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Speaker 2: I feel it is our duties as the sports voices
Speaker 2: of Central Florida to have these conversations every few months
Speaker 2: about how to handle yourself and your fandom. And I
Speaker 2: can say that just scrolling through my timelines on social media,
Speaker 2: I am seeing way too much about secondary fandom having
Speaker 2: a second favorite team. If you have a second favorite team,
Speaker 2: and maybe you've got a really good reason for it.
Speaker 2: For instance, if a baseball team came to Orlando, that
Speaker 2: would become my favorite baseball team, but I would still
Speaker 2: be an Orioles fan. I've been a fan my whole life.
Speaker 2: I grew up in Baltimore. You just keep that stuff
Speaker 2: to yourself. It is unbecoming of a man to have
Speaker 2: two favorite teams. It is more socially acceptable to have
Speaker 2: two wives than to have two teams. I would be
Speaker 2: more understanding of. You know, you're bouncing back and forth
Speaker 2: between both spouses. You got kind of a Mormon thing
Speaker 2: going on. Then you're out here wearing a Braves hat
Speaker 2: one day and a Marlin's hat the next, and not
Speaker 2: just because you think it's stylish, but because those are
Speaker 2: your teams.
Speaker 3: It doesn't work like that.
Speaker 2: You have to be monogamous with your with your sports
Speaker 2: teams and your brackets. But we'll save that conversation for March.
Speaker 2: But I wanted to expand this conversation beyond the obvious
Speaker 2: unwritten rule of multi team fandom, because all of us
Speaker 2: sports fans have teams that we just have an affinity for,
Speaker 2: and it might not be your favorite team. It's not
Speaker 2: necessarily an organization or even a logo that you cheer for,
Speaker 2: but a squad that you love watching, that you found
Speaker 2: yourself pulling for in a moment in time.
Speaker 1: And that is.
Speaker 2: The text question and the talkback question that I'm going
Speaker 2: to throw your way right now. So this can't be
Speaker 2: your favorite team. That would not qualify in any sport,
Speaker 2: it has to be a team that you have found
Speaker 2: yourself pulling for during a period of time. For me,
Speaker 2: the first team that comes to mind when I discussed
Speaker 2: this is the New Orleans Saints with Drew Brees as
Speaker 2: their quarterback. I loved watching those teams play. I love
Speaker 2: how methodical and blosive those offenses where they were fantasy gold,
Speaker 2: and Drew Brees was just a really likable player. So
Speaker 2: that's the first one that comes to mind for me.
Speaker 2: Just to give you an idea of what it is
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. I'm a Dolphins fan. I was not
Speaker 2: a Saints fan, but I was a fan of that team.
Speaker 2: They were on National TV a lot because they were
Speaker 2: exciting and they played a brand of football that I
Speaker 2: really enjoyed. I was enjoyed watching Saints games, and I
Speaker 2: found myself pulling for them more often than not.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of one without local ties, because
Speaker 4: growing up in Florida, it was I strongly disliked most
Speaker 4: Florida teams as a Boston sports fan, but kind of
Speaker 4: the some of the teams that I didn't feel that
Speaker 4: towards that it was always I really did hope that
Speaker 4: they won, but if they didn't, then okay, it wasn't
Speaker 4: really going to affect my life. And it was the
Speaker 4: two in the NFL being the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and
Speaker 4: the Jacksonville Jaguar and the Orlando Magic in the NBA. Now,
Speaker 4: there was a period in my life where the Magic
Speaker 4: and the Celtics when the Magic were competitive, and it
Speaker 4: was like, okay, you know where things stand when those
Speaker 4: two face off. But I was, you know, I went
Speaker 4: to maybe two Magic games in my life where the
Speaker 4: Celtics weren't in town and it was just a weekend
Speaker 4: in Orlando and you go to a Magic game. So
Speaker 4: those teams kind of fall into the bucket. I'm really
Speaker 4: torn on North Carolina basketball in the twenty tens because
Speaker 4: that was my introduction to college basketball to the extreme
Speaker 4: of what I am now. It was those teams in
Speaker 4: the mid twenty tens, Bryce Johnson, Marcus Page before they
Speaker 4: won the national championship in twenty sixteen or seventeen, those
Speaker 4: were the teams that drug me into college basketball. And
Speaker 4: I would say that I was a North Carolina fan
Speaker 4: from that point on. When Chris Jenkins at the shot
Speaker 4: for Villanova, I fell to the floor because my team
Speaker 4: in that scenario had lost.
Speaker 1: That has mellowed out a ton.
Speaker 4: Now I will root for Carolina over Duke in every scenario,
Speaker 4: but outside of that, North Carolina basketball doesn't necessarily affect
Speaker 4: my life. So that's certainly one that could be up
Speaker 4: for consideration. But I did become a fan of college basketball,
Speaker 4: and I did not have any other college basketball team
Speaker 4: at that time, I had no connection to anything so.
Speaker 2: Well for me, and I don't think that counts because
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about I think every sports fan has some
Speaker 2: version of that story. I was a kid in the
Speaker 2: mid nineties that fell in love with the two most
Speaker 2: obvious teams in the NFL and in the NBA.
Speaker 3: I was a.
Speaker 2: Bulls Jordan Pippen fan, and I was a Dallas and
Speaker 2: I was a Dallas Cowboys fan.
Speaker 3: And I was a fan.
Speaker 2: I mean I had the jerseys, I had the action figures,
Speaker 2: had the you know, the hats and all of that.
Speaker 2: I was a full fledged fan. But I was ten,
Speaker 2: so I was a front runner. It was the kid
Speaker 2: that you see at the Kia Center when Steph is
Speaker 2: in town rocking the Warriors jersey, even though he lives
Speaker 2: in Winter Park.
Speaker 3: You know I was that.
Speaker 2: I was that kid until I realized that that you
Speaker 2: just can't operate that way. And both of those teams
Speaker 2: got a whole lot less interesting very fast after their
Speaker 2: star players left. One of the ones for me that
Speaker 2: really qualifies with what we're talking about here is the
Speaker 2: Warriors before they won a title. I loved watching the
Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors. It was like it was like being
Speaker 2: a fan of the the grunge band before they get
Speaker 2: big and have major hits.
Speaker 3: Twenty twelve twenty.
Speaker 2: Thirteen, they animated into the playoffs back to back seasons.
Speaker 2: They were the most fun team to watch in the NBA.
Speaker 2: And that was before you took them seriously. Oh went
Speaker 2: back and look at some stats just to remind myself
Speaker 2: who else was on those teams. That was early Steph
Speaker 2: Curry before you thought of him. He was just an
Speaker 2: exciting offensive player. You didn't think of him as one
Speaker 2: of the best players in the NBA. They didn't win
Speaker 2: until twenty fourteen. David Lee was their second leading scorer
Speaker 2: on those teams. But those early Warriors teams, they were
Speaker 2: so much fun.
Speaker 3: I was. I was very attracted to that brand of basketball.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's probably the best example that I should have
Speaker 4: gone to immediately. One of my first NBA jerseys, the
Speaker 4: first NBA jersey that was not a Celtics jersey.
Speaker 1: It was a Steph Curry jersey.
Speaker 4: Festus is ze Lee another name to throw out on
Speaker 4: the mix, Monte Ellis in the mix in early Steph
Speaker 4: Curry's career. But yeah, that was the prime example of
Speaker 4: the team that I was not a fan, but I
Speaker 4: enjoyed watching them until they started to win and then
Speaker 4: it was like, okay, there is zero fandom tied to
Speaker 4: this in the slightest but definitely the early stages of
Speaker 4: Steph Curry in Golden State, it was the most entertaining
Speaker 4: thing to watch that wasn't one of my teams. And
Speaker 4: at that time, you think about the twenty eleven Twelve
Speaker 4: Days and the big trade that sent all the Boston
Speaker 4: Stars to Brooklyn in twenty thirteen and Allen heading down
Speaker 4: to Miami, like there was kind of a lull in
Speaker 4: Boston basketball where I was still a Celtics fan, but
Speaker 4: I loved watching some Golden.
Speaker 1: State Warriors before they got too big. So that is
Speaker 1: a great example.
Speaker 2: The Chicago Cubs in twenty sixteen, I was all in
Speaker 2: on that.
Speaker 3: I wanted to see that team win the World Series,
Speaker 3: and they did.
Speaker 2: Chris Bryant, Anthony Rizzo, those guys, that's definitely on a list.
Speaker 2: It's hard to not become an honorary Cubs fan when
Speaker 2: it's convenient. If you've been to Wrigular Field, that place
Speaker 2: will suck you in.
Speaker 3: It's so cool.
Speaker 2: And I've been fortunate enough to have been there twice,
Speaker 2: and I believe that was prior to twenty sixteen. So
Speaker 2: I was kind of like in love with the the
Speaker 2: aura of the Cubs and excited to go back by
Speaker 2: the way end of July, going back to regular field.
Speaker 2: And then the last one that I wrote down that
Speaker 2: popped into my mind was the Suns in the Bubble.
Speaker 2: Remember how much fun that bummer was unconscious for a month?
Speaker 2: The best bubble team they were eight and h and
Speaker 2: Devin Booker was named Bubble MVP. It was a weird time,
Speaker 2: but it was I enjoyed the Bubble.
Speaker 3: I needed that in my life at the time.
Speaker 4: You could argue in some twisted way that it was
Speaker 4: the most enjoyable basketball ever in our lifetime. Outside Okay,
Speaker 4: and I'll say I miss Jordan, So maybe Jordan just
Speaker 4: out of his peak. Could probably, But you think about
Speaker 4: how starving we all were. I was watching NBA players
Speaker 4: play two k at that time, just to get some
Speaker 4: sports action. And speaking of MJA, the last dance got
Speaker 4: us through that. But the actual basketball that was played
Speaker 4: in the bubble like it could be the most desirable
Speaker 4: basketball since two thousand. It could be. I'm not saying
Speaker 4: it is. I'm just saying with how hungry we all
Speaker 4: were for sports.
Speaker 2: Somebody said that the Lions after watching them on Hard Knocks,
Speaker 2: this friend of the show, Adrian, Yeah, completely agree. I'm
Speaker 2: still cheering for the Lions. Yeah, that is a team
Speaker 2: that you feel good about, what real untill they win
Speaker 2: and then we're going to be off of them immediately,
Speaker 2: right real quick before we go.
Speaker 4: Just to get back to the overall what we see
Speaker 4: more often than not with the two teams and the
Speaker 4: justification of why you can be a fan of two
Speaker 4: different teams. What do you think the rules are of
Speaker 4: where are you allowed to be a fan of two teams?
Speaker 4: And what are some cases where I don't care you
Speaker 4: like you? There's no reason that you can be you.
Speaker 2: Can't you you can in your in the privacy of
Speaker 2: your own home. You can do whatever you want, but
Speaker 2: don't public You can't publicize it. You cannot claim two teams.
Speaker 2: It doesn't work like that an areo. You gotta pick
Speaker 2: one the second if you have a favorite team and
Speaker 2: then another team becomes your favorite team, because it never
Speaker 2: happens at once. You don't choose two teams at the
Speaker 2: same time. So there's a team that comes first that's
Speaker 2: your favorite team, and then for some reason, maybe you moved,
Speaker 2: maybe you became infatuated with a player, whatever it is,
Speaker 2: you now have another one. You've now dropped the last one.
Speaker 2: If you add a new favorite team, your old favorite
Speaker 2: team is no longer your favorite team. So don't go
Speaker 2: walking around. I'm a Rams fan, I'm a Bucks fan,
Speaker 2: which is by the way, one of the texters says
Speaker 2: you're one or the other, and at home you can
Speaker 2: golf clap for both teams, but when you communicate with
Speaker 2: other sports fans, you gotta pick one. You can't have
Speaker 2: two teams. It's the unwritten rule. I don't see any
Speaker 2: scenario where that doesn't play.
Speaker 4: I think that there can be some examples, but for
Speaker 4: the most part that I agree with you, AND's in
Speaker 4: college athletics, where I think you can get away with
Speaker 4: it the most because in the guess what, in professional sports,
Speaker 4: everyone plays everyone, so it's not well, I like they're
Speaker 4: my Eastern Conference team, then then I I'm a fan
Speaker 4: of this team in the West, No, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: you get a team, okay. In the NBA, everyone plays everyone.
Speaker 4: Where I think you can get away with it in
Speaker 4: college athletics is first of all, I don't care who
Speaker 4: you cheered for growing up. Your undergrad is your team,
Speaker 4: all right, And I think that that is number one.
Speaker 4: If you grew up cheering for Florida FSU and you
Speaker 4: went to UCF, UCF is your team. Vice versa. If
Speaker 4: you grew up cheering for UCF, God love you. If
Speaker 4: you went to Florida, Florida is your team. And that's
Speaker 4: how i'd That's how I would hope it would be.
Speaker 4: The cases where you can get away with it is
Speaker 4: if you go to undergrad at one place and grad
Speaker 4: school at another, if they are in different time zones,
Speaker 4: in different leagues, then you can be then you can
Speaker 4: claim both. I know a girl FSU for undergrad you
Speaker 4: DUB for grad school University of Washington.
Speaker 1: There was a scenario where those teams.
Speaker 4: Those two teams would have played in the college ball
Speaker 4: playoff a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: That's where things get messy.
Speaker 4: But if that's what it takes, is getting down to
Speaker 4: the final four for your teams to square off with
Speaker 4: one another, then I still give you a pass. You know, okay,
Speaker 4: like you have you can have two teams in that moment,
Speaker 4: like and you.
Speaker 3: Still have a favorite.
Speaker 2: There's there's always gonna be one that means more to
Speaker 2: you than the and that's your team. It's like your kids,
Speaker 2: but your kids. But see, that's where sports teams aren't
Speaker 2: gonna be offended. You can't look at your kids and go, honestly,
Speaker 2: the first one is just better.
Speaker 3: So that's the way you can't do that. You can
Speaker 3: do that with sports teams, and that is where you should.
Speaker 3: I I agree.
Speaker 2: What you just brought up is as close an example
Speaker 2: as you can get to. But cheering for a team
Speaker 2: or hoping that a team does well, or having an
Speaker 2: affinity for a team and them being your favorite team
Speaker 2: are two different things. There's the favorite. The word favorite
Speaker 2: means the best one. It's like, uh Stefan has brought
Speaker 2: this up in the past. You can't use goat. For
Speaker 2: everybody there's a goat. It's greatest of all time. They're
Speaker 2: are like to pluralize goats, which people do all the time,
Speaker 2: makes no sense. And having multiple favorite teams makes no sense.
Speaker 2: You either have a favorite team or you don't.
Speaker 1: Your undergrad school is your school. I want everyone to
Speaker 1: keep that in mind.
Speaker 3: I agree with that.
Speaker 4: I'm sick of these I'm in Gainesville front of the
Speaker 4: I'm still in the younger demographic right, So if you're
Speaker 4: in a student section at twenty four and you're great
Speaker 4: and you've already graduated, whatever, so not a big deal.
Speaker 4: But I'm sick of people in Gainesville front center, rowdy,
Speaker 4: biggest fan ever one Saturday and then the following Saturday,
Speaker 4: you're back in Orlando. Whoo my lum go team. No no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: pick one one or the other. And if you went
Speaker 4: to one front grad one for grad school, you still.
Speaker 1: Just gotta choose. Gotta choose. The home buying process is
Speaker 1: a bear.