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<v Speaker 1>Someone who's a very familiar voice to you if you

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the show when I'm off, and you should,

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<v Speaker 1>because Deborah Flora often fills in for me. And now

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<v Speaker 1>we're on to talk about the Deborah is you have

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<v Speaker 1>more jobs than you know, your average hustler out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of your jobs is filmmaker. Let's put on

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<v Speaker 1>your filmmaker hat today. Take off your Douglas County Citizen Marie,

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<v Speaker 1>your other hats, just take those off, and then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>put on your filmmaker hat. Because your movie that you

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<v Speaker 1>did with your wonderful husband Jonathan is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>screened this weekend. And I know that this was such

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<v Speaker 1>a passion project. Tell everybody about whose children are they.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, Mandy.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, yes, I have multiple hats and I try not

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<v Speaker 3>to stack them on top of each other because that

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<v Speaker 3>just looks weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It would make it anyway, it would make you taller.

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<v Speaker 2>You could use that. Yes, I need to be as

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<v Speaker 2>tall as you.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the difference between us, one of the only differences.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, Ye, thank you so much. It's great to

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<v Speaker 2>be here and share with your audience.

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<v Speaker 3>This coming Sunday, are going to be screening Braver Angels,

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<v Speaker 3>which is an amazing organization perfectly time for this period

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<v Speaker 3>in our history. It's an organization that is trying to

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<v Speaker 3>bridge this divide and bring people together so we can

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<v Speaker 3>reason together.

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<v Speaker 2>And they are going to be hosting a screening of our.

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<v Speaker 3>Documentary Whose Children Are They? It premiered in theaters nationwide.

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<v Speaker 3>People can find out about it at whose Children They dot.

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<v Speaker 2>Com and Mandy.

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<v Speaker 3>This is important because it's a school board election year

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<v Speaker 3>and so people are just looking for answers and this

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<v Speaker 3>film is not political, it's informational and so it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be screened this Sunday, October fifth, I believe that is,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's going to be at the Parker Task Force.

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<v Speaker 3>People can go to my Facebook page Deborah Flora on

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<v Speaker 3>Facebook and I've got the information there. They do ask

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<v Speaker 3>that you it's free, but they do ask that you

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<v Speaker 3>sign in so that people know who's there.

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<v Speaker 2>But we invite you.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it really is time to come and reason together,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's why we made the documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Debra, you and I have spoken about this

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<v Speaker 1>at a different time, but yesterday I had a big

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<v Speaker 1>thought right before the show started, and I've expressed to

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<v Speaker 1>you that I have concerns that this new talking point

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<v Speaker 1>in the school board races and it's in the Doug

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<v Speaker 1>Co races and it's now in the Jeff Co races.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it's all about mental health, mental health, mental health,

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<v Speaker 1>mental health. And I'm not opposed to making sure that

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<v Speaker 1>there's supports in schools, but this feels like another area

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<v Speaker 1>where the school is trying to insert themselves into the

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<v Speaker 1>parent child relationship because ultimately parents need to be responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for checking on their kids' mental health. And yes, some

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<v Speaker 1>parents are going to fail at it, right, but that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean we assume all parents will. So this movie

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<v Speaker 1>even though that's not what this is about.

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<v Speaker 2>This is kind of like.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the sort of slow drum beat that

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about that gets it's just getting louder and

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<v Speaker 1>louder and louder. So how do you describe the film

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<v Speaker 1>to people that have not seen it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the film is really by the way, first of all,

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<v Speaker 3>want to say it comes from the standpoint that we

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<v Speaker 3>are pro teacher, pro parent, pro student. In fact, out

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<v Speaker 3>of eighty interviews, the majority, the largest group that we

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<v Speaker 3>interview are teachers, and it's really about letting teachers teach,

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<v Speaker 3>not be social engineering or pushing political or ideological agendas,

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<v Speaker 3>parents being equal partners.

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<v Speaker 2>With the teachers, or the good.

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<v Speaker 3>Of students, and what you're saying, Mandy about mental health

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<v Speaker 3>is one of the key elements. Granted, we all know

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<v Speaker 3>there's a mental health crisis amongst our youth. We can

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<v Speaker 3>have a longer documentary debate about all the causes for it,

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<v Speaker 3>but the reality is you cannot have these mental health

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<v Speaker 3>just upsurges of people practicing mental health in the schools

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<v Speaker 3>if the parents are not included and involved. What unfortunately

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<v Speaker 3>is happening too often in any one of these issues

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<v Speaker 3>is parents are shut out.

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<v Speaker 2>And study after study after.

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<v Speaker 3>Study has shown children prosper the more involved and engage

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<v Speaker 3>the parents are in their education and their well being.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what we want to get back to. So

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<v Speaker 3>the documentary covers, you know, almost everything. It's like chapters

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<v Speaker 3>academic plummeting that's happening, what the real cause of safety

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<v Speaker 3>and security concerns that are going on, which by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>hurt teachers of you know, situations such as a sex

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<v Speaker 3>education which when you read it, by the way, Mandy,

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<v Speaker 3>that is the part of our documentary that would be

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<v Speaker 3>our rated or NC seventeen if it had a rating

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<v Speaker 3>in the theaters and we put a disclaimer up front

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<v Speaker 3>saying not.

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<v Speaker 2>Appropriate for children. However, this is what is shown to

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<v Speaker 2>your children, right, so right, we copy everything in there.

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason why is because different people may have

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<v Speaker 3>different concerns. But at the heart of it is what

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<v Speaker 3>you said, Teachers, parents partnering together for the good of

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<v Speaker 3>students is the original golden triangle of education when we

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<v Speaker 3>were the best in the world, and that is being

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<v Speaker 3>really pushed apart by the teachers' units predominantly that have

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<v Speaker 3>a different agenda and are not really finding for things

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<v Speaker 3>such as teachers pay.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it exposes this whole situation, and.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what it's about, and I think there's something for

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<v Speaker 3>everyone to talk about, particularly at this point in time

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<v Speaker 3>with the school board elections coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I put a link on the blog today at

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<v Speaker 1>mandy'sblog dot com where people can go ahead and get

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<v Speaker 1>the details and go ahead, and I believe do they

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<v Speaker 1>have it as a yeah, you can sign up? I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of like an RSVP, so they know

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<v Speaker 1>how many people are coming because that space is not tiny,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not huge, right, correct, Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And it's going to be afterwards something that you know

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<v Speaker 3>really needs to be practiced, braver angels. Afterwards is going

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<v Speaker 3>to have people that are attending that would consider themselves

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<v Speaker 3>to be left of center or right of center, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to have a conversation afterwards and practice the

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<v Speaker 3>very thing we need so much in this society day,

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<v Speaker 3>which is civil discourse. Questions you know are welcomed afterwards,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and that's one of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Things that we look forward to. So yeah, they do

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<v Speaker 2>ask that you register.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so Debrah like about that conversation. My perspective on

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<v Speaker 1>this and I've thought about this so much as how

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<v Speaker 1>do we how do we go because because as a

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<v Speaker 1>was in the schools all the time, we had a

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<v Speaker 1>great experience with our schools. We had a wonderful experience

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<v Speaker 1>with the teachers. Wonderful experience is just really positive experience

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<v Speaker 1>because we were involved parents. But it seems to me

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<v Speaker 1>that teachers have enough bad experiences with bad parents that

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<v Speaker 1>they then paint all parents with that broad brush. And

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<v Speaker 1>parents have that one bad experience with that bad teacher,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they paint all teachers with that broad rush,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like we have to start to recognize that

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking at outliers, right, We're looking at the extremes,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're now being used to justify any sort of

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<v Speaker 1>animosity on both sides, and I think that's unfortunate and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm but ultimately, well, both of those motives are how

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<v Speaker 1>can I protect my kids? Right, Teachers looking at their

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<v Speaker 1>kids going how can I protect these kids? But they're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at every parent as a problem. And same on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side. I just I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>bridge that gap necessarily.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think we need to get back to mutual respect.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, first of all, we asked the question whose

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<v Speaker 3>children are they? In Western civilization, the very building block,

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<v Speaker 3>cornerstone of Western civilization is the idea that parents have

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<v Speaker 3>the unique right and responsibility to guide their child's upbringing.

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<v Speaker 3>The kids do not belong to the government or the

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<v Speaker 3>state or the society as a whole.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a key.

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<v Speaker 3>Element respect for the parents' role. Then parents have respect

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<v Speaker 3>for teachers who have spent their lives getting a degree

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<v Speaker 3>to learn how to teach. But the magic happens when

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<v Speaker 3>there's mutual respect between both.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem that it's occurred.

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<v Speaker 3>Is groups like the teachers' unions that have their own

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<v Speaker 3>agendas getting in the middle of that golden triangle and

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<v Speaker 3>kind of exploding it. Or the fact that when there's

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<v Speaker 3>been a increase in students and in children of a

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<v Speaker 3>certain amount students and excuse me, and of teachers of

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<v Speaker 3>a certain amount that's twenty seventeen eighteen percent, administrators have

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<v Speaker 3>skyrocketed eighty five percent. It's one of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 3>you know there's less money going into the classroom. I

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<v Speaker 3>think every parent wants the teacher of their students to

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<v Speaker 3>have everything they need, a good income, resources for the classroom.

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<v Speaker 3>But we've got to come together and see why isn't working.

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<v Speaker 3>Because everyone knows that it isn't working. We're plummeting in academics.

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<v Speaker 3>Violence is up, all kinds of division is up. This

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<v Speaker 3>is about identifying it. But it's also, by the way, Mandy,

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<v Speaker 3>a really positive outlook towards the end of how this

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<v Speaker 3>is changing, with parents waking up, getting re engaged, and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Wanting to let teachers know, look, we're not the ones

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<v Speaker 2>to fear. We're here to support you, but.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to come together and understand that used to

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<v Speaker 3>be the teachers and the parents coordinating, not all these

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<v Speaker 3>external groups with ideologicals agendas that don't work in the classroom.

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<v Speaker 1>Debah Flora is my guest, Debb. Before I let you go,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard that you had another side project that is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you know what. I'm so glad you asked, Mandy.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I want to invite everyone to go to another

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<v Speaker 3>page on Facebook, which is Mandy ampersand Deb.

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<v Speaker 2>We're fancy Mandy and Deb.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I have this online streaming television show with an

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<v Speaker 3>amazing woman, Mandy Connell.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard she was amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>She's amazing, and you know, with a lot of focus groups,

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<v Speaker 3>we decided to mean the group that show Mandy and Deb.

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<v Speaker 3>Follow it at Mandy and Deb on Facebook. That's an

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<v Speaker 3>ampersand and we really have so much fun talking about

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<v Speaker 3>things that we all care about, but having a good

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<v Speaker 3>time at the same time. And it is for brave men.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the den of estrogen, but we do really

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<v Speaker 3>connect with in a way they talk about issues.

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<v Speaker 2>So I invite everybody. It's a fabulous one. I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>glad that you asked.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, a Rod just called it an estra den, so

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<v Speaker 1>we've not no and you can I heard that. You

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<v Speaker 1>can also see it on the Independence Institute's YouTube channel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's a court. Absolutely, that's where you watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>Go to Independence Institute's IV on YouTube and click subscribe.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so much fun and we have a lava lamp.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really all the.

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<v Speaker 1>People need to I mean, everyone should check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you so much, my friend. I will see

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<v Speaker 1>you soon.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds great. Thanks so much, man, you have a

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<v Speaker 2>great day.