WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:04.000 You're listen Saints KFI AM six forty the Bill handles 2 00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:08.679 show on demand on the iheartradiop and this is KFI 3 00:00:08.880 --> 00:00:14.960 AM six forty Bill Handle here Taco Tuesday, August twenty seven, 4 00:00:15.880 --> 00:00:19.640 and it is as always at eight o'clock with Rich. 5 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:24.399 It is time for Tech Tuesday. Rich good morning, Hey, 6 00:00:24.399 --> 00:00:25.920 good morning you Bill, good morning. 7 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:30.079 Okay, before we get started, I have to tell everybody 8 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:33.920 that Rich has heard every Saturday eleven am to two pm. 9 00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:38.320 He's host of Rich on Tech on KFI. He's also 10 00:00:38.679 --> 00:00:42.600 you can follow him on Instagram at rich on Tech website, 11 00:00:42.759 --> 00:00:47.719 Richontech dot TV. And I have my contract in front 12 00:00:47.719 --> 00:00:48.799 of me. Let me see you anything. 13 00:00:49.359 --> 00:00:50.280 Yep, I did it all. 14 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:52.159 Yay, yay. 15 00:00:53.119 --> 00:00:57.200 You great negotiator with you you handle has to say 16 00:00:57.200 --> 00:01:00.200 this stuff all right, Lots stuff going on and I 17 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:01.039 want to share it with you. 18 00:01:01.799 --> 00:01:03.920 First of all, we've. 19 00:01:03.679 --> 00:01:08.920 Got the Apple iPhone event that's set for September ninth, 20 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:12.959 and they do their own thing always, and the anticipation 21 00:01:13.280 --> 00:01:17.959 is always pretty enormous, or maybe not anymore, because do 22 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:19.920 you expect anything new? 23 00:01:20.359 --> 00:01:23.680 Is oras? It's all incremental that has been for the 24 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:24.719 last few years. 25 00:01:25.079 --> 00:01:27.879 Well, I think it's been incremental, but this season there 26 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:32.400 actually is a renewed interest in smartphones because of AI, 27 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:36.879 and so we have seen due to upgrades that Samsung 28 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:40.840 has done extremely well with their new phones Pixel It's 29 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:43.680 too early to tell, but the reviews are excellent, including 30 00:01:43.719 --> 00:01:48.040 mine of the Pixel nine. And now Apple they're doing 31 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:51.319 something unique with their AI. They are only making it 32 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:54.280 available on the iPhone fifteen Pro models and up So 33 00:01:54.319 --> 00:01:56.680 what that means is that a lot of people that 34 00:01:56.719 --> 00:01:58.879 are going to start seeing everyone talking about the AI 35 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:01.239 features if they have an old phone, they are not 36 00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:03.480 able to access those, so they're going to want to 37 00:02:03.560 --> 00:02:06.719 upgrade to the iPhone sixteen model to get that. And 38 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:09.719 Apple is I think the best positioned both from a 39 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:15.080 loyalty standpoint and a fomo standpoint where people are going 40 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:17.000 to want to upgrade this year. So it is exciting 41 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:18.039 from those aspects. 42 00:02:18.199 --> 00:02:21.159 You know, I love Apple and their business model, and 43 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:24.719 that is they'll come out with a new model had 44 00:02:24.879 --> 00:02:28.719 whatever feature, and the moment you buy it, it becomes 45 00:02:28.759 --> 00:02:32.520 obsolete when the new one comes out a year from 46 00:02:32.560 --> 00:02:35.319 now with new features. And for example, the charging cord, 47 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:38.919 you have to use theirs and it what they get 48 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:43.520 away with is just astounding. Now do you remember when 49 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:46.319 Apple came out with the iPhone? I mean, that was 50 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:50.759 that was extraordinarily a game changer across the world. 51 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:52.840 Has there been anything like that since? 52 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:54.719 Well? 53 00:02:54.800 --> 00:02:56.759 I think, I you know, look, I think, and I 54 00:02:56.840 --> 00:02:59.800 have to take a little bit of you know, I 55 00:02:59.840 --> 00:03:01.919 take a little issue with the saying that the phone 56 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:04.479 is obsolete, because that's really not true anymore. I mean, 57 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:07.879 you're talking where when this when this new iPhone comes out, 58 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:10.000 iOS eighteen is also going to come out, and that's 59 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:11.439 the new software for the iPhones. 60 00:03:11.439 --> 00:03:12.800 Okay, they are going. 61 00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:15.840 To support all the way back to iPhone ten R, 62 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:22.639 which was launched in twenty eighteen. So you know, you're talking, 63 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:25.919 that's a pretty decent span for a phone. Let's let 64 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:27.759 me let me make sure my math is right on that. 65 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:30.719 Let's see yeah, September twelfth, twenty eighteen. 66 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:34.360 All right, let me rephrase that, because you're right, not obsolete, 67 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:37.800 because people do have older phones that still work. 68 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:41.159 Older phones mean being two months old, three months old. 69 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:45.400 The second you buy the phone, they already have in 70 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:49.879 mind the upgrade phone next year or two years from now. 71 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:51.759 Is that legitimate to say? 72 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:54.000 Okay, yes, and I here here's what I think. 73 00:03:54.000 --> 00:03:54.840 Here's how I'll. 74 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:56.960 Frame it, Bill, and I think you're onto something. I 75 00:03:56.960 --> 00:04:01.199 think Apple is amazing at mark marketing to you, the 76 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:04.199 person who just bought a brand new phone, why you 77 00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:06.599 need a new one? I think that's really what it 78 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:09.800 comes down to is even though your phone is perfectly fine, 79 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:12.639 and like I'm saying, the phone from twenty eighteen is 80 00:04:12.639 --> 00:04:15.400 still going to be supported with software updates this year, 81 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:19.240 you still want a new phone because of that idea 82 00:04:19.319 --> 00:04:22.000 that there's something that this new phone does that yours doesn't. 83 00:04:22.120 --> 00:04:24.600 Now is it going to do Is it going to 84 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:28.279 be faster? Absolutely? Is the camera going to be better? Absolutely? 85 00:04:28.600 --> 00:04:30.920 Do ninety nine point nine percent of people have a 86 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:33.199 phone in their pocket that works just fine for calls 87 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:36.639 and texting. Probably, But you know, there is this idea 88 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:41.160 that you see this this unwavering marketing everywhere from Apple, 89 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:44.920 and it just goes to drive home that message that 90 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:47.639 you need a new phone every single year when the 91 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:49.720 new one comes out, that's I will give you that. 92 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:53.319 Are they as profitable as they have been in the past. 93 00:04:54.360 --> 00:04:57.040 I think the iPhone sales have been slipping just a 94 00:04:57.079 --> 00:05:01.680 little bit, and Apple is realizing that they can't bet 95 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:05.720 their entire future on the iPhone because while it's still 96 00:05:05.720 --> 00:05:08.839 a very good thing for them, their services, which is 97 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:12.800 the money people pay to store things in iCloud and 98 00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:16.160 all that other stuff that happens there, that is the 99 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:18.920 growth area for Apple, which is just completely wild. 100 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:21.480 They call it. They call it services. 101 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:22.839 Yeah, of course they do. 102 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:29.360 In my world, the only person I know that uses 103 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:32.680 Android one person of all the people I know is 104 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:37.360 my daughter, one of my daughters. Everybody else, everybody else 105 00:05:37.399 --> 00:05:42.560 I know uses iPhones, and based on my experience, I 106 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:46.120 would think that iPhones just kick the crap out of 107 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:46.879 everybody else. 108 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:49.399 But I guess market wise maybe not. 109 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:52.199 Well in the US. I mean, it depends where you're 110 00:05:52.240 --> 00:05:57.040 looking worldwide. You know, Android obviously has a larger market share. 111 00:05:57.279 --> 00:06:00.199 Here in Los Angeles, it seems like the market share 112 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:03.120 is huge for Apple, and that of course has to 113 00:06:03.160 --> 00:06:06.360 do with the entertainment industry and creative professionals. They really 114 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:10.680 gravitate towards the iPhone, and just in my experience, I 115 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:13.120 will tell you when I look around, yeah, i'd say 116 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:16.000 that eighty percent of the phones I see our iPhone. 117 00:06:16.319 --> 00:06:18.560 And yes, there are some Androids out there, but a 118 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:22.160 lot of that is iPhone has had a consistent message 119 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:25.439 for many years, and they also control the phone from 120 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:29.519 the start to finish, the software, the hardware, every aspect 121 00:06:29.560 --> 00:06:33.279 of it. The marketing and the carriers are largely hands off, 122 00:06:33.319 --> 00:06:36.639 and so is third party stuff. With Android, it's very different. 123 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:38.600 You can pick a different pair of headphones, you can 124 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:41.279 pick a different phone, you can pick a different software. 125 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:43.560 It's much more customizable. 126 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:46.759 And so people that are, you know, gravitate towards their 127 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:47.600 kind of running their. 128 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:49.439 Own way have always liked Android. 129 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:52.959 But I see it I've coming together a little bit 130 00:06:52.959 --> 00:06:56.120 more now where people I think, especially with iOS eighteen 131 00:06:56.240 --> 00:06:59.279 and the messaging situation getting cleaned up, I think people 132 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:01.319 are going to feel a lot more secure in having 133 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:03.920 an Android because they can message with an iPhone and 134 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:04.879 it's going to be just fine. 135 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:09.399 Pavel d'uov one of the most interesting guys out there, 136 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:12.759 not that tech people aren't interesting, but he sort of 137 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:13.920 takes it to a new level. 138 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:17.839 And he founded Telegram. 139 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:21.879 The app, and he was just arrested, and so let's 140 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:24.120 talk about that, because what a story that is. 141 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:27.920 Yeah, it's pretty wild. I mean I use Telegram on 142 00:07:27.959 --> 00:07:30.000 a daily basis. I know a lot of tech folks 143 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:32.560 that use Telegram. It's you know, it's kind of an 144 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:38.720 alternative to Facebook, Messenger or Signal or WhatsApp, but it's big. 145 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:42.240 It's big in various countries across the world. And one 146 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:45.199 of the things people like about it is that it 147 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:49.519 is easy to use, it's free, and it works across borders. 148 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:54.759 But this CEO of Telegram, Pavel Durov, this is a 149 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:59.439 Russian born guy. He was arrested in France and basically 150 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:03.319 the French authorities are saying that things happen on Telegram 151 00:08:03.839 --> 00:08:07.480 and Telegram does nothing to stop it. There's no moderation whatsoever. 152 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:11.279 So we're talking money laundering, we're talking potential violations of 153 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:20.040 encryption and cryptography laws, gang activity, criminal organization, pornography, narcotics, 154 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:22.720 pretty much anything that people might want to do on 155 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:26.600 a platform that's unrestricted. They say this happens on Telegram. 156 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:29.879 Now that's not to say that a lot of good 157 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:32.919 stuff doesn't happen there. But the problem is they want 158 00:08:32.960 --> 00:08:36.240 this moderated, and Telegram says no, no, no free speech, and 159 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:39.039 we can't moderate this because we're not a social media platform. 160 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:42.320 We are a messaging platform. And tell you that's where 161 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:42.759 we stand. 162 00:08:42.960 --> 00:08:46.679 What is it now? Describe in detail what a messaging platform. 163 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:50.399 Is, Well, it's like I message. So imagine if you know, 164 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:54.759 an Apple actually you know, came under fire for wanting 165 00:08:54.799 --> 00:09:00.360 to scan people's messages for you know, child pornography because 166 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:02.559 they said, hell, wait, hold on, why is Apple get 167 00:09:02.600 --> 00:09:05.200 access to our messages? And so they actually pulled back 168 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:08.240 on their plans to do that. But the reality is 169 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:12.320 private messaging. Messaging is only getting more private. Companies like 170 00:09:12.440 --> 00:09:15.639 Apple are making it more private. WhatsApp end to end 171 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:19.399 encryption That means that nobody, including the company that makes 172 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:22.600 these apps, can read your messages. And the ironic part 173 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:25.360 is that Telegram is actually not end to end encrypted 174 00:09:25.360 --> 00:09:28.840 by default, which means theoretically they could look at the 175 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:32.840 messages that you are exchanging on that platform. So it's 176 00:09:32.840 --> 00:09:37.080 a really interesting wide web here. But it all comes 177 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:39.039 down to I guess, encryption and privacy. 178 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:40.200 That's it. 179 00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:45.600 So that's the difference between Telegram and the other apps. 180 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:49.320 So otherwise they're basically all the same the messaging, it's 181 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:53.360 just the controls of the app with people using it. 182 00:09:53.480 --> 00:09:54.240 Do I have that right? 183 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:54.799 Yeah? 184 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:56.559 It's like how much how far do they go to 185 00:09:56.639 --> 00:09:59.200 kind of moderate what people are doing on this app. 186 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:06.279 Okay, interesting, Elon Musk is backing a California AI safety bill, 187 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:08.559 and you would think he would be the last one 188 00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:09.159 to do that. 189 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:11.559 So let's get into that for a second. 190 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:14.399 Well, it's interesting. You know, I just finished reading the 191 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:19.279 Walter Isaacson biography of Elon Musk, and you know, it's 192 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:24.519 it's interesting how Elon actually has a lot of hesitations 193 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:28.200 about AI and he's very worried about it, and and 194 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:30.480 this is this kind of goes along with that because 195 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:34.000 California is trying to vote in this AI safety bill, 196 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:38.960 which basically requires companies that are doing big AI kind 197 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:42.279 of instances like open Ai and Anthropic and all these 198 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:45.919 different companies like Meta to test their models before they're released, 199 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:48.960 and also include a kill switch so if something goes wrong, 200 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:51.679 they can actually just shut the whole thing down instantly, 201 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:54.679 and they also would have to report to the state yearly, 202 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:57.200 you know, with like kind of just make sure everything's 203 00:10:57.200 --> 00:11:00.159 good and up on the up and up. A lot 204 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:03.240 of major companies, as you might imagine, Google, Meta, Open Ai, 205 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:05.559 they all oppose this because they say no, no, no, hold on, 206 00:11:06.039 --> 00:11:08.799 you know, we want unfettered access to AI. We want 207 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:10.559 to launch this stuff fast, and we don't want to 208 00:11:10.600 --> 00:11:14.919 fall behind other countries, including China that might leap frog 209 00:11:14.960 --> 00:11:17.840 ahead of us if we start putting roadblocks in front 210 00:11:17.840 --> 00:11:22.159 of our AI. And the only two people that are 211 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:24.200 big that are in favor of this right now are 212 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:28.480 Elon Musk and the folks behind Claude, which is anthropic. 213 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:33.279 That's the company that I actually prefer for my AI bill. Meanwhile, 214 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:35.440 on my radio show over the weekend, we interviewed a 215 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:38.759 guy named Max Tegmark. He is a he's a big 216 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:41.879 AI futurist, he's an MIT professor, and he actually said 217 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:45.480 on the show that he is very, very worried about 218 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:48.600 AI and he feels like California has taken the first 219 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:52.480 step to sort of create an FDA to regulate AI 220 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:55.639 with this bill, similar to how we regulate drug safety. 221 00:11:56.120 --> 00:12:02.879 Okay, So Rich this Saturday from eleven to two with 222 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:10.159 his show following probably the best show on KFI, probably 223 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:15.159 in Los Angeles, probably in the country, maybe the world, 224 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:17.240 and possibly intergalactically. 225 00:12:17.759 --> 00:12:19.960 And that's handle on the law. 226 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:24.240 Rich. 227 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:26.639 Now, I will we'll talk. 228 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:30.720 I listen to you Saturday morning, eleven to two, eleven 229 00:12:30.759 --> 00:12:35.720 to two here at rich on Tech Instagram, rich on 230 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:39.600 Tech dot TV website, So a lot of places to 231 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:41.559 get hold of Rich all. 232 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:42.080 Right, have a good one. 233 00:12:42.120 --> 00:12:44.759 I'll catch you over the weekend. Take care, rich Bill 234 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:46.159 all right, I have a question. 235 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:48.399 This has to do with going to school. 236 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:51.600 Most of us have gone to school, particularly elementary school, 237 00:12:51.679 --> 00:12:56.440 and they say junior high. So what's going on. Let 238 00:12:56.440 --> 00:12:59.360 me tell you what the law is right now. And 239 00:12:59.399 --> 00:13:01.399 that is particular. 240 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:03.000 This is in public schools. 241 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:08.840 Under California law, a teacher if he or she is 242 00:13:08.919 --> 00:13:13.720 being assaulted by a student, say student hits the teacher, 243 00:13:14.320 --> 00:13:20.679 the teacher must call the police under law, and if not, 244 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:28.279 they actually can be prosecuted. So there's a bill going 245 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:30.480 on right now in the Assembly that changes all that 246 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:34.679 and says no teacher makes the call. And it has 247 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:38.840 to do with teachers, and proponents of the bill saying. 248 00:13:38.559 --> 00:13:39.799 Wait a minute. 249 00:13:40.879 --> 00:13:44.240 If the teachers can make the call, then the teachers 250 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:48.480 can deal with students that, for example, are acting out. 251 00:13:49.519 --> 00:13:53.919 Now I love this. If a student hits a teacher. 252 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:57.519 There are people that say that's normal behavior for teenagers. 253 00:13:57.559 --> 00:14:02.279 You go, wait a minute, that's normal behavior. And this 254 00:14:02.360 --> 00:14:02.799 has to. 255 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:04.960 Do with inner city schools. 256 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:08.679 Of course it does, and statistics are that kids or 257 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:11.679 inner city schools are arrested more often with the cops 258 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:15.159 showing up, and that means when you're arrested more often. 259 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:17.919 This is statistics, okay, because it follows and it makes sense. 260 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:22.159 Kids who are arrested do worse in high school, They 261 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:26.559 don't finish, they don't do as well in life. And 262 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:30.080 I think they've got it a little bit wrong because 263 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:33.919 they're saying the problem is calling the cops. Teachers should 264 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:39.000 be able to deal with problem students and make the decision. Now, 265 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:42.960 the problem is not calling the cops. The problem is 266 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:48.559 why do the teachers call the cops. So, if I 267 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:53.279 get this straight, the stat is that when the cops 268 00:14:53.279 --> 00:14:57.080 are called, when law enforcement is called in under any circumstances, 269 00:14:57.080 --> 00:14:59.279 not just assault, a kid acts out to the point 270 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:01.919 where it gets ridiculous and has to be removed, and 271 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:05.000 you've got security offers. They have to come in school 272 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:10.000 security officers, throw them out, arrest them. Possibly it's we've 273 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:13.960 got to give a rehabilitative a position here. 274 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:16.559 We've got to help those kids, and we cannot call 275 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:18.720 the police. That's the problem because under law, they. 276 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:22.320 Have to be called and you go, wait a minute, Okay. 277 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:26.600 Number one is I'd really like to go why this happens? 278 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:32.399 Why does a teacher? Why must a teacher call the cops? Well, 279 00:15:32.440 --> 00:15:35.720 because if a kid starts pummeling a teacher, you think 280 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:39.360 there's more than just a behavior problem here. Do you 281 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:43.519 know when we went to school and Neil point this out. 282 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:48.039 When we went to school, the thought of some kid 283 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:52.240 hitting a teacher was just beyond comprehension. 284 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:57.159 How does a kid hit a teacher? Well, we'll assault. 285 00:15:57.159 --> 00:15:58.919 It's a crime. Yeah, it is a crime. 286 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:04.279 But the point is what this bill is saying that 287 00:16:04.360 --> 00:16:07.720 it's the teacher that makes the call, not an undoes 288 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:11.480 the law that says the teacher must call the police. 289 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:14.840 And that is the difference because those that are proponents 290 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:17.639 of the bill says, we have to look at it 291 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:21.840 way differently. We have to look into the behavior problems. 292 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:24.840 We have to look into why the student is doing this. 293 00:16:24.919 --> 00:16:28.759 We have to go deeper because look at the students 294 00:16:28.759 --> 00:16:32.240 where the cops are called, they do have behavior issues. 295 00:16:32.279 --> 00:16:35.879 They do come from families that are broken up. They 296 00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:38.919 do come from families that are not only broken but 297 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:42.919 poor and sometimes homeless, and so of course the kid 298 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:46.039 is going to act out, so let's deal with that. Well, 299 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:49.399 law enforcement is going crazy, saying what are you talking about. 300 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:53.240 You know, you can figure out later whether the kid 301 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:56.240 needs help, doesn't need help, probably does, and you can 302 00:16:56.279 --> 00:16:58.879 set up all the programs. But in the meantime, he 303 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:03.279 hits a teacher and we're going to arrest him for assault. 304 00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:07.839 Teachers have no leeway, and this bill says teachers have 305 00:17:08.440 --> 00:17:12.759 a lot of leeway or yeah, this new bill, and 306 00:17:13.119 --> 00:17:13.480 it is. 307 00:17:13.559 --> 00:17:15.359 It's actually pretty controversial. 308 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:22.799 There was there's a teacher who was interviewed Zobema Basqueda. 309 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:26.039 First year, she had a choice. She had students. 310 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:30.200 One of her students difficulty controlling emotions, and one day 311 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:35.680 the student had a melt down and kicked Bascua Daniel down, 312 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:39.000 and the principal asked Busca Daniel, do you want me 313 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:42.799 to call the police? And it counted as an assault, 314 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:46.039 but the principal realized, we have. 315 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:48.119 To call the police now. 316 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:50.079 The kid had moved in with her family after being 317 00:17:50.119 --> 00:17:53.880 in and out of foster care, beginning to the process 318 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:57.480 for her disability, been working with the teacher for coping mechanisms, 319 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:00.960 and part of it is the kids started hitting the 320 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:06.079 teacher actually the point where the teacher went down, And 321 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:09.079 Basquanato said, the problem is not the hitting. The problem 322 00:18:09.319 --> 00:18:13.440 is where did the hitting come from? And there it goes. 323 00:18:13.680 --> 00:18:16.680 That is your typical And I don't even know if 324 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:21.119 they're really connected. I guess in one sense it's looking 325 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:24.559 on either side of the coin. Assault is assault is 326 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:28.119 assault Now under the new law, if a student is 327 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:30.279 selling drugs, must call the cops. 328 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:34.880 If a student has a weapon, must call the cops. 329 00:18:34.920 --> 00:18:35.880 That doesn't change. 330 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:39.440 But the rest of it doesn't matter how far the 331 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:42.680 kid acts out, even to the point of beating up 332 00:18:42.680 --> 00:18:46.319 a teacher, The teacher has a call, has the call 333 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:46.720 to make. 334 00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:53.599 Is doesn't that add more problems? Bill in consistency? I mean, 335 00:18:53.680 --> 00:18:57.839 isn't because what if one is so severe they feel 336 00:18:57.839 --> 00:19:00.400 the need to call the cops and that person, Susan says, 337 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:02.880 they are separating me. 338 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:05.519 And yeah, and that's and that that is a very 339 00:19:05.559 --> 00:19:08.400 good argument. I haven't. I didn't think about that. 340 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:13.319 And the argument is, well, uh, and more minorities are 341 00:19:13.519 --> 00:19:16.079 have the cops called on them, and more minorities are 342 00:19:16.119 --> 00:19:19.880 affected by the police arrest of them, and therefore, any 343 00:19:19.960 --> 00:19:25.720 law that discriminates and that's in quotes minorities. Okay, Well, 344 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:29.079 when you look at broken homes, when you look at 345 00:19:29.119 --> 00:19:32.279 people who don't have money and have a rough time 346 00:19:32.319 --> 00:19:35.039 at home, if they have a home, it happens more 347 00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:37.359 with people who don't in the inner. 348 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:40.720 City, it does. I mean that's the reality. 349 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:44.160 And I think people have to be treated in terms 350 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:47.599 of the police differently. They have to be given more 351 00:19:47.720 --> 00:19:50.920 programs because they need them. I'm fine with that. More 352 00:19:50.960 --> 00:19:54.960 money has to be invested in inner city schools in 353 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:58.319 terms of helping students. But man, you got to treat 354 00:19:58.359 --> 00:20:01.519 everybody the same when they're act and I mean disrupting 355 00:20:01.519 --> 00:20:05.480 a class and beating up kids and beating up a teacher. 356 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:06.920 Okay. 357 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:10.599 Now, I don't know if you've ever been to some 358 00:20:10.680 --> 00:20:14.119 of the iconic eateries in Los Angeles. 359 00:20:14.279 --> 00:20:21.440 Philip's Guile Guitesca that I don't even know. How's that pronounced? Well, yeah, 360 00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:22.759 I have no idea how it's pronounced. 361 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:25.200 So Hawkin Restaurant on Olympic I don't know. 362 00:20:25.960 --> 00:20:26.720 I've never been to it. 363 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:30.519 Pinks, certainly, it's a terrific restaurant. 364 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:31.920 Okay, Musso and Frank certainly. 365 00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:34.519 So. I've been to most of those and also Langers 366 00:20:35.039 --> 00:20:38.960 Langers Delicatessen in or at MacArthur Park. 367 00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:41.799 And here is the issue. 368 00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:46.000 It is truly one of the most iconic eateries in 369 00:20:46.039 --> 00:20:46.799 Los Angeles. 370 00:20:46.880 --> 00:20:49.079 It is wonderful. It's a deli. 371 00:20:49.640 --> 00:20:52.039 It's been around since nineteen forty seven. I have eaten 372 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:53.519 there several times. 373 00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:56.480 I love the food. I will not go near MacArthur Park. 374 00:20:56.559 --> 00:21:01.119 And the owner is saying that's the problem because MacArthur 375 00:21:01.240 --> 00:21:05.759 Park basically has become one of the sketchiest and has 376 00:21:05.799 --> 00:21:09.519 for years and years, the sketchiest, most dangerous places you 377 00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:10.000 can go. 378 00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:11.880 The lake at MacArthur Park. 379 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:14.079 That's fun when they clean it and dredge it up 380 00:21:14.119 --> 00:21:15.039 every couple of years. 381 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:17.119 Because of the body and the body. 382 00:21:16.799 --> 00:21:19.720 Parts that are in it, as well as all the 383 00:21:19.720 --> 00:21:24.839 garbage they pull out, the place is a god awful mess. 384 00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:28.920 The drug dealing that goes on across the street from 385 00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:31.480 Langers right there, I mean you can see drug dealers 386 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:36.039 and the homeless people and the trash. It's just it 387 00:21:36.119 --> 00:21:38.599 is horrific. And here's why Norm Langer is saying, I'm 388 00:21:38.599 --> 00:21:42.640 going to shut it down. City won't do jack about it. 389 00:21:43.599 --> 00:21:47.400 We need better lighting, we need better security, we need 390 00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:50.759 law enforcement showing up. They have to clean the place up, 391 00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:53.599 and the city, well, according to normal Langer doesn't do it. 392 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:56.480 And it's not just a restaurant deciding to close down. 393 00:21:56.559 --> 00:21:57.559 This is Langers. 394 00:21:58.599 --> 00:22:01.720 I mean, this is, you know, one of the best 395 00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:04.440 known delis, and it's known nationally. 396 00:22:04.920 --> 00:22:06.759 There's just certain things or the. 397 00:22:06.680 --> 00:22:09.519 Carnegie Delly, for example in New York shut down, by 398 00:22:09.519 --> 00:22:11.640 the way, that's gone, Lindy's. 399 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:14.720 I don't know if Linday is still around in New York. 400 00:22:14.759 --> 00:22:17.000 I mean most of them have shut down because I 401 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:20.400