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Speaker 2: Steve Rivera and with me today on a Monday, Troy
Speaker 2: Hutchesson of Go easycats dot Com. And we got our
Speaker 2: guy Ray here probably for a lot of the summer.
Speaker 3: Ray.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cool, cool, A lot of things happened over the weekend, right,
Speaker 2: smootball graduation, kids are gone, Ray, how men more years
Speaker 2: agot twelve. You're gonna take it easy. Na, you already
Speaker 2: have been in the real world. You don't need to
Speaker 2: go back in the real world.
Speaker 4: I do. You know.
Speaker 5: It's fun, it's fun being in college, but you don't
Speaker 5: make a lot of money there.
Speaker 4: So well you don't. I remember those days. Troy. You're
Speaker 4: still in college too.
Speaker 2: You're looking you gotta be like rat bye boy ro
Speaker 2: Troy here, he's on the twenty year plan.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah no, but you don't make a lot of
Speaker 4: money out, so it's a problem. That's true.
Speaker 2: I don't have you graduates. It's gonna be a tough
Speaker 2: haul out there. Yeah, no one said it was going
Speaker 2: to be easy. Guys, were you surprised this weekend in
Speaker 2: terms of softball?
Speaker 4: No, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I can't need to hear nor of there from me
Speaker 2: because I don't know enough about it. But I watched
Speaker 2: them play yesterday. Obviously they played well the first game
Speaker 2: with the strong pitching of of tell.
Speaker 4: Me her name was it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they didn't go with her in the
Speaker 2: second game, which, of course I think you go with
Speaker 2: your best person, right, and she got rocked nets I
Speaker 2: got hurt early and.
Speaker 4: Left her in too long.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I think that's the biggest thing with people talking,
Speaker 2: you know, or criticizing. Everybody has an answer, right, like
Speaker 2: it's Scott, It's every sport there, because everybody knows that
Speaker 2: they kept her in too long. The pitching, YadA YadA.
Speaker 2: That was the downfall. They lost what thirteen games total?
Speaker 2: Fourteen games? Yeah, but in a really crappy conference. Okay, well,
Speaker 2: I can only play. I can only play what I
Speaker 2: put in front of me.
Speaker 4: I get it. But compared to what they're using.
Speaker 2: Well, then they well, then they weren't there. Then they
Speaker 2: weren't ready to play in the tournament because the SEC
Speaker 2: is what it was, right, Uh, and they like basketball,
Speaker 2: right you? You you beg that they have this conference
Speaker 2: because it gets you ready for the tournament. And people
Speaker 2: said it got Arizona ready for the tournament such.
Speaker 4: That it is. They finished in the sweet sixteen again.
Speaker 2: And here now softball, if they were in a bad conference,
Speaker 2: maybe minus a player a team or two, they weren't
Speaker 2: going to get any further than this.
Speaker 4: Oklahoma and Texas were in that bad conference for a
Speaker 4: long time and nominated. Yeah. Now, I'll say this Oklahoma State,
Speaker 4: it's not what it used to be as usually they're
Speaker 4: that other team there. Yeah, but I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 4: after watching the third, the well, the seventh game, the
Speaker 4: final game last night, in covering softball for a while,
Speaker 4: it's one of the worst coach games I've ever seen.
Speaker 4: The final game. The final game was what was best
Speaker 4: base running blunders. I don't know why that early in
Speaker 4: the first Okay, still the same. I don't know what
Speaker 4: the heck you're doing there down by four, Yeah, with
Speaker 4: your power coming up to the plate. Just sloppy defense
Speaker 4: in the infield. They had that ball get behind. I
Speaker 4: think stratterard before she went to the mount into the circle,
Speaker 4: which led to a couple of runs in that ending
Speaker 4: as well, a little late polling out Devin nets and
Speaker 4: then you bring Aisa, she gets blown up to finally
Speaker 4: you bring in stratter and easy working for her. I
Speaker 4: just felt like it was a game where Caitlyn got
Speaker 4: completely out coached. And I can't remember a game that
Speaker 4: poorly coach from Arizona. Have they lose Friday night? Was it? Friday?
Speaker 4: Kind of got blown out from the starting, Yeah, but
Speaker 4: the ole Miss kind of jumped out. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: They were playing catch.
Speaker 2: Up, yeah, or maybe they just weren't good enough. And
Speaker 2: sometimes sometimes teams, and I say this every now and again,
Speaker 2: and people look at me, sometimes you get beat by
Speaker 2: or better team and no matter how how good you
Speaker 2: looked or think you looked during the season, you're not
Speaker 2: as good as you think you are.
Speaker 4: I don't think Ole Miss was the better team, though
Speaker 4: I know they're moving on. I know they're moving on. Okay,
Speaker 4: their resume would prove that wise, but go ahead, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think they were the better team. I think
Speaker 4: the overarching theme of this is and we've been talking
Speaker 4: about this for a long time. Arizona still doesn't have pitching.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and they haven't had it forever. You can
Speaker 4: talk about they haven't had it forever. They haven't really
Speaker 4: had it since I say, ken zy Valor. But you
Speaker 4: could argue Taylor McQuillan, who was in All Conference performer
Speaker 4: back twelve. Elysidenum was there too. But they haven't had
Speaker 4: decent pitching. I mean, their pitching seems to except for
Speaker 4: this year. Devin had a very good year, but the
Speaker 4: last two years you can argue that with some of
Speaker 4: the worst pitching errors on stop all history the last right, right.
Speaker 2: And also recruiting well also, yeah, well your computer, you're
Speaker 2: recruiting as good as you can because the good old
Speaker 2: days are garden?
Speaker 6: Are they?
Speaker 4: Though? The Google days are guard Yeah, I'm not. I'm
Speaker 4: not saying the nineties the nineties are winning six titles
Speaker 4: and and years long, right, but you're not even close
Speaker 4: to being a team that should be in Oklahoma City
Speaker 4: and no offense that can't low. But that first year
Speaker 4: they backed door their way into to make it.
Speaker 2: Sure, Well, no apologies, they shouldn't give you an apology.
Speaker 2: But I don't disagree with you they And that's fine.
Speaker 2: I mean it is on my resume. If I were them,
Speaker 2: we got there. Don't bitch about how you got there.
Speaker 2: Uh and you were there, right, I was okay, So
Speaker 2: they got there, they got you there, but they were
Speaker 2: not that good compared to and yes, back in just
Speaker 2: it was like the uh, the the Mike Dunlap, the
Speaker 2: penalty year with those guys that got to the Street sixteen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, and it was it was the circum the
Speaker 2: doors opened for whatever reason. Yeah, and they got to
Speaker 2: the Sweet sixteen, got their ass handed to him. But they
Speaker 2: got there, and everybody talks it was a down here,
Speaker 2: sure it was, but Sweet sixteen pretty damn good. Same
Speaker 2: place Arizona got this year and last year or last year.
Speaker 4: But when is the recruiting had taken up.
Speaker 2: It looks those days, those days of Arizona being their
Speaker 2: parents may know, but not anymore.
Speaker 4: But I think you limit yourself when you're basically just
Speaker 4: still recruiting the state of California. You're not going into Texas,
Speaker 4: you're not going into the South. You're staying in California
Speaker 4: to stay in Arizona. You haven't expanded your recruiting pool,
Speaker 4: your stadium is one of the best in the country
Speaker 4: outside of maybe Oklahoma. You have tradition, you have the facilities,
Speaker 4: you have the weather, okay, and I all, okay, you
Speaker 4: can make up for it in another way.
Speaker 2: Have you have you posed this question to the powers
Speaker 2: that be, the coaches, the assistant coaches, the AD or
Speaker 2: not maybe not so much the AD now but in
Speaker 2: the past, because it is what you're saying true. Is
Speaker 2: what you're saying true, and even off the record, you
Speaker 2: don't have to tell me about the record stuff. But
Speaker 2: what's the problem then if they can't get that done?
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's coaching.
Speaker 2: Do you think if they had a different company they
Speaker 2: get they're not go If they do, it'd be so
Speaker 2: shocking to me.
Speaker 4: I don't think if they will, because she's.
Speaker 2: Done really well, I don't think she has Holy crap,
Speaker 2: who are you?
Speaker 4: I don't think she has in what sense. I think
Speaker 4: the program is not where it was when Andrea left.
Speaker 4: First of all, they had a Jazon infield, they got
Speaker 4: to the Women's College World Series. They had pitching on
Speaker 4: that staff, so he was recruiting at a higher level.
Speaker 4: His final days were not as great as people think.
Speaker 4: I mean, he went to back back Women's College World
Speaker 4: Series and teams that did back into that respect, they didn't. Yeah, no,
Speaker 4: they didn't back into that. They hosted the super Regionals
Speaker 4: his second last, Mississippi miss and then they they kind
Speaker 4: of fumbled around the season his last year, but then
Speaker 4: they got the draw of Arkansas. They got to the
Speaker 4: Women's College World Series. But they were a very talented team.
Speaker 4: They were top five, I think top ten team to
Speaker 4: start that year, and then people graduated. She got talent
Speaker 4: in Charlie's Pelacio is transferred out. They've had other transfers
Speaker 4: to How much does she make, you know, Kalin Low?
Speaker 4: I think it's very low.
Speaker 2: Okay, so okay, there's okay, So let's assume second she
Speaker 2: no longer here. Who are they going to get that's
Speaker 2: going to be paid low?
Speaker 4: I think they were able to pay pay low because
Speaker 4: it was an assistant coach off the staff. I don't
Speaker 4: think you had to spend big bucks. I think you
Speaker 4: could spend a little bit more to that degree. According
Speaker 4: to Google two and twenty five thousand. Okay, yeah, that's
Speaker 4: very well, that's for the position. I can't remember what
Speaker 4: was Candrea's final count, Probably around five hundred thousands around there.
Speaker 4: But I mean the top paid coaches. Oklahoma coach, I
Speaker 4: can Yeah, she's making one point whatever her players are
Speaker 4: making that. Yeah, but I'm not saying you need to
Speaker 4: do that. But there are coaches out there. Oh no,
Speaker 4: I think I think you could take a shot at
Speaker 4: the Clemson coach who was with Hendrea for Team USA
Speaker 4: and did a good job at Stanford when he was there. Yeah, Ritman,
Speaker 4: we went to college together. I think you could take
Speaker 4: a shot at him. I think he's at the Arkansas coach,
Speaker 4: who I think has done a very good job there. Female.
Speaker 4: I think there's probably some assistants out there cross the country.
Speaker 4: I just I think Caitlin is a very good person,
Speaker 4: very good, uh like inspirational type of I think there's
Speaker 4: that piece missing.
Speaker 2: How is she in terms of getting on the girls,
Speaker 2: like not motivating them, but getting on them, like let's go.
Speaker 4: It's It's not the same as what it was coach, Oh.
Speaker 2: No, no, of course not. They played differently. They played different
Speaker 2: for him, like they played different for lut than they
Speaker 2: did for Sean, And you know, Sean kind of scared
Speaker 2: them into painting hard.
Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to compare it to everybody's thinking
Speaker 4: that that's not what I'm trying to do. But are
Speaker 4: you trying to do? I think the standards are higher
Speaker 4: than what the what I think the standards are higher
Speaker 4: for hers on a softball and the expectations haven't been met.
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying you need to be number one
Speaker 4: in the country year in a year. Are they realistic expectations?
Speaker 4: I think they are. With everybody else getting better, I
Speaker 4: think they are. Andrea his last contract. Look, I told
Speaker 4: you here there's no drug testing in this place. What
Speaker 4: was it? Yeah? I still that wasn't that much. Well
Speaker 4: back in the day, when did he sign that? Yeah?
Speaker 4: In comparison, but no, I mean, you have the facilities,
Speaker 4: you have the weather.
Speaker 2: I won't argue any more than I've already argued with
Speaker 2: you because I don't know enough. But I know that
Speaker 2: how good they were back in the day because I
Speaker 2: was part of the covering the team and following him
Speaker 2: a lot. Now not so much. It's hard to sustain that. Obviously.
Speaker 2: You know, UCLA isn't the UCLA back in the day.
Speaker 2: Duke isn't the same either, Uh.
Speaker 4: And it hurts him that you don't have the pac twelve.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, So so what are you saying the
Speaker 2: record of forty whatever it was in thirteen, whatever it was,
Speaker 2: is you should have an asterix there.
Speaker 4: I'm saying you hosted a region First of all, that
Speaker 4: was the first time she's ever hosted a regional. Okay,
Speaker 4: it should be bare minimum. She's already missed a tournament.
Speaker 4: You've had a hard time getting out of the regionals.
Speaker 4: And this is Arizona soapotball, who's probably the second third
Speaker 4: best program in the history of the game. And yeah,
Speaker 4: people are saying, oh, well, it's not the ninety Well no,
Speaker 4: it's not the nineties, but you can still put on
Speaker 4: a good product out there on the field. What they
Speaker 4: didn't put out a good product. I don't think it's
Speaker 4: an extremely talented roster. I think it's a no, no, no,
Speaker 4: that wasn't my question. The product winning all those games. Okay,
Speaker 4: it's the regular season. What do you do in the postseason?
Speaker 2: Oh no, let me tell you. I'm the guy that
Speaker 2: it says matter it matters in March. Guess what in
Speaker 2: softball it matters in May?
Speaker 4: Exactly. I get it. But again, you're measured by that,
Speaker 4: and that's just how it Arizona is and I just discussions.
Speaker 2: Where did you go to lunch today? We should have
Speaker 2: you go there more often. Uh, okay, we'll talk more
Speaker 2: about this later. How much time we have we okay
Speaker 2: not three minutes?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: No, well okay, I uh, I don't feel as strongly
Speaker 2: as you. I do understand your point. So maybe we'll
Speaker 2: talk more about it after after we talked to our
Speaker 2: guy today.
Speaker 4: What's his name, Gusky Crowd Crowley, he's the GM. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we'll talk about what that all tails.
Speaker 2: You were kind of giving me a background of all
Speaker 2: these people they have in the room and maybe five
Speaker 2: of the same guys doing the same thing. Because he's
Speaker 2: the he's not he's the GM, but not the right
Speaker 2: hand man to to Brennan.
Speaker 4: We got a call.
Speaker 2: Let's go take this call real quick. Hello, you're on
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Speaker 6: This is guy Crowley and the GM at University of
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Speaker 1: the Ball with Steam on Fox Sports sporteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to I and the Ball Here on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In with me
Speaker 2: today is Troy Hutchinson of goezycats dot com. Now on
Speaker 2: the phone, we have Geiska Crowley the general matter of
Speaker 2: you a football How are you doing.
Speaker 6: I'm doing great, guys, Thanks for having me. I really
Speaker 6: appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yes, no, thank you, thank you. You know, back in
Speaker 2: the day and I'm old and I've been here a
Speaker 2: long time covered football undertow me and the rest of
Speaker 2: my time was with coach coach Olsen Sean and stuff.
Speaker 2: So GM it's new to me, right, it's new to
Speaker 2: people like me who have never seen this. But you've
Speaker 2: been on board for a couple of years. Could you
Speaker 2: explain to the listeners what you do and what that
Speaker 2: title means?
Speaker 6: Of course, of course, the landscape of college football has
Speaker 6: has really changed, obviously, you know, not just football, all
Speaker 6: the sports, but football especially, and a lot you know,
Speaker 6: has to do with just the size of the team,
Speaker 6: right where traditionally you might have a couple of guys
Speaker 6: in recruiting, you know, maybe a director or player person
Speaker 6: or a director of recruiting title, but really you know,
Speaker 6: post COVID with the eligibility extensions, a transfer portal and
Speaker 6: then now kind of with nil and potential revenue share
Speaker 6: coming up later on this year. Having a person or
Speaker 6: people in these roles and their job solely focused on,
Speaker 6: you know, roster building, roster retention is something that is
Speaker 6: kind of you know, it's popped up in a lot
Speaker 6: of different schools. Obviously you're in the U of A
Speaker 6: so you know, having someone like myself is really just
Speaker 6: dedicated to that and trying to be a resource for
Speaker 6: our coach and support our coaches any way we can
Speaker 6: let them focused on, you know, focus on the field
Speaker 6: and obviously recruiting and then some of the back office stuff. Uh.
Speaker 6: You know, I kind of work more day to day
Speaker 6: with coach Burnt.
Speaker 4: You know when you look at the landscape of college
Speaker 4: football you mentioned it with nil and all that just
Speaker 4: your day to day's stuff, how much of it is
Speaker 4: nil and also looking for opportunities, uh, for current players
Speaker 4: on the roster that are seeking those NIL deals.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good that's a good question. So I
Speaker 6: think to start off what my day looks like. There's
Speaker 6: always kinds of different pillars that we talk about, right,
Speaker 6: There's always the prospect identification, which kind of falls more
Speaker 6: into the scouting world, you know, whether that's the high
Speaker 6: school prospects, junior college prospects, or are obviously transfer portal.
Speaker 6: And then you have the recruiting itself, right, that's the
Speaker 6: on campus aspect. That's the relationship building and the culture
Speaker 6: building and kind of selling what we have here at
Speaker 6: the U of A. Right, So that's kind of the
Speaker 6: recruiting aspect. And then and then there's also the player retention, right,
Speaker 6: and that's making sure you know, our coaches and creating
Speaker 6: an opportunity for our players that when other teams come calling,
Speaker 6: which which is the nature of football nowadays, that we
Speaker 6: have the structures and systems in place to support them,
Speaker 6: you know. And that's socially, that's academically, spiritually, obviously athletically.
Speaker 6: And then now in the in the name, image and
Speaker 6: likeness space, you know, we have a beyond football program
Speaker 6: that Tobrio Blaine runs. She's in our director of player development,
Speaker 6: works with our guys deal in creating, you know, their
Speaker 6: brand and creating what she calls a parallel path. Not
Speaker 6: just everyone always talks about life after football, which is important,
Speaker 6: but the way that she builds it is she wants
Speaker 6: our guys to have football and whatever that next profession
Speaker 6: is kind of working side by side. So we've been
Speaker 6: really lucky here. We've got an incredible group of supporters
Speaker 6: and people who not only give obviously financially, but also
Speaker 6: give their time, mentorship, internship programs for our current players.
Speaker 6: Is really really important in the in the transfer portal era,
Speaker 6: is that the players need to feel like they're being
Speaker 6: supported not just from a football perspective, but kind of holistically.
Speaker 2: So in this whole process of getting here, and you've
Speaker 2: been here since Brennan got here, Uh, did you intend
Speaker 2: to coach in your previous life before here? And did
Speaker 2: you want and did you want? Because this is this
Speaker 2: is more administrative stuff. And you know when when you
Speaker 2: ask a kid what do you want to be? I
Speaker 2: want to be a pro baseball player or a pro
Speaker 2: football player. Well, when you're a kid, what did you
Speaker 2: want to do? And and how what led you along
Speaker 2: this path?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a little bit like you guys. I think
Speaker 6: are a little bit older, right, And I always tell people,
Speaker 6: so I got my degree from Florida State in social
Speaker 6: studies education. So I was a high school coach and
Speaker 6: a teacher, so was my wife. You know, I thought
Speaker 6: that's what I was going to do. I taught and
Speaker 6: my coach for for about six years and I taught
Speaker 6: football or steming coach football, wrestling, track. Just kind of
Speaker 6: had that that that that path really wanted to break
Speaker 6: into college football. I loved college football, like that's what
Speaker 6: I wanted to work in. For this reason or that reason.
Speaker 6: It just kind of didn't work out at the collegiate
Speaker 6: level on the coaching side, But really in that process
Speaker 6: fell in love with recruiting and fell along with scouting
Speaker 6: and player evaluations and team building. And that's what took
Speaker 6: me from you know, a high school football coach to
Speaker 6: now now here at the U.
Speaker 4: Men. You know, when people think of the term GM,
Speaker 4: they look at the pro model in terms of a
Speaker 4: guy that roster builds and oh, you know, he chooses
Speaker 4: his coach. It's completely different obviously at the college. But
Speaker 4: you brought up the player development and the scouting side
Speaker 4: of it. How important is it to have those things
Speaker 4: in place? And how useful is it for the coaching
Speaker 4: staff to have a guy like you that is out
Speaker 4: there scouting. This world of recruiting that has grown substantially,
Speaker 4: and it seems like it's harder and harder to find
Speaker 4: guys that are hidden gems that you would find back
Speaker 4: in the day. The hidden gum is a harder thing
Speaker 4: to find now.
Speaker 6: It is. And I think a lot of that is,
Speaker 6: like you said, the volume, right, So like where we're
Speaker 6: at right now, from January when we had our mid
Speaker 6: year rolies to the summer. I mean we're going to
Speaker 6: bring in in the mid fifties new players, right, So
Speaker 6: we're for our coaches to be able to be on
Speaker 6: the road coaching or beyond the road recruiting. Obviously coaching,
Speaker 6: the volume is just so much bigger, where in the
Speaker 6: past you may only sign you know, twenty or twenty
Speaker 6: five guys. So to have people off the field that
Speaker 6: can create systems and processes and structures to allow our
Speaker 6: coaches to be at their best coaching. What my job
Speaker 6: is is to kind of filter through it all. Right.
Speaker 6: If a high school coach from Phoenix reaches out and
Speaker 6: they give us our prospect list, you know, me and
Speaker 6: my staff are the ones that evaluate them, will grade them.
Speaker 6: We have an internal grading system based on our critical
Speaker 6: factors at each position, and then we bring them to
Speaker 6: the position coaches, and then the position coaches will watch
Speaker 6: them and it kind of works up the ladder, and
Speaker 6: we really try to act like, you know, like an
Speaker 6: NFL scouting department, and we want to provide the background information,
Speaker 6: talk to the high school coaches, get that kind of
Speaker 6: character info as well, so then we can package that
Speaker 6: and give it to the coaches to then ultimately, you know,
Speaker 6: make the decision with coach Brennan on you know what
Speaker 6: players we want to bring in and bring into the program.
Speaker 6: So it looks different, you know, sometimes the years it's
Speaker 6: heavy high school, like right now, all our coaches are
Speaker 6: out on the road visiting high schools and high school coaches,
Speaker 6: and obviously when it comes to portal season, it's a
Speaker 6: little more transfer portal, so it changes based on where
Speaker 6: you're in the calendar. But the foundation and the systems
Speaker 6: and the processes are all the same.
Speaker 2: Now to your point, shroy I was thinking about, you
Speaker 2: know what timming goes through too, because there are no secrets, right,
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's every school in the in the country
Speaker 2: as you as, right, don't they have you doing the
Speaker 2: same thing somewhere else, and so you don't. Everyone kind
Speaker 2: of knows everything. But what when you do you go
Speaker 2: overseas as well? And maybe look at people who potentially
Speaker 2: have that football potential.
Speaker 6: We definitely do, probably less so than than than coach
Speaker 6: with the you know, the basketball program. Obviously that's that's
Speaker 6: really mainstream. Sure, but you know we had, uh, you know,
Speaker 6: we had you know, we had a German tight end
Speaker 6: last year. We've got we signed a kid from New Zealand,
Speaker 6: a big defensive tackle. We signed an Australian punter. Uh
Speaker 6: had a defensive tackle you know from Obviously, the Polynesian
Speaker 6: community in Tongo and American so are huge to the
Speaker 6: u of A that Polynesia pipeline. So we absolutely will.
Speaker 6: Now it's a little bit different than basketball because in
Speaker 6: basketball they're playing the same game right in Europe or
Speaker 6: you know, Africa and wherever they're going. So typically what
Speaker 6: will happen is guys will come from overseas, maybe played
Speaker 6: a junior college or a prep school, and then that's
Speaker 6: when we see some of the football foundation to kind
Speaker 6: of recruit them for our response. But yeah, you know,
Speaker 6: we'll probably have four or five international kids every year
Speaker 6: on the roster.
Speaker 4: You know, I know, for a lot of journalists out
Speaker 4: there and for a lot of people out there, National
Speaker 4: Signing Day has become a heck of a lot more
Speaker 4: hectic than it was just three or four years ago.
Speaker 4: What is that day and what are those signing periods
Speaker 4: like for you and your staff, because not only like
Speaker 4: you said, as at high school, it's transfer portal, it's
Speaker 4: juco kids. It seems like a whole abundance of things
Speaker 4: going on that day that really never used to happen
Speaker 4: before to that level.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you really kind of have four signing days now,
Speaker 6: it's a little bit different, like you know, traditionally, right,
Speaker 6: it was that day in February, you know, that Wednesday
Speaker 6: in February, and everyone you know, you flipped onto you know,
Speaker 6: your scouting side of choice if you follow high school kids.
Speaker 6: Now you've got you know, the December signing period, and
Speaker 6: then you're going to have you know, you're going to
Speaker 6: have your your you know, your February signing period, and
Speaker 6: then you have the spring portal window in April, and
Speaker 6: then you know you're still able to add players kind
Speaker 6: of throughout the summer. But to answer your question, signing day,
Speaker 6: it really is a culmination of a lot of work, right,
Speaker 6: you know, eighteen months, twenty four months of work that
Speaker 6: is put in getting to know the families, hosting them
Speaker 6: on visits, getting to know the parents and the high
Speaker 6: school coaches. So so you know, it's definitely a moment
Speaker 6: of pride. It's definitely a moment of accomplishment. Uh. And
Speaker 6: it's really fun when when coach Brennan's making those calls
Speaker 6: and see the excitement in the family. You know, this
Speaker 6: is you know, I've done this a while, right, I've
Speaker 6: been to a lot of signing day ceremonies, but for
Speaker 6: the kids, it's there only one, right, so we really
Speaker 6: want to respect that process. And and you do get
Speaker 6: humbled by the families and the reactions of their you know,
Speaker 6: their kid or their grandson, whomever it is. And it's
Speaker 6: something that I always I always enjoyed. It's a little
Speaker 6: bit like Christmas morning for me. But then we tell
Speaker 6: them like, hey, signing day is just one step. Now
Speaker 6: you got to get here the work and then and
Speaker 6: then develop into the football players you want to develop into.
Speaker 6: We always tell people, hey, you don't want you know,
Speaker 6: we don't want to win signing you know, we want
Speaker 6: to win Saturdays in the fall.
Speaker 4: That's what we're focusing Christmas.
Speaker 2: When you open the presence, you really don't know what
Speaker 2: you got until three four months later or longer, and
Speaker 2: sometimes the gift turns out to be not to get
Speaker 2: you thought it was right.
Speaker 6: It's a developmental it's a developmental game.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 6: There's definitely guys we think, you know, hopefully will help
Speaker 6: us as freshmen or early in their careers. But people
Speaker 6: have their own developmental pass and you know, getting whether
Speaker 6: that's in the weight room or from an ex as
Speaker 6: an o standpoint. But that's a beautiful thing about football.
Speaker 6: It's the ultimate team game for that point.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you who found whom? Did the
Speaker 2: Brent find you or you searched Arizona and Brent.
Speaker 6: That's a great question. The football world is a very small,
Speaker 6: a very small circle. So I was I was at
Speaker 6: UNLB for the twenty twenty one twenty two seasons as
Speaker 6: the chief of staff and director of player personnel. The
Speaker 6: head coach there was Marcus and Royal. Coach roy and
Speaker 6: I are really close and he's been a great mentor
Speaker 6: to me. And Coach Royal and coach Brennan when he
Speaker 6: was at San Jose State obviously friends. So I met
Speaker 6: coach b uh through that process kind of on the
Speaker 6: field across from each other, you know, and then you know,
Speaker 6: didn't know him really really well, to be honest, but
Speaker 6: just got obviously through Country Royal and when they were
Speaker 6: looking for someone to kind of head up the personnel department,
Speaker 6: Coach Royal put in a good name for me, and
Speaker 6: you know, obviously very grateful and humbled that he did that,
Speaker 6: and Coach Coach called me, kind of went through the
Speaker 6: interview process, and then that hopped out a plane and
Speaker 6: headed into something.
Speaker 4: What are the challenges because Arizona has obviously been trying
Speaker 4: to get more into the state of Texas in terms
Speaker 4: of recruiting and having a footprint there, But what are
Speaker 4: the challenges of doing that in Texas where you have
Speaker 4: all these universities and major universities that are recruiting in
Speaker 4: the same area and you guys being in Arizona trying
Speaker 4: to re establish a foot footing there in that state,
Speaker 4: what are what are the challenges of that?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that Texas is going to be huge for us.
Speaker 6: It's something obviously with the move to the Big twelve
Speaker 6: that's going to be critical for our success. You know,
Speaker 6: we'll always make Arizona, Utah, Southern California home basement, but
Speaker 6: Texas is going to be critical. I think I think
Speaker 6: the biggest challenge is just the name recognition right in
Speaker 6: the brand, Like Arizona has such a strong brand with
Speaker 6: with women's softball, women's basketball, and men's basketball, but then
Speaker 6: competing against those Texas Big twelve schools, so kind of
Speaker 6: getting in there and continuing to sell our brand and
Speaker 6: sign players. The other thing is just you know, logistical, right,
Speaker 6: Like if you're a kid from Dallas, like you can
Speaker 6: go to those schools much easier, right, that's just to
Speaker 6: drive down the road. So what we try to give
Speaker 6: them is a different option. We try to say, hey,
Speaker 6: you're going to play big time college football. You know
Speaker 6: you're going to play in the Big twelve, You're going
Speaker 6: to play in front of your family a lot in Texas.
Speaker 6: But then also why don't you kind of set your
Speaker 6: path a little different. You know, come to Tusaana, and
Speaker 6: you guys know, as soon as parents and families and
Speaker 6: the kids get here that they fall in love with
Speaker 6: the town, They fall in love with the collegiate atmosphere
Speaker 6: and the support four hour student athletes. So once we
Speaker 6: get them here, we feel pretty good. But you know,
Speaker 6: obviously we're gonna have to win, continue to do a
Speaker 6: great job in that space and prove that we can
Speaker 6: develop players. But we're really excited. We feel like we
Speaker 6: did a really nice job in Texas in the twenty
Speaker 6: twenty five class, and we're super excited for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 6: You know with coach Dad's a Texas guy, Coach Ronnie
Speaker 6: Palmer's a Texas guy. So we still have those Texas
Speaker 6: ties on our on our on our staff, which are
Speaker 6: going to be really important for us.
Speaker 2: To your point, Rich Rod used to say, uh, and
Speaker 2: we all know this. I've been here a long time,
Speaker 2: Troy grew up here probably yeah, Ty where you know,
Speaker 2: this is Tucson. People usually fly over Tucson to get
Speaker 2: to La or wherever. You know what I'm saying, it's
Speaker 2: it's not the destination place. But once they land, like
Speaker 2: you said, and they get to see the place, just
Speaker 2: get them here and they'll realize how cool this place is.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's something different right and and this is
Speaker 6: again no disrespect to those are great institutions, but they're
Speaker 6: bigger cities right there, the more metroplexus and and we're
Speaker 6: Tucson is it's u of AG. I mean, that's what
Speaker 6: people love and that's what people care about. And and
Speaker 6: it's a great city that you can you can live
Speaker 6: here and create a great network professionally, you know, that
Speaker 6: parallel path that we talked about earlier. So that's a
Speaker 6: big one is getting them, getting them on campus. You know,
Speaker 6: we're gonna have a ton of official visits coming up
Speaker 6: here the next handful of weeks where we're gonna have
Speaker 6: kids from all over where we really get to kind
Speaker 6: of show off the city and show off our schools.
Speaker 6: So we're excited about that.
Speaker 4: So you said you were in at UNLV and I
Speaker 4: read in the background bio you were at Western Michigan,
Speaker 4: I believe, before Arizona. What was it like adjusting to
Speaker 4: this Tucson weather, the Tucson summers for you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's the three years in Vegas health, right, so
Speaker 6: we got least with college football, as you guys know,
Speaker 6: brings you everywhere. I grew up in Florida, but in
Speaker 6: the Midwest and the West Coast. As I've gotten older,
Speaker 6: I've realized I'm more a fan of the desert heat.
Speaker 6: So it's it's nice not having to shuttle snow and
Speaker 6: get to work every day. So I'm I'm a shorts
Speaker 6: and foot flops to the office kind of guy. But
Speaker 6: I really enjoyed it. It's been but I've got two
Speaker 6: little kids, so they've they've really enjoyed the outdoors, the
Speaker 6: hiking and the campaign and that kind of stuff. So
Speaker 6: we've we've really enjoyed our time here some more.
Speaker 2: I'll leave this to be the last question because we've
Speaker 2: got to get out. But what's what's a nice day
Speaker 2: for you? And is there ever a slow day because
Speaker 2: you're probably always looking at film from somebody or out
Speaker 2: to seek somebody or whatever, because uh, you know, football
Speaker 2: nowadays is almost twenty four seven five, or is it
Speaker 2: it is?
Speaker 6: It is certainly in like the recruiting space, right, you know,
Speaker 6: with the coaches, there's a lot of the x's and o's,
Speaker 6: you know, but for recruiting for us, it's you know,
Speaker 6: we'll have a bunch of summer camps coming up in June,
Speaker 6: or we'll have prospects on campus and and then you
Speaker 6: look into the season, right, how are we going to
Speaker 6: you know, go through our cut up processes, which is
Speaker 6: how we make cutout taps on each kid and evaluate
Speaker 6: so it doesn't really stop. You know, July is a
Speaker 6: nice little break in the dead period, you know, before
Speaker 6: you get to August. But I love what I do.
Speaker 6: I really do. You know, I'm really humble for the
Speaker 6: opportunity to, like I said earlier, to be here and
Speaker 6: work in college football. It's something that I worked really
Speaker 6: hard to get here. But at the same time, like,
Speaker 6: if I can come to this building every day and
Speaker 6: get to be around the kid and be around the coaches,
Speaker 6: it's something that's really special that I definitely don't don't
Speaker 6: take for granted. So even the hardest day in my
Speaker 6: chair is really is really special.
Speaker 2: You get to do exactly what you wanted to do. Coach,
Speaker 2: thanks a bunch for joining us. Appreciate good to know you,
Speaker 2: and then the job.
Speaker 6: Of course, so I really appreciate it. If you guys
Speaker 6: ever need anything, let us know. And Breda you.
Speaker 2: Get our tapes and you can evaluate those later. Yes, sir,
Speaker 2: thanks coach, appreciate it. We got to go come back.
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Speaker 1: on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports fortune fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. Your Troy Hutcheson,
Speaker 2: grumpy Troy Okay Ray Sunshine Roy Ray, Sorry, take it
Speaker 2: and me your host. I was good to talk to him.
Speaker 2: It was good to find out what's going on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: every school does it. I'm sure that they go through
Speaker 2: tons of video and well and quests.
Speaker 4: Hear the name in GM, and you automatically thinks the
Speaker 4: Pro style and it's like, no, that it's very different,
Speaker 4: very different.
Speaker 2: And Arizona has a couple of those dudes, not GM,
Speaker 2: but another guy that helps uh Brennan. I'm sure the
Speaker 2: schools do, you know, just right hand and just to
Speaker 2: kind of let him do his coaching and the other
Speaker 2: people do other things.
Speaker 4: Chief of staff recruiting director GM. Right, No, who's the
Speaker 4: finance guy?
Speaker 5: Then if like like you said, because it's not like
Speaker 5: the Pro style, it's like very different.
Speaker 4: No, I'm sure there's a finance person there, I don't
Speaker 4: you think or just that's the at that they probably
Speaker 4: have like a finance person in terms of what they
Speaker 4: have in terms of nil what they can do. Oh okay,
Speaker 4: wouldn't he be the guy or he could probably be
Speaker 4: part of it. But I'm sure there's somebody out more
Speaker 4: more about the money.
Speaker 2: Tell me, tell me why the programs are going under financially.
Speaker 2: You got all these people, Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: We'll create a job do word, but it we got it, hey,
Speaker 4: transfer and nil. It's changed a lot, no question.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's of course has changed. It's not the
Speaker 2: team that I covered twenty five years ago. That's for
Speaker 2: damn sure.
Speaker 4: Imagine telling Dick Tomy you're gonna need a GM chief
Speaker 4: of staff recruiting director. He's gonna say, what the hell for?
Speaker 2: I got the stuff under control. Almost cussed this stuff
Speaker 2: on the guy. I don't need no right hand man.
Speaker 2: I know what I'm doing. You know I'm joking, of course.
Speaker 2: Well but I'm joking, of course because back in the
Speaker 2: day they just did what they did. You know, give
Speaker 2: me that film and let me see if he's good enough.
Speaker 2: Does he like to playing? He's like to win? I
Speaker 2: wanted gotta have winners. Does he eat nails for breakfast?
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, that's like the Georgia Patton of the Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So if anybody wants to call five to two, O
Speaker 2: four one, six, seventy four forty, give us a call.
Speaker 4: Let us know what's going on. Maybe you can refute
Speaker 4: or agree with.
Speaker 2: My boy Troy here on the softball program, and not
Speaker 2: much is going on another bise football, Just finish basketball.
Speaker 4: Baseball. They got the number four seed in the Big
Speaker 4: twelve tournament. Okay, that's another program. Don't get me started
Speaker 4: on Yeah. Yeah, well you've seen that more too, don't you.
Speaker 4: Or no, you haven't done not as much as baseball,
Speaker 4: I mean softball, but I know it's been successful in
Speaker 4: the past. Andy Lopez, Yeah, I'll say this, Andy Lopez
Speaker 4: was there for how many years? Oh, tennis, twelve, ten,
Speaker 4: twelve years and won a title, got to series, very competitive.
Speaker 4: How many college World Series did it get to? You
Speaker 4: just won? You don't want it in twelve? I think
Speaker 4: maybe another one, maybe another You ask me questions, but
Speaker 4: you know, Chip Hall's made I think the tournament every year.
Speaker 4: Maybe he missed it once. I don't know. We'll see
Speaker 4: what they do.
Speaker 2: Well, that's another program that has a long history and
Speaker 2: a good history, and other programs have gotten better too.
Speaker 2: You know, Troy, you're not gonna walk into a room
Speaker 2: and be the best looking man in the room all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 4: I could be. Well, let me.
Speaker 2: Tell you, let me tell you. Don't be a delusional
Speaker 2: you're part of the u ain't fandom. They go ahead,
Speaker 2: keep quiet.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say nothing. Did you have that in town?
Speaker 4: I just think it's very different for Arizona softball then
Speaker 4: it could be for yeah, let's say baseball. Let's say
Speaker 4: so her other and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. I get it's because it is
Speaker 2: a signature program.
Speaker 4: Here and you have everything in place that you need
Speaker 4: except for maybe nil again.
Speaker 2: And I okay, nil and pitching history. I mean, over
Speaker 2: the last ten fifteen years, it lost that luster. It
Speaker 2: just lost it. Tendrea didn't have that either. He lost
Speaker 2: it too with the pitching.
Speaker 4: He did, but his pitching was still substantially better than
Speaker 4: what they have right now. Well, it's okay.
Speaker 2: You know, I used to be thin and young too.
Speaker 4: Not so bunch anymore. I mean Stanford they were able
Speaker 4: to Nigi Kennedy again. I know she got the million
Speaker 4: dollar deal from Texas tack she's going back. Well, no,
Speaker 4: I'm saying that when she transferred from from Stanford to
Speaker 4: Texas tack right, the report was around a million dollars
Speaker 4: in terms of the transfer right. But the original recruitment
Speaker 4: of her, I mean she was in the middle of
Speaker 4: nowhere Kansas. Yeah, you know, Montana, outset Alabama, middle of nowhere, Kentucky.
Speaker 4: They were out there recruiting them. They lifted rocks, stuck
Speaker 4: up this, you know what I mean. But you're sticking
Speaker 4: in southern California. We got the Bathbusters, so see Batbusters.
Speaker 4: We're happy with that. Well, if they're not producing anymore
Speaker 4: and you're not getting in the top talent, I always
Speaker 4: see bat buses, you better start leaguing somewhere else.
Speaker 2: That sounds like a column call them at a nice
Speaker 2: little take here on the radio.
Speaker 4: I get it. I get it. Recruit other places than California.
Speaker 4: You have to give yourself more options, and they're not
Speaker 4: not as much as what they could. I mean, I
Speaker 4: don't think there was a player from the state of
Speaker 4: Texas on the roster. You can't tell me there's not
Speaker 4: softball talent in Texas.
Speaker 2: No, well, Texas Texas and m were pretty good. Some
Speaker 2: of the other ones were pretty good.
Speaker 4: Somewhere in the South. Again, it is the game of
Speaker 4: softball is growing somewhere in the South. Now. Ali skagg
Speaker 4: she was a top player in the state of Kentucky.
Speaker 4: She transferred to the state of Arizona, went to the
Speaker 4: u of A. I think she was probably going to
Speaker 4: the u of A before she came to Tucson and
Speaker 4: played at Iron Royd her rap last year in high school.
Speaker 4: But you got to do more of that. It's just
Speaker 4: too it's such a big game now to just stick
Speaker 4: to one area. No, of course not.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's that's they're probably trying that, just not
Speaker 2: having any success.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a question for her to be asked
Speaker 2: and for her to answer, you know, because I still
Speaker 2: think that Arizona has a name, but maybe not as
Speaker 2: named as everyone thinks.
Speaker 4: That they are. Well, for sure, they're no longer thought
Speaker 4: of as an Oklahoma or you.
Speaker 2: See, right, those are the good old days. But what
Speaker 2: was last time they wanted title? Oh?
Speaker 4: Seven oh seven?
Speaker 2: Okay, so little a little later than the men's basketball program.
Speaker 2: Do you feel the same way about Arizona basketball.
Speaker 4: I think Arizona basketball isn't what it used to be
Speaker 4: in the nineties, same conversation, But their talent draw is
Speaker 4: much higher than what softball has been doing over the
Speaker 4: last four years. And I think they're at a better
Speaker 4: spot too. I think they're in a better spot to
Speaker 4: actually compete for a national title compared to softball, where
Speaker 4: you're just trying to get to a Super Right now,
Speaker 4: I mean again outside of the her here the one.
Speaker 2: So so, had they gone to a Super would you
Speaker 2: still feel the same that you're talking right now?
Speaker 4: I'd give them a little bit more the way if
Speaker 4: they got to Super this year again they did failed
Speaker 4: and failed and failed. Yeah, at least make it competitive.
Speaker 4: Now they got there and they got smacked, run rolled
Speaker 4: in both games, now i'd be having this.
Speaker 2: So so in review of the men's basketball program. How
Speaker 2: did they do overall this season?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they did a good job because they
Speaker 4: were very competitive against Duke, and everybody thought Duke was
Speaker 4: the national championship level team. H It wasn't like they
Speaker 4: got smacked against Houston Thomas first.
Speaker 2: Don't you think that the last two or three games,
Speaker 2: the last two or three weeks of the Pro of
Speaker 2: the season, elevated the season and how you looked at
Speaker 2: it up until there was a point there where you're thinking,
Speaker 2: I'm not you specifically, but many thought, oh, this is
Speaker 2: not very good.
Speaker 4: They're not really well. Let's be honest. After that UCLA game,
Speaker 4: I was on the radio view and I said, I
Speaker 4: don't know they're going to make the tournament. You're talking
Speaker 4: about the December game. December game, I don't know if
Speaker 4: they're going to make the turn four and five, especially
Speaker 4: going into a top So when did it change?
Speaker 2: Had it would change only in the last month because
Speaker 2: they were still that same kind of Okay, what's happening.
Speaker 2: They went on that nice streak, but they hadn't played anybody,
Speaker 2: and then they got beat a few times. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: then I can't remember who they played twelve turnam, I
Speaker 2: will stay, I will stay here, and they want that
Speaker 2: that game here in the last second.
Speaker 4: And I think the big twelve tournament twelve tournament kind
Speaker 4: of started turning things around, and you got it. That's
Speaker 4: mid March it is again. I just don't think they
Speaker 4: ended up at the same place they did last year.
Speaker 4: The season before three sixteen they did, so there was
Speaker 4: but I'll give you this. There's more happy faces this
Speaker 4: year than there were last yearn the way the difference is,
Speaker 4: everybody thought Duke was gonna win that game, Like most
Speaker 4: people thought there was gonna win their game. Nobody thought
Speaker 4: in their right mind clubs, someone's going to be in Arizona.
Speaker 4: They thought, of course, of course, maybe they could give
Speaker 4: them a game, but Arizona should beat them. Get to
Speaker 4: a sweet sixteen, I mean Elite eight, sorry, Lade eight.
Speaker 4: And you underformed this one. You kind of overperformed because
Speaker 4: it was close and everybody, dude was going to just
Speaker 4: wallop Arizona. So I think there's a difference there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it turned out, you know, kind of rehab
Speaker 2: the team's perception, rehabbed Caleb Love's perception in the way
Speaker 2: he played last a few weeks, a few three.
Speaker 4: Weeks, Yeah, basically from the Big Ball Tournament on phenomenal.
Speaker 4: Well that's two yeah, two three weeks. Yeah. And first
Speaker 4: of all, you just again that talent, that's what I
Speaker 4: keep coming back. So they probably played to the level
Speaker 4: of what they were capable of. And that is that good?
Speaker 4: Is that good enough? I don't know, depends how loftier
Speaker 4: expectations are. And I know they're high here. I know
Speaker 4: they are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not trying to be a defender of her
Speaker 2: aora or or whatever you're trying to do. But no,
Speaker 2: right whatever, I have no idea what you're trying to
Speaker 2: do or say.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to defend either way. I think we've
Speaker 4: seen enough where it's time to start thinking about possibly
Speaker 4: a change.
Speaker 2: I saw a post like that on Facebook and I
Speaker 2: couldn't believe I saw that post. They were doing really well, seasons.
Speaker 2: It is what it is. They got to this point
Speaker 2: and I covered them, and when he first won the title,
Speaker 2: first one, two titles, I don't I don't won't go
Speaker 2: that far.
Speaker 4: I won't go that far.
Speaker 2: But but you can't send letters to Troy, No, no,
Speaker 2: send letters and emails to Troy. Don't send them to me.
Speaker 4: And nobody's getting my number. No, Yeah, hold on, I
Speaker 4: can find you here. They can call and say you Dubby. Oh,
Speaker 4: next week we're gonna have Mike Andre on the showy
Speaker 4: Mike my choice of this? What do you think that
Speaker 4: doesn't know what he's talking about? You get in the
Speaker 4: box and face I heard that, right, I still get
Speaker 4: the call from down shows.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. You remember that one
Speaker 2: that was good. Anybody want to call five too?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 4: How mush that we five minutes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I two four, one, six, seventy four forty
Speaker 2: did you go to the games where you disappointed where
Speaker 2: you're not?
Speaker 4: It was good, good weekend to watch softball, at least
Speaker 4: beautiful weekend. And that's the greatest thing in terms of
Speaker 4: it was on a softball. You host the regional, you
Speaker 4: host a super regional softball, whether you have all those teams,
Speaker 4: and yes, it's ninety five degrees during the day, but
Speaker 4: you get those lower games where it's like eighty eighty
Speaker 4: nine degrees. Last night, it was beautiful. It's funny. The
Speaker 4: pan to the uh pan, to the crowd. I don't
Speaker 4: think anybody was under fifty. I was gonna say I
Speaker 4: noticed something, would I would have fit right in, But
Speaker 4: you know what it was. It was louder than McHale.
Speaker 4: I heard. I heard it was pretty crazy. It was loud.
Speaker 4: It gets louder than mckail there right right, Chris is
Speaker 4: the music and you pipe in all that stuff. It's
Speaker 4: it's it's nice and you're outdoors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, I heard it was fantastic. The atmosphere.
Speaker 2: The team just didn't live up to that level of excitement.
Speaker 4: You know, some I'm going to be honest, some of
Speaker 4: the meanest crowds I've seen or have been at softball,
Speaker 4: women's basketball in terms of getting on the opponent. I'm
Speaker 4: just like, you say that once you tell, once you
Speaker 4: reach a certain age, try you become grumpy and you unfiltered. Yeah,
Speaker 4: what the hell They're gonna put me in prison?
Speaker 2: I tell you, guys, you don't turned out to be
Speaker 2: like the two muppet guys that are up in the balcony.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a bunch of those dudes, you know, Simon, Yeah,
Speaker 4: tell them. I don't give a crap. No, I mean
Speaker 4: some of the stuff that I've heard in those two sports,
Speaker 4: I'm like, did she really just say that about the
Speaker 4: player on the field or the player on the court. Wow,
Speaker 4: I'm laughing, but wow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a high school softball game, just commentating it,
Speaker 5: and it was Yeah, you hear some parents getting into
Speaker 5: it for sure. Getting on the players or the the
Speaker 5: players are sometimes you ever gone to a little Yeah
Speaker 5: you're married, you ever been to a little league game?
Speaker 4: I can't say literally, parents are crazy, man, I believe it.
Speaker 4: I mean, that was the whole conversation we had last
Speaker 4: week too. Yeah, yeah, right, we did remember that.
Speaker 6: It is what it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, second hour you got breaking news. Yeah, we'll
Speaker 4: get a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, and then that a nice little treat, right,
Speaker 2: Toby waka four fifteen seventeen. That'll be great just to
Speaker 2: talk to him. We don't really get those guys too often.
Speaker 2: Perfect timing.
Speaker 4: Right now he is back in New York? So oh
Speaker 4: is he's not? Okay? So okay the people that threw
Speaker 4: the trash bag at that Pacers guy.
Speaker 2: Probably he's gonna be did you you got I saw
Speaker 2: that over over the wire earlier? Are you ready to go? Okay,
Speaker 2: we have time. We had about a minute. We'll just
Speaker 2: talk to him more about, you know, the season, what's
Speaker 2: coming up, putt. He needs to work on things like that,
Speaker 2: how he was in Tucson, things like that. Okay, great,
Speaker 2: what not, let's just go