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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in, Good afternoon everybody. This is the Hard Truth Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I am your host, Ashton Forbes. Today I'm joined by

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<v Speaker 1>a very special guest, Eric Hecker. He has been to

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<v Speaker 1>some of the most sensitive secure facilities in the entire

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<v Speaker 1>country as well as Antarctica, and he is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be here with us today to share his stories experience,

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some hardware that that he has seen there,

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<v Speaker 1>what the implications of hardware are, the scientific implications and

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<v Speaker 1>the implications for us as a species, and what people

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<v Speaker 1>should know about his experiences and what type of technology

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<v Speaker 1>might be out there. And then we're also going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to him a little bit about his experience when

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<v Speaker 1>he was sharing this information with our government organization, specifically ARA.

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<v Speaker 1>So without further ado, Eric Hecker, Welcome to the stage,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. How are you doing today?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing fantastic, passion. Thank you so much for having

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<v Speaker 2>me on. I've been really looking forward to this conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a friend of mine named Levon who recently

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<v Speaker 2>turned me on to the work that you had been doing,

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<v Speaker 2>and to be quite frank, it just was a breadth

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<v Speaker 2>of fresh air. It's been a long time since I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen people connecting the dots with facts and research and effort.

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<v Speaker 2>So my hack goes off to you, sir. I'm happy

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<v Speaker 2>that you've become interested in that. I'm trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>to the people as well, because I believe, much like yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>some of us are starting to learn that there's technology

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<v Speaker 2>going on around us to a level that is almost

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<v Speaker 2>beyond description.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'm glad you brought that up, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I've just independently concluded. This is why I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to you so much, is that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw your story probably almost a year ago before

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<v Speaker 1>I dug into any of this, and I thought, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's incredible if that's all true. And it took me

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<v Speaker 1>digging through, going through my own experience of what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of technology we might might be out there, to realize, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's like me. He's just had an incredible experience

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<v Speaker 1>digging through what kind of technology we have that's capable

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<v Speaker 1>of that we're capable of out there, And you know

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<v Speaker 1>that this information needs to be out there to the public.

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<v Speaker 1>So as we get started, I guess the first question

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you is there's been a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of drama going around the UFO community here today this

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<v Speaker 1>I guess last few days. So when you were down

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<v Speaker 1>to Antarctica, did you see any blue aliens or any

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<v Speaker 1>Nordics or anything like that or is your experience more

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<v Speaker 1>on the non esoteric angle.

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<v Speaker 2>It would it would absolutely be from the non sooteric

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<v Speaker 2>angle from my from my direct experience, right, But I

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<v Speaker 2>have joked around like that in reality down at the

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<v Speaker 2>South Pole. I mean, I have suggested that it would

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<v Speaker 2>be like an air traffic control center for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>on and off world activities of higher level technologies. And yes,

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<v Speaker 2>people often wonder about aliens and such, and I have

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<v Speaker 2>to admit, like, although I can say I've never seen

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<v Speaker 2>anything with my own two eyes, it's very interesting that

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<v Speaker 2>that environment affords people and numinity by being completely covered

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<v Speaker 2>up every inch of your body and everything with cold

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<v Speaker 2>weather gear. So it does make me laugh and give

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<v Speaker 2>pause to I mean, there could have been something covered

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<v Speaker 2>with gear. So I mean, I get what people make

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<v Speaker 2>suggestions and I have to give pause and go, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>something's it's on the possibilities list. But I can'tactically say

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<v Speaker 2>that I have any confirmation of seeing any form of

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<v Speaker 2>alien at the South Pole station. But I did see

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<v Speaker 2>what I now consider a UFO of some sort, which

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<v Speaker 2>was a large, massive ball of flame that went from

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<v Speaker 2>horizon to horizon at the South Pole, which is at

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<v Speaker 2>great elevation and unobstructed, and it went so fast and

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<v Speaker 2>it was completely level flight. It wasn't descending, And to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I now understand that to be a controlled flight path

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<v Speaker 2>versus just a meteor event of some sort. I will

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<v Speaker 2>go as so far as to say, as I I

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<v Speaker 2>did see one UFO at the South Pole station during

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<v Speaker 2>my Winter's Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, and I think that I'm just making a

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<v Speaker 1>joke there, because I don't think we have the luxury of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, discounting other people's experiences when we're disclosing stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that is already pretty incredible, and I think both of

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<v Speaker 1>us are are kind of doing that. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to keep an open mind, in my opinion, out there,

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<v Speaker 1>So I hope nobody took offense to that. I absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>think that there can be aliens out there. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>personally seen any, but we are going to be delving

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<v Speaker 1>into a little bit of the implications of that with

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<v Speaker 1>this technology and this discussion here today. So let's get

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<v Speaker 1>right on into it. How did you end up in Antarctica.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how I think I've I've read the stories

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<v Speaker 1>that you you know, we're with Raytheon out there. How

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<v Speaker 1>did you get to the situation where you ended up

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<v Speaker 1>being part of that and getting out there with Raytheon?

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<v Speaker 1>What can you tell us about how that all played out?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's that's actually really interesting and important question, but

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<v Speaker 2>rather complex one to answer. I gather through looking at

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<v Speaker 2>my life's history that it was a very complex and

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<v Speaker 2>yet convoluted path that got me somehow to the South

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<v Speaker 2>Pole Station, Antarctica for a year. I had a brief

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<v Speaker 2>encounter with the Submarine Service in nineteen ninety four. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get to the South Pole until twenty ten. I've

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<v Speaker 2>met all kinds of peculiar people from my youth until

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<v Speaker 2>South Pole Station, and I firmly believe that there was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of assistance in getting me into that program,

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<v Speaker 2>if that makes any sense at all, I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>makes me think of there was a and I bastardize

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<v Speaker 2>and steal phrases from people all the time and never

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<v Speaker 2>get appropriate credit. But somebody once said that I've only

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<v Speaker 2>gotten as far as I have because I've been able

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<v Speaker 2>to stand upon the shoulders of the people that have

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<v Speaker 2>supported you, know that that whole thing. I feel, as

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<v Speaker 2>much as there are a lot of rogue factions and

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<v Speaker 2>agencies out there that are up to no good, that

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<v Speaker 2>there's somehow actions that are up to good and just

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<v Speaker 2>like those other more nefarious cells can put folks to

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<v Speaker 2>activity that I think there's good guys out there that

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<v Speaker 2>are putting guys like me where they need to be

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<v Speaker 2>at the right time to see things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do wonder about that as much what it

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<v Speaker 1>is at this point in terms of like the maybe

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<v Speaker 1>factions that want this information out there, that want the

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<v Speaker 1>technology out there, maybe other ones that don't want it

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<v Speaker 1>out there. It does make you wonder, and it makes

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<v Speaker 1>you wonder about what kind of covert means might be

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<v Speaker 1>happy behind the scenes. What was your impression of Raytheon,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, before for and while you were working out

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<v Speaker 1>there as a company.

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<v Speaker 2>The impression of Raytheon through my life of crossing paths

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<v Speaker 2>with this corporation has brought me to the contemporary conclusion

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<v Speaker 2>that they are the Devil incarnate in corporate form. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't seem to be one of the noblest companies on

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<v Speaker 2>the planet doing the best for all humankind.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it? And so, you know, and I'm starting to

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<v Speaker 1>believe the same thing about many defense contractors that are

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<v Speaker 1>out there. Raytheon is one of them, and my personal

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<v Speaker 1>opinion is that disclosure is really a matter of getting

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<v Speaker 1>the information technology from those companies. So when you were

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<v Speaker 1>out there, what was your primary responsibility and what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of team were you working with? I guess what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting at is are there other people that had similar

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<v Speaker 1>experiences to you that you did while you were out

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<v Speaker 1>in Antarctica?

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha? Basically I was contracted as a plumber for the

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<v Speaker 2>summer season two thousand and ten at South Pole Station,

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<v Speaker 2>and during that summer season I applied for the winter

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<v Speaker 2>position as well, and did well enough in my summer

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<v Speaker 2>season to get that second contract. In that capacity, I

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<v Speaker 2>also had to serve as a co lead on what

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<v Speaker 2>they called the fire Brigade team. So basically, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we used to joke around and say that the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>day to day life at the South Paul Station was

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<v Speaker 2>just absolute boredom, but broke him up by moments of

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<v Speaker 2>sheer terror, and it was the it was the sheer

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<v Speaker 2>terror parts that were the most fun and make the

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<v Speaker 2>best stories. But in reality, that's That's what I was

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<v Speaker 2>actually there for, was that when things went catastrophically wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>I was the guy that was basically charged with figuring

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<v Speaker 2>it out, making the first call, breaching into the hot

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<v Speaker 2>zone for you know, whatever the predicament may be at

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<v Speaker 2>the moment, for whatever alarm bell rang. But that was

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<v Speaker 2>my job, you know. So people like to give me

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of grief for being some sort of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>lowly plumber slash firefighter at this facility, But for all

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<v Speaker 2>practical purposes, it was an extremely important role that was

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<v Speaker 2>relied on heavily to make rapid decisions to maintain life

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<v Speaker 2>support systems. That I assure you, when Mother Nature encroaches

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<v Speaker 2>upon your life support systems in such a harsh environment,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very important to keep that stuff back online as

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<v Speaker 2>fast as possible because things can get really bad, really

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<v Speaker 2>fast in those conditions. It's the South Pole Station and Antarctica, folks.

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<v Speaker 2>This was not Yeah, it wasn't the party. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, I mean I think people should realize two things.

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<v Speaker 1>First is that it's not the people at the top

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<v Speaker 1>that know necessarily all the comings and goings of what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening at these bases. Usually you're going to find as

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<v Speaker 1>two people like Eric who have a key to every

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<v Speaker 1>single door in the facility because they need it for maintenance,

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<v Speaker 1>for example. And some people are probably wondering, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>why do you have fire fire peat fires in the

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<v Speaker 1>coldest one of the coldest places on Earth. Well we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get to that in a little bit as well.

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<v Speaker 1>There are legitimate reasons, but also in terms of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just being a plumber. You know, I think you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell us as well. It doesn't just mean that you

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<v Speaker 1>only work on pipes. Is that you know, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure these devices are not on when you're

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<v Speaker 1>going and you're making maintenance and repairs. And I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the pipes exploding in in a very cold place and

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<v Speaker 1>when you have water running through them is absolutely a

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<v Speaker 1>real thing that occurs. So we're gonna dig into some

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<v Speaker 1>of that here. I urged people not to try to

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<v Speaker 1>discredit people just because of what their role was as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to the information that they're presenting forward now. On

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<v Speaker 1>that same front, then what was your team? How big

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<v Speaker 1>was the team of people that was with you working

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<v Speaker 1>with you that you had that and you know, did

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<v Speaker 1>you guys talk a lot about the stuff that was

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<v Speaker 1>going on down there.

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<v Speaker 2>For my winter season, which would have been through twenty

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<v Speaker 2>and eleven, we had forty nine members of the winter

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<v Speaker 2>over crew. Was and that was it became intimately familiar

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<v Speaker 2>with each other. What we were interested in. It was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of we were cut off from the world.

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<v Speaker 2>We had no outside creature comforts, we didn't have internet

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four hours a day. We had short opportunities with

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<v Speaker 2>limited access. So our world was the South Pole Station

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<v Speaker 2>and we had responsibilities obligations to each other to keep

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<v Speaker 2>that place up and running. The science that they were

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<v Speaker 2>doing was being presented is very important and we certainly

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<v Speaker 2>were trying to do due diligence to you know, to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure we kept things functioning. It was it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was like being on the moon. I mean, even

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<v Speaker 2>buzz Aldrin when he showed up to the South Pole was,

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<v Speaker 1>So what can we let's talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>the hardware that was down there. I want to give

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<v Speaker 1>people the idea of, you know, what were the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of systems that were down there? Can you give us

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<v Speaker 1>a rundown of I think it's three primary systems that

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<v Speaker 1>were dealt with or which you go ahead and election.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Yeah. So the major system that I'm bringing to

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's attention is the ice cube neutrino detector, which they're

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<v Speaker 2>and it does do that, but it also has the

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<v Speaker 2>a whole other venue of what it can potentially do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm trying to point out to people that these

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<v Speaker 2>are directed energy weapons platforms. So the ice cube neutrino

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<v Speaker 2>detector having the capacity to transmit makes it the world's

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<v Speaker 2>largest phased array transmitter currently. Now a lot of folks

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<v Speaker 2>This is you know, people need to pay attention to

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<v Speaker 2>what these technologies can do potentially and then start to

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know how to like sugarcoat this like

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<v Speaker 2>to swallow. But we are currently in war. There's like

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<v Speaker 2>war going on, but at a technological level that people

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<v Speaker 2>identify the contemporary walking wounded because we're not familiar with

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<v Speaker 2>the weaponry being used or the wounds that occur from

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<v Speaker 2>the technology applied. So there's walking wounded around all of

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<v Speaker 2>are different than what we're familiar with. It's not bullet

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<v Speaker 2>holes like of old. It's havana syndrome, symptom lists items,

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<v Speaker 1>Now, how did you find out or how did you

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<v Speaker 1>come to determine that these systems could transmit, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least that the ice cube neutrino detector could transmit directed.

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<v Speaker 2>To I was directed to find information that was already

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<v Speaker 2>the University of Wisconsin's like owners and Operator's manual for

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<v Speaker 2>the ice cube neutrino array. So it's just like having,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the owner's manual for a Chevy truck. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it's one of the pages in the owner's manual. But

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<v Speaker 2>this happens to be the owner's manual for the ice

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<v Speaker 2>cube neutrino array states that each of the doms has

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<v Speaker 2>the ability to transmit up to two thousand and forty

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<v Speaker 2>seven vaults. Yeah, and there's the doms right there. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's lots consider like you had stated about the structure

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<v Speaker 2>of these doms and how you know, we've all been

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<v Speaker 2>utilizing the phenomena of electriity, but it doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 2>we really wholly understood what it is that we're doing

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<v Speaker 2>with this phenomena. But there's other things to be considered.

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<v Speaker 2>When you start applying the structure of sacred geometry to

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<v Speaker 2>this phenomena that we don't wholly understand, there's certainly room

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<v Speaker 2>for other things to be realized or utilized or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you want to call it. We have to open our

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<v Speaker 2>minds to the fact that there's more going on around

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<v Speaker 2>us than the science we've been told to trust as

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<v Speaker 2>of late.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in these devices, when I look at these, they

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<v Speaker 1>just look really weird, really suspicious. The fact that there's

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<v Speaker 1>I think, what is it, five thousand, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>sixty years something like that of these things, and each

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<v Speaker 1>one has two thousand volts and it happens to look like.

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<v Speaker 1>I did an interview last week with Tom Montak about

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<v Speaker 1>scaler physics, and in his presentation he has a spherical

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<v Speaker 1>capacitor that looks just like what this looks like, and

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<v Speaker 1>he says that that is the type of device that

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<v Speaker 1>could basically negate the electric field or make a uniform

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<v Speaker 1>electric field with it that can produce these types of

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<v Speaker 1>scaler effects, which to me lends credit to your argument

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<v Speaker 1>that this can be used as a type of transmitter

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<v Speaker 1>of energy. And so I guess what I'd like for

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<v Speaker 1>you to repeat there, or to say in your own words,

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, what would you like the world to

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<v Speaker 1>know specifically about this device and what you found down there,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what does the world need to wrap their head

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<v Speaker 1>around in order to catch up with what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>and the military project or you know, third party defense

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<v Speaker 2>I guess to answer that in this regard for this device, specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>this device is responsible for earthquakes that hit christ Church,

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<v Speaker 2>New Zealand in February of two thousand and eleven. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is the reality of some of the new directed

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<v Speaker 2>energy weapons platforms that exist contemporarily in the hands of

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<v Speaker 2>many factions. Is that they can manifest earthquakes and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not really that hard to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's how did you find out that? Or like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>did somebody tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>You found that out first hand? From my crew that

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<v Speaker 2>we were involved with that.

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<v Speaker 1>So rumors were circulating around in the in the crew

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<v Speaker 1>there while you were out on assignment that hey, this

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<v Speaker 1>earthquakes it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it was It wasn't like that at all. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>it was many years after being at the South Pole

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<v Speaker 2>station there were multiple members from my crew that were

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<v Speaker 2>starting to talk about medical issues that they were having,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was in those conversations that a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>and in those cards that were then dealt, it was

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<v Speaker 2>discussed what was really going on at the facility, which

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<v Speaker 2>was the application of these systems in secondary and tertiary capacities,

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<v Speaker 2>above and beyond what they were presented for as their

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<v Speaker 2>primary purpose of science, was also the ulterior motives and

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<v Speaker 2>what that could have done to the crew, which was us.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was in those types of conversations that there

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<v Speaker 2>was realizations for.

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<v Speaker 1>Some Yeah, it's the thing about the christ Church. Thing

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<v Speaker 1>that's really weird is there's no fault lines down there,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden they had I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was over a six point zero earthquake. I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was even stronger than that. So I did

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<v Speaker 1>dig into that a little bit, and I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was very unusual. The thing I keep wondering about is

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<v Speaker 1>are we talking weather control or weather manipulation? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a little bit of a subtle difference.

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<v Speaker 2>That's semantics at that point. Yeah, because the difference between

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<v Speaker 2>one and the other is just called practice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true. It's just getting good at it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>is getting good at it? And that's what I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wonder is we are we just shooting beams out

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<v Speaker 1>there and then things are happening, versus are we able

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<v Speaker 1>to cause very specific events to occur. This was something

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<v Speaker 1>that came up recently with the Taiwan earthquake, which was

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<v Speaker 1>I think like seven point four. People don't realize like

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<v Speaker 1>every time you go up one point on the Richter scale,

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<v Speaker 1>the earthquake is ten times more powerful. So that was

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<v Speaker 1>a huge or what did you think about that? Did

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<v Speaker 1>that earthquake? Was that seemed suspicious as to you at all?

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<v Speaker 1>When you saw that one recently?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean ever since my eyes have been open to

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<v Speaker 2>what is possible. I guess I function from a very

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<v Speaker 2>if not, you know, us and our agenda, there are

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<v Speaker 2>certainly plenty of other factions that have their hands available

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<v Speaker 2>to the same technology. So I believe that we the

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<v Speaker 2>people of the planet need to start paying more attention

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<v Speaker 2>to the technologies that are being used about us and

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<v Speaker 2>start to understand that if these rogue factions keep doing

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<v Speaker 2>what they're doing, which is you know it's because we

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<v Speaker 2>don't get to know it exists, means that it can

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<v Speaker 2>be unregulated. So right now there's just certain factions that

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<v Speaker 2>are running amuck with technologies because they're unregulated. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>it's not worth it for them to share the technology

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<v Speaker 2>because in an unregulated capacity it's more lucrative.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my friend was telling me that there are potentially

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<v Speaker 1>multiple factions. You've got the faction that wants the information out,

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<v Speaker 1>You've got the faction that wants to keep the information secret,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you've got the faction that wants to profit

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<v Speaker 1>off of it themselves. And then between that you've got

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<v Speaker 1>maybe all of those factions wondering what the other factions

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<v Speaker 1>are thinking and what they're doing, And I think when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at it like that, you know, it gets

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit scary. Now. One thing I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say for the people out there that might be watching

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<v Speaker 1>this going, oh, this is all sci fi. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>really pull this off. The laws of physics say you

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<v Speaker 1>can't do this, I would say, think again, ask yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>of human civilization and scientific advancement right now? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>possible that we do not fully understand the laws of

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<v Speaker 1>physics and electrical engineering perfectly. When we're talking about scaler

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<v Speaker 1>physics here, which is the types of science that we

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<v Speaker 1>need for these types of effects, we're talking about Maxwell's

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<v Speaker 1>original equations before they got stripped down to heavy sides

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<v Speaker 1>for electrical engineering equations, and when we're talking about this,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the idea that you can negate your

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<v Speaker 1>magnetic potential or your electric potential, and then you're not

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<v Speaker 1>left with nothing, You're left with a scalar potential. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you can take that scalar potential and turn it

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<v Speaker 1>into a transmitter, a beam like we see in these

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<v Speaker 1>doms that we're seeing here, potentially from something like this,

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<v Speaker 1>you make a beam out of it, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>take that beam, and that beam would have if you

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<v Speaker 1>try to measure it with electromagnetic type of measurement device,

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<v Speaker 1>you can measure nothing. But if you then cross that

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<v Speaker 1>beam with another beam at a location in the distance,

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<v Speaker 1>now you can potentially recreate the energy at a distance.

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<v Speaker 1>You can have an interference pattern we called it interferometry

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<v Speaker 1>zone occur. And then the next question for Eric Hecker

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<v Speaker 1>here is I want to know his opinion because when

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<v Speaker 1>I think about that and that being the capability for

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<v Speaker 1>like Cavana syndrome and other types of electrical magnetic effects.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, why do you why do you think Antarctica

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<v Speaker 1>would be a good location for this, Eric, or have

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<v Speaker 1>you thought about, you know, why they would have one

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<v Speaker 1>of these devices down in Antarctica.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, back to the primary purpose being the neutrino detection

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<v Speaker 2>and the DOMS being embedded in the ice. So just

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<v Speaker 2>the optical activity of the neutrino detection, I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>is that that does function, so it helps when the

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<v Speaker 2>primary mission is easily supportable. But I think there's other

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<v Speaker 2>things to consider for the arrangement of the doms in

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<v Speaker 2>the ice. The conversation that you had with Tom Montauk

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<v Speaker 2>the other day, you guys were discussing ice, and I

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<v Speaker 2>had made a mention in the comments that it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>it behaves like a dielectric. So now when you really like,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is it's big brained, but it's not

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<v Speaker 2>big brained because these are still basic electrical principles. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, you know, we have these you know, spherical

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<v Speaker 2>domes embedded in the ice that can now transmit up

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, such and such vaults. But now the

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<v Speaker 2>ice itself is a dielectric. So now is this in

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<v Speaker 2>That's what's going on. Is problematic is that you know,

424
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<v Speaker 2>when you say, well, what can this device do? What

425
00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:11.680
<v Speaker 2>if I just simply said, we don't currently have words

426
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<v Speaker 2>for that.

427
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<v Speaker 1>Well, some of the other thoughts that I was just

428
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:21.200
<v Speaker 1>thinking as well, a lot of these quantum macroscopic effects

429
00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:24.680
<v Speaker 1>that we are seeing with advanced high technology require very

430
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<v Speaker 1>cold temperatures including classic superconductivity, also just cooling things down,

431
00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:33.440
<v Speaker 1>especially we're dealing with huge amounts of energy that things

432
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:36.559
<v Speaker 1>might heat up. But the other thought is just the location, Like,

433
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:38.759
<v Speaker 1>if you are trying to shoot a beam somewhere, what's

434
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:40.720
<v Speaker 1>a better location than the top or the bottom of

435
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>the planet. You know, it seems like a pretty good spot,

436
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:47.279
<v Speaker 1>especially if you're going to create a cross beam somewhere else.

437
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:51.880
<v Speaker 1>But I think you mentioned in our pre call the

438
00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:55.200
<v Speaker 1>fact that when we looked at it, it's really deep

439
00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:58.440
<v Speaker 1>into the ice. Is there potential, you know, some type

440
00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:02.000
<v Speaker 1>of directional capability that you know, Why is it buried

441
00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:03.960
<v Speaker 1>down into the ice as opposed to being flat on

442
00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:06.720
<v Speaker 1>the surface. Do you think in terms of this three dimensions?

443
00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:11.559
<v Speaker 2>I think that has everything to do with now, for

444
00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:17.960
<v Speaker 2>the first time ever, applying a third dimension, and albeit

445
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:24.880
<v Speaker 2>a substantial third dimension, to what would previously have been

446
00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:31.039
<v Speaker 2>just your your standard harp antenna array, which has length

447
00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:35.839
<v Speaker 2>and width. So this one, having the third dimension applied

448
00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:40.680
<v Speaker 2>and giving it all of that depth is just again

449
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:46.880
<v Speaker 2>a testimony to how much more profoundly powerful a phased

450
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:51.279
<v Speaker 2>array transmitter this is than anything previous to it.

451
00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>And you said they're going to make it ten times

452
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:55.640
<v Speaker 1>bigger than this.

453
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir, ten times bigger than the current arrangement.

454
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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what the official narrative is on why

455
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<v Speaker 1>they need to make it ten times bigger?

456
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:11.119
<v Speaker 2>Also, no, I'm really curious as to what that spiel is. Yes, why, Yes,

457
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:14.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm big into you know, paying attention to you know what,

458
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:16.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, what is the return on investment. I come

459
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:19.519
<v Speaker 2>from a blue collar world of slinging tools, and you know,

460
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:23.920
<v Speaker 2>I always look at things with a different angle, you know,

461
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:28.279
<v Speaker 2>like I don't believe that you can whip people into

462
00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:32.160
<v Speaker 2>being master craftsmen. So I don't know that I buy

463
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:35.920
<v Speaker 2>the whole, you know, slaves of Egypt building the Pyramids situation.

464
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<v Speaker 2>It just doesn't really make sense to me.

465
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, no, I'm with you on that. So everybody

466
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:43.960
<v Speaker 1>who's out there and watching or listening to this later on,

467
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:47.079
<v Speaker 1>pay close attention to what the official narrative is about

468
00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:49.440
<v Speaker 1>why our ice cube neutrino detector needs to be ten

469
00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>times larger than it is. Right now. I'm very curious

470
00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:55.799
<v Speaker 1>to hear because I think that, like what Eric just said,

471
00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:58.519
<v Speaker 1>they've got these narratives that are out there, We're gonna

472
00:29:58.519 --> 00:30:00.640
<v Speaker 1>have words to describe every time this out there, Like

473
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:02.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm using the term scale of physics, but you're probably

474
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<v Speaker 1>not gonna hear officials use that, And so you know

475
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:08.480
<v Speaker 1>when they whatever they say about it's probably going to

476
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:10.839
<v Speaker 1>be some scientific mumbo jumble that they're going to try

477
00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:12.519
<v Speaker 1>to pass off on us for why they've got to

478
00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:16.079
<v Speaker 1>increase the size and we should pay extra attention to that.

479
00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>So didn't of your I think you mentioned this, but

480
00:30:20.599 --> 00:30:23.359
<v Speaker 1>just repeat it if necessary anybody else in your crew.

481
00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:25.920
<v Speaker 1>So they started have weird symptoms that I think you said.

482
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<v Speaker 1>After the fact, people started to attribute to maybe it

483
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:30.599
<v Speaker 1>was being you know, too close to some of the

484
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:32.559
<v Speaker 1>hardware that was out there or what happened.

485
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and you can probably look this up right now.

486
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:44.720
<v Speaker 2>My winter site manager while we were active at the

487
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:51.160
<v Speaker 2>South Pole station, suffered from some sort of incident and

488
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:54.279
<v Speaker 2>it made all of the news. Her name was renamed

489
00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:57.799
<v Speaker 2>the Cole du Seur. She was the winter site manager

490
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:03.319
<v Speaker 2>for my crew, and she started calling for a medical

491
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:13.759
<v Speaker 2>evacuation of herself, which was extremely abnormal and gave me,

492
00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:16.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, great trepidation at the time because this was

493
00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:22.640
<v Speaker 2>the person that, through my hiring process was emphasizing to

494
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.720
<v Speaker 2>me that I needed to understand that there was no

495
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:28.920
<v Speaker 2>such thing as a medical like that. It was just

496
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:33.720
<v Speaker 2>there you go, that's yep, that's my winter site manager, Renee.

497
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:37.079
<v Speaker 2>So she was trying to get a medical evac for herself.

498
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:40.319
<v Speaker 2>This is the person that hired me and made me

499
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:44.720
<v Speaker 2>sign paperwork after she made me understand that there is

500
00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:48.920
<v Speaker 2>no medical evac process, which just stranded there. So it

501
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:51.599
<v Speaker 2>was the weirdest thing ever when she started trying to

502
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:55.839
<v Speaker 2>call for an evac for herself, and.

503
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Wow, an eva she needed. She wanted to get out

504
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:00.240
<v Speaker 1>of there. She was feeling so bad that she.

505
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Something happened to her. I believe that she believed that

506
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:09.559
<v Speaker 2>she had a stroke because at the time of the

507
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:14.799
<v Speaker 2>incident she had no other way to have words for it.

508
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:18.680
<v Speaker 2>But I believe that she and many other folks from

509
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:25.119
<v Speaker 2>my crew were the victims of directed energy weapons systems attacks.

510
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Wow, so I'm trying to read here. Did she end

511
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:30.200
<v Speaker 1>up getting evacuated?

512
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:38.160
<v Speaker 2>She was removed on the first scheduled flight of the season. Officially,

513
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:44.039
<v Speaker 2>it was not any privilege given or her circumstance.

514
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Wow, So they didn't they didn't speed it up. But

515
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:51.839
<v Speaker 1>so that's scary because the Savannah syndrome. It's been back

516
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>in the news again. It came out I think a

517
00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:57.599
<v Speaker 1>few years after that, and they've been claiming that it's

518
00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:03.039
<v Speaker 1>they being either the Three letter agencies and the media,

519
00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:05.920
<v Speaker 1>which I don't really trust, either of them, claiming that, oh,

520
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:08.559
<v Speaker 1>it's some type of microwave weapon, which I guess it

521
00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>could be. You know, it's just a matter of what

522
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:12.319
<v Speaker 1>the wavelength is that we're talking about. But the thing

523
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>that's scary about scaler weapons is that this stuff goes

524
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:18.680
<v Speaker 1>right through solid matter. You can have those beams go

525
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:20.519
<v Speaker 1>straight through solid matter. It doesn't matter if you've got

526
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:23.480
<v Speaker 1>concrete in the way, it's gonna go straight through it.

527
00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>And then you can reproduce that energy at a distance.

528
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>And who knows what that does the human body. Thomas Bearden,

529
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:33.079
<v Speaker 1>who I believe you are familiar with, I've been, you know,

530
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:35.519
<v Speaker 1>going through a lot of his old videos and when

531
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:38.759
<v Speaker 1>he starts talking about this scaler interferometry, one of the

532
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:42.400
<v Speaker 1>other aspects of it is a medical healing aspect in

533
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.559
<v Speaker 1>terms of this kind of like time reversed wave they

534
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:49.759
<v Speaker 1>call it, which can kind of revert the state of

535
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:53.759
<v Speaker 1>the cell or you know, anything, back to its original position.

536
00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>It's definitely controversial to speak about. But now the opposite

537
00:33:57.720 --> 00:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>of that would be, you know, a weapon that can

538
00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:04.279
<v Speaker 1>damn people, that can he argues past disease from one

539
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>cell to the other, or you know, I imagine it can

540
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:10.320
<v Speaker 1>do some pretty horrific things out there. So are you

541
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:12.239
<v Speaker 1>then of the opinion that a lot of the Savannah

542
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:16.079
<v Speaker 1>syndrome stuff is coming from directed energy weapons like this,

543
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:18.199
<v Speaker 1>the stuff that people have been reporting in the military

544
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:19.719
<v Speaker 1>and the embassies, et cetera.

545
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, yeah, all of these weapons are you know, up

546
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:30.280
<v Speaker 2>the sleeves of our enemies six ways from Sunday with

547
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:34.079
<v Speaker 2>This is part of the issues that we need to

548
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:40.400
<v Speaker 2>realize the broad spectrum of stuff that's available in the

549
00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:44.360
<v Speaker 2>market contemporarily. It's it's not like this just one thing,

550
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:47.599
<v Speaker 2>you know that's terrible. There's there's a lot. There's there's

551
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:50.119
<v Speaker 2>companies that have this stuff in market right now. So

552
00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:52.880
<v Speaker 2>there was a company that was previously called l RAD

553
00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:56.760
<v Speaker 2>and now they go by the name of Genesis, And

554
00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:04.920
<v Speaker 2>these are companies that el commercially directed energy weapons systems.

555
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:10.199
<v Speaker 2>They are available currently for law enforcement, fire departments. They're

556
00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:14.480
<v Speaker 2>they're sold under the guise of being hailing devices. Or

557
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:21.920
<v Speaker 2>long range communications devices for emergency use. But if you

558
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:24.960
<v Speaker 2>get trained on this stuff, you learn that there's you know,

559
00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:29.440
<v Speaker 2>there's a dial and there's a green zone, there's a

560
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:32.960
<v Speaker 2>yellow zone, and there's a red zone. And you know,

561
00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:36.760
<v Speaker 2>they say that the officials are trained to never put

562
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:39.719
<v Speaker 2>it into the red zone, you know, because then you

563
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:43.280
<v Speaker 2>can kill people. But my question would be, why do

564
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:45.360
<v Speaker 2>you even have a red zone on the dial to

565
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:50.400
<v Speaker 2>begin with. But these are the products that are commercially

566
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:55.920
<v Speaker 2>available to our overseers that you know, in a panic,

567
00:35:56.039 --> 00:35:58.719
<v Speaker 2>next thing, you know, that dial goes to red and

568
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:03.159
<v Speaker 2>some scared police police officer just decimated a crowd with

569
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:08.800
<v Speaker 2>a microwave weapons blast. But these are the technologies that

570
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:12.159
<v Speaker 2>exist today. The trainings that are available for local law

571
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:17.639
<v Speaker 2>enforcement if they want to use a backpack deployable variant

572
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:23.599
<v Speaker 2>of this technology also exists, so that you know, if

573
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:26.559
<v Speaker 2>you have the right money and the right paperwork, this

574
00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:30.360
<v Speaker 2>stuff is omnipresent in our society already.

575
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:36.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I was looking through this document about energy

576
00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:40.239
<v Speaker 1>and in this there is a part I'm trying to

577
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:42.400
<v Speaker 1>find it down here. If I can't find it, I'll

578
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:45.440
<v Speaker 1>just dig straight to the images that I have that

579
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:48.159
<v Speaker 1>pretty much talks about directed energy weapons. Directed energy weapons

580
00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:51.559
<v Speaker 1>have been getting talked about in the defense contractors for years,

581
00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:54.840
<v Speaker 1>if not for decades. Yeah, here it is right here actually,

582
00:36:54.960 --> 00:37:00.400
<v Speaker 1>so energy horizons, airspace, cyber infrastructure, under materials and systems

583
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:05.480
<v Speaker 1>under extreme conditions. We can see directed energy listed both

584
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:08.079
<v Speaker 1>for air and space right here as well. And also

585
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:11.239
<v Speaker 1>you can see propulsion listed for air as well in here,

586
00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:16.320
<v Speaker 1>and then we can see our government partners here as well, NASA, NRO, NNGA.

587
00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:18.039
<v Speaker 1>You know what scares me when I look at this

588
00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:22.639
<v Speaker 1>particular clip right here is that the air part would

589
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:27.320
<v Speaker 1>be you know, we see OSD, Navy, NASA, FA. This

590
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:29.280
<v Speaker 1>is where I think we're talking about shooting beams out

591
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:31.960
<v Speaker 1>into the sky. When we look at the space one.

592
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Now I think, okay, well we've got this ice ice

593
00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:38.039
<v Speaker 1>cubed neutrino detector or these harp radar antennas on the ground.

594
00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:40.199
<v Speaker 1>Imagine if we have them in out of space on

595
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:42.719
<v Speaker 1>satellites shooting down, you have better field of view. I

596
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:44.519
<v Speaker 1>mean one of the big limitations is the field of

597
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:46.760
<v Speaker 1>view and how far you can shoot it. Now, I

598
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:48.960
<v Speaker 1>think they can bounce them off the ONA sphere, which

599
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.639
<v Speaker 1>makes them have huge, huge range. But if you have

600
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:54.480
<v Speaker 1>satellites that can do this, then you can just zap

601
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:55.800
<v Speaker 1>anyone on the whole planet.

602
00:37:56.719 --> 00:37:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, these are just different cogs in a machine. At

603
00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:02.880
<v Speaker 2>that point, all these different and independent systems have what

604
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:07.440
<v Speaker 2>they can accomplish singularly. But then there's a lot to

605
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:14.039
<v Speaker 2>be said for firing up different systems and crossing the streams,

606
00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:16.639
<v Speaker 2>so to say, of different systems with each other.

607
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So people definitely need to be paying attention to

608
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:24.920
<v Speaker 1>these types of systems that we have out there and

609
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:28.760
<v Speaker 1>hopefully opening their mind to what we're capable of, especially

610
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:31.719
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to Havana syndrome as well. It wouldn't

611
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:35.159
<v Speaker 1>surprise me I think that if you know that we're

612
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:37.360
<v Speaker 1>being kind of led down a different path with the

613
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Havana syndrome stuff, because they don't want people looking at

614
00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:42.880
<v Speaker 1>these types of systems wondering what can we pull off there?

615
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:46.079
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, like you said about the mass fatigue,

616
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:48.559
<v Speaker 1>imagine if this is a weapon that's not just hitting

617
00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:51.199
<v Speaker 1>a single person, but you can hit like a huge

618
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:53.199
<v Speaker 1>body of people who are a group of people, a

619
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:56.000
<v Speaker 1>city of people with this type of technology. It does

620
00:38:56.079 --> 00:39:03.280
<v Speaker 1>make you wonder about whether manipulation and those types of all. Now, Eric,

621
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:06.760
<v Speaker 1>when you were in Antarctica, what was like the impatches?

622
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:10.480
<v Speaker 1>When did you realize that something was wrong? I mean

623
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:12.400
<v Speaker 1>you may have already had, like you know, you didn't

624
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:15.039
<v Speaker 1>trust Raithion when you first went out there, but was

625
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:17.719
<v Speaker 1>there a moment where you were looking around, digging through stuff,

626
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:21.320
<v Speaker 1>looking through the utilities or whatever, where you thought, this

627
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:23.079
<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem right, there's something going on here.

628
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:29.239
<v Speaker 2>The first time where I had actual knowledge that things

629
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:33.599
<v Speaker 2>were not as presented and on the shadier side, was

630
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:38.719
<v Speaker 2>an event where I discovered that the ELF system that

631
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:44.360
<v Speaker 2>we had been officially told was was disabled to de energize,

632
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:48.960
<v Speaker 2>not functioning, and I learned that that was not true,

633
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:53.360
<v Speaker 2>that it absolutely was energized. The system was up and running.

634
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<v Speaker 2>And I came to this knowledge just because I was

635
00:39:56.400 --> 00:39:59.920
<v Speaker 2>trying to work on a circuit that was next to

636
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:07.079
<v Speaker 2>that circuit and because things weren't labeled correctly. I guess

637
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:10.519
<v Speaker 2>you would say, I had to, you know, check as

638
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<v Speaker 2>to why, you know, some circuits were on that were

639
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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be off. And that's when I learned that

640
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<v Speaker 2>it was the ELF system. It was up and running,

641
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<v Speaker 2>and that the circuit that I was looking to de

642
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<v Speaker 2>energize was the next circuit over. So it was pretty

643
00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:28.800
<v Speaker 2>much just suggested that I should just get back onto

644
00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:33.840
<v Speaker 2>my task and you know, hustle up, because now the

645
00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:35.480
<v Speaker 2>circuits had been safely identified.

646
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<v Speaker 1>And what's your understanding of what the purpose of that

647
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:41.400
<v Speaker 1>ELF hardware is? That's probably the second device, right the

648
00:40:41.400 --> 00:40:45.000
<v Speaker 1>ice cream nutrino detectors Number one, ELF is number two.

649
00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:48.400
<v Speaker 2>ELF is number two. And again I would say that

650
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:57.519
<v Speaker 2>directed energy weapons platforms are multi faceted. So I'm going

651
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<v Speaker 2>to make suggestions of the things that I believe can

652
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:06.840
<v Speaker 2>be accomplished with this type of technology. But I do

653
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:13.840
<v Speaker 2>not want to limit the list of things that these

654
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:18.760
<v Speaker 2>things can do just to my understanding and imagination, because

655
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<v Speaker 2>I think that's one of the first problems we have

656
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:26.639
<v Speaker 2>with these systems is not appreciating how manifold they can be.

657
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<v Speaker 1>That's fair, Yeah, go ahead, Uh, what do you think

658
00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:32.079
<v Speaker 1>in regards.

659
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<v Speaker 2>To the In regards to the ELF, it's been known

660
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:43.039
<v Speaker 2>for years that these systems work with submarine communications, so

661
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:45.320
<v Speaker 2>hence there would be secrecy that would want to be

662
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:50.880
<v Speaker 2>applied in that capacity alone. And then we get into

663
00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:56.800
<v Speaker 2>the spectrum of the directed energy weapons side of it,

664
00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:04.400
<v Speaker 2>and we can go from weather modification to earthquake manipulation

665
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:13.079
<v Speaker 2>to full blown insertion of thought into mind like a

666
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:16.119
<v Speaker 2>like a mind control consideration. These are all things that

667
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:21.280
<v Speaker 2>we have to lay at the feet of these massive

668
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:26.400
<v Speaker 2>transmitters that are operating on frequencies and doing things that

669
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:29.760
<v Speaker 2>you know their secret for a reason. But if we

670
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:36.239
<v Speaker 2>start to investigate what the paperwork says is possible, well,

671
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:38.800
<v Speaker 2>then that's what should be giving us pause when when

672
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:41.760
<v Speaker 2>people do the research and see that you know, well,

673
00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:48.320
<v Speaker 2>these are the frequencies that they suggest intrusive thoughts could

674
00:42:48.360 --> 00:42:48.880
<v Speaker 2>be applied.

675
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:54.639
<v Speaker 1>And the thing that I want to also harp upon here,

676
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:58.880
<v Speaker 1>and I don't mean that as a double entundra, but

677
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:04.280
<v Speaker 1>the thing with that, I think people need to understand

678
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.360
<v Speaker 1>about radar and detection systems that you've said many times

679
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:10.079
<v Speaker 1>as well as and it's not simply a passive device

680
00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:14.559
<v Speaker 1>that is listening. The same technology that we use with

681
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:18.000
<v Speaker 1>radar is what can be used to create a phase

682
00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:21.440
<v Speaker 1>conjugate effect where you now have your waves cancel each

683
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:24.079
<v Speaker 1>other out and you create this scaler potential which seems

684
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:26.920
<v Speaker 1>like you can imagine like an invisible beam of potential

685
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:29.880
<v Speaker 1>energy and then you can rebuild that energy at a distance.

686
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:33.039
<v Speaker 1>So when you think of it that way, radar is

687
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:36.920
<v Speaker 1>very easily converted into a weapon. And that's where I

688
00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:40.000
<v Speaker 1>personally think a lot of this technology goes back to.

689
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:43.960
<v Speaker 1>And this is where I think my investigation, in Eric's

690
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:48.159
<v Speaker 1>investigation into what happened to Antarctica have this crossover is

691
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:51.039
<v Speaker 1>that we're just missing a very important aspect of physics

692
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:53.480
<v Speaker 1>that we have thrown out, and once you bring it

693
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:56.360
<v Speaker 1>back in, it gets really scary because then you start

694
00:43:56.400 --> 00:44:00.280
<v Speaker 1>talking about a lot of crazy stuff being possible, you know,

695
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:02.440
<v Speaker 1>stuff that I think that you know, most people with this.

696
00:44:03.559 --> 00:44:05.639
<v Speaker 2>And it's so easy. It's I mean, it's actually so

697
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:08.760
<v Speaker 2>easy to consider. I mean, one of the things that

698
00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Tesla was getting at way back when was that here

699
00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:15.760
<v Speaker 2>we are, we're all we're all actively functioning in the

700
00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:20.840
<v Speaker 2>hurt seeing wavelength band. That's the section of the phenomena

701
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:28.639
<v Speaker 2>of electricity that we're utilizing. That's not the limit of anything.

702
00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:32.679
<v Speaker 2>Like when you say scale ar or lognitudinal waves, that

703
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:36.400
<v Speaker 2>is still just yet another chapter in the book of

704
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:41.880
<v Speaker 2>electrical frequency. There's a lot more frequencies out there that

705
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:46.880
<v Speaker 2>we don't even bring into the conversation, but it's almost

706
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:51.320
<v Speaker 2>limitless when we look at the cosmos, like Tesla says,

707
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:54.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, frequency and vibration, there's a lot more than

708
00:44:55.000 --> 00:45:00.239
<v Speaker 2>just simple hurt scene wavelength activity. Yeah.

709
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I think Tesla was right personally, and I want to

710
00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:05.639
<v Speaker 1>talk about with you about that in a little bit here.

711
00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:08.639
<v Speaker 1>Real quick question before we move on from the ELF though,

712
00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:14.159
<v Speaker 1>is I found this diagram on Antarctica's ELF website or

713
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:17.199
<v Speaker 1>some university's website here. Do you know any are you

714
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:19.400
<v Speaker 1>familiar with in these other locations? It's got South Pole

715
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:22.719
<v Speaker 1>listed here, but it's also got McMurdo and Palmer. Are

716
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:24.880
<v Speaker 1>these also stations? Have you heard of any of these

717
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:25.480
<v Speaker 1>by any chances?

718
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? Yep. So I've been to McMurdo and to South Pole.

719
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:31.519
<v Speaker 2>I have not been to Palmer. But those are the

720
00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:37.199
<v Speaker 2>three facilities that are operating as the United States Antarctic

721
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:41.039
<v Speaker 2>Program under the National Science Foundation. It's those three facilities

722
00:45:41.079 --> 00:45:45.119
<v Speaker 2>that are considered the American aspect.

723
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:48.679
<v Speaker 1>So do you think they all have ELF antenna and

724
00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:51.920
<v Speaker 1>transmitters on them? Sure?

725
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:59.280
<v Speaker 2>If the South Pole has the actual e L F antenna,

726
00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:05.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't gather that McMurdo or Palmer would need the antenna,

727
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:09.239
<v Speaker 2>so to say. But I wouldn't be surprised if they

728
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:15.800
<v Speaker 2>weren't some sort of technology at their locations that afforded

729
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:19.159
<v Speaker 2>some sort of I guess the word I'm looking for

730
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:24.159
<v Speaker 2>would be like steerability targeting almost to assist in its

731
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:28.519
<v Speaker 2>delivery from south Pole. That by having, as you can

732
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:31.320
<v Speaker 2>see on the map, those two other facilities, that if

733
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:35.400
<v Speaker 2>the south Pole was to fire through them, I believe

734
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:39.719
<v Speaker 2>that there would be something utilized through the other two

735
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:44.840
<v Speaker 2>facilities to help in directing it to where it's supposed

736
00:46:44.840 --> 00:46:45.119
<v Speaker 2>to go.

737
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<v Speaker 1>And the thing that kind of creeps me out about

738
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:49.320
<v Speaker 1>this image that I'm looking at here is how you

739
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:54.239
<v Speaker 1>can see the lines on these and the infrometry zones

740
00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:56.599
<v Speaker 1>on them as well. And in fact, just like a

741
00:46:56.639 --> 00:46:59.440
<v Speaker 1>week or two ago, there was a weird anomaly there

742
00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:01.920
<v Speaker 1>was actually like this size that we're looking at on

743
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>this graph in this exact location that everybody was talking about.

744
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:08.800
<v Speaker 1>And this does make me wonder, especially when I go

745
00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:10.599
<v Speaker 1>down to this next graph. We're talking about the participation

746
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:15.159
<v Speaker 1>precipitation region, and if we're talking about stuff like manipulating

747
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:17.360
<v Speaker 1>the weather, I'm sitting here wondering, like, why do I

748
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:20.400
<v Speaker 1>have all these interferometry zones and connection points between all

749
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:23.280
<v Speaker 1>these locations and these VLF receiver sites that are on

750
00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:26.519
<v Speaker 1>this graph here. So it makes me wonder like, are

751
00:47:26.519 --> 00:47:29.880
<v Speaker 1>we not just measuring the weather but potentially you know,

752
00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:33.960
<v Speaker 1>impacting it as well. And yes, it does seem like,

753
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:35.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, for a lot of people out there, that's

754
00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:37.960
<v Speaker 1>probably you know, we're pushing what they're willing to believe.

755
00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:40.679
<v Speaker 1>But I think that once you start to dig into

756
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:43.599
<v Speaker 1>what Tesla was capable of, you'll start to realize that, like,

757
00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:48.559
<v Speaker 1>our planet is one big capacitor, and if we manipulate

758
00:47:48.599 --> 00:47:53.199
<v Speaker 1>this ionosphere magnetosphere, we can manipulate you know, the climate

759
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:55.400
<v Speaker 1>potentially and everything about our lives.

760
00:47:56.280 --> 00:47:58.480
<v Speaker 2>There was a report from the Air Force back in

761
00:47:58.519 --> 00:48:02.039
<v Speaker 2>the early eighties and I have this in my business.

762
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:03.679
<v Speaker 2>It was given to me back when it was a

763
00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:06.199
<v Speaker 2>big deal in super secret and I was told to

764
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:09.880
<v Speaker 2>watch yourself with this, but it has since become much

765
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:12.599
<v Speaker 2>more public knowledge. But it was a report that the

766
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Air Force had about how they would have control of

767
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:19.960
<v Speaker 2>the weather by the year twenty twenty five.

768
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:23.199
<v Speaker 1>Wow, what if they got there lit early.

769
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:28.480
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a research and development project, it wasn't maybe

770
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:31.159
<v Speaker 2>we'll pull this off. This was a report on what

771
00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:36.239
<v Speaker 2>they were going to have direct control of by the

772
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:37.679
<v Speaker 2>year twenty twenty five.

773
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:40.559
<v Speaker 1>Some people in the chat right now too are saying

774
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:43.960
<v Speaker 1>that there's other bases around that have ELF transmitters like this,

775
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and if you were to imagine that all we need

776
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:47.880
<v Speaker 1>to do is create an interferometry zone that you'd want

777
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:50.679
<v Speaker 1>these kind of all over the planet or various locations

778
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:52.800
<v Speaker 1>where you can then just cross the streams on any

779
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:54.679
<v Speaker 1>point in the planet that you want. And like I

780
00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:56.960
<v Speaker 1>was saying before, and take that and apply to satellites.

781
00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Like we were just looking at that Navy paper, which

782
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:02.079
<v Speaker 1>I think i've I still have it open here. If

783
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:04.679
<v Speaker 1>I pull this back up again, you know, you look

784
00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:06.119
<v Speaker 1>at this, it's like, you.

785
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Know, you got a lot of people discussing the SOSIS array.

786
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:12.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, I don't think you get a lot of

787
00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:18.920
<v Speaker 2>people that have any idea how extensive the SOSIS array is.

788
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:24.840
<v Speaker 1>That's been very relevant for my research. So little side note.

789
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I've been investigating MH three seven zero and people think, oh, well,

790
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:30.639
<v Speaker 1>this plane just crashed somewhere in the middle of the

791
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:32.320
<v Speaker 1>ocean and we're just never going to find it. We

792
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:35.599
<v Speaker 1>just didn't ever find it, and they kind of gave

793
00:49:35.639 --> 00:49:40.159
<v Speaker 1>away the game when the Titan sub in uh near

794
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:43.800
<v Speaker 1>the Titanic imploded. This is a sub that only holds

795
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:47.199
<v Speaker 1>four people. It's a tiny little sub, and the Navy

796
00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:50.360
<v Speaker 1>just comes out five days later, after every single cable

797
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:54.039
<v Speaker 1>news station's going how much oxygen do these people have left?

798
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:56.159
<v Speaker 1>And they go maybe goes, yeah, well we heard that

799
00:49:56.239 --> 00:49:58.880
<v Speaker 1>implode like five days ago. We just didn't tell anybody.

800
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:00.239
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, we're going to go pick it

801
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:03.400
<v Speaker 1>up because we triangulate the exact position of it using

802
00:50:03.480 --> 00:50:07.239
<v Speaker 1>our SOCIS system that's out there. Well spoiler, guys, that

803
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:10.320
<v Speaker 1>system was declassifying like twenty twelve. It's been out there

804
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:14.239
<v Speaker 1>for well over ten years. Like we can pinpoint acoustic

805
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:16.719
<v Speaker 1>sounds anywhere in the ocean, and I don't think people

806
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:18.519
<v Speaker 1>realize that. Do you have any other insights to the

807
00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:19.239
<v Speaker 1>SOCIA system?

808
00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it pervades every inch of every wet spot on

809
00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:26.000
<v Speaker 2>the planet.

810
00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Really, how did you find out about it?

811
00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:30.960
<v Speaker 2>I was in the submarine service for a short period

812
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:31.320
<v Speaker 2>of time.

813
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh so you knew about it before the Titan sub.

814
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:36.360
<v Speaker 2>I knew about it in nineteen ninety four.

815
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:40.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, So this is guys like if you are

816
00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:43.119
<v Speaker 1>out there and you are in let's say ufology, and

817
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:48.519
<v Speaker 1>you've been hearing about these USOS unidentified submersible objects that

818
00:50:48.599 --> 00:50:51.880
<v Speaker 1>have been moving really fast. Like the Navy and the

819
00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:54.880
<v Speaker 1>military knows what's going on in the water. We've got

820
00:50:54.920 --> 00:50:57.000
<v Speaker 1>these acoustic systems that are out there. We have to

821
00:50:57.000 --> 00:51:01.320
<v Speaker 1>be extremely naive to think that something that crashes into

822
00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:03.239
<v Speaker 1>the ocean or is moving around to the ocean that

823
00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:05.320
<v Speaker 1>we're not that we're not hearing it out there and all.

824
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of frequencies these things give off

825
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:09.440
<v Speaker 1>are very unique as well. It's not like, oh, we're

826
00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:14.159
<v Speaker 1>accidentally hearing whales or something like that. There was sophisticated systems.

827
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Like Eric just said, I actually went out with it.

828
00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:23.079
<v Speaker 2>There's a TV series called The Alaska Triangle. So I

829
00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:25.519
<v Speaker 2>got contacted by them and I went and filmed an

830
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:29.360
<v Speaker 2>episode in season two, episode nine. They sent me out

831
00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:35.360
<v Speaker 2>to catch a can Alaska to locate unidentified submerged objects.

832
00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:38.239
<v Speaker 2>They basically said, there's been reports out here and do

833
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:40.320
<v Speaker 2>you think with what you know in your skill set,

834
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:42.519
<v Speaker 2>do you think you can go track these things down?

835
00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:46.760
<v Speaker 2>And I said sure, So I actually went with the

836
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:54.239
<v Speaker 2>Alaska Triangle crew located a underwater spot where there was

837
00:51:54.960 --> 00:52:01.400
<v Speaker 2>unidentified submerged object activity. The production through the captain, everybody

838
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:04.480
<v Speaker 2>was all excited as we were recording every bit of it,

839
00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:08.480
<v Speaker 2>and everybody was being all congratulatory, Oh you know, you

840
00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:11.800
<v Speaker 2>found it. Well, they edited all of that out from

841
00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:13.360
<v Speaker 2>the episode.

842
00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:15.679
<v Speaker 1>They edited you out, or just that part about you

843
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:16.039
<v Speaker 1>find it.

844
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:19.559
<v Speaker 2>Edited out the activity of finding it. So they played

845
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:22.000
<v Speaker 2>all of the parts where we were searching and hunting

846
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:25.559
<v Speaker 2>and the statements being made by me like oh, not

847
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:29.920
<v Speaker 2>finding anything here, you know, just natural. Like they really

848
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:35.280
<v Speaker 2>pushed out the part of not finding and removed the

849
00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:37.960
<v Speaker 2>part of finding. Wow.

850
00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:42.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, the sociystem system thing is is pretty wild.

851
00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:44.199
<v Speaker 1>I was just reading through it right there on the

852
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Wikipedia of it, and it goes back even much further

853
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:50.880
<v Speaker 1>than I thought. So I think that our surveillance apparatus

854
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:52.920
<v Speaker 1>is another thing in my opinion, people need to get

855
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:55.440
<v Speaker 1>their their minds around. It's not just direct energy weapons,

856
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:57.480
<v Speaker 1>but like we are seeing and hearing everything that's going

857
00:52:57.519 --> 00:52:59.679
<v Speaker 1>on on our planet. There is no hiding anywhere in

858
00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the shin or anything like that.

859
00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh not at all, And that's that's where all the

860
00:53:04.320 --> 00:53:08.320
<v Speaker 2>real activity is going on on this planet. You know,

861
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:11.440
<v Speaker 2>seventy percent of the world is covered in water, and

862
00:53:11.519 --> 00:53:13.559
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you right now whatever is happening below

863
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:17.079
<v Speaker 2>the surface of the waves. Dead men tell no tales

864
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:21.119
<v Speaker 2>and history books are written by the victors. So whatever

865
00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:25.440
<v Speaker 2>the winning submarine captain says happened, that's what happened.

866
00:53:26.519 --> 00:53:28.960
<v Speaker 1>That's scary, man, especially for somebody like you, sir, who

867
00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:33.199
<v Speaker 1>has actually, you know, worked on submarines before. So what

868
00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:37.440
<v Speaker 1>about did you have any experiences with or what can

869
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:41.760
<v Speaker 1>you tell me about the ro the hardware system that's

870
00:53:41.800 --> 00:53:43.159
<v Speaker 1>out there on Antarctica.

871
00:53:44.519 --> 00:53:49.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, oh Aro, yes, s are you getting that's

872
00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:49.599
<v Speaker 2>the double air.

873
00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:50.800
<v Speaker 1>We'll get to that one later. Yeah.

874
00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:56.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So ar was the Atmospheric Research Observatory at the

875
00:53:56.239 --> 00:54:00.599
<v Speaker 2>South Pole Station. It was run by Noah, which people

876
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:04.199
<v Speaker 2>are learning has a very interesting there you go.

877
00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:09.559
<v Speaker 1>That's a great shot green laser beams. That's yeah, nothing

878
00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:10.719
<v Speaker 1>nothing suspicious there.

879
00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, please disperse. And that actually looks to not be

880
00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:23.159
<v Speaker 2>the Arrow building because it's too small, So that appears

881
00:54:23.199 --> 00:54:26.440
<v Speaker 2>to be some other facility. What is this article calling that?

882
00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:35.000
<v Speaker 1>It says the Space Agency's Research Station an Arctica doesn't.

883
00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:40.239
<v Speaker 2>So that's a different facility with a La Concordia. Oh, Concordia, Yeah,

884
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Concordia station. So is that a separate area in the same,

885
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:50.280
<v Speaker 2>completely different facility than the one that I was at.

886
00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:53.639
<v Speaker 2>So now we're just seeing, you know, more of this

887
00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:58.960
<v Speaker 2>freaky green laser activity. The research that I have done

888
00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:06.679
<v Speaker 2>has made me understand that these lasers, especially green ones,

889
00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:14.440
<v Speaker 2>take a ridiculous amount of energy to fire for fractions

890
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:18.039
<v Speaker 2>of a second. But I can tell you that with

891
00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:23.320
<v Speaker 2>my own eyes I observed the unit firing from the

892
00:55:23.559 --> 00:55:29.320
<v Speaker 2>arrow building at south Pole for many minutes on end.

893
00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:36.159
<v Speaker 1>I think I read yesterday that they fire for like

894
00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:39.239
<v Speaker 1>every hour, every thirty minutes, for like five minutes straight

895
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:41.280
<v Speaker 1>or something. Does that sound right to you? What do

896
00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:42.679
<v Speaker 1>you think that they're.

897
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:46.119
<v Speaker 2>I've never heard frequency on it. It was from my

898
00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:50.039
<v Speaker 2>perspective when I was there, it was made out like

899
00:55:50.159 --> 00:55:53.440
<v Speaker 2>it was some sort of you know, random thing that

900
00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:58.360
<v Speaker 2>they did sometimes and sometimes I would see it, sometimes

901
00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:03.199
<v Speaker 2>I didn't. But there certainly plenty of times that I

902
00:56:03.239 --> 00:56:06.320
<v Speaker 2>would not be looking in that direction, and it could

903
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:09.679
<v Speaker 2>have been firing every fifteen minutes for all I know.

904
00:56:11.360 --> 00:56:14.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know. All I know is I see green

905
00:56:14.159 --> 00:56:16.320
<v Speaker 1>laser beams. I'm going out, soide I'm painting my roof blue.

906
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm just just to be safe. But this actually says

907
00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:22.199
<v Speaker 1>in this article that is emitted for every every or

908
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:25.639
<v Speaker 1>for sixty seconds every five minutes during the wintertime, which

909
00:56:26.639 --> 00:56:30.159
<v Speaker 1>is pretty bizarre. It says what it's used is to

910
00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:34.599
<v Speaker 1>measure the likes of temperature, cloud formations and airsol particles,

911
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:37.599
<v Speaker 1>which seems pretty mundane to me. Do you have any

912
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:40.519
<v Speaker 1>other thoughts about what other uses might there might be

913
00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:41.199
<v Speaker 1>for something like this?

914
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I believe that all of these systems

915
00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:52.159
<v Speaker 2>can provide for the benign primary purpose they're presented. That's

916
00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:56.159
<v Speaker 2>the cover story. Cool, But then we have to, as

917
00:56:56.280 --> 00:56:59.639
<v Speaker 2>human beings applied discernment and look at what else these

918
00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:04.480
<v Speaker 2>systems can also do and then question whether people would

919
00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:08.280
<v Speaker 2>be doing that. So in regards to what else can

920
00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:16.719
<v Speaker 2>this system do besides whether observations and atmosphere considerations, we

921
00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:20.440
<v Speaker 2>have to look at what the technology of chemical lasers

922
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:27.079
<v Speaker 2>are and some options for very long range laser like communications.

923
00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:32.239
<v Speaker 2>These are technologies that are on the table for being

924
00:57:32.440 --> 00:57:36.599
<v Speaker 2>discussed as something we might be able to do in

925
00:57:36.639 --> 00:57:41.320
<v Speaker 2>the future. But I think enough precedent has been set

926
00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:44.360
<v Speaker 2>that we the people of this planet are learning that

927
00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:47.760
<v Speaker 2>for the most part, by this time that something gets

928
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:51.400
<v Speaker 2>to market for them to bill us for a product

929
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:54.599
<v Speaker 2>that we've already invested in decades ago, for the research

930
00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:58.679
<v Speaker 2>and development for these technologies to be used for war,

931
00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:03.639
<v Speaker 2>or a few decades first before we the people are

932
00:58:03.679 --> 00:58:10.199
<v Speaker 2>then tolerated the benefit of the technological advancement of our investment.

933
00:58:11.079 --> 00:58:14.039
<v Speaker 2>Is just a sad state of where we are, but

934
00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:18.360
<v Speaker 2>it's it's observable. So these are just again new technologies

935
00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:24.920
<v Speaker 2>that we are becoming privy to after decades of use

936
00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:29.440
<v Speaker 2>by the military industrial complex to kill people. Now they're

937
00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:31.559
<v Speaker 2>just like, well, right, well, we're done killing people with

938
00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:34.880
<v Speaker 2>these technologies, but boy, we're about to profit. This is

939
00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:36.199
<v Speaker 2>profit season now.

940
00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:41.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And for the people that don't believe, you know,

941
00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:43.920
<v Speaker 1>just take a look at this report that I've pulled

942
00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:46.519
<v Speaker 1>up here directly from the Air Force. I mean, they're

943
00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:50.760
<v Speaker 1>taking it seriously. So this is the part where it

944
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:53.280
<v Speaker 1>seems like a lot of that information is just out

945
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:56.480
<v Speaker 1>there for people, and that's the part of the scary.

946
00:58:56.559 --> 00:58:58.440
<v Speaker 1>So one of the things I've heard you say about

947
00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:01.159
<v Speaker 1>maybe the green laser beams are maybe all of it combined,

948
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:04.760
<v Speaker 1>is the idea of fashion like communication. Do you believe

949
00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:07.239
<v Speaker 1>that that's one of the capabilities is that of the

950
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:09.079
<v Speaker 1>potentially the Antarctic facility or other ones?

951
00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? And I do have scientific paperwork in the archive

952
00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:20.239
<v Speaker 2>section on my website which supports the plausibility of such technology.

953
00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Is that when we get into phase or A transmitters

954
00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:29.360
<v Speaker 2>constructed similarly to the unit the ice cube nutrino detecting

955
00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:32.800
<v Speaker 2>unit at the South Pole. I mean, this is this

956
00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:34.639
<v Speaker 2>is how they would do it. This is what we're

957
00:59:34.679 --> 00:59:37.039
<v Speaker 2>looking for. This is the science. You know, Oh, you

958
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:39.559
<v Speaker 2>got to trust the science, Well, trust me. This is

959
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:44.199
<v Speaker 2>this is the science of quantum entangled you know, faster

960
00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:48.039
<v Speaker 2>than like communications. There are folks out there before me,

961
00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:50.960
<v Speaker 2>before you, that have let us know that there is

962
00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:53.360
<v Speaker 2>an off is an off world fleet. I mean, what

963
00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:55.880
<v Speaker 2>are we going to do? This is just the cards

964
00:59:55.920 --> 00:59:59.400
<v Speaker 2>that we've been dealt. If you're going to have vessels

965
00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:03.480
<v Speaker 2>leaving this planet and going at great distances to accomplish

966
01:00:03.480 --> 01:00:05.679
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is you're putting them to task to do,

967
01:00:06.119 --> 01:00:09.960
<v Speaker 2>you're going to need to have a communications system to

968
01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:12.719
<v Speaker 2>keep in touch with them, and the South Pole station

969
01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:14.000
<v Speaker 2>has that capacity.

970
01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that this is something that I talked

971
01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:20.400
<v Speaker 1>with Professor Simon Howell. He's got a YouTube channel you

972
01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:24.480
<v Speaker 1>guys can check out, and he has a contact that

973
01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:27.679
<v Speaker 1>worked with I think it's like the European SETI, and

974
01:00:27.719 --> 01:00:29.400
<v Speaker 1>SETI is the organization that is trying to look for

975
01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:32.719
<v Speaker 1>signals out there. That basically told him we've received signals,

976
01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:35.199
<v Speaker 1>but not just have we received signals, but that we

977
01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:37.840
<v Speaker 1>have fashion like communication and we've been covering it up.

978
01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:41.480
<v Speaker 1>And before people discount that, I would say, go look

979
01:00:41.559 --> 01:00:43.960
<v Speaker 1>up gun or Nimitz. I went and looked him up,

980
01:00:44.320 --> 01:00:48.239
<v Speaker 1>and he has a very specific scientific experiment that he

981
01:00:48.320 --> 01:00:50.920
<v Speaker 1>set up with prisms where he was able to show

982
01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:52.760
<v Speaker 1>that when the light he reflects the light off of

983
01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:55.440
<v Speaker 1>one prism and it goes to the next prism, and

984
01:00:55.519 --> 01:00:59.119
<v Speaker 1>the distance here is traversed instantaneously. The moment that the

985
01:00:59.159 --> 01:01:02.079
<v Speaker 1>light laser beam exits the one prism, it enters the

986
01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:07.440
<v Speaker 1>next prism instantly. He was supposed to do a presentation

987
01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:09.079
<v Speaker 1>in like two thousand and five two thousand and six

988
01:01:09.159 --> 01:01:12.400
<v Speaker 1>just didn't show up. It seems like a repeat thing.

989
01:01:12.639 --> 01:01:17.880
<v Speaker 1>And then twenty nineteen, some students or maybe they're I

990
01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:19.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know if they are physics students, but they were

991
01:01:19.320 --> 01:01:21.039
<v Speaker 1>at a competition, and I think it was in Germany,

992
01:01:21.039 --> 01:01:24.679
<v Speaker 1>and they proved the experiment worked, and it's they've gone

993
01:01:24.679 --> 01:01:28.199
<v Speaker 1>and redone the experiment to actually detect if it's moving

994
01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:30.880
<v Speaker 1>faster than the speed of light communication and they measured

995
01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:34.079
<v Speaker 1>it at like twenty four attoseconds, which is some minuscule

996
01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:37.360
<v Speaker 1>number out there. So I would urge people not to

997
01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:41.000
<v Speaker 1>just discount these claims just on the basis of not

998
01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:42.199
<v Speaker 1>believing it to be possible.

999
01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:45.960
<v Speaker 2>So there's so many things that we haven't I mean,

1000
01:01:46.679 --> 01:01:53.880
<v Speaker 2>our brains haven't even imagined what's possible, and we're still

1001
01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:58.000
<v Speaker 2>limiting ourselves to a definition that's ludicrous, like similar to

1002
01:01:58.039 --> 01:02:01.119
<v Speaker 2>what you were just saying. They now have gemstones for

1003
01:02:01.239 --> 01:02:03.119
<v Speaker 2>lack of a better term, that can be you know,

1004
01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:07.559
<v Speaker 2>cut so that the surfaces are arranged in a particular fashion,

1005
01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:10.800
<v Speaker 2>and then they can rotate these gems at a high

1006
01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:14.400
<v Speaker 2>rate of speed so that when they inject light into

1007
01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:18.199
<v Speaker 2>one of the cut surfaces, that now, because of the

1008
01:02:18.280 --> 01:02:22.599
<v Speaker 2>rotation of the gem and its surfaces, now that gem

1009
01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:28.440
<v Speaker 2>will actually bounce the light around inside and contain it.

1010
01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:32.400
<v Speaker 2>And this is a whole other new direction of science

1011
01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:35.480
<v Speaker 2>because now if you can put this light into this

1012
01:02:35.599 --> 01:02:40.559
<v Speaker 2>gemstone and contain it. There's again, now there's conversations are on.

1013
01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:43.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, have you just created a whole new world?

1014
01:02:43.559 --> 01:02:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Is this a new dimension? What's going on in there?

1015
01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:52.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Experiments? I mean it's it's talking about holding the

1016
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:57.960
<v Speaker 1>photons into superposition using specific lattice structures is usually what

1017
01:02:57.960 --> 01:02:59.840
<v Speaker 1>they talk When we're talking about crystals, we're talking about

1018
01:02:59.880 --> 01:03:02.400
<v Speaker 1>like the crystalline structure of the atoms being set up

1019
01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:05.480
<v Speaker 1>in a very specific way, organized way which can allow

1020
01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:06.960
<v Speaker 1>some of those It's very similar to the idea of

1021
01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:07.679
<v Speaker 1>a meta material.

1022
01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:11.400
<v Speaker 2>And then we get into peculiar rules and regulations of physics,

1023
01:03:11.440 --> 01:03:14.119
<v Speaker 2>where now we start talking about things being you know,

1024
01:03:14.440 --> 01:03:17.320
<v Speaker 2>superimposed in every direction, which means that what we're looking

1025
01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:21.400
<v Speaker 2>at is all possibility at once. It's like what we

1026
01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:23.199
<v Speaker 2>what do we even talk like this? It starts to

1027
01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:28.559
<v Speaker 2>get really profound and fast because then people start talking

1028
01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:32.480
<v Speaker 2>about creator and creation and you know what, what what

1029
01:03:32.559 --> 01:03:35.960
<v Speaker 2>do these things mean? You know? What is it?

1030
01:03:37.199 --> 01:03:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Sorry? Someone in the chat pointed out piesol electrics

1031
01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:42.719
<v Speaker 1>as well, which you talk about the pyramids. People have

1032
01:03:42.800 --> 01:03:45.119
<v Speaker 1>argued that the pyramid might have been a pizol electric

1033
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:47.760
<v Speaker 1>type of power plant when you talk about some types

1034
01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:49.679
<v Speaker 1>of crystals, when we're talking about pies of electrics, like

1035
01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:51.800
<v Speaker 1>quartzes as a pies of electric crystal. They use it

1036
01:03:51.800 --> 01:03:55.360
<v Speaker 1>in people's watches that don't have any batteries because when

1037
01:03:55.360 --> 01:03:59.440
<v Speaker 1>you squeeze it, it produces electricity. So there's already magic

1038
01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:02.199
<v Speaker 1>out there that people don't even realize on their day

1039
01:04:02.199 --> 01:04:04.679
<v Speaker 1>to day basis. But what do you think you know,

1040
01:04:04.800 --> 01:04:09.079
<v Speaker 1>given what you've gone through and what you've experienced, what

1041
01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:10.719
<v Speaker 1>do you think the nature of our universe is?

1042
01:04:10.719 --> 01:04:11.320
<v Speaker 2>What is this?

1043
01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:15.960
<v Speaker 1>How has this changed you spiritually or in those aspects?

1044
01:04:16.639 --> 01:04:23.119
<v Speaker 2>Ah, that great question, But my understanding of things would

1045
01:04:23.199 --> 01:04:27.800
<v Speaker 2>be its way less material and more energetic. It's life

1046
01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:33.440
<v Speaker 2>is more verb than down. It's more about action and

1047
01:04:33.599 --> 01:04:39.880
<v Speaker 2>decision in doing than it is about possessing or having

1048
01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:49.119
<v Speaker 2>or wanting. So I think that there's I guess power

1049
01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:59.800
<v Speaker 2>two deciding something, and a lot of intention and investment

1050
01:05:00.599 --> 01:05:04.800
<v Speaker 2>has been spent to make the vast majority of people

1051
01:05:04.840 --> 01:05:13.800
<v Speaker 2>wishy washy, and that if people just simply chose to

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01:05:13.840 --> 01:05:18.480
<v Speaker 2>do something in the world around them, that it would

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01:05:18.559 --> 01:05:23.000
<v Speaker 2>have a lot more impact than they've previously considered, and

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01:05:23.079 --> 01:05:30.159
<v Speaker 2>that people should feel more empowered to take part in

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01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:35.039
<v Speaker 2>their community and make decisions in do wherever you are,

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01:05:35.159 --> 01:05:41.559
<v Speaker 2>wherever you may be, do whatever you think is right always,

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01:05:42.159 --> 01:05:45.760
<v Speaker 2>and do that as much as you can. Because there

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01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:53.039
<v Speaker 2>seems to be technology investment, whatever you want to call it,

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01:05:54.039 --> 01:05:59.800
<v Speaker 2>by a new definition that wants people to do less.

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01:06:00.760 --> 01:06:01.239
<v Speaker 2>I like that.

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01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:04.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean I like that because what I've been throwing

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01:06:04.519 --> 01:06:07.000
<v Speaker 1>out there is this idea of the only way that

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01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:09.159
<v Speaker 1>a lot of this technology is possible, in my opinion,

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01:06:09.239 --> 01:06:13.199
<v Speaker 1>is that the holographic principle must be correct. And a

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01:06:13.239 --> 01:06:14.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of people say, well, that means that we live

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01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:18.519
<v Speaker 1>in a simulation and that life doesn't matter. And I

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01:06:18.559 --> 01:06:20.119
<v Speaker 1>want to tell people the opposite, And I think that

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01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:22.760
<v Speaker 1>what you just mentioned, it's like, when you look at this,

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01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:25.119
<v Speaker 1>it should bring people hope. In my opinion, it should

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01:06:25.159 --> 01:06:27.639
<v Speaker 1>tell you this is a world that you can make

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01:06:27.679 --> 01:06:30.199
<v Speaker 1>a huge difference in, that you can help build up,

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01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:33.159
<v Speaker 1>that you can make a better place for people. And

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01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:35.000
<v Speaker 1>that's how I see it. So I don't know what

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01:06:35.119 --> 01:06:38.440
<v Speaker 1>is your would you agree? Is that a good characterization

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01:06:38.519 --> 01:06:39.519
<v Speaker 1>of your opinion?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? Like, I think the power of the intention of

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01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:50.000
<v Speaker 2>each individual and then collectively as a group is so

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01:06:50.639 --> 01:06:55.920
<v Speaker 2>obviously important that we can observe by how much investment

1079
01:06:56.280 --> 01:07:01.199
<v Speaker 2>is already applied to make sure that we are of

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01:07:01.280 --> 01:07:05.679
<v Speaker 2>a unified opinion of something. But currently it just happens

1081
01:07:05.719 --> 01:07:09.480
<v Speaker 2>to be to the to the bid, to the highest bidder.

1082
01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:13.760
<v Speaker 2>But we can obviously see that there is intent and

1083
01:07:14.119 --> 01:07:21.920
<v Speaker 2>investment on what the mass of the population considers. That's

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01:07:22.079 --> 01:07:25.000
<v Speaker 2>that's paid for, that's observable. We can we can speak

1085
01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:29.719
<v Speaker 2>for hours on end about what's being most invested at

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01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:34.119
<v Speaker 2>this point in time, which is causing the most conversation

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01:07:34.320 --> 01:07:37.880
<v Speaker 2>amongst the most people. I mean, this is just marketing

1088
01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:40.760
<v Speaker 2>one on one at this point and observable, but certainly

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01:07:40.800 --> 01:07:44.920
<v Speaker 2>that activity is going on the minds of the masses

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01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:48.199
<v Speaker 2>are wholely owned at this point.

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01:07:49.719 --> 01:07:52.039
<v Speaker 1>Social media was a mistake. You just heard it right

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01:07:52.079 --> 01:07:55.039
<v Speaker 1>here from Eric. They've taken control of our minds. That's

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01:07:55.159 --> 01:07:58.559
<v Speaker 1>probably the only thing more powerful than a directed energy

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01:07:58.599 --> 01:08:00.440
<v Speaker 1>weapon or a neutrino unquote.

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01:08:00.559 --> 01:08:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Also provable by science, because there's an easy experiment that

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01:08:05.400 --> 01:08:08.559
<v Speaker 2>we can apply right now. Right, if I'm wrong, right,

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01:08:08.599 --> 01:08:12.519
<v Speaker 2>if all of you are not addicted to your technology,

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01:08:13.159 --> 01:08:14.960
<v Speaker 2>the only thing you have to do to prove me

1099
01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:17.279
<v Speaker 2>wrong is simply walk away from it right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry I didn't hear that, right, I was too busy

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01:08:21.039 --> 01:08:22.199
<v Speaker 1>tweeting my faults.

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01:08:22.279 --> 01:08:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean they had the plank challenge

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01:08:25.640 --> 01:08:27.560
<v Speaker 2>back in the day, right, you know, thirty seconds of

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01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:30.640
<v Speaker 2>planking increased to a minute to five minutes. I challenge

1105
01:08:30.680 --> 01:08:34.239
<v Speaker 2>people to do that with their technology. If you're not addicted,

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01:08:34.279 --> 01:08:37.800
<v Speaker 2>it should just simply be easy. You know, how long

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01:08:37.800 --> 01:08:40.359
<v Speaker 2>can you spend away from your phone? How long can

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01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:43.239
<v Speaker 2>you exit your house and go somewhere without it?

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01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:47.159
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's a great challenge for everybody who's

1110
01:08:47.159 --> 01:08:48.880
<v Speaker 1>out there is watching. Not right now, just to make

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01:08:48.920 --> 01:08:51.319
<v Speaker 1>sure you still watch this interview, but after this interview,

1112
01:08:51.359 --> 01:08:54.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe go for a walk, just get outside, get away

1113
01:08:54.039 --> 01:08:56.199
<v Speaker 1>from the computer for a little bit. I think that

1114
01:08:56.199 --> 01:08:58.960
<v Speaker 1>would do all of us some good. Now, going back

1115
01:08:58.960 --> 01:09:00.880
<v Speaker 1>to Antarctica real quick, and then I want to talk

1116
01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:03.680
<v Speaker 1>to you about just broader suppression and stuff like that.

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01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Did you have any let's say, scary experiences while you're

1118
01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:11.479
<v Speaker 1>out there. What was the scariest experience that you potentially had,

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01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:15.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, being part of the fire brigade if you

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01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:17.680
<v Speaker 1>want to call it that, or stuff that's out.

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01:09:17.560 --> 01:09:22.159
<v Speaker 2>There, Yeah, they're there. Absolutely were moments of sheer terror

1122
01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:29.279
<v Speaker 2>in between the benign mundane, you know, routine stuff. One

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01:09:29.319 --> 01:09:34.199
<v Speaker 2>story in particular was we had alarms go off, which

1124
01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:37.039
<v Speaker 2>was common, you know, things went into alarm and we

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01:09:37.079 --> 01:09:39.640
<v Speaker 2>would you know, get fired up and gear up and

1126
01:09:39.960 --> 01:09:42.600
<v Speaker 2>do what we have to do. But on this particular occasion,

1127
01:09:43.920 --> 01:09:46.760
<v Speaker 2>the alarm had come in that it was for the

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01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:53.000
<v Speaker 2>balloon inflation facility, which was on the lower level of

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01:09:53.119 --> 01:09:57.680
<v Speaker 2>what we referred to as cryo. So if the biff,

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01:09:57.800 --> 01:10:01.760
<v Speaker 2>if the balloon inflation facility was in fact on fire,

1131
01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:05.640
<v Speaker 2>that means that it could continue to burn up and

1132
01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:11.399
<v Speaker 2>over to the cryogenic facility. And the cryo facility had

1133
01:10:11.720 --> 01:10:17.520
<v Speaker 2>about a half a million gallons of chilled helium and

1134
01:10:17.600 --> 01:10:23.039
<v Speaker 2>it was chilled down to four degrees kelvin, which is

1135
01:10:23.439 --> 01:10:28.760
<v Speaker 2>quite cold. And it was our understanding and the training

1136
01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:30.880
<v Speaker 2>that we got for all the different facilities and the

1137
01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:37.159
<v Speaker 2>dangers as first responders was that any leak on the

1138
01:10:37.279 --> 01:10:42.960
<v Speaker 2>cryosystem is catastrophic. That it would go from basically contained

1139
01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:46.720
<v Speaker 2>and functioning to a leak that would then go to

1140
01:10:47.359 --> 01:10:53.680
<v Speaker 2>a catastrophic like a Blevy situation because the expansion rate

1141
01:10:54.119 --> 01:10:59.319
<v Speaker 2>of helium at that temperature to the atmospheres about four

1142
01:10:59.399 --> 01:11:05.079
<v Speaker 2>hundred fifty to one, so it would have been a

1143
01:11:05.159 --> 01:11:12.399
<v Speaker 2>discharge of nominal proportions. And on this particular event, we

1144
01:11:12.399 --> 01:11:18.840
<v Speaker 2>were alarming that this building was on fire, so myself

1145
01:11:18.880 --> 01:11:22.760
<v Speaker 2>and my colleague went to our lockers in due form

1146
01:11:22.800 --> 01:11:26.800
<v Speaker 2>and because we would have to exit the building in

1147
01:11:27.159 --> 01:11:30.479
<v Speaker 2>winter conditions at the south pole. When we had this

1148
01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:34.479
<v Speaker 2>type of circumstance, we would start dressing the other person

1149
01:11:35.079 --> 01:11:37.199
<v Speaker 2>so that all of their gear was in the right

1150
01:11:37.239 --> 01:11:39.960
<v Speaker 2>spots for the temperature and not breaking hoses and stuff.

1151
01:11:40.399 --> 01:11:43.960
<v Speaker 2>We were going full SCBA, like full bunker gear fire

1152
01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:49.800
<v Speaker 2>response for these types of events, so we had to

1153
01:11:49.800 --> 01:11:52.319
<v Speaker 2>do things in a way that kept the gear from breaking,

1154
01:11:53.039 --> 01:11:55.479
<v Speaker 2>and it was stuff that we learned from trial and error,

1155
01:11:55.560 --> 01:11:57.560
<v Speaker 2>so we would always just make sure we would set

1156
01:11:57.640 --> 01:12:01.199
<v Speaker 2>the other person up correctly and the process of gearing

1157
01:12:01.279 --> 01:12:03.920
<v Speaker 2>each other up. We have our LMR radios which are

1158
01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:05.960
<v Speaker 2>just you know, like you've seen the police and fire

1159
01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:09.199
<v Speaker 2>department use with the lapel mics, and we were listening

1160
01:12:09.319 --> 01:12:15.000
<v Speaker 2>to Team one, who is our first responders when an

1161
01:12:15.039 --> 01:12:18.439
<v Speaker 2>alarm or an event occurs, and what they basically do

1162
01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:23.960
<v Speaker 2>is when myself and my team starts running to the

1163
01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:27.560
<v Speaker 2>lockers to gear up with the bunker gear and SCBAs

1164
01:12:28.319 --> 01:12:31.439
<v Speaker 2>this team. Team one just goes straight to the site

1165
01:12:31.479 --> 01:12:36.000
<v Speaker 2>of the alarm to gather intel and confirm whether or

1166
01:12:36.079 --> 01:12:41.000
<v Speaker 2>not the alarm is legitimate. So in this circumstance, we

1167
01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:45.359
<v Speaker 2>were getting geared up listening to the radio chatter for

1168
01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:49.479
<v Speaker 2>Team one arriving unseen and then letting us know that

1169
01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:54.319
<v Speaker 2>it was in fact a fully employed fire coming out

1170
01:12:54.359 --> 01:12:57.640
<v Speaker 2>of the balloon Inflation facility and that they were waving

1171
01:12:57.680 --> 01:13:03.439
<v Speaker 2>off because they did their job. So then my collead

1172
01:13:03.560 --> 01:13:08.079
<v Speaker 2>and I were to respond to what was now called

1173
01:13:08.119 --> 01:13:13.479
<v Speaker 2>in as a confirmed active fire at the Balloon Inflation Facility.

1174
01:13:13.880 --> 01:13:16.560
<v Speaker 2>And there we were geared up with you know, fire

1175
01:13:16.640 --> 01:13:20.319
<v Speaker 2>extinguishers over our shoulders because we didn't have fire trucks.

1176
01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:23.960
<v Speaker 2>We were the fire trucks and we had our extinguishers,

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01:13:23.960 --> 01:13:27.920
<v Speaker 2>and we were walking towards that building and it was

1178
01:13:28.479 --> 01:13:31.399
<v Speaker 2>extremely dark. It was moonlit. It was backlit that night,

1179
01:13:31.920 --> 01:13:37.640
<v Speaker 2>and I remember I was terrified because I just I

1180
01:13:37.800 --> 01:13:43.159
<v Speaker 2>kept thinking that I'm I'm about to see this building

1181
01:13:43.399 --> 01:13:46.520
<v Speaker 2>just explode. I'm going to watch it go round for

1182
01:13:46.760 --> 01:13:49.359
<v Speaker 2>like a fraction of a second. I'm going to get

1183
01:13:49.399 --> 01:13:52.680
<v Speaker 2>to see this building swell out and then that wall

1184
01:13:52.840 --> 01:13:54.760
<v Speaker 2>is just going to come across the ice and hit

1185
01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:57.319
<v Speaker 2>me in the face at mock twelve. And that's I

1186
01:13:57.479 --> 01:14:00.680
<v Speaker 2>just I thought that we were walking to our death.

1187
01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:04.039
<v Speaker 2>The split second they confirmed it on the radio, She

1188
01:14:04.159 --> 01:14:07.039
<v Speaker 2>and I we just stopped communicating. We just went through

1189
01:14:07.079 --> 01:14:10.680
<v Speaker 2>the motions. Everything just went nonverbal. We grabbed our stuff,

1190
01:14:10.800 --> 01:14:13.720
<v Speaker 2>we walked in the direction that we were obliged to walk,

1191
01:14:14.439 --> 01:14:18.000
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, I just I didn't think we were gonna

1192
01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:22.399
<v Speaker 2>make it. But long story short, we got to the facility.

1193
01:14:22.479 --> 01:14:27.000
<v Speaker 2>There was a hot air furnace that had an issue

1194
01:14:27.720 --> 01:14:32.560
<v Speaker 2>and there's smoke pouring out of that, and we extinguished

1195
01:14:32.560 --> 01:14:36.680
<v Speaker 2>that situation. Everything was hunky dory, and it was just

1196
01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:40.000
<v Speaker 2>terrifying for the time being.

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01:14:40.800 --> 01:14:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and for people that don't respect how scary that is.

1198
01:14:44.840 --> 01:14:48.880
<v Speaker 1>There's been several videos of like chemical plant explosions that

1199
01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:51.039
<v Speaker 1>have been on the internet over the last ten years,

1200
01:14:51.319 --> 01:14:54.680
<v Speaker 1>and they are some of the biggest explosions I've ever seen,

1201
01:14:54.920 --> 01:14:59.079
<v Speaker 1>Like people see them from a distance. One I remember specifically,

1202
01:14:59.119 --> 01:15:01.039
<v Speaker 1>a guy is in texts with his daughter in the

1203
01:15:01.079 --> 01:15:04.720
<v Speaker 1>car and they see this plant exploding like in the distance,

1204
01:15:04.760 --> 01:15:07.960
<v Speaker 1>and they don't realize how huge explosion's gonna be and

1205
01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:11.039
<v Speaker 1>it ends up blowing over the whole car, potentially blowing

1206
01:15:11.039 --> 01:15:14.880
<v Speaker 1>out their ear drums. And like that's how just like

1207
01:15:14.960 --> 01:15:17.119
<v Speaker 1>in one moment you see this tiny explosion. Next thing,

1208
01:15:17.199 --> 01:15:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, the whole screen is just yellow and orange

1209
01:15:20.760 --> 01:15:23.279
<v Speaker 1>and red. And that's why you can imagine from Eric's

1210
01:15:23.279 --> 01:15:25.880
<v Speaker 1>perspective walking towards that going, yeah, there's a fire and

1211
01:15:25.880 --> 01:15:31.319
<v Speaker 1>it's next to half a million pounds of helium four,

1212
01:15:31.600 --> 01:15:33.560
<v Speaker 1>which I want to ask about here in a second,

1213
01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:35.680
<v Speaker 1>how you could think that. I mean, if if that

1214
01:15:35.720 --> 01:15:38.479
<v Speaker 1>blows up, it's gonna happen, it's gonna be over instantaneously.

1215
01:15:38.520 --> 01:15:40.159
<v Speaker 1>All like you said, all you're gonna see is something

1216
01:15:40.159 --> 01:15:43.680
<v Speaker 1>coming at you. And then that's it extremely scary. So

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01:15:44.399 --> 01:15:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I think you're you're definitely brave to do that job

1218
01:15:46.840 --> 01:15:49.720
<v Speaker 1>out there for sure. Now, why do you think that

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01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:52.159
<v Speaker 1>they had I think you said in our pre call

1220
01:15:52.199 --> 01:15:56.000
<v Speaker 1>there was like four hundred and fifty thousand pounds of

1221
01:15:56.560 --> 01:16:01.479
<v Speaker 1>helium four out there. That seems pretty interesting that they've.

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01:16:01.239 --> 01:16:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Got all that. It was gallons, four hundred gallon, five

1223
01:16:07.039 --> 01:16:08.720
<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand gallons of it.

1224
01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:11.159
<v Speaker 1>I should probably use my unise of measurement correctly for

1225
01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:13.279
<v Speaker 1>liquids or gas.

1226
01:16:13.319 --> 01:16:18.920
<v Speaker 2>So the the known usage uses of it were for

1227
01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:23.960
<v Speaker 2>the South Pole telescope that on the focal plane, which

1228
01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:29.520
<v Speaker 2>is the sensor array for that device to look into

1229
01:16:29.520 --> 01:16:34.560
<v Speaker 2>the cosmos. It's not optical like glass. It's a sensor

1230
01:16:34.600 --> 01:16:39.399
<v Speaker 2>setup that they call the focal plane, and the chilled

1231
01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:44.039
<v Speaker 2>helium goes from storage temperature of four degrees kelvin. They

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01:16:44.079 --> 01:16:47.079
<v Speaker 2>then reduce it down lower to a quarter of a

1233
01:16:47.159 --> 01:16:52.199
<v Speaker 2>degree above kelvin, and then that's the temperature on the

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01:16:52.239 --> 01:16:55.680
<v Speaker 2>focal plane so that they can then look outwardly into

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01:16:55.880 --> 01:17:01.840
<v Speaker 2>the cosmos and have an, you know, unfettered view of

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01:17:01.880 --> 01:17:02.680
<v Speaker 2>what's going on.

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01:17:04.960 --> 01:17:09.319
<v Speaker 1>So this is getting me suspicious, Eric, because liquid helium

1238
01:17:09.399 --> 01:17:13.680
<v Speaker 1>is one of the rare elements that produces Bose Einstein

1239
01:17:13.720 --> 01:17:18.319
<v Speaker 1>condensate at absolute zero temperatures. It's a superfluid, so it

1240
01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:23.479
<v Speaker 1>becomes this liquid where it creates it gets bosonic properties.

1241
01:17:24.159 --> 01:17:25.920
<v Speaker 1>And for the people that are out there that don't know,

1242
01:17:26.039 --> 01:17:28.840
<v Speaker 1>the difference between a fermion and a boson is whether

1243
01:17:28.960 --> 01:17:31.000
<v Speaker 1>or not it can compac down to a single point.

1244
01:17:31.119 --> 01:17:34.520
<v Speaker 1>So a fermion would be anything like my phone. The

1245
01:17:34.560 --> 01:17:36.680
<v Speaker 1>structure of the atoms my phone that means that it

1246
01:17:36.760 --> 01:17:38.560
<v Speaker 1>all is in separate spots, has this mass that I

1247
01:17:38.600 --> 01:17:41.760
<v Speaker 1>hold on to. But when you get to bosonic situations,

1248
01:17:41.760 --> 01:17:43.880
<v Speaker 1>that's like a laser beam where you can focus the

1249
01:17:43.880 --> 01:17:47.039
<v Speaker 1>photons down to a single point. And this is where

1250
01:17:47.079 --> 01:17:49.720
<v Speaker 1>the idea of a Bose Einstein contentstate comes into play.

1251
01:17:49.800 --> 01:17:53.079
<v Speaker 1>Now you can see here either or liquefied helium three.

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01:17:53.159 --> 01:17:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm saying the wrong one here. They said they

1253
01:17:55.800 --> 01:17:59.239
<v Speaker 1>found they formed two atom cooper pairs, which are bosonic

1254
01:17:59.319 --> 01:18:03.359
<v Speaker 1>and condensed contents condensed into a superfluid. These cooper pairs

1255
01:18:03.399 --> 01:18:08.239
<v Speaker 1>are substantially larger than inter atomic separation. This is also

1256
01:18:08.680 --> 01:18:12.159
<v Speaker 1>the explanation that we are given on superconductivity, is that

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<v Speaker 1>electrons form cooper pairs. And then when you read the

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01:18:15.880 --> 01:18:18.880
<v Speaker 1>uses for liquid helium, it says it's commercially used for

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01:18:18.960 --> 01:18:23.800
<v Speaker 1>super conducting magnets. Which the thing that I found for

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01:18:23.960 --> 01:18:26.720
<v Speaker 1>my research is there's two things that are extremely important

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01:18:26.760 --> 01:18:32.720
<v Speaker 1>for magical technology, and number one is superconductivity. Superconductivity the

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01:18:32.760 --> 01:18:36.439
<v Speaker 1>idea of the electrons flowing freely and producing a coherent

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01:18:36.600 --> 01:18:40.600
<v Speaker 1>wave is where we're getting some of these macroscopic quantum effects.

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01:18:40.720 --> 01:18:43.119
<v Speaker 1>This is you know when I say macroscopic quantum. Just

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01:18:43.119 --> 01:18:45.960
<v Speaker 1>imagine magic happening. And then the other thing is we

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01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:52.000
<v Speaker 1>need very small microchips and processors and transistors. And you

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01:18:52.000 --> 01:18:55.399
<v Speaker 1>know this is where if you dig into semiconductor companies,

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01:18:55.479 --> 01:18:57.560
<v Speaker 1>there's not a lot of them, and a lot of

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01:18:57.600 --> 01:19:00.399
<v Speaker 1>them are in Taiwan and their stock val you have

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01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:03.840
<v Speaker 1>just been going straight up into the air. So when

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01:19:03.880 --> 01:19:06.960
<v Speaker 1>you tell me that there's four hundred and fifty thousand

1272
01:19:07.079 --> 01:19:11.479
<v Speaker 1>gallons of rare helium three that's been super cool to

1273
01:19:11.720 --> 01:19:17.119
<v Speaker 1>its Bose Einstein condensate levels, definitely has got me scratching

1274
01:19:17.159 --> 01:19:19.000
<v Speaker 1>my head a little bit. If anyone out there is

1275
01:19:19.039 --> 01:19:21.119
<v Speaker 1>listening or watching wants to leave a comment in the

1276
01:19:21.199 --> 01:19:23.399
<v Speaker 1>chat on YouTube about what they think this might be

1277
01:19:23.479 --> 01:19:27.079
<v Speaker 1>getting used for if there is some connection to super

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01:19:27.079 --> 01:19:31.359
<v Speaker 1>conductivity related to this telescope to have, would love to

1279
01:19:31.399 --> 01:19:38.279
<v Speaker 1>hear your guys thoughts. Awesome, So any other you know,

1280
01:19:38.359 --> 01:19:40.760
<v Speaker 1>either hardware that might be out there that we're not

1281
01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:44.199
<v Speaker 1>familiar with, or is there any other stories relevant to

1282
01:19:44.199 --> 01:19:47.520
<v Speaker 1>the Antarctica kind of time that you spent out there

1283
01:19:47.520 --> 01:19:49.319
<v Speaker 1>that you think are worthy to know and if not,

1284
01:19:50.039 --> 01:19:55.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, what would you want people to know you

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01:19:55.199 --> 01:19:56.479
<v Speaker 1>know about your experience.

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01:19:58.960 --> 01:20:01.479
<v Speaker 2>I think I think that my experience is similar to

1287
01:20:01.520 --> 01:20:05.159
<v Speaker 2>everyone else, is I'm just connecting the dots faster. I

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01:20:05.199 --> 01:20:11.760
<v Speaker 2>think we all are suffering like the walking wounded in

1289
01:20:11.880 --> 01:20:15.119
<v Speaker 2>this modern day battlefield, and I just happened to be

1290
01:20:16.399 --> 01:20:19.079
<v Speaker 2>with the team with a crew that became privy to

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01:20:19.439 --> 01:20:22.840
<v Speaker 2>this situation first and foremost, and that we're just trying

1292
01:20:22.880 --> 01:20:27.279
<v Speaker 2>to let everybody else know because they're they're in the

1293
01:20:27.319 --> 01:20:29.920
<v Speaker 2>same throes of war and I don't want to. I

1294
01:20:29.920 --> 01:20:32.880
<v Speaker 2>don't like seeing anybody get sucker punched. And right now,

1295
01:20:32.920 --> 01:20:36.079
<v Speaker 2>everybody's getting sucker punched, and it's just not right because

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01:20:36.119 --> 01:20:40.960
<v Speaker 2>people aren't aware of the enemies that they have around them.

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01:20:41.920 --> 01:20:45.439
<v Speaker 1>And so then to change gears, How did you start

1298
01:20:45.439 --> 01:20:47.479
<v Speaker 1>to be able to connect those dots? When was the

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01:20:47.479 --> 01:20:51.359
<v Speaker 1>point for you where you learned about the capabilities of

1300
01:20:51.359 --> 01:20:54.760
<v Speaker 1>this type of technology and from me digging into it,

1301
01:20:54.960 --> 01:20:58.399
<v Speaker 1>especially directed energy weapons off people think that that's, you know, wow,

1302
01:20:58.439 --> 01:21:00.720
<v Speaker 1>that's some new technologies out there, But it looks like

1303
01:21:00.760 --> 01:21:02.600
<v Speaker 1>it's been out there since at least the eighties, so

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01:21:02.840 --> 01:21:03.680
<v Speaker 1>that might be the old.

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01:21:04.479 --> 01:21:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I guess for me, officially, it would have started with

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01:21:06.960 --> 01:21:11.920
<v Speaker 2>my time, my short exposure to the submarine service back

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01:21:11.920 --> 01:21:17.880
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety four. And you know, these are the

1308
01:21:18.359 --> 01:21:21.000
<v Speaker 2>facts of the matter. Right. When I was in basic

1309
01:21:21.079 --> 01:21:26.680
<v Speaker 2>enlisted submarine school, we watched the movie The Hunt for

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01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Red October because it was a teaching mechanism. We were

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01:21:35.159 --> 01:21:40.520
<v Speaker 2>educated that Tom Clancy's not an author. The Hunt for

1312
01:21:40.640 --> 01:21:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Red October is not a fictional tell you can add,

1313
01:21:45.479 --> 01:21:48.760
<v Speaker 2>there's so many complexities that come from this truth. Right,

1314
01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:55.720
<v Speaker 2>But long story short, in the movie The Hunt for

1315
01:21:55.840 --> 01:22:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Red October, which is a documentary how we got the

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01:22:00.560 --> 01:22:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Sea Wolf class submarines, but there's something mentioned in that movie,

1317
01:22:05.560 --> 01:22:11.439
<v Speaker 2>and that is known as that magneto hydrodynamic drive. That's

1318
01:22:11.479 --> 01:22:13.600
<v Speaker 2>the most important part of that movie that they just

1319
01:22:14.600 --> 01:22:20.680
<v Speaker 2>gloss right over. But it's the technology that allows the

1320
01:22:20.720 --> 01:22:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Red October to provide that caterpillar drive, that silent drive,

1321
01:22:26.720 --> 01:22:32.800
<v Speaker 2>the interaction of massive amounts of power to the medium

1322
01:22:32.840 --> 01:22:40.000
<v Speaker 2>of water to provide thrust and flow. Because so is

1323
01:22:40.159 --> 01:22:46.439
<v Speaker 2>that right, there is the door to walk through when

1324
01:22:46.439 --> 01:22:52.319
<v Speaker 2>it gets into the concept of propulsion systems that people

1325
01:22:52.359 --> 01:22:56.560
<v Speaker 2>would consider off world or UFO or UAP, because the

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01:22:56.600 --> 01:23:02.199
<v Speaker 2>only difference for a magneto hydro dynamic drive on a

1327
01:23:02.479 --> 01:23:07.720
<v Speaker 2>submarine the medium of the water going through it is

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01:23:08.239 --> 01:23:12.159
<v Speaker 2>no different from the scientific standpoint than the medium of

1329
01:23:12.239 --> 01:23:16.119
<v Speaker 2>the atmosphere, which is just a la a less dense

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01:23:16.319 --> 01:23:20.000
<v Speaker 2>version of the ocean. So it would just simply require

1331
01:23:20.159 --> 01:23:24.439
<v Speaker 2>more power. And it turns out that more power isn't

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01:23:24.520 --> 01:23:29.960
<v Speaker 2>actually a problem, like our military industrial complex would want

1333
01:23:30.079 --> 01:23:34.279
<v Speaker 2>us to believe that having power at infinite amounts is

1334
01:23:34.319 --> 01:23:41.239
<v Speaker 2>a challenge, when you overcome that obstacle and you have

1335
01:23:41.720 --> 01:23:46.520
<v Speaker 2>copious amounts of power available for any harmonious system that

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01:23:46.560 --> 01:23:50.000
<v Speaker 2>you want to build, I mean literally, the sky is

1337
01:23:50.039 --> 01:23:52.159
<v Speaker 2>the limit is a funny way of putting it, because

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01:23:52.199 --> 01:23:54.439
<v Speaker 2>it certainly wouldn't be a limit at that point.

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01:23:56.359 --> 01:23:59.479
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's a really good insight because I had never

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01:23:59.600 --> 01:24:03.680
<v Speaker 1>really considered the idea that submarines might use this technology.

1341
01:24:03.680 --> 01:24:06.479
<v Speaker 1>But I did watch a couple months ago a YouTube

1342
01:24:06.520 --> 01:24:10.000
<v Speaker 1>video where someone built one of these using a three

1343
01:24:10.079 --> 01:24:13.239
<v Speaker 1>D printer, and they made it more and more efficient.

1344
01:24:13.279 --> 01:24:15.920
<v Speaker 1>There was no moving parts, it was just magnets and

1345
01:24:16.119 --> 01:24:20.720
<v Speaker 1>electrical current and it created a propulsion effect and it

1346
01:24:20.760 --> 01:24:23.159
<v Speaker 1>was actually pretty powerful and it looked actually very similar

1347
01:24:23.199 --> 01:24:25.880
<v Speaker 1>to this picture here on the right, and it.

1348
01:24:25.760 --> 01:24:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Looks like a Hubbard battery design.

1349
01:24:30.199 --> 01:24:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and My guess is that given if some guy

1350
01:24:32.880 --> 01:24:35.399
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube was able to put one together that you know,

1351
01:24:35.479 --> 01:24:37.720
<v Speaker 1>produced like you know, you could see the thing moving

1352
01:24:37.800 --> 01:24:41.439
<v Speaker 1>like pretty fast, that the Navy and the government with

1353
01:24:41.520 --> 01:24:46.760
<v Speaker 1>their defense contractors probably can make some pretty incredible stuff

1354
01:24:46.800 --> 01:24:49.479
<v Speaker 1>with this. So this was your first for it, okay,

1355
01:24:49.880 --> 01:24:52.359
<v Speaker 1>in the hunt for Red October, and you experienced that.

1356
01:24:52.439 --> 01:24:55.319
<v Speaker 1>So you, if I'm gathering correctly, you saw some crazy

1357
01:24:55.319 --> 01:24:58.920
<v Speaker 1>stuff with your time, you know, working on submarines, and

1358
01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:01.119
<v Speaker 1>that led you to, you know, ask the question, what

1359
01:25:01.199 --> 01:25:02.239
<v Speaker 1>are we really capable of?

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01:25:03.399 --> 01:25:09.279
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely yep. I became aware in nineteen ninety four that

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01:25:10.159 --> 01:25:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles class submarine was pretty much the greatest testament

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01:25:16.119 --> 01:25:20.720
<v Speaker 2>to the technological advancement of man that almost no man

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01:25:20.800 --> 01:25:25.000
<v Speaker 2>will ever get to see. That there was stuff going

1364
01:25:25.079 --> 01:25:28.520
<v Speaker 2>on that people it was just beyond their understanding. And

1365
01:25:28.920 --> 01:25:30.960
<v Speaker 2>we know this stuff. We know, this is how the

1366
01:25:30.960 --> 01:25:34.880
<v Speaker 2>government works, we know this is how our money gets invested.

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01:25:35.000 --> 01:25:38.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm just letting folks know that, Yeah, I happened to

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01:25:38.199 --> 01:25:40.359
<v Speaker 2>get my foot in the door in the submarine service

1369
01:25:40.399 --> 01:25:45.680
<v Speaker 2>and witness firsthand that Yes, it's not how far ahead

1370
01:25:45.720 --> 01:25:46.479
<v Speaker 2>of the curve they.

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01:25:46.399 --> 01:25:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Are that's wild. And I have heard some rumors that

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01:25:51.439 --> 01:25:54.359
<v Speaker 1>some submarines might even use some types of over unity

1373
01:25:54.399 --> 01:25:57.960
<v Speaker 1>devices because the benefit there is you're not there's no

1374
01:25:58.039 --> 01:26:02.039
<v Speaker 1>like electromagnetic signals coming out from your your submarine. The

1375
01:26:02.079 --> 01:26:04.399
<v Speaker 1>ideas you want to be quiet in your submarine, right,

1376
01:26:04.399 --> 01:26:05.720
<v Speaker 1>you don't want anyone to be able to know.

1377
01:26:06.039 --> 01:26:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Quiet by definition is just not putting out observable frequencies

1378
01:26:10.720 --> 01:26:14.239
<v Speaker 2>by any definition. So if you can switch your frequency

1379
01:26:14.680 --> 01:26:17.640
<v Speaker 2>to something that's not being observed, well there's a win.

1380
01:26:18.479 --> 01:26:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, guys, I hope you were listening to this.

1381
01:26:20.880 --> 01:26:24.920
<v Speaker 1>We might be giving away military secrets here, but I

1382
01:26:24.920 --> 01:26:27.199
<v Speaker 1>think our adversaries already know about it, so hopefully we're

1383
01:26:27.199 --> 01:26:28.479
<v Speaker 1>just educating the public there.

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01:26:30.159 --> 01:26:33.520
<v Speaker 2>Everything I do is for we, the people of this planet,

1385
01:26:33.920 --> 01:26:40.760
<v Speaker 2>because unfortunately, lunatics by every definition, have decided to represent

1386
01:26:40.960 --> 01:26:44.560
<v Speaker 2>we the people of this planet, as if we're all

1387
01:26:44.640 --> 01:26:49.479
<v Speaker 2>against each other, which is obviously not the case. We

1388
01:26:49.560 --> 01:26:53.560
<v Speaker 2>the common people on this planet, have everything in common

1389
01:26:54.720 --> 01:26:59.640
<v Speaker 2>and we deserve better than what the lunatics that pretend

1390
01:26:59.800 --> 01:27:05.119
<v Speaker 2>to represent our best interest have been providing with the

1391
01:27:05.199 --> 01:27:09.359
<v Speaker 2>money that we've invested towards them, and that's something that

1392
01:27:09.439 --> 01:27:12.159
<v Speaker 2>I like, we have not failed them.

1393
01:27:12.359 --> 01:27:15.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, That's something my buddy Jake Chancelly has said a lot.

1394
01:27:15.479 --> 01:27:18.640
<v Speaker 1>I've run across him. He's known as the Shaman of

1395
01:27:18.680 --> 01:27:21.199
<v Speaker 1>January sixth, but turns out he's a really smart dude.

1396
01:27:21.199 --> 01:27:23.159
<v Speaker 1>And more of the big questions. I asked him as well,

1397
01:27:23.279 --> 01:27:25.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, is it safe to get this technology out

1398
01:27:25.359 --> 01:27:29.600
<v Speaker 1>to the public. I quarreled with it internally myself. He

1399
01:27:29.640 --> 01:27:31.159
<v Speaker 1>came back and said, well, the worst people on the

1400
01:27:31.159 --> 01:27:34.159
<v Speaker 1>planet already have it, so how can it get any

1401
01:27:34.199 --> 01:27:34.720
<v Speaker 1>worse than that?

1402
01:27:34.920 --> 01:27:36.560
<v Speaker 2>Might as well let some of the good people have

1403
01:27:36.640 --> 01:27:40.640
<v Speaker 2>some access. Yeah, right, Yeah, I follow that logic one

1404
01:27:40.640 --> 01:27:44.880
<v Speaker 2>thousand percent. I believe that we the people are way

1405
01:27:44.920 --> 01:27:49.840
<v Speaker 2>more resilient, way more adaptable to the truth than those

1406
01:27:49.920 --> 01:27:54.159
<v Speaker 2>that would withhold it wants us to believe. And these

1407
01:27:54.399 --> 01:27:57.600
<v Speaker 2>statements to the opposite that you know, oh, people would

1408
01:27:57.600 --> 01:28:01.079
<v Speaker 2>freak out, people couldn't hit. That's part of the paid

1409
01:28:01.079 --> 01:28:04.680
<v Speaker 2>propaganda to get people to believe that we the people

1410
01:28:04.760 --> 01:28:09.479
<v Speaker 2>can't handle any reality. Of course, we can handle any reality.

1411
01:28:09.600 --> 01:28:13.079
<v Speaker 2>It's reality where real people were part of it. We'll

1412
01:28:13.119 --> 01:28:16.279
<v Speaker 2>always be able to deal with the punches for life.

1413
01:28:17.000 --> 01:28:20.479
<v Speaker 2>Let them rip. Let's just let's see what's really going

1414
01:28:20.520 --> 01:28:25.960
<v Speaker 2>on and watch how rapidly the people can mitigate any

1415
01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:27.600
<v Speaker 2>problem that they become aware of.

1416
01:28:29.640 --> 01:28:31.560
<v Speaker 1>So how do you think do you have any thoughts

1417
01:28:31.600 --> 01:28:34.920
<v Speaker 1>on how to get this information out there to the people?

1418
01:28:35.119 --> 01:28:37.439
<v Speaker 1>Like the WI Files just did a big episode about

1419
01:28:37.439 --> 01:28:42.720
<v Speaker 1>free energy and they said, well, just make the schematics

1420
01:28:42.720 --> 01:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>publicly available, you know, don't patent it. I'm not sure

1421
01:28:46.680 --> 01:28:49.479
<v Speaker 1>I necessarily agree, but I'm not sure there's any easy answers.

1422
01:28:49.479 --> 01:28:50.880
<v Speaker 1>But what is your thought.

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01:28:51.520 --> 01:28:55.399
<v Speaker 2>I think that I kind of do lean in the

1424
01:28:55.439 --> 01:28:59.720
<v Speaker 2>direction of that suggestion, because it does seem that open

1425
01:28:59.760 --> 01:29:02.680
<v Speaker 2>so stuff would be the faster avenue to the freedom

1426
01:29:02.680 --> 01:29:06.439
<v Speaker 2>of information and the use of the people. With that

1427
01:29:06.520 --> 01:29:09.199
<v Speaker 2>being said, the question in general, like what do I

1428
01:29:09.359 --> 01:29:14.560
<v Speaker 2>feeble to do about this stuff is just continue to

1429
01:29:14.680 --> 01:29:17.359
<v Speaker 2>fight the fight. I have been trying to get the

1430
01:29:17.399 --> 01:29:20.439
<v Speaker 2>truth out for a few years now, and what I'm

1431
01:29:20.520 --> 01:29:26.319
<v Speaker 2>learning again, and this is my direct first hand experience

1432
01:29:27.119 --> 01:29:30.199
<v Speaker 2>that I need to warn all of the listeners about

1433
01:29:30.239 --> 01:29:38.439
<v Speaker 2>there the vast majority of these content creators are shills, charlatans,

1434
01:29:38.600 --> 01:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>on men, profiteers, federal agents, you name it. What they

1435
01:29:45.800 --> 01:29:49.560
<v Speaker 2>don't care about is the truth. What they do care

1436
01:29:49.640 --> 01:29:55.239
<v Speaker 2>about is who likes them and making sure that they

1437
01:29:56.319 --> 01:30:01.079
<v Speaker 2>speak stuff that's pleasantries because they don't want to offend

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01:30:01.119 --> 01:30:04.439
<v Speaker 2>any part of their demograph.

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01:30:04.479 --> 01:30:06.159
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that was really well put. I might have to

1440
01:30:06.159 --> 01:30:10.199
<v Speaker 1>clip that later because that's exactly how I view a

1441
01:30:10.239 --> 01:30:13.039
<v Speaker 1>lot of the UFO community, a lot of podcasters and

1442
01:30:13.159 --> 01:30:15.640
<v Speaker 1>reaction to birds. There are some real ones that are

1443
01:30:15.640 --> 01:30:19.520
<v Speaker 1>out there, and I appreciate them a lot. Far between, yeah,

1444
01:30:19.560 --> 01:30:21.159
<v Speaker 1>it's few and far between. It's a lot of people.

1445
01:30:21.239 --> 01:30:23.359
<v Speaker 1>As the problem is, once you put the profit motive

1446
01:30:23.680 --> 01:30:26.760
<v Speaker 1>in there, and I call it the Reddit syndrome as well,

1447
01:30:26.800 --> 01:30:29.720
<v Speaker 1>where it becomes less about what you're saying and whether

1448
01:30:29.800 --> 01:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>or not what you're saying is the truth, and more

1449
01:30:31.880 --> 01:30:36.479
<v Speaker 1>about how what you say makes people feel. And that's yeah,

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01:30:36.520 --> 01:30:39.119
<v Speaker 1>it's like a post truth world at that point. It's, Oh,

1451
01:30:39.279 --> 01:30:39.960
<v Speaker 1>you're telling.

1452
01:30:39.720 --> 01:30:42.359
<v Speaker 2>Me everything's all love and light and if you don't

1453
01:30:42.439 --> 01:30:46.359
<v Speaker 2>raise your frequency high enough, you're not going to impact

1454
01:30:46.439 --> 01:30:51.680
<v Speaker 2>anybody positively because you're so big and mean. It's just

1455
01:30:51.800 --> 01:30:55.439
<v Speaker 2>it's it's ridiculousness at this point. And to me, these

1456
01:30:55.479 --> 01:30:58.600
<v Speaker 2>are just other programs that have been inculcated in our

1457
01:30:58.800 --> 01:31:03.840
<v Speaker 2>society to you know, slow the role of the energies

1458
01:31:03.880 --> 01:31:05.680
<v Speaker 2>of people that are trying to do the right thing.

1459
01:31:07.840 --> 01:31:11.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so tell me how do you Obviously you're somebody

1460
01:31:11.279 --> 01:31:13.119
<v Speaker 1>who I think is a proponent of Tesla and his

1461
01:31:13.239 --> 01:31:15.680
<v Speaker 1>theories out there. I think that anyone who digs into

1462
01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>this will very quickly find Tesla and realize this goes

1463
01:31:18.600 --> 01:31:20.279
<v Speaker 1>back to him, and that he probably is one of

1464
01:31:20.279 --> 01:31:23.520
<v Speaker 1>the smartest people out there. What was your first experience

1465
01:31:23.520 --> 01:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>with finding out about Tesla.

1466
01:31:26.199 --> 01:31:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh, geez, Being from Long Island, Tesla to me is

1467
01:31:31.960 --> 01:31:35.640
<v Speaker 2>a big deal. His Wardencliffe facility was right there on

1468
01:31:35.680 --> 01:31:39.720
<v Speaker 2>the north shore of Long Island, and a lot of

1469
01:31:39.760 --> 01:31:42.119
<v Speaker 2>students of Tesla will tell you that he said that,

1470
01:31:42.199 --> 01:31:46.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, there are certain points on this planet that

1471
01:31:46.159 --> 01:31:50.640
<v Speaker 2>are better for the study of energy than others. Tesla

1472
01:31:50.760 --> 01:31:54.359
<v Speaker 2>identified the area on Long Island that he called Wardencliffe,

1473
01:31:54.920 --> 01:31:58.079
<v Speaker 2>and apparently nobody's ever disagreed with him on this location

1474
01:31:58.319 --> 01:32:01.079
<v Speaker 2>because you have the shore New Clear Power Plant, which

1475
01:32:01.159 --> 01:32:05.039
<v Speaker 2>is a stone's throwaway, and you have Brookhaven National Labs,

1476
01:32:05.079 --> 01:32:09.359
<v Speaker 2>also stones throwaway. So apparently the study of energy on

1477
01:32:09.439 --> 01:32:12.039
<v Speaker 2>the east end of Long Island, right where Tesla said

1478
01:32:12.159 --> 01:32:15.079
<v Speaker 2>was a good spot to study it. There's just ongoing

1479
01:32:15.199 --> 01:32:20.600
<v Speaker 2>studies by different factions in different names. So I think

1480
01:32:20.640 --> 01:32:22.720
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot to be said about where he was

1481
01:32:22.760 --> 01:32:27.840
<v Speaker 2>coming from and his understanding of I would say the

1482
01:32:27.960 --> 01:32:32.800
<v Speaker 2>harmony of nature around us versus what a lot of

1483
01:32:32.840 --> 01:32:39.960
<v Speaker 2>people like to call science, because science oftentimes has a

1484
01:32:40.000 --> 01:32:48.600
<v Speaker 2>lot to do with our limited observations. Whereas folks like

1485
01:32:48.720 --> 01:32:56.279
<v Speaker 2>Tesla were working in realms which afforded and understanding that

1486
01:32:56.319 --> 01:33:02.560
<v Speaker 2>there were certain mystery aspects we're being utilized in the equation.

1487
01:33:03.279 --> 01:33:13.479
<v Speaker 2>And although you could certainly lack calculations, so to say,

1488
01:33:13.880 --> 01:33:18.199
<v Speaker 2>to these mystery sciences or understandings, there were still certain

1489
01:33:18.239 --> 01:33:27.199
<v Speaker 2>observations that you couldn't deny. So contemporary science wants really

1490
01:33:27.439 --> 01:33:37.239
<v Speaker 2>hard to answer everything. When real scientists function from a

1491
01:33:37.319 --> 01:33:42.479
<v Speaker 2>direction knowing that you have to be able to operate

1492
01:33:42.920 --> 01:33:47.960
<v Speaker 2>with certain voids of information that will always be there.

1493
01:33:48.399 --> 01:33:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Those are the mysteries we don't get to answer certain questions.

1494
01:33:53.920 --> 01:33:57.840
<v Speaker 2>But yet that's the reality that we function in and

1495
01:33:57.920 --> 01:33:58.880
<v Speaker 2>it's observable.

1496
01:34:00.319 --> 01:34:02.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's what science is. I think a lot

1497
01:34:02.079 --> 01:34:06.319
<v Speaker 1>of people forget that science is the study of observable reality.

1498
01:34:06.600 --> 01:34:08.319
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people in today's day and age think

1499
01:34:08.359 --> 01:34:12.560
<v Speaker 1>science is whatever their favorite science influencer YouTuber tells them.

1500
01:34:12.600 --> 01:34:15.199
<v Speaker 1>Which is not how science works. The other way around,

1501
01:34:15.359 --> 01:34:16.880
<v Speaker 1>science is the scientific method.

1502
01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:21.439
<v Speaker 2>He's the physicists at South Paul. I mean, these are

1503
01:34:21.479 --> 01:34:25.079
<v Speaker 2>some of the biggest brain physicists on the planet working

1504
01:34:25.119 --> 01:34:28.359
<v Speaker 2>these experiments, right, And I would hammer them with a cold,

1505
01:34:28.399 --> 01:34:31.640
<v Speaker 2>hard fact because everybody, you know, they get egos and

1506
01:34:31.640 --> 01:34:33.680
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that, and I would say, you know, you

1507
01:34:33.720 --> 01:34:36.319
<v Speaker 2>do realize that the only thing of physicists can tell

1508
01:34:36.359 --> 01:34:40.920
<v Speaker 2>you of value is what they just saw. That's all

1509
01:34:41.000 --> 01:34:44.159
<v Speaker 2>they do. And everybody wants to make it out like

1510
01:34:44.199 --> 01:34:47.199
<v Speaker 2>it's some big deal, but all they're doing is observing

1511
01:34:47.239 --> 01:34:54.680
<v Speaker 2>something and defining what they saw. Well, thanks guy.

1512
01:34:54.760 --> 01:34:58.399
<v Speaker 1>So how did you find out about Thomas Bearden? Because

1513
01:34:58.439 --> 01:35:02.439
<v Speaker 1>I know that's a you know, a synchronicity. I hate

1514
01:35:02.479 --> 01:35:04.439
<v Speaker 1>using the word. I isn't going to use it that

1515
01:35:04.479 --> 01:35:06.920
<v Speaker 1>you and I both have as we both found out about.

1516
01:35:06.920 --> 01:35:12.880
<v Speaker 2>I found out about Thomas Beard many years ago with

1517
01:35:13.239 --> 01:35:19.239
<v Speaker 2>an exceptionally peculiar client that I had, and it was

1518
01:35:19.319 --> 01:35:22.720
<v Speaker 2>in this interaction back and I guess this would have

1519
01:35:22.800 --> 01:35:28.680
<v Speaker 2>been approximately two thousand and four or five that I

1520
01:35:28.760 --> 01:35:33.199
<v Speaker 2>met this person and he started educating me on the

1521
01:35:33.399 --> 01:35:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Thomas Beard information. A lot of stuff about Nikola Tesla,

1522
01:35:38.479 --> 01:35:41.800
<v Speaker 2>what the current state of our technology was at that

1523
01:35:42.159 --> 01:35:46.720
<v Speaker 2>time that we were discussing things, and where Tesla technology

1524
01:35:46.880 --> 01:35:52.279
<v Speaker 2>was already permeating into some aspects of the military industrial complex.

1525
01:35:53.039 --> 01:35:56.560
<v Speaker 2>As an example would be the oh there you go,

1526
01:35:58.119 --> 01:36:01.520
<v Speaker 2>that's the basement from the client that I went to.

1527
01:36:01.560 --> 01:36:06.159
<v Speaker 2>His name was Toby Circus Ballantine, and he is a

1528
01:36:06.239 --> 01:36:11.199
<v Speaker 2>man with quite the reputation in family history in regards

1529
01:36:11.279 --> 01:36:16.039
<v Speaker 2>to the Alphabet agencies such as the OSS in World

1530
01:36:16.119 --> 01:36:20.159
<v Speaker 2>War two and also the creation of the CIA right

1531
01:36:20.159 --> 01:36:24.119
<v Speaker 2>on the heels of World War two. So those are

1532
01:36:24.159 --> 01:36:26.560
<v Speaker 2>those are two Tesla coils in that image that were

1533
01:36:26.600 --> 01:36:31.199
<v Speaker 2>both in his basement when I first arrived to do

1534
01:36:31.680 --> 01:36:37.039
<v Speaker 2>work for him. And he was quite the character.

1535
01:36:38.279 --> 01:36:40.119
<v Speaker 1>I think that's just incredible that you show up to

1536
01:36:40.159 --> 01:36:43.520
<v Speaker 1>somebody's house and then they got Tesla coils in their

1537
01:36:43.560 --> 01:36:46.319
<v Speaker 1>basement and it was telling you about Thomas Beard, and

1538
01:36:46.680 --> 01:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>you know that that to me is wild.

1539
01:36:48.800 --> 01:36:51.119
<v Speaker 2>Sat me down and we would we would watch videos

1540
01:36:51.119 --> 01:36:55.640
<v Speaker 2>he was he was He was a very innovative person, Toby.

1541
01:36:56.199 --> 01:36:58.640
<v Speaker 2>So when we would watch videos, he had also gone

1542
01:36:58.680 --> 01:37:00.239
<v Speaker 2>as so far as his he had he had a

1543
01:37:00.279 --> 01:37:05.159
<v Speaker 2>projector screen, but right in front of the projector screen

1544
01:37:05.319 --> 01:37:09.520
<v Speaker 2>he had put down. He had purchased a large piece

1545
01:37:09.640 --> 01:37:12.239
<v Speaker 2>of like like window screen, like if you were going

1546
01:37:12.319 --> 01:37:15.680
<v Speaker 2>to repair your own window screen. So he had a

1547
01:37:15.760 --> 01:37:19.319
<v Speaker 2>large section of this material and he had it hung

1548
01:37:20.000 --> 01:37:24.479
<v Speaker 2>a few inches in front of the other projector screen

1549
01:37:24.600 --> 01:37:29.520
<v Speaker 2>so that when he projected, it caused a three D effect.

1550
01:37:31.079 --> 01:37:33.199
<v Speaker 2>And this was like his own way of making his

1551
01:37:33.319 --> 01:37:37.039
<v Speaker 2>own little three D projector. So it was, you know,

1552
01:37:37.079 --> 01:37:39.520
<v Speaker 2>the screen in the front with the projector screen to

1553
01:37:39.600 --> 01:37:41.479
<v Speaker 2>the rear, and there was a difference in depth from

1554
01:37:41.520 --> 01:37:43.840
<v Speaker 2>the one to the next, and it was a it

1555
01:37:43.880 --> 01:37:48.000
<v Speaker 2>was a functional workaround to give you like a three

1556
01:37:48.119 --> 01:37:50.560
<v Speaker 2>D image. So I mean, this is what it was

1557
01:37:50.600 --> 01:37:55.279
<v Speaker 2>like dealing with Toby, is that everything was a bit

1558
01:37:55.319 --> 01:37:56.520
<v Speaker 2>more intelligently done.

1559
01:37:57.159 --> 01:38:01.880
<v Speaker 1>That sounds like holography, which is very interest because optical

1560
01:38:01.920 --> 01:38:07.079
<v Speaker 1>phase conjugation is how you get to holography and from

1561
01:38:07.159 --> 01:38:10.560
<v Speaker 1>digging to the image three seven zero investigation. In case,

1562
01:38:10.640 --> 01:38:15.039
<v Speaker 1>I found out about holography and optical phase conjugation from

1563
01:38:15.079 --> 01:38:17.760
<v Speaker 1>the Thomas Beard and stuff, and then I found out

1564
01:38:17.800 --> 01:38:20.800
<v Speaker 1>about macroscopic phase conjugation, which is so do you.

1565
01:38:20.800 --> 01:38:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Remember way back when when National Geographic first had sticker

1566
01:38:26.960 --> 01:38:31.960
<v Speaker 2>applicats on the cover that showed holograms. So when I

1567
01:38:32.039 --> 01:38:34.880
<v Speaker 2>was a plumber on Long Island, I had a client

1568
01:38:34.960 --> 01:38:37.760
<v Speaker 2>I had the weirdest I just it was amazing all

1569
01:38:37.800 --> 01:38:40.520
<v Speaker 2>the different people that I met. One of the people

1570
01:38:40.560 --> 01:38:42.560
<v Speaker 2>I met, I worked in the guy's house. He had

1571
01:38:42.640 --> 01:38:46.319
<v Speaker 2>his laboratory set up. I looked at this guy shooting

1572
01:38:46.439 --> 01:38:49.760
<v Speaker 2>lasers across his lower level of his house. It was

1573
01:38:49.760 --> 01:38:54.479
<v Speaker 2>in like Muttontown or something. But he was the holographer

1574
01:38:55.359 --> 01:39:00.560
<v Speaker 2>that the National Geographic tapped to make those cover. That

1575
01:39:00.760 --> 01:39:01.600
<v Speaker 2>was him.

1576
01:39:02.319 --> 01:39:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Really, yeah, it's weird how there's the stuff that seems

1577
01:39:06.960 --> 01:39:08.880
<v Speaker 1>mundane that we just see it and we don't think

1578
01:39:08.880 --> 01:39:11.359
<v Speaker 1>twice about. We just go, well, that's cool looking, but

1579
01:39:11.399 --> 01:39:13.239
<v Speaker 1>you never think about, like, how does that? How do

1580
01:39:13.279 --> 01:39:15.520
<v Speaker 1>we actually do that? Why is that a thing that

1581
01:39:15.560 --> 01:39:17.560
<v Speaker 1>we can make a hologram like that?

1582
01:39:17.600 --> 01:39:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I worked. I worked at a laboratory in sciost on

1583
01:39:21.119 --> 01:39:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Long Island that at the time they were working with

1584
01:39:26.640 --> 01:39:31.600
<v Speaker 2>sheets of glass and a liquid crystal in between the

1585
01:39:31.640 --> 01:39:35.000
<v Speaker 2>panes of glass, and they were trying to make the

1586
01:39:35.039 --> 01:39:39.960
<v Speaker 2>liquid crystal have letters show up like a computer screen.

1587
01:39:41.840 --> 01:39:45.119
<v Speaker 2>It was it was just the dogs of crystal display

1588
01:39:45.640 --> 01:39:48.439
<v Speaker 2>laboratory work, and I was there working on a sink,

1589
01:39:48.520 --> 01:39:51.800
<v Speaker 2>listening to the scientists screaming yell at each other trying

1590
01:39:51.800 --> 01:39:52.560
<v Speaker 2>to make it work.

1591
01:39:53.520 --> 01:39:57.720
<v Speaker 1>That's funny. So I want to talk a little bit

1592
01:39:57.720 --> 01:40:02.399
<v Speaker 1>about suppression and air the All Demand Anomaly Resolution Office.

1593
01:40:02.800 --> 01:40:05.399
<v Speaker 1>So you told me before in a pre call that

1594
01:40:05.720 --> 01:40:09.960
<v Speaker 1>you actually talked to the AARO. What was your experience

1595
01:40:10.159 --> 01:40:12.560
<v Speaker 1>like talking to them, and what is your impression.

1596
01:40:12.079 --> 01:40:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Of I thought that the gentlemen at Arrow were decent

1597
01:40:19.680 --> 01:40:26.079
<v Speaker 2>folk that got dealt shitty cards. It seemed like they

1598
01:40:26.079 --> 01:40:30.239
<v Speaker 2>were generally interested in the information that I was putting forth.

1599
01:40:30.920 --> 01:40:34.800
<v Speaker 2>It seemed like they had a general appreciation for the

1600
01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:40.199
<v Speaker 2>veracity of my statements and the documentation that I presented,

1601
01:40:41.840 --> 01:40:46.720
<v Speaker 2>to the point that the conversation came full circle and

1602
01:40:46.840 --> 01:40:53.600
<v Speaker 2>they quite bluntly asked me, what are they supposed to

1603
01:40:53.680 --> 01:40:59.479
<v Speaker 2>do in the future when they've run information like mine

1604
01:40:59.720 --> 01:41:03.920
<v Speaker 2>up their chain of command that they absolutely believe that

1605
01:41:03.960 --> 01:41:06.720
<v Speaker 2>there's you know, information like mine and other information out there.

1606
01:41:06.760 --> 01:41:10.239
<v Speaker 2>They said, what do they do when that stuff just

1607
01:41:10.279 --> 01:41:14.439
<v Speaker 2>gets wholly ignored? Which was what they were anticipating, is

1608
01:41:14.439 --> 01:41:17.199
<v Speaker 2>that you know, they're they're getting good intel, but they're

1609
01:41:17.239 --> 01:41:19.640
<v Speaker 2>not going to be allowed to do anything with this.

1610
01:41:20.520 --> 01:41:22.640
<v Speaker 2>And they just basically said, like you know, like like

1611
01:41:23.079 --> 01:41:24.960
<v Speaker 2>human being, the human being, like, what do you think

1612
01:41:25.039 --> 01:41:28.600
<v Speaker 2>we should do? And I just told them straight up,

1613
01:41:28.640 --> 01:41:33.600
<v Speaker 2>I said, you need to quit your jobs and start

1614
01:41:33.640 --> 01:41:37.000
<v Speaker 2>working for the right team. I said, that's just that's

1615
01:41:37.079 --> 01:41:39.319
<v Speaker 2>just how life goes. I said, if if you're going

1616
01:41:39.359 --> 01:41:43.039
<v Speaker 2>to ask me, that's my answer. If you're taking good

1617
01:41:43.119 --> 01:41:46.279
<v Speaker 2>intel and you're going to watch it get brushed under

1618
01:41:46.520 --> 01:41:50.279
<v Speaker 2>the rug, I said, you you only have one direction

1619
01:41:50.479 --> 01:41:52.159
<v Speaker 2>to go. And I said, that's just you know, as

1620
01:41:52.159 --> 01:41:55.279
<v Speaker 2>far away from this as possible. You know.

1621
01:41:55.439 --> 01:41:58.800
<v Speaker 1>That was my interaction with them as well, is that

1622
01:41:58.960 --> 01:42:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I remember the guy that called in January and he

1623
01:42:02.039 --> 01:42:04.239
<v Speaker 1>was telling me about the football game because it was like,

1624
01:42:04.239 --> 01:42:07.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, national championships and bowl season going on, and

1625
01:42:07.520 --> 01:42:09.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, it was just like talking to a normal guy,

1626
01:42:09.840 --> 01:42:14.520
<v Speaker 1>which was great, but it did you know. I talked

1627
01:42:14.520 --> 01:42:15.880
<v Speaker 1>to him a little bit about some of these like

1628
01:42:16.439 --> 01:42:19.880
<v Speaker 1>February shootdowns from last year, which are this UFO event

1629
01:42:19.960 --> 01:42:22.399
<v Speaker 1>that happened, and you know he's kind of telling me, oh, no,

1630
01:42:22.479 --> 01:42:24.479
<v Speaker 1>that was just balloons and what have you. And I'm

1631
01:42:24.479 --> 01:42:27.079
<v Speaker 1>sitting there just going man like I feel like this

1632
01:42:27.119 --> 01:42:29.960
<v Speaker 1>guy's never going to be allowed to tell the truth

1633
01:42:30.000 --> 01:42:33.479
<v Speaker 1>about what we are really technologically capable of, which made

1634
01:42:33.520 --> 01:42:35.720
<v Speaker 1>me a little bit sad. You know, how do you

1635
01:42:35.760 --> 01:42:38.840
<v Speaker 1>think do you think that that is a main mechanism

1636
01:42:38.880 --> 01:42:40.760
<v Speaker 1>of suppression. I guess the better question is how do

1637
01:42:40.800 --> 01:42:43.239
<v Speaker 1>you think that they are suppressing this information?

1638
01:42:44.680 --> 01:42:49.600
<v Speaker 2>I think so many people are job scared that they

1639
01:42:49.680 --> 01:42:57.800
<v Speaker 2>found themselves in a circumstance that they don't feel financially

1640
01:42:58.880 --> 01:43:03.119
<v Speaker 2>free to exercise the decisions that they want to make.

1641
01:43:03.800 --> 01:43:06.039
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's something that we need to pay

1642
01:43:06.079 --> 01:43:11.199
<v Speaker 2>attention to the mechanations of society around us, because I

1643
01:43:11.319 --> 01:43:16.800
<v Speaker 2>believe that most people will find that they themselves have

1644
01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:21.039
<v Speaker 2>allowed themselves to get into such a circumstance, and this

1645
01:43:21.239 --> 01:43:26.079
<v Speaker 2>is one of the main control mechanisms of society in general.

1646
01:43:26.800 --> 01:43:30.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean, everybody was threatened with losing their job if

1647
01:43:30.399 --> 01:43:33.359
<v Speaker 2>they didn't wear a mask, so they put a mask on.

1648
01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:37.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was it was pretty obvious that there

1649
01:43:37.319 --> 01:43:38.800
<v Speaker 2>was an operation going on.

1650
01:43:41.199 --> 01:43:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so like money, shit worked, money, that's all it

1651
01:43:45.399 --> 01:43:48.479
<v Speaker 1>really takes. It takes away somebody's job. You threaten them

1652
01:43:48.479 --> 01:43:52.239
<v Speaker 1>with their job, and you know, I work in healthcare, it.

1653
01:43:53.680 --> 01:43:57.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm no big proponent of wearing masks. I personally think

1654
01:43:57.039 --> 01:43:59.079
<v Speaker 1>it's silly. I don't think that I don't believe in

1655
01:43:59.079 --> 01:44:02.119
<v Speaker 1>my aisma theory, and I don't think that a cold

1656
01:44:02.199 --> 01:44:04.439
<v Speaker 1>virus is going to be stopped by a cloth mask

1657
01:44:04.479 --> 01:44:07.000
<v Speaker 1>over my face. But I did wear them when I

1658
01:44:07.039 --> 01:44:08.840
<v Speaker 1>went to the hospital because they made us wear them,

1659
01:44:08.840 --> 01:44:11.159
<v Speaker 1>and I like having my job and I didn't want

1660
01:44:11.159 --> 01:44:14.640
<v Speaker 1>to lose it. So I think that that's a that's

1661
01:44:14.720 --> 01:44:18.399
<v Speaker 1>an underappreciated aspect of how this is kept quiet. You know,

1662
01:44:18.520 --> 01:44:20.680
<v Speaker 1>my opinion is that there's not as many people out

1663
01:44:20.720 --> 01:44:23.560
<v Speaker 1>there that know about this that what people as what

1664
01:44:23.640 --> 01:44:27.479
<v Speaker 1>people think, and therefore, you know, a lot of people

1665
01:44:27.560 --> 01:44:29.279
<v Speaker 1>just do whatever there is going to give them that

1666
01:44:29.279 --> 01:44:32.399
<v Speaker 1>paycheck and then they go home. But what about the

1667
01:44:32.479 --> 01:44:34.520
<v Speaker 1>idea of you know, do you think a lot of

1668
01:44:34.560 --> 01:44:38.039
<v Speaker 1>people are under NDAs related to this technology or you know,

1669
01:44:38.239 --> 01:44:39.840
<v Speaker 1>what's your thoughts in terms of.

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01:44:39.920 --> 01:44:43.880
<v Speaker 2>I think I think a lot of people have absolutely

1671
01:44:44.000 --> 01:44:50.000
<v Speaker 2>found themselves in some sort of non disclosure situation, which

1672
01:44:50.079 --> 01:44:54.399
<v Speaker 2>also gets them right back to having their their finances threatened.

1673
01:44:55.279 --> 01:44:59.159
<v Speaker 2>So it's just it's par for the course nowadays that

1674
01:44:59.560 --> 01:45:03.359
<v Speaker 2>people will gladly sign an NDA on the front end,

1675
01:45:03.479 --> 01:45:06.760
<v Speaker 2>having no idea what that means on the back end.

1676
01:45:07.479 --> 01:45:10.520
<v Speaker 2>And you know what that means for me the people

1677
01:45:11.239 --> 01:45:15.079
<v Speaker 2>is that we're getting bamboozled six ways from Sunday, because

1678
01:45:15.119 --> 01:45:19.720
<v Speaker 2>it's going to take some really bold people to step

1679
01:45:19.840 --> 01:45:24.079
<v Speaker 2>up against these NDAs. One of the things that I

1680
01:45:24.119 --> 01:45:28.239
<v Speaker 2>was interesting about the work that Greer did recently was

1681
01:45:28.359 --> 01:45:32.960
<v Speaker 2>that he made folks realize that, you know, if if

1682
01:45:33.000 --> 01:45:37.560
<v Speaker 2>you sign an NDA or an organization that's involved with

1683
01:45:37.720 --> 01:45:42.520
<v Speaker 2>illegal activity, well the NDA doesn't mean anything then because

1684
01:45:42.520 --> 01:45:44.720
<v Speaker 2>nobody you know, it just it doesn't work like that.

1685
01:45:44.880 --> 01:45:47.960
<v Speaker 2>So I think that's another thing for folks to consider

1686
01:45:48.600 --> 01:45:52.279
<v Speaker 2>is that if the stuff that you are covering up

1687
01:45:53.119 --> 01:45:58.720
<v Speaker 2>is not good stuff, well then the NDA probably doesn't

1688
01:45:58.760 --> 01:46:01.600
<v Speaker 2>apply anyhow. I mean, these are people that should just

1689
01:46:01.600 --> 01:46:02.520
<v Speaker 2>be charred.

1690
01:46:04.359 --> 01:46:06.000
<v Speaker 1>And one thing I heard, I think was on a

1691
01:46:06.039 --> 01:46:08.560
<v Speaker 1>space the other night that people were saying, well, if

1692
01:46:08.560 --> 01:46:12.199
<v Speaker 1>people are doing illegal stuff, who's going to prosecute them anyway? Well,

1693
01:46:12.199 --> 01:46:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people don't realize that, like,

1694
01:46:14.119 --> 01:46:16.560
<v Speaker 1>the people who are doing the prosecuting are also under

1695
01:46:16.600 --> 01:46:18.880
<v Speaker 1>the thumb of everybody else and they don't want to

1696
01:46:18.920 --> 01:46:21.439
<v Speaker 1>lose their jobs either. Did you have to sign an

1697
01:46:21.560 --> 01:46:24.199
<v Speaker 1>NDA with the ARROW and your thing with them or

1698
01:46:24.279 --> 01:46:24.640
<v Speaker 1>at all?

1699
01:46:25.159 --> 01:46:31.079
<v Speaker 2>I signed. I signed an NDA with ARROW or the

1700
01:46:31.239 --> 01:46:37.159
<v Speaker 2>provision that I would not speak about the location of

1701
01:46:37.199 --> 01:46:43.840
<v Speaker 2>the facility or the people that are questioning me, other

1702
01:46:43.920 --> 01:46:47.960
<v Speaker 2>than that I am free to discuss any and every

1703
01:46:48.119 --> 01:46:52.800
<v Speaker 2>other aspect about my meeting with them, because this, and

1704
01:46:52.880 --> 01:46:55.560
<v Speaker 2>again this is this is where people don't realize, is that,

1705
01:46:55.880 --> 01:46:58.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, everybody wants to say, you know, oh, this

1706
01:46:58.119 --> 01:47:00.279
<v Speaker 2>guy's full of crap, because if this is the case,

1707
01:47:00.319 --> 01:47:02.720
<v Speaker 2>he'd be dead about you know what, that's just all

1708
01:47:02.800 --> 01:47:06.439
<v Speaker 2>cowardly crap. And the fact that I'm here doing what

1709
01:47:06.520 --> 01:47:11.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing is actively thumbing my nose at all the

1710
01:47:11.760 --> 01:47:17.840
<v Speaker 2>people that say that cowardly crap. We as individuals have

1711
01:47:18.239 --> 01:47:23.439
<v Speaker 2>a lot of power and people need to start exercising it.

1712
01:47:23.479 --> 01:47:25.319
<v Speaker 2>So could I have gotten shot in the back of

1713
01:47:25.359 --> 01:47:28.199
<v Speaker 2>the head when I entered a skiff for the Senate

1714
01:47:28.239 --> 01:47:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Intelligence Committee or Arrow? You know, technically, yeah, I could have.

1715
01:47:34.279 --> 01:47:37.680
<v Speaker 2>But I still had something to do. I still had

1716
01:47:37.800 --> 01:47:41.039
<v Speaker 2>things that had to be said. So I went and

1717
01:47:41.199 --> 01:47:45.640
<v Speaker 2>lo and behold, I'm fine. So all this bologney about

1718
01:47:45.760 --> 01:47:48.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, if this guy was legit if he had

1719
01:47:48.680 --> 01:47:51.840
<v Speaker 2>something to say, that's that's part of the program to

1720
01:47:51.920 --> 01:47:57.199
<v Speaker 2>keep people from talking. I'm here living testimony saying if

1721
01:47:57.239 --> 01:48:01.800
<v Speaker 2>you know something that's going on, what that faction is

1722
01:48:01.880 --> 01:48:06.279
<v Speaker 2>doing that you're aware of, is to a detriment to

1723
01:48:06.359 --> 01:48:11.199
<v Speaker 2>the vast majority of the people on this planet. If

1724
01:48:11.279 --> 01:48:17.920
<v Speaker 2>you don't speak up fast and furiously, you are part

1725
01:48:17.960 --> 01:48:21.279
<v Speaker 2>of the problem and people will be coming to get you.

1726
01:48:23.680 --> 01:48:26.279
<v Speaker 1>That's a good point, and that coincides with what Arrow

1727
01:48:26.359 --> 01:48:29.720
<v Speaker 1>told me, presuming that I haven't. I'm skeptical about everybody

1728
01:48:29.720 --> 01:48:31.239
<v Speaker 1>I talked to you now because I've been scammed and

1729
01:48:31.279 --> 01:48:33.840
<v Speaker 1>what have you. But the only thing they told me

1730
01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:35.720
<v Speaker 1>was they said I can talk about anything related to

1731
01:48:35.760 --> 01:48:37.920
<v Speaker 1>our conversation and this was just over our phone call,

1732
01:48:38.319 --> 01:48:40.439
<v Speaker 1>but that they didn't want me to reveal their names,

1733
01:48:40.880 --> 01:48:42.520
<v Speaker 1>which makes sense. I mean, they get a lot of

1734
01:48:42.680 --> 01:48:47.199
<v Speaker 1>a lot of hate out there. What was the experience

1735
01:48:47.439 --> 01:48:49.479
<v Speaker 1>like when you met with Arrow?

1736
01:48:51.239 --> 01:48:56.439
<v Speaker 2>In terms of what the experience was, they were extremely

1737
01:48:57.359 --> 01:49:04.119
<v Speaker 2>appreciative of the spending time with them and explaining what

1738
01:49:04.199 --> 01:49:08.239
<v Speaker 2>my observations and understandings were of what was going on

1739
01:49:08.319 --> 01:49:12.800
<v Speaker 2>at the South Pole Station. It appears that there are

1740
01:49:13.119 --> 01:49:17.439
<v Speaker 2>aspects of our own government, whatever you want to call it,

1741
01:49:17.439 --> 01:49:21.279
<v Speaker 2>our checks and balances system that have run a muck.

1742
01:49:21.720 --> 01:49:24.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I can't argue that. Again, this is all

1743
01:49:24.359 --> 01:49:29.279
<v Speaker 2>easily observable. But with that being said, it appears that

1744
01:49:29.319 --> 01:49:35.359
<v Speaker 2>there are concerned aspects of our government that are completely

1745
01:49:35.680 --> 01:49:41.199
<v Speaker 2>aware of rogue factions and activity that have sprung up

1746
01:49:41.760 --> 01:49:46.039
<v Speaker 2>through our own systems that are now going on without oversight.

1747
01:49:47.199 --> 01:49:50.840
<v Speaker 2>And there are people that want to reel this back in.

1748
01:49:51.439 --> 01:49:58.039
<v Speaker 2>But there is a substantial amount of bureaucracy even to

1749
01:49:58.399 --> 01:49:59.880
<v Speaker 2>such a noble task.

1750
01:50:01.199 --> 01:50:04.199
<v Speaker 1>And how secretive was you don't I don't want to

1751
01:50:04.199 --> 01:50:07.239
<v Speaker 1>know specifics about where the location was, but you know,

1752
01:50:07.279 --> 01:50:09.840
<v Speaker 1>were there people armed guards outside where you had to

1753
01:50:09.840 --> 01:50:11.680
<v Speaker 1>go in and meet with them? Or was it more

1754
01:50:11.760 --> 01:50:13.720
<v Speaker 1>unassuming in terms.

1755
01:50:13.399 --> 01:50:18.399
<v Speaker 2>Of oh, so the for the Senate Intelligence Committee, it

1756
01:50:18.600 --> 01:50:23.479
<v Speaker 2>was right at the heart building, so it was a

1757
01:50:23.600 --> 01:50:28.439
<v Speaker 2>known location. It was their headquarters and good luck trying

1758
01:50:28.439 --> 01:50:34.079
<v Speaker 2>to get in there. Yeah, But then the the other facility.

1759
01:50:35.600 --> 01:50:39.199
<v Speaker 2>I was gagged on discussing the location, but what I

1760
01:50:39.319 --> 01:50:45.760
<v Speaker 2>could state is that it was just it was how

1761
01:50:45.800 --> 01:50:49.279
<v Speaker 2>do I put it? It was right under your nose,

1762
01:50:49.399 --> 01:50:53.880
<v Speaker 2>location in the middle of civilization.

1763
01:50:54.439 --> 01:50:56.359
<v Speaker 1>Some place you would never expect would be Yeah.

1764
01:50:56.720 --> 01:50:59.000
<v Speaker 2>There was no signage up that said top secret. There

1765
01:50:59.039 --> 01:51:02.600
<v Speaker 2>was no barbed wire fence, there was no official guard.

1766
01:51:02.760 --> 01:51:06.680
<v Speaker 2>You could walk right into this building and out of it.

1767
01:51:07.079 --> 01:51:11.359
<v Speaker 2>You would have had no idea. And this is These

1768
01:51:11.359 --> 01:51:14.760
<v Speaker 2>are the types of facilities that I have oddly enough

1769
01:51:14.840 --> 01:51:19.239
<v Speaker 2>found myself in through my entire career on Long Island.

1770
01:51:19.840 --> 01:51:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Was I was always coming across these weird facilities. So

1771
01:51:24.159 --> 01:51:28.279
<v Speaker 2>then you know, when it came down to this Arrow testimony,

1772
01:51:28.359 --> 01:51:31.319
<v Speaker 2>I was there with my roommate who was also stationed

1773
01:51:31.359 --> 01:51:33.760
<v Speaker 2>at the South Pole with me. She was also coming

1774
01:51:33.800 --> 01:51:40.520
<v Speaker 2>to give testimony. When we entered the building, I immediately

1775
01:51:40.560 --> 01:51:42.119
<v Speaker 2>pretty much soon as we walked in, we took a

1776
01:51:42.119 --> 01:51:43.600
<v Speaker 2>few steps and I was like, come wait, cook here,

1777
01:51:43.680 --> 01:51:48.119
<v Speaker 2>walk right back outside. Came here and I clarified her.

1778
01:51:48.159 --> 01:51:50.399
<v Speaker 2>I said, you remember all those different facilities I told

1779
01:51:50.439 --> 01:51:54.960
<v Speaker 2>you about on Long Island. I said, watch what's about

1780
01:51:55.039 --> 01:51:58.680
<v Speaker 2>to happen when we go back in this building. I said,

1781
01:51:58.680 --> 01:52:00.880
<v Speaker 2>you saw, I said, We walked in, took two steps,

1782
01:52:00.920 --> 01:52:03.119
<v Speaker 2>and I said it looked like a regular building, right,

1783
01:52:03.119 --> 01:52:06.000
<v Speaker 2>And she goes, yeah, he said, watch what's going to happen?

1784
01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:09.600
<v Speaker 2>And then we proceeded to go through the motions of

1785
01:52:09.760 --> 01:52:12.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, go in, go to this elevator, bank, hit

1786
01:52:12.640 --> 01:52:15.319
<v Speaker 2>this button, hit that, and next thing, you know, it

1787
01:52:15.359 --> 01:52:17.439
<v Speaker 2>was like full blown. It was like the start to

1788
01:52:17.520 --> 01:52:20.840
<v Speaker 2>get smart with all the different barricade doors and this

1789
01:52:20.920 --> 01:52:23.319
<v Speaker 2>opens and that opens, and now all of a sudden

1790
01:52:23.359 --> 01:52:30.199
<v Speaker 2>there's a massive amount of security personnel and pat downs

1791
01:52:30.239 --> 01:52:35.600
<v Speaker 2>and questions and wanding and this person is officially from

1792
01:52:35.840 --> 01:52:39.720
<v Speaker 2>the Secret Service and this person is here to you know,

1793
01:52:39.920 --> 01:52:42.840
<v Speaker 2>check on behalfs of this person, and this person needs

1794
01:52:42.880 --> 01:52:47.399
<v Speaker 2>to check on behalf of There's all different organizations giving

1795
01:52:47.479 --> 01:52:52.600
<v Speaker 2>security inspections to represent different departments that have access to

1796
01:52:52.640 --> 01:52:55.359
<v Speaker 2>the conversation that's about to occur. And it was just

1797
01:52:55.960 --> 01:52:58.520
<v Speaker 2>it was you know, it was a sight to see

1798
01:52:58.760 --> 01:53:01.680
<v Speaker 2>that was there was a lot going on that day.

1799
01:53:02.920 --> 01:53:05.800
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome, man. I think that's just a fun anecdote

1800
01:53:05.840 --> 01:53:08.359
<v Speaker 1>for people to understand because it shows how it's just

1801
01:53:08.439 --> 01:53:10.960
<v Speaker 1>hiding in plain sight. You know, it's a good analogy

1802
01:53:10.960 --> 01:53:13.479
<v Speaker 1>to the technology as well, is the technology is hiding

1803
01:53:13.520 --> 01:53:16.119
<v Speaker 1>in plain sight as well. You know, we looked today

1804
01:53:16.359 --> 01:53:18.880
<v Speaker 1>during this conversation at all these websites that are showing

1805
01:53:18.920 --> 01:53:22.520
<v Speaker 1>technology lockeed Martin's websites has a whole section on directed

1806
01:53:22.600 --> 01:53:25.800
<v Speaker 1>energy weapons that are out there, and people think that

1807
01:53:25.840 --> 01:53:28.239
<v Speaker 1>it's not possible or it's just magic, and it's not

1808
01:53:28.359 --> 01:53:31.239
<v Speaker 1>just possible, but it's been in effect for decades, you know,

1809
01:53:31.439 --> 01:53:35.800
<v Speaker 1>the magneto hydrodynamic motors and the submarines that Eric found

1810
01:53:35.800 --> 01:53:37.920
<v Speaker 1>out about in the nineties. Guys, this is a little

1811
01:53:37.920 --> 01:53:39.960
<v Speaker 1>long way out there, and they say, well, why woul't

1812
01:53:39.960 --> 01:53:42.159
<v Speaker 1>they just kill Eric or kill me and the stuff

1813
01:53:42.159 --> 01:53:43.920
<v Speaker 1>that I'm talking about, because that's not how it works.

1814
01:53:44.439 --> 01:53:47.079
<v Speaker 1>You know. General Flynn mentioned on a space he said, well,

1815
01:53:47.119 --> 01:53:49.640
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of forensics nowadays. You know, if they

1816
01:53:49.720 --> 01:53:52.000
<v Speaker 1>kill somebody, there's a lot of evidence left behind. Somebody's

1817
01:53:52.000 --> 01:53:53.399
<v Speaker 1>got to go do the deed as well, and you

1818
01:53:53.439 --> 01:53:55.760
<v Speaker 1>got to silence that person. And you know, maybe they

1819
01:53:55.800 --> 01:53:58.279
<v Speaker 1>did that more in the sixties and seventies and what

1820
01:53:58.359 --> 01:54:00.880
<v Speaker 1>have you, and maybe the eighties, but now it's just

1821
01:54:00.920 --> 01:54:04.520
<v Speaker 1>a matter of disinformation matter discretion.

1822
01:54:04.560 --> 01:54:06.720
<v Speaker 2>That's another thing for folks to consider in the grand

1823
01:54:06.760 --> 01:54:09.600
<v Speaker 2>scheme of keep Hope alive. The other reason I'm not

1824
01:54:09.680 --> 01:54:13.640
<v Speaker 2>dead because I'm on the winning team. That's how that

1825
01:54:13.680 --> 01:54:18.239
<v Speaker 2>works in life too, is that currently there are folks

1826
01:54:18.279 --> 01:54:22.560
<v Speaker 2>that are scared shitless of what I'm going to do

1827
01:54:22.680 --> 01:54:27.960
<v Speaker 2>next or who I might divulge. The next conversation that occurred, Yeah,

1828
01:54:29.279 --> 01:54:34.319
<v Speaker 2>that's a reality too that people haven't considered, is that, Yeah,

1829
01:54:34.359 --> 01:54:36.640
<v Speaker 2>there's there's a lot of activity going on. There's all

1830
01:54:36.720 --> 01:54:39.680
<v Speaker 2>kinds of different factions doing all kinds of different things.

1831
01:54:40.239 --> 01:54:43.960
<v Speaker 2>And I would assume that if somebody wanted me dead,

1832
01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:47.640
<v Speaker 2>I'd be dead, or if someone was scared shitless to

1833
01:54:47.680 --> 01:54:52.359
<v Speaker 2>make a move on me, I'd be alive. I'm currently alive.

1834
01:54:54.760 --> 01:54:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Me too, thankfully. So Eric, I really appreciate the conversation

1835
01:54:59.479 --> 01:55:03.439
<v Speaker 1>that we've had here today. I find your story, you know,

1836
01:55:03.680 --> 01:55:06.239
<v Speaker 1>very interesting. I do find that there's a lot of

1837
01:55:06.239 --> 01:55:08.600
<v Speaker 1>credibility to stuff that you say. You know, you don't

1838
01:55:08.640 --> 01:55:10.680
<v Speaker 1>go out there and make a bunch of claims that

1839
01:55:11.000 --> 01:55:14.239
<v Speaker 1>are unknowable information, you know, you make claims that is

1840
01:55:15.039 --> 01:55:18.039
<v Speaker 1>science that can be looked into, that can be verified.

1841
01:55:18.640 --> 01:55:21.560
<v Speaker 1>And I wish that Aerro would look into what's going

1842
01:55:21.600 --> 01:55:24.920
<v Speaker 1>on in Antarctica and with these defense contractors, because I

1843
01:55:24.960 --> 01:55:27.239
<v Speaker 1>think that they'll find the stuff that you're saying, even

1844
01:55:27.359 --> 01:55:29.680
<v Speaker 1>some of the opinions that you've made about what's possible

1845
01:55:29.720 --> 01:55:31.960
<v Speaker 1>to technology I think they'll find that it is true

1846
01:55:32.000 --> 01:55:34.560
<v Speaker 1>as well, and that the public deserves to know that.

1847
01:55:34.760 --> 01:55:37.159
<v Speaker 1>So in the last few minutes, I'd like to give

1848
01:55:37.159 --> 01:55:39.880
<v Speaker 1>you opportunity to plug anything that you want to plug.

1849
01:55:39.920 --> 01:55:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I know you've got your website deciphering dot tv where

1850
01:55:42.960 --> 01:55:45.560
<v Speaker 1>people can watch a lot of clips, go over your experience,

1851
01:55:46.520 --> 01:55:49.159
<v Speaker 1>see a lot of the scientific references that you post

1852
01:55:49.199 --> 01:55:51.760
<v Speaker 1>out there. And then is there anything else that you

1853
01:55:51.840 --> 01:55:54.439
<v Speaker 1>want to tell the audience or anybody else that might

1854
01:55:54.439 --> 01:55:58.359
<v Speaker 1>be in your shoes or our shoes, let's say, disclosing

1855
01:55:58.439 --> 01:56:01.000
<v Speaker 1>information and what it advice you would give them.

1856
01:56:01.960 --> 01:56:05.279
<v Speaker 2>I would appreciate if folks can go over to deciphering

1857
01:56:05.319 --> 01:56:10.359
<v Speaker 2>dot tv. That is my website, that's my platform for

1858
01:56:10.479 --> 01:56:13.840
<v Speaker 2>freedom of speech. So I hope to do what I

1859
01:56:13.880 --> 01:56:19.119
<v Speaker 2>can to get more information out there, and it'd be appreciated.

1860
01:56:19.319 --> 01:56:21.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to help get the truth out there.

1861
01:56:21.560 --> 01:56:24.800
<v Speaker 2>So more things coming from deciphering dot tv in the

1862
01:56:24.840 --> 01:56:28.680
<v Speaker 2>not too distant future is I try to grow a

1863
01:56:28.720 --> 01:56:31.760
<v Speaker 2>platform to help others get the truth out there. But

1864
01:56:31.920 --> 01:56:34.840
<v Speaker 2>with that being said, you know, what what can we

1865
01:56:34.920 --> 01:56:40.000
<v Speaker 2>do now? Something that we can start today together to

1866
01:56:40.760 --> 01:56:43.800
<v Speaker 2>make a better future for all of us. Is what

1867
01:56:43.880 --> 01:56:50.359
<v Speaker 2>I call become unmanageable, because contemporarily, we as a group

1868
01:56:50.680 --> 01:57:00.079
<v Speaker 2>of individual consciousnesses have basically become too manageable, and they

1869
01:57:00.079 --> 01:57:05.880
<v Speaker 2>are managing us to our own detriment. So I would

1870
01:57:05.920 --> 01:57:10.359
<v Speaker 2>ask everybody in the audience do whatever you can to

1871
01:57:10.520 --> 01:57:12.319
<v Speaker 2>become unmanageable.

1872
01:57:14.960 --> 01:57:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate the advice, and I think the audience does

1873
01:57:17.560 --> 01:57:23.239
<v Speaker 1>as well. Eric Hecker, everybody, Antarctica, Advanced Technology and Suppression.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you guys very much for joining us here tonight. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to get you, Eric. We gotta get you

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<v Speaker 1>on x man x is the place to be these days.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people in the chat we're asking about

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<v Speaker 1>getting you into a space, you know, interacting with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what your opinions on a on are

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<v Speaker 1>about on Elon, but it seems like it's the least

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<v Speaker 1>suppressed place out there. I think it can help to

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<v Speaker 1>growlge the knowledge that you're trying to push out through

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<v Speaker 1>the world. So thank you everybody. Appreciate y'all and have

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<v Speaker 1>a good evening.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, sir.