Speaker 1: Welcome in, Good afternoon everybody. This is the Hard Truth Podcast.
Speaker 1: I am your host, Ashton Forbes. Today I'm joined by
Speaker 1: a very special guest, Eric Hecker. He has been to
Speaker 1: some of the most sensitive secure facilities in the entire
Speaker 1: country as well as Antarctica, and he is going to
Speaker 1: be here with us today to share his stories experience,
Speaker 1: talk about some hardware that that he has seen there,
Speaker 1: what the implications of hardware are, the scientific implications and
Speaker 1: the implications for us as a species, and what people
Speaker 1: should know about his experiences and what type of technology
Speaker 1: might be out there. And then we're also going to
Speaker 1: talk to him a little bit about his experience when
Speaker 1: he was sharing this information with our government organization, specifically ARA.
Speaker 1: So without further ado, Eric Hecker, Welcome to the stage,
Speaker 1: my friend. How are you doing today?
Speaker 2: I'm doing fantastic, passion. Thank you so much for having
Speaker 2: me on. I've been really looking forward to this conversation.
Speaker 2: I had a friend of mine named Levon who recently
Speaker 2: turned me on to the work that you had been doing,
Speaker 2: and to be quite frank, it just was a breadth
Speaker 2: of fresh air. It's been a long time since I've
Speaker 2: seen people connecting the dots with facts and research and effort.
Speaker 2: So my hack goes off to you, sir. I'm happy
Speaker 2: that you've become interested in that. I'm trying to get
Speaker 2: to the people as well, because I believe, much like yourself,
Speaker 2: some of us are starting to learn that there's technology
Speaker 2: going on around us to a level that is almost
Speaker 2: beyond description.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm glad you brought that up, because that's
Speaker 1: what I've just independently concluded. This is why I wanted
Speaker 1: to talk to you so much, is that, you know,
Speaker 1: I saw your story probably almost a year ago before
Speaker 1: I dug into any of this, and I thought, Wow,
Speaker 1: that's incredible if that's all true. And it took me
Speaker 1: digging through, going through my own experience of what kind
Speaker 1: of technology we might might be out there, to realize, Wow,
Speaker 1: this guy's like me. He's just had an incredible experience
Speaker 1: digging through what kind of technology we have that's capable
Speaker 1: of that we're capable of out there, And you know
Speaker 1: that this information needs to be out there to the public.
Speaker 1: So as we get started, I guess the first question
Speaker 1: I want to ask you is there's been a lot
Speaker 1: of drama going around the UFO community here today this
Speaker 1: I guess last few days. So when you were down
Speaker 1: to Antarctica, did you see any blue aliens or any
Speaker 1: Nordics or anything like that or is your experience more
Speaker 1: on the non esoteric angle.
Speaker 2: It would it would absolutely be from the non sooteric
Speaker 2: angle from my from my direct experience, right, But I
Speaker 2: have joked around like that in reality down at the
Speaker 2: South Pole. I mean, I have suggested that it would
Speaker 2: be like an air traffic control center for you know,
Speaker 2: on and off world activities of higher level technologies. And yes,
Speaker 2: people often wonder about aliens and such, and I have
Speaker 2: to admit, like, although I can say I've never seen
Speaker 2: anything with my own two eyes, it's very interesting that
Speaker 2: that environment affords people and numinity by being completely covered
Speaker 2: up every inch of your body and everything with cold
Speaker 2: weather gear. So it does make me laugh and give
Speaker 2: pause to I mean, there could have been something covered
Speaker 2: with gear. So I mean, I get what people make
Speaker 2: suggestions and I have to give pause and go, you know,
Speaker 2: something's it's on the possibilities list. But I can'tactically say
Speaker 2: that I have any confirmation of seeing any form of
Speaker 2: alien at the South Pole station. But I did see
Speaker 2: what I now consider a UFO of some sort, which
Speaker 2: was a large, massive ball of flame that went from
Speaker 2: horizon to horizon at the South Pole, which is at
Speaker 2: great elevation and unobstructed, and it went so fast and
Speaker 2: it was completely level flight. It wasn't descending, And to me,
Speaker 2: I now understand that to be a controlled flight path
Speaker 2: versus just a meteor event of some sort. I will
Speaker 2: go as so far as to say, as I I
Speaker 2: did see one UFO at the South Pole station during
Speaker 2: my Winter's Day.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and I think that I'm just making a
Speaker 1: joke there, because I don't think we have the luxury of,
Speaker 1: you know, discounting other people's experiences when we're disclosing stuff
Speaker 1: that is already pretty incredible, and I think both of
Speaker 1: us are are kind of doing that. You know, we
Speaker 1: have to keep an open mind, in my opinion, out there,
Speaker 1: So I hope nobody took offense to that. I absolutely
Speaker 1: think that there can be aliens out there. I haven't
Speaker 1: personally seen any, but we are going to be delving
Speaker 1: into a little bit of the implications of that with
Speaker 1: this technology and this discussion here today. So let's get
Speaker 1: right on into it. How did you end up in Antarctica.
Speaker 1: You know how I think I've I've read the stories
Speaker 1: that you you know, we're with Raytheon out there. How
Speaker 1: did you get to the situation where you ended up
Speaker 1: being part of that and getting out there with Raytheon?
Speaker 1: What can you tell us about how that all played out?
Speaker 2: Wow, that's that's actually really interesting and important question, but
Speaker 2: rather complex one to answer. I gather through looking at
Speaker 2: my life's history that it was a very complex and
Speaker 2: yet convoluted path that got me somehow to the South
Speaker 2: Pole Station, Antarctica for a year. I had a brief
Speaker 2: encounter with the Submarine Service in nineteen ninety four. I
Speaker 2: didn't get to the South Pole until twenty ten. I've
Speaker 2: met all kinds of peculiar people from my youth until
Speaker 2: South Pole Station, and I firmly believe that there was
Speaker 2: a lot of assistance in getting me into that program,
Speaker 2: if that makes any sense at all, I mean, it
Speaker 2: makes me think of there was a and I bastardize
Speaker 2: and steal phrases from people all the time and never
Speaker 2: get appropriate credit. But somebody once said that I've only
Speaker 2: gotten as far as I have because I've been able
Speaker 2: to stand upon the shoulders of the people that have
Speaker 2: supported you, know that that whole thing. I feel, as
Speaker 2: much as there are a lot of rogue factions and
Speaker 2: agencies out there that are up to no good, that
Speaker 2: there's somehow actions that are up to good and just
Speaker 2: like those other more nefarious cells can put folks to
Speaker 2: activity that I think there's good guys out there that
Speaker 2: are putting guys like me where they need to be
Speaker 2: at the right time to see things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do wonder about that as much what it
Speaker 1: is at this point in terms of like the maybe
Speaker 1: factions that want this information out there, that want the
Speaker 1: technology out there, maybe other ones that don't want it
Speaker 1: out there. It does make you wonder, and it makes
Speaker 1: you wonder about what kind of covert means might be
Speaker 1: happy behind the scenes. What was your impression of Raytheon,
Speaker 1: you know, before for and while you were working out
Speaker 1: there as a company.
Speaker 2: The impression of Raytheon through my life of crossing paths
Speaker 2: with this corporation has brought me to the contemporary conclusion
Speaker 2: that they are the Devil incarnate in corporate form. They
Speaker 2: don't seem to be one of the noblest companies on
Speaker 2: the planet doing the best for all humankind.
Speaker 1: Got it? And so, you know, and I'm starting to
Speaker 1: believe the same thing about many defense contractors that are
Speaker 1: out there. Raytheon is one of them, and my personal
Speaker 1: opinion is that disclosure is really a matter of getting
Speaker 1: the information technology from those companies. So when you were
Speaker 1: out there, what was your primary responsibility and what kind
Speaker 1: of team were you working with? I guess what I'm
Speaker 1: getting at is are there other people that had similar
Speaker 1: experiences to you that you did while you were out
Speaker 1: in Antarctica?
Speaker 2: Gotcha? Basically I was contracted as a plumber for the
Speaker 2: summer season two thousand and ten at South Pole Station,
Speaker 2: and during that summer season I applied for the winter
Speaker 2: position as well, and did well enough in my summer
Speaker 2: season to get that second contract. In that capacity, I
Speaker 2: also had to serve as a co lead on what
Speaker 2: they called the fire Brigade team. So basically, you know,
Speaker 2: we used to joke around and say that the you know,
Speaker 2: day to day life at the South Paul Station was
Speaker 2: just absolute boredom, but broke him up by moments of
Speaker 2: sheer terror, and it was the it was the sheer
Speaker 2: terror parts that were the most fun and make the
Speaker 2: best stories. But in reality, that's That's what I was
Speaker 2: actually there for, was that when things went catastrophically wrong,
Speaker 2: I was the guy that was basically charged with figuring
Speaker 2: it out, making the first call, breaching into the hot
Speaker 2: zone for you know, whatever the predicament may be at
Speaker 2: the moment, for whatever alarm bell rang. But that was
Speaker 2: my job, you know. So people like to give me
Speaker 2: a lot of grief for being some sort of you know,
Speaker 2: lowly plumber slash firefighter at this facility, But for all
Speaker 2: practical purposes, it was an extremely important role that was
Speaker 2: relied on heavily to make rapid decisions to maintain life
Speaker 2: support systems. That I assure you, when Mother Nature encroaches
Speaker 2: upon your life support systems in such a harsh environment,
Speaker 2: it's very important to keep that stuff back online as
Speaker 2: fast as possible because things can get really bad, really
Speaker 2: fast in those conditions. It's the South Pole Station and Antarctica, folks.
Speaker 2: This was not Yeah, it wasn't the party. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And also, I mean I think people should realize two things.
Speaker 1: First is that it's not the people at the top
Speaker 1: that know necessarily all the comings and goings of what's
Speaker 1: happening at these bases. Usually you're going to find as
Speaker 1: two people like Eric who have a key to every
Speaker 1: single door in the facility because they need it for maintenance,
Speaker 1: for example. And some people are probably wondering, you know,
Speaker 1: why do you have fire fire peat fires in the
Speaker 1: coldest one of the coldest places on Earth. Well we're
Speaker 1: gonna get to that in a little bit as well.
Speaker 1: There are legitimate reasons, but also in terms of you know,
Speaker 1: just being a plumber. You know, I think you're gonna
Speaker 1: tell us as well. It doesn't just mean that you
Speaker 1: only work on pipes. Is that you know, you have
Speaker 1: to make sure these devices are not on when you're
Speaker 1: going and you're making maintenance and repairs. And I mean
Speaker 1: the pipes exploding in in a very cold place and
Speaker 1: when you have water running through them is absolutely a
Speaker 1: real thing that occurs. So we're gonna dig into some
Speaker 1: of that here. I urged people not to try to
Speaker 1: discredit people just because of what their role was as
Speaker 1: opposed to the information that they're presenting forward now. On
Speaker 1: that same front, then what was your team? How big
Speaker 1: was the team of people that was with you working
Speaker 1: with you that you had that and you know, did
Speaker 1: you guys talk a lot about the stuff that was
Speaker 1: going on down there.
Speaker 2: For my winter season, which would have been through twenty
Speaker 2: and eleven, we had forty nine members of the winter
Speaker 2: over crew. Was and that was it became intimately familiar
Speaker 2: with each other. What we were interested in. It was,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of we were cut off from the world.
Speaker 2: We had no outside creature comforts, we didn't have internet
Speaker 2: twenty four hours a day. We had short opportunities with
Speaker 2: limited access. So our world was the South Pole Station
Speaker 2: and we had responsibilities obligations to each other to keep
Speaker 2: that place up and running. The science that they were
Speaker 2: doing was being presented is very important and we certainly
Speaker 2: were trying to do due diligence to you know, to
Speaker 2: make sure we kept things functioning. It was it was
Speaker 2: it was like being on the moon. I mean, even
Speaker 2: buzz Aldrin when he showed up to the South Pole was,
Speaker 2: you know, beside himself on how similar it was.
Speaker 1: So what can we let's talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: the hardware that was down there. I want to give
Speaker 1: people the idea of, you know, what were the kind
Speaker 1: of systems that were down there? Can you give us
Speaker 1: a rundown of I think it's three primary systems that
Speaker 1: were dealt with or which you go ahead and election.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah. So the major system that I'm bringing to
Speaker 2: everybody's attention is the ice cube neutrino detector, which they're
Speaker 2: presenting as its primary function is to search for neutrinos,
Speaker 2: and it does do that, but it also has the
Speaker 2: ability to transmit, which now you know, puts it in
Speaker 2: a whole other venue of what it can potentially do.
Speaker 2: And I'm trying to point out to people that these
Speaker 2: are directed energy weapons platforms. So the ice cube neutrino
Speaker 2: detector having the capacity to transmit makes it the world's
Speaker 2: largest phased array transmitter currently. Now a lot of folks
Speaker 2: don't realize I had mentioned to you earlier that the
Speaker 2: the device is slated to be increased by tenfold on
Speaker 2: its size. This is this is this is extreme stuff.
Speaker 2: This is you know, people need to pay attention to
Speaker 2: what these technologies can do potentially and then start to
Speaker 2: inquire as to whether or not those activities are going on.
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to like sugarcoat this like
Speaker 2: it's a it's a bitter pill for people to have
Speaker 2: to swallow. But we are currently in war. There's like
Speaker 2: war going on, but at a technological level that people
Speaker 2: can't really comprehend. So there is a an activity of
Speaker 2: war going on with weapons, but we no longer can
Speaker 2: identify the contemporary walking wounded because we're not familiar with
Speaker 2: the weaponry being used or the wounds that occur from
Speaker 2: the technology applied. So there's walking wounded around all of
Speaker 2: us right now in this ongoing battle, but the wounds
Speaker 2: are different than what we're familiar with. It's not bullet
Speaker 2: holes like of old. It's havana syndrome, symptom lists items,
Speaker 2: it's it's mental degradation. It's the ability to apply fatigue
Speaker 2: to a population.
Speaker 1: Now, how did you find out or how did you
Speaker 1: come to determine that these systems could transmit, or at
Speaker 1: least that the ice cube neutrino detector could transmit directed.
Speaker 2: To I was directed to find information that was already
Speaker 2: allready publicly available information And it basically comes out of
Speaker 2: the University of Wisconsin's like owners and Operator's manual for
Speaker 2: the ice cube neutrino array. So it's just like having,
Speaker 2: you know, the owner's manual for a Chevy truck. It's
Speaker 2: it's one of the pages in the owner's manual. But
Speaker 2: this happens to be the owner's manual for the ice
Speaker 2: cube neutrino array states that each of the doms has
Speaker 2: the ability to transmit up to two thousand and forty
Speaker 2: seven vaults. Yeah, and there's the doms right there. So
Speaker 2: there's lots consider like you had stated about the structure
Speaker 2: of these doms and how you know, we've all been
Speaker 2: utilizing the phenomena of electriity, but it doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: we really wholly understood what it is that we're doing
Speaker 2: with this phenomena. But there's other things to be considered.
Speaker 2: When you start applying the structure of sacred geometry to
Speaker 2: this phenomena that we don't wholly understand, there's certainly room
Speaker 2: for other things to be realized or utilized or whatever
Speaker 2: you want to call it. We have to open our
Speaker 2: minds to the fact that there's more going on around
Speaker 2: us than the science we've been told to trust as
Speaker 2: of late.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in these devices, when I look at these, they
Speaker 1: just look really weird, really suspicious. The fact that there's
Speaker 1: I think, what is it, five thousand, one hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty years something like that of these things, and each
Speaker 1: one has two thousand volts and it happens to look like.
Speaker 1: I did an interview last week with Tom Montak about
Speaker 1: scaler physics, and in his presentation he has a spherical
Speaker 1: capacitor that looks just like what this looks like, and
Speaker 1: he says that that is the type of device that
Speaker 1: could basically negate the electric field or make a uniform
Speaker 1: electric field with it that can produce these types of
Speaker 1: scaler effects, which to me lends credit to your argument
Speaker 1: that this can be used as a type of transmitter
Speaker 1: of energy. And so I guess what I'd like for
Speaker 1: you to repeat there, or to say in your own words,
Speaker 1: is you know, what would you like the world to
Speaker 1: know specifically about this device and what you found down there,
Speaker 1: Like what does the world need to wrap their head
Speaker 1: around in order to catch up with what's going on
Speaker 1: and the military project or you know, third party defense
Speaker 1: contract or projects and facilities.
Speaker 2: I guess to answer that in this regard for this device, specifically,
Speaker 2: this device is responsible for earthquakes that hit christ Church,
Speaker 2: New Zealand in February of two thousand and eleven. So
Speaker 2: this is the reality of some of the new directed
Speaker 2: energy weapons platforms that exist contemporarily in the hands of
Speaker 2: many factions. Is that they can manifest earthquakes and it's
Speaker 2: not really that hard to do.
Speaker 1: It's how did you find out that? Or like, you know,
Speaker 1: did somebody tell me.
Speaker 2: You found that out first hand? From my crew that
Speaker 2: we were involved with that.
Speaker 1: So rumors were circulating around in the in the crew
Speaker 1: there while you were out on assignment that hey, this
Speaker 1: earthquakes it.
Speaker 2: Was it was It wasn't like that at all. Actually,
Speaker 2: it was many years after being at the South Pole
Speaker 2: station there were multiple members from my crew that were
Speaker 2: starting to talk about medical issues that they were having,
Speaker 2: and it was in those conversations that a lot of
Speaker 2: folks decided to put all of their cards on the table,
Speaker 2: and in those cards that were then dealt, it was
Speaker 2: discussed what was really going on at the facility, which
Speaker 2: was the application of these systems in secondary and tertiary capacities,
Speaker 2: above and beyond what they were presented for as their
Speaker 2: primary purpose of science, was also the ulterior motives and
Speaker 2: what that could have done to the crew, which was us.
Speaker 2: And it was in those types of conversations that there
Speaker 2: was realizations for.
Speaker 1: Some Yeah, it's the thing about the christ Church. Thing
Speaker 1: that's really weird is there's no fault lines down there,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they had I think it
Speaker 1: was over a six point zero earthquake. I can't remember.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was even stronger than that. So I did
Speaker 1: dig into that a little bit, and I thought it
Speaker 1: was very unusual. The thing I keep wondering about is
Speaker 1: are we talking weather control or weather manipulation? You know,
Speaker 1: And there's a little bit of a subtle difference.
Speaker 2: That's semantics at that point. Yeah, because the difference between
Speaker 2: one and the other is just called practice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. It's just getting good at it, right,
Speaker 1: is getting good at it? And that's what I kind
Speaker 1: of wonder is we are we just shooting beams out
Speaker 1: there and then things are happening, versus are we able
Speaker 1: to cause very specific events to occur. This was something
Speaker 1: that came up recently with the Taiwan earthquake, which was
Speaker 1: I think like seven point four. People don't realize like
Speaker 1: every time you go up one point on the Richter scale,
Speaker 1: the earthquake is ten times more powerful. So that was
Speaker 1: a huge or what did you think about that? Did
Speaker 1: that earthquake? Was that seemed suspicious as to you at all?
Speaker 1: When you saw that one recently?
Speaker 2: I mean ever since my eyes have been open to
Speaker 2: what is possible. I guess I function from a very
Speaker 2: biased position of pretty much questioning every earthquake now because
Speaker 2: if not, you know, us and our agenda, there are
Speaker 2: certainly plenty of other factions that have their hands available
Speaker 2: to the same technology. So I believe that we the
Speaker 2: people of the planet need to start paying more attention
Speaker 2: to the technologies that are being used about us and
Speaker 2: start to understand that if these rogue factions keep doing
Speaker 2: what they're doing, which is you know it's because we
Speaker 2: don't get to know it exists, means that it can
Speaker 2: be unregulated. So right now there's just certain factions that
Speaker 2: are running amuck with technologies because they're unregulated. It's not
Speaker 2: it's not worth it for them to share the technology
Speaker 2: because in an unregulated capacity it's more lucrative.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my friend was telling me that there are potentially
Speaker 1: multiple factions. You've got the faction that wants the information out,
Speaker 1: You've got the faction that wants to keep the information secret,
Speaker 1: and then you've got the faction that wants to profit
Speaker 1: off of it themselves. And then between that you've got
Speaker 1: maybe all of those factions wondering what the other factions
Speaker 1: are thinking and what they're doing, And I think when
Speaker 1: you look at it like that, you know, it gets
Speaker 1: a little bit scary. Now. One thing I want to
Speaker 1: say for the people out there that might be watching
Speaker 1: this going, oh, this is all sci fi. You can't
Speaker 1: really pull this off. The laws of physics say you
Speaker 1: can't do this, I would say, think again, ask yourself,
Speaker 1: do you really think that we are at the pin
Speaker 1: of human civilization and scientific advancement right now? Is it
Speaker 1: possible that we do not fully understand the laws of
Speaker 1: physics and electrical engineering perfectly. When we're talking about scaler
Speaker 1: physics here, which is the types of science that we
Speaker 1: need for these types of effects, we're talking about Maxwell's
Speaker 1: original equations before they got stripped down to heavy sides
Speaker 1: for electrical engineering equations, and when we're talking about this,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the idea that you can negate your
Speaker 1: magnetic potential or your electric potential, and then you're not
Speaker 1: left with nothing, You're left with a scalar potential. And
Speaker 1: if you can take that scalar potential and turn it
Speaker 1: into a transmitter, a beam like we see in these
Speaker 1: doms that we're seeing here, potentially from something like this,
Speaker 1: you make a beam out of it, and then you
Speaker 1: take that beam, and that beam would have if you
Speaker 1: try to measure it with electromagnetic type of measurement device,
Speaker 1: you can measure nothing. But if you then cross that
Speaker 1: beam with another beam at a location in the distance,
Speaker 1: now you can potentially recreate the energy at a distance.
Speaker 1: You can have an interference pattern we called it interferometry
Speaker 1: zone occur. And then the next question for Eric Hecker
Speaker 1: here is I want to know his opinion because when
Speaker 1: I think about that and that being the capability for
Speaker 1: inducing an earthquake or even stuff like you know, stuff
Speaker 1: like Cavana syndrome and other types of electrical magnetic effects.
Speaker 1: You know, why do you why do you think Antarctica
Speaker 1: would be a good location for this, Eric, or have
Speaker 1: you thought about, you know, why they would have one
Speaker 1: of these devices down in Antarctica.
Speaker 2: Again, back to the primary purpose being the neutrino detection
Speaker 2: and the DOMS being embedded in the ice. So just
Speaker 2: the optical activity of the neutrino detection, I mean it
Speaker 2: is that that does function, so it helps when the
Speaker 2: primary mission is easily supportable. But I think there's other
Speaker 2: things to consider for the arrangement of the doms in
Speaker 2: the ice. The conversation that you had with Tom Montauk
Speaker 2: the other day, you guys were discussing ice, and I
Speaker 2: had made a mention in the comments that it's it's
Speaker 2: it behaves like a dielectric. So now when you really like,
Speaker 2: I mean, this is it's big brained, but it's not
Speaker 2: big brained because these are still basic electrical principles. So
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, we have these you know, spherical
Speaker 2: domes embedded in the ice that can now transmit up
Speaker 2: to you know, such and such vaults. But now the
Speaker 2: ice itself is a dielectric. So now is this in
Speaker 2: and of itself becoming this like directionally optimized capacitor of
Speaker 2: some sort, which you know, it's it's we don't have
Speaker 2: a bookvocabulary for a lot of this stuff right now.
Speaker 2: That's what's going on. Is problematic is that you know,
Speaker 2: when you say, well, what can this device do? What
Speaker 2: if I just simply said, we don't currently have words
Speaker 2: for that.
Speaker 1: Well, some of the other thoughts that I was just
Speaker 1: thinking as well, a lot of these quantum macroscopic effects
Speaker 1: that we are seeing with advanced high technology require very
Speaker 1: cold temperatures including classic superconductivity, also just cooling things down,
Speaker 1: especially we're dealing with huge amounts of energy that things
Speaker 1: might heat up. But the other thought is just the location, Like,
Speaker 1: if you are trying to shoot a beam somewhere, what's
Speaker 1: a better location than the top or the bottom of
Speaker 1: the planet. You know, it seems like a pretty good spot,
Speaker 1: especially if you're going to create a cross beam somewhere else.
Speaker 1: But I think you mentioned in our pre call the
Speaker 1: fact that when we looked at it, it's really deep
Speaker 1: into the ice. Is there potential, you know, some type
Speaker 1: of directional capability that you know, Why is it buried
Speaker 1: down into the ice as opposed to being flat on
Speaker 1: the surface. Do you think in terms of this three dimensions?
Speaker 2: I think that has everything to do with now, for
Speaker 2: the first time ever, applying a third dimension, and albeit
Speaker 2: a substantial third dimension, to what would previously have been
Speaker 2: just your your standard harp antenna array, which has length
Speaker 2: and width. So this one, having the third dimension applied
Speaker 2: and giving it all of that depth is just again
Speaker 2: a testimony to how much more profoundly powerful a phased
Speaker 2: array transmitter this is than anything previous to it.
Speaker 1: And you said they're going to make it ten times
Speaker 1: bigger than this.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, ten times bigger than the current arrangement.
Speaker 1: Do you know what the official narrative is on why
Speaker 1: they need to make it ten times bigger?
Speaker 2: Also, no, I'm really curious as to what that spiel is. Yes, why, Yes,
Speaker 2: I'm big into you know, paying attention to you know what,
Speaker 2: you know, what is the return on investment. I come
Speaker 2: from a blue collar world of slinging tools, and you know,
Speaker 2: I always look at things with a different angle, you know,
Speaker 2: like I don't believe that you can whip people into
Speaker 2: being master craftsmen. So I don't know that I buy
Speaker 2: the whole, you know, slaves of Egypt building the Pyramids situation.
Speaker 2: It just doesn't really make sense to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I'm with you on that. So everybody
Speaker 1: who's out there and watching or listening to this later on,
Speaker 1: pay close attention to what the official narrative is about
Speaker 1: why our ice cube neutrino detector needs to be ten
Speaker 1: times larger than it is. Right now. I'm very curious
Speaker 1: to hear because I think that, like what Eric just said,
Speaker 1: they've got these narratives that are out there, We're gonna
Speaker 1: have words to describe every time this out there, Like
Speaker 1: I'm using the term scale of physics, but you're probably
Speaker 1: not gonna hear officials use that, And so you know
Speaker 1: when they whatever they say about it's probably going to
Speaker 1: be some scientific mumbo jumble that they're going to try
Speaker 1: to pass off on us for why they've got to
Speaker 1: increase the size and we should pay extra attention to that.
Speaker 1: So didn't of your I think you mentioned this, but
Speaker 1: just repeat it if necessary anybody else in your crew.
Speaker 1: So they started have weird symptoms that I think you said.
Speaker 1: After the fact, people started to attribute to maybe it
Speaker 1: was being you know, too close to some of the
Speaker 1: hardware that was out there or what happened.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and you can probably look this up right now.
Speaker 2: My winter site manager while we were active at the
Speaker 2: South Pole station, suffered from some sort of incident and
Speaker 2: it made all of the news. Her name was renamed
Speaker 2: the Cole du Seur. She was the winter site manager
Speaker 2: for my crew, and she started calling for a medical
Speaker 2: evacuation of herself, which was extremely abnormal and gave me,
Speaker 2: you know, great trepidation at the time because this was
Speaker 2: the person that, through my hiring process was emphasizing to
Speaker 2: me that I needed to understand that there was no
Speaker 2: such thing as a medical like that. It was just
Speaker 2: there you go, that's yep, that's my winter site manager, Renee.
Speaker 2: So she was trying to get a medical evac for herself.
Speaker 2: This is the person that hired me and made me
Speaker 2: sign paperwork after she made me understand that there is
Speaker 2: no medical evac process, which just stranded there. So it
Speaker 2: was the weirdest thing ever when she started trying to
Speaker 2: call for an evac for herself, and.
Speaker 1: Wow, an eva she needed. She wanted to get out
Speaker 1: of there. She was feeling so bad that she.
Speaker 2: Something happened to her. I believe that she believed that
Speaker 2: she had a stroke because at the time of the
Speaker 2: incident she had no other way to have words for it.
Speaker 2: But I believe that she and many other folks from
Speaker 2: my crew were the victims of directed energy weapons systems attacks.
Speaker 1: Wow, so I'm trying to read here. Did she end
Speaker 1: up getting evacuated?
Speaker 2: She was removed on the first scheduled flight of the season. Officially,
Speaker 2: it was not any privilege given or her circumstance.
Speaker 1: Wow, So they didn't they didn't speed it up. But
Speaker 1: so that's scary because the Savannah syndrome. It's been back
Speaker 1: in the news again. It came out I think a
Speaker 1: few years after that, and they've been claiming that it's
Speaker 1: they being either the Three letter agencies and the media,
Speaker 1: which I don't really trust, either of them, claiming that, oh,
Speaker 1: it's some type of microwave weapon, which I guess it
Speaker 1: could be. You know, it's just a matter of what
Speaker 1: the wavelength is that we're talking about. But the thing
Speaker 1: that's scary about scaler weapons is that this stuff goes
Speaker 1: right through solid matter. You can have those beams go
Speaker 1: straight through solid matter. It doesn't matter if you've got
Speaker 1: concrete in the way, it's gonna go straight through it.
Speaker 1: And then you can reproduce that energy at a distance.
Speaker 1: And who knows what that does the human body. Thomas Bearden,
Speaker 1: who I believe you are familiar with, I've been, you know,
Speaker 1: going through a lot of his old videos and when
Speaker 1: he starts talking about this scaler interferometry, one of the
Speaker 1: other aspects of it is a medical healing aspect in
Speaker 1: terms of this kind of like time reversed wave they
Speaker 1: call it, which can kind of revert the state of
Speaker 1: the cell or you know, anything, back to its original position.
Speaker 1: It's definitely controversial to speak about. But now the opposite
Speaker 1: of that would be, you know, a weapon that can
Speaker 1: damn people, that can he argues past disease from one
Speaker 1: cell to the other, or you know, I imagine it can
Speaker 1: do some pretty horrific things out there. So are you
Speaker 1: then of the opinion that a lot of the Savannah
Speaker 1: syndrome stuff is coming from directed energy weapons like this,
Speaker 1: the stuff that people have been reporting in the military
Speaker 1: and the embassies, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, all of these weapons are you know, up
Speaker 2: the sleeves of our enemies six ways from Sunday with
Speaker 2: This is part of the issues that we need to
Speaker 2: realize the broad spectrum of stuff that's available in the
Speaker 2: market contemporarily. It's it's not like this just one thing,
Speaker 2: you know that's terrible. There's there's a lot. There's there's
Speaker 2: companies that have this stuff in market right now. So
Speaker 2: there was a company that was previously called l RAD
Speaker 2: and now they go by the name of Genesis, And
Speaker 2: these are companies that el commercially directed energy weapons systems.
Speaker 2: They are available currently for law enforcement, fire departments. They're
Speaker 2: they're sold under the guise of being hailing devices. Or
Speaker 2: long range communications devices for emergency use. But if you
Speaker 2: get trained on this stuff, you learn that there's you know,
Speaker 2: there's a dial and there's a green zone, there's a
Speaker 2: yellow zone, and there's a red zone. And you know,
Speaker 2: they say that the officials are trained to never put
Speaker 2: it into the red zone, you know, because then you
Speaker 2: can kill people. But my question would be, why do
Speaker 2: you even have a red zone on the dial to
Speaker 2: begin with. But these are the products that are commercially
Speaker 2: available to our overseers that you know, in a panic,
Speaker 2: next thing, you know, that dial goes to red and
Speaker 2: some scared police police officer just decimated a crowd with
Speaker 2: a microwave weapons blast. But these are the technologies that
Speaker 2: exist today. The trainings that are available for local law
Speaker 2: enforcement if they want to use a backpack deployable variant
Speaker 2: of this technology also exists, so that you know, if
Speaker 2: you have the right money and the right paperwork, this
Speaker 2: stuff is omnipresent in our society already.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was looking through this document about energy
Speaker 1: and in this there is a part I'm trying to
Speaker 1: find it down here. If I can't find it, I'll
Speaker 1: just dig straight to the images that I have that
Speaker 1: pretty much talks about directed energy weapons. Directed energy weapons
Speaker 1: have been getting talked about in the defense contractors for years,
Speaker 1: if not for decades. Yeah, here it is right here actually,
Speaker 1: so energy horizons, airspace, cyber infrastructure, under materials and systems
Speaker 1: under extreme conditions. We can see directed energy listed both
Speaker 1: for air and space right here as well. And also
Speaker 1: you can see propulsion listed for air as well in here,
Speaker 1: and then we can see our government partners here as well, NASA, NRO, NNGA.
Speaker 1: You know what scares me when I look at this
Speaker 1: particular clip right here is that the air part would
Speaker 1: be you know, we see OSD, Navy, NASA, FA. This
Speaker 1: is where I think we're talking about shooting beams out
Speaker 1: into the sky. When we look at the space one.
Speaker 1: Now I think, okay, well we've got this ice ice
Speaker 1: cubed neutrino detector or these harp radar antennas on the ground.
Speaker 1: Imagine if we have them in out of space on
Speaker 1: satellites shooting down, you have better field of view. I
Speaker 1: mean one of the big limitations is the field of
Speaker 1: view and how far you can shoot it. Now, I
Speaker 1: think they can bounce them off the ONA sphere, which
Speaker 1: makes them have huge, huge range. But if you have
Speaker 1: satellites that can do this, then you can just zap
Speaker 1: anyone on the whole planet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these are just different cogs in a machine. At
Speaker 2: that point, all these different and independent systems have what
Speaker 2: they can accomplish singularly. But then there's a lot to
Speaker 2: be said for firing up different systems and crossing the streams,
Speaker 2: so to say, of different systems with each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So people definitely need to be paying attention to
Speaker 1: these types of systems that we have out there and
Speaker 1: hopefully opening their mind to what we're capable of, especially
Speaker 1: when it comes to Havana syndrome as well. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: surprise me I think that if you know that we're
Speaker 1: being kind of led down a different path with the
Speaker 1: Havana syndrome stuff, because they don't want people looking at
Speaker 1: these types of systems wondering what can we pull off there?
Speaker 1: And then you know, like you said about the mass fatigue,
Speaker 1: imagine if this is a weapon that's not just hitting
Speaker 1: a single person, but you can hit like a huge
Speaker 1: body of people who are a group of people, a
Speaker 1: city of people with this type of technology. It does
Speaker 1: make you wonder about whether manipulation and those types of all. Now, Eric,
Speaker 1: when you were in Antarctica, what was like the impatches?
Speaker 1: When did you realize that something was wrong? I mean
Speaker 1: you may have already had, like you know, you didn't
Speaker 1: trust Raithion when you first went out there, but was
Speaker 1: there a moment where you were looking around, digging through stuff,
Speaker 1: looking through the utilities or whatever, where you thought, this
Speaker 1: doesn't seem right, there's something going on here.
Speaker 2: The first time where I had actual knowledge that things
Speaker 2: were not as presented and on the shadier side, was
Speaker 2: an event where I discovered that the ELF system that
Speaker 2: we had been officially told was was disabled to de energize,
Speaker 2: not functioning, and I learned that that was not true,
Speaker 2: that it absolutely was energized. The system was up and running.
Speaker 2: And I came to this knowledge just because I was
Speaker 2: trying to work on a circuit that was next to
Speaker 2: that circuit and because things weren't labeled correctly. I guess
Speaker 2: you would say, I had to, you know, check as
Speaker 2: to why, you know, some circuits were on that were
Speaker 2: supposed to be off. And that's when I learned that
Speaker 2: it was the ELF system. It was up and running,
Speaker 2: and that the circuit that I was looking to de
Speaker 2: energize was the next circuit over. So it was pretty
Speaker 2: much just suggested that I should just get back onto
Speaker 2: my task and you know, hustle up, because now the
Speaker 2: circuits had been safely identified.
Speaker 1: And what's your understanding of what the purpose of that
Speaker 1: ELF hardware is? That's probably the second device, right the
Speaker 1: ice cream nutrino detectors Number one, ELF is number two.
Speaker 2: ELF is number two. And again I would say that
Speaker 2: directed energy weapons platforms are multi faceted. So I'm going
Speaker 2: to make suggestions of the things that I believe can
Speaker 2: be accomplished with this type of technology. But I do
Speaker 2: not want to limit the list of things that these
Speaker 2: things can do just to my understanding and imagination, because
Speaker 2: I think that's one of the first problems we have
Speaker 2: with these systems is not appreciating how manifold they can be.
Speaker 1: That's fair, Yeah, go ahead, Uh, what do you think
Speaker 1: in regards.
Speaker 2: To the In regards to the ELF, it's been known
Speaker 2: for years that these systems work with submarine communications, so
Speaker 2: hence there would be secrecy that would want to be
Speaker 2: applied in that capacity alone. And then we get into
Speaker 2: the spectrum of the directed energy weapons side of it,
Speaker 2: and we can go from weather modification to earthquake manipulation
Speaker 2: to full blown insertion of thought into mind like a
Speaker 2: like a mind control consideration. These are all things that
Speaker 2: we have to lay at the feet of these massive
Speaker 2: transmitters that are operating on frequencies and doing things that
Speaker 2: you know their secret for a reason. But if we
Speaker 2: start to investigate what the paperwork says is possible, well,
Speaker 2: then that's what should be giving us pause when when
Speaker 2: people do the research and see that you know, well,
Speaker 2: these are the frequencies that they suggest intrusive thoughts could
Speaker 2: be applied.
Speaker 1: And the thing that I want to also harp upon here,
Speaker 1: and I don't mean that as a double entundra, but
Speaker 1: the thing with that, I think people need to understand
Speaker 1: about radar and detection systems that you've said many times
Speaker 1: as well as and it's not simply a passive device
Speaker 1: that is listening. The same technology that we use with
Speaker 1: radar is what can be used to create a phase
Speaker 1: conjugate effect where you now have your waves cancel each
Speaker 1: other out and you create this scaler potential which seems
Speaker 1: like you can imagine like an invisible beam of potential
Speaker 1: energy and then you can rebuild that energy at a distance.
Speaker 1: So when you think of it that way, radar is
Speaker 1: very easily converted into a weapon. And that's where I
Speaker 1: personally think a lot of this technology goes back to.
Speaker 1: And this is where I think my investigation, in Eric's
Speaker 1: investigation into what happened to Antarctica have this crossover is
Speaker 1: that we're just missing a very important aspect of physics
Speaker 1: that we have thrown out, and once you bring it
Speaker 1: back in, it gets really scary because then you start
Speaker 1: talking about a lot of crazy stuff being possible, you know,
Speaker 1: stuff that I think that you know, most people with this.
Speaker 2: And it's so easy. It's I mean, it's actually so
Speaker 2: easy to consider. I mean, one of the things that
Speaker 2: Tesla was getting at way back when was that here
Speaker 2: we are, we're all we're all actively functioning in the
Speaker 2: hurt seeing wavelength band. That's the section of the phenomena
Speaker 2: of electricity that we're utilizing. That's not the limit of anything.
Speaker 2: Like when you say scale ar or lognitudinal waves, that
Speaker 2: is still just yet another chapter in the book of
Speaker 2: electrical frequency. There's a lot more frequencies out there that
Speaker 2: we don't even bring into the conversation, but it's almost
Speaker 2: limitless when we look at the cosmos, like Tesla says,
Speaker 2: you know, frequency and vibration, there's a lot more than
Speaker 2: just simple hurt scene wavelength activity. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think Tesla was right personally, and I want to
Speaker 1: talk about with you about that in a little bit here.
Speaker 1: Real quick question before we move on from the ELF though,
Speaker 1: is I found this diagram on Antarctica's ELF website or
Speaker 1: some university's website here. Do you know any are you
Speaker 1: familiar with in these other locations? It's got South Pole
Speaker 1: listed here, but it's also got McMurdo and Palmer. Are
Speaker 1: these also stations? Have you heard of any of these
Speaker 1: by any chances?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yep. So I've been to McMurdo and to South Pole.
Speaker 2: I have not been to Palmer. But those are the
Speaker 2: three facilities that are operating as the United States Antarctic
Speaker 2: Program under the National Science Foundation. It's those three facilities
Speaker 2: that are considered the American aspect.
Speaker 1: So do you think they all have ELF antenna and
Speaker 1: transmitters on them? Sure?
Speaker 2: If the South Pole has the actual e L F antenna,
Speaker 2: I don't gather that McMurdo or Palmer would need the antenna,
Speaker 2: so to say. But I wouldn't be surprised if they
Speaker 2: weren't some sort of technology at their locations that afforded
Speaker 2: some sort of I guess the word I'm looking for
Speaker 2: would be like steerability targeting almost to assist in its
Speaker 2: delivery from south Pole. That by having, as you can
Speaker 2: see on the map, those two other facilities, that if
Speaker 2: the south Pole was to fire through them, I believe
Speaker 2: that there would be something utilized through the other two
Speaker 2: facilities to help in directing it to where it's supposed
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 1: And the thing that kind of creeps me out about
Speaker 1: this image that I'm looking at here is how you
Speaker 1: can see the lines on these and the infrometry zones
Speaker 1: on them as well. And in fact, just like a
Speaker 1: week or two ago, there was a weird anomaly there
Speaker 1: was actually like this size that we're looking at on
Speaker 1: this graph in this exact location that everybody was talking about.
Speaker 1: And this does make me wonder, especially when I go
Speaker 1: down to this next graph. We're talking about the participation
Speaker 1: precipitation region, and if we're talking about stuff like manipulating
Speaker 1: the weather, I'm sitting here wondering, like, why do I
Speaker 1: have all these interferometry zones and connection points between all
Speaker 1: these locations and these VLF receiver sites that are on
Speaker 1: this graph here. So it makes me wonder like, are
Speaker 1: we not just measuring the weather but potentially you know,
Speaker 1: impacting it as well. And yes, it does seem like,
Speaker 1: you know, for a lot of people out there, that's
Speaker 1: probably you know, we're pushing what they're willing to believe.
Speaker 1: But I think that once you start to dig into
Speaker 1: what Tesla was capable of, you'll start to realize that, like,
Speaker 1: our planet is one big capacitor, and if we manipulate
Speaker 1: this ionosphere magnetosphere, we can manipulate you know, the climate
Speaker 1: potentially and everything about our lives.
Speaker 2: There was a report from the Air Force back in
Speaker 2: the early eighties and I have this in my business.
Speaker 2: It was given to me back when it was a
Speaker 2: big deal in super secret and I was told to
Speaker 2: watch yourself with this, but it has since become much
Speaker 2: more public knowledge. But it was a report that the
Speaker 2: Air Force had about how they would have control of
Speaker 2: the weather by the year twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Wow, what if they got there lit early.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a research and development project, it wasn't maybe
Speaker 2: we'll pull this off. This was a report on what
Speaker 2: they were going to have direct control of by the
Speaker 2: year twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Some people in the chat right now too are saying
Speaker 1: that there's other bases around that have ELF transmitters like this,
Speaker 1: and if you were to imagine that all we need
Speaker 1: to do is create an interferometry zone that you'd want
Speaker 1: these kind of all over the planet or various locations
Speaker 1: where you can then just cross the streams on any
Speaker 1: point in the planet that you want. And like I
Speaker 1: was saying before, and take that and apply to satellites.
Speaker 1: Like we were just looking at that Navy paper, which
Speaker 1: I think i've I still have it open here. If
Speaker 1: I pull this back up again, you know, you look
Speaker 1: at this, it's like, you.
Speaker 2: Know, you got a lot of people discussing the SOSIS array.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, I don't think you get a lot of
Speaker 2: people that have any idea how extensive the SOSIS array is.
Speaker 1: That's been very relevant for my research. So little side note.
Speaker 1: I've been investigating MH three seven zero and people think, oh, well,
Speaker 1: this plane just crashed somewhere in the middle of the
Speaker 1: ocean and we're just never going to find it. We
Speaker 1: just didn't ever find it, and they kind of gave
Speaker 1: away the game when the Titan sub in uh near
Speaker 1: the Titanic imploded. This is a sub that only holds
Speaker 1: four people. It's a tiny little sub, and the Navy
Speaker 1: just comes out five days later, after every single cable
Speaker 1: news station's going how much oxygen do these people have left?
Speaker 1: And they go maybe goes, yeah, well we heard that
Speaker 1: implode like five days ago. We just didn't tell anybody.
Speaker 1: And by the way, we're going to go pick it
Speaker 1: up because we triangulate the exact position of it using
Speaker 1: our SOCIS system that's out there. Well spoiler, guys, that
Speaker 1: system was declassifying like twenty twelve. It's been out there
Speaker 1: for well over ten years. Like we can pinpoint acoustic
Speaker 1: sounds anywhere in the ocean, and I don't think people
Speaker 1: realize that. Do you have any other insights to the
Speaker 1: SOCIA system?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it pervades every inch of every wet spot on
Speaker 2: the planet.
Speaker 1: Really, how did you find out about it?
Speaker 2: I was in the submarine service for a short period
Speaker 2: of time.
Speaker 1: Oh so you knew about it before the Titan sub.
Speaker 2: I knew about it in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, So this is guys like if you are
Speaker 1: out there and you are in let's say ufology, and
Speaker 1: you've been hearing about these USOS unidentified submersible objects that
Speaker 1: have been moving really fast. Like the Navy and the
Speaker 1: military knows what's going on in the water. We've got
Speaker 1: these acoustic systems that are out there. We have to
Speaker 1: be extremely naive to think that something that crashes into
Speaker 1: the ocean or is moving around to the ocean that
Speaker 1: we're not that we're not hearing it out there and all.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of frequencies these things give off
Speaker 1: are very unique as well. It's not like, oh, we're
Speaker 1: accidentally hearing whales or something like that. There was sophisticated systems.
Speaker 2: Like Eric just said, I actually went out with it.
Speaker 2: There's a TV series called The Alaska Triangle. So I
Speaker 2: got contacted by them and I went and filmed an
Speaker 2: episode in season two, episode nine. They sent me out
Speaker 2: to catch a can Alaska to locate unidentified submerged objects.
Speaker 2: They basically said, there's been reports out here and do
Speaker 2: you think with what you know in your skill set,
Speaker 2: do you think you can go track these things down?
Speaker 2: And I said sure, So I actually went with the
Speaker 2: Alaska Triangle crew located a underwater spot where there was
Speaker 2: unidentified submerged object activity. The production through the captain, everybody
Speaker 2: was all excited as we were recording every bit of it,
Speaker 2: and everybody was being all congratulatory, Oh you know, you
Speaker 2: found it. Well, they edited all of that out from
Speaker 2: the episode.
Speaker 1: They edited you out, or just that part about you
Speaker 1: find it.
Speaker 2: Edited out the activity of finding it. So they played
Speaker 2: all of the parts where we were searching and hunting
Speaker 2: and the statements being made by me like oh, not
Speaker 2: finding anything here, you know, just natural. Like they really
Speaker 2: pushed out the part of not finding and removed the
Speaker 2: part of finding. Wow.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the sociystem system thing is is pretty wild.
Speaker 1: I was just reading through it right there on the
Speaker 1: Wikipedia of it, and it goes back even much further
Speaker 1: than I thought. So I think that our surveillance apparatus
Speaker 1: is another thing in my opinion, people need to get
Speaker 1: their their minds around. It's not just direct energy weapons,
Speaker 1: but like we are seeing and hearing everything that's going
Speaker 1: on on our planet. There is no hiding anywhere in
Speaker 1: the shin or anything like that.
Speaker 2: Oh not at all, And that's that's where all the
Speaker 2: real activity is going on on this planet. You know,
Speaker 2: seventy percent of the world is covered in water, and
Speaker 2: I can tell you right now whatever is happening below
Speaker 2: the surface of the waves. Dead men tell no tales
Speaker 2: and history books are written by the victors. So whatever
Speaker 2: the winning submarine captain says happened, that's what happened.
Speaker 1: That's scary, man, especially for somebody like you, sir, who
Speaker 1: has actually, you know, worked on submarines before. So what
Speaker 1: about did you have any experiences with or what can
Speaker 1: you tell me about the ro the hardware system that's
Speaker 1: out there on Antarctica.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, oh Aro, yes, s are you getting that's
Speaker 2: the double air.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that one later. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So ar was the Atmospheric Research Observatory at the
Speaker 2: South Pole Station. It was run by Noah, which people
Speaker 2: are learning has a very interesting there you go.
Speaker 1: That's a great shot green laser beams. That's yeah, nothing
Speaker 1: nothing suspicious there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, please disperse. And that actually looks to not be
Speaker 2: the Arrow building because it's too small, So that appears
Speaker 2: to be some other facility. What is this article calling that?
Speaker 1: It says the Space Agency's Research Station an Arctica doesn't.
Speaker 2: So that's a different facility with a La Concordia. Oh, Concordia, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Concordia station. So is that a separate area in the same,
Speaker 2: completely different facility than the one that I was at.
Speaker 2: So now we're just seeing, you know, more of this
Speaker 2: freaky green laser activity. The research that I have done
Speaker 2: has made me understand that these lasers, especially green ones,
Speaker 2: take a ridiculous amount of energy to fire for fractions
Speaker 2: of a second. But I can tell you that with
Speaker 2: my own eyes I observed the unit firing from the
Speaker 2: arrow building at south Pole for many minutes on end.
Speaker 1: I think I read yesterday that they fire for like
Speaker 1: every hour, every thirty minutes, for like five minutes straight
Speaker 1: or something. Does that sound right to you? What do
Speaker 1: you think that they're.
Speaker 2: I've never heard frequency on it. It was from my
Speaker 2: perspective when I was there, it was made out like
Speaker 2: it was some sort of you know, random thing that
Speaker 2: they did sometimes and sometimes I would see it, sometimes
Speaker 2: I didn't. But there certainly plenty of times that I
Speaker 2: would not be looking in that direction, and it could
Speaker 2: have been firing every fifteen minutes for all I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. All I know is I see green
Speaker 1: laser beams. I'm going out, soide I'm painting my roof blue.
Speaker 1: I'm just just to be safe. But this actually says
Speaker 1: in this article that is emitted for every every or
Speaker 1: for sixty seconds every five minutes during the wintertime, which
Speaker 1: is pretty bizarre. It says what it's used is to
Speaker 1: measure the likes of temperature, cloud formations and airsol particles,
Speaker 1: which seems pretty mundane to me. Do you have any
Speaker 1: other thoughts about what other uses might there might be
Speaker 1: for something like this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I believe that all of these systems
Speaker 2: can provide for the benign primary purpose they're presented. That's
Speaker 2: the cover story. Cool, But then we have to, as
Speaker 2: human beings applied discernment and look at what else these
Speaker 2: systems can also do and then question whether people would
Speaker 2: be doing that. So in regards to what else can
Speaker 2: this system do besides whether observations and atmosphere considerations, we
Speaker 2: have to look at what the technology of chemical lasers
Speaker 2: are and some options for very long range laser like communications.
Speaker 2: These are technologies that are on the table for being
Speaker 2: discussed as something we might be able to do in
Speaker 2: the future. But I think enough precedent has been set
Speaker 2: that we the people of this planet are learning that
Speaker 2: for the most part, by this time that something gets
Speaker 2: to market for them to bill us for a product
Speaker 2: that we've already invested in decades ago, for the research
Speaker 2: and development for these technologies to be used for war,
Speaker 2: or a few decades first before we the people are
Speaker 2: then tolerated the benefit of the technological advancement of our investment.
Speaker 2: Is just a sad state of where we are, but
Speaker 2: it's it's observable. So these are just again new technologies
Speaker 2: that we are becoming privy to after decades of use
Speaker 2: by the military industrial complex to kill people. Now they're
Speaker 2: just like, well, right, well, we're done killing people with
Speaker 2: these technologies, but boy, we're about to profit. This is
Speaker 2: profit season now.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And for the people that don't believe, you know,
Speaker 1: just take a look at this report that I've pulled
Speaker 1: up here directly from the Air Force. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: taking it seriously. So this is the part where it
Speaker 1: seems like a lot of that information is just out
Speaker 1: there for people, and that's the part of the scary.
Speaker 1: So one of the things I've heard you say about
Speaker 1: maybe the green laser beams are maybe all of it combined,
Speaker 1: is the idea of fashion like communication. Do you believe
Speaker 1: that that's one of the capabilities is that of the
Speaker 1: potentially the Antarctic facility or other ones?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? And I do have scientific paperwork in the archive
Speaker 2: section on my website which supports the plausibility of such technology.
Speaker 2: Is that when we get into phase or A transmitters
Speaker 2: constructed similarly to the unit the ice cube nutrino detecting
Speaker 2: unit at the South Pole. I mean, this is this
Speaker 2: is how they would do it. This is what we're
Speaker 2: looking for. This is the science. You know, Oh, you
Speaker 2: got to trust the science, Well, trust me. This is
Speaker 2: this is the science of quantum entangled you know, faster
Speaker 2: than like communications. There are folks out there before me,
Speaker 2: before you, that have let us know that there is
Speaker 2: an off is an off world fleet. I mean, what
Speaker 2: are we going to do? This is just the cards
Speaker 2: that we've been dealt. If you're going to have vessels
Speaker 2: leaving this planet and going at great distances to accomplish
Speaker 2: whatever it is you're putting them to task to do,
Speaker 2: you're going to need to have a communications system to
Speaker 2: keep in touch with them, and the South Pole station
Speaker 2: has that capacity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that this is something that I talked
Speaker 1: with Professor Simon Howell. He's got a YouTube channel you
Speaker 1: guys can check out, and he has a contact that
Speaker 1: worked with I think it's like the European SETI, and
Speaker 1: SETI is the organization that is trying to look for
Speaker 1: signals out there. That basically told him we've received signals,
Speaker 1: but not just have we received signals, but that we
Speaker 1: have fashion like communication and we've been covering it up.
Speaker 1: And before people discount that, I would say, go look
Speaker 1: up gun or Nimitz. I went and looked him up,
Speaker 1: and he has a very specific scientific experiment that he
Speaker 1: set up with prisms where he was able to show
Speaker 1: that when the light he reflects the light off of
Speaker 1: one prism and it goes to the next prism, and
Speaker 1: the distance here is traversed instantaneously. The moment that the
Speaker 1: light laser beam exits the one prism, it enters the
Speaker 1: next prism instantly. He was supposed to do a presentation
Speaker 1: in like two thousand and five two thousand and six
Speaker 1: just didn't show up. It seems like a repeat thing.
Speaker 1: And then twenty nineteen, some students or maybe they're I
Speaker 1: don't know if they are physics students, but they were
Speaker 1: at a competition, and I think it was in Germany,
Speaker 1: and they proved the experiment worked, and it's they've gone
Speaker 1: and redone the experiment to actually detect if it's moving
Speaker 1: faster than the speed of light communication and they measured
Speaker 1: it at like twenty four attoseconds, which is some minuscule
Speaker 1: number out there. So I would urge people not to
Speaker 1: just discount these claims just on the basis of not
Speaker 1: believing it to be possible.
Speaker 2: So there's so many things that we haven't I mean,
Speaker 2: our brains haven't even imagined what's possible, and we're still
Speaker 2: limiting ourselves to a definition that's ludicrous, like similar to
Speaker 2: what you were just saying. They now have gemstones for
Speaker 2: lack of a better term, that can be you know,
Speaker 2: cut so that the surfaces are arranged in a particular fashion,
Speaker 2: and then they can rotate these gems at a high
Speaker 2: rate of speed so that when they inject light into
Speaker 2: one of the cut surfaces, that now, because of the
Speaker 2: rotation of the gem and its surfaces, now that gem
Speaker 2: will actually bounce the light around inside and contain it.
Speaker 2: And this is a whole other new direction of science
Speaker 2: because now if you can put this light into this
Speaker 2: gemstone and contain it. There's again, now there's conversations are on.
Speaker 2: You know, have you just created a whole new world?
Speaker 2: Is this a new dimension? What's going on in there?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Experiments? I mean it's it's talking about holding the
Speaker 1: photons into superposition using specific lattice structures is usually what
Speaker 1: they talk When we're talking about crystals, we're talking about
Speaker 1: like the crystalline structure of the atoms being set up
Speaker 1: in a very specific way, organized way which can allow
Speaker 1: some of those It's very similar to the idea of
Speaker 1: a meta material.
Speaker 2: And then we get into peculiar rules and regulations of physics,
Speaker 2: where now we start talking about things being you know,
Speaker 2: superimposed in every direction, which means that what we're looking
Speaker 2: at is all possibility at once. It's like what we
Speaker 2: what do we even talk like this? It starts to
Speaker 2: get really profound and fast because then people start talking
Speaker 2: about creator and creation and you know what, what what
Speaker 2: do these things mean? You know? What is it?
Speaker 1: Oh? Sorry? Someone in the chat pointed out piesol electrics
Speaker 1: as well, which you talk about the pyramids. People have
Speaker 1: argued that the pyramid might have been a pizol electric
Speaker 1: type of power plant when you talk about some types
Speaker 1: of crystals, when we're talking about pies of electrics, like
Speaker 1: quartzes as a pies of electric crystal. They use it
Speaker 1: in people's watches that don't have any batteries because when
Speaker 1: you squeeze it, it produces electricity. So there's already magic
Speaker 1: out there that people don't even realize on their day
Speaker 1: to day basis. But what do you think you know,
Speaker 1: given what you've gone through and what you've experienced, what
Speaker 1: do you think the nature of our universe is?
Speaker 2: What is this?
Speaker 1: How has this changed you spiritually or in those aspects?
Speaker 2: Ah, that great question, But my understanding of things would
Speaker 2: be its way less material and more energetic. It's life
Speaker 2: is more verb than down. It's more about action and
Speaker 2: decision in doing than it is about possessing or having
Speaker 2: or wanting. So I think that there's I guess power
Speaker 2: two deciding something, and a lot of intention and investment
Speaker 2: has been spent to make the vast majority of people
Speaker 2: wishy washy, and that if people just simply chose to
Speaker 2: do something in the world around them, that it would
Speaker 2: have a lot more impact than they've previously considered, and
Speaker 2: that people should feel more empowered to take part in
Speaker 2: their community and make decisions in do wherever you are,
Speaker 2: wherever you may be, do whatever you think is right always,
Speaker 2: and do that as much as you can. Because there
Speaker 2: seems to be technology investment, whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 2: by a new definition that wants people to do less.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: I mean I like that because what I've been throwing
Speaker 1: out there is this idea of the only way that
Speaker 1: a lot of this technology is possible, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: is that the holographic principle must be correct. And a
Speaker 1: lot of people say, well, that means that we live
Speaker 1: in a simulation and that life doesn't matter. And I
Speaker 1: want to tell people the opposite, And I think that
Speaker 1: what you just mentioned, it's like, when you look at this,
Speaker 1: it should bring people hope. In my opinion, it should
Speaker 1: tell you this is a world that you can make
Speaker 1: a huge difference in, that you can help build up,
Speaker 1: that you can make a better place for people. And
Speaker 1: that's how I see it. So I don't know what
Speaker 1: is your would you agree? Is that a good characterization
Speaker 1: of your opinion?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Like, I think the power of the intention of
Speaker 2: each individual and then collectively as a group is so
Speaker 2: obviously important that we can observe by how much investment
Speaker 2: is already applied to make sure that we are of
Speaker 2: a unified opinion of something. But currently it just happens
Speaker 2: to be to the to the bid, to the highest bidder.
Speaker 2: But we can obviously see that there is intent and
Speaker 2: investment on what the mass of the population considers. That's
Speaker 2: that's paid for, that's observable. We can we can speak
Speaker 2: for hours on end about what's being most invested at
Speaker 2: this point in time, which is causing the most conversation
Speaker 2: amongst the most people. I mean, this is just marketing
Speaker 2: one on one at this point and observable, but certainly
Speaker 2: that activity is going on the minds of the masses
Speaker 2: are wholely owned at this point.
Speaker 1: Social media was a mistake. You just heard it right
Speaker 1: here from Eric. They've taken control of our minds. That's
Speaker 1: probably the only thing more powerful than a directed energy
Speaker 1: weapon or a neutrino unquote.
Speaker 2: Also provable by science, because there's an easy experiment that
Speaker 2: we can apply right now. Right, if I'm wrong, right,
Speaker 2: if all of you are not addicted to your technology,
Speaker 2: the only thing you have to do to prove me
Speaker 2: wrong is simply walk away from it right now.
Speaker 1: Sorry I didn't hear that, right, I was too busy
Speaker 1: tweeting my faults.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean they had the plank challenge
Speaker 2: back in the day, right, you know, thirty seconds of
Speaker 2: planking increased to a minute to five minutes. I challenge
Speaker 2: people to do that with their technology. If you're not addicted,
Speaker 2: it should just simply be easy. You know, how long
Speaker 2: can you spend away from your phone? How long can
Speaker 2: you exit your house and go somewhere without it?
Speaker 1: And I think that's a great challenge for everybody who's
Speaker 1: out there is watching. Not right now, just to make
Speaker 1: sure you still watch this interview, but after this interview,
Speaker 1: maybe go for a walk, just get outside, get away
Speaker 1: from the computer for a little bit. I think that
Speaker 1: would do all of us some good. Now, going back
Speaker 1: to Antarctica real quick, and then I want to talk
Speaker 1: to you about just broader suppression and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Did you have any let's say, scary experiences while you're
Speaker 1: out there. What was the scariest experience that you potentially had,
Speaker 1: you know, being part of the fire brigade if you
Speaker 1: want to call it that, or stuff that's out.
Speaker 2: There, Yeah, they're there. Absolutely were moments of sheer terror
Speaker 2: in between the benign mundane, you know, routine stuff. One
Speaker 2: story in particular was we had alarms go off, which
Speaker 2: was common, you know, things went into alarm and we
Speaker 2: would you know, get fired up and gear up and
Speaker 2: do what we have to do. But on this particular occasion,
Speaker 2: the alarm had come in that it was for the
Speaker 2: balloon inflation facility, which was on the lower level of
Speaker 2: what we referred to as cryo. So if the biff,
Speaker 2: if the balloon inflation facility was in fact on fire,
Speaker 2: that means that it could continue to burn up and
Speaker 2: over to the cryogenic facility. And the cryo facility had
Speaker 2: about a half a million gallons of chilled helium and
Speaker 2: it was chilled down to four degrees kelvin, which is
Speaker 2: quite cold. And it was our understanding and the training
Speaker 2: that we got for all the different facilities and the
Speaker 2: dangers as first responders was that any leak on the
Speaker 2: cryosystem is catastrophic. That it would go from basically contained
Speaker 2: and functioning to a leak that would then go to
Speaker 2: a catastrophic like a Blevy situation because the expansion rate
Speaker 2: of helium at that temperature to the atmospheres about four
Speaker 2: hundred fifty to one, so it would have been a
Speaker 2: discharge of nominal proportions. And on this particular event, we
Speaker 2: were alarming that this building was on fire, so myself
Speaker 2: and my colleague went to our lockers in due form
Speaker 2: and because we would have to exit the building in
Speaker 2: winter conditions at the south pole. When we had this
Speaker 2: type of circumstance, we would start dressing the other person
Speaker 2: so that all of their gear was in the right
Speaker 2: spots for the temperature and not breaking hoses and stuff.
Speaker 2: We were going full SCBA, like full bunker gear fire
Speaker 2: response for these types of events, so we had to
Speaker 2: do things in a way that kept the gear from breaking,
Speaker 2: and it was stuff that we learned from trial and error,
Speaker 2: so we would always just make sure we would set
Speaker 2: the other person up correctly and the process of gearing
Speaker 2: each other up. We have our LMR radios which are
Speaker 2: just you know, like you've seen the police and fire
Speaker 2: department use with the lapel mics, and we were listening
Speaker 2: to Team one, who is our first responders when an
Speaker 2: alarm or an event occurs, and what they basically do
Speaker 2: is when myself and my team starts running to the
Speaker 2: lockers to gear up with the bunker gear and SCBAs
Speaker 2: this team. Team one just goes straight to the site
Speaker 2: of the alarm to gather intel and confirm whether or
Speaker 2: not the alarm is legitimate. So in this circumstance, we
Speaker 2: were getting geared up listening to the radio chatter for
Speaker 2: Team one arriving unseen and then letting us know that
Speaker 2: it was in fact a fully employed fire coming out
Speaker 2: of the balloon Inflation facility and that they were waving
Speaker 2: off because they did their job. So then my collead
Speaker 2: and I were to respond to what was now called
Speaker 2: in as a confirmed active fire at the Balloon Inflation Facility.
Speaker 2: And there we were geared up with you know, fire
Speaker 2: extinguishers over our shoulders because we didn't have fire trucks.
Speaker 2: We were the fire trucks and we had our extinguishers,
Speaker 2: and we were walking towards that building and it was
Speaker 2: extremely dark. It was moonlit. It was backlit that night,
Speaker 2: and I remember I was terrified because I just I
Speaker 2: kept thinking that I'm I'm about to see this building
Speaker 2: just explode. I'm going to watch it go round for
Speaker 2: like a fraction of a second. I'm going to get
Speaker 2: to see this building swell out and then that wall
Speaker 2: is just going to come across the ice and hit
Speaker 2: me in the face at mock twelve. And that's I
Speaker 2: just I thought that we were walking to our death.
Speaker 2: The split second they confirmed it on the radio, She
Speaker 2: and I we just stopped communicating. We just went through
Speaker 2: the motions. Everything just went nonverbal. We grabbed our stuff,
Speaker 2: we walked in the direction that we were obliged to walk,
Speaker 2: and yeah, I just I didn't think we were gonna
Speaker 2: make it. But long story short, we got to the facility.
Speaker 2: There was a hot air furnace that had an issue
Speaker 2: and there's smoke pouring out of that, and we extinguished
Speaker 2: that situation. Everything was hunky dory, and it was just
Speaker 2: terrifying for the time being.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and for people that don't respect how scary that is.
Speaker 1: There's been several videos of like chemical plant explosions that
Speaker 1: have been on the internet over the last ten years,
Speaker 1: and they are some of the biggest explosions I've ever seen,
Speaker 1: Like people see them from a distance. One I remember specifically,
Speaker 1: a guy is in texts with his daughter in the
Speaker 1: car and they see this plant exploding like in the distance,
Speaker 1: and they don't realize how huge explosion's gonna be and
Speaker 1: it ends up blowing over the whole car, potentially blowing
Speaker 1: out their ear drums. And like that's how just like
Speaker 1: in one moment you see this tiny explosion. Next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole screen is just yellow and orange
Speaker 1: and red. And that's why you can imagine from Eric's
Speaker 1: perspective walking towards that going, yeah, there's a fire and
Speaker 1: it's next to half a million pounds of helium four,
Speaker 1: which I want to ask about here in a second,
Speaker 1: how you could think that. I mean, if if that
Speaker 1: blows up, it's gonna happen, it's gonna be over instantaneously.
Speaker 1: All like you said, all you're gonna see is something
Speaker 1: coming at you. And then that's it extremely scary. So
Speaker 1: I think you're you're definitely brave to do that job
Speaker 1: out there for sure. Now, why do you think that
Speaker 1: they had I think you said in our pre call
Speaker 1: there was like four hundred and fifty thousand pounds of
Speaker 1: helium four out there. That seems pretty interesting that they've.
Speaker 2: Got all that. It was gallons, four hundred gallon, five
Speaker 2: hundred thousand gallons of it.
Speaker 1: I should probably use my unise of measurement correctly for
Speaker 1: liquids or gas.
Speaker 2: So the the known usage uses of it were for
Speaker 2: the South Pole telescope that on the focal plane, which
Speaker 2: is the sensor array for that device to look into
Speaker 2: the cosmos. It's not optical like glass. It's a sensor
Speaker 2: setup that they call the focal plane, and the chilled
Speaker 2: helium goes from storage temperature of four degrees kelvin. They
Speaker 2: then reduce it down lower to a quarter of a
Speaker 2: degree above kelvin, and then that's the temperature on the
Speaker 2: focal plane so that they can then look outwardly into
Speaker 2: the cosmos and have an, you know, unfettered view of
Speaker 2: what's going on.
Speaker 1: So this is getting me suspicious, Eric, because liquid helium
Speaker 1: is one of the rare elements that produces Bose Einstein
Speaker 1: condensate at absolute zero temperatures. It's a superfluid, so it
Speaker 1: becomes this liquid where it creates it gets bosonic properties.
Speaker 1: And for the people that are out there that don't know,
Speaker 1: the difference between a fermion and a boson is whether
Speaker 1: or not it can compac down to a single point.
Speaker 1: So a fermion would be anything like my phone. The
Speaker 1: structure of the atoms my phone that means that it
Speaker 1: all is in separate spots, has this mass that I
Speaker 1: hold on to. But when you get to bosonic situations,
Speaker 1: that's like a laser beam where you can focus the
Speaker 1: photons down to a single point. And this is where
Speaker 1: the idea of a Bose Einstein contentstate comes into play.
Speaker 1: Now you can see here either or liquefied helium three.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm saying the wrong one here. They said they
Speaker 1: found they formed two atom cooper pairs, which are bosonic
Speaker 1: and condensed contents condensed into a superfluid. These cooper pairs
Speaker 1: are substantially larger than inter atomic separation. This is also
Speaker 1: the explanation that we are given on superconductivity, is that
Speaker 1: electrons form cooper pairs. And then when you read the
Speaker 1: uses for liquid helium, it says it's commercially used for
Speaker 1: super conducting magnets. Which the thing that I found for
Speaker 1: my research is there's two things that are extremely important
Speaker 1: for magical technology, and number one is superconductivity. Superconductivity the
Speaker 1: idea of the electrons flowing freely and producing a coherent
Speaker 1: wave is where we're getting some of these macroscopic quantum effects.
Speaker 1: This is you know when I say macroscopic quantum. Just
Speaker 1: imagine magic happening. And then the other thing is we
Speaker 1: need very small microchips and processors and transistors. And you
Speaker 1: know this is where if you dig into semiconductor companies,
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of them, and a lot of
Speaker 1: them are in Taiwan and their stock val you have
Speaker 1: just been going straight up into the air. So when
Speaker 1: you tell me that there's four hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 1: gallons of rare helium three that's been super cool to
Speaker 1: its Bose Einstein condensate levels, definitely has got me scratching
Speaker 1: my head a little bit. If anyone out there is
Speaker 1: listening or watching wants to leave a comment in the
Speaker 1: chat on YouTube about what they think this might be
Speaker 1: getting used for if there is some connection to super
Speaker 1: conductivity related to this telescope to have, would love to
Speaker 1: hear your guys thoughts. Awesome, So any other you know,
Speaker 1: either hardware that might be out there that we're not
Speaker 1: familiar with, or is there any other stories relevant to
Speaker 1: the Antarctica kind of time that you spent out there
Speaker 1: that you think are worthy to know and if not,
Speaker 1: you know, what would you want people to know you
Speaker 1: know about your experience.
Speaker 2: I think I think that my experience is similar to
Speaker 2: everyone else, is I'm just connecting the dots faster. I
Speaker 2: think we all are suffering like the walking wounded in
Speaker 2: this modern day battlefield, and I just happened to be
Speaker 2: with the team with a crew that became privy to
Speaker 2: this situation first and foremost, and that we're just trying
Speaker 2: to let everybody else know because they're they're in the
Speaker 2: same throes of war and I don't want to. I
Speaker 2: don't like seeing anybody get sucker punched. And right now,
Speaker 2: everybody's getting sucker punched, and it's just not right because
Speaker 2: people aren't aware of the enemies that they have around them.
Speaker 1: And so then to change gears, How did you start
Speaker 1: to be able to connect those dots? When was the
Speaker 1: point for you where you learned about the capabilities of
Speaker 1: this type of technology and from me digging into it,
Speaker 1: especially directed energy weapons off people think that that's, you know, wow,
Speaker 1: that's some new technologies out there, But it looks like
Speaker 1: it's been out there since at least the eighties, so
Speaker 1: that might be the old.
Speaker 2: I guess for me, officially, it would have started with
Speaker 2: my time, my short exposure to the submarine service back
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety four. And you know, these are the
Speaker 2: facts of the matter. Right. When I was in basic
Speaker 2: enlisted submarine school, we watched the movie The Hunt for
Speaker 2: Red October because it was a teaching mechanism. We were
Speaker 2: educated that Tom Clancy's not an author. The Hunt for
Speaker 2: Red October is not a fictional tell you can add,
Speaker 2: there's so many complexities that come from this truth. Right,
Speaker 2: But long story short, in the movie The Hunt for
Speaker 2: Red October, which is a documentary how we got the
Speaker 2: Sea Wolf class submarines, but there's something mentioned in that movie,
Speaker 2: and that is known as that magneto hydrodynamic drive. That's
Speaker 2: the most important part of that movie that they just
Speaker 2: gloss right over. But it's the technology that allows the
Speaker 2: Red October to provide that caterpillar drive, that silent drive,
Speaker 2: the interaction of massive amounts of power to the medium
Speaker 2: of water to provide thrust and flow. Because so is
Speaker 2: that right, there is the door to walk through when
Speaker 2: it gets into the concept of propulsion systems that people
Speaker 2: would consider off world or UFO or UAP, because the
Speaker 2: only difference for a magneto hydro dynamic drive on a
Speaker 2: submarine the medium of the water going through it is
Speaker 2: no different from the scientific standpoint than the medium of
Speaker 2: the atmosphere, which is just a la a less dense
Speaker 2: version of the ocean. So it would just simply require
Speaker 2: more power. And it turns out that more power isn't
Speaker 2: actually a problem, like our military industrial complex would want
Speaker 2: us to believe that having power at infinite amounts is
Speaker 2: a challenge, when you overcome that obstacle and you have
Speaker 2: copious amounts of power available for any harmonious system that
Speaker 2: you want to build, I mean literally, the sky is
Speaker 2: the limit is a funny way of putting it, because
Speaker 2: it certainly wouldn't be a limit at that point.
Speaker 1: Well, that's a really good insight because I had never
Speaker 1: really considered the idea that submarines might use this technology.
Speaker 1: But I did watch a couple months ago a YouTube
Speaker 1: video where someone built one of these using a three
Speaker 1: D printer, and they made it more and more efficient.
Speaker 1: There was no moving parts, it was just magnets and
Speaker 1: electrical current and it created a propulsion effect and it
Speaker 1: was actually pretty powerful and it looked actually very similar
Speaker 1: to this picture here on the right, and it.
Speaker 2: Looks like a Hubbard battery design.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and My guess is that given if some guy
Speaker 1: on YouTube was able to put one together that you know,
Speaker 1: produced like you know, you could see the thing moving
Speaker 1: like pretty fast, that the Navy and the government with
Speaker 1: their defense contractors probably can make some pretty incredible stuff
Speaker 1: with this. So this was your first for it, okay,
Speaker 1: in the hunt for Red October, and you experienced that.
Speaker 1: So you, if I'm gathering correctly, you saw some crazy
Speaker 1: stuff with your time, you know, working on submarines, and
Speaker 1: that led you to, you know, ask the question, what
Speaker 1: are we really capable of?
Speaker 2: Absolutely yep. I became aware in nineteen ninety four that
Speaker 2: Los Angeles class submarine was pretty much the greatest testament
Speaker 2: to the technological advancement of man that almost no man
Speaker 2: will ever get to see. That there was stuff going
Speaker 2: on that people it was just beyond their understanding. And
Speaker 2: we know this stuff. We know, this is how the
Speaker 2: government works, we know this is how our money gets invested.
Speaker 2: I'm just letting folks know that, Yeah, I happened to
Speaker 2: get my foot in the door in the submarine service
Speaker 2: and witness firsthand that Yes, it's not how far ahead
Speaker 2: of the curve they.
Speaker 1: Are that's wild. And I have heard some rumors that
Speaker 1: some submarines might even use some types of over unity
Speaker 1: devices because the benefit there is you're not there's no
Speaker 1: like electromagnetic signals coming out from your your submarine. The
Speaker 1: ideas you want to be quiet in your submarine, right,
Speaker 1: you don't want anyone to be able to know.
Speaker 2: Quiet by definition is just not putting out observable frequencies
Speaker 2: by any definition. So if you can switch your frequency
Speaker 2: to something that's not being observed, well there's a win.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, guys, I hope you were listening to this.
Speaker 1: We might be giving away military secrets here, but I
Speaker 1: think our adversaries already know about it, so hopefully we're
Speaker 1: just educating the public there.
Speaker 2: Everything I do is for we, the people of this planet,
Speaker 2: because unfortunately, lunatics by every definition, have decided to represent
Speaker 2: we the people of this planet, as if we're all
Speaker 2: against each other, which is obviously not the case. We
Speaker 2: the common people on this planet, have everything in common
Speaker 2: and we deserve better than what the lunatics that pretend
Speaker 2: to represent our best interest have been providing with the
Speaker 2: money that we've invested towards them, and that's something that
Speaker 2: I like, we have not failed them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, That's something my buddy Jake Chancelly has said a lot.
Speaker 1: I've run across him. He's known as the Shaman of
Speaker 1: January sixth, but turns out he's a really smart dude.
Speaker 1: And more of the big questions. I asked him as well,
Speaker 1: you know, is it safe to get this technology out
Speaker 1: to the public. I quarreled with it internally myself. He
Speaker 1: came back and said, well, the worst people on the
Speaker 1: planet already have it, so how can it get any
Speaker 1: worse than that?
Speaker 2: Might as well let some of the good people have
Speaker 2: some access. Yeah, right, Yeah, I follow that logic one
Speaker 2: thousand percent. I believe that we the people are way
Speaker 2: more resilient, way more adaptable to the truth than those
Speaker 2: that would withhold it wants us to believe. And these
Speaker 2: statements to the opposite that you know, oh, people would
Speaker 2: freak out, people couldn't hit. That's part of the paid
Speaker 2: propaganda to get people to believe that we the people
Speaker 2: can't handle any reality. Of course, we can handle any reality.
Speaker 2: It's reality where real people were part of it. We'll
Speaker 2: always be able to deal with the punches for life.
Speaker 2: Let them rip. Let's just let's see what's really going
Speaker 2: on and watch how rapidly the people can mitigate any
Speaker 2: problem that they become aware of.
Speaker 1: So how do you think do you have any thoughts
Speaker 1: on how to get this information out there to the people?
Speaker 1: Like the WI Files just did a big episode about
Speaker 1: free energy and they said, well, just make the schematics
Speaker 1: publicly available, you know, don't patent it. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: I necessarily agree, but I'm not sure there's any easy answers.
Speaker 1: But what is your thought.
Speaker 2: I think that I kind of do lean in the
Speaker 2: direction of that suggestion, because it does seem that open
Speaker 2: so stuff would be the faster avenue to the freedom
Speaker 2: of information and the use of the people. With that
Speaker 2: being said, the question in general, like what do I
Speaker 2: feeble to do about this stuff is just continue to
Speaker 2: fight the fight. I have been trying to get the
Speaker 2: truth out for a few years now, and what I'm
Speaker 2: learning again, and this is my direct first hand experience
Speaker 2: that I need to warn all of the listeners about
Speaker 2: there the vast majority of these content creators are shills, charlatans,
Speaker 2: on men, profiteers, federal agents, you name it. What they
Speaker 2: don't care about is the truth. What they do care
Speaker 2: about is who likes them and making sure that they
Speaker 2: speak stuff that's pleasantries because they don't want to offend
Speaker 2: any part of their demograph.
Speaker 1: Wow, that was really well put. I might have to
Speaker 1: clip that later because that's exactly how I view a
Speaker 1: lot of the UFO community, a lot of podcasters and
Speaker 1: reaction to birds. There are some real ones that are
Speaker 1: out there, and I appreciate them a lot. Far between, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's few and far between. It's a lot of people.
Speaker 1: As the problem is, once you put the profit motive
Speaker 1: in there, and I call it the Reddit syndrome as well,
Speaker 1: where it becomes less about what you're saying and whether
Speaker 1: or not what you're saying is the truth, and more
Speaker 1: about how what you say makes people feel. And that's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like a post truth world at that point. It's, Oh,
Speaker 1: you're telling.
Speaker 2: Me everything's all love and light and if you don't
Speaker 2: raise your frequency high enough, you're not going to impact
Speaker 2: anybody positively because you're so big and mean. It's just
Speaker 2: it's it's ridiculousness at this point. And to me, these
Speaker 2: are just other programs that have been inculcated in our
Speaker 2: society to you know, slow the role of the energies
Speaker 2: of people that are trying to do the right thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so tell me how do you Obviously you're somebody
Speaker 1: who I think is a proponent of Tesla and his
Speaker 1: theories out there. I think that anyone who digs into
Speaker 1: this will very quickly find Tesla and realize this goes
Speaker 1: back to him, and that he probably is one of
Speaker 1: the smartest people out there. What was your first experience
Speaker 1: with finding out about Tesla.
Speaker 2: Oh, geez, Being from Long Island, Tesla to me is
Speaker 2: a big deal. His Wardencliffe facility was right there on
Speaker 2: the north shore of Long Island, and a lot of
Speaker 2: students of Tesla will tell you that he said that,
Speaker 2: you know, there are certain points on this planet that
Speaker 2: are better for the study of energy than others. Tesla
Speaker 2: identified the area on Long Island that he called Wardencliffe,
Speaker 2: and apparently nobody's ever disagreed with him on this location
Speaker 2: because you have the shore New Clear Power Plant, which
Speaker 2: is a stone's throwaway, and you have Brookhaven National Labs,
Speaker 2: also stones throwaway. So apparently the study of energy on
Speaker 2: the east end of Long Island, right where Tesla said
Speaker 2: was a good spot to study it. There's just ongoing
Speaker 2: studies by different factions in different names. So I think
Speaker 2: there's a lot to be said about where he was
Speaker 2: coming from and his understanding of I would say the
Speaker 2: harmony of nature around us versus what a lot of
Speaker 2: people like to call science, because science oftentimes has a
Speaker 2: lot to do with our limited observations. Whereas folks like
Speaker 2: Tesla were working in realms which afforded and understanding that
Speaker 2: there were certain mystery aspects we're being utilized in the equation.
Speaker 2: And although you could certainly lack calculations, so to say,
Speaker 2: to these mystery sciences or understandings, there were still certain
Speaker 2: observations that you couldn't deny. So contemporary science wants really
Speaker 2: hard to answer everything. When real scientists function from a
Speaker 2: direction knowing that you have to be able to operate
Speaker 2: with certain voids of information that will always be there.
Speaker 2: Those are the mysteries we don't get to answer certain questions.
Speaker 2: But yet that's the reality that we function in and
Speaker 2: it's observable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what science is. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people forget that science is the study of observable reality.
Speaker 1: A lot of people in today's day and age think
Speaker 1: science is whatever their favorite science influencer YouTuber tells them.
Speaker 1: Which is not how science works. The other way around,
Speaker 1: science is the scientific method.
Speaker 2: He's the physicists at South Paul. I mean, these are
Speaker 2: some of the biggest brain physicists on the planet working
Speaker 2: these experiments, right, And I would hammer them with a cold,
Speaker 2: hard fact because everybody, you know, they get egos and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, and I would say, you know, you
Speaker 2: do realize that the only thing of physicists can tell
Speaker 2: you of value is what they just saw. That's all
Speaker 2: they do. And everybody wants to make it out like
Speaker 2: it's some big deal, but all they're doing is observing
Speaker 2: something and defining what they saw. Well, thanks guy.
Speaker 1: So how did you find out about Thomas Bearden? Because
Speaker 1: I know that's a you know, a synchronicity. I hate
Speaker 1: using the word. I isn't going to use it that
Speaker 1: you and I both have as we both found out about.
Speaker 2: I found out about Thomas Beard many years ago with
Speaker 2: an exceptionally peculiar client that I had, and it was
Speaker 2: in this interaction back and I guess this would have
Speaker 2: been approximately two thousand and four or five that I
Speaker 2: met this person and he started educating me on the
Speaker 2: Thomas Beard information. A lot of stuff about Nikola Tesla,
Speaker 2: what the current state of our technology was at that
Speaker 2: time that we were discussing things, and where Tesla technology
Speaker 2: was already permeating into some aspects of the military industrial complex.
Speaker 2: As an example would be the oh there you go,
Speaker 2: that's the basement from the client that I went to.
Speaker 2: His name was Toby Circus Ballantine, and he is a
Speaker 2: man with quite the reputation in family history in regards
Speaker 2: to the Alphabet agencies such as the OSS in World
Speaker 2: War two and also the creation of the CIA right
Speaker 2: on the heels of World War two. So those are
Speaker 2: those are two Tesla coils in that image that were
Speaker 2: both in his basement when I first arrived to do
Speaker 2: work for him. And he was quite the character.
Speaker 1: I think that's just incredible that you show up to
Speaker 1: somebody's house and then they got Tesla coils in their
Speaker 1: basement and it was telling you about Thomas Beard, and
Speaker 1: you know that that to me is wild.
Speaker 2: Sat me down and we would we would watch videos
Speaker 2: he was he was He was a very innovative person, Toby.
Speaker 2: So when we would watch videos, he had also gone
Speaker 2: as so far as his he had he had a
Speaker 2: projector screen, but right in front of the projector screen
Speaker 2: he had put down. He had purchased a large piece
Speaker 2: of like like window screen, like if you were going
Speaker 2: to repair your own window screen. So he had a
Speaker 2: large section of this material and he had it hung
Speaker 2: a few inches in front of the other projector screen
Speaker 2: so that when he projected, it caused a three D effect.
Speaker 2: And this was like his own way of making his
Speaker 2: own little three D projector. So it was, you know,
Speaker 2: the screen in the front with the projector screen to
Speaker 2: the rear, and there was a difference in depth from
Speaker 2: the one to the next, and it was a it
Speaker 2: was a functional workaround to give you like a three
Speaker 2: D image. So I mean, this is what it was
Speaker 2: like dealing with Toby, is that everything was a bit
Speaker 2: more intelligently done.
Speaker 1: That sounds like holography, which is very interest because optical
Speaker 1: phase conjugation is how you get to holography and from
Speaker 1: digging to the image three seven zero investigation. In case,
Speaker 1: I found out about holography and optical phase conjugation from
Speaker 1: the Thomas Beard and stuff, and then I found out
Speaker 1: about macroscopic phase conjugation, which is so do you.
Speaker 2: Remember way back when when National Geographic first had sticker
Speaker 2: applicats on the cover that showed holograms. So when I
Speaker 2: was a plumber on Long Island, I had a client
Speaker 2: I had the weirdest I just it was amazing all
Speaker 2: the different people that I met. One of the people
Speaker 2: I met, I worked in the guy's house. He had
Speaker 2: his laboratory set up. I looked at this guy shooting
Speaker 2: lasers across his lower level of his house. It was
Speaker 2: in like Muttontown or something. But he was the holographer
Speaker 2: that the National Geographic tapped to make those cover. That
Speaker 2: was him.
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, it's weird how there's the stuff that seems
Speaker 1: mundane that we just see it and we don't think
Speaker 1: twice about. We just go, well, that's cool looking, but
Speaker 1: you never think about, like, how does that? How do
Speaker 1: we actually do that? Why is that a thing that
Speaker 1: we can make a hologram like that?
Speaker 2: I worked. I worked at a laboratory in sciost on
Speaker 2: Long Island that at the time they were working with
Speaker 2: sheets of glass and a liquid crystal in between the
Speaker 2: panes of glass, and they were trying to make the
Speaker 2: liquid crystal have letters show up like a computer screen.
Speaker 2: It was it was just the dogs of crystal display
Speaker 2: laboratory work, and I was there working on a sink,
Speaker 2: listening to the scientists screaming yell at each other trying
Speaker 2: to make it work.
Speaker 1: That's funny. So I want to talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about suppression and air the All Demand Anomaly Resolution Office.
Speaker 1: So you told me before in a pre call that
Speaker 1: you actually talked to the AARO. What was your experience
Speaker 1: like talking to them, and what is your impression.
Speaker 2: Of I thought that the gentlemen at Arrow were decent
Speaker 2: folk that got dealt shitty cards. It seemed like they
Speaker 2: were generally interested in the information that I was putting forth.
Speaker 2: It seemed like they had a general appreciation for the
Speaker 2: veracity of my statements and the documentation that I presented,
Speaker 2: to the point that the conversation came full circle and
Speaker 2: they quite bluntly asked me, what are they supposed to
Speaker 2: do in the future when they've run information like mine
Speaker 2: up their chain of command that they absolutely believe that
Speaker 2: there's you know, information like mine and other information out there.
Speaker 2: They said, what do they do when that stuff just
Speaker 2: gets wholly ignored? Which was what they were anticipating, is
Speaker 2: that you know, they're they're getting good intel, but they're
Speaker 2: not going to be allowed to do anything with this.
Speaker 2: And they just basically said, like you know, like like
Speaker 2: human being, the human being, like, what do you think
Speaker 2: we should do? And I just told them straight up,
Speaker 2: I said, you need to quit your jobs and start
Speaker 2: working for the right team. I said, that's just that's
Speaker 2: just how life goes. I said, if if you're going
Speaker 2: to ask me, that's my answer. If you're taking good
Speaker 2: intel and you're going to watch it get brushed under
Speaker 2: the rug, I said, you you only have one direction
Speaker 2: to go. And I said, that's just you know, as
Speaker 2: far away from this as possible. You know.
Speaker 1: That was my interaction with them as well, is that
Speaker 1: I remember the guy that called in January and he
Speaker 1: was telling me about the football game because it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, national championships and bowl season going on, and
Speaker 1: you know, it was just like talking to a normal guy,
Speaker 1: which was great, but it did you know. I talked
Speaker 1: to him a little bit about some of these like
Speaker 1: February shootdowns from last year, which are this UFO event
Speaker 1: that happened, and you know he's kind of telling me, oh, no,
Speaker 1: that was just balloons and what have you. And I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there just going man like I feel like this
Speaker 1: guy's never going to be allowed to tell the truth
Speaker 1: about what we are really technologically capable of, which made
Speaker 1: me a little bit sad. You know, how do you
Speaker 1: think do you think that that is a main mechanism
Speaker 1: of suppression. I guess the better question is how do
Speaker 1: you think that they are suppressing this information?
Speaker 2: I think so many people are job scared that they
Speaker 2: found themselves in a circumstance that they don't feel financially
Speaker 2: free to exercise the decisions that they want to make.
Speaker 2: And I think that's something that we need to pay
Speaker 2: attention to the mechanations of society around us, because I
Speaker 2: believe that most people will find that they themselves have
Speaker 2: allowed themselves to get into such a circumstance, and this
Speaker 2: is one of the main control mechanisms of society in general.
Speaker 2: I mean, everybody was threatened with losing their job if
Speaker 2: they didn't wear a mask, so they put a mask on.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was it was pretty obvious that there
Speaker 2: was an operation going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like money, shit worked, money, that's all it
Speaker 1: really takes. It takes away somebody's job. You threaten them
Speaker 1: with their job, and you know, I work in healthcare, it.
Speaker 1: I'm no big proponent of wearing masks. I personally think
Speaker 1: it's silly. I don't think that I don't believe in
Speaker 1: my aisma theory, and I don't think that a cold
Speaker 1: virus is going to be stopped by a cloth mask
Speaker 1: over my face. But I did wear them when I
Speaker 1: went to the hospital because they made us wear them,
Speaker 1: and I like having my job and I didn't want
Speaker 1: to lose it. So I think that that's a that's
Speaker 1: an underappreciated aspect of how this is kept quiet. You know,
Speaker 1: my opinion is that there's not as many people out
Speaker 1: there that know about this that what people as what
Speaker 1: people think, and therefore, you know, a lot of people
Speaker 1: just do whatever there is going to give them that
Speaker 1: paycheck and then they go home. But what about the
Speaker 1: idea of you know, do you think a lot of
Speaker 1: people are under NDAs related to this technology or you know,
Speaker 1: what's your thoughts in terms of.
Speaker 2: I think I think a lot of people have absolutely
Speaker 2: found themselves in some sort of non disclosure situation, which
Speaker 2: also gets them right back to having their their finances threatened.
Speaker 2: So it's just it's par for the course nowadays that
Speaker 2: people will gladly sign an NDA on the front end,
Speaker 2: having no idea what that means on the back end.
Speaker 2: And you know what that means for me the people
Speaker 2: is that we're getting bamboozled six ways from Sunday, because
Speaker 2: it's going to take some really bold people to step
Speaker 2: up against these NDAs. One of the things that I
Speaker 2: was interesting about the work that Greer did recently was
Speaker 2: that he made folks realize that, you know, if if
Speaker 2: you sign an NDA or an organization that's involved with
Speaker 2: illegal activity, well the NDA doesn't mean anything then because
Speaker 2: nobody you know, it just it doesn't work like that.
Speaker 2: So I think that's another thing for folks to consider
Speaker 2: is that if the stuff that you are covering up
Speaker 2: is not good stuff, well then the NDA probably doesn't
Speaker 2: apply anyhow. I mean, these are people that should just
Speaker 2: be charred.
Speaker 1: And one thing I heard, I think was on a
Speaker 1: space the other night that people were saying, well, if
Speaker 1: people are doing illegal stuff, who's going to prosecute them anyway? Well,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people don't realize that, like,
Speaker 1: the people who are doing the prosecuting are also under
Speaker 1: the thumb of everybody else and they don't want to
Speaker 1: lose their jobs either. Did you have to sign an
Speaker 1: NDA with the ARROW and your thing with them or
Speaker 1: at all?
Speaker 2: I signed. I signed an NDA with ARROW or the
Speaker 2: provision that I would not speak about the location of
Speaker 2: the facility or the people that are questioning me, other
Speaker 2: than that I am free to discuss any and every
Speaker 2: other aspect about my meeting with them, because this, and
Speaker 2: again this is this is where people don't realize, is that,
Speaker 2: you know, everybody wants to say, you know, oh, this
Speaker 2: guy's full of crap, because if this is the case,
Speaker 2: he'd be dead about you know what, that's just all
Speaker 2: cowardly crap. And the fact that I'm here doing what
Speaker 2: I'm doing is actively thumbing my nose at all the
Speaker 2: people that say that cowardly crap. We as individuals have
Speaker 2: a lot of power and people need to start exercising it.
Speaker 2: So could I have gotten shot in the back of
Speaker 2: the head when I entered a skiff for the Senate
Speaker 2: Intelligence Committee or Arrow? You know, technically, yeah, I could have.
Speaker 2: But I still had something to do. I still had
Speaker 2: things that had to be said. So I went and
Speaker 2: lo and behold, I'm fine. So all this bologney about
Speaker 2: you know, if this guy was legit if he had
Speaker 2: something to say, that's that's part of the program to
Speaker 2: keep people from talking. I'm here living testimony saying if
Speaker 2: you know something that's going on, what that faction is
Speaker 2: doing that you're aware of, is to a detriment to
Speaker 2: the vast majority of the people on this planet. If
Speaker 2: you don't speak up fast and furiously, you are part
Speaker 2: of the problem and people will be coming to get you.
Speaker 1: That's a good point, and that coincides with what Arrow
Speaker 1: told me, presuming that I haven't. I'm skeptical about everybody
Speaker 1: I talked to you now because I've been scammed and
Speaker 1: what have you. But the only thing they told me
Speaker 1: was they said I can talk about anything related to
Speaker 1: our conversation and this was just over our phone call,
Speaker 1: but that they didn't want me to reveal their names,
Speaker 1: which makes sense. I mean, they get a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of hate out there. What was the experience
Speaker 1: like when you met with Arrow?
Speaker 2: In terms of what the experience was, they were extremely
Speaker 2: appreciative of the spending time with them and explaining what
Speaker 2: my observations and understandings were of what was going on
Speaker 2: at the South Pole Station. It appears that there are
Speaker 2: aspects of our own government, whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 2: our checks and balances system that have run a muck.
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't argue that. Again, this is all
Speaker 2: easily observable. But with that being said, it appears that
Speaker 2: there are concerned aspects of our government that are completely
Speaker 2: aware of rogue factions and activity that have sprung up
Speaker 2: through our own systems that are now going on without oversight.
Speaker 2: And there are people that want to reel this back in.
Speaker 2: But there is a substantial amount of bureaucracy even to
Speaker 2: such a noble task.
Speaker 1: And how secretive was you don't I don't want to
Speaker 1: know specifics about where the location was, but you know,
Speaker 1: were there people armed guards outside where you had to
Speaker 1: go in and meet with them? Or was it more
Speaker 1: unassuming in terms.
Speaker 2: Of oh, so the for the Senate Intelligence Committee, it
Speaker 2: was right at the heart building, so it was a
Speaker 2: known location. It was their headquarters and good luck trying
Speaker 2: to get in there. Yeah, But then the the other facility.
Speaker 2: I was gagged on discussing the location, but what I
Speaker 2: could state is that it was just it was how
Speaker 2: do I put it? It was right under your nose,
Speaker 2: location in the middle of civilization.
Speaker 1: Some place you would never expect would be Yeah.
Speaker 2: There was no signage up that said top secret. There
Speaker 2: was no barbed wire fence, there was no official guard.
Speaker 2: You could walk right into this building and out of it.
Speaker 2: You would have had no idea. And this is These
Speaker 2: are the types of facilities that I have oddly enough
Speaker 2: found myself in through my entire career on Long Island.
Speaker 2: Was I was always coming across these weird facilities. So
Speaker 2: then you know, when it came down to this Arrow testimony,
Speaker 2: I was there with my roommate who was also stationed
Speaker 2: at the South Pole with me. She was also coming
Speaker 2: to give testimony. When we entered the building, I immediately
Speaker 2: pretty much soon as we walked in, we took a
Speaker 2: few steps and I was like, come wait, cook here,
Speaker 2: walk right back outside. Came here and I clarified her.
Speaker 2: I said, you remember all those different facilities I told
Speaker 2: you about on Long Island. I said, watch what's about
Speaker 2: to happen when we go back in this building. I said,
Speaker 2: you saw, I said, We walked in, took two steps,
Speaker 2: and I said it looked like a regular building, right,
Speaker 2: And she goes, yeah, he said, watch what's going to happen?
Speaker 2: And then we proceeded to go through the motions of
Speaker 2: you know, go in, go to this elevator, bank, hit
Speaker 2: this button, hit that, and next thing, you know, it
Speaker 2: was like full blown. It was like the start to
Speaker 2: get smart with all the different barricade doors and this
Speaker 2: opens and that opens, and now all of a sudden
Speaker 2: there's a massive amount of security personnel and pat downs
Speaker 2: and questions and wanding and this person is officially from
Speaker 2: the Secret Service and this person is here to you know,
Speaker 2: check on behalfs of this person, and this person needs
Speaker 2: to check on behalf of There's all different organizations giving
Speaker 2: security inspections to represent different departments that have access to
Speaker 2: the conversation that's about to occur. And it was just
Speaker 2: it was you know, it was a sight to see
Speaker 2: that was there was a lot going on that day.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, man. I think that's just a fun anecdote
Speaker 1: for people to understand because it shows how it's just
Speaker 1: hiding in plain sight. You know, it's a good analogy
Speaker 1: to the technology as well, is the technology is hiding
Speaker 1: in plain sight as well. You know, we looked today
Speaker 1: during this conversation at all these websites that are showing
Speaker 1: technology lockeed Martin's websites has a whole section on directed
Speaker 1: energy weapons that are out there, and people think that
Speaker 1: it's not possible or it's just magic, and it's not
Speaker 1: just possible, but it's been in effect for decades, you know,
Speaker 1: the magneto hydrodynamic motors and the submarines that Eric found
Speaker 1: out about in the nineties. Guys, this is a little
Speaker 1: long way out there, and they say, well, why woul't
Speaker 1: they just kill Eric or kill me and the stuff
Speaker 1: that I'm talking about, because that's not how it works.
Speaker 1: You know. General Flynn mentioned on a space he said, well,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of forensics nowadays. You know, if they
Speaker 1: kill somebody, there's a lot of evidence left behind. Somebody's
Speaker 1: got to go do the deed as well, and you
Speaker 1: got to silence that person. And you know, maybe they
Speaker 1: did that more in the sixties and seventies and what
Speaker 1: have you, and maybe the eighties, but now it's just
Speaker 1: a matter of disinformation matter discretion.
Speaker 2: That's another thing for folks to consider in the grand
Speaker 2: scheme of keep Hope alive. The other reason I'm not
Speaker 2: dead because I'm on the winning team. That's how that
Speaker 2: works in life too, is that currently there are folks
Speaker 2: that are scared shitless of what I'm going to do
Speaker 2: next or who I might divulge. The next conversation that occurred, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a reality too that people haven't considered, is that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's there's a lot of activity going on. There's all
Speaker 2: kinds of different factions doing all kinds of different things.
Speaker 2: And I would assume that if somebody wanted me dead,
Speaker 2: I'd be dead, or if someone was scared shitless to
Speaker 2: make a move on me, I'd be alive. I'm currently alive.
Speaker 1: Me too, thankfully. So Eric, I really appreciate the conversation
Speaker 1: that we've had here today. I find your story, you know,
Speaker 1: very interesting. I do find that there's a lot of
Speaker 1: credibility to stuff that you say. You know, you don't
Speaker 1: go out there and make a bunch of claims that
Speaker 1: are unknowable information, you know, you make claims that is
Speaker 1: science that can be looked into, that can be verified.
Speaker 1: And I wish that Aerro would look into what's going
Speaker 1: on in Antarctica and with these defense contractors, because I
Speaker 1: think that they'll find the stuff that you're saying, even
Speaker 1: some of the opinions that you've made about what's possible
Speaker 1: to technology I think they'll find that it is true
Speaker 1: as well, and that the public deserves to know that.
Speaker 1: So in the last few minutes, I'd like to give
Speaker 1: you opportunity to plug anything that you want to plug.
Speaker 1: I know you've got your website deciphering dot tv where
Speaker 1: people can watch a lot of clips, go over your experience,
Speaker 1: see a lot of the scientific references that you post
Speaker 1: out there. And then is there anything else that you
Speaker 1: want to tell the audience or anybody else that might
Speaker 1: be in your shoes or our shoes, let's say, disclosing
Speaker 1: information and what it advice you would give them.
Speaker 2: I would appreciate if folks can go over to deciphering
Speaker 2: dot tv. That is my website, that's my platform for
Speaker 2: freedom of speech. So I hope to do what I
Speaker 2: can to get more information out there, and it'd be appreciated.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to help get the truth out there.
Speaker 2: So more things coming from deciphering dot tv in the
Speaker 2: not too distant future is I try to grow a
Speaker 2: platform to help others get the truth out there. But
Speaker 2: with that being said, you know, what what can we
Speaker 2: do now? Something that we can start today together to
Speaker 2: make a better future for all of us. Is what
Speaker 2: I call become unmanageable, because contemporarily, we as a group
Speaker 2: of individual consciousnesses have basically become too manageable, and they
Speaker 2: are managing us to our own detriment. So I would
Speaker 2: ask everybody in the audience do whatever you can to
Speaker 2: become unmanageable.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the advice, and I think the audience does
Speaker 1: as well. Eric Hecker, everybody, Antarctica, Advanced Technology and Suppression.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys very much for joining us here tonight. Also,
Speaker 1: we got to get you, Eric. We gotta get you
Speaker 1: on x man x is the place to be these days.
Speaker 1: A lot of people in the chat we're asking about
Speaker 1: getting you into a space, you know, interacting with you.
Speaker 1: I don't know what your opinions on a on are
Speaker 1: about on Elon, but it seems like it's the least
Speaker 1: suppressed place out there. I think it can help to
Speaker 1: growlge the knowledge that you're trying to push out through
Speaker 1: the world. So thank you everybody. Appreciate y'all and have
Speaker 1: a good evening.
Speaker 2: Thank you, sir.