1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,439 Speaker 1: We're going live. We're going live, all right, welcome in. 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:04,679 It is Tuesday. 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,879 Speaker 2: It is five dollars Tuesday at wager Talk, So make 4 00:00:07,879 --> 00:00:10,759 sure you're checking all of our pages for a five 5 00:00:10,839 --> 00:00:14,400 dollars play. It looks like, hope, we're live. Yeah, now 6 00:00:14,439 --> 00:00:16,719 that red light says we're live. I don't know why 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,879 it's taking so long to load up, but hey, sometimes 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,079 you're slow on a morning. It's like it's like four 9 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,320 degrees here, so I understand. But it looks like, okay, 10 00:00:25,359 --> 00:00:27,600 there we go. It looks like people are coming into 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,719 the chat. Before we get into it, I want to 12 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,840 point out that we kind of started Tuesday show yesterday, 13 00:00:33,119 --> 00:00:35,439 so because it was such a small slate yesterday, we've 14 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,119 already broken down Florida and Yukon. So if you miss that, 15 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,200 not only is it up as part of yesterday's show, 16 00:00:42,439 --> 00:00:45,880 but it's also we've clipped it and we've we have 17 00:00:46,039 --> 00:00:48,520 it as a standalone video. So you can go to 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,240 the wager Talk YouTube page. You can look at my Twitter, 19 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,200 you can look at Brian's Twitter. But we've already did 20 00:00:54,359 --> 00:00:59,240 the full feature breakdown for Florida and Yukon. Now, if 21 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:00,640 either of the guys I want to throw that in 22 00:01:00,679 --> 00:01:03,240 the parlay, that's fine, I'm not going to. But we're 23 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:04,959 not going to break that game down on this show 24 00:01:05,159 --> 00:01:07,719 because we did it yesterday to leave more time for 25 00:01:07,799 --> 00:01:10,840 the games on Tuesday. Brian, go ahead, tell them where 26 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,760 else they can watch Florida Yukon Today? 27 00:01:13,239 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I believe you can watch it on is 28 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,280 it FS one or ESPN? 29 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 4: Who cares about that? 30 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 5: Where you can hear another breakdown though, is me on 31 00:01:19,879 --> 00:01:23,680 wager Talk Today noon Eastern with Andy Lang. I'm gonna, 32 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,760 you know, offer different breakdowns to check in. You know, 33 00:01:26,799 --> 00:01:29,319 make sure you like subscribe if you subscribe, you know, 34 00:01:29,359 --> 00:01:32,239 not only are you instantly notified when this show goes live, 35 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,159 you'll be instantly notified when that show Way Do You 36 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,760 Talk Today goes live in two hours. Just to follow 37 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:43,400 up on yesterday's discussion of Florida and Yukon, Trig and 38 00:01:43,519 --> 00:01:47,959 Rob we said we thought Yukon would take money at 39 00:01:47,959 --> 00:01:51,319 four and a half, they have in fact taking money. 40 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,879 I'm seeing five five and a half's now pop on 41 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,879 the odd screen as we speak, so I guess we've 42 00:01:56,879 --> 00:02:00,719 already said one correct thing in that breakdown. Hopefully the 43 00:02:00,719 --> 00:02:02,239 game kind of plays out the way we thought it 44 00:02:02,239 --> 00:02:02,920 would as well. 45 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,159 Speaker 1: All right, let's yeah, let's bring Rob in here. 46 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: So again, we did that yesterday just to make more 47 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,639 room for a bigger slate today. So let's make the 48 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,199 future game. You know, I'm partial to conference play. I 49 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,800 get sick of these non conference games. Come December, I'm 50 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,280 running for some conference play. So let's go to the 51 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,719 Big Ten because we've got conference action in the Big 52 00:02:22,759 --> 00:02:26,800 Ten tonight, Ohio State Illinois, Rob kick us off. 53 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: How are you seeing this one? 54 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,039 Speaker 4: Well, obviously, guys, this is a tremendous game. Just start 55 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,360 with the matchups here, and if you go head to head, 56 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,120 it can't get any better than Kylon Boswell against Bruce Thorton. 57 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:46,360 It can't get any better than Ivasich tomaslav Iovich, the 58 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,879 big center for Illinois against Christopher Tilley, the X Santa 59 00:02:49,879 --> 00:02:53,280 Clara center, who actually was a little bit questionable on 60 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:58,759 Saturday but did play some minutes against Northwestern. Mirkovich against 61 00:02:58,759 --> 00:03:02,719 Noel All up and down the line, guys, the starting 62 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,719 five matchup really really close. I don't know that you 63 00:03:05,719 --> 00:03:09,280 can find any separation in there. I think right behind 64 00:03:09,319 --> 00:03:12,199 the separation is on the bench. I really like the 65 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,479 six and seven off the Illinois bench. Now that they're 66 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:19,080 healthy with big Z the other Ivasich and also Ben 67 00:03:19,159 --> 00:03:22,199 humrikous guys who are veteran guys who can score, guys 68 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,960 who can defend, I think they've got a little bit 69 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,879 of an edge there. The Ohio State advantage, obviously is 70 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,759 the home floor for their season home opener. They did 71 00:03:30,759 --> 00:03:33,360 play Northwestern as a Big Ten opener, but that was 72 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,120 on the road. Got that victory, as I mentioned, with 73 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:41,840 Tilly playing some limited minutes, But schedule wise, the advantage 74 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,199 in scheduling has to go to Illinois. They have been 75 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,680 through the riggers and they've been through it with injuries. Right, 76 00:03:46,759 --> 00:03:49,599 they finally come around to being fully healthy, but they 77 00:03:49,639 --> 00:03:56,840 went through some very very tough games Texas Tech, Alabama, Yukon, Tennessee. 78 00:03:56,919 --> 00:03:59,439 You can't get a better four than that to play, 79 00:03:59,439 --> 00:04:01,400 so they're ready for Ohio State. Ohio State has not 80 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,159 really done the same guys, and I wonder They've got 81 00:04:04,199 --> 00:04:08,000 some very very gaudy offensive statistics number one in the 82 00:04:08,039 --> 00:04:11,960 country in two point percentage, but you have to wonder 83 00:04:12,479 --> 00:04:15,360 if the schedule hasn't helped and contributed to that. I mean, 84 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,879 they've played Notre Dame Pittsburgh and Northwestern. That's the best 85 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,720 of the best that they face so far. Otherwise not much, 86 00:04:22,759 --> 00:04:26,920 and they haven't played real potent offenses like the Illinois 87 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,199 one an IU Indy scored one hundred and two against them, 88 00:04:30,879 --> 00:04:34,319 come back give up eighty two to Northwestern. So when 89 00:04:34,319 --> 00:04:37,120 they played teams that can score, it hasn't been great defensively. 90 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:42,199 That's where I kind of tried to separate this game 91 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,399 from a total perspective and let me just go back 92 00:04:44,439 --> 00:04:47,839 here where total is concerned and say this, this total 93 00:04:47,879 --> 00:04:51,680 started at one fifty five. If you go through Illinois games, 94 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,680 you're gonna find out that Illinois is an under team 95 00:04:55,759 --> 00:04:58,279 all season long, right, seven and two to the under. 96 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,240 But they were six and three over this number of 97 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,720 one fifty five where the game open. Thus we see 98 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,639 a push to one sixty. I think the money was right. 99 00:05:08,959 --> 00:05:11,879 Illinois has been playing games over one fifty five, and 100 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,959 now at this current number, the ALIGNI as a team 101 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,040 five to three and one over the number. It's hard 102 00:05:18,079 --> 00:05:21,560 to see anything, guys, other than an up and down 103 00:05:21,639 --> 00:05:26,079 offensive game. However, you put it into context conference basketball. 104 00:05:26,759 --> 00:05:29,079 I tend to think this is just general theory on 105 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,360 my part. Early season conference games a little more wide open. 106 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,240 We get to late January, early February, mid February, everything 107 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,160 tightens up defensively. I took a look at the Ohio 108 00:05:40,199 --> 00:05:43,800 State team total. It was seventy nine and a half. 109 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,480 Potentially they could get over that. I looked at the 110 00:05:47,519 --> 00:05:49,600 full game total because I don't know if I trust 111 00:05:49,639 --> 00:05:53,000 Ohio State's defense against this offense. Didn't come up with 112 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,759 anything either way. I think Illinois is the better team. 113 00:05:56,079 --> 00:05:58,680 In quick summary, I think they're the better team. I'm 114 00:05:58,759 --> 00:06:01,920 not sure that I would lay this total, probably land 115 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,839 somewhere around where it's posted right now. Was one sixty 116 00:06:05,879 --> 00:06:09,600 eight in the Ohio State Northwestern game, eighty six, eighty 117 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,279 two could get free throws down the stretch, et cetera. 118 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,120 But man, what a matchup guys, I mean, player for player, 119 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,560 and I won't go through all the accolades for these 120 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,319 guys so far this season, but there are some very 121 00:06:20,439 --> 00:06:25,000 very highly rated statistical numbers on both sides of this matchup. 122 00:06:28,199 --> 00:06:28,959 Speaker 3: I'm conflicted. 123 00:06:29,519 --> 00:06:32,879 Speaker 5: I think Rob makes a lot of good points, but 124 00:06:32,959 --> 00:06:36,920 my power ratings say that perhaps we should be considering 125 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,399 the home dog, which I often matchups such as this 126 00:06:40,519 --> 00:06:44,120 and conference play often gravitate towards anyway. 127 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 3: Market, though, doesn't seem to agree with that. 128 00:06:48,199 --> 00:06:51,399 Speaker 5: We're seeing some Illinois money's coming on Illinois early, and 129 00:06:52,079 --> 00:06:55,399 generally speaking, well, nothing is one hundred percent in life. 130 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:01,360 When the market in these competitive matchups triggering ron has 131 00:07:02,399 --> 00:07:05,160 made a decision, it's often been right this season so far, 132 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,319 at least it feels that way. I do not have 133 00:07:07,879 --> 00:07:10,079 any numbers to back me up here on that, but 134 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,560 it feels like these games we talk about like, Wow, 135 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,000 the market really likes the favorite, and then the favorite 136 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:20,680 covers every number. Ohio State should be undefeated coming into 137 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,519 this game. Their only loss was to pit and they 138 00:07:23,519 --> 00:07:27,800 threw that one away late. But Rob you know, made 139 00:07:27,839 --> 00:07:30,399 a good point. The salient point. Illinois has played the 140 00:07:30,399 --> 00:07:33,120 tougher schedule over all. There two and two against not 141 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,720 that they played, I mean playing four what four non 142 00:07:35,759 --> 00:07:39,800 conference ranked non conference opponents, let me spit that out. 143 00:07:39,839 --> 00:07:42,000 They go two and two straight up. I think Ohio 144 00:07:42,079 --> 00:07:45,160 State is a borderline top twenty five team right now, 145 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,680 So I have a again power ratings wise, I had 146 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,040 a slight lean towards the dog. 147 00:07:53,839 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: Although I don't feel great about it. 148 00:07:56,079 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 5: I do because I would concur with mister Veno that 149 00:07:59,519 --> 00:08:02,040 Illinois is the better team here. I mean, Illinois obviously 150 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,000 is a top fifteen team in the power rates. 151 00:08:05,839 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think these two teams are that close 152 00:08:09,079 --> 00:08:12,199 in terms of like, I think Illinois is far superior. 153 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,079 I kind of wish like if I I'll backtrack a 154 00:08:16,079 --> 00:08:19,160 little bit, like Ohio State was impressive over the weekend. 155 00:08:19,199 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: That was a good win for them at Northwestern. 156 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,639 Speaker 2: They kind of like that. They did impress me in 157 00:08:23,639 --> 00:08:26,480 that game. If had I not seen that, I would 158 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,079 have probably been like, oh, Illinois minus three is a layup. 159 00:08:29,399 --> 00:08:33,480 But what puts me off of wanting to lay three 160 00:08:33,519 --> 00:08:35,320 on the road with Illinois here a little bit is 161 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,360 the spot. So Illinois went to Nashville this weekend, and 162 00:08:39,759 --> 00:08:42,080 part of the reason I didn't play Illinois this weekend 163 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,960 in Nashville against Tennessee was I said, Okay, well, Tennessee's 164 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,039 lost back to that game, maybe Illinois might be looking 165 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,440 ahead a little bit to this game. 166 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:50,919 Speaker 1: They clearly weren't. 167 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 2: They dominated that game against Tennessee one by thirteen. Now 168 00:08:55,399 --> 00:08:58,039 I'm like, okay, maybe they're looking a little ahead a 169 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,399 little bit to the weekend. Nebraska is ranked, so that's 170 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,440 gonna be another league game for Illinois which they host 171 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,559 this weekend. They host Nebraska in a Big Ten game 172 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,240 this weekend, so maybe Illinois doesn't get their full attention, 173 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,639 which they definitely deserve as Illinois or I'm sorry Ohio State, 174 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:18,039 as Ohio State has played better. 175 00:09:18,639 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: Ultimately, I'll go to the total. 176 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,639 Speaker 2: I feel like I can, you know, after Kansas State 177 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,559 scored a trillion points yesterday, I can throw my opinion 178 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,960 on totals out a little bit. I think Illinois will 179 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,799 hit their team total over because I don't know that 180 00:09:33,919 --> 00:09:36,320 I don't know that Ohio State can really stop them 181 00:09:36,639 --> 00:09:38,759 in what they want to do offensively. I don't know 182 00:09:38,799 --> 00:09:41,399 that Ohio State's got the answer to be able to 183 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,840 just get stop after stop to Illinois and keep them 184 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,120 off of their team total. I think if Ohio State 185 00:09:47,159 --> 00:09:49,519 wants to cover or win this game, they're gonna have 186 00:09:49,519 --> 00:09:51,440 to kind of do what Rob said and score some points. 187 00:09:52,039 --> 00:09:55,799 It's why that total is massive, up over one sixties. 188 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,399 It's a big number. So I don't know if I 189 00:09:57,399 --> 00:09:59,279 want to go full game total and worry about one 190 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,200 of them not getting But to me, I don't know 191 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,559 that Ohio State gets enough stops to not have Illinois. 192 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: Hit their team total over So that's the way I 193 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:08,519 would play this one. 194 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I would say real quick, Adam, just to 195 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,320 add to what you said, I bet Northwestern on Saturday 196 00:10:15,039 --> 00:10:18,759 and I lost because Ohio State was that good. But 197 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,679 I'll just reiterate, I don't know what their defense really 198 00:10:21,759 --> 00:10:23,639 is at this point in time. I know Illinois is 199 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:29,960 a superior offense, and I'll look to your opinion on this, Adam. 200 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,600 It's my opinion that so far this year, and it's 201 00:10:33,639 --> 00:10:38,200 been against lesser competition than Illinois. Christopher Tilley was a 202 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,320 dominant center at Santa Clara. I don't see the same 203 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,120 dominance here in the Big Ten so far. The one 204 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,000 good thing about him is he's getting to the free 205 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,799 throw line a ton and he's like an eighty plus 206 00:10:48,879 --> 00:10:51,080 percent free throw shooter. But here he's going to be 207 00:10:51,159 --> 00:10:54,159 matched with seven footers that I don't know he's going 208 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,240 to be that big of a difference maker here. So 209 00:10:56,519 --> 00:10:58,960 on paper, like I said earlier, these five on five 210 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,639 matchups He's Man TOAMA matchups to start the game look 211 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,320 really really nice. But there's some spots where I could 212 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,440 see Illinois taking advantage as well. I don't know that 213 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,360 Thornton's that good of a defensive guard. I don't know 214 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,080 that Tilly's been that great in the Big ten. We're 215 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,639 gonna find out, though, we'll see tonight. But on Tilly, 216 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,639 I don't know, do you see any difference in him? 217 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,799 He's a big fish in a little fish in a 218 00:11:18,799 --> 00:11:20,039 big pond. Now really. 219 00:11:22,639 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I again, I don't think there's gonna be enough 220 00:11:26,639 --> 00:11:29,519 rim resistance from him and from Ohio State to keep 221 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,919 Illinois off of off of the scoreboard to the extent 222 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,279 that you would need to to not have them hit 223 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,440 the team total. So yeah, I'm I think Illinois is 224 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,000 gonna score here. Sorry, Brian, are you gonna add something there? 225 00:11:41,639 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, they keep taking money. The number is up to 226 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:50,080 five now harberplus is on the ALIONI so they continue 227 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,200 to take money. I mean again, the market seems to 228 00:11:53,279 --> 00:11:55,759 have I don't know. We talk about that. Lines move 229 00:11:55,799 --> 00:12:00,159 a lot while we're doing the show live. Sometimes it's 230 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,200 a trick, sometimes it's the real deal. But right as 231 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,120 of right now, the market seems to have made a decision. 232 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,120 I don't know if this like got a lot. 233 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. 234 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 5: I'll get when I there's a discrepancy here of several 235 00:12:12,759 --> 00:12:14,240 points in my power rating, So I don't know. You 236 00:12:14,279 --> 00:12:16,120 guys made a lot of great points, and like I said, 237 00:12:16,159 --> 00:12:17,000 I agree with you that. 238 00:12:17,039 --> 00:12:19,039 Speaker 3: ILLOI is the better team. So I'll have to just 239 00:12:19,039 --> 00:12:21,120 dig into that a little bit more, I guess, but there. 240 00:12:21,519 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 5: I mean, if it keeps going up, we say this 241 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,279 a lot, I may have to make a you know, 242 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,480 a decision just based on the number and take Ohio 243 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,360 State Rob. 244 00:12:30,399 --> 00:12:31,799 Speaker 1: It's a very interesting point though. 245 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: It's it's very similar like we talked about Zavi and 246 00:12:34,159 --> 00:12:37,679 Lee yesterday, Like guys that that play, you know, they 247 00:12:37,759 --> 00:12:40,799 they've had success at the mid major level and now 248 00:12:40,799 --> 00:12:43,279 they sort of get thrust into a big role in 249 00:12:43,639 --> 00:12:47,039 a power conference. And it's a case by case basis. 250 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,159 Sometimes you see a guy just blow up and thrive 251 00:12:50,279 --> 00:12:53,679 and and they're incredible. Sometimes they're they're outclassed, and it's 252 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,000 a it's absolutely something that you should have your eye 253 00:12:56,039 --> 00:12:59,559 on as the season goes on, because now we're starting 254 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,639 to get a ample for some of like some of 255 00:13:01,639 --> 00:13:03,559 the guys in year one. That's why I tend to 256 00:13:03,639 --> 00:13:06,159 like guys in year two after they move up, Like 257 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,159 those are the guys I circle back with and say, oh, 258 00:13:08,159 --> 00:13:11,639 this roster has some year two guys second year at 259 00:13:11,639 --> 00:13:14,120 their big program, because year one can be tough. It's 260 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,159 it's an it's an adjustment, especially when you get to 261 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,759 conference play and now every game is against Ohio State. 262 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,559 You know, big, big schools, big that have size and athleticism. 263 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,320 I'll touch on this one quick and then we'll probably 264 00:13:27,399 --> 00:13:30,320 go to one of the other big ones. But we 265 00:13:30,399 --> 00:13:34,240 have a question here about Columbia, and wow, I can't 266 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,799 win money. Asked if they had to like squint and 267 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,679 get close to my screen to just read that need contacts. 268 00:13:40,799 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: I've never worn contacts before. 269 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: My eyes don't like them, so and I'm not gonna 270 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,919 come on here with glasses. So if you see me squinting, 271 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,759 I'm trying to read. I'm trying to read comments. But 272 00:13:50,799 --> 00:13:54,159 wants to talk about Columbia and Stony Brook. Yeah, Brian, uh, 273 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,000 that'll be That's that's me looking at the screen. Columbia Stonybrook. 274 00:13:58,039 --> 00:14:01,159 This one is out on Long Island, Stony Brook, way 275 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,759 up the island. It's out like I think Suffolk County 276 00:14:05,879 --> 00:14:08,200 out there. Columbia is gonna head up there from the 277 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,559 city tonight. He wants to know if Columbia covers, I 278 00:14:11,639 --> 00:14:14,240 don't see any good reason why they wouldn't. 279 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: This got bet up from three. 280 00:14:15,919 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: To four and a half. Columbia very reminiscent of last 281 00:14:19,639 --> 00:14:22,759 year where they just blasted everyone. They played in the 282 00:14:22,799 --> 00:14:25,000 non conference. We'll see if they get and then they 283 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,519 got an IVY competition without Rubio Dela Rosa and Tank. 284 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,080 They were the worst team in the IVY after going 285 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,399 like ten and one or eleven and one non conference. 286 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,840 Their only loss of the season, Brian Power is to Yukon. 287 00:14:37,399 --> 00:14:42,120 They have crushed everyone else in this sort of we 288 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,639 use the term weight class on the show. New Haven 289 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:50,919 U Mass Lowell bought b U Lehigh, Longwood, Fairfield, Hofstra. 290 00:14:51,039 --> 00:14:52,519 They got a close swim, but that's a good win 291 00:14:52,559 --> 00:14:54,639 for them. Hosts playing up a little bit, and then 292 00:14:54,679 --> 00:14:58,120 over the weekend buried Albany. I don't like this stony 293 00:14:58,159 --> 00:15:00,440 Brook team. I've talked about it a couple times the show. 294 00:15:00,519 --> 00:15:02,919 I could only lay it with the Lions here. Anyone 295 00:15:03,039 --> 00:15:05,000 had anything on Columbia stony Brook. 296 00:15:05,399 --> 00:15:05,799 Speaker 4: I agree. 297 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,919 Speaker 5: I was interested to hear your take on that trick 298 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,039 because I was kind of leaning Columbia's way too interesting game. 299 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,120 I mean, these two teams combined have been a couple 300 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,519 of cash cows. They're what thirteen to two and one 301 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,360 against the numbers. So if you've been betting these either 302 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,440 of these two teams, you've been making money. But I 303 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,639 looked at the Stony Brooks side. Here, guys, they've covered 304 00:15:24,879 --> 00:15:29,519 three in a row as underdogs, winning outright twice against 305 00:15:29,519 --> 00:15:33,399 Petune Cookman and Loyola Merrimount. They lost in Ukine last 306 00:15:33,399 --> 00:15:36,480 time I covered. But I mean four covers in a 307 00:15:36,559 --> 00:15:40,960 row as a dog, Rob, I don't, I don't think so. 308 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,879 Speaker 3: I think they run ends for Stony brook. 309 00:15:43,759 --> 00:15:45,559 Speaker 2: I have a question for Rob and he gets so 310 00:15:45,879 --> 00:15:49,080 Rob this Columbia's coaches is one of the Florida assistants. 311 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,279 Speaker 1: His name is escaping me. 312 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 2: But ever since so Bedrie, one of their bigs went down, 313 00:15:56,639 --> 00:16:00,200 like after the Lehigh game, like back in mid November, 314 00:16:00,679 --> 00:16:04,200 and it almost seems like like they play bet like 315 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:05,440 they play the style. 316 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 4: I think it's. 317 00:16:06,159 --> 00:16:08,039 Speaker 1: Hove Hovda Kevin. 318 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 319 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,639 Speaker 1: I don't, can't pronounce his name. Horrible with names. 320 00:16:11,759 --> 00:16:14,159 Speaker 2: But the point is, like I think people might look 321 00:16:14,159 --> 00:16:16,240 at that injury and say, oh, well they're missing. 322 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: Like he's a twelveth you know, a double digital game score. 323 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,639 Speaker 2: But like they've almost arguably been better the five games 324 00:16:23,639 --> 00:16:25,519 without him. I mean all I caught some of the 325 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,399 Albany game over the weekend, just trashed Albany. 326 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:28,639 Speaker 1: Nothing. 327 00:16:28,679 --> 00:16:30,519 Speaker 2: I like to see more as a Siana guy than 328 00:16:30,559 --> 00:16:33,200 Albady just getting their teeth kicked in. But hey, I 329 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,799 mean this Columbia team, they're really impressive, and I have 330 00:16:35,879 --> 00:16:40,679 the feeling that Hobda might have them, might have them 331 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,759 competitive in the IVY as early as this year. 332 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,519 Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna go to the other side of this game, 333 00:16:46,559 --> 00:16:49,159 guys and just talk total real quick. Seventy five and 334 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,120 a half is in Colombia's wheelhouse for a team total. 335 00:16:52,279 --> 00:16:56,919 And you watched the Albany game, Adam. I've said before. 336 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,519 I was in Connecticut for Thanksgiving with family and on 337 00:16:59,759 --> 00:17:02,639 that Wednesday they played Fairfield. We talked about it. I 338 00:17:02,679 --> 00:17:05,759 watched that Fairfield game. They ran off one hundred and 339 00:17:05,759 --> 00:17:07,480 six points. Rattle off one hundred and six points in 340 00:17:07,519 --> 00:17:09,440 that game like it was nothing. You know, Colombia is 341 00:17:09,519 --> 00:17:17,039 not extremely fast tempo wise, but man, they make shots. 342 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,319 And I don't you know, when you go through Stony 343 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,880 Brooks results, you'll find out that even though Gino Ford 344 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,480 has a history of playing slow, they've given up eighty 345 00:17:25,519 --> 00:17:29,079 plus to teams that have that capability. And I saw 346 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,839 this seventy five and a half and this could end 347 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,279 up being my leg of the teaser here because I 348 00:17:33,319 --> 00:17:35,799 bet it personally myself early this morning. But seventy five 349 00:17:35,839 --> 00:17:38,480 and a half just seems way way too low for 350 00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:41,799 a team that has eighty plus written all over them. 351 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,240 Every time they take to floorid to gym, win or lose, 352 00:17:44,599 --> 00:17:46,519 because if they're playing a better teams they'll probably give 353 00:17:46,599 --> 00:17:49,279 up the points. But there it just looks to me 354 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,839 like they're always going to score. So seventy five and 355 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,039 a half just seem like a very very low number. 356 00:17:54,079 --> 00:17:57,119 Maybe attributed a lot to the style of play of 357 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,240 Stony Brook. That's why the total is full game where 358 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:00,519 it is. 359 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,039 Speaker 2: Well, Rob that makes a lot of sense too, because 360 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,519 you know you take so so you take the six' 361 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:11,880 ten Xene Eden drii off the floor and like Suddenly 362 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,279 colombia is, quicker they handle the ball. Better so it's, 363 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,720 like even though he's he's the type of, guy it's 364 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,200 a little bit reminiscent Of colgate the last couple of 365 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,279 years when they Had Jeff, woodward who is who is 366 00:18:23,319 --> 00:18:25,440 seven feet, tall and it's, like that's the type of 367 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,000 guy you have to have him on YOUR i, mean 368 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,559 if you if you can get a guy like that 369 00:18:29,079 --> 00:18:32,119 and you play in The Patriot, league having that guy 370 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,319 is gonna win you so many league, games, right same 371 00:18:34,319 --> 00:18:36,039 thing as THE, Ivy like you can throw a six 372 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,200 to ten guy that can can you, know just be 373 00:18:39,319 --> 00:18:41,680 bigger than like a lot of the other teams in your. 374 00:18:41,759 --> 00:18:44,960 League it's it's gonna win you some. Games but they've 375 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,039 been much more impressive since he hasn't been on the. 376 00:18:47,079 --> 00:18:50,359 Floor AND i think it's just allowing you, Know columbia 377 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,960 to play maybe the way that they're meant to play 378 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,480 with this, group with this coaching, staff with this. Style 379 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,640 SO i couldn't argue WITH i think you have a 380 00:18:58,640 --> 00:18:59,599 good bet there Up. 381 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 5: And that's WHAT i always like that because you, Know, 382 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,240 trigg you AND I i don't really like to lay 383 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:06,720 points on the. ROAD i KNOW i you KNOW i 384 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,400 don't want to put words in your. MOUTH i know 385 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,359 THAT i generally don't like to do. That so the 386 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,759 team total over might be a more appealing way for 387 00:19:12,799 --> 00:19:15,920 those of you who feel similarly. 388 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 3: And by the way see a lot of new people 389 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:19,559 in the, chat a lot of new. 390 00:19:19,599 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 5: Members thank you very thank you very much for tuning 391 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,519 in here to full core Pressed. Minder we are live 392 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:31,200 Every monday Through, friday TEN a And. EASTERN i saw 393 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,160 by you is in the, chat and boy did you? 394 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,640 KNOW i was wondering if anyone else thought the same 395 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:42,920 way on THAT usc well In diego, game and he 396 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,359 apparently does because oh, Yeah Jenny craig herself will be in. 397 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,640 ATTENDANT i don't know if that's, true but look trag we, 398 00:19:54,079 --> 00:19:57,079 yeah uh you AND i tried With San diego On 399 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:01,759 friday night that was not. Good for lack of a better, 400 00:20:01,839 --> 00:20:07,519 WORK usc off its first loss, though going to The 401 00:20:07,599 --> 00:20:12,839 Jenny Craig, pavilion this would Be terrero's or pass for, 402 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,960 ME i, LOOKED i, MEAN i really want, to BUT 403 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,400 i thought we had a strong case On friday with, 404 00:20:19,519 --> 00:20:22,279 them and boy did they come out and play, like 405 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,400 for lack of a better, term absolute. Ass SO i don't, 406 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,640 know are they just a bad? TEAM i, mean because 407 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,079 it seems like they're you, know first loss FOR. Usc 408 00:20:32,519 --> 00:20:34,599 it seems like there's kind of the inevitable. LETDOWN i don't, 409 00:20:34,599 --> 00:20:35,400 know it's dogg. 410 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:40,079 Speaker 2: Or pass they take, Horrible like they have these laps as. 411 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,799 Offensively so the thing, is it's like they have some good, 412 00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:46,160 Players LIKE i, WAS i was intrigued with their, roster 413 00:20:46,319 --> 00:20:49,119 like they have some some decent, players but they have 414 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,839 now had a couple of games where they just they 415 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,559 they're like they are they going To Jalen. Hurtzmoe they 416 00:20:55,599 --> 00:20:57,480 just start throwing it to the other, team, Right they 417 00:20:57,599 --> 00:21:01,720 just they go completely brain down. Offensively some of the 418 00:21:01,759 --> 00:21:04,599 shots in that game Against San Jose state were so, 419 00:21:04,839 --> 00:21:10,720 bad like just literal clueless thirty second possessions that ended 420 00:21:10,839 --> 00:21:13,880 in a, heave like not even like oh it's late 421 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,759 and it's a shot, clock let's get a. Jumper it 422 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,400 was like we got to heave it up because we 423 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:22,200 took thirty seconds and somehow managed to get forty feet 424 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:23,839 away from the who it. 425 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 4: Was it was. 426 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 2: Awful and they did the same thing in the second 427 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,119 half against Cal, baptist And i'm just starting to, think 428 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,240 like they're just not a TEAM i want any part 429 00:21:32,279 --> 00:21:37,200 of because they have some indidividual talent where it's, like you, 430 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,400 know they theoretically like they should be better than what 431 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:40,960 we saw On. 432 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,519 Speaker 1: Friday then and you go back to the Cal baptis. 433 00:21:43,559 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: Game they had a nine point lead in that game 434 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,880 before they went brain, dead so they clearly know what 435 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:53,759 they're doing a little. Bit but, YEAH i after watching 436 00:21:53,759 --> 00:21:57,119 them a couple of, times like and really, LIKE i don't. 437 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,839 Speaker 1: Know IF i could back them. Again it's. 438 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 2: Tough and of course here they'll cover tonight BECAUSE i 439 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,839 said THAT i won't be on, them and then they'll 440 00:22:02,839 --> 00:22:05,000 probably probably come out and push THE usc to the 441 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,359 brink somehow at The Jenny Crank. 442 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,039 Speaker 5: Pavilion a phenomenal, facility by the, way it's nice as 443 00:22:11,079 --> 00:22:12,400 a facility as you'll fight in college. 444 00:22:12,519 --> 00:22:15,759 Speaker 2: BASKETBALL i do think rob like this is like one 445 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,160 one of a couple of games where it's kind of 446 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,599 like a weird, Spot like it's a NATIONAL tv game 447 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,039 FOR usc where they're like going on the. Road it's, 448 00:22:25,079 --> 00:22:27,640 like definitely should be a tough. Environment you have to 449 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,559 think that if if If San diego kids were going 450 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,839 to lead the beach and come to one game this, 451 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,000 year probably BE usc on their home, Floor like what 452 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:36,759 do you make of of? 453 00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:38,839 Speaker 1: This? That like that's interesting to. 454 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,319 Speaker 4: Me, Yeah and the first thing was to just see 455 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,559 If Rodney rice is going to play, tonight, guys he's. 456 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,759 Questionable he's missed the last. Three it hasn't totally AFFECTED usc. 457 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,279 Offense and this has been a high scoring team all season. 458 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,599 Long and If San diego is going to be, close 459 00:22:55,599 --> 00:22:58,880 they're going to have to score two because They you, 460 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,319 know it's interesting when you go through tempo numbers Of Steve, 461 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,440 lavin who has played at breakneck pace with this team 462 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,160 in the last couple of. Years he's tried to slow 463 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,200 them down somewhat this, year and the defense has gotten. 464 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,559 Worse there are just the defensive numbers are worse than 465 00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:16,440 they've been in the last three. Years you have to 466 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,279 expect THE. Usc of, Course i'm always drunk to. Totals 467 00:23:19,319 --> 00:23:22,000 my first option, was let me just see USC's off the. 468 00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:24,400 Loss let's go to their team. Total the team total 469 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,559 here as we, speak, guys is eighty six and a, 470 00:23:26,559 --> 00:23:28,920 half up to eighty, seven now even eighty seven and a. 471 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,319 Half so it's taking money on THE usc, SIDE i 472 00:23:31,319 --> 00:23:33,799 can understand. IT i don't know if that concurs with 473 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,680 maybe somebody knowing That rice is going to be in 474 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,680 the lineup or. Not but LIKE i, say they still 475 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,839 have scored eighty plus in two of the three where 476 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,960 he hasn't been. Present one was Against Arizona. State Bobby 477 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:51,160 hurley's team not necessarily rapid, paced but they can go quick. 478 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,119 TOO i just Think musselman's got a really good offensive 479 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,240 team this. YEAR i don't, know he's kind of defensive, 480 00:23:57,279 --> 00:23:59,200 minded but it seems like he's got the opposite and 481 00:23:59,279 --> 00:24:03,359 way of. Talent you, know Whether San diego covers or, 482 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,880 NOT i just think it's gonna be a high scoring. 483 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,559 Speaker 2: GAME i can't disagree with you there. Either that That's 484 00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:12,640 South San diego. Defense also On friday was, abysmal just. 485 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:20,400 Abysmal they wanted. Wasn't, Yeah i'll point out one other 486 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,640 thing With San, diego like even even the fact that 487 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,599 they had a nine point lead against Cal baptist is 488 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,720 a little bit flawed because that was the Game Dominique 489 00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:29,079 daniels got in trouble for something that we don't know 490 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,079 what he, did but he Got he just didn't play. 491 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: That he was a late scratch right before that. 492 00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 2: GAME i believe some discipline think he broke a team 493 00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:40,119 rule or something like along those. Lines And Dominique, daniels 494 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,240 you take him off Cal, baptist that's a totally different. 495 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,440 Team so you almost have to like discredit them even 496 00:24:46,559 --> 00:24:48,599 and of course they ended up losing the game by, fifteen, 497 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,880 like so it's not even like they had a good. 498 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,960 Result they just had a good result for like thirty. Minutes, 499 00:24:53,039 --> 00:24:55,559 yeah it's gonna glad Bry. By you bought that brought 500 00:24:55,559 --> 00:24:57,599 that one up because IT'S i looked at the, SCHEDULE i, 501 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,960 said wait a, Minute San diego's on a national. Team 502 00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:03,359 you with the home game AGAINST usc definitely. Interesting don't 503 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,039 know IF i could could get. Involved all, right this 504 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,759 one people want to talk about because it's going to 505 00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:12,160 be a state it's a standalone. Game rothstein will have 506 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,920 the standalone tweet out at some point today WITH unbc 507 00:25:16,039 --> 00:25:19,000 In buffalo playing a five pm, tip the ONLY i 508 00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:21,920 believe five pm tip on the slate, today and there's 509 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,240 like quite a few people in the chat asking about. 510 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,960 It so this Is i'll kick this one off and just, 511 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,519 say Like, BRIAN i you know you AND i kind 512 00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:34,960 of like maybe maybe talked down to The Buffalo bulls 513 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,200 a little bit earlier this. YEAR i believe we kind 514 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,720 of both pointed out like we may have even gone 515 00:25:40,759 --> 00:25:43,119 as far as to use the term, fraud which may 516 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:43,599 have been a little. 517 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: HARSH i think they've been pretty good to this. Point but. 518 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,799 Speaker 2: They, go they they and you know, WHAT i watched 519 00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:51,559 a lot of their game Against Saint bonaventure over the, 520 00:25:51,559 --> 00:25:53,559 weekend and they were. Good LIKE i, thought they played 521 00:25:53,559 --> 00:25:56,039 well in that. Game they ended up not, covering but 522 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,359 it was it was a hard fought. Loss they've got 523 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,319 to go down To baltimore today to PLAY, unbc a 524 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,000 team THAT i think is as scrappy as an. Underdog 525 00:26:06,759 --> 00:26:09,400 do you Think buffalo isn't a tough spot on the road? 526 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: Here five? Pm? 527 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,279 Speaker 3: Tip, YEAH i THINK i THINK unbc is live. 528 00:26:13,319 --> 00:26:17,039 Speaker 5: Here, Still i'm still not convinced Buff, look you, know 529 00:26:17,079 --> 00:26:22,240 the number of unbeatens we has dwindled precipitously over the last. 530 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,480 Week AND i was at no, point even Though buffalo 531 00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:28,200 proved us wrong that one game Against Wright state where 532 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,799 they absolutely went berserk in the second half trig at 533 00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:34,880 no point DID i not think That buffalo is still 534 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,880 the weakest unbeaten team left in college. Basketball we talked 535 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,359 about WITH usc coming off its first, loss how do they. 536 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,440 Respond they're taking on A San diego team that you, 537 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,720 know obviously hasn't played well two of the last three, 538 00:26:46,759 --> 00:26:50,799 games and so there was some back and forth there. 539 00:26:50,839 --> 00:26:53,599 HERE i think unbc's live to win this. GAME i 540 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,720 would actually consider just PLAYING unbc on the money, line 541 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,799 which it looks, like quite, frankly is a bet that 542 00:26:59,839 --> 00:27:05,480 our chat hates, Disagree So i'll BE i guess that's 543 00:27:05,519 --> 00:27:07,279 not gonna go. Over, Well i've seen a lot OF 544 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,480 i Like buffalo in this. GAME i, apologize, GUYS i 545 00:27:11,599 --> 00:27:14,759 would go the other way WITH. UMBC i Think buffalo 546 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,640 nowhere near as good as its. 547 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 4: Record yeah the other, Dare, oh go, ahead, Right i'll 548 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:27,359 just go one matchup. Here fundamentally that could decide a 549 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,680 game that's priced in this price. Range buffalo three point 550 00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:34,160 shooting has been outstanding this. YEAR unbc three point defense 551 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,000 has been. MISERABLE i also find, it you, KNOW i 552 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,319 just talked About Steve lavin slowing things. Down just a 553 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:45,960 quick look At Jim ferri's tenure here AT, unbc and 554 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,319 he has slowed this team down. Considerably And i'm so 555 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,480 used to WATCHING unbc as an up and down pace, 556 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,559 team but not necessarily the case here this. Year buffalo 557 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,880 statistically the better shooting, team but you have to be. 558 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,960 IMPRESSED i will say. This The georgetown And. Dayton results 559 00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:06,839 From Maryland Baltimore county are pretty. Impressive not That dayton's you, 560 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,240 Know Anthony, grant you, know prime, type prime type of. 561 00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:15,319 Team but Still georgetown's really good this. Year they played them, Close, 562 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,119 dayton they played them close here at. Home it's hard 563 00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:21,680 for me to pick the side, here BUT i do 564 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,720 think if it comes down to three point, Shap buffalo 565 00:28:23,839 --> 00:28:25,920 going on the road and making shots is always one 566 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,759 of the biggest things that you can't, handicap very very 567 00:28:29,759 --> 00:28:32,359 difficult to. Handicap but if it holds true to, Form 568 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,599 buffalo would probably win this. 569 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 2: Game, YEAH i. Am i'm so tempted to just take 570 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,519 the two and a. Half So i'll be, honest, like 571 00:28:43,559 --> 00:28:44,920 this is gonna be a, play this is gonna be 572 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,920 my Parlay, lake just the chat's gonna. BE i WAS 573 00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:53,279 i make YOU nbc a two and a half point favorite, here. 574 00:28:53,359 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 3: SO i was just double. 575 00:28:55,079 --> 00:28:57,359 Speaker 5: Checking, YEAH i got them as a slight favorite, too 576 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,480 not quite two and a, half but one and a 577 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,480 half to make up. 578 00:29:00,359 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: Two and a. 579 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 2: HALF i wanted, TO i GUESS i wanted to see 580 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,720 like what the market was gonna do on this one 581 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,839 a little, bit and WHAT i thought they were gonna. 582 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 5: Do? 583 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: HAPPENED i Thought, Buffalo so it got beat down a little. 584 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,799 BIT i, said, okay Like buffalo's probably gonna take some. 585 00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:16,799 Money they you, know they come off the loss To 586 00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:17,960 Saint bonaventure where they looked. 587 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: Impressive but this is like so two. 588 00:29:20,279 --> 00:29:24,319 Speaker 2: THINGS unbc recently got one of their bigs, Back so 589 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,240 Josh oduwono did not play for a few. Games he's now, 590 00:29:28,279 --> 00:29:31,839 BACK i, mean since he returns pretty much a ten 591 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,880 plus point per game score each game since he's been. 592 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,720 Back you, know they still have Like Ace valentine's is 593 00:29:40,599 --> 00:29:43,160 should be filling it. Up i'm surprised he's only like 594 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,640 he's not averaging double. FIGURES i feel like he should 595 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,559 be like an easy double digit. 596 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: Scorer for this. TEAM i like this team as an. 597 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: Underdog, brian we were out on the road AND i, 598 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,880 said you, KNOW i wouldn't be surprised if they if 599 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,160 they hang With dayton today when we were sort of 600 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,759 driving around going to, games and they. Did they lost 601 00:29:59,799 --> 00:30:03,640 that game by. Six they hung around With. Georgetown where 602 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,400 this team is like WHERE i don't LIKE unbc is 603 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,240 when they're like laying points as like a big, favorite 604 00:30:09,319 --> 00:30:11,480 BECAUSE i feel like they'll give up points and they 605 00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:13,200 get back door it often and stuff like. 606 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: That but now that you're catching a key. 607 00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: Number of two and a, half because this one was 608 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,960 two when we got on, air and it even went 609 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,440 down to one and a. Half now that it's two 610 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,079 and a, Half i'm going to TAKE, Unbc So i'm 611 00:30:23,119 --> 00:30:24,720 going to add that for. Clients that's going to be 612 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,400 a three percenter for, me and that will also be 613 00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:31,839 my parlay. Leg SO i WAS i was optimistic hoping for. 614 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,599 Three it doesn't look like it's going to get to. 615 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,920 Three So i'm going to take the two and a. 616 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,480 Half that'll be parlay leg For. Trigg and by the. 617 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 4: WAY i got. 618 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,559 Speaker 3: CONFUSED i got confused. 619 00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 5: EARLIER i Got buffalo With butler, undefeated then, undefeated overrated teams, 620 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,960 confused BUT i mentioned A Wright state result that Was 621 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,880 butler that plays At, state Not. Bufo but you, know 622 00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:54,319 the point still SAYS i. GOT i don't Have buffalo 623 00:30:54,359 --> 00:30:56,839 in my top two hundred and twenty five teams in the. 624 00:30:56,839 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: Country you, know the one other THING i wrote out 625 00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:03,440 the other day THAT i was gonna start to look 626 00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:05,680 like maybe lean into spots a little bit more, so 627 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,160 it's no SECRET i have not had the best start 628 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,200 to college basketball. SEASON i did go too And oh 629 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,759 the other day and Think i'm going in the right direction. 630 00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:15,960 HOPEFULLY i mean it's only one. Day but WHAT i 631 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,920 wrote about WAS i want to. START i Think i've 632 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,200 been trusting some of my projections and my models a 633 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,880 little too much relative to like my number as to 634 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,039 WHAT i make. IT i want to lean into spots 635 00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:28,319 a little bit. More this is a bad spot For. 636 00:31:28,359 --> 00:31:31,039 Buffalo they just had that That bonnies game was a 637 00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:33,039 home game that was a, big big game for. Them 638 00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:35,599 they put a lot of effort into that. Game so 639 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,039 to have to turn around and go midweek road game 640 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,640 AT umbc and but In baltimore it's gonna kind of be. 641 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,440 Dead they never get a great crowd. There it's just 642 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,000 a bad spot For buffalo and ended up be laying 643 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,880 a bucket in a game THAT i THINK UNBC c 644 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,160 should be. Favored so, Yeah i'm gonna bet this ONE 645 00:31:53,319 --> 00:31:57,079 unbc plus two and a. Half let's let's let's go 646 00:31:57,079 --> 00:31:58,599 to one of the bigger. Games we were gonna Make 647 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,480 Clemson dyus sort of like a double. Feature so AS 648 00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:05,319 i fire this one, In brian kick us Off CLEMSON 649 00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:08,720 byu back to The. Garden like we said, yesterday we 650 00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:11,799 did the game, yesterday The Florida yukon game we did 651 00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:15,119 on yesterday's. Show go To Brian Powers twitter because he's 652 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,440 got it nicely posted there if you want to see 653 00:32:17,559 --> 00:32:20,960 the full breakdown of that, game the one before, It jimmy. 654 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,319 V Classic Madison Square Garden CLEMSON, Byu Brian, Power are 655 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,440 you playing this game at The garden? 656 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:32,519 Speaker 3: TONIGHT i don't THINK i. Will the question Is clemson? 657 00:32:33,119 --> 00:32:35,519 Defensively there are two losses this. 658 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 5: Year they gave up one point three one point one 659 00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:41,759 three points per, possession one point twenty five points per. 660 00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 3: Position that's not. GOOD i. KNOW i don't think. 661 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,039 Speaker 5: It's breaking news here to inform all of you watching 662 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,279 the program by you pretty good offensive, team you know 663 00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:55,480 the interesting you, know AS i did some AS i 664 00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:58,880 was kind of handicapping the game for the, show a 665 00:32:59,119 --> 00:33:02,400 weird kind of sidebar thought that's not applicable as game 666 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:07,039 came ON byu isn't particularly. DEEP i don't think that's 667 00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:09,319 gonna matter in the regular? Play is B what does? 668 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,599 Speaker 3: Like and Maybe i'm just getting out of myself and 669 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:13,799 just talking out of my, Ass. 670 00:33:13,559 --> 00:33:17,319 Speaker 5: But IS, byu maybe a lack of. Depth is this 671 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,559 a team that you would potentially think about fading in 672 00:33:20,599 --> 00:33:24,680 the second game in the, end second game of a 673 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,440 weekend in THE ncaa tournament. 674 00:33:26,279 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 3: Is the have you? 675 00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 5: Guys do you guys have any thoughts On, like look 676 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,920 the five? Start you know they had four starters re 677 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,039 averaging in double. Figures five guys were in double figures 678 00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:37,119 last Time all five starters were double figures last time. 679 00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:39,160 Off BUT i wanted to throw that to you, guys 680 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,640 because that was just the kind of SOMETHING i got 681 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:41,400 hung up on. 682 00:33:41,599 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 3: When breaking down this GAME. 683 00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:46,119 Speaker 5: Byu not a terribly a very talented, team a team 684 00:33:46,119 --> 00:33:48,079 that can, score but not the deepest. 685 00:33:48,079 --> 00:33:50,519 Speaker 3: Team, ROB i didn't know if you had any thoughts 686 00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:50,799 on that. 687 00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:55,279 Speaker 4: Yet you, know after handicapping the tournament for so many, Years, 688 00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:59,240 BRIAN i came to find out that depth is meaningless 689 00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:01,640 because of the sixth teen minute time, out twelve minute, 690 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,839 timeout eight minute time, out four minute. Timeout it's meaningless 691 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,159 unless there's foul. Trouble depth comes into play with foul. 692 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,320 Trouble if you've got to pull, somebody say if the 693 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,920 bets that gets into, trouble foul trouble first half. Two 694 00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:15,760 in the first eight, minutes you got to pull, them 695 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,679 put them on the. Bench then it's it's a big. 696 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,000 Deal If kada gets into foul. Trouble For, byu it's 697 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,920 a big. Deal so that's what you worry. About that's 698 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,559 impossible to handicap how the ref is going to blow the. 699 00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:32,840 Whistles SO i just you, know because there's so much 700 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,360 time in between in these four minute intervals where they 701 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,239 call time, out it's almost like a rest period for these. 702 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,760 Guys if they stay on the, floor depth has no 703 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,800 bearing if they're in foul trouble and the coach has 704 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,199 to sit them for six seven minutes because they can't 705 00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:50,840 trust to put them back. In And kata's probably the 706 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,800 best example of this right For byu such an active 707 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,400 big that you could almost see that happening against A 708 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,639 clemson team that's pretty. Rugged so that that's just my 709 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,159 take on. It probably that's HOW i look at. 710 00:35:03,199 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 5: It something that's, interesting was it The wisconsin game that 711 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,360 advanced was gotten to follow trouble AND i remember, thinking, 712 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,400 oh this could come. APART i think it was, RIGHT 713 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,079 i remember Watching i'm almost positive it was The wisconsin, 714 00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:18,000 game and Then wisconsin kind of went on a. Run i'm, like, oh, OH, 715 00:35:18,039 --> 00:35:19,519 b why us in? Trouble and THEN, b why you 716 00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:21,679 just blew them out of the. WATER i was, like 717 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:27,800 very very impressed with. That SO i don't know if 718 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,000 you have ANYTHING i don't. KNOW i don't know if 719 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,840 you have any thoughts about the the depth issue. 720 00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 3: Or or lack of it or what have. 721 00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 5: You but we probably should tell people about this, GAME i, 722 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,840 guess rather than me hijacking the. 723 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:44,679 Speaker 2: Conversation, NOW i, mean listen the the Like clemson's gonna 724 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,719 press B yu, Here so that's, certainly you, know it's 725 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:53,360 certainly like something relevant to the. CONVERSATION i guess my 726 00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:58,159 overwhelming thought about this game is it doesn't like it 727 00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:01,679 doesn't really matter What clemson does here because they just 728 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,079 don't have the athletes to hang WITH. Byu and as 729 00:36:05,159 --> 00:36:07,840 as long AS byu is not just like turning the 730 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,280 ball over fifteen to twenty times because they're they're trying, 731 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,800 to you, know Because clemson will pick up full court 732 00:36:14,119 --> 00:36:16,280 and they'll try to stop. Transition they're gonna try to 733 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,079 basically press them and then and then hope that they 734 00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:22,159 can't break the press or they they just break it 735 00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:24,800 and get into a half court. Offense problem is like 736 00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:29,440 the individual talent FOR byu probably wins, out like as 737 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,639 long as it would probably take twenty turnovers For clemson 738 00:36:32,679 --> 00:36:35,760 to win this game where they're just like FORCING byu 739 00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:38,960 into like mistake after. Mistake but, LIKE i think we've 740 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,559 seen enough OF byu against good opponents at this point 741 00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:44,239 where like that's probably not going to. Happen and then 742 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,400 you get THESE byu just individual freak shows up against 743 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,400 Like clemson in a half court situation or where they 744 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,920 can just sort of create or like you, know do 745 00:36:54,039 --> 00:36:57,960 something one on. ONE i don't know That clemson can stop. 746 00:36:58,039 --> 00:37:00,519 That so like THAT'S i Love Brad. Brown Now i've 747 00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:03,039 said this for. YEARS i think he's a year in 748 00:37:03,039 --> 00:37:05,199 a year, out the most underrated coach in THE acc 749 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,719 or one of. Them BUT i don't know that he 750 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:12,000 has the personnel to STOP eyu from just blowing his 751 00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:14,599 doors off right. Here so it's an interesting, game not 752 00:37:14,639 --> 00:37:15,679 What i'm going to have any part. 753 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 5: Of just a note because it seems like there may 754 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,840 be some some people in the chat may not be 755 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,559 a whare this game is being played AT msg it 756 00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:26,320 it's not a home game for B. YUI i saw 757 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,280 somebody say B yu at, all but this is AND 758 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,920 byu is obviously this is not their first rodeo out 759 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:33,840 on The East coast. 760 00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:36,039 Speaker 3: And the natural venue having Played yukon In. 761 00:37:36,119 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 4: Boston, yeah that's probably as big a point as anything 762 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,400 is that that Was De bansta's first real spotlight type 763 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,519 game and that's the game guys Where yukon pretty much 764 00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:53,760 had them wired And byu made that furious comeback at 765 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,679 the end of that game to make it into a 766 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,840 two point. GAME i would say this, Again i'll speak 767 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,159 From tota's perspective with the propensity Of clemson to you, 768 00:38:03,159 --> 00:38:07,679 know pick up full, court three quarter. Court Robert wright 769 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,639 is a guard who's been around the block more than, 770 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,599 enough played in enough of these games to Whereas adams, 771 00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:17,320 said twenty, turnovers it's just not likely these are guys 772 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,639 that thrive on that type of. Pace BYU's team total 773 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,679 you can find that as low as seventy seven and a. 774 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,239 HALF i, mean if you're gonna get these added possessions 775 00:38:26,559 --> 00:38:29,880 and you're gonna get this quickness type of, game you, 776 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,639 know the only thing that would stop me is if 777 00:38:32,679 --> 00:38:35,400 B whyu break suppressing and pulls it back. Out BUT 778 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,239 i just don't see them as a team that pulls 779 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,599 it back. Out and one of the overlook guys on this, 780 00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:43,199 Team Richie. Saunders you, know he can shoot over top 781 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,480 of any zone That brownell might try to mix in 782 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,960 in this. Game so B whyu's gonna score theirs full 783 00:38:50,039 --> 00:38:53,000 game total might be just as good as just the 784 00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:56,239 BASIC byu team, Total but in some, way shape or, 785 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:57,679 FORM i think over is the right way. 786 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 2: Here, yeah as the days go, By i'm less and 787 00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:03,280 less inclined to bet against B. 788 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 1: YU i said this at the beginning of the. 789 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,559 Speaker 2: SEASON i think they're just going to continue to get 790 00:39:06,559 --> 00:39:09,280 better and better and like as they, get as they 791 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,559 get games under their, belt especially games that, Matter i'm 792 00:39:12,559 --> 00:39:15,679 going to be less inclined to go against. 793 00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:17,159 Speaker 1: THEM i think they're really. Good go AHEAD. 794 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 5: Vp one interesting stat about is It clemson teams have 795 00:39:25,519 --> 00:39:30,639 not been hitting free throws against or party AGAINST. 796 00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 3: Byu AGAINST, BYU i APOLOGIZE i had the wrong thing open. 797 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,039 Speaker 5: There teams have shot so far from the free throw 798 00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:42,599 line AGAINST byu just sixty one point six. Percent that's 799 00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:45,039 the second lowest percentage in the. COUNTRY i think that's 800 00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:47,119 something to. Monitor is that just you, know it's a 801 00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:50,440 still small sample. Size you have to think moving, forward 802 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,960 teams are going to hit more free throws against. Them 803 00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:55,920 that's an area and it speaks to you, Know rob's 804 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,519 point possibly about the over because you look At clemson 805 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,519 what they shoot from the free throw, line they're close 806 00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:04,599 to seventy five percent inside the top one hundred in the. 807 00:40:04,639 --> 00:40:06,960 Country you, know teams could be making up some points 808 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,760 at the charity stripe against The cougars moving. 809 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 4: Forward And i'll just go real quick, here, guys just 810 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,119 throw some cops at you for those who might be 811 00:40:15,159 --> 00:40:20,119 interested in the. Total Here clemson's Played alabama faster and 812 00:40:20,159 --> 00:40:22,239 one of the fastest tempo teams in the, nation, right 813 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,840 but still up tempo one seventy. Four the game lands On, 814 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,760 georgia up, tempo went, overtime but regulation was one. Sixty 815 00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:34,000 this this game is lined at one fifty, one so 816 00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:35,480 it b why you fits in that. 817 00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:47,159 Speaker 6: Category trees, muted still, muted treasure trig still. 818 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 4: Muted, wow love YOU. 819 00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:51,639 Speaker 2: I HAD i, HAD i would LOVE i, KNOW i 820 00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:53,239 would love to not have to say it. Again but 821 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,920 WHAT i was, saying uh WAS i was thinking guard 822 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,519 for the, donation AND i was shamelessly plugging the, Channel 823 00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:03,800 the fact that this shows up on, replay the fact 824 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,119 that like, comments likes subscribe to the channel go a long, 825 00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:10,920 Way so we really appreciate that it helps a. Ton 826 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,360 and we do a lot of the same guys in 827 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,599 here every, day which we very much appreciate the interaction 828 00:41:16,679 --> 00:41:18,440 with you. Guys great stuff in the, chat by the, 829 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,559 way very intelligent chat that we have on this show 830 00:41:22,159 --> 00:41:22,800 keeps us on. 831 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 1: Our toes as. 832 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,519 Speaker 2: Well, garth we did a deep dive into this game 833 00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:29,760 earlier in the Show Columbia Stony. Brooks so What i'm 834 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,559 gonna do here Is i'm just gonna Give rob the 835 00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:33,960 floor because he said he may use this as a parlay. 836 00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:37,719 Leg if he, Doesn't i'm gonna ask him for his parlay. 837 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,599 Legs so it's over to, You, rob And i'll give 838 00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:44,000 you a second to gather your. Thoughts But, garth we 839 00:41:44,119 --> 00:41:47,519 broke this game down in, detail so just rewind the 840 00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:50,280 show or check it out on. Demand but, we the 841 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,239 three of, us weighed in on this, game and So 842 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,079 i'm gonna go To. Rob he can either use this 843 00:41:54,159 --> 00:41:56,760 game or use whatever game he. Wants we'll see if 844 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,559 he's ready to give his parlay. 845 00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 4: Leg yeah, Again i've got a lot of options, today, 846 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,559 guys But i'll go ahead and use, it, guys because 847 00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:09,199 it's as good AS i don't have a massive difference 848 00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:12,760 in the games That i'm going to play here. TODAY 849 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,400 i like a lot of games quite a. Bit this one, 850 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,719 though SINCE i since it was the first one THAT 851 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,360 i bet, today why not use it as the best 852 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,360 bet on the show for? Me, GARTH i Bet columbia's 853 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,760 team total up and over seventy five and a. HALF 854 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,239 i just this number seemed to be in a very 855 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,400 And i'm gonna just make sure we get the correct. 856 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,559 Speaker 1: Number, yeah what's the number? Now is the? 857 00:42:33,639 --> 00:42:37,119 Speaker 4: Question, yes seventy five and a half is still out, There. 858 00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:41,880 Adam almost universally we have to say things like that, universally, 859 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:47,519 right every single, day. Universally but my biggest, point and 860 00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:52,000 MAYBE i was influenced by one, performance but over The thanksgiving, 861 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,239 holiday AS i said earlier in the, BREAKDOWN i watched 862 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,880 them Play, fairfield who's not a you, know they're In 863 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,719 Stony brooks weight. Class that's another one of our favorite terms, 864 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:04,039 here and one oh six they put On fairfield looked. Effortless, 865 00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:06,840 honestly it looked. Effortless this is such a good shooting, 866 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:11,119 team such an efficient scoring team that to me and Stony. 867 00:43:11,159 --> 00:43:12,880 Brook the other angle of, this of, course if you're 868 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,639 going to play a team, total you need to be 869 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,280 able to at least have the amount of possessions that 870 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,400 you need to get, there and you have to have 871 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,239 a defense that is attackable enough to get. There and 872 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,079 Stony brook in multiple situations this year is given up 873 00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:32,920 eighty plus and so the comparable part of all those 874 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,639 teams that they gave up eighty plus two are they Like. 875 00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:38,480 Columbia Is columbia better than? THEM i come up with 876 00:43:38,519 --> 00:43:40,639 the answer, Yes so for, me it's a team total 877 00:43:40,679 --> 00:43:42,760 with The columbia. SIDE i just thought this should have 878 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,320 been a little. Higher seems like we're getting about three 879 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,159 and a half to four points of wiggle room, Here 880 00:43:47,159 --> 00:43:49,960 so give Me columbia team. Total parlay leg up and 881 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:50,800 over seventy five and a. 882 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,639 Speaker 2: HALF i got an, idea since Since rob AND i 883 00:43:54,679 --> 00:43:57,159 have both used client players for the, parlay we're going 884 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,639 to Pressure Brian power into giving a client play out 885 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,559 to how YOU i already have. 886 00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 3: My things set THOUGH i already you. 887 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,519 Speaker 5: Know here's the, thing BECAUSE i BECAUSE I i actually have 888 00:44:08,599 --> 00:44:10,519 it up for you're gonna get the, look here's the 889 00:44:10,559 --> 00:44:12,119 deal with my client play is gonna be five dollars, 890 00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:12,760 Anyway so. 891 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: Okay all, right we WANT i FORGOT i am how. 892 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:19,079 Speaker 4: It's gonna be up for. 893 00:44:19,119 --> 00:44:21,039 Speaker 5: Five i'm gonna have one play up for five dollars 894 00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:22,719 so you can get, like here's the thing if you if, 895 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,159 You i'm gonna give you one for. 896 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 4: Free you're on the. 897 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 5: Show and Then i'm gonna have a client playoff for five. 898 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,239 Dollars So i'm not Gonna i'm not gonna ask for. 899 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:30,519 MUCH i already put. 900 00:44:30,519 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 3: IT i don't want, it but here we. 901 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 5: Go, uh we don't Want we don't want to take 902 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,519 the ass end of a, line, Rob But i'm gonna 903 00:44:35,519 --> 00:44:37,800 take the ass end of a line And i'm gonna 904 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:43,480 go with an under On, Dartmouth Colorado. State this is 905 00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:47,760 as you guys, Know i'm not afraid to catch a falling, 906 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,400 knife jump in front of a, train put my hand 907 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:58,960 on the. Stove Colorado state cannot possibly continue to shoot 908 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,840 three points for the three three pointer as well as that. 909 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,639 Happened number one in the country right now are The 910 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,159 rams number one IN effecti field goal percent The Golden 911 00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:11,480 State warriors in their, Heyday rob did not shoot the 912 00:45:11,519 --> 00:45:14,719 three as well as The Colorado State rams have been 913 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,039 doing this. FAR i know it's at home In Fort, 914 00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:20,480 collins BUT i just think this number is going to 915 00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:23,400 IS i think their three point shooting is bound, regressed 916 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,800 very similar to was It it was the play actually 917 00:45:28,039 --> 00:45:30,840 UNDER i gave out On friday two. Clients it was 918 00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:38,360 The Manhattan fairfield total WHERE i, said, guys regression is 919 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,960 in the. Cards that total cash by twenty. Points so 920 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,480 the market certainly seems to concur with What i'm. SAYING i, 921 00:45:45,519 --> 00:45:49,440 mean this total has. Crashed you take a look at 922 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,599 The Colorado state. Shooting what the market's saying. HERE i 923 00:45:52,639 --> 00:45:54,840 think a lot of people believe regressions in the. CARDS 924 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:59,000 i am one of. Them Under Dartmouth Colorado, state you 925 00:45:59,000 --> 00:45:59,719 can still get one. 926 00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:00,280 Speaker 3: To fifty WHAT i. 927 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:05,199 Speaker 2: Have, yeah can we just talk about this game for a, Second, 928 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,199 like first of, all what. 929 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,519 Speaker 1: Is dartmouth doing out In laramie And Fort? Collins just 930 00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:12,079 they were they were At wyoming over the. 931 00:46:12,119 --> 00:46:15,559 Speaker 2: Weekend now they're going to stay, Out uh Play Colorado 932 00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:18,519 state all the way all the way out FROM i Believe, 933 00:46:18,519 --> 00:46:22,400 Hanover New hampshire is Where dartmouth IS i actually thought 934 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,639 that this number was, insane and it continues to go, 935 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,639 up AND i don't know if you, KNOW i don't 936 00:46:29,639 --> 00:46:31,880 know if anyone wants to side that the. 937 00:46:32,199 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 1: Side, YEAH i. 938 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,280 Speaker 2: Don't know if anyone's trying to Stomach dartmouth plus twenty. 939 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,639 Two but, like are we really laying twenty two like? 940 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,960 That For i've been To Moby. Arena they get fired 941 00:46:42,039 --> 00:46:45,079 up for the conference, Games like that's an eight thousand seat, 942 00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:48,039 venue probably three or four thousand for this game. Tonight like, 943 00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:50,760 THERE i don't Think dartmouth is a big draw for 944 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,480 them out, There so, Like i'm not going to give 945 00:46:53,199 --> 00:46:55,599 a Huge so two. Things One i'm not going to 946 00:46:55,639 --> 00:46:58,440 Give Colorado state their typical home court, edge and, Two 947 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,760 i'm not going to give them the typical edge for 948 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,400 altitude Since dartmouth was just In, laramie so they should 949 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,199 BE i, mean they should be more than accustomed to 950 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,679 the altitude that will be In colorado or In Fort, 951 00:47:08,679 --> 00:47:11,280 collins which of course is not as aggressive as the 952 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,719 altitude And. Laramie so some value at twenty. Two But, 953 00:47:15,559 --> 00:47:18,480 rovino that's. Tough, LIKE i don't know if darkness is any. 954 00:47:18,519 --> 00:47:20,639 Good they could get run off the. Floor it's it's 955 00:47:20,679 --> 00:47:21,039 a tough. 956 00:47:21,039 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 1: One. 957 00:47:22,519 --> 00:47:26,599 Speaker 4: Yeah and let's just say, Here adam that you, know 958 00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:33,960 the move From Nico medbed To minnesota and the higher 959 00:47:34,039 --> 00:47:37,119 from within has not hurt this team. Whatsoever. RIGHT i 960 00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:39,880 know you talked an awful lot about that coaching switch 961 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,320 to start the, season thinking that it would be a, 962 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,519 positive and FOR, csu it's wound up being a real 963 00:47:45,559 --> 00:47:47,280 positive so. Far we'll see what happens when we get 964 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,199 Into Mountain west, play but certainly their results pretty good so. 965 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 6: Far. 966 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 2: Yeah That's Northern IOWA ncaa tournament, Legend ali Farokman. Ash 967 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,360 that's the head coach Is Colorado state, now and by all, 968 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,079 accounts he was one of the more sought after sort 969 00:48:03,079 --> 00:48:07,719 of assistants out. THERE i guess he was credited a 970 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,599 big time with like the offensive portion of What medved 971 00:48:11,639 --> 00:48:13,320 wanted to do, there which is and that's the. Thing 972 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,320 medved has a reputation of being a very good offensive, 973 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:22,639 coach just like game, planner floor spacer and and from 974 00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:24,760 WHAT i, hear a lot of that can be you, 975 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,440 know credited to. Forropinesch so it doesn't surprise me That 976 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,719 colorado is doing well, offensively but Like brian, said like 977 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,559 it's it's kind of out of control at this, point 978 00:48:34,599 --> 00:48:35,599 like it has to come. 979 00:48:35,519 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 1: Back a little. Bit, brian what number are you seeing. 980 00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:41,880 Speaker 3: For your for your under one fifty two and a 981 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,880 half that is available multiple. 982 00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:51,039 Speaker 4: Places, peko multiple good. 983 00:48:51,039 --> 00:48:53,840 Speaker 2: PLACES i SEE i see a couple of people in 984 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,760 the chat this IS i MEAN i did wear The 985 00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:00,280 Rhode island shirt. Today That's Roady Ram roady the ram 986 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,039 on the shirt AND i also changed our group chat 987 00:49:03,079 --> 00:49:06,119 picture to The Rhode island. Ram so you might, think, 988 00:49:06,159 --> 00:49:09,800 oh Well Trigg, Lakes Rhode island. Tonight uh, Well i'll 989 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,119 tell you, What Brian, power they have a great UH 990 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,039 a GREAT I, pa that's The roadie RAM i P. 991 00:49:15,159 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 1: A you would be right in your, wheel right in your. 992 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:18,760 Wheel you would have had a. 993 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 2: Cup if we ever get down to that venue, together 994 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:22,239 you'd have a couple of. 995 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 4: Those. 996 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,039 Speaker 2: OH i was, like, wow this is It's Rhode island's 997 00:49:26,039 --> 00:49:28,960 got some good UH I, pa that's a GOOD u 998 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,679 beer state if you. Will but as far as the basketball, 999 00:49:32,679 --> 00:49:37,920 TEAM i gotta be, honest like they've probably since What 1000 00:49:38,199 --> 00:49:41,199 Archie miller has got, there like they just dis they 1001 00:49:41,199 --> 00:49:43,639 continue to just disappoint, Me Like I'M I i feel 1002 00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:46,360 Like i'm always a little bit higher on them THEN i. 1003 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:47,639 Speaker 1: Should and it's just, LIKE. 1004 00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:52,559 Speaker 2: I don't, know they got absolutely pummeled By providence over the, 1005 00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:54,880 weekend WHICH i guess isn't all that, surprising BUT i 1006 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,440 don't Think providence is very good. Either so the fact 1007 00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,280 THAT i Think Rhode island has a big lead in 1008 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,719 that game and then just dusted is a little bit. 1009 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,119 Concerning people asking about some injury. Concerns i'll have to 1010 00:50:05,159 --> 00:50:06,880 dig into that a little bit, more BUT i gotta, 1011 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,000 say from a spot, STANDPOINT i Think i'd only want 1012 00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:12,719 to Have Rhode. Island this is a weird spot for McNeese, 1013 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:17,079 state who's gonna play two conference games go up To 1014 00:50:17,199 --> 00:50:21,199 Rhode island midweek because they probably McNeice probably takes any 1015 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,840 any sort of big game they can, Get like if you, 1016 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,559 know If Rhode island's willing to play, Them i'm sure 1017 00:50:25,559 --> 00:50:26,239 they want that on their. 1018 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 1: Schedule But Brian, poward does. 1019 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,320 Speaker 2: That spot concern you for McNeese who has to then 1020 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,480 go play a conference game On friday? Night weird midweek 1021 00:50:35,559 --> 00:50:38,400 trip To, Kingston Rhode island for McNee? 1022 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 1: State what do you, Think, YEAH. 1023 00:50:41,199 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 4: I don't love the. 1024 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 5: SPOT i, Get, yeah this has to Be Rhode island 1025 00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:49,519 or pass or nothing for. ME i mean mcne's. FAVORITE 1026 00:50:49,559 --> 00:50:53,039 i MEAN i get the. Ramps, man what DO i make? 1027 00:50:53,039 --> 00:50:55,280 THIS i don't have AN i didn't actually go this 1028 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:56,440 deep in the edded board for some. 1029 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:57,119 Speaker 3: Reason what DO i? 1030 00:50:57,159 --> 00:50:57,639 Speaker 4: Make? This is my? 1031 00:50:57,679 --> 00:51:02,679 Speaker 5: Show god on my number play The jeopardy? 1032 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,119 Speaker 3: Thing somebody A BP i. 1033 00:51:06,159 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 1: WAS i was surprised that my number came out where it, did. 1034 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,039 Speaker 5: Which is pretty MUCH i kind of Have Rhode island, 1035 00:51:11,119 --> 00:51:14,679 right OR i have McNeice McNeice gets kind OF. 1036 00:51:16,679 --> 00:51:18,880 Speaker 2: I had McNeice minus one and a half, here which 1037 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,679 is like where it was before we got on the, 1038 00:51:20,679 --> 00:51:22,360 show so like barring any line. 1039 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,880 Speaker 1: Move so now McNeese is up to two and a, HALF. 1040 00:51:26,159 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 3: I have him under. 1041 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,599 Speaker 5: ONE I i have it like pretty close to one minus, 1042 00:51:30,639 --> 00:51:32,559 one which is where it, SO i mean McNeese is 1043 00:51:32,559 --> 00:51:33,320 taking money. 1044 00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 1: Here, Rob what do you think about? Yell? 1045 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,119 Speaker 4: Like, First i'll talk about, Well Archie MILLER i thought 1046 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,360 was gonna be some type of rising star at one, 1047 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,960 point and it seems like his star crashed and burned 1048 00:51:49,159 --> 00:51:54,079 because he's kind of you, know he's not necessarily noticeable 1049 00:51:54,119 --> 00:51:56,239 here In Rhode. Island you have to always take a 1050 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,000 second look and see who's the coach Of Rhode. Island, oh, 1051 00:51:58,039 --> 00:52:01,239 yeah It's Archie, miller because he's not doing any thing Worth, 1052 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,599 no But i'm going to speak to what you said 1053 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:08,039 about this. VENUE i, mean as somebody from The northeast 1054 00:52:08,039 --> 00:52:11,840 who has been spent a few summers In, Newport Rhode, 1055 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:16,000 island and you passed this university In, kingston that's not 1056 00:52:16,039 --> 00:52:18,960 going to look familiar to kids from McNee. STATE i, 1057 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,119 mean it's not the easiest trip in the. World, however 1058 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,039 in mcneice's corner is the fact that defense travels and. 1059 00:52:26,679 --> 00:52:29,599 DEFENSE i think they could win this game. Defensively Rhode 1060 00:52:29,639 --> 00:52:32,519 island doesn't seem to handle pressure well this. Year McNeice 1061 00:52:32,559 --> 00:52:35,000 is a pressure type. Team they're going to get their 1062 00:52:35,039 --> 00:52:37,519 hands on, Balls they're going to get, deflections et, cetera et. 1063 00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:40,679 Cetera they're going to probably Keep Rhode island to a 1064 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,239 low scoring number, here just based on. Defense it's probably 1065 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,039 an undergame for. Starters AS i say, That i'm trying 1066 00:52:47,039 --> 00:52:50,719 to LOOK i might talk myself into something here with 1067 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:55,840 this game going under the Number i'm showing one for 1068 00:52:56,119 --> 00:52:58,039 two and a, half a number that started at one 1069 00:52:58,119 --> 00:53:01,159 forty four and a half and now we see dips 1070 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:02,639 all the way to one forty one and a. HALF 1071 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,440 i can't say THAT i. DISAGREE i think this looks 1072 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,920 like something in the you, know one thirty five to 1073 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,880 one thirty seven range between these two than not a 1074 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,400 particularly good shooting. Team the only thing that could throw that, off, 1075 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,400 guys is if McNeice is just you, know travel, weary 1076 00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:19,440 or just they're not gonna be in awe of the. 1077 00:53:19,519 --> 00:53:21,119 VENUE i don't know exactly HOW i want to put, 1078 00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:23,480 this but it's a foreign place to have to go 1079 00:53:23,559 --> 00:53:27,239 when you're From. Louisiana so for, me probably a look 1080 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,000 at the under maybe even a look at The Rhode 1081 00:53:29,039 --> 00:53:34,840 island team total under which right now sits at sixty 1082 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,679 nine and a half seventy and a, half so you 1083 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,320 could play them under seventy and a. Half probably a pretty, 1084 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,840 good pretty good play here against. 1085 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:46,760 Speaker 2: McNeice it's a big, building like they have a hard 1086 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,440 time unless they're hosting one of The Rhode island schools 1087 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,519 or it's a HUGE a ten, game they really have 1088 00:53:51,599 --> 00:53:53,719 a hard time filling. That it's like an eight eighty 1089 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,480 five hundred seater The Ryan, center AND i think they'll 1090 00:53:57,519 --> 00:53:59,760 be lucky to have three four. Thousand they might the 1091 00:54:00,199 --> 00:54:02,719 three thousand there, Tonight SO i don't think it's gonna 1092 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,559 be any sort of like crazy crowd like. THERE i 1093 00:54:05,559 --> 00:54:07,400 don't give them like a huge home court. Edge the 1094 00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:10,079 edge from a home road standpoint will be what you, 1095 00:54:10,159 --> 00:54:12,719 said like just a weird sort of trip to The 1096 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,679 northeast for. McNeice someone in the chat asked about the health. 1097 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,880 SITUATION i don't know of any injury For Rhode. Island 1098 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,079 Mohammed sao has been, out but he's been out for 1099 00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:25,320 over a, month and they've basically played the same six 1100 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,920 or seven guys all, season like no one else has 1101 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,159 missed a, Game SO i MEAN i have nothing, There, 1102 00:54:31,199 --> 00:54:33,599 like as far AS i, Know Rhode island will be 1103 00:54:33,639 --> 00:54:39,000 their their typical health. Here, yeah it's just just going 1104 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,920 back to The Archie miller. Thing, THOUGH i think like 1105 00:54:41,519 --> 00:54:44,119 the reason it's important IS i feel like when they 1106 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,519 hired him as, COACH i think there was like big time. 1107 00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:49,519 Expectations of, course he has such a good run At, 1108 00:54:49,559 --> 00:54:52,559 dayton you, know fell short At, indiana BUT i think 1109 00:54:52,639 --> 00:54:55,519 everyone expected he would return to THE a ten and 1110 00:54:55,559 --> 00:54:57,679 do what he did At, dayton and that just has 1111 00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,079 not been the case nine to twenty two. Twelve last 1112 00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:03,159 year he finally had a winning record seven and eleven 1113 00:55:03,199 --> 00:55:05,960 in THE a, ten though seven and three this. Year but, 1114 00:55:06,079 --> 00:55:08,400 like do they do they start to does he start 1115 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,239 to finally get exposed again as he plays like the better? Teams, 1116 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,440 Well providence certainly exposed him over the. Weekend McNeice is 1117 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,719 still a pretty good. TEAM i Know Bill armstrong McNeese, 1118 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,400 coach was, pissed took all of his starters out and 1119 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,760 just benched. Him and THEN i think they came back 1120 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,679 and won over the. Weekend so maybe you do get. 1121 00:55:25,679 --> 00:55:28,360 It you, know McNeice lost to increnet word and then 1122 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,440 they didn't really play great over the. Weekend maybe you 1123 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,280 do get a focused mcneise here playing a bigger. 1124 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,599 Speaker 1: Name interesting is this? TRIP i think this is a 1125 00:55:37,639 --> 00:55:38,199 business TRIP. 1126 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 3: Vpte, yeah that's what they call it when they. 1127 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:49,119 Speaker 2: Win all, right LET'S i am gonna get scolded IF 1128 00:55:49,159 --> 00:55:51,960 i go over the hour, Again So i'm gonna throw 1129 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,440 this BEFORE i recap the. Parlay very, QUICKLY a couple 1130 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,880 of people asked about Buck Nell. Ryder i'll throw a 1131 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,800 very quick thought out. Here Buck noll had some. Injuries 1132 00:56:03,039 --> 00:56:05,559 ryder is a shit, show SO i would not bet this. 1133 00:56:05,679 --> 00:56:07,679 Game so that is My that is my take On 1134 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:14,000 Bucknell ryder the technically find something. Else, Yeah like Buck 1135 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,239 nell was rumored to be without like three or four. 1136 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,880 GUYS i think one of them played over the weekend 1137 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,960 they got beat BY. Unbc ryder just played TWO matc, 1138 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,039 games probably played as good as they have all. 1139 00:56:26,119 --> 00:56:28,119 Speaker 1: Year do you want to. 1140 00:56:28,159 --> 00:56:30,880 Speaker 2: Like are you are you laying one on the road 1141 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,239 with Buck nell knowing that they might be without some, 1142 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,320 guys or are you going to Take rider plus one 1143 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,960 at home knowing that aside from two, guards they have 1144 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,880 no one else that can. Score if anyone else has 1145 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,440 anything that they want to add, THAT i, mean it's 1146 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:45,400 not a good basketball. 1147 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,519 Speaker 5: Game i'm gonna, ACTUALLY i guess we can just go 1148 00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:50,880 rapid fire here before we close it, out because there's 1149 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,480 a couple of big. GAMES i know we didn't mention 1150 00:56:53,679 --> 00:56:57,519 And Villanova. MICHIGAN i think THAT i don't want to 1151 00:56:57,559 --> 00:56:59,320 speak for these, guys but my opinion in this game 1152 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:00,719 is very. SIMPLE i want to step in front of 1153 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,280 This michigan team right. Now there will come at the 1154 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,960 point in time where they are. Overvalued it is not right. 1155 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:09,000 HERE i was ACTUALLY i actually think the number should 1156 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,000 be a little. HIGHER i Expect michigan to take money 1157 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,679 throughout the, day so this is not the spot WHERE 1158 00:57:13,679 --> 00:57:14,280 i would Fade. 1159 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 3: Michigan Penn. 1160 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,519 Speaker 5: State indiana is another big game in the BIG i 1161 00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:20,840 kind of lean over, there. GUYS i mentioned earlier in 1162 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,360 the broadcast THAT i will have a play up for 1163 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:24,920 five Dollars tuesday in college. 1164 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,599 Speaker 3: Hoops you can check that. Out in a couple, hours 1165 00:57:27,599 --> 00:57:28,000 it should be. 1166 00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 5: Up it will be one of two five dollars PLAYS 1167 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,920 i have up as part of five Dollars. Tuesday Champions 1168 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:38,519 league is back this, afternoon, guys three Pm. Eastern we 1169 00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:41,360 returned to the. PITCH i had a terrible weekend at, 1170 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,760 soccer which is very uncharacteristic of, me so we're going 1171 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,920 to bounce. BACK i have a free play up on 1172 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,960 my page as well in The Champions. League but you 1173 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,760 can get my top, play my best bet of the 1174 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,639 week in The Champions league for just five dollars right 1175 00:57:52,639 --> 00:57:55,320 NOW wt dot bus SLASH bpte. 1176 00:57:56,039 --> 00:57:58,239 Speaker 4: Very quick thirty seconds, here, Guys just to What brian 1177 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,519 was talking about With. Michigan how about this, Quote Dusty 1178 00:58:00,519 --> 00:58:03,280 may a confident. Coach when we defend and rebound at 1179 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,039 the top of our game and when we make, shots 1180 00:58:05,239 --> 00:58:07,440 it's simply going to determine the margin and the size 1181 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,559 of margin we. Win by dus teammate coach Of, michigan 1182 00:58:10,599 --> 00:58:13,039 don't bet against them and real, quick something THAT i 1183 00:58:13,079 --> 00:58:15,159 looked at just for the chat out. THERE i was 1184 00:58:15,199 --> 00:58:18,079 looking to Play arkansas little rock team total under UNTIL 1185 00:58:18,119 --> 00:58:20,079 i saw that it was fifty two and a half 1186 00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:23,119 Against West virginia. Tonight so can't possibly play a college 1187 00:58:23,119 --> 00:58:25,400 basketball team to go under fifty two and a, Half. 1188 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,360 Speaker 2: Garth i'll touch On, HOWARD a AND t for you real. 1189 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,760 QUICK i THINK a AND t might be without some guys. 1190 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:37,360 TONIGHT i don't really hate the idea of an under, 1191 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,039 there BUT i did Lean howard plus four and a 1192 00:58:40,119 --> 00:58:41,960 half and looks like it's down to one and a. 1193 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:46,760 Half that being, said not nearly not a confident, handicappering 1194 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,800 BUT i do THINK a AND t might be shorthanded 1195 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:55,280 in that. Game all, right let's read it. Off this 1196 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,599 is the three team or that's hitting TODAY. BP i 1197 00:58:58,639 --> 00:59:01,920 agree with, You michigan's Probably gonnash just forgot about that, 1198 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,719 game but we get to as many as we. Can 1199 00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:07,239 we also talked About Yukon, florida so go check out the. 1200 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,760 Video it's up on the Wager talk YouTube channel and 1201 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:14,239 on all of Our twitter. Pages the three TEAMER unbc 1202 00:59:14,639 --> 00:59:18,800 plus two and a, Half columbia team total over seventy 1203 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,719 five and a half And, Dartmouth Colorado state under one 1204 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:23,519 fifty two and a. 1205 00:59:23,559 --> 00:59:26,039 Speaker 1: Half that's your three. Teamer hopefully it. 1206 00:59:26,159 --> 00:59:29,000 Speaker 2: Hits we'll be back tomorrow with more full court press 1207 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,840 at ten Am Eastern cash and all your. 1208 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 1: Tickets have a great. Day everyone will see you guys 1209 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:33,840 tomorrow