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Speaker 3: I don't know if maybe it's Grant, maybe it's me,

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Speaker 5: I only will say the best of them challenge in

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one on one Otherwise, what I've been trying to do

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one other than the inn A five one five.

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Speaker 6: That's what I will do.

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Speaker 5: So I will call out the kansall sports, you know,

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Speaker 6: Even a seven hundred.

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Speaker 4: That would be kind of fun that I'm down to do.

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Speaker 3: That would be actually really fun to do.

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Speaker 5: See what I mean, Like, that's what I'm down to do.

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I'm not gonna go on, but I will say our

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team is better.

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Speaker 3: It's so funny team we have like.

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Speaker 1: The jock through our show and like everybody else to

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get nerve through, you.

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: Seven hundred's got some guys.

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Speaker 4: Spence, Spence, Sen.

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Speaker 5: Oh c could play a Porter Larsen school like they

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got some guys over there, like they can play.

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Speaker 3: Amongst the BYU media. I think we're the only athletes.

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No wait, Spencer, vincel Linton, Jerem Jordan, do they are

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Speaker 6: They play?

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Speaker 4: Oh wait a second, we gotta get you too.

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Speaker 1: They play, they play, Yeah, they play, but like some

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Speaker 3: It's one thing to play patty cake, it's another one

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Speaker 1: They ever go to the uh uh the media tournament

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that they are?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there you go. Yeah, Spencer's on opposite team.

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Speaker 4: I look.

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Speaker 5: All I'm saying is we got a six y nine

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left tackle. You know who's going who's gonna light it up?

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He's been talking about it. So we got Martin, Bryce

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Speaker 3: Let's go, guys. It's a great day to be a Cougar.

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Speaker 4: Are you ready? Let's go.

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Speaker 3: This is what we need, just just one time debate.

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Speaker 1: Joel Klatt, the biggest b YU hater against r G three,

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a man who loves b YU more than any b

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YU media.

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Speaker 3: This is a guy in.

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Speaker 1: RG three who has Bear Bachermeier in his top five

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Heisman front runners right now, and he has Byu at

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the number four. And then Joel Klatt thinks that Byu

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will go eleven and two, lose to Texas Tech twice

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and still not make the playoffs, and even when he

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puts him in his top ten, he doesn't like to

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talk about it. I'm definitely not on either side of

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the spectrum. Both of those guys are crazier than anyone

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doing BOU or Utah media. But I think Fox Sports

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having just a pure debate on those guys talking BOYU.

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Speaker 4: Would be highly entertained.

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Speaker 3: I want RG three versus Joel Klatt right now, their

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their rating systems, how they justify their their rankings, their

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ratings for any number of topics in college football, because BYU.

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Speaker 4: Fans would definitely be rooting for RG three.

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Speaker 3: RG three currently has BYU as the number four team

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in the country in his top twelve college football teams

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after week nine, So Indiana, Ohio State, and Texas A

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and M are ahead of BYU. After BYU, though, is

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Heisman front runners after week nine, Haines King quarterback Georgia Tech,

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Mendoza quarterback Indiana and coming in at number five. Bear

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forsch one Air bear Bachmeyer, the bear Tar bear Bachmeyer.

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That is crazy insane, like we're b y U guys,

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and we are sitting here telling the national guy. Hey,

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RG three, you may be drinking a little too much

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of that blue kool lady, I love. I don't know

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about that one. Look everybody else's cheeks compared to compared

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to Robert Griffin the third. We like thirds around here.

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We got Ronald the three man. We were Ronald Weaver

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the third, and we got RG three and Rob Right

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the third, Rob Right the third.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: We got all these we got uh he used to

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call Gary Bhanna and GB three.

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Speaker 5: G three.

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Speaker 6: Cha the number.

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Speaker 4: Hey we like three? Three? Is my luck?

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Speaker 6: R D three rated the mooney three?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, goodez. All right, guys, VIC on the data

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and let's welcome and Martin Kelly to show Martin how

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Speaker 4: Not too bad?

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Speaker 6: Not too bad?

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Speaker 7: I agree with him? Or Robert Griffin the third is

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dring way too much blue kool aid BYU and fourth

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on the rankings, and Barry Bachmeyer fifth listen. I'm not

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gonna hate on that one at all. But Haines King

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number one in the Heisman No way this Mendoz out

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of Indiana. He's legitimately the front runner to win the

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Heisman Trophy. That is right there. I gotta give it

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to Robert Griffin the Third for fourth on his ranking

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because he's going by the fact that teams undefeated should

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be ahead of teams that have a one loss or

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two loss. I respect that, but if you had to

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just do it off of strength of schedules or the

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way Joe Kladd does, I don't hate the fact that

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he has BYU ninth on his list. I think that's

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a fair ranking for BYU. Some of the one loss

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teams ahead of BYU are they really good? And I

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just think I respect the fact that he puts undefeated

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teams ahead of one loss teams, But if you had

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to go off of strength of schedules, there are some

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one lost teams ahead of BYU, So both are really good.

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Both are really have their own points. But yeah, I

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agree Robert Griffin the Third is drinking a little bit

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too much blue kolid.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna put together for our question of the day,

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all of the rankings of college football.

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Speaker 4: So we're gonna get into Sagarin.

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efficiency rating ap POLE obviously Coaches Poll, and then I'm

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gonna pose the question, Uh, you know, from all of

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the you have the human element, you have the analytical element,

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like where do you rank BYU as a B YU fan?

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Speaker 4: Where do you put b YU in college football? This season?

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Speaker 3: You get to see the team every single week. You're

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analyzing the team every single week. You're seeing the wins,

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you're seeing the form and factor. And so we'll put

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You don't know, but you're about to find out, he says. Also,

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Gus Johnson giving Bear Bachmeyer a new nickname, and that's

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Speaker 4: Is there a team?

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Speaker 3: How much does he trust his Bway football team is

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what we're gonna get at. There's a number of analytics, yep,

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how is BYU fared in TV viewership thus far this season.

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What does it look like? And one of my favorite

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BYU offense coordinator. Uh, this is what he had to

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say coordinators quarter. Earlier this week, Iowa State was on

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a five game home win streak.

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Speaker 4: What does it mean to get the win?

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Speaker 8: It aims Yeah, great great environment, what a great great stadium. Uh,

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crowd noise was a factor. They were, they were into it.

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They're a great program, and it was it was to

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go in there and get a win. Was really one

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of the more satisfying, you know games I've been a

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part of in a while.

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Speaker 3: We put this out there, best win of the season.

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Where would Iowa State waight right.

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Speaker 4: Best win of the season.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're what we're really debating is Iowa State

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versus Utah?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: Are there any other that the Arizona game was a

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lot of fun because of how it ended, but I

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don't think that you would argue that that win is

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more valuable than Iowa State or Utah. And again Colorado

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kind of same deal where it ended in spectacular fashion,

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but as a win, we're not really comparing that to

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Iowa State or Utah.

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Speaker 4: So then I think what.

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Speaker 1: You have to kind of get into is you're weighing

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objective metrics and winning a big total championship versus emotion

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and how petty are you and looked as king petty

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number one on this show. Like, I don't disrespect anybody

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who says I'm good with beating Utah's as long as

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if it means we go one and eleven. I do

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think Iowa State is the better win overall, but I

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also think Utah was kind of bear Bachmeer's I was

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gonna say coming out party, but somebody didn't like when

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I said that the other day, So bear Bachmeyer's coming

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out party to the national scene I think was the

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Utah game. I think you really can make an argument

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for either one. I think for me, though, I'd probably

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say Iowa State given the fact that I think in

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the last their last ten home games, they'd only lost one,

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they were on a five game home win streak, they'd

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never given up I think a three hundred yard passer.

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I think something like fifteen games, something crazy like that.

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Like the things that Bay you did to Iowa State

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that no else had seemingly been able to do.

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Speaker 4: I think the answer is Utah.

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Speaker 1: But if you're arguing with your heart and saying Utah

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and over Iowa State, I don't hate.

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Speaker 3: That either, Ronnie, what do you got, you know, best

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to worst?

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Speaker 4: How would you rankle? Maybe top to bottom?

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Speaker 5: I mean, the worst obviously is West Virginia because West

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Virginia hasn't won a game yet in no regard Colorado's

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on a game.

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Speaker 6: So that's based off of record in Bear and the

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Big twelve.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Big twelve. Yeah, I'm not talking about non conference.

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I'm sorry, guys, you just gotta leave that be, right,

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because the BA you supposed to always to go three

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and on the non conference until they change and play

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other formidable opponents. You can't lose those guys, So going

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back to conference play right, And that's not overlooking, that's

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just calling out what it is. West Virginia is the

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worst win obviously, you know in that regard because they

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haven't won a game. Rich Rod has not figured it

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out there lost their star running back. The best I'm

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gonna go with is Iowa State. You're on the road

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in the toughest environment. You had l E S on

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your side. Utah had how many fall starts to starting

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that on end zone right there in the south end zone,

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So you knew that you could honestly look at the

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dead charged says BYU was if not if not the same,

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if not better in every position on the depth chart,

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maybe a couple in Utah's offensive tackles and smith Snowden

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in the defensive back room. So maybe outside of that.

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So I'm gonna go Iowa State because you lost LJ.

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Speaker 6: Martin.

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Speaker 5: You were forced to throw the football and it was

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very impressive. What Bear did you know if that would

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have happened at home? Okay, crowd on your side, but

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what bar did is a true freshman and everybody that

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discrediting BYU not giving them credit. That's why BYU been

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was ranked number top ten coming in is because of

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what Bear did.

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Speaker 6: Because they lost LG. That's why they had no choice.

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Speaker 5: If they didn't, they'd have been given favoritism, they'd have

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been disrespecting because if you're not gonna say that BYU

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is a top ten team after what they did to

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Iowa State, who, by the way, has been I remind

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people they've been in two Big twelve championships in last

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five to six seasons.

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Speaker 6: They've been there.

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Speaker 5: BYU has it their first season there five and seven.

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They lost like four or five straight. They didn't they

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didn't get peligible. So no, it's Iowa State win. Utah's

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next right now. They're just based on that. So yeah,

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that's what I'm going with.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I still think, you know, you got to take

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Utah's the best win, and I do think Utah is

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the better team than out of Iowa State.

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Speaker 4: I do believe. I think Utah's a better team.

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Speaker 3: I think b will you got them at home, and

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I think they got uh uh. They they took advantage

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of it and uh on a neutral field. It'd be

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really interesting to see what happens with BOU and Utah.

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You very well could get that in a.

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Speaker 4: Big twelve championship game. Oh would you like that? Though?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think the fans want any piece of that.

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They already want. They want to let's just keep it pushing.

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You got to losses, but you could sell out Jerry's

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World though eighty thousand.

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Speaker 6: You could also sell out Jerry's Wild with Texas Tech

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and Iowa State.

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Speaker 1: Just saying maybe possibly, I think the country would want

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to see it, like give it, yeah, give the vitriol,

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the anger. I think the I think the country would

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love to see.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you probably could Championship weekend.

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Speaker 1: Possibly, I would be Yeah, that'd be a lot of

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fun for everyone who didn't have skin in the game.

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If you had skin in the game, you would have

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nothing but anxiety for twenty four hours.

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Speaker 4: Yep, all right, let's get back to it.

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Speaker 3: A Rod Saturday. We saw number two Saturday. We saw

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something we hadn't seen this season. BA scoring on the

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opening drive. What a great response to Iowa State's opening drive.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 8: It was a great response. And you know, a year

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ago we were a really good fast start team and

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this year, for whatever reason, we've done a lot of

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good things, but we hadn't scored on our first drive

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yet this year and saw it was real touchdown yeah, touchdown, yeah, touchdown.

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So I'm just really happy with the way the guys

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execute on this draft catch, great throw and catch there.

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Bear had to you know, fit that in that window.

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And then this was a big time throwing the chase

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and then great run after catch on the on the

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boot leg and then you know, of course we got

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the ball in the end zone there with LJ put

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a big personnel group in there, an extra offensive lineman

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and just power.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it was a great drive. Let's talk about

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like scoring on the first drive. Gregor belt put tweets

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this out like every single season. I think he talked

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about it with like twenty years ago when I was playing,

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like on his broadcast, like when BAU scores on the

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first drive, like win like ninety percent of the time.

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Speaker 4: It's some absurd stat.

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Speaker 3: Now, BAU did not score first, but they did score

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on their first drive, and it just we kept in

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the game.

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Speaker 4: We stayed in the game.

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Speaker 3: Like at the end of the first half, I was

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I was, I was chatting with my former players groups

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and and and we were just kind of all like

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in awe that BAU was still in the game with

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Iowa State accumulating for three hundred twenty yards of total offense,

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Like somehow, Bo, you found a way to continue to

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score that is a tip of the cap to eight Rod.

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This is a tip of the cap to this offense. Yes,

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but a Rod and his coaching staff, in my opinion,

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because you lost LJ Martin and much of what this

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offense is built around. Let's be honest, he's built around

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LJ and Bear in the run game, and they did

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not have l J. Unfortunately, not to take anything away

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from any of the running backs, it's not LJ.

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Speaker 4: No one's LJ on this roster, and that's okay.

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Speaker 3: You don't typically have two bell Cow NFL running backs

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on your roster, like I don't know if BYU has

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ever had that, quite honestly, the only thing that you

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could say is like, well, they've had two like you,

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They've had a full back like Harvey Youung and Fui Vakapuna.

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We're like running back tail running back full back. Fui

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played fullback in the NFL, but he was a running

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back at BYU. It's a rarity, like two NFL running

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backs in the backfield for BA. That does not happen, Okay,

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it just doesn't. So anyway, what I'm getting at is

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A Rod deserves his flowers, and I hope more and

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more bway fans are giving him his flowers at least

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this week. Look, they can turn on you just as

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fast as they can praise you. If you know you could.

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You could lose the fan base in the by week

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for all I know. Maybe not in the bye week,

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but versus Tech Tec on the road, you can be zero.

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You can go from hero to zero, from zero to

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hero real quick with any fan base.

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Speaker 1: If BYU doesn't get that opening drive touchdown, I think

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you could make the case that they probably lose that

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football game. That's assuming that LJ still gets hurt in

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all of those things. But it felt like Iowa State

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they sucked all the air out of BYU's lungs on

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that opening play because it was just a monster shot

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and follow Towe was a little eight getting over there,

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and then he jumps the route. It felt like for

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a second there, oh, no, are we in trouble because

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we are on the road.

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Speaker 4: We are in ames.

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Speaker 1: If BYU doesn't respond with a touchdown on that opening drive,

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I mean, incredible time for you to get your first.

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Speaker 3: Opening drive touchdown of the game.

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Speaker 1: And you probably were never more desperate for an opening

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drive touchdown than at Iowa State. I think there's a possibility.

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If BOU doesn't get that, they just can never swing

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back momentum their way and they probably lose that game.

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Speaker 4: However, as much as ioways state stole.

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Speaker 1: The momentum with that shot by you took everything back

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by driving down the field and getting that touchdown. But

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if they don't get it, I think we are in

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a scary situation.

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Speaker 3: Scary indeed. Scary indeed, But shout out to a Rod

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number three. This team was down ten points and lost LJ.

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Speaker 4: Mart. You were working with some adversity early in this.

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Speaker 8: Game, Yeah, for sure. And you know our game plan

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starts with LJ. Every week. We're a physical run team.

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That's where we want to start in. Our passing game

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is mostly this year our success, most of it's been

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off with play action to you know, off of stuff

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to LJ. So losing him was a blow, not only

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in we're losing one of our best players, but also

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pretty large chunk of our game plan that's geared around him.

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So but I thought our coaches and players, we all

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did a good job working together to figure out some

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answers about him, and it took some It took some

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work there. You know, we had a quarter where we

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just kind of didn't the best we could. Then we

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had halftime was really where we where we figured out

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some more things.

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Speaker 3: They went into half and I thought they did a

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great job at half times. So they ended up putting

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up the same amount of points in the second half

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to that of the first half.

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Speaker 4: Do you realize that seventeen to seventeen? Right, I didn't.

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Speaker 3: Then you got an additional score from the defense, So

475
00:21:31,799 --> 00:21:37,200
he did equivalency. He just continued on pace. He was

476
00:21:37,839 --> 00:21:40,559
you know what I mean, right, Like, is my math incorrect?

477
00:21:42,759 --> 00:21:47,319
Speaker 1: Well, well, they scored twenty four points in the second half, okay, Okay,

478
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,039
well yeah, but.

479
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 3: They scored seventeen in the first half. Well that's well,

480
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,680
they scored twenty four because there was a defensive touchdown.

481
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,599
Speaker 4: Okay, so you're talking about the offense specifically, Yes.

482
00:21:55,599 --> 00:22:00,839
Speaker 3: Offense scoring, right, there was equipment there, it was and

483
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,000
I don't know about total yards, but I imagine it

484
00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:05,720
was also pretty close. I don't know if you have

485
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,920
first half to second half total yards of offense. But

486
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,920
at the end of the day, look shout out to Abron,

487
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:13,240
Shout out to Abron.

488
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 1: I will say, though, this was a bad time to

489
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,640
find out what you had at your backup running back spot.

490
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,720
And I know we've been talking about this seemingly every

491
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,839
week of the season, but we've been saying like, hey,

492
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,759
you gotta find out who your backup is. And the

493
00:22:27,799 --> 00:22:30,119
worst time to have to find out what you're gonna

494
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,680
do when you don't have LJ is on the road

495
00:22:32,799 --> 00:22:35,720
in Ams. Now, all the credit in the world to

496
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,880
a Rod and this football team, because it didn't matter

497
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,000
that LJ went down.

498
00:22:40,039 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 3: The offense was just as just as.

499
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 1: Maybe if not more productive in the second half, and

500
00:22:45,759 --> 00:22:48,480
so like to the people like me who kept saying, hey,

501
00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:50,960
who's what are you gonna do when you don't have LJ, like,

502
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,160
they still found an answer. However, then when you're in

503
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,440
Monday media availability and someone asks you, hey, if you

504
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,240
thought about moving someone to the running back position and

505
00:23:00,279 --> 00:23:03,200
you're like, uh, maybe we're considering all options, that tells

506
00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:06,079
me that maybe you don't feel super.

507
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,599
Speaker 4: Confident in what you still have there.

508
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: Again, it didn't matter because they got the result that

509
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,160
they needed, But there could not have been a worse

510
00:23:13,279 --> 00:23:15,279
time for you to have to find out what happens

511
00:23:15,279 --> 00:23:16,160
when you don't have LJ.

512
00:23:16,559 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 4: Than at ams. This is a nightmare.

513
00:23:18,799 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 3: It was a bit of a Halloween nightmare that turned

514
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,759
in two a celestial experience on the road.

515
00:23:24,839 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 4: It just really was.

516
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 3: It ended up being a beautiful dream that all of Kugnation.

517
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:32,559
Speaker 4: Dreamt of, right.

518
00:23:32,599 --> 00:23:36,319
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're talking to Ben Krittle back in

519
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,680
two thousand and ten when b Yu went in da Independence,

520
00:23:39,759 --> 00:23:43,359
we're just hoping, Okay, we're making this. We just want

521
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,759
to be here an independent for two, three, four five

522
00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:48,640
years at most and then get the invite to the

523
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,240
Pac twelve or the Big twelve.

524
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 4: Right.

525
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 3: The dream of wandering the desert for so long was

526
00:23:56,839 --> 00:23:59,680
to get into a power for conference, power five conference

527
00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:03,400
and to be able to be capable of winning on

528
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,200
the road in the most hostile environments amidst some of

529
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,160
the best fan bases in college football.

530
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,839
Speaker 4: And you did that, and you did it with flair, you.

531
00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:15,319
Speaker 3: Did it with style, you did it with complimentary football,

532
00:24:15,839 --> 00:24:21,559
and the world took notice. Two point six million vrs.

533
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,880
Boom shacka lock up. Now, what is the status Aaron

534
00:24:27,599 --> 00:24:28,240
on LJ.

535
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:28,839
Speaker 4: Martin.

536
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, it'll be a little longer till we know

537
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,480
he's I think he's he's already seen some doctors. I

538
00:24:35,519 --> 00:24:37,759
think he's seen some more today and the next couple

539
00:24:37,759 --> 00:24:39,839
of days they'll be some we'll find out more.

540
00:24:42,279 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 3: So can you take us through what the process is like?

541
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: Because I think a lot of fans don't understand, like

542
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,279
when a player gets hurt, is there a team doctor

543
00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:51,440
that they go to? Are they going to the clinic

544
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,839
down the road? What's the process like? And cause I

545
00:24:54,839 --> 00:24:56,200
think a lot of fans when they hear oh, he

546
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,519
saw doctors and he saw more doctors, they had to like,

547
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,559
can you take us through that process?

548
00:25:00,599 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 4: And a little bit behind the curtain. Yeah.

549
00:25:02,039 --> 00:25:06,039
Speaker 3: So number one, you have Brett Mortenson TJ. Bass who

550
00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:09,640
are your your athletic trenders doctor. Brett Mortenson's a uh,

551
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,720
a physical therapist.

552
00:25:12,079 --> 00:25:12,319
Speaker 4: Uh.

553
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:17,319
Speaker 3: He's a PhD physical therapist. So all the exercise physiology,

554
00:25:17,319 --> 00:25:20,160
all the anatomy physiology, all the studies that are associated

555
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,079
with being in a PhD.

556
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 4: He's got it all. Uh. And then t J.

557
00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 3: Baster is kind of like the head football athletic trainer

558
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,319
and so he's been an athletic trader for a long time.

559
00:25:28,759 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 4: And then in co.

560
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,599
Speaker 3: Correlation with that, you have Kolby Clawson who's also a

561
00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:38,359
physical therapist. Terrence Motley is also a physical therapist, and

562
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,440
he's over like the director of rehab. And then you

563
00:25:41,559 --> 00:25:47,640
have uh the uh the internal meda medical staff. So

564
00:25:47,759 --> 00:25:51,279
like doctor Dane Alred, he's an orthopedic surgeon. You have

565
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:57,759
some non surgical UH physicians as well on staff.

566
00:25:58,279 --> 00:26:00,599
Speaker 4: UH. I believe they have.

567
00:26:00,599 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 3: A couple here that that are within.

568
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 4: Within the kind of the staff.

569
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 3: You know, I can name them all, but anyway, they

570
00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:14,759
all valuate the shoulder, right, and they're gonna come to

571
00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:15,680
some sort of conclusion.

572
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 4: They ended up.

573
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 3: Shutting him down for the game X rays and they

574
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,559
said no x ray.

575
00:26:20,599 --> 00:26:25,559
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, they took x rays. Yeah, typically they there

576
00:26:25,839 --> 00:26:26,720
is now.

577
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,759
Speaker 3: There are ways in which you can get like like

578
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,920
some MRI imaging at on the road, but like they

579
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,480
typically want to come back for that. So they they

580
00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:41,920
come back Sunday. They typically Mriot or Monday, depending on

581
00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:46,160
how how quickly you need the imaging. They got evaluated

582
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,720
by probably the the internal staff again on Sunday, and

583
00:26:50,759 --> 00:26:53,440
now they're getting second opinions, right, so they go into

584
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:59,039
the external medical groups that aren't necessarily contracted out with

585
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,759
b YU and you may go up to Salt Lake.

586
00:27:01,799 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 4: You may go up to Park City. You may go

587
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:04,519
you know, to.

588
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 3: Rosenberg Couli, or you go up to Tosh or whatever. Right,

589
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,519
you get a second opinion, and then you come to

590
00:27:13,559 --> 00:27:15,640
the conclusion as to what you're gonna do, what your

591
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,119
treatment plan is collectively right.

592
00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 4: So I don't know if that takes any sense.

593
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,039
Speaker 3: So at that time on Monday, when they're getting second opinions,

594
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,119
and some people say, well, is second opinion is a

595
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,640
bad thing, No, it's just it's education. You typically want

596
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,079
to get a second opinion on your musclear skeletal health

597
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,000
if you're a athlete. So you have the imaging and

598
00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:43,279
then you have the manual evow hands on. Let me

599
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,720
check range of motion, let me look at swelling, let

600
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,720
me look at the skin, let me look at the joint.

601
00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:50,680
Let me see if there's any sort of like manipulation

602
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,079
in that joint. And so they're evaluating the gleno humoral

603
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,480
joint like your big old armbone that goes up into

604
00:27:56,519 --> 00:27:58,920
your arm socket. They're looking at that, and they're also

605
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,640
looking at the AC joint out by the mechanism. I

606
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,880
think it's an AC joint separation. Okay, I think it's

607
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,319
an AC joint, the crombia clivicular joint. And if it is,

608
00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:11,119
I think that boots well for by U and LJ

609
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:11,799
coming back.

610
00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:13,319
Speaker 4: Even if it's a.

611
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 3: Glenno humoral supplexation dislocation, he is still playing. He still

612
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,880
play because it's probably a laboral tear at worst, and

613
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,319
label tears. You know, you start doing physical therapy, get

614
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,000
a little creatin in you, you know, and start to

615
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,319
strengthen that shoulder again, put a brace on it. Compression

616
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,319
where guys have been playing with that, I mean, shit,

617
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,759
you saw you saw Carson Wentz with like an armed

618
00:28:37,839 --> 00:28:39,160
I don't know if you watched that game. He was

619
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:44,680
like dislocating. Yeah, he just kept on dislocating it. He was,

620
00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:47,519
but he still played and he finally pulled him all right,

621
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,880
So like you can play, and I don't think his

622
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,079
joint is that lax after a first go around anyway,

623
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,720
Like Carson's got a like a really lax shoulder. So

624
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,519
that's kind of process. They want to do what's best

625
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,440
for the athlete long term, and they take all that

626
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,079
into account, like is it gonna be?

627
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 4: Can you make it worse? Yeah?

628
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,839
Speaker 3: You probably can make it worse, right, you can, but

629
00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:16,200
you know, do you want to continue to play? And

630
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,359
how how much of a long term impact is that.

631
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,720
Maybe we'll get an orthpeedic surgeon on to talk about this.

632
00:29:22,079 --> 00:29:23,839
That'd be the best thing to do. They can, they

633
00:29:23,839 --> 00:29:26,599
can pontificate on it a little bit more. Let's get

634
00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:30,519
back to the sound a Rod status of LJ mor

635
00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:32,880
We're done with that logo. Lutuwei made a big play

636
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,440
to get your offense back on the field.

637
00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 4: Explain what he did? Number five?

638
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,559
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was huge. E was a bizarre play too.

639
00:29:40,599 --> 00:29:43,079
I'm not sure who Roco was throwing it to. He's

640
00:29:43,119 --> 00:29:45,599
a heck of a quarterbacks. We've watched him on film

641
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,039
so much and he's been such a good player, and

642
00:29:48,319 --> 00:29:50,240
that was that one was a mystery. But we'll take it.

643
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,319
Speaker 4: We'll take a defensive end on the sideline making a

644
00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:52,759
play like that.

645
00:29:53,599 --> 00:29:56,759
Speaker 8: Loan and that really really was a big.

646
00:29:56,599 --> 00:30:00,759
Speaker 3: Play, nassive play, guys. I think we got confirmation on

647
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:03,839
what happened. What happened, gentlemen, Yeah, oh yeah, thanks you Brett.

648
00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:04,720
I'll say it, yeah, Brett.

649
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,079
Speaker 5: And now we're looking at it, We're like, this ball had

650
00:30:06,119 --> 00:30:08,079
to be tipped, so Brett hammer and this always said,

651
00:30:08,079 --> 00:30:09,880
we check Tate Ben trying to do our best journalist

652
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,880
to check tape. That's what Jock's check you taught us

653
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,000
out well as being a former player. Keanu Ton of

654
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:17,720
Vasa tips the ball. J Drew actually quot tweeted your

655
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,079
thing and says in the press box they said it

656
00:30:20,119 --> 00:30:23,000
indeed got tipped by Keon Ton of Austa. So Rocco

657
00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:25,000
was throwing to the right guy who was opened to

658
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,839
wave his hand, but because fifty seven has them big

659
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,920
palls up front, he tipped it. And then the other

660
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,839
big palls of number seven said.

661
00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:32,279
Speaker 6: Thank you very much.

662
00:30:34,079 --> 00:30:36,319
Speaker 4: Beautiful play. Keanu Ton of Austin great.

663
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,279
Speaker 1: Not getting enough credit, by the way, for enough credit

664
00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:41,759
the way and Rocco is taking a lot of heat

665
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:43,319
owing that pass.

666
00:30:43,359 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 4: We're all like, oh, what an idiot? Why did he

667
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:45,240
throw that?

668
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 3: It's like, well, and.

669
00:30:46,839 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: Look, I've gone back and watched from several different angles.

670
00:30:50,759 --> 00:30:52,920
Keanu gets his hand on the ball, but it's not

671
00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:56,720
a full bat down like the ball still looks like

672
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,319
it's moving and rotating the way that it should be.

673
00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:02,920
But Keanu gets enough of his hand on the ball

674
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,200
to slow it down so that it goes to Logan

675
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,279
but it doesn't wobble or move, and so it looks

676
00:31:08,359 --> 00:31:11,640
like a pass that Roco threw. So then Roco takes

677
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,480
all his heat from making a poor decision. Keanu doesn't

678
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,680
get enough credit for getting his hand on the ball. Yeah,

679
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,160
and Logan gets as much credit as he should for

680
00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:20,200
intercepting the ball.

681
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,799
Speaker 4: But look, Roco beck does a really good quarterback.

682
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:25,359
Speaker 1: When that happened, we all were texting, like, why in

683
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,160
the world did Roco throw that? That doesn't make any sense.

684
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,599
We thought he was one of the best quarterbacks in

685
00:31:29,599 --> 00:31:33,200
the Big Twelve. Well, turns out Keanutanovasa.

686
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,119
Speaker 4: Just made a really great play.

687
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 3: Shout out to Keanu hasn't gotten maybe a whole lot

688
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,039
of love from the Kugarnation this year, but he's doing

689
00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:45,279
the dirty work, the lord's work in the trenches.

690
00:31:45,839 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: We've seen him or not seen him, but in the

691
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,519
Iowa State game, it felt like we saw him out

692
00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:53,440
on the edge a few times. Do you think that

693
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,200
that's something that they'll continue to employ, because it felt

694
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,920
like when they moved him out there, it felt like

695
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,200
he had some success. Obviously, he stay in the middle

696
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,000
like for majority, but do you think they'll keep doing

697
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,720
that because I thought he looked pretty good out there.

698
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:08,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, so when you're willing to so if you put him,

699
00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:10,960
I think in that particular situation, that particular play. So

700
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,319
he lined up in a three tech, which is essentially

701
00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:16,960
over the guard. He was not in the one tech

702
00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:21,039
or zero technique over the centers. They drop Logan Latui

703
00:32:21,119 --> 00:32:21,880
on that same side in.

704
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 4: The coverage, right, yep, okay.

705
00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:25,799
Speaker 3: So then he everyone kind of in and the and

706
00:32:25,839 --> 00:32:28,599
the and the pressure came from the field side from

707
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,119
I want to say, Max Alfred the gap, so everyone

708
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,400
kind of shifts over and that's why he was on

709
00:32:36,599 --> 00:32:38,920
like over by like the sea gap to end the

710
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,319
play and getting his hand up. That being said, I

711
00:32:43,359 --> 00:32:47,240
do think from a if you're a tenured guy and

712
00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:50,640
you understand front and you understand different techniques like growing

713
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,720
up at one point or another, he was a defensive

714
00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:56,000
end Kiana was he's got so big that he had

715
00:32:56,119 --> 00:32:58,079
moved him inside.

716
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Speaker 4: We do employ some thirty fronts.

717
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 3: You're right, so and uh and and putting Keano at

718
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:09,240
the five tech sometimes will give him an opportunity which

719
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:12,559
is like over the defense offensive tackle as a d N.

720
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,240
Sometimes that will allow him to get a one on

721
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,400
one with a tackle depending on how they want to

722
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:24,759
block it and one on ones for Keanu gonna be good?

723
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,000
Now is he a speed rusher? Is he gonna, you know,

724
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:28,880
do all that? No, but he will bull rush the

725
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,039
crap out of you. I don't want to one. They

726
00:33:31,079 --> 00:33:33,960
did this once upon a time with Kyros Tonga, and

727
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,480
it's very difficult to block a big guy that has

728
00:33:36,519 --> 00:33:39,759
some explosivity to him. If he bulls rushing. It's like

729
00:33:39,799 --> 00:33:41,720
you just start getting backed up, right. He's like, don't

730
00:33:41,759 --> 00:33:45,359
don't they do that hop step hop step hot step?

731
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

732
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,799
Speaker 3: It's kind of like back it up and it'll collapse

733
00:33:48,839 --> 00:33:54,480
pockets pretty nicely, and and and and and it also

734
00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:58,200
gives it gives them an opportunity to do something different.

735
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,400
And like everybody wants the ability to rush off the edge.

736
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,359
Everybody wants to be the premier pass rusher, so it

737
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,159
kind of gives them a cookie and incentive. And John

738
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:11,400
Tamway pay has been good, as Purcell has been good.

739
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,000
Josh Kirkland or Josh is it Josh Kirklan Just I'm

740
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,440
like Josh, j I was just talking to my brother Josh.

741
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,039
Speaker 6: Was Josh Curdle good?

742
00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Josh my neighbor as well, uh in your neighbor

743
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,039
and uh so like if you do go to a

744
00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:33,400
thirty front, Keanu's Keanu moving out at the five tech.

745
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,920
It's like, you know, well done, thou good and faithful servant,

746
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:39,760
like eating down all these blocks. Now go get the

747
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,360
quarterback and get a chance to do it.

748
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 4: That's nice.

749
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,199
Speaker 5: He would he would have had a Roco too, Rocco

750
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,119
hashtag the little almost kid. Anyway he had he would

751
00:34:48,119 --> 00:34:49,840
have had a Roco too. But he drew a cup

752
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,239
of holding calls. Guys did not like Keano on the end,

753
00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:55,039
Like Keanu was getting there and I'm like holding holding

754
00:34:55,079 --> 00:34:57,280
then if I throw the flag, I'm like, fifty seven

755
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,599
is a problem in that in that thirty front that

756
00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:01,280
they run Ben when he's on the edge, he drew

757
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,400
a couple, So that might be the guy that is

758
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,119
not getting enough talk of getting enough praise. Tip Ball

759
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,960
drew a couple holding penalties. That's impressive in my opinion.

760
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 3: Guys, let's get it. Take a brief time out. We'll

761
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,440
come back though. More soundbites from Aaron Rodders, your offensive

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coordinator reading between the lines coming up next. Ronald three

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Man Weaver, Red Hammer by my side, Vic on the

764
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data and my guy Martin Kelly behind the glass. Let's

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get into a question of poll today and more coming

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up next. This is Cougar Sports one three nine, ninety

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as I say, not as I do.

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Speaker 4: Question of the Day.

814
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Speaker 3: What is BYU's true ranking in your opinion. I've been aggregating,

815
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,679
looking at all the different metrics, all the different you

816
00:37:59,679 --> 00:38:04,639
know you polls and metrics here, analytics that contribute to

817
00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:08,679
the conversation, right, and so I have now I got

818
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,840
seven different metrics that we can break down. What is

819
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,760
BYU's true ranking in your opinion? Mass He's got bus

820
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:21,480
eighth Coaches Poll, has BA at ninth, ap Pole at tenth, ESPN,

821
00:38:21,519 --> 00:38:29,639
FPI sixteenth, FEI, Framo eighteenth, ESPN sp plus nineteenth, and

822
00:38:29,679 --> 00:38:33,840
then Sagarin at twenty fourth. Okay, so it gives you

823
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,800
kind of a broad spectrum. Obviously, there are top twenty

824
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,239
five teams. They are top twenty five teen. RG Three's

825
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,159
got them at number four. I don't know if that's

826
00:38:41,159 --> 00:38:42,719
an accurate depiction. I don't know if that's who bway

827
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:47,480
you wa wait, but you know there's some truth in

828
00:38:47,519 --> 00:38:50,199
between all these numbers. Where do you see BYU ending

829
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,559
up at the end of the season. Last year they

830
00:38:51,559 --> 00:38:55,320
were thirteenth, right, going eleven and two with a big

831
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,320
win in the Alimi Bowl. Do you think they surpassed that?

832
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,239
Are they a better team than they were like last

833
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,800
year versus the field?

834
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

835
00:39:04,559 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 3: I definitely think they're a better team than they were

836
00:39:06,519 --> 00:39:06,960
last year.

837
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 4: I think they're a more complete team than they were

838
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:09,400
last year.

839
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,079
Speaker 3: I think I think they played cleaner football than they

840
00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:12,760
did last year.

841
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,039
Speaker 4: And that's objective data. That's not the quarter.

842
00:39:16,639 --> 00:39:19,079
Speaker 1: Where will they be at the end of the season,

843
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,320
that is that is the question. Part of what hurt

844
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,519
them last year was they lost back to back games.

845
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:28,679
And it's not about it's it's it's about when you lose.

846
00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:32,239
And if you lose, especially back to back fashion, then

847
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,760
when you lose the second time, all anyone remembers is, well,

848
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,800
they already lost last week and now they're losing again,

849
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,320
and that compounds and.

850
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 4: That hurts you.

851
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,199
Speaker 1: I don't see them losing back to back games because

852
00:39:41,199 --> 00:39:43,239
I think even if you lose to Texas Tech, I

853
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,639
don't think you're losing to TCU. Now you could lose

854
00:39:46,679 --> 00:39:49,199
to Cincinnati that that is possible.

855
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,119
Speaker 4: It's on the table.

856
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I think thirteen is probably close if you're

857
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,440
I think thirteen to me is like.

858
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 4: I don't know how you look at it, ceiling or floor,

859
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,079
like that's the floor.

860
00:40:01,159 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: The worst option I think is thirteen again, but I

861
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,440
think your ceiling is maybe higher maybe you get into

862
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:08,320
the eight than nine.

863
00:40:08,519 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 4: I know I think it was.

864
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: Heather Dnich has them as the seven seed right now

865
00:40:13,519 --> 00:40:15,840
headed to the college football playoffs. I think that's certainly

866
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,559
possible if they win the Big Twelve championship and make

867
00:40:18,559 --> 00:40:20,360
the playoffs, Like where does.

868
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 4: The committee put them then?

869
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:25,159
Speaker 1: And and that I'm them not sure as of today,

870
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:29,079
though I think they're in a good spot. If I

871
00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:32,119
had to nitpick, though, I think they're better than Miami.

872
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,199
So when we're talking about the A people and then

873
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,599
being ranked at ten with Miami, I think they're better

874
00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:38,320
than Miami.

875
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 4: And I also to Martin's.

876
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,599
Speaker 1: Point about what RG three said is you should get

877
00:40:43,639 --> 00:40:48,199
credit for being undefeated because that is extremely difficult to

878
00:40:48,199 --> 00:40:50,159
do BYU Georgia.

879
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 4: Tech, anm Indiana, Ohio State.

880
00:40:53,079 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: Those are the guys in the top fifteen who are

881
00:40:55,519 --> 00:40:57,719
undefeated right now, so you should get credit for that.

882
00:40:58,079 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 4: Miami had a bad loss.

883
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: Again it's a bad team where they looked bad against Louisville.

884
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 4: Carson back through three interceptions.

885
00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt has good wins, so like I don't want to

886
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,159
take it from them, there's a lot of people who

887
00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:12,599
have really good wins in this top ten so I'm

888
00:41:12,639 --> 00:41:14,840
not super upset about it, but I do feel pretty

889
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,960
passionately the b or you should be higher than Miami.

890
00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 6: Ceiling been is six floors thirteen.

891
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,519
Speaker 5: The reason why I go to high they can get

892
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:28,239
to six you win the Big Title game, and you know,

893
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,519
depending how it falls, because some of these other SEC

894
00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:32,360
teams are gonna have to play each other, and if

895
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,760
you win your conference championship game, you're gonna jump up

896
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,480
because they won't play. They'll only jump up one spot, right,

897
00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:39,639
But I think when the College Football Playoff Committe comes

898
00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:41,639
out with it Bay you again will be somewhere between

899
00:41:41,679 --> 00:41:44,079
the seven to ninth. So I'm gonna go ceiling is six.

900
00:41:44,119 --> 00:41:46,440
I don't think they'll get higher than that, but I

901
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,480
think the floor is thirteen. The reason why I say

902
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,440
that this is what it comes down to. Are they

903
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,119
an undefeated or one loss team going into the title game? Right,

904
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,360
I said, I think they'll be eleven to one. Now

905
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,679
you lose two games, you're out. You're at thirteen. You're

906
00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:00,639
gonna be sitting on the outside. Look and then unfortunately

907
00:42:00,679 --> 00:42:02,280
that's just how it goes. They're not gonna put a

908
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,800
two loss Big twelve team into Martin Kelly's point. Over

909
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,119
a two loss SEC team, it will not happen. Over

910
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:09,360
a two loss big team team. It will not happen.

911
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,519
Even if they have a better strength to schedule, they

912
00:42:11,559 --> 00:42:15,199
will not do it. Human nature, the committee won't. They're

913
00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:17,519
gonna falter. They're gonna be like, I can't do that.

914
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,400
But if you're a defeated going into the title game

915
00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:23,320
and you lose that game, you have a shot in

916
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,159
my opinion, because I think a one lost BAU team,

917
00:42:26,159 --> 00:42:29,880
if your only loss was that the conference championship will

918
00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:33,800
devote should go it should vote more and hold more

919
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,599
weight and not kicking you out.

920
00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:36,119
Speaker 4: It depends.

921
00:42:36,159 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 6: Remember that happened to what SMU last year? Right, they

922
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:39,400
were undefeated.

923
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,559
Speaker 5: Man, they got the one loss in the conference championship game,

924
00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:43,320
and then what happened?

925
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 4: They still were in at number twelve.

926
00:42:45,039 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 5: So based off of that date, on what I've seen,

927
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,599
that's what I'm gonna go with in that regard six

928
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:50,280
and thirteen.

929
00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 3: You know what Bau's send a chance of winning a

930
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:59,480
national championship is this year two point make the national

931
00:42:59,519 --> 00:43:07,920
championship seven percent. Playoff chance right now is seventy percent. Yeah,

932
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,719
the way that they're playing right now when the conference

933
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,400
is only at thirty nine point one, but it is

934
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,280
the highest of any Big twelve team.

935
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that is true.

936
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,119
Speaker 3: They're projected to end the season eleven and and and

937
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,440
two is what they haven't at right now. Eleven and

938
00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:27,760
one point seven losses is the analytic for per ESPN

939
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,639
College Football Power Index. I believe they actually the AP

940
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,199
poll right now has BYU wear they're probably gonna end

941
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,679
up at the end of the season. I feel like

942
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,800
buy is a top ten team in college football. They're

943
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,280
right at the cusp of being better than that. I

944
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,679
want to believe that they have the dogs, they have

945
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:51,039
the horses to make not only the College Football Playoff,

946
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,679
or not only to win a Big twelve championship or

947
00:43:54,679 --> 00:43:56,400
at least get to the Big Towal Championship, but enter

948
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,719
into the COLLG Football Playoff and have a game in

949
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,360
the biggest stage in college football, you know, in the

950
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,440
college football world. I think at the end of the year,

951
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,280
as I look at the talent, I look at the coaching,

952
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,719
I looked at the resources, I look at the abilities

953
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:11,760
of this team.

954
00:44:12,199 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 4: Like to me, it's.

955
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,639
Speaker 3: There's there's no doubt that they they should be a

956
00:44:16,679 --> 00:44:19,039
top ten team at the end of the year.

957
00:44:19,039 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 4: They really should be.

958
00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 3: They have true complimentary football, they're stout in the run game.

959
00:44:26,199 --> 00:44:29,880
Look at the weaknesses that they that have been exposed

960
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,599
to a degree in in the games in these eight games.

961
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:36,960
What would we say are the weaknesses. I would say

962
00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:41,800
the outside run game. When we're not fully healthy, When

963
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,800
Jack Kelly and Isaiah Glaster are not fully healthy, and

964
00:44:45,159 --> 00:44:48,039
we have a stout defensive front, but we don't have

965
00:44:48,159 --> 00:44:53,360
like a like super long athletic defensive front that runs

966
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,800
sidelin the sideline, we can get out flanked.

967
00:44:57,119 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 4: Does that make sense?

968
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:58,639
Speaker 6: Absolutely?

969
00:44:58,719 --> 00:44:59,599
Speaker 4: We can day it off flight.

970
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 3: And then when we are when we do get exposed

971
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:09,599
in man, it's typically because either we don't have a

972
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:14,760
true coverage nickel, we don't have a true coverage strong safety.

973
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 6: That's what they picked on. That's what they picked on

974
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:16,800
a film.

975
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 3: So like you have to be judicious about how you

976
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,599
employ your man coverage. Maybe Jonathan eBay gets back, Tommy

977
00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:27,559
Prass's could get back and be at that nickel spot.

978
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:29,840
I'd rather have him at free safety. I think he's

979
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,079
good at nickel. I don't think that's his true position.

980
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,159
Now give them another year of running like you gotta run.

981
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,360
He played free safety all of his high school career

982
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,960
and then literally worked with Rob Daniel for one offseason

983
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,079
and that he became the starter at nickel. So he

984
00:45:45,159 --> 00:45:47,920
was the best coverage free safety, our best coverage safety,

985
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,079
and he was better than all the guys that you

986
00:45:50,199 --> 00:45:54,440
had in that nickel room. Okay, So I mean like that,

987
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,239
it tells you kind of his his trajectory and his

988
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,000
potential there.

989
00:45:58,079 --> 00:45:59,559
Speaker 4: But I still think he's a free safety. He's gonna

990
00:45:59,559 --> 00:45:59,880
ball out it.

991
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 3: For safety, you may want to add more depth there,

992
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,599
especially if Jonathan Iveay gets back, if Tavian Beasley's you know,

993
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,119
getting better, you know, I.

994
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 6: Don't know, but yeah, yeah, we'll.

995
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:15,679
Speaker 3: See kind how that plays out. But that's the defensive weakness. Offensively,

996
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:21,559
what are our weaknesses? I would say, like, you know,

997
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,599
you're still having the scheme guys open maybe a little

998
00:46:24,599 --> 00:46:27,119
bit in the past game. You'd like to see more

999
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:29,559
dominant one on one victories, but like we still got

1000
00:46:29,559 --> 00:46:32,480
guys that can win one on want like Chase and Parker,

1001
00:46:32,679 --> 00:46:33,079
and I.

1002
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,599
Speaker 4: Still think Cody can win in space.

1003
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 3: LJ needs to be healthy, and we may I think

1004
00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:42,920
Preston needs to step up Joe Vesen needs to step up.

1005
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 4: Logan pay needs to step like.

1006
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 3: We gotta find some sort of a duo outside of Bear.

1007
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,199
Speaker 4: I think to enter into.

1008
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,199
Speaker 3: Like a run in the College Football Playoff and a

1009
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,800
win in a Big twelve championship, and even to get

1010
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,840
maybe to the Big twel Championship can be why you

1011
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,960
get to the Big twelve Championship game without having a

1012
00:47:02,119 --> 00:47:07,480
true RB two with what we have on the schedule left, Yeah,

1013
00:47:07,519 --> 00:47:08,800
maybe it's gonna be closed.

1014
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,199
Speaker 6: The possibility gonna be tough.

1015
00:47:11,039 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 3: The Red Raiders are tough man, TCU's tough. Cincinnati is

1016
00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:18,159
a good team, and UCF is a better team than advertise.

1017
00:47:18,519 --> 00:47:20,639
Speaker 5: Well, I'll go this. I'll go what I I told

1018
00:47:20,679 --> 00:47:23,960
Bred and Bird agrees with me. I'll stand by this.

1019
00:47:24,039 --> 00:47:26,360
I think you get TCU at home. I think you

1020
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,320
get UCFO home because those are homes. Probably will be

1021
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,519
nine games under Lavelle. I think you'll get those at home.

1022
00:47:31,559 --> 00:47:34,559
You gotta protect home field, right. I say you needed

1023
00:47:34,599 --> 00:47:36,559
to get two out of three out of Iowa, stay,

1024
00:47:36,639 --> 00:47:39,199
Texas Tech and Cincinnati. You get two out of three

1025
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,400
of those. Ben, you beat TCU, you beat UCF, You're

1026
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,280
in and the title game. Boy, the numbers fall, you

1027
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,239
are whether you lose to the Texas Tech, whether you

1028
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,199
lose to Cincinnati, you're in the title game because of that,

1029
00:47:50,199 --> 00:47:51,679
because you would only have one loss and you'd be

1030
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,880
the number two team. So I look at it like,

1031
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,320
because you'd own the tie break either over Cincinnati if

1032
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:57,880
that regard, if you were to lose the Red Raiders.

1033
00:47:58,159 --> 00:48:01,199
So you gotta either beat Texas Tech and or Cincinnati

1034
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,599
to book that victory and the other two games not easy,

1035
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,239
but I think you get those because those are at

1036
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,079
home and out on the road.

1037
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like we had a good team last year, Are

1038
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,199
we marginally better than that team from a year ago?

1039
00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 4: Yes?

1040
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, which is awesome. I mean I didn't

1041
00:48:16,519 --> 00:48:17,000
expect that.

1042
00:48:17,039 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 4: I didn't.

1043
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,679
Speaker 6: So if you punch the mount, you can punch right back.

1044
00:48:19,679 --> 00:48:21,480
It's not like you get a knockdown blow.

1045
00:48:21,559 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 3: Are we like like once after marginal like moderately better,

1046
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,960
Like where we're a top five team. I don't know.

1047
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,039
I'm not there yet. I'm not there that the top

1048
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:36,079
five team, but like I think we're a top ten team.

1049
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,599
I think we're to Yeah, Like I think you're going

1050
00:48:39,679 --> 00:48:41,519
head to head against Miami, I think you can win

1051
00:48:41,599 --> 00:48:43,599
that game. I agree with you go blow for blow

1052
00:48:43,639 --> 00:48:45,440
with like a Miami. I think you can go blow

1053
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,320
for like a Vanderbilt. I think you go blow to

1054
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,440
blow with a blow for blow with with some of

1055
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,840
these teams that are kind of like right there seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen,

1056
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,400
like you're right there, and then you have like that

1057
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,079
upper echelon that's like kN b au beat or j Alabama.

1058
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 6: I think I think it could be George. I don't

1059
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:04,360
think it could be Alabama.

1060
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what I mean, like maybe right like,

1061
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,199
I think they can beat Organ.

1062
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,559
Speaker 5: I think Orgon can be I think Organ can be

1063
00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:12,480
had with this team this year that they have.

1064
00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:15,079
Speaker 4: I think they can Ohio States. Problem is their defense

1065
00:49:15,199 --> 00:49:15,800
is unreal.

1066
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 3: The offense is, but it's not.

1067
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 6: They're playing.

1068
00:49:22,679 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 4: Let's say this can be what you beat Notre Dame.

1069
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,599
I think so. I think that they match up wel

1070
00:49:27,639 --> 00:49:28,039
versus No.

1071
00:49:28,159 --> 00:49:30,199
Speaker 1: If you can slow down Jeremiah Love, I think you

1072
00:49:30,199 --> 00:49:32,679
can win that, I think. But that is a match

1073
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,280
look can can b Why you beat Notre Dame?

1074
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 4: Do you think? Martin Kelly, I know you're a you're

1075
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:38,320
a You're a.

1076
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 7: I'm a not Dame listen to I'm I'm gonna I'm

1077
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,079
gonna dive this into half and half. Okay, I'll be objective. Okay,

1078
00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:50,239
b y U's defense is good enough to compete against

1079
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,960
Notre dames offense. I agree the past defense that b

1080
00:49:53,159 --> 00:49:56,599
yu has would be able to contain Notre Dames offense.

1081
00:49:56,639 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: C J.

1082
00:49:57,039 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 7: Carr is phenomenal with the passing He's gotten better at

1083
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:00,679
every single week.

1084
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:01,559
Speaker 4: I believe that.

1085
00:50:01,679 --> 00:50:05,119
Speaker 7: But there's no way BYU's run defense because stop Jeremiah

1086
00:50:05,159 --> 00:50:12,280
Smith and Jardim Price. I believe love would run all

1087
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,519
over Byu. Could you guys contain car and put them

1088
00:50:15,519 --> 00:50:17,679
in a situation where Notre Dame has to rely on

1089
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,000
a lot of run to get their points. Absolutely, Okay,

1090
00:50:21,039 --> 00:50:23,400
Miami did that and Texas A and m did that,

1091
00:50:23,519 --> 00:50:25,920
and that's why we were zero win two after two weeks.

1092
00:50:26,039 --> 00:50:30,239
But to flip that, could Notre Dame's defense create pressure

1093
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,840
and chaos to BYU's offense, I believe.

1094
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:33,599
Speaker 4: So we have.

1095
00:50:33,559 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 7: Faced out Yeah, we have faced some really good players

1096
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,400
this year. Plus we faced BYU who had a mobile quarterback.

1097
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,199
Mason is not bear Backmarert. But Mason has the ability

1098
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,000
to escape the pocket and they played an option option

1099
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:47,239
offense that week.

1100
00:50:47,159 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 4: And we faced Perdue.

1101
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,079
Speaker 7: They're not a really great team, but they also had

1102
00:50:51,079 --> 00:50:53,960
an option style offense. We faced those two teams and

1103
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,480
we contained them pretty well. I do believe it would

1104
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,519
be a close game. I'm not gonna say Notre Dame

1105
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:01,199
wins by two touchdowns or three touchdowns, but I'll take

1106
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,199
Notre Dame in like a thirty four to thirty one

1107
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,800
or thirty one to like twenty seven type game I

1108
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,360
will take. I will still take Notre Dame, but it

1109
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,800
is it is a fifty to fifty game in my eyes.

1110
00:51:11,039 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of what I'm doing. Match up very well,

1111
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,280
and I actually think Notre Dame is a top ten

1112
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,480
team as well, like they've had that's what that says.

1113
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 4: Difficult schedule and that's what I mean.

1114
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:26,519
Speaker 3: That's like, okay BYU and in Notre Dame historically, right,

1115
00:51:26,679 --> 00:51:30,400
sometimes they met seven seven family in the modern era,

1116
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,159
we'll just can take it like, you know, well, it's

1117
00:51:33,159 --> 00:51:35,199
actually I think it's a little bit more than that.

1118
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,360
It's actually a little bit more than I think they've

1119
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,679
they nine, So two and seven all time for ninety

1120
00:51:42,679 --> 00:51:46,079
two makes sense. So but boy was in a little

1121
00:51:46,119 --> 00:51:47,239
bit in a rebuild mode.

1122
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 4: In ninety two and ninety three they lost.

1123
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:53,119
Speaker 3: So from ninety four to present, they're they're two and five,

1124
00:51:53,199 --> 00:51:55,679
I believe. So ninety four Bay, you got to win

1125
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,480
twenty one fourteen. I'll just give you a little bit

1126
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:02,119
of history in the modern era. Fourteen in South Bend, Okay,

1127
00:52:03,599 --> 00:52:07,440
two thousand and three BYU and Notre Dame. Notre Dame

1128
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,079
got to win in South Bend thirty three to fourteen. Okay,

1129
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,920
two thousand and four, b why you got to win

1130
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:17,119
at home twenty to seventeen. So one score game two

1131
00:52:17,159 --> 00:52:19,639
thousand and five forty nine to twenty three. Notre Dame

1132
00:52:19,679 --> 00:52:22,400
got the win in South Bend, so pretty dominant victory.

1133
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 4: That was one of the best Notre Dame teams. They

1134
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,039
had Brady.

1135
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 3: Quinn, Jes Maurice stoveall really good offense. Twenty twelve, that

1136
00:52:34,599 --> 00:52:38,960
was the That was the national championship. Notre Dame team

1137
00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:41,719
yet lost Alabama was a blowout they got they got

1138
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,840
beat up at the Man Ti Tao by you lost

1139
00:52:46,199 --> 00:52:50,000
seventeen to fourteen on the road. That was an eight

1140
00:52:50,039 --> 00:52:53,320
win BAU football team. Nelson too, that was Riley Nelson

1141
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,159
that year and we missed like we missed like point

1142
00:52:58,159 --> 00:52:59,039
blank field.

1143
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 4: Goal that game too because being an injured h.

1144
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 3: Field goal kicker twenty thirteen, twenty three to thirteen, b Way,

1145
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,480
you lost in South Bend, So you know, ten points score.

1146
00:53:08,639 --> 00:53:09,679
Speaker 4: Like, all these games.

1147
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 3: Are competitive, even the one in Vegas twenty eight to

1148
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:12,840
twenty It was a competitive game.

1149
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:13,159
Speaker 4: B Way.

1150
00:53:13,159 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 3: You was driving on the last yea and Notre Dame

1151
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,880
stopped and they stopped them on like the thirty five

1152
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,320
they had to score a touchdown twenty eight twenty.

1153
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,519
Speaker 4: So these have all been competitive games.

1154
00:53:22,519 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 3: So BYU is in many ways same similar in physicality

1155
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,280
and talent to that of Notre Dame in many ways,

1156
00:53:33,519 --> 00:53:36,760
and they've always been competitive. So I think it would

1157
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,239
be a kind of a duked out kind of slug

1158
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,199
fest between these two. And I put I would put

1159
00:53:41,199 --> 00:53:43,360
by I like, would Bay you be a favorite.

1160
00:53:43,039 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 4: Going into that game?

1161
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 8: No?

1162
00:53:44,639 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 3: Six and a half, I know, but it would probably

1163
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,559
be a one score score game.

1164
00:53:48,599 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 6: Absolutely, I'm taking away And they.

1165
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 3: Could go either way, especially if BYU brings complimentary football,

1166
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,599
finds a way to create turnovers on special teams.

1167
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 4: Right Notre Dames.

1168
00:53:57,519 --> 00:54:00,039
Speaker 3: Uh, this is the difference here Notre Dames offense is

1169
00:54:00,119 --> 00:54:03,039
very good. They're right fourth per sp plus their defense

1170
00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:05,840
is twenty second. But check us out special teams fifty first.

1171
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,880
Bay is gonna have a competitive vantage in every single

1172
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,559
game do to special teams. This is something that Vegas

1173
00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:14,559
doesn't account for. This is something that no other really

1174
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,119
prognosticator will account for. Right you know what I mean,

1175
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,360
Like no one's We always heavily weigh our metrics to

1176
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,400
offensive defense, never to the special teams unit. And that's

1177
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,199
the difference with BYU. I think the last few seasons

1178
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,039
under k POP, I really believe it. How many turnoves

1179
00:54:33,039 --> 00:54:36,159
have created, how many touchdowns have we created through special teams?

1180
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,800
It's an absurd number. I should probably put those data

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Speaker 4: BYU as far as the true ranking?

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