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Great Detectives dot net. But now, from October twenty fifth,

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nineteen fifty one, here is the Big Market.

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Speaker 2: The story you were about to hear is true. The

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names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're a

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detective sergeant. You're assigned a robbery detail. A pair of

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bandits are staging a rapid fire campaign of holdups in

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your city. In twenty one days, eleven food markets have

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been robbed. The hold ups go on the suspects are

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still unidentified.

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Speaker 3: Your job get.

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Speaker 4: Them Dragnet the documented drama of an actual crime. Well

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the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles

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Police Department, you will travel step by step on the

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side of the law through an actual case transcribed from

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official police buyers, from beginning to end, from crime to punishment.

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Speaker 3: Drag Net is the story of your police force and action.

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Speaker 5: It was Tuesday, September twenty sixth, was hot in Los Angeles.

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We were working the day Watch out of robbery detail.

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My partner's Ben Romero. The boss is Captain Didions. My

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name is Friday.

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Speaker 3: Was nine to eighteen am.

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Speaker 5: When I got to the record Bureau that's in in

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Cunningham's office.

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Speaker 3: Joh, what's doing? Not too much?

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Speaker 5: Got a job you can do for us? Frank like

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to have it as soon as you can get it out. Oh,

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it's about on these market bandits. We've already gotten out

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a dozen teletypes and bulletins on them. I like to

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get out some mimiographs too. If we can general distribution,

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then what do you want on them?

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Speaker 3: Well, I better lay out the whole thing for you.

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Speaker 5: A lot of the copies are going to the Retail

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Grossers Association all their members.

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Speaker 3: No luck with those two fives so far. No, I

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know closer than we weren't three weeks ago. Figure this

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ought to plug another loophole. How many copies you figure

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you want on this? By a thousand? Yeah, let's find

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that how to do it? All? Right? Okay? Now what

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do you want to go in at? Joe?

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Speaker 5: And you better lead off with the first job they pulled.

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That was on the third of this month. Makes a

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little better than three weeks now. They hit a supermarket

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out on Pico Okay, got it. Ever since, they've averaged

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about three jobs a week. We know they're hitting nothing

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but supermarkets. All of them are main thoroughfares, No small

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neighborhood stuff.

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Speaker 3: You got it.

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Speaker 5: So far, they've confined their operations to the seventy seventh

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of town.

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Speaker 3: There are two men, and they got a pretty well

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established them all. I've established them. Okay.

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Speaker 5: They're hitting in the morning hours, usually from the time

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the market's open up until around noontime. They use a

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stolen car ninety five percent of the time, a car

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stolen from the industrial area. Cars they steal for the

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jobs are always either a Pontiac or Nash. We also

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know they're dropping the stolen cars within a short radius

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of the hold up scene, about a half a dozen

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Speaker 3: In some instances, they use.

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Speaker 5: A second automobile or a public transportation some kind buster

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street car, you know, to make their getaway after they.

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Speaker 3: Drop out over kind. I'm sorry, I went a little faster.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I got it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: They usually pull up and park directly.

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Speaker 5: In front of the market that they're going to hold up.

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One of the men always remains in the car behind

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the wheel. Apparently it's always the same man. There's a

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description meager. We know he's good size, MWA, fairly large build.

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Here's about the best description we been able to piece

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together on the second man, picked up a little bit

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from each victim. Second man described as MWA, also about

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five foot eight inches, medium bill, one hundred and fifty

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five one hundred and sixty pounds. Always wears a hat,

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brown suit, rough material of some kind, maybe tweed.

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Speaker 3: Want a smoke, Frank, huh smoke? Oh no.

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Speaker 5: When he enters the market for the hold up, the

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second man always holds a white handkerchief, holds a white

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handkerchief to his face as if he's wiping his eyes,

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keeps most of his face covered with it. During the robbery,

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he's armed with a nickel plated revolver, possibly thirty eight caliber.

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Speaker 3: We know the jobs are well.

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Speaker 5: Cased because in almost every instance, the suspect goes directly to.

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Speaker 3: The manager of the market.

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Speaker 5: Directly the manager, he hands the manager of brown paper sack,

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tells him to put the money in it, and then

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Speaker 3: So far, he's never attempted any rough stuff, no gun play.

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Speaker 5: On three occasions, when the suspects got only small amounts

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of money at one market, they hit again in fifteen

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or twenty minutes at another store in the same general area.

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They never make any attempt to disguise or conceal a

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license number, run and get away car, as I say,

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they always abandoned the car a short distance from the

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whole up scene.

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Speaker 3: Let's see. Yeah, okay, I got it.

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Speaker 5: Well that's about all of it, Frank, I guess you

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can boil it down into some kind of shape her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I'll have it typed up in the form.

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I'll get your copy before we make the rod and

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see if it's okay with you find things now go

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it's a good huh, No, it isn't.

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Speaker 5: Frank, pretty slow. I've been on top of the thing

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for a couple of weeks. Now we're still looking for

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some kind of a break.

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Speaker 3: See.

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Speaker 6: I understand, Ben Chandler from your office to go for

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some fishing down in Mexico.

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Speaker 5: Huh yeah, not doing bad. But I hear I got

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a cat from yesterday. He's down by ken o'bay. He

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put the bite on me to send him a dozen

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mount and plugs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Fish must be hitting pretty good down there, that's

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what he says.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a big brown sea bass especially. I wouldn't

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mind getting in a couple of days down there myself.

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Speaker 3: Excoose me. Yeah, I give view a cunt again. Yes

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a minute, you're Joe, thanks man? Yeah, oh yeah, Man?

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When all right? Yeah, okay, right away?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, fine, check that formul later. Frank might be a

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little change market Bandits they hit again.

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Speaker 3: At nine eight.

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Speaker 5: Am, Ben and I got in the car and drove

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to the scene of the Bandit's latest hold up, a

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new supermarket out on Swason near the intersection of South Broadway.

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Speaker 3: After interviewing the.

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Speaker 5: Manager of the store and all available witnesses to the robbery,

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there wasn't much doubt about the identity of the suspects.

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The description and m O fitted perfectly with that of

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the two men who'd been staging the whirlwind campaign of

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market robberies throughout the south end of the city for

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the past three weeks. The approach and execution of the

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hold up was the same in every detail, even to

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the stolen car they'd used, which was found abandoned a

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short distance from the robbery scene. There was only one deviation,

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and that was the first break we'd had in the

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case since it started. A woman customer at the market

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and Missus Thomas Swanson, saw the hold up man as

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he left the store and ran to the getaway car.

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She told us that the car door apparently stuck when

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he tried to pull it open, but he took away

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the handkerchief which he'd held to his face in order

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to pull the door open with both hands.

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Speaker 3: During those few seconds. She got a good look at him.

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Speaker 5: After taking the crime report and making our preliminary investigation,

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we brought Missus Swanson downtown.

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Speaker 3: We had her check through mug.

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Speaker 5: Books of all recent parolis from the state penitentiary, all

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ex convicts with robbery records.

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Speaker 3: After a couple of hours.

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Speaker 5: Of checking mugshots, she couldn't seem to make positive identification.

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Speaker 7: Very sorry, off, sir, just gets a little confusing after

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a while looking at all these pictures. I did get a

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good look at the man's face. I just can't settle

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on one of these pictures, though.

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Speaker 8: Well, from what you did see of missus Swanson, the

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lower part of the man's face especially, Can you find

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a good likeness in any of these Well.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I can find good likenesses for some of his features,

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but none of them are altogether in any one of

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these pictures here, Like the mouth and chin on this

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man here, yes, ma'am, is that pretty close most exactly,

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i'd say, And then the nose on this one here,

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it's the very same. I just hadn't seen any picture

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that fits them all together, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: That's right, I understand.

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Speaker 5: Now these five pictures here that you've picked out, you'd

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pretty much say that they incorporate all the features of

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the man that you saw getting there.

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Speaker 7: This man here, and this one too, i'd say, the

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lower part of his face was exactly like that. The

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small mouth mustache just like that, and the chin pointed

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like on this man, and the.

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Speaker 8: Upper part of his face. Would you say it resembles

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these others yet?

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Speaker 7: Yes, these three here, just the upper part you see

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around the eyes beforehead, I'd say that was very close.

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I'll just put the two sets of pictures together. I

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think you'd have the man perfectly. Sorry, I can't be

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more help to you, as I say, looking at all

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these books of pictures, it kept.

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Speaker 3: A little confusing. Well, you've given us quite a bit

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of help, man, Thank you very much, not at all.

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Speaker 7: Is there anything else?

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Speaker 3: No, thank you? Not right now.

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Speaker 5: We've got your address and telephone. We'll probably be contacting

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you in a day or two. If you'd like to

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wait right here, we'll make arrangements to have one of

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the officers drive you back your home.

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Speaker 3: All right, Thank you very much, by man, we'll be

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talking to you. Yeah, yes, buyout. What do you think, Joe?

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Speaker 5: You know what's more than we had yesterday? Her description

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is the best we've got him the guy so far.

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Speaker 8: How about getting a composite picture made up from the

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mug shots you picked up?

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Speaker 5: That's what I was thinking. Do you want to duck

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in and get somebody to drive him Swanson home. I

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want to go in here in the captain's office.

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Speaker 3: Filmy. Oh okay, thanks man Friday. How'd you make that?

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Could have been worse, Captain.

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Speaker 9: I wouldn't find anything in the mug books.

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Speaker 3: No positive identification.

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Speaker 5: She picked out five of them she thought were close.

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I think maybe put off over the crime, about to

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be able to make up a pretty good composite from him.

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Speaker 3: Mm hm.

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Speaker 9: She fairly positive about the man's description.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems to have a clear idea good composite.

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Ought to help us quite a bit.

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Speaker 9: You get this new description, that memi graph you haven't

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made up?

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Speaker 3: No, not yet. I want to see Frank about it.

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Speaker 8: Then, Hi, s camper Man got a hold of just

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guns out hez Joey's gonna drive miss Swanson home?

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Speaker 3: Fine? Did you ask her if he checked on that

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last run we made through the stats office? Yeah, he

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picked it up.

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Speaker 8: He and Frankistrater gonna start checking the names this morning.

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It's not much of a list and pretty well picked

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over already.

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Speaker 9: So you got from the witnesses out there this morning

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description from this missus Swanson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's about it. The rest of it was there.

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He usual remo.

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Speaker 5: Swanson woman was the only one who got a good

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look at the guy when he took the handkerchief away

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from his face.

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Speaker 3: I'm about to get away.

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Speaker 8: Are they find same as Yeah, there's Leyton prints checked

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it over clean.

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Speaker 9: Well, two thieves had their share luck. When we get odds.

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Speaker 5: How about Metro division Captain? Can we get any help

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out there?

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Speaker 3: What do you got in mind?

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Speaker 5: Well, we know the take that the two thieves got

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in that job this morning was pretty small for him.

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Speaker 3: Three hundred and forty dollars. Yeah, from their.

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Speaker 5: Remo in the past, we know whenever they get a

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small take on a job, they usually hit another place fast.

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They only go after big markets on the main thoroughfares. Well,

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I was thinking if we could get some help from Metro,

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put maybe fifteen or twenty crews down in the area

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for the next couple of days, might stand a good

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chance of grabbing him.

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Speaker 8: When we're talking to Dick Tiern and O what the

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Sheriff's office kipper, he says he could put some of

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his men down that area too, cover the county on

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the on the fringe's the territory around there?

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Speaker 3: What do you think? I'm fine?

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Speaker 9: Frankon gets Stevens at Metro right now, said it up.

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So you've got twenty crews right just about?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, with any kind of luck at all. We ought

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to lend him.

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Speaker 9: Sure worth trying, lieuten Stevens. Please, Yeah, Joe, it's Harry Dideon.

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Speaker 3: Fine.

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Speaker 9: Fine, we got a little stickout problem here. How about

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using some of your men about thirty all right, I'll

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settle for twenty five okay, yeah, and south end of

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town those market bandage.

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Speaker 3: Fine.

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Speaker 9: Do you haven't report here at robbery seven o'clock tomorrow morning?

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All right, thanks a lot, and I'll set you got

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twenty five men seven o'clock tomorrow morning. Oh case, we'll

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give you a dozen teams to start with, and Dalas

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and the strata one more. I mean you figure working

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from the Sheriff's.

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Speaker 3: Office, about four or five teams I mentioned.

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Speaker 9: All right, it's your operation, you too, me in charge

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on our end. You run the show. You'll brief them

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in if you need anything, call me right.

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Speaker 8: How about the overall plans, gip you've got any special

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ideas on it?

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Speaker 3: Just one you know, get.

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Speaker 5: Them one to eighteen pm. We got the revised description

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of one of the hold up men into Lieutenant.

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Speaker 3: Point Cunningham at the Record Bureau.

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Speaker 5: He told us a thousand copies of the special mimiograph

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form containing all available information on the two market bandits

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would be ready for us.

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Speaker 3: That night.

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Speaker 5: We met with Sergeant Putoff, the artist at the Crime Lab,

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and he went to work making up a composite picture

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of one of the suspects from the mugshots selected by

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the robbery witnessed Missus Swanson. When the picture was completed,

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we had Missus Swanson check it for similarity to the

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actual hold up man, and then we brought it back

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to the Record Bureau where a thousand copies were.

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Speaker 3: Made of it.

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Speaker 5: The pictures, along with the mimiograph forms, were sent immediately

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to the Retail Grocers Association for distribution to all market

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operators throughout the city. Additional copies of the picture and

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the information sheet were given to each man who was

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to work the stakeoff when we met in the squadron

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at seven o'clock the next morning. Besides the men from

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Metropolitan Division and the men from Robbery who are going

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to work with US. Lieutenant Dick Tiernan and Sergeant Dave

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Terry from.

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Speaker 3: The Sheriff's Office were also there for the briefing.

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Speaker 8: Well, briefly, that's a rundown on the two saspects and

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the molda follom.

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Speaker 3: It's the same information and description on them. You will

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find those memio forms we handed out. Joey, let's take

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over give them their sign. Yeah. Well, if you just

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take a look at this spin.

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Speaker 5: Up map here for a minute, I'll try and brief

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you on how the steak out's going to go the

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way we got it figured anyway. Well, we've worked out

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a plan we think ought to be the easiest and

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the best way to work it. If any of you

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have any suggestions as we go along, which you'd like

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to have them all right now, as you can see

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from the map here, the steakout areas in the south end.

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Speaker 3: It runs from can y'all see it from there? Okay?

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Speaker 5: It runs from Santa fe Avenue over here on the east,

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the Vermont Avenue on the west, running north and south.

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Now we'll have to cover from Santa Barbara Avenue on

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the north down of Manchester. That'll be the southern boundary.

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I said, that's the area the thieves have been working,

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and we're going to have fourteen of our own crews

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covering that area, and Dick tenn And and Dave Terry from

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the Sheriff's office, we'll have their men covering and joining

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county territory. Now we've broken a map down into equal units.

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As you can see here, each unit will be covered

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by one car, and each of you will be assigned

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a unit number Romal and myself will be an eighty K.

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Speaker 3: We'll have a roving unit. We'll cover the entire area.

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Speaker 5: You'll have three way radios in your car, so you'll

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be able to contact us directly if you have to. Now,

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if you'll check the map again, you can see these

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green pins we've placed here in well. Each one of

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them represents a market robbery. Now notice that every one

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of them is on a main thoroughfare. Hey, Manchester Golf Broadway,

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Vernon South Hoover. Now I don't have to tell you

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that that's where you'll have to keep a sharp watch

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on the main street.

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Speaker 3: Each of the individual units here on the.

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Speaker 5: Map will be covered by one car. As is said,

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each one's roughly nine blocks square. Now you'll be responsible

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for the area assigned to you. We haven't got too

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much time, So before we go down the list to

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assign the areas, have you got any questions, any questions

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at all? Ah?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, suppose there's a two to eleven call in somebody

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else's area, I mean, other than the.

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Speaker 3: One you're assigned to. Do we leave our area and

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head over there. No, Jess, I meant to bring that out.

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Speaker 5: If there's a robbery call in somebody else's area, stay

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put soul you get a call.

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Speaker 3: In the hand, anything else?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, how about the managers of these markets, they've been

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briefed on a steak off.

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Speaker 3: I know we're going to be covering the area. Yeah,

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they've all been alerted.

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Speaker 5: Now in case of a hold up, they might try

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to contact you directly.

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Speaker 3: They'll be looking for you. You'll be looking for them. Bet it,

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Bob's I've covered for you. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Well, I'm just wondering about this Number two suspect, the

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want of drives to get away car.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well it says you have a dope sheet.

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Speaker 5: Number one suspect carries a nickel play at a revolver.

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Speaker 3: How about number two he carry a gun? Well, I

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wish I could answer that we don't know all the

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information we got on Amazon the sheet right there.

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Speaker 9: I see.

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Speaker 3: Well, they're never try any rough stuff anyway, do they?

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No gun player? They've never heard anyone. No, not yet.

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Don't let them make you. The first.

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Speaker 5: Seven thirty am we finished handing out the assignments and

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the men left to take up their stakeout positions in

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the south end of the city, two men to a team,

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each team in a three way radio car, each car

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to patrol a designated nine square block unit. There were

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twenty such units within the frame of the overall stakeout area.

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At the same time, cruiser cars from the Sheriff's Office,

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operating on their own radio setup, began patrolling the fringe positions,

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which fell in county territory. Through Control one at our

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Communications division. We kept in continual contact rhythm. Eight am,

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all the cars were in position, each of them patrolling

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their individual nine square block unit. The first two hours

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passed no reports, no sign of the mockt bandits.

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Speaker 3: Between ten am and noon, half a dozen.

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Speaker 5: Possible suspects were stopped and questioned by different teams, and

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then brought to the seventy seventh Street Division for processing.

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All of them were eliminated. The afternoon of the first

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day went pretty much the same. We had shakedowns on

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four parked cars in the area and more shakedowns on

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possible suspects. Nothing materialized. The next morning, Ben and I,

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along with the other thirty two men in the Steakhoup,

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picked up where we left off again, no sign of

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the suspects, no reports. The morning of the third day,

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the Steakhout detail met in the squad room as usual

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and then left to take up their regular assigned positions.

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Speaker 3: Seven thirty five am. How about it, Joey ready to go? Yeah,

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just a minute, Okay, let's go. I'll get it. Okay.

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Robbery Friday? Yeah, where when was that? Yeah? By the way, Oh,

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come on, we got a hurry. What is market bandits?

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Maybe we got him. Seven fifty am.

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Speaker 5: Ben and I arrived at the intersection of fifty eighth

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in San Pedro Streets. Two of our Steakhout Cruiser cars

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were pulled up at the southwest corner. One of the

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teams was Jess Gonzalez and his partner Frank Estrada. Gonzalez

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briefed us on what had happened.

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Speaker 10: Victims, the owner of the supermarket down the block in

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San Pedro was walking from his house to the store.

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Speaker 3: He passed the corner here about seven thirty five am.

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Speaker 10: Had three hundred and forty dollars on him party yesterday's

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receipts from the store. They got him right at the street,

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took every dollar of it. He sure it was in

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market band memo description. They check out all the way.

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We had two teams on as soon as we got

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the word located to hold up car a minute ago?

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Where is it Donna avalon Boulevard?

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Speaker 3: How about the Steve's chest? Car was empty? No trace.

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Speaker 5: Saturday, eight o five am, the latest victim of the

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market Bandit's the owner of the supermarket on San Pedro Street,

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was taken to the seventy seventh Street Division, where the

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crime report was made. He told us that one of

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the men who robbed him bore a very close resemblance

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to the composite picture which we'd had drawn.

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Speaker 3: Up of one of the suspects.

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Speaker 5: We figured we missed grabbing the holdup men by a

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matter of minutes, even though some of our units were

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in the general area at the time of the robbery.

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Speaker 3: It did little good.

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Speaker 5: The victim had delayed reporting the hold up five minutes

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because the bandits had threatened to find him and kill

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him if we did. Despite the fact that they'd changed

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their mo to the extent of robbing the store owner

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on the street instead of in the market proper, we

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had no doubt that the same two men we were

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looking for had committed to hold up. The abandoned car,

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which they'd used in the robbery, was gone over.

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Speaker 3: For fingerprints, but it was clean.

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Speaker 5: Meantime, the steakout went on Saturday, passed Sunday, Monday, nothing,

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no leads on the suspects, not a trace of them. Tuesday,

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the same thing all over again. The operations settled down

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to a dull routine. Tuesday night we checked the closing

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of the last market in our steakout area ten forty

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five pm. Ben and I drove back the seventy seven

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Street Division.

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Speaker 8: Every day seems to get a little longer. These lousy

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steak cutsure don't wear very well on me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what the setup is going to be.

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Speaker 5: If we don't get a break pretty soon, we can't

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hang onto the gang from Metro Division forever.

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Speaker 3: Joe has been a bad month. All I need now

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is a visit from the in law and do it

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at fine.

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Speaker 5: You talked to Jesse dinner, didn't jail. What do you

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say about those two men they picked up on South

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Maine this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: They brought him in for processing, checked him out. I

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couldn't find anything wrong. Both of them came gold. Yeah.

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How about grabbing some lead after we check on? Okay,

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I want to stop by Johnny Cokins. What about uh

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frank dip sandwich? How's that sound? I haven't had one

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for a long time. It suits me.

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Speaker 2: How was that? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I know. Oh wait a minute, he just came in.

477
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It's for you.

478
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Speaker 5: Friday turned in from the Sheriff's off. Oh yeah, thanks

479
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Bob Friday talking. Got Dick just now. Yeah, we'll be

480
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over right away. Ain't got anything market bandits pulled a

481
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hold up a couple of minutes ago and store on

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Graham Avenue. It's out in County Territory. Yeah, one of

483
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the sheriffs. You gonna took the call. Chase the hold

484
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up car two miles They get the themes while you're

485
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half right, huh they got one of them. Ten fifty

486
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two pm, Ben and I drove to the Sheriff's Firestone Substate,

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where the market bandit suspect was taken after his apprehension.

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Speaker 3: When we got there, we talked to Deputy.

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Speaker 5: Sheriff's sergeants Eddie Jones and Mel Viney, who had made

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the arrest. They said they arrived at the scene of

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the hold up the market on Graham Avenue a few

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moments after the bandits pulled away and they're stolen Nash Sedan.

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Jones and Viney gave chase, but when they finally forced

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the hold up card to a halt, the driver was

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the only one in the car. Somewhere along the route

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of the two mile chase, the second robbery suspect had

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succeeded in jumping out along with the loot taken in

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the robbery and making good his escape. A broadcast and

499
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the bulletin was gotten out immediately. The hold up suspect

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they'd apprehended had been fingerprinted and they were checking on

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his identification Downtown. Ben and I went in to talk

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to him. Jones and Viney stood by while we questioned him.

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Speaker 3: I still don't know what it's all about.

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Speaker 8: Property clerk could give you an itemizer sipt for everything

505
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you have on you take everything out of your wallet.

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Speaker 3: Now put it out in tailor.

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Speaker 6: Making a pretty big thing out of nothing, aren't you.

508
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I haven't done anything. You want to check those things

509
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from his wallet? Band, the cards, some of those papers?

510
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I mean, yeah, that's your true name on this card here,

511
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Grant B. Jameson, All right, that's right. This is your

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present address.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Have you ever been arrested before? Oh? You asked

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that it's not gonna take too much time to find out.

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Speaker 6: You might as well tell us. We still don't know

516
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what this is all about. I was speeding a little,

517
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that's all. I haven't done anything.

518
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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: You're kidding yourself, James, And we got everything on you

520
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that we need. What do you think you're gonna gain

521
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my stallings? You must have me mixed up with somebody else.

522
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I don't know what you're getting at this card here

523
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you took out of your wallets. You recognize why these

524
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names and addresses you've got jotted down on the back

525
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of it? Mind checking them out for I don't know

526
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what you mean. Take a look he's here? Whose addresses

527
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are they?

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Speaker 3: Who are the people?

529
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Speaker 6: Let's see? No, I don't think I even remember 'em.

530
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Just something I scribbled.

531
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Speaker 3: Down, that's all. You don't even remember one of 'em. No,

532
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I don't think so how do you ask? Why don't

533
00:24:02,079 --> 00:24:04,559
you come off with? Mister? What are you talking? You

534
00:24:04,599 --> 00:24:06,599
know what we're talking about. You know it as well

535
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as you know your own name.

536
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Speaker 5: Fourteen robberies down here in twenty eight days you had

537
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picked up in the hold up car. After the last

538
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try tonight your partner gets away. Now you go right

539
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on kidding yourself, Jamison, play it real close. You see

540
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how far it gets you. I sure wish I know

541
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what you're talking about. I don't know a thing about

542
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any robberies. All right, then you stand by mister. You're

543
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going to know a lot more about him. You're gonna

544
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know a lot in the hurry. Yeah, just as soon

545
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as we pick up your partner.

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Speaker 3: Twelve twenty am.

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Speaker 5: We continued to question the suspect, Grant Jamison, but he

548
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refused to admit anything, even the fact that he'd stolen

549
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the car that he'd been apprehended in.

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Speaker 3: The only strong lead.

551
00:24:42,279 --> 00:24:44,039
Speaker 5: We could pick out from the articles found on his

552
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,680
person was the list of Foreig names and addresses jotted

553
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on the back of a.

554
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Speaker 3: Car found on his wallet.

555
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Speaker 5: Twelve thirty am, Ben and I left the sub station

556
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and drove to the address Jamison that told us was

557
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his present residence, an apartment house on Vernnon Avenue. The

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manager told us he'd moved least a year ago without

559
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leaving a forwarding address. One am, we began checking out

560
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the list of four names and addresses which we'd found

561
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in the suspect's wallet. The first was a Jack Williams.

562
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His address a Spring Street roaming house. The land lady

563
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told us he'd moved to Cleveland, Ohio, three months before.

564
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The second was a John Gallagher. His address a third

565
00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:22,240
rate hotel in East Hollywood. He hadn't been registered there

566
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in the past two months. The third was a Matthew Sandford.

567
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His address turned out to be an apartment house in

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the Crenshaw District.

569
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Speaker 3: One. A place to light on the mail box is

570
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over here, Joe. Yeah, here you go. You see the

571
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name there? Mm yeah, here.

572
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Speaker 8: Here it is mL Sandford. That out of be a

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apartment five. Right, let's try.

574
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Speaker 3: Front door open, Saint yeah, let's company number five should

575
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be done this way? I guess number five. Okay, give

576
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:15,640
it a try. Go ahead. That you police officers, you

577
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Matthew Sam get up here, all right, get it all right?

578
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:25,160
Come on, I've a gun down alright, got it? Joe?

579
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,480
All right, get your hands, I'll cover him. Look around.

580
00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:31,720
Huh right, what is this anyway? What's the idea you

581
00:26:31,839 --> 00:26:33,839
tell us you pulled the gun. You've got no business

582
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,640
in here, You got no right? All right?

583
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Speaker 8: You just stand still. We'll explain it. Downtown money sacks.

584
00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:40,960
Joe found him in the desk, same market they hit tonight.

585
00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:43,359
All right, Samford, you've got nothing from me. I don't

586
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:44,720
know what you're talking about it yet his coat?

587
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Speaker 3: What have you been?

588
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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What are you trying to build anyway? You haven't got

590
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,720
anything on me. Fourteen robberies, mister, that's what we got

591
00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:53,240
on you. Do you think you got proof? We got it? Yeah,

592
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fourteen victims. Come on, let's go.

593
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Speaker 2: The story you have just heard was true. The names

594
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were changed to protect the innocent.

595
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Speaker 4: The two Market bandit suspects, Grant Burton Jamison and Matthew

596
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,920
Roy Sanford were tried and convicted on fourteen counts of

597
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first degree robbery and received sentences as prescribed by law.

598
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First degree robbery is punishable by imprisonment in the state

599
00:27:23,519 --> 00:27:35,920
penitentiary from five years to life. You have just heard

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Dragnet a series of authentic cases from official files. Technical

601
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advice comes from the Office of Chief of Police W. H. Parker,

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Los Angeles Police Department.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. Well a good case and one of those

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episodes where the capture comes from a partnership with Los

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Angeles County, which is really important in real life to

606
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:11,440
so many LAPD operations. I also did like the scene

607
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of making the composite picture. It was a bit different

608
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other scenes that I had seen. For example, in He

609
00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:26,799
Walked By Nine, they had kind of like pre cut

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images of different features to determine how the person looked,

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and they had multiple witnesses. Here you just had one witness,

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but she was able to say it looked a little

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bit like this top of the face and that bottom

614
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of the face, and that was a way they produced

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00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,480
the composite. And of course there is the secret star

616
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:01,319
of the episode, the mimeograph. It's not something that people

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are as familiar with, but it was really important before

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you had photo copiers come along. Starting in the latter

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part of the sixties and then into the seventies, these

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were a huge step ahead for printing and running off copies.

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And certainly would be a vital tool in trying to

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get multiple copies of anything out to the police force.

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And I actually know of the mimeograph. My first time

624
00:29:37,599 --> 00:29:40,519
hearing of it wasn't in this episode of Dragon That

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or any other episode or movie from the era, or

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00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,519
even radio program. You don't hear those mentioned a lot.

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It was actually from a nineteen eighty sitcom. My favorite

628
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,079
comedy show when I was growing up was Perfect Strangers,

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and it featured a mimeograph machine. They made it believable.

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It was the first episode where they were working in

631
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the newspaper, and the writers recognized the mimeograph machine would

632
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be a great set piece for the sort of physical

633
00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:21,720
comedy they did on that show, And so the writers

634
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:27,119
had the copy machine breakdown, and so Balki had to

635
00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:31,960
use the mimeograph machine. Cousin Larry tried to help him,

636
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,839
and hilarity in suit believable in nineteen eighty seven that

637
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a venerable Chicago newspaper would have one of those machines

638
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,079
still around, But these days I don't think you would

639
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:49,640
find one outside of a museum or a private collection. Perhaps, Well,

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now it's time to then call our Patreon supporter of

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That will do it for today. If you're enjoying the podcast,

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yours truly, Johnny Dollar.

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Speaker 11: Where, hey, Marian, having trouble? Yeah, some kids been monking

651
00:31:29,319 --> 00:31:29,720
just a lot.

652
00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:31,079
Speaker 3: You want some bait?

653
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,079
Speaker 2: No, this is one trip I didn't come to fish.

654
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Speaker 11: How is it by the way fish?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Fine, just my lot.

656
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Speaker 11: No, I'm supposed to meet somebody there.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it must be that fellow out there. He was

658
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,200
already there when I got here.

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Speaker 11: Oh you see that boat the bottom side up on

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the pier in.

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Speaker 3: Near the end.

662
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Speaker 11: I mean the man sitting beside her, Yeah, and himself

663
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:55,720
a fishing rod. Looks like could be on some bait.

664
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I'll walk out with you and see if you go mine.

665
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Speaker 5: Not at all.

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Speaker 11: So their fishing has been good?

667
00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: Huh? What have they been catching?

668
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 11: Quite a few bass last couple of days off the pier. Yeah,

669
00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:10,480
there's some kelp beds and close brings me in around here.

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Speaker 3: Funny and your friend there. You don't see it.

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Speaker 12: Hey sleep, I guess, Hey, watch out, he's living. Got

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but hm, hey, mister, mister, he isn't sleeping.

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Speaker 3: That's right, he's dead.

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Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with us then in the meantime.

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