at my like junior high graduation, my teacher, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when he's given me my little diploma thing or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>they give you in junior high before you go into

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<v Speaker 1>high school, I remember him saying, like, and Austin made

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<v Speaker 1>a Valentine's Day box with a conveyor belt on it

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<v Speaker 1>that actually worked. Yeah, that was pretty pretty awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>So as I got older and I met your mom

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<v Speaker 2>and we were engaged, we had our first Valentine together.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I was poor. I was a college student.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have any money, and so my big idea was, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get together and you know, maybe I'll buy us

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<v Speaker 2>a pizza. I think we'll watch a movie or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that in my apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>And the original Netflix and Jill, I guess it's called

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<v Speaker 1>like Blockbuster and Chill.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a VHS tape night rental. So your

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<v Speaker 2>mom comes up and is Valentine's Day and she has

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<v Speaker 2>like all these gifts that are wrapped and they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, heart shape, and and I think she bought

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<v Speaker 2>me a pair of pants, and I sure you know

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<v Speaker 2>all this stuff, and mom still gives me Valentine's Day,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, right, I you know, I'm just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I just got you a pizza. Then I'm gonna eat

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<v Speaker 2>part of And it didn't go over very well.

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<v Speaker 1>Was she mad? She?

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<v Speaker 2>I think she felt bad. I don't know if she

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<v Speaker 2>was mad, but she felt bad. And then I got

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<v Speaker 2>kind of upset because I didn't have any money, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was a double jerk, and so I went

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<v Speaker 2>out for a drive and to cool down, and I

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<v Speaker 2>ended up going to buy youner like hot Tomali's and

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<v Speaker 2>Junior Mints with my last two dollars. An And anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>we worked it out, and you know, at thirty six

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<v Speaker 2>years later, we're still going strong, even though I have

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<v Speaker 2>almost always failed completely in the Valentine's department, which kind

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<v Speaker 2>of makes me wonder about the whole profiteering racket commercialization

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<v Speaker 2>of Valentine's Day, the corporate holiday. Yeah, brow, you know

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<v Speaker 2>that Valentine's Day is the number one seller of cards. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>except for one Christmas Christmas Birthday. Christmas is the number

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<v Speaker 2>one holiday for giving cards. Valentine's Day is number two.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa funeral, So that's a pointless piece of trivia. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it is kind of like a consumer driven holiday. They're

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<v Speaker 1>like candies come out in heart shapes and it's huge flowers.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, could you imagine owning like a flower shop

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<v Speaker 1>or an edible arrangements or whatever around the Valentine's Day

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<v Speaker 1>you'd be.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure for like flower shops. It is probably the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest holiday of the year as far.

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<v Speaker 1>As one season where you get, you know, just a

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<v Speaker 1>big dump of just people pouring in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sure Valentine's Day is the biggest. And you

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<v Speaker 2>know they start setting this up right after the Christmas season,

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<v Speaker 2>right you start finding all the valentine stuff coming in.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you do you have a favorite kind of

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<v Speaker 2>Valentine's Day candy?

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<v Speaker 1>Just any reeses that's like seasonal, like you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>Reese's peanut butter cups, Okay, but if you get like

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<v Speaker 1>a Santa shaped REases or a heart shaped rases or

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<v Speaker 1>an Easter bunny, those are better. Yeah, so that would

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<v Speaker 1>be my favorite. Mom likes those little chalk like uh, those.

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<v Speaker 2>Little Valentine's candies that have the little sayings on them

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<v Speaker 2>or little words it says like you are too cool

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<v Speaker 2>or like hug me. Yes. And they're different kinds. One

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<v Speaker 2>kind she doesn't like and one kind she does. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't buy him anymore. I let her buy him

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<v Speaker 2>because I can't make a mistake. Yeah, yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>good move. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're gonna complain, you're gonna do it yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>So, you know, you think about Valentine's Day. What are

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<v Speaker 2>some of the weird traditions that surround Valentine's Day. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>just start it locally. What are the things that people

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<v Speaker 2>do right now around us and around Valentine's Day?

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<v Speaker 1>I think a weird one for a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like the love holiday. So people when they're

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<v Speaker 1>single on Oh, I have those wraps about Valentine's Day.

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<v Speaker 1>You should post those good people who are single on

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<v Speaker 1>Valentine's Day. They end up, you know, having like a

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<v Speaker 1>little single parties. Yeah, and if they kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>wallow and self pity or they celebrate their freedom.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, usually it's the former. If they're wanting for a

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<v Speaker 2>relationship or wanting out or maybe just got out of

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship that they didn't want, or maybe sad because

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<v Speaker 2>they're out of a relationship that they really want.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you there's a spike on Spotify of.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what else, what do people do? They go out

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<v Speaker 2>for dinner, right, you know, expensive dinner, so they spend

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of money on food. And it's always about

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<v Speaker 2>telling somebody that you love them. It's a love thing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. Microp be a good one to play after this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so maybe getting back to what we were talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that was rough. So yeah, it's always about, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>making sure that you're letting somebody know that you have

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<v Speaker 2>a potential love interest in them, right, or you do

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<v Speaker 2>something where you're like saying, hey, you're a pretty nice guy,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for your business. I'm going to give you a Valentine. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see businesses doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Weird.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be weird. That's under your profession.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, if you're a call girl or something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>be So it all kind of comes down to love

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't there like three kinds of love in the Greek Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>like the one that probably is most akin to Valentine's

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<v Speaker 2>Day is eros heros erotic love, you know, sexual passion.

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<v Speaker 2>then you have lutus, which is playful love ye the

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<v Speaker 2>side hustle. I guess when you have a gape, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a broad category of love for your fellow man

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<v Speaker 2>and people like bros. And then pragma, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>longstanding love that it's just gonna last forever like a dog. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess probably they had that kind of love. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the last one is a felucia, oh, felicia,

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<v Speaker 2>no felucia or felucia yeah, or love of the self ooh. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not trying to make a social commentary on

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people could say bye Felicia.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye Felicia. No, I love Felicia, which is myself myself. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because I mean, just look what's going on. If people

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<v Speaker 2>crap that's going on would be going on. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't about politics or or even morality. This is

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<v Speaker 2>about love. This is about Valentines. Love love. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we talked a little bit about what we do here

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States. We give each other cards and

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<v Speaker 2>we have other tradition going at the dinner chocolate chocolate.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what really chaps my biscuits? What those heart

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<v Speaker 1>that's something you might get from like a realty company or.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yes, that's true. They're very like yeah they're nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you just kind of like hand them out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you buy a bunch of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You got kind of a lacy wrap around. And anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I hate it when there's no like key or what

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<v Speaker 1>kin is this gonna be like a chocolate with like

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<v Speaker 2>It just goes to the show. We do a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of strange things in the United States to celebrate Valentine's Day, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But we aren't the only ones, right. People all over

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<v Speaker 2>the world celebrate Valentine's Day in very weird and strange ways.

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<v Speaker 2>One case in point, let's go to the Philippines.

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<v Speaker 1>Good place to start.

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<v Speaker 2>The Philippines is famous on Valentine's Day for having mass weddings,

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<v Speaker 2>so it wouldn't be weird. So you fly to the

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<v Speaker 2>other couples in a mass wedding ceremony.

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<v Speaker 1>That'd be kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, part of the fun is well, in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States, part of the fun is like putting everything

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the briders. I was like, this is my day.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been dreaming about this since I was twelve. Through that,

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're a parent of a bride or groom

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<v Speaker 1>then you might be thinking, man, I wish I would

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<v Speaker 1>have known about the Philippines.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd given a like one hundred bucks and say, go away.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to the Philippines, enjoy your honeymoon slash.

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<v Speaker 2>Barriage with six thousand other people. I'll get you. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>give you five hundred bucks, I'll buy your airplane tickets

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<v Speaker 2>to the Philippines, and there you go. Yeah, they never

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<v Speaker 2>come back. Yeah, you never know what happens in the Philippines.

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<v Speaker 1>What happens in the Philippines.

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<v Speaker 2>Days in the Philippins. You were gonna say that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he sent me up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, both Set and Spike.

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<v Speaker 2>There are other things that happen around the world that

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<v Speaker 2>are really strange of Valentine's Day. So, like in the

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<v Speaker 2>Czech Republic, people go around and they kiss hundred cherry blosses.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like like kind of like a mistletoe that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a mistletoe, but in under cherry blossoms.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh interesting. Supposedly, the only thing I've read is that

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<v Speaker 2>it gives the couple's good luck for their coming marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's not like you see somebody under a

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<v Speaker 1>cherry broth blossom, cherry brothel, cherry brossam. The cherry brothel

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like a legit bill. You see somebody under your

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<v Speaker 1>cherry bosom, brom whatever happens. It's not like you see

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<v Speaker 1>somebody under a cherry blossom and you go kiss them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you, as a couple make it a point

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<v Speaker 1>to go under the cherry blossoming kiss.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's an interesting thing. So February fourteenth historically, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna start talking about the deep history of Valentine's Day,

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<v Speaker 2>but the February fourteenth is kind of one of those

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<v Speaker 2>days where it's known as kind of the beginning of spring.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the day that the birds get together and

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<v Speaker 2>they mate in some traditions. So yeah, cherry blossoms would

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<v Speaker 2>fit right in with.

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<v Speaker 1>That new life. Cherry's getting blossomed everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and it took me a minute. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>good one. Just one minute. Yeah, that's what she said. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we've recovered. Okay, let's let's jump on a plane. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>go over to Wales. So over in Wales they do

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<v Speaker 2>something even more kind of strange.

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<v Speaker 1>Wales celebrate Valentine's Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they beach themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, hang out with.

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<v Speaker 2>Beaches in Wales. In Wales, they have a tradition on

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<v Speaker 2>Valentine's Day they pay homage to their patron Saint who

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<v Speaker 2>is Saint dwin Win Dwin Win. Yeah, And so what

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<v Speaker 2>they do is they exchange wooden spoons spoons, yeah, finally

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<v Speaker 2>carved wooden spoons.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally carved wooden spoons.

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<v Speaker 2>They spoon each other.

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<v Speaker 1>So unlike the people of the Czech Republic, they stop

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<v Speaker 1>at spooning yeah yeah, right, no, yeah, and Czech Republic

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<v Speaker 1>people they just keep going okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a strange thing that they do in else.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think that's kind of cool. I have

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<v Speaker 2>some pictures of those spoons. I'm gonna put them up

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<v Speaker 2>on the website because they're kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes you think of those random older people often had,

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<v Speaker 1>like a giant wooden spoon and a giant wooden force.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe that's why. Maybe I never thought of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I doubt it. But so what was that the dwin

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<v Speaker 1>when he was the patrons the patron.

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<v Speaker 2>Saint of lovers, Yeah, the Welsh patron Saint of lovers.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what miracle you have to perform.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure, but it probably has something to do

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<v Speaker 2>with something rising from the dead.

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<v Speaker 1>WHOA.

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<v Speaker 2>You just gotta be careful. You don't want to confuse

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<v Speaker 2>Dwin Win with the patron saint of the Fiagra.

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<v Speaker 1>For reals though, I did a little research on this

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<v Speaker 1>saint dwin win win win win win, and she was

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<v Speaker 1>a Welsh female saint and she fell in love with

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<v Speaker 1>a guy and he returned the feelings, and she basically

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<v Speaker 1>prayed that God would take away this desire so she

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<v Speaker 1>can continue with her fantatholic duties. Yeah, and apparently while

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<v Speaker 1>she was asleep or while she was awake and in

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<v Speaker 1>distress in the woods, an angel came to her with

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<v Speaker 1>a sweet potion that would kind of erase all of

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<v Speaker 1>her memories of her this lover love interest that she

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<v Speaker 1>and one wish was that her lover's thoughts and feelings

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<v Speaker 1>for her would be kind of like sooth and no more,

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<v Speaker 1>and that God would fulfill the hopes and dreams of

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<v Speaker 1>true lovers. And then the last wish that she would

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<v Speaker 1>never marry. And all of those came true and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why she's a saint.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, weird, that's very very unselfish, very non American. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>very non American.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the saint of Viagra.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no confusion there. Well, on that happy note,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go over to Denmark or Norway. They do something

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<v Speaker 2>kind of interesting there. So they get their love interest

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<v Speaker 2>an anonymous card and then they fill it out and

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<v Speaker 2>then they sign it with dot and there is one

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<v Speaker 2>dot for each letter of the person's name signing it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the person that receives it has to guess

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<v Speaker 2>who gave them the card, and if they guess correctly,

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<v Speaker 2>then they get a chocolate East Egg.

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<v Speaker 1>If they chocolate Easter egg, Yeah, they get tying into holidays.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess so yeah, weird. Well, you know, Easter

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<v Speaker 2>is close by and it's like spring and new birth

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<v Speaker 2>and all that, you love, all of that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>If they don't guess right, then they have to buy

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<v Speaker 2>a chocolate Easter Egg and give it to the person

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<v Speaker 2>to say they're sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so they kind of know or they find out later.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they find out. Yeah, after they guess. Apparently they

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<v Speaker 2>find out if they're correct. If they're correct, they get

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<v Speaker 2>the East Egg. If they are wrong, they have to

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<v Speaker 2>buy that person in the East Egg to say I'm sorry. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do one more. These are kind of fun. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>get on our love plane or love boat and let's

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<v Speaker 2>cruise on a over to South Africa. So in South Africa,

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<v Speaker 2>apparently it's not a lot about getting cards or receiving cards. There,

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<v Speaker 2>they do something else. They actually write the name of

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<v Speaker 2>somebody they care about or they have feelings for or

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<v Speaker 2>it to their sleeve and then they walk around literally

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<v Speaker 2>with the name of that person that they love their

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<v Speaker 2>heart on their sleeve. Crazy, that's correct. The whole idea

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<v Speaker 2>is that now it's public and it's out there, and

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<v Speaker 2>so now if the person who his name is written

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<v Speaker 2>on the sleeve returns that love, well, then maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the original Tinder app Yeah, exactly, wipe right

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<v Speaker 1>one year.

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<v Speaker 2>As well and then or if they swipe left, then

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<v Speaker 2>you you tear the heart off your sleeve and go

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<v Speaker 2>home crying. Yeah. So apparently they call this in South

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<v Speaker 2>Africa Luprekelia forli, which is really interesting because this is

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<v Speaker 2>the ancient name for a Roman festival that a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people believe is the actual start of what we

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<v Speaker 2>now call the Holiday of Valentines. Yeah, ancient, so I

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<v Speaker 2>think we should go there next. Let's go ancient, go

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<v Speaker 2>Greek let's go back.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go Roman in Rome. When in Rome do what

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<v Speaker 1>Romans do, but probably use protection.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, lots and lots of protection. So let's travel down

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<v Speaker 2>the Roman road a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we could pick any road.

424
00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:35.279
<v Speaker 2>Lead to Rome, that's what they say. So in ancient

425
00:21:35.359 --> 00:21:39.559
<v Speaker 2>Rome they practiced this festival called Lupercalia, and basically what

426
00:21:39.680 --> 00:21:43.079
<v Speaker 2>it was is the celebration for the founders of Rome,

427
00:21:43.079 --> 00:21:46.160
<v Speaker 2>which were Romulus and Remus and the she wolf that

428
00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:51.039
<v Speaker 2>saved them. She wolf. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the story

429
00:21:51.119 --> 00:21:56.279
<v Speaker 2>goes that the ancient king Emilius, or maybe it's however

430
00:21:56.319 --> 00:22:02.759
<v Speaker 2>you say it, he orders the execution of his twin nephews,

431
00:22:03.079 --> 00:22:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Romulus and Remus, Okay, and the reason is because their

432
00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:09.920
<v Speaker 2>mother was unfaithful. Oh yeah, so not a good deal.

433
00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:13.160
<v Speaker 2>He's going to have these young baby twin boys thrown

434
00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:15.880
<v Speaker 2>into the river. So on the way down, the servant

435
00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:19.359
<v Speaker 2>has pity on them and he makes a basket and

436
00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:20.559
<v Speaker 2>he sets them adrift in the.

437
00:22:20.480 --> 00:22:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Type of rivers.

438
00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:24.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very similar to the Moses story. So they

439
00:22:24.799 --> 00:22:27.960
<v Speaker 2>float down the river and then the basket gets caught

440
00:22:28.039 --> 00:22:30.839
<v Speaker 2>up in the roots of a tree, and then a

441
00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:34.319
<v Speaker 2>she wolf comes and the she wolf takes Romulus and

442
00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:37.319
<v Speaker 2>Remus out of the basket and nurtures them as her

443
00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:41.599
<v Speaker 2>own cubs. Kind of wolf. Yeah, yeah, very bitch. Yeah,

444
00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:44.240
<v Speaker 2>well maybe she was probably was nice. She was a

445
00:22:44.279 --> 00:22:46.480
<v Speaker 2>nice bitch. Yeah. And so just to.

446
00:22:46.440 --> 00:22:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Clarify, I mean like female dogs.

447
00:22:49.640 --> 00:22:51.559
<v Speaker 2>I know, but you still like the shock element the

448
00:22:51.640 --> 00:22:55.720
<v Speaker 2>word shock factor. Yeah. So anyway back to the story.

449
00:22:56.359 --> 00:22:59.279
<v Speaker 2>After the she wolf takes care of Romulus and Remus,

450
00:22:59.400 --> 00:23:03.599
<v Speaker 2>she basically and saves their life. And as they get older,

451
00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:06.440
<v Speaker 2>they venture out and eventually go back and they killed

452
00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:10.880
<v Speaker 2>the king that sentenced them to death. And after they're

453
00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:12.640
<v Speaker 2>done with all that, they go back to the den

454
00:23:12.720 --> 00:23:16.519
<v Speaker 2>where they were nurtured and they name it the lupercal Lupercow.

455
00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:20.599
<v Speaker 2>That's the founding of Rome, but it's also the name

456
00:23:20.720 --> 00:23:24.240
<v Speaker 2>of this festival. So in honor of that, these priests,

457
00:23:24.319 --> 00:23:28.000
<v Speaker 2>later on, the Luprici priest would basically have this festival.

458
00:23:28.079 --> 00:23:29.680
<v Speaker 2>It was bloody, it was gross, I mean, it was

459
00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:33.400
<v Speaker 2>sexually charged. It was this kind of crazy naked semi

460
00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:37.039
<v Speaker 2>naked ordeal. So what they would do is they would

461
00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:40.119
<v Speaker 2>take some goats, at least one, and they would take

462
00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:42.759
<v Speaker 2>a dog, at least one dog, and they would have

463
00:23:43.119 --> 00:23:48.960
<v Speaker 2>animal sacrifices. No, no, no, So they go to this

464
00:23:49.079 --> 00:23:52.200
<v Speaker 2>cave area, this den area. They would go in there

465
00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:55.359
<v Speaker 2>and they would kill and sacrifice the goats and the dog,

466
00:23:56.319 --> 00:23:59.440
<v Speaker 2>and then they would splatter blood on their naked bodies.

467
00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:02.200
<v Speaker 2>And then they'd run through the town and apparently they

468
00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:06.680
<v Speaker 2>would cut the hides of the goats into strips and

469
00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:08.240
<v Speaker 2>as they and then they would drench them in the

470
00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:10.759
<v Speaker 2>blood of the animal. And then as they ran through

471
00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:12.680
<v Speaker 2>the streets, they would look for women and they would

472
00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:16.000
<v Speaker 2>whip them with these strips of goat hide. Goat blood,

473
00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:18.920
<v Speaker 2>goat blood hide. Wow, and the women it was a

474
00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:21.559
<v Speaker 2>sign of being blessed. So the women would actually want

475
00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:24.119
<v Speaker 2>to be whipped with this bloody hide, and some of

476
00:24:24.119 --> 00:24:26.400
<v Speaker 2>them would actually bear themselves so that they could be

477
00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:29.720
<v Speaker 2>whipped with these things while they're naked. Interesting. Yeah, it

478
00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:33.079
<v Speaker 2>was a crazy ugly the party. Yeah, I mean, this

479
00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:37.319
<v Speaker 2>is a kind of vile, ugly, gross stuff. And so

480
00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:39.559
<v Speaker 2>this festival would take place. They'd have this big feast

481
00:24:39.960 --> 00:24:42.640
<v Speaker 2>and then after to the sacrifice, they'd have the feast

482
00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:45.400
<v Speaker 2>and all the whipping that had already taken place. Then

483
00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:47.200
<v Speaker 2>they would meet and a lot of times this was

484
00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:50.880
<v Speaker 2>all done like unclothed. Later on in Roman history it

485
00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:53.839
<v Speaker 2>became more civilized and they would wear clothes and instead

486
00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:56.640
<v Speaker 2>of being whipped nakedly, they'd get whipped on their hands,

487
00:24:56.680 --> 00:25:00.759
<v Speaker 2>and the priests would be more chaste. Yeah, I know,

488
00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:03.039
<v Speaker 2>it's a I mean, you read it some of the stuff,

489
00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:07.319
<v Speaker 2>you're like, really, this really happened. Yeah. So then after

490
00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:10.880
<v Speaker 2>the feast, they would basically have this giant lottery. It

491
00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:13.200
<v Speaker 2>was like a meat market for humans. So what they

492
00:25:13.200 --> 00:25:15.279
<v Speaker 2>would do is they would put their names in a

493
00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:18.519
<v Speaker 2>jar and then the men would draw name of a

494
00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:21.640
<v Speaker 2>woman and vice versa, and they would hook up with

495
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:24.799
<v Speaker 2>these people for the duration of the festival. So basically

496
00:25:24.880 --> 00:25:27.000
<v Speaker 2>it's like this is going to be your sex partner

497
00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:29.519
<v Speaker 2>for the rest of the festival. Crazy, and so that

498
00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:31.839
<v Speaker 2>would take place, and then a lot of times couples

499
00:25:31.880 --> 00:25:34.119
<v Speaker 2>sometimes would actually stay together that full year until the

500
00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:37.880
<v Speaker 2>next festival, and then they'd switch or maybe even fall

501
00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:40.240
<v Speaker 2>in love and stay together perpetually.

502
00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Via one man weapon family.

503
00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:46.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really weird. You read this stuff and you

504
00:25:46.599 --> 00:25:47.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of feel dirty, like you want to go and

505
00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:52.160
<v Speaker 2>take a bath or something. Because so later on things

506
00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:55.039
<v Speaker 2>kind of got not quite as wild in that luper

507
00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:59.319
<v Speaker 2>Kla festival, but it still took place on February fourteenth.

508
00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:04.359
<v Speaker 2>They wanted to be blessed by the gods for plentifulness

509
00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:06.640
<v Speaker 2>in the year to come and getting it on and

510
00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:09.000
<v Speaker 2>getting it on, you know, to be fertile and all

511
00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:09.440
<v Speaker 2>that kind.

512
00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:11.839
<v Speaker 1>Of stuff, and probably kind of like, what if we

513
00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:14.799
<v Speaker 1>tried to hook up this guy with this girl. Yeah,

514
00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:16.720
<v Speaker 1>probably had a little of that going on in it.

515
00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:17.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

516
00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:19.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean the whole drawing names and stuff. They were

517
00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:21.279
<v Speaker 1>probably trying to like, wouldn't it be great?

518
00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:23.759
<v Speaker 2>Like if you were like a total gomer and you

519
00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:26.599
<v Speaker 2>just you were ugly and and you never had a

520
00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:28.640
<v Speaker 2>chance at a girl, but that one time a year

521
00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:31.000
<v Speaker 2>where you got to put your name in there and

522
00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:33.279
<v Speaker 2>get drawn by lottery and hook up and maybe that

523
00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:36.119
<v Speaker 2>one time you get lucky, you get the most beautiful woman.

524
00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:39.519
<v Speaker 1>Darla Johanson freaking sweet in the whole city.

525
00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's terrible, but that's what took place as far

526
00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:45.599
<v Speaker 2>as the festival goes. I mean, I guess the earliest

527
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:48.759
<v Speaker 2>history of that is actually like sixth century BC, So

528
00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:51.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean this is really really an old thing, and

529
00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:55.279
<v Speaker 2>this carried on this festival was really popular through Roman times,

530
00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:57.720
<v Speaker 2>and then later when the Roman Empire kind of had

531
00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:01.279
<v Speaker 2>spread out, they were very very protective of the festival.

532
00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:05.599
<v Speaker 2>Then when Christianity came on the scene in the second century,

533
00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:08.279
<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of persecution and there was a

534
00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:10.880
<v Speaker 2>lot of people that were converting to Christianity, and they

535
00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:13.640
<v Speaker 2>were like saying, hey, wait, these festivals are pagan, they're bad,

536
00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:15.200
<v Speaker 2>bad stuff.

537
00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:17.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's about Saint.

538
00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Dwywin. No, I don't think she was around them. We're

539
00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:26.680
<v Speaker 2>like two hundred AD. Yeah, yeah, we were not there yet.

540
00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:30.960
<v Speaker 2>So this is before Constantine, you know, made Christianity and

541
00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:35.799
<v Speaker 2>Catholicism the official religion of Rome. Right prior to that,

542
00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:38.440
<v Speaker 2>the Christians were like, you know, they getting majorly hurt

543
00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:40.759
<v Speaker 2>by the emperors of Rome because they would There was

544
00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:42.720
<v Speaker 2>a lot of persecution. They were being killed and martyr

545
00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:46.279
<v Speaker 2>left and right. So it was during this time second

546
00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:50.720
<v Speaker 2>third century a d that we find the origination of

547
00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:54.680
<v Speaker 2>two and maybe even three different stories that kind of

548
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:58.279
<v Speaker 2>chronicle the life of the person that we now recognize

549
00:27:58.279 --> 00:28:01.359
<v Speaker 2>as Saint Valentine, who is the patron saint of Saint

550
00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Valentine's Day. So the story goes that a Catholic priest

551
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:08.559
<v Speaker 2>by the name of Valentine, and while he's there, the

552
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:12.400
<v Speaker 2>judge over his trial has a daughter who is stricken

553
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:15.759
<v Speaker 2>with blindness, and so he goes to Valentine because he

554
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:17.799
<v Speaker 2>knows Valentine's a Christian, and he says, hey, you know,

555
00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:20.200
<v Speaker 2>I will do anything you want if you can heal

556
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:23.119
<v Speaker 2>my daughter, and so he does. He basically prays for

557
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:27.200
<v Speaker 2>the girl and she is healed. And so this judge

558
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:29.920
<v Speaker 2>follows what Saint Valentine says and he removes all the

559
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:32.160
<v Speaker 2>idols and stuff from his house and he becomes a Christian.

560
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Then the emperor finds out about it, glorious. The second

561
00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:38.960
<v Speaker 2>is that who was I think Emperor Claudius finds out

562
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:41.759
<v Speaker 2>about it, and he ends up executing Saint Valentine. He

563
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:44.559
<v Speaker 2>chops off his head, so that's how he's martyred. So

564
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:46.200
<v Speaker 2>that's one of the stories. And then there's a second

565
00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:48.440
<v Speaker 2>story that's very similar to that. I think it's a

566
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:50.680
<v Speaker 2>boy and that one, but they're both healed of blindness,

567
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:53.039
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of you know, scholars think that they're

568
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:55.440
<v Speaker 2>probably the same story that just got kind of change

569
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:59.400
<v Speaker 2>from the body of Saint Valentine's buried along this road

570
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:01.680
<v Speaker 2>and then later they build a shrine over it. In

571
00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:05.559
<v Speaker 2>that story and another version of that same story, he

572
00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:08.720
<v Speaker 2>actually Valentine falls in love with the daughter of the

573
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:13.559
<v Speaker 2>judge and he prays for her. She's healed, and then

574
00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:17.640
<v Speaker 2>he ends up being martyred by Emperor Quadius. But on

575
00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:21.000
<v Speaker 2>the night before he is martyred, before it's heads chopped off,

576
00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:24.880
<v Speaker 2>he sends this daughter whose name was Julia, I believe

577
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:29.599
<v Speaker 2>a letter and he says, from your Valentine, okay, And

578
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:32.000
<v Speaker 2>so that's like something that's always on, like the modern

579
00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Valentine's that you get now from your Valentine.

580
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

581
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:40.119
<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of how the origins of Valentine's Day started,

582
00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:44.119
<v Speaker 2>where you have this festival, ancient Roman festival called Lupercalia.

583
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:48.200
<v Speaker 2>During that festival you have these martyrdoms of these guys

584
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:51.440
<v Speaker 2>named Valentine and the stories that go along with it

585
00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:53.559
<v Speaker 2>that by the time you get to the fifth century,

586
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:57.640
<v Speaker 2>you have this Pope Galacius the First who totally eliminated

587
00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:01.240
<v Speaker 2>the practice of Lupercalia and turns it into this this

588
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Saint Valentine's Day, and so from then on it became

589
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:08.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of a symbol of love. Oh okay, yeah, and

590
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:11.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't think originally it had anything to do with

591
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:16.079
<v Speaker 2>like sex or romance other than the Roman pagan festival

592
00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:19.240
<v Speaker 2>behind it, which was all about sex and fertility.

593
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>It was probably one of those very stereotypical pagan manipulations

594
00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>where they just kind of tie it in to fit

595
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:29.440
<v Speaker 1>something else real quick. They're like, oh, you guys are

596
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:34.359
<v Speaker 1>having a Christmas party. That's when Jesus was born. Now,

597
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:37.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, like it kind of like this kind of

598
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:40.079
<v Speaker 1>like makes something that might be around the time period

599
00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:42.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of fit into what the world's doing.

600
00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:44.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, totally. I think that's exactly right. I think you

601
00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:48.000
<v Speaker 2>have this new power centered in this religious belief system

602
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:52.240
<v Speaker 2>that's gaining in popularity, and you have this emperor Constantine

603
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:55.480
<v Speaker 2>who comes in and makes Christianity the official religion of

604
00:30:55.559 --> 00:31:00.519
<v Speaker 2>the whole Roman Empire, and so all these pagan things

605
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:03.119
<v Speaker 2>have to go away because they're evil, they're bad. So

606
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:07.359
<v Speaker 2>what they do is they start replacing those pagan festivals

607
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:10.160
<v Speaker 2>with religious ones. Yeah, what a better way to do it.

608
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:11.279
<v Speaker 2>We got two.

609
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Martyrs take it away from the people, like, oh, you've

610
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:16.960
<v Speaker 1>been celebrating this, but now you can't. He's got to

611
00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:20.759
<v Speaker 1>like you can celebrate it. But it's not about the

612
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:22.240
<v Speaker 1>wolf mother orgy.

613
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:25.599
<v Speaker 2>It's about it's about these two martyrs that died because

614
00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:30.279
<v Speaker 2>they were faithful. So anyway, it becomes kind of this

615
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:33.079
<v Speaker 2>mixed kind of thing because a lot of people don't

616
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:36.720
<v Speaker 2>want to give up their ancient belief festivals and feasts,

617
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:40.119
<v Speaker 2>and it ends up being some kind of weird hybrid.

618
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:43.000
<v Speaker 2>And then so now you get into the thirteenth fourteenth

619
00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:44.880
<v Speaker 2>century and people are handing out cards.

620
00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:48.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, it's better than whipping each other with bloody

621
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:52.519
<v Speaker 1>goat skin naked. I I guess, So what if you

622
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:55.759
<v Speaker 1>just did that randomly? Yeah, you know, instead of it

623
00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:59.599
<v Speaker 1>instead of your junior high box. Oh my gosh, just

624
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:03.359
<v Speaker 1>the classrooms started with people with the bloody goats getting.

625
00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:04.839
<v Speaker 2>Well, first you have to rip off all your clothes.

626
00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:10.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I hate to even think of that be hilarious

627
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:11.799
<v Speaker 1>though it would be disgusting.

628
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:14.799
<v Speaker 2>So there's another part of it that is kind of

629
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:18.680
<v Speaker 2>strange when you get into Roman mythology, and that is

630
00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:22.200
<v Speaker 2>this little character that is on a lot of Valentine's

631
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:25.960
<v Speaker 2>cards and we call him Cupid. So the whole origin

632
00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:30.319
<v Speaker 2>of Cupid is another kind of Roman mythology. Cupid is

633
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<v Speaker 2>the god of Love. He's the son of the goddess

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<v Speaker 2>of love, Venus Venus. Yeah, and so the Greek counterpart

635
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<v Speaker 2>is Eos Eos and the mother is Aphrodite. Yeah, they

636
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:45.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of go together. Yeah. So we've got in our

637
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:48.880
<v Speaker 2>mind this kind of cupid image of this little chubby

638
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:51.480
<v Speaker 2>cherub who has a little bow, little arrow, and he

639
00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:53.640
<v Speaker 2>runs around. He's all cute, mischievous.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of identify myself as Cupid, kind of chubby,

641
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:03.599
<v Speaker 1>kind of childish, runs around with a bow and arrow,

642
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:07.079
<v Speaker 1>and I pull back on my target and I loose

643
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<v Speaker 1>my arrow strike and I strike at the heart of

644
00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:14.680
<v Speaker 1>my target, and I love the way it tastes.

645
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it's just sick and wrong. It brings

646
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:20.720
<v Speaker 2>a terrible word picture to my mind.

647
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<v Speaker 1>You can just camevlage a diaper and the fluttering of

648
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<v Speaker 1>my weeds. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the actual story of Cuban is quite a bit

650
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<v Speaker 2>different than that. In the real story of Cupid or Eos,

651
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.400
<v Speaker 2>whichever you want to call him, is that there is

652
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<v Speaker 2>this beautiful, beautiful woman named Psyche. I mean, she's the

653
00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:44.200
<v Speaker 2>most beautiful woman on the planet. But she's not a goddess. Psyche. Yeah,

654
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:47.880
<v Speaker 2>she's not a goddess. She's human. In fact, she is

655
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:50.960
<v Speaker 2>so beautiful that she is kind of scorned by people

656
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:54.839
<v Speaker 2>because she's so intimidating because of her beauty. So the

657
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:57.599
<v Speaker 2>dad makes a deal that somehow that she's going to

658
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<v Speaker 2>get married to this like serpent creature, and so yeah,

659
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:03.079
<v Speaker 2>he puts her up on a rock because the guy's

660
00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:06.279
<v Speaker 2>bo's won't come around because she's just too dang beautiful, right,

661
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:09.719
<v Speaker 2>So he puts up on this rock, and the Aphrodite

662
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:13.199
<v Speaker 2>basically is concealing that this is actually a serpent that

663
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:16.519
<v Speaker 2>Psyche's gonna get married to because Aphrodite was jealous of

664
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<v Speaker 2>Psyche's beauty.

665
00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:17.639
<v Speaker 1>Right.

666
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Psyche is so beautiful that Aphrodite gets jealous because people

667
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<v Speaker 2>are worshiping her beauty rather than her own.

668
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:26.320
<v Speaker 1>She's all up in Aphrodite Psyche.

669
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<v Speaker 2>Right, right, So there's this like cat fight going on

670
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:33.599
<v Speaker 2>between the god and the mortal and so yeah, we do.

671
00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:39.480
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, she sends Cupid, her son to pure Psyche

672
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:41.360
<v Speaker 2>with an arrow, so she will fall in love with

673
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:46.360
<v Speaker 2>the serpents. Interesting, but when Cupid sees her, he's so

674
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:50.559
<v Speaker 2>enamored with Psyche that heid he does, he does to

675
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:54.280
<v Speaker 2>the point that he pierces himself so that he falls

676
00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:59.119
<v Speaker 2>in love with Psyche nice. The problem is mortals and

677
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:03.360
<v Speaker 2>gods can't mary right because one's immortal, one's not mortal,

678
00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:05.679
<v Speaker 2>and that's just not a good thing to do. So

679
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:09.239
<v Speaker 2>what they do is they end up having this relationship

680
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:14.519
<v Speaker 2>where Cupid carries Psyche off to this palace and basically

681
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:21.760
<v Speaker 2>he loves her, but he never lets Psyche see so

682
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:24.440
<v Speaker 2>they like have this relationship, but she never can look

683
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:27.400
<v Speaker 2>upon him, and he makes her promise that she will

684
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:29.920
<v Speaker 2>never look upon him and see who he is. Weird

685
00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:33.599
<v Speaker 2>because she thinks he's a serpent, right, she thinks she

686
00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:38.880
<v Speaker 2>married a serpent, but really it's the god of love, Cupid.

687
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:43.360
<v Speaker 2>He's keeping it secret for the protection of themselves, so

688
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:44.480
<v Speaker 2>it's all good.

689
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Anyway.

690
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Psyche ends up getting knocked up. She's pregnant and she

691
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:51.440
<v Speaker 2>wants but she doesn't know that. She thinks it's a

692
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:54.760
<v Speaker 2>serpent baby, and so she decides she's going to sneak

693
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:57.719
<v Speaker 2>a peek at at her husband one night, So she

694
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:00.480
<v Speaker 2>gets a lamp and she goes over and luminates and

695
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:04.639
<v Speaker 2>finds out will lo and behold, it's not a serpent, aid,

696
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:08.440
<v Speaker 2>it's the God of love. It's eos right, and oh

697
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:11.079
<v Speaker 2>my gosh, things happen. And anyway, some oil from the

698
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:13.960
<v Speaker 2>lamp falls on Cupid and he burns a little bit,

699
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:16.199
<v Speaker 2>not bad, just a little bit. He gets a little burned,

700
00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:19.000
<v Speaker 2>and he gets mad. He feels like he's betrayed, and

701
00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:21.360
<v Speaker 2>he runs off because she promised that she never would look,

702
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:25.079
<v Speaker 2>but she did. She cheated. He runs off, and of course,

703
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:28.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, Psyche is just totally totally discouraged and depressed

704
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:31.599
<v Speaker 2>by this whole deal. And she's pregnant. Yeah, yeah, she

705
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:34.840
<v Speaker 2>canna be a single moment. So she goes and she

706
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:37.039
<v Speaker 2>wants to find out is there any way that she

707
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:42.599
<v Speaker 2>can marry Cupid and Aphrodite or Venus with depending if

708
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:46.840
<v Speaker 2>your Roman and Greek Afridinas Afridinas. She comes up with

709
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:50.119
<v Speaker 2>this wicked plan that will make it so that Psyche

710
00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:52.639
<v Speaker 2>will never be able to marry her son. And she

711
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:54.880
<v Speaker 2>comes up with these four challenges that she has to

712
00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:58.960
<v Speaker 2>do that are impossible. One of my think is for Psyche,

713
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:02.079
<v Speaker 2>in order for Psyche to you know, get hooked back

714
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:04.360
<v Speaker 2>up again with Cupid, she has to do these four things.

715
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:06.679
<v Speaker 2>One of them was she had to sort different types

716
00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:09.480
<v Speaker 2>of grains. Yeah, all the different seeds and grains into

717
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:11.559
<v Speaker 2>different piles, and it was like a bunch of it

718
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:14.960
<v Speaker 2>and it was impossible task. While the ants help her,

719
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:17.599
<v Speaker 2>and they helped sort all these rains out, and so

720
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:18.360
<v Speaker 2>she passed.

721
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:21.440
<v Speaker 1>The yeah yeah, going upon the animal friends.

722
00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:24.519
<v Speaker 2>Exactly so that happens. I mean, almost all of these

723
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:27.159
<v Speaker 2>have like a Walt Disney princess kind of ye kind

724
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:31.199
<v Speaker 2>of tower. It's very similar. I mean it's all the same. Right.

725
00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:34.119
<v Speaker 2>So the second one is she had to go get

726
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:37.039
<v Speaker 2>like the fleece from these mountain goats cool or mountain

727
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:37.559
<v Speaker 2>sheep or.

728
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Whatever it was with Cupid zero.

729
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:42.239
<v Speaker 2>No, what was crazy is that the herd would attack

730
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:44.519
<v Speaker 2>anybody that got closer and they would trample him to death

731
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:48.199
<v Speaker 2>and kill him. And so some goddess or some faerry

732
00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:51.159
<v Speaker 2>or somebody tells her no, no, no, wait, and then

733
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:53.679
<v Speaker 2>just go pick up the wool that got stuck to

734
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:56.920
<v Speaker 2>the briars. So she collects all that and takes it

735
00:37:56.960 --> 00:37:59.559
<v Speaker 2>and she passes that test. There was a third one

736
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:01.239
<v Speaker 2>in there, some I don't remember what it is, but

737
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:03.480
<v Speaker 2>the fourth one was where she has to go to

738
00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:07.360
<v Speaker 2>hell and she has to get like this secret of

739
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:10.800
<v Speaker 2>beauty from this goddess of the underworld. So to do that,

740
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:13.800
<v Speaker 2>she has to cross No, no, it wasn't her starts

741
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:16.039
<v Speaker 2>of the pee, like I don't know my Greek mythology.

742
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:20.719
<v Speaker 2>We should talk about that sometimes sometimes all the strange gods. Yeah,

743
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:23.239
<v Speaker 2>but anyway, so she goes and she has to cross

744
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:25.760
<v Speaker 2>the river stick she gets money and somebody tells her

745
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:27.840
<v Speaker 2>to get take money with Tory the fairy Man. She

746
00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:30.079
<v Speaker 2>goes across. She gets this box. She brings it back

747
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:34.800
<v Speaker 2>and it's supposedly this this beauty, the secret of this,

748
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:38.239
<v Speaker 2>this goddess's beauty of the underworld, and she's taking it

749
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:41.159
<v Speaker 2>to aphred Iity to earn the right to marry her son.

750
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:44.280
<v Speaker 2>But she decides she's going to peek inside the box.

751
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:46.199
<v Speaker 2>She wasn't supposed to look at it. But when she

752
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:49.719
<v Speaker 2>opens the box, it's like death or sleep is inside

753
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:52.159
<v Speaker 2>this and she falls asleep like sleeping beauty. She can't

754
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:57.239
<v Speaker 2>wake up, falls around. So as she's there, dead or

755
00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:59.880
<v Speaker 2>sleeping and whatever she is, Cupid comes to her rest

756
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:04.760
<v Speaker 2>because boy he loves her, and then he realizes it's

757
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:07.559
<v Speaker 2>stupid that they couldn't be married just because she's mortal

758
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:11.800
<v Speaker 2>and easy mortal. He ends up saving her takes her

759
00:39:11.840 --> 00:39:15.280
<v Speaker 2>to his father, who I think is Zeus or somebody

760
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:18.760
<v Speaker 2>like that, and and he mixes a potion of ambrosia

761
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:21.639
<v Speaker 2>and gives it to Psyche and she drinks it, and

762
00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:25.440
<v Speaker 2>lo and behold, Psyche becomes immortal. She becomes a goddess.

763
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:31.960
<v Speaker 2>So then eos are Cupid and Psyche live happily ever after.

764
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Nice I was thinking she'd peek in there and it

765
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:37.199
<v Speaker 1>was a mirror and like a little sticker that said

766
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:40.360
<v Speaker 1>the beauty was within you all along.

767
00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:45.639
<v Speaker 2>That would have been a better and then she could

768
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:47.599
<v Speaker 2>have triumphantly just marched up to keep and said, hey,

769
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:49.440
<v Speaker 2>you don't want all this fine.

770
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:51.719
<v Speaker 1>I think Cupid wanted all of it, but he couldn't

771
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:54.440
<v Speaker 1>have it because of weird legalistic.

772
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:58.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, legalistic god religions. So anyway, that's the story

773
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:00.719
<v Speaker 2>of Cupid. I don't know how he he got all

774
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:03.199
<v Speaker 2>mixed up in the whole car thing, other than the romance.

775
00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:06.199
<v Speaker 2>He's known as the god of Love that he pierces

776
00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:09.199
<v Speaker 2>people with love and then they are destined.

777
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:10.960
<v Speaker 1>To be It's kind of like a cool little thing

778
00:40:11.079 --> 00:40:14.039
<v Speaker 1>because you don't really know why. You see somebody and

779
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:17.320
<v Speaker 1>you're like, WHOA. But if you imagine like a little

780
00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:22.639
<v Speaker 1>guy like shooting a little heart shaped arrow at you.

781
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:25.000
<v Speaker 1>And I think if Tom and Jerry kind.

782
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:27.639
<v Speaker 2>Of for some reason the cat in the mouth, Yeah,

783
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:28.079
<v Speaker 2>and he like.

784
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Sees the cute cat and then like it and then

785
00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:37.199
<v Speaker 1>he's like into hearts and stuff. That's what I feel.

786
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, that kind of happens to people, and

787
00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:43.239
<v Speaker 2>sometimes it's what do they call unrequited love, where you

788
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:45.280
<v Speaker 2>fall in love with somebody that's never going to return

789
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:47.719
<v Speaker 2>that love, and some people live their whole life that way,

790
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:50.400
<v Speaker 2>and they will do tremendous acts of love for that

791
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:53.559
<v Speaker 2>person without even the hope or possibility of ever getting

792
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:56.280
<v Speaker 2>that love return to the right. I guess that's kind

793
00:40:56.320 --> 00:40:58.119
<v Speaker 2>of the way we are with our children and things.

794
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:03.639
<v Speaker 2>It's unconditional. Just into the stand by Stephen King. Stephen

795
00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:07.199
<v Speaker 2>King almost said Steven Spielberg. No, he does different, a

796
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:08.079
<v Speaker 2>little bit different.

797
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:12.280
<v Speaker 1>But there's a guy, Harold Louder, and he falls in

798
00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:15.079
<v Speaker 1>love with Franny, one of the main characters, and Franny

799
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:17.000
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have the same love, but he's like kind of

800
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:19.639
<v Speaker 1>obsessed with her. That's what I thought of, Like he's

801
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:22.599
<v Speaker 1>obsessed and then he gets unobsessed pretty quick.

802
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:24.480
<v Speaker 2>She turns into a devil or something.

803
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:29.000
<v Speaker 1>No, a different lady gives him the biscuits.

804
00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:33.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that'll do it. Yeah, he found a different biscuits,

805
00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:34.800
<v Speaker 2>apply biscuits.

806
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:36.639
<v Speaker 1>See it. Well.

807
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:39.280
<v Speaker 2>One thing that's weird about this whole love thing is

808
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:42.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't really think that you get shot by an

809
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:47.599
<v Speaker 2>arrow and then you're hopelessly loved. I think there's infatuation

810
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:50.239
<v Speaker 2>and lust kind of acts more like a bow and arrow.

811
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:52.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, it hits you and you're like instantly like

812
00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:56.440
<v Speaker 2>and you're almost doing stupid things because it's all passion driven.

813
00:41:57.199 --> 00:41:59.280
<v Speaker 2>But I think real love is like something that you

814
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:02.400
<v Speaker 2>have to determine in your mind and your heart that

815
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:05.159
<v Speaker 2>you're going to follow and do regardless of whether it

816
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:08.599
<v Speaker 2>feels good or not. Sometimes you just do it and

817
00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:11.679
<v Speaker 2>hopefully you get some of the other stuff too, But

818
00:42:11.880 --> 00:42:14.840
<v Speaker 2>baseline is that it's totally something you have to work

819
00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:15.559
<v Speaker 2>at and build.

820
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Love is the bow, the arrow is just the good stuff.

821
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:25.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's a really bad metaphor, it it is,

822
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:29.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but it's intentional, Yeah, it is. I

823
00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:31.679
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I've everthing so, I.

824
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:33.519
<v Speaker 2>Don't know if I ever felt like I got shot

825
00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:36.800
<v Speaker 2>by Cuban now unless he shot me an arrow.

826
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:39.159
<v Speaker 1>Of lust lust, I don't want to hear about that.

827
00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:42.320
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you'll be walking when I was younger, this doesn't

828
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:44.360
<v Speaker 2>happen anymore because I only have eyes for my wife.

829
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Now he bails those eyes. Always says that. But no,

830
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:49.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, I remember, like in high school and stuff

831
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:51.599
<v Speaker 2>in you'd be walking through the halls and some girls

832
00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:53.880
<v Speaker 2>walk by and it was like, man, you got shot

833
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:57.239
<v Speaker 2>with love booty. But it wasn't. It was like wow,

834
00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:00.519
<v Speaker 2>and maybe it's hormones. Maybe maybe you were shot format

835
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:02.320
<v Speaker 2>that's what the tip of the arrow is.

836
00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:04.639
<v Speaker 1>It's a hormone, the dumb orphins.

837
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's crazy. Valentine's Day is weird holiday because the

838
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:13.079
<v Speaker 2>origins of it are so odd. Yeah, and then it

839
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:15.559
<v Speaker 2>was commercialized and so now it's not so much about

840
00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:16.639
<v Speaker 2>what the ancient things were.

841
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:19.679
<v Speaker 1>It's about proving a point almost to somebody.

842
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:22.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Now, if you don't do it, you're in trouble.

843
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:24.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's true. And if you can't do it because

844
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:27.159
<v Speaker 1>you're single, then you're supposed to be sad and depressed.

845
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:31.320
<v Speaker 2>I wonder how many people go get counseling after Valentine's Day,

846
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:35.920
<v Speaker 2>right because of unmet expectations by themselves or somebody else.

847
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah too. Well, and you watch all the movies around

848
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:42.480
<v Speaker 2>about Valentine's Day or love, and it's all about this

849
00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:46.119
<v Speaker 2>romance stuff that like that's why there's a Hallmark channel. Yeah,

850
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:49.639
<v Speaker 2>there's like expectations of what love is supposed to look like.

851
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:53.679
<v Speaker 1>That's the channel pretty much founded off of greeting cards.

852
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:57.440
<v Speaker 2>True, yeah, yeah, exactly. The weird there's a conspiracy there.

853
00:43:57.440 --> 00:43:59.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure if we do about that, we can do

854
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:01.639
<v Speaker 1>an episod good marketing.

855
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:06.639
<v Speaker 2>Strange TV cards.

856
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:10.400
<v Speaker 1>So we got a good background of Valentine's Day and

857
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:14.719
<v Speaker 1>everything's kind of working into this weird god versus this

858
00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:17.719
<v Speaker 1>god and he does this thing so this person can

859
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:22.159
<v Speaker 1>become a god in Roman mythology, right, Roman and Greek,

860
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:25.639
<v Speaker 1>which kind of brings up all this weird stuff in

861
00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:32.559
<v Speaker 1>Roman Greek Norse between was Cupid and Eos, they're connected,

862
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:35.719
<v Speaker 1>they're the same, They're the same in this little story

863
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:39.000
<v Speaker 1>and Aphrodite and Venus and who are they connected to?

864
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Who are they connected?

865
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:45.079
<v Speaker 2>You can pretty much take most of the pantheon of Greek, Norse, Roman,

866
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:48.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean all of them, and you can tie them together.

867
00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:51.280
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes they don't fit exactly right. But you can almost

868
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:54.480
<v Speaker 2>draw lines across each one of the pantheons to the

869
00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:55.280
<v Speaker 2>same players.

870
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:58.679
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they're like a combination of two different ones. Yeah, yeah,

871
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:00.000
<v Speaker 1>or something. Yeah.

872
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:01.559
<v Speaker 2>It's weird, isn't it. And they have a lot of

873
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:03.679
<v Speaker 2>the same themes. I mean, some of them are a

874
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:07.880
<v Speaker 2>little more human like, Like I think the Greek gods

875
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:09.840
<v Speaker 2>are much more human like in the way that they're

876
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:13.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, having motions, and they do naughty things. They

877
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:14.280
<v Speaker 2>cheat on each.

878
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:17.119
<v Speaker 1>Other, things like that, don't know, because like Norse gods

879
00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:20.079
<v Speaker 1>do the same thing. They're they're always getting in little

880
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:23.800
<v Speaker 1>bouts like this brother hates this one, and this guy

881
00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:26.840
<v Speaker 1>slept with this guy's wife and so that guy banished

882
00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:27.400
<v Speaker 1>this guy.

883
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:30.480
<v Speaker 2>And it's all kinds of weird. That is really weird,

884
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:34.559
<v Speaker 2>and it's fascinating. And I think that's why you're saying

885
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:36.880
<v Speaker 2>this is because we're planning on doing a series of

886
00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:39.320
<v Speaker 2>episodes on strange.

887
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:41.199
<v Speaker 1>Gods and god and goddesses.

888
00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I mean they're gods.

889
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, they're easier to look at.

890
00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:48.519
<v Speaker 2>Ones, not all of them. I heard there's this one

891
00:45:48.559 --> 00:45:52.679
<v Speaker 2>called Medusa, Medusa douce. She just one look turns this

892
00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:53.519
<v Speaker 2>stone don't.

893
00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:54.639
<v Speaker 1>But maybe that's a good thing.

894
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:56.280
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think so.

895
00:45:56.679 --> 00:45:58.960
<v Speaker 1>But isn't she's supposed to be like glussful and you

896
00:45:59.000 --> 00:45:59.480
<v Speaker 1>look at her.

897
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:00.639
<v Speaker 2>Maybe not.

898
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Maybe she sees herself. I don't know. Maybe we'll have

899
00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:05.320
<v Speaker 1>to look it up and tell everybody about it on

900
00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:05.880
<v Speaker 1>our podcast.

901
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:08.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, what happens is they whip out a mirror

902
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:10.320
<v Speaker 2>and she sees herself and turns herself to stuff.

903
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:11.400
<v Speaker 1>They just whip it out.

904
00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:13.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think it was planned. Maybe it

905
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:15.519
<v Speaker 2>was a shield. They have a shield and she saw

906
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:16.679
<v Speaker 2>a reflection of the shield.

907
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:17.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

908
00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:20.079
<v Speaker 2>Or no, maybe she was able to see where they

909
00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:21.360
<v Speaker 2>were by looking at the reflection.

910
00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe Narcissus.

911
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:28.719
<v Speaker 2>And then there's this whole other tie with gods, with

912
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:33.159
<v Speaker 2>the eloheen gods that are in the Hebrew legends of

913
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:37.360
<v Speaker 2>like the Watchers and the fallen Ones. Yeah, it's very interesting.

914
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:39.840
<v Speaker 2>All of this stuff kind of ties together tie in.

915
00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's crazy. Hercules Ands and Zeus and Odin and

916
00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:47.400
<v Speaker 1>all those guys.

917
00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:50.599
<v Speaker 2>We talked a little bit about the weird stuff, and

918
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:53.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry that we're not very romantic or you know,

919
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:55.880
<v Speaker 2>if we sucked you in thinking about we're going to

920
00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:59.000
<v Speaker 2>be all romantic and romantic stories and then we all

921
00:46:59.039 --> 00:46:59.280
<v Speaker 2>we did.

922
00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:02.000
<v Speaker 1>We're both married, so romance is pretty.

923
00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Much on the window. If I put that in the podcast,

924
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:11.920
<v Speaker 2>you are dead. That's okay. Then she will when somebody tells.

925
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Her, parents will tell her about it.

926
00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:17.039
<v Speaker 2>You hear what he said. Yeah, maybe maybe I won't

927
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:21.239
<v Speaker 2>do that unless you're mean, and then I will. Well,

928
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:25.480
<v Speaker 2>there are stories of like people doing incredibly romantic things

929
00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:27.639
<v Speaker 2>on Valentine's Day. We can do that next year. Yeah,

930
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:29.440
<v Speaker 2>that'll be next year's Next year we'll go out of

931
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:32.239
<v Speaker 2>the weird and we'll talk about strange dudes who are

932
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:33.079
<v Speaker 2>totally whooped.

933
00:47:33.559 --> 00:47:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Women did nice women can be whipped.

934
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, awesome. On that happy note, I hope

935
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:44.360
<v Speaker 2>everybody has a great Valentine's Day, and then join us

936
00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:47.159
<v Speaker 2>in for our next series on strange Gods. It should

937
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:50.000
<v Speaker 2>be fascinating. There's got to be tons of cool stuff there, yeah,

938
00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:50.840
<v Speaker 2>drange stuff.

939
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:53.480
<v Speaker 1>And if you guys come up with some good Valentine's

940
00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Day stories, maybe it'll be a good opportunity for you

941
00:47:55.880 --> 00:48:00.559
<v Speaker 1>guys to reminisce on past Valentine's Days or make new memories,

942
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:02.840
<v Speaker 1>but maybe send them into us and we can touch

943
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:04.280
<v Speaker 1>on them like next year.

944
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.239
<v Speaker 2>And I would also say, if you do have a

945
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:09.159
<v Speaker 2>loved one that you would like to reach out to

946
00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:11.480
<v Speaker 2>and express your love for, I mean, what a better

947
00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:15.239
<v Speaker 2>day than February fourteenth? Historically you've got like all that

948
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:16.480
<v Speaker 2>historical background there.

949
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Just don't whip them with bloddy goat skin.

950
00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:22.440
<v Speaker 2>No, don't do that, that's not your thing. But do

951
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:25.440
<v Speaker 2>the traditional thing. Do something untraditional, you know, just maybe

952
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:27.000
<v Speaker 2>walk up, give them a hug and say, man, I

953
00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:29.639
<v Speaker 2>love you. Yeah, you never go wrong.

954
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Doing them unless you're married. Don't end it right there.

955
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't you better get something better?

956
00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Friends, some chocolate or like a reservation somewhere.

957
00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:40.519
<v Speaker 2>Yes, there are stores everywhere with chok full kinds of

958
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:43.440
<v Speaker 2>weares and stuff that you can use to make your

959
00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:46.719
<v Speaker 2>loved one feel special. I mean teddy bear and embrace

960
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:49.920
<v Speaker 2>the teddy Bears, you know, dudes kind of like buying

961
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:54.000
<v Speaker 2>lingerie and stuff for there oh self, Yeah, what do

962
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:54.960
<v Speaker 2>you gratifying?

963
00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

964
00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah, I'll go shopping for my wife or

965
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:00.280
<v Speaker 2>a Valentin to day and get her launderer, which really

966
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:04.840
<v Speaker 2>I want, or like buying her a TV for her birthday, yeah,

967
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:10.199
<v Speaker 2>or a mop for Christmas don't do that, all right, Well,

968
00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:13.639
<v Speaker 2>let's let's close this out, buddy. I think people get the.

969
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Hit, ye ye, I think they get it.

970
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:16.239
<v Speaker 2>They get it.

971
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Valentine's Day kind of debauchery, makes with a little bit

972
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:25.519
<v Speaker 1>of Catholicism, ends in a little bit of weird Roman

973
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:26.360
<v Speaker 1>God stuff.

974
00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:28.719
<v Speaker 2>You can get it on Valentine's Day.

975
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So join us next time, and hopefully I'm not sick.

976
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:40.519
<v Speaker 1>But join us next time for some cold drinks and

977
00:49:40.639 --> 00:50:01.800
<v Speaker 1>some strange conversationss