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<v Speaker 1>Most people, if you ask them to confirm, would agree

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<v Speaker 1>that health is in fact one of the most important

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<v Speaker 1>things in their lives, perhaps the most important. And by

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<v Speaker 1>now many of you would already know that maintaining a

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<v Speaker 1>good lifestyle, eating well and exercising regularly is crucial for

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<v Speaker 1>being healthy. In fact, preventing yourself from getting health problems,

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<v Speaker 1>doctors say, is much better than trying to treat them.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely, prevention is always better than cures, So that has

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<v Speaker 2>been the suggestion by doctors. And of course all these

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<v Speaker 2>lifestyle changes that we do talk about is towards preventing

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<v Speaker 2>any serious ailment.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the Indian expresses Anonadat, who covers health for the paper,

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<v Speaker 1>and she tells us that besides our lifestyle, another key

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of what they call preventative health is regularly going

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<v Speaker 1>to the doctor, which for a lot of people can

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<v Speaker 1>be a fairly anxious experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, a lot of people might hesitate to go to

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<v Speaker 2>a doctor. In fact, most people tend to go to

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<v Speaker 2>a doctor only when they have some health problem or

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<v Speaker 2>something that's bothering them, So routinely going for a health checkup.

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<v Speaker 3>Is not something that a lot of people do.

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<v Speaker 2>However, what doctors tell me is that there is an

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<v Speaker 2>increasing trend, especially after the pandemic, people have become more

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<v Speaker 2>serious about remaining healthy rather than you know, going to

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<v Speaker 2>the doctor when they have any ailment or any problem.

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<v Speaker 2>So more and more people are getting preventative health checkups

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<v Speaker 2>and going to doctors for a visit without any condition.

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<v Speaker 1>And an apart from the fact that you can probably

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<v Speaker 1>catch something in time, one would imagine that it probably

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<v Speaker 1>also saves a lot of money, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It does, yes, So I will take the example of

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<v Speaker 2>say cancer you detected early, treatment would be much easier.

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<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't need you know, second line therapies and difficult surgeries,

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<v Speaker 2>so the cost of treatment goes down. I took cancer

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<v Speaker 2>because that's like quite an extreme example, but that's true

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<v Speaker 2>of most conditions. Even for say diabetes, you would require

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<v Speaker 2>lower doors of medicines. You can start your lifestyle intervention

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<v Speaker 2>quick enough, and in fact, in some people who are

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<v Speaker 2>early on or people who are pre diabetic, it can

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<v Speaker 2>actually reverse. So detecting early of course makes you healthy, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>but also brings down your cost of treatment and cost

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<v Speaker 2>of disease that you would experience through the life.

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<v Speaker 1>So listeners, in this episode, we are taking a break

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<v Speaker 1>from our usual programming to bring you a complete guide

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<v Speaker 1>on what to keep in mind when going for a

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<v Speaker 1>health checkup based on your age, sex and lifestyle. Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Chushang Bargin and you're listening to three Things the

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<v Speaker 1>Indian Express News show, so Anona. When we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>regular health checkups, at what age do doctors recommend you

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<v Speaker 1>start doing them?

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<v Speaker 2>So typically doctors would say that at around the age

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<v Speaker 2>of thirty years you start getting certain screening done. But

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<v Speaker 2>more and more over the last decade or so, doctors

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<v Speaker 2>are now noticing a lot of heart attacks and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And young men.

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<v Speaker 2>So even at the age of about twenty five or so,

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<v Speaker 2>people are experiencing heart attacks, which means they also are

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<v Speaker 2>likely to have other conditions that lead to heart attacks,

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<v Speaker 2>like hypertension or diabetes. All these diseases are happening at

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<v Speaker 2>a younger age now, which is why doctors suggests, at

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<v Speaker 2>least for men, that you start getting screened at about

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five, you start doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>Women can relate a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>More, but at around the age of thirty, I think

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<v Speaker 2>people should start getting their regular health checkups done.

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<v Speaker 1>And should people have a goal in mind, You know,

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<v Speaker 1>while getting a health checkup. Is there an end goal

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<v Speaker 1>so to say?

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<v Speaker 3>So, there is no end goal per se.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't have to be that we have to have

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<v Speaker 2>a certain number on a test.

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<v Speaker 3>That is not the goal.

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<v Speaker 2>The goal is that you keep a record of how

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<v Speaker 2>your health has been for years together, so in case

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<v Speaker 2>when you have a condition, your doctor knows exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>has been going on in your body. And also it's

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<v Speaker 2>a way to sort of keep yourself in check. You

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<v Speaker 2>would know that, okay, my sugar is going up, so

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<v Speaker 2>then you would take steps accordingly and you would intervene early.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's also like keeping in mind what is going on.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, there shouldn't be an end goal that, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all my numbers have to be perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not a report.

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<v Speaker 1>Card, okay. So if you're a man, you started twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a woman, you started thirty. So what should

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<v Speaker 1>a typical health check up for these ages look like?

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<v Speaker 2>So there are three key tests that you have to get.

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<v Speaker 2>One is of course checking your blood pressure. The second

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<v Speaker 2>is checking your blood glucose levels, and you can do

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<v Speaker 2>an HbA one C to see how they have been

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<v Speaker 2>over say a three month period. Then the other thing

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<v Speaker 2>is checking your cholesterol levels. So these three because these

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<v Speaker 2>are risk factors for several other diseases. It can lead

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<v Speaker 2>to a heart attack, it can lead to long term

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<v Speaker 2>chronic heart diseases, it can lead to a stroke. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's risk factor for a host of diseases. So these

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<v Speaker 2>three are the key tests that you should get and

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<v Speaker 2>that would keep you informed about how your whole system

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<v Speaker 1>Also, when we talk about these three tests, what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of importance do they have in the Indian context?

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<v Speaker 2>These tests are extremely important, especially in India, Like I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>we get heart attacks and hypertension as well. We get

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<v Speaker 2>it a decade younger than our Western counterparts. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we would see people very young at you know, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five getting heart attacks. And if you get a heart

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<v Speaker 2>attack at twenty five, you are much more likely to

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<v Speaker 2>die than if you get a heart attack at say fifty,

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<v Speaker 2>And there are signs behind it. That's because by fifty

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<v Speaker 2>you develop these you know, different blood vessels in your

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<v Speaker 2>heart that could carry the blood even if there is

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<v Speaker 2>a lockage in one particular vessel.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is something that seems so counterintuitive because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one would imagine that if you're older, you're more at

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<v Speaker 1>risk and if you're young, you know you should be

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<v Speaker 1>able to take it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and which is why we need to say that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it is essential that you get your checkups

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<v Speaker 2>done even when you're young, because if you get a

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<v Speaker 2>heart attack at a young age, you're much more likely

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<v Speaker 2>to die. So it is counter intuitive, but at a

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<v Speaker 2>older age you do have these other blood vessels that

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<v Speaker 2>can save your heart muscles even if one of them

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<v Speaker 2>gets blocked.

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<v Speaker 3>Which you do not have as a younger person.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, if one vessel gets blocked, it's blocked

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<v Speaker 2>and your heart muscle dies, so you're much more likely

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<v Speaker 2>to die in such a heart attack.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we've got a blood glucose levels, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>a blood pressure, we've got a cholesterol What other things

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<v Speaker 1>should one be looking at?

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<v Speaker 3>Other than that?

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<v Speaker 2>The doctors recommend that you could get all your the

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<v Speaker 2>basic blood tests, which if you go to any of

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, testing centers or hospital, they have a

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<v Speaker 2>list of tests that you can get in a single.

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<v Speaker 1>That draw and is that CBC. Basically CBC.

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<v Speaker 2>You can also do like KFT LFT to know how

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<v Speaker 2>your liver is functioning. So all of these tests are

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<v Speaker 2>not as necessary as I mentioned the three key tests,

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<v Speaker 2>but these are something that you can do to again

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<v Speaker 2>keep a track of how your organ systems are behaving

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<v Speaker 2>and in case you have a problem later on, then

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<v Speaker 2>these can be referred to.

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<v Speaker 1>And we shouldn't stereotype young people, but a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>young people do develop certain bad habits. I mean there

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<v Speaker 1>is eating poorly, but also smoking and drinking can start

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<v Speaker 1>at an early age. Is there any particular thing that

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<v Speaker 1>especially those who smoke and drink should keep in mind

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<v Speaker 1>while getting these tests?

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<v Speaker 2>So the left, for example, would tell you how your

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<v Speaker 2>liver is doing based on how much you are drinking.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the again big problems that we're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>in India, again a decade earlier than the Western counterparts,

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<v Speaker 2>is the non alcohol fatty liver disease, which is essentially

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<v Speaker 2>you getting fat around your liver, but that's not happening

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<v Speaker 2>because of your drinking habit. And then there is of

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<v Speaker 2>course alcoholic fatty liver disease, where you get the fat

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<v Speaker 2>because of drinking. Now people might think, okay, it's just fat,

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<v Speaker 2>why is it important. It's because that fat actually leads

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<v Speaker 2>to a lot of inflammation in the liver and so

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<v Speaker 2>it becomes carred and once it's carred, it doesn't do

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<v Speaker 2>its function properly, which means you start losing bits of

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<v Speaker 2>your liver and you would end up in a bad

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<v Speaker 2>state and could even require a transplant. And also if

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<v Speaker 2>your liver gets injured, you're much more likely to get

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<v Speaker 2>than liver cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>And right now we're basically talking about both men and women.

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<v Speaker 1>But are there any specific things that young women should

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<v Speaker 1>include as part of their health cut.

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<v Speaker 3>Cups, definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>So now, of course there's a lot of talk about

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<v Speaker 2>HPV vaccination, but when I was growing up, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>as common.

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<v Speaker 3>I do not have a SVV vaccination done.

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<v Speaker 2>So for women who haven't been vaccinated, it is very

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<v Speaker 2>important that they get pap smear tests done. This will

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<v Speaker 2>detect any pre cancerous lesions that they might have and

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<v Speaker 2>it has been shown to reduce the mortality due to

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<v Speaker 2>cervical cancer. And cervical cancer is very common, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>the second most common cancer among women in India.

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<v Speaker 1>And again something related to young people, you know, those

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<v Speaker 1>who are sexually active, especially those who might have had

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<v Speaker 1>multiple partners, anything they should look.

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<v Speaker 2>Out for, I mean, getting tested for sexually transmitted diseases

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<v Speaker 2>is very important and of course being safe while doing

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<v Speaker 2>any activity, so they have to take protective measures other

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<v Speaker 2>than that. Of course, there's a panel that you would

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<v Speaker 2>get at any of the testing centers. They would offer

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<v Speaker 2>an STD panel. That's good enough if you get it done,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, depending on how sexually active you are. But

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<v Speaker 2>I guess once a year should be good for that too.

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<v Speaker 1>And what about the other checkups we are talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we basically looking at getting them done annually?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So people have different recommendations for different conditions. So

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<v Speaker 2>let's start again with cancer. If you have a family

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<v Speaker 2>history of different cancers, then you would require more frequent

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<v Speaker 2>checkups than somebody who doesn't. So say, if you get mammography.

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<v Speaker 2>Mammography is usually recommended at the age of forty to

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<v Speaker 2>about sixty nine, you would do an annual checkup if

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<v Speaker 2>you are at risk of getting breast cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you don't have family.

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<v Speaker 2>History, et cetera, so you can do that at about

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<v Speaker 2>say two years or five years gap you can do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So then there's cervical cancer. So for cervical cancer pap

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<v Speaker 2>smear tests that is recommended, say about once in three years,

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<v Speaker 2>and that again you have to keep doing till about

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<v Speaker 2>the age of fifty or sixty years, which is when

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<v Speaker 2>you have the highest risk of getting cervical cancer, and

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the tests. Of course, that would be

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<v Speaker 2>good if you do it annually.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So right now we are talking about people between

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<v Speaker 1>the ages of twenty five and thirty thirty five maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>But when do things change? What is the next age

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<v Speaker 1>group we should be looking at? When other tests are

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<v Speaker 2>So, like I mentioned three key tests, as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>You would start getting the other tests a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to add on those tests if you haven't

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty is usually when you would say fifty plus you

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<v Speaker 1>And this age group forty to fifty, I suppose that's

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<v Speaker 1>when you're also at the highest risk for kidney diseases, diabetes,

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<v Speaker 2>So this is the age where you would see these

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<v Speaker 2>diseases the most, but you know, the damage happens much earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>of your health, you would already know how you are doing,

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<v Speaker 2>so it won't necessarily drastically change during this age group.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, we do see a lot of heart attacks, stroke,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of cancers as well happening in this age group.

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<v Speaker 1>And what about after fifty when we're talking about say

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<v Speaker 2>So like I mentioned, for men, you have to do

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<v Speaker 2>prostate cancer screening. For women you have to start doing

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<v Speaker 2>heart checkups because once they hit their menopause, their risk

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<v Speaker 2>of heart attacks is similar to men because estrogen plays

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<v Speaker 2>a protective role, and untill they're menstruating, there's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more protection that they have than men. They can

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<v Speaker 2>still have heart attacks. It's not that they can't have

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<v Speaker 2>a heart attack. At thirty, it's much less likely than

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<v Speaker 2>a man. But once they hit menopause, that's when their

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<v Speaker 2>protective effect of the hormones go away, so you are

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<v Speaker 2>as likely to get heart attack. So that is something

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<v Speaker 2>that women have to keep in mind.

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<v Speaker 1>And the screening for breast cancer continue at this age.

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<v Speaker 2>So for breast cancer you would screen it till about

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<v Speaker 2>sixty nine years of age. Mammography works better when your

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<v Speaker 2>breast issues become loose, so you would do it at

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<v Speaker 2>about I mean, of course you should start doing it

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<v Speaker 2>at forty, especially if you are a high risk patient,

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<v Speaker 2>but in this age group you would get better results,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have to again for I think doctors recommend

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<v Speaker 2>that you do it once in five years if you're

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<v Speaker 2>not at high risk, and it should continue in this

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<v Speaker 2>age group as well. Another very important test that you

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<v Speaker 2>bone density test, because a lot of people start suffering

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<v Speaker 2>from osteoporosis, which is thinning of your bone and which

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<v Speaker 2>makes you prone to breakages. So if you fall, you

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<v Speaker 1>And one thing is that initially it starts out pretty painless, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Yes it is, I mean, you wouldn't realize that you

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<v Speaker 2>have a problem till a lot of your bone has

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<v Speaker 2>already been damaged. And once the bonus damaged, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>growing back. So if you have osteoarthritis, you might need

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<v Speaker 2>of course you can't completely prevent that, but you can

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<v Speaker 2>take steps to reduce bone density loss and that is

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<v Speaker 2>something that the tests can preempt during this age group.

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<v Speaker 1>And now let's talk about senior citizens, those above the

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<v Speaker 1>age of sixty five. What are the things that they

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<v Speaker 1>you know that is vulnerable to a lot of different diseases.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so in the elderly, of course, you'll have the

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<v Speaker 2>risk of all the diseases that we talked about so far.

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<v Speaker 3>You would have heart attack strokes.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, chronic heart conditions would increase by this age.

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<v Speaker 2>You would have osteoarthritis that you have to deal with.

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<v Speaker 2>This is also an age group where you would start

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<v Speaker 2>seeing a lot of dementia, Alzheimer's. These Again, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a very definitive test, right Like, it has to be

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<v Speaker 2>detected by family members who recognize that you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a problem in your cognition, and then they take you

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<v Speaker 2>to the doctor. So this is something that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>geriatric clinics should screen for. And that's why it is

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<v Speaker 2>important that you're in touch with your doctor through this

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<v Speaker 2>age group. So you get screened for any cognitive impairment

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<v Speaker 2>that you have. Again, you get screened for all the

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<v Speaker 2>bone related issues because the risk of faults go up

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<v Speaker 2>a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>In the elderly.

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<v Speaker 2>You are faced with muscle loss, so you're losing strength

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<v Speaker 2>which will keep you stable, so you're much more likely

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<v Speaker 2>to fall and also break your bones when you fall.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a lot of hip fractures that you see.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, the surprising thing is if you have

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<v Speaker 2>a hip fracture, your risk of mortality goes up, surprisingly.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, because a lot of people after they get a

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<v Speaker 1>hip fracture, they get bed ridden.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so they would remain in bed and then of

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<v Speaker 2>course that would lead to a lot of conditions. And

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<v Speaker 2>with elderly people, the problem is they have several conditions together,

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<v Speaker 2>so managing it becomes difficult. You have to create a

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<v Speaker 2>perfect balance of the medicines, of the kind of lifestyle

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<v Speaker 2>that they're following, the kind of food that they are having,

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<v Speaker 2>and anything changes.

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<v Speaker 3>And it all goes for a toss.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's very essential that the elderly actually go to

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<v Speaker 2>geriatric clinics and you know, keep screening things, keep check

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<v Speaker 2>on whether all their conditions are managed, whether you know

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<v Speaker 2>the blood glucose levels are in control, whether you know

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<v Speaker 2>cholesterol levels are in control, because it's very easy for

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<v Speaker 2>everything to go wrong, right and.

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<v Speaker 1>This is also the age when your vision and you're

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<v Speaker 1>hearing deteriorates, and so a lot of geriatric clinics they

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<v Speaker 1>also take care of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so geriatric clinics.

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<v Speaker 2>I will talk about one specifically at the All India

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<v Speaker 2>Institute of Medical Sciences in Delhi. They have center for

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<v Speaker 2>Geriatric Care and they do a bunch of tests as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as anybody comes to them, which would include, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>looking at whether people are able to balance themselves and

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<v Speaker 2>if they have, say balance issues, that could be loss

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<v Speaker 2>of muscles. It could be because of your vision, it

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<v Speaker 2>could be because of your hearing, because hearing also is your.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, how you walk out, you balance yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>So all of that is screened for as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>you go into the clinic.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other thing to keep in mind about this

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<v Speaker 1>age group are the vaccinations that they can benefit from,

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<v Speaker 1>like the flu shot and the shingles vaccine that you

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<v Speaker 1>recently wrote about.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually so again in the elderly. Two things.

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<v Speaker 2>One is they are at a higher risk of getting

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<v Speaker 2>the infection and getting a very severe disease when they

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<v Speaker 2>get an infection. Two, they are already suffering from, like

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned, a lot of comorbidities so again, as we

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<v Speaker 2>saw with COVID, if you have these comorbidities, you're much

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<v Speaker 2>more likely to die of an infection. So there is

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of infections that we see in the elderly

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<v Speaker 2>and infections that kill them as well. For example, let's

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<v Speaker 2>take a very simple infection like urinary tract infection. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a big problem in the elderly. You know, once they

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<v Speaker 2>get it, it's extremely difficult to treat and in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>people have to get hospitalized to take care of it.

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<v Speaker 3>So infections are a big challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>But uts, for example, are very common in younger women

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<v Speaker 1>as well. But why is it harder to treat them

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<v Speaker 1>in the elderly.

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<v Speaker 2>The antibiotics just don't seem to work as well, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, especially if you are in a hospital, then

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<v Speaker 2>again you have the risk of getting other infections while there,

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<v Speaker 2>so it just becomes very difficult to treat. And the

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<v Speaker 2>immune system is not the same as it was when

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<v Speaker 2>you're thirty. So all of these things come together to

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<v Speaker 2>make it very difficult to treat infections in the elderly,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why it's better to prevent the infection, and

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<v Speaker 2>there are several vaccines that are recommended for elderly. One

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<v Speaker 2>is of course the flu shot which comes every year,

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<v Speaker 2>and that reduces the risk of the seasonal influenza.

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<v Speaker 1>And the risk of hospitalization as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so this is not about preventing of course, it

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<v Speaker 2>is about preventing the infection, but it's mainly about stopping

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<v Speaker 2>them from getting a severe disease, getting hospitalized and dying

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<v Speaker 2>off the condition. So you get influenza vaccine. There's also

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<v Speaker 2>neumococcal vaccine that can be given to prevent.

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<v Speaker 3>Pneumonia in the elderly.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there is this shingles vaccine which has I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it has existed before, but recently there was a new

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<v Speaker 2>vaccine that has entered the market, so now there is

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<v Speaker 2>more evidence to show that apart from shingles, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a recurrence of the infection that causes chicken pox, so

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<v Speaker 2>the second time around, it's a painful rash over one.

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<v Speaker 3>Side of your body. Of course, this vaccine prevents.

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<v Speaker 2>That, but also there's now some evidence to show that

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<v Speaker 2>it reduces the risk of dementia. It protects the heart

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<v Speaker 2>somewhat about so there was a study from South Korea

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<v Speaker 2>recently which showed that it protects the heart for up

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<v Speaker 2>to eight years after vaccination. So because you're already suffering

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<v Speaker 2>from a lot of conditions, these vaccines also help in

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<v Speaker 2>preventing the infection and keeping you healthy from these other

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<v Speaker 2>conditions as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And we were talking about vision in relation to the elderly,

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<v Speaker 1>but how often should younger people go to an eye doctor?

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<v Speaker 2>So that would depend on how good your eye is,

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<v Speaker 2>do you have power, do you have certain conditions, because

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<v Speaker 2>some people would have I mean, dry eye is something

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<v Speaker 2>that's become very common now because of the use of

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<v Speaker 2>computers and screens.

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<v Speaker 3>Essentially, then once you get.

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<v Speaker 2>Slightly older, you would also have conditions like glaucoma and

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<v Speaker 2>cataract that would happen. So again these are conditions which

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<v Speaker 2>you have to keep an eye on. So it suggested

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<v Speaker 2>about once in two years you should definitely go to

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<v Speaker 1>And the other thing we haven't talked about is our

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<v Speaker 1>oral health. Now, there is this old adage that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you should visit the dentist every six months, and recently

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<v Speaker 1>that has been questioned. So how often should one go

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<v Speaker 1>to the dentist.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, that would depend on the condition of your teeth

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<v Speaker 2>and whether you have certain problems that you're already suffering from.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have problems, you would have to go more

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<v Speaker 2>frequently to ensure that there is no deterioration in your condition.

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<v Speaker 2>But in general, for a healthy individual, you can go

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<v Speaker 2>like once a year or once in two years, and

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<v Speaker 2>that should be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>And we are talking about all these health checkups and

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<v Speaker 1>now a lot of places end up recommending these whole

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<v Speaker 1>body CT scans and MRIs for screening cancer. Should one

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<v Speaker 1>get those done?

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<v Speaker 3>No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>These are highly specialized tests and you should do it

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<v Speaker 2>only when your doctor recommends it, and the doctor would

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<v Speaker 2>wreck commend if they are suspecting something.

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<v Speaker 3>Blindly doing a test does not.

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<v Speaker 2>Help because it's likely to throw up stuff which may

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<v Speaker 2>not be important at all, which may not be affecting

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<v Speaker 2>you at all, but now you know that there is something,

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<v Speaker 2>and you'd be worried about it for no reason. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>there has been an ongoing discussion about, you know, whether

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<v Speaker 2>been spotted on a pet city. Now the problem is

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<v Speaker 2>that cancer might not I mean, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>say cancer because people get scared whenever.

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<v Speaker 3>We say cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>But some tumors are actually not growing and it would

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<v Speaker 2>take years for it to grow and cause you any problem,

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<v Speaker 2>and you might just be healthy and you might not

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<v Speaker 2>need any kind of intervention for those tumors. But now

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<v Speaker 2>that you've seen it, you can't do anything about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a challenge. So going in blindly does not help.

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<v Speaker 2>It should be recommended by your doctor. Again, depending on

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of symptoms you're experiencing and whether that whatever

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<v Speaker 2>is there in your body is actually causing you any trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>That's when you get those specialized tests.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, what's the harm if someone does want

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<v Speaker 1>to get that tumor removed, even if it's not growing,

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<v Speaker 1>they might not want that thing inside.

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<v Speaker 2>Them because any kind of surgery that you do, you're undergoing,

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<v Speaker 2>you're under anesthesia, you would have a cut, you would

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<v Speaker 2>have to suture that. So that's a trauma for the body.

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<v Speaker 2>And why do it when you don't need it and

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<v Speaker 2>it comes with a lot of risks. No surgery is

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<v Speaker 2>without its risks, So you know, you can be that

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<v Speaker 2>one in like a million complication and that can happen,

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<v Speaker 2>So why do it unless it's absolutely necessary?

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<v Speaker 1>And and a lot of people get these home tests

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<v Speaker 1>done right, especially when it comes to blood work. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you can receive the reports and usually they provide a

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<v Speaker 1>healthy range. Right now, Obviously, if something is off, you

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<v Speaker 1>would go to the doctor. But what if everything is right,

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<v Speaker 1>should you still go to the doctor.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you should definitely go to a doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I say that you should have preventative health screening,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's tests plus going to a doctor who

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<v Speaker 2>would actually look at those tests, who would look at

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<v Speaker 2>how you're living your life, what all is going on

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<v Speaker 2>in your life, and make a diagnosis based on that. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you can check your numbers against the parameters given, but

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<v Speaker 2>they might see something that you cannot, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>years of training, they've seen so many cases. So here

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<v Speaker 2>I would cite an example of this. One doctor told

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<v Speaker 2>me about a case where a man in his say forties.

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<v Speaker 2>The only problem in his test parameters was a slightly

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<v Speaker 2>lower hemoglobin count, and it wasn't too low. It was

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<v Speaker 2>like nine or ten, which is within the normal range.

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<v Speaker 2>But usually men do not have a very low hemoglobin count.

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<v Speaker 2>And combined with weight loss and other lifestyle changes that

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<v Speaker 2>he'd seen in that patient, he just asked that patient

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<v Speaker 2>to get a colonoscopy and turned out he didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>colon cancer, so.

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<v Speaker 3>You will miss that. That's why there's an expert there.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, a couple of tests that we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. One is your serum calcium and victimin D test,

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<v Speaker 1>iron test, and your thyroid profile. How important are these ones?

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<v Speaker 2>So these are some things that you would see in

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<v Speaker 2>the normal blood panel that you get done. Thyroid test

486
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<v Speaker 2>is important again because we have a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>who live with hypothyroidism and that's a problem.

488
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<v Speaker 3>You would need medication for that.

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<v Speaker 2>But usually in that case, you start feeling certain, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like you will feel lethargic, you'll start putting on weight,

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<v Speaker 2>so you do have a trigger to you know, get tested.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we talk about serum calcium. That's again something that

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<v Speaker 2>has to do with your bone health. It would tell

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<v Speaker 2>you how you're doing there. But one test that you

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<v Speaker 2>raise which is very important is the vitamin D levels,

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<v Speaker 2>which is low for I think everybody who gets the

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<v Speaker 2>test done, I mean everybody gets a result of flow

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<v Speaker 2>vitamin and you would be recommended vita mean you get

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<v Speaker 2>those shots or you even get tablets, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 3>But there is an ongoing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, debate in there because some people say that

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<v Speaker 2>these levels were decided based on a not very good

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<v Speaker 2>data at that point, and B also most of it

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<v Speaker 2>was based on you know, Western populations, not Indian population.

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<v Speaker 2>We do not know what a good vitamin D level

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<v Speaker 2>is for Indian population. So there are doctors who would

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<v Speaker 2>say that there is an impact on say your blood

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<v Speaker 2>glucose levels, there's an impact on your bone health. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>vitamin D does a lot of these processes in the body,

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<v Speaker 2>but there is no consensus on how much is the

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<v Speaker 2>good amount that you need to keep you know, these

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<v Speaker 2>other conditions at bay.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's that ongoing debate about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But for now, if it's not harming, I would say

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay, you can take the vitamin D supplements.

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<v Speaker 1>And no, no, no. We've been talking about the benefits of

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<v Speaker 1>getting a health checkup done, but what are its limitations?

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<v Speaker 1>What are the things that a health checkup can't do

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<v Speaker 1>for you?

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the big questions is that, okay, now

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<v Speaker 2>you know the numbers, then what and then what is

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<v Speaker 2>the same In any case, you have to manage your

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<v Speaker 2>life cell that's the recommendation after most of these numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>So your cholesterol level is high, you have to exercise,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to eat right your BP is high, same,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to reduce your salt intake perhaps if your

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<v Speaker 2>sugar is high. Yes, you have to avoid you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the sweet foods, certain other fruits, et cetera. And exercise

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, make these lifestyle changes. So yes, most

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<v Speaker 2>of the time the intervention remains the same, but it

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<v Speaker 2>is just a way to keep a check on what

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<v Speaker 2>is going on in your body, which is why you

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<v Speaker 2>do these preventive checkups. And of course you know, to

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<v Speaker 2>pick up certain things that might be going wrong. But well,

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<v Speaker 2>in most cases it's all right, and that's the limitation.

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<v Speaker 2>People do not want to get tested because yes, everything

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<v Speaker 2>is fine, but it's a record of your health and

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<v Speaker 2>it is important to keep checking it for that once

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<v Speaker 2>that it would not be normal.

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<v Speaker 1>You were listening to Three Things by the Indian Express.

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