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<v Speaker 1>Voices drift on winds untamed, where it's like spells that

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<v Speaker 1>can't be made. Close your eyes and feel the sound

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<v Speaker 1>journey where no bounds are found, open.

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<v Speaker 2>Doors inside your mind, the ordinary farm behind color swirl

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<v Speaker 2>the stars line in the Meta Mysteries, you'll find Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to Meta Mysteries, where you don't know what you don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Jonathan, and tonight is wonder weisday Baby.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the live show here for Meta Mysteries time

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<v Speaker 3>and tonight, of course we had to bring back our

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<v Speaker 3>boy Banks. Welcome back Optimistic Banks.

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<v Speaker 4>My good sir, Yeah, Sarah, good to be here. You

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<v Speaker 4>guys have been posting some really really cool, fun, interesting

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<v Speaker 4>esoteric witchery stuff and I just I've been having so

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<v Speaker 4>much fun following you guys along.

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<v Speaker 2>Heir.

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<v Speaker 5>Hell, we appreciate that, man, I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're just trying to get at the core what

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<v Speaker 3>is the underlying tone to all of this stuff? And

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<v Speaker 3>it is making so much more sense. And I gotta say,

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<v Speaker 3>ever since you've come on to this show and you've

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<v Speaker 3>explained the world a little bit differently, things just seem

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<v Speaker 3>to click into place a little bit easier now, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's great. So anyhow, welcome to the to the live show, everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be a fun night tonight. I'm sure we're

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<v Speaker 3>into our dms and and all of the good things.

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<v Speaker 3>You actually be able to be a part of the show.

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<v Speaker 3>And so we appreciate everybody that has been doing so already.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I mean, we've been having some awesome shows

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<v Speaker 3>here lately, dude. And just the other night we had

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<v Speaker 3>Lord Byron on the show and Eric Quedding on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, dude, I'm talking about like literally wrote books

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<v Speaker 3>on magic.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really fun seeing not only your Guys podcast, but

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<v Speaker 4>all the other podcast is too, that we're all kind

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<v Speaker 4>of connecting and like seeing. You know, I've been on

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<v Speaker 4>podcasts where Robert Grant's been on and like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>The Forbidden Knowledge, you know, Billy Carson, all those guys,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's like we're all kind of starting to spin

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<v Speaker 4>around the same circle. Now, guys, well done.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh for sure, dude. Yeah, it's interesting how that how

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<v Speaker 5>that works out, right, you start looking into something and

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<v Speaker 5>then your tribe kind of just appears.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, I think it was you know Young

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<v Speaker 4>who said Carl Young Psychologists who said, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>when you do work on yourself consciously, inevitably, like unknown

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<v Speaker 4>allies will begin to appear.

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<v Speaker 5>Mm hmmm. Yeah. Yeah, it's some magic to that for sure.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's something about just making conscious decisions, you know

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<v Speaker 3>that it completely changes your life instead of just accepting

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<v Speaker 3>everything that's right in front of you the way It

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<v Speaker 3>is nothing wrong with that either, but no, like.

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<v Speaker 4>It's taking back the creative force of your life. Rather

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<v Speaker 4>than reality happening to you now, it's happening from you, right,

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<v Speaker 4>And it's yeah, that creative force of intention and action

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<v Speaker 4>and like that continuation, you know, dude.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's so interesting too, like even though you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we've been covering these things and I and I feel

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<v Speaker 5>like I've got a pretty good understanding of what's possible

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<v Speaker 5>as far as transmuting a situation or just you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 5>changing my mindset just enough to go through a situation,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, with it at least the most ease is possible.

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<v Speaker 5>And then still have those days where it's like today sucks,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, like it's just.

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<v Speaker 4>The beauty of the yin and the yang Man's like

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<v Speaker 4>no matter, you will never find the one and only

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<v Speaker 4>answer because guess what, everything has to have its opposite.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I feel like when that happens, it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>there's something I needed to learn here obviously because I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't understand that aspect of it. You know, otherwise I

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<v Speaker 5>would have been able to just transmute it and whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a big part of the letting go process, right,

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<v Speaker 4>is just accepting that that existence as a paradox.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes it is.

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<v Speaker 4>It is an illusion. It is real, yes, uh dude.

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<v Speaker 3>And you need like you need the down time to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to really fully thrust yourself into the go time.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, like there's been times where whether you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm if I'm on a diet or if you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm really on my on my shit as far

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<v Speaker 3>as staying up with with the shows and guests and

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<v Speaker 3>really trying to hammer out as much information as we

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<v Speaker 3>possibly can and really try and understand as much as

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<v Speaker 3>we can. And I feel like, you know, there's there's

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<v Speaker 3>always going to be peaks and valleys to every single thing,

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<v Speaker 3>Like there's there's there's always going to be the highs

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<v Speaker 3>and the lows, and the level of excitement even it

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<v Speaker 3>it fluctuates, but yeah, man, it's just you know, once

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<v Speaker 3>once you kind of get on this track of trying

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<v Speaker 3>to understand it all, dude, the highs are the high

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<v Speaker 3>it's like higher highs all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, there's like another level to it, right where it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh my god, there's so much to know, so I'll

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<v Speaker 4>never really understand it. But at the same time, there's

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<v Speaker 4>so little to know because I'm everything. And it's like

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<v Speaker 4>the difference between like writing the illusion, experiencing the illusion

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<v Speaker 4>versus trying to study the illusion, right, because that's almost folly.

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<v Speaker 4>That's almost because any anything you study, you will will

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<v Speaker 4>you will find an infinite wormhole. Yeah right, So it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>what's the it just have fun.

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<v Speaker 3>You may as well. And I do feel like there's

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<v Speaker 3>some there's some underlying Like every single thing that we've uncovered,

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<v Speaker 3>we've been able to look at it through a specific

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<v Speaker 3>lens in in which it all makes sense if you

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<v Speaker 3>look at it through a certain lens. So for example,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, we've we've looked at things through a

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<v Speaker 3>pantheistic view, and that applies to just about everything. And

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know where it doesn't apply, to be

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<v Speaker 3>honest with you, like with if everything is everything and

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<v Speaker 3>and this is how magic works, and this is how

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<v Speaker 3>witchcraft works, this is how religion works. And you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, like absolutely you can apply yourself in

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<v Speaker 3>that sense. And so just the other night, we had

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<v Speaker 3>the other night. And this guy he's like super famous

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<v Speaker 3>within magic. His name is Eric Kuetting and very fascinating individual.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he said he wrote over thirty books on magic,

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<v Speaker 3>which is crazy, right and and very knowledgeable dude. He

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<v Speaker 3>said during one of his if if it wasn't his

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<v Speaker 3>first it was one of his first rituals that he

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<v Speaker 3>had ever done. And he said that he was calling

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<v Speaker 3>upon I don't know, some demon that he was working with.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember what his name was, King Pymon. Damn,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know where that just came from. But he

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<v Speaker 3>was working with this this deity named King Pymon or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>And so he, you know, he did the whole ritual.

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<v Speaker 3>He did the circle and then you know, the star

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<v Speaker 3>and the lighting the candle and whatever he was doing, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and he said that the demon appeared and and it

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<v Speaker 3>almost like frightened him a little bit because he was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't think that that was gonna work that way

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever. Right, almost frightened him a little bit. And

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<v Speaker 3>the demon asked him what his name was, and he goes,

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<v Speaker 3>my name is yode Vave, and dude, the demon responded

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<v Speaker 3>as if he was God. And I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god, this is pantheasm all over the fucking place

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<v Speaker 3>right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, that's very interesting. I actually really like that take. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I was actually recently doing some energy work with somebody

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<v Speaker 4>activating their sacral chakra and I got a download that

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<v Speaker 4>we were gonna challenge Channel the Tiger spirit animal within them.

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<v Speaker 4>And then like I was like doing all this crazy

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<v Speaker 4>energy work and like reiki work. It was all virtual, right,

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<v Speaker 4>And then I was like lighting these incense and then

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<v Speaker 4>my smoke alarm went off, which it never does, and

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<v Speaker 4>it was like all this and it was it happened

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<v Speaker 4>just at the moment where I said, we're calling upon

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<v Speaker 4>the flame of the tiger. Then my smoke alarm went off,

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<v Speaker 4>and then like the rage of the tiger manifested into

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<v Speaker 4>my roommate, who like came at me with like a rage.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was just like and I just kind of

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<v Speaker 4>witnessed it all and let it all kind of like settle.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was just like whoa, Like that really just

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<v Speaker 4>fucking happened right now.

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<v Speaker 5>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>That was really cool.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, channeling that spirit of fire in your smoke detectors, Like, hey, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>what's going on here?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, dude, the trip that is that is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of crazy. And what's funny is is is that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like a like a Chinese astrology kind of situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that what y'all were doing?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I mean it, I was just doing a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of the energy work that I do is in like

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like visualizing and reiki work and helping people

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of times when I do that, uh, it

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<v Speaker 4>appears to me as animals that move the energy. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>not all the time, I never know like how it

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<v Speaker 4>comes into me. Sometimes I see dragons doing like a

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<v Speaker 4>kundalini kind of a thing. And then this one, it

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<v Speaker 4>was just when I had my eyes closed, very vivid,

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<v Speaker 4>a tiger came in and so I was doing a

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<v Speaker 4>ritual of like, Okay, we're gonna call upon your tiger.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, imagine yourself walking in a forest and the

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<v Speaker 4>tiger comes up to you. You're not afraid of it,

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<v Speaker 4>You're walking side by side with it. We're like doing

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<v Speaker 4>all these kind of like visualization things as I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, moving around the energy and doing reyki and

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<v Speaker 4>lighting incense, and it was all just like exploded.

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<v Speaker 5>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>That energy was just built up into that room at

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<v Speaker 3>that point. Yeah, dude, I believe that has to be

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<v Speaker 3>a real thing, right, Like if we are, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>part of the All, right then, and if the All

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<v Speaker 3>created everything, then that magic or power or energy or

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<v Speaker 3>whatever definitely would have to reside within us. And if

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<v Speaker 3>all we are is essentially like just like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>look at us, maybe like we're these magic crystals in

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<v Speaker 3>a sense, and but we have the we have the

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<v Speaker 3>ability to speak, or we have the ability to manifest

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<v Speaker 3>by speaking at that point, and we're just we're just

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<v Speaker 3>like these power or frequency generators. That it's so interesting

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<v Speaker 3>to look at it through that lens because I think

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<v Speaker 3>that if you're doing that, it's almost like you start

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<v Speaker 3>to slow down every time you come to speak it

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<v Speaker 3>because you realize the power of your words in that sense,

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<v Speaker 4>Eastern monks, you know, they take a lot of them

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<v Speaker 4>spiritual help. Right, so they're like very careful about each

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Oh dude, if and we've talked about Pythagoras,

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, there's some power there, man, when you when you

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<v Speaker 5>when you really quiet everything down. Dude. I mean that's

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's the purpose of the Dark Knight of the Soul, right,

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<v Speaker 4>Like why we all kind of have to like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it might be, to kind of only listen to myself

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's that's for sure. That's a real thing, man,

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<v Speaker 5>it really is. Yeah, so super.

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<v Speaker 3>Markey said something interesting. H first off said, what up everyone,

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you guys for coming and hanging out with us tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>This is one of the biggest crowds we've we've had

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<v Speaker 3>for the show, So thank you guys.

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<v Speaker 5>Need I needed this tonight. I needed it after a

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<v Speaker 5>day like today. I really needed tonight the wonder wizday.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh dude, same we Uh we went to go eat

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<v Speaker 3>some Chinese buffet earlier and uh, you know, tiger or

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<v Speaker 3>what it put me into the hibernating tiger. Uh kind

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<v Speaker 3>of scent, but uh but yeah, we do. We went home,

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<v Speaker 3>how I just woke up because that was perfect timing.

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<v Speaker 3>I probably could have slept all through the night. But

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, anyway, Marky said, uh, what is the flame

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<v Speaker 3>of the tiger? Very interested, as I do reiki as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a fire tiger in Chinese astrology.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh interesting, So I mean, uh, you know, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>using traditional reiki. I mean, I am a level three,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, master reiki practitioner, I wasn't using I don't

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<v Speaker 4>use traditional reiki man our little you know, chalk chalk today,

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<v Speaker 4>chalk today, chalk today, that kind of stuff. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>but like I was working with the sacral chakra, right,

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<v Speaker 4>which is the orange chakra, which is I'm assuming why

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<v Speaker 4>the tiger came to me? Right, and uh, I just

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<v Speaker 4>do a lot of you know, kind of how I

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<v Speaker 4>see the world is how inside out right, Like why

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<v Speaker 4>is the tiger orange? Why does it have two eyes?

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<v Speaker 4>Why does it walk this way? Like? And it's all

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<v Speaker 4>the representation of how it manifested into existence, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>what they represent essentially, right, So, like a tiger is

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like a sensual being, which is also sacral

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<v Speaker 4>chakra sensuality. They are very creative, they're loners all these

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<v Speaker 4>kind of things. So the flame of the dragon, I

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<v Speaker 4>guess I don't. I just I was just channeling, bro

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<v Speaker 4>and it just came to me. And when I'm doing that,

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of just let it flow, you know what I.

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<v Speaker 5>Mean, don't resist it, man, Yeah, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I was I was just looking up how people are

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<v Speaker 3>able to calculate like there and we've done a show

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<v Speaker 3>on Chinese astrology and stuff like that. But their new

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<v Speaker 3>year starts on a the is it the first full

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<v Speaker 3>moon of the year, because it's based upon the Chinese

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<v Speaker 3>lunar calendar.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, that's I'm a water dragon.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm a golden horse. I just just found that

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<v Speaker 3>one out. But so Sean, just out of curiosity. So

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<v Speaker 3>you would be.

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<v Speaker 5>Rabbit, but I don't know, I could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>You were born in eighty seven, yes, sir, yes, so

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<v Speaker 3>you would be a rabbit. And I'm trying to figure

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<v Speaker 3>out which if you were fire or metal or something

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<v Speaker 3>like that. But anyway, Oh, so you're a rabbit, you said,

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<v Speaker 3>here we go, So the rabbit of nineteen eighty seven

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<v Speaker 3>would be a fire rabbit.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, all right, I'll take it. Heh yeah, hell yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>all right.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, anybody else is interested, we can look that

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<v Speaker 3>up too. That's it's pretty cool looking at it, especially.

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<v Speaker 4>It is man and you you you can pull information

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<v Speaker 4>from all that stuff. Like you know, again, like I've

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<v Speaker 4>always said, like being a mystic, I really believe in,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, taking what resonates and leaving the rest, not

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<v Speaker 4>judging anything, not being like, oh I'm not gonna learn

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<v Speaker 4>anything from this because this is because the rest of

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<v Speaker 4>it's too weird. Like nah, like you know, we we

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<v Speaker 4>we can kind of like pick and choose what resonates

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<v Speaker 4>with us to kind of build our own truths, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, dude, Yeah, it is makes too much sense, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>But for some people that's just crazy. Dude, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't if people don't know that they're God yet,

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<v Speaker 4>that's crazy talk, right, you know that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I love saying that too, because it's it's almost like

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<v Speaker 3>some people get a little antsy when you say, what

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<v Speaker 3>do you say we're God?

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<v Speaker 4>Because because we are and we aren't, So I ain't

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<v Speaker 4>mad at him for getting a little triggered by it.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, we are the imaginer and the imagination

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<v Speaker 4>and to be to make a creation, you have to

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<v Speaker 4>let go of it at the illusion of letting go

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<v Speaker 4>of it, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Which does make sense too, especially with the like the

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<v Speaker 3>double slit experiment, you know, just the fact that just

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<v Speaker 3>by us looking at photons going through a slit would

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<v Speaker 3>cause them to react a little bit differently. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>does that I don't know, is that something that God

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<v Speaker 3>would be able to do just by looking at something

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<v Speaker 3>would be able to manipulate the outcome.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that that's the infinite nature of the holographic universe, right.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, so because there's so much infinite free will,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like if we take that all the way full circle,

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<v Speaker 4>it's almost like there is no free will. That's where

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<v Speaker 4>you get back to the N and yang again, that

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<v Speaker 4>there is and there isn't, right, because it's so infinite

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<v Speaker 4>that within everything infinite, it's perfect. Still, it's pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, dude, Yeah, it's so wild. How I just

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<v Speaker 3>love learning about all this stuff. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 3>there was this I made this video the other day

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<v Speaker 3>for our TikTok or Instagram and it was about eclectic

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<v Speaker 3>witchcraft and just trying to find it so people would

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<v Speaker 3>understand what it means. I mean, to be honest and

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<v Speaker 3>to be fair, we didn't know what it meant before

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<v Speaker 3>we did that that episode on it. Yeah, because there's

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<v Speaker 3>so many different types of witchcraft. You would never even guess, dude, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>there are so many different types, you know, And so

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<v Speaker 3>we were covering it and we made that video and

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<v Speaker 3>and somebody was like, but why do you got to

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<v Speaker 3>put a name on it? I was like, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to I mean, I'm just saying that this is,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, how it is defined, that's all.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I just showed that person where they need

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<v Speaker 4>some healing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it's like, look, if you want to

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<v Speaker 3>be like Kevin Gates and say I know there's a

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<v Speaker 3>name for it, but I don't know what to call it,

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<v Speaker 3>that's totally fine too. But it almost reminded me of

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<v Speaker 3>like the term paganism. It kind of bothers me a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit because it's too much of a catch all term,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, oh yeah, and I think that we've grown

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<v Speaker 4>up kind of in a you know, anglos, let's say,

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<v Speaker 4>Christian kind of you know, background of society. Right, So

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<v Speaker 4>it's like when you hear that, we almost naturally get triggered, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>that's like anti Christian or something, or anti good or

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<v Speaker 4>something like that. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying to to all non Jews. We're

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<v Speaker 3>all gentiles, but to be called a gentile, you're like, wait,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't want to be called something a

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<v Speaker 3>name that you made up for me because I don't

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<v Speaker 5>You know. I mean I think that's why we don't

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<v Speaker 5>even need to be triggered, you know, because you're listening

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<v Speaker 5>to somebody call you something that exists only in their

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<v Speaker 5>worldview and not in yours, and so within your worldview,

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<v Speaker 5>that's kind of irrelevant. Yeah you're going to hell, No,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, And you know, the more I think the

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<v Speaker 4>more that you awaken, let's say, the more you become enlightened,

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<v Speaker 4>the less opinionated you become. You're just like, okay, cool, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you dandy. You are who you are. I think that's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you don't love me for who I am,

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<v Speaker 4>that's cool too. You know, I don't have any opinions

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<v Speaker 4>about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Mm hmm. Yeah. What I do usually is, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>if someone's talking to me about, you know, what they

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<v Speaker 5>believe in, I just tell them they're right, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>like yeah, you're probably oh yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's like the real job of the mystic right

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<v Speaker 4>is to become like a window or a mirror, right, like,

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and that's something that we found out too. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like if you go around and tell everybody what you are.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to come up with a million ways to

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<v Speaker 3>tell you why you're not that and U or why

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<v Speaker 3>you're wrong or or something like that. And I've really

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<v Speaker 3>gotten into the modality of just like, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not trying to preach from the rooftops, you know, all

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<v Speaker 3>of this stuff about like you know what what we

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<v Speaker 3>the world and stuff like that. I'm almost like, I'll,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if somebody asks, I'll, I'll say it, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm no longer like trying to convince anybody about it.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's almost like, I imagine that's what the the

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't like going around prostlytizing saying you are God,

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<v Speaker 3>you forgot I can't believe you forgot, but you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean, I imagine they probably aren't doing that.

419
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<v Speaker 5>I think that's why they would call it like the initiated,

420
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<v Speaker 5>because you're not, you know, trying to force somebody to

421
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<v Speaker 5>believe that you are looking for that now, you know

422
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<v Speaker 5>what I mean, And that's when the information comes because

423
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<v Speaker 5>now you're open to even looking into something other than

424
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<v Speaker 5>what you already knew.

425
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I think in ancient times, and we might

426
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<v Speaker 4>have touched on this before, but I feel like in

427
00:21:28.519 --> 00:21:31.000
<v Speaker 4>ancient times, you know, because they were so much more

428
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<v Speaker 4>connected to nature, it was pretty obvious to them that

429
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<v Speaker 4>they could kind of go outside and be like, oh,

430
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<v Speaker 4>I see the metaphors and everything, right, Like, oh, there's

431
00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:45.319
<v Speaker 4>one son, but there's like infinite plants, and like they're

432
00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:47.559
<v Speaker 4>all growing different ways, but they're all reaching for the

433
00:21:47.640 --> 00:21:51.160
<v Speaker 4>same sun. Like what right, you know, there's kind of

434
00:21:51.160 --> 00:21:53.359
<v Speaker 4>a metaphor in there, right, that it's like one thing

435
00:21:53.519 --> 00:21:57.559
<v Speaker 4>expressed in infinite ways and that that kind of stuff,

436
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<v Speaker 4>And just I think that the mystics of you know,

437
00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:03.279
<v Speaker 4>when when babies would come into the world, they were like,

438
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<v Speaker 4>well you made it all right, another another one of us,

439
00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:09.200
<v Speaker 4>another god incarnate? How cool?

440
00:22:09.920 --> 00:22:12.079
<v Speaker 5>Right? And that was Yeah. I was gonna ask you

441
00:22:12.119 --> 00:22:14.480
<v Speaker 5>about that actually because I actually not to cut you off,

442
00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:16.960
<v Speaker 5>but I saw a video of some guy, you know,

443
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<v Speaker 5>and it looked like he probably comes from a particular faith,

444
00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:21.680
<v Speaker 5>but he's like on his way out, you know, and

445
00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:25.559
<v Speaker 5>he was like before all of these structured religions came

446
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<v Speaker 5>about and all the different you know, teachings and writings

447
00:22:28.680 --> 00:22:31.160
<v Speaker 5>and what were people believing in, you know, And then

448
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<v Speaker 5>I was gonna ask like, what do you think as

449
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<v Speaker 5>far as that goes, like is it just deeply ingrained

450
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<v Speaker 5>in us to look at something higher than us? Or

451
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<v Speaker 5>or do you think like you just said, like, you know,

452
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<v Speaker 5>we we kind of just understood nature, you know, and

453
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<v Speaker 5>kind of went yeah, I mean.

454
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<v Speaker 4>I think I think it's both like like, you know,

455
00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:51.000
<v Speaker 4>it's the paradox at the end of the Yang, and

456
00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:53.200
<v Speaker 4>but also just thought like, okay, let's take it back

457
00:22:53.240 --> 00:22:58.640
<v Speaker 4>to like tribalism. You know, it was very much I

458
00:22:58.720 --> 00:23:01.119
<v Speaker 4>believe that they look around and they understood that they

459
00:23:01.279 --> 00:23:05.519
<v Speaker 4>were the earth, right that they they understood they looked

460
00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:08.400
<v Speaker 4>at their skin and the you know, brown skin, brown earth,

461
00:23:08.519 --> 00:23:11.240
<v Speaker 4>and they could tell that they had two eyes and

462
00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:14.000
<v Speaker 4>the fox had two eyes, that there is a connection there, right,

463
00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:15.799
<v Speaker 4>And there was just kind of, you know, just a

464
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<v Speaker 4>very simple understanding of how everything was was connected. And

465
00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:26.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, they had medicine men shamans who would have

466
00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:30.759
<v Speaker 4>visions and go into the unseen realms, and then they

467
00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:34.359
<v Speaker 4>would express that through song and dance and painting and

468
00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:38.359
<v Speaker 4>all of those things basically kept on manifesting outward infinitely

469
00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:41.839
<v Speaker 4>in different versions of things. And but that's basically what's

470
00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:45.440
<v Speaker 4>still happening now, you know, it's just evolved.

471
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<v Speaker 5>Indeed, dude.

472
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<v Speaker 3>You know what's funny too is speaking of you know,

473
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<v Speaker 3>maybe the elders or the shamans or whatever of that

474
00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:57.680
<v Speaker 3>of those times and just understanding how they were able

475
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<v Speaker 3>to make certain certain magical things from regular elements. So

476
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<v Speaker 3>for example, I just I just saw a video of

477
00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:10.720
<v Speaker 3>Terrence mckinna and and he was talking about like, you know,

478
00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:13.920
<v Speaker 3>what's crazy is is that there are there are two

479
00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:17.799
<v Speaker 3>main compounds within ayahuasca. One comes from bark and one

480
00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:24.000
<v Speaker 3>comes from something else, and singularly, by themselves, they are unactivated,

481
00:24:24.160 --> 00:24:27.720
<v Speaker 3>like they they do nothing by themselves. But somehow these

482
00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:31.039
<v Speaker 3>people knew to combine these two elements and it would

483
00:24:31.039 --> 00:24:34.960
<v Speaker 3>give you a psychedelic run for your life. It's like,

484
00:24:35.319 --> 00:24:37.759
<v Speaker 3>there would be no reason to combine these two But

485
00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:39.680
<v Speaker 3>where did they Where did they come up with the

486
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<v Speaker 3>idea to do so?

487
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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't an accident?

488
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I believe that the tribes say that the

489
00:24:46.480 --> 00:24:47.480
<v Speaker 4>plants told them.

490
00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:53.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, dude, like what the plants you see?

491
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<v Speaker 4>And it's funny because I work with a lot of

492
00:24:54.640 --> 00:24:56.279
<v Speaker 4>people and a lot of people have, you know, a

493
00:24:56.319 --> 00:24:59.400
<v Speaker 4>fear based mentality of spiritual stuff. A lot of people

494
00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:03.359
<v Speaker 4>are worried of even you know, doing things with nature,

495
00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:05.640
<v Speaker 4>and like, you know, how do you know that? You

496
00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:08.039
<v Speaker 4>know when you do mushrooms that the mushrooms aren't lying

497
00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:10.960
<v Speaker 4>to you, right, like things like that, And I'm like, yo,

498
00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:15.640
<v Speaker 4>they don't even have that concept, right right, well, they

499
00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:19.039
<v Speaker 4>don't even know what lying is. Only we know what

500
00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:20.319
<v Speaker 4>that is saying.

501
00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:22.000
<v Speaker 5>And you know what's funny too about that is when

502
00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:24.440
<v Speaker 5>someone's lying to you, for the most part, you kind

503
00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:26.880
<v Speaker 5>of we're good at that. We're good as human beings.

504
00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:29.160
<v Speaker 5>I think we're really good at kind of catching catching

505
00:25:29.240 --> 00:25:31.319
<v Speaker 5>that kind of stuff. But when you're getting messages and

506
00:25:31.400 --> 00:25:35.039
<v Speaker 5>you're getting some type of understanding of something, it just

507
00:25:35.160 --> 00:25:36.640
<v Speaker 5>feels true, you know.

508
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<v Speaker 3>So dude, I actually I've really been kind of going

509
00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:45.680
<v Speaker 3>and spending my own mind a little bit just about

510
00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:50.519
<v Speaker 3>like aliens and stuff here lately, right, and it almost

511
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<v Speaker 3>seems like forget the idea of aliens and maybe let's

512
00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:57.720
<v Speaker 3>just look at it like it's just consciousness. Yes, And

513
00:25:58.559 --> 00:26:02.119
<v Speaker 3>because the crazy thing is is that I've had some

514
00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:08.559
<v Speaker 3>crazy experiences on DMT and mushrooms and four eco DMT

515
00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:12.240
<v Speaker 3>and like all these wild things that seem very alien,

516
00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:15.839
<v Speaker 3>and it seems like I'm having conversations with something outside

517
00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:18.519
<v Speaker 3>of me that is of a higher realm. Let's just

518
00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:22.039
<v Speaker 3>say that. And some people might say, well, that was angels,

519
00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:25.279
<v Speaker 3>or that was aliens, or that was you know, what

520
00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:28.400
<v Speaker 3>have you. Maybe it was your ancestors or something like that.

521
00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:33.680
<v Speaker 3>It's like, man, I don't know. Maybe it's possible that

522
00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:36.279
<v Speaker 3>aliens could be coming from another planet. I'm not gonna

523
00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:39.559
<v Speaker 3>say it's impossible, but I think that it's more than

524
00:26:39.759 --> 00:26:43.759
<v Speaker 3>likely that these things are almost just existing interdimensionally. They're

525
00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:48.039
<v Speaker 3>existing within the ether. It's just fucking consciousness and information

526
00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:51.440
<v Speaker 3>that is out there. It's unseen to our human naked eye. Like,

527
00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:54.359
<v Speaker 3>what is your concept an understanding of aliens in general?

528
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<v Speaker 4>I love everything that you just said. Yeah, and that's

529
00:26:57.000 --> 00:26:59.640
<v Speaker 4>why it is a projection of consciousness. And that's why

530
00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:02.720
<v Speaker 4>the videos are always grainy. They seem to be just

531
00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:06.920
<v Speaker 4>out of reach, right, that's not a coincidence. It's because

532
00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:09.640
<v Speaker 4>it is a projection of consciousness how we're perceiving them.

533
00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:12.039
<v Speaker 4>And I also like to think of the Earth as

534
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:14.240
<v Speaker 4>like you know, a body and a mind, right, and

535
00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:16.279
<v Speaker 4>that like we are, we are part of that. So

536
00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:21.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, these higher beings, let's say, they're almost like

537
00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:26.720
<v Speaker 4>the the higher understanding of the mind that maybe hasn't

538
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:29.839
<v Speaker 4>really become conscious yet, and so it's like, you know,

539
00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:33.920
<v Speaker 4>it's a foreign idea to our mind. So when that

540
00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:39.920
<v Speaker 4>is created in a physical reality, our mind will create

541
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:44.839
<v Speaker 4>that feeling in the physical form to make it look strange,

542
00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:49.079
<v Speaker 4>look foreign. It's above us, it's just out of reach.

543
00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:53.960
<v Speaker 4>It's all kind of like a reflection of like new downloads,

544
00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:58.640
<v Speaker 4>new ideas, kind of coming into being. It's one way

545
00:27:58.680 --> 00:28:01.279
<v Speaker 4>of looking at it. But I think, yeah, I think

546
00:28:01.319 --> 00:28:05.359
<v Speaker 4>that generally speaking, people have been seeing alien since the

547
00:28:05.400 --> 00:28:09.400
<v Speaker 4>beginning of time. Maybe not immateial, but definitely in meditation. Yeah,

548
00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:13.640
<v Speaker 4>like meditation, prayer, visions, this kind of stuff, you know,

549
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:18.559
<v Speaker 4>and that you know, they aren't coming down to us,

550
00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:21.680
<v Speaker 4>We are raising up to them, which is why they're

551
00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:22.960
<v Speaker 4>becoming more and more material.

552
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:26.559
<v Speaker 3>Makes sense. Yeah, And we've talked about that with like

553
00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:29.920
<v Speaker 3>red shifting and blue shifting, which is essentially raising your

554
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:33.000
<v Speaker 3>vibration or they them lowering their vibration and meeting you

555
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:35.839
<v Speaker 3>in the middle kind of in that sense, dude. But

556
00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:39.279
<v Speaker 3>what's weird is is that you know, we've gone outside

557
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:42.519
<v Speaker 3>and we've seen like wild orbs, bro like things that

558
00:28:43.119 --> 00:28:45.359
<v Speaker 3>are not camera flair as I'm talking about, Like we

559
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:49.519
<v Speaker 3>were able to see these things with our eyes, and uh,

560
00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:51.680
<v Speaker 3>we don't know exactly what the hell we're looking at.

561
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:54.759
<v Speaker 3>It almost just looks like these iridescent bubbles like Glenda

562
00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:57.640
<v Speaker 3>the the fucking Goodwitch or whatever her name was. It's like,

563
00:28:58.359 --> 00:28:59.799
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what they are.

564
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:02.759
<v Speaker 5>But what do you think that is?

565
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:04.559
<v Speaker 3>Like have you seen one of these orbs?

566
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:06.480
<v Speaker 4>Like you go, I see them all the time. You know,

567
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:09.559
<v Speaker 4>my friend Sean Life Pat thirty three, my other buddy Sean,

568
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:13.359
<v Speaker 4>you know, he's an et soul and anytime we go out,

569
00:29:13.640 --> 00:29:16.759
<v Speaker 4>you know, do psychedelic trips or just you know, camping

570
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:18.960
<v Speaker 4>trips or even just out in the middle of Hollywood,

571
00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:21.079
<v Speaker 4>he can like point them out and call them in

572
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:23.119
<v Speaker 4>and they come closer and closer. And I think that

573
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:26.839
<v Speaker 4>you know that this is in a way kind of

574
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:30.240
<v Speaker 4>like a simulation, kind of like a holographic simulation, so

575
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:36.240
<v Speaker 4>that you know, they render differently as you approach. Right,

576
00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:40.160
<v Speaker 4>So like if you look at the planets, let's say

577
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:43.680
<v Speaker 4>through like a camera at planet Earth, like it'll they'll

578
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:46.480
<v Speaker 4>appear as like orbs of light with like different frequencies.

579
00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:49.200
<v Speaker 4>But then perhaps if we send a satellite out there,

580
00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:52.640
<v Speaker 4>as that satellite gets closer and closer, it renders as

581
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:55.559
<v Speaker 4>a physical planet. I think that there's a bit of

582
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:57.519
<v Speaker 4>a video game kind of a thing going on with

583
00:29:57.599 --> 00:29:59.440
<v Speaker 4>this as well. You know, not to say that it

584
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:01.319
<v Speaker 4>all still is. God, it all still is, And it's

585
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:05.160
<v Speaker 4>a very fun simulation illusion that we're being immersed in.

586
00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:06.319
<v Speaker 5>Dude.

587
00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:09.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I'm just trying to figure it all

588
00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:12.759
<v Speaker 3>out my damn self. And it does seem like, you know,

589
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:16.839
<v Speaker 3>if you're in that calm or high vibing or meditative

590
00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:19.240
<v Speaker 3>state and you go outside, like, dude, if you go

591
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:22.039
<v Speaker 3>outside as soon as you're done meditating and look up

592
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:24.640
<v Speaker 3>at the night sky, you're almost guaranteed to see one.

593
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh and what's that about?

594
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:26.920
<v Speaker 4>You know?

595
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:31.200
<v Speaker 3>Is it because you're you're lifting You lifted yourself up

596
00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:33.839
<v Speaker 3>vibrationally that allowed these things to be able to become

597
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:34.960
<v Speaker 3>a little bit more visible.

598
00:30:35.559 --> 00:30:37.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because I think that they they don't communicate with

599
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:40.200
<v Speaker 4>like verbal language the way that we do. So it's

600
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:42.599
<v Speaker 4>almost like as we elevate our consciousness. We're getting to

601
00:30:43.079 --> 00:30:46.599
<v Speaker 4>a place where we can communicate. And even if it

602
00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:48.759
<v Speaker 4>doesn't seem like you're communicating, you know, it's again it's

603
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:54.160
<v Speaker 4>beyond spoken language, so you are communicating. It might not

604
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:57.240
<v Speaker 4>even be conscious. It might slowly come up later from

605
00:30:57.279 --> 00:30:58.079
<v Speaker 4>the subconscious.

606
00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:01.440
<v Speaker 5>Yes, dude, just think about you know, how you how

607
00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:03.640
<v Speaker 5>you feel when you see something like that, Like it

608
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:06.759
<v Speaker 5>still amazes me to see anything like that. Like I

609
00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:08.559
<v Speaker 5>used to look for these things all the time, like

610
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:11.599
<v Speaker 5>way before we started doing the podcast, and it was

611
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:14.279
<v Speaker 5>more along the lines like, of course there's aliens, you know,

612
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:16.640
<v Speaker 5>like in my mind, of course there's aliens. Of course

613
00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:18.640
<v Speaker 5>there's but I think I was thinking more of like

614
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:20.680
<v Speaker 5>the nuts and bolts aspect of it, right, you know,

615
00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:23.599
<v Speaker 5>and that they're coming here, and you know. And then

616
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:27.400
<v Speaker 5>and I never saw anything anything of interest, any orbs,

617
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:30.279
<v Speaker 5>anything like that. And then we start kind of diving into,

618
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:32.759
<v Speaker 5>you know, what we've been looking into, and all of

619
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:35.880
<v Speaker 5>a sudden things start to happen, you know, and it's like, oh,

620
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:38.039
<v Speaker 5>this isn't what I thought it was at all. And

621
00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:40.160
<v Speaker 5>the feeling that you get when you see something like that,

622
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:44.160
<v Speaker 5>where something just gets super bright out of nowhere and

623
00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:46.559
<v Speaker 5>then just dims out, or or you see a flash

624
00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:48.880
<v Speaker 5>of light and it's like, what was that? You know

625
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:50.559
<v Speaker 5>what I mean? That was definitely not a satellite. It

626
00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:53.880
<v Speaker 5>wasn't a star or some some you know, uh, I

627
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:56.119
<v Speaker 5>don't know, just a random light in the sky. It

628
00:31:56.279 --> 00:31:59.160
<v Speaker 5>was like a like a intentional Yeah.

629
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<v Speaker 4>And I think that I think that the timing of

630
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:03.079
<v Speaker 4>all this is really perfect. And the way that they

631
00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:06.319
<v Speaker 4>are let's say, kind of exposing themselves to us is

632
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:09.200
<v Speaker 4>really perfect because you know, what I'm really passionate about

633
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:12.880
<v Speaker 4>is that now that we know you know that obviously

634
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:17.640
<v Speaker 4>that's aliens, interventional higher consciousness beings are real, they visit us.

635
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:21.079
<v Speaker 4>There's advanced technology. Now we know that this is real.

636
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:24.480
<v Speaker 4>You know, we we're all starting to comprehend that we've

637
00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:28.039
<v Speaker 4>kind of had this lost century of like physical technology advancement.

638
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:30.759
<v Speaker 4>It's all been kind of a digitized advancement, you know,

639
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:34.599
<v Speaker 4>and that these you know, the powers that be, private corporations,

640
00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:37.359
<v Speaker 4>you know, dark forces, whatever you want to call it,

641
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:41.039
<v Speaker 4>that they got these advanced technologies that could really change

642
00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:44.400
<v Speaker 4>the world. That you know, free energy, like you know,

643
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:49.440
<v Speaker 4>airplanes would be obsolete, you know, ending world hunger like

644
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.440
<v Speaker 4>every and this is being held back from us, and

645
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:55.400
<v Speaker 4>I think that you know, them making themselves more and

646
00:32:55.559 --> 00:33:01.119
<v Speaker 4>more prevalent, is bringing these type of conversations to the forefront,

647
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:03.759
<v Speaker 4>which is we need, we need to bring the power back.

648
00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:07.240
<v Speaker 3>With that dude, it's almost like it just reminds me

649
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:09.400
<v Speaker 3>of that stick song. And I'm a huge Steelers fan,

650
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:12.440
<v Speaker 3>so it's our fight song. But it's like, uh, the

651
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:15.599
<v Speaker 3>jig is up. No, the jig is up, the news

652
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:18.920
<v Speaker 3>is out. They finally found me. It almost just reminds

653
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:20.880
<v Speaker 3>me of something like that's what's going on with the

654
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:24.000
<v Speaker 3>alien kind of stuff, because you were saying it is

655
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:27.319
<v Speaker 3>very peculiar timing that it's happening way more now than

656
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:30.559
<v Speaker 3>than in the in our lives, the you know, the

657
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:32.799
<v Speaker 3>all the past of our lives.

658
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:36.240
<v Speaker 4>Definitely, Man, as you awaken, the world awakens. It's not

659
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:38.759
<v Speaker 4>a surprise, right, It's like as you like, you know,

660
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:41.319
<v Speaker 4>we grew up watching ancient Aliens and knowing nine to

661
00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:43.079
<v Speaker 4>eleven was an inside job and all that kind of

662
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:45.799
<v Speaker 4>crazy conspiracy stuff. But then you have a spiritual awakening

663
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:49.720
<v Speaker 4>and you're like, oh, it's all connected, holy shit.

664
00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:52.119
<v Speaker 5>And it's so much more than that. It's so much

665
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:52.680
<v Speaker 5>more than that.

666
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:55.720
<v Speaker 4>But it yeah, and then you're like okay, yes, yes, yes,

667
00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:59.000
<v Speaker 4>now what now what can I do? But it does

668
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:01.839
<v Speaker 4>seem like to awaken and as you all these ideas

669
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:04.839
<v Speaker 4>start to forming, it's manifesting in reality.

670
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:06.480
<v Speaker 5>Dude.

671
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:09.519
<v Speaker 3>You know what though, And we're gonna be having a

672
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:12.320
<v Speaker 3>guy on that's gonna he's gonna be coming on in

673
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:15.000
<v Speaker 3>a couple of weeks and he along with a bunch

674
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:17.719
<v Speaker 3>of people in his crew, they go out to the

675
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:21.599
<v Speaker 3>deserts and you know, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, and they

676
00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:24.880
<v Speaker 3>do like the CE five kind of stuff from Steven Greer, right,

677
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:29.440
<v Speaker 3>but they are like gung ho for sure that the

678
00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:31.119
<v Speaker 3>orbs that you're seeing up in the sky are the

679
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:31.760
<v Speaker 3>tall whites.

680
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:32.239
<v Speaker 4>Right.

681
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:35.280
<v Speaker 3>Then you get you talk to our boor electro Nick, well,

682
00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:37.880
<v Speaker 3>they're for sure Pleaadians. And you talk to some other

683
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.400
<v Speaker 3>people there for sure demonic and you talk to some

684
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:44.199
<v Speaker 3>other people there for sure angels, right, or put whatever

685
00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:47.760
<v Speaker 3>flair you want on it. I mean, I don't know

686
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:50.119
<v Speaker 3>what to do with it or what to call them.

687
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:52.519
<v Speaker 3>Does it even matter what we call them or where

688
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:53.400
<v Speaker 3>they come from.

689
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:55.599
<v Speaker 4>Or it matters how you feel about it and the

690
00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:58.639
<v Speaker 4>energy that you're sending to it, because that's the timeline

691
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:05.360
<v Speaker 4>that you're going to enter. All possibilities exist. I know,

692
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:09.280
<v Speaker 4>it's crazy. They all exist. You get to choose.

693
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:13.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is kind of crazy. It feels like that too, though,

694
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:16.519
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, Like it almost showing.

695
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:18.039
<v Speaker 4>You the infinite possibilities. Do you want it to be

696
00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:19.519
<v Speaker 4>an angel? Do you want it to be a demon?

697
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:21.119
<v Speaker 4>Do you want it to be a cool alien you're

698
00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:23.800
<v Speaker 4>gonna be friends with? Are you so you have so

699
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:25.920
<v Speaker 4>much power in your fear that you want it to

700
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:28.599
<v Speaker 4>be a reptilian? Like you know, it's whatever you want?

701
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:30.519
<v Speaker 5>Mm hmmm dum.

702
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:33.760
<v Speaker 3>It does feel like that, like I'm not gonna lie

703
00:35:33.880 --> 00:35:37.039
<v Speaker 3>ever since I did the whole DMT thing, Like I'm

704
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:39.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at the world in an entirely different way,

705
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:43.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, And it almost feels like very I'm not

706
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:46.079
<v Speaker 3>gonna be like one of those people that like, I

707
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:48.360
<v Speaker 3>don't know if it's like the Truman Show kind of thing,

708
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:52.960
<v Speaker 3>but it almost feels like it's for me in a sense,

709
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:54.679
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. I'm not saying that it's

710
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:56.599
<v Speaker 3>for me and for nobody else, but I feel like

711
00:35:56.679 --> 00:36:01.159
<v Speaker 3>it's for each and every individual, the observer.

712
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:05.679
<v Speaker 4>And project the projector and recorder of your universe. Yeah,

713
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:07.280
<v Speaker 4>you are the center because everything is.

714
00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Well at that point, it almost becomes like you know

715
00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:14.719
<v Speaker 3>what Bisharre amongst any other people have talked about, like

716
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:18.079
<v Speaker 3>with the many worlds interpretation. Yes, it's like are you

717
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:23.400
<v Speaker 3>shifting realities? You know, multiple times a second or you know,

718
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:27.400
<v Speaker 3>multiple times a minute, dependent upon the energy that you're

719
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:29.800
<v Speaker 3>putting off, And the energy that you're putting off is

720
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:33.440
<v Speaker 3>almost a reflection of it's the environment reflecting it all

721
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:36.159
<v Speaker 3>the way back to you every single time. You know, Like,

722
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:38.239
<v Speaker 3>are you somebody that prescribes to that?

723
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:41.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think that is a useful way of looking

724
00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:45.199
<v Speaker 4>at it. Again, our cuny human minds are trying to

725
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:49.360
<v Speaker 4>comprehend what is actually not really you know, really meant

726
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:52.280
<v Speaker 4>to be comprehendible. But I think that is a useful

727
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:57.719
<v Speaker 4>way to look at it. And I think that that

728
00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:01.639
<v Speaker 4>there are with you know that there are infinite timelines

729
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:05.679
<v Speaker 4>and within infinite within every infinite timeline, everything is perfectly

730
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:06.079
<v Speaker 4>set up.

731
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:10.840
<v Speaker 5>And this is why shifting your attention on something or

732
00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:14.280
<v Speaker 5>or shifting into a different energy of something, trying to

733
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:17.559
<v Speaker 5>embody a different energy. That's why that works, because it's

734
00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:20.639
<v Speaker 5>already set up as long as you pay that attention

735
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:21.039
<v Speaker 5>to it.

736
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:24.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think that we're like we're the mind experiencing

737
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:30.679
<v Speaker 4>the body, like we're the awareness experiencing material matter. Right

738
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:32.320
<v Speaker 4>almost you can look at like, you know, like outer

739
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:34.599
<v Speaker 4>space is the mind and earth is the body, or

740
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:38.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, the awareness is the mind, but the actual

741
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:42.199
<v Speaker 4>the phone, the body, the earth, the trees is the body,

742
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:49.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, and so mind over body, right, it's literally

743
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:54.239
<v Speaker 4>over your body and it's all being projected from there.

744
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:58.039
<v Speaker 3>It really does seem like that, dude, Like the more

745
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:00.960
<v Speaker 3>we talk about these different things and start to look

746
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:03.159
<v Speaker 3>at him from all the different angles and stuff like that,

747
00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:07.480
<v Speaker 3>it's like, dude, I think we accidentally created a mystery school,

748
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:11.599
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. Like, it really does feel

749
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:13.440
<v Speaker 3>like that. And we always say we're not the teachers

750
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:16.400
<v Speaker 3>by any means. We're just students that find certain information

751
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:19.360
<v Speaker 3>very interesting, you know, and looking at it through all

752
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:22.119
<v Speaker 3>the different modalities and all through all the different lenses

753
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:25.679
<v Speaker 3>and understanding it through the original lens and then applying

754
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:28.039
<v Speaker 3>our own lens to it, and you know what I mean,

755
00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:28.800
<v Speaker 3>Like isn't it.

756
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:31.840
<v Speaker 4>So much fun though? To that to now go back

757
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:33.599
<v Speaker 4>and look at Da Vinci and look at all these

758
00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:38.239
<v Speaker 4>different things, and you're like, bro, I think I actually.

759
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:39.800
<v Speaker 3>Know what the fuck he was talking, what he was

760
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:43.840
<v Speaker 3>doing the Vitruvian man. I mean, that's that's all you

761
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:45.719
<v Speaker 3>need to say right there, just as far as like

762
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:48.840
<v Speaker 3>what he was able to understand, as far as the

763
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:54.280
<v Speaker 3>energy centers and the chakra system and energy all.

764
00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:57.119
<v Speaker 4>That he thinks. And again it was like he didn't

765
00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:00.519
<v Speaker 4>just hide it so he wouldn't be persecuted, so that

766
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:04.639
<v Speaker 4>when when you're ready, it will present itself. Because how

767
00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:06.239
<v Speaker 4>many times did we look at that and it didn't

768
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:09.199
<v Speaker 4>mean anything to us? Yep, we had to get to

769
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:11.159
<v Speaker 4>a certain level to know the secret.

770
00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:13.079
<v Speaker 5>You know, this has been happening to me a lot,

771
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:16.480
<v Speaker 5>going back and listening to older songs. Yeah, just like

772
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:18.960
<v Speaker 5>really good songs, Like I liked the song back in

773
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:20.960
<v Speaker 5>the day just because it sounded good or whatever. But

774
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:24.280
<v Speaker 5>then you listen to the words and you're like, oh shit,

775
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:27.239
<v Speaker 5>that's what they're talking about, that's what they were feeling

776
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:30.159
<v Speaker 5>in that moment. They're coming to the understanding of certain things,

777
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:31.519
<v Speaker 5>you know, like holy.

778
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:34.920
<v Speaker 3>Shit, bro, that's that's that Clint Eastwood song by the Gorillas.

779
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:36.920
<v Speaker 3>It gets me every time I listen to I'm like,

780
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:39.000
<v Speaker 3>holy shit, they were on one back in the nineties.

781
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:39.639
<v Speaker 3>That's crazy.

782
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:41.679
<v Speaker 4>Well for me, you know, I grew up listening to

783
00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:44.360
<v Speaker 4>Wu Tang. So then when I had my spiritual awakening

784
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:46.880
<v Speaker 4>and realized I was God, and then like went back

785
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:49.480
<v Speaker 4>listened to Wu Tang and like they're always calling each

786
00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:50.280
<v Speaker 4>other guy, Yo, what up?

787
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:50.480
<v Speaker 1>God?

788
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:51.679
<v Speaker 4>Was today's mathematics God?

789
00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:56.920
<v Speaker 3>I was like, whoa, oh shit, oh man, that is

790
00:39:56.960 --> 00:39:57.880
<v Speaker 3>a big one for me.

791
00:39:58.239 --> 00:39:58.800
<v Speaker 4>It is cool.

792
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:02.920
<v Speaker 3>It is cool. Like it it's almost like once you

793
00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:07.599
<v Speaker 3>become somewhat initiated, you start to see what most people don't.

794
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:09.719
<v Speaker 4>You know. Yeah, it's the same. It's the same world

795
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:10.960
<v Speaker 4>of different reality.

796
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:14.079
<v Speaker 3>Right m Yeah, it's like it's only just grown a

797
00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:14.519
<v Speaker 3>little bit.

798
00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:14.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

799
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:19.440
<v Speaker 3>So I want to get back over to the chat.

800
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:23.000
<v Speaker 3>Pete said, I'm a monkey, but I don't know the element. Pete,

801
00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:25.800
<v Speaker 3>if you would give me the the year that were

802
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:28.239
<v Speaker 3>that you were born, well, the the date and the year,

803
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:31.360
<v Speaker 3>because it's it's not the entire year. It's all dependent

804
00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:34.159
<v Speaker 3>upon the lunar calendar and stuff like that. So sometimes

805
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:37.119
<v Speaker 3>it's in January, sometimes it's in February. It gets a

806
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:40.840
<v Speaker 3>little weird. But if you anybody else that is also

807
00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:42.679
<v Speaker 3>interested in that, I got to pull it up right here.

808
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:44.920
<v Speaker 4>The monkey is a super cool animal. Though. You should

809
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:48.039
<v Speaker 4>look into the legend of the Monkey King and uh

810
00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:50.639
<v Speaker 4>like ancient Chinese mysticism and stuff.

811
00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:52.559
<v Speaker 5>It's a lot of fun, dude. You know what I

812
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:53.840
<v Speaker 5>find very strange too.

813
00:40:54.760 --> 00:41:01.400
<v Speaker 3>Every single uh zodiac within the Chinese you know, zodiacal

814
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:04.719
<v Speaker 3>wheel is all like a real animal. But then there's

815
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:07.400
<v Speaker 3>the dragon, and there's the dragon that's me. I know,

816
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:09.519
<v Speaker 3>it's I know, I'm a mythical creature, what kind of stuff.

817
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:10.360
<v Speaker 3>But do you think that?

818
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:11.400
<v Speaker 5>But do you think that.

819
00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:15.000
<v Speaker 4>I think I think they're I think they were real.

820
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:19.039
<v Speaker 4>I think they are real. I think we've shifted our

821
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:21.880
<v Speaker 4>current frequency to a reality where they're not real, but

822
00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:25.679
<v Speaker 4>that we could shift back and that you know, physically,

823
00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:29.480
<v Speaker 4>where are we You know, like we might be getting

824
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:31.360
<v Speaker 4>into some more kind of wild stuff about you know,

825
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:33.320
<v Speaker 4>globe and flat earth theory and all.

826
00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:34.079
<v Speaker 5>That kind of fun stuff.

827
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:37.880
<v Speaker 4>You know that this is where we're We're we're experiencing

828
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:44.679
<v Speaker 4>an electromagnetic frequency that we call Earth and that right,

829
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:46.920
<v Speaker 4>So it's kind of like how you resonate will be

830
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:47.639
<v Speaker 4>the one.

831
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:55.920
<v Speaker 5>That you exactly. Yeah, they're they're absolutely convinced. There's no

832
00:41:56.039 --> 00:41:57.360
<v Speaker 5>way to take it's both though.

833
00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:02.480
<v Speaker 4>That's the thing cannot be observed objectively people.

834
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:05.840
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, I mean, and I've I'm not gonna lie, dude.

835
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:07.400
<v Speaker 3>There was a period of my life as soon as

836
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:09.760
<v Speaker 3>I found flat Earth, I was like, holy shit, how

837
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:10.800
<v Speaker 3>does nobody else see this?

838
00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:11.440
<v Speaker 5>You know?

839
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:13.760
<v Speaker 3>It was like it blew my mind a little bit.

840
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:16.639
<v Speaker 3>Then I started looking into a little bit more mysticism

841
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:20.920
<v Speaker 3>and energy work and sega geometry and stuff like that,

842
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:22.880
<v Speaker 3>and You're like, now I kind of come to the

843
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:23.880
<v Speaker 3>conclusion of if.

844
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:26.679
<v Speaker 4>We are creating our reality, for me, it does seem

845
00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:31.639
<v Speaker 4>more fun if there's like outer kind of other worlds

846
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:33.440
<v Speaker 4>to be found in things I don't know. I think

847
00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:34.159
<v Speaker 4>that's kind of fun.

848
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:37.199
<v Speaker 3>No, I agree, And and so that's what I've come

849
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:39.320
<v Speaker 3>I've come to, like, dude, I just I think it's

850
00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:41.599
<v Speaker 3>a double toroid bro on some real show too.

851
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:44.679
<v Speaker 4>That's but again, it can't really be observed objectively. But

852
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:47.519
<v Speaker 4>I do feel just as the human being is essentially

853
00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:51.000
<v Speaker 4>a toroidal field like of energy, you know, and how

854
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:54.320
<v Speaker 4>we are shaped and everything that is well.

855
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:57.719
<v Speaker 3>And in one there's a so electro. Nick, along with

856
00:42:57.960 --> 00:43:01.199
<v Speaker 3>a couple other listeners, have mentioned that we should watch

857
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:04.280
<v Speaker 3>this TV show called His Dark Materials on HBO, and

858
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:07.000
<v Speaker 3>I've been like binge watching that like crazy lately, and

859
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:09.920
<v Speaker 3>it's basically getting into because we had the whole demon

860
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:13.800
<v Speaker 3>and Damon kind of conversation, like one of the etymological

861
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:17.239
<v Speaker 3>roots of the word demon and way different I know,

862
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:18.480
<v Speaker 3>how we look at I was.

863
00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:20.280
<v Speaker 4>So proud of you for putting that out there. Those

864
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:21.840
<v Speaker 4>really really good work.

865
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:24.760
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, thank you, and so but it was interesting, yeah,

866
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:28.400
<v Speaker 3>I know. Yeah, it's like, well that's a lie. That's

867
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:32.840
<v Speaker 3>not what they meant. It's like, okay, all de yeah yeah,

868
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:35.079
<v Speaker 3>and people started telling the truth two thousand years ago,

869
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:39.480
<v Speaker 3>that's what you're saying. So so so we I've been

870
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:41.880
<v Speaker 3>watching that show and it is so cool, dude, because

871
00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:44.639
<v Speaker 3>it applies the many Worlds interpretation in a sense to

872
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:50.119
<v Speaker 3>where it's like they have their their group of rulers.

873
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:52.880
<v Speaker 3>I can't I can't remember what they're called, but it's

874
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:56.039
<v Speaker 3>essentially like their version of the Vatican that is ruling

875
00:43:56.119 --> 00:44:00.159
<v Speaker 3>the world. And and if you even mention any other

876
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:03.719
<v Speaker 3>dimensions or any other worlds, that's heresy. How dare you

877
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:07.159
<v Speaker 3>right that we are God's chosen? And they don't call

878
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:10.320
<v Speaker 3>them God, they call them the authority. And dude, it's

879
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:13.280
<v Speaker 3>such a good show. But these people are jumping from

880
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:17.440
<v Speaker 3>dimension to dimension via like these these zippers in reality

881
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:19.360
<v Speaker 3>that are that are opening up and you can step

882
00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:24.119
<v Speaker 3>through and enter another world. And and I don't know

883
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:26.800
<v Speaker 3>if it's exactly like that, you know, our reality. Maybe

884
00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:30.039
<v Speaker 3>maybe it is, but if we're talking about inner dimensional

885
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:33.360
<v Speaker 3>shit going on, right that, And and it's it's all

886
00:44:33.679 --> 00:44:37.599
<v Speaker 3>entirely dependent upon your energy and your frequency that you're

887
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:41.239
<v Speaker 3>putting off that allows you to be able to kind

888
00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:42.639
<v Speaker 3>of experience different shit.

889
00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:43.280
<v Speaker 5>You know.

890
00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:45.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know how else to put that, but

891
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:49.119
<v Speaker 3>it's like it allows you to experience something different. So therefore,

892
00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:51.159
<v Speaker 3>like if you wake up on the wrong side of

893
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:53.800
<v Speaker 3>the bed, life is going to show you what it

894
00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:57.079
<v Speaker 3>looks like whenever every moment is like waking up on

895
00:44:57.119 --> 00:44:58.800
<v Speaker 3>the wrong side of the bed for the rest of

896
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:01.719
<v Speaker 3>your day, right yeah. And conversely, if you wake up

897
00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:04.679
<v Speaker 3>and meditate, well maybe life just kind of shows itself

898
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:06.079
<v Speaker 3>in that way too, for the rest of the day.

899
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:12.239
<v Speaker 3>And and so whenever we're talking about interdimensional things like

900
00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:17.039
<v Speaker 3>aliens or consciousnesses or you know, people who have passed

901
00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:19.719
<v Speaker 3>and that energy is still around because energy can't be

902
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:22.639
<v Speaker 3>created or destroyed, only transferred, you know, where are they

903
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:26.119
<v Speaker 3>existing at? It almost makes me wonder like is it

904
00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:30.480
<v Speaker 3>all right here right now? And in just how we

905
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:34.320
<v Speaker 3>tune our antenna? Is that what allows us to be

906
00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:38.559
<v Speaker 3>able to converse with those energies and stuff like that,

907
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:39.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, like is it?

908
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:41.880
<v Speaker 4>Is it that?

909
00:45:42.199 --> 00:45:45.400
<v Speaker 3>And also stack dimensions on top of each other like

910
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:46.360
<v Speaker 3>what do you think about that?

911
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:47.480
<v Speaker 4>It's infinite?

912
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Baby?

913
00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:50.880
<v Speaker 4>But I do think that you know, although our linear

914
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:53.920
<v Speaker 4>minds like to look at things like you know, this happened,

915
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:56.280
<v Speaker 4>then this happened, then this happened. So we even talked

916
00:45:56.280 --> 00:46:00.800
<v Speaker 4>about let's say like past lives, future lives, it's actually

917
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:03.840
<v Speaker 4>it's you know, our mind likes to look at it

918
00:46:03.960 --> 00:46:05.800
<v Speaker 4>like past some future, but it's it might be more

919
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:10.159
<v Speaker 4>beneficial to look at it like parallel mm hmm. And

920
00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:13.800
<v Speaker 4>that yes, everything is here and now stacked and folded

921
00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:16.719
<v Speaker 4>on top of each other. There is no moment that

922
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:19.639
<v Speaker 4>not that is not here and now wherever you are

923
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:25.480
<v Speaker 4>is there and is now and you know, if you

924
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:28.880
<v Speaker 4>were to wake up tomorrow in another dimension, you wouldn't

925
00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:31.239
<v Speaker 4>even know because you know, essentially you'd be downloaded with

926
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:33.159
<v Speaker 4>all the information you needed to to go on and

927
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:35.440
<v Speaker 4>have your experience. But I'll tell you. I mean, like

928
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:38.000
<v Speaker 4>I had a dream the other night that was like

929
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:40.760
<v Speaker 4>so vivid and it was me and I was a

930
00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:45.320
<v Speaker 4>professional baseball player and I was on the All Star

931
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:48.559
<v Speaker 4>team and it was at Dodger Stadium, and like I

932
00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:50.920
<v Speaker 4>went up to bat, it was so vivid and that

933
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:53.920
<v Speaker 4>there there was no there was no feeling in me

934
00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:55.880
<v Speaker 4>that was like, oh, I don't know what I'm doing,

935
00:46:56.199 --> 00:46:59.360
<v Speaker 4>Like you know, it's like and and then like the

936
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:01.480
<v Speaker 4>coach came up to me and was like, Yo, it

937
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:03.320
<v Speaker 4>doesn't even matter what you do in today's game because

938
00:47:03.320 --> 00:47:05.559
<v Speaker 4>you got a sick ass contract come in and like

939
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:08.159
<v Speaker 4>you know, So there was a message for me mystically

940
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:09.800
<v Speaker 4>that was like, it doesn't matter what you do banks

941
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:13.239
<v Speaker 4>you've already made the All Star team spiritually, consciously, doesn't

942
00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:14.559
<v Speaker 4>matter if you at the home run, you got like

943
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:17.440
<v Speaker 4>offers coming, You're all good. But also I just like

944
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:20.559
<v Speaker 4>I had the thought that was like yeah, that exists somewhere,

945
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:23.760
<v Speaker 4>and that like you know, my first dream as a

946
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:26.760
<v Speaker 4>child was becoming a professional baseball player, and that like

947
00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:31.000
<v Speaker 4>maybe that fucking play it's playing out somewhere and I

948
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:32.480
<v Speaker 4>just tapped into it for a message.

949
00:47:32.519 --> 00:47:34.639
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, mm hmm. Yeah, because in that moment

950
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:36.840
<v Speaker 5>when you are stepping up too bad, you know what

951
00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:38.320
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you don't have, like you said, you don't

952
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:40.960
<v Speaker 5>have those thoughts of I'm not actually a professional.

953
00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:41.079
<v Speaker 1>No.

954
00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:43.679
<v Speaker 4>In fact, I had thoughts of like that person, like, oh,

955
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:45.679
<v Speaker 4>I practiced for this, I know what I'm doing.

956
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:50.480
<v Speaker 3>Like like there was getting weird, right, Like, dude, Yeah,

957
00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:54.280
<v Speaker 3>there's just something so magical about dreams, bro that it's

958
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:57.119
<v Speaker 3>almost like the dream world is trying to help you

959
00:47:57.360 --> 00:47:59.800
<v Speaker 3>remember that you're infinite in a sense.

960
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:03.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh absolutely, man. And it's it's like a simulation,

961
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:06.559
<v Speaker 4>a safe place to do things before you come here

962
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:09.920
<v Speaker 4>and do things. Yeah, the simulation within the simulation.

963
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:17.719
<v Speaker 3>So let's see December two, nineteen ninety two, that would

964
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:22.400
<v Speaker 3>be the monkey. So let's see here real quick. So

965
00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:27.119
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety two would be the You're a water monkey.

966
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:33.719
<v Speaker 3>That's pretty much the best. I'm sure one of the best. Yeah,

967
00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:38.239
<v Speaker 3>there's no doubt about that, dude. I and that's just

968
00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:40.719
<v Speaker 3>as far as being able to look at yourself through

969
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:45.400
<v Speaker 3>all the different modalities, whether it is Chinese astrology, tropical astrology,

970
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:48.920
<v Speaker 3>sidereal astrology, and looking at it through all and I'm

971
00:48:48.960 --> 00:48:50.840
<v Speaker 3>not saying that, you know, And we did a show

972
00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:53.679
<v Speaker 3>the other day. It was on the difference between tropical

973
00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:58.039
<v Speaker 3>astrology and sidereal astrology, where true sideial astrology is based

974
00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:00.920
<v Speaker 3>upon the star alignment above your head as it is

975
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:03.119
<v Speaker 3>right now and as it was the moment that you

976
00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:06.960
<v Speaker 3>were born, not necessarily based upon you know, the how

977
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:09.719
<v Speaker 3>the sky was in the year one hundred and thirty

978
00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:13.320
<v Speaker 3>BC whenever they created the tropical astrology calendar at that time,

979
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:17.599
<v Speaker 3>which is, you know, how how the people were looking

980
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:20.480
<v Speaker 3>at it then, right and so and and they're also

981
00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:24.760
<v Speaker 3>like fixed constellations at perfect thirty degree uh sections in

982
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:28.039
<v Speaker 3>the sky, which is incorrect, right like right, But they

983
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:30.480
<v Speaker 3>say that they were doing that based upon the seasons,

984
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:33.360
<v Speaker 3>and it wasn't necessarily based upon the size of the constellation,

985
00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:35.280
<v Speaker 3>but it was based upon the seasons. If we're looking

986
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:37.960
<v Speaker 3>at the sky as if it's some kind of yearly

987
00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:42.559
<v Speaker 3>clock in that sense, then every single constellation would represent

988
00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:46.239
<v Speaker 3>thirty degrees in the sky of the entire zodiacal wheel,

989
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:48.159
<v Speaker 3>which is it's not wrong.

990
00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:51.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but they like but they created the sections kind

991
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:54.079
<v Speaker 4>of right, so it's kind of like what you like, Yeah,

992
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:57.480
<v Speaker 4>it's not wrong, and I will say that, like, you know,

993
00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:03.400
<v Speaker 4>it's astrology, like the main it's like your main planets

994
00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:07.559
<v Speaker 4>and stuff like that is a very dumb down version

995
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:10.400
<v Speaker 4>of what it actually is when you get very deep

996
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:12.719
<v Speaker 4>into it, which is why on the surface a lot

997
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:14.360
<v Speaker 4>of times you're like, I don't really resonate with that.

998
00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:16.199
<v Speaker 4>But then if you get with a real astrologer, no

999
00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:18.159
<v Speaker 4>matter what kind of astrology it is, when they start

1000
00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:20.239
<v Speaker 4>going deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper into all that,

1001
00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:22.519
<v Speaker 4>it very much lines up.

1002
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh dude, it is crazy how spot on it is.

1003
00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:29.039
<v Speaker 3>It's like, so we don't have free will. You're saying

1004
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:31.000
<v Speaker 3>that this is fate. Is that what you're trying to say?

1005
00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:33.559
<v Speaker 3>Because how did you know that I would come out

1006
00:50:33.639 --> 00:50:35.280
<v Speaker 3>to be this kind of individual?

1007
00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:37.679
<v Speaker 4>You know, Like, yeah, I think it's as simple as like,

1008
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:39.320
<v Speaker 4>you know, when you're creating a video game and you

1009
00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:41.400
<v Speaker 4>create a character and you're like, I want my character

1010
00:50:41.480 --> 00:50:44.639
<v Speaker 4>to be a wizard who does you know, flight attacks

1011
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:48.960
<v Speaker 4>and has a you know, a rabbit and can do spells,

1012
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:51.320
<v Speaker 4>and you know, it's like you're kind of like choosing

1013
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:55.280
<v Speaker 4>its attributes. But then you get to go play the game. Yeah,

1014
00:50:55.320 --> 00:50:59.599
<v Speaker 4>however you want. It does create the game. You could

1015
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:02.519
<v Speaker 4>you did create the game and the character in the game.

1016
00:51:03.559 --> 00:51:06.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm happy with the way that we chose these

1017
00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:11.559
<v Speaker 3>avatars though, because to be podcasters talking about spiritual magical

1018
00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:15.840
<v Speaker 3>stuff is pretty damn awesome, I would say. And also you,

1019
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:18.360
<v Speaker 3>I just want to say, Bro, I need to give

1020
00:51:18.360 --> 00:51:22.159
<v Speaker 3>you a huge shout out, because I find myself you know,

1021
00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:24.639
<v Speaker 3>I always try and catch myself if I'm ever having

1022
00:51:24.760 --> 00:51:26.719
<v Speaker 3>like a really bad day, and I always try and

1023
00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:29.000
<v Speaker 3>flip the script as soon as I possibly can, because

1024
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:33.239
<v Speaker 3>I know that it's only going to multiply, you know,

1025
00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:35.119
<v Speaker 3>throughout the rest of the day if you just stay

1026
00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:37.519
<v Speaker 3>within that energy. And one of the one of the

1027
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:40.679
<v Speaker 3>hacks that I have built for myself to get myself

1028
00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:43.199
<v Speaker 3>out of those kind of funks is by going and

1029
00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:47.199
<v Speaker 3>listening to your playlist on Spotify, and my favorite song

1030
00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:49.480
<v Speaker 3>to go to it is just such a bop, bro,

1031
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:53.480
<v Speaker 3>But that three three three song gets me every single time,

1032
00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:55.960
<v Speaker 3>like it is so so I just want to say

1033
00:51:56.079 --> 00:51:58.480
<v Speaker 3>your music is awesome. You don't get enough credit, and

1034
00:51:58.920 --> 00:51:59.960
<v Speaker 3>I listen to it every day.

1035
00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:02.800
<v Speaker 4>Oh man, I appreciate it. Yeah. I have three albums

1036
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:06.440
<v Speaker 4>out for your listening pleasure everybody. But I'm also I

1037
00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:08.800
<v Speaker 4>just started a new hip hop duo with my brother

1038
00:52:09.360 --> 00:52:12.400
<v Speaker 4>called Mystic Minds. We haven't released anything yet, just a

1039
00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:15.679
<v Speaker 4>couple teasers on Instagram. We did like a remix of

1040
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:18.440
<v Speaker 4>like an Ozzy Osbourne song, Mister Crawley, and like, we

1041
00:52:18.599 --> 00:52:21.440
<v Speaker 4>released that just one piece of content, got a bunch

1042
00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:23.360
<v Speaker 4>of views real quick. So we're just kind of teasing

1043
00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:26.320
<v Speaker 4>with some stuff. But we're we're about ten songs deep

1044
00:52:26.400 --> 00:52:28.440
<v Speaker 4>into it, like a twenty song album right now. So

1045
00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:31.119
<v Speaker 4>and like our whole thing that we're trying to build

1046
00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:34.079
<v Speaker 4>is like the music is going to be for free,

1047
00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:38.440
<v Speaker 4>like totally for free, and then you know how you

1048
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:41.320
<v Speaker 4>support us is we want to create like a community,

1049
00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:44.440
<v Speaker 4>a culture where maybe like a comic book goes with

1050
00:52:44.599 --> 00:52:48.199
<v Speaker 4>the album, right you buy the comic book, or you know,

1051
00:52:48.280 --> 00:52:50.480
<v Speaker 4>we want to create something maybe like in a virtual world,

1052
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:53.840
<v Speaker 4>something like I don't know, something where like people want

1053
00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:55.920
<v Speaker 4>to be involved in the virtual aspect of it, but

1054
00:52:56.000 --> 00:52:58.880
<v Speaker 4>it forces them into the physical world. You know, maybe

1055
00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:01.280
<v Speaker 4>some type of like treasure stuff, I'm not exactly sure,

1056
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:03.760
<v Speaker 4>but where we're trying to figure out something to take

1057
00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:08.599
<v Speaker 4>our power back really as underground artists because the industry,

1058
00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:14.800
<v Speaker 4>uh they it's basically the labels have made themselves obsolete

1059
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:17.079
<v Speaker 4>and we are taking the power back.

1060
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:19.320
<v Speaker 5>I love it, dude, I love it. To give you

1061
00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:22.800
<v Speaker 5>a shout out. I'm really digging the shadow boxing on

1062
00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:25.599
<v Speaker 5>Everything is Everything? Why you got a name?

1063
00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:31.440
<v Speaker 4>We were just talking about that. As soon as you

1064
00:53:31.559 --> 00:53:33.440
<v Speaker 4>name me, unigate me right.

1065
00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:37.400
<v Speaker 3>And you know what's funny too, just applying that concept

1066
00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:40.719
<v Speaker 3>I love kind of just stirring the pot a little bit.

1067
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:44.119
<v Speaker 3>Especially on my other podcast, the Cult of Conspiracy. My

1068
00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:46.440
<v Speaker 3>co host over there, he's like, he's a Christian. None

1069
00:53:46.440 --> 00:53:48.679
<v Speaker 3>wrong with that, I mean we just have different suff opinion.

1070
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:49.239
<v Speaker 5>That's fine.

1071
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:52.880
<v Speaker 3>And so we get into like what is God and

1072
00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:56.559
<v Speaker 3>what isn't God and stuff like that, Well, well God's everything.

1073
00:53:56.800 --> 00:53:58.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh that's interesting, So God, So that means

1074
00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:01.599
<v Speaker 3>I'm gone, and well no, come on, like come on,

1075
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:05.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, and and I'm like, well, I think by

1076
00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:09.639
<v Speaker 3>you saying what God isn't, you're only putting limitations on

1077
00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:13.440
<v Speaker 3>what God is right, So it's almost like the dow

1078
00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:15.920
<v Speaker 3>that can be named is not the right dow right

1079
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:19.800
<v Speaker 3>within Daoism. And so by you saying that, you know,

1080
00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:21.639
<v Speaker 3>you're not God and I'm not God, and your kids

1081
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:24.000
<v Speaker 3>aren't God, and in your computer or whatever isn't God,

1082
00:54:24.079 --> 00:54:26.280
<v Speaker 3>and the sky isn't God, it's like, all right, we'll

1083
00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:28.199
<v Speaker 3>keep on applying more limitations to him.

1084
00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:30.320
<v Speaker 4>Then at that point, yeah, well, like you know the

1085
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:36.159
<v Speaker 4>line in the Bible, I am that I am right? Uh,

1086
00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:41.679
<v Speaker 4>I take that as meaning I am that that that

1087
00:54:41.960 --> 00:54:44.800
<v Speaker 4>I am that. Yeah, that's how I take it, not

1088
00:54:45.159 --> 00:54:47.639
<v Speaker 4>just that I am No, I'm that I'm that, I'm

1089
00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:48.079
<v Speaker 4>that I am.

1090
00:54:48.280 --> 00:54:51.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's the y age vh sure, the Yoda

1091
00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:54.320
<v Speaker 3>vave I am that I am. At that point, it's like, yes,

1092
00:54:55.599 --> 00:54:59.119
<v Speaker 3>it's just a it's an entire perspective change, you know.

1093
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:01.519
<v Speaker 3>And man, it makes this place feel a lot more

1094
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:04.039
<v Speaker 3>like home whenever you just like look around and oh,

1095
00:55:04.119 --> 00:55:06.480
<v Speaker 3>you're not separate from me. That thing's not separate from me,

1096
00:55:06.599 --> 00:55:08.440
<v Speaker 3>This place isn't separate from me. This isn't even my

1097
00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:09.719
<v Speaker 3>first time being here kind of thing.

1098
00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:10.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1099
00:55:10.360 --> 00:55:12.159
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And you know the way I like to explain

1100
00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:14.320
<v Speaker 4>it to people, and it's just that, you know, the

1101
00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:21.400
<v Speaker 4>physical world is everything here emerges from the non physical,

1102
00:55:21.519 --> 00:55:26.239
<v Speaker 4>from the womb, from a field of infinite potential. So

1103
00:55:27.239 --> 00:55:30.320
<v Speaker 4>we all do come from the same source. There is

1104
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:34.719
<v Speaker 4>no separation. It can seem random and chaotic, but it's

1105
00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:39.920
<v Speaker 4>only because it's unpredictable. But that's because it's infinite. It's

1106
00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:41.559
<v Speaker 4>the ultimate act of love.

1107
00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:48.679
<v Speaker 3>But even within that, the infinite possibilities, you see like

1108
00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:51.519
<v Speaker 3>innumerable amount of synchronicities.

1109
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:55.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it has to be. It's like it's like, you know,

1110
00:55:56.199 --> 00:56:00.360
<v Speaker 4>my eyes and my hands and my nose are like,

1111
00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:04.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, different parts of me, but really they're just

1112
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:09.639
<v Speaker 4>different ways of experiencing the same one thing, right.

1113
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:13.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just different aspects. That's funny too, because I

1114
00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:16.599
<v Speaker 3>was looking down at like my belly earlier, just for

1115
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:18.840
<v Speaker 3>some reason, and I just had this strange thought of like,

1116
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:20.920
<v Speaker 3>my belly is also me.

1117
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:21.440
<v Speaker 5>You know.

1118
00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:24.239
<v Speaker 3>What I'm saying is that at that point, you know,

1119
00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:27.320
<v Speaker 3>just getting real weird, and I'm like, this reminds.

1120
00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:28.800
<v Speaker 4>Me of something. I forgot what it was from. My

1121
00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:30.679
<v Speaker 4>friend was just telling me about this is from some

1122
00:56:30.800 --> 00:56:34.440
<v Speaker 4>old movie or something, but it's something by the guy

1123
00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:37.960
<v Speaker 4>was like, oh, like they I cut my body off

1124
00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:40.119
<v Speaker 4>or it was a joke about cutting his body off,

1125
00:56:40.159 --> 00:56:41.840
<v Speaker 4>but really it was like he cut his penis off

1126
00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:44.920
<v Speaker 4>or something. And it just made me think about like, oh, yeah,

1127
00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:47.239
<v Speaker 4>like where do I begin? And like my where does

1128
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:50.760
<v Speaker 4>my penis end? And I begin? Like where is the

1129
00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:53.440
<v Speaker 4>and that is for everything?

1130
00:56:54.639 --> 00:56:55.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, pretty much.

1131
00:56:56.000 --> 00:56:58.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry that's too graphic if y'all, but no, no,

1132
00:56:59.239 --> 00:56:59.719
<v Speaker 4>my penis.

1133
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:03.280
<v Speaker 3>But no, it's interesting to even bring that up because

1134
00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:06.159
<v Speaker 3>I saw that there was a comment on we We

1135
00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:09.679
<v Speaker 3>reposted an old show a couple of weeks ago with

1136
00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:11.719
<v Speaker 3>a conversation we had with this guy who was an

1137
00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:12.800
<v Speaker 3>understudied a Manly P.

1138
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:13.159
<v Speaker 5>Hall.

1139
00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:16.800
<v Speaker 3>His name is Ronnie Pontiac. Fascinating individual. If you ever

1140
00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:18.199
<v Speaker 3>get the chance to talk to him, I could hook

1141
00:57:18.239 --> 00:57:19.800
<v Speaker 3>you up have him come on your show. He is

1142
00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:24.280
<v Speaker 3>dude literally studied under Manley Hall. Like crazy right and

1143
00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:28.199
<v Speaker 3>and really good conversation. But we reposted that and we

1144
00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:32.480
<v Speaker 3>put it up on YouTube and everything, and somebody was like, oh,

1145
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:35.480
<v Speaker 3>he was just into basically fallis magic. Just look at him.

1146
00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:39.880
<v Speaker 3>It's Manly p Hall Manly Fallis And I was like,

1147
00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:42.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's an interesting conclusion. That you just drew

1148
00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:46.239
<v Speaker 3>maybe he was onto something. But and not to say

1149
00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:49.480
<v Speaker 3>that there isn't magic that you can kind of manifest

1150
00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:52.079
<v Speaker 3>by masturbation and all that, because that's a real thing too,

1151
00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:56.079
<v Speaker 3>you know. But it's it's it's always fascinating to me

1152
00:57:56.159 --> 00:57:59.639
<v Speaker 3>whenever people look at like esoteric teachers and esoteric masters

1153
00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:02.840
<v Speaker 3>and just assume always that they're working with the dark side.

1154
00:58:03.239 --> 00:58:05.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yeah, always, every time.

1155
00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:05.679
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

1156
00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:07.519
<v Speaker 4>But my whole thing is this is that if you

1157
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:10.360
<v Speaker 4>haven't worked with the darkness, then you ain't working with

1158
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:10.840
<v Speaker 4>the light.

1159
00:58:11.320 --> 00:58:13.800
<v Speaker 5>Right, yep, what the fuck are you doing? If you

1160
00:58:14.199 --> 00:58:15.639
<v Speaker 5>know the shadows right exactly?

1161
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:18.480
<v Speaker 4>You ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil?

1162
00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:22.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh dude, Jesus had conversations with Satan.

1163
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:26.320
<v Speaker 4>Bro It's like, I am the darkness.

1164
00:58:27.480 --> 00:58:30.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh and that's even what God says. There was oh man,

1165
00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:32.079
<v Speaker 3>you know what, let me pull up that quote too,

1166
00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:37.800
<v Speaker 3>because there was a quote in the Bible that really

1167
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:40.599
<v Speaker 3>got me a little bit just trying to define like

1168
00:58:40.800 --> 00:58:44.159
<v Speaker 3>what God is or whatever, right, and just there was

1169
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:44.800
<v Speaker 3>this quote.

1170
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:46.400
<v Speaker 5>Let me see if I can find it.

1171
00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:50.559
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah. It was in Isaiah chapter forty five, verse seven,

1172
00:58:50.920 --> 00:58:53.880
<v Speaker 3>and it was God speaking and it said, I formed

1173
00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:57.880
<v Speaker 3>the light and create darkness. I make peace and create evil.

1174
00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:01.920
<v Speaker 3>I the Lord do all these things. It's like boom

1175
00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:05.960
<v Speaker 3>right there, like like to get the idea of you know,

1176
00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:08.119
<v Speaker 3>the good guy and the bad guy they're the same

1177
00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:09.480
<v Speaker 3>fucking character.

1178
00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:11.559
<v Speaker 4>Well, and so like, look, this is how I explain

1179
00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:13.480
<v Speaker 4>it to people. It's like and it's it can be

1180
00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:16.280
<v Speaker 4>hard for our minds to grasp this. But let's say

1181
00:59:16.519 --> 00:59:20.920
<v Speaker 4>source is not light or dark. It's actually formless. It

1182
00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:25.559
<v Speaker 4>has no edges, no no shape, no taste, no sound.

1183
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:30.599
<v Speaker 4>It's it's pure everything and nothing, and it's and it's

1184
00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:33.760
<v Speaker 4>so it's got no form to it. So it created

1185
00:59:33.880 --> 00:59:39.840
<v Speaker 4>the illusion of duality. Light and dark opposites because only

1186
00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:44.079
<v Speaker 4>through duality can we make form, can we experience something.

1187
00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:46.920
<v Speaker 4>And then that act of light and dark, when it

1188
00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:50.840
<v Speaker 4>manifests in infinite ways, infinite free will is the highest

1189
00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:53.239
<v Speaker 4>act of love. Yes, you're gonna get some suffering, you're

1190
00:59:53.239 --> 00:59:55.039
<v Speaker 4>gonna get some weird stuff, you're gonna get some bad people,

1191
00:59:55.119 --> 00:59:58.760
<v Speaker 4>some bad things, But it's really just a distortion of

1192
00:59:58.880 --> 00:59:59.320
<v Speaker 4>the truth.

1193
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:02.400
<v Speaker 5>Dude, And that Superman got Kryptonite, you know.

1194
01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:04.880
<v Speaker 3>Had to, had to, or else nobody was gonna watch

1195
01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:05.400
<v Speaker 3>him anymore.

1196
01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:08.320
<v Speaker 5>They had to inventvent that just so that people would

1197
01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:10.639
<v Speaker 5>be interested in him maybe losing.

1198
01:00:11.199 --> 01:00:14.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they they had to get like there had to

1199
01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:17.840
<v Speaker 3>be a reason to make him more, you know, because

1200
01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:20.159
<v Speaker 3>if you're watching a show and he just wins every time,

1201
01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:23.039
<v Speaker 3>like that's not going to be very entertaining, you know.

1202
01:00:23.159 --> 01:00:26.039
<v Speaker 4>Well, and again, it's like even if there if there's

1203
01:00:26.119 --> 01:00:29.800
<v Speaker 4>any for anything to take form, there must be resistance,

1204
01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:35.400
<v Speaker 4>Like literally anything for anything to take form, there must

1205
01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:38.079
<v Speaker 4>be resistance. And that you could look at it like

1206
01:00:38.199 --> 01:00:40.119
<v Speaker 4>Yin and Yang and evil and good and that kind

1207
01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:43.119
<v Speaker 4>of stuff. It's just it's just fucking the thing that

1208
01:00:43.239 --> 01:00:46.199
<v Speaker 4>keeps us pushing and pulling it. Do it?

1209
01:00:46.360 --> 01:00:46.400
<v Speaker 5>Do?

1210
01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:48.519
<v Speaker 3>I want to get back over the chat here for

1211
01:00:48.599 --> 01:00:51.920
<v Speaker 3>a second? Supermarket, he said, I've recently been thinking about

1212
01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:54.519
<v Speaker 3>the simulation and how it seems like a soul contract

1213
01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:57.760
<v Speaker 3>is nothing more than attributes that you assigned to your

1214
01:00:57.840 --> 01:01:01.079
<v Speaker 3>character at the beginning of an RPG. Yes, have you

1215
01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:03.559
<v Speaker 3>ever played Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven.

1216
01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:05.159
<v Speaker 5>I haven't played that.

1217
01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:07.199
<v Speaker 4>I haven't played that, but but I think that that's

1218
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:10.559
<v Speaker 4>a very interesting theory and if that sparks something in

1219
01:01:10.679 --> 01:01:11.800
<v Speaker 4>you and you should follow it.

1220
01:01:13.119 --> 01:01:16.159
<v Speaker 5>Dude, those attributes in which you you've chosen, but then

1221
01:01:16.239 --> 01:01:18.800
<v Speaker 5>you also make that choice to maintain.

1222
01:01:18.960 --> 01:01:22.000
<v Speaker 4>Exactly you can kind of decide later on, maybe I

1223
01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:23.679
<v Speaker 4>don't want to have as many magical powers, may don't

1224
01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:27.159
<v Speaker 4>want to work on a strength a little bit more, right, That's.

1225
01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:31.440
<v Speaker 3>It, Bridd said. It's crazy how that works. That thank you,

1226
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:34.639
<v Speaker 3>that that most people start out of the conspiracy realm

1227
01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:37.039
<v Speaker 3>and then it doesn't take long to get into the

1228
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:39.880
<v Speaker 3>more spiritual stuff. You just start seeing the lies everywhere.

1229
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:43.000
<v Speaker 3>And dude, I always say this that like, if it

1230
01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:46.440
<v Speaker 3>wasn't for you know, just me on my own personal journey,

1231
01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:49.719
<v Speaker 3>if it wasn't for the creation of the cult of conspiracy,

1232
01:01:49.760 --> 01:01:51.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I would have ever gotten here.

1233
01:01:51.559 --> 01:01:53.719
<v Speaker 3>But I had to see how many cracks in the

1234
01:01:53.800 --> 01:01:57.360
<v Speaker 3>illusion there actually were in order to understand that there

1235
01:01:57.519 --> 01:02:02.480
<v Speaker 3>is something that is underlying that is definitive, and in

1236
01:02:02.679 --> 01:02:05.199
<v Speaker 3>order to understand like our connection to it in the

1237
01:02:05.280 --> 01:02:08.159
<v Speaker 3>sense right, So, like all right, government lies to us.

1238
01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:11.800
<v Speaker 3>I've I've like, if I ever find a time where

1239
01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:13.920
<v Speaker 3>the government isn't lying to us, I'll be a lot

1240
01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:16.159
<v Speaker 3>more shocked, you know what I'm saying. Like I've got

1241
01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:17.920
<v Speaker 3>I've just gotten to that point in my life where

1242
01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:20.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, they said that it was gonna happen,

1243
01:02:20.760 --> 01:02:21.239
<v Speaker 3>and then it did.

1244
01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:21.559
<v Speaker 5>Huh.

1245
01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:26.039
<v Speaker 3>That's color me shocked in that sense. Right, And and

1246
01:02:26.519 --> 01:02:29.320
<v Speaker 3>not even just with government stuff, but just conspiracy all

1247
01:02:29.360 --> 01:02:31.800
<v Speaker 3>the way around, whatever the case may be. Maybe it's

1248
01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:36.719
<v Speaker 3>a religious lies or political lies, or you know, the

1249
01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:40.400
<v Speaker 3>big pharmaceutical lies or whatever. Right, Like, it's all across

1250
01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:43.239
<v Speaker 3>the board that you find that not all of these

1251
01:02:43.519 --> 01:02:47.360
<v Speaker 3>things and people and organizations and stuff have your best interests.

1252
01:02:47.840 --> 01:02:51.280
<v Speaker 3>And every single time you remind yourself of that, you're

1253
01:02:51.320 --> 01:02:54.440
<v Speaker 3>almost pushing yourself down your own path because if that's

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01:02:54.519 --> 01:02:57.159
<v Speaker 3>not true, and if that's not real, now you're finding

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01:02:57.239 --> 01:03:00.000
<v Speaker 3>yourself creating your own path in your own sense, trying

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01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:04.000
<v Speaker 3>to be your own light because you realize that all

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01:03:04.119 --> 01:03:07.159
<v Speaker 3>these other big corporate lights are only guiding you right

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01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:08.480
<v Speaker 3>into their pocketbook.

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01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:09.000
<v Speaker 5>Right.

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01:03:09.079 --> 01:03:12.159
<v Speaker 4>Well, perhaps I think about like this, Maybe it's as

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01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:17.239
<v Speaker 4>lighthearted as it's. The conspiracies are a reflection of the

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01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:23.000
<v Speaker 4>conspiracy of existence of yeah, the mystery, the conspiracy of

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01:03:23.280 --> 01:03:27.280
<v Speaker 4>you know, believing that you're not divine, only to figure

1264
01:03:27.280 --> 01:03:31.960
<v Speaker 4>out that you are. Perhaps that that you know grand

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01:03:33.159 --> 01:03:37.840
<v Speaker 4>conspiracy that makes everything go around simply reflects in our

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01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:39.000
<v Speaker 4>in our existence.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh dude, it's magical. It's magical in that way. And

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01:03:43.159 --> 01:03:46.199
<v Speaker 3>and also like it'll get you to look at like

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01:03:46.920 --> 01:03:50.840
<v Speaker 3>secret societies and mystery calls and all that stuff and

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01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:54.280
<v Speaker 3>a completely different and a completely different lens too, because

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01:03:54.440 --> 01:03:57.039
<v Speaker 3>even even like the Freemasons, they all they're like, see

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01:03:57.159 --> 01:04:00.440
<v Speaker 3>I saw the checkerboard floors. It's it's they're playing with magic.

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01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:02.880
<v Speaker 3>And it's like, dude, they actually know some shit and

1274
01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:05.880
<v Speaker 3>you're looking at it like it's just evil. It's like, yeah,

1275
01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:07.440
<v Speaker 3>there's so much more to it than that.

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01:04:07.880 --> 01:04:09.800
<v Speaker 4>And at the same time, like they were just some homies.

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01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:12.079
<v Speaker 4>They wanted to get together and blaze and have a

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01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:14.400
<v Speaker 4>drink and talk about some crazy conspiracy shit like I

1279
01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:15.239
<v Speaker 4>do with my homies.

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01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:16.519
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, dude.

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01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:18.079
<v Speaker 4>The next thing you know, you got thirty people in

1282
01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:19.599
<v Speaker 4>a room with you and you're like, oh shit, I

1283
01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:20.880
<v Speaker 4>guess we got to make some ropes.

1284
01:04:21.280 --> 01:04:23.320
<v Speaker 5>We got a club. Now you gotta dress up.

1285
01:04:23.800 --> 01:04:26.199
<v Speaker 3>Before you know it, you're doing simulated death rituals. But

1286
01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:29.519
<v Speaker 3>that escalated quickly.

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01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:33.440
<v Speaker 4>Everybody thinks. Everybody thinks they're illuminated, you know, like, oh,

1288
01:04:33.559 --> 01:04:34.679
<v Speaker 4>we figured out something.

1289
01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:37.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they're just laying figured it out for yourself anyway,

1290
01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:40.079
<v Speaker 5>you know, dude, just laying in a coffin.

1291
01:04:40.760 --> 01:04:43.760
<v Speaker 3>It's just like I've died and the new me is

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01:04:44.119 --> 01:04:45.400
<v Speaker 3>going to be the one that walks up out of

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01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:45.960
<v Speaker 3>this casket.

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01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:49.559
<v Speaker 5>And if you really feel that once you do it, you.

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01:04:49.559 --> 01:04:52.360
<v Speaker 3>Know, dude, is that not what baptism is? I always

1296
01:04:52.400 --> 01:04:54.679
<v Speaker 3>try and tell people this, right, Is that not the

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01:04:54.800 --> 01:04:58.079
<v Speaker 3>idea behind baptism that you die only to be reborn

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01:04:58.159 --> 01:05:01.039
<v Speaker 3>into this life like h sinless and pure.

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01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:05.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think so, and also like a cleansing ritual.

1300
01:05:05.440 --> 01:05:08.360
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, obviously it's like amniotic fluid. It's you know,

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01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:12.719
<v Speaker 4>emerging from the non material all right.

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01:05:14.880 --> 01:05:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, it just reminds me of like to like,

1303
01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:20.239
<v Speaker 3>even within the Bible, it talks about the womb, but

1304
01:05:20.360 --> 01:05:21.480
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't call it the womb.

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01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:23.599
<v Speaker 5>It says it's the called the matrix.

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01:05:24.280 --> 01:05:27.159
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and that is right. I mean, a matrix is

1307
01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:30.559
<v Speaker 4>a system. And you know, Alan Watts talks about this

1308
01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:33.840
<v Speaker 4>that a system cannot be a system unless it let's

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01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:37.559
<v Speaker 4>go of itself, right, So it's like yeah, and that

1310
01:05:37.840 --> 01:05:40.639
<v Speaker 4>so any for anything to be something, it must be

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01:05:40.679 --> 01:05:42.679
<v Speaker 4>in sight of something and that's the womb.

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01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:45.559
<v Speaker 5>It is the womb, it's the matrix.

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01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:50.119
<v Speaker 3>There was somebody that was talking about, like, imagine there

1314
01:05:50.199 --> 01:05:53.400
<v Speaker 3>were twins in this one, you know, in this one womb,

1315
01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:56.800
<v Speaker 3>and the one comes up with this crazy idea of

1316
01:05:57.000 --> 01:05:59.880
<v Speaker 3>like can you just imagine what the outside world is?

1317
01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:02.800
<v Speaker 3>And I can, you know, I can imagine there's planes

1318
01:06:02.880 --> 01:06:05.599
<v Speaker 3>and trains and there's all these different kind of crazy things,

1319
01:06:05.639 --> 01:06:07.960
<v Speaker 3>and the other, the other little twin inside the womb,

1320
01:06:08.039 --> 01:06:10.079
<v Speaker 3>is just like, come on, man, you gotta wake up

1321
01:06:10.119 --> 01:06:12.639
<v Speaker 3>to reality. This is all that there is. Look around,

1322
01:06:12.840 --> 01:06:15.239
<v Speaker 3>like we're just swimming around that there is nothing more

1323
01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:17.480
<v Speaker 3>outside of this. And the other guy's like, I'm telling you,

1324
01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:19.280
<v Speaker 3>I know that there has to be I had.

1325
01:06:19.159 --> 01:06:22.199
<v Speaker 4>This beyond the womb.

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01:06:22.320 --> 01:06:25.320
<v Speaker 3>There has to be yeah. Yeah, And I was like, man,

1327
01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:27.280
<v Speaker 3>that is a perfect allegory for this life.

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01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:30.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, totally absolutely, yeah man, And like you know, for

1329
01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:33.760
<v Speaker 4>for a lot of the feminines out there, and like

1330
01:06:33.840 --> 01:06:37.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, we we manifest as physical genders, but it's

1331
01:06:37.960 --> 01:06:43.519
<v Speaker 4>just energy, right, It's the feminine energy, masculine energy receiving, giving, right,

1332
01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:46.679
<v Speaker 4>and just that like the feminine energy, you know, the

1333
01:06:46.760 --> 01:06:49.119
<v Speaker 4>way the reason why you go through the menstrual cycles,

1334
01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:51.079
<v Speaker 4>the pain of childbirth, all this kind of stuff is

1335
01:06:51.159 --> 01:06:56.360
<v Speaker 4>because you are the power that can transmute negative energy.

1336
01:06:57.519 --> 01:07:00.760
<v Speaker 4>Men do not have that same power. We can still

1337
01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:03.400
<v Speaker 4>do it, but you know, we don't have that those

1338
01:07:03.400 --> 01:07:05.920
<v Speaker 4>same attributes that we created when we came here, right,

1339
01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:09.239
<v Speaker 4>And so I just want all the women and the

1340
01:07:09.320 --> 01:07:11.760
<v Speaker 4>feminine out there to know and even the masculine that, like,

1341
01:07:11.880 --> 01:07:14.159
<v Speaker 4>you know, we this is what we're here to do.

1342
01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:19.800
<v Speaker 4>We're here to transmute this shit, you know, through art,

1343
01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:24.000
<v Speaker 4>through poetry, through you know, creating things. We take the

1344
01:07:24.119 --> 01:07:27.039
<v Speaker 4>negative and we unravel it and make it positive for

1345
01:07:27.119 --> 01:07:27.639
<v Speaker 4>the collective.

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01:07:28.760 --> 01:07:31.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, look, you can make a pile of shit

1347
01:07:31.400 --> 01:07:33.360
<v Speaker 3>from Plato, or you can also build a castle with it,

1348
01:07:33.639 --> 01:07:39.880
<v Speaker 3>you know. So, uh, Supermarket said everything everywhere all at once. Yeah,

1349
01:07:41.679 --> 01:07:43.599
<v Speaker 3>also said we're the kid on the edge of the

1350
01:07:43.679 --> 01:07:45.000
<v Speaker 3>bed in his room playing.

1351
01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:45.440
<v Speaker 5>The video game.

1352
01:07:46.119 --> 01:07:50.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I love that. Nice.

1353
01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:55.400
<v Speaker 3>Mama Slaney said, Uh, I think I'm a rooster. July sixth,

1354
01:07:55.519 --> 01:07:59.760
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety three. So yeah, let's look at that real quick.

1355
01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:02.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm just always fascinated by all these different lenses that

1356
01:08:02.599 --> 01:08:05.199
<v Speaker 3>you can that you know, you can find yourself, and

1357
01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:08.039
<v Speaker 3>they all kind of speak to the to the same

1358
01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:14.320
<v Speaker 3>So rooster, was it? Let's see rooster, you said, nineteen

1359
01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:15.079
<v Speaker 3>ninety six.

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01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:18.279
<v Speaker 5>No, it's not a rooster, was it?

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01:08:18.359 --> 01:08:18.760
<v Speaker 3>Ninety three?

1362
01:08:18.840 --> 01:08:19.720
<v Speaker 5>Is that what it's? Ninety three?

1363
01:08:19.840 --> 01:08:24.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh, ninety three. I'm tripping. I think I'm getting

1364
01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:26.840
<v Speaker 3>the numbers mixed up there. Nineteen ninety three. You would

1365
01:08:26.880 --> 01:08:28.000
<v Speaker 3>be a water rooster.

1366
01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:30.960
<v Speaker 4>All right, A lot of water up in here, a

1367
01:08:31.039 --> 01:08:32.079
<v Speaker 4>lot of water, like.

1368
01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:37.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, dude, Pete said, December second, nineteen ninety two.

1369
01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:38.359
<v Speaker 5>Did I already read that one?

1370
01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:39.560
<v Speaker 3>That was a water well?

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01:08:39.640 --> 01:08:39.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

1372
01:08:39.840 --> 01:08:41.680
<v Speaker 4>And and like you know what, you guys will start

1373
01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:44.000
<v Speaker 4>noticing if you want to do more research into the

1374
01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:49.119
<v Speaker 4>let's say, like primordial understandings of things, then all of

1375
01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:51.319
<v Speaker 4>the zodiac will makes sense to you, all of the

1376
01:08:51.479 --> 01:08:54.359
<v Speaker 4>animal stuff, all of the because you know, I'm talking

1377
01:08:54.359 --> 01:08:59.600
<v Speaker 4>about learning the basics of what numbers mean, what colors mean,

1378
01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:04.479
<v Speaker 4>what shapes mean, you know, a masculine of feminine energy

1379
01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:07.640
<v Speaker 4>duality that's like very simple kind of things like that.

1380
01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:10.560
<v Speaker 4>Then you're gonna see that, like these animals of the

1381
01:09:10.640 --> 01:09:15.520
<v Speaker 4>zodiac are literally manifesting from these divine ideas of like

1382
01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:19.159
<v Speaker 4>numbers and shapes and colors, and they literally represent.

1383
01:09:18.840 --> 01:09:22.359
<v Speaker 3>That, Oh dude, And just as far as like shapes go,

1384
01:09:22.520 --> 01:09:25.199
<v Speaker 3>this is something that I've been listening to other shows

1385
01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:26.880
<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that. One of my favorite podcasts of

1386
01:09:26.920 --> 01:09:28.920
<v Speaker 3>all times called Crow Triple seven. He gets into a

1387
01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:31.439
<v Speaker 3>lot of like sacred geometry and stuff like that too sometimes,

1388
01:09:32.439 --> 01:09:36.680
<v Speaker 3>and was just talking about like the very first manifestation

1389
01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:40.039
<v Speaker 3>of anything was just a single point, right like, and

1390
01:09:40.159 --> 01:09:42.760
<v Speaker 3>then and then from the point came the line, and

1391
01:09:42.880 --> 01:09:45.119
<v Speaker 3>then from the next line or from that line came

1392
01:09:45.199 --> 01:09:47.880
<v Speaker 3>another line. And the only time that there was ever

1393
01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:51.039
<v Speaker 3>able to form anything into any kind of shape, that

1394
01:09:51.439 --> 01:09:53.800
<v Speaker 3>the triangle had to have been the first shape because

1395
01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:56.880
<v Speaker 3>it's the first thing that manifests as a whole thing

1396
01:09:57.039 --> 01:09:59.880
<v Speaker 3>from like three collective individual.

1397
01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:05.159
<v Speaker 4>Units triangles three and three in numerology represents creativity. So

1398
01:10:05.239 --> 01:10:07.760
<v Speaker 4>you're telling me that the first shape that could create

1399
01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:11.840
<v Speaker 4>that could be created. You see how the connections already there.

1400
01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:15.319
<v Speaker 4>So oh, start learning these basic things and everything starts

1401
01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:16.279
<v Speaker 4>making a lot more sense.

1402
01:10:16.479 --> 01:10:18.520
<v Speaker 3>It is the Father, is the son and the holy ghost,

1403
01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:20.399
<v Speaker 3>or it's the mind body actually.

1404
01:10:20.079 --> 01:10:21.640
<v Speaker 4>So when a man and a woman get together, they

1405
01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:23.640
<v Speaker 4>create a child, right.

1406
01:10:24.479 --> 01:10:27.279
<v Speaker 3>Well, and also if you look at just like certain

1407
01:10:27.399 --> 01:10:32.359
<v Speaker 3>initiatory rights, especially even within magic and stuff like that.

1408
01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:35.039
<v Speaker 3>Like we read this book, I all, we always love

1409
01:10:35.079 --> 01:10:37.079
<v Speaker 3>to reference it, but it's called The Magic in by

1410
01:10:37.479 --> 01:10:41.439
<v Speaker 3>Philip Cooper. Such a fucking awesome book. But basically, you're

1411
01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:44.520
<v Speaker 3>supposed to go and walk through these two pillars inside

1412
01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:47.319
<v Speaker 3>your meditative mind in a sense. And the idea about

1413
01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:50.840
<v Speaker 3>you walking through two pillars, I believe would be that

1414
01:10:51.159 --> 01:10:55.079
<v Speaker 3>you're you represent that third pillar, right, and so you

1415
01:10:55.279 --> 01:10:59.000
<v Speaker 3>represent you're you're taking two parts and you're creating something

1416
01:10:59.079 --> 01:11:00.479
<v Speaker 3>as a whole unit that point.

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01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:04.760
<v Speaker 4>Yes, And you know eleven is often represented as a

1418
01:11:04.800 --> 01:11:11.239
<v Speaker 4>portal and numerology, which is like to pillars, right, and

1419
01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:12.760
<v Speaker 4>that's two right before three.

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01:11:13.520 --> 01:11:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, and then you start getting conspiratorial you look

1421
01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:17.760
<v Speaker 3>at the twin towers and that whole thing.

1422
01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:20.319
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, yeah, we're not going to get too weird tonight.

1423
01:11:20.359 --> 01:11:24.159
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, dude, it's just crazy whenever you start really

1424
01:11:24.319 --> 01:11:26.880
<v Speaker 3>looking at the symbolism of the world and then trying

1425
01:11:26.920 --> 01:11:32.000
<v Speaker 3>to to almost like how can I do something in

1426
01:11:32.039 --> 01:11:33.399
<v Speaker 3>my own life with this kind of stuff.

1427
01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:36.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's creating your own language with the universe, because

1428
01:11:36.119 --> 01:11:37.439
<v Speaker 4>you should have your own language with.

1429
01:11:37.520 --> 01:11:39.479
<v Speaker 5>It, dude.

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01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:41.640
<v Speaker 3>That's what the synchronicity is. Like, every time you see

1431
01:11:41.680 --> 01:11:44.560
<v Speaker 3>a synchronicity, it's like your own little connection to the

1432
01:11:44.680 --> 01:11:46.079
<v Speaker 3>matrix itself in that moment.

1433
01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:49.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, don't, don't let it just happen, start telling it. Okay,

1434
01:11:49.640 --> 01:11:51.680
<v Speaker 4>next time when I see this, numbers only show it

1435
01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:55.359
<v Speaker 4>for this reason, like and then right, and then now

1436
01:11:55.399 --> 01:11:58.800
<v Speaker 4>we're starting to kind of having a reciprocal conversation.

1437
01:11:59.720 --> 01:12:02.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, well that's just like the other night man,

1438
01:12:03.039 --> 01:12:06.560
<v Speaker 5>we had a meditation and I forget the specific meditation,

1439
01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:08.840
<v Speaker 5>but and I didn't even mention this part of it.

1440
01:12:08.960 --> 01:12:11.680
<v Speaker 5>But I saw like a pegasus, right, and I wasn't

1441
01:12:11.760 --> 01:12:14.720
<v Speaker 5>thinking about that. This was something that just came out

1442
01:12:14.720 --> 01:12:16.640
<v Speaker 5>of nowhere. But I didn't mention it after the show

1443
01:12:16.680 --> 01:12:18.079
<v Speaker 5>because I was like, eh, that was kind of weird,

1444
01:12:18.119 --> 01:12:19.720
<v Speaker 5>and like, I don't know, because there was something else

1445
01:12:19.760 --> 01:12:22.199
<v Speaker 5>that happened as well. The very next day, my wife

1446
01:12:22.239 --> 01:12:23.800
<v Speaker 5>and I decided to watch a movie and it was

1447
01:12:23.920 --> 01:12:26.560
<v Speaker 5>a Clash of the Titans, you know, because I was like,

1448
01:12:26.760 --> 01:12:28.720
<v Speaker 5>why haven't I seen this yet? It looks cool. It's

1449
01:12:28.720 --> 01:12:32.039
<v Speaker 5>about the gods and the Greek gods, and when you

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01:12:32.079 --> 01:12:35.520
<v Speaker 5>know what, there's like a bunch of pegasus. I don't

1451
01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:37.319
<v Speaker 5>know how you paralize that, but yeah, and I was like,

1452
01:12:37.720 --> 01:12:39.359
<v Speaker 5>there it is, you know what I mean, It's like

1453
01:12:39.479 --> 01:12:41.840
<v Speaker 5>in my reality, it was like did I make that

1454
01:12:42.039 --> 01:12:44.600
<v Speaker 5>happen or did you know it was? I seen him.

1455
01:12:44.800 --> 01:12:45.840
<v Speaker 5>It's an echo.

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01:12:46.159 --> 01:12:49.039
<v Speaker 4>It's an echo of the future. And at the same time,

1457
01:12:49.279 --> 01:12:53.520
<v Speaker 4>like you know, you projected, you wrote, directed, and starred

1458
01:12:53.560 --> 01:12:57.720
<v Speaker 4>in that movie as you watched it essentially right, and

1459
01:12:57.920 --> 01:13:00.640
<v Speaker 4>that it presented itself to you exactly when it needed

1460
01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:02.840
<v Speaker 4>to to give you some type of a message. And

1461
01:13:02.960 --> 01:13:07.279
<v Speaker 4>you know what a pegasust represents. Horses represent freedom, and

1462
01:13:07.479 --> 01:13:10.239
<v Speaker 4>you know they have wings, so there's something ethereal and

1463
01:13:10.359 --> 01:13:15.119
<v Speaker 4>godly like about it. It's your steed, it's your it's loyalty, right,

1464
01:13:15.239 --> 01:13:16.960
<v Speaker 4>It's all all these kind of things.

1465
01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:20.279
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, dude, Yeah, and then and then what happens

1466
01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:22.840
<v Speaker 5>is is you know what I do to myself in

1467
01:13:22.920 --> 01:13:24.560
<v Speaker 5>that moment is like, well, you know, if I didn't

1468
01:13:24.600 --> 01:13:27.239
<v Speaker 5>have that meditation and I didn't see that the Pegasus

1469
01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:29.439
<v Speaker 5>and I just so happened to watch class Clash of

1470
01:13:29.479 --> 01:13:30.600
<v Speaker 5>the Titans.

1471
01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:30.960
<v Speaker 4>It wouldn't have happened.

1472
01:13:31.439 --> 01:13:34.239
<v Speaker 5>Even I wouldn't even have thought to you know what

1473
01:13:34.319 --> 01:13:36.439
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know seeing the same thing that I

1474
01:13:36.479 --> 01:13:39.239
<v Speaker 5>would have seen anyways. You know, it's like I don't know,

1475
01:13:39.319 --> 01:13:40.600
<v Speaker 5>but still cool though, you know.

1476
01:13:40.640 --> 01:13:43.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, definitely, And I definitely recommend to people if you

1477
01:13:43.159 --> 01:13:44.800
<v Speaker 4>do a lot of meditating, or if you like to

1478
01:13:44.840 --> 01:13:47.600
<v Speaker 4>analyze your dreams, or if you want someone to interpret

1479
01:13:47.640 --> 01:13:50.800
<v Speaker 4>your dreams, like me, definitely keep a dream catcher, like

1480
01:13:51.039 --> 01:13:54.880
<v Speaker 4>buy your head somewhere or like, you know, near where

1481
01:13:54.920 --> 01:13:57.600
<v Speaker 4>you're sleeping. I put one up like six months ago,

1482
01:13:57.680 --> 01:14:02.239
<v Speaker 4>and every single night I remember every one of my dreams,

1483
01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:03.239
<v Speaker 4>like super vividly.

1484
01:14:03.479 --> 01:14:05.880
<v Speaker 5>Dude, I'm gonna have to try that because I feel

1485
01:14:05.920 --> 01:14:09.479
<v Speaker 5>like I especially lately, like the last h I don't know,

1486
01:14:09.840 --> 01:14:12.359
<v Speaker 5>four or five months, I've been dreaming every night, like

1487
01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:14.920
<v Speaker 5>I'm for sure I had at least three or four

1488
01:14:15.439 --> 01:14:17.279
<v Speaker 5>different dreams, but by the time I wake up, they

1489
01:14:17.399 --> 01:14:20.159
<v Speaker 5>they're so jumbled together, and I'm like, I don't know,

1490
01:14:20.600 --> 01:14:22.399
<v Speaker 5>I feel like I did a lot of shit right now,

1491
01:14:22.520 --> 01:14:24.439
<v Speaker 5>but I just you know, there might be one little

1492
01:14:24.479 --> 01:14:26.359
<v Speaker 5>small aspect of it. But yeah, I'm gonna have to

1493
01:14:26.439 --> 01:14:27.039
<v Speaker 5>try that, dude.

1494
01:14:27.439 --> 01:14:29.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, man, it's definitely worth that. You know, some people

1495
01:14:29.279 --> 01:14:31.520
<v Speaker 4>put crystals behind their head, you know, it's all just

1496
01:14:31.640 --> 01:14:34.640
<v Speaker 4>initiation kind of stuff that you're basically setting an intention

1497
01:14:35.159 --> 01:14:36.760
<v Speaker 4>to remember your dreams.

1498
01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:39.840
<v Speaker 5>Mm hmmm that wa we can shift your attention yeah,

1499
01:14:39.920 --> 01:14:40.359
<v Speaker 5>towards that.

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01:14:41.119 --> 01:14:42.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh, that makes a lot of sense. You're kind of

1501
01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:46.079
<v Speaker 3>taking that first step to shift your attention, which I

1502
01:14:46.159 --> 01:14:49.079
<v Speaker 3>think that's that's the entire you know, reason why you

1503
01:14:49.319 --> 01:14:52.279
<v Speaker 3>would have any kind of ritual or setting your intention

1504
01:14:52.560 --> 01:14:54.720
<v Speaker 3>or having any kind of affirmation or anything like that

1505
01:14:54.840 --> 01:14:59.439
<v Speaker 3>in general, is to just set that initial intention to

1506
01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:01.680
<v Speaker 3>allow it to be able to show itself. Because you

1507
01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:06.079
<v Speaker 3>know that whenever you are presented with anything that it's

1508
01:15:06.479 --> 01:15:10.840
<v Speaker 3>it's another little number within the equation of the infinite

1509
01:15:11.159 --> 01:15:14.319
<v Speaker 3>that now is bringing more possibility of that thing being

1510
01:15:14.359 --> 01:15:15.640
<v Speaker 3>replicated in your Yeah, and it's.

1511
01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:17.880
<v Speaker 4>Like you're setting the momentum for it to occur as

1512
01:15:18.479 --> 01:15:20.720
<v Speaker 4>in your experience as the observer, you know.

1513
01:15:21.119 --> 01:15:23.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, what EA was saying the other night, As far

1514
01:15:23.680 --> 01:15:26.279
<v Speaker 5>as uh, you know, practicing the magic and everything else,

1515
01:15:26.319 --> 01:15:29.000
<v Speaker 5>the two most valuable things that you can have are

1516
01:15:29.239 --> 01:15:32.039
<v Speaker 5>your time and your attention, And if you're using both

1517
01:15:32.079 --> 01:15:36.479
<v Speaker 5>of those together along with yourself, you're unstoppable.

1518
01:15:36.600 --> 01:15:38.960
<v Speaker 4>As great advice, I'm going to take that for myself.

1519
01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:40.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he makes so much sense.

1520
01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:42.359
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't even do blood magic anymore.

1521
01:15:42.880 --> 01:15:44.720
<v Speaker 5>Thinking about it, And I've said this before as far

1522
01:15:44.760 --> 01:15:46.600
<v Speaker 5>as like when you're in class and you're you're wanting

1523
01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:48.920
<v Speaker 5>to look out the window or you're you're drawing, you're

1524
01:15:48.960 --> 01:15:50.800
<v Speaker 5>not really paying, you know, and the teacher's like, hey,

1525
01:15:50.880 --> 01:15:54.720
<v Speaker 5>pay attention, because you're paying something that is valuable. It's

1526
01:15:55.079 --> 01:15:56.880
<v Speaker 5>paying something, yes.

1527
01:15:57.039 --> 01:15:59.479
<v Speaker 3>Yes, to get to get a little weird here, though.

1528
01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:03.319
<v Speaker 3>If if that's what's going on, why do you think

1529
01:16:04.119 --> 01:16:07.039
<v Speaker 3>so if if everything is kind of intention, why is

1530
01:16:07.159 --> 01:16:11.359
<v Speaker 3>it that our minds almost accept that our life force

1531
01:16:11.680 --> 01:16:15.000
<v Speaker 3>and our blood is going to help us manifest certain

1532
01:16:15.079 --> 01:16:17.960
<v Speaker 3>kind of things as in like magical blood rituals and

1533
01:16:18.439 --> 01:16:20.560
<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that, Like because it does seem to

1534
01:16:20.920 --> 01:16:23.319
<v Speaker 3>enhance it. I've never personally done it, but just listen

1535
01:16:23.399 --> 01:16:25.800
<v Speaker 3>to other people. It's like, you know, whenever they would

1536
01:16:25.840 --> 01:16:28.479
<v Speaker 3>do a sacrifice, all the ancients, they you know, practice

1537
01:16:28.479 --> 01:16:31.840
<v Speaker 3>sacrifice all the time, and they they just understood that

1538
01:16:32.079 --> 01:16:35.680
<v Speaker 3>blood would amplify said ritual. What do you think that is?

1539
01:16:36.600 --> 01:16:42.239
<v Speaker 4>Well, I think you know, uh, any we've talked about

1540
01:16:42.239 --> 01:16:45.079
<v Speaker 4>this before actually a little bit, just that like whatever

1541
01:16:45.159 --> 01:16:48.439
<v Speaker 4>it is that triggers you is what it is that

1542
01:16:48.520 --> 01:16:55.039
<v Speaker 4>you need. And you know, uh, it is easy to

1543
01:16:55.319 --> 01:17:00.119
<v Speaker 4>let's say, convince somebody that blood is powerful because of

1544
01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:05.039
<v Speaker 4>logical things, because of mysterious things, because of whatever it

1545
01:17:05.199 --> 01:17:06.520
<v Speaker 4>is a life for it, and these are kind of

1546
01:17:06.560 --> 01:17:07.800
<v Speaker 4>these things that like, you know, it just kind of

1547
01:17:07.840 --> 01:17:09.680
<v Speaker 4>triggers people to be like, oh, yeah, that makes sense

1548
01:17:09.720 --> 01:17:11.680
<v Speaker 4>that that would work, and then it works.

1549
01:17:12.039 --> 01:17:19.600
<v Speaker 5>It's kind of universal understanding is important, right, stop it

1550
01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:20.039
<v Speaker 5>right away?

1551
01:17:20.239 --> 01:17:23.079
<v Speaker 4>Exactly at church they're not drinking blood, they're drinking wine

1552
01:17:23.239 --> 01:17:24.760
<v Speaker 4>right well.

1553
01:17:24.640 --> 01:17:27.840
<v Speaker 3>And like and the same thing goes for like even

1554
01:17:27.880 --> 01:17:31.640
<v Speaker 3>for example, they they have collected all of the perfect

1555
01:17:31.720 --> 01:17:35.039
<v Speaker 3>red heifers and they're going to be performing the sacrifice.

1556
01:17:35.159 --> 01:17:38.760
<v Speaker 3>And in Israel here soon allegedly they already did it

1557
01:17:39.600 --> 01:17:42.119
<v Speaker 3>on a trial practice run and people are going around

1558
01:17:42.199 --> 01:17:45.520
<v Speaker 3>and like divvying out all the ashes and performing miracles

1559
01:17:45.560 --> 01:17:47.520
<v Speaker 3>and all this wild stuff. But it almost makes you wonder,

1560
01:17:47.640 --> 01:17:51.600
<v Speaker 3>like does it really matter? And this is just gonna

1561
01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:53.960
<v Speaker 3>get real weird here just looking at it from another angle, right,

1562
01:17:54.399 --> 01:17:56.840
<v Speaker 3>does it really matter that that red heifer had to

1563
01:17:56.920 --> 01:17:59.720
<v Speaker 3>be perfect to where not a single hair was out

1564
01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:02.319
<v Speaker 3>of place? Right in order to perform that ritual? It

1565
01:18:02.399 --> 01:18:06.680
<v Speaker 3>has to be an exact perfect red heifer, right, And

1566
01:18:06.960 --> 01:18:09.680
<v Speaker 3>and it made me think, like, is it because we

1567
01:18:09.920 --> 01:18:13.920
<v Speaker 3>value the the pure and innocent and sinless the most

1568
01:18:14.039 --> 01:18:17.520
<v Speaker 3>that causes that ritual to work out a little bit

1569
01:18:17.640 --> 01:18:21.760
<v Speaker 3>more because in any other circumstance, you wouldn't just sacrifice

1570
01:18:21.840 --> 01:18:23.920
<v Speaker 3>that that would be the one that you would want

1571
01:18:23.960 --> 01:18:25.640
<v Speaker 3>to eat the most, or the one that would be

1572
01:18:25.680 --> 01:18:28.039
<v Speaker 3>your prized possession. And you know, what do you think

1573
01:18:28.119 --> 01:18:32.159
<v Speaker 3>that is? Like why do you think there's.

1574
01:18:30.800 --> 01:18:33.199
<v Speaker 4>A little bit to be said to about like consciously

1575
01:18:33.560 --> 01:18:37.359
<v Speaker 4>doing something that like you know, you I am consciously

1576
01:18:38.119 --> 01:18:42.079
<v Speaker 4>taking care of this bull or this cow, I'm consciously

1577
01:18:42.600 --> 01:18:45.960
<v Speaker 4>preparing it. I'm not just like slaughtering it, get on

1578
01:18:46.439 --> 01:18:48.319
<v Speaker 4>gone with it. You know. It's like it's kind of

1579
01:18:48.359 --> 01:18:51.119
<v Speaker 4>like how uh Eckar totally talks about how like consciously

1580
01:18:51.239 --> 01:18:53.560
<v Speaker 4>making tea right. It's like, so it's like kind of

1581
01:18:55.439 --> 01:18:59.720
<v Speaker 4>it's more about like, you know, it's almost paying respect

1582
01:18:59.800 --> 01:19:02.680
<v Speaker 4>to the cat, the cow in some ways and respect

1583
01:19:02.760 --> 01:19:05.439
<v Speaker 4>to God that like you know that that we we

1584
01:19:05.600 --> 01:19:09.840
<v Speaker 4>consciously are preparing this with certain things in mind. And

1585
01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:13.279
<v Speaker 4>you know, if you believe that you doing that is

1586
01:19:13.359 --> 01:19:16.960
<v Speaker 4>going to do something, then you created that. You know,

1587
01:19:17.159 --> 01:19:19.720
<v Speaker 4>if if you believe something is conscious, you just made

1588
01:19:19.760 --> 01:19:23.039
<v Speaker 4>it conscious. Right, So if you believe that doing it

1589
01:19:23.119 --> 01:19:25.560
<v Speaker 4>with the pureness and all this and and like you

1590
01:19:25.600 --> 01:19:27.359
<v Speaker 4>spend all this time doing it, just like we were

1591
01:19:27.359 --> 01:19:29.680
<v Speaker 4>talking about with the magic that like if you the

1592
01:19:29.800 --> 01:19:32.279
<v Speaker 4>time and the attention, so the time and the attention

1593
01:19:32.399 --> 01:19:34.000
<v Speaker 4>is on the bull and the purity and the and

1594
01:19:34.119 --> 01:19:37.399
<v Speaker 4>that that you know, making all, then it would probably

1595
01:19:37.439 --> 01:19:38.119
<v Speaker 4>be more magical.

1596
01:19:38.319 --> 01:19:40.439
<v Speaker 5>You're charging the battery, dude, Yeah, just like we do

1597
01:19:40.560 --> 01:19:42.399
<v Speaker 5>with putting a crystal on a on a deck of

1598
01:19:42.520 --> 01:19:45.359
<v Speaker 5>cards or you know what I'm saying, you're you're you

1599
01:19:45.520 --> 01:19:47.279
<v Speaker 5>are putting that energy into that.

1600
01:19:47.800 --> 01:19:51.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. And you know cows represent mother energy and you

1601
01:19:51.159 --> 01:19:56.079
<v Speaker 4>know wounds and you know their double stomachs have a

1602
01:19:56.199 --> 01:19:58.800
<v Speaker 4>mystical meaning to it just that uh you know they

1603
01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:03.560
<v Speaker 4>uh they can it takes a while to digest things,

1604
01:20:03.640 --> 01:20:05.880
<v Speaker 4>but that at all, you know, everything's temporary. Like then

1605
01:20:05.880 --> 01:20:08.279
<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of kind of more mystical understandings to

1606
01:20:08.680 --> 01:20:10.279
<v Speaker 4>what they represent and the purity of that.

1607
01:20:11.439 --> 01:20:14.159
<v Speaker 5>Okay, I love your understanding of all of that. Like

1608
01:20:14.239 --> 01:20:16.600
<v Speaker 5>as far as the animals and all the symbolism that

1609
01:20:16.680 --> 01:20:18.199
<v Speaker 5>goes into that, that's that's awesome.

1610
01:20:18.359 --> 01:20:23.199
<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, and red is grounded energy blood all that.

1611
01:20:23.399 --> 01:20:26.199
<v Speaker 3>You know, Well, it's the color of the sacral chakra too,

1612
01:20:26.279 --> 01:20:26.600
<v Speaker 3>isn't there?

1613
01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:30.279
<v Speaker 4>Yep? So in the color of hell. Interesting, huh.

1614
01:20:32.439 --> 01:20:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Brid said, I like this format where we're all coming together,

1615
01:20:34.960 --> 01:20:38.800
<v Speaker 3>sharing our experiences, trying to figure out all this crazy uh,

1616
01:20:39.199 --> 01:20:42.239
<v Speaker 3>all all this crazy out without no one really above

1617
01:20:42.319 --> 01:20:42.880
<v Speaker 3>anyone else.

1618
01:20:42.960 --> 01:20:43.640
<v Speaker 5>If that makes sense.

1619
01:20:43.680 --> 01:20:46.159
<v Speaker 4>It's more lad, I love that's the energy that were

1620
01:20:46.199 --> 01:20:48.399
<v Speaker 4>trying to create. Man, I don't have any strong opinions.

1621
01:20:48.439 --> 01:20:50.880
<v Speaker 4>If I just if it's fun, I'm gonna follow it.

1622
01:20:52.640 --> 01:20:54.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, especially if you're making your own reality.

1623
01:20:54.920 --> 01:20:56.640
<v Speaker 4>Well, who am I to tell another god what is

1624
01:20:56.760 --> 01:20:58.079
<v Speaker 4>their reality? Right?

1625
01:20:58.680 --> 01:20:58.880
<v Speaker 5>Yep?

1626
01:20:59.319 --> 01:21:05.000
<v Speaker 3>Yes God, brit said, Maybe there is outer outer worlds

1627
01:21:05.079 --> 01:21:07.520
<v Speaker 3>to be found, but they're not actually physical like here.

1628
01:21:08.079 --> 01:21:12.479
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, could be, could be, Yeah, all possibilities exist.

1629
01:21:12.800 --> 01:21:14.800
<v Speaker 3>Do you think that whenever Do you think that whenever

1630
01:21:14.880 --> 01:21:17.399
<v Speaker 3>you die that you become privy to all that information?

1631
01:21:18.640 --> 01:21:21.840
<v Speaker 4>Yes, but it doesn't matter at that point, right. I

1632
01:21:21.840 --> 01:21:24.279
<v Speaker 4>will tell you that when I had my near death experiences,

1633
01:21:24.359 --> 01:21:28.600
<v Speaker 4>you know you have all the answers because you are

1634
01:21:28.680 --> 01:21:30.920
<v Speaker 4>the answers, the questions don't even matter anymore.

1635
01:21:31.199 --> 01:21:32.720
<v Speaker 5>You are the mystery you are.

1636
01:21:33.159 --> 01:21:36.560
<v Speaker 4>Everything was totally clear, Yeah, totally clear, and then you're like,

1637
01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:38.319
<v Speaker 4>oh this is boring, whoop, come back.

1638
01:21:38.760 --> 01:21:40.920
<v Speaker 5>And then you don't remember, just like the dream.

1639
01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:42.720
<v Speaker 4>Or it's like you do, but it's subconscious and it

1640
01:21:42.880 --> 01:21:44.560
<v Speaker 4>slowly comes out.

1641
01:21:44.760 --> 01:21:48.840
<v Speaker 3>Right, there was I wanted to get your opinion on this.

1642
01:21:49.239 --> 01:21:53.399
<v Speaker 3>We had an episode like a year ago with this

1643
01:21:53.640 --> 01:21:58.079
<v Speaker 3>woman who said that she was talking to her deceased

1644
01:21:58.159 --> 01:22:03.640
<v Speaker 3>grandmother through her Roku TV. And she was saying that,

1645
01:22:03.800 --> 01:22:06.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, her grandma and in her entire family, they

1646
01:22:06.600 --> 01:22:09.159
<v Speaker 3>were all, you know, really religious all the time. But

1647
01:22:09.279 --> 01:22:12.680
<v Speaker 3>then her grandma died and she noticed that there seemed

1648
01:22:12.720 --> 01:22:15.439
<v Speaker 3>to be messages being written on her TV that were

1649
01:22:15.479 --> 01:22:18.880
<v Speaker 3>directed at certain family members. And it made no sense, right, Uh,

1650
01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:21.239
<v Speaker 3>anybody that has like a Roku TV, you're able to

1651
01:22:21.760 --> 01:22:23.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, whenever you go and type a word in,

1652
01:22:23.880 --> 01:22:26.520
<v Speaker 3>you have to do like letter by letter by letter

1653
01:22:26.600 --> 01:22:28.399
<v Speaker 3>by letter. It's not going to show up like full

1654
01:22:28.439 --> 01:22:31.159
<v Speaker 3>word kind of thing, right, And she was saying that

1655
01:22:31.800 --> 01:22:35.840
<v Speaker 3>that eventually everybody came to understand that, yeah, that's grandma, right,

1656
01:22:35.960 --> 01:22:38.039
<v Speaker 3>Like that that is Grandma. She's talking to us through

1657
01:22:38.079 --> 01:22:40.560
<v Speaker 3>this fucking rokue TV right made no damn sense, but

1658
01:22:40.960 --> 01:22:43.800
<v Speaker 3>it sounds awesome. But what her what she said was

1659
01:22:43.920 --> 01:22:45.600
<v Speaker 3>is that her grandma is speaking to her from the

1660
01:22:45.680 --> 01:22:48.479
<v Speaker 3>other side in the sense and almost has taken on

1661
01:22:48.720 --> 01:22:53.000
<v Speaker 3>an esoteric lens of the world. It's not so boxed

1662
01:22:53.079 --> 01:22:56.279
<v Speaker 3>in and cagey. It's more wide open and trying to

1663
01:22:56.319 --> 01:22:59.000
<v Speaker 3>show her the esoteric lens of everything and looking at

1664
01:22:59.039 --> 01:23:01.199
<v Speaker 3>everything through a different lens in that sense. What do

1665
01:23:01.239 --> 01:23:03.520
<v Speaker 3>you what are your thoughts on what is going on

1666
01:23:03.680 --> 01:23:06.000
<v Speaker 3>there from from the way that you look at this reality.

1667
01:23:06.520 --> 01:23:08.840
<v Speaker 4>Well, I think that, like, you know, when the physical

1668
01:23:08.960 --> 01:23:12.800
<v Speaker 4>body dies, which I actually do believe is a choice.

1669
01:23:12.800 --> 01:23:14.840
<v Speaker 4>I believe you want to you could literally live forever,

1670
01:23:15.199 --> 01:23:18.199
<v Speaker 4>but that like when the physical body dies, it literally

1671
01:23:18.319 --> 01:23:20.800
<v Speaker 4>is like taking off a tight shoe, and it's like

1672
01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:26.159
<v Speaker 4>it's like taking off a layer of bullshit. You're like, ugh. So,

1673
01:23:27.359 --> 01:23:30.319
<v Speaker 4>you know, Grandma might have taken off, you know, a

1674
01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:33.079
<v Speaker 4>layer of herself when she went back into the the

1675
01:23:33.239 --> 01:23:36.840
<v Speaker 4>all if you will, and and had you know, maybe

1676
01:23:36.920 --> 01:23:41.199
<v Speaker 4>a more refined understanding of things, or you know, a

1677
01:23:41.319 --> 01:23:45.439
<v Speaker 4>combination of her past lives came through and and you know,

1678
01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:48.560
<v Speaker 4>she's kind of a combination of these things. And just that, Yeah,

1679
01:23:48.640 --> 01:23:53.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, beyond that, you know, everything is here and

1680
01:23:53.119 --> 01:24:01.319
<v Speaker 4>now and from the unseen realms. Uh, they all have

1681
01:24:01.520 --> 01:24:03.920
<v Speaker 4>access to this place. Only from this place do we

1682
01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:05.880
<v Speaker 4>have a hard time accessing the other places?

1683
01:24:07.239 --> 01:24:10.720
<v Speaker 3>It does seem like a bit of a conundrum, and

1684
01:24:11.199 --> 01:24:13.640
<v Speaker 3>so it's it's just fun trying to look at it

1685
01:24:13.680 --> 01:24:16.159
<v Speaker 3>from that angle, like what is going on there? And

1686
01:24:16.279 --> 01:24:18.760
<v Speaker 3>I guess it's not really that much different, you know,

1687
01:24:18.920 --> 01:24:22.239
<v Speaker 3>as opposed to you know, you talking to family members

1688
01:24:22.359 --> 01:24:26.560
<v Speaker 3>or deities or whatever in meditations or in prayer or

1689
01:24:26.680 --> 01:24:29.840
<v Speaker 3>something like that. This is more of just like some

1690
01:24:30.159 --> 01:24:33.520
<v Speaker 3>kind of physical manifestation, almost like a Weiji board kind

1691
01:24:33.560 --> 01:24:36.319
<v Speaker 3>of situation or a Tarot kind of situation, to where

1692
01:24:36.760 --> 01:24:40.359
<v Speaker 3>they're communicating with you through a certain medium.

1693
01:24:41.159 --> 01:24:43.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so when it sounds like it was the perfect

1694
01:24:43.319 --> 01:24:45.720
<v Speaker 4>medium to choose because they all kind of agreed like yeah, okay,

1695
01:24:45.840 --> 01:24:48.279
<v Speaker 4>this is Grandma. So it's like it's yeah, it does

1696
01:24:48.359 --> 01:24:52.880
<v Speaker 4>work in mysterious ways, and that you know, I've had

1697
01:24:54.520 --> 01:24:59.640
<v Speaker 4>I've had experiences where people who were not dead yet

1698
01:25:00.319 --> 01:25:04.239
<v Speaker 4>to me as like an angel form of themselves, like

1699
01:25:04.399 --> 01:25:06.960
<v Speaker 4>a couple weeks before they died, and they came to

1700
01:25:07.039 --> 01:25:09.680
<v Speaker 4>me in like a vision and then you know, I've

1701
01:25:09.680 --> 01:25:14.720
<v Speaker 4>also had stuff where my future self has talked to

1702
01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:18.319
<v Speaker 4>myself now in meditations and like I know that like

1703
01:25:18.439 --> 01:25:20.239
<v Speaker 4>at some point in the future, I'm gonna be meditating

1704
01:25:20.319 --> 01:25:22.079
<v Speaker 4>and like go back and talk to my younger self

1705
01:25:22.560 --> 01:25:23.920
<v Speaker 4>and things like that. You know.

1706
01:25:24.079 --> 01:25:24.760
<v Speaker 5>So I think.

1707
01:25:26.159 --> 01:25:30.600
<v Speaker 4>Time is an illusion and as the observer, the projector

1708
01:25:30.680 --> 01:25:34.640
<v Speaker 4>and recorder of my reality, whatever I need to experience

1709
01:25:34.760 --> 01:25:36.840
<v Speaker 4>is going to come through in the infinite ways possible.

1710
01:25:36.960 --> 01:25:37.119
<v Speaker 4>You know.

1711
01:25:38.039 --> 01:25:41.399
<v Speaker 5>That's interesting actually when we talk about like the infinite,

1712
01:25:41.720 --> 01:25:44.239
<v Speaker 5>you know, and when you go to the other side

1713
01:25:44.520 --> 01:25:47.119
<v Speaker 5>and now you have all the answers, right, But if

1714
01:25:47.239 --> 01:25:50.279
<v Speaker 5>everything is so infinite and we are the observer and

1715
01:25:50.359 --> 01:25:53.960
<v Speaker 5>projector of what we experienced, then how could there be

1716
01:25:54.039 --> 01:25:55.800
<v Speaker 5>an objective truth at all?

1717
01:25:56.199 --> 01:25:59.319
<v Speaker 4>They can't. And that's why it's so scary to be

1718
01:25:59.640 --> 01:26:02.960
<v Speaker 4>in this an experience because we're actually constantly going into

1719
01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:06.319
<v Speaker 4>the unknown. We're supposed to be right because we're creating it.

1720
01:26:06.479 --> 01:26:08.199
<v Speaker 4>Where are the ones supposed to go there for the

1721
01:26:08.279 --> 01:26:08.840
<v Speaker 4>first time?

1722
01:26:09.359 --> 01:26:15.079
<v Speaker 5>Right, So everybody's right and wrong? Yeah, yeah, that's great,

1723
01:26:15.279 --> 01:26:19.279
<v Speaker 5>And now I love this. I got chills. You know,

1724
01:26:19.439 --> 01:26:20.279
<v Speaker 5>something unlocked.

1725
01:26:20.720 --> 01:26:23.720
<v Speaker 3>We had a we had a conversation the other night,

1726
01:26:23.880 --> 01:26:28.239
<v Speaker 3>and we were talking about the Watchers and falling down

1727
01:26:28.359 --> 01:26:30.840
<v Speaker 3>from heaven and a third of the stars coming down

1728
01:26:30.880 --> 01:26:33.159
<v Speaker 3>to earth, and you know, could that have been the

1729
01:26:33.279 --> 01:26:35.920
<v Speaker 3>dragon's tail that swept you know, a third of the

1730
01:26:35.960 --> 01:26:38.279
<v Speaker 3>stars and and and that could that have been the

1731
01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:41.279
<v Speaker 3>fall and the cause of the nephalom and the cause

1732
01:26:41.319 --> 01:26:43.720
<v Speaker 3>of the flood and all this kind of wild shit, right,

1733
01:26:44.119 --> 01:26:46.439
<v Speaker 3>And it made me think, like, you know, what, if

1734
01:26:46.479 --> 01:26:50.239
<v Speaker 3>you were to look at it through the watchers perspective

1735
01:26:50.720 --> 01:26:53.960
<v Speaker 3>instead of just rebelling, could it be something else?

1736
01:26:54.399 --> 01:26:55.000
<v Speaker 4>Right? It?

1737
01:26:55.039 --> 01:26:57.039
<v Speaker 3>Could it just be that they wanted to try and

1738
01:26:57.159 --> 01:27:00.920
<v Speaker 3>see what it was like to to live in a

1739
01:27:01.039 --> 01:27:03.880
<v Speaker 3>dualistic kind of place rather than just everything always going

1740
01:27:03.920 --> 01:27:07.399
<v Speaker 3>perfectly all the time, you know. And it made me

1741
01:27:07.479 --> 01:27:11.039
<v Speaker 3>think about like a past life regression that I did

1742
01:27:11.439 --> 01:27:14.079
<v Speaker 3>so before I ever got into like being a past

1743
01:27:14.119 --> 01:27:19.239
<v Speaker 3>life regressionist. There, I got hypnotized twice and we were

1744
01:27:19.319 --> 01:27:22.239
<v Speaker 3>like practicing on each other, me and a couple other hypnotists.

1745
01:27:22.239 --> 01:27:25.399
<v Speaker 3>We're practicing on hypnotizing each other and giving past life aggressions.

1746
01:27:25.600 --> 01:27:27.560
<v Speaker 3>So my second time, which was my last time that

1747
01:27:27.640 --> 01:27:30.239
<v Speaker 3>I ever got, you know, regressed to a past life.

1748
01:27:30.600 --> 01:27:34.039
<v Speaker 3>I was like this, this watcher above a planet or

1749
01:27:34.039 --> 01:27:36.600
<v Speaker 3>a world or something like that. And I became like

1750
01:27:37.079 --> 01:27:40.319
<v Speaker 3>real not upset, but just kind of sad that people

1751
01:27:40.439 --> 01:27:44.159
<v Speaker 3>stopped calling on me for help, right, And and like

1752
01:27:44.359 --> 01:27:47.239
<v Speaker 3>in that moment, I was like, man, these people they're struggling,

1753
01:27:47.279 --> 01:27:49.159
<v Speaker 3>they're going through all these hard times. If they only

1754
01:27:49.279 --> 01:27:51.119
<v Speaker 3>knew that I was here, what would be a way

1755
01:27:51.159 --> 01:27:53.479
<v Speaker 3>to help them remember? And that I couldn't figure out

1756
01:27:53.520 --> 01:27:55.880
<v Speaker 3>a way to help them remember without like interrupting their

1757
01:27:55.920 --> 01:27:58.359
<v Speaker 3>own free will in a sense, right, And so what

1758
01:27:58.520 --> 01:28:00.560
<v Speaker 3>happened was is I I ended up going to the

1759
01:28:00.640 --> 01:28:03.680
<v Speaker 3>manager of that department, which I looked at as Odin,

1760
01:28:03.960 --> 01:28:06.039
<v Speaker 3>that was sitting at some kind of throne, and I said, look,

1761
01:28:06.079 --> 01:28:08.520
<v Speaker 3>I want to be able to help. I can't help

1762
01:28:08.560 --> 01:28:10.600
<v Speaker 3>at all up here, Like there's nothing that I can

1763
01:28:10.680 --> 01:28:13.119
<v Speaker 3>do that is going to help anybody. I feel like

1764
01:28:13.159 --> 01:28:14.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm just wasting my time and I'm just going to

1765
01:28:14.920 --> 01:28:19.399
<v Speaker 3>fade into nothingness after a while, right, And I was

1766
01:28:19.439 --> 01:28:20.840
<v Speaker 3>like I want to be able to help. I want

1767
01:28:20.880 --> 01:28:22.560
<v Speaker 3>to try and get like boots on the ground, Like

1768
01:28:22.720 --> 01:28:25.119
<v Speaker 3>can I just go down there and help them in

1769
01:28:25.239 --> 01:28:28.079
<v Speaker 3>some kind of way? And Odin's like your wish is

1770
01:28:28.119 --> 01:28:29.960
<v Speaker 3>my command, and he takes his staff on both of

1771
01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:31.960
<v Speaker 3>my shoulders, and as soon as he touches my head

1772
01:28:32.840 --> 01:28:35.880
<v Speaker 3>with the final anointing or whatever, I'm like coming through

1773
01:28:35.920 --> 01:28:38.520
<v Speaker 3>a womb like which is kind of crazy, right, And

1774
01:28:38.560 --> 01:28:42.920
<v Speaker 3>it almost made me really look at the fallen angels

1775
01:28:43.039 --> 01:28:45.720
<v Speaker 3>or the watchers that have fallen in a different perspective,

1776
01:28:45.880 --> 01:28:49.039
<v Speaker 3>like is it possible that they kind of just I

1777
01:28:49.079 --> 01:28:52.239
<v Speaker 3>don't know, want to to come down and raise the

1778
01:28:52.359 --> 01:28:55.159
<v Speaker 3>vibration of the earth or whatever you want to say, like,

1779
01:28:55.239 --> 01:28:58.039
<v Speaker 3>what are your thoughts on that angle of the fallen?

1780
01:28:59.840 --> 01:29:07.479
<v Speaker 4>I think that through duality, yes, things manifested as like

1781
01:29:07.640 --> 01:29:12.439
<v Speaker 4>demi gods and light beings, angel the fall and however

1782
01:29:12.439 --> 01:29:14.319
<v Speaker 4>we want to look at it, and that they are

1783
01:29:14.439 --> 01:29:18.399
<v Speaker 4>essentially part of the light and dark forces that kind

1784
01:29:18.439 --> 01:29:24.600
<v Speaker 4>of are a let's say, part of the fabric of

1785
01:29:24.720 --> 01:29:27.159
<v Speaker 4>this reality. Like they literally are like the things that

1786
01:29:27.199 --> 01:29:28.520
<v Speaker 4>are holding it together.

1787
01:29:30.199 --> 01:29:30.600
<v Speaker 5>And that.

1788
01:29:33.119 --> 01:29:40.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so that like God's source duality then created like demigods,

1789
01:29:40.079 --> 01:29:43.439
<v Speaker 4>you know, angels, light beings and eventually like it got

1790
01:29:43.800 --> 01:29:46.359
<v Speaker 4>more and more and more dense to be to be

1791
01:29:46.640 --> 01:29:50.800
<v Speaker 4>in physical form, but that these light and dark forces

1792
01:29:50.960 --> 01:29:53.199
<v Speaker 4>don't have free will in the sense that we do.

1793
01:29:54.159 --> 01:29:57.600
<v Speaker 4>That they're doing their jobs beautifully, but that you know,

1794
01:29:57.800 --> 01:29:59.680
<v Speaker 4>the darker doing the dark things, the light are doing

1795
01:29:59.680 --> 01:30:01.600
<v Speaker 4>the light things, and they work together and it's all

1796
01:30:01.960 --> 01:30:04.640
<v Speaker 4>but that they are in a way almost jealous of

1797
01:30:04.800 --> 01:30:08.079
<v Speaker 4>us because we have so much free will and we

1798
01:30:08.159 --> 01:30:11.680
<v Speaker 4>can experience both the light and the dark and transmute

1799
01:30:12.159 --> 01:30:18.119
<v Speaker 4>and essentially that we are the manifesting power, so that

1800
01:30:18.319 --> 01:30:23.239
<v Speaker 4>the forces that don't take material form can only influence

1801
01:30:23.359 --> 01:30:27.039
<v Speaker 4>us to manifest the reality that they prefer. So how

1802
01:30:27.119 --> 01:30:30.119
<v Speaker 4>we then take our power back is through creativity and

1803
01:30:30.279 --> 01:30:31.800
<v Speaker 4>creating the reality that we prefer.

1804
01:30:32.239 --> 01:30:35.439
<v Speaker 5>That's great. I love that, dude very well, said man,

1805
01:30:35.760 --> 01:30:38.520
<v Speaker 5>thank you so jealous of us because we don't know

1806
01:30:38.680 --> 01:30:41.079
<v Speaker 5>what we don't know, you know, and they just seem

1807
01:30:41.159 --> 01:30:42.600
<v Speaker 5>to know just about everything.

1808
01:30:42.960 --> 01:30:46.840
<v Speaker 3>Yea way that probably in the same way that we

1809
01:30:46.880 --> 01:30:50.439
<v Speaker 3>look at like little kids, right, everything is so open,

1810
01:30:50.560 --> 01:30:52.920
<v Speaker 3>they don't have any restrictions, They can be whatever they

1811
01:30:53.000 --> 01:30:54.640
<v Speaker 3>want to be. Meanwhile, we get older.

1812
01:30:54.920 --> 01:30:57.640
<v Speaker 4>Exactly, and I think that's how ET's kind of look

1813
01:30:57.680 --> 01:31:00.439
<v Speaker 4>at us too, as like they're kind of like younger,

1814
01:31:00.560 --> 01:31:03.640
<v Speaker 4>inner child, you know, more innocent, like, oh, we got

1815
01:31:03.760 --> 01:31:05.760
<v Speaker 4>to health these guys, because they just don't really kind

1816
01:31:05.800 --> 01:31:08.039
<v Speaker 4>of realize, you know, some of them think that way

1817
01:31:08.119 --> 01:31:10.079
<v Speaker 4>some of us. Some of them probably use us for fuel.

1818
01:31:10.600 --> 01:31:14.439
<v Speaker 4>Some of us probably just come here for recreational purposes.

1819
01:31:14.039 --> 01:31:18.720
<v Speaker 3>You know, right, Yeah, yeah, so much fun looking at

1820
01:31:18.720 --> 01:31:22.000
<v Speaker 3>all this kind of stuff, Pete said, Is Banks can't.

1821
01:31:23.479 --> 01:31:27.039
<v Speaker 3>Pete said, is Banks referring to Sun Wukong, the monkey

1822
01:31:27.159 --> 01:31:34.920
<v Speaker 3>king Goku from Dragon Ball Z is inspired by him. Yes, yes, nice, Danny, brother.

1823
01:31:35.600 --> 01:31:37.560
<v Speaker 4>My brother's a kung fu master, so I know a

1824
01:31:37.600 --> 01:31:39.960
<v Speaker 4>lot about kind of more than ancient Chinese kung fu.

1825
01:31:40.840 --> 01:31:42.199
<v Speaker 5>What was the second one that you put up?

1826
01:31:42.399 --> 01:31:46.600
<v Speaker 3>The Book of Jasher Oh okay, yeah, he threw up

1827
01:31:46.600 --> 01:31:52.560
<v Speaker 3>the nineteen seventy five King James Bible. Tooty sweet, Oh, Danny.

1828
01:31:53.239 --> 01:31:55.279
<v Speaker 3>So you're actually the same as me. As far as

1829
01:31:55.319 --> 01:31:58.239
<v Speaker 3>the Chinese zodiac. You're also a metal horse. It's actually

1830
01:31:58.239 --> 01:32:01.000
<v Speaker 3>a golden horse that year because it's like all the

1831
01:32:01.039 --> 01:32:03.720
<v Speaker 3>different metals and the different types of liquid and stuff

1832
01:32:03.800 --> 01:32:06.600
<v Speaker 3>like that. It changes like every seventy years or whatever

1833
01:32:06.680 --> 01:32:06.880
<v Speaker 3>it is.

1834
01:32:07.000 --> 01:32:09.159
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, what I love about the Chinese zodiac too

1835
01:32:09.239 --> 01:32:10.640
<v Speaker 4>is they have the four elements, but then they have

1836
01:32:10.880 --> 01:32:14.680
<v Speaker 4>metal and that like the metal I think is such

1837
01:32:14.720 --> 01:32:17.359
<v Speaker 4>a cool element to add because it's like a it's

1838
01:32:17.399 --> 01:32:19.279
<v Speaker 4>like a man made thing, and it's like a combination

1839
01:32:19.960 --> 01:32:21.840
<v Speaker 4>of things. I don't know, I just I always thought

1840
01:32:21.840 --> 01:32:23.279
<v Speaker 4>that that was a really interesting.

1841
01:32:23.159 --> 01:32:27.079
<v Speaker 5>Thing, something that has been transmuted.

1842
01:32:26.680 --> 01:32:30.760
<v Speaker 3>A synergy, right, Yeah, Oh dude, It's just like whenever

1843
01:32:30.840 --> 01:32:35.159
<v Speaker 3>we read The The Alchemist by Polo Cuelo. Dude, anybody

1844
01:32:35.239 --> 01:32:37.119
<v Speaker 3>that hasn't read that book, we I mean we read

1845
01:32:37.159 --> 01:32:40.479
<v Speaker 3>it on the show, But fucking awesome story, dude. All

1846
01:32:40.880 --> 01:32:43.720
<v Speaker 3>basically all about transmutation. That's really what it's all about,

1847
01:32:43.800 --> 01:32:45.439
<v Speaker 3>and just the alchemy of the soul in a sense.

1848
01:32:46.600 --> 01:32:50.039
<v Speaker 5>It's it's got a lot of beautiful messages, dude, something

1849
01:32:50.119 --> 01:32:50.960
<v Speaker 5>that you could really apply.

1850
01:32:51.800 --> 01:32:52.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1851
01:32:52.600 --> 01:32:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh damn, Danny said, I think I would come back

1852
01:32:55.000 --> 01:32:57.359
<v Speaker 3>as my son, see how I was as a dad.

1853
01:32:59.479 --> 01:33:00.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's good way to look at it.

1854
01:33:01.239 --> 01:33:03.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah, and you have and you will. You know,

1855
01:33:03.439 --> 01:33:06.199
<v Speaker 4>you your son has been, your father has been, your

1856
01:33:06.279 --> 01:33:09.560
<v Speaker 4>lover has been the one that murdered you. Like everything

1857
01:33:09.840 --> 01:33:13.000
<v Speaker 4>is recycling, right, and so if you want to feel

1858
01:33:13.039 --> 01:33:15.600
<v Speaker 4>that way, you already have, and you will at some

1859
01:33:15.720 --> 01:33:17.880
<v Speaker 4>point in another carnate incarnation.

1860
01:33:17.640 --> 01:33:20.479
<v Speaker 3>Or you know, well, I mean just think about like

1861
01:33:20.600 --> 01:33:23.039
<v Speaker 3>all the different masks that Jim Carrey wears and all

1862
01:33:23.039 --> 01:33:25.520
<v Speaker 3>the different movies that he's in. It's like, you know,

1863
01:33:25.720 --> 01:33:28.079
<v Speaker 3>he can be the Mask, he can be ace Ventura,

1864
01:33:28.199 --> 01:33:29.880
<v Speaker 3>he can be the Grinch, you know what I'm saying,

1865
01:33:29.960 --> 01:33:33.000
<v Speaker 3>Like he can be all these different characters, but it's

1866
01:33:33.039 --> 01:33:35.199
<v Speaker 3>still the same kind of energy behind everything.

1867
01:33:35.319 --> 01:33:35.520
<v Speaker 5>Still.

1868
01:33:36.319 --> 01:33:38.800
<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, and I remember asking. I remember asking one

1869
01:33:38.800 --> 01:33:40.800
<v Speaker 4>of my spiritual teachers when I first started waking up.

1870
01:33:40.840 --> 01:33:43.680
<v Speaker 4>I was like, wait, so, like if I'm you and

1871
01:33:43.800 --> 01:33:47.279
<v Speaker 4>I'm everybody, then like, well, I like reincarnate as you

1872
01:33:47.399 --> 01:33:49.560
<v Speaker 4>at some point and like live this again like as you.

1873
01:33:50.039 --> 01:33:51.680
<v Speaker 4>And he was like, well, you don't have to, because

1874
01:33:51.720 --> 01:33:55.079
<v Speaker 4>you're living me through you. And I just thought that

1875
01:33:55.199 --> 01:33:57.960
<v Speaker 4>was very fascinating. And I was like, oh, that feels

1876
01:33:58.159 --> 01:33:58.880
<v Speaker 4>really good.

1877
01:34:00.880 --> 01:34:03.399
<v Speaker 3>That does feel nice. It feels the water's warm.

1878
01:34:03.439 --> 01:34:03.840
<v Speaker 5>On that one.

1879
01:34:07.119 --> 01:34:10.439
<v Speaker 3>Brit said, I'm a lion in Western astrology and a

1880
01:34:10.560 --> 01:34:14.479
<v Speaker 3>tiger and Chinese astrology, so just cats all around.

1881
01:34:14.640 --> 01:34:15.680
<v Speaker 5>Not going to use the other word.

1882
01:34:19.279 --> 01:34:21.640
<v Speaker 4>I love cats. I'm a liar and star seed myself.

1883
01:34:22.079 --> 01:34:23.840
<v Speaker 4>If you couldn't tell what the lions.

1884
01:34:23.520 --> 01:34:26.199
<v Speaker 3>Mean, I'm trying to grow it back out dude, every

1885
01:34:26.239 --> 01:34:28.279
<v Speaker 3>time I cut every time my hair gets long, for

1886
01:34:28.359 --> 01:34:29.960
<v Speaker 3>some reason, I think it's a good idea to cut

1887
01:34:29.960 --> 01:34:33.439
<v Speaker 3>it off, and just because you almost start to get like,

1888
01:34:33.840 --> 01:34:35.479
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if anybody else feels this way, but

1889
01:34:35.720 --> 01:34:37.439
<v Speaker 3>you almost start to get jealous of people that are

1890
01:34:37.479 --> 01:34:39.399
<v Speaker 3>walking around with short hair, Like, oh man, it's so

1891
01:34:39.479 --> 01:34:41.800
<v Speaker 3>much less work. You know, you ain't got to wash

1892
01:34:41.880 --> 01:34:44.079
<v Speaker 3>and condition it and brush it and comb it and

1893
01:34:44.199 --> 01:34:46.720
<v Speaker 3>maintain it every day. It's a full on pet that

1894
01:34:46.760 --> 01:34:49.640
<v Speaker 3>you gotta deal with. But then I see you and

1895
01:34:49.720 --> 01:34:51.560
<v Speaker 3>I got this short hair over here, and I'm like, God,

1896
01:34:51.640 --> 01:34:53.319
<v Speaker 3>damn it, I need to grow this time.

1897
01:34:53.600 --> 01:34:55.439
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I always I was, you know, whenever I

1898
01:34:55.520 --> 01:34:57.600
<v Speaker 4>got hand tattoos or grew my hair, like when I

1899
01:34:57.680 --> 01:34:59.439
<v Speaker 4>still had a nine to five job in the matrix,

1900
01:34:59.520 --> 01:35:02.039
<v Speaker 4>like I always like. And now that I broke out

1901
01:35:02.079 --> 01:35:03.920
<v Speaker 4>of that shit, I fucking I'm like, let's fucking go.

1902
01:35:04.439 --> 01:35:04.880
<v Speaker 5>Oh dude.

1903
01:35:05.039 --> 01:35:07.880
<v Speaker 3>You ever see like sad Guru, like his hair is

1904
01:35:07.920 --> 01:35:10.800
<v Speaker 3>all over the place, he has this crazy looking beard.

1905
01:35:10.840 --> 01:35:13.720
<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, there's a lot of mystical spiritual ties

1906
01:35:13.760 --> 01:35:16.560
<v Speaker 4>to hair. You know, it's an extension of our nervous

1907
01:35:16.600 --> 01:35:19.640
<v Speaker 4>system essentially, right and it's like it picks up a

1908
01:35:19.680 --> 01:35:21.479
<v Speaker 4>lot of energy. It's kind of like how cats feel

1909
01:35:21.520 --> 01:35:23.399
<v Speaker 4>things with their hair, you know, and that kind of stuff.

1910
01:35:23.439 --> 01:35:25.680
<v Speaker 4>And that's why it's also really important that if you

1911
01:35:25.760 --> 01:35:27.039
<v Speaker 4>have a lot of hair and you're doing a lot

1912
01:35:27.039 --> 01:35:29.439
<v Speaker 4>of spiritual work, that you wash it a lot and

1913
01:35:29.960 --> 01:35:30.840
<v Speaker 4>this kind of stuff.

1914
01:35:31.399 --> 01:35:35.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh, because it'll like carry energy from day to day

1915
01:35:35.359 --> 01:35:35.840
<v Speaker 3>in that sense.

1916
01:35:35.920 --> 01:35:36.079
<v Speaker 5>Yep.

1917
01:35:36.319 --> 01:35:36.840
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely.

1918
01:35:37.560 --> 01:35:40.840
<v Speaker 5>I made the awful mistake of shaving my beard, and

1919
01:35:40.880 --> 01:35:44.039
<v Speaker 5>I feel like I lost a part of myself. It's awful.

1920
01:35:44.720 --> 01:35:46.600
<v Speaker 5>I can't wait for it to grow. Bag. I'm actually

1921
01:35:46.680 --> 01:35:49.720
<v Speaker 5>gonna need you to send me some of yours. I

1922
01:35:49.800 --> 01:35:52.000
<v Speaker 5>actually got sponsored by it enough to go around.

1923
01:35:52.279 --> 01:35:54.479
<v Speaker 4>I got sponsored by a beard company that's pretty good

1924
01:35:54.520 --> 01:35:58.960
<v Speaker 4>actually called Nickel City Beard Blends. They're out of Canada.

1925
01:35:59.279 --> 01:36:01.520
<v Speaker 4>Oh nice, anybody's interested.

1926
01:36:01.760 --> 01:36:04.720
<v Speaker 3>That's like a is that like a like a salve

1927
01:36:04.880 --> 01:36:05.199
<v Speaker 3>or something.

1928
01:36:05.319 --> 01:36:08.760
<v Speaker 4>They do everything they have like shampoo salve, Like they

1929
01:36:08.840 --> 01:36:11.439
<v Speaker 4>got stuff for tattoos. They got a bunch of different stuff.

1930
01:36:11.520 --> 01:36:13.600
<v Speaker 5>Oh that's cool. Yeah, Oh yeah, I gotta grow on

1931
01:36:13.640 --> 01:36:15.680
<v Speaker 5>mine back. I right before the show, I went and

1932
01:36:15.720 --> 01:36:17.319
<v Speaker 5>you know, and I was gonna like brush my hair

1933
01:36:17.439 --> 01:36:19.479
<v Speaker 5>or whatever, and like brush my beard. Usually I'll brush

1934
01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:23.239
<v Speaker 5>it out and I'm like, ah, like I'm a who

1935
01:36:23.319 --> 01:36:24.920
<v Speaker 5>am I dude?

1936
01:36:24.960 --> 01:36:26.840
<v Speaker 3>I feel that same way like whenever I go and

1937
01:36:26.920 --> 01:36:28.920
<v Speaker 3>chop my beard off, because I'm so used to doing

1938
01:36:29.039 --> 01:36:31.479
<v Speaker 3>this all the time, you know, like if you got

1939
01:36:31.520 --> 01:36:33.039
<v Speaker 3>a beard, you're so used to just touching it and

1940
01:36:33.199 --> 01:36:33.760
<v Speaker 3>just being weird.

1941
01:36:33.800 --> 01:36:36.199
<v Speaker 5>But so if you're thinking about shaving your beard, anybody

1942
01:36:36.239 --> 01:36:37.680
<v Speaker 5>out there, just don't do it. Don't do it.

1943
01:36:38.239 --> 01:36:43.640
<v Speaker 3>Burn from me, right, Danny said, I've seen a lot

1944
01:36:43.720 --> 01:36:47.319
<v Speaker 3>of red cows here in Canada. I wonder what is

1945
01:36:47.720 --> 01:36:50.399
<v Speaker 3>a red cow supposed to be? Like, I mean, I

1946
01:36:50.439 --> 01:36:52.279
<v Speaker 3>get that it's supposed to be a little bit more

1947
01:36:52.319 --> 01:36:55.359
<v Speaker 3>sacred for the sacrifices and stuff like that, But I

1948
01:36:55.479 --> 01:36:58.279
<v Speaker 3>wonder why a red cow over just a regular like

1949
01:36:58.399 --> 01:36:59.039
<v Speaker 3>spotted cow.

1950
01:36:59.520 --> 01:37:03.640
<v Speaker 5>Who makes the determination whether or not the red heifers perfect?

1951
01:37:04.199 --> 01:37:05.680
<v Speaker 5>Who's who's deciding this?

1952
01:37:06.079 --> 01:37:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, I don't know, U super Market said

1953
01:37:10.600 --> 01:37:14.720
<v Speaker 3>the arcons. The Smith's the programs that run the matrix

1954
01:37:14.840 --> 01:37:18.880
<v Speaker 3>and police it. The watchers Smith being Satan, the angel

1955
01:37:18.960 --> 01:37:23.000
<v Speaker 3>that broke from the Matrix to become independent. Yeah, jeez,

1956
01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:27.640
<v Speaker 3>that's the that's the whole, Like the Gnostic version of

1957
01:37:27.840 --> 01:37:29.920
<v Speaker 3>the Garden of Eden at that point, it's like they

1958
01:37:30.039 --> 01:37:31.560
<v Speaker 3>look at the serpent as the good guy.

1959
01:37:31.439 --> 01:37:35.279
<v Speaker 5>In a sense. Yeah, trying to bring knowledge, right, That's

1960
01:37:35.359 --> 01:37:35.600
<v Speaker 5>kind of.

1961
01:37:35.560 --> 01:37:37.079
<v Speaker 4>How I look at in a lot of ways. I mean,

1962
01:37:37.119 --> 01:37:40.239
<v Speaker 4>I I the metaphor of the Garden of Eden is

1963
01:37:40.560 --> 01:37:43.880
<v Speaker 4>very clear to me, you know, and it's retold in

1964
01:37:43.920 --> 01:37:47.159
<v Speaker 4>the hero's journey and tarot cards and everything else, and

1965
01:37:47.279 --> 01:37:50.960
<v Speaker 4>that it's you know, it was it's the story of

1966
01:37:51.039 --> 01:37:53.079
<v Speaker 4>becoming aware and not just being an animal.

1967
01:37:54.319 --> 01:37:58.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, speaking of Tarot cards, Sean, we got one

1968
01:37:58.119 --> 01:37:59.680
<v Speaker 3>of those bad boys pulled out already.

1969
01:38:00.039 --> 01:38:03.560
<v Speaker 5>Oh dude, you know what I am slacking? What I was?

1970
01:38:03.760 --> 01:38:05.960
<v Speaker 5>I was so into the conversation. Man, I wasn't even

1971
01:38:06.199 --> 01:38:07.119
<v Speaker 5>thinking about it now.

1972
01:38:07.239 --> 01:38:09.479
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I just bought my brother's first tarot card deck

1973
01:38:09.520 --> 01:38:11.319
<v Speaker 4>for his birthday. He was like, I think I'm ready.

1974
01:38:11.399 --> 01:38:14.000
<v Speaker 5>I was like, all right, I'm ready.

1975
01:38:14.399 --> 01:38:17.239
<v Speaker 3>And I have like several tarot decks that I used

1976
01:38:17.279 --> 01:38:19.239
<v Speaker 3>that are like I used to have one that was

1977
01:38:19.279 --> 01:38:22.399
<v Speaker 3>my favorite, right, which was funny because it was the

1978
01:38:22.479 --> 01:38:25.159
<v Speaker 3>cheapest one it was, and it was a deck from

1979
01:38:25.319 --> 01:38:27.920
<v Speaker 3>five Below. Anybody that's ever gone there, it's like, you know,

1980
01:38:27.960 --> 01:38:31.399
<v Speaker 3>a five dollars tarot deck or whatever, right, And and

1981
01:38:31.560 --> 01:38:34.760
<v Speaker 3>then I got this one deck that so for Christmas

1982
01:38:35.239 --> 01:38:37.960
<v Speaker 3>last year, I bought my mom. My mom's like grow

1983
01:38:38.039 --> 01:38:41.319
<v Speaker 3>into coloring and stuff, right, and so I was like, well,

1984
01:38:41.399 --> 01:38:43.560
<v Speaker 3>that'd be interesting. Maybe I'll get her one of those

1985
01:38:44.039 --> 01:38:46.560
<v Speaker 3>tarot decks that you can color and you can make

1986
01:38:46.600 --> 01:38:48.920
<v Speaker 3>your own colors on there or whatever, right, And so

1987
01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:51.399
<v Speaker 3>I bought her that, and for my birthday this year,

1988
01:38:51.479 --> 01:38:53.119
<v Speaker 3>she sent it to me in the mail, all colored,

1989
01:38:53.399 --> 01:38:57.880
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, that's like the perfect like magical tarot deck, right,

1990
01:38:58.439 --> 01:39:01.800
<v Speaker 3>because you think about it, it's seventy eight cards, and

1991
01:39:01.920 --> 01:39:04.600
<v Speaker 3>not only are you coloring the actual picture, you got

1992
01:39:04.720 --> 01:39:07.520
<v Speaker 3>to color the back to every single one too, you know.

1993
01:39:07.800 --> 01:39:10.239
<v Speaker 3>And so there was I just and and it was

1994
01:39:10.439 --> 01:39:13.600
<v Speaker 3>even more awesome because my mom was coloring the actual

1995
01:39:13.680 --> 01:39:15.560
<v Speaker 3>face of the card, you know, whether it's the Queen

1996
01:39:15.600 --> 01:39:18.119
<v Speaker 3>of Swords or the Magician or whatever. And then my

1997
01:39:18.199 --> 01:39:20.279
<v Speaker 3>dad was covering all the back and coloring all the

1998
01:39:20.319 --> 01:39:23.119
<v Speaker 3>backs of them, and so it's like a little mix

1999
01:39:23.239 --> 01:39:25.239
<v Speaker 3>of Yeah, it's like a little mix of them. So

2000
01:39:25.399 --> 01:39:28.840
<v Speaker 3>that that became like my favorite deck. And then I

2001
01:39:29.239 --> 01:39:31.479
<v Speaker 3>decided to get one of those decks because we're really

2002
01:39:31.520 --> 01:39:33.760
<v Speaker 3>trying to understand the tarot and a little bit a

2003
01:39:33.840 --> 01:39:37.359
<v Speaker 3>little bit more and just understanding the symbolism of each

2004
01:39:37.439 --> 01:39:40.119
<v Speaker 3>individual card a little bit more. Maybe if you look

2005
01:39:40.159 --> 01:39:42.239
<v Speaker 3>at one card and you can think of one word

2006
01:39:42.560 --> 01:39:44.960
<v Speaker 3>every time you look at each each card, right, And

2007
01:39:45.079 --> 01:39:47.399
<v Speaker 3>so I bought this other deck that's like one of

2008
01:39:47.479 --> 01:39:50.680
<v Speaker 3>those beginner decks that's like like this right here, it

2009
01:39:50.720 --> 01:39:55.000
<v Speaker 3>shows they the description of what it means, you know. Yeah,

2010
01:39:55.000 --> 01:39:56.680
<v Speaker 3>and so I just pulled up the Night of Cups

2011
01:39:56.760 --> 01:39:59.920
<v Speaker 3>just for example, and it says it stands for Roman.

2012
01:40:00.119 --> 01:40:04.479
<v Speaker 3>It's charming, graceful invitations following your heart and dreams. So

2013
01:40:04.720 --> 01:40:07.439
<v Speaker 3>just like all right, it's almost like flashcards. When are

2014
01:40:07.439 --> 01:40:08.079
<v Speaker 3>you studying for a TI?

2015
01:40:08.159 --> 01:40:09.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Yeah, at that point, it's funny. I've been pulling

2016
01:40:09.920 --> 01:40:11.880
<v Speaker 4>the Night of Cups a lot lately. And it's funny

2017
01:40:11.880 --> 01:40:15.119
<v Speaker 4>because my interpretation of a card has slowly changed over time,

2018
01:40:15.600 --> 01:40:17.600
<v Speaker 4>although it does still mean those things like when I

2019
01:40:17.760 --> 01:40:20.159
<v Speaker 4>see it, I see it as someone who has returned

2020
01:40:21.239 --> 01:40:25.199
<v Speaker 4>from the hero's journey with the Licksir to share with

2021
01:40:25.319 --> 01:40:25.760
<v Speaker 4>the people.

2022
01:40:27.439 --> 01:40:30.159
<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's funny that you bring that up. I was

2023
01:40:30.319 --> 01:40:33.199
<v Speaker 3>just looking and there was this, Uh, I think it

2024
01:40:33.479 --> 01:40:36.119
<v Speaker 3>was let me check it real quick because I sent

2025
01:40:36.199 --> 01:40:40.039
<v Speaker 3>it to myself on Instagram, and that this guy was

2026
01:40:40.079 --> 01:40:42.800
<v Speaker 3>talking about how there's any elixir that you can take

2027
01:40:43.159 --> 01:40:47.199
<v Speaker 3>and basically, no matter what's wrong with you, it's always

2028
01:40:47.279 --> 01:40:49.199
<v Speaker 3>going to heal you in some kind of way, and

2029
01:40:49.279 --> 01:40:52.640
<v Speaker 3>it's made like with brown rice, and yeah.

2030
01:40:52.560 --> 01:40:55.520
<v Speaker 4>Here it is and stuff like that. So yeah, yeah,

2031
01:40:55.640 --> 01:40:56.079
<v Speaker 4>what is his.

2032
01:40:56.319 --> 01:41:02.840
<v Speaker 3>Name, Hiroshi Hasakawa, doctor Roshi Hasakawao. He posted about this

2033
01:41:03.319 --> 01:41:06.880
<v Speaker 3>certain elixir and then mysteriously died in twenty twenty five,

2034
01:41:06.920 --> 01:41:10.399
<v Speaker 3>you know those kind of things. But he called it STAP,

2035
01:41:11.399 --> 01:41:14.119
<v Speaker 3>and so it says STAP sales can be easily made

2036
01:41:14.119 --> 01:41:18.560
<v Speaker 3>at home. They were originally researched at the Kumamato University

2037
01:41:18.640 --> 01:41:22.880
<v Speaker 3>and then entrusted to Reichen. The culture solution used as

2038
01:41:22.920 --> 01:41:27.560
<v Speaker 3>the base was brown rice lactic acid bacteria, and they

2039
01:41:27.680 --> 01:41:30.239
<v Speaker 3>say that that he was basically going on and saying

2040
01:41:30.319 --> 01:41:32.880
<v Speaker 3>that it was some kind of magical elixir to where

2041
01:41:32.920 --> 01:41:35.720
<v Speaker 3>anything that's wrong with you, it will heal you in

2042
01:41:35.800 --> 01:41:38.520
<v Speaker 3>some kind of sense. But it's made of let's see,

2043
01:41:38.720 --> 01:41:44.119
<v Speaker 3>so one cup of pesticide free brown rice, one and

2044
01:41:44.159 --> 01:41:47.520
<v Speaker 3>a half liters of natural water, fifteen grams of natural

2045
01:41:47.640 --> 01:41:50.560
<v Speaker 3>core salt and forty five grams of brown sugar. So

2046
01:41:50.600 --> 01:41:52.319
<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to throw that out there and like

2047
01:41:52.800 --> 01:41:55.279
<v Speaker 3>because people were eating that or drinking it or whatever

2048
01:41:55.960 --> 01:41:58.920
<v Speaker 3>and were healing from everything, like from cancer and like

2049
01:41:59.079 --> 01:42:02.199
<v Speaker 3>crazy thing, right, And I was like, dude, it does

2050
01:42:02.279 --> 01:42:03.760
<v Speaker 3>exist out there anything.

2051
01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:07.560
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, but that's what this is. My whole thing though,

2052
01:42:07.600 --> 01:42:09.880
<v Speaker 4>is that, like even the elixir and the metaphor of

2053
01:42:10.039 --> 01:42:14.319
<v Speaker 4>the taro is it does It's not like an actual thing,

2054
01:42:14.439 --> 01:42:17.239
<v Speaker 4>it's whatever it is to you. M hmm. It's like,

2055
01:42:17.359 --> 01:42:19.800
<v Speaker 4>it's what did you learn? What is the what if

2056
01:42:19.880 --> 01:42:22.479
<v Speaker 4>we all the mixing of all the things together, now,

2057
01:42:22.560 --> 01:42:24.760
<v Speaker 4>how can you heal the people with what you've learned?

2058
01:42:24.960 --> 01:42:25.079
<v Speaker 5>Right?

2059
01:42:25.640 --> 01:42:28.479
<v Speaker 4>And that like c and even this elixir that you're

2060
01:42:28.520 --> 01:42:30.760
<v Speaker 4>talking about, like it wouldn't surprise me at all of

2061
01:42:30.800 --> 01:42:33.039
<v Speaker 4>it would work because if you think it does, it does.

2062
01:42:33.560 --> 01:42:37.319
<v Speaker 5>Oh dude, I feel that same placebo effects. Yeah, dude.

2063
01:42:37.640 --> 01:42:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Every time I get sick, I know in my mind

2064
01:42:40.000 --> 01:42:42.600
<v Speaker 3>that if I take like in a leave, that I

2065
01:42:42.760 --> 01:42:45.119
<v Speaker 3>will be I will be feeling perfect. Like I've just

2066
01:42:45.199 --> 01:42:48.039
<v Speaker 3>accepted that as my reality so much so that if

2067
01:42:48.119 --> 01:42:49.720
<v Speaker 3>as soon as I get sick, and I as soon

2068
01:42:49.760 --> 01:42:51.720
<v Speaker 3>as I pop like in a leve or two, and

2069
01:42:51.840 --> 01:42:53.560
<v Speaker 3>I know I shouldn't be because it's Bayer and it's

2070
01:42:53.600 --> 01:42:57.079
<v Speaker 3>big Pharma whatever, But as soon as I pop it

2071
01:42:57.239 --> 01:43:00.279
<v Speaker 3>like it kicks in before it should. You know what

2072
01:43:00.319 --> 01:43:03.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, Like it doesn't make any damn sense, but

2073
01:43:03.239 --> 01:43:05.479
<v Speaker 3>it's because of the placebo effect and that kind of

2074
01:43:05.520 --> 01:43:07.359
<v Speaker 3>sense to where I've accepted that that is what's going

2075
01:43:07.439 --> 01:43:08.199
<v Speaker 3>to make me feel better.

2076
01:43:08.439 --> 01:43:10.720
<v Speaker 5>And I think that you can the reality that you prefer.

2077
01:43:11.159 --> 01:43:12.760
<v Speaker 3>Right, And I think that you can kind of do

2078
01:43:12.920 --> 01:43:14.439
<v Speaker 3>that with a lot of things, which is a.

2079
01:43:14.479 --> 01:43:16.800
<v Speaker 4>Lot of things. And when I'm done doing energy work,

2080
01:43:17.079 --> 01:43:20.600
<v Speaker 4>if I don't cleanse myself physically and with the air,

2081
01:43:21.199 --> 01:43:23.560
<v Speaker 4>I will like get sick and throw up. So like

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01:43:23.640 --> 01:43:26.239
<v Speaker 4>what I do is I put like organic salt in

2083
01:43:26.359 --> 01:43:29.560
<v Speaker 4>my hands and like imagine the energy like getting sucked

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01:43:29.600 --> 01:43:31.439
<v Speaker 4>out through the salt, and then I washed my hands

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01:43:31.520 --> 01:43:33.359
<v Speaker 4>with the salt. And that's actually a common thing that

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01:43:33.520 --> 01:43:36.960
<v Speaker 4>like mystics and you know, especially like in Mexico and

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01:43:37.079 --> 01:43:40.000
<v Speaker 4>South America do that kind of technique and saging and

2088
01:43:40.039 --> 01:43:42.239
<v Speaker 4>all that kind of stuff. But like it's just the again,

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01:43:42.279 --> 01:43:46.560
<v Speaker 4>it's the awareness, the imagination, the intention, all that kind

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01:43:46.560 --> 01:43:46.920
<v Speaker 4>of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, It's crazy how all that stuff kind of does

2092
01:43:49.840 --> 01:43:52.720
<v Speaker 3>work though, And like you know, for example, people thought

2093
01:43:52.760 --> 01:43:55.199
<v Speaker 3>that it was just like an eclectic thing or a

2094
01:43:55.279 --> 01:43:59.159
<v Speaker 3>witchy thing to save your house, right, and then they

2095
01:43:59.239 --> 01:44:01.760
<v Speaker 3>found out that, oh, it actually does purify the air

2096
01:44:01.880 --> 01:44:04.039
<v Speaker 3>whenever you light it, and it does get rid of

2097
01:44:04.119 --> 01:44:08.079
<v Speaker 3>all of the the you know, impure particles of air,

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01:44:08.159 --> 01:44:12.359
<v Speaker 3>and it moves stagnation right. Yeah, and you're supposed to,

2099
01:44:12.479 --> 01:44:15.600
<v Speaker 3>like they say that, whenever you're cleansing your house or

2100
01:44:15.640 --> 01:44:17.800
<v Speaker 3>your apartment or whatever with stage that you're supposed to

2101
01:44:17.800 --> 01:44:20.079
<v Speaker 3>open a window or open your door and allow all

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01:44:20.199 --> 01:44:21.000
<v Speaker 3>that shit to get out.

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01:44:21.079 --> 01:44:21.159
<v Speaker 1>Right.

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01:44:21.279 --> 01:44:22.920
<v Speaker 4>You have to let you have to give the spirits

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01:44:22.960 --> 01:44:23.399
<v Speaker 4>the way out.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, dude, I got the Tarot card. If you gentlemen

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01:44:27.720 --> 01:44:30.880
<v Speaker 5>are ready, let's go. Got the tin of wands.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, okay, the ten of Ones we always, I mean,

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01:44:37.159 --> 01:44:38.920
<v Speaker 3>we're still learning how to read these bad boys, but

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<v Speaker 3>the tent of Wands, here we go.

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<v Speaker 5>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Be mindful of taking on too many responsibilities. It is

2113
01:44:47.760 --> 01:44:51.760
<v Speaker 3>perfectly reasonable to protect your energy and say no after

2114
01:44:51.880 --> 01:44:54.760
<v Speaker 3>digging into your energetic reserves for a long haul effort,

2115
01:44:54.800 --> 01:44:56.840
<v Speaker 3>you find yourself push past your limits. In the tent

2116
01:44:56.920 --> 01:44:59.319
<v Speaker 3>of Wand's card, a man struggles to carry a bundle

2117
01:44:59.359 --> 01:45:02.000
<v Speaker 3>of ten wands, it representing the difficult task of juggling

2118
01:45:02.079 --> 01:45:04.760
<v Speaker 3>multiple areas of life at once. He makes his way

2119
01:45:04.880 --> 01:45:07.840
<v Speaker 3>toward a beautiful house in the distance, but his head

2120
01:45:07.920 --> 01:45:10.399
<v Speaker 3>is down. The wands are heavy and obstructing his view.

2121
01:45:10.720 --> 01:45:13.640
<v Speaker 3>He appears to trudge blindly forward, pushing himself to his

2122
01:45:13.720 --> 01:45:17.720
<v Speaker 3>physical limits. The blue color of the card represents mental clarity,

2123
01:45:17.920 --> 01:45:20.840
<v Speaker 3>indicating the man knows that he must complete this task,

2124
01:45:20.960 --> 01:45:23.680
<v Speaker 3>no matter how uncomfortable and stressful it feels in the moment.

2125
01:45:24.079 --> 01:45:26.279
<v Speaker 3>Peace of mind is just on the other side of

2126
01:45:26.359 --> 01:45:30.479
<v Speaker 3>this experience. The spiritual message behind it says, saying yes

2127
01:45:30.560 --> 01:45:33.000
<v Speaker 3>to everything and everyone has left you feeling burned out

2128
01:45:33.039 --> 01:45:36.880
<v Speaker 3>and over and overburdened. Creating boundaries and saying no can

2129
01:45:36.920 --> 01:45:39.399
<v Speaker 3>feel uncomfortable in the moment, but it is much more

2130
01:45:39.439 --> 01:45:41.880
<v Speaker 3>sustainable than taking on the weight of the world. You

2131
01:45:41.960 --> 01:45:44.840
<v Speaker 3>may be taking on incredible amounts of responsibility or creative

2132
01:45:44.880 --> 01:45:46.960
<v Speaker 3>projects in order to meet your personal goals.

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<v Speaker 5>That's great, dude, That's kind of how I was feeling

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01:45:49.760 --> 01:45:51.960
<v Speaker 5>this morning. Man. You know, we were kind of short

2135
01:45:52.000 --> 01:45:54.520
<v Speaker 5>staffed at work, and I just felt like everything was

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01:45:55.079 --> 01:45:56.960
<v Speaker 5>on me. If I didn't do it, it wasn't going

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01:45:57.039 --> 01:45:58.840
<v Speaker 5>to get done. And I was really stressing out, dude,

2138
01:45:58.840 --> 01:46:00.960
<v Speaker 5>and it really just made for a kind of a

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01:46:01.039 --> 01:46:03.840
<v Speaker 5>shitty day, you know. And so sometimes you just gotta,

2140
01:46:04.199 --> 01:46:07.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, stop people please, and you can't please everybody.

2141
01:46:07.159 --> 01:46:08.279
<v Speaker 5>You just can't. There's no way.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, i'll tell you. The optimistic interpretation of that card

2143
01:46:11.239 --> 01:46:14.359
<v Speaker 4>when I read that card is that you're almost You've

2144
01:46:14.399 --> 01:46:18.520
<v Speaker 4>been in the desert hauling around all of your magic

2145
01:46:18.680 --> 01:46:21.000
<v Speaker 4>and the shit you've picked up and the things you're

2146
01:46:21.399 --> 01:46:23.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, the the things you need to take with you,

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01:46:23.960 --> 01:46:25.920
<v Speaker 4>and you've been in the desert for thirty days and

2148
01:46:26.119 --> 01:46:30.880
<v Speaker 4>like you've almost reached civilization. You're almost back. That's the

2149
01:46:31.560 --> 01:46:33.399
<v Speaker 4>interpretation I like to give that card.

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01:46:33.520 --> 01:46:33.960
<v Speaker 5>That's great.

2151
01:46:34.000 --> 01:46:36.439
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's more optimistic way of looking at it doesn't.

2152
01:46:36.640 --> 01:46:39.079
<v Speaker 3>And that's the thing about every single card can be

2153
01:46:39.439 --> 01:46:44.079
<v Speaker 3>read in a million different ways, you know, and that's it.

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01:46:44.239 --> 01:46:46.239
<v Speaker 3>It kind of meets you where you are in that point.

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01:46:46.800 --> 01:46:49.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, like he was saying, this is how I look

2156
01:46:49.840 --> 01:46:53.000
<v Speaker 5>at this card. Now, yeah, you know it evolves.

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01:46:54.479 --> 01:46:56.560
<v Speaker 4>Well, now now I just use cards to kind of

2158
01:46:57.359 --> 01:47:00.359
<v Speaker 4>I guess, like channel what's on my mind. Like it's

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01:47:00.439 --> 01:47:02.239
<v Speaker 4>less about kind of telling a story through the card.

2160
01:47:02.479 --> 01:47:05.960
<v Speaker 4>It's more about having the card trigger a lesson that

2161
01:47:06.119 --> 01:47:08.159
<v Speaker 4>I already know about that I've already been through, or

2162
01:47:08.479 --> 01:47:09.840
<v Speaker 4>something I can help somebody.

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01:47:09.600 --> 01:47:11.840
<v Speaker 5>With, right, Yeah, right, perfect.

2164
01:47:12.079 --> 01:47:14.600
<v Speaker 3>I wonder if that's what's going on too sometimes, Like

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01:47:14.720 --> 01:47:16.960
<v Speaker 3>that's always in the back of my mind. Is my

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01:47:17.359 --> 01:47:21.840
<v Speaker 3>energy being manifested in card form every time I draw

2167
01:47:21.960 --> 01:47:25.199
<v Speaker 3>a Tarot card personally? Right? Like, is it just what'sever

2168
01:47:25.319 --> 01:47:27.760
<v Speaker 3>on my mind that's being tattooed in the frequency of

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01:47:27.840 --> 01:47:29.720
<v Speaker 3>a card in that moment you know?

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01:47:30.439 --> 01:47:31.600
<v Speaker 5>Or you know?

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01:47:32.119 --> 01:47:35.720
<v Speaker 3>And that's because you want to believe that you're getting

2172
01:47:35.720 --> 01:47:39.079
<v Speaker 3>a message from you know, a guide or something like that.

2173
01:47:39.399 --> 01:47:41.920
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know, I guess is it just as

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01:47:42.359 --> 01:47:44.520
<v Speaker 3>prevalent of a message if it's coming from your higher

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01:47:44.560 --> 01:47:46.039
<v Speaker 3>self as opposed to a guide anyway?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I guess, yeah, it doesn't matter, dude, because

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01:47:47.880 --> 01:47:49.680
<v Speaker 4>the truth is that if you're looking at a card, like,

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01:47:50.119 --> 01:47:53.560
<v Speaker 4>does that picture of the card physically exist in your mind?

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01:47:55.159 --> 01:47:59.760
<v Speaker 4>Like you know what I mean? Like, So, in my opinion,

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01:47:59.800 --> 01:48:02.520
<v Speaker 4>that's that's a lot of proof of that, like you're

2181
01:48:02.560 --> 01:48:08.079
<v Speaker 4>projecting it like you're it's you didn't you're creating that

2182
01:48:08.239 --> 01:48:09.680
<v Speaker 4>image it didn't already exist.

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01:48:10.760 --> 01:48:14.039
<v Speaker 5>Right. Oh yeah, that does make sense too.

2184
01:48:15.159 --> 01:48:17.239
<v Speaker 3>Super Market said, I put the salt from the Dead

2185
01:48:17.319 --> 01:48:19.880
<v Speaker 3>Sea in my shower for energy hygiene.

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01:48:20.439 --> 01:48:26.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's great. Interesting, you know, see sand and salt

2187
01:48:26.119 --> 01:48:27.960
<v Speaker 4>water is like the best way to ground yourself.

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01:48:28.039 --> 01:48:31.439
<v Speaker 3>Also interesting, I've been hearing a lot of people use

2189
01:48:31.520 --> 01:48:36.279
<v Speaker 3>the Celtic salt too. Yeah, so pretty powerful stuff.

2190
01:48:36.199 --> 01:48:38.039
<v Speaker 4>As long as it's not like table salt, because that's

2191
01:48:38.079 --> 01:48:42.560
<v Speaker 4>like super refined, not natural, like you know, made with

2192
01:48:42.840 --> 01:48:44.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, in a chemistry process.

2193
01:48:45.159 --> 01:48:45.960
<v Speaker 5>It's all bleached.

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01:48:46.680 --> 01:48:52.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Supermarket said, it's divination speaking with the gods. You're

2195
01:48:52.479 --> 01:48:55.079
<v Speaker 3>taking or you're talking to yourself because you are God.

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01:48:55.479 --> 01:49:00.640
<v Speaker 4>Yes, when you're speaking the truth, you are speaking divine information.

2197
01:49:02.039 --> 01:49:03.800
<v Speaker 5>You feel so much better too, right.

2198
01:49:04.960 --> 01:49:06.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. And I can't tell you how many times, you know,

2199
01:49:06.720 --> 01:49:10.079
<v Speaker 4>I used to think, wait, no, this isn't psychic. But

2200
01:49:10.239 --> 01:49:12.000
<v Speaker 4>what it was is like I would be relating it

2201
01:49:12.079 --> 01:49:13.600
<v Speaker 4>to something that happen to me, and then they would

2202
01:49:13.640 --> 01:49:16.439
<v Speaker 4>be like, oh my god, yes, and I was like, okay,

2203
01:49:17.640 --> 01:49:19.680
<v Speaker 4>so it does work this way. It's not just like

2204
01:49:20.079 --> 01:49:22.039
<v Speaker 4>that I have images and that the truth or whatever.

2205
01:49:22.119 --> 01:49:24.600
<v Speaker 4>It's like, I'm literally it's triggering a memory in me

2206
01:49:25.479 --> 01:49:27.199
<v Speaker 4>and now I'm sharing that with you, and now it

2207
01:49:27.279 --> 01:49:29.439
<v Speaker 4>resonates with you like yep.

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01:49:30.199 --> 01:49:32.560
<v Speaker 5>Oh man, yeah, because we're all one damn thing anyway.

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01:49:37.359 --> 01:49:39.359
<v Speaker 3>So all right, well, I think we're gonna wrap it

2210
01:49:39.439 --> 01:49:41.239
<v Speaker 3>up right there. We're gonna get over to the meditation

2211
01:49:41.640 --> 01:49:43.520
<v Speaker 3>and finish out the rest of the show. But for

2212
01:49:43.560 --> 01:49:45.800
<v Speaker 3>anybody who wants to be able to find you, Banksy,

2213
01:49:46.119 --> 01:49:47.800
<v Speaker 3>how would they go about doing?

2214
01:49:47.880 --> 01:49:47.920
<v Speaker 4>So?

2215
01:49:48.159 --> 01:49:49.960
<v Speaker 3>Your music, all your stuff.

2216
01:49:49.760 --> 01:49:59.920
<v Speaker 4>Man, Optimistic Banks, It's optimistic with the why Mystic Optimistic Banks. Yeah, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Spotify,

2217
01:50:00.079 --> 01:50:04.279
<v Speaker 4>i Itune or you know, Apple music everywhere and everywhere.

2218
01:50:04.920 --> 01:50:09.560
<v Speaker 4>And I also I'm doing a Mystic work full time now,

2219
01:50:09.680 --> 01:50:14.800
<v Speaker 4>providing one on one sessions, energy work, monthly mentorship, energy clearing,

2220
01:50:15.239 --> 01:50:19.479
<v Speaker 4>timeline activation, tarot reading, all that fun stuff. So if

2221
01:50:19.479 --> 01:50:22.399
<v Speaker 4>you go to my Instagram or TikTok, just click on

2222
01:50:22.479 --> 01:50:24.319
<v Speaker 4>my link in my bio and you get everything you

2223
01:50:24.439 --> 01:50:24.760
<v Speaker 4>need there.

2224
01:50:25.239 --> 01:50:28.560
<v Speaker 5>Oh well, dude, go check out Optimistics music if you

2225
01:50:28.600 --> 01:50:31.399
<v Speaker 5>want to listen to something that actually means something, you know,

2226
01:50:31.600 --> 01:50:34.279
<v Speaker 5>something on a deeper level, which we all crave, you know,

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01:50:34.520 --> 01:50:35.039
<v Speaker 5>go check.

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01:50:34.920 --> 01:50:39.640
<v Speaker 3>It out, dude, so good perfectly resonates and it's man,

2229
01:50:39.880 --> 01:50:42.199
<v Speaker 3>it's it's not poisonous like a lot of the other

2230
01:50:42.359 --> 01:50:44.159
<v Speaker 3>music that's out there. You know what I'm saying. It's

2231
01:50:44.199 --> 01:50:47.039
<v Speaker 3>the exact opposite. And you feel that just frequency wise,

2232
01:50:47.039 --> 01:50:49.000
<v Speaker 3>every time you listen to it, whether you're paying attention

2233
01:50:49.079 --> 01:50:51.399
<v Speaker 3>to the lyrics or not, it like it. It resonates

2234
01:50:51.439 --> 01:50:51.760
<v Speaker 3>either way.

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01:50:51.800 --> 01:50:52.319
<v Speaker 5>It's so good.

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01:50:54.399 --> 01:50:56.119
<v Speaker 4>Thank you. I put a lot of heart and soul

2237
01:50:56.199 --> 01:50:58.439
<v Speaker 4>and truth into a lot of vulnerability.

2238
01:50:59.000 --> 01:51:00.399
<v Speaker 5>It shows, he said.

2239
01:51:00.439 --> 01:51:06.439
<v Speaker 3>Optimistic Banks is Instagram is fire. Yeah, I love it, man,

2240
01:51:06.560 --> 01:51:06.800
<v Speaker 3>love it.

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01:51:07.760 --> 01:51:10.920
<v Speaker 4>Just today hit thirty three thousand followers on Instagram and

2242
01:51:11.359 --> 01:51:12.000
<v Speaker 4>thirty three.

2243
01:51:11.960 --> 01:51:12.760
<v Speaker 5>Is my numbers.

2244
01:51:13.199 --> 01:51:15.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, today has a very special day.

2245
01:51:16.159 --> 01:51:19.159
<v Speaker 5>Ship dude, good ship three three three three three Yeah.

2246
01:51:20.399 --> 01:51:21.079
<v Speaker 3>I just love it.

2247
01:51:21.199 --> 01:51:21.880
<v Speaker 5>Well, I love y'all.

2248
01:51:21.880 --> 01:51:23.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna take off then you all be very good

2249
01:51:25.079 --> 01:51:26.000
<v Speaker 4>you next time, guys.

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01:51:25.840 --> 01:51:26.600
<v Speaker 3>All right, we'll see you.

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01:51:26.760 --> 01:51:26.960
<v Speaker 5>Sure.

2252
01:51:27.039 --> 01:51:32.399
<v Speaker 3>Man, what a episode. What a character to be talking

2253
01:51:32.439 --> 01:51:33.199
<v Speaker 3>to Optimistic.

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01:51:33.880 --> 01:51:36.159
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's it's so awesome, you know, because uh we

2255
01:51:36.520 --> 01:51:39.159
<v Speaker 5>found here. I've seen him on Instagram and and a

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01:51:39.199 --> 01:51:41.920
<v Speaker 5>lot of his videos. Man, They're just so informative and

2257
01:51:42.079 --> 01:51:44.560
<v Speaker 5>just the energy he puts off. You know, like there's

2258
01:51:44.600 --> 01:51:46.880
<v Speaker 5>been days where, you know, maybe I'm having a rough

2259
01:51:46.960 --> 01:51:48.479
<v Speaker 5>day or whatever, and then one of his videos will

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01:51:48.520 --> 01:51:50.520
<v Speaker 5>pop up and I'm just like, I can't believe we

2261
01:51:50.680 --> 01:51:52.319
<v Speaker 5>were able to get him on our show at all,

2262
01:51:52.720 --> 01:51:54.079
<v Speaker 5>you know, and so I just felt like it was

2263
01:51:54.119 --> 01:51:55.119
<v Speaker 5>a privilege.

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01:51:55.239 --> 01:51:57.439
<v Speaker 3>Oh dude, just a stud And I feel like that

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01:51:57.680 --> 01:51:59.239
<v Speaker 3>with a lot of the people that we've had on

2266
01:51:59.359 --> 01:52:01.720
<v Speaker 3>the show, you know, whether it be him or Lord

2267
01:52:01.800 --> 01:52:06.039
<v Speaker 3>Byron or Ronnie Pontiac or you know, the list goes on,

2268
01:52:06.319 --> 01:52:09.239
<v Speaker 3>all of the amazing people that have you know, uh,

2269
01:52:10.199 --> 01:52:12.640
<v Speaker 3>the student, when student is ready, the teacher appears. In

2270
01:52:12.720 --> 01:52:16.760
<v Speaker 3>that sense, it's just really cool. So, uh yeah, we're

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01:52:16.760 --> 01:52:18.439
<v Speaker 3>gonna get over to that meditation. If you want to

2272
01:52:18.479 --> 01:52:20.279
<v Speaker 3>be a part of that meditation, the only place to

2273
01:52:20.319 --> 01:52:21.800
<v Speaker 3>be able to do that is over at patreon dot

2274
01:52:21.840 --> 01:52:24.159
<v Speaker 3>com slash Meta Mysteries. We don't put it on the podcast.

2275
01:52:24.199 --> 01:52:26.039
<v Speaker 3>We don't put it on YouTube because then there's gonna

2276
01:52:26.039 --> 01:52:28.439
<v Speaker 3>be ad interruption. Ain't nobody trying to be interrupted by

2277
01:52:28.479 --> 01:52:29.600
<v Speaker 3>an ad during a meditation.

2278
01:52:29.640 --> 01:52:30.359
<v Speaker 5>It's like the worst thing.

2279
01:52:31.319 --> 01:52:32.880
<v Speaker 3>So if you want to be able to join us

2280
01:52:32.920 --> 01:52:34.960
<v Speaker 3>on that or on the live shows, then it's patreon

2281
01:52:34.960 --> 01:52:38.640
<v Speaker 3>dot com slash Meta Mysteries. So yeah, dude, that was

2282
01:52:39.000 --> 01:52:42.319
<v Speaker 3>a fun episode and can't wait until next week whenever

2283
01:52:42.399 --> 01:52:44.359
<v Speaker 3>we go again. I'm sure we're gonna get some awesome

2284
01:52:44.399 --> 01:52:47.199
<v Speaker 3>guests for that one too, absolutely, or at least it's

2285
01:52:47.199 --> 01:52:49.840
<v Speaker 3>gonna be a great topic. Either way, it's always so

2286
01:52:49.960 --> 01:52:52.479
<v Speaker 3>much fun. Yeah, doing doing the live shows is like

2287
01:52:52.520 --> 01:52:55.399
<v Speaker 3>the most fun. So yeah, that being said, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get over to it. And uh, if you would leave

2289
01:52:58.720 --> 01:53:01.199
<v Speaker 3>a review, give us five stars. Whether you're listening to

2290
01:53:02.079 --> 01:53:04.279
<v Speaker 3>us on the Cult of Conspiracy podcast or the Meta

2291
01:53:04.319 --> 01:53:07.399
<v Speaker 3>Mysteries podcast, it really helps the algorithm in that way

2292
01:53:07.640 --> 01:53:10.239
<v Speaker 3>get pushed out to more people. If you want to

2293
01:53:11.159 --> 01:53:14.359
<v Speaker 3>help initiate your cousin, your friend, your co worker, your

2294
01:53:14.920 --> 01:53:17.720
<v Speaker 3>your mom, even, let's bring her in and you know,

2295
01:53:17.840 --> 01:53:21.920
<v Speaker 3>bring her into the conversation. Let's get weird, dude. But yeah,

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01:53:22.399 --> 01:53:24.399
<v Speaker 3>I think we're gonna get over the meditation now. And

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01:53:24.600 --> 01:53:27.479
<v Speaker 3>so with that being said, if optimistic Banks came here

2298
01:53:27.560 --> 01:53:30.600
<v Speaker 3>and he taught you anything, it's that you don't know

2299
01:53:30.840 --> 01:53:33.840
<v Speaker 3>what you don't know, So I don't just get weird.

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01:53:34.479 --> 01:53:35.840
<v Speaker 5>It stay weird.

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01:53:37.319 --> 01:53:47.199
<v Speaker 2>Inside your mind ordinary form because color soul stars line

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01:53:48.560 --> 01:53:54.000
<v Speaker 2>in the mental mysteries your fund All right, that was.

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01:53:54.000 --> 01:53:57.880
<v Speaker 5>A good one, yeah, man, that that seems like, uh,

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01:53:58.239 --> 01:54:00.680
<v Speaker 5>that is what you would hear if you were just

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01:54:00.880 --> 01:54:04.000
<v Speaker 5>able to all of a sudden be able to observe

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01:54:04.880 --> 01:54:07.239
<v Speaker 5>the mystery, you know what I mean. I feel like

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01:54:07.279 --> 01:54:09.199
<v Speaker 5>that's what I'm gonna start calling it. You know, that

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01:54:09.439 --> 01:54:12.680
<v Speaker 5>that unknown, that that thing that it seems like we're

2309
01:54:12.680 --> 01:54:15.840
<v Speaker 5>always searching for but can never never find because it's

2310
01:54:15.880 --> 01:54:17.800
<v Speaker 5>always just out of reach. You know.

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01:54:18.399 --> 01:54:21.439
<v Speaker 3>Oh dude, it's it's the dowel. You know, the dow

2312
01:54:21.520 --> 01:54:22.600
<v Speaker 3>that can be named is not the.

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<v Speaker 5>Dowel exactly, yeah, exactly. And if you think about it,

2314
01:54:26.960 --> 01:54:30.199
<v Speaker 5>whenever you know you are looking into something, something you

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01:54:30.279 --> 01:54:33.199
<v Speaker 5>don't quite understand, it's it seems to be mysterious, and

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01:54:33.239 --> 01:54:37.640
<v Speaker 5>then you finally land on something that seems to really

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01:54:37.840 --> 01:54:40.399
<v Speaker 5>kind of hold water and it really makes sense and

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01:54:40.520 --> 01:54:45.920
<v Speaker 5>at least it's something that you can accept as your

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01:54:46.119 --> 01:54:49.359
<v Speaker 5>chosen subjective reality. At that point, it's no longer part

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01:54:49.399 --> 01:54:52.039
<v Speaker 5>of the mystery because now you understand it, you know,

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01:54:52.199 --> 01:54:55.840
<v Speaker 5>at least to your experience, Rightah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's you know, what's funny is is that in

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01:54:59.800 --> 01:55:04.119
<v Speaker 3>that meditation, I was like, you know it. Sometimes it

2324
01:55:04.199 --> 01:55:06.079
<v Speaker 3>takes me a little bit longer. Sometimes I can get

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01:55:06.119 --> 01:55:08.960
<v Speaker 3>there really quick. At first, I actually thought that I

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01:55:09.159 --> 01:55:13.000
<v Speaker 3>was in meditation, like almost immediately, right. But then after

2327
01:55:13.079 --> 01:55:16.439
<v Speaker 3>a while, it was like another almost like a literal

2328
01:55:16.800 --> 01:55:20.199
<v Speaker 3>It felt like a literal wave washed over me, and

2329
01:55:20.720 --> 01:55:22.960
<v Speaker 3>it felt like I got pushed even deeper into it.

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01:55:23.399 --> 01:55:27.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh right, And and then I just started For some reason,

2331
01:55:27.359 --> 01:55:30.439
<v Speaker 3>I always think about like the Garden of Eden. I

2332
01:55:30.520 --> 01:55:34.600
<v Speaker 3>have no idea why, right, but you know, ever since Supermarke,

2333
01:55:34.600 --> 01:55:37.279
<v Speaker 3>he brought up the Archons and the Demiurge, and like that,

2334
01:55:37.399 --> 01:55:40.279
<v Speaker 3>I'd just been so immersed in that whole world and

2335
01:55:40.319 --> 01:55:42.960
<v Speaker 3>trying to understand the you know, the that whole story

2336
01:55:43.520 --> 01:55:47.680
<v Speaker 3>and and if you remember the Demiurge, whenever he was

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01:55:47.800 --> 01:55:49.840
<v Speaker 3>like I am God, and then there was another voice

2338
01:55:49.880 --> 01:55:52.520
<v Speaker 3>that whispered over him and basically just said no, you're

2339
01:55:52.560 --> 01:55:56.520
<v Speaker 3>not or something like that, right, yeah, And it made

2340
01:55:56.560 --> 01:56:00.239
<v Speaker 3>me think, like, you know, the people that go deep

2341
01:56:00.279 --> 01:56:03.840
<v Speaker 3>into meditation, they think that their thought and their voice

2342
01:56:03.920 --> 01:56:07.239
<v Speaker 3>in their head is would be like the God.

2343
01:56:07.600 --> 01:56:07.760
<v Speaker 4>Right.

2344
01:56:08.239 --> 01:56:10.960
<v Speaker 3>And then I could imagine that like somebody getting a

2345
01:56:11.039 --> 01:56:14.640
<v Speaker 3>little cocky that way and saying, oh, well, this place,

2346
01:56:14.720 --> 01:56:16.880
<v Speaker 3>this treehouse, place that I get to, this has to

2347
01:56:16.960 --> 01:56:18.920
<v Speaker 3>be the voice of God. And then there's like another

2348
01:56:19.039 --> 01:56:21.800
<v Speaker 3>subtle little voice that says, but there's still something more

2349
01:56:21.880 --> 01:56:25.079
<v Speaker 3>over you in that sense, right, And that's kind of

2350
01:56:25.119 --> 01:56:27.159
<v Speaker 3>how I look at it, like that's I don't know,

2351
01:56:27.239 --> 01:56:29.279
<v Speaker 3>that's what was going on in my mind in that point.

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01:56:29.359 --> 01:56:31.640
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was pretty interesting. And that's how I

2353
01:56:31.680 --> 01:56:33.600
<v Speaker 3>feel about it. Like a lot of this spiritual stuff

2354
01:56:34.079 --> 01:56:37.119
<v Speaker 3>is that even when you think you know that you're

2355
01:56:37.199 --> 01:56:41.880
<v Speaker 3>absolutely right, there's still something extra that is there that's

2356
01:56:41.880 --> 01:56:45.760
<v Speaker 3>saying there's more and you don't have it all figured

2357
01:56:45.760 --> 01:56:46.159
<v Speaker 3>out yet.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, exactly. I feel like that's going to be an

2359
01:56:49.479 --> 01:56:53.600
<v Speaker 5>ongoing struggle. You know, if we are in this reality

2360
01:56:53.720 --> 01:56:57.439
<v Speaker 5>of duality, you know, there's always going to be the tugging,

2361
01:56:57.760 --> 01:57:00.600
<v Speaker 5>you know, like Optimistic was speaking on as far as

2362
01:57:00.680 --> 01:57:03.560
<v Speaker 5>you know, the push and pull back and forth type

2363
01:57:03.600 --> 01:57:05.880
<v Speaker 5>of thing, you know. And I don't know, man, I

2364
01:57:06.359 --> 01:57:08.760
<v Speaker 5>find it very interesting. The thing that I that I've

2365
01:57:08.840 --> 01:57:12.159
<v Speaker 5>been really looking into or just really pondering, is, you know,

2366
01:57:12.359 --> 01:57:18.439
<v Speaker 5>how people, why is it that we tend to believe

2367
01:57:18.720 --> 01:57:22.960
<v Speaker 5>or or suspect rather you know, that there's something above

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01:57:23.079 --> 01:57:26.159
<v Speaker 5>us at all. You know, like I just get amazed

2369
01:57:26.199 --> 01:57:30.119
<v Speaker 5>at the fact that just on a physical aspect, you know,

2370
01:57:30.279 --> 01:57:32.880
<v Speaker 5>that atoms and things were put together in such a

2371
01:57:32.960 --> 01:57:36.279
<v Speaker 5>way from the universe, you know, being what it is,

2372
01:57:36.640 --> 01:57:40.359
<v Speaker 5>and now here we are contemplating it, you know, like

2373
01:57:40.479 --> 01:57:44.840
<v Speaker 5>the universe contemplating back to itself like that right there

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01:57:44.920 --> 01:57:45.680
<v Speaker 5>just strips me out.

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01:57:45.920 --> 01:57:48.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, well yeah, it's just like Bank said,

2376
01:57:48.640 --> 01:57:52.960
<v Speaker 3>and the whole idea around you know, Platonism in general

2377
01:57:53.119 --> 01:57:56.680
<v Speaker 3>is just contemplation and just contemplating on the next higher

2378
01:57:56.800 --> 01:57:59.640
<v Speaker 3>up level of you know, is that where I came from?

2379
01:57:59.800 --> 01:58:03.079
<v Speaker 5>And if I'm everything, then why is there's this extra shit?

2380
01:58:03.399 --> 01:58:05.680
<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying. Yeah, And it's funny you

2381
01:58:05.800 --> 01:58:08.079
<v Speaker 5>say that that the next level because in that meditation,

2382
01:58:08.199 --> 01:58:11.479
<v Speaker 5>I actually felt like this weird like sensation of like

2383
01:58:11.720 --> 01:58:14.039
<v Speaker 5>could you know, almost like I just went up like

2384
01:58:14.479 --> 01:58:17.159
<v Speaker 5>a flight of steps or something like that was super strange.

2385
01:58:17.600 --> 01:58:20.439
<v Speaker 3>But it just reminds me of like, you know, even

2386
01:58:20.880 --> 01:58:23.520
<v Speaker 3>the you know, let's say that there is a creator,

2387
01:58:23.760 --> 01:58:26.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, for that whole conversation, and I'm not one

2388
01:58:26.399 --> 01:58:29.199
<v Speaker 3>hundred percent sure. Maybe there's a creator. Maybe everything always

2389
01:58:29.279 --> 01:58:31.399
<v Speaker 3>existed all the time and there never was a beginning.

2390
01:58:31.520 --> 01:58:36.079
<v Speaker 3>I can honestly accept both. And but either way, like,

2391
01:58:36.520 --> 01:58:40.880
<v Speaker 3>let's say that there was one thing at the very beginning, right,

2392
01:58:41.319 --> 01:58:44.039
<v Speaker 3>and you know, call it the Big Bang, and it

2393
01:58:44.199 --> 01:58:46.760
<v Speaker 3>was the tiny atom that had so much energy that

2394
01:58:46.880 --> 01:58:50.560
<v Speaker 3>it just had to explode whatever. Right, if that's what

2395
01:58:50.720 --> 01:58:54.640
<v Speaker 3>it was, then you could imagine that, you know, like if,

2396
01:58:55.279 --> 01:58:57.319
<v Speaker 3>for a lack of a better term, we'll call it

2397
01:58:57.960 --> 01:58:59.439
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to say that, let's just call it

2398
01:58:59.479 --> 01:59:01.680
<v Speaker 3>the Source, right, And the Source was trying to figure

2399
01:59:01.720 --> 01:59:03.720
<v Speaker 3>out where the hell it came from, what its purpose is,

2400
01:59:03.880 --> 01:59:06.520
<v Speaker 3>trying to identify even what it is. It doesn't even

2401
01:59:06.560 --> 01:59:10.039
<v Speaker 3>know what the fuck it is, right, and so it

2402
01:59:10.159 --> 01:59:13.800
<v Speaker 3>explodes out into everything to try and really understand itself

2403
01:59:13.800 --> 01:59:16.720
<v Speaker 3>a little bit more from all these billions and trillions

2404
01:59:16.760 --> 01:59:21.199
<v Speaker 3>of different perspectives and everything, and just everybody is always

2405
01:59:21.199 --> 01:59:23.279
<v Speaker 3>staring in amazement about why am I here and what

2406
01:59:23.399 --> 01:59:26.119
<v Speaker 3>am I doing? And obviously that would be the same

2407
01:59:26.239 --> 01:59:30.279
<v Speaker 3>questions that even the Source would have, right, like, yeah,

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01:59:31.159 --> 01:59:32.399
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I think it's fun.

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01:59:33.000 --> 01:59:33.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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01:59:33.760 --> 01:59:36.560
<v Speaker 5>I was contemplating also, you know, like thinking about if

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01:59:36.600 --> 01:59:40.760
<v Speaker 5>there is an infinite amount of versions of myself, you know.

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01:59:40.880 --> 01:59:44.439
<v Speaker 5>Then definitely there's a version of myself that is super

2413
01:59:44.600 --> 01:59:46.960
<v Speaker 5>hardcore religious, you know. And then I was trying to

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01:59:47.039 --> 01:59:50.439
<v Speaker 5>get into that mind, you know, and understanding like, oh, well,

2415
01:59:50.439 --> 01:59:52.439
<v Speaker 5>then this is how I would think, And of course

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01:59:52.520 --> 01:59:54.760
<v Speaker 5>I would try to get other people to believe what

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01:59:54.840 --> 01:59:56.840
<v Speaker 5>I believe because it's true, you know. And then I

2418
01:59:56.880 --> 02:00:00.119
<v Speaker 5>start to think about objective truth and subjective truth, and

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02:00:00.880 --> 02:00:05.199
<v Speaker 5>you know, maybe there's an an objective truth, but we'll

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02:00:05.319 --> 02:00:09.319
<v Speaker 5>never know it because we're always in a subjective uh

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02:00:09.760 --> 02:00:12.600
<v Speaker 5>you know what I'm saying understanding of things. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and that's the beauty around a lot of the

2423
02:00:15.199 --> 02:00:18.119
<v Speaker 3>different things that we talk about, because you could look

2424
02:00:18.359 --> 02:00:20.439
<v Speaker 3>at any one of the things that we talk about

2425
02:00:20.479 --> 02:00:24.039
<v Speaker 3>and say, that's the truth, right. But I mean, I

2426
02:00:24.119 --> 02:00:26.279
<v Speaker 3>feel like by pointing to what the truth is, you're

2427
02:00:26.279 --> 02:00:29.399
<v Speaker 3>only discrediting everything that it everything else that it could

2428
02:00:29.479 --> 02:00:31.640
<v Speaker 3>be right, you know, exactly, because.

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<v Speaker 5>Now it's no longer the mystery, you know what I mean,

2430
02:00:34.600 --> 02:00:34.920
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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02:00:35.520 --> 02:00:38.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, so, And and that's the crazy thing is, like,

2432
02:00:39.119 --> 02:00:41.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, they all kind of work, and they're just

2433
02:00:42.159 --> 02:00:47.199
<v Speaker 3>different ways of being able to look at the unidentifiable.

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02:00:46.720 --> 02:00:49.159
<v Speaker 5>Right, And that's why I feel like there's no point,

2435
02:00:49.359 --> 02:00:52.279
<v Speaker 5>you know, lately, I've been seeing a lot of debates,

2436
02:00:52.399 --> 02:00:54.039
<v Speaker 5>and I think it's just because it's what I've been

2437
02:00:54.079 --> 02:00:56.359
<v Speaker 5>looking into and just kind of giving into the minds

2438
02:00:56.399 --> 02:00:59.520
<v Speaker 5>of you know, people that think or believe something different

2439
02:00:59.560 --> 02:01:03.439
<v Speaker 5>than myself, and you know, I don't there's no point

2440
02:01:03.560 --> 02:01:06.680
<v Speaker 5>in trying to argue with somebody at least coming to

2441
02:01:06.800 --> 02:01:09.039
<v Speaker 5>the understanding that we've come to, you know, as of

2442
02:01:09.159 --> 02:01:12.760
<v Speaker 5>right now, is that everybody's right. What you believe in

2443
02:01:12.960 --> 02:01:15.960
<v Speaker 5>is is good for you and good for you, you know,

2444
02:01:16.319 --> 02:01:19.159
<v Speaker 5>and what I believe and what I think it could

2445
02:01:19.239 --> 02:01:20.920
<v Speaker 5>be it works for me and so good for me.

2446
02:01:21.520 --> 02:01:24.439
<v Speaker 3>I've come to the understanding that there's a better way

2447
02:01:24.520 --> 02:01:28.079
<v Speaker 3>to work around that. So and you know, especially you know,

2448
02:01:28.560 --> 02:01:30.640
<v Speaker 3>talking with Jacob every day for the cult, it's like,

2449
02:01:31.279 --> 02:01:34.520
<v Speaker 3>instead of declaring what something is and what something is

2450
02:01:34.600 --> 02:01:36.680
<v Speaker 3>in and saying that what you believe is wrong or

2451
02:01:36.760 --> 02:01:39.680
<v Speaker 3>what you believe is right or whatever, instead I have

2452
02:01:39.800 --> 02:01:43.439
<v Speaker 3>found myself just asking more questions to not only not

2453
02:01:43.600 --> 02:01:46.279
<v Speaker 3>only out of my own curiosity, but to make other

2454
02:01:46.359 --> 02:01:48.920
<v Speaker 3>people think a little bit more deeply about their own beliefs.

2455
02:01:49.239 --> 02:01:52.119
<v Speaker 3>So instead of making a statement, framing it as a

2456
02:01:52.239 --> 02:01:54.479
<v Speaker 3>question to make them go a little bit deeper into it.

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02:01:54.720 --> 02:01:57.199
<v Speaker 5>Mm hmmm yeah. Thus, I mean then you have a

2458
02:01:57.239 --> 02:02:01.079
<v Speaker 5>better understanding as well, you know, about what somebody else believes.

2459
02:02:01.119 --> 02:02:03.279
<v Speaker 5>And I don't know, man, I think that's the way

2460
02:02:03.319 --> 02:02:04.760
<v Speaker 5>it's supposed to be. You know.

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02:02:05.399 --> 02:02:07.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would say that it's always better to be

2462
02:02:07.079 --> 02:02:09.960
<v Speaker 3>a little just to be more inquisitive than it is

2463
02:02:10.119 --> 02:02:14.439
<v Speaker 3>to be firm and and trying to say that, like

2464
02:02:14.560 --> 02:02:17.520
<v Speaker 3>what I say is absolutely right, Like nobody likes that

2465
02:02:17.640 --> 02:02:20.920
<v Speaker 3>kind of person across all aspects. It's like, you know,

2466
02:02:21.319 --> 02:02:23.600
<v Speaker 3>a Cowboys fan can sit here and say the Cowboys

2467
02:02:23.640 --> 02:02:26.199
<v Speaker 3>are the greatest NFL team to ever exist. I'm going

2468
02:02:26.279 --> 02:02:29.680
<v Speaker 3>to disagree with that, you know, like just hand over fist.

2469
02:02:29.720 --> 02:02:33.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to disagree with that every time exactly. So yeah,

2470
02:02:34.039 --> 02:02:37.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean there's always ways. But instead of saying, no,

2471
02:02:38.359 --> 02:02:41.680
<v Speaker 3>the Cowboys suck, which they do. But instead of saying

2472
02:02:41.760 --> 02:02:44.479
<v Speaker 3>that no, they suck, be like can you point to

2473
02:02:44.720 --> 02:02:46.640
<v Speaker 3>like why are they the best of all time? And

2474
02:02:47.079 --> 02:02:48.479
<v Speaker 3>also if they're the best of all time, how come

2475
02:02:48.520 --> 02:02:51.000
<v Speaker 3>they haven't wont a playoff game? And like in my lifetime,

2476
02:02:51.119 --> 02:02:53.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm just curious, like, you know, just say

2477
02:02:53.479 --> 02:02:55.079
<v Speaker 3>frame it in that kind of sense and.

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02:02:55.119 --> 02:02:57.760
<v Speaker 5>That would be an objective truth. You know, everyone can

2479
02:02:57.800 --> 02:03:01.720
<v Speaker 5>agree on that, right, right. So I think they did

2480
02:03:01.760 --> 02:03:03.359
<v Speaker 5>win one playoff game in my life, I don't know.

2481
02:03:03.560 --> 02:03:08.279
<v Speaker 3>Not very many, but anyway, so yeah, I was just

2482
02:03:08.399 --> 02:03:10.800
<v Speaker 3>looking at the calendar and I realized that we do

2483
02:03:11.039 --> 02:03:14.079
<v Speaker 3>already have a guest for next next Wonder Wisday, and

2484
02:03:14.199 --> 02:03:15.399
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be a good one.

2485
02:03:15.479 --> 02:03:15.640
<v Speaker 5>Dude.

2486
02:03:15.680 --> 02:03:17.680
<v Speaker 3>It's a brand new guest we haven't had on before.

2487
02:03:19.039 --> 02:03:20.680
<v Speaker 3>And if you want to go check her out, she's

2488
02:03:20.720 --> 02:03:23.079
<v Speaker 3>on TikTok. I found her on TikTok. I actually find

2489
02:03:23.159 --> 02:03:24.920
<v Speaker 3>most of the people on TikTok, Like most of the

2490
02:03:24.960 --> 02:03:27.279
<v Speaker 3>people we get on here are either on TikTok or Instagram,

2491
02:03:27.840 --> 02:03:31.680
<v Speaker 3>just because I'm always I always got that, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always searching for the next guest or the next

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<v Speaker 3>show idea, or you know, trying to find a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of influence from all the different reaches. And so

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<v Speaker 3>this person, her name is never more Aries, and she's

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<v Speaker 3>a witch and she dude, I'm telling you, she knows

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<v Speaker 3>her shit. You like you can ask you'll be able

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<v Speaker 3>to ask her anything like one of those kind of witches.

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<v Speaker 3>And have we had a witch on the show, like

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<v Speaker 3>an actual knowledgeable witch. I'm trying to think like we've

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<v Speaker 3>had our wizards and our magician of course, yeah, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but a witch witch, I don't think so, dude.

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<v Speaker 5>I think we were supposed to at one point and

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know what. I don't know what happened with that,

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<v Speaker 5>but yeah, I think this will be our first.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, dude, go check it out if you have TikTok.

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<v Speaker 3>Her name is never more Areas, very knowledgeable, and you

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<v Speaker 3>can just tell she lives that life, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Very intentional, very witchy. It's like Halloween every day,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>So I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, we're gonna do that, brit said. The work

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<v Speaker 3>van that my father in law bought today, it just

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<v Speaker 3>so happened to have thirty three thousand, three hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>thirty three miles on it.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh nice, heang A strong man is a strong fan.

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<v Speaker 5>And my my car actually just went over two hundred

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<v Speaker 5>thousand and just the other day I took a picture

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<v Speaker 5>of it and it was two hundred thousand and fifty five.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh that's kind of cool. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Hey, Dudef, you can get two hundred thosand miles.

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<v Speaker 4>In your car.

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<v Speaker 5>You're doing something good. Yeah, man.

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<v Speaker 3>So all right, well, I guess we'll wrap it up

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<v Speaker 3>right there, and we will. We have some amazing shows

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<v Speaker 3>coming up in the future. As I said that, we

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<v Speaker 3>have the never More Aries. Actually the next is it

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<v Speaker 3>the next episode, one of the next episodes that we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have, not that I don't think it's the next one,

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<v Speaker 3>but we're also getting Todd Cave back on the show

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<v Speaker 3>here soon. We have never More Aries, we have and

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<v Speaker 3>then not this. So the next one is the Witch,

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<v Speaker 3>but the one after that is going to be the

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<v Speaker 3>guy that gets his crew together, goes out and meditates

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<v Speaker 3>in the desert and believes that he's talking to the

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<v Speaker 3>Tall Whites. He's going to be coming on for the

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<v Speaker 3>for the live show. So I'm just trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>like a bunch of awesome individuals to come on and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, kind of shed the different perspectives. The last

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<v Speaker 3>thing we want to do is just turn this into

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<v Speaker 3>some kind of echo chamber, which I believe that it's

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<v Speaker 3>important to grasp all of them. You know, we've had

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Christians on the show. We've had Muslims on

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<v Speaker 3>the show. We've had magicians and wizards and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like all over the place, it's and and occultists and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, spiritual people like optimistic and and and just

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<v Speaker 3>trying to find whatever that underlying film of everything is.

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<v Speaker 5>In that sense, man, I'm excited. I'm excited for things

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<v Speaker 5>to come, man. And and that guess about the aliens, dude,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know what it is, man, but I've been

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<v Speaker 5>getting back into that mindset. I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 5>everybody or what, but uh, yeah, it's definitely coming back around.

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<v Speaker 5>It has to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So all right, everybody, we will We will see

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<v Speaker 3>y'all next Wednesday, and we love you, and we'll.

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<v Speaker 5>See you on the flip side by.

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<v Speaker 1>Voices, drift on winds unting where it's like spells that

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<v Speaker 1>can't be made. Close your eyes and feel the sound

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<v Speaker 1>journey where no bounds are found.

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<v Speaker 2>Beside your mind, leave the ordinary far behind, the colors

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<v Speaker 2>swell and stars alive in the mental mysteries, you'll find
