1 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to side Quest. This is our weekly 2 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,359 video game show here at Geek Versus. I'm your host, 3 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,679 Hill must and I have with me Taylor Field of 4 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,079 Fields the Great. How are you doing today, Brent? Great? 5 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,120 I had that. 6 00:00:32,799 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: I'm doing good. Happy to be here. It's you know, 7 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,640 as far as mondays go, this is a it's a 8 00:00:37,679 --> 00:00:38,399 banger Monday. 9 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got you, got the kid to bed nice 10 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,520 and early and starting podcasts a little early. We got 11 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,200 some fun games and news to talk about, so can't complain. Yeah, 12 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,200 today we're gonna talking about Halo a little bit. There 13 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,880 was some news that was not all recent. It was like 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,240 two or three weeks ago now, but we haven't had 15 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,039 a chance to sit down and talk about it yet. 16 00:00:55,119 --> 00:00:56,640 We're talking about some of the games we've been playing, 17 00:00:57,479 --> 00:01:00,320 including Resident Evil three for me, you have fifty Little 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,079 Bit and then the big, big, main new game that 19 00:01:03,159 --> 00:01:06,519 came out here is Super Mario Party Jamboree, so we're 20 00:01:06,519 --> 00:01:07,959 gonna talk about that as well. So it should be 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,840 a fun, fun episode and I'll save the plugs for 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,000 Lade later. We'll just get right into it first up, Taylor, 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,239 do you want to talk a little I want to 24 00:01:17,239 --> 00:01:18,000 talk a little Halo. 25 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:19,239 Speaker 2: I'd love to. 26 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: Halo is in a that's a weird spa right now, 27 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,439 right because the show came out, the second season came 28 00:01:26,439 --> 00:01:29,719 out earlier this year, they announced that was the last season, 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,480 so it's canceled. It's done now. And then Halo the 30 00:01:33,519 --> 00:01:35,879 game series, Like, there hasn't been any spinoffs recently, so 31 00:01:35,879 --> 00:01:38,920 it's just Halo Infinite still, which I feel like, I 32 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,040 don't know, like, when's the last time you booted up 33 00:01:41,079 --> 00:01:42,640 Halo Infinite yourself? 34 00:01:44,159 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: Oh man? I mean I beat the campaign early on, 35 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,719 and I've played multiplayer here or there. Yeah, but I've 36 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,519 never I haven't had something to really pull me in. 37 00:01:52,599 --> 00:01:55,280 I know that they try and do the the their 38 00:01:55,359 --> 00:01:57,760 version of like the Battle Pass with the seasons. I 39 00:01:57,799 --> 00:01:59,599 think there's one going on right now for Halloween, but 40 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,000 it hasn't really pulled me in. 41 00:02:02,079 --> 00:02:04,519 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I guess the Halloween stuff that usually 42 00:02:04,519 --> 00:02:06,519 grabs you, like when I think about Call of Duty 43 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,479 is more fun crossover IP stuff, and I feel like 44 00:02:09,479 --> 00:02:12,400 Halo's never delved into that. It's more just it's a cool, 45 00:02:12,479 --> 00:02:15,280 scary advisor for helmets. 46 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:15,879 Speaker 2: And that kind of stuff. 47 00:02:16,319 --> 00:02:18,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's interesting. I think The last time I 48 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,639 booted up Infinite was probably this year last winter. I 49 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,560 was playing quite a bit of multiplayer, and I think 50 00:02:25,719 --> 00:02:27,479 the battle pass thing that brought me in around that 51 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,800 time was like the Halo three map pack situation where 52 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,599 they've cycled in a bunch of Halo three maps that 53 00:02:32,599 --> 00:02:34,319 were I think all made in Forge, so they weren't, 54 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,680 you know, true authentic whatever, but they it's pretty crazy 55 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,319 what the Forge mode is capable of. But yeah, that 56 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:41,680 was the last time I jumped in, and I feel 57 00:02:41,719 --> 00:02:44,520 like it has been a pretty simmery kind of thing, 58 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,560 Like it launched weird, where like different things came out 59 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,919 at different times, campaign versus multiplayer versus co op campaign 60 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,360 and all these things, and I feel like it never 61 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,400 really got its footing. And I think it's in like 62 00:02:54,439 --> 00:02:56,599 a decent place now. But I think when you compare 63 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,000 it to other big shooter games out there, like the Fortnite, 64 00:03:00,039 --> 00:03:02,919 It's or apexes and Destinies and things like that that 65 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,919 are kind of the live service type things, I feel 66 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,919 like Halo doesn't really hold a candle to them right now. 67 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,400 That's at least what it seems like for me and 68 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,199 Xbox is kind of weird. Like they don't share all 69 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:15,319 their numbers anymore. So yeah, and then that kind of 70 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,080 leads us into there was a couple announcements recently, or 71 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,400 really one kind of I don't even call it a leak, 72 00:03:20,439 --> 00:03:23,439 but one thing that came out, and then some announcements, 73 00:03:23,439 --> 00:03:25,599 and the announcements being that three four three, which is 74 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,879 the studio that made Halo Infinite and Halo five, did 75 00:03:28,879 --> 00:03:31,120 they make four as well? I guess they would have, right, 76 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,360 I think they would have, Yeah, because everything past Halo 77 00:03:33,479 --> 00:03:37,120 odst is just post Bungee. It's all three four to three, right, Yeah. 78 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,960 So anyway, they've now been rebranded as a studio to 79 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,199 Halo Studios, so pretty obvious what they're gonna be working on. 80 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,240 They announced that they were working on multiple projects right now. 81 00:03:46,639 --> 00:03:49,039 And another big thing is that they're switching from the 82 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,800 slip Space Engine, which is what they had been using. 83 00:03:51,879 --> 00:03:54,840 It's their own homemade engine. They're switching over to Unreal 84 00:03:54,879 --> 00:03:56,520 Engine five, which of course is kind of the big 85 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,960 new flashy engine right now, and that's what you know 86 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,479 Fortnite and all sorts of other huge big games used. 87 00:04:02,479 --> 00:04:04,319 And it's a great engine with a lot more support 88 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,319 than like one that they have to maintain and tinker 89 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,800 with themselves to be able to do the different features 90 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,960 that they want with it. So yeah, I don't know. 91 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,520 Did you have any takeaway when you were reading through 92 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,120 some of those articles or like seeing this thing, like 93 00:04:14,479 --> 00:04:18,160 mainly even just like three four three being renamed Halo Studios, 94 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,720 Like did that do anything for you as a big 95 00:04:20,759 --> 00:04:21,839 fan of this franchise. 96 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: It's just the evolution of the studios. You have Bungee, 97 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,040 and then you have Bungee, like a part of it 98 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,639 breakoff into three four three, and now we've evolved into 99 00:04:32,079 --> 00:04:37,160 Halo Studios. The I like that they dedicated themselves as 100 00:04:37,399 --> 00:04:40,399 by the name Halo Studios. I think that it's okay, Yeah, 101 00:04:40,439 --> 00:04:43,000 we've got a team that's really just dedicated to making 102 00:04:44,319 --> 00:04:45,959 I mean that's what three four three was dedicated to 103 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,319 making Halo games. But the name change to me sounds like, Okay, 104 00:04:49,319 --> 00:04:51,319 we aren't done with Halo yet. We just put out 105 00:04:51,319 --> 00:04:53,319 another game a couple of years ago, but hey, we 106 00:04:53,439 --> 00:04:55,879 are going to be investing a lot more time into 107 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,000 this and as you said, multiple games in the works. 108 00:04:59,519 --> 00:05:03,160 I have one that I am just hoping they are doing. 109 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,519 I'm hoping I get that Halo Wars three. I am 110 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,800 just praying to God, I get Halo Wors three with 111 00:05:08,879 --> 00:05:11,639 space battles, with everything. Oh my goodness, please give it 112 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:11,879 to me. 113 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: Well, let's stop on that one real quick. So maybe 114 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,560 you know this off top of your head the studios 115 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,439 that made Halo Wars one and two, because I believe 116 00:05:18,439 --> 00:05:21,959 it was different studios, right, Yes, So Halo Wars two 117 00:05:22,079 --> 00:05:24,199 I know was made by Well, I guess that one 118 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,040 was three four to three in conjunction with Creative Assembly. 119 00:05:28,079 --> 00:05:29,600 I remember us talking about that when we did the 120 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,079 Alien Isolation retrospective that they worked on that, but three 121 00:05:33,079 --> 00:05:34,759 four three is also tagged on that, so I don't 122 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,439 know what. I guess it was a co developed thing. 123 00:05:37,079 --> 00:05:39,000 And then the first one was Ensemble Studios, and I 124 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,680 can't remember what they've made in the pasth okay, looks 125 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,279 like Age of Empires. It was the Age of Empire 126 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,920 Studio that came in and made that. So yeah, would 127 00:05:45,959 --> 00:05:49,240 you want considering that now they've rebranded to this and 128 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,720 three four three is now Halo Studios, Like I would 129 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,199 expect that they and they said how they're working on 130 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,240 multiple projects right now. I would expect that Halo Studios 131 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,000 would be the one to make that game rather than 132 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,720 them getting like an out of the out of house 133 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,399 studio to make that while they work on like the 134 00:06:03,399 --> 00:06:05,600 first person Shooter. But what do you think is that 135 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,399 what you would want? Would you want three for three 136 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,240 or now Halo Studios to make that next entry in 137 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:10,720 the series. 138 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 2: I would absolutely, I mean you put on that Unreal 139 00:06:13,759 --> 00:06:17,319 Engine five. I mean, holy smokes, Like I think they 140 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,560 there are some great, great studios out there that have 141 00:06:21,879 --> 00:06:24,160 I mean a they have mastered that craft and those 142 00:06:24,199 --> 00:06:27,040 total war games are pretty fire. But I think at 143 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,160 the same time, like I'm totally open to them just 144 00:06:30,199 --> 00:06:31,839 kind of taking under their own way and keeping it 145 00:06:31,879 --> 00:06:33,639 in house and just seeing what they can really do 146 00:06:33,759 --> 00:06:39,000 with it. Yeah, It's it's maybe a little controversial because 147 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,600 I'm sure other people would probably say, like, oh, just 148 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,160 keep it, like if other people are better at doing it, 149 00:06:43,199 --> 00:06:46,879 then let the professionals do it. But I'm down to 150 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,480 give them, give them a first benefit of the doubt. 151 00:06:50,079 --> 00:06:51,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean they are tagged as a developer 152 00:06:51,879 --> 00:06:53,680 on that second game as well, so who knows to 153 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,120 what extent, Like the people that are still at Halo 154 00:06:57,199 --> 00:06:59,639 Studios like worked on that game it's always tricky because 155 00:06:59,639 --> 00:07:02,519 they're Another thing with with Halo Studios previously three or 156 00:07:02,519 --> 00:07:05,519 three is we've heard so much turnover and leadership changes 157 00:07:05,519 --> 00:07:08,519 and stuff. So it's like a ship of theseusness. Like 158 00:07:08,519 --> 00:07:10,480 I don't even know if like the studio that made 159 00:07:10,519 --> 00:07:12,879 that is like the same people that are there today. 160 00:07:13,879 --> 00:07:17,600 But it's it's interesting because I feel like after Halo Infinite, 161 00:07:17,639 --> 00:07:19,399 as much as I really love Halo infant, I never 162 00:07:19,399 --> 00:07:21,800 got around to the campaign because the co op thing 163 00:07:21,879 --> 00:07:23,519 was delayed and I just have not got around to 164 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,319 going back to it. But I played a lot of 165 00:07:25,319 --> 00:07:27,120 the multiplayer and really really enjoyed it. I think it's 166 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,759 really fun, great map design, good new features. Like I 167 00:07:30,839 --> 00:07:33,240 kind of skipped I never played five. I played a 168 00:07:33,279 --> 00:07:34,680 bit of four, but I kind of get out for 169 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,519 the series for a while and if it's really fun, 170 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,800 and I still I'm not in game pass right now, 171 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,040 but when I'm back in there, like it's kind of 172 00:07:40,079 --> 00:07:41,759 one of those things I just always have downloaded on 173 00:07:41,759 --> 00:07:43,680 the console and I jump in a play and play 174 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,839 a game every once in a while. Even then though 175 00:07:45,879 --> 00:07:48,079 I was still kind of maybe I don't know hoping's 176 00:07:48,079 --> 00:07:50,279 the right word, but was expecting or maybe wishing for 177 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,079 that the next Halo game would be made by someone else, 178 00:07:53,199 --> 00:07:56,240 just to have like some fresh, some fresh eyes on 179 00:07:56,279 --> 00:07:58,000 the project. I feel like three of over three was 180 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,519 stuck in this kind of thing where they're had such 181 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,519 high expectations thrown at them and like they could never 182 00:08:03,639 --> 00:08:06,240 quite get it, and like they're still trying to find 183 00:08:06,279 --> 00:08:08,120 that they're still trying to find that huge Halo game 184 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,879 of their own, and especially now, like since even the 185 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,199 release of that series X or Halo Infinite and now 186 00:08:14,319 --> 00:08:16,879 just like the amount of new studios that Xbox owns, 187 00:08:17,199 --> 00:08:19,319 I was like, man, they have so many developers that 188 00:08:19,399 --> 00:08:21,959 could play in that sandbox, like I like throw it 189 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,720 at it, Like the Doom developers. Give them a Halo game. 190 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,759 I know they make a very different style of fps, 191 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,959 but if you give them a Halo they're not gonna 192 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,600 make a super fast paced jump off the walls thing. 193 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,200 Like they're gonna make a Halo game and they're just 194 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,840 gonna put their own spin on it. And so I 195 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,320 guess I kind of was hoping for someone else to 196 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,279 maybe take the reins and try the next game out, 197 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,000 and you know, you could still have maybe they'd still 198 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:44,759 be working on infinite in, you know, just as they're 199 00:08:44,799 --> 00:08:46,879 going along. But that's kind of what I wanted, But 200 00:08:46,919 --> 00:08:48,840 it sounds like that's probably not gonna happen anymore. I 201 00:08:48,919 --> 00:08:51,360 kind of just assume that everything is gonna be Halo 202 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,440 Studios going forward. The Halo Wars thing you mentioned, like, 203 00:08:54,519 --> 00:08:57,639 where do you think that is one of the projects 204 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,000 that they're working on right now? How likely do you 205 00:09:00,639 --> 00:09:01,200 put that on. 206 00:09:02,519 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 2: I'm still flabbergasted we got Halo Wars two. I'll never 207 00:09:05,879 --> 00:09:10,440 forget that. That unveiling back when we're watching it E three, 208 00:09:10,519 --> 00:09:11,799 I think is when they did it and they just 209 00:09:11,879 --> 00:09:14,559 dropped it, and that was just one of the biggest 210 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:19,320 highlights of at that conference. But that having been the case, 211 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:24,480 I will say that my expectations are low, but it 212 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,080 very well happened. I think there's still there's a high chance, 213 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,440 even though my expectations are low, that it could happen. 214 00:09:30,919 --> 00:09:35,360 And I think that the big thing with that with 215 00:09:35,399 --> 00:09:38,360 Halo Wars and all these other games is I think 216 00:09:38,399 --> 00:09:40,240 it's really just the story at this point. Well, there's 217 00:09:40,279 --> 00:09:42,720 obviously a huge as you were just elaborating that, the 218 00:09:42,799 --> 00:09:47,279 multiplayer following is definitely there, and the sad thing for me, though, 219 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,919 is I think that there's probably a lesser amount of 220 00:09:49,919 --> 00:09:52,519 people to really engage with the story because I feel 221 00:09:52,519 --> 00:09:55,559 like the story is a little sporadic and spread around 222 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,279 right now. Halo four did a great job at kind 223 00:09:59,279 --> 00:10:03,600 of reintroduced the story, a Halo five was just I 224 00:10:03,639 --> 00:10:05,200 didn't kind of picking up off of that and just 225 00:10:05,279 --> 00:10:08,240 kind of limping itself along but in an entertaining way. 226 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,879 And then Halo Infinite was kind of just it felt 227 00:10:12,919 --> 00:10:17,840 like a kind of Halo Infinite is great in its 228 00:10:17,879 --> 00:10:20,600 story because it took some of my most favorite parts 229 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,360 of Halo Warst two and Halo Worst two are introduced 230 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,600 the Banished, and it was super cool to see this faction, 231 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,080 and that's the main enemy you're dealing with in Halo Infinite, 232 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,559 and so I think. 233 00:10:32,519 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: They'd heard of the Banish. That's a whole new concept 234 00:10:35,039 --> 00:10:35,240 to me. 235 00:10:35,399 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: It's a whole new concept. So basically, the like the Covenant, 236 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,159 they had this brute chieftain called Atriochs and they'd sent 237 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,600 him out on these basically suicidal missions, and he kept 238 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,799 coming back and then he started to get kind of 239 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,919 popular and followers. Then he started to just really just 240 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,000 hate the Covenant, so he became this rival thing. So well, 241 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,320 the Covenants fighting Humanity, they're also fighting him. He's raising 242 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,399 their warehouses and stuff and their their weapons and just 243 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,679 becomes this powerhouse and so he's hit. The Banished is 244 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,759 the main faction you're fighting in Halo Infinite? 245 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: Okay okay? Yeah, Like is Greg part of the Banish? 246 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,759 Like that the Infamous? Okay? Okay, gotcha? That makes sense? Gotcha. 247 00:11:14,919 --> 00:11:17,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's there's a that is a whole rich story, 248 00:11:17,759 --> 00:11:19,360 and I feel like Halo Wars two really did a 249 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,200 great job of kind of reviving and creating a really 250 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,879 awesome storyline. Halo Infinite really does acts the story that 251 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,559 Halo five was introducing. Halo five is just its own 252 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,879 weird thing that just didn't really take off. But yeah, 253 00:11:32,919 --> 00:11:34,399 I just think at the end of the day, if 254 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,799 they can create a game with that just compelling story 255 00:11:36,879 --> 00:11:39,120 doesn't have to span over a trilogy. It could just 256 00:11:39,159 --> 00:11:43,919 be basic Halo Reach for example, just a banger of 257 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,840 a game, great multiplayer, fantastic storyline campaign. That's something that 258 00:11:48,879 --> 00:11:51,320 they need to kind of like touch back down and revisit. 259 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,559 Even ods T which isn't my favorite, but that's a 260 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,440 storyline that many people really really like very unique. Yeah, 261 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,519 so I think that they need to just kind of 262 00:12:00,159 --> 00:12:02,240 pump the brakes and kind of draw back to something 263 00:12:02,279 --> 00:12:06,480 that's a little bit more simple, whatever that is. I 264 00:12:06,519 --> 00:12:09,240 don't know. I you gotta be careful because if you 265 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:12,039 were to do something like flood oriented, maybe that could 266 00:12:12,039 --> 00:12:14,120 get a little repetitive. You don't want to do something 267 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,559 dead spacey because like as a marine where you're dealing 268 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,000 with the flood on a ship, because I mean, that's 269 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,639 been done before already. But there's, as you said, there's 270 00:12:21,639 --> 00:12:23,600 a sandbox there. There's a whole world that could be 271 00:12:23,639 --> 00:12:25,600 tapped into, and if you have the right people and 272 00:12:25,639 --> 00:12:28,759 the minds behind it, then you've got you got a 273 00:12:28,759 --> 00:12:29,879 lot of opportunity. 274 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,639 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah. I feel like even then, like they 275 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,399 just really need to make sure when they release this 276 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,159 next Halo game that it has everything all at once. 277 00:12:39,279 --> 00:12:41,399 When you get the game, it has the campaign, it's 278 00:12:41,399 --> 00:12:44,879 got the multiplayer, it's got the Forge mode built in there. 279 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,600 I feel like that's such a big deal to have 280 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:49,000 all that stuff. But I don't know, maybe they just choose, 281 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,279 like in this current landscape, to go about it differently. 282 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,360 Maybe when they're talking about multiple projects. They're talking about 283 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:57,440 having a Halo campaign game and it's just a campaign, 284 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,399 just new single player content, and that's just a thing. 285 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,559 And they can do that because the game pass model 286 00:13:01,639 --> 00:13:03,399 kind of lends to that, and it can be like, 287 00:13:03,799 --> 00:13:05,399 I don't know, let's call it forty bucks to get 288 00:13:05,399 --> 00:13:07,399 this new campaign thing if you're outside of game Pass, 289 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,279 and then just have this multiplayer thing that they keep 290 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,679 working on in perpetuity, which Infinite was supposed to be that. 291 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,919 But I think just because of this engine change, I 292 00:13:15,919 --> 00:13:17,879 feel like Halo Infinite is not gonna last as long 293 00:13:17,919 --> 00:13:20,320 as they originally talked about or as long as we 294 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,519 expected as fans, and also because the game didn't explode 295 00:13:22,519 --> 00:13:24,519 as much as they would have wanted. But I feel 296 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,519 like that's maybe the idea now is like, Okay, we're 297 00:13:26,799 --> 00:13:29,039 in Unreal Engine five. It can do more things we 298 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,039 wanted to do. Ideally, it can make them do things 299 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,600 quicker as well, and that's when they can kind of 300 00:13:34,639 --> 00:13:36,919 relaunch the try their Infinite too, you know, don't call 301 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,120 it that head of course, but come up with a 302 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,600 new name and really just in earnest try again with 303 00:13:40,639 --> 00:13:44,600 this more live servicey side of Halo, And I don't 304 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,559 know if that's what fans really really want, but I 305 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,639 think that maybe that's gonna be a big incentive here 306 00:13:49,639 --> 00:13:52,120 coming from Unreal Engine five, because that seems like a 307 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,240 big change. The other thing I could be along with that, 308 00:13:54,279 --> 00:13:56,200 and Xbox fans might not be happy about this is 309 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,919 I'm sure Slipspace Engine was an engine built for Xbox 310 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,559 and for PC and not for PlayStation. And you know, 311 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,679 they're a big part of the Xbox strategy now is 312 00:14:06,159 --> 00:14:08,639 get games on PlayStation, so that I'm sure Unreal Engine 313 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,440 five is a lot friendlier and easier for them to 314 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,559 port a game over there too. So if it is 315 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,960 an all online multiplayer thing, you know, it's good to 316 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,799 have that as in as many hands as possible, and 317 00:14:17,879 --> 00:14:20,559 limiting that to just Xbox, which is the worst selling 318 00:14:20,559 --> 00:14:23,240 console between the big two there, Like, I think it 319 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,120 would make sense if they launched the next one day 320 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:26,799 and date, maybe not even date date, just a few 321 00:14:26,799 --> 00:14:29,080 months later on PlayStation, get that cross play going on 322 00:14:29,559 --> 00:14:31,200 and on Real Engine five. Maybe it makes it a 323 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,120 lot easier. So I'm sure everything I've just said makes 324 00:14:34,159 --> 00:14:36,840 you want to vomit in your mouth, Taylor Field, But 325 00:14:37,519 --> 00:14:39,679 like that could be a very viable strategy if they 326 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,200 want to make Halo a huge first person shooter. Again, 327 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,399 I think cross play is a huge part of it, 328 00:14:45,519 --> 00:14:47,879 and you need to get on the bigger console. Who 329 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,080 maybe they'd switch to could run it. Probably not, but 330 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,720 maybe maybe it could. Who knows, mm hmm. Yeah. 331 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,919 Speaker 2: And I think they kind of put their feelers out 332 00:14:55,919 --> 00:14:58,440 with that by bringing it back to PC, right originally 333 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,679 when it was just on Xbox, then brought it over. 334 00:15:00,759 --> 00:15:03,639 And yeah, it's funny because like my brother in law, 335 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,399 he loosely mentioned he's playing Halo, like, oh, what did 336 00:15:06,399 --> 00:15:08,480 you get an Xbox? Like no, No, No on PC? Like 337 00:15:08,519 --> 00:15:12,399 oh okay, cool, yeah, right on. So it's neat that 338 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,519 they've been making things like that available, and you're right 339 00:15:14,559 --> 00:15:16,440 they if they want to kind of tap into that market, 340 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,960 then they should maybe go cross platform. I remembered and 341 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,879 I'm not sure if you had seen anything on this, 342 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:30,559 but there was a recently confirmed Battle Royale Halo, Yes, 343 00:15:30,639 --> 00:15:31,679 but it was canceled. 344 00:15:32,039 --> 00:15:33,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was another thing here that because that's been 345 00:15:33,759 --> 00:15:36,919 rumored for a long time. But we finally got loose 346 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,159 confirmation ish or earlier this month from a guy who 347 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,080 was at three four three at the time. Now he's elsewhere, 348 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:44,759 and he talked about how one of the things he 349 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,639 was developing there was a Halo Battle Royale, and they 350 00:15:47,639 --> 00:15:49,360 really liked it internally, it was a lot of fun, 351 00:15:50,039 --> 00:15:52,720 and it just got scrapped somewhere along the way, probably 352 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,679 because they saw it and maybe had like two more 353 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,639 years development on the on it, and that's expensive to 354 00:15:57,879 --> 00:16:00,840 keep funding. Maybe they just that was gonna be as 355 00:16:00,879 --> 00:16:03,559 good as the competitors or something in the space. And honestly, 356 00:16:03,559 --> 00:16:05,639 that was another thing for me when I read that, 357 00:16:05,919 --> 00:16:07,679 and I was reading these two articles in conjunction of 358 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,600 the Battle Royale thing and then the information of them 359 00:16:10,639 --> 00:16:12,879 switching Unreal Engine five, I was like, Oh, maybe that's 360 00:16:12,879 --> 00:16:15,320 what it is like maybe slip space. Maybe it was 361 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,639 just struggling to have these huge games with a ton 362 00:16:17,679 --> 00:16:21,399 of players and what you what you would I guess 363 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,320 expect out of a Battle Royality these days, because I 364 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,879 think different games have different numbers of people, right, Like 365 00:16:25,879 --> 00:16:28,000 I think Apex is maybe like a sixty four player game. 366 00:16:28,039 --> 00:16:31,159 I think Fortnite's one hundred. A call of Duty depends 367 00:16:31,159 --> 00:16:33,799 on the mode sixty one hundred, sometimes even more right 368 00:16:33,919 --> 00:16:35,440 in terms of how many players you have in there 369 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,120 at a time, But maybe that was an issue there, 370 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,039 I was slip space. But we know Fortnite obviously Epic's 371 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,080 Pride and Joy there of course a rounds on nine 372 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,200 Reel Engine five, and we know that it is capable 373 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,480 of doing all that Battle Royale stuff. So I don't know, 374 00:16:48,519 --> 00:16:51,360 maybe that is a part of it. I would be 375 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,039 curious to see, like if they're starting from scratch on 376 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,360 Unreal Engine five, like, are they still going to go 377 00:16:56,399 --> 00:16:58,559 for the Battle Royale thing? Is that still the prime 378 00:16:59,159 --> 00:17:01,320 genre or space to go for or is that like 379 00:17:01,399 --> 00:17:03,960 are those spaces already such predefined with like the people 380 00:17:04,039 --> 00:17:06,720 are already in that space. It's tricky. We've seen so 381 00:17:06,759 --> 00:17:09,519 many battle oils come and go. But Halo is, you know, 382 00:17:09,519 --> 00:17:11,680 one of the biggest gaming ips, and it was a 383 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,680 bigger game and ip them for Fortnite for many years, 384 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,680 and now I feel like Fortnite is bigger, is a 385 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,920 bigger deal with the gaming space than Halo, right obviously 386 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,880 modern wise, but even just legacy to some extent. So 387 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,559 I don't know, that would be an interesting conversation. I wonder, 388 00:17:24,279 --> 00:17:27,119 like that's it's very different demographics, I suppose, but I 389 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:28,680 don't know, do you feel like that's maybe part of 390 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,359 the switch. Do you think they're still gonna try and 391 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,680 work on that in a new engine, because obviously that 392 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,319 guy's like not been at Halo Studios for a while now, 393 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,000 so he probably presumably has no idea what they're working 394 00:17:38,039 --> 00:17:38,400 on now. 395 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that it's definitely something that maybe they 396 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,400 just thought, Okay, yeah, we just we got to put 397 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,160 this on hold because we have new consoles coming around 398 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,359 eventually here and yeah, we got the uh, we've got 399 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,880 a new game engine working on rebranding, like all this 400 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,240 different types of stuff. So I think that there is 401 00:17:56,599 --> 00:17:59,440 maybe still a chance that this could be a reality. 402 00:17:59,559 --> 00:18:03,599 You're right, the competition right now and the it's just 403 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,920 kind of like the the platform for a bal Royals 404 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,640 is pretty full, between your Apex and your Fortnite and 405 00:18:10,759 --> 00:18:12,880 even Call of Duty. Call of Duty's still just going 406 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,000 hard at it. So yeah, it's it's it's not leaving 407 00:18:16,039 --> 00:18:18,000 a lot of room to play with. But Halo is 408 00:18:18,079 --> 00:18:20,640 so unique, right and if you have your four man 409 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:25,599 squad going going up against one hundred and fifty other players, 410 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,400 oh my god, that's just crazy to think about in 411 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,400 a huge like Halo map and then like, yeah, it 412 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,119 blows my mind. 413 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: I think it would work perfectly, especially looking at how 414 00:18:34,519 --> 00:18:36,359 where where war Zone is at now, with like how 415 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,079 many vehicles and things are on the map, and I'm 416 00:18:38,079 --> 00:18:41,279 sure Fortnite has the same thing, and so like Halo 417 00:18:41,319 --> 00:18:43,640 has always been built with the with the vehicle combat 418 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,759 in mind, and I feel like it's much more refined 419 00:18:45,759 --> 00:18:47,799 than something like Call of Duty, which feels very janky 420 00:18:47,839 --> 00:18:50,160 when you're driving around. So that would be really cool 421 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,000 to see, even like the the you know, the banchees 422 00:18:52,039 --> 00:18:55,319 and other aerial ships and things that exist, and like 423 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:56,839 I don't know, and Halo all the time, there's already 424 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,839 like all sorts of air drops coming down with different things, 425 00:18:58,839 --> 00:19:01,160 So I feel like it is just primed and ready, 426 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,240 like you don't really have to think about how to 427 00:19:03,559 --> 00:19:06,519 make the game into a battle just already with the 428 00:19:06,559 --> 00:19:09,440 pieces that already consists of, it would just easily fit 429 00:19:09,519 --> 00:19:11,839 into one. So it's something I would like to see. 430 00:19:11,839 --> 00:19:13,759 And you know, honestly, that is another one. If you 431 00:19:13,799 --> 00:19:16,240 want a battle O Royal to succeed, you got to 432 00:19:16,319 --> 00:19:18,839 be everywhere, And that's another one. I could see that 433 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,680 they would do a date and date PlayStation launch with 434 00:19:21,759 --> 00:19:23,640 that as well. Like I feel like that would be 435 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,920 part of the success there, and that could be the thing, 436 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:30,599 like maybe they in terms of like their PlayStation strategy, 437 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,119 it's like, okay, we'll put multiplayer things on there, like 438 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,880 maybe the next Halo multiplayer situation, the Battle ORIYL. But 439 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,440 then if you want to play Halo campaign only on Xbox, 440 00:19:39,519 --> 00:19:41,960 maybe they keep that as an exclusivity thing Xbox PC 441 00:19:42,839 --> 00:19:44,799 in order to keep like some element of like, hey, 442 00:19:44,799 --> 00:19:47,319 we still you're gonna get if you are a Halo fan, 443 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,920 you should still be buying an Xbox. But you know, 444 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,559 if you're on PlayStation as well and you want to 445 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,640 jump in there, we're not going to stop you. I 446 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,200 think that would make a lot of sense, especially with 447 00:19:56,279 --> 00:19:58,039 like a Bunge is in a really weird spot right 448 00:19:58,079 --> 00:20:01,559 now with Destiny and some of their situations that their 449 00:20:01,559 --> 00:20:04,960 studio going on recently. Obviously they're acquired by PlayStation in 450 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,000 the last couple of years here, so I don't know, 451 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,000 I feel like it would be a pretty decent time 452 00:20:09,039 --> 00:20:11,200 if they can get this Battle rayl out in like 453 00:20:12,319 --> 00:20:13,599 I don't know, within a couple of years. But I 454 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,160 don't know if even who knows how long. They've never 455 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,759 been working on this stuff and they just decide to 456 00:20:17,799 --> 00:20:23,440 announce these big changes recently. But we'll see. Another question 457 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,680 I had for you is just in terms of like 458 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,480 they're talking about how they have multiple projects in the 459 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,880 works right now, we've already just theorized on Like, Okay, 460 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,319 if they split out a campaign versus multiplayer versus battle 461 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,240 round like that technically counts as multiple projects. Talked about 462 00:20:35,279 --> 00:20:38,839 Halo Wars. Is there another spinoff series? Another way another 463 00:20:38,839 --> 00:20:41,720 place you think Halo could grow or has space for. 464 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,119 Is there is a spinoff series I'm forgetting about and others, 465 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,960 Like when I go on Steam sometimes I see random 466 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,799 Halo games I've never heard of. They're called like Spartans Solid. Yeah, 467 00:20:49,839 --> 00:20:51,920 these random mass games. I don't know anything about them, 468 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,640 So I don't know. Is there another Like I'll just say, 469 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,799 like even non first person shooter Halo game that you 470 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,240 that you could could see them be working. 471 00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:02,759 Speaker 2: On right now, the Spartan Assault. I remember when that 472 00:21:02,759 --> 00:21:05,079 first came out and I bought it for my iPad. 473 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,839 It was basically a tablet version. Basically, yeah, you have 474 00:21:09,039 --> 00:21:11,319 it's a top down view of your guy and you 475 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,000 have like your your left trigger, right trigger on the 476 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,119 screen with your thumbs and just move around and shoot. 477 00:21:17,319 --> 00:21:19,240 It's very arcadie. It's a lot of fun. I think 478 00:21:19,279 --> 00:21:24,640 I got a sequel, but as far as it goes 479 00:21:24,759 --> 00:21:29,279 other types of game styles they could do, they did. 480 00:21:29,759 --> 00:21:31,960 Oh gosh, I can't remember the name of it, but 481 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,079 I played. I played quite a bit of it. Gears 482 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:41,640 of War, Oh my goodness, like X Calm Tactics, thank you, Yes, yes, yes, yes, 483 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,920 So I think that there's definitely an opportunity there to 484 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,680 do something Halo wise for that that'd be so much fun. 485 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: That would be that would be sick. I feel like 486 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,480 Halo is, out of all the shooters, so much about positioning, 487 00:21:53,599 --> 00:21:56,599 and that's what tactics games are all about. Repositioning, getting 488 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,119 in the right spot, hide, mind a wall, using this 489 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,440 thing your advantage, like banking grenades of the off different 490 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,200 parts of the environment is such a big part of it. 491 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,519 Bring in a little like vehicle combat, which I can't 492 00:22:06,519 --> 00:22:08,880 think of like a tactics game I've played that has 493 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,400 like vehicles implemented, but I think that would actually work 494 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,039 really well. It makes me wonder how well a game 495 00:22:14,079 --> 00:22:17,319 like Gears Tactics would have sold. And that's a situation 496 00:22:17,319 --> 00:22:19,359 where I don't know which studio made Gears Tactics, but 497 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,160 I would maybe expect that they would let that team 498 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,079 work on that game. But I don't know if now 499 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,759 only Halo Studios is allowed to make Halo games. But 500 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,480 I would love to see that. I feel like there's 501 00:22:29,519 --> 00:22:32,440 a lot already in the DNA of Halo that works 502 00:22:32,519 --> 00:22:34,400 really well for that, as someone who's played a million 503 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,440 Tactics games in my life, So I really like that suggestion. 504 00:22:36,519 --> 00:22:38,480 I'm already picturing it, and now I'm disappointed that it 505 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,920 doesn't exist. I really want that, and I can't really 506 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,920 think of I can't really think of what else. Like, 507 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,079 I don't know what if they did like a Halo 508 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,359 like a cozy builder game, like I feel like Forge 509 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,720 Mode is such a big deal. Maybe there's a lot 510 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,200 of people who are like into Forge Mode but don't 511 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,519 want like a competitive shooter. There's like some building thing 512 00:22:56,559 --> 00:23:00,519 they could do. I'm not sure, like a factory thing 513 00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:03,359 that could be interesting. That'd be kind of fun. Yeah, 514 00:23:03,559 --> 00:23:06,480 but yeah, well, we'll see any other thoughts on the 515 00:23:06,519 --> 00:23:08,200 state of Halo. Does this get you excited all like 516 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,160 you wanted to? I guess we played Halo on the 517 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,799 twenty four hour Shrom last year. That's probably the last 518 00:23:11,799 --> 00:23:14,759 time you booted it up. I think it was, Yeah, 519 00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:16,880 but I don't know. I might when I get game 520 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,359 Pass again, I'll probably redownload it to jump in there. 521 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,839 It's always fun to just play a few rounds of that. 522 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,599 I just I still love Halo. It's still just so 523 00:23:24,839 --> 00:23:27,119 such a unique and fun shooter. In this year, I 524 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,799 feel like no one's really tried to replicate exactly what 525 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,039 makes Halo interesting as a shooter. So I feel like 526 00:23:32,039 --> 00:23:34,400 it still holds its own and it's still interesting. 527 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:40,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it still has that uh that just nostalgia 528 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,200 for me is very very very interesting, And I don't 529 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,480 have anything else to add. I just but in closing, 530 00:23:45,519 --> 00:23:47,640 it does get me really really excited. I think that 531 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,599 this has a lot of potential to just really hopefully 532 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,519 spread their spread their arms out and start tackling some 533 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,079 new and different ideas for Halo, because it needs it. 534 00:23:56,079 --> 00:23:58,240 It really really doesn't. Infinite was a good step in 535 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,680 the right direction, so hopefully they build off of that. 536 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,039 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, definitely, Okay, cool. Speaking of steps in the 537 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,880 right direction, let's talk about our the ways you can 538 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,200 support the show. Patreon is the best place to go 539 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,799 because you can, you know, even for a few pennies, 540 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,799 maybe a few more, may a little bit more than 541 00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:18,400 a few pennies, you can support the show. 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On 551 00:24:43,519 --> 00:24:46,880 November two is our twenty four hour stream where we 552 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,079 do twenty four hours of games and trivia and fun 553 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,359 things like that to support charity the BC Children's Hospital, 554 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,640 So you can join us for that. Check it out, 555 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,680 You can leave a review, help the show grow, You 556 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,480 can join our discord. We're always talking about the latest 557 00:25:02,519 --> 00:25:05,720 and greatest stuff. Any other plugs from me Taylor would 558 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,400 have got going. Last week, we've got a Venom three 559 00:25:07,519 --> 00:25:11,279 review that's gonna be popping out uh, Agatha is going 560 00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:14,680 on the Penguin Show. A lot of TV shows right now, 561 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,480 and I don't know any other shout outs for you. 562 00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 2: H we got well, this is very brief, very brief. 563 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,759 We got the official drop date for Daredevil and so 564 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,119 me and Kirk clin are going to be getting into 565 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,440 the it's official. Yeah, Yeah, we're gonna getting into our 566 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,599 retro for for Daredevil. So I think we're going to 567 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,599 be doing starting December, one season a month. I believe 568 00:25:37,599 --> 00:25:38,680 it was Hope Travis put it. 569 00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:42,279 Speaker 1: So stay tuned for the format. That's a great format. 570 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,880 That's very exciting. I personally am very excited to listen 571 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,920 to that, so I'm sure many of the fans well 572 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,200 as well. Okay, we're gonna throw to our quick first 573 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:56,440 a break, we'll be right back. All right, we are 574 00:25:56,599 --> 00:26:00,680 back Taylor Field. Of course, our main topic is Mario 575 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,920 Party Jamboree. But anything else you've been playing that you 576 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,680 wanted to shout out here? Oh? 577 00:26:05,759 --> 00:26:08,519 Speaker 2: Man, I have. I have not played this yet, but 578 00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:11,799 it's been it's been on my my list of games 579 00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:15,200 to play. So again, all I've really been playing, I've 580 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,640 been trying to play a little bit more Call Duty, 581 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,960 but I've really been wanting to get back into Texas Chainsaw, 582 00:26:20,559 --> 00:26:24,319 and I found out recently that they've axed it off 583 00:26:24,319 --> 00:26:25,160 of games Pass. 584 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm atually nice pun there, but that is too bad. 585 00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:31,359 Yes it is, and I will not play with you 586 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,039 then if it is not. 587 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 2: Well that's yeah. That's the thing. It's funny because my 588 00:26:36,519 --> 00:26:39,000 friend wanted to play frit At thirteenth. I'm like, no, 589 00:26:39,799 --> 00:26:42,559 that game is dead. How about a Texas Chainsaw. I 590 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,960 was like, okay, yeah. So he checks it and he's like, oh, 591 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,519 it's not a games Pass, Like what are you talking about? 592 00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:48,920 Yeah it is. It's like, no, it's not there, and 593 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,599 I googled him, like oh yeah. They removed it very recently. 594 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,440 I guess they just wanted to do like a year 595 00:26:54,839 --> 00:26:57,160 on there and then kind of separate on their on 596 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,000 their own. But they did say that they will eventually 597 00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:02,960 probably come back and drop on games Pass. But this 598 00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:04,880 has really tempted me to actually just pick it up 599 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,000 because it's not an expensive game. It's really really cheap, 600 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:07,680 and it. 601 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: Might be there's a big Halloween sale on Xbox right now, 602 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,880 so I don't know if that's part of that sale, 603 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,680 but if it is, I would actually consider picking it 604 00:27:14,759 --> 00:27:17,119 up if it's like, I don't know, what is it 605 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,519 ten to fifteen bucks? Maybe on sale. 606 00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 2: I think it's around like, well, yeah, I don't know 607 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,359 what it is regular these days, but it might be 608 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,119 something like that. The reason that, another reason why I 609 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,400 really wanted to just get back into it is because 610 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:33,839 they dropped a road map basically for September this September 611 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,640 to February of just new content they're putting in. There's 612 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,319 a new game mode called rush Week, which I have 613 00:27:39,319 --> 00:27:41,119 no idea what it is, but it's supposed to change 614 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,880 it up and make it fun how you play the game. 615 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,640 There's a new family member, a new victim. They're adding 616 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,279 new cosmetic items, executions. They're also adding a new map, 617 00:27:50,519 --> 00:27:53,319 and then what's really cool is they're adding weather variants 618 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,000 for the already released maps. Now, there's a bunch of 619 00:27:56,039 --> 00:27:58,400 other stuff they added prior to this game, but it 620 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,359 just seems like it's really gotten a lot, lot of 621 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,240 really cool updates. And I mean it's been it's been 622 00:28:04,279 --> 00:28:06,119 over a year since I've played it last, and so 623 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,359 all this just really gets me excited. So I really 624 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,240 have just been having a craven to get back in 625 00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:14,119 there and just just see all the new contents that 626 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:14,680 they put in. 627 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,319 Speaker 1: So, yes, it's twenty five bucks right now, and I 628 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,799 don't I don't think that's the sale price. I think 629 00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:21,480 it's just the regular price. So not bad. 630 00:28:21,519 --> 00:28:22,039 Speaker 2: It's not bad. 631 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,799 Speaker 1: No, I could be convinced to do that because yeah, 632 00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:27,319 I've had a great time with that game, and yeah, 633 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,880 we just haven't played in a long time, and as 634 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,720 you said, not a game pass anymore, just too bad. 635 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,119 Do you have any interest in getting back intout Last Trials? 636 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,720 I don't know what they've kind of added, but I 637 00:28:34,759 --> 00:28:36,720 know they have had some patches here or there to 638 00:28:36,759 --> 00:28:38,200 get some new new stuff. 639 00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:41,039 Speaker 2: I am waiting the call when you guys are going 640 00:28:41,079 --> 00:28:44,079 in let me know, like I am totally there. I 641 00:28:44,079 --> 00:28:48,119 would really really enjoy doing some some more trials than 642 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,880 you guys on that because I don't even know if 643 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,000 we got through all like the stage two ones. 644 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: No, I mean, yeah, we got through every map on 645 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,680 that you have first play through, and then there's a 646 00:28:56,759 --> 00:28:59,839 higher difficulty stuff that I think we hadn't quite finished yet. 647 00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:02,160 There's and I don't know if they've added I hope 648 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,480 they've added a little bit more some new levels or 649 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,519 variations on the ones that are already there. I'm not sure. 650 00:29:08,519 --> 00:29:10,640 I haven't looked into it, but I was talking at 651 00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:12,839 Kirkle last week I played throughout Last two. That was 652 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,160 a that was an interesting time. 653 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,279 Speaker 2: Oh very very nice. 654 00:29:16,559 --> 00:29:18,359 Speaker 1: So if you want to hear my thoughts, go listen 655 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,519 to last week's episode of side Quest. I don't want to. 656 00:29:20,519 --> 00:29:22,440 I don't want to bore the fans by sharing my 657 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,240 takes two weeks in a row. But yeah, I've played 658 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,480 every Outlast game this year, the whole trilogy for the 659 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,640 first time, so it's quite quite the year of Outlast. 660 00:29:31,759 --> 00:29:34,319 But yeah, that's a good shout out for Texas. Any 661 00:29:34,359 --> 00:29:36,359 other things or is that that's all for this week? 662 00:29:39,519 --> 00:29:42,319 Speaker 2: That is it? Okay, Yes, that's it. 663 00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:45,119 Speaker 1: I got two shot outs here. One is my UFO 664 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,000 fifty game of the Week. This last week I finally 665 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,200 played some multiplayer in UFO fifty, which is not built in. 666 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,440 But what you can do is Steam remote play. Have 667 00:29:54,519 --> 00:29:57,160 you ever used Steam remote playing Taylor and all your 668 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,039 years on Steam? 669 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,359 Speaker 2: No? Yeah? 670 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: You essentially can just like screen share to a friend. 671 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,240 They don't need to own the game, and then you 672 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,400 if you can both like, it'll register both your controllers 673 00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:09,279 and I haven't used this in years, and last time 674 00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:11,920 I did it was like pretty janky. But using it 675 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,079 this last week, zero latency, it works perfectly. It's like, 676 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,680 of course, the you know, the coldest take of all 677 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,480 time is that Steam is an amazing service. But yeah, 678 00:30:20,519 --> 00:30:22,440 Steam does it again. Their steamer will plays great. You 679 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,920 don't even need to own the game. So if anyone 680 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,599 wants to plouy UOFO fifty with me, let me know. 681 00:30:25,599 --> 00:30:27,640 You don't even have to buy it. I just you 682 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,119 should buy it. But but all I need to do 683 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,519 is own it. So yeah, and this last week, I've 684 00:30:31,519 --> 00:30:34,319 played a bunch of the co op games, Like about 685 00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:36,319 half the games in the collection have co op to 686 00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:38,319 some extent, and some of them in really surprising ways, 687 00:30:38,359 --> 00:30:43,039 which is cool. I actually recorded another podcast for someone 688 00:30:43,119 --> 00:30:45,319 brought me on to talk about UFO fifty. That episode's 689 00:30:45,359 --> 00:30:49,240 not out yet, so I'll announce that improper when when 690 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,400 it's out, because I just can't stop talking about this game. 691 00:30:51,599 --> 00:30:53,279 But my one game of the week's shout out here 692 00:30:53,319 --> 00:30:55,279 is going to be Bushido Ball. I hadn't go to 693 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,680 this one up yet because I thought it was like 694 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,680 a multiplayer focus sort of one, and it definitely is. 695 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,799 The setup of this game is it's it's kind of 696 00:31:02,839 --> 00:31:04,680 like wind jammers if you've ever played that, which is 697 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,839 what the host on the podcast I was on compared to, 698 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,880 which is a great, great comparison. But also it's just 699 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,319 like you know, it's just like tennis or pong or 700 00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:14,079 like a simple thing like that. You're hitting the ball 701 00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:15,519 back and forth, you're trying to get it through the 702 00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:17,680 other person's side, and then when you get a certain 703 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,880 amount of points, you win. The setting of it is 704 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,160 kind of like a feudal Japans or a situation where 705 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,400 you're playing as these different sam Like one of the 706 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,400 guys has like a full suit of armor and most 707 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,039 of them are kind of wearing like the Japanese like 708 00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:31,200 kmodo kind of thing, and and they all have like 709 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,599 their different move sets. But it's just so much fun. 710 00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:36,599 There's so many little details in there. The ball, the 711 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,240 physics of the ball that you're hitting back and forth 712 00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:41,519 are really interesting because sometimes it'll just like lose momentum completely, 713 00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:43,039 so like it's not like pong in that way where 714 00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:45,720 it's always moving at a constant rate. It'll sometimes just 715 00:31:45,759 --> 00:31:47,720 fall on the ground and you'll get like a demerit, 716 00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:49,200 Like the refer will come in here if you're like 717 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,480 stalling for too long, so the referee comes into a 718 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,119 really interesting times. But you have weapons that you're hitting 719 00:31:55,119 --> 00:31:56,960 this ball back with and you can like hit each other, 720 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,720 and if you do it too many times you get 721 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,480 like red cards and all these but everyone's got like 722 00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:03,119 you have this role and if you do a roll 723 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,039 into a hit of the ball, it does like this 724 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,119 crazy curve shot. You have like power moves people have, 725 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,480 like projectiles. You can like throw shirtins at each other. 726 00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:12,720 You can like set up chains of like you can 727 00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:14,839 like throw a bomb somewhere, set it up, and then 728 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,920 like hit the ball into the bomb and just crush 729 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,160 it past your opponent. And then, like I said, the 730 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,319 co op element angle is super fun. Me and my 731 00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:23,279 friend were coming up with all these different strategies of 732 00:32:23,319 --> 00:32:26,160 like where we'd be positioned. Someone's being kind of like 733 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,920 the goalie, someone's up front. Like another really fun thing too, 734 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,640 is like the ball will just like hit your character 735 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,319 if you're standing in front of it, so you don't 736 00:32:33,319 --> 00:32:35,039 even need to like have good reaction time all the 737 00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:36,480 time and hit it back with your sword if it 738 00:32:36,519 --> 00:32:38,160 just smacks you in the head. The ball will stop 739 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,160 and then you can hit it again. So it's just 740 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,680 it's super janky, but it's so much fun. There's six 741 00:32:43,759 --> 00:32:45,960 characters in there that all have a completely unique moves 742 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,480 that and play style to them, and uh yeah, I 743 00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:51,200 just can't get enough of U fifty. It's so freaking good. 744 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,519 I desperately want to play this game on the twenty 745 00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:56,880 four hour stream. I don't think the setup will work 746 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,240 when it comes to switch. Eventually, I'll definitely bring it 747 00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:01,000 to that stream. There's a lot of fun cold things 748 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,920 in there, but this one in particular, I think we 749 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,799 would just get lost playing it for like hours. It 750 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,680 is just so fun. I just I could not put 751 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,839 it down once I picked it up for the first time. 752 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,000 So shout outs to UFO fifty and one of the 753 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,519 fifty games being this amazing multiplayer game that I just 754 00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:18,720 can't can't stop playing, Bashido Ball. It's amazing, So shout 755 00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:21,160 outs to that and then the other game that I 756 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,440 want to shot out in honor of the spooky season 757 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,400 here of October last year, taylor Field, I told you 758 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,519 about my time playing through Resident Evil two remake. I 759 00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:33,400 finally have gone through and played through Resin Evil three remake. 760 00:33:34,759 --> 00:33:36,759 I've played through it in the last couple of weeks here, 761 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,240 and this is a this is a weird game. I 762 00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:43,359 was looking into this a little bit. Residin Evil two 763 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,920 remake came out in twenty nineteen. This one came out 764 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,680 in twenty twenty. It came out really really soon after, 765 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,160 and it feels like it it's a very very short game, 766 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,920 especially compared to Residevil two, and it doesn't even have 767 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,279 it doesn't have like as much replayability. The first campaign 768 00:33:57,319 --> 00:34:00,319 is much shorter. So in some ways I was kind 769 00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:03,759 of disappointed with it with its simplicity, but in other ways, 770 00:34:03,759 --> 00:34:05,599 it's kind of exactly what I wanted. So after I'd 771 00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:08,119 played Resident Evil two, a couple of things that like 772 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,800 were disappointing to me about it were one, like the 773 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,960 multiple roots, Like in the game, you pick Leon or Claire, 774 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,280 and like each of the route is like mostly the same, 775 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,400 there's like minor differences between them, right, And one of 776 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,079 the things I desperately wanted was like just more distinct 777 00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:26,280 paths that they go through. Resident Evil three feels very 778 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,360 much like a companion piece to resid Evil two because 779 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,639 it's said at the exact same time, exact same city, 780 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:34,079 a setting of Raccoon City, and it's kind of what 781 00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:35,480 I wanted from Was an Evil Too, in that way 782 00:34:35,519 --> 00:34:38,320 where you play as Jill and Carlos in this one 783 00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:40,800 and you're just kind of seeing like a different perspective 784 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,239 of Racoon City. They're in a slightly different spot, but 785 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,480 there's a couple points where they overlap with an exact 786 00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:48,119 location from Was An Evil Too. So in that way, 787 00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:50,800 it's kind of what I was expecting from this multiple 788 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,960 root element of residin Evil two. So in that way, 789 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,519 it was really cool. And the other thing with Resonnel two, 790 00:34:55,559 --> 00:34:57,440 I was like, man, I want to see the city 791 00:34:57,519 --> 00:34:59,519 like you spent a whole game inside or like in 792 00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:02,280 Sewer is in the police department in this lab and 793 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,039 like you barely go out in the streets and see 794 00:35:04,039 --> 00:35:06,239 the chaos out there. And so Residon Evil three like 795 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,159 immediately throws you into the streets of Raccoon City, are 796 00:35:09,159 --> 00:35:12,159 going through different shops and houses and alleyways, and it 797 00:35:12,199 --> 00:35:14,280 was like, man, this is exactly what I wanted is 798 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,440 a resident Evil too, So like it made a really 799 00:35:16,519 --> 00:35:19,079 great first impression, but then I think it was just 800 00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:22,280 like the lack of depth in the game overall. That 801 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,199 kind of brought it down a little bit. Like I said, 802 00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:26,440 it's very short, not a lot of depth. There's like 803 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,239 two puzzles in the whole game. It's like very basic 804 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,480 in that way. It's very much on the uh you know, 805 00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:32,920 as I've been playing a lot through a lot of 806 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,280 the Resident Evil stuff, It's like all the games kind 807 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,000 of exist on the spectrum of like horror game to action, 808 00:35:38,199 --> 00:35:41,159 like dumb stupid, cheesy action movie and like a good 809 00:35:41,159 --> 00:35:43,320 way I mean, and this game is like fully on 810 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,960 the dumb action movie side of things that it's not 811 00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:51,039 very scary. Everyone's dropping cheesy little like MCU quips, and 812 00:35:51,079 --> 00:35:53,599 it's very it's a very goofy game in that way. 813 00:35:55,159 --> 00:35:57,199 So yeah, I don't know, it's it's been an interesting time. 814 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,079 I forget what's I know you love the movies, but 815 00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:01,760 what's your what's your experience with the games? Have you 816 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,840 played many of them? Oh? 817 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:10,119 Speaker 2: Gosh, my experience is it's fairly limited. Me and Rubin played, 818 00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:17,920 Oh six comes to mind. It was like multiplayer. I 819 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,920 think he was one player, maybe it was maybe it 820 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,960 was a different one. All I remember is he was 821 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,199 like Okay, we're gonna play Resident Evil turns it on. 822 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,039 It's split screen, and I think it was like a 823 00:36:27,159 --> 00:36:32,280 versus and he was just kicking. Yeah. So other than that, 824 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,639 I've seen him do some other fun things. I know 825 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,559 that they're available and on Xbox, and I've got a 826 00:36:38,599 --> 00:36:40,639 couple of them that I've downloaded over the years through 827 00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:43,719 Games of Gold. It's something that I absolutely want to 828 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,760 get into and play, and if not all of them, 829 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,840 maybe just that original one. I don't think I can 830 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,239 just handle the stress of having like mister X or 831 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,480 whoever his name is, or Nemesis just following you around 832 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,000 the map when you're trying to do stuff. It's like, 833 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,280 I gotta have stress in my life. That's just too stressful. 834 00:36:58,599 --> 00:37:01,760 But kudos to you and all the other brave souls 835 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,760 that master that that combat. 836 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, like I said, the games really exist 837 00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:09,400 on a spectrum. Like I don't think Resion Evil four 838 00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:12,840 is really at all scary except for one sequence that's 839 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,679 absolutely terrifying, to be honest, But like the rest of 840 00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:18,280 the game, which is you know, ninety nine percent of it, 841 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,760 is not really that scary. It really is just dumb, 842 00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:23,920 cheesy action movie vibes to it, and I feel like 843 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,280 that kind of that that change is very apparent from 844 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,400 two to three to four that I know that I've 845 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,079 been playing through them, and so three is not a 846 00:37:31,199 --> 00:37:33,480 very scary game, Like I'll say that like the element 847 00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:37,239 of it or with mister X in Residinavil two really terrifying, 848 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,840 really great mechanics, really really well done. Nemesis in this one, 849 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,360 I was pretty disappointed with. There's a couple sections where 850 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,840 he'll be like chasing you through the level, but I 851 00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:49,199 those levels are so short that you kind of get 852 00:37:49,199 --> 00:37:51,000 through them really quickly. It's pretty obvious where you have 853 00:37:51,039 --> 00:37:53,639 to go, whereas Residuevil two, it's like there's no clear 854 00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:55,400 path of which way you should go do best to 855 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,400 get away from him. So it adds that like stress 856 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,960 factor to it. So that could be very stressful in two, 857 00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:02,480 But in three, I didn't find Nemesis to be a 858 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,719 great villain. He comes up a lot in different ways, 859 00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:08,519 and I never really found him that engaging or terrifying. 860 00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:10,760 Some of his boss fights are okay, but even one 861 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,960 of them was really janky because like it's designed like 862 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,719 the only way you can get through it is like 863 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,719 if you have the grenade launcher and the landmine things. 864 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,239 He like runs around the wall, so you have to 865 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,719 shoot it on the wall and then he'll walk on 866 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,679 the wall and hit it and blow up. And I, 867 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,920 you know, you have such a limited inventory space that 868 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,800 I didn't go into the fight with my grenade launcher. 869 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,960 So over the course of like ten to fifteen minutes, 870 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,800 I put every last bullet I had into this guy, 871 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,960 and it just didn't do anything because you had to 872 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,719 do this mind thing. It's like that's kind of stupid, 873 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,400 Like that's kind of annoying that that's the only way 874 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,280 to do it. So like even that, what was a 875 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,519 cool set piece ended up being kind of a disappointing 876 00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:45,760 fight in that way. So I don't think you need 877 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,639 to be as scared like Reside Evil seven Biohazard terrifying. 878 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,000 Do not recommend if you get scared. That game is 879 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,679 horrendously terrifying. Wasn't even eight, though it has a couple 880 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,400 spookier moments, but like even that is fairly the action 881 00:38:58,599 --> 00:39:01,159 movie forward and more about like puzzles and going through 882 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,639 Like I don't know that at least that's what I've found, 883 00:39:03,639 --> 00:39:05,639 And I think one of my coping mechanisms is I 884 00:39:05,679 --> 00:39:08,440 played these games on the easiest difficulty possible, so it 885 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,679 reduces some of the stress of like, Okay, I always 886 00:39:10,679 --> 00:39:13,079 have some AMMO in the reserves. I don't need to 887 00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:14,679 be down to like three shots left, and I have 888 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,159 to make sure I'm you know, taking care of every 889 00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:19,840 last one. So I think you should get into it 890 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,880 because these remakes are really good. RESONEVL eight was really 891 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,639 really good. I mean seven is great too, It's just 892 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,559 it is just very, very scary, and I think you know, 893 00:39:27,639 --> 00:39:29,679 the like these games going deep sales even if you 894 00:39:29,679 --> 00:39:31,840 don't have them yet. I think I pick up residin 895 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,960 Evil two and three remake for like ten bucks each, 896 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:35,840 And honestly, this game, if I had picked it up 897 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,800 for eighty bucks, I would have been salty because I 898 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,360 beat it in four hours. And there's no replayability because 899 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,320 there's no different roots in this. You play as Jill 900 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,800 and Carlos, but they kind of just rotate at different 901 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,400 points in the story, as opposed to Residevil two or 902 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,840 four that has the DLC that kind of adds the 903 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,239 separate route to it. So yeah, really really short and 904 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,519 even Residinavil too had like these bonus scenarios once you 905 00:39:56,559 --> 00:39:59,320 beat it, uh, or there's like different characters you'd play 906 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,920 as and like do little challenge missions or puzzle missions, 907 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,599 and this doesn't have any of that as well. So 908 00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:06,679 I'm just shocked at how little content is in this game. Uh. 909 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,599 And I think just because of the timeline of it, 910 00:40:08,599 --> 00:40:10,199 it makes sense it came out one year later. They 911 00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:11,960 probably weren't working on it for very long. It very 912 00:40:12,039 --> 00:40:13,960 much feels like it wasn't evil too, Like they just 913 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,280 took that engine exact like copy paste and then just 914 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,679 like made the new areas. So yeah, I don't know, 915 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,599 it feels like a pretty minor game, and because of that, 916 00:40:21,639 --> 00:40:25,920 I wouldn't particularly recommend it honestly. Like in Resonable to, 917 00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:28,199 like the police station's kind of the main, first big 918 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,000 area and it's huge. It takes like three hours to 919 00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:33,400 get through. I feel like that my first time, you know, 920 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,639 hidden keys everywhere, you know, I got to get these 921 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,320 hidden items and Nemesis cut or mister X is coming 922 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,719 at you from all these different angles. It takes forever, 923 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,320 but it's like a really satisfying dungeon in this game. 924 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:44,960 The street section of the againing is kind of the 925 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,480 most intricate, and that was done in like thirty forty minutes, 926 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,360 and then everything else after that was like very surface level. 927 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,480 You just kind of go through. There's maybe one or 928 00:40:53,519 --> 00:40:55,400 things one or time, one or two times you have 929 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,280 to back go, you know, backtrack, but it's like very 930 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,920 very simple in that way. So yeah, I was I 931 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,920 was pretty disappointed with this game overall. It was fun 932 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,840 to finally play as Jill Valentine because she's such a 933 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,400 fan favorite. I've never played in all the residuevil I've 934 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,000 played now, I haven't played a game with her as 935 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,639 a as a playable character, so to get to see 936 00:41:13,639 --> 00:41:16,119 her a little bit was cool. And I think another 937 00:41:16,159 --> 00:41:19,039 disappointing thing was at the start of the game, You're 938 00:41:19,079 --> 00:41:21,840 in Jill's apartment and she like goes to the bathroom 939 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,159 and she's like starting to trip out a little bit, 940 00:41:24,199 --> 00:41:26,119 and then she like is turning to a zombie and 941 00:41:26,159 --> 00:41:27,480 then she wakes up and it was it was a 942 00:41:27,559 --> 00:41:30,000 dream all along, but it's like it's kind of sets 943 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,159 this tone for like this psychological horror thing, and then 944 00:41:33,159 --> 00:41:35,400 it like never does that again. There's one point later 945 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,400 on where she is like knocked out and has like 946 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,239 a fuzzy dream, but even it's not, it's not really 947 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,199 like a horror element in that same way, and that 948 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,599 was like the only time they did that kind of thing, 949 00:41:44,679 --> 00:41:46,039 So I feel like they kind of just hinted at 950 00:41:46,039 --> 00:41:48,119 this type of thing that was gonna happen that never 951 00:41:48,199 --> 00:41:50,840 ended up happening again. So yeah, I don't know. I 952 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,960 I'm it's been fun, you know, playing through all these 953 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,519 Reside Evil games the last few years. I think that 954 00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:57,239 this if this game had been the alternate roup Resident 955 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,280 Evil too, I think that would make both these games 956 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,480 so much stronger if they bundled it into one like 957 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,159 bigger pack, and even that would have been like twenty 958 00:42:04,159 --> 00:42:07,039 hours of game playing, not a ton. So it's kind 959 00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:09,559 of just a little bit frustrating how they kind of 960 00:42:09,559 --> 00:42:11,719 piecemelled it out and they're charging so much for it. 961 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,320 Once again, I got them on sales, so I didn't 962 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,920 pay too much. But yeah, it's just it's interesting to 963 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,559 see how close paired these games are, because even a 964 00:42:18,599 --> 00:42:20,840 game like residu Eval seven and eight, which has the 965 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,360 same playable character in back to back games, they feel 966 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,320 like very distinct experiences and very separate games, even if 967 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,159 they are sequels. Whereas two and three feel like the 968 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,760 same game that's kind of just split out and given 969 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,639 to you as two separate packages, two separate discs, you know. So, 970 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,760 and from what I've listened to, it sounds like there's 971 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,000 a lot of cut content from the original Resonuval three 972 00:42:39,039 --> 00:42:41,760 from this game sections that they just remove completely, certain 973 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,280 boss fights and things. So I don't know, I guess 974 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,440 they just had to get it out for the shareholders 975 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,280 in time. That's kind of the vibe I get. It 976 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,400 wasn't like a bug Egloci game or anything, but it's 977 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,559 just like really short on content. So so yeah, there 978 00:42:53,559 --> 00:42:56,079 you go. There's Resonaval three some points I really enjoyed, 979 00:42:56,639 --> 00:42:58,840 fun enough time to go through, but like overall a 980 00:42:59,039 --> 00:43:02,719 very shallow experien against unfortunately. But I've knocked it off 981 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:03,840 the list now, and I don't know. I don't know 982 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,239 which one I'm gonna play that next idea. I think 983 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,480 I've I think I bought six and there Resion Evil 984 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,480 like one remake or remaster that they did, so one 985 00:43:12,519 --> 00:43:13,840 of those two, but I don't know which one I'm 986 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,719 gonna go to next. We'll see slip a coin. Yeah, 987 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,679 that's where that's where it's out at this point. Cool 988 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,440 that there you go, there's reson Evil three. Uh, let's 989 00:43:23,519 --> 00:43:26,320 jump into something a lot more pleasant and fun and 990 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:31,719 squishy and fuzzy. Uh, Super Mario Party Jam beree. So 991 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,360 you know, we we do reviews here at geek Verse, 992 00:43:35,639 --> 00:43:37,119 but like, what are you gonna do review a Mario 993 00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:38,800 party game? You know, it's kind of just like what 994 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,519 am I gonna do play for thirty hours of the 995 00:43:40,519 --> 00:43:42,440 course of weekend. I'm not gonna do that. It's a 996 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,079 Mario party you know. I'm gonna play a little bit 997 00:43:44,119 --> 00:43:46,800 here there and enjoy it at a time. But tell 998 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,599 me what your experience with this game has been, like, 999 00:43:48,679 --> 00:43:50,800 kind of what have you done so far? And how's 1000 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:51,320 that been going? 1001 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 3: Uh? 1002 00:43:53,199 --> 00:43:57,280 Speaker 2: So far, I've done or done one mode, just one 1003 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:02,519 Classic Party mean Madison, I did one online against Rando's 1004 00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:05,440 on the World, and then I've done the board building 1005 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:06,719 mode as well. 1006 00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:08,199 Speaker 1: Board building, Oh my god. 1007 00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:12,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not as maybe that's the poor choice of words. 1008 00:44:12,199 --> 00:44:16,639 It's when you talk to you talk to Oh my gosh, 1009 00:44:16,679 --> 00:44:18,159 why are yes? 1010 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 1: Okay, I would not describe it as a board builder personally, 1011 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,079 but I know what you're talking. Poor choic single player mode. 1012 00:44:24,159 --> 00:44:24,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1013 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: Okay, mm hmmm. 1014 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,800 Speaker 2: That is basically the extent of my my immersion in here. 1015 00:44:30,039 --> 00:44:33,920 But it's been because you're right, like Mario Party, it's 1016 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,800 Mario Party. There's a lot of things that are very similar, 1017 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,719 and so when you hop into this, I feel like, Okay, 1018 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,039 there's a lot of things that I'm able to really 1019 00:44:39,079 --> 00:44:42,599 pick up on. It's very familiar, a lot of similar 1020 00:44:42,639 --> 00:44:45,079 things from the previous iterations, but there's a lot of 1021 00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:47,599 really new little things that I really do appreciate in here, 1022 00:44:47,639 --> 00:44:49,880 and I can't, for the life of me recall if 1023 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,159 some of this stuff is from previous Maria Party games 1024 00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:54,519 or if it's new things. I think most of it 1025 00:44:54,559 --> 00:44:58,000 is just new what they put into it, and I'm 1026 00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:00,599 really really liking it. I'm having a last with the 1027 00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:04,199 mini games. The online was a lot of fun, and 1028 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,360 it's interesting because I'm pretty sure what started off was 1029 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,480 just a four player online game. We got about halfway 1030 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,960 through and then I started you wouldn't notice it unless 1031 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,599 you were like looking at it. But then I realized, okay, 1032 00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:18,360 one human player was still left. Even though the other 1033 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,320 characters had human player names, they were ais. So when 1034 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,280 people drop out, it just switches to AI. And I 1035 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,360 know that because when I was doing the mini games, 1036 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,719 I would hit start, the other guy would hit start whenever. 1037 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,559 But as soon as I hit start, the two wais 1038 00:45:32,559 --> 00:45:36,079 immediately hit start following like okay, their computers. So that's 1039 00:45:36,119 --> 00:45:36,840 how that's how. 1040 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,280 Speaker 1: You kind of know, right, So yeah, okay, fair enough. 1041 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,519 Tell me what board did you play on? 1042 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 2: I did Goomba Island and what was the other one 1043 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,960 that Madison wanted to do? Oh my goodness, you just 1044 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,119 played the one board though, right, we did two. I've 1045 00:45:54,119 --> 00:45:54,960 done two boards. 1046 00:45:55,280 --> 00:46:00,159 Speaker 1: Okay, what do we got? We got the coke Go 1047 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:05,119 Coconut Mall. One Raceway, Oh, the Raceway one. Okay, tell 1048 00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:08,639 me how those games go for you. I lost a 1049 00:46:08,679 --> 00:46:10,360 snapshot and they give me the recap of the. 1050 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 2: Match rolling Raceway. I thought I had it and I lost. 1051 00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:18,880 Madison just cleaned house as Burdo as always. Just the 1052 00:46:19,199 --> 00:46:21,480 whole top part of that map just totally set me 1053 00:46:21,519 --> 00:46:23,079 for a loop. And I learned the hard way that 1054 00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:28,119 if you use like the quadruple dice, it sent me 1055 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,400 past the star. It wouldn't let me actually buy the 1056 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,159 star because it just assumes you along unless I blinked 1057 00:46:33,199 --> 00:46:35,320 and I missed something. But like I used it because 1058 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,199 I thought, oh, I'm gonna guarantee get the star. Hell yeah, 1059 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,519 let's go. I used it and my character just blasted 1060 00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:42,480 by it at super speed. It would not let me 1061 00:46:42,519 --> 00:46:45,159 get it, which I thought was crazy, Like, okay, that 1062 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:45,880 is insane. 1063 00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:48,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I never would have thought that would happen. Is 1064 00:46:48,199 --> 00:46:50,239 that part of the mechanic of the raceway one is 1065 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,400 that you you can't stop midway through because you're driving. 1066 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 2: Maybe again, I'm I'm sure it's it might be something 1067 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,320 I overlooked. I just all I can piece together this 1068 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,400 point was like it happened so fast. I thought I 1069 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,400 had the star and I just didn't. I was twenty 1070 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:07,880 spaces ahead of it. Maybe you were. 1071 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,559 Speaker 1: Maybe you because you rolled that many dice, you were 1072 00:47:09,639 --> 00:47:12,639 driving so fast that you couldn't be sopt Maybe. 1073 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,519 Speaker 2: Yeah. So at the end of the day, though, yeah, 1074 00:47:15,519 --> 00:47:16,920 that was that was a fun map. I would definitely 1075 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,920 play it again. And as you're doing laps, every time 1076 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,119 you go past go you get like more coins like 1077 00:47:21,159 --> 00:47:23,719 Monopoly style, but like two laps you get twenty coins, 1078 00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:27,400 five laps you get fifty coins. It's it's fun how 1079 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,519 they has that that kind of like factor in there 1080 00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:34,559 easy to mess around and fudge around with other players 1081 00:47:34,559 --> 00:47:37,960 though in that map, but the Goomba Lagoon, I enjoyed 1082 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,639 that one a lot. And that's the one I did 1083 00:47:39,679 --> 00:47:43,480 on online multiplayer and I cleaned house I got. It 1084 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,920 was a slow start, but in the back half I 1085 00:47:46,039 --> 00:47:49,000 got three stars in one turn and I ended it 1086 00:47:49,039 --> 00:47:51,440 with four stars and came first place, which is great 1087 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,199 because the online you have like a division rank, and 1088 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,800 as you do more online games, you get points in 1089 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,440 your start off in like Division D, you can work 1090 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,440 your way up to A. So we'll see how far 1091 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,320 I get working my rank up. But I really am 1092 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,880 enjoying the achievement factor because Superstars had the achievements, but 1093 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,239 it was just like Star Constellations. It wasn't anything super 1094 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,519 super crazy, but I still I enjoyed seeing them here. 1095 00:48:17,679 --> 00:48:19,880 I love how it actually has benefit because I think 1096 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,000 you have seven maps, three of them I believe are 1097 00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:26,760 unlocked through doing the achievements as well as I. 1098 00:48:26,679 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 1: Think was there a third because I saw that there 1099 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,599 was two to be unlocked, But is there a third 1100 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,199 hidden one somewhere? Uh? 1101 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,320 Speaker 2: There was okay, yeah, King Bowser's. 1102 00:48:35,519 --> 00:48:38,320 Speaker 1: I know there's the Mario the West World or the Yeah, 1103 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:39,920 the Western. 1104 00:48:39,519 --> 00:48:43,320 Speaker 2: World, Western Land, Mario's Rainbow Castle, and King Bowser's Keep, 1105 00:48:43,559 --> 00:48:45,159 which are unlockable. 1106 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,639 Speaker 1: Nice. Okay, I didn't see that there was a seventh 1107 00:48:47,639 --> 00:48:51,159 on there. That's nice. I got the Western World unlocked. 1108 00:48:51,199 --> 00:48:52,400 Do you have that one unlocked yet? 1109 00:48:52,519 --> 00:48:54,119 Speaker 2: I don't have that one unlocked? No, not yet? 1110 00:48:54,119 --> 00:48:58,800 Speaker 1: Okay, uh yeah. In terms of play time, play experience, 1111 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,440 I have a similar, similar situ. I've tried to dabble 1112 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,079 in a few of the different things. So me and 1113 00:49:03,079 --> 00:49:07,079 Moud's Diday fifteen turn board on the It's not called 1114 00:49:07,079 --> 00:49:09,079 Coconut Mall, but I see it and I look at 1115 00:49:09,079 --> 00:49:11,639 and I see that's what I thought from Mario Kart. 1116 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,719 I'm kind of salty they didn't just call it that 1117 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,559 and go with that, because that'd be a fun continuity 1118 00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:18,000 if that started in Mario Kart became a thing in 1119 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,400 Mario Party. But whatever I can head can in that 1120 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,800 one and call it Coconut Mall. So we did that map, 1121 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,079 and then after that, I tried some single player mode 1122 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:27,920 that you were talking about where you're just on the 1123 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,440 board and you're going and collecting stuff. We can talk 1124 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,920 about that in a little bit, and then me and 1125 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,840 Mud just kind of went to the minigame map because 1126 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,119 we didn't have a ton of time tonight, and just 1127 00:49:36,199 --> 00:49:38,360 played around with someone in minigames, tried a couple of 1128 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,679 the bonus modes, like the cooking one for example, and 1129 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,719 then the co op thing you can do, and then 1130 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,960 just some other random modes as well. So yeah, I 1131 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,159 tried to dabble a little bit here and there. Haven't 1132 00:49:48,159 --> 00:49:50,840 played any online whatsoever yet, So it sounds like you 1133 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,079 just did like a board online when you did the online. 1134 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,559 Speaker 2: I did the board online. Yeah, each player gets about 1135 00:49:55,559 --> 00:49:58,480 twenty seconds to roll their dice, take their term, and 1136 00:49:58,519 --> 00:50:02,159 then after that you get like a few more seconds 1137 00:50:02,199 --> 00:50:05,559 to like take a specific direction and whatnot. 1138 00:50:05,679 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 1: So yeah, makes it move along pretty well. That's a 1139 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,960 good thing, exactly cool. Yeah, I really I'm loving the 1140 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,880 game so far. I think that I was shocked, first 1141 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,760 of all, right off the bat how how much intro 1142 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,960 stuff there was. You know, like there's like some huge 1143 00:50:20,039 --> 00:50:22,119 endless cutsing or anything like. There is that, but it's 1144 00:50:22,159 --> 00:50:24,920 more just like introducing you to all the different elements 1145 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,320 of the game, and I was like, wow, there is 1146 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,960 a lot here. There's a lot of different things there's 1147 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,800 these boards you have to on lockboards, which I don't 1148 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,199 remember having one lockboards in a Mario Party game like ever. 1149 00:50:34,679 --> 00:50:36,920 I maybe that's happened before, but I can't recall. I've 1150 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,679 always just had them all ready to go from the start, 1151 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,199 taken to the plaza where there's all sorts of different 1152 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,519 random things you can do, and then over to like 1153 00:50:44,559 --> 00:50:46,599 the bonus modes. And it just felt like that intro 1154 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,159 sequence took like fifteen minutes for them to explain everything 1155 00:50:49,159 --> 00:50:51,719 that's going on there, which is pretty crazy, Like it 1156 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,440 was a lot of stuff. And so I was impressed 1157 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,679 right off the bat. And and yeah, like I think 1158 00:50:56,679 --> 00:51:00,440 that the Coconut Mall level is really cool. Like I 1159 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,679 think they added to me what appears to be some 1160 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,119 good mechanics in terms of like actually giving you as 1161 00:51:06,119 --> 00:51:10,360 a player good interesting decisions to make I feel like 1162 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,239 that doesn't always happen to Morrow Party, where it's like, Okay, 1163 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:13,840 if you have over fifty coins and you walk by 1164 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,840 a boo, of course you're gonna steal a star. You're 1165 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,480 probably just gonna steal a star from the person has 1166 00:51:17,519 --> 00:51:21,320 the most stars at that point, and like, Okay, you know, 1167 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,440 it's not really like an interesting decision after a while. 1168 00:51:23,679 --> 00:51:25,760 But I feel like one thing I really enjoyed too 1169 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,400 is maybe like there is still, of course a lot 1170 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,320 of luck, a ton of luck. The game is mostly luck, 1171 00:51:29,639 --> 00:51:31,599 but there was other things in there. In the Coconut 1172 00:51:31,599 --> 00:51:34,320 Mall level, what you're doing, it's like a three leveled 1173 00:51:34,639 --> 00:51:36,559 three leveled mall. There's a lot of ways. You can 1174 00:51:36,599 --> 00:51:38,440 go up this escalator, you can go stay in this one, 1175 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,519 you can go the elevators. You can get around the 1176 00:51:40,519 --> 00:51:44,159 map in different ways, and there's four stamp stations located 1177 00:51:44,159 --> 00:51:46,039 around the map, and when you go get these stamps, 1178 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,599 they essentially are worth ten coins. If you go past 1179 00:51:48,679 --> 00:51:50,679 go again, then if you get all four of them, 1180 00:51:50,679 --> 00:51:52,199 you get like a bonus ten so you can get 1181 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,320 fifty coins. And so I feel like adding a way 1182 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,360 like that to like, even if you suck at minigames, 1183 00:51:56,559 --> 00:51:58,760 a way that you can just guaranteed to get coins 1184 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,199 if you just go and certain directions by these stamp 1185 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,800 stations and then past the start is like a really 1186 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,639 cool thing to do, and it gives you like a 1187 00:52:05,679 --> 00:52:08,719 reliable way to keep this money flowing through and something 1188 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,679 that could you know, you could be lucky and not 1189 00:52:10,679 --> 00:52:12,599 really think about it and still walk past these things, 1190 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,159 or if you're a player that wants to think a 1191 00:52:14,199 --> 00:52:16,960 little bit more about it, you can kind of strategize 1192 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,119 how you're gonna go through. And it's like, do I 1193 00:52:19,119 --> 00:52:20,920 think a star is gonna go that way? Or was 1194 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,679 one just there? Or is the start out of my path? 1195 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,480 But I don't have enough money yet. I just feel 1196 00:52:24,519 --> 00:52:26,480 like it adds like some good decision making, which is 1197 00:52:26,519 --> 00:52:28,519 not something that I would really expect from Mario Party. 1198 00:52:28,519 --> 00:52:31,039 I would just expect them to amp up the chaos 1199 00:52:31,079 --> 00:52:34,400 of it. So that seemed really cool. I was really 1200 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,239 into that mechanic of it. And then yeah, the mall 1201 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,679 just has like all these different shops and at certain 1202 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,599 points they'll do like flash sales at these shops so 1203 00:52:42,639 --> 00:52:45,920 you can buy things for cheaper. So yeah, overall, I 1204 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,599 thought it was really cool. I thought it was just 1205 00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:50,719 a really really well designed map, really well like intricately designed, 1206 00:52:51,039 --> 00:52:53,119 and a lot of like interesting new little mechanics in 1207 00:52:53,159 --> 00:52:55,360 here that overall make it a bit more a game 1208 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,599 of skill instead of a game of luck completely, So 1209 00:52:58,159 --> 00:53:00,800 to me, that's plus. I like that kind of thing. 1210 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 2: You mentioned that you have this factor of a game 1211 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,480 of skill instead of luck. They incorporate that into the 1212 00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:09,639 multiplayer as well, because when you're joining into a game 1213 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,159 or starting up a game, you get to pick one 1214 00:53:11,199 --> 00:53:14,000 of four items. You could pick a change on whistle, 1215 00:53:15,519 --> 00:53:20,519 double dice, mushroom, or there's one the steel steal, a 1216 00:53:20,639 --> 00:53:26,920 star tool, or whatever. So they've definitely incorporated a lot 1217 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,519 of that to help people kind of implement strategy. And 1218 00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:32,360 I think that's a great idea of having it so 1219 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,480 you're not just reliant on just the minigames and if 1220 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,440 you keep losing and YadA, YadA, YadA. So I think 1221 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,679 that's definitely a nice positive in there to kind of 1222 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,920 cater to people's different play styles. And I mean sometimes 1223 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,320 you get to Maria Party and you're just your luck 1224 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:48,239 is not with you, so you need that help. Yeah. 1225 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw even too. I think I think I 1226 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,159 had to play a board to unlock it, like the 1227 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,239 pro Mode. Did you read through that? Yeah? So, I 1228 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,000 don't know if that's been in past Mario Party games. 1229 00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,320 I'm sure they've had some version of it, but pro 1230 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,480 Mode is a same, like, I guess, a more competitive 1231 00:54:01,519 --> 00:54:03,599 version of Marrow Party where they just take out some 1232 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,519 of the luck elements of it like you always know 1233 00:54:05,519 --> 00:54:08,679 where the next star is going to go. Uh, what 1234 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,559 were some of the other things in there? You pick 1235 00:54:10,639 --> 00:54:13,440 the mini games like hearing, Yeah, oh yeah, there's no 1236 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,079 more like random star blocks. You also, you know what 1237 00:54:16,119 --> 00:54:17,960 the bonus objective is going to be at the end 1238 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,280 of the map. So if it's like walk the most 1239 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,199 steps or win the most mini games, like that's something 1240 00:54:22,199 --> 00:54:23,760 you can I mean, minigames, you're always going to try 1241 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,320 and win, but it's something that you can at least 1242 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,519 like plan once again strategize around. 1243 00:54:28,039 --> 00:54:28,239 Speaker 2: Uh. 1244 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 1: So that was really cool and I don't remember all 1245 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,599 of it. There was like ten pages of things changes 1246 00:54:32,599 --> 00:54:34,559 that they make to the formula to make it a 1247 00:54:34,599 --> 00:54:36,800 bit more of a consistent experience. Yeah. The minigame one 1248 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,599 I thought was cool. Where now whenever it's time to 1249 00:54:39,599 --> 00:54:42,119 play minigame for them, like pop up on screen and 1250 00:54:42,119 --> 00:54:43,880 then everyone votes like which one they want to do, 1251 00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:46,079 so you can kind of like pick one that you're 1252 00:54:46,199 --> 00:54:48,920 stronger at, or maybe one that you know your certain 1253 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,880 friend is really weak at, or something like that. So 1254 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,800 I really want to try, I mean, I don't know which. 1255 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,639 What more I'd want to play the regular motor Pro 1256 00:54:55,679 --> 00:54:57,480 mode when we do it on the twenty four hour stream, 1257 00:54:57,679 --> 00:54:59,280 but I definitely want to do a four player map 1258 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,480 with all you guys, just like have a good absolutely 1259 00:55:01,639 --> 00:55:03,880 try some of that stuff. So yeah, I think that 1260 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,599 seems like a really cool addition in the mix there 1261 00:55:06,639 --> 00:55:08,639 as well. So yeah, I'm curious to see what other 1262 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,159 kind of mechanics exist on these other maps, the ones 1263 00:55:12,199 --> 00:55:13,639 that I haven't haven't played yet. 1264 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,199 Speaker 2: Go ahead. I was just gonna mention the buddy system, Yes, 1265 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,119 please go ahead. So it was a lot. It was 1266 00:55:22,199 --> 00:55:24,880 very cool how they introduced like a random buddy. We 1267 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:29,199 have Warrio, Luigi, Donkey Kong. I didn't get to get 1268 00:55:29,199 --> 00:55:31,679 to the Donkey Kong, but the Warrior. Each one has 1269 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,360 different abilities that they give you right if you happen 1270 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,159 to snag them, and Warrio will just keep giving you 1271 00:55:36,199 --> 00:55:39,280 coins when you roll a dice block. I can't remember 1272 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,559 what Luigi's was. I think Luigi adds an extra couple 1273 00:55:42,599 --> 00:55:45,400 steps to your dice block, and Donkey Kong I can't remember. 1274 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,840 But it's fun because if they drop on the board, 1275 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,679 they have about three turns before you get to them 1276 00:55:52,159 --> 00:55:55,000 before they disappear, which they will reappear again later on 1277 00:55:55,079 --> 00:55:58,800 after a few turns. Yeah, So it's neat that when 1278 00:55:59,159 --> 00:56:02,239 someone gets to that buddy, you just basically play a 1279 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,760 mini game to get to him first and unlock him, 1280 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,039 which is really kind of cool. It maybe sucks because 1281 00:56:08,039 --> 00:56:09,519 if you're the one who works hard to get there 1282 00:56:09,559 --> 00:56:12,840 and you lose him, but it's a fun dynamic. 1283 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,119 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I'm glad you brought that up. I 1284 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,559 think that's another really fantastic addition and it works a 1285 00:56:18,599 --> 00:56:20,519 lot better to me than the way it worked in 1286 00:56:20,559 --> 00:56:23,280 Super Mario Party. So in this one, I love that 1287 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,480 it's a guaranteed spot. Well, I guess the spot it'll 1288 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,119 first appear on the map is random, but you don't 1289 00:56:29,159 --> 00:56:31,280 need to land exactly on his square to get past him, right, 1290 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:32,719 You just have to walk right past him and then 1291 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,199 you'll trigger that minigame. Whoever triggers that they get an 1292 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,880 advantage in that mission to come. And the first one 1293 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,800 that we did, you had to climb a huge mountain, like, 1294 00:56:40,039 --> 00:56:42,519 oh course up the mountain, and I would not have 1295 00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:45,119 won were it not for the bonus that I got 1296 00:56:45,159 --> 00:56:47,320 for picking for like being the one to get there. 1297 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,280 You get like three apples are off the start. Mudds 1298 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,760 was right behind me, at the very end. So if 1299 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,440 I didn't get those, there's no way I would have 1300 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,199 beaten her, And so I feel like you still get 1301 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,599 an advantage there, but then it's like not guaranteed that 1302 00:56:57,639 --> 00:57:00,559 you'll get it. So I think that's that you get 1303 00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:02,239 a little advantage in the mini game. And those mini 1304 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,360 games are different. They're bespoke mini games from the other 1305 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,679 ones as far as I can tell. Like the Bowser 1306 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,400 Junior one is really fun where it's just like a 1307 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,320 little death arena Bowser Juniors up there throwing all sorts 1308 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:12,960 of death traps at you, and who can survive the 1309 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,440 longest in my room of death then you get me 1310 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,760 as a buddy, whereas the Oshi's is like, yeah, climb 1311 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,599 this mountain, like it's kind of fitting for the character 1312 00:57:19,639 --> 00:57:22,280 as well. And like, you know, there's twenty characters of 1313 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,280 something playable in this game, so I feel like if 1314 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,880 each one of them has their own unique thing, that's 1315 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,840 gonna one be like fun replayability of seeing all those 1316 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,559 over the course of the you know, as you play 1317 00:57:31,639 --> 00:57:33,679 this game for the next few years. But also that's 1318 00:57:33,719 --> 00:57:36,079 like a cool mechanic on top of it, and like 1319 00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:38,360 they're really powerful. You only get them for three turns 1320 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,679 once you get them, but you get like all you 1321 00:57:40,679 --> 00:57:42,840 get double rewards of anything like coint If you land 1322 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,760 on a blue tile, you get six coins. Insteade of three, 1323 00:57:46,239 --> 00:57:48,119 you can buy two things from the shop. I'm pretty 1324 00:57:48,119 --> 00:57:50,440 sure if you go past the star and you have 1325 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,559 forty coins, you can buy two stars. So that's also huge. 1326 00:57:53,639 --> 00:57:56,320 But then also what I love from the strategy side 1327 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,119 of it, and I didn't expect that I'd be talking 1328 00:57:58,119 --> 00:58:00,719 so much about strategy on this Mario Party episode, but 1329 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,880 that's just it's cool that these are the things they 1330 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,519 seem to be focused on. Is that if you walk 1331 00:58:05,559 --> 00:58:07,840 past someone who has a buddy, you steal it from them, 1332 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,000 and obviously they could grab it back from you. But 1333 00:58:10,039 --> 00:58:11,920 that adds like a good element of strategy of man, 1334 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,480 I gotta be getting away from them. I maybe got 1335 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,079 to use like a maybe a green pipe, which teleputs 1336 00:58:17,079 --> 00:58:19,400 you randomly. You wouldn't think to use it often, but 1337 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:20,920 like maybe that's a great way to get away from 1338 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,480 someone who's right behind of you, behind you for example, 1339 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,000 who has like a mushroom or something. And so I 1340 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,079 feel like that's a really cool part to it. But 1341 00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:30,199 also like that feels devastating when you lose your buddy, 1342 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,000 so it's something that you're trying to keep on top of. 1343 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,039 So yeah, really really great addition, and yeah, so I 1344 00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:37,840 was looking into that. That was something that was added in. 1345 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,800 I think one of the three DS Mario Parties is 1346 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,920 the buddy system, but then that was like the main 1347 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,159 selling point I feel like for Super Mario Party, the 1348 00:58:44,199 --> 00:58:46,280 first one on the Switch and then that one. From 1349 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,320 what I remember, you would just collect buddies like all 1350 00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,559 over the place, like they just be everywhere, and you 1351 00:58:50,559 --> 00:58:52,639 could get like sometimes two or three or four buddies, 1352 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,079 and then they would like improve your roles. They would 1353 00:58:55,119 --> 00:58:57,800 give you just different dice that you could use. And 1354 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,440 I found in that game, whoever lucked into the most 1355 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,239 buddies would just win because if you got like four buddies, 1356 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,559 you'd have so much control over the map that you 1357 00:59:06,599 --> 00:59:10,079 were just unbeatable. And sometimes because of raw Mario Party luck, 1358 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,119 you would just never get a buddy and it would 1359 00:59:12,119 --> 00:59:13,719 be so hard to win. And I didn't own that game. 1360 00:59:13,719 --> 00:59:15,000 I didn't play a ton of it, so this is 1361 00:59:15,039 --> 00:59:17,760 just my kind of after playing a handful of matches 1362 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,800 kind of impression of it. So I feel like this 1363 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,800 is just a much more balanced way of doing it. 1364 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,480 It feels much more competitive and interesting and adds just 1365 00:59:25,519 --> 00:59:27,760 a little kind of unique flair to it. So I'm 1366 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,840 really impressed with that system. I think it's really cool. 1367 00:59:30,719 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they really really did a good job with it, 1368 00:59:33,239 --> 00:59:36,480 and I think that losing the buddy that definitely caught 1369 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,760 me off guard. But yeah, the ability to purchase extra 1370 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,920 stuff with them is really really neat, and just as 1371 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,199 you said, the diversity of the mini games that feel 1372 00:59:46,239 --> 00:59:49,880 different from what they've got and like after your round completes, 1373 00:59:50,039 --> 00:59:53,000 it's very very unique. The Luigi one sent me for 1374 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,159 a loop because that was the online match I did, 1375 00:59:57,239 --> 00:59:59,480 and okay, it was I want to say, it was 1376 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,079 like ten days diferent rooms of puzzles, so you have 1377 01:00:02,159 --> 01:00:05,440 to like they're long, they are long, they are long. 1378 01:00:05,599 --> 01:00:09,519 You had multiple rooms where you had to build. You 1379 01:00:09,559 --> 01:00:12,800 had to there was like five pictures canvas prints, and 1380 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,599 you had to stack them on the wall in the 1381 01:00:14,639 --> 01:00:17,719 right order to form a full one giant picture. And 1382 01:00:17,719 --> 01:00:19,320 then the door opens and you go into the door 1383 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,000 in the extream, you have to push barrels to get 1384 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,480 through to get to create a path to the next door. 1385 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,920 After that you go through and it's like find the 1386 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,599 one statue that's the odd one out from the other ones. 1387 01:00:28,639 --> 01:00:32,079 And after that the final like the final door to 1388 01:00:32,159 --> 01:00:34,800 un lock. It was like there's four symbols, and the 1389 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,960 symbols glow in a certain order, and then you go 1390 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,559 to this keyboard and there's like thirty symbols and you 1391 01:00:39,599 --> 01:00:41,039 got to punch it in like the right or it's 1392 01:00:41,039 --> 01:00:43,880 like holy shit, and you have to rush because everyone 1393 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,639 else is catching up, right. It's it's totally crazy. 1394 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's great. And like we were saying, 1395 01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:51,800 like you have so many characters in this game that 1396 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,199 there's a lot of variety to be found there. It 1397 01:00:54,199 --> 01:00:56,559 seems like because obviously at most you're gonna have four 1398 01:00:56,639 --> 01:00:59,599 people in a standard game there, And I mean I 1399 01:00:59,639 --> 01:01:03,119 love that, especially like Mario Party Superstars. I love everything 1400 01:01:03,159 --> 01:01:05,000 about that game. Of course, there was just more content 1401 01:01:05,079 --> 01:01:07,280 in it, but like there was already enough content. I 1402 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:08,920 just loved it so much. I want more. But I 1403 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,880 think the biggest disappointment for me really was just like 1404 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,360 the character roster was really weak. Who's like what ten 1405 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,239 ten characters? Maybe eight? I think it's probably ten. The 1406 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,719 bait like Birdo was like the only freak in there. 1407 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,039 The rest were just like very you know, the Mario Luigi, 1408 01:01:22,519 --> 01:01:25,119 Peach Daisy, like the ones you kind of expect. And 1409 01:01:25,199 --> 01:01:26,519 so I love that this game has like a really 1410 01:01:26,599 --> 01:01:28,760 huge roster. Tons of characters can play like I don't 1411 01:01:29,039 --> 01:01:31,800 I can't recall ever playing as Bowser in a Mario 1412 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,639 party game. Normally he's the villain, but they made like 1413 01:01:33,679 --> 01:01:37,320 a fake Bowser imposter. Bowser is like the Bowser here 1414 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,039 in this one, so you can actually play a sandwhich 1415 01:01:39,079 --> 01:01:43,679 I really liked. You know, Bowser juniors like Ninja, I 1416 01:01:43,719 --> 01:01:45,119 think it is one of them. Pauline is like an 1417 01:01:45,199 --> 01:01:47,039 unlockable one, so there's some of your film lock too. 1418 01:01:47,159 --> 01:01:49,480 So I just love having all these characters. I think 1419 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,079 that's a really cool addition to it. Just having more 1420 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,079 more freedom in that way is fun, even if they 1421 01:01:55,119 --> 01:01:57,000 all you know, control the exact same of course, but 1422 01:01:57,599 --> 01:01:59,800 I don't know variety in this and like Mario Kart 1423 01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,239 is important to me, so cool to see all those 1424 01:02:02,239 --> 01:02:04,239 who's your go to? Because I know you're a Luigi 1425 01:02:04,519 --> 01:02:06,280 well Luigi guy, But now that you have so many 1426 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,679 more options, are you still going for the classics. 1427 01:02:09,239 --> 01:02:13,880 Speaker 2: I'm definitely uh yeah, Luigi's my guy. But when I'm 1428 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,800 looking at the other characters, I'm just thinking like, oh 1429 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,840 well maybe, uh, like Spike seems kind of cool. I 1430 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:24,519 would mind trying Spikes Spike. Yeah, there's a There's a 1431 01:02:24,559 --> 01:02:29,320 few others in there though, Like Boo is very cool. Yeah, 1432 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:30,280 Boos very cool. 1433 01:02:32,119 --> 01:02:34,239 Speaker 1: Dry Bones was in there. I think shy guy is 1434 01:02:34,239 --> 01:02:35,599 a playable character. 1435 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,159 Speaker 2: Dry Bones, Yeah, that would have been cool. Yeah. 1436 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,599 Speaker 1: I don't know how you unlock the other ones. I 1437 01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:42,639 assume just leveling up. 1438 01:02:42,639 --> 01:02:42,960 Speaker 2: I guess. 1439 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:44,719 Speaker 1: I don't know if you have to do specific things 1440 01:02:45,199 --> 01:02:47,559 on a specific map or something to find them, but 1441 01:02:47,679 --> 01:02:48,119 we'll see. 1442 01:02:48,599 --> 01:02:53,480 Speaker 2: Uh, I happen to have that here in order to unlock. Oh, 1443 01:02:53,559 --> 01:02:55,840 this is like a whole tutorial. That's what I was 1444 01:02:55,840 --> 01:03:01,199 looking at. Uh. Interesting probably can be found zooming in 1445 01:03:01,239 --> 01:03:04,079 on the small sandy island right to the left of 1446 01:03:04,159 --> 01:03:06,519 minigame bay. Zoom in to interact with her, and she'll 1447 01:03:06,519 --> 01:03:08,719 be available to select next time you're playing. Wow. 1448 01:03:09,039 --> 01:03:11,000 Speaker 1: It's like a secret interaction, like. 1449 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:14,159 Speaker 2: A secret Crazy Ninja. Simply rotate around the hot air 1450 01:03:14,159 --> 01:03:16,599 balloon until you reach Rhythm Kitchen. Zoom in on the 1451 01:03:16,639 --> 01:03:19,679 hills to the right and directly behind here to find 1452 01:03:19,719 --> 01:03:21,840 Ninji waiting. Yeah, it's. 1453 01:03:23,559 --> 01:03:25,599 Speaker 1: Lot those characters. That is wild. 1454 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:30,159 Speaker 2: This is actually kind of funny. So I don't know 1455 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,559 what you can see? Can zoom in? Oh perfect seah. 1456 01:03:32,559 --> 01:03:34,400 You go to minigame Bay and you zoom in with 1457 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,920 the binoculars and she's just chilling on the beach, and 1458 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:42,320 then boom, she's joined and then yeah, rhythm oops, Rhythm kitchen. 1459 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:43,119 You zoom in. 1460 01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:47,880 Speaker 3: Here and she's just on this island behind and they're 1461 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,559 the only two unlockable characters, right, I believe so, And 1462 01:03:51,559 --> 01:03:53,960 I'm kind of surprised with how base, like how easy 1463 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,360 that is you can do that from get the get 1464 01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,519 go that there isn't like more of those. 1465 01:03:57,559 --> 01:03:59,360 Speaker 1: I guess they needed twenty on lock for like that 1466 01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,960 battle or alley mode that's in here that I haven't 1467 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,559 tried out yet, So maybe that's the reason why. But 1468 01:04:04,599 --> 01:04:07,000 that's that's funny. I'm gonna go do that right away. 1469 01:04:07,039 --> 01:04:09,440 Get all the seems like you have to grind a 1470 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,559 bit bold from the maps. I don't I don't know 1471 01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:14,519 what exactly it was to get the Western World one. 1472 01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:15,840 I think it was just leveling up enough but it 1473 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:17,480 sounds like you've played as much as me, so I'm 1474 01:04:17,519 --> 01:04:19,920 surprised you haven't got it yet. But I don't know. 1475 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,199 Speaker 2: Maybe I think it's I think it's like achievements, right, 1476 01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,679 like just doing Maney, maybe a bunch of achievements and 1477 01:04:25,679 --> 01:04:29,440 you go up through the achievement board with those unlocks. 1478 01:04:29,079 --> 01:04:33,440 Speaker 1: Something like that. Yeah, talking about the single player some 1479 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,480 more here, So you you had mentioned, uh, yeah, that 1480 01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:39,880 kind of builder thing, which is that it seems like 1481 01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,159 every board you can kind of drop in there as 1482 01:04:42,199 --> 01:04:44,360 a certain character and you can kind of roam freely, 1483 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,159 like you're still on the specific lined path grid, but 1484 01:04:47,199 --> 01:04:48,559 you don't have to like roll and stuff. You can 1485 01:04:48,639 --> 01:04:51,079 just walk around that path. As you go. You'll talk 1486 01:04:51,119 --> 01:04:53,559 to different people, like on the Goomba Lagoon one it's 1487 01:04:53,559 --> 01:04:56,719 a bunch of goombas and like Pirate Garb and they'll 1488 01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,199 be like, Oh, I need this bolt, or I need 1489 01:04:58,199 --> 01:05:00,840 this screw to build this thing to get across this map, 1490 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,800 or I need this letter, or I need this thing 1491 01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,519 from the shop, and then the shop's closed, you got 1492 01:05:04,519 --> 01:05:05,760 to go get this other item. So a lot of 1493 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,760 it is just running around the map finding right on 1494 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:09,519 my name is bringing it back to the people. The 1495 01:05:09,639 --> 01:05:11,159 other part of it is you go up to a 1496 01:05:11,159 --> 01:05:14,360 certain NPC and they'll they'll be preparing the party. They're 1497 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,159 getting the board ready for the next party, which I 1498 01:05:16,159 --> 01:05:19,039 think is cool framing for it, and then you just 1499 01:05:19,079 --> 01:05:20,719 have to do a mini game against them that's kind 1500 01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,159 of somehow themed. So like at one point, the Koopa 1501 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:27,119 on the map was like, I'm scared of boulders, and 1502 01:05:27,159 --> 01:05:29,400 I can't do my job until I'm not scared of boulders. 1503 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,800 You have to do this boulder minigame, and then he's 1504 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,360 inspired after you showed him how to dodge a boulder, 1505 01:05:34,719 --> 01:05:36,800 and then you get these stars and you can use 1506 01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,559 them to unlock things, and so I don't know, I 1507 01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:41,440 assume that's how you would get new boards, but I 1508 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,360 got a new board without having to finish that. I 1509 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,599 did spend some time in that. I maybe spent a 1510 01:05:45,599 --> 01:05:47,079 half an hour mess around in that mode. 1511 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:48,440 Speaker 2: So I don't know. 1512 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,639 Speaker 1: It's like I never would have requested or wanted single 1513 01:05:51,679 --> 01:05:54,360 player content for a Mario Party game, but it's in 1514 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,480 there and I had fun playing around with it. So 1515 01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,039 I don't know how much ill was stick with it, 1516 01:05:58,039 --> 01:05:59,800 because honestly, now that I know it's not used to 1517 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,039 one stuff Like, I don't know how much I'll really 1518 01:06:02,039 --> 01:06:03,920 play it if it's just playing mini games that I'm 1519 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,400 gonna be playing elsewhere. But it's cool. It's a cool addition, 1520 01:06:07,519 --> 01:06:09,519 Like I don't I don't dislike that it's in there. 1521 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,079 Did what did you think of it? Did you do 1522 01:06:12,119 --> 01:06:13,679 goomb lagoon or do you pick a different manut? 1523 01:06:13,679 --> 01:06:15,719 Speaker 2: I think goomb Lagoon. Yeah, I completed. I got my 1524 01:06:15,719 --> 01:06:17,599 thirty mini stars off of it. 1525 01:06:17,719 --> 01:06:21,239 Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah, yeah, I did anything interesting happen when you 1526 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:22,000 got to the end of it? 1527 01:06:22,599 --> 01:06:25,440 Speaker 2: No, No, they were just like carrying forth. I think 1528 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,599 to the next board. At least I should have looked, 1529 01:06:28,639 --> 01:06:31,599 because yeah, you unlock your different quests or objectives, you 1530 01:06:31,599 --> 01:06:33,639 can check. But I just assumed I did all of 1531 01:06:33,679 --> 01:06:35,639 it because I got the thirty out of thirty mini 1532 01:06:35,679 --> 01:06:37,599 stars and it prompted me to go to the next board. 1533 01:06:39,079 --> 01:06:42,239 I did not go, as I said. I just kind 1534 01:06:42,239 --> 01:06:43,880 of thought, well, that was fun, I'm gonna go do 1535 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,880 the actual Mario party nowt So that's where I went. 1536 01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was I was curious because I in the 1537 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:54,000 me musband of the minigame bay and we're playing through 1538 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,000 a bunch of random minigames, and you can scroll through 1539 01:06:56,039 --> 01:06:57,639 and see the different categories. You know, it's like free 1540 01:06:57,639 --> 01:07:00,719 for all TWOV two, three v one, you know, all 1541 01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,199 sorts of different mini games. And one of the pages 1542 01:07:03,239 --> 01:07:05,159 and they were all blacked out is like boss Fight 1543 01:07:05,239 --> 01:07:08,280 mini games, And I was like, what the heck are those? 1544 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:09,880 Where do you do those? I'm guessing it's from like 1545 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,239 that Bowser factory mode. Like I don't know if you've 1546 01:07:13,239 --> 01:07:16,199 seen that one. It's kind of like like if you're 1547 01:07:16,199 --> 01:07:18,280 in the boards and next to Minigame Bay, it's kind 1548 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,039 of like one of the other things in there, huge 1549 01:07:20,079 --> 01:07:21,960 imposter Bowser. I don't know. I didn't click on it yet, 1550 01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:23,880 so I'm not exactly sure. I don't know if it's 1551 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,719 really related to that, but like I'm very curious to 1552 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,280 see what that means. Mm hmm. But yeah, I one 1553 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:34,119 thing that I wonder if there's enough mini games in here. 1554 01:07:34,119 --> 01:07:35,400 I think maybe one of the things is like they 1555 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,400 had so many of these other modes that have mini 1556 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,159 games to them, and as we talked about, like the 1557 01:07:40,239 --> 01:07:43,079 Buddy minigame ones that wouldn't appear in the normal pool 1558 01:07:43,639 --> 01:07:45,800 that for example, me and when were on minigame Bay. 1559 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,000 We had done a board already. We went through and 1560 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:49,480 we're trying out some of the two v two ones, 1561 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,239 and very quickly we like played through all of them, 1562 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,280 like every single one, and I felt like, I feel 1563 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,239 like there should be a few more in there. Uh 1564 01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:56,760 So I don't. 1565 01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:57,119 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1566 01:07:57,119 --> 01:07:58,440 Speaker 1: We'll see how I feel about that in like a 1567 01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,159 couple months time when I've played a couple more or 1568 01:08:00,719 --> 01:08:03,440 boards of it, and we'll see how I feel. But 1569 01:08:03,519 --> 01:08:05,480 one thing that is a huge complaint, and this is 1570 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,679 you know, this is just a more Nintendo Switch complaint 1571 01:08:07,679 --> 01:08:11,880 than anything is the fucking controllers and like sinking controllers. 1572 01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,119 I hate how that is on the switch. Like I 1573 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,359 get what they're going for there, but I just find like, okay, reconnect. 1574 01:08:17,399 --> 01:08:19,239 You click the things and then it takes like ten 1575 01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:20,920 seconds for it to go up and down and then 1576 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,880 it finally connects. Because if in this, if you ever 1577 01:08:24,239 --> 01:08:28,000 are doing a motion control minigame, it requires it you 1578 01:08:28,039 --> 01:08:30,199 only have one joy Con to do that, so it 1579 01:08:30,319 --> 01:08:31,880 kicks you out of your two joy Con. Me and 1580 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:33,520 must both have our own joy Con set. So we 1581 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,960 were playing like that, but to do a motion minigame, 1582 01:08:36,239 --> 01:08:39,359 it kicks us down to one one joy con on 1583 01:08:39,399 --> 01:08:41,119 its side for it first of all, which is always 1584 01:08:41,159 --> 01:08:43,000 janky when you've already use it on the side. So 1585 01:08:43,039 --> 01:08:45,239 then you do the motion control minigame with that, and 1586 01:08:45,279 --> 01:08:47,119 then I guess you switch back to your two controller thing, 1587 01:08:47,159 --> 01:08:49,159 but each time you have to sink the controllers again 1588 01:08:49,239 --> 01:08:49,640 to do that. 1589 01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:51,119 Speaker 2: It's like, I. 1590 01:08:51,039 --> 01:08:53,239 Speaker 1: Absolutely hate this. So really, what I'm just gonna end 1591 01:08:53,279 --> 01:08:55,119 up doing I play this game is just disabled the 1592 01:08:55,119 --> 01:08:57,720 motion control minigames, but now I'm getting less bang for 1593 01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,199 my buck, and now a bunch of the mini games 1594 01:08:59,199 --> 01:09:00,479 are gone. And when we're going to the two v 1595 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,439 two ones, like a quarter or them were motion control ones, 1596 01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,239 and now it's like, I guess the only time I'd 1597 01:09:05,239 --> 01:09:07,800 play those if if I'm in minigame Bay and we're 1598 01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:09,840 just like, okay, let's commit to a minigame session with 1599 01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:11,720 the motion controls. But I just feel like I'm not 1600 01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,840 really gonna see those ones, and it's like, I don't know, 1601 01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:16,319 I guess that I wish that just wasn't even a 1602 01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:18,079 thing at all. And I know it was a complaining 1603 01:09:18,079 --> 01:09:19,640 to a lot of people had for Super Mario Party 1604 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:20,960 as well, is that they really went hard on the 1605 01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,720 motion controls, whereas Mario Party Superstars none of that. It's 1606 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,359 just classic mini games. No, no motion control nonsense. So 1607 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,520 I don't know, is that is that something that like 1608 01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,319 when you played, did you disable motion controls or will 1609 01:09:32,399 --> 01:09:37,760 you do I act with those? Yeah? I get I 1610 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,960 just hate sinking controllers. It is the most annoying thing. 1611 01:09:41,039 --> 01:09:44,479 It's so jankie. I pray to god the switch too 1612 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,560 is better at doing that than the switch one. That's 1613 01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,199 that's a random little complaint, but in again like this, 1614 01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:54,399 it really added up pretty quick. The main thing I 1615 01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:55,720 really want to try that I haven't got around to 1616 01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,199 yet is the is that like Battle Royale thing where 1617 01:09:58,239 --> 01:10:00,760 you have like twenty players on some of these mini games. 1618 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,359 I'm sure it's like a different set of ones, and 1619 01:10:03,359 --> 01:10:05,159 I'm really excited to try that out. I just think 1620 01:10:05,159 --> 01:10:07,600 that's it was a very fun idea in the marketing 1621 01:10:08,039 --> 01:10:09,880 when I saw that. So you haven't tried that, right, 1622 01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,920 you just tried the multi multiplayer boards? Yeah, So any 1623 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,840 any other anything? We haven't talked about any other thoughts here. 1624 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,640 Speaker 2: No, I can't think of anything. If I had to 1625 01:10:22,319 --> 01:10:24,359 put one more thought out, it's just I hope that 1626 01:10:24,399 --> 01:10:26,399 this is the Mario Party where we get DLC for 1627 01:10:27,199 --> 01:10:30,279 I was thinking Superstars is like a prime title to 1628 01:10:30,399 --> 01:10:32,640 just drop DLC new maps and everything, But I feel 1629 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,720 like that game might be dead in the water for DLC. 1630 01:10:36,079 --> 01:10:40,159 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, so I mean, and you know, part 1631 01:10:40,199 --> 01:10:42,880 of that is like this game has a map for 1632 01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,640 Mario Party two in it. The Western World is ripped 1633 01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,640 out of there, right, So it's like, Okay, I guess 1634 01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,840 they could have done that as a DLC map for Superstars, 1635 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,000 but instead they're just putting it here. So yeah, I 1636 01:10:53,039 --> 01:10:55,159 think there's no chance of that game's getting DLC at 1637 01:10:55,159 --> 01:10:57,640 this point if they're putting older Mario Party content in 1638 01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:58,079 this one. 1639 01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,720 Speaker 2: And maybe it was a thought, Maybe it was a 1640 01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,880 thought that someone from Tenda's like, you know what, why 1641 01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:04,760 don't we just make a new game and charge seventy 1642 01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,359 nine bucks, Like, yeah, that's a great idea. 1643 01:11:08,079 --> 01:11:10,279 Speaker 1: It is interesting, like a lot of their DLC strategy 1644 01:11:10,319 --> 01:11:11,880 for like a lot of the sports games, which is 1645 01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,760 where i'd compare this to. It seems like the strategy 1646 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:16,439 for it is like, Okay, we're gonna release the game 1647 01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,840 like unfinished, and then we're gonna piece meal the rest 1648 01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:20,720 of the characters and maps to you, and that's what 1649 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,039 they've done for Like I think they did that for Aces, 1650 01:11:23,079 --> 01:11:25,000 they did that for Strikers, they did that for golf, 1651 01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,920 So like they just that's kind of their strategy there. 1652 01:11:28,119 --> 01:11:30,319 For something like Mario Kart, that was more like later on. 1653 01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,279 I think the game sold so well that they're like, Okay, 1654 01:11:32,319 --> 01:11:34,680 let's do some DLC for that. None of the games, 1655 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,520 like like Smash and Split two and I feel like 1656 01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:40,039 I have more straightforward DLC that you would expect. And 1657 01:11:40,079 --> 01:11:42,920 so Mario Party kind of exists. I don't even know where, 1658 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:44,600 and I feel like I don't think we've I can't 1659 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,720 recall ever seeing a DLC for any Mario Party game. 1660 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,079 The only thing I can remember is like Super Mario Party. 1661 01:11:50,399 --> 01:11:53,399 They added online play later on, like close to when 1662 01:11:53,399 --> 01:11:55,279 Superstars came out, which was really weird. But it wasn't 1663 01:11:55,319 --> 01:11:56,720 like a paid thing, you know. It's just something that 1664 01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,640 they'd obviously been working on and in preparation for Superstars, 1665 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:01,199 same men and all that, so they just kind of 1666 01:12:01,239 --> 01:12:05,359 like grabbed and slapped it into that older game. So yeah, 1667 01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,359 we'll see what they do, because this doesn't feel like 1668 01:12:07,399 --> 01:12:10,319 a game that they held back on content to like 1669 01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:12,800 piecemeal things released like, I feel like it has enough 1670 01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:16,279 content to justify its praise given all the bonus modes, 1671 01:12:16,319 --> 01:12:18,720 given that it has seven maps, that's more than Superstars. 1672 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,119 I don't know. I think I think Super Mario Party 1673 01:12:21,159 --> 01:12:23,119 only had four maps. I could be wrong. Maybe it 1674 01:12:23,159 --> 01:12:24,920 had some other bonus content, but I don't think it 1675 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,720 had that many. So this feels like a pretty full 1676 01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,960 content game, especially like all the playable characters that kind 1677 01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:32,960 of thing. So yeah, I don't know what they would do, 1678 01:12:33,039 --> 01:12:35,399 but I do think that it has been a long 1679 01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:39,119 time since. You know, on Nintendo Switch Online the Expansion 1680 01:12:39,199 --> 01:12:41,640 Pack that's how you get access to the Game Boy 1681 01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,720 Advance in the n sixty four games, and then they 1682 01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,720 had the Mario KARDLC on there. They also had I 1683 01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:49,960 think Animal Crossing DLC and maybe a Splatoon thing if 1684 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,800 I'm remembering correctly, but they haven't had a new thing 1685 01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,560 on there in a long time for DLC. I feel 1686 01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,399 like this could be kind of a perfect one for 1687 01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,199 that to put it in there. If they were wanting 1688 01:12:59,279 --> 01:13:01,720 this to be the next huge Mario Party game, which 1689 01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:02,960 it seems like it, I feel like this is the 1690 01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,399 one they'd want to lay their hat on. It's like 1691 01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:07,520 this is the switch Mario Party game. It kind of 1692 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,239 seems like that's what they're geared up for. Like it's 1693 01:13:10,239 --> 01:13:11,600 just such a robust game, you know. 1694 01:13:12,119 --> 01:13:13,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could agree more. 1695 01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, which, you know, not what I expect for Mario Party. 1696 01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,640 I feel like I have very low expectations for Mario Party. 1697 01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,119 But I feel like they went all out here and 1698 01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,560 I'm very happy with it, other than the janky ass 1699 01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:28,039 motion control bullshit. So any I guess last question for 1700 01:13:28,079 --> 01:13:31,560 you the Goomba Lagoon map. Is there any unique mechanic 1701 01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,439 going on there when you're playing the board game version. 1702 01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:34,520 What's going on there. 1703 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,279 Speaker 2: There is if you trigger the mountain or at the 1704 01:13:37,359 --> 01:13:40,600 volcano at the top, then lava blasts over like all 1705 01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,800 the top locations up there, And if you walk across 1706 01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:47,239 a lava spot you lose three coins. And so if you, 1707 01:13:47,359 --> 01:13:50,800 like one guy basically had to tredd through four spots 1708 01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:53,000 of lava and that's three coins each. Now it's down 1709 01:13:53,039 --> 01:13:54,079 twelve coins. 1710 01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,359 Speaker 1: And that you don't have to land exactly on it 1711 01:13:55,359 --> 01:13:56,880 if you just just walk through. 1712 01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, that lasts for a few turns. A couple of 1713 01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,760 other things they have fishing buckets, which are pretty cool. 1714 01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,960 So the goombas, you're fishing, and you can get a 1715 01:14:05,039 --> 01:14:11,079 maximum of fifteen coins if you so basically you'll throw 1716 01:14:11,079 --> 01:14:13,399 your line out and you'll get like, oh, four coins, 1717 01:14:13,399 --> 01:14:14,760 and the goomba like, oh, do you want to keep 1718 01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:17,159 fishing or take it and go like, oh, I'll keep fishing, 1719 01:14:17,199 --> 01:14:19,319 So you go throw the line out, get seven coins 1720 01:14:19,319 --> 01:14:21,399 like okay, So now you're you're doing pretty good. You're 1721 01:14:21,399 --> 01:14:23,520 a eleven so far. You want to keep going or 1722 01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,680 you want to stop, you can go again and maybe 1723 01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:29,880 get like three. So now you're at fourteen, and if 1724 01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,000 you choose to stop, you take it. But if you 1725 01:14:32,079 --> 01:14:34,920 go over that fifteen mark, the bucket spills all the 1726 01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:36,399 coins out, you don't get any of it. 1727 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,399 Speaker 1: I love that that is a great simple decision. 1728 01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:44,079 Speaker 2: Yep, yep. Tides go in and out too, cutting off 1729 01:14:44,159 --> 01:14:46,640 like access to certain parts of the map. So there's 1730 01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,600 lots of little things that are really really cool. 1731 01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,399 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's and it seems like all of them 1732 01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,000 kind of have their unique mechanics. We'll see. I imagine 1733 01:14:55,039 --> 01:14:58,279 the Western World Mario Party two is probably pretty basic. 1734 01:14:58,319 --> 01:14:59,840 I remember that one having a train you could like 1735 01:15:00,239 --> 01:15:03,680 right around on, but otherwise, if they don't upres the 1736 01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,880 like actual gameplay of it, I would imagine it'd be 1737 01:15:06,079 --> 01:15:09,159 a simpler one. But we'll see what happens there. Hopefully 1738 01:15:09,159 --> 01:15:11,840 I can unlock all these before or one of us 1739 01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:13,640 can unlock all these before the twenty four hour streams, 1740 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,119 so we've access to everything there. At least we know 1741 01:15:16,119 --> 01:15:17,399 how to get the characters. Now, you just got to 1742 01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:18,119 forget zoom meo. 1743 01:15:18,279 --> 01:15:18,840 Speaker 2: That's right. 1744 01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,680 Speaker 1: And I think maybe my last point here, I just 1745 01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,319 remember this is when me and MOUs were playing the 1746 01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,840 Mall level. First of all, she took a very early lead. 1747 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,079 She was up to like five or six stars, and 1748 01:15:31,079 --> 01:15:33,199 the rest of us, God, I had like one or 1749 01:15:33,199 --> 01:15:36,359 two at most. Mario I think I had like zero 1750 01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:38,159 until like the end of the game, last turn in 1751 01:15:38,279 --> 01:15:40,079 he like stole one with a boot like this, Mario 1752 01:15:40,279 --> 01:15:42,319 was playing like garbage. She was the CPO. So I'm 1753 01:15:42,359 --> 01:15:44,960 not making front of my friend named Mario or something, 1754 01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,359 but that's how it was going. And then eventually I 1755 01:15:47,399 --> 01:15:50,680 caught up. I got the buddy I got who did 1756 01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,760 I get? I got Yoshi and that was a huge help. 1757 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,279 I think I got double stars with Yoshi, and so 1758 01:15:55,319 --> 01:15:57,000 eventually I climbed up and I was up there to 1759 01:15:57,079 --> 01:16:01,560 like seven eight stars, and then I think what happened 1760 01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:03,479 at the very end. I think me and MUDs both 1761 01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,520 ended the game with eight stars by the end of it, 1762 01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,439 because right at the end I had nine, she had eight. 1763 01:16:09,399 --> 01:16:12,920 And then and then Mario, yeah, he stole mine on 1764 01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,279 the last turn with that boo thing brought me down 1765 01:16:15,279 --> 01:16:17,840 to eight. So we tied at the very end, which 1766 01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,560 was crazy. So then it went to who has the 1767 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,479 most coins and she had ten more coins than me. 1768 01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:24,479 Speaker 2: She had seventy. 1769 01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:26,880 Speaker 1: I had sixty, so she got the win in the end. 1770 01:16:27,119 --> 01:16:28,920 But it was like, I don't know if I've ever 1771 01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:33,039 had eight stars in a Mario party game before, so 1772 01:16:33,079 --> 01:16:34,439 I don't know. We'll see if that was just because 1773 01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,199 me and Moz were playing against some I think we 1774 01:16:36,199 --> 01:16:38,840 were playing on normal modus CPUs, so like Mario was 1775 01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:40,119 kind of shit in the bed and the other guy 1776 01:16:40,199 --> 01:16:42,560 he was doing all right. So we'll see what it's like. 1777 01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,800 We're having like four human players that are smart and intelligent, 1778 01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:47,600 but that seems like a lot of stars to be 1779 01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,960 giving away. Obviously, there's ways to get double stars. The 1780 01:16:50,079 --> 01:16:52,079 mall one had shops everywhere, so you could buy all 1781 01:16:52,079 --> 01:16:53,960 sorts of items to help you get stars of course, 1782 01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,359 and ways to get coins, so it kind of feeding 1783 01:16:56,399 --> 01:16:57,960 the economy of it. So I don't know, maybe it 1784 01:16:58,039 --> 01:17:00,159 was just that map in Isolation, but I'm curious to 1785 01:17:00,199 --> 01:17:02,800 see it's because based on your reaction, it seemed like 1786 01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,359 the other maps were not given away stars like that 1787 01:17:05,399 --> 01:17:07,640 one was. But once again, I had just been a 1788 01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:08,520 love of players. 1789 01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Goomba Island didn't feel like it was just 1790 01:17:11,239 --> 01:17:14,960 it was giving away stars at all. I have had 1791 01:17:15,039 --> 01:17:18,039 a lot of success though with those a star stealing 1792 01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,760 uh spots where you just throw a spot like either two. 1793 01:17:22,079 --> 01:17:24,199 Speaker 1: I love those traps are nice. 1794 01:17:24,319 --> 01:17:29,079 Speaker 2: They're really really handy. Uh. The other thing too in multiplayer, 1795 01:17:30,039 --> 01:17:33,119 these shops have limited supplies of items, so I think all. 1796 01:17:33,039 --> 01:17:37,039 Speaker 1: The shops share how many I saw him? 1797 01:17:37,159 --> 01:17:40,000 Speaker 2: That is okay, okay, look that that's cool. I like 1798 01:17:40,079 --> 01:17:42,600 that dynamic a lot. So it's it's it's neat when 1799 01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:44,039 you go to the store and it's like, okay, there's 1800 01:17:44,079 --> 01:17:45,840 only one of these items left. There's like two of 1801 01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,119 those ones left, and so it really makes it again, 1802 01:17:48,199 --> 01:17:51,720 as you've been saying throughout this review, strategy. 1803 01:17:51,399 --> 01:17:55,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, now the decision is more than just 1804 01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:57,399 like do I go left or right? Like, there's a 1805 01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,000 little bit more m to be done as a player. 1806 01:18:00,159 --> 01:18:03,279 So that's cool. That's good stuff right on this This 1807 01:18:03,319 --> 01:18:05,920 is a fun discussion, Taylor, as it always is. Next week, 1808 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,239 you will be joining me again here because the new 1809 01:18:08,279 --> 01:18:11,239 Call of Duty comes out this Friday, so we will 1810 01:18:11,239 --> 01:18:13,479 be playing that and we'll be sharing our thoughts. We 1811 01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:16,760 got to plan a night to do a Zombies run, 1812 01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:17,840 I think, prior. 1813 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,079 Speaker 2: To the rules, it has to happen. 1814 01:18:20,119 --> 01:18:22,119 Speaker 1: This weekend's very busy for me, so I don't know 1815 01:18:22,119 --> 01:18:23,840 when it's gonna happen, but at some point we got 1816 01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,880 to make a Zombies run happen. And then yeah, I mean, 1817 01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:28,680 I'm gonna play on game Pass, so I'll have access 1818 01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,600 to everything, I guess, so I will jump into some campaign, 1819 01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:33,520 hopefull play some multiplayer, will see how much time I 1820 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,159 have this weekend. But that'll be next week's episode, along 1821 01:18:36,159 --> 01:18:37,920 with any other games we've been playing, news and all 1822 01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:40,399 that good stuff. But thank you Taylor for joining me, 1823 01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,680 thank you everyone for listening, and we'll see you again. 1824 01:18:43,720 --> 01:19:13,960 Then bye.