Speaker 1: Hey guys, Hey guys, and welcome to what episode are
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Speaker 2: Twenty seven, twenties seven of a Strange Thing podcast. I'm
Speaker 2: Mike and I'm sick, sick Austin sick Austin, and we
Speaker 2: are your host in the Strangers episode. Yeah, Austin's got
Speaker 2: a head cold.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't have the COVID I got tested. It's
Speaker 1: not COVID, So COVID. You guys can put your headphones
Speaker 1: back on. I'm not going to infect you.
Speaker 2: Yep. He's just got some kind of get a little
Speaker 2: extra nasal. That made you sound a little different. You're
Speaker 2: resonating different. Yeah, it sounds stuffy, but hey, which is
Speaker 2: kind of good because this topic has to do with
Speaker 2: stuffing envelopes? What? Yeah, because what are we going to
Speaker 2: be talking about?
Speaker 1: And this topic also makes me sick.
Speaker 2: It makes you sick, hey, or get you in trouble?
Speaker 2: Yeah right, It's got me in trouble for many, many years. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So what is their topic? V Day? No, not VD
Speaker 2: Valentine's Day. Oh Valentine's Day. I thought you were talking
Speaker 2: venereal disease, I said, day. It has a lot in common, Yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot of venereal diseases get transmitted on this day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, on this topic, venereal diseases like Valentine's Day come.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, or you know, in ancient times this was
Speaker 2: kind of a super spreader day for types of venereal disease,
Speaker 2: super spread of super spreader. But anyway, we're getting ahead
Speaker 2: of ourselves. So, yeah, today we're going to be talking
Speaker 2: about Valentine's Day. And there are a lot of strange
Speaker 2: things that surround Valentine's Day, and we thought, hey, let's
Speaker 2: do a one off here before we go to our
Speaker 2: next big series on a cool topic.
Speaker 1: And if I if I'm thinking right, which I might
Speaker 1: not be because of the night quill and stuff, this
Speaker 1: topic might kind of tie into our next topic.
Speaker 2: I think we will get there. I think it actually
Speaker 2: ties in very naturally. Yes, totally. But we don't want
Speaker 2: to get ahead of ourselves, no, sir, So I thought
Speaker 2: to start out with it might be kind of nice
Speaker 2: for us just to talk a little bit about maybe
Speaker 2: some of our own experiences with Valentine's Day. Perfect yea,
Speaker 2: does that sound good? Yeah, sounds good.
Speaker 1: It's amiliating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just remember, so Valentine's Day when you think
Speaker 2: about it, back when you were a little kid and
Speaker 2: you would go to school and you'd have to fill
Speaker 2: out like thirty or forty Valentine's to give away to
Speaker 2: all your friends in your classroom, because you do the
Speaker 2: Valentine swap and you had to be nice and you
Speaker 2: give it to all the people in your class and
Speaker 2: then you'd make Valentine's boxes, and sometimes that was even
Speaker 2: like part of the fun of it was.
Speaker 1: That was my favorite part for sure.
Speaker 2: And sometimes it even had like contests to see you
Speaker 2: could create the coolest Valentine's box?
Speaker 1: Are you coming up with the story I'm thinking of
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 2: Well, no, I know that story because I helped you
Speaker 2: with it, But I'm just remembering as a kid, it
Speaker 2: was quite exciting. Yeah, and then back then it wasn't
Speaker 2: quite as politically correct as it is nowadays. So sometimes
Speaker 2: you would not give people you didn't like Valentine even
Speaker 2: though you were supposed to suck yeah or something. Or
Speaker 2: if you didn't like somebody, you might even write something
Speaker 2: nasty in the Valentine tim like I hate your guts
Speaker 2: or whatever, you know, because this.
Speaker 1: Is even like a cough drop instead of a candy
Speaker 1: with their Valentine.
Speaker 2: Right, because you know, back in like the early seventies
Speaker 2: when I was in like elementary starting almost ready to
Speaker 2: go to junior high. I mean, you didn't worry about
Speaker 2: that stuff. It was not an issue. But anyway, that
Speaker 2: was always fun. And then like sometimes if a girl
Speaker 2: liked you, or you liked a girl, or you had,
Speaker 2: you know, at a little romantic interest in somebody, slip
Speaker 2: a little polaroid in the No, not a polaroid, but
Speaker 2: you give them like a little candy bar, maybe a
Speaker 2: sucker or stick a gum or something in the in
Speaker 2: the Valentine's And if you got candy, that was like
Speaker 2: a big deal. Yeah, I was like, oh, I love you,
Speaker 2: and it was sweet. I remember one Valentine's celebration in school,
Speaker 2: and this was when I was in fourth grade, and
Speaker 2: a girl gave me a Valentine and it was a
Speaker 2: little slip of paper and it said do you like me?
Speaker 2: Yes or no? And then there was do you want
Speaker 2: to kiss after school? Yes or no? And that was
Speaker 2: like my first kiss, and it was like we both
Speaker 2: closed our eyes, our lips touched for like a millisecond,
Speaker 2: and we both were so embarrassed that we just turned
Speaker 2: around the walk the.
Speaker 1: Other way, that's fourth grade.
Speaker 2: So I mean, that's my Valentine's story.
Speaker 1: Nice, but your mine's in fifth grade. I think, oh,
Speaker 1: you have a fifth grade, founth grade story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is involve kissing. No, I think maybe I
Speaker 2: know what this involves.
Speaker 1: Yeah you do. So we built our own boxes, and
Speaker 1: to me at that age, I liked building stuff and
Speaker 1: connects and legos were like my favorite thing. And we
Speaker 1: had those connects that came with I think it was
Speaker 1: for like a Ferris wheel, but it came with like
Speaker 1: a little motor just had a like a stability spot
Speaker 1: and like a driver spot. I think I just kind
Speaker 1: of came to you with, like what if we made
Speaker 1: a conveyor belt that had this motor kind of driving it?
Speaker 1: And you're like, yeah, that'd be sweet. So so you
Speaker 1: kind of helped me put together this pretty basic box.
Speaker 1: But then it had a conveyor belt with some vinyl
Speaker 1: like upholstery material we had.
Speaker 2: From our motor home.
Speaker 1: I th made the convey and we made the conveyor
Speaker 1: belt out of that, and it just spun real slow
Speaker 1: and you can go forward or backward. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: won that contest for sure.
Speaker 2: And then at might so people would put their Valentine
Speaker 2: on it and then they turned it on and then
Speaker 2: the conveyor would take it dump in.
Speaker 1: The box and then klunk and fall in the box,
Speaker 1: kind of industrial looking.
Speaker 2: I remember that that was fun.
Speaker 1: And at my like junior high graduation, my teacher, you know,
Speaker 1: when he's given me my little diploma thing or whatever
Speaker 1: they give you in junior high before you go into
Speaker 1: high school, I remember him saying, like, and Austin made
Speaker 1: a Valentine's Day box with a conveyor belt on it
Speaker 1: that actually worked. Yeah, that was pretty pretty awesome.
Speaker 2: So as I got older and I met your mom
Speaker 2: and we were engaged, we had our first Valentine together.
Speaker 2: And you know, I was poor. I was a college student.
Speaker 2: I didn't have any money, and so my big idea was, hey,
Speaker 2: we'll get together and you know, maybe I'll buy us
Speaker 2: a pizza. I think we'll watch a movie or something
Speaker 2: like that in my apartment.
Speaker 1: And the original Netflix and Jill, I guess it's called
Speaker 1: like Blockbuster and Chill.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a VHS tape night rental. So your
Speaker 2: mom comes up and is Valentine's Day and she has
Speaker 2: like all these gifts that are wrapped and they're like,
Speaker 2: you know, heart shape, and and I think she bought
Speaker 2: me a pair of pants, and I sure you know
Speaker 2: all this stuff, and mom still gives me Valentine's Day,
Speaker 2: I know, right, I you know, I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 2: I just got you a pizza. Then I'm gonna eat
Speaker 2: part of And it didn't go over very well.
Speaker 1: Was she mad? She?
Speaker 2: I think she felt bad. I don't know if she
Speaker 2: was mad, but she felt bad. And then I got
Speaker 2: kind of upset because I didn't have any money, right,
Speaker 2: so I was a double jerk, and so I went
Speaker 2: out for a drive and to cool down, and I
Speaker 2: ended up going to buy youner like hot Tomali's and
Speaker 2: Junior Mints with my last two dollars. An And anyway,
Speaker 2: we worked it out, and you know, at thirty six
Speaker 2: years later, we're still going strong, even though I have
Speaker 2: almost always failed completely in the Valentine's department, which kind
Speaker 2: of makes me wonder about the whole profiteering racket commercialization
Speaker 2: of Valentine's Day, the corporate holiday. Yeah, brow, you know
Speaker 2: that Valentine's Day is the number one seller of cards. Yeah,
Speaker 2: except for one Christmas Christmas Birthday. Christmas is the number
Speaker 2: one holiday for giving cards. Valentine's Day is number two.
Speaker 1: Whoa funeral, So that's a pointless piece of trivia. But anyway,
Speaker 1: it is kind of like a consumer driven holiday. They're
Speaker 1: like candies come out in heart shapes and it's huge flowers.
Speaker 1: I mean, could you imagine owning like a flower shop
Speaker 1: or an edible arrangements or whatever around the Valentine's Day
Speaker 1: you'd be.
Speaker 2: I'm sure for like flower shops. It is probably the
Speaker 2: biggest holiday of the year as far.
Speaker 1: As one season where you get, you know, just a
Speaker 1: big dump of just people pouring in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure Valentine's Day is the biggest. And you
Speaker 2: know they start setting this up right after the Christmas season,
Speaker 2: right you start finding all the valentine stuff coming in.
Speaker 2: So do you do you have a favorite kind of
Speaker 2: Valentine's Day candy?
Speaker 1: Just any reeses that's like seasonal, like you know, a
Speaker 1: Reese's peanut butter cups, Okay, but if you get like
Speaker 1: a Santa shaped REases or a heart shaped rases or
Speaker 1: an Easter bunny, those are better. Yeah, so that would
Speaker 1: be my favorite. Mom likes those little chalk like uh, those.
Speaker 2: Little Valentine's candies that have the little sayings on them
Speaker 2: or little words it says like you are too cool
Speaker 2: or like hug me. Yes. And they're different kinds. One
Speaker 2: kind she doesn't like and one kind she does. But
Speaker 2: I don't buy him anymore. I let her buy him
Speaker 2: because I can't make a mistake. Yeah, yeah, it's a
Speaker 2: good move. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna complain, you're gonna do it yourself.
Speaker 2: So, you know, you think about Valentine's Day. What are
Speaker 2: some of the weird traditions that surround Valentine's Day. Let's
Speaker 2: just start it locally. What are the things that people
Speaker 2: do right now around us and around Valentine's Day?
Speaker 1: I think a weird one for a lot of people
Speaker 1: because it's like the love holiday. So people when they're
Speaker 1: single on Oh, I have those wraps about Valentine's Day.
Speaker 1: You should post those good people who are single on
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. They end up, you know, having like a
Speaker 1: little single parties. Yeah, and if they kind of like
Speaker 1: wallow and self pity or they celebrate their freedom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, usually it's the former. If they're wanting for a
Speaker 2: relationship or wanting out or maybe just got out of
Speaker 2: a relationship that they didn't want, or maybe sad because
Speaker 2: they're out of a relationship that they really want.
Speaker 1: I bet you there's a spike on Spotify of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what else, what do people do? They go out
Speaker 2: for dinner, right, you know, expensive dinner, so they spend
Speaker 2: a lot of money on food. And it's always about
Speaker 2: telling somebody that you love them. It's a love thing,
Speaker 2: you know. Microp be a good one to play after this. Okay,
Speaker 2: so maybe getting back to what we were talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was rough. So yeah, it's always about, you know,
Speaker 2: making sure that you're letting somebody know that you have
Speaker 2: a potential love interest in them, right, or you do
Speaker 2: have a love interest already in them. It's not typically
Speaker 2: something where you're like saying, hey, you're a pretty nice guy,
Speaker 2: thanks for your business. I'm going to give you a Valentine. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't see businesses doing that.
Speaker 1: Weird.
Speaker 2: That would be weird. That's under your profession.
Speaker 1: I guess maybe there's a little more of those in
Speaker 1: Las Vegas.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if you're a call girl or something like that,
Speaker 2: be So it all kind of comes down to love
Speaker 2: love of something, And honestly, it's it's not like a
Speaker 2: love like I love my kid, But usually it's kind
Speaker 2: of focused in on romantic love.
Speaker 1: Isn't there like three kinds of love in the Greek Yeah?
Speaker 2: Actually, I think there's like six different words that they
Speaker 2: use for love in the Greek Greek language, you know,
Speaker 2: well I know because I looked it up. Yeah. So, like,
Speaker 2: like the one that probably is most akin to Valentine's
Speaker 2: Day is eros heros erotic love, you know, sexual passion.
Speaker 2: Then they have philia, which is deep friendship okay, and
Speaker 2: then you have lutus, which is playful love ye the
Speaker 2: side hustle. I guess when you have a gape, which
Speaker 2: is a broad category of love for your fellow man
Speaker 2: and people like bros. And then pragma, which is a
Speaker 2: longstanding love that it's just gonna last forever like a dog. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess probably they had that kind of love. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then the last one is a felucia, oh, felicia,
Speaker 2: no felucia or felucia yeah, or love of the self ooh. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to make a social commentary on
Speaker 2: this at all, but I think that's the kind of
Speaker 2: love that a lot of people in this world right
Speaker 2: now have for themselves.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people could say bye Felicia.
Speaker 2: Bye Felicia. No, I love Felicia, which is myself myself. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because I mean, just look what's going on. If people
Speaker 2: really cared about other people, I don't think half the
Speaker 2: crap that's going on would be going on. But anyway,
Speaker 2: this isn't about politics or or even morality. This is
Speaker 2: about love. This is about Valentines. Love love. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: we talked a little bit about what we do here
Speaker 2: in the United States. We give each other cards and
Speaker 2: we have other tradition going at the dinner chocolate chocolate.
Speaker 1: You know what really chaps my biscuits? What those heart
Speaker 1: shaped boxes and they got the assorted chocolates inside, and
Speaker 1: that's something you might get from like a realty company or.
Speaker 2: So, yes, that's true. They're very like yeah they're nine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just kind of like hand them out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you buy a bunch of it.
Speaker 1: You got kind of a lacy wrap around. And anyway,
Speaker 1: I hate it when there's no like key or what
Speaker 1: kin is this gonna be like a chocolate with like
Speaker 1: a dark chocolate inside or like some kind of like
Speaker 1: newgat going to bite into this with like some kind
Speaker 1: of like whiskey Maraschino cherry.
Speaker 2: It just goes to the show. We do a lot
Speaker 2: of strange things in the United States to celebrate Valentine's Day, right,
Speaker 2: But we aren't the only ones, right. People all over
Speaker 2: the world celebrate Valentine's Day in very weird and strange ways.
Speaker 2: One case in point, let's go to the Philippines.
Speaker 1: Good place to start.
Speaker 2: The Philippines is famous on Valentine's Day for having mass weddings,
Speaker 2: so it wouldn't be weird. So you fly to the
Speaker 2: Philippines so you can get married with like six thousand
Speaker 2: other couples in a mass wedding ceremony.
Speaker 1: That'd be kind of weird.
Speaker 2: I mean, part of the fun is well, in the
Speaker 2: United States, part of the fun is like putting everything
Speaker 2: together for the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the briders. I was like, this is my day.
Speaker 1: I've been dreaming about this since I was twelve. Through that,
Speaker 1: But if you're a parent of a bride or groom
Speaker 1: and you've had experience putting a wedding together for them,
Speaker 1: then you might be thinking, man, I wish I would
Speaker 1: have known about the Philippines.
Speaker 2: I'd given a like one hundred bucks and say, go away.
Speaker 1: Go to the Philippines, enjoy your honeymoon slash.
Speaker 2: Barriage with six thousand other people. I'll get you. I'll
Speaker 2: give you five hundred bucks, I'll buy your airplane tickets
Speaker 2: to the Philippines, and there you go. Yeah, they never
Speaker 2: come back. Yeah, you never know what happens in the Philippines.
Speaker 1: What happens in the Philippines.
Speaker 2: Days in the Philippins. You were gonna say that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he sent me up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, both Set and Spike.
Speaker 2: There are other things that happen around the world that
Speaker 2: are really strange of Valentine's Day. So, like in the
Speaker 2: Czech Republic, people go around and they kiss hundred cherry blosses.
Speaker 1: It's like like kind of like a mistletoe that's kind
Speaker 1: of like a mistletoe, but in under cherry blossoms.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting. Supposedly, the only thing I've read is that
Speaker 2: it gives the couple's good luck for their coming marriage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's not like you see somebody under a
Speaker 1: cherry broth blossom, cherry brothel, cherry brossam. The cherry brothel
Speaker 1: sounds like a legit bill. You see somebody under your
Speaker 1: cherry bosom, brom whatever happens. It's not like you see
Speaker 1: somebody under a cherry blossom and you go kiss them.
Speaker 1: It's like you, as a couple make it a point
Speaker 1: to go under the cherry blossoming kiss.
Speaker 2: And that's an interesting thing. So February fourteenth historically, and
Speaker 2: we're gonna start talking about the deep history of Valentine's Day,
Speaker 2: but the February fourteenth is kind of one of those
Speaker 2: days where it's known as kind of the beginning of spring.
Speaker 2: So that's the day that the birds get together and
Speaker 2: they mate in some traditions. So yeah, cherry blossoms would
Speaker 2: fit right in with.
Speaker 1: That new life. Cherry's getting blossomed everywhere.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and it took me a minute. That's a
Speaker 2: good one. Just one minute. Yeah, that's what she said. Okay,
Speaker 2: we've recovered. Okay, let's let's jump on a plane. Let's
Speaker 2: go over to Wales. So over in Wales they do
Speaker 2: something even more kind of strange.
Speaker 1: Wales celebrate Valentine's Day.
Speaker 2: Well, they beach themselves.
Speaker 1: Okay, hang out with.
Speaker 2: Beaches in Wales. In Wales, they have a tradition on
Speaker 2: Valentine's Day they pay homage to their patron Saint who
Speaker 2: is Saint dwin Win Dwin Win. Yeah, And so what
Speaker 2: they do is they exchange wooden spoons spoons, yeah, finally
Speaker 2: carved wooden spoons.
Speaker 1: Finally carved wooden spoons.
Speaker 2: They spoon each other.
Speaker 1: So unlike the people of the Czech Republic, they stop
Speaker 1: at spooning yeah yeah, right, no, yeah, and Czech Republic
Speaker 1: people they just keep going okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: So that's a strange thing that they do in else.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's kind of cool. I have
Speaker 2: some pictures of those spoons. I'm gonna put them up
Speaker 2: on the website because they're kind of cool.
Speaker 1: That makes you think of those random older people often had,
Speaker 1: like a giant wooden spoon and a giant wooden force.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that's why. Maybe I never thought of that.
Speaker 1: I doubt it. But so what was that the dwin
Speaker 1: when he was the patrons the patron.
Speaker 2: Saint of lovers, Yeah, the Welsh patron Saint of lovers.
Speaker 1: I wonder what miracle you have to perform.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but it probably has something to do
Speaker 2: with something rising from the dead.
Speaker 1: WHOA.
Speaker 2: You just gotta be careful. You don't want to confuse
Speaker 2: Dwin Win with the patron saint of the Fiagra.
Speaker 1: For reals though, I did a little research on this
Speaker 1: saint dwin win win win win win, and she was
Speaker 1: a Welsh female saint and she fell in love with
Speaker 1: a guy and he returned the feelings, and she basically
Speaker 1: prayed that God would take away this desire so she
Speaker 1: can continue with her fantatholic duties. Yeah, and apparently while
Speaker 1: she was asleep or while she was awake and in
Speaker 1: distress in the woods, an angel came to her with
Speaker 1: a sweet potion that would kind of erase all of
Speaker 1: her memories of her this lover love interest that she
Speaker 1: had in her life. And then God gave her three wishes,
Speaker 1: and one wish was that her lover's thoughts and feelings
Speaker 1: for her would be kind of like sooth and no more,
Speaker 1: and that God would fulfill the hopes and dreams of
Speaker 1: true lovers. And then the last wish that she would
Speaker 1: never marry. And all of those came true and that's
Speaker 1: why she's a saint.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, weird, that's very very unselfish, very non American. Yeah,
Speaker 2: very non American.
Speaker 1: Not the saint of Viagra.
Speaker 2: No, no, no confusion there. Well, on that happy note,
Speaker 2: let's go over to Denmark or Norway. They do something
Speaker 2: kind of interesting there. So they get their love interest
Speaker 2: an anonymous card and then they fill it out and
Speaker 2: then they sign it with dot and there is one
Speaker 2: dot for each letter of the person's name signing it.
Speaker 2: And then the person that receives it has to guess
Speaker 2: who gave them the card, and if they guess correctly,
Speaker 2: then they get a chocolate East Egg.
Speaker 1: If they chocolate Easter egg, Yeah, they get tying into holidays.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so yeah, weird. Well, you know, Easter
Speaker 2: is close by and it's like spring and new birth
Speaker 2: and all that, you love, all of that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: If they don't guess right, then they have to buy
Speaker 2: a chocolate Easter Egg and give it to the person
Speaker 2: to say they're sorry.
Speaker 1: Oh so they kind of know or they find out later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they find out. Yeah, after they guess. Apparently they
Speaker 2: find out if they're correct. If they're correct, they get
Speaker 2: the East Egg. If they are wrong, they have to
Speaker 2: buy that person in the East Egg to say I'm sorry. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's do one more. These are kind of fun. Let's
Speaker 2: get on our love plane or love boat and let's
Speaker 2: cruise on a over to South Africa. So in South Africa,
Speaker 2: apparently it's not a lot about getting cards or receiving cards. There,
Speaker 2: they do something else. They actually write the name of
Speaker 2: somebody they care about or they have feelings for or
Speaker 2: want to be romantic with, and they attach it, pin
Speaker 2: it to their sleeve and then they walk around literally
Speaker 2: with the name of that person that they love their
Speaker 2: heart on their sleeve. Crazy, that's correct. The whole idea
Speaker 2: is that now it's public and it's out there, and
Speaker 2: so now if the person who his name is written
Speaker 2: on the sleeve returns that love, well, then maybe they
Speaker 2: will have a chance at a long relationship.
Speaker 1: It's like the original Tinder app Yeah, exactly, wipe right
Speaker 1: one year.
Speaker 2: As well and then or if they swipe left, then
Speaker 2: you you tear the heart off your sleeve and go
Speaker 2: home crying. Yeah. So apparently they call this in South
Speaker 2: Africa Luprekelia forli, which is really interesting because this is
Speaker 2: the ancient name for a Roman festival that a lot
Speaker 2: of people believe is the actual start of what we
Speaker 2: now call the Holiday of Valentines. Yeah, ancient, so I
Speaker 2: think we should go there next. Let's go ancient, go
Speaker 2: Greek let's go back.
Speaker 1: Let's go Roman in Rome. When in Rome do what
Speaker 1: Romans do, but probably use protection.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lots and lots of protection. So let's travel down
Speaker 2: the Roman road a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think we could pick any road.
Speaker 2: Lead to Rome, that's what they say. So in ancient
Speaker 2: Rome they practiced this festival called Lupercalia, and basically what
Speaker 2: it was is the celebration for the founders of Rome,
Speaker 2: which were Romulus and Remus and the she wolf that
Speaker 2: saved them. She wolf. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the story
Speaker 2: goes that the ancient king Emilius, or maybe it's however
Speaker 2: you say it, he orders the execution of his twin nephews,
Speaker 2: Romulus and Remus, Okay, and the reason is because their
Speaker 2: mother was unfaithful. Oh yeah, so not a good deal.
Speaker 2: He's going to have these young baby twin boys thrown
Speaker 2: into the river. So on the way down, the servant
Speaker 2: has pity on them and he makes a basket and
Speaker 2: he sets them adrift in the.
Speaker 1: Type of rivers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very similar to the Moses story. So they
Speaker 2: float down the river and then the basket gets caught
Speaker 2: up in the roots of a tree, and then a
Speaker 2: she wolf comes and the she wolf takes Romulus and
Speaker 2: Remus out of the basket and nurtures them as her
Speaker 2: own cubs. Kind of wolf. Yeah, yeah, very bitch. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well maybe she was probably was nice. She was a
Speaker 2: nice bitch. Yeah. And so just to.
Speaker 1: Clarify, I mean like female dogs.
Speaker 2: I know, but you still like the shock element the
Speaker 2: word shock factor. Yeah. So anyway back to the story.
Speaker 2: After the she wolf takes care of Romulus and Remus,
Speaker 2: she basically and saves their life. And as they get older,
Speaker 2: they venture out and eventually go back and they killed
Speaker 2: the king that sentenced them to death. And after they're
Speaker 2: done with all that, they go back to the den
Speaker 2: where they were nurtured and they name it the lupercal Lupercow.
Speaker 2: That's the founding of Rome, but it's also the name
Speaker 2: of this festival. So in honor of that, these priests,
Speaker 2: later on, the Luprici priest would basically have this festival.
Speaker 2: It was bloody, it was gross, I mean, it was
Speaker 2: sexually charged. It was this kind of crazy naked semi
Speaker 2: naked ordeal. So what they would do is they would
Speaker 2: take some goats, at least one, and they would take
Speaker 2: a dog, at least one dog, and they would have
Speaker 2: animal sacrifices. No, no, no, So they go to this
Speaker 2: cave area, this den area. They would go in there
Speaker 2: and they would kill and sacrifice the goats and the dog,
Speaker 2: and then they would splatter blood on their naked bodies.
Speaker 2: And then they'd run through the town and apparently they
Speaker 2: would cut the hides of the goats into strips and
Speaker 2: as they and then they would drench them in the
Speaker 2: blood of the animal. And then as they ran through
Speaker 2: the streets, they would look for women and they would
Speaker 2: whip them with these strips of goat hide. Goat blood,
Speaker 2: goat blood hide. Wow, and the women it was a
Speaker 2: sign of being blessed. So the women would actually want
Speaker 2: to be whipped with this bloody hide, and some of
Speaker 2: them would actually bear themselves so that they could be
Speaker 2: whipped with these things while they're naked. Interesting. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was a crazy ugly the party. Yeah, I mean, this
Speaker 2: is a kind of vile, ugly, gross stuff. And so
Speaker 2: this festival would take place. They'd have this big feast
Speaker 2: and then after to the sacrifice, they'd have the feast
Speaker 2: and all the whipping that had already taken place. Then
Speaker 2: they would meet and a lot of times this was
Speaker 2: all done like unclothed. Later on in Roman history it
Speaker 2: became more civilized and they would wear clothes and instead
Speaker 2: of being whipped nakedly, they'd get whipped on their hands,
Speaker 2: and the priests would be more chaste. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 2: it's a I mean, you read it some of the stuff,
Speaker 2: you're like, really, this really happened. Yeah. So then after
Speaker 2: the feast, they would basically have this giant lottery. It
Speaker 2: was like a meat market for humans. So what they
Speaker 2: would do is they would put their names in a
Speaker 2: jar and then the men would draw name of a
Speaker 2: woman and vice versa, and they would hook up with
Speaker 2: these people for the duration of the festival. So basically
Speaker 2: it's like this is going to be your sex partner
Speaker 2: for the rest of the festival. Crazy, and so that
Speaker 2: would take place, and then a lot of times couples
Speaker 2: sometimes would actually stay together that full year until the
Speaker 2: next festival, and then they'd switch or maybe even fall
Speaker 2: in love and stay together perpetually.
Speaker 1: Via one man weapon family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really weird. You read this stuff and you
Speaker 2: kind of feel dirty, like you want to go and
Speaker 2: take a bath or something. Because so later on things
Speaker 2: kind of got not quite as wild in that luper
Speaker 2: Kla festival, but it still took place on February fourteenth.
Speaker 2: They wanted to be blessed by the gods for plentifulness
Speaker 2: in the year to come and getting it on and
Speaker 2: getting it on, you know, to be fertile and all
Speaker 2: that kind.
Speaker 1: Of stuff, and probably kind of like, what if we
Speaker 1: tried to hook up this guy with this girl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: probably had a little of that going on in it.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean the whole drawing names and stuff. They were
Speaker 1: probably trying to like, wouldn't it be great?
Speaker 2: Like if you were like a total gomer and you
Speaker 2: just you were ugly and and you never had a
Speaker 2: chance at a girl, but that one time a year
Speaker 2: where you got to put your name in there and
Speaker 2: get drawn by lottery and hook up and maybe that
Speaker 2: one time you get lucky, you get the most beautiful woman.
Speaker 1: Darla Johanson freaking sweet in the whole city.
Speaker 2: Oh it's terrible, but that's what took place as far
Speaker 2: as the festival goes. I mean, I guess the earliest
Speaker 2: history of that is actually like sixth century BC, So
Speaker 2: I mean this is really really an old thing, and
Speaker 2: this carried on this festival was really popular through Roman times,
Speaker 2: and then later when the Roman Empire kind of had
Speaker 2: spread out, they were very very protective of the festival.
Speaker 2: Then when Christianity came on the scene in the second century,
Speaker 2: there was a lot of persecution and there was a
Speaker 2: lot of people that were converting to Christianity, and they
Speaker 2: were like saying, hey, wait, these festivals are pagan, they're bad,
Speaker 2: bad stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about Saint.
Speaker 2: Dwywin. No, I don't think she was around them. We're
Speaker 2: like two hundred AD. Yeah, yeah, we were not there yet.
Speaker 2: So this is before Constantine, you know, made Christianity and
Speaker 2: Catholicism the official religion of Rome. Right prior to that,
Speaker 2: the Christians were like, you know, they getting majorly hurt
Speaker 2: by the emperors of Rome because they would There was
Speaker 2: a lot of persecution. They were being killed and martyr
Speaker 2: left and right. So it was during this time second
Speaker 2: third century a d that we find the origination of
Speaker 2: two and maybe even three different stories that kind of
Speaker 2: chronicle the life of the person that we now recognize
Speaker 2: as Saint Valentine, who is the patron saint of Saint
Speaker 2: Valentine's Day. So the story goes that a Catholic priest
Speaker 2: by the name of Valentine, and while he's there, the
Speaker 2: judge over his trial has a daughter who is stricken
Speaker 2: with blindness, and so he goes to Valentine because he
Speaker 2: knows Valentine's a Christian, and he says, hey, you know,
Speaker 2: I will do anything you want if you can heal
Speaker 2: my daughter, and so he does. He basically prays for
Speaker 2: the girl and she is healed. And so this judge
Speaker 2: follows what Saint Valentine says and he removes all the
Speaker 2: idols and stuff from his house and he becomes a Christian.
Speaker 2: Then the emperor finds out about it, glorious. The second
Speaker 2: is that who was I think Emperor Claudius finds out
Speaker 2: about it, and he ends up executing Saint Valentine. He
Speaker 2: chops off his head, so that's how he's martyred. So
Speaker 2: that's one of the stories. And then there's a second
Speaker 2: story that's very similar to that. I think it's a
Speaker 2: boy and that one, but they're both healed of blindness,
Speaker 2: and a lot of you know, scholars think that they're
Speaker 2: probably the same story that just got kind of change
Speaker 2: from the body of Saint Valentine's buried along this road
Speaker 2: and then later they build a shrine over it. In
Speaker 2: that story and another version of that same story, he
Speaker 2: actually Valentine falls in love with the daughter of the
Speaker 2: judge and he prays for her. She's healed, and then
Speaker 2: he ends up being martyred by Emperor Quadius. But on
Speaker 2: the night before he is martyred, before it's heads chopped off,
Speaker 2: he sends this daughter whose name was Julia, I believe
Speaker 2: a letter and he says, from your Valentine, okay, And
Speaker 2: so that's like something that's always on, like the modern
Speaker 2: Valentine's that you get now from your Valentine.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of how the origins of Valentine's Day started,
Speaker 2: where you have this festival, ancient Roman festival called Lupercalia.
Speaker 2: During that festival you have these martyrdoms of these guys
Speaker 2: named Valentine and the stories that go along with it
Speaker 2: that by the time you get to the fifth century,
Speaker 2: you have this Pope Galacius the First who totally eliminated
Speaker 2: the practice of Lupercalia and turns it into this this
Speaker 2: Saint Valentine's Day, and so from then on it became
Speaker 2: kind of a symbol of love. Oh okay, yeah, and
Speaker 2: I don't think originally it had anything to do with
Speaker 2: like sex or romance other than the Roman pagan festival
Speaker 2: behind it, which was all about sex and fertility.
Speaker 1: It was probably one of those very stereotypical pagan manipulations
Speaker 1: where they just kind of tie it in to fit
Speaker 1: something else real quick. They're like, oh, you guys are
Speaker 1: having a Christmas party. That's when Jesus was born. Now,
Speaker 1: you know, like it kind of like this kind of
Speaker 1: like makes something that might be around the time period
Speaker 1: kind of fit into what the world's doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. I think that's exactly right. I think you
Speaker 2: have this new power centered in this religious belief system
Speaker 2: that's gaining in popularity, and you have this emperor Constantine
Speaker 2: who comes in and makes Christianity the official religion of
Speaker 2: the whole Roman Empire, and so all these pagan things
Speaker 2: have to go away because they're evil, they're bad. So
Speaker 2: what they do is they start replacing those pagan festivals
Speaker 2: with religious ones. Yeah, what a better way to do it.
Speaker 2: We got two.
Speaker 1: Martyrs take it away from the people, like, oh, you've
Speaker 1: been celebrating this, but now you can't. He's got to
Speaker 1: like you can celebrate it. But it's not about the
Speaker 1: wolf mother orgy.
Speaker 2: It's about it's about these two martyrs that died because
Speaker 2: they were faithful. So anyway, it becomes kind of this
Speaker 2: mixed kind of thing because a lot of people don't
Speaker 2: want to give up their ancient belief festivals and feasts,
Speaker 2: and it ends up being some kind of weird hybrid.
Speaker 2: And then so now you get into the thirteenth fourteenth
Speaker 2: century and people are handing out cards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's better than whipping each other with bloody
Speaker 1: goat skin naked. I I guess, So what if you
Speaker 1: just did that randomly? Yeah, you know, instead of it
Speaker 1: instead of your junior high box. Oh my gosh, just
Speaker 1: the classrooms started with people with the bloody goats getting.
Speaker 2: Well, first you have to rip off all your clothes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate to even think of that be hilarious
Speaker 1: though it would be disgusting.
Speaker 2: So there's another part of it that is kind of
Speaker 2: strange when you get into Roman mythology, and that is
Speaker 2: this little character that is on a lot of Valentine's
Speaker 2: cards and we call him Cupid. So the whole origin
Speaker 2: of Cupid is another kind of Roman mythology. Cupid is
Speaker 2: the god of Love. He's the son of the goddess
Speaker 2: of love, Venus Venus. Yeah, and so the Greek counterpart
Speaker 2: is Eos Eos and the mother is Aphrodite. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: kind of go together. Yeah. So we've got in our
Speaker 2: mind this kind of cupid image of this little chubby
Speaker 2: cherub who has a little bow, little arrow, and he
Speaker 2: runs around. He's all cute, mischievous.
Speaker 1: I kind of identify myself as Cupid, kind of chubby,
Speaker 1: kind of childish, runs around with a bow and arrow,
Speaker 1: and I pull back on my target and I loose
Speaker 1: my arrow strike and I strike at the heart of
Speaker 1: my target, and I love the way it tastes.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's just sick and wrong. It brings
Speaker 2: a terrible word picture to my mind.
Speaker 1: You can just camevlage a diaper and the fluttering of
Speaker 1: my weeds. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, the actual story of Cuban is quite a bit
Speaker 2: different than that. In the real story of Cupid or Eos,
Speaker 2: whichever you want to call him, is that there is
Speaker 2: this beautiful, beautiful woman named Psyche. I mean, she's the
Speaker 2: most beautiful woman on the planet. But she's not a goddess. Psyche. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she's not a goddess. She's human. In fact, she is
Speaker 2: so beautiful that she is kind of scorned by people
Speaker 2: because she's so intimidating because of her beauty. So the
Speaker 2: dad makes a deal that somehow that she's going to
Speaker 2: get married to this like serpent creature, and so yeah,
Speaker 2: he puts her up on a rock because the guy's
Speaker 2: bo's won't come around because she's just too dang beautiful, right,
Speaker 2: So he puts up on this rock, and the Aphrodite
Speaker 2: basically is concealing that this is actually a serpent that
Speaker 2: Psyche's gonna get married to because Aphrodite was jealous of
Speaker 2: Psyche's beauty.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Psyche is so beautiful that Aphrodite gets jealous because people
Speaker 2: are worshiping her beauty rather than her own.
Speaker 1: She's all up in Aphrodite Psyche.
Speaker 2: Right, right, So there's this like cat fight going on
Speaker 2: between the god and the mortal and so yeah, we do.
Speaker 2: So anyway, she sends Cupid, her son to pure Psyche
Speaker 2: with an arrow, so she will fall in love with
Speaker 2: the serpents. Interesting, but when Cupid sees her, he's so
Speaker 2: enamored with Psyche that heid he does, he does to
Speaker 2: the point that he pierces himself so that he falls
Speaker 2: in love with Psyche nice. The problem is mortals and
Speaker 2: gods can't mary right because one's immortal, one's not mortal,
Speaker 2: and that's just not a good thing to do. So
Speaker 2: what they do is they end up having this relationship
Speaker 2: where Cupid carries Psyche off to this palace and basically
Speaker 2: he loves her, but he never lets Psyche see so
Speaker 2: they like have this relationship, but she never can look
Speaker 2: upon him, and he makes her promise that she will
Speaker 2: never look upon him and see who he is. Weird
Speaker 2: because she thinks he's a serpent, right, she thinks she
Speaker 2: married a serpent, but really it's the god of love, Cupid.
Speaker 2: He's keeping it secret for the protection of themselves, so
Speaker 2: it's all good.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 2: Psyche ends up getting knocked up. She's pregnant and she
Speaker 2: wants but she doesn't know that. She thinks it's a
Speaker 2: serpent baby, and so she decides she's going to sneak
Speaker 2: a peek at at her husband one night, So she
Speaker 2: gets a lamp and she goes over and luminates and
Speaker 2: finds out will lo and behold, it's not a serpent, aid,
Speaker 2: it's the God of love. It's eos right, and oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, things happen. And anyway, some oil from the
Speaker 2: lamp falls on Cupid and he burns a little bit,
Speaker 2: not bad, just a little bit. He gets a little burned,
Speaker 2: and he gets mad. He feels like he's betrayed, and
Speaker 2: he runs off because she promised that she never would look,
Speaker 2: but she did. She cheated. He runs off, and of course,
Speaker 2: you know, Psyche is just totally totally discouraged and depressed
Speaker 2: by this whole deal. And she's pregnant. Yeah, yeah, she
Speaker 2: canna be a single moment. So she goes and she
Speaker 2: wants to find out is there any way that she
Speaker 2: can marry Cupid and Aphrodite or Venus with depending if
Speaker 2: your Roman and Greek Afridinas Afridinas. She comes up with
Speaker 2: this wicked plan that will make it so that Psyche
Speaker 2: will never be able to marry her son. And she
Speaker 2: comes up with these four challenges that she has to
Speaker 2: do that are impossible. One of my think is for Psyche,
Speaker 2: in order for Psyche to you know, get hooked back
Speaker 2: up again with Cupid, she has to do these four things.
Speaker 2: One of them was she had to sort different types
Speaker 2: of grains. Yeah, all the different seeds and grains into
Speaker 2: different piles, and it was like a bunch of it
Speaker 2: and it was impossible task. While the ants help her,
Speaker 2: and they helped sort all these rains out, and so
Speaker 2: she passed.
Speaker 1: The yeah yeah, going upon the animal friends.
Speaker 2: Exactly so that happens. I mean, almost all of these
Speaker 2: have like a Walt Disney princess kind of ye kind
Speaker 2: of tower. It's very similar. I mean it's all the same. Right.
Speaker 2: So the second one is she had to go get
Speaker 2: like the fleece from these mountain goats cool or mountain
Speaker 2: sheep or.
Speaker 1: Whatever it was with Cupid zero.
Speaker 2: No, what was crazy is that the herd would attack
Speaker 2: anybody that got closer and they would trample him to death
Speaker 2: and kill him. And so some goddess or some faerry
Speaker 2: or somebody tells her no, no, no, wait, and then
Speaker 2: just go pick up the wool that got stuck to
Speaker 2: the briars. So she collects all that and takes it
Speaker 2: and she passes that test. There was a third one
Speaker 2: in there, some I don't remember what it is, but
Speaker 2: the fourth one was where she has to go to
Speaker 2: hell and she has to get like this secret of
Speaker 2: beauty from this goddess of the underworld. So to do that,
Speaker 2: she has to cross No, no, it wasn't her starts
Speaker 2: of the pee, like I don't know my Greek mythology.
Speaker 2: We should talk about that sometimes sometimes all the strange gods. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but anyway, so she goes and she has to cross
Speaker 2: the river stick she gets money and somebody tells her
Speaker 2: to get take money with Tory the fairy Man. She
Speaker 2: goes across. She gets this box. She brings it back
Speaker 2: and it's supposedly this this beauty, the secret of this,
Speaker 2: this goddess's beauty of the underworld, and she's taking it
Speaker 2: to aphred Iity to earn the right to marry her son.
Speaker 2: But she decides she's going to peek inside the box.
Speaker 2: She wasn't supposed to look at it. But when she
Speaker 2: opens the box, it's like death or sleep is inside
Speaker 2: this and she falls asleep like sleeping beauty. She can't
Speaker 2: wake up, falls around. So as she's there, dead or
Speaker 2: sleeping and whatever she is, Cupid comes to her rest
Speaker 2: because boy he loves her, and then he realizes it's
Speaker 2: stupid that they couldn't be married just because she's mortal
Speaker 2: and easy mortal. He ends up saving her takes her
Speaker 2: to his father, who I think is Zeus or somebody
Speaker 2: like that, and and he mixes a potion of ambrosia
Speaker 2: and gives it to Psyche and she drinks it, and
Speaker 2: lo and behold, Psyche becomes immortal. She becomes a goddess.
Speaker 2: So then eos are Cupid and Psyche live happily ever after.
Speaker 1: Nice I was thinking she'd peek in there and it
Speaker 1: was a mirror and like a little sticker that said
Speaker 1: the beauty was within you all along.
Speaker 2: That would have been a better and then she could
Speaker 2: have triumphantly just marched up to keep and said, hey,
Speaker 2: you don't want all this fine.
Speaker 1: I think Cupid wanted all of it, but he couldn't
Speaker 1: have it because of weird legalistic.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, legalistic god religions. So anyway, that's the story
Speaker 2: of Cupid. I don't know how he he got all
Speaker 2: mixed up in the whole car thing, other than the romance.
Speaker 2: He's known as the god of Love that he pierces
Speaker 2: people with love and then they are destined.
Speaker 1: To be It's kind of like a cool little thing
Speaker 1: because you don't really know why. You see somebody and
Speaker 1: you're like, WHOA. But if you imagine like a little
Speaker 1: guy like shooting a little heart shaped arrow at you.
Speaker 1: And I think if Tom and Jerry kind.
Speaker 2: Of for some reason the cat in the mouth, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he like.
Speaker 1: Sees the cute cat and then like it and then
Speaker 1: he's like into hearts and stuff. That's what I feel.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, that kind of happens to people, and
Speaker 2: sometimes it's what do they call unrequited love, where you
Speaker 2: fall in love with somebody that's never going to return
Speaker 2: that love, and some people live their whole life that way,
Speaker 2: and they will do tremendous acts of love for that
Speaker 2: person without even the hope or possibility of ever getting
Speaker 2: that love return to the right. I guess that's kind
Speaker 2: of the way we are with our children and things.
Speaker 2: It's unconditional. Just into the stand by Stephen King. Stephen
Speaker 2: King almost said Steven Spielberg. No, he does different, a
Speaker 2: little bit different.
Speaker 1: But there's a guy, Harold Louder, and he falls in
Speaker 1: love with Franny, one of the main characters, and Franny
Speaker 1: doesn't have the same love, but he's like kind of
Speaker 1: obsessed with her. That's what I thought of, Like he's
Speaker 1: obsessed and then he gets unobsessed pretty quick.
Speaker 2: She turns into a devil or something.
Speaker 1: No, a different lady gives him the biscuits.
Speaker 2: Oh, that'll do it. Yeah, he found a different biscuits,
Speaker 2: apply biscuits.
Speaker 1: See it. Well.
Speaker 2: One thing that's weird about this whole love thing is
Speaker 2: I don't really think that you get shot by an
Speaker 2: arrow and then you're hopelessly loved. I think there's infatuation
Speaker 2: and lust kind of acts more like a bow and arrow.
Speaker 2: You know, it hits you and you're like instantly like
Speaker 2: and you're almost doing stupid things because it's all passion driven.
Speaker 2: But I think real love is like something that you
Speaker 2: have to determine in your mind and your heart that
Speaker 2: you're going to follow and do regardless of whether it
Speaker 2: feels good or not. Sometimes you just do it and
Speaker 2: hopefully you get some of the other stuff too, But
Speaker 2: baseline is that it's totally something you have to work
Speaker 2: at and build.
Speaker 1: Love is the bow, the arrow is just the good stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a really bad metaphor, it it is,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's intentional, Yeah, it is. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I've everthing so, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know if I ever felt like I got shot
Speaker 2: by Cuban now unless he shot me an arrow.
Speaker 1: Of lust lust, I don't want to hear about that.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you'll be walking when I was younger, this doesn't
Speaker 2: happen anymore because I only have eyes for my wife.
Speaker 2: Now he bails those eyes. Always says that. But no,
Speaker 2: you know, I remember, like in high school and stuff
Speaker 2: in you'd be walking through the halls and some girls
Speaker 2: walk by and it was like, man, you got shot
Speaker 2: with love booty. But it wasn't. It was like wow,
Speaker 2: and maybe it's hormones. Maybe maybe you were shot format
Speaker 2: that's what the tip of the arrow is.
Speaker 1: It's a hormone, the dumb orphins.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. Valentine's Day is weird holiday because the
Speaker 2: origins of it are so odd. Yeah, and then it
Speaker 2: was commercialized and so now it's not so much about
Speaker 2: what the ancient things were.
Speaker 1: It's about proving a point almost to somebody.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, if you don't do it, you're in trouble.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true. And if you can't do it because
Speaker 1: you're single, then you're supposed to be sad and depressed.
Speaker 2: I wonder how many people go get counseling after Valentine's Day,
Speaker 2: right because of unmet expectations by themselves or somebody else.
Speaker 2: Yeah too. Well, and you watch all the movies around
Speaker 2: about Valentine's Day or love, and it's all about this
Speaker 2: romance stuff that like that's why there's a Hallmark channel. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's like expectations of what love is supposed to look like.
Speaker 1: That's the channel pretty much founded off of greeting cards.
Speaker 2: True, yeah, yeah, exactly. The weird there's a conspiracy there.
Speaker 1: I'm sure if we do about that, we can do
Speaker 1: an episod good marketing.
Speaker 2: Strange TV cards.
Speaker 1: So we got a good background of Valentine's Day and
Speaker 1: everything's kind of working into this weird god versus this
Speaker 1: god and he does this thing so this person can
Speaker 1: become a god in Roman mythology, right, Roman and Greek,
Speaker 1: which kind of brings up all this weird stuff in
Speaker 1: Roman Greek Norse between was Cupid and Eos, they're connected,
Speaker 1: they're the same, They're the same in this little story
Speaker 1: and Aphrodite and Venus and who are they connected to?
Speaker 1: Who are they connected?
Speaker 2: You can pretty much take most of the pantheon of Greek, Norse, Roman,
Speaker 2: I mean all of them, and you can tie them together.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they don't fit exactly right. But you can almost
Speaker 2: draw lines across each one of the pantheons to the
Speaker 2: same players.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they're like a combination of two different ones. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's weird, isn't it. And they have a lot of
Speaker 2: the same themes. I mean, some of them are a
Speaker 2: little more human like, Like I think the Greek gods
Speaker 2: are much more human like in the way that they're
Speaker 2: you know, having motions, and they do naughty things. They
Speaker 2: cheat on each.
Speaker 1: Other, things like that, don't know, because like Norse gods
Speaker 1: do the same thing. They're they're always getting in little
Speaker 1: bouts like this brother hates this one, and this guy
Speaker 1: slept with this guy's wife and so that guy banished
Speaker 1: this guy.
Speaker 2: And it's all kinds of weird. That is really weird,
Speaker 2: and it's fascinating. And I think that's why you're saying
Speaker 2: this is because we're planning on doing a series of
Speaker 2: episodes on strange.
Speaker 1: Gods and god and goddesses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean they're gods.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, they're easier to look at.
Speaker 2: Ones, not all of them. I heard there's this one
Speaker 2: called Medusa, Medusa douce. She just one look turns this
Speaker 2: stone don't.
Speaker 1: But maybe that's a good thing.
Speaker 2: And I don't think so.
Speaker 1: But isn't she's supposed to be like glussful and you
Speaker 1: look at her.
Speaker 2: Maybe not.
Speaker 1: Maybe she sees herself. I don't know. Maybe we'll have
Speaker 1: to look it up and tell everybody about it on
Speaker 1: our podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, no, what happens is they whip out a mirror
Speaker 2: and she sees herself and turns herself to stuff.
Speaker 1: They just whip it out.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it was planned. Maybe it
Speaker 2: was a shield. They have a shield and she saw
Speaker 2: a reflection of the shield.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Or no, maybe she was able to see where they
Speaker 2: were by looking at the reflection.
Speaker 1: Maybe Narcissus.
Speaker 2: And then there's this whole other tie with gods, with
Speaker 2: the eloheen gods that are in the Hebrew legends of
Speaker 2: like the Watchers and the fallen Ones. Yeah, it's very interesting.
Speaker 2: All of this stuff kind of ties together tie in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. Hercules Ands and Zeus and Odin and
Speaker 1: all those guys.
Speaker 2: We talked a little bit about the weird stuff, and
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that we're not very romantic or you know,
Speaker 2: if we sucked you in thinking about we're going to
Speaker 2: be all romantic and romantic stories and then we all
Speaker 2: we did.
Speaker 1: We're both married, so romance is pretty.
Speaker 2: Much on the window. If I put that in the podcast,
Speaker 2: you are dead. That's okay. Then she will when somebody tells.
Speaker 1: Her, parents will tell her about it.
Speaker 2: You hear what he said. Yeah, maybe maybe I won't
Speaker 2: do that unless you're mean, and then I will. Well,
Speaker 2: there are stories of like people doing incredibly romantic things
Speaker 2: on Valentine's Day. We can do that next year. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that'll be next year's Next year we'll go out of
Speaker 2: the weird and we'll talk about strange dudes who are
Speaker 2: totally whooped.
Speaker 1: Women did nice women can be whipped.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, awesome. On that happy note, I hope
Speaker 2: everybody has a great Valentine's Day, and then join us
Speaker 2: in for our next series on strange Gods. It should
Speaker 2: be fascinating. There's got to be tons of cool stuff there, yeah,
Speaker 2: drange stuff.
Speaker 1: And if you guys come up with some good Valentine's
Speaker 1: Day stories, maybe it'll be a good opportunity for you
Speaker 1: guys to reminisce on past Valentine's Days or make new memories,
Speaker 1: but maybe send them into us and we can touch
Speaker 1: on them like next year.
Speaker 2: And I would also say, if you do have a
Speaker 2: loved one that you would like to reach out to
Speaker 2: and express your love for, I mean, what a better
Speaker 2: day than February fourteenth? Historically you've got like all that
Speaker 2: historical background there.
Speaker 1: Just don't whip them with bloddy goat skin.
Speaker 2: No, don't do that, that's not your thing. But do
Speaker 2: the traditional thing. Do something untraditional, you know, just maybe
Speaker 2: walk up, give them a hug and say, man, I
Speaker 2: love you. Yeah, you never go wrong.
Speaker 1: Doing them unless you're married. Don't end it right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't you better get something better?
Speaker 1: Friends, some chocolate or like a reservation somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yes, there are stores everywhere with chok full kinds of
Speaker 2: weares and stuff that you can use to make your
Speaker 2: loved one feel special. I mean teddy bear and embrace
Speaker 2: the teddy Bears, you know, dudes kind of like buying
Speaker 2: lingerie and stuff for there oh self, Yeah, what do
Speaker 2: you gratifying?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, I'll go shopping for my wife or
Speaker 2: a Valentin to day and get her launderer, which really
Speaker 2: I want, or like buying her a TV for her birthday, yeah,
Speaker 2: or a mop for Christmas don't do that, all right, Well,
Speaker 2: let's let's close this out, buddy. I think people get the.
Speaker 1: Hit, ye ye, I think they get it.
Speaker 2: They get it.
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day kind of debauchery, makes with a little bit
Speaker 1: of Catholicism, ends in a little bit of weird Roman
Speaker 1: God stuff.
Speaker 2: You can get it on Valentine's Day.
Speaker 1: Okay, So join us next time, and hopefully I'm not sick.
Speaker 1: But join us next time for some cold drinks and
Speaker 1: some strange conversationss