Speaker 1: Bang bang, Southern Fried Gang.
Speaker 2: All right, what is our sports fans?
Speaker 3: We are back and we are here for an episode
Speaker 3: of Fired Up being joined tonight. As as per usual,
Speaker 3: his normal co host duties is the man down the bottom,
Speaker 3: Southern Fried gentleman, mister J. D.
Speaker 2: Wide And we got we we got a new guy.
Speaker 3: We break it intnight, mister sir from Sideline Sports, Big
Speaker 3: Big Late Atlanta Sports content creator. Welcome to the show, Samir.
Speaker 3: How we feel in this this evening, My friend, I'm
Speaker 3: great man. There's always something to talk about in the
Speaker 3: sports world, plenty of stuff stuff to talk about, and uh,
Speaker 3: you know, I will mention I am rather excited for
Speaker 3: for UFC jiu Jitsu. As people who don't know and
Speaker 3: aren't the combat sports fan. Bella Mere won her her
Speaker 3: debut her daddy, Frank Mere, the former three time heavyweight champion,
Speaker 3: and uh she's looking to go into the Olympics. But
Speaker 3: that's not the top story of the day. As always,
Speaker 3: the NFL dominates the the airways and and and it
Speaker 3: came out today that former Baltimore Ravens kicker Justin Tucker
Speaker 3: has just been smacked with a ten game suspension, and uh,
Speaker 3: you know, they're gonna they're gonna hit him with the
Speaker 3: ten weeks personal conduct and we all know what the
Speaker 3: story is about. He's uh, it's basically a another version
Speaker 3: of of mister Deshaun Watson with the finding those little
Speaker 3: extra spose he probably shouldn't be in. But before we
Speaker 3: get to that, JD, you're faithful is not happy with us.
Speaker 3: We were a few minutes like getting started today.
Speaker 4: We were, and hey, ladies and gentlemen, listen, I think
Speaker 4: the element of surprise.
Speaker 1: Is vastly underrated. Guys. If you.
Speaker 4: Take out the element of surprise, you lose most of
Speaker 4: your advantage. It's a very simplistic coaching philosophy that I
Speaker 4: learned a long time ago. Sometimes it's good to do
Speaker 4: things when they don't expect them to be done. Or
Speaker 4: you know what, sometimes I'm gonna do exactly what you
Speaker 4: expect me to do, which is show up when we
Speaker 4: tell you we're gonna show up. So I am the
Speaker 4: Southern Fried gentleman. We've got some mir we've got great
Speaker 4: sports talk this evening. We've already started it off with
Speaker 4: Justin Tucker.
Speaker 3: My goodness, I guess uh, let's start over to me,
Speaker 3: what are your thoughts on this man, Like, obviously we
Speaker 3: knew once he was cut by the Ravens last year
Speaker 3: that he was gonna he was gonna be in some
Speaker 3: some stuff. He still has to go through his legal troubles.
Speaker 3: But was this kind of part for the course ten
Speaker 3: games suspension for Justin Tucker Samir.
Speaker 5: Oh, Yeah, my opinion, it was, and in my opinion
Speaker 5: has kind of been the precedent for how the league
Speaker 5: has handled these type of cases. Usually, anything that negatively
Speaker 5: affects the public image of the Shield, whether it be
Speaker 5: on or off the field, or can't potentially impact their
Speaker 5: bottom line, they will not hesitate to act on it,
Speaker 5: even in a case where a player may have not
Speaker 5: been criminally charged. For example, in this case Justin Sucker,
Speaker 5: Deshaun Watson had not been criminally charged in the past
Speaker 5: and still received the lengthy suspension. Ray Rice, I think
Speaker 5: the chargers in that case were dropped but and he
Speaker 5: initially received a slap on the risk, but after that
Speaker 5: video was released, he was ultimately suspended indefinitely and didn't
Speaker 5: play it down in the NFL again. However, I don't
Speaker 5: like the fact that it will take into effect in
Speaker 5: late August or regardless of whether he is on a
Speaker 5: team or not, which in my opinion, if he's not
Speaker 5: in a team, the games that he would end up
Speaker 5: missing should not count toward that suspension. J D.
Speaker 3: Your thoughts, mister.
Speaker 4: Tucker, y'all, I can't believe this was all going on
Speaker 4: at the same time that the whole of Shawn Watson
Speaker 4: stuff was going on, like they were essentially happening almost
Speaker 4: per the timeline, like right there together. And y'all, if
Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson, if his career hadn't been derailed by injury,
Speaker 4: the ACL the achilles, all this stuff, plus the off
Speaker 4: field issues, we're talking about him being maybe a top
Speaker 4: ten quarterback in the NFL right now.
Speaker 1: He was on the way up. We're talking about it, Jude, he.
Speaker 3: Was on the way up, but he was He's already
Speaker 3: sustained a couple of injuries at that point.
Speaker 4: Don too, right, Well, I just mean think back to
Speaker 4: Houston Texans leading the Chiefs twenty four to seven in
Speaker 4: the first round of the playoffs back I don't know
Speaker 4: four years ago or so, maybe I don't.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the exact time.
Speaker 5: It was a twenty nineteen I think, thank.
Speaker 1: You smear exactly That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: All of this stuff leads to great conversation for all
Speaker 4: of you people to listen to Cain Wrestling. Steven, appreciate
Speaker 4: you having me here. South Forward a Tribune. Thank you
Speaker 4: for having me here.
Speaker 1: Sameir.
Speaker 4: I love the hat man, love the hat. I'm so
Speaker 4: happy to have you here. But as I was saying,
Speaker 4: I just can't believe it was happening. At the same time,
Speaker 4: a lot of people are gonna say they came down
Speaker 4: harder on Deshaun Watson over Justin Tucker. I can already
Speaker 4: see that narrative being written in my mind.
Speaker 1: It's not my opinion these things like NFL players, bro
Speaker 1: be better. You want to know who else needs to
Speaker 1: be a better fans?
Speaker 4: That's the topic coming up later on the show, isn't it, Stephen,
Speaker 4: but just be better?
Speaker 3: But here's the like it's something mean Ben talk about
Speaker 3: all the time. Right listen, you're you're an athlete, no
Speaker 3: get you get some of the gets access to some
Speaker 3: of these ladies that not all all of us can't
Speaker 3: get access to it.
Speaker 2: Let's be honest.
Speaker 3: But when you look at who are the best athletes
Speaker 3: in the world, what are they?
Speaker 2: What's the common denominator.
Speaker 3: They're married, they have a stable family life, they have kids.
Speaker 3: They they set the example because of that. Oh, he
Speaker 3: absolutely was a proven diddler. King, He's a proven diddler.
Speaker 3: He's not a diddy diddler, but he's a diddler.
Speaker 5: No, it's not proven. He hasn't been charged yet, but
Speaker 5: they are I think sixteen different accusations going back to
Speaker 5: twenty twelve, so when he first came to the league.
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously nothing to the along the lines of
Speaker 3: how many people accused of Sean Watson, but he's not proven.
Speaker 3: But it's they wouldn't have suspended them unless that they
Speaker 3: felt that that there there was some vote politically to
Speaker 3: at least one of one of the sixteen claims that
Speaker 3: that that's why why more than likely was suspended.
Speaker 5: But yeah, but I know it was a different time then.
Speaker 5: I wanted to bring up that even though Ben Roethlisberger
Speaker 5: had a few accusations back in the day, he was
Speaker 5: only suspended I believe for was it five or six games,
Speaker 5: So he had accusations that at the time seemed a
Speaker 5: little more credible, but was suspended for a lesser or
Speaker 5: didn't or was suspended for a lesser amount of time.
Speaker 5: Accusations are not proof, Ravens are spyless and one thing
Speaker 5: that I wanted to get into. So they released Justin Sucker.
Speaker 3: But here was in the middle of a nasty slump,
Speaker 3: was he not?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean my opinion, I think that if he
Speaker 5: was kicking like Justin Sucker this past season, he'd still
Speaker 5: be there because remember now they drafted Mike Green, who
Speaker 5: had not one, but two sexual assault accusations, and I
Speaker 5: think it was part of the reason on why he
Speaker 5: had to transfer from Virginia to Marshall and why. And
Speaker 5: he was actually a first a potential first round talent.
Speaker 5: I know, he was one of the guys the Falcons
Speaker 5: are looking at at fifteen, so he was high on
Speaker 5: a lot of teams. Boards. He put on a show
Speaker 5: at the Senior Ball, and then the accusations came and
Speaker 5: the ended falling to Baltimore fifty six. So I mean
Speaker 5: a large I mean, for the most part, I believe
Speaker 5: that he was cut due to his performance and not
Speaker 5: because the accusations, because you can't cut Justin Sucker for that,
Speaker 5: But then you go around and draft Mike Green.
Speaker 3: I'm with you, Samara, I think it was it was
Speaker 3: probably the fact that it was looming and that he
Speaker 3: was struggling to the effect he was because remember about
Speaker 3: about a year and a half ago, Justin Tucker was
Speaker 3: the best kicker in football. I mean no, I mean now,
Speaker 3: I mean, if you look around the league, you would
Speaker 3: have to probably say, you know, we're gonna go in
Speaker 3: my backyard here, But Jake Elliott at this point in time,
Speaker 3: you could also make the argument that the kid from
Speaker 3: Dallas too, he's got a freaking leg on him. That
Speaker 3: that that that kid too. So you know, you have
Speaker 3: a couple of guys around here. So he's he's in,
Speaker 3: he's in a situation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think I think it tells you the
Speaker 5: Ravens knew this was coming. I mean, it wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 5: I mean because again it just it's just backwards, are
Speaker 5: not backwards. But it wouldn't make complete sense for you
Speaker 5: to release Justin Sucker because of the accusations but then
Speaker 5: spend a second round peak on a guy who had
Speaker 5: multiple accusations as well. So I think this was more
Speaker 5: performance based when talking about him being cut. But well,
Speaker 5: number one, number two. I also think the league or
Speaker 5: I also think that the Ravens knew that the league
Speaker 5: was going.
Speaker 3: To Yeah, they were going to have them, and they
Speaker 3: wanted to make sure they at least had had a
Speaker 3: calluity kicker on the roster. But I'm gonna say this, like, listen,
Speaker 3: accusation whatever I think the the Eagles front office gets
Speaker 3: on right, If you're accused of any type of you know, essay,
Speaker 3: you know, any any type of wrongful content towards a woman,
Speaker 3: you shouldn't even be looked at in this league.
Speaker 2: You shouldn't.
Speaker 3: I mean, I get it, we all deserve second changes.
Speaker 3: But there's some things. You it's a character thing that
Speaker 3: there's there's there's certain things about that that I just
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, it's one of those things you
Speaker 3: you can't you can't do anything to kind of undo
Speaker 3: that wrong.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Stephen, you say that, it's one of those things.
Speaker 1: And know what we're saying.
Speaker 4: Is is character is one of the dirty Sea words.
Speaker 1: On Southern Fried Sports.
Speaker 4: We continue to add to this list chemistry, culture, commitment, camaraderie, coaching, cash, complacency,
Speaker 4: confidence that they can all be dirty Sea words. And
Speaker 4: that is another one though that we add right here
Speaker 4: from Stephen on Southern Fried Sports.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but and I think the hard part about the
Speaker 5: whole thing is is and look, I mean, I think
Speaker 5: it's understandable to have or to if you're a front
Speaker 5: office or if you're a general manager that if you
Speaker 5: have accusations of essay or wrongful behavior towards the opposite gender,
Speaker 5: you know, that's a no brainer or that's a no go.
Speaker 5: But I mean there are cases where you have play
Speaker 5: or people that in the past, for example of Sean
Speaker 5: Oakman or of Brian Banks, who get wrongfully accused. And
Speaker 5: I'm not saying this is the case, but I want.
Speaker 3: To I won't say something to that fact, my friend, anyone,
Speaker 3: any woman who goes down and wrongfully accuse it, I
Speaker 3: think the absolute hammer should fall down, just like it
Speaker 3: does for the for the guilty parties that do actually
Speaker 3: evolve get themselves involved in in uh essay situation. So
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just put that out there. It doesn't happen
Speaker 3: enough in this world. There's no repercussions for for the
Speaker 3: these the the these women who prey on whoever it is,
Speaker 3: whether whether it be you know, you know they're they're
Speaker 3: ex there upset about or these people who go around
Speaker 3: and try to find ways to to him up professional athletes,
Speaker 3: like what we've seen what looks like what's happening to
Speaker 3: to uh, you know, Shannon Sharp. So it's like, listen,
Speaker 3: you have to be real careful, like because it is
Speaker 3: a it is a dicey situation.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, go ah, brother, I just had a name
Speaker 4: as well, Samir Braves fan here. I have been asking
Speaker 4: for them to sign Trevor Bauer for forever.
Speaker 2: My god, You're not the only one. I'm banging on
Speaker 2: that drum. I need to relieve in my bullpen.
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 1: He was completely exonerated.
Speaker 3: This this is, this is a major league thing. I'll
Speaker 3: let you get in a second some here. This is
Speaker 3: this is just a major league thing. When they when
Speaker 3: they're wrong about something and they've already took a stance
Speaker 3: on it, they will stick their head in the freaking
Speaker 3: sand like nothing's going on. The fact that what just
Speaker 3: happened to Pete Rose is freaking disgusting.
Speaker 2: What you did. The Trevor Bauer is freaking disgusting.
Speaker 3: He's sitting there playing in Japan, he's playing in Mexico,
Speaker 3: he's playing anywhere he can play, still being a dog,
Speaker 3: still having his name name run down and being ignored
Speaker 3: by by Major League Baseball like he's some type of disease.
Speaker 2: Go ahead some here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was going to say, yeah, I have one of
Speaker 5: the braves to take a look at him for a while,
Speaker 5: but he's he's basically all but blackball for major League Baseball.
Speaker 5: It's yeah, if are the braves I would have had,
Speaker 5: I would have had taken a look at him. But
Speaker 5: it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like, why we've seen people come back from I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure Stephen might have a clip of someone today,
Speaker 4: Michael Vick. It's his birthday. Sorry to segue that, but
Speaker 4: you know what, Steven, that's what we do.
Speaker 3: Mister v seven got to show him love regardless.
Speaker 1: Listen, but his situation, right, but hey, let me let
Speaker 1: me just tie it off.
Speaker 2: Let me tie it off.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh absolutely. But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So if Trevor Bower can't make it back from false
Speaker 4: accusations and this person can make it back from real
Speaker 4: accusations like stuff that he did.
Speaker 1: Time's where where are we? What did he say? O?
Speaker 5: I think you're comparing apples to oranges, because these are
Speaker 5: two different leagues we're talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, at the same time, it's all
Speaker 1: about people. It's all about like.
Speaker 3: We already know, the NFL will shove anything under the
Speaker 3: rug as long as they can want to start seeping out,
Speaker 3: then they go with trust things. I've addressed the situation
Speaker 3: that's going on with the NFL right now that no
Speaker 3: one's talking about on the last two shows that I did.
Speaker 4: It's disgusting right well, and to me, I love that
Speaker 4: comment because it brings this question to my mind.
Speaker 1: Listen, this is what we do. I love it so
Speaker 1: in your opinion, though, why would they.
Speaker 3: Batteries don't run out, be digits never.
Speaker 4: Why why would they be treated differently? I mean, at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, we're talking about accusations made
Speaker 4: against someone. I mean, yes, some of them may be.
Speaker 4: I mean, like I said, they're all different. We've got
Speaker 4: Ray Rice, Deshaun Watson, Justin Tucker, all of these dudes,
Speaker 4: Trevor Bauer. They're all tied up in like sexual stuff
Speaker 4: and some of them.
Speaker 1: It was to make it back.
Speaker 2: It was domestic a soul. It wasn't yet.
Speaker 3: You don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I mean, though, What's going on.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, listen, listen. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you guys are prepared for this or not, but.
Speaker 3: I'm going to bring it up.
Speaker 6: Anyways if people who don't know, is what's going on
Speaker 6: with the NFL that no one's talking about right now
Speaker 6: because everyone's scared of losing credentials and getting blackballed and
Speaker 6: stuff like this.
Speaker 3: The NFL was found to absolutely have colluded against the.
Speaker 2: NFL players by an arbitrator.
Speaker 3: The sect that three days answered to Sean Watson signed
Speaker 3: that ridiculous contract to.
Speaker 2: Not sign veterans to.
Speaker 3: Guaranteed contracts, which is freaking disgusting. You call the shield,
Speaker 3: you called all this other stuff, but you're colluding against
Speaker 3: your your your athletes. You only let it have medical
Speaker 3: insurance five years after they retire. You do all this
Speaker 3: other stuff that you know. I've been sinninger saying for
Speaker 3: a while that the guys should be getting guaranteed contract right,
Speaker 3: so you're gonna collude against players to not get it.
Speaker 3: And now we know why what happened with Lamar Jackson
Speaker 3: was happening because remember there were there was dicey there,
Speaker 3: like he didn't know if he was gonna stay in
Speaker 3: Baltimore or whatever. And it's really simple, now, ain't it,
Speaker 3: Because that he wasn't gonna get the guaranteed money if
Speaker 3: he hit the open market. It's really obvious now so
Speaker 3: and even more so, let's even double back even for it.
Speaker 3: It's absolutely clear now that the league, if they colluded
Speaker 3: to do this, they colluded they to blackball Colin Kaepernick too.
Speaker 3: I'm not a cat fan. I'm not by any shape
Speaker 3: of the means. I feel that he should express himself
Speaker 3: and however he wants. I do feel there's a time
Speaker 3: and place for that. I don't feel like it should
Speaker 3: be on a football field. But they absolutely cluded to
Speaker 3: keep him out because he's better than a court of
Speaker 3: the guys that that that are on rosters. Now that
Speaker 3: the claiming either starting quarterback, second, second quarterback, or third
Speaker 3: go ahead. J No.
Speaker 4: I was gonna tell Samir actually to follow you right
Speaker 4: here because guess what you just did again. You mentioned
Speaker 4: a perfect segue about leagues and stuff like that. So Samir,
Speaker 4: get your thoughts in right here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, Steve, I want to start off by saying
Speaker 5: I do agree with the Lamar Jackson thing. We kind
Speaker 5: of knew it at the time. It was probably the
Speaker 5: worst kept secret at the time, because you can't convince
Speaker 5: me that you know, hey, Lamar Jackson's right here and
Speaker 5: no one wants him, like, no one's even gonna try
Speaker 5: to make a run for him, like come on now. Like,
Speaker 5: So I think that was the worst kept secret that
Speaker 5: there was definitely collusion there, And there's definitely been collusion
Speaker 5: in other cases such as as you mentioned, h Colin
Speaker 5: Kaepernick and who and whom else. It's very obvious, very
Speaker 5: obvious as a matter of fact, as a matter of fact,
Speaker 5: it was as a matter of fact, they took it
Speaker 5: to court and they and they reached a settlement. So
Speaker 5: take what you want with that information.
Speaker 3: Which is not even a quarter of what he should
Speaker 3: have got either way. But again that's another argument for
Speaker 3: another day.
Speaker 4: Well, and and like I said, I wanted to follow
Speaker 4: Samir on that because I think all of this will
Speaker 4: tie together perfectly in a knot, as you like to do, Steven.
Speaker 4: We do navy knots around here. You know anything about
Speaker 4: tieing navy knots. But so we're talking about the NFL
Speaker 4: and guaranteed contracts and quarterbacks and all of this stuff.
Speaker 1: Some of the NFL owners want to have.
Speaker 4: A separate part of the salary cap for quarterbacks because
Speaker 4: there's this whole stat if you make so much money
Speaker 4: as an NFL quarterback, you are less likely to win
Speaker 4: a Super Bowl. The only two who have broken the
Speaker 4: stat which lays at about thirteen percent, If a quarterback
Speaker 4: makes more than thirteen percent of their team's salary cap,
Speaker 4: they've only won the Super Bowl twice, Steve Young, Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4: That is why they all want to draft rookie quarterbacks
Speaker 4: and have a solid team around them. And so there
Speaker 4: is definitely another dirty seaward added to the dirty sea
Speaker 4: words collusion amongst these NFL owners.
Speaker 1: There's politics involved.
Speaker 4: We just saw the rule about the tush push. They
Speaker 4: managed to have the majority and keep that rule in place.
Speaker 4: I would look, hey, Steven, that's another topic for another.
Speaker 5: It wouldn't surprise me if they get rid of it
Speaker 5: next year.
Speaker 2: No, they know what they're going to do.
Speaker 3: I don't want to go down this rabbit hole bs
Speaker 3: when they're sitting there saying, you know, player safety, you know,
Speaker 3: pace a game, all that other nonsense. But what they're
Speaker 3: going to do next year is they're going to change
Speaker 3: the fact that an offensive player can't push another offensive
Speaker 3: player forward. So that's going to ruin other things like
Speaker 3: when you have a have a have a you know.
Speaker 2: Scrum down the field.
Speaker 3: You're trying to fight for yardage and your offensive players
Speaker 3: are not gonna be able to push forward. That's fine
Speaker 3: because we we the Eagles, have already prepared for this.
Speaker 3: But go ahead.
Speaker 1: I completely agree.
Speaker 4: I have never once mentioned player safety as the issue.
Speaker 4: And the one play that always sticks out in my
Speaker 4: mind is two thousand and five, two thousand and four,
Speaker 4: there was a you see Notre Dame game, Matt Liner
Speaker 4: got pushed by Reggie Bush into the end zone. Granted
Speaker 4: that was n C double A, but the rule was
Speaker 4: you cannot push or aid an offensive player going forward,
Speaker 4: like you.
Speaker 1: You can't help push them forward. M hm. That was
Speaker 1: the rule in the Granted, like I said, it was
Speaker 1: the n C double A, but in the back of
Speaker 1: my mind it's football. The same rule should apply in
Speaker 1: the NFL.
Speaker 4: And oh god, that's a whole different rabbit hole we
Speaker 4: could go down on a different day. Is should the
Speaker 4: rules be the same for college and NFL or MLB
Speaker 4: to the minor leagues?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, we could.
Speaker 5: We could speak.
Speaker 1: Exactly. We're not gonna do it. But my main point
Speaker 1: though is.
Speaker 4: I saw that they took a touchdown off the board
Speaker 4: because Reggie Bush pushed Matt Liner into the end zone.
Speaker 4: And that's my whole thing about it, man, Like, just
Speaker 4: just the push part. The defensive people, the defensive lineman,
Speaker 4: the linebackers. They can't get up and push against their players.
Speaker 4: We saw, yeah with the special team.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I remember years ago, it was like twenty
Speaker 5: fourteen fifteen that was that was the Panthers in the playoffs,
Speaker 5: and I think camp Chancellor leaked one of his teammates
Speaker 5: to block a field goal. Was called it back.
Speaker 2: Killed that Yeah, it special.
Speaker 3: It wasn't something that happened on a regular play, but
Speaker 3: it was it was a field goal that they wanted
Speaker 3: to I guess protect the offense in that matter.
Speaker 4: So right, Well, and then to finish my segue though here,
Speaker 4: I'll get a couple of comments in while I do it. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: let's see this into something else because I had another question.
Speaker 4: I know, I sent it to you, Steve Samir, and
Speaker 4: we might catch you off guard.
Speaker 1: Mark says, man, they need to leave the tush push alone.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: It was just me just tell me to leave it alone.
Speaker 1: Samir says, Okay, I'll leave it alone. Bro, I don't
Speaker 1: want I don't want to I don't want to smoke.
Speaker 4: But no, So to segue that, though, I was gonna
Speaker 4: tell y'all a story real quick, I'll be quick about it, Steve,
Speaker 4: But I was going to tell the story, and we
Speaker 4: just talked about collusion and owners and all this stuff.
Speaker 4: So Samir and Steven and listeners. I don't know if
Speaker 4: y'all heard this story this weekend or not. But Dale
Speaker 4: Earnhardt Jr. One of the most popular drivers ever in NASCAR.
Speaker 4: His father, of course, Dell Earnhardt, who died in a
Speaker 4: tragic accident at Daytona.
Speaker 1: But Dell Jr. He raced the career.
Speaker 4: He now owns cars, and he's one as a driver
Speaker 4: and he's one as an owner.
Speaker 1: But this past weekend it went one step further. He
Speaker 1: joined Elite territory.
Speaker 4: When you talk about Lee, Petty and Gosh, I had
Speaker 4: all the names earlier. He is one of only nine
Speaker 4: people to ever win as a crew chief, an owner
Speaker 4: and a driver.
Speaker 1: But I think it was rigged. Two of his own
Speaker 1: drivers took out the two best cars of the entire day.
Speaker 4: And Delarnhart Junior calling the race at Pocono for Connor
Speaker 4: Zelich ended up winning the race as a crew chief.
Speaker 4: And when you talk about big stories in NASCAR, there's
Speaker 4: nothing bigger than Delarnhardt Junr.
Speaker 1: As I mentioned.
Speaker 4: So I ask you, guys, could sports be scripted? And
Speaker 4: if they are, what would be the easiest one to script?
Speaker 4: What would be the hardest. We've all heard it with
Speaker 4: the Chiefs and the Flags. So guys, I want y'all's opinions.
Speaker 4: Steven or Samir? Who do you want to start with?
Speaker 1: Steven?
Speaker 2: Go first?
Speaker 4: All right, Samir, so react to my story about Delarnhart
Speaker 4: Junior and then please tell me what you think about sports, owners, players, unions.
Speaker 1: Could any of this stuff ever be scripted?
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say scripted, but I will say that the
Speaker 5: leagues know who they want to win, like they have
Speaker 5: their preferences. When they want a team to win, they
Speaker 5: will let it be known that they want that team
Speaker 5: to win. Like you look at some of the calls
Speaker 5: the Chiefs got this passed off on this past season,
Speaker 5: particularly the no call on Kyle Pitt's Week three against
Speaker 5: the Falcons. Look at the Patriots during the Brady Belichick era,
Speaker 5: the calls that went their way for years, like for
Speaker 5: two decades.
Speaker 4: Right, and sorry to interrupt you, but you keep going
Speaker 4: after this, but they cheated to the flight Yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, but well and then you think and think
Speaker 5: about the nb a golden state. You know, there are
Speaker 5: times in the playoffs where they had they had certain
Speaker 5: calls go their way, especially when they're at Oracle. So yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean, I wouldn't say it's scripted, but they have
Speaker 5: their preferences, Like they call Scott Foster the extender for
Speaker 5: a reason. Like I feel like when there's a team
Speaker 5: that they that the NBA wants to win, they're going
Speaker 5: to have Scott a guy like Scott Foster officiate that game.
Speaker 1: What was the guy that cheated Donahoe?
Speaker 5: To answer your question, I feel like the easiest sport
Speaker 5: to script is boxing because in general, because I feel
Speaker 5: like there's just so I mean, it's one of those
Speaker 5: things where it would be hard to tell, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, Like you can't really have you.
Speaker 3: Have you seen any Like I'll just say, just look
Speaker 3: at any of Jake Paul's like first handful of fights,
Speaker 3: and you can see why people say that, Yeah, you
Speaker 3: know who do they say the Tyron Woodley fight, just
Speaker 3: like you know, things of that nature. Uh, and orson
Speaker 3: Sofa Mike, the Mike Tyson fight. There's no way that
Speaker 3: wasn't a work. There was a gentleman agreement that that
Speaker 3: that that this wasn't gonna happen, and that wasn't gonna happen.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, But I'd say the hardest descript is football
Speaker 5: because again, it's just it's almost blatant that when a
Speaker 5: certain team keeps getting calls that are maybe borderline or
Speaker 5: maybe questionable, and those calls continue to.
Speaker 3: Go to right here, that that that that that has
Speaker 3: a thing. But I do think Spygate was a real thing.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So I'm gonna leave it at that.
Speaker 3: But even to your point, n b A, we've already
Speaker 3: seen it. We already seen uh.
Speaker 2: With the way that betting is right right now, I
Speaker 2: think there could.
Speaker 3: Be guys that you know, you've seen combat sports fighters, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, one of their coaches and in the UFC,
Speaker 3: and the fighter himself has has been removed right because
Speaker 3: he knew his guy was injured and he's sitting there
Speaker 3: running the book.
Speaker 2: He's betting.
Speaker 3: So yeah, we we we see things along along those lines.
Speaker 3: The NBA, We've already seen it with Donahue, but even
Speaker 3: more so, the NBA draft lottery is a joke, absolute joke.
Speaker 2: And it's so weird how how sometimes a team will
Speaker 2: trade their best player and all of a sudden, the
Speaker 2: next season they walked up with the number one what
Speaker 2: overall pick?
Speaker 3: How many times did the the Oklahoma City thunder wound
Speaker 3: up trading a big player away and then they get
Speaker 3: they win.
Speaker 2: The lottery the next season?
Speaker 3: Even even King James and you know, I've been hard
Speaker 3: on him last few weeks because you know he does
Speaker 3: have have horsemen or come out of his mouth every
Speaker 3: now and again, you know, with with his ring culture nonsense.
Speaker 3: But he even talked about it when when would have
Speaker 3: there should have been no way that that that the
Speaker 3: Mavericks had the number one overall pick. I mean you
Speaker 3: could say I'm biased. I'm a Sixers fan. I wanted
Speaker 3: the number Listen, I didn't think we were gonna end
Speaker 3: up with the number one overall pick. But tell me
Speaker 3: how the Dallas Mavericks trade away Luca Donalds and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, there they they win the draft lottery.
Speaker 3: It's that is I think that aspect of it can
Speaker 3: be can be scripted.
Speaker 2: We already talk about it with the NFL.
Speaker 3: Uh. I agree with with Samir that like they have
Speaker 3: their favorites, the teams they they preferred to to see
Speaker 3: in certain games at certain point in times of the year,
Speaker 3: and yeah, some some guys will get called I haven't.
Speaker 2: I've been an Eagles fan.
Speaker 3: I've never felt that we've ever got a single call
Speaker 3: that goes our way.
Speaker 2: Every time there's something going on.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, it typically goes against us.
Speaker 1: But right, hey, well, can I ask this question too
Speaker 1: real quick?
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that all sports are scripted, but obviously,
Speaker 4: did it not feel to you guys like the NBA
Speaker 4: had to have Oklahoma City and Indiana in the finals
Speaker 4: this year?
Speaker 5: I mean, I narrative, I disagree with that. I disagree
Speaker 5: with that because I think I think like, even with
Speaker 5: this series going seven games and given how close each
Speaker 5: of the first four games were, the ratings were down
Speaker 5: because it's unfair. But Oklahoma City, Indiana, regardless of the
Speaker 5: product on the court, it just isn't a draw to
Speaker 5: the casual fan. But if it were scripted, they would
Speaker 5: have like the Celtics, Lakers, and Celtics, Lakers, the Lakers,
Speaker 5: things like that.
Speaker 2: I'll say this much.
Speaker 3: You could tell basketball wasn't just because of how it
Speaker 3: went down this year.
Speaker 2: They didn't.
Speaker 3: They didn't care enough to to put to put the the.
Speaker 2: Larry O'Brien trophy on the floor.
Speaker 3: They digitally put it in right you go, and look
Speaker 3: at you know, me and Ben talked about it last night.
Speaker 2: Look at the merch that just came.
Speaker 3: Out for for for the Oklahoma City Thunder. It looks
Speaker 3: like it it came off a five dollars press or
Speaker 3: office in somebody's basement. They should be absolutely ashamed of
Speaker 3: themselves the way that merch looks. How hard is it
Speaker 3: to you know, put an orange and blue splash on
Speaker 3: a helmet, and put a helmet on a hat, and
Speaker 3: and and put up put a championship logo for Oklahoma
Speaker 3: City Thunder. What they put on them, gentleman, Anthony game
Speaker 3: looked like the stuff they sent overseas for the for
Speaker 3: the losing team.
Speaker 2: It was. It was a travesty to see that. It
Speaker 2: was Sickney.
Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. Hey, listen to Mark over here.
Speaker 1: He's a Sixers fan.
Speaker 3: And he's a Philly fan in general, but yeah, we.
Speaker 4: Have screwed over the whole thing with the lottery. And
Speaker 4: this is my take on it.
Speaker 1: I can't believe they stopped showing the freaking lottery balls
Speaker 1: the results.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh no, tell me about it.
Speaker 1: Show me, like, no, I don't. I don't believe.
Speaker 4: Like they showed the lottery for South Carolina Education lottery,
Speaker 4: they make it a big pick.
Speaker 1: Guess what you see.
Speaker 4: The lottery walls come down with the numbers because guess
Speaker 4: what other than.
Speaker 1: That, I don't believe you. I have no reason to
Speaker 1: believe you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been seeing this, like with the NBA lottery,
Speaker 5: the one year's time for Anthony Edwards, the hometown product
Speaker 5: to come home, and we had a bottom three record
Speaker 5: in the NBA that year. We end up with like
Speaker 5: the sixth overall pick. But I think like the worst
Speaker 5: draft in recent memory. We were thirty five, thirty six
Speaker 5: win team that year we won the lottery.
Speaker 4: Mark Yeah, and well and then yeah to the whole
Speaker 4: other point though, of the lottery, like uh, Steven mentioned
Speaker 4: him Intego Luca Dontets traded guess what Dallas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, do y'all remember that whole.
Speaker 4: Nixt trade, the one that was rejected by the NBA
Speaker 4: when they owned the Pelicans, Chris Paul and all that
Speaker 4: stuff to the Lakers. No, they couldn't do it because
Speaker 4: that would have messed up what the NBA wanted.
Speaker 1: There's some behind the scene that we can't see.
Speaker 3: Sorry, we do not.
Speaker 1: Year.
Speaker 3: There's no riots of Philadelphia when championships happen. We just
Speaker 3: celebrate just enthusiastically as we support our team.
Speaker 4: Bro y'all are a bit over enthusiastic, if I must
Speaker 4: say so myself.
Speaker 3: Like y'all don't know what real passions about.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4: Come down here to WILLIAMS. Brice Stadium on a Saturday
Speaker 4: with me. Well, I'll show you passions.
Speaker 1: What's that again, Caro game Cocks SEC based SEC football, Baby.
Speaker 2: Okay, I know we jumped.
Speaker 3: We jumped into the n b A A little hard here,
Speaker 3: real fast with with the curve ball, but real quick
Speaker 3: spin back to the to the NFL for first for
Speaker 3: a second. Then we'll head back to the n b
Speaker 3: A because I want to get your guys thoughts on
Speaker 3: Cincinnati is staying in Cincinnati. There was rumors that they
Speaker 3: were gonna leave pay Court Stadium, but guess what, it's
Speaker 3: staying there. In Cincinnati, they're gonna, they're they're gonna put
Speaker 3: some money into it, They're gonna, they're gonna have some fun.
Speaker 3: I heard there was rumors that that they that they
Speaker 3: didn't get something something done before August, that that that
Speaker 3: the owners were gonna start start shopping around to see
Speaker 3: what what other cities wanted a team. Now I'm happy
Speaker 3: for Cincinnati and and things of that nature. I want
Speaker 3: to segue this into another topic too, What state city
Speaker 3: should have an NFL team that doesn't right now?
Speaker 5: San Diego never should have lost the Chargers.
Speaker 3: I don't wanna hear it. I don't want to hear
Speaker 3: anywhere in l A. All right, listen, I love San Diego,
Speaker 3: I love Oakland, all all all that, all that set aside.
Speaker 3: They you have the biggest state in your in and
Speaker 3: for the longest time, they have had the most teams.
Speaker 3: Like I want to see I want to see Utah,
Speaker 3: I want to see North Dakota. I want to see
Speaker 3: these other other states that really don't have an NFL franchise.
Speaker 3: And it's you know that I'd be like taking basketball
Speaker 3: out of Indiana as a whole and be like, you're
Speaker 3: not allowed you're not allowed to have a basketball team anymore.
Speaker 5: City that doesn't have an NFL team, that should.
Speaker 4: Let me think, yeah, uh well, to slightly be a
Speaker 4: little different, wil samere thinks, I'll say that the state
Speaker 4: of South Carolina needs a professional team of something.
Speaker 5: I mean, well, depending on where you are, you do
Speaker 5: have the Panthers.
Speaker 4: No, I've already disowned them. They're not the Carolina the
Speaker 4: professional franchise.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to deal with that.
Speaker 1: I don't know you guys have come up though, but yeah, they're.
Speaker 4: Until Dave Tepper completely proves to me that he can
Speaker 4: be okay as an owner.
Speaker 1: Right now, they are the North Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 4: I've already disowned every bit of South Carolina affiliation for
Speaker 4: all of the fans I speak for all of the
Speaker 4: fans in South Carolina yet, but should.
Speaker 5: Well, I think one city that comes to mind, I've
Speaker 5: got a couple of One city that comes to mind,
Speaker 5: Salt Lake City. It's a growing sports market and they've
Speaker 5: had the Jazz, They've they've got a pretty rabid fan base.
Speaker 5: They've had one over there for a while. I know
Speaker 5: the hot They just got a hockey team last year.
Speaker 5: They were the Arizona Coyotes. I believe they just moved
Speaker 5: up there. The owners of the Jazz bought them. They're
Speaker 5: There have been talks about the league either expanding or
Speaker 5: relocating to Salt Lake City for baseball. I know before
Speaker 5: they moved to Vegas, they were talks about the Oakland
Speaker 5: A's potentially looking at Salt Lake City and there's still
Speaker 5: been some stage rumors. So that's one in Atlantic City.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: In Atlantic City. That then guess what, either the New
Speaker 3: York Jets or the New York the New York the
Speaker 3: New Jersey Giants can can move to Atlantic City.
Speaker 1: Hey, one of them should move. Why are the two
Speaker 1: teams in New York sharing a stadium?
Speaker 5: Like what?
Speaker 1: That's weird to me. I don't know if it's weird.
Speaker 1: That's weird to me.
Speaker 5: It is a little weird to me.
Speaker 1: L A too, Shoot, I mean l A too. Chargers
Speaker 1: in the Rams, I mean.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Steve, you said San Diego doesn't count, even
Speaker 5: though I think they should. The Chargers I think they.
Speaker 2: I agree with you. Like they were they were robbed.
Speaker 2: If you look around, they that they don't really have
Speaker 2: another sport.
Speaker 5: Sports down that that lost their NFL team recently, Saint Louis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly as soon as.
Speaker 2: I also said Nebraska, Nebraska, Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: Like there is some Midwest you know, you know state
Speaker 3: cities that that deserve love too.
Speaker 2: We shouldn't be overloading, uh you know, you know, you know, uh, California, New.
Speaker 3: York because technically New York has three teams, even though
Speaker 3: Buffalo's upstate and not like New York City, but technically
Speaker 3: they're the only one that that is actually in the
Speaker 3: state of New York.
Speaker 1: Oh, like I said, well, this is kind of random too.
Speaker 4: So you just mentioned all of those teams that are
Speaker 4: very close right there in that market.
Speaker 1: That's why their rivalry is so good.
Speaker 4: That's why the AFC, North Cleveland, Baltimore, and Cincinnati they're
Speaker 4: all relatively close. So you've got all of these fan bases,
Speaker 4: you know, within proximity. And that's the one thing about Atlanta, Atlanta,
Speaker 4: the Braves, there's like seven hundred miles in every direction
Speaker 4: before you find their next rival in baseball. And so yeah,
Speaker 4: this whole thing is wild. Why do you want to
Speaker 4: saturate these large markets as came?
Speaker 1: They've been wild? Bro, These comments are shout out Chacane
Speaker 1: p Digits, Mark all of you guys. Man, Yeah, y'all
Speaker 1: have been hilarious. You've been a little out of pocket,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 3: Well, samir a ask for for some trade talk prior
Speaker 3: prior to to the draft, and we're gonna touch on them.
Speaker 3: So I know you wanted to touch on Porzingis in there.
Speaker 3: But look at these these pre draft trades that that
Speaker 3: that that just that just came down the pipeline over
Speaker 3: over the last week week or so. I mean, obviously,
Speaker 3: Kevin Durant to the Rockets probably the one that sticks
Speaker 3: out the most. Drew hol Day to the Blazers. There's
Speaker 3: been some crazy moving and shaking going around. So mea
Speaker 3: tell tell me how hyped you are that you that
Speaker 3: you have Perzingis down there in Atlanta or are you
Speaker 3: hyped at all?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: There was a lot of excitement from the Atlanta Hawks
Speaker 5: fan base in general when the trade for Chris Stops
Speaker 5: Porzinkis was announced. He brings a lot of what this
Speaker 5: team has been lacking in recent years since there running
Speaker 5: the Eastern Conference Finals in twenty one. Size feels like
Speaker 5: every year when we're in the plane or in the playoffs,
Speaker 5: our lack of gets exposed. Porzinci springs that a guy
Speaker 5: who's been on winning teams, a guy who's won a championship.
Speaker 5: So somebody who can help, you know, kind of kind
Speaker 5: of change the culture, who has some championship pedigree and experience.
Speaker 5: He brings that he averaged almost twenty and contributed to
Speaker 5: a championship team. And if he's healthy, watching him catch
Speaker 5: lobs from Trey Young and he can shoot forty percent
Speaker 5: from downtown, Yeah, it's gonna be a beautiful sight to see.
Speaker 5: And and most importantly, if you are Athanity Atlanta Hawks,
Speaker 5: the biggest grievance within the Atlanta Hawks fan base is
Speaker 5: that Tony Wrestler, the owner, has owned the team for
Speaker 5: a decade and has never once gone into the luxury tax.
Speaker 5: And we're all sitting here like, come on, like like
Speaker 5: we're Atlanta. We're not a small market. You know, there
Speaker 5: are a lot of players that live out here during
Speaker 5: the off season, that train here. So it's not like
Speaker 5: Atlanta is this undesirable place to live, Like, spend some
Speaker 5: money and invest in this team. This team was ranked
Speaker 5: dead last in attendance last year, and right now you've
Speaker 5: got to do what you can to. And just before
Speaker 5: I say it, Atlanta is one of those towns where
Speaker 5: we have a passionate fan base. It's not to the
Speaker 5: level of you know, Philadelphia or New York or anything
Speaker 5: like that. But if you put something on the court
Speaker 5: or on the field that the city can get behind, man,
Speaker 5: the city's gonna ride with you. Like I remember, like
Speaker 5: during our run to the Eastern Conference Finals in twenty
Speaker 5: twenty one, there had never been any point in which
Speaker 5: I remember the city getting behind the Hawks in the
Speaker 5: way they did that year, even during their sixty win
Speaker 5: season in twenty fifteen, Like there had never been that
Speaker 5: much excitement for the Hawks up until that point, the
Speaker 5: atmosphere at the games, the buzz around the city, from
Speaker 5: the way the local radio stations talked about the team
Speaker 5: and cover the team from the top down. And this
Speaker 5: is a message to your fan base. And we're not
Speaker 5: done yet from what reports are saying, because we have
Speaker 5: I believe a twenty five to twenty six million dollar
Speaker 5: trade exception from the de John sat Murray Dyson Daniels
Speaker 5: trade last year. So you use that exception to help
Speaker 5: add even more depth to this team and help out
Speaker 5: that foundation we already have of trade Dyson, Jalen and
Speaker 5: zacharyisha Che. That is sending a message to your fans
Speaker 5: that hey, you know, it's sending a message like you're
Speaker 5: making a statement, like, hey, we're really trying to go
Speaker 5: for this thing. We're really trying to make some noise
Speaker 5: in the Eastern Conference, which is wide open. So that's
Speaker 5: why there's so much excitement surrounding this team. And if
Speaker 5: if Jalen Johnson can stay healthy, if Porzenkis can stay healthy,
Speaker 5: the Hawks are gonna be a fun team to watch
Speaker 5: if they continue to add.
Speaker 3: I can say the same thing about my susters, but
Speaker 3: they just can't stay healthy.
Speaker 5: Yeah and again, along with size, depth has been this
Speaker 5: team's biggest issue since twenty twenty one. Great example, before
Speaker 5: Jalen Johnson got hurt in January, we were the fifth seed.
Speaker 5: He gets hurt, we end up missing the playoffs. Like
Speaker 5: an injury to one player. And this may sound short sided,
Speaker 5: but most of the time, an injury to one player
Speaker 5: shouldn't derail your entire season. You need depth, You need
Speaker 5: a lot of guys that can play a role really
Speaker 5: well or can cont tribute to multiple facets. So I
Speaker 5: hope this Perzincis trade is only the beginning, and not
Speaker 5: only that, you offloaded two bad contracts in George Kneeing
Speaker 5: and Terrence Mann. So hopefully this is only the beginning
Speaker 5: of what looks to be an exciting offseason. If you're
Speaker 5: an Atlanta Hawks fan.
Speaker 3: I'll just say it like this, if you're one of
Speaker 3: these tweener teams just that was just outside of the playoffs,
Speaker 3: you have to be excited this year because the East
Speaker 3: is wide open. You have three superstars tear their achilles
Speaker 3: that are not coming back next season. The Celtics shouldn't
Speaker 3: be shouldn't be a top kintender, you know. And with
Speaker 3: that being said, the top end of it, you know, obviously,
Speaker 3: you know Cleveland should be out of the mix. There's
Speaker 3: a bunch of those teams that are on top that
Speaker 3: should not should not be in that mix.
Speaker 2: And if you can put the bright pieces.
Speaker 3: Around it, like whether we're talking about Atlanta or some
Speaker 3: of these other teams that were just on.
Speaker 2: The outside looking in, you should be going all in
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 3: And and speak that we're already seeing trades like you
Speaker 3: know that, like I said, you know, as I put
Speaker 3: on there, you know, Kevin Durant was traded to Houston.
Speaker 2: Does he make a difference there? Does he get them?
Speaker 2: I mean he's still in the Western Conference.
Speaker 3: That it's the Western Conference is what the Eastern Conference was,
Speaker 3: you know twenty years ago. It is loaded with guys
Speaker 3: that that that could get me go ahead.
Speaker 4: The most consequential trade that's going to happen or could have,
Speaker 4: don't I don't know if I could say it it's
Speaker 4: going to happen. I think it is, but I'm sure
Speaker 4: you guys would agree. But the most influential one would
Speaker 4: be honest, onto canoopboat.
Speaker 2: He said he's staying. He said he's staying.
Speaker 5: Yes, it seems like he's open is staying. But there's
Speaker 5: also a lot of trade rumors. But what would because
Speaker 5: Desmond Bane just went for four protector for unprotected first
Speaker 5: round picks.
Speaker 1: That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in
Speaker 1: my life.
Speaker 5: Only got traded for one.
Speaker 1: That four?
Speaker 3: How do you get a king's ransom like that?
Speaker 5: But Luke only got traded for one?
Speaker 3: Right, This is what I mean.
Speaker 2: It makes no sense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I don't know what it is like in
Speaker 5: the NBA, it's a common theme. You see a lot
Speaker 5: with these young teams. Like if you've got a team
Speaker 5: with the young nucleus and they lose in the first round,
Speaker 5: sometimes they might make in a way kind of make
Speaker 5: a knee jerk trader and overreaction in an attempt to
Speaker 5: go all in and end up overpaying for somebody who
Speaker 5: may not necessarily be worth it. Like did you see
Speaker 5: the new contractor Rockets just gave Kevin Durant, Like it's
Speaker 5: like they're paying him for two years and like I
Speaker 5: think over sixty million a year. And this is what
Speaker 5: I mean, Like you had you your you just won
Speaker 5: fifty games, you have a young nucleus and you know,
Speaker 5: and you've got guys like Fred van Fleet and Dylan Brooks.
Speaker 5: Dylan Brooks especially as a culture setter. You see what
Speaker 5: Memphis has ben since he left, and you see what
Speaker 5: he was able to do in Houston with those young
Speaker 5: players they have. And not only do you trade that,
Speaker 5: you trade him and you trade Jalen Green. Yeah, he
Speaker 5: had a bad playoff series, but he is one of
Speaker 5: still one of their young promising players with potential, and
Speaker 5: you trade him for thirty seven year old Kevin Durant.
Speaker 5: And on top of that, you gave him sixty million
Speaker 5: over the next two years in Orlando. I like Desmond Bean.
Speaker 5: Orlando has a nice young core, but four first round
Speaker 5: picks like the Knicks last year. Five first round picks
Speaker 5: for macal Bridges, and then.
Speaker 3: Is but he's he's a he's a killer, dude, he's a.
Speaker 2: Stud.
Speaker 1: He is.
Speaker 5: But five for.
Speaker 3: Listen, I was made when we traded him after we
Speaker 3: drafted him.
Speaker 5: I'm like, what are we doing? I remember that I
Speaker 5: didn't know.
Speaker 2: That they drafted him.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, finally the guy from Villanova who can
Speaker 3: actually play.
Speaker 2: Trade to Arizona.
Speaker 5: What Yeah?
Speaker 3: And then now seeing seeing them pull him, pull him
Speaker 3: out of a out of Phoenix for five.
Speaker 5: Yeah. And and then what we did.
Speaker 2: Look, dude, they were in the Eastern Conference finals this year.
Speaker 5: Yeah. And then what we did in twenty two. So
Speaker 5: twenty twenty one we have the run of the Eastern
Speaker 5: Conference finals. Twenty twenty two, we had some injuries, had
Speaker 5: some COVID, had a down year playing got We lost
Speaker 5: to Miami in five. They they beat tray up pretty good,
Speaker 5: the heat or physical team. They beat tray up pretty good.
Speaker 5: And the narrative was that, look, we've got to get
Speaker 5: Trace some help we've got to get him a number two,
Speaker 5: and we've got to get a guy who can play defense.
Speaker 5: And the thought process was that by making that trade
Speaker 5: for de jont Murray, we were we were killing two
Speaker 5: birds with one stone. So it was like, Okay, forget
Speaker 5: the three first round picks, We're gonna be contending in
Speaker 5: the East for the foreseeable future. Unfortunately, it just didn't
Speaker 5: fit out fit well here. They did accompany each other
Speaker 5: well together when they were on the court. At the
Speaker 5: same time, a lot of the young guys they were
Speaker 5: banking on taking that next step, like a DeAndre Hunter
Speaker 5: or a John Collins or guys that they had paid
Speaker 5: didn't take that next step and in this and it's
Speaker 5: kind of pretty much contributed big time to the play
Speaker 5: and rut we've been in the last four years. But hopefully,
Speaker 5: with this offseason we've been having in the nuclease, we
Speaker 5: have hopefully an Si Solik can pull us out of
Speaker 5: that and we can be a top sixteen. But yeah,
Speaker 5: it just kind of falls into that the only.
Speaker 3: Team that didn't take major injuries and didn't lose a
Speaker 3: lot of their.
Speaker 2: Nucleus in the New York Knicks.
Speaker 3: They're the only team that that that I think from
Speaker 3: this playoffs should should absolutely.
Speaker 2: Be returning that they didn't lose too much.
Speaker 3: They didn't they didn't sustain big injuries or any other
Speaker 3: I don't think the Indiana Paces or the Poults and
Speaker 3: Celtics make the playoffs next year, neither one.
Speaker 5: I still think the Celtics can make the playoffs, but
Speaker 5: I don't know about an end. I don't know about it.
Speaker 2: Man Halliburton, is that team heart, soul and core.
Speaker 5: And then and then also another team. Look at Phoenix.
Speaker 5: They had a nice young core with some veterans like
Speaker 5: a Chris Paul J. Crowder, but then they had some
Speaker 5: young pieces like a Booker of Bridges DeAndre Ayton, who
Speaker 5: kind of declined towards the end, but they had a
Speaker 5: nice young cord.
Speaker 2: They went to the fires and.
Speaker 3: Then then absolutely knee jerk reaction and didn't have a
Speaker 3: plan in place to replace something.
Speaker 5: And then I think getting embarrassed by Dallas in that
Speaker 5: game seven caused them to have that knee jerk jerk
Speaker 5: reaction and and make the trades for Kevin Durant and
Speaker 5: then eventually Bradley Beal and look where they are now.
Speaker 4: Well, Hey, so the one thing I did want to
Speaker 4: respond to was the whole Kevin Durant trade. And I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna beat a dead horse when I talked to
Speaker 4: you about my dirty sea words again tonight. But guess what,
Speaker 4: Kevin Durant doesn't scream chemistry, culture, commitment.
Speaker 1: He doesn't scream those things to me. He screams a
Speaker 1: good sea word. Championship chasing. He's championship chase.
Speaker 2: He's a Hall of Famer already.
Speaker 1: Like, but that's what he No, he doesn't need to,
Speaker 1: but I mean that, that's what he's doing, it seems like.
Speaker 3: And so yeah, with that, I just think he wants
Speaker 3: to compete at a high level.
Speaker 7: And I guess he didn't think he was going to
Speaker 7: be able to do that with the Suns, so that's
Speaker 7: why he went to Houston.
Speaker 3: I think it's a it's a side words move in
Speaker 3: my opinion for him.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree, Yeah, what in a step up?
Speaker 1: But then to your poor, to your question you just
Speaker 1: asked there is you don't know why he would do that.
Speaker 1: I don't know why Lebron would say that rings don't
Speaker 1: matter the other day if he were ten and oh
Speaker 1: in the finals versus four and six.
Speaker 2: God, you finished, You finished.
Speaker 3: Brother.
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say if if he was ten
Speaker 4: and oh in the finals versus four and six in
Speaker 4: the finals, he would be the first one to tell
Speaker 4: you guess what rings?
Speaker 1: Rings matter? Yeah, being married matters, Like, oh yeah, it
Speaker 1: don't matter anymore.
Speaker 5: Rings no matter. That's why he went to Miami and
Speaker 5: teamed up with Dwyane Wade and christ To be fair
Speaker 5: the first, I agree he had no help.
Speaker 1: How many would he actually have.
Speaker 2: In Miami?
Speaker 3: And he got I got beaten by bye bye by
Speaker 3: two Dallas teams, as he should have.
Speaker 4: Right, But how like if he had stayed in Cleveland though,
Speaker 4: so he finally went back and won there.
Speaker 1: But if he had stayed, in.
Speaker 3: My opinion, he shouldn't have went to Miami. He should
Speaker 3: have He should have just had people come and join
Speaker 3: him there. Right.
Speaker 5: No, I mean he said in the podcast years ago
Speaker 5: that he tried to, but he said that he couldn't
Speaker 5: get anyone to go there. I mean, yeah, who wants
Speaker 5: to live in Cleveland?
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that for a second.
Speaker 5: Well really wants to listen.
Speaker 3: When you look at that time period, right, he was
Speaker 3: and he was the face of the league at that time,
Speaker 3: the biggest star of the everyone. Everyone was flocking to him. Granted,
Speaker 3: Cleveland's not the greatest place in the world, and that
Speaker 3: was probably his problem, is like, I don't want to
Speaker 3: vacation in Cleveland. So he wait, went down to Miami,
Speaker 3: all right, and then he goes back to Cleveland and
Speaker 3: he says beefing with Kyrie and then he goes runs
Speaker 3: to l a right, and the.
Speaker 5: Chasing rdon.
Speaker 2: Since he got in the league, he was the nineteen
Speaker 2: year old phenom. He's ring chasing.
Speaker 3: If he's really ring chasing, he ain't catching nobody because
Speaker 3: Bill Russell has everyone bete Okay, let's be honest.
Speaker 2: He's trying to chase the goat.
Speaker 3: He's trying to chase Michael Jordan's He's never gonna get
Speaker 3: the six now, So now he's he's he's putting on
Speaker 3: his cry baby face and sitting there saying trying to
Speaker 3: trying to throw Nash's name in there, Barkley's name in
Speaker 3: their AI's name, and they're like, oh.
Speaker 2: Well, these guys are revered.
Speaker 3: It's how he goes about everything, is he's going on
Speaker 3: this media tour crying that it's ring culture. He created
Speaker 3: ring culture. He created it. Michael Jordan didn't create it, none,
Speaker 3: none of the other Larry Bird didn't create it, created or.
Speaker 5: Did the media create it? Because does he not.
Speaker 2: Have a media company by he does?
Speaker 3: He not have a media company behind him though he
Speaker 3: has a media company pushing this stuff. He only does
Speaker 3: interviews with certain things. He walks off the floor and
Speaker 3: bad losses. He's not a leader, he's not a killer.
Speaker 3: That's why he's not the goat. That's why he's ring
Speaker 3: chasing to try to try to sit there and say
Speaker 3: I have this, I have that, I should be the
Speaker 3: greatest of all time. He's been chasing Michael Jordan since
Speaker 3: he got in the league. He knows he can't get
Speaker 3: it now, so he's doing what he's doing all the time.
Speaker 3: He's making excuses on why he's he's not just like
Speaker 3: he makes excuses or why they lost in the playoffs
Speaker 3: last year, why they lost in the playoffs the year before.
Speaker 3: That's what he does. He is, without a doubt, a
Speaker 3: top talent of our time, without a doubt, there's nobody
Speaker 3: who could play the entire floor.
Speaker 2: Can you name someone in the pasts that can do that?
Speaker 3: No, you can't.
Speaker 2: But but there's other little intangibles that why he is not.
Speaker 3: I don't even have him as the best Laker of
Speaker 3: all time.
Speaker 2: Okay, he's third on my list.
Speaker 3: It's Kobe, it's freaking it's dream Abdul Jabbar.
Speaker 2: Then it's freaking Lebron James.
Speaker 3: He he is a top five greatest player of all
Speaker 3: time without a down, he is never going to be
Speaker 3: the goat and it burns him so bad to his core.
Speaker 4: Well, honestly, Steven, based on what you just said, you
Speaker 4: can't even make him a top five NBA player of
Speaker 4: all time because honestly, we could make the argument some
Speaker 4: mere just threw in another name as you were named
Speaker 4: of people, he might not even be the top five
Speaker 4: best Laker because all.
Speaker 5: Argue the magic's in front of him exactly, you could
Speaker 5: put Kobe Kareem Magic. You could actually argue that Shaq
Speaker 5: is in front of him as a Laker.
Speaker 1: As a as a Laker, as a Laker. Let's make
Speaker 1: sure we're being clear.
Speaker 5: No exactly Lakers street as a Laker.
Speaker 1: But he.
Speaker 5: Did this finals MVPs. I mean, there's a legit argument.
Speaker 3: He he legitimately did this to himself. He's crying about
Speaker 3: a culture that he created. When did when did people
Speaker 3: used to run a team up to go chase rings
Speaker 3: before that? When didn't happen in the eighties, didn't happen
Speaker 3: in the nineties. Oh, it happened under his watch. He
Speaker 3: created a culture and now he's crying about it. You see,
Speaker 3: did was Ai chasing rings? Yeah?
Speaker 2: He was chasing rings. He didn't create super teams.
Speaker 3: He never had any help in Philadelphia, right, And then
Speaker 3: when he got sent to Denver, he had what mellow
Speaker 3: for a few years?
Speaker 2: Who who was? Who was?
Speaker 3: Who was? Who was? It was the same thing when
Speaker 3: when they sent sent Chris Roberts to him was basically
Speaker 3: playing on one leg, like, come on, man, I love
Speaker 3: I love what he is. A comp was for himself,
Speaker 3: his brand. He's he is a master of building brands.
Speaker 3: With that a doubt he is. He is a top
Speaker 3: talent of our time. But he will never be in
Speaker 3: that conversation ever. It's not gonna happen. And then people
Speaker 3: are sitting there like, oh, you're just you're you're just
Speaker 3: hating him. No, I'm not hating on him. I'm not
Speaker 3: I'm chocking. I'm just explaining to you why he isn't
Speaker 3: it's clear in front of your face. I'm not the
Speaker 3: only one sitting there saying it. You have you have
Speaker 3: guys who are lifelong Laker fans that'd be like, he's
Speaker 3: not They they would they they're they're sitting theirs ain't.
Speaker 3: It's three, it's Michael, it's Kobe.
Speaker 2: Then you then they would start talking.
Speaker 5: About I think about that. Go argument is it depends
Speaker 5: on who you ask and what they value. Because if
Speaker 5: you talk about on the court and success on the court, yeah,
Speaker 5: you know you'll mention rings and in the State of
Speaker 5: the East in the nineties, and Jordan played versus the
Speaker 5: State of the East for a majority of Lebron's time.
Speaker 2: Step.
Speaker 5: But if we're talking from an on court perspective, and
Speaker 5: I think a big part of you look at what
Speaker 5: do you do with the group around you. Keep in
Speaker 5: mind Michael Jordan did not win a playoff series until
Speaker 5: Scottie Pippen got there. Look at Lebron. Look at who
Speaker 5: Lebron had. Was three years old, he was the finals
Speaker 5: in Cleveland. Who was the second best player on that team?
Speaker 3: Was that he had?
Speaker 1: Like what was that Mo Gibson, William Henderson, El Gaskiz
Speaker 1: Vera jiall. Yeah, bro, how about how about the two
Speaker 1: people that signed contracts when they left after matt How
Speaker 1: about Matthew Delvandova got signed to like one hundred million
Speaker 1: dollars after he won the championship?
Speaker 5: Well on sixteen, and then think about it. His last
Speaker 5: year in Cleveland, they won sixty games. The year he leaves,
Speaker 5: they lose sixty games.
Speaker 2: Michael got the number one pick.
Speaker 4: Don't forget the whole thing of this whole episode is
Speaker 4: conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they've got the number one overall pick, one
Speaker 1: overall pick that year.
Speaker 3: I told you it's not it's not. That's not it's not.
Speaker 3: It's a real thing. We could say it's conspiracy all
Speaker 3: we want that is a real thing.
Speaker 1: I believe.
Speaker 5: Yeah, to a point. We were.
Speaker 3: We've gotten so caught up in the ring culture. We
Speaker 3: forgot about the draft. So let me go touch on
Speaker 3: the draft. I got, I got the draft list here.
Speaker 3: What was was anyone surprised by anything? Who do you
Speaker 3: think got better last night?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 2: What are your guys?
Speaker 1: Overall starts?
Speaker 3: Let's start it off with some mir.
Speaker 5: So can you put the screen back up? Yeah? So,
Speaker 5: I mean overall when you look at the surprise. One
Speaker 5: surprise for me was a Yang Hanson going a lot
Speaker 5: earlier than projected to the Portland trail Blazers. I know
Speaker 5: he was a guy who worked out for the Hawks
Speaker 5: a little bit before the draft. He was projected second
Speaker 5: round pick, but he went sixteen overall to Portland.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 5: I gotta I gotta give a shout out to uh.
Speaker 5: Danny Ainge partially in the Utah Jazz. Ace Bailey did
Speaker 5: not work out with any teams. I don't think his
Speaker 5: agents want The rumor is I don't know if it's
Speaker 5: true or not, but the rumor is his agents didn't
Speaker 5: want him playing in Utah. Danny Ainge was like, okay, fine, UH,
Speaker 5: we're gonna take you anyway. Brooklyn nets five first round picks.
Speaker 5: They're the usage of those picks was maybe a bit questionable.
Speaker 5: I think there were times where maybe they didn't get
Speaker 5: the best player available, like they took Igor Demon at
Speaker 5: eight over Kaman Mala Watch. I don't know if I
Speaker 5: would have done that me personally, but I think the
Speaker 5: head scratcher of the night, uh the New Orleans Pelicans,
Speaker 5: like what what are they doing? You're not going to
Speaker 5: be very good next year? The draft class next year
Speaker 5: is supposedly going to be really good, and you trade
Speaker 5: and unprotected first to move up ten spots. So you
Speaker 5: got fleeced by Atlanta last year in the Dyson Daniels
Speaker 5: Larry Nance for de Jaunt Murray trade. You fired your
Speaker 5: front office or your place your front office. Atlanta also
Speaker 5: replaced much of their front office, and you made a
Speaker 5: deal with Atlanta, and you got fleeced again because again
Speaker 5: you're not gonna be that good next year. There's a
Speaker 5: good chance that that pick is going to end up
Speaker 5: being a very high, a very high pick. So the
Speaker 5: Atlanta Hawks honestly saw great work. And then you went
Speaker 5: and got a sin Newle at twenty three, and that
Speaker 5: is someone they were potentially considering. The rumor was at thirteen.
Speaker 5: So not only do you get chances are going to
Speaker 5: be a very high pick next year between the Bucks
Speaker 5: and the Pelicans, and if Jannis stays in Milwaukee, we're
Speaker 5: gonna end up getting that Pelicans pick, because right now
Speaker 5: the Hawks would get the higher pick between Milwaukee and
Speaker 5: New Orleans. But you also ended up so it's really
Speaker 5: a two for one. And this is the first time
Speaker 5: ever that at the Bird teams in town, the Hawks
Speaker 5: and the Falcons spent their first round pick on Georgia Bulldogs,
Speaker 5: So the Athens to Atlanta pipeline is expanding.
Speaker 3: I think they think they're going after in the wrong sport.
Speaker 3: But that's just my take.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 3: I do want to touch on on something I thought, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, as far as you know the draft goes,
Speaker 3: and you know, you know, I didn't think it was
Speaker 3: particularly the greatest draft of ever.
Speaker 2: But when uh, when I heard the Sixers pick I
Speaker 2: love his story. Did you did you hear about uh, you.
Speaker 3: Know, uh JV story that basically he spent the last
Speaker 3: seven years living off a generator.
Speaker 2: That kid is humble. Yeah, And when you hear a
Speaker 2: guy like that making did you hear he was sending.
Speaker 3: His ni O money into into this organization to help
Speaker 3: other kids who were in like in in in these
Speaker 3: dire type type situations where you know, you have a
Speaker 3: kid in the family who's an athlete, they just really
Speaker 3: can't do what they needed. Like, his story is just
Speaker 3: something that that tugs at the heartstrings. You can say
Speaker 3: what you say what you want. You know that I
Speaker 3: don't know why the Sixers pick them. Now, we got
Speaker 3: a freaking overloaded backcourt. So it's, uh, it's one of
Speaker 3: those ones where I got to question it. A lot
Speaker 3: of people felt that that Philadelphia probably should have should
Speaker 3: have been involved in a trade talk with you know,
Speaker 3: uh the three three uh you know max contracts they
Speaker 3: have have on the roster. So I thought it was
Speaker 3: a feel good story at least for for for everything
Speaker 3: that's been going on.
Speaker 2: Josh, we don't speak that name here no more that name.
Speaker 1: First of all, I.
Speaker 4: Told Josh to get in the garage. He always says
Speaker 4: that to me. So Josh, you're late, So.
Speaker 1: Get in the garage. And then.
Speaker 3: My NBA.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my NBA draft talk though that I wanted to
Speaker 1: get to.
Speaker 4: And then it's going to be quick and shoot, I
Speaker 4: don't know, we might be getting ready to get out
Speaker 4: of here in a minute, so y'all make sure.
Speaker 5: To hit like.
Speaker 2: Topics to go.
Speaker 3: That's all right, all right, yeah, I know.
Speaker 4: But so my NBA draft stuff you just mentioned it
Speaker 4: feel good stories. That was a crazy story. Javon Kinlaw
Speaker 4: a former Gamecock. He had that same story as a
Speaker 4: defensive lineman for football. And then what happened in the
Speaker 4: NBA draft last night though for a game Cock and
Speaker 4: let me go ahead and say clip this because JD
Speaker 4: is fixing two Southern Fry one of his own fan favorites,
Speaker 4: I am a.
Speaker 1: Fan of the game, comes.
Speaker 4: Colin Murray Boyles, Sir, you cannot say the F word
Speaker 4: after you get announced as a draft pick, and you
Speaker 4: most certainly can't say it.
Speaker 1: With disgust and disdain on your face. You cannot do that.
Speaker 1: You just made a whole fan base hate.
Speaker 4: You on draft night when they picked you ten picks
Speaker 4: higher than you should have been picked.
Speaker 1: So, sir, let's go on a couple of podcasts.
Speaker 4: Let's figure this thing out, because saying the F word
Speaker 4: as a sigh of relief that you were drafted will
Speaker 4: not fit in my narrative book.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4: When has anyone ever said the word that rhymes with
Speaker 4: duck as a sigh of.
Speaker 1: Relief when it when that's a sign of well, I
Speaker 1: guess what, yeah, so yeah, we'll start our dirty F words.
Speaker 1: So guess what it was? It was a sign of frustration.
Speaker 4: And you can't say the F word that rhymes with
Speaker 4: duck when you get drafted by a team and then
Speaker 4: just say, oh yeah, I was just relieved, Like oh yeah,
Speaker 4: I was waiting so long, No, said Door Sanders was
Speaker 4: waiting so long. You got picked at number nine. Colin
Speaker 4: Murray Boyles, you were there for like thirty freaking minutes.
Speaker 1: Take take my microphone away. I'm done.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna have one sort of uh, you know,
Speaker 3: NBA topic.
Speaker 2: All right, So we we had the NFL Draft, Now
Speaker 2: we're the NBA.
Speaker 3: Draft is going to complete. Who's gonna have the better, better,
Speaker 3: better career as the number one overall pick cam Ward.
Speaker 2: Or or Cooper flag.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think in this case, there's so
Speaker 5: much that goes into whether an NFL quarterback is successful.
Speaker 5: You need coaching. You gotta have the right coach, You
Speaker 5: need an offensive line that can protect him, and you
Speaker 5: gotta get him weapons. Southern Fried you can attest this.
Speaker 5: Bryce Young looked awful his rookie year. He was playing
Speaker 5: with a high basically what was basically a high school team.
Speaker 5: He was sacked like what sixty times? His wide receiver
Speaker 5: one was a thirty five year old Adam Thielen. He
Speaker 5: had a horrible coaching staff.
Speaker 1: But saw.
Speaker 4: And that's another thing too, sorry, but they saw that
Speaker 4: this is the best coaching staff ever.
Speaker 1: As symbols.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember like that offseason they were saying, like
Speaker 5: the Panthers have this all star coaching staff, and.
Speaker 1: Uh man, it reminded me of a haunted house.
Speaker 5: Didn't even finish the year. But but yeah, you saw
Speaker 5: him the second half after his benching with Dave Canalis,
Speaker 5: who has a history of of, you know, working with quarterbacks.
Speaker 5: He worked with Gino Smith and Seattle with Baker Mayfield
Speaker 5: in Tampa, and it seems like and you he looked
Speaker 5: like a He looked like a completely different quarterback from
Speaker 5: the one that was his rookie year, that one that
Speaker 5: started his career two and seventeen and got benched. So
Speaker 5: coaching matters. I feel like the NBA to an extent,
Speaker 5: even if a player doesn't necessarily meet that potential or expectations. Basketball,
Speaker 5: there's five guys on the court and they're playing both ways.
Speaker 5: One player, as I was mentioning with Lebron James, what
Speaker 5: happened in Cleveland when he was there, what happened when
Speaker 5: he left, one player can make a difference potentially between
Speaker 5: a team making the playoffs or being in the lottery.
Speaker 5: The NFL is offense, defense, special teams. Coaching, so many
Speaker 5: moving parts like like look at Andrew Luck. The Colts
Speaker 5: basically forced him into early retirement, having him playing behind
Speaker 5: a terrible offensive line up until his last year. Basically
Speaker 5: when they went and got Quentin Neilson and they got
Speaker 5: somebody else. I forgot that draft.
Speaker 3: I think early on, I think Cooper is going going
Speaker 3: to have more success. But I think if if the
Speaker 3: rebuild in Tennessee doesn't take that long and they're actually
Speaker 3: able to get get Will Leaves out of there, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe maybe see if they can go fleece the New
Speaker 3: Orleans Saints, who is in desperate need of a quarterback,
Speaker 3: you know, because uh well you know we already know
Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Eagles took advantage of the Saints with some
Speaker 3: picks to over the years that there they're good for that.
Speaker 3: So I'll say it like this, man, early on, it's
Speaker 3: going to be Cooper flag. But I think overall skill set,
Speaker 3: I mean, as much as I would love the seen
Speaker 3: Cooper here, I think cam Ward has the tools to
Speaker 3: be an elite quarterback in the league.
Speaker 2: They just have to develop him.
Speaker 3: And the question is can he stay up right long
Speaker 3: enough to be able to see that into fruition.
Speaker 5: So yeah, and the thing about Tennessee is that it's
Speaker 5: not a talented roster. They're kind of in the middle
Speaker 5: of a rebuild. And one thing about another factor that
Speaker 5: goes that determines the success or trajectory of a young
Speaker 5: quarterback is stability and continuity. The Titans have a new
Speaker 5: general manager, Mike Burganzi. So if the Titans have another
Speaker 5: bad season, which I think they will, and their offense
Speaker 5: and continues to struggle and Ward, you know, cam Woard
Speaker 5: doesn't really take those strides. Is there a case in
Speaker 5: which Brian Callahan is on the hot seat and Mike
Speaker 5: Burgonzi might want to bring in a coach that he
Speaker 5: had to seen hiring.
Speaker 4: Well, honestly, that's what I was gonna say, and I'll
Speaker 4: get my take in here on this real quick. I
Speaker 4: was going to say that I trust Cooper Flagg obviously,
Speaker 4: because he's going to do better. Younger age easier in
Speaker 4: the NBA for a guy his status. It's a lot
Speaker 4: harder for a quarterback going to he's got a better coach,
Speaker 4: me let me finish. And so yeah, of course it's
Speaker 4: gonna be much easier for a guy like Cooper Flagg,
Speaker 4: because cam Ward is one of eleven. He is a quarterback.
Speaker 4: And exactly to Samir's point and to your point, Steven,
Speaker 4: I don't trust the head coach. I don't trust Callahan.
Speaker 4: We always put all of these really really good players
Speaker 4: on really really crappy teams that only could win one
Speaker 4: or two games last year.
Speaker 1: Therefore, it's not likely they're gonna.
Speaker 4: Do good unless you end up, hopefully in a situation
Speaker 4: like in Carolina for the Panthers, hopefully Bryce Young flips
Speaker 4: it around with Dave Canalis as we've mentioned.
Speaker 1: But yeah, give Cooper flag, easy pick.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this, don't put unfair expectations on that guy.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't want to hear Lebron. I don't want
Speaker 1: to hear none of that.
Speaker 4: We see what Zion has gone through. Just say they're
Speaker 4: gonna be a really good basketball player.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens.
Speaker 4: We gotta stop putting this is the next Michael Jordan,
Speaker 4: this is the next Kareem, this is the next Magic,
Speaker 4: this is in the next Lebrun.
Speaker 1: We gotta stop that. We gotta stop that. Fans have
Speaker 1: to be better in more ways than one.
Speaker 3: Now, one last basketball tacket topic we get, we gotta
Speaker 3: touch on it and again she's back on the injury list.
Speaker 3: She's she's gonna miss a game with it with another injury.
Speaker 3: Can can the w n b A sustain the the
Speaker 3: traction they've been grabbing? Obviously, I think this not just
Speaker 3: last year's draft class, but this year's draft class of
Speaker 3: current ladies that got them should be getting more attention
Speaker 3: than they are.
Speaker 2: Obviously, everyone knows who Sophie Cunningham is. Now you have
Speaker 2: other stars in the league, but.
Speaker 3: You know, Kaitlyn Kaitlyn Clark continually going down because she's
Speaker 3: getting banged up.
Speaker 2: They're not giving her, They're not they're not giving her
Speaker 2: the calls and things of that nature. Her keep keep
Speaker 2: going on the sideline.
Speaker 3: Is you think that's something they could continue to grow
Speaker 3: with some or or or or they're are they going
Speaker 3: to have to hold these referees accountable to actually call
Speaker 3: the nots that that's going on, because it's not just
Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark that's dealing with with ridiculous playing and fails.
Speaker 3: Like you know, I'm watching other games and you know
Speaker 3: there's athletes pulling up, pulling up, pulling other other athletes
Speaker 3: down by the back of their hair.
Speaker 2: That that should be you should be getting yanked out
Speaker 2: of the game for them that there's no place in
Speaker 2: basketball for that.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean I think it's definitely coming. I mean,
Speaker 5: I do think there's definitely gonna be some changes into
Speaker 5: how games are officiated, into the cause of star like
Speaker 5: a Caitlyn Clark might get. And again it goes back
Speaker 5: to ratings. And I want to trace this back to
Speaker 5: our conversation earlier about leagues having their select a few
Speaker 5: it seams or play is that they want to see
Speaker 5: do well. Because let's put this in the NFL context.
Speaker 5: If something happens to a guy like a Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 5: or Lamar Jackson or a Jaden Daniels, what happens to
Speaker 5: the NFL's ratings, They're gonna go down? Uh, something happens
Speaker 5: to a Steph Curry or a Lebron James or a
Speaker 5: Victor Sga whatnot. What's gonna happen to the NBA's Brandon
Speaker 5: the rings is gonna go down?
Speaker 3: Well, the NBA they're launching an investigation into why all
Speaker 3: these players are tearing their achilles. Yeah, like that's how
Speaker 3: serious the NBA is taken losing three of their big
Speaker 3: stars to achilles injury.
Speaker 2: With it within a few months. It's not like it's
Speaker 2: happened over a year. This has happened all with with
Speaker 2: within a matter of a few months.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So the NBA, he's taking it seriously when they're losing
Speaker 3: some of their biggest, brightish young stars.
Speaker 2: Toler's Aliburton.
Speaker 3: You know you.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Jad, Can can I say something that no
Speaker 4: one probably ever will think of or say?
Speaker 1: Ever?
Speaker 2: Ahead?
Speaker 1: Well, No, I'm just leading into it. The NBA created
Speaker 1: this problem.
Speaker 4: Whenever they said in order to win the MVP, you
Speaker 4: have to play X amount of games, the NBA players
Speaker 4: were already telling you that the schedule wasn't working for them.
Speaker 4: That is why load management became a thing. Therefore you wanted,
Speaker 4: you got to force them to play so many games
Speaker 4: to be eligible to win the m v P. No,
Speaker 4: Grant don't in her own I'm not saying I agree
Speaker 4: with what I'm saying, but I'm saying the NBA painted
Speaker 4: themselves into this corner.
Speaker 3: No, they be back in the back, ass whiny players
Speaker 3: painting themselves in the corner. Like could you imagine going
Speaker 3: back twenty thirty years and them sitting there saying, oh, well,
Speaker 3: I need load management, I need load management. That's what
Speaker 3: that That's why I'm not this, That's why I'm not
Speaker 3: that these guys want.
Speaker 2: To point their fingers at anybody else but themselves.
Speaker 3: How I've never seen it. That's why no one watches basketball,
Speaker 3: or at least the NBA product. People love love watching
Speaker 3: NCAA basketball. You don't see them taking load management. You
Speaker 3: don't see them taking games off when people pay good
Speaker 3: money to see them. That is the most, the most,
Speaker 3: the most millennial thing I've ever heard of. My freaking
Speaker 3: wife that how eighty two games been in all the
Speaker 3: way along? So now you want to what you want
Speaker 3: to cut it down to sixty two? That make you
Speaker 3: feel better? I mean, come on, guys, are we serious
Speaker 3: about this?
Speaker 1: No? I mean I'm not.
Speaker 3: I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I'm saying play.
Speaker 2: I know, I'm sure you do.
Speaker 3: But but when this guy making making insane amount of
Speaker 3: money a year and he's just like I'm taking off
Speaker 3: the don't you like the only player that I would
Speaker 3: have understood and and I and I don't and I
Speaker 3: don't give him any slack on this, but you all
Speaker 3: embiid look look at how many injuries he's he sustained.
Speaker 2: Should should he be sitting there doing his body is
Speaker 2: too big for his frame.
Speaker 3: We've already everyone kind of established that already, and that's
Speaker 3: why he's as often injured as he is. But when
Speaker 3: he's one hundred percent, he's a freaking killer. Okay, but
Speaker 3: that that.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, K just a little bit, I
Speaker 2: got I got the generations wrong.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry either way. Either way, eighty two games is it?
Speaker 3: I don't sit there and see hockey players asking for
Speaker 3: load management. I don't see baseball players asking for load management.
Speaker 3: They paid double the games.
Speaker 5: Well, and from an NFL standpoint, I'm in Ross Saint Brown.
Speaker 5: I think tour obleak like had an obleaqu muscle completely
Speaker 5: come off of his bone. I think what it was
Speaker 5: in this it was a it was a CAF injury.
Speaker 5: Twenty twenty three first team All Pro first that.
Speaker 3: I don't want to I don't want I don't ever
Speaker 3: want to hear these guys say anything because the money
Speaker 3: they get, they have the best care they have, they
Speaker 3: have they have nine times out of ten the best
Speaker 3: doctors of it available to them, or have the money
Speaker 3: to go to to get get get the best doctor's
Speaker 3: second opinion, et cetera.
Speaker 2: So I really don't want to hear that that they
Speaker 2: they need that the schedule.
Speaker 3: Doesn't work for them. They rare he played back to
Speaker 3: backs when we have baseball. Sometimes you have baseball teams
Speaker 3: they don't have a game off for almost fourteen days
Speaker 3: at times. So I really don't want to hear that.
Speaker 3: But go ahead, Daddy, what do you what do you
Speaker 3: want to throw in on this?
Speaker 4: No yet, just again, that's the beauty of us being
Speaker 4: here together. You brought a question in my mind, So
Speaker 4: Samir and Steven, both of you question what, like, how
Speaker 4: has medicine and being a doctor and the procedures, How
Speaker 4: has all of that progressed.
Speaker 1: So much over the last thirty forty fifty years.
Speaker 4: Yet we're seeing these injuries though that are new now
Speaker 4: that we didn't see thirty.
Speaker 1: Forty fifty years ago, Like, how does that make sense
Speaker 1: to anybody? Well?
Speaker 5: I think, well, I think one theory I have is
Speaker 5: that the guys better athletes now than they were thirty
Speaker 5: forty years ago. So in a way that it can
Speaker 5: be you know, in a way of blessing and a curse,
Speaker 5: because it makes you more prone to injuries that you
Speaker 5: may not have seen thirty forty years ago or may
Speaker 5: not have seen his often.
Speaker 2: Now on the medicine side of thing, I'll touch on
Speaker 2: this list.
Speaker 1: You have.
Speaker 3: You have way better medicine, way better care than these
Speaker 3: athletes did did fifteen years ago, twenty years ago, fifty
Speaker 3: years ago, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Let me think about how Lebron has taken care of
Speaker 1: his body.
Speaker 3: Right, Listen, this is why I say what makes him
Speaker 3: so great is because he hasn't really haven't had these injuries.
Speaker 3: And a lot of people sit there and say that
Speaker 3: he's on steroids or whatever. Until I see a positive test.
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go down that road.
Speaker 1: But he is.
Speaker 3: He is the cal Ripken of the NBA. And that's
Speaker 3: saying something. That's saying something. There's no doubt that he's great.
Speaker 3: But another thing is we talk about it all the time.
Speaker 3: Availability is the biggest quality you can have as an athlete,
Speaker 3: and Lebron James checks that, double checks that box.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so I've listen.
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear it like you can sit
Speaker 3: there and say, oh, well, we're talking about Tyrese Halliburton
Speaker 3: or or or Jason Tate, Like, don't tell me these
Speaker 3: guys don't have access to money, to the team doctors
Speaker 3: of things of that nation like they have access to
Speaker 3: this stuff. It's all these guys are playing, busting their
Speaker 3: butts hard, playing basketball the way it should be played.
Speaker 3: So I'm not going to sit there and and and
Speaker 3: sit there and say, oh, well, you're doing it wrong
Speaker 3: this way. No, they're playing the game right. Can you
Speaker 3: imagine if if you had the medical care now back
Speaker 3: when Larry Bird was, if we'd probably got another ten
Speaker 3: years out of Larry Bird and he was a freaking animal,
Speaker 3: and in my opinion, like the only reason he's not
Speaker 3: in goat talks is because of his injuries, because of
Speaker 3: how he played the game. He wouldn't change that for anything.
Speaker 3: I'm sure he would change like, oh I was, you
Speaker 3: know when when I was in year ten, year, year
Speaker 3: fifteen or whatever, I could have added added another five
Speaker 3: years to my career. Could you imagine how we would
Speaker 3: speak about and that now if he had the medical
Speaker 3: care that these guys had now back then, other guys
Speaker 3: you know, you know it was Moses Malone, these are
Speaker 3: trashed at the end of his career. I'm sure he
Speaker 3: would sit there and love to have some of the
Speaker 3: medical medical care these guys had now back then, I mean,
Speaker 3: there's so many guys that we could name, you know
Speaker 3: that that that that we had their careers shortened by injury,
Speaker 3: whether it be them playing to their bodies breaking down whatever.
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 3: It's not something you can use to gain like against it.
Speaker 3: It's not something I want to sit there and see. Like,
Speaker 3: medical advances in all the sports are way higher than
Speaker 3: than what it was you know previous, you know, you know,
Speaker 3: generations and things of things of that nature.
Speaker 4: So right, well, hey, I'll be honest with you guys.
Speaker 4: I don't even play sports anymore. But I'm about to
Speaker 4: go get in my cryogenic chamber or in my sauna.
Speaker 4: You take your pick, but whichever one, I'm going to.
Speaker 3: It here in a minute. You're going on cry to
Speaker 3: sleep with us. I didn't say post malone.
Speaker 4: I said most is malone, post Kane's Wild. He also said, yeah,
Speaker 4: you got that one. Joshua said, nobody watches the w
Speaker 4: n B A.
Speaker 2: I'm not listen.
Speaker 3: Half of the nonsense is coming out of Josh's meth.
Speaker 2: And he's lucky at I don't put him on mute.
Speaker 3: Yeah anyway, anyway.
Speaker 4: One good thing he said, one good thing, nobody watches
Speaker 4: the w n B A right, right anyways, and that
Speaker 4: you're right because I'm not a nobody and I watch
Speaker 4: the w n B A.
Speaker 3: You're right, nobody's doesn't watch the w n B A.
Speaker 2: He's got that wrong, right.
Speaker 3: A lot of people, a lot more people are watching
Speaker 3: the w n B A that that don't watch the
Speaker 3: NBA anymore for obvious reasons.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna leave it at that.
Speaker 3: Now. One of the last topics we were going on
Speaker 3: is what is good heckling. Obviously I'm an Eagles fan.
Speaker 3: We we we heckle with the best of them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You still got Eli Manning talking about getting flipped off
Speaker 3: by little six year olds. Right. We are we we
Speaker 3: we we are the king of the hostile environments. I
Speaker 3: think people also, will people underestimate when we're talking about
Speaker 3: rowdy fans and what lines you can't cross and can't
Speaker 3: College sports is way worse than what you what we
Speaker 3: see here in Philadelphia, that there's a legitimate hate that
Speaker 3: certain colleges have with certain teams. It's just that's just natural.
Speaker 3: But we had a situation over the past few days
Speaker 3: and it really makes you want to want to ask
Speaker 3: the question, where's the line with heckling?
Speaker 2: And I mean I think it's really simple.
Speaker 3: You know, talk about how they play, talk about their team, wife, family.
Speaker 2: Kids, off limits, off limits.
Speaker 3: We've already touched on this when when we had the
Speaker 3: nonsense whereas we're talking about the w n B A
Speaker 3: that that went on between between Clark and r G
Speaker 3: three and and Ryan Clark has no room to talk
Speaker 3: because he you know, he dated a white woman. He's
Speaker 3: sitting there talking about at that because r G RG
Speaker 3: three has a white wife.
Speaker 2: He doesn't know the plight of a black woman, like
Speaker 2: is it did? Is he not a black man?
Speaker 3: So how would he not know?
Speaker 2: That was his mother?
Speaker 5: Not?
Speaker 3: So he might he might have an idea, maybe not
Speaker 3: to what Ryan thought it was, but he ultimately.
Speaker 2: Retracted the things of that nature.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna play like a forty second video about some
Speaker 3: of the stuff that just happened over the last few days,
Speaker 3: and then we're gonna come back and address.
Speaker 5: So why is to tell Marte weeping behind second base
Speaker 5: in the Diamondbacks White Sox game last night, Well, artees
Speaker 5: at bat one on two out, He's looking.
Speaker 8: Over at the stands and shakes his head and then
Speaker 8: starts u at that the reason he took an extra
Speaker 8: second there was because a fan.
Speaker 3: Was hackling him talking about his late mother, who passed
Speaker 3: away in a car accident.
Speaker 8: In the Dominican Republic, now.
Speaker 3: Family members are off limits for this exact reason. And
Speaker 3: I'm glad, I'm you know, you know, all Major League
Speaker 3: teams have banned him. Listen, I've had I've seen Phillies
Speaker 3: fans get thrown out for for for ras and relief pictures,
Speaker 3: ras and starting pictures before they they come down, they
Speaker 3: come down out of the bullpen to start their outing.
Speaker 3: But there's always a line. Man, family, kids, wife off limits.
Speaker 3: You could talk about the team, you can talk about
Speaker 3: the player, you can talk about their haircut. Oh you eat,
Speaker 3: you know you.
Speaker 2: For that line.
Speaker 3: If you're talking you know, you know, sexualities and things
Speaker 3: of that nature. That that that's that's also a gray area.
Speaker 3: I don't think you should talk to either. But everything
Speaker 3: else I think it is is up up for grabs
Speaker 3: in my opinion. You know, you know, you know say
Speaker 3: they couldn't hit a broadside of a barn, you know,
Speaker 3: talking about about how you know you know that that
Speaker 3: that they can't pitch worth worth the X y Z
Speaker 3: like there, there's certain things you can say family members
Speaker 3: is absolutely off limits. That he's been banned from ballparks,
Speaker 3: I think across the board now so that this kid
Speaker 3: can't ever go to a baseball game ever.
Speaker 2: Again, I'm sure he didn't.
Speaker 3: Know when he made the statement that that you know this,
Speaker 3: this young man's mother passed away in a car accident.
Speaker 7: But this is why you don't cross those lines, because
Speaker 7: you don't know. We say it all the time. You know,
Speaker 7: you know, you don't know what someone else is going through.
Speaker 7: You don't know, you know, you know how one little
Speaker 7: thing could change somebody's day for good.
Speaker 3: For beat or indifferent. So be careful how you treat people,
Speaker 3: Be careful what you say.
Speaker 2: And this was the prime example of it.
Speaker 9: I'm sure I'm sure this that the kid is absolutely
Speaker 9: regretting what he said at this point in time. But
Speaker 9: what's done and done, what said and said, and you know,
Speaker 9: we're gonna move on with life and hopefully I think
Speaker 9: other fans should take this as a.
Speaker 2: Lesson to be better, to show that we are we're
Speaker 2: better than that.
Speaker 3: Everyone talks about professional listen, professionalisms meant for those guys
Speaker 3: on the field.
Speaker 2: We're glad to heckle, We're alawd to boo.
Speaker 3: We're I was, I was talking about I've seen something
Speaker 3: this weekend that a Mets fan came down to Philadelphia
Speaker 3: and she was appalled by we kept booing and heckling
Speaker 3: and this. You're, first off, you're a Mets fan in Philadelphia,
Speaker 3: what do you expect do? Do you expect us to
Speaker 3: give you flowers and roses? No, we're rivals. We don't
Speaker 3: like you. You're invading our space, you're stealing our oxygen.
Speaker 2: You don't we don't want you there. We don't You're not.
Speaker 3: Gonna come back to citizens, poor God, that's what we want.
Speaker 2: We don't want you here.
Speaker 3: But there's a line, there's a certain line you don't cross.
Speaker 3: And and yeah, us as phild off your fans, we pushed.
Speaker 2: That line sometimes.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna act like we don't. We do push
Speaker 3: them line sometimes, But I'm gonna pass it.
Speaker 2: On to you guys.
Speaker 3: I think I laid out a nice little, a little
Speaker 3: segment here for you. We'll start with some here.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I absolutely agree, And I think the line
Speaker 5: is very clear. If you wanna talk about the opposing team,
Speaker 5: or or if you want to boo a player, you
Speaker 5: want to talk about an opposing player, that's absolutely fine,
Speaker 5: that's completely normal, and honestly, that's something you would expect
Speaker 5: any sporting event, like for example, whenever Bryce Harper comes
Speaker 5: to Atlanta, he gets booed. It's been happening even before
Speaker 5: your faphilies, happened even when he is in Washington. It
Speaker 5: started when he rubbed his ceet over the Atlanta Braves
Speaker 5: logo years ago back at Turner Field, and since then
Speaker 5: he's been getting booed. And not like it matters to
Speaker 5: him anyway, he kills us. But yeah, the Mets were
Speaker 5: at Truest Park last week and Braves fans were chanting
Speaker 5: overrated about Juan Soto towards the end of the game.
Speaker 5: Or if you know, you don't see it offen here
Speaker 5: in Atlanta, but if you want to boo yourd team
Speaker 5: when they don't play well, you see it at Falcons games.
Speaker 5: Sometimes that's fine, like leave it about you know, the
Speaker 5: performance on the field and keep it at that. Or
Speaker 5: if you want to be lighthearted, sometimes it's fine, Like
Speaker 5: during the NLDS a couple of years ago, the Braves
Speaker 5: are playing the Phillies at Citizens Bank Park, and the
Speaker 5: Phillies fans are chanting d ui at Marcelo Zuna. The
Speaker 5: backstory was that Marcelo Zuna was arrested a couple months
Speaker 5: before that for DUI in Atlanta. Like, that's fine and
Speaker 5: as much of an annoyance as it is in Whatnot.
Speaker 5: If Knicks fans want to yell f Tray Young whenever
Speaker 5: he comes to Madison Square Garden, Okay, that's fine, but
Speaker 5: leave the families out of it. Don't make it personal
Speaker 5: things like that. It's a pretty straightforward mind.
Speaker 4: Brother, Completely agree with everything y'all are saying. I've said
Speaker 4: it once, I'll say it one million more times. Players
Speaker 4: and athletes are real human beings. They have feelings, They
Speaker 4: have things that happen in their life, like their mother
Speaker 4: passing away. Granted, if you want to yell, like Samir
Speaker 4: suggested the word that rhymes with duck Trey Young, if
Speaker 4: you want.
Speaker 1: To yell, you suck at baseball by all means, do it.
Speaker 1: But when you start talking about people's wives, people's family,
Speaker 1: people's mothers, that's where it becomes really gray. We saw
Speaker 1: the incident with DeMarcus Cousins. We've seen so many interactions.
Speaker 3: Russell Westbrook was one of the worst ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then and then even recently on one or
Speaker 1: ten has gone into the fans, into the to the stands.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: He was absolutely provoked.
Speaker 3: You're not.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't believe it for that honestly.
Speaker 2: But yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, and the one thing I will say is fans,
Speaker 1: when you purchase a ticket, that is all you purchase.
Speaker 1: It does not come with a disrespect claus.
Speaker 4: Okay, just because you buy that ticket does not mean
Speaker 4: you get to say whatever you want to say when
Speaker 4: you walk into that stadium.
Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, And I mean I don't know how much
Speaker 1: more clear I can be about that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And and I think the part that makes it
Speaker 5: even worse is that if a fan knows about certain
Speaker 5: players personal or physical setbacks and heck of him about that,
Speaker 5: Like I don't know if this fan knew about could
Speaker 5: tell Marte's personal life with his mother.
Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna mention.
Speaker 5: It's like it's like people, yeah, like people make like
Speaker 5: like your mom jokes all the time, Like younger kids
Speaker 5: they say, oh your mom, Like like when you're mill spots,
Speaker 5: you say, oh your mom, Like we would make your
Speaker 5: mom jokes all the time, so maybe that was the case.
Speaker 5: I hope it wasn't the alternative where he knew about
Speaker 5: what happened and still made that joke. Like there was
Speaker 5: an incident in Cleveland earlier this year about uh, Jared
Speaker 5: duran I guess they were doing a behind the scenes
Speaker 5: kind of deal on the Red Sox and they had
Speaker 5: Jared Durant talking about like his personal set back, so
Speaker 5: he had some battles with depression and even at one
Speaker 5: point admitted to a suicide attempt, and you had a
Speaker 5: fan make a make a joke about that, Like that's
Speaker 5: just one of those things where it's just like that
Speaker 5: just crosses the line.
Speaker 1: Right, and then hey there's one.
Speaker 4: There's literally, as we were planning to discuss this tonight,
Speaker 4: Red Sox picture is getting harassing decent. I saw his
Speaker 4: wife is sharing fans threatening messages.
Speaker 1: Hey, just because the picture that you gambled on doesn't
Speaker 1: get as many.
Speaker 4: Strikeouts as you hoped he would, doesn't mean you get
Speaker 4: to go after him and his family like.
Speaker 1: Fans gambling whatever it is, be better. This is just ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I dare y'all to come after me. Dare y'all to
Speaker 1: come after me. I ain't playing. That's ridiculou.
Speaker 3: I mean I got into it with with some of
Speaker 3: my own fans at a game where we're at a
Speaker 3: Bills game. I was at a Bills game here Lincoln
Speaker 3: Financial Field with my uncle and it was like coming
Speaker 3: down and I didn't take my hat off as as
Speaker 3: it was sleeting rain. I'm like, I'm bundled up. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 3: I already got a cold. I'm not gonna I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna sit there and get get my my hair and
Speaker 3: my head wet and then sit there and have a
Speaker 3: further call. I got a I got a job to
Speaker 3: go to this week, and I'm trying to get back
Speaker 3: to work. Like you can. You can f right off,
Speaker 3: Like I'm still sitting there like singing the Nationalrath with
Speaker 3: my hand hand on my My uncle who was who
Speaker 3: was who was a military memory got up in dude's face.
Speaker 2: He's like, I freaking served. I don't have a problem
Speaker 2: with in Northern neither shr you are? Are you the
Speaker 2: hat police? So we all have to have to have
Speaker 2: to find that line and just be better.
Speaker 3: Like there's certain things that are that are worth going
Speaker 3: after there's certain things that that that that you can do.
Speaker 3: You you don't have to police everybody. But in this situation,
Speaker 3: this this what just happened. And I agree, I don't
Speaker 3: think he knew.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I honestly don't think this kid knew. You don't look
Speaker 3: like somebody that was just searching up only oh you.
Speaker 2: Know his mom passed away. Let's just try to hook
Speaker 2: a him with that.
Speaker 3: I just say, he was a stupid kid who made
Speaker 3: a stupid statement, and he's privately gonna regret it most
Speaker 3: of his life because he's never going back.
Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, I think it's Yeah, it's pretty clear.
Speaker 5: Like like if you want to, yeah, you can say
Speaker 5: you suck or whatnot, or you're a bum, you're overrated,
Speaker 5: or if you want a bulliard team when they don't
Speaker 5: play well, you want to say the coach needs to
Speaker 5: be fired or whatnot. Yeah, it's fine, it's normal, but
Speaker 5: it's just the personal stuff is like that's just not
Speaker 5: called for. Like again, as Southern Fries said, these guys
Speaker 5: are people too, and you know you you wouldn't want
Speaker 5: someone else, some complete stranger to come up to you
Speaker 5: and talk about you and talk about your family and whatnot.
Speaker 5: So what gives you the right to do it right?
Speaker 4: And and that's the last thing that I think we
Speaker 4: should say about it is the Internet has given way
Speaker 4: too many people the confidence to.
Speaker 1: Be able to say things in real life and not
Speaker 1: get in the face.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I've seen some I've seen some other parts
Speaker 5: as we'll seeing things like fantasy sports. In the sports betting,
Speaker 5: they have a rule.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Yeah it does, that's but yeah, it's
Speaker 4: just an excuse to me.
Speaker 3: But as we're down to the last ten minutes, Uh,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna first send it down to to
Speaker 3: uh the Southern five gentlemen, because uh, there's a there's
Speaker 3: a wrap up segment. We always do what's going on
Speaker 3: in your town? So UH send it to you, mister Wright.
Speaker 4: Alrighty, in my town, I already told y'all my game
Speaker 4: Cock basketball player first one drafted in the first round
Speaker 4: since two thousand and six, and he made the whole
Speaker 4: fan base hate him already by saying the word that
Speaker 4: rhymes with duck. So in my town, we're just always
Speaker 4: trying to make up for the game Cocks shortcomings.
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Speaker 5: So pretty quiet on the Falcons front. We are basically
Speaker 5: in the dead period regarding NFL news and content before
Speaker 5: training camp kicks off in late July Atlanta Hawks. This
Speaker 5: might be the best forty eight hour stretch of Hawks
Speaker 5: basketball in a while. Anti Slak gets promoted to general manager.
Speaker 5: He's bringing in some of his own guys from in
Speaker 5: the scouting apartment from New Orleans. In Philadelphia, we make
Speaker 5: that trade for Chris tops Porzinkis. It is a low risk,
Speaker 5: high reward kind of deal where you get off You
Speaker 5: offload two bad contracts and Terrence Man and George Niang
Speaker 5: you trade that, you trade one of your You trade
Speaker 5: a twenty second overall pick in the NBA Draft to
Speaker 5: the Brooklyn Nets as a part of that three team deal,
Speaker 5: and in return, you get a seven footer that can
Speaker 5: average almost twenty and can shoot damn near Fort Downtown.
Speaker 5: And the reason why I say it's a low risk,
Speaker 5: ky reward there are some injury concerns with Porzinkis, but
Speaker 5: there is one year left on his deal. So if
Speaker 5: he gets hurt or doesn't play well, doesn't work out
Speaker 5: for one way or another, not only did you not
Speaker 5: give up anything, but you are not tied to a
Speaker 5: bad contract. As I mentioned earlier, with him, he brings
Speaker 5: some of what we've been missing, some size and some
Speaker 5: veteran leadership with championship pedigree. Who's been on winning teams,
Speaker 5: who's contributed to championship teams. And then they finally got
Speaker 5: it right on draft night, or hopefully they continue that
Speaker 5: trend of getting it right on draft night with the
Speaker 5: drafting of zacharysche first overall, but they do trade back.
Speaker 5: They rob the Pelicans for the second straight off season,
Speaker 5: getting a nonprotected first, which I don't which I think
Speaker 5: is going to be very high because the Pelicans are
Speaker 5: gonna be all that good next year. You follow the
Speaker 5: footsteps of the Atlanta Falcons taking a Georgia Bulldog in
Speaker 5: the first round Jalen Walker in April, Ason Newel in June.
Speaker 5: Asonule notably was born in Atlanta, grew up a Hawks fan,
Speaker 5: had a Kyle Corver jersey, so it's a homecoming for
Speaker 5: of sorts for him. Uh And now with these Atlanta Braves,
Speaker 5: they follow up a sweep of the New York Mets
Speaker 5: last week at Truis Park by losing a series in
Speaker 5: Miami to the Marlins. Chris Sale fractures his rib diving
Speaker 5: after a ball and the team was up five to
Speaker 5: nothing in the top of the ninth. Why Brian Snicker
Speaker 5: had him out there when he was over one hundred
Speaker 5: pitches a team is up by five, I don't know.
Speaker 5: You take the first two in Queens against a Mets
Speaker 5: team that before yesterday had lost ten of their last
Speaker 5: lefe they go and lose seven to three. Diddy or foyints,
Speaker 5: the twenty year old pitching prospect. He's got the arm,
Speaker 5: he's got the potential, but unfortunately he's just not ready
Speaker 5: for the majors yet. He was unfortunately called up due
Speaker 5: to sales injury. Great job, double A not adding some
Speaker 5: starting pitching this past offseason, and another frustrating night for
Speaker 5: them tonight as they lose for nothing. Griffin Canning, who
Speaker 5: by the way, was non tendered by the Braves Is,
Speaker 5: was having a pretty good season for the Mets. Towards Achilles.
Speaker 5: I believe in the third or fourth inning, Braves couldn't
Speaker 5: touch the Mets bullpen Grant Holmes did his best to
Speaker 5: keep the team in the game, but it's just a
Speaker 5: continuation of what has just been another frustrating scene. Austin Riley,
Speaker 5: what are we doing here? The largest contract in Braves history,
Speaker 5: striking out at a very high rate. In a recent chart,
Speaker 5: was graded as one of the least clutch players in
Speaker 5: all of baseball. And if you watch the Braves that
Speaker 5: that comes as no surprise. It seems virtually whenever it's
Speaker 5: a high leverage moment or we've got runners on with
Speaker 5: two outs, you know, nothing, we get nothing from him.
Speaker 5: And but then when we'll be down six to nothing
Speaker 5: in the eighth and we'll hit a home run. But
Speaker 5: whatever Michael Harris. I heard earlier today on the radio
Speaker 5: that Michael Harris has not drawn a walk since May
Speaker 5: tenth or early May. It's almost July. And it just
Speaker 5: seems like every at bat's almost the same. He's swinging
Speaker 5: at pitches that are closer to reaching the other team's
Speaker 5: look out then they already reaching the plate. Uh, Ozzie
Speaker 5: Albies just another guy who's underperforming. It's just but if
Speaker 5: you're a Braves fan, it's another day at the office.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were cooking there at the end. At the
Speaker 3: end here, brother, I wanted to want to let you
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Speaker 3: We're definitely looking forward having you there. I'll let I'll
Speaker 3: let Scotty know, you know, we had a good one.
Speaker 3: Make sure he he comes back and listens to this
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Speaker 3: two minutes or so. Final thoughts JD before I wrap.
Speaker 4: This one up, brother, fans, be better players, be better gamblers,
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