WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.799 The following is a paid podcast. iHeartRadio's hosting of this 2 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:07.759 podcast constitutes neither an endorsement of the products offered or 3 00:00:07.799 --> 00:00:09.759 the ideas expressed. 4 00:00:09.320 --> 00:00:13.599 For cancer treatment. Most prefer effective, non invasive, well tolerated, 5 00:00:13.599 --> 00:00:17.600 outpatient therapy. That's doctor Liederman, the radio surgery pioneer's goal too. 6 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:20.760 Doctor Liederman is first in America, first in New York, 7 00:00:20.960 --> 00:00:24.960 First for you with body radiosurgery. Doctor Liederman hits your 8 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:28.559 cancer with no cutting, no bleeding. Doctor Liederman has decades 9 00:00:28.559 --> 00:00:32.280 of experience with primary and metastatic large or small cancers 10 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:35.520 from head to toe. Cancer treatment with possibly a second 11 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:39.600 chance for you even if chemo radiation or surgery didn't 12 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:43.119 work or isn't tolerated. Goals are your best results and 13 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:46.399 quality of life. Meet doctor Leaderman to hit the cancer. 14 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:50.840 He's New York's only Harvard trained Triple Board certified radiation oncologist. 15 00:00:51.039 --> 00:00:54.119 Call two one two choices two one two choices to 16 00:00:54.240 --> 00:00:58.560 meet doctor Liderman for a fresh second opinion. Most insurances Medicare, 17 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:03.200 Medicaid accepted. Free DVD two super convenient Broadway in thirty 18 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:06.560 eighth in Manhattan. Meet doctor Liederman to hit your cancer. 19 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:09.680 Call two one two choices two one two choices. 20 00:01:09.760 --> 00:01:12.560 It's Doctor Leaderman with Carrie Stubbs, who sings and writes 21 00:01:12.560 --> 00:01:13.920 about his cancer treatment. 22 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:17.560 Thirteen eighty four Broadway and thirty eight. Cat aplane, hop, 23 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:20.200 a train, don't has a tap? Call too on two 24 00:01:20.359 --> 00:01:24.640 choices for an appointment, Mate, So cancer, Candy said straight 25 00:01:24.879 --> 00:01:29.120 my cancer. It was twenty two centimeters. Now I am 26 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:34.760 cancer free. No cutting, no bleeding, no hospital stay, no chemo, thearraphy. 27 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:41.079 I'm grateful to Doc taleder Man at New York Radio Surgery. 28 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:46.120 No cutting, no bleeding, no hospitals. Day made me very happy. 29 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:50.560 Thirteen eighty four Broadway and thirty eight If the address 30 00:01:50.599 --> 00:01:53.519 my cancer had been set straight? Called to and two 31 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:58.239 choices for an Appointment's mate the tleeder Men's top right. 32 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:01.799 For more information about innovative cancer treatment, called doctor Leederman 33 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:04.719 two and two choices, two and two choices, thirteen eighty 34 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:08.439 four Broadway. Most insurance is accepted for newer recurrent cancers. 35 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:10.840 Call Doctor Leiderman two and two choices. 36 00:02:19.280 --> 00:02:23.800 Welcome everybody. It's the Radio Surgery Show with Doctor Gil Leiderman, MD, 37 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:29.439 new York's only Harvard trained triple board certified radiation oncologist 38 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:33.319 who brings you the latest cancer treatment news, interviewing world 39 00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:37.759 renowned cancer experts, delving to special cases, and of course 40 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:42.639 answering your questions. I'm Rob Redstone, broadcasting from the WR 41 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:45.719 Studios in the heart of New York City. And now 42 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:49.280 please welcome doctor Leaderman. 43 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:52.560 Thank you Rob, and thank you Noah, and thank everybody. 44 00:02:52.599 --> 00:02:55.199 Thank you and your loved ones for tuning in, thank 45 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:58.120 you for taking the time, thank you for listening, thank 46 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:01.919 you for willing be willing to learn. So why is 47 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:04.680 anyone tuning onto this radio show? Well, lots of people 48 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:07.719 tell me it's interesting and it's fascinating, and some people 49 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:11.879 listen to every show. We have one listener, Steven from Connecticut, 50 00:03:11.879 --> 00:03:16.080 who had this terrible prostate cancer five years ago, and 51 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:19.639 this is kind of his celebration five years. He listens 52 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:21.599 to every radio show. Let me tell you a little 53 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:23.879 bit about Steven. Though I didn't intend to, I will 54 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:26.719 tell you about this man. So he went to his doctor. 55 00:03:26.759 --> 00:03:28.319 He's seventy years old. He worked for one of the 56 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:31.960 biggest super duper corporations in America, one of those famous ones. 57 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:36.039 His name is on all the wherever you look, and 58 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:39.120 he worked he ran around the world selling goods for 59 00:03:39.199 --> 00:03:44.199 this company, doing purchasing wholesale, retail around the world, import export. 60 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:46.759 And he went to his doctors and he found his 61 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:49.159 PSA was three. It was okay, and then it was four. 62 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:52.080 It was well, okay. Usually four you'd like to get 63 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:54.879 a biopsy. So that's a warning sign. If you're listening 64 00:03:54.919 --> 00:03:58.039 and your PSA is four, it's a warning sign. Number 65 00:03:58.080 --> 00:04:00.439 one and number two warning sign. If you don't even 66 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:02.719 know who your PSA is, I would suggest you come 67 00:04:02.759 --> 00:04:05.280 in tomorrow to thirteen eighty four Broadway and find out. 68 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:07.759 Come in tomorrow or the next day, or call us 69 00:04:07.759 --> 00:04:11.759 for an appointment. Call up. It's a disease. Prostate cancer 70 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:14.080 is a terrible disease in some communities, like in the 71 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:17.560 black community. One in six Black men get prostate cancer 72 00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:20.680 and one in twenty three die of prostate cancer. And 73 00:04:20.839 --> 00:04:26.279 other communities are not immune, white, yellow, whatever for Asian Africa, 74 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:31.319 whatever you say, we see cancer possibilities and everyone and 75 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:33.759 isn't it happy? When I had my colonoscopy, I always 76 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:36.560 tell everyone to get a colonoscopy. Why. I've had dear 77 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:40.000 friends who've died of colon cancer because they were embarrassed 78 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:43.040 to get a colonoscopy, and I set out and I 79 00:04:43.079 --> 00:04:45.759 had my first colonoscopy in years past, and it was 80 00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:48.000 one of my happiest days, along with the birth of 81 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:50.920 my child. It was my happiest days that I had 82 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:55.000 colonoscopy because a person cannot know what's in the colon. 83 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:58.160 You cannot know, you cannot see it or feel it. 84 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:00.759 And some people will get all mixed and they think 85 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:03.839 cola gard are checking for blood in the stools, the 86 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:07.439 same as colonoscopy. It's not. Col of guard is a 87 00:05:07.480 --> 00:05:09.879 test to look for blood in the stool. That's not 88 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:14.040 the same as colonoscopy. Klnoscopy is a camera's put up 89 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:17.160 once your end and the patients should be prepared to 90 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:21.439 clean out the bow and inspected by a great gastroenterologist 91 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:23.199 and need to get all the way over to the 92 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:26.120 other side from the anus all the way over to 93 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:28.800 the end of the small bow. The whole thing has 94 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:32.079 to be looked at and that can save lives. People 95 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:35.639 who have cancers found with kolnoscopy will have twice a 96 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:39.519 success rate of people who come with cancers growing. One 97 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:42.120 of my best friends collapsed at his daughter's wedding with 98 00:05:42.279 --> 00:05:45.600 recto bleeding. He bled out from a colon cancer at 99 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:48.480 his daughter's wedding, and it was quite dramatic, and he 100 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:51.160 ended up dying of that colon cancer because it already 101 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:56.480 had traveled stage four before he was diagnosed. So that's 102 00:05:56.480 --> 00:05:58.800 issue number one. This friend I'm going to talk about 103 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:01.600 is actually a first and more of the patient who 104 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:04.439 became very friendly as a man from Connecticut, and he 105 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:06.879 listens to every radio show, and he went to his 106 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:10.720 doctors and his PSA was four, and he said okay. 107 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:13.519 The doctor said okay. The patient did all the right things. 108 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:16.040 He went when the PSA was three, he went when 109 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:18.279 the PSA was four, then we went up to six. 110 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:20.279 So to go from four to six as a fifty 111 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:23.800 percent jump. And you're all said, oh, you're seventy years old, 112 00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:26.839 don't worry about it. Don't do anything about it. Don't 113 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:31.399 do anything. And the patient, sad to say, believed him. 114 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:34.079 Even though the patient says he was listening to my 115 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:36.000 shows for the last thirty years. Well, if he was 116 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:39.399 listening greatly, if he was an A plus student, he 117 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:42.160 would have got a gun and left that doctor and 118 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:44.240 come to radio Stude, New York I said, doctor Liederman, 119 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:47.360 my PSA is four, what should I do? And then 120 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:51.120 worst of all, PSA jumped fifty percent to six, and 121 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:53.639 what should I do? Well, he didn't come here, sad 122 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:57.600 to say, he never came here until until Okay, So 123 00:06:57.639 --> 00:07:00.639 his PSA went from three to four to six and 124 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:05.839 his next PSA, just without a year, was sixty. Wow, 125 00:07:06.639 --> 00:07:09.360 And well he got all alarmed, and all of a 126 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:12.439 sudden he tried to call his primary doctor and a urologist. 127 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:16.319 This is in a neighboring state, a fan fancy neighborhood 128 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:18.720 where all the rich people live. You'd think they'd be 129 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:21.360 on top of their patients. Well, the patient was calling. 130 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:26.079 The patient did everything right. The patient called and called 131 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:28.879 and called and called, and finally he was at wits end. 132 00:07:28.879 --> 00:07:33.839 His PSA had gone from three to six to sixty. 133 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:37.399 And he's a smart man, and he started panicking. He 134 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:39.800 waited three weeks for his doctors to call him back, 135 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:42.839 and no one called him back. Nobody called him back, 136 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:46.040 and finally remembered two and two choices. Remember doctor Liederman 137 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:48.879 on the radio, and he called me up and I said, okay, 138 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:50.480 come in the next day. And he came in the 139 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:53.480 next day. And they saw him, and of course I 140 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:56.439 repeated the PSA to make sure that sixty was correct. 141 00:07:56.439 --> 00:07:58.399 So they had gone from three to four to six 142 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:01.319 to sixty. And he did it just within a few 143 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:06.000 days of the sixties. Was already ninety. And I examined him. 144 00:08:06.040 --> 00:08:10.040 Had a big, bulky mass inness prostate, and I said, look, 145 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:13.279 with a PSA of ninety, this is most likely cancer. 146 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:16.199 We ranged for a biopsy. We ranged for scans of 147 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:20.000 his body because we know that when you have cancer, 148 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:22.480 you need to get scanned. So when we have cancer, 149 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:25.439 you need two things. What kind of cancer it is? 150 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:28.120 Number one, and he had a high risk cancer, and 151 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:31.759 number two, where is it? And he got scanned up 152 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:35.559 in his body and he had extensive disease, multiple lymph nodes, 153 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:40.039 stage four cancer, multiple lymph nodes throughout the pelvis and abdomen. 154 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:44.000 And he took guard advice, so he put together a 155 00:08:44.039 --> 00:08:46.759 program for him even though he had a very risky cancer. 156 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:48.919 And you should know, for the typical man with a 157 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:52.039 PSA of one hundred, half the people are dead within 158 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:55.559 five years. Well, this man was diagnosed five years ago 159 00:08:56.039 --> 00:09:00.519 and his PSA is now zero. So it's a fantastic story. 160 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:01.759 So let me tell you a little bit more about 161 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:06.039 this man. So he started to tuning in diligently and 162 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:08.559 listening to the radio show diligently. We put together a 163 00:09:08.600 --> 00:09:12.840 program to treat his prostrate and his lymph noodes meticulously. 164 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:16.240 And he came by train every day. So these people came, Oh, 165 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:19.240 I'm from thirty eighth Street, I can't go to forty second. No. 166 00:09:19.679 --> 00:09:23.080 He came every day from Connecticut on the train, came 167 00:09:23.120 --> 00:09:26.440 to Grand Central, walked over, had his treatment, always with 168 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:30.879 a smile, always with good humor. And his PSA started 169 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:33.240 going down and down and down and down when it 170 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:36.080 was ninety. By the way, it went from three to 171 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:39.720 four to six, and then his doctor got a sixty. 172 00:09:40.080 --> 00:09:42.120 I got a ninety, and I asked him, Hey, don't 173 00:09:42.159 --> 00:09:44.200 you want to repeat it? And he was afraid and 174 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:47.480 he said, oh, it'll be good more than one hundred. 175 00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:48.840 And I agree it would have been more than one 176 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:51.399 hundred because it was going up so fast. He had 177 00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:55.919 metastatic stage four cancer five years ago, five years ago 178 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:59.320 exactly now, and he put together a program. And I 179 00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:01.120 can say that he he did trust me, and he 180 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:04.759 trusted team I put together. Trust the eurologists do the biopsy, 181 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:09.320 trust the radiologists, to the imaging or fantastic. And to 182 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:11.960 have a team together fantastic. And it's not like being 183 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:14.279 a hospital where you're stuck with the same people in 184 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:16.879 the hospital that maybe you want or don't want. Here, 185 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:19.440 I can choose the best people I want. I can 186 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:23.240 choose the best imaging place and the best consultants anywhere, 187 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:27.320 from any hospital or any facility, private practice anywhere. And 188 00:10:27.399 --> 00:10:31.120 he trusted, and he put together we put together a program, 189 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:33.879 and he accepted the program, and he came every day 190 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:38.600 on time, diligently, and now five years later, he's off 191 00:10:38.639 --> 00:10:42.120 of all treatment and he's carrying on. He's lucky enough 192 00:10:42.159 --> 00:10:46.240 to have a home in Michigan on the beach, beautiful 193 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:49.200 beach home, and a beautiful home in Connecticut, and a 194 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:52.720 beautiful wife, and a beautiful life and a very fine palate. 195 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:55.039 And he likes a good steak, and he likes a 196 00:10:55.080 --> 00:10:58.240 good bottle of wine, and he likes the good life. 197 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:00.480 And this is what we do every day. He is 198 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:04.679 in remission and ninety nine point nine nine nine percent 199 00:11:04.759 --> 00:11:08.240 chance he's listening to this program talking to him about 200 00:11:08.279 --> 00:11:13.360 his fifth anniversary, starting his sixth year with a PSA 201 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:16.679 that's gone from ninety down to zero. He's had no 202 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:19.639 treatment now for quite some time. We never had to 203 00:11:19.679 --> 00:11:23.320 retreat anything. We treated the prostatan lymphanodes and he's been 204 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:28.200 in remission, doing great, even though statistically half the men 205 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:31.399 with a PSA like his five years later are dead. 206 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:35.360 Those are people most likely treated elsewhere, and that's why 207 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:39.720 so many men with prostate cancer. In fact, nine thousand 208 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:42.360 men with prostate cancer have not only come to me, 209 00:11:42.799 --> 00:11:45.759 but come to me and accepted our treatment over decades. 210 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:50.759 So we have one of the largest experiences anywhere, huge experience. 211 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:53.720 We're at thirty eighty four Broadway Broadway in thirty eighth Street. 212 00:11:53.720 --> 00:11:58.240 We accept most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid. We work with great consultants, 213 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:03.159 whether it's radiology, urology, others. Great consultants, great team, and 214 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:05.200 you can see the results. The proof of the pudding 215 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:07.799 is in the eating, and for this man, it PSA 216 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:12.399 is zero. He's doing great. He's intact, he's living his life, 217 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:17.240 he's traveling, he's a a gardener. He plans fantastic tomatoes 218 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:20.440 and beans and all kinds of other things in season. 219 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:22.639 This is the kind of man. He is. It's the 220 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:24.440 kind of man that you'd want to have your friend 221 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:27.840 and your neighbor and your loved one, and your husband 222 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:30.799 and your uncle and your son. And this is the 223 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:35.320 work we do every day at thirteen eighty four Broadway. 224 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:40.279 So to you, Stephen, congratulations on your fifth anniversary. This 225 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:42.879 is the work we do. Thank you for your trust, 226 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:46.279 thank you for your diligence, thank you for your camaraderie. 227 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:52.720 You're a fantastic person, fantastic husband, fantastic patient, fantastic friend. 228 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:54.960 My name's doctor Liederman. We'll be right back. 229 00:12:55.240 --> 00:12:58.679 Many people with cancer come to doctor Liederman when surgery 230 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:02.679 didn't help and toxic chemo stopped working. Many come in pain. 231 00:13:02.919 --> 00:13:05.960 Many people with cancer come to doctor Liederman when their 232 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:10.080 caregiver has no more care to offer. Doctor Liederman bringing 233 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:14.039 innovative cancer care for decades. When the next cancer drug 234 00:13:14.120 --> 00:13:17.399 is not as promised, when surgery was to fail to pass, 235 00:13:17.639 --> 00:13:21.200 we may be able to offer you new cancer treatment options. 236 00:13:21.399 --> 00:13:25.200 We treat new and recurrent cancers, small or large, most 237 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:29.320 anywhere in the body, even if prior chemo, radiation or 238 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:33.159 surgery didn't work. Call doctor Liederman. Two and two choices, 239 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:36.679 two and two choices for a free booklet DVD thirty 240 00:13:36.679 --> 00:13:41.799 eighth and Broadway. Most insurances Medicare, Medicaid accepted. Harvard trained, 241 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:46.039 Triple Board certified Doctor Liederman two and two choices two 242 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:50.039 and two choices for innovative cancer treatment. Best is to 243 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:53.759 meet doctor Liederman in person. Call two and two choices 244 00:13:53.960 --> 00:13:55.240 two and two choices. 245 00:13:55.399 --> 00:13:59.440 It's doctor Liederman with guy talking about skin cancer treatment options. 246 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:01.879 You treat it me. I had basil cell onto my cheek. 247 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:03.720 A buddy of mine went through the same thing that 248 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:05.840 looked like they went out of him with a melon baller. 249 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:07.960 This was on my face. I don't want any scring 250 00:14:08.080 --> 00:14:09.600 I think I'm kind of handsome. I wanted to keep 251 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:10.039 it that way. 252 00:14:10.159 --> 00:14:12.039 So you are hats and we're going to the Olympics. 253 00:14:12.279 --> 00:14:14.960 Usually in America there's three million skin cancers a year. 254 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:17.639 Ninety nine percent of people were let down the primrose 255 00:14:17.720 --> 00:14:21.440 path to have radical mos surgery for their skin cancer. 256 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:22.720 Why are you different. 257 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:24.799 From hearing what you report? You know, hey, you don't 258 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:27.159 need to get radical deforming. Come and see what we 259 00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:29.000 could do. I have a lot of trust in what 260 00:14:29.080 --> 00:14:31.320 I've seen and what I heard, and the treatments were 261 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:31.919 very simple. 262 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:34.159 If Miss America comes up to right now, what would 263 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:36.000 she think about the results of your skin. 264 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:37.600 She would be able to keep her hands off. There 265 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:39.840 is zero indication it was ever there. You know, I 266 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:41.600 don't know that I got the chance to say, hey, thanks, 267 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:44.080 doctor Leadman. I tell anybody who's going down the same path. 268 00:14:44.159 --> 00:14:46.519 Doctor Leederman did the absolute perfect thing. That's where you 269 00:14:46.519 --> 00:14:46.879 should do. 270 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:49.960 Any regrets, not at all. Call doctor Leaderhiman had two 271 00:14:49.960 --> 00:14:53.720 and two choices thirteen eighty four Broadway. Most insurances, Medicare, 272 00:14:53.759 --> 00:14:54.759 Medicaid accepted. 273 00:14:55.879 --> 00:14:58.600 Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob 274 00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:02.240 Redstone here with doctor Derman at the w R Studios 275 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:03.679 in the hearts of New York City. 276 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:04.559 Were just a few. 277 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:06.759 Steps from the radio surgery in New York Cancer Treatment 278 00:15:06.799 --> 00:15:09.480 Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman, the 279 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:13.360 leading cancer expert, treats prostate cancer not invasively. He was 280 00:15:13.399 --> 00:15:16.240 the first in New York with fractionated brain radio surgery, 281 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:18.919 and he's the first in America and in the Western 282 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:22.440 Hemisphere with body radio surgery. You can also call doctor 283 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:24.960 Liederman at two and two choices for a free informative 284 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:27.519 booklet and DVD. Hey doctor Liederman. 285 00:15:27.759 --> 00:15:28.360 We're back. 286 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:30.480 We're back, and with Taba and a very interesting man. 287 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:32.720 He's seventy seven. He looks much younger than he looks, 288 00:15:32.759 --> 00:15:35.840 about sixties. Married, has two children. He came with his wife. 289 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:39.600 He has had blood pressure and he had difficulty urinating. 290 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:42.360 He was diagnosed with a bladder cancer. He was seen 291 00:15:42.840 --> 00:15:47.159 at a super duper hospital in a neighboring state, and 292 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:49.799 he was seen by eurologist over in the super duper 293 00:15:49.960 --> 00:15:53.799 Centro and he always just wanted to remove his bladder. Okay, 294 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:56.480 so he had difficulty urinating. He looked inside, he had 295 00:15:56.480 --> 00:15:58.960 a bladder tumor and you all just wanted to cut 296 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:01.120 out his bladder. Can tell you when you have bladder 297 00:16:01.159 --> 00:16:04.480 cancer and they cut out your bladder, your life changes. 298 00:16:04.799 --> 00:16:08.360 You never yearnate normally again, whether it's you're nitting into 299 00:16:08.399 --> 00:16:12.240 a plastic bag or a tube, you're never yearnitting normally. 300 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:15.000 For men who have their bladder removed, the pres to 301 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:17.159 goes with it. That means the end of your sex life, 302 00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:19.600 the end of your erections, and it's a big operation. 303 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:22.080 It's a seventy seven year old man and they didn't 304 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:26.080 even diagnosed invasive cancer. He was at super Duper's General 305 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:31.039 in a neighboring state. They did not diagnose invasive cancer, 306 00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:35.320 So doing a removal of the bladder for non invasive 307 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:38.759 cancer is wow, a big question mark. And he came 308 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:41.240 to me six months ago and he was so upset. Oh, 309 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:43.200 I don't want to come to New York. It's too 310 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:46.000 far away. I can go down the street. I said, well, 311 00:16:46.159 --> 00:16:48.360 you do what you want. It's free country. You're welcome 312 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:52.039 to come here. But doing a radical systectomy removing your 313 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:56.399 bladder for bladder cancer that's not even invasive without the 314 00:16:56.480 --> 00:17:02.600 doctor doing any scans or further biopsies, in my is wrong. Well, 315 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:04.000 I said, what you need to do. You need to 316 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:06.079 get scans of your body. We need to get special 317 00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:09.799 scans MRI scans and pet scans and a better biopsy 318 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:11.839 to see what's going on in your body. And he 319 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:14.519 didn't come back for four months. Coming to thirty eighth 320 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:17.839 and Broadway to him, was so difficult. He'd like rather 321 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:20.519 die than come to thirty eighth than Broadway. He and 322 00:17:20.559 --> 00:17:23.799 his wife, Oh, it's so hard and so difficult. Oh okay, 323 00:17:24.079 --> 00:17:27.000 So everyone's got their own thing. And on one hand, 324 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:28.880 we have patients coming from around the world. Or we 325 00:17:28.880 --> 00:17:31.119 have Steven who took the train every day from Connecticut. 326 00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:34.240 This man one trip to him and it was so 327 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:38.079 difficult even to save his life. So for four months, 328 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:40.759 four and a half months, he was gone and he 329 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:43.400 never came back. And I wondered what this man did. 330 00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:46.079 What this man did, because he never had a biopsy 331 00:17:46.119 --> 00:17:49.599 showing invasive cancer, and yet this urologist of the super 332 00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:52.720 duper hospital in a neighboring state wanted to cut out 333 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:56.200 his bladder. And he finally came back to me, said 334 00:17:56.240 --> 00:17:58.680 doctor Leiderman, And I'm so confused, and he was. He 335 00:17:58.720 --> 00:18:01.319 and his wife were so confused and had to write 336 00:18:01.319 --> 00:18:03.160 down in the paper what needed to be done. That 337 00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:05.799 he needed to get a better biopsy number one, and 338 00:18:05.839 --> 00:18:08.279 we need to get this MRI because in the pelvic 339 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:11.160 area where the bladder and the prostate is, cat scans 340 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:15.079 are not so fantastic. Also for women gynaecologic cancers, cat 341 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:19.160 scans are not so fantastic because the bones create artifact. 342 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:22.200 And eventually, then a month later, took him a month 343 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:25.000 to get a pet scan and an MRI. Even though 344 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:27.000 we arrange it with us that he come to us, 345 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:29.720 he would have had it the next day. That's how 346 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:33.599 our consultants work. We have great consultants, and that's how 347 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:36.039 they work in general. But no, he wanted to go 348 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:39.240 close to home and futs around, and he fetched around 349 00:18:39.480 --> 00:18:42.000 and took another month. So now it's five and a 350 00:18:42.039 --> 00:18:45.680 half months and he comes back with an MRI showing 351 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:50.720 metastasis to the pelvic nodes. Well, his biopsy only showed 352 00:18:50.759 --> 00:18:54.720 a non invasive bladder cancer, which means it shouldn't spread. 353 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:59.960 But the scan, the MRI showed cancer in the lymph nodes. 354 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:03.119 There was a big question mark, you know, red lights 355 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:07.559 flashing red lights. Something's wrong with this man's case. Now 356 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:10.839 is it the eurologist who did a lousy biopsy or 357 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:13.960 did he? Wait? So what did I do? Well, we 358 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:16.960 had the mass in the lymph nodes, and we arranged 359 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:19.680 a tiny little needle to go right into that mass. 360 00:19:19.720 --> 00:19:23.160 And what did we find? Metastatic cancer? He had metastatic 361 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:27.319 stage four bladder cancer. He had advanced bladder cancer in 362 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:32.200 a lymph node, even though as eurologists never found invasive cancer. 363 00:19:32.640 --> 00:19:35.000 And so I ranged for him to see a urologist, 364 00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:38.440 an excellent eurologist with forty years experience. I've known him 365 00:19:38.440 --> 00:19:43.319 for most of those years, and he did a sistoscopy 366 00:19:43.319 --> 00:19:46.359 and he found invasive cancer in the bladder. He found 367 00:19:46.359 --> 00:19:50.440 a huge, massive cancer in the bladder, which the consultant 368 00:19:50.519 --> 00:19:53.079 is super duper at super duper General in a neighboring 369 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:57.440 state missed. And then the doctor had wanted to do 370 00:19:57.480 --> 00:20:00.920 a radical systectomy to remove his bladder, not even knowing 371 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:04.799 the cancer had already traveled to the lymphanodes. One no, no, 372 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:07.279 was not getting in adequate biopsy. Another no, no was 373 00:20:07.319 --> 00:20:10.160 wanting to do a radical surgery. Another no, no was 374 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:12.920 not even looking to see if the cancer had traveled. Well, 375 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:16.640 we took care of all those things, non invasively outpatient 376 00:20:16.799 --> 00:20:21.480 in minutes, and now we know he has advanced cancer, 377 00:20:21.640 --> 00:20:25.599 metastatic cancer, putting together a program for him to be treated. 378 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:30.400 Where in the neighboring state at Hatsi Tatsi General, they 379 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:32.880 were going to remove the bladder without a diagnosis. They 380 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:35.039 didn't want to look and see if the cancer had traveled. 381 00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:37.680 All the opposite things, all the things that we warn 382 00:20:38.039 --> 00:20:40.359 and where is he now, Well, now he's getting a 383 00:20:40.440 --> 00:20:42.680 scraping out of the bladder to clean out the bladder, 384 00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:45.240 and he's starting treatment and This is the work that 385 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:49.119 we do every day at thirteen eighty four Broadway with 386 00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:53.559 an expertise and cancer treatment for complex cases. We're not 387 00:20:53.640 --> 00:20:56.799 rushing anyone into having surgery. We don't rush anyone to 388 00:20:56.839 --> 00:20:59.319 have anything. All we do is encourage him to learn 389 00:20:59.359 --> 00:21:01.759 all the options. And this man, it took him six 390 00:21:01.839 --> 00:21:04.920 months to learn that he had an invasive cancer to 391 00:21:05.079 --> 00:21:07.160 six months to learn that the doctor was doing the 392 00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:10.319 radical surgery, didn't even look to see if the cancer 393 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:13.279 traveled that he shouldn't have been doing the surgery. That 394 00:21:13.319 --> 00:21:15.839 they never cleaned out the bladder. They never got a 395 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:19.200 diagnosis until they came here to Radiosurgery New York. And 396 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:21.640 they never knew the extent of cancer at super duper 397 00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:24.680 General in a neighboring state until he came here. And 398 00:21:24.720 --> 00:21:26.480 you ask why do people come to radio sirt to 399 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:28.880 New York? Well, like for this man, or for the 400 00:21:28.920 --> 00:21:31.599 man with prostate cancer. Had PSA went from three to 401 00:21:31.640 --> 00:21:35.039