WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:00.160 You. 2 00:00:00.360 --> 00:00:04.919 Chilly effect is sponsored by Wallstreet, Window dot Com. 3 00:00:04.559 --> 00:00:11.080 And listeners is likely yeah, nowated in autia. 4 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:18.160 Okay, minor variation on the original intro that was original 5 00:00:18.280 --> 00:00:21.679 about three four years ago, but hey, why not recut, 6 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:24.359 re edit, and reuse. It seems like that's what Hollywood 7 00:00:24.399 --> 00:00:26.239 and TV is doing every single day. 8 00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:28.120 Anyway, Here we are. 9 00:00:28.160 --> 00:00:30.480 The o'celli effect, and it is the seventh day of 10 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:33.880 January twenty twenty six, allegedly according to that thing we 11 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:37.840 call a calendar, and I've already done a news snapoo 12 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:40.799 for the day. But now we're going to get deep 13 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:43.240 on the dive, if you will, with the guy who 14 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:45.840 is the best man to survive if you want your 15 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:50.920 sanity to do so, regarding sober analysis on guess what 16 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:54.880 historical topics things that are in real time may be 17 00:00:55.039 --> 00:00:58.560 happening at the moment and history being made in twenty 18 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:02.759 twenty six and maybe the tail end of twenty twenty. 19 00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:04.719 Five and the hangover of that's still happening. 20 00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:09.280 Because we're going to talk Venezuela with author, researcher and 21 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:13.040 overall hell of a guy, Larry Hancock. Go to Larry 22 00:01:13.879 --> 00:01:17.040 Larry Hancock's word press site which you will see in 23 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:20.439 the show notes attached to this show, and follow his 24 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:23.840 blog over there because your blog is still perfectly live 25 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:25.799 over on the word press site, right Larry. 26 00:01:28.439 --> 00:01:30.640 Oh yeah, I just made a post about an hour ago. 27 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:33.840 Excellent, So definitely go over there and read it. And 28 00:01:33.879 --> 00:01:36.599 I highly recommend all of his books, and I do 29 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:40.079 mean all of his books that have been released, and 30 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:43.879 I am looking forward to seeing what the updated Oswald 31 00:01:43.879 --> 00:01:45.920 Puzzle is going to look like, which I think is 32 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:49.519 due to be released like now or very very soon. 33 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:52.799 Check on Amazon. I know you can pre order and 34 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:56.799 keep up on that. God knows we need somebody at 35 00:01:56.920 --> 00:02:01.280 least giving us a healthy bit of information regarding the history, 36 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:04.599 even if it's being made in real time. Who knows 37 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:07.920 what book would we have to attach today's discussion to, 38 00:02:08.120 --> 00:02:12.680 Larry Gee, let me think a shadow warfare, surprise attack, 39 00:02:13.159 --> 00:02:15.919 created chaos. You know, all of these things might touch 40 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:21.439 upon the current event subject for our discussion tonight. 41 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:23.879 What would you suggest, though, if. 42 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:26.800 Somebody wanted a primer or a primer on this, if 43 00:02:26.840 --> 00:02:31.199 you will, regarding the action that we're seeing, that's no 44 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:33.120 longer plausible deniability. 45 00:02:33.199 --> 00:02:36.039 But anyway, it is what it is. It was what 46 00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:37.719 it was, And did. 47 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:41.240 We just actually and the proverbial we being the United 48 00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:44.520 States government, did we just snatch as the president of 49 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:48.840 a country, whether legitimate or otherwise, and then tell the 50 00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:50.719 vice president they were going to do what they were 51 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:54.280 told or else? I mean, did that just happen in public? 52 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:56.159 Or am I imagining things? 53 00:02:57.439 --> 00:02:57.800 Larry? 54 00:02:58.639 --> 00:03:01.240 Which book should we attack this one? Two of your 55 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:03.800 previous writings? Sorry? Which ones? 56 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:07.439 Two responses? 57 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:10.599 Chuck On the first one, Shadow Warfare would definitely be 58 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:13.919 the right book to give the backstory to what's going 59 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:14.759 on now. 60 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:18.639 There's no doubt about that. Give some perspective. 61 00:03:18.680 --> 00:03:21.800 I mean, what we're doing now goes on back much 62 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:23.039 further than that. 63 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:25.800 But Shadow Warfare I think does a good. 64 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:28.840 Job of illustrating how what we're doing now is different 65 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:32.879 than the other fifty two times we've done it in 66 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:36.120 the last two centuries, because we continue to do the 67 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:39.360 same things over and over again. It's just a matter 68 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:42.199 of how we do them and how we describe them 69 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:45.039 and how public we are with them. Well on your 70 00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:49.159 second point, actually, I think not. My best assessment at 71 00:03:49.199 --> 00:03:53.400 the moment is that we actually not we that the 72 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:59.199 president did a deal with the Venezuelan administration. He did 73 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:03.759 a deal with the Vice President of Venezuela to leave 74 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:08.639 that administration in place and lay the groundwork for buying 75 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:13.439 their oil and taking control of their oil and basically 76 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:18.160 kicking to the kicking to the side the woman who 77 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:22.000 we had helped get the Nobel Prize by saying that, no, 78 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:27.920 she leads a democratic movement, but she's not really strong 79 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:31.160 enough leader. So we need to say with the vice president, 80 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:34.199 who will sign off the rights to us. 81 00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:38.519 Ah. Okay, so just keeping you know, for those of 82 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:41.920 you keeping score at home, first thing is okay, fine, 83 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:47.120 shadow warfare works, just fine. This is not unprecedented. That's 84 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:49.519 the thing that bothered me throughout the reporting is I 85 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:51.240 had to read over and over again how this was 86 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:54.879 some sort of unprecedented situation, and I'm like, no, it's 87 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:57.879 not if you actually know the history. What is kind 88 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:03.000 of unprecedented in my mind is the WWE. 89 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:03.279 Style scripting here. 90 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:06.959 I mean this very much reads in the public anyway, 91 00:05:07.920 --> 00:05:11.680 very much like a storyline that you know, maybe somebody had, 92 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:15.680 I don't know, missus McMahon, you know, give us a 93 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:20.000 bit of I don't know, script consulting, maybe regarding how 94 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:23.680 to write this. It was very weird because in short, 95 00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:27.720 Larry and just let me get over my stupid superficial 96 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:32.079 look at it. Yeah, we see that. Okay, Maduro is snatched. 97 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:37.800 He's being captured because drug boats and on his way 98 00:05:37.839 --> 00:05:40.959 over while he was still in transit, they started to spend. Yeah, 99 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:44.000 but we need the oil too. Trump goes out, makes 100 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:47.240 a statement and basically says, that's okay, we'll deal with 101 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:51.600 the Vice president lady, and she's gonna do what she's told. 102 00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:54.360 She made a statement right after saying I don't know 103 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:56.720 what you're talking about. We want our president back. Hey, 104 00:05:57.439 --> 00:06:00.839 you know, feigning at the very least outrage over the 105 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:04.439 whole thing. We don't see any movement from anybody. But again, 106 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:08.120 that whole strangeness with the Peace president, you know, being 107 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:10.360 pushed for a prize by somebody else who won a 108 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:14.519 prize and then dedicating it to him. That political theater 109 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:18.720 went on, and in reality, what are we looking at. 110 00:06:18.720 --> 00:06:21.639 We have a foreign leader brought here. Now if a 111 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:25.959 deal was struck with that administration, that's kind of fascinating. 112 00:06:26.399 --> 00:06:29.800 Would that be to simply assure the safety of Maduro? 113 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:35.399 And isn't it interesting The hypocrisy of pardoning another narco 114 00:06:35.519 --> 00:06:40.079 state leader, like in very close proximity to this happening. 115 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:45.759 It's pretty wild, Larry. So, all I'm saying is this 116 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:48.519 doesn't look quite the same on the surface as you 117 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:51.800 would think it would appear if you really know what's 118 00:06:51.839 --> 00:06:55.079 going on behind the scenes, and yet it's not being 119 00:06:55.079 --> 00:06:58.720 done quietly. It's being done very much outfront. Unless I've 120 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:03.160 lost my mind. I mean, let's begin with the beginning again. 121 00:07:03.319 --> 00:07:07.399 Not an unusual action to turn around and capture a 122 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:12.439 sovereign leader, despite the fact that I think others would 123 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:16.439 object to this if it was done by someone other 124 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:18.759 than Donald Trump. I think there would be people right 125 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:22.360 now in political power who would be making statements against 126 00:07:22.439 --> 00:07:25.399 this kind of movement. Why are we involving ourselves in 127 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:29.199 the foreign affairs of well foreign countries, etc. 128 00:07:29.439 --> 00:07:32.759 Etc. But where should we begin unpacking this? 129 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:38.519 Well, I think we have to address it in three steps. 130 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:45.079 The first step is to look at forced rendition. I mean, 131 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:49.360 that's the very first step. Is does the United States 132 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:53.839 have the authority, the history, etc. To literally designate someone 133 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:57.959 as a criminal essentially lay a case out in an 134 00:07:57.959 --> 00:08:01.839 American court, not in the court they live, lay out 135 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:05.560 an injunction, get an injunction granted, and as a nation, 136 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:09.959 grant itself the authority to go get those people wherever 137 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:14.480 they are, regardless of extradition laws or not, regardless of 138 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:16.920 the objections of any country where they happen to be, 139 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:19.639 and literally state our law. 140 00:08:19.560 --> 00:08:20.639 Trumps your law. 141 00:08:21.360 --> 00:08:23.480 We don't care what your laws are, we don't care 142 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:27.040 what your position are. We have made a decision in 143 00:08:27.079 --> 00:08:32.960 our country. This person has committed an illegal act which 144 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:36.840 involves us in some fashion, and it's perfectly all right 145 00:08:36.919 --> 00:08:39.519 for us to do whatever we need to do to 146 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:42.360 go get them. This could be an individual. 147 00:08:44.159 --> 00:08:45.759 We did a lot of that. We did a ton 148 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:47.120 of that after nine to eleven. 149 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:51.919 You know, that was primarily individuals in a host of 150 00:08:51.960 --> 00:08:56.840 countries overseas, black rendition, with CIA teams grabbing them up, 151 00:08:56.919 --> 00:09:01.600 taking them to interrogateation centers and actually never bringing legal 152 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:05.159 charges against them, just grabbing them up and eventually ending 153 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:07.879 up with them either dead or in Guantanamo. So on 154 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:11.679 an individual basis, forced rendition is nothing new, because we. 155 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:14.200 Just declare we have the authority to do that. 156 00:09:14.840 --> 00:09:18.240 However, we've done it at this scale before in Panama 157 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:24.559 with Noriega we declared him a criminal with drug connections, 158 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:30.600 went into the country, literally savaged its small military force, 159 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:33.120 took him, did the same thing. 160 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:34.039 I think. 161 00:09:34.279 --> 00:09:37.720 So if you just leave it to forced rendition, you 162 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:41.039 either have to say, you know, it's okay that the 163 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:46.279 United States declares that its laws supersede everybody else's laws. Okay, 164 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:50.240 if you take this position, this is nothing new. We 165 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:53.519 just do it because we can't do it. What's different 166 00:09:53.559 --> 00:09:58.159 about this one is that we didn't. We literally and 167 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:00.720 nobody's tallied up the numbers, and the media is not 168 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:06.840 covering it. We destroyed a significant portion of the Venezuelan 169 00:10:06.919 --> 00:10:11.440 military that had nothing to do other than providing cover 170 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:13.200 for the extraction force. 171 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:14.279 But we we. 172 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:18.879 Took out millions and millions dollars worth of their military equipment. 173 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:24.480 We killed lots of people. That's beyond just getting Maduro. 174 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:29.320 So we literally, you'd have to say we waged war 175 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:32.840 on a foreign country in conjunction with the rendition. And 176 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:35.919 we're certainly not going to offer any damages. We're not 177 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:39.360 going to offer any apologies. We're just going to say 178 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:43.919 it's all right that we destroyed equipment that you guys 179 00:10:43.960 --> 00:10:49.240 spent tens, maybe hundreds of millions of dollars on because 180 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:50.600 we were enforcing our law. 181 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:52.360 And that's just the way it goes. 182 00:10:53.080 --> 00:10:55.720 And that's you know, if you look at the military 183 00:10:55.799 --> 00:10:58.879 channels that I do, you can see the extent of 184 00:10:58.919 --> 00:11:01.960 the damage because if you looked at Caracas that it 185 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:06.120 wasn't just Caracas, it was all over the country. And again, 186 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:09.559 as a military buff myself, I understand why you do 187 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:12.759 that to protect your own people. But if you felt 188 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:15.360 you were forced to do it, you might just say, look, 189 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:19.720 if you guys have cooperated this criminal, tell you what. 190 00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:22.440 We'll come down and we'll try and I'm going to. 191 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:28.200 Third party, you know. But no, we didn't take that approach. 192 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:30.919 We whether you like it or don't like it, and 193 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:39.799 I think there's a general we didn't just do forced rendition. 194 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:47.519 We did a broad scale military action and chewed up 195 00:11:47.559 --> 00:11:49.360 a lot of their resources to get them. 196 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:52.639 And they're the first thing that you have to in 197 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:57.120 your own mind say, was that lead right? Larry M 198 00:11:57.279 --> 00:12:02.039 don't legal within our system and we have and over again. 199 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:05.080 Larry mute up for a minute and just relaxed because 200 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:07.919 we're getting a little bit of weird interference. It seems 201 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:11.080 like the internet signal is degrading, just a touch, and 202 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:14.080 I just want to enter something into the conversation here 203 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:16.279 and perhaps it'll stabilize while I'm talking. 204 00:12:17.799 --> 00:12:18.840 You know, what's. 205 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:22.200 Interesting here is that it's undeniable that an act of 206 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:27.440 war or warlike acts were committed here. That's a certainty 207 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:32.639 that's publicly observable. But the idea that there should be 208 00:12:32.759 --> 00:12:36.960 no sort of retaliation because we were so super justified 209 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:41.799 is one thing. But the weird thing to me is 210 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:45.759 this again, I can't stand it. Like I said, it's 211 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:51.679 like a WWE script. They are feigning surprise that this happened, 212 00:12:51.799 --> 00:12:57.840 when meanwhile, we watched military assets get maneuvered. People talked about, 213 00:12:57.919 --> 00:13:00.759 you know, these ships being moved into the Caribe, and 214 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:04.480 people talked about there being a focus, okay, with some 215 00:13:04.679 --> 00:13:08.480 of our assets being deployed in such a way that 216 00:13:08.639 --> 00:13:11.240 in my mind, it was predictable that something like this 217 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:16.559 was going to occur. It's just that the target, the 218 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:20.600 chosen target of Venezuela, seems weird to me because of 219 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:23.919 the let's call it the priority list. How is it 220 00:13:23.960 --> 00:13:27.639 that Venezuela is on the top of the priority list. Well, 221 00:13:27.879 --> 00:13:30.639 you know, the real answer is given to you in 222 00:13:30.679 --> 00:13:33.679 the new spin, which is, oh, by the way, it's 223 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:38.360 not just about the narco state aspects of this and 224 00:13:38.399 --> 00:13:41.960 the government supporting drug trafficking. Oh no, no, no, it's 225 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:47.480 not just that, but also oil. And there's no apology 226 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:52.000 to that, There's no, it's unapologetically offered that oil plays 227 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:56.720 a serious role here in assembling the motive for what 228 00:13:57.000 --> 00:14:01.720 is either an act of war or a warlife like action. Okay, 229 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:04.200 if you want to get into the semantics battle here, 230 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:08.600 and that is significant in and of itself, or again, 231 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:11.200 am I crazy the fact that they're sort of like, oh, 232 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:12.799 by the way, you know, it's not just about the 233 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:15.919 drug boats, but also you know, these people with their oil, 234 00:14:15.960 --> 00:14:17.879 we got to deal with that, and. 235 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:21.120 You know, and and Trump doing his. 236 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:25.480 I call it the I don't know if I should 237 00:14:25.480 --> 00:14:27.559 say this with you on the show, but I will anyway. 238 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:34.039 The warped mister rogers, we need good neighbors, okay. Explanation 239 00:14:34.279 --> 00:14:37.919 for why this needed to happen, this was essential, and 240 00:14:38.080 --> 00:14:40.960 how this rose to the top of the list on 241 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:46.679 priorities is almost as weird as them reinjecting the maybe 242 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:49.600 we should also take over Greenland at some point. Real soon, 243 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:55.759 you know, discussion talking point back into the political discussion 244 00:14:55.840 --> 00:14:59.120 sphere publicly, you know, just this. 245 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:00.440 Week where we're to that. 246 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:02.000 Oh by the way, you know, we're still looking at 247 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:05.320 take in Greenland, which almost seems like a threat if 248 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:07.919 we're willing to do this, and we're probably willing to 249 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:10.879 do something over there, even though the discussion so far 250 00:15:10.960 --> 00:15:14.000 has been we're looking to purchase it, you know. And 251 00:15:14.039 --> 00:15:17.039 I keep using this we thing and whose we we 252 00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:21.039 as again the administration the United States, because remember, like 253 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:23.440 it or not, this is what represents you and me 254 00:15:23.480 --> 00:15:25.960 at the moment, So there is a we to it. 255 00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:27.600 But I mean, tell me. 256 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:31.200 About that part of it, because it does seem different 257 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:34.679 in that way that we now have a spin kind 258 00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:37.720 of being assembled in real time, and like I said, 259 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:41.200 it feels like and maybe I'm crazy, but it feels 260 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:46.279 like a WWF or WWE script that's being assembled with 261 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:49.360 the same very sort of shallow reasonings. You know, we 262 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:51.360 need vengeance, so we need to go back at the 263 00:15:51.840 --> 00:15:54.240 you know, the big boss man needs to pay for 264 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:57.919 his crimes. You know, Maduro needs to be taken for 265 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:00.679 his crimes. Like why did they snatch up Hiss? That's 266 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:03.360 another weird one. You know, is she the emmel dea 267 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:07.480 Marcos in this? You know, in this equation, there's a 268 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:10.440 lot of open questions here. But one thing that's not 269 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:13.519 open is that there's going to be a variety of 270 00:16:13.639 --> 00:16:17.759 choices here on the buffet table to justify what we've 271 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:22.120 seen happen here, which is not normal, even though it 272 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:26.919 is a regular occurrence in our recent and even far 273 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:29.000 further flung history. Uh. 274 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:31.000 But am I reading this wrong? 275 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:33.639 Or I mean it sounds confusing coming out of my 276 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:34.600 mouth as I say it. 277 00:16:35.159 --> 00:16:37.200 But I mean, am I confused? Or is this what 278 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:38.159 I'm saying good? 279 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:43.360 I think it's deeper than that, Chuck. 280 00:16:43.879 --> 00:16:48.320 I think Venezuela represented a target of opportunity and went 281 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:51.080 up on the priority list because of the oil. But 282 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:53.480 if you dig down at a deeper layer, what we 283 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:56.960 have said, what the President has said, what the Secretary 284 00:16:57.000 --> 00:17:01.240 of Data said, literally is that under this administration, we 285 00:17:01.440 --> 00:17:06.440 have the authority to determine, especially in this hemisphere, that 286 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:11.079 any particular nation that we see as a national security 287 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:13.839 threat to us, and in other words, any nation that 288 00:17:13.960 --> 00:17:18.480 is not cooperative with us, we have the authority to 289 00:17:18.599 --> 00:17:23.079 do regime change, or we have the authority to do deals. 290 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:25.880 I won't even call it regime change because one of 291 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:29.160 the things that's going to emerge in Venezuela is we 292 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:34.240 may not really be doing regime change. That may be 293 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:37.039 a cover. There are a lot of people going around 294 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:43.680 saying permit to Venezuela. Well, at this point in time, 295 00:17:43.799 --> 00:17:46.480 that's not what we've done. As a matter of fact, 296 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:50.559 we turned down the woman that would have represented democratic government, 297 00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:55.240 and we appear to be doing the oil deal with 298 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:58.599 the vice Predessident, who is a Maduro regime figure. 299 00:17:58.720 --> 00:18:01.480 Now clearly she's going to do some cleaning. 300 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:05.480 House and make yourself look better. But the democratic condition 301 00:18:05.599 --> 00:18:07.960 a person is not the person that we're dealing with. 302 00:18:08.039 --> 00:18:11.480 Nor has anybody talked about new elections. So but let 303 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:13.920 me let me cut back to the chase. The point 304 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:18.720 is we have established a statement that now as within 305 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:23.000 domestically everything is about national security. 306 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:24.759 If the admin. 307 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:36.200 H srince Cuba or Greenland or Columbia or whatever, then 308 00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:39.039 if we have the right, we've declared ourselves just like 309 00:18:39.119 --> 00:18:44.680 with an addition, our decision whether they want or don't want, 310 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:52.000 doesn't matter. And all right, sorry she had a warfare. 311 00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:52.799 And I look. 312 00:18:55.640 --> 00:18:57.079 Okay, I'll tell you what we're gonna do. 313 00:18:57.119 --> 00:18:59.480 I'm gonna tell us I'm gonna take one more crick 314 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:02.000 break here, and we're gonna come right back and continue 315 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:04.119 with this discussion with Larry stick around. 316 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:10.960 Guys, Complation to conversation, you are the effect. 317 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:19.279 Decide is broken, Truto, Revelation to conversation must. 318 00:19:20.440 --> 00:19:21.200 Stop your lives. 319 00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:34.559 So show game effect, revelation, sam a devastation, revelation through 320 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:40.759 conversation effect, you are the effect true. 321 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:44.480 Conversation, Ramon stranger. 322 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:50.000 Fact relations. 323 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:53.480 Through conversation. 324 00:19:54.559 --> 00:20:02.680 Oh, show effect, revelation conversation gone, Shelly effect beyond this 325 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:06.519 place somewhat and fearstror the shame. 326 00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:10.599 And yet the men of years finds it shall find me. 327 00:20:10.759 --> 00:20:11.440 On a braid. 328 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:13.880 And that is not a freak debate. 329 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:16.359 I charge with the scroll. 330 00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:19.880 I am the master of my fate. I am the 331 00:20:20.119 --> 00:20:28.039 captain of my soul. Joe Funny in fact revelation, the. 332 00:20:28.039 --> 00:20:30.200 Broma Kanda Horse continued cashing in and. 333 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:34.720 Teach us about religion, keeping score at home. 334 00:20:35.519 --> 00:20:36.880 Who are people you'd like to see? 335 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:38.200 Even by wolves. 336 00:20:38.599 --> 00:20:42.960 Dishrup dying soon the Cagles, my Taco Tips and his continued. 337 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:45.200 GLF storming tour and winning a streak, says. 338 00:20:45.039 --> 00:20:48.279 God sparred him and decided a firefighter dies from me. 339 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:51.480 A revelation con. 340 00:20:51.400 --> 00:20:52.200 The face. 341 00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:56.400 A fact you are the effect. 342 00:20:57.119 --> 00:21:01.279 You are the effect relation conversation, but. 343 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:07.400 No relation to. 344 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:12.680 Conversation through conversation. 345 00:21:13.559 --> 00:21:29.759 All affect relation to conversation, conversation tell effect relation to conversation. 346 00:21:31.799 --> 00:21:33.400 As the pit from. 347 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:40.880 Polk whatever, donating for my indokable soul in the contians circumstance, 348 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:45.599 I am not wis no cry aloud a chance my 349 00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:46.319 head bloody? 350 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:51.319 You the effect effect? 351 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:54.799 Okay, so hopefully we're back nice, live and loud, and 352 00:21:54.960 --> 00:21:57.519 we've got a clearer connection now with Larry Hancock. And 353 00:21:58.519 --> 00:22:00.839 this is really important to be because I had asked 354 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:04.799 the superficial question and Larry was getting into a deeper 355 00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:09.079 and explaining the difference here and what we're looking at. 356 00:22:09.160 --> 00:22:10.319 So please continue, Larry. 357 00:22:12.559 --> 00:22:17.680 Sure, Basically, to some extent, this is nothing new, and 358 00:22:17.799 --> 00:22:21.960 we talked about that. But what most people aren't getting, 359 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:25.759 I think, is that we have returned to a position 360 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:28.480 which we had kind of left since back in the nineties. 361 00:22:29.079 --> 00:22:32.519 We have under the current administration, we are making the 362 00:22:32.599 --> 00:22:36.640 assertion that the United States has the right to change 363 00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:43.720 any government that we feel is not cooperative, that we 364 00:22:43.880 --> 00:22:47.319 feel might be a threat to our national security. And 365 00:22:47.440 --> 00:22:51.000 when I say not cooperative, they have resources that we need. 366 00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:55.759 That could be Venezuela, it could be Greenland, they have whatever, 367 00:22:55.960 --> 00:22:58.880 whatever it is, whatever we manage to come up with 368 00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:03.359 and express our concern about, we gave ourselves the right 369 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:04.160 to do it. Now. 370 00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:06.039 It's not that we didn't do that before. 371 00:23:06.599 --> 00:23:10.640 I can quote statements from John Foster Dulles in the 372 00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:14.680 fifties that literally say, you know, it doesn't matter if 373 00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:20.400 there's a country out there that had domessed that elected 374 00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:26.279 through standard democratic process, a government that we feel as dangerous. 375 00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:29.519 Maybe it's communists, Maybe that's kind of pastay now, but 376 00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:34.799 it's it's not a cooperative government. John Foster says, we 377 00:23:34.920 --> 00:23:39.480 have every right to replace it. Henry Kissinger in the 378 00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:43.759 seventies says the same thing. You know, it doesn't matter 379 00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:45.799 how that government. 380 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:46.160 Came to place. 381 00:23:46.279 --> 00:23:50.240 It could be democratic, it could be Basically the fun 382 00:23:50.319 --> 00:24:02.440 thing is tree go bad due to the irresponsibility of 383 00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:03.079 its own people. 384 00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:05.039 Right. 385 00:24:05.240 --> 00:24:09.519 So, we've seen this in any place from various South 386 00:24:09.519 --> 00:24:14.000 American and Central American countries talk about Yeah, we've seen 387 00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:17.880 it in Iraq even right where now our national security 388 00:24:17.960 --> 00:24:21.599 is threatened by the Iraqi regime, and well they have 389 00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:25.240 weapons of mass destruction, they're threatening us, so therefore there's 390 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:30.000 our justification for going in. It's just really it's just 391 00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:32.519 kind of labeled a little differently, but it's more of 392 00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:32.880 the same. 393 00:24:38.039 --> 00:24:40.720 Yeah, yeah, it's absolutely more of the same. It's just. 394 00:24:42.759 --> 00:24:47.279 Basically asserting that either your law or your your security 395 00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:50.559 trumps everybody else. I mean, and it's your decision and 396 00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:53.319 you can do it because you've got the power to 397 00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:57.640 do it. That just say, we can do it because 398 00:24:57.680 --> 00:25:00.319 we have the power to do it. And we've been 399 00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:01.039 in that position. 400 00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:12.039 This is part of the American tradition, like it or not, right, 401 00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:16.079