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doing great, Pete glad to be here. Awesome, awesome, Hey,
if you're here, let's talk about a little more about
the Spanish Civil War, and let's go in a completely
different direction than we've done before. When I read this,
I was like, Yeah, this information has to get out there,
because not only does it speak to the time they
were in, but I think it definitely speaks to a
lot of the conversations that we have now as far
as women in politics and conversations like that. So yeah,
I'll just let you go, all right.
Speaker 2: So, as in our last recording, my Spanish correspondent and
friend Morgor, he'd been helping me with some research and translation,
and then started he was really inspired by the assassination
of Charlie Kirk to talk about like a realistic perspective
on the similarities and differences between Spain of the thirties
and the United States now, as you know, as well
as just kind of the meta global kind of European
political scene. And so he keeps coming across all this
really interesting information and so he's been writing these articles.
I just apply a tiny bit of Polish to them
because some stuff doesn't translate perfectly from Spanish to English,
and so I'm just happy to be sharing those. But yeah,
this one is a banger Women in the Spanish Civil War,
and you know, putting together my substack article and you
can read this read along with us at Carldall dot
substack dot com. That's k A R L d a
h L dot substack dot com. And the subtitle I
is the natural order versus progressive delusion. So let's dive
right into it. I'll read along and Pete will pipe
up when he wants to add some comments. There will
be plenty more coming on this topic, including a full
article on one of the women who's mentioned herein and
as well as Largo Cabileiro, which is going to be
super interesting because there just isn't a ton of great
single source information about Largo Cabierro in English. That's awesome,
all right, great, So we begin women are important. No
matter what we say, think, or do. In our heart
of parts, we know that women are very important to
any healthy society or movement. We have all indulged in
comments about Foyd's women moments and whatnot, rightfully criticizing the
behavior and habits of the vast majority of modern women.
But we know that despite their behavior, flaws, and the
many things men cannot comprehend about them which transcends time,
women are important. This is a constant as true in
the past as it remains today, no matter how many
years go by or how our ideas may have changed.
A properly functioning movement needs both men and women. It
can be divided by gender subgroups for men and women,
as in the Pelong Hey, but we need places of
honor for both. I learned some time ago that a
man is a product of his experience, while a woman
is a product of her environment. This truism is illustrated
by the years leading up to and during the Spanish
Civil War, a tumultuous time of change with new ideas, mentalities,
and organizations which also changenged women in many different ways
during the last years of the dictatorship. In the early
years of the Republic, there was considerable growth in workers
unions and left wing associations. Initially, these groups focused upon
working men, as most women in Spain did not work.
Around twenty four percent of women were employed at the time,
with more than eighty percent of those being widows or single,
but most women during the late nineteen twenties joined Catholic
associations as well as welfare or mutual aid organizations because
at the time it would have been done privately in Spain,
in the United States, et cetera. So the rise of
left wing organizations and workers' unions in the nineteen thirties
saw a steady increase in the number of working women,
mainly from humble families from Andalusia, Austurias, Catalonia, and Basque Country,
who formed the main bulk of those organizations female membership,
along with outliers such as the occasional daughter of a
wealthy family, intellectuals or aspiring politicians, which are so common today.
As the left saw a steady rise in both manpower
and influence within the Republic, reactionary right wing organizations also
developed and grew their own institutions. These organizations began with
the old religious unions and welfare organizations, which could be
transformed into something new or elsewhere abandoned in favor of
a more fitting structure. The moderate right wing organizations allowed
female participation, but others like the Folongey did not allow
female membership. For this women created their own parallel all
female organizations as a complementary wing of the one they
wished to join. Such was the case of the Session
Feminina female section, which began as a students union, which
evolved into the support wing of the Phalonghey, led by
the scrumptious Plar Primo de Rivera, sister of Jose Antonio Primo.
Speaker 1: De Rivera, the leader of the Falangey.
Speaker 2: Most women who joined right wing organizations were religious women
from all walks of life, from college days, aged women
to daughters and wives from wealthy families and the nobility.
There was a substantial divide between the left and right
and how women contributed and took action. Each side bears
the names of important women who played significant roles. The
lovely Plar Primo de Rivera with her chud jaw and
Mercedes Salm baschilare So. Two great women of the Spanish
right were Mercedes San Bascilaire and the aforementioned Plar Primo
de Rivera. Mercedes Son Baschilaire founded the Auxilio Social or
Social Aid, which initially served as a welfare organization focused
upon poverty relief in the countryside via food says rationing,
but really provisioning at this stage closed distribution and providing healthcare.
When the civil war broke out, the Auxilio social expanded
into a support wing for the army and was soon
in charge of providing aid to the civilian population within
liberated zones through field kitchens, hospitals and the managed distribution
of rationed supplies. Pilar Primo de Rivera founded the Cession
Feminina or Female section support wing of the Palange mentioned before.
Their initial responsibilities focused upon communication with imprisoned Fhalonghey members,
propaganda and aiding the members the families of members of
the Falangey killed by the last of whom there were many.
When war broke out, the Cession Feminina grew into an
extremely important movement aiding the civilian population within the nationalist
zone in the same manner as the Auxilio sociol. These
two organizations, which eventually developed a rivalry, grew into immense
formal operations, with the Cession Feminina reaching nine hundred thousand
members by the end of the civil war. In the
post war Franco era, men were compelled into mandatory military service,
while women were required to engage in social service via
one or the other of these two organizations. While some
readers will understand neither the importance nor the dignity of
the women serving in these critical supporting roles, we cannot
deny their relevance in securing the final victory too.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, well, what's interesting about this is that, so
take the take the war in Vietnam. Okay, the United
States invades Vietnam, and any kind of help that's being
done in there is either going to be done, There'll
be feign a, there'll be there'll be Vietnamese who would
actually do it. It's really different this being a civil war.
Anyone coming in from the outside to help, you would
I mean, I would look at as with suspicion. Yes,
you know, because you this is a war where you
did have foreign you know, foreign outfits coming in. You
had foreign divisions coming in the United States, Germany, Russia,
there's i mean pretty much every England, France. You know.
It's really it's really important that you know, you have
women in a civil war, that it's women who are
from there, and you know, obviously they're going to choose sides.
I mean, someone with the last name Primo, you know,
with a with a minor ord Rivera is going to
be uh obviously on one side. So yeah, I just
thought i'd put that in there that if you're having
a civil war, you probably do not want any you'd
be hesitant to have volunt quote unquote volunteers coming in
on your side. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the uh, the the Republic had largely i
mean at the local level, women were essentially constrict conscripted
also into these like workers bands and everything. Uh. So
they they helped to some degree. We'll get into that
in a moment, but there to your point, there was
a significant bit of foreign aid where foreigners were doing
the distribution, and it was heavily Communist. There were some
religious I want to say it was the Quakers had
some fairly decent numbers, but it was nothing like mobilizing
the whole society in the way that the nationalists did.
So all right, so we have some nice propaganda posters here,
and as noted in the the kind of the script here,
the Spanish rights women were never delusional. They have women
supporting the men in the field and the women responding
to take care of Spain, you know, in response on
to the basically the refugee crisis in destroyed cities. So
it's the it's very good framing. So the remainder of
this article will focus upon the women of the lest
the left excuse me, of whom the most ardent, rabbit
and militant saw their dreams and delusions fade to dust
as the true goals of their movement were realized. Liberation
in quotes, drove them to destroy the virtue of other women.
Their ideals led them to be betrayed by everyone around them.
The moment reality set in this last is the case
of Clara Campo Amore, one of the first and perhaps
the most important feminists in Spain, a woman from a
humble family who, after a tremendous struggle, became a divorce
lawyer and eventually a politician in the moderate Left, in fact,
the first woman to serve in the Cortesse. During her
time as a politician, she worked tirelessly to gain voting
rights for women, a proposition that was ironically opposed by
fellow feminist politicians such as Victoria Kent and Margherita Nelkin
last name check, who stated that quote women brainwashed by
the church do not deserve the vote, lest we give
victory to the right.
Speaker 1: Unquote, you know when you know when someone says, oh,
you know, the whatever power you take, what you're in power,
when you're out of power, that whoever gets in power
is just going to use it against you. I mean
that's literally what I'm reading here. Yes, exactly, yep. I
mean I'm not saying I agree with that, especially with
the left in this country. I mean, when when has
the left ever needed and excused to increase their power
once they exactly?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: This statement may surprise some readers or listeners, but note
that many prominent interwar figures on the right promoted the
female franchise for that precise reason. Spanish women would eventually
achieve the franchise, with their first national engagement taking place
in nineteen thirty four, which the right won substantially. This
marked the end of Clara compo A Moore's reputation and
political career, as the nineteen thirty four electoral defeat caused
the left to actively disregard the issue of women's political rights.
Compoa Moore made an attempt to launch her own political party,
but her reputation was destroyed and joining another left wing
party was out of the question. She fled to France
shortly after the Civil War broke out, but not without
first witnessing and testifying to the lies of the leftist
government and the lack of order, discipline, and honor of
the leftist militias, who often confronted and murdered their own officers.
So there's frumpy Claudia who realized that it was all
in vain.
Speaker 1: You know, we just really have to thank leftists for
murdering their own officers. This just does the work. Yeah,
that's just work that doesn't have to be done.
Speaker 2: A nice compounding effect, all right, Okay, So the Newborn's
Second Spanish Republic of nineteen thirty one was one of
the most progressive governments in Europe regarding women's rights in
certain aspects. The constitution recognized women as eligible for public
service as well as the election to parliament, and in
nineteen thirty two, both civil union laws and a divorce
law were passed. That said, quote unquote, liberation was still
a long road ahead, as women faced severe disadvantages in
the labor market, such as explicit codified wage discrimination, a
lack of unemployment benefits in the unavailability of medical insurance. This,
coupled with the spirit of the time, led many single
working women, whether widows, mothers, or not, to form the
bulk of women supporting the left. The Spanish leftist political
parties of the time fit broadly into three groups, the
anarchists of the CNT, the Spanish Communist Party or PCE,
and the Socialist General Workers Union the UGT. During the
electoral era of the Republic, these three organizations didn't attract
a great number of female members, with their numbers barely
breaking five hundred at best. When the Civil War broke out,
these organizations saw an immense surge in female membership, with
the CNT gaining a peak of thirty thousand female members
in nineteen thirty eight, or about eighty percent of female
militants participating in the civil war, with about sixteen percent
of female militants in the PCEE the Communists, and the
remaining four percent in the UGT the Socialist General Workers Union.
Despite female enthusiasm for anarchism, the Communists controlled about forty
percent of all left wing committees, and the Soviets had
a lock on arms, distribution and leadership within the Republican
army and militias, which meant that all organizations would effectively
fall into the hands of the communists as the Civil
War or dragged on their claws sank in deeper. The
most prominent and influential left wing female organization during both
the Republic and the war was the Union des mu
Heris Antifascistas or Anti Fascist Women's Union the UMA, created
in nineteen thirty three by the Communist International GASP. This
organization was outlawed in Spain in nineteen thirty four after
the October Revolution or the Asturian Revolution Historian Uprising, etc.
But it was rebranded as pro Infantia Obrera or Working
Mother's Support, an organization which supported leftist militants affected by
or actively involved in the revolt of nineteen thirty four.
After the victory of the left quote unquote side note
stolen victory in nineteen thirty six elections, the PIO was
once again renamed the Anti Fascist Women's Union or UMA,
which received enormous support from the government. Again, this is
a communist organ When the Civil War began, the UMA
was officially incorporated into the government as the Commission dee
Ouchilio Feminino the Female Aid Commission, an organization directly under
the control of the Ministry of War and in charge
of organizing and distributing Spanish women within the war industry.
Speaker 1: When the war.
Speaker 2: Began, the UMA had around fifty thousand members and it
promoted the quote liberation of women through the worker's struggle
in order to transform society end quote. This organization saw
a sharp Declineman membership, however, when many women realized that
their duties were limited to support and manufacturing. There was
a similar trend among the PCEE and the UGT, who
firmly believed that women should only engage in support roles
aiding male soldiers. Meanwhile, the Worker's Party of Marxist Unification
or POUM, which was or Wells militia, advocated for allowing
women to join the fight on the front as staff
and drill sergeants, as well as engaging in logistics and
serving as quartermasters. This firm position on their role in
the war by the communists and socialists is likely the
main reason eighty percent of leftist women flocked to the anarchists,
women who yearned to take the fight to their purported
enemies to be truly equal with men, or perhaps they
were attracted by the extremely high wage of ten pisadas
which the anarchists paid the members of their militias. Interesting
and so I note here this is perhaps the most
famous image of Spanish Civil War girl power. Translator and
cutie pie Marina guiththena member of the Unified Socialist Youth
Org of the Spanish Communist Party an assistant to Mikhail
Koltsov Provda correspondent. Here she poses with a mauser in
Barcelona in July nineteen thirty six.
Speaker 1: T He women were sorry, amazing, It's amazing how many
women can get taken in by thinking that, like, I mean,
her clothes are brand new.
Speaker 2: She never held a rifle again for the rest of
the war. For the record, it was strictly propaganda.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was and it was oh she
she did this, and she did and she was executed
because she was such a she was such a powerful soldier. Okay, yeah, ok.
Speaker 2: She actually ran to France very quickly, but people couldn't
find her until she came forward in like the nineties
or something, right before she passed away. So she had
never seen the picture. Interestingly, or she claimed that she
had never seen the picture.
Speaker 1: So hilarious.
Speaker 2: Communist propaganda again, Pravda people. Women were also prominent within
the short lived Frente Popular Government of nineteen thirty six,
a government characterized by radical and detrimental left wing policies.
Most know of famed communist Dolores Iberruri, who controlled most
left wing parties in the quartes on behalf of the Soviets,
while the second most prominent Spanish female leftists was Frederica Monstani,
the first female minister in the cabinet of Largo Caballerro.
Her noteworthy achievements as Minister of Healthcare and Social Issues
for Barcelona were to decriminalize abortion and to aid those
who sought it, as well as to legalize prostitution as
part of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just, that's just helping in the war effort.
I mean, come on, it's it's wild. It's just I mean,
it's wild. It's just I mean, it's exactly what you
would think. It's I mean, it's another version of every
single time. Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: As part of her campaign to establish libertarian communism, she
pressured the republic to finance brothels, which soon led Barcelona,
the most important city within Republican territory, to become a
den of vice. And then here is the execrable frumpy,
disgusting Dolores Ibarori, who shouted to Jose Calvo Sotello the
day he was executed, this is your last speech in
the court tests. Once the civil war began, pardon me.
The Frente Popular Government quickly mobilized their organizations and members
against the Nationalist uprising, distributing weapons to the populace, mainly
through the labor unions, and incorporating the many leftist militias
into their squalid army. The mobilization received overwhelming support from
these organizations, with enormous participation by female combatants. During the
summer of nineteen thirty six, the image of the female
fighter became a staple in the Republic. These women were
motivated to join the fight for an array of stated motives,
leftist ideology, defending the rights they had gained during the Republic,
revenge for a dead relative or friend. Many joined up
with their husbands, boyfriends, and some even with their children.
Most women were initially assigned support duties in the army,
but an an immense number saw armed combat in one
way or another. The most surprising trend was the average
age of the female combatants sixteen years old and the
most common lifestyle these women came from, which later caused
both serious and even hilarious problems. So here is a
classic example of a CNT militia poster with a female
holding the flag, leading the men who kneel.
Speaker 1: Before her because she's so cool.
Speaker 2: A black and red flag. Yes, a black and red flag.
A squad of simps for every woman, the ultimate dream.
The inclusion of women at the front lines was heavily
supported by several female figures of the left, Dolores Ibururi
the most ardent among them, with others such as the
aforementioned anarchist Federica Monsni calling every every woman of the
left to join the fight against fascism. This call was
soon picked up by the Republican government as a powerful
propaganda tool to boost their recruitment among the civilian population.
The image of the fighting woman in uniform and armed
against the fascist became its main hook for recruitment drives.
In order to push men to fight on the front lines.
In the early months of the Civil war, the republic
constantly showed the image of the militia woman, enshrined her
as the quote heroine of the nation unquote, and luted
the women who moved with quote unquote manly demeanor to
push men to join their female comrades on the front
and take the fight to the enemy. As we know now,
this is not a winning strategy.
Speaker 1: It's just I'm I got nothing. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So here's an example Catalan flag black and red, anarchist
flag and a red communist flag with a woman saying
that the basically that the militants need us. The women
who joined the fight initially enjoyed special privileges in combat,
in addition to a gleaming reputation and public support. Women
were incorporated into the militias without specific orders, but within
the first few weeks they gained privileges above their prestige,
such as being quickly promoted or being capable of disregarding
orders from their superiors without consequence. By the end of
August nineteen thirty six, there were two female only battalions
within the Republic. Can you imagine, one in Mallorca and
the other in Asturias. Despite their prestige and the initial
ease of duty, the first cracks in this illusion began
to appear, both on the front lines and in the rear.
Many women filled the vacuum left by men joining the war.
By men joining the war to work in steel mills, foundries,
and the many factories whose workers were now in the
army are militias. The sudden influx of women in these
activities caused a clash between them and the men who
stayed in the rear, who often saw them as unfit
or unqualified to perform those jobs, as well as an
invasion of the workplace in fields which until then had
been only performed by men, and the women demanded the
same wages and better working conditions. Keep in mind, this
is a very militarized labor universe, so these are very
assertive people. If you've ever worked in a union shop
and you've seen scabs come in, this is exactly what
is taking place here.
Speaker 1: That's the perception.
Speaker 2: Shit. So despite their alleged ideological affinities, the men and
women at the factories began to bout heads, with the
men defending their territory which for so long had been
theirs alone, and the women bringing a battering ram to
attempt to demolish barriers to entry the most Sorry, go ahead,
there's a war going on. Let's turn it into a
labor issue. Well, I mean yeah, exactly. And and if
we see this now, where like leftist labor unions are
you know, pushing diversity in which breaks up cohesion and
allows for you know, cuts in wages and everything like that.
And it's just this this conflict that just has no
choice but to explode right there on the surface. And
like he said, there's a war going on, so imagine this.
The most striking and extreme problems between men and women
happened on the front lines. Initially, the gleaming reputation of
the militia women held, but the propaganda primarily attracted more
women than men, and the women were as concerned with
breaking the old and tested gender roles as they were
with joining the fight.
Speaker 1: What a surprise.
Speaker 2: Several women became legendary Republican war heroes, such as Lena
Odena casil Da Mendez and Margharita Perez. But a radical
paradigm shift began in October of nineteen thirty six, barely
three months into the Civil War, when radical socialist Francisco
Largo Caballero became head of the government and sought to
directly manage the war. His approach to the war was
not ideological, but very pragmatic surrounded himself with career officers
and generals who strengthened the position of professional military officers
in the field. This was the beginning of the end
for the militia women, as at the time, a number
of glaring problems with women on the front lines arose,
which ultimately led to the Largo Caballero government barring them
completely from combat roles. The greatest challenge was that many
men saw the militia women as unfit, unprepared, and unqualified
as combatants, particularly the Republican officer corps who had been
military professionals before the Civil War broke out. This created
a wide rift between the military command and ideologically driven
militia members who sided with their female peers. A second
issue stem from the reputation militia women developed, as many
of them were held in higher esteem among the militia
than the professional officers, and thus the militias followed their
orders rather than those of their superiors. Oh yeah, what
a surprise. This led many units to clash directly with
their officers and sometimes even murder their superiors, which led
some career officers who had remained loyal to the Republic
to defect to the nationalists rather than lead troops who
might kill them over a disagreement. And I think it's
also like they've realized what was going on. This trend,
on top of how unprepared the average militia member was
for actual combat, whether a man or a woman, led
to an extreme combat ineffectiveness in the early months of
the year, only mitigated by their sheer numbers. So here
is a Catalan propaganda poster after the pivot to reality.
No more girl power, it's anti fascist women, get sewing
and taken care of sick kids and or wounded soldiers.
Speaker 1: Maybe get to those brothels and make yourself useful.
Speaker 2: That will pop up again here in just a moment.
As a matter of fact, ultimately, these issues and the
lack of manpower in critical industry and support roles ended
the fantasy of plucky militia women fighting both the nationalists
and gender norms. As noted previously, this is so funny
that I just can't help but laugh while I'm reading it.
As noted previously, many women supported the war effort on
the factory production lines, but not enough, and without properly
functioning factories, the republic would run dry. Of weapons, munitions, supplies,
and food. Very quickly, understanding the severity of this problem,
Largo Cabeiro gave the order to withdraw all women from
the front lines and that they be assigned to work
in support roles at hospitals.
Speaker 1: And field kitchens.
Speaker 2: This decision was accepted by all of the parties political
parties which supported the Republic, and was spun to appease
women so that they didn't feel they'd abandoned the front.
Dolores Iberui spoke of women as quote motherly heroes unquote,
and hoped they would mobilize to the factories and hospitals
to fight there for a better future for their husbands
and children. Even anarchists organizations, those who had promoted putting
women on the front lines the most, began to speak
about the quote unquote true femininity of women, possessed of
a quote delicate softness unique to female psychology unquote, and
that they should oppose violence in every way and support
them soldiers with quote unquote motherly care. This radical shift
was seen as a terrible betrayal by countless women, particularly
the anarchists, who remained outspoken about their quote unquote rights
to be in the front to be on the front
alongside their male peers. Despite the Republic's orders, or perhaps
because of them, the anarchists refused to withdraw women from
the front lines. I should say some did, which caused
big problems.
Speaker 1: Who would think that, like anarchists would be against taking orders?
Imagine being led? That's I'm shocked. It's delightful.
Speaker 2: The anarchist versus republic struggles are the funniest imaginable because
of the sheer volume of dead anarchists who resulted. All right,
the final, lesser known reasons for the withdrawal of women
from the front lines are definitely the most interesting and
perhaps hilarious. As explained previously, a certain type of women
joined the anarchist militias in droves shortly after the war
broke out, women from a particular and not very wholesome
way of life, A plurality of leftist female recruits. Around
forty five percent of the women who joined the fight
were prostitutes. This was narrated by the aforementioned Clara Compoamore
in her book La revolocion Espanola vistapor Una Republicana Spanish
Revolution witnessed by a Republican women she wrote in the beginning,
more dire events took place. Ready to take advantage of
this situation, all women of quote unquote joyful life, yes,
which was heavily promoted by these feminist heroes. And my
theory is like, if you look at the sows that
promote the stuff, they're just like imagining like men coming
to them and which just would not happen because they're gross.
Oh sorry, sorry for the diversion. Okay, joyful life, whom
war doomed to a life of unemployment, disappeared from the
cities and joined along many others who fought in the
militia with respectable feelings and sincere faith. I can imagine
as a consequence the frenzy which took hold of the
front lines and how many soldiers had to be hospitalized.
This revelation became the main weapon to destroy the reputation
of the women fighting with the militias, as the politicians
soon had no qualms about saying that they were prostitutes
and made public the fact that on certain fronts, men
were sent to the sick bay more often for STDs
than being shot.
Speaker 1: Who could have no one could have predicted this at all, right, most.
Speaker 2: Of the women who joined the military were outraged by
this campaign that sought to shame them in the eyes
of the public, with the most vocal declaring at calumny
from the quote horrific patriarchal leadership unquote of the Republic.
Some politicians who participated in the campaign to drive compliance
with the Republic's orders openly addressed the fact that certain
camps on the front lines had become little more than
whorehouses for soldiers. The most prominent it was the psychologist
and politician Felix Martis Ibanez, who made great guitars and
who claimed that most of the women in the militia
used their time on the front lines to quote mercantilize
their bodies unquote, violating.
Speaker 1: Male chastity.
Speaker 2: For their own gain and and quote robbing men of
their magnificent energy reserves.
Speaker 1: This is like, this is like something literally out of
if you were doing like parody.
Speaker 2: In cell oh my god like literature. And and it's
because it's it's it's Bolshevik, it's Bolshevik talking points. And
this is that it's not detailed here, it's heavily detailed
in everything about this period and the pivot from that
kind of free for all, like purist dream state is,
you know, socialist, communist anarchist propaganda push at the very beginning,
and then they had to pivot to actually focus on
the war. And the way to focus on the war
is to be serious and to follow military leadership, which
rolled everyone under. The communists and the Catalonia and the
anarchists didn't bend the knee until like mid nineteen thirty seven,
which is where you get like orwell talking about being
hunted by the NKVD in Barcelona as they were cracking
down on these militias that were resisting, and even the
CNT leadership that the anarchist the biggest anarchist party leadership
bent the knee, their most fervent killers, and like the
Drudi column were pushing for this as well, like get serious,
stop being ideological until the.
Speaker 1: War is won and then we can settle it that.
You know, by this time in Russia, Stalin had taken
care of most of the people who were talking like this,
you know, like who were doing the the oh women's
lib kind of stuff. You know, all this crap right here. Oh,
Stalin was just pretty much just making sure that they
disappeared and It is actually one of the things that
Trotsky's son complained about the most. Trotsky's son had bought
into all this, and it's like, keep your head down, dude,
because you saw what happened to You're dead right. What
was name? Oh I forget Leon set Off. Yeah, that's right.
I had a look at ubly On set Off. Yeah,
it's like he was he was be doing that in
the thirties. No, that Stalin was already like okay, if
you start coming up, no, no, that's why. I can
just imagine what the what the Soviet advisors were thinking
when they were seeing all of this.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, it's probably something they'd seen a million times,
but it's.
Speaker 1: So I mean, it was it was disappearing quickly in Russia.
I mean, Russia was already going on to their their
empire footing at that point. So they were everybody's like, oh,
the purges and everything. You know, when once you read
Suvarof and Hoffmann, you realize the purges were getting rid
of the revolutionaries. They just wanted soldiers. They wanted like,
you know, generals who weren't revolutionaries, generals who you know,
could go into battle, and these revolutionaries who were just
lining people up and killing them. Well, they sort of
got their just recompense in many cases at that point.
It's why it's wild stuff.
Speaker 2: So yeah, with this war became again a task only
for men, and women were sent back to the rear.
Disobedience was treated with all martial severity, and by the
middle of October the presence of women on the front
lines began to steadily decline. By December nineteen thirty six,
the international volunteers of the International Brigades were warned that
women were barred from combat and from joining the brigades.
By February nineteen thirty seven, women disappeared from the Republican Army.
Speaker 1: Many joined the Let's hold up here for a second.
So basically, about three months into the war, Cabaetro starts
to phase say, we need to get women off the
front line. Those first three months, the first six months really,
but the first three months we're talking about the most
brutal time, especially especially if you were a Catholic, especially
if you were clergy or a seminarian or a layman
or something like that. So you know, you have to
I would assume that the women had a big part.
That was a big part.
Speaker 2: Of one hundred percent. It has to be because it
was the most extreme militants. And when you look at
those pictures of destruction of churches and statues and like,
you know where they're basically going in and killing everybody,
women are female militants are very prominent in those in
those images.
Speaker 1: It's wild. Many joined.
Speaker 2: Many women joined the production lines in Barcelona and Valencia,
an event which would later cause many calls for equality
in the workplace, since they, despite the progressiveness of the Republic,
suffered wage discrimination as well as hostility from their male peers.
They also demanded permanent contracts and anticipation of the end
of the war and the return of men to the
factories so that they couldn't be fired or replaced.
Speaker 1: Can you believe that? I mean, you know, Rosie the Rivet,
I don't. I wonder how many Rosies wanted to actually
stay and keep their jobs because it was, you know,
at the end of the war, it was like, yeah,
go home.
Speaker 2: And how much of that was like yeah, exactly how
much of it was real and how much of it
was like one loud mouth, yeah, was just making the
demands and you know, women being women, all going in
and supporting it. Yeah, good times. So wrapping up here
we got two more paragraphs. Note the stark difference between
the women of the right and the left. By taking
up critical support and administration of duties that men did
not occupy, nationalist women made the army and the liberated
regions work like a well oiled machine. Meanwhile, the women
on the left, in their pursuit of personal and ideological goals,
often became a hindrance, which caused problems for the Republican
war effort. When every person counts, those who antiagonize their
peers disrupt harmony and everyone's contributions to the struggle. This
is clearly prevalent among leftist women, both one hundred years
ago and today. We know them on site, the women
who don't seek to work alongside men, but instead to
cast them down, confident in their superiority. You know the type,
and you know they must be avoided. Like a nugget
of pyrite. It is not worth a second look. So
Fool's gold. I began the Now and Then series in
reaction to the murder of Charlie Kirk as I'd seen
parallels to the assassination of calv Sotello brought up quite
a few times, and I wanted to provide lesser known
details regarding the murder and its aftermath. The more I
revisit Spanish primary sources regarding the Civil War, I decided
to continue researching and sharing my findings with those interested.
One thing is certain, despite how much time has passed,
how many well documented mistakes were made by the left
in the intervening period, and how things in our world
seem to have changed, the left are still the same.
With the branding of Antifa as a terrorist organization in
the US and the reaction to the murder of Kirk,
both in the intermediate after math and now immediate after
math and now rather we see ardent leftists openly mock
as murder leftists who carry the same spirit found in
the speeches of leftist figures of the Republic. The left
of today carries the same bloodthirsty spirit seen since the
beginning of the twentieth century. I was nearly surprised by
how the adage quote the more things change, the more
they stay the same unquote still rings true. With this
in mind, I will be writing a couple more articles
about the most important leftist figures of the Spanish Republic,
so that you can understand their motives, their drives, and
most importantly, their character, because to invoke another adage, you
must know your enemy.
Speaker 1: To defeat him. Elphine, it is you know, I want
to go back up to this part right here, there's
clearly prevalent. This is cooer plevalent amongst leftists women both
one hundred years ago and today. We know them on site,
women who don't seek to work alongside men, but instead
to cast out how many times in quote unquote, I
mean in like the right circles, even like yeah, right circles.
Do these women come in all based, all say in
the right things. But eventually, you know what happens, Eventually
the feminism comes out, Eventually the leftism comes out, Eventually
the woman comes out. I mean, sorry, women should not
be in leadership? Is I look at what look at
Nikki Haley and all these women on the right, Nancy
Mace Well, I mean, in what world do you look
at those women and go, yeah, I want them to lead?
Is there a woman you could think of that you're like, yeah,
they should be leading men? Oh?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not, Like it's it's completely absurd because it's all
about them, and then the most important you know, especially
among conservatids, the most important thing is conserving like ridiculous
Left is victories. Like Nancy Mace. Her claim to fame
is that she was the first female allowed into vm A.
Her father was the commandant and she basically like ruined
that organization because it just was.
Speaker 1: All about her.
Speaker 2: And every picture that she puts up is a you know,
basically a thirst trap from someone who doesn't like instill
thirst except among like boomers who watch Fox News. But
it's it's insane and it's all about them and not
about the mission.
Speaker 1: And I mean, you know, when you when you understand
where we are. Yeah, we were talking about this, Yeah,
I mentioned this before we before we started recording. That
as we were starting to record, or In was live
streaming and he was just on fire, just going up.
Does not want to win. They were always our enemies.
They would rather talk about group chats than win elections.
Why are you dealing with these people anymore? You know?
They they sure you're not going to win in New York,
but at least you in New York City, but at
least have somebody who can put a message out there
that would you know, that's a counter to it instead
of I mean Curtis Sliwa. I remember seeing this guy
on the subway when I was growing up. I mean,
he was just grifter. They used to fake events where
he'd be like, oh, look what we did, and it
would just fake events that he would save people from.
And then Chris Cuomo, or is it yeah, Chris Cuomo,
I mean just I mean a degenerate loser. And or
what about Virginia. You have basically a ci age and
who's running and you put up a woman, a black
woman who was born was born in another country. I think,
I'm not really sure, but she's I mean she's not
She's not on the right. I mean some of them
at least fake being on the right. She's not on
the right. And then you you aren't able to counter
anyone for the age in Virginia who basically says, yeah,
I mean I will shoot white I will shoot white children.
I will kill white children because that's what we do.
And you you want to be taken, but you want
to talk about Tucker who Tucker Carlson has on his
show and make a big deal out of that, and
then you want to cancel the heritage Foundation, which I mean,
come on, when the last when the last boomer stops
sending the money, no one else is going to So
basically at this point, at this point, they're just looting
boomers because they know they're gone as soon as the
last boomer is gone. And who else you know, who else? Oh,
you know obviously the Jewish lobby who is I mean
just absolutely lost their minds. Absolutely, I mean nothing they
say makes any sense whatsoever. They clearly say that, yeah,
if you want to be an American, you have to
support Israel. If you don't support Israel, you're not an American.
Who the fun are you? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And like, speaking of the Heritage Foundation today, someone you know,
some I don't know, some galician lawyer type was ranting
and raving because they leaked audio of a call where
a Catholic staffer at the Heritage Foundation said, basically, it's
ridiculous to force to compel us to go to these
like sader Dinners, which is, oh, yeah, there's a religious
what religious Jewish religious practice?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was some Jewish some Jewish group like
was laying out for Heritage how they could weed out
all the anti Semites by setting up like a like
a Chabbat dinner every week and see who comes to it. Yeah, yeah,
it doesn't come to it. You get rid of them,
are you? What are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 2: Which is just like okay, so you're literally just telling
us that you like, we control everything, or you're not
allowed to exist.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Yeah, if if they if they
are not bow if you if they're not bowing to Jews,
then they're they're not right wing. Basically they're not conservative, Okay.
I mean I would say that if you're bowing to Jews,
you're probably that's probably the most conservative value you can
have now, because that's all they seem to do and
have been doing.
Speaker 2: That's why they exist, and that's that they're like, these
are all people who are anti Trump and people the
vast majority of people who supported Trump in his third
successful election are people who aren't Trump cultists. They're people
who want the things that he promised. They want America first,
they want to make America great again, et cetera. And
these people are refusing to go along with it, and
they're already gloating, they're celebrating, they're focusing on like basically
crashing and burning that ascended movement to steer us back
to losing conservati artism, which has no appeal to anyone,
Like who's going to be alive in ten years? Like,
there's no appeal to that. It's it's a joke, you know,
other than like two percent of the population, Only two
percent of the population wants it, a very specific two
percent of the population.
Speaker 1: Anybody who's working at one of these, you know, basically
Shavaskoy organizations, they have to really if they don't realize
that their days are just numbered because they're not gens.
Who's who's going to support them? Gen Z, gen X,
gen X, I mean millennials maybe probably not gen Z
is not going to do it. They already fucked themselves,
how much think about it. They're they're relying upon money
from the Boomer generation. Which other generation has as much
money as the Boomer generation.
Speaker 2: None, not even the rest combined don't even have a fraction.
Speaker 1: They're fucked. They're fucked there there, They are irrelevant at
this point, and they just don't know it. They're dead
man walking and they don't know it. They don't have anything.
The only thing that they could do is to embrace us,
is would be like, Okay, we see where this is going.
I mean, basically where we're going is we're going to
far right and far left. Yes, and let's bring this
back home, which is why we're talking about the Spanish
Civil War ing ding.
Speaker 2: In nineteen I posted about this today in nineteen thirty four.
The pyrrhic victory, the piric electoral victory of nineteen thirty
four by the right. The right coalition under say the
and some other parties did nothing for the right. The
Republic illegally would not permit them to form a cabinet
and take charge of the government in the fashion that
was in you know, specified by the constitution. And so
with that, the younger members of this political coalition, this
right wing political coalition, left in droves for the most
militant organizations, the Falonghey and the Carlist Recutees, and basically
said the only thing left to do now.
Speaker 1: Is to fight.
Speaker 2: That's where all the best people and the best young
leaders went. They went right into the fight and began
preparing seriously for a post political world, a world outside
of like the Cortes and the drama and the maschinations
of the you know, parliamentary government and this in America.
It's even worse because in Spain at the time, the
right wing was actually like the right wing leadership and
money people you know, in these groups began to build
up these groups because they realized that war was coming,
that that was the only thing that was left because
there was so much violence in the street in America.
Like look at like Mike Johnson and other dorks like that,
like they should have no political power. The only reason
Mike Johnson has any political power is because of people
voting for Donald Trump because they want nationalism, and they're saying,
you're not going to get nationalism. You're going to get
sold down the river. You're gonna be unemployable. You're gonna
all this money for having gone to college. You should
have just been a plumber. While the left builds up
their supporters, gets them jobs, gets them free money. Like
the right basically says, you have to support us for
ideological reasons. Oh and by the way, those ideological reasons
are that are you know, lead to you getting fucked,
But you got to do it because Israel. Yeah, otherwise
you're hitler. You know when people were when when Aorn
was talking yesterday about what fuent has was what he
actually was, what he is. Many people who refuse to
understand nuance were flipping out. You have gropers who are
flipping out, But gropers don't really care about anything. They
just worship Nick fuent has. You have people on the
right who I think mean well most of the time,
who like spicy things that Fuentes says about certain things,
and they seem as very popular, so they don't want
to talk against him. But Fuentes is an entertainer, That's
what he is.
Speaker 1: He's not.
Speaker 2: You know, he's all over the place, and he's not
like the way I look at it is. The Tucker
interview with him was a paternalistic show of like care
where Tucker brought him on and basically said, I'll let
you talk, but I'm going to point out things that
I take issue with.
Speaker 1: But he did.
Speaker 2: It in a way where you know that he actually cares.
He doesn't want to slander him, He doesn't want to
attack him or his viewers or the people who listen
to him. Like most most people who have a like
a completely positive view of Nick Fuentes don't know a
lot of his history, or they only see little clips
of him here and there, and they're mostly concerned with
like Israel and stuff like that, or they're just like
Fuentes worshiping croupers right like.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 2: There's very little in between. Other people have nuanced views
on him, and so when Aurn's talking about you have
to understand what he is.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: The biggest reaction I saw against that wasn't from groupers
or even you know, like people who have a nuanced
or even distracted view of what he is. It was
from these you know, Jewish supremacists who are freaking out
because they're like, no, you have to call him a
Nazi and like, you know, push him out and expel
him from what you're doing. And it's like he's what
he's doing is he's intelligently explaining, like what is taking
place in front of us, and you can't do that.
That's not allowed. You have to be a retard. You
have to just like obey, you have to fall on
your hands and knees and obey. It's really quite incredible.
Speaker 1: What scares them the most is the fact that there
are already so many of the young staffers and everything
or agree with him. Oh yeah, are basically groper's and
you know, what he was saying on his show yesterday
was look, start hiding, hide your power levels, get offline,
you know, do what you gotta do, get in government,
and just you know, subvert these people. Yeah, yeah, you know,
and once they you know, these people just do not
understand that they their days are numbered. Not and not
because not for any nefarious reason. It's because they're an
aron They're an anachronism. Yes, yeah, they just this isn't
their world anymore. And nobody can. You know, most people
look at the average person looks at Israel and sees
what they've been doing for the last few years, and
they're like, don't we fight a war. It wasn't there
like this huge war to stop stuff like this from happening, now,
you know. I mean I'm not really one of a
big fan of oh, you know, I'm not a fan
at all of Oh they're they're like Nazis and everything
like that, but they are no nationalists and they they
basically they're like, Okay, well, you know, we have this
group of people here that we, you know, are beneath us,
and we're going to kill them and I mean for
what other for what reason? Because they were there, their
families were on the land there for forever. You have
some kind of ethnic grievance because of what I mean,
I just don't get it. All I know is is
that I don't they their days are numbered. Oh yeah,
and for no other reason. And I'm not saying, you know,
it's like because oh they're about to be overthrown. It's
because they're gonna they're gonna be crushed under their own weight.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a few. Yeah, it has nothing to do
It has nothing to do with this. They always say.
The most vocal retards among them will say that, like
anti Semitism is inherent to the European genome.
Speaker 1: And it's like, what.
Speaker 2: That's that's totally untrue. That's completely untrue. The opposite, the
opposite is true. You get you get too many chances,
and you hate us, like based on their behavior, like
all they had to do, they could have milked this forever,
but instead they had to crush to crush us in
America and like attempt to dispossess us and then gloat
about it and say, we just got you to fight,
you know, two decades for our purposes. Uh, And you
have to do that forever. You're not allowed to say no,
not that has nothing to do with you know, our
people's response to that isn't inherent. It's a response to
the conditions that you're imposing upon them. It's hilarious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, when you I was saying this,
Doctor Johnson and I recorded episode eighty five of Two
hundred Years together about you know, like three hours ago,
and we were talking about how like the Russians were like, Okay,
we've been pushed off our land and now Jews have
moved in mm hmm. And the question is is where's
where's all this anti semitism coming from in the nineteen
twenties And they're answering the question. He's answering the question
in the text and he's using he's using Jewish sources
to answer that. Yes, answer the question. And it's like, well,
how is it any different now you're give him billions
and billions and billions, and you're financing a war and
you're dropping bombs for Israel when people here can't afford
a house. Yes, I mean where people just people need
help here where you have you know, some people are
losing their jobs because Ai. You know, I've talked to
coder's contact me all the time and they're like, I'm like,
I'll try, I'll try, you know, try to help all
I can and everything. But everyone's like, well, I mean
what takes them a day to do? I can do it,
you know in five minutes. Well, you know with a
twenty dollars a twenty dollars a month scription subscription yep.
So it's like and then you you demand our loyalty. Yeah,
come here back. I mean, you tell us, you tell us, Oh,
those who bless Israel will be where the fuck are
the blessings? Man? So they've been bowing down to you
since since nineteen forty eight, really nineteen sixty seven, on
call it nineteen seventy three. We've been bowing down to you,
bending over backwards, doing everything's possible that you.
Speaker 2: Ask, did America get to the when did the less start?
Speaker 1: Are we just not filo semitic enough? We need to
be more filo semitic? Then the blessings will start the.
Speaker 2: Fuck filo semitic and hell we're dead and our people
are gone and Christianity is wiped off of the earth.
That's when we'll be philosmitic enough for them.
Speaker 1: I can't I can't stand it. Then, well, I mean,
and I can't say that it's not like, Okay, this
isn't affecting me personally, you know. I mean, if I search,
maybe I can find some way. That's really fucking insulting,
and it's it's insulting for those of us who like,
this country is all we have. Yeah, we have nowhere
else to go. They have somewhere else to go. They
have some place they built, someplace they can escape to.
But I mean, the whole purpose of this is you know,
it's like you know, a certain painter said, and you know,
Francis Parker Yaki said, they're not going to go there. No,
the diaspora is what's most important. It's the it's the
Jewish billionaires in this country is what keeps them, is
what you know. And all the lobbying to steal money
from us to send to them, That's that's it. That's
the problem. Is not the problem that Israel exists, it's
that the diaspora exists. And of course it's not all Jews.
But I mean, let's start with the billionaires. Let's start
with let's start with the you know, like the bill
Ackmans of the world, and let's start with it. And
I don't know that. I don't think Josh Hammer is
a billionaire, but the Josh Hammers of the world, and
you know, the the Larry Ellison's of the world.
Speaker 2: This is the problem that a Jewish woman complaining about
the left becoming anti Semitic in saying, the entire left
is was created by us, like every ideology and the
leader of every movement and everything was Jewish, and you're
you don't appreciate us enough for that.
Speaker 1: It's like, well you said it. Yeah, it's like, I mean,
you know, what's that Daily Forward or Daily Stormer? Yes, exactly.
I mean, seriously, are you exactly what are you trying
to do here?
Speaker 2: Cartoonish? Cartoonish?
Speaker 1: Oh man, it's so ridiculous. But anyway, I gotta get
out of here, yep. And I'm sure you probably do. Uh,
you probably got got stuff to do too. But and
I really, uh, I always appreciate these episodes because I
think they're they're probably I think people can see and
listen and make the correlations. It's not going to be
exactly the same. Obviously, we're not a halfolic country. We're not.
I mean, but you know, open your eyes. Yeah, yeah,
you'll see it. You'll see it. Yeah. Tell people where
they find your stuff now.
Speaker 2: All right, best place is a substack where this article resides.
Carldall dot substack dot com. That's k A R L
D a h L dot substack dot com. I have
two books on Amazon, Faction and Faction with the Crusaders
by Book, and I'm also on the healthscape known as X,
the platform stupidly renamed X.
Speaker 1: Happy to be here.
Speaker 2: Thanks again, Pete, see you very soon.
Speaker 1: See you soon. Thank you, Thanks
Speaker 2: You,