Speaker 1: The ignorant hits on the campuses, talk about it. They're
Speaker 1: just getting away with all this. We're rather than knowing facts.
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Speaker 2: of the show today. Looking forward to seeing everyone, and
Speaker 2: been looking forward to this moment in time all morning
Speaker 2: when I saw him on the rundown. Welcome back to
Speaker 2: the Morning show, Alex Chanceafilo, head of the Ohio Republican Party.
Speaker 2: That's a pleasure to have you on the Morning show.
Speaker 1: Brian, Good morning, sir, good to be with you.
Speaker 2: Did you have a particularly thankful Thanksgiving this year, sir.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I certainly did. I, As I've told
Speaker 1: a lot of friends, this is the most enjoyable post
Speaker 1: election period of my career. We obviously had a very
Speaker 1: good night here in Ohio, an excellent night actually, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm thankful for good things. But you know, Brian, much
Speaker 1: like yourself, I know I see you on social and
Speaker 1: I know a little bit about you. I'm grateful to
Speaker 1: have a wonderful family and a hugely supportive and solid,
Speaker 1: loving family. That's that's all around me. And that's really, Brian,
Speaker 1: what ultimately matters, my friend, You and I both know
Speaker 1: and that that was great watch a little football. None
Speaker 1: of it any good. You know, all the teams I
Speaker 1: cared about went down, but uh, you know, Ohio State
Speaker 1: loses the Michigan, the Bengals take another painful loss, the
Speaker 1: Bearcats get beat, so I know that the hat trick
Speaker 1: of bad.
Speaker 2: You know, it's tough being a football fan here in
Speaker 2: Ohio of late, But anyway, the games have been enjoyable.
Speaker 2: I've enjoyed watching football more this year, I think than
Speaker 2: any year of my life, in spite of the fact
Speaker 2: that most of the teams that I support are losers.
Speaker 2: I'm just starting to enjoy the game. Maybe it's my
Speaker 2: old age kicking in, but anyhow, Yes, and you're right,
Speaker 2: I'll double down on your on your your noting thanks
Speaker 2: for wonderful family. I mean without family, I don't know, well,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be I wouldn't be alive right now without
Speaker 2: my wife and family. So, without further ado, one of
Speaker 2: the reasons that Thanksgiving was so wonderful in addition to
Speaker 2: making a break from a ridiculous diet and enjoying pecan
Speaker 2: pie made by my wife. Nobody taught politics, and it
Speaker 2: was a glorious thing. We all just sort of just
Speaker 2: smiled and chatted and remembered and had stories to tell
Speaker 2: and what we were doing in our lives. And that
Speaker 2: was a refreshing experience. And I feel a little lighter
Speaker 2: after the election is over, because I really and I
Speaker 2: don't know how you felt, or those in your inner
Speaker 2: circle felt, but I think most of my listeners, because
Speaker 2: I've heard from so many of them, were really concerned
Speaker 2: about the day after and that it was going to
Speaker 2: some sort of riot in the street kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Most notably, and I want to just get your reaction
Speaker 2: on this point on that if Trump had not won
Speaker 2: the popular vote, they would have been screaming in the
Speaker 2: streets about getting rid of the electoral college.
Speaker 1: Right. Oh, here it happens again.
Speaker 2: The popular vote went for you know, Kamala Harrison. Nonetheless,
Speaker 2: the electoral college bubble burst nothing. The silence is deafening,
Speaker 2: and it's beautiful, and it just it just it was
Speaker 2: like a tremendous weight had been lifted off my shoulders.
Speaker 2: Out about over the abundance of concerent learned that I
Speaker 2: had been keeping internally.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I agree, and you know the noise that
Speaker 1: I experienced eight years ago actually, and I won't recount
Speaker 1: the whole story, but I was. I was an elector
Speaker 1: for President Trump even eight years ago, meaning I was
Speaker 1: one of you know, at the time, seventeen or I
Speaker 1: think it was seventeen people that went to the Electoral College,
Speaker 1: and I was inundated with calls and emails and letters
Speaker 1: sent to me saying ignore the will of Ohio voters
Speaker 1: and do not, let you know, do not name Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: That noise was overwhelming and really pushing back. And I've
Speaker 1: heard none of that. I mean, I really think, Brian,
Speaker 1: I really my observation of this election cycle was, especially now,
Speaker 1: the nation got a major course correction, and you're seeing
Speaker 1: and I mean you see things like AOC stripping her
Speaker 1: bio of her chosen pronouns, right, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: the Democrats are saying, gosh, we went too far, too fast,
Speaker 1: something we've been saying forever. And you know, I said
Speaker 1: for really a year, especially as the Ohio chairman, because
Speaker 1: I would get these calls saying, well, you know, it's
Speaker 1: not a swing state anymore. And I would say, listen,
Speaker 1: it's not that the state has changed that dramatically. Our
Speaker 1: populations haven't shifted. The Democrats shifted. They they left the
Speaker 1: mainstream of American politics. And you're seeing it now, you know,
Speaker 1: from some of the gray hairs in their party. James Carville.
Speaker 1: I saw something with Ron mcmanuel saying, you know, we've
Speaker 1: we've lost our way. We've been saying that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I you know, the Democrats used to talk about kitchen
Speaker 1: table issues as well, and we would have a healthy debate,
Speaker 1: you know, Brian, about how to split up the American pie,
Speaker 1: how to how to make the best use of this
Speaker 1: this wonderful capitalist system of ours, and that stopped that
Speaker 1: that the Democrats have walked away. They don't even believe
Speaker 1: in the system anymore. It seems to me most Democrats,
Speaker 1: you know, barely sort of support the Constitution and patriotism
Speaker 1: in the Statue of Liberty. So you know, it's that's
Speaker 1: that's where they are. And you know they've paid a
Speaker 1: price for at the poll. So uh, you know, we've
Speaker 1: seen we've seen a shift here over the last month
Speaker 1: where I think even Democrats are chasened a bit, and
Speaker 1: they know that, you know, they know that they have
Speaker 1: to find themselves back to the center of American politics.
Speaker 1: So this is going to continue to happen.
Speaker 2: Amen, And I guess the mere fact that although I
Speaker 2: know he is going to be sworn in as president,
Speaker 2: he is the next president Donald Trump. They no longer
Speaker 2: have that whipping boy that they would card out literally
Speaker 2: every other word in any subject matter they were talking about.
Speaker 2: You know, the Congress accent fails, the passive piece of legislation.
Speaker 2: What's Trump's fault, Well, he's not in offense, A mean,
Speaker 2: it's trumps fault. Trump tromp tump, tump t Trump. And
Speaker 2: they tried to build it up so much and make
Speaker 2: people feel so guilty for even uttering the man's name
Speaker 2: with anything positive to say about him. People shut their mouths,
Speaker 2: kept quiet and low, and behold, he got elected president,
Speaker 2: and he got elected by the majority of the people
Speaker 2: in the country. On top of it, so boom, the
Speaker 2: whole argument is gone, and leaving them with what nothing
Speaker 2: other than to recalibrate, readjust and realize that the majority
Speaker 2: of American people are not woke, They're not in favor
Speaker 2: of DEI they're not in favor of defunding police, not
Speaker 2: in favor of decriminal the system. We've all witnessed the
Speaker 2: aftermath of those ridiculous policies that have been embraced over
Speaker 2: the past four to six years. Man, it's h it's
Speaker 2: it's I'm sorry. I'm just really enjoying on a sort
Speaker 2: of a Shodenfreude kind of level right now. Except for
Speaker 2: Hamilton County. I can ask you about that one. Is
Speaker 2: it too late? And I part of me wants to think,
Speaker 2: you know, and we can talk about some of the
Speaker 2: larger issues JD. Vans for example here Alex. But you know,
Speaker 2: Hamilton County, I went to bed knowing that it was
Speaker 2: all blue. We lost the prosecutor, we didn't get the
Speaker 2: shareff we got. You know, we all knew what the
Speaker 2: outcome of the other races was going to be, you know,
Speaker 2: depending on where they were. But blue, blue, blue, blue,
Speaker 2: blue all across. But as you look out over the landscape,
Speaker 2: and you know, sort of like the discussion we're having
Speaker 2: right now, people are rejecting, they are reversing, they are
Speaker 2: going back on what used to work. The bluest cities
Speaker 2: in the country are screaming their bloody heads off over
Speaker 2: the resources being allocated to the illegal immigration flow. They're
Speaker 2: screaming about their neighborhoods being taken over by drug addicts
Speaker 2: and drug dealers, all the stores being closed because no
Speaker 2: one prosecutes a crime for stealing, stores are closing. It's
Speaker 2: in the citizen rea. The Democrats who elected the woke
Speaker 2: officials to put these pauses into place, are now seeing
Speaker 2: the aftermath and demanding that they do a one eighty. Now,
Speaker 2: with that said, can that happen in Hamilton County?
Speaker 1: Well, you know the answer is that I remained hopeful.
Speaker 1: You know, I left being the chair there a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago, and I you know, I waltked very
Speaker 1: carefully what's happening here? I still live here half the time,
Speaker 1: so you know, it's important that things go well in
Speaker 1: Hamilton County. Look, the answer really is this, Brian. It's
Speaker 1: an answer unfortunately I've given a long time. I mean,
Speaker 1: big cities really across the America, that's not it's certainly
Speaker 1: believed me having gotten around the state. It's the exact
Speaker 1: same conversation is happening in Cleveland. The exact same conversation
Speaker 1: is happening in Columbus. You know they have im I
Speaker 1: can tell you in Columbus for instance, they've really the
Speaker 1: Republican Party there, and they've got a great leader, much like
Speaker 1: we have here. They just you know, they didn't even
Speaker 1: field candidates because you know, you're picking your spots. I mean,
Speaker 1: the future really for Hamilton County is I've got a
Speaker 1: couple of prescriptions and they're not you know, none of
Speaker 1: them arearticularly sexy. I mean, but one thing I want
Speaker 1: Hamilton County residents to not forget is you are an
Speaker 1: important voter to the messaging here in Ohio. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: Hamilton County delivered one hundred and seventy thousand roughly votes
Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. Just to give you a comparison, Butler County,
Speaker 1: which is a very red county, delivered about one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifteen thousand votes for Donald Trump. So we need
Speaker 1: Hamilton County fully functioning, fully voting, And the same is
Speaker 1: true for Bernie Marino and everybody else. So you know
Speaker 1: the impact that big counties have on this statewide ticket.
Speaker 1: It's not going away. So you know, these counties matter
Speaker 1: very very much now, these county level races, I think.
Speaker 1: So the first thing is you can't lose sight of
Speaker 1: that as a Republican in Hamilton County. The second thing is,
Speaker 1: you know, we can actually, you know, begin to feel
Speaker 1: targeted races with candidates with crossover appeal, and sometimes, you know,
Speaker 1: that's a hard message to hear, especially from you know,
Speaker 1: some of my really conservative friends, and I count myself
Speaker 1: among that group, but it's hard to say it, but
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to find and I think most of
Speaker 1: powers had that. I think she had ran a wonderful campaign,
Speaker 1: but you know, you're just you're just in a blue
Speaker 1: city and it just makes it harder and harder. But
Speaker 1: you know, look, I mean, as I've as I've shared
Speaker 1: with the local chairman here and the ones in Cleveland
Speaker 1: and Columbus, you know, don't don't you know, you have
Speaker 1: to celebrate what you were a part of, and that
Speaker 1: is winning Ohio because, believe me, Ohio does not go
Speaker 1: for Donald Trump without Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati showing up
Speaker 1: in huge numbers. And make no mistake, Brian Republicans in
Speaker 1: Hamilton County turned out. They did turn out. The problem
Speaker 1: is there's just too many people in the cities continuing
Speaker 1: to hear this left wing message from the Democratic Party,
Speaker 1: and look, can we turn that around. I think we can.
Speaker 1: You're seeing us make inroads, certainly with halfcan American males
Speaker 1: for making inroads. You're seeing crime as a key issue
Speaker 1: for our party. So yeah, there is hope ahead, but
Speaker 1: you know it's going to take a slow, steady progression
Speaker 1: and candidates who can speak to issues that Democrats care
Speaker 1: about in the big cities.
Speaker 2: Well, and you know, I like meless of Power. She
Speaker 2: went literally everywhere in the county, all over the place,
Speaker 2: much in the same way Donald Trump as a presidential candidate,
Speaker 2: went into areas and neighborhoods and edit forums that no
Speaker 2: other Republican president would have dare trod, and he proved
Speaker 2: and got unable to was able to get his message out.
Speaker 2: I mean, even just by running a candidate that may
Speaker 2: have a very low likelihood of winning as a Republican,
Speaker 2: you can get forced the other side to have to
Speaker 2: address these key issues. And that's kind of where my
Speaker 2: hope comes from, because those far left wing policies have
Speaker 2: ruined cities, and even the Democrats who voted for the
Speaker 2: people who enacted them realize that. And that's why I
Speaker 2: think there's a positive direction opportunity here, So let's pause.
Speaker 2: I'll bring Alex back because we want to talk about
Speaker 2: Jade Vance's replacement and how things are looking in Columbus
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Speaker 2: A Wednesday, Brian Thomas with are the Ohio Republican Party
Speaker 2: Chairman Alex Chirantifilo, going a little aftermath post election analysis
Speaker 2: of the state and one of the things we got
Speaker 2: to talk about now JD. Vance and what a wonderful
Speaker 2: a choice he ended up turning out to be and
Speaker 2: maybe future President of the United States of America. Hometown
Speaker 2: hero JD. Who's going to replace JD?
Speaker 1: Vance?
Speaker 2: Alex any inside baseball on that you want to let
Speaker 2: my listeners know about?
Speaker 1: Well, Brian no, I'm having some fun. Yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: mean Lexa, the governor makes this appointment. For anyone listening today,
Speaker 1: I'd understand that the governor of all Ohio, under our
Speaker 1: state constitution makes this makes this appointment to the United
Speaker 1: States Senate. And there are many good candidates. And really
Speaker 1: the reason I'm being a little coy and having some
Speaker 1: fun with you is there are some people that think
Speaker 1: can quote Republican Party makes this call the Republican Party's antithy.
Speaker 1: I run, we don't look we're we think there are
Speaker 1: a slew of great candidates. You know, if I start
Speaker 1: naming them, I probably miss some. But you know, certainly
Speaker 1: Frank Larrose is interested. Who's our secretary of State? I
Speaker 1: think that's been out there. Jane Timpkin, Who's you know,
Speaker 1: a native of Cincinnati and actually now lives in Can't, Ohio.
Speaker 1: And a name that's well known in Republican Party circles,
Speaker 1: you know, Warren Davidson, I know is interviewed. Who's our
Speaker 1: congress my congressman on the west side of Hamilton County.
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I don't I think I've made news.
Speaker 1: I'm even sure he interviewed. I just think he might
Speaker 1: be interested. So you know, I just there are lots
Speaker 1: of good people. Again I've left out other names people
Speaker 1: that maybe in this part of the state do not
Speaker 1: know might carry from Central Ohio. I think is one
Speaker 1: of the names that's been bandied about. So you know,
Speaker 1: there are other people that have shown an interest in this.
Speaker 1: You know, lots of people have. I mean, being a
Speaker 1: United States senator, you know, it's one of the one
Speaker 1: hundred most powerful legislative jobs in the world, really, so
Speaker 1: the governor has to make a call here, you know.
Speaker 1: The timing of this, I just don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I believe, and I don't have any you know, sort
Speaker 1: of inside information here necessarily, but I believe that's going
Speaker 1: to run right up until right around January to twenty.
Speaker 1: It's only because Senator Vance's vote, you know, in a
Speaker 1: Senate that's you know, only a couple votes of going
Speaker 1: the wrong way there. So I think his vote will
Speaker 1: be needed to confirm in many of the President Trump's nominees.
Speaker 1: So you know, I think that you're going to see
Speaker 1: that that run, you know, into January. I don't think
Speaker 1: we're gonna have news on that front, you know, for
Speaker 1: some time and listen. I mean, my job and the
Speaker 1: job of the Ohio Republican Party is to elect Republicans.
Speaker 1: That's the number one obligation of the organization. So we'll
Speaker 1: we'll wait and you know, whoever the nominee of the
Speaker 1: Republican Party is in twenty twenty six, that's who will run. Brian.
Speaker 1: This one of an important point. Do I just again,
Speaker 1: I know you've got some of the most educated listeners anywhere,
Speaker 1: but people need to understand that whoever gets appointed will
Speaker 1: run two times in four years, and that is daunting task.
Speaker 1: I want to tell you. On others, someone like Bernie
Speaker 1: Marino had to raise four hundred million dollars. That's a
Speaker 1: number that's hard to say for people who have to
Speaker 1: raise money. And I'm one of those folks. So it
Speaker 1: is a serious commitment. Bernie Marino is you know, he
Speaker 1: is he He had to have broken records on the
Speaker 1: amount of miles that the man put on his on
Speaker 1: his vehicle because he was all over the state. The
Speaker 1: commitment to take on this challenge is a real one.
Speaker 1: These are not just TV TV appearances and speeches. This
Speaker 1: is a commitment that's a seven day a week commitment
Speaker 1: for years and I you know again, Brian, Well, well,
Speaker 1: I've got the floor on that point. I do want
Speaker 1: to just make one additional point. I wish people sometimes
Speaker 1: could see behind the curtain what I've seen for a
Speaker 1: long time, and that is the commitment that people make
Speaker 1: to actually run for office. And I know there's a
Speaker 1: cynicism Brian, around politics and about politicians, and you know,
Speaker 1: some of that's the warranted, but you know, these people
Speaker 1: work very very hard for the right to go and
Speaker 1: represent you, and somebody like Bernie is a post to
Speaker 1: child for that. Others, I mean, the powers work very
Speaker 1: very hard. You know. Sharon Kennedy is notorious our chief
Speaker 1: Justice here in Ohio for just having laid it out.
Speaker 1: I mean, these people set aside their lives and I look,
Speaker 1: I got a little taste of that myself. You know,
Speaker 1: I went I probably went a month without you know,
Speaker 1: a serious day where I didn't do anything political, so,
Speaker 1: you know, yet not being a martyr, but people should
Speaker 1: understand during this holiday season some level of gratitude towards
Speaker 1: these people and the work they put out to go
Speaker 1: and fight for us. I think is is you know,
Speaker 1: I think is merited.
Speaker 2: So it is, and you know, the jaded and cynical
Speaker 2: among us. Then say, well, there's a reason they work
Speaker 2: that hard for us, because they're going to go off,
Speaker 2: you know, not, you know, being of modest financial means,
Speaker 2: and like every other human being that ends up getting
Speaker 2: elected and going to d C. Somehow magically they come
Speaker 2: back multi millionaires. Which is why I like guys like Moreno,
Speaker 2: I like Ramas Swimming, I like must because they seem
Speaker 2: to be wanting to do the job for the good
Speaker 2: of the people. They don't need the damn money, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Well, there's no question. I mean, I you know, Bernie
Speaker 1: marino Is has taken a pay cut for that. You
Speaker 1: can be sure, as are lots of other people in
Speaker 1: this business who I know personally. But you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a serious commitment. And and look, I mean
Speaker 1: that citicism is healthy sometimes, Brian, because we should hold
Speaker 1: these people to account. You know. The other point I
Speaker 1: would quickly make, and I know you're not asked the question,
Speaker 1: but what we as Republicans need to do And I've
Speaker 1: told this to everybody, and I've said it every time
Speaker 1: I've been part of winning elections and losing ones. We
Speaker 1: now got to go do the job. I mean, we
Speaker 1: enjoyed this victory really for about two or three days.
Speaker 1: But we must as Republicans go and do what we
Speaker 1: said we're going to do. Under Donald Trump's leadership. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have the House in the Senate federally, we must
Speaker 1: do what we said. Deportations, we must steal the border.
Speaker 1: We've got to cut taxes. We've got to you know,
Speaker 1: keep the cut the tax cuts that we're in place
Speaker 1: to keep this economy growing, cut prices, drill for energy,
Speaker 1: all the things. And I say, Donald Trump is a
Speaker 1: guy who has a checklist. This guy's tireless too. He
Speaker 1: works his tail off. We've got to do these things
Speaker 1: so that the pendulum does not swing back, because ultimately,
Speaker 1: in American politics, it tends to swing back. These wins
Speaker 1: can be fleeting, but we must do what we said
Speaker 1: we are going to do. So people like me who
Speaker 1: have to go out and sell the Republican Party and
Speaker 1: talk about our accomplishments, not just you know, our aspirations. Amen.
Speaker 2: That chairman of the Ohio Republican Party, Alex Charantapila, Alex,
Speaker 2: if you and I don't talk before the Christmas season
Speaker 2: kicks in, I hope you have a very merry Christmas.
Speaker 2: Best to health, to you and your entire family, and
Speaker 2: again I share your true appreciation for family and the
Speaker 2: importance of it. God bless you, my friend. I hope
Speaker 2: we get to talk again real soon, be too.
Speaker 1: Mary. Christmas to you, your family and all your listeners. Brian,
Speaker 1: thanks so much, Thanks much.
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