WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:03.439 This is I on the Ball with Steve Ravera on 2 00:00:03.520 --> 00:00:08.759 Fox Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services Insure 3 00:00:08.839 --> 00:00:10.560 your lost prized possessions. 4 00:00:13.240 --> 00:00:15.000 Thank good, enough to do and everybody, welcome to I 5 00:00:15.119 --> 00:00:18.160 on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm 6 00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:20.879 Steve Rivera and with me today on a Monday, Troy 7 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:25.079 Hutchesson of Go easycats dot Com. And we got our 8 00:00:25.079 --> 00:00:27.239 guy Ray here probably for a lot of the summer. 9 00:00:27.320 --> 00:00:27.519 Ray. 10 00:00:28.199 --> 00:00:32.640 Yeah, cool, cool, A lot of things happened over the weekend, right, 11 00:00:32.880 --> 00:00:38.000 smootball graduation, kids are gone, Ray, how men more years 12 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:40.920 agot twelve. You're gonna take it easy. Na, you already 13 00:00:41.000 --> 00:00:42.240 have been in the real world. You don't need to 14 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:43.200 go back in the real world. 15 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:44.399 I do. You know. 16 00:00:44.479 --> 00:00:46.359 It's fun, it's fun being in college, but you don't 17 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:47.520 make a lot of money there. 18 00:00:47.399 --> 00:00:52.119 So well you don't. I remember those days. Troy. You're 19 00:00:52.159 --> 00:00:52.880 still in college too. 20 00:00:52.880 --> 00:00:55.679 You're looking you gotta be like rat bye boy ro 21 00:00:56.240 --> 00:00:58.439 Troy here, he's on the twenty year plan. 22 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:01.840 Okay, yeah no, but you don't make a lot of 23 00:01:01.840 --> 00:01:05.599 money out, so it's a problem. That's true. 24 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:08.519 I don't have you graduates. It's gonna be a tough 25 00:01:08.719 --> 00:01:11.120 haul out there. Yeah, no one said it was going 26 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:14.000 to be easy. Guys, were you surprised this weekend in 27 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:14.840 terms of softball? 28 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:16.799 No, I don't know. 29 00:01:17.040 --> 00:01:18.799 I can't need to hear nor of there from me 30 00:01:18.840 --> 00:01:21.319 because I don't know enough about it. But I watched 31 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:24.640 them play yesterday. Obviously they played well the first game 32 00:01:24.680 --> 00:01:27.439 with the strong pitching of of tell. 33 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:28.280 Me her name was it? 34 00:01:28.760 --> 00:01:31.519 Yeah, and then they didn't go with her in the 35 00:01:31.519 --> 00:01:33.200 second game, which, of course I think you go with 36 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:36.480 your best person, right, and she got rocked nets I 37 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:37.959 got hurt early and. 38 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:39.599 Left her in too long. 39 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:43.079 Yeah. Well, I think that's the biggest thing with people talking, 40 00:01:43.200 --> 00:01:45.840 you know, or criticizing. Everybody has an answer, right, like 41 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:49.719 it's Scott, It's every sport there, because everybody knows that 42 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:51.959 they kept her in too long. The pitching, YadA YadA. 43 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:54.280 That was the downfall. They lost what thirteen games total? 44 00:01:54.359 --> 00:01:58.719 Fourteen games? Yeah, but in a really crappy conference. Okay, well, 45 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:01.439 I can only play. I can only play what I 46 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:02.319 put in front of me. 47 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:04.480 I get it. But compared to what they're using. 48 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:06.480 Well, then they well, then they weren't there. Then they 49 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:09.360 weren't ready to play in the tournament because the SEC 50 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:13.000 is what it was, right, Uh, and they like basketball, 51 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:15.240 right you? You you beg that they have this conference 52 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:17.479 because it gets you ready for the tournament. And people 53 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:19.960 said it got Arizona ready for the tournament such. 54 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:21.599 That it is. They finished in the sweet sixteen again. 55 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:24.560 And here now softball, if they were in a bad conference, 56 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:28.120 maybe minus a player a team or two, they weren't 57 00:02:28.120 --> 00:02:29.120 going to get any further than this. 58 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:32.759 Oklahoma and Texas were in that bad conference for a 59 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:36.680 long time and nominated. Yeah. Now, I'll say this Oklahoma State, 60 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:38.719 it's not what it used to be as usually they're 61 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:42.120 that other team there. Yeah, but I'm gonna be honest 62 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:44.639 after watching the third, the well, the seventh game, the 63 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:48.599 final game last night, in covering softball for a while, 64 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:51.479 it's one of the worst coach games I've ever seen. 65 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:54.599 The final game. The final game was what was best 66 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:57.800 base running blunders. I don't know why that early in 67 00:02:57.800 --> 00:03:01.120 the first Okay, still the same. I don't know what 68 00:03:01.159 --> 00:03:03.719 the heck you're doing there down by four, Yeah, with 69 00:03:03.879 --> 00:03:07.919 your power coming up to the plate. Just sloppy defense 70 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:10.840 in the infield. They had that ball get behind. I 71 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:14.159 think stratterard before she went to the mount into the circle, 72 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:17.080 which led to a couple of runs in that ending 73 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:20.199 as well, a little late polling out Devin nets and 74 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:23.120 then you bring Aisa, she gets blown up to finally 75 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:26.680 you bring in stratter and easy working for her. I 76 00:03:27.039 --> 00:03:29.800 just felt like it was a game where Caitlyn got 77 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:34.919 completely out coached. And I can't remember a game that 78 00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:38.120 poorly coach from Arizona. Have they lose Friday night? Was it? Friday? 79 00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:41.840 Kind of got blown out from the starting, Yeah, but 80 00:03:41.919 --> 00:03:44.719 the ole Miss kind of jumped out. That's what I'm saying. 81 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:45.879 They were playing catch. 82 00:03:45.719 --> 00:03:48.639 Up, yeah, or maybe they just weren't good enough. And 83 00:03:48.719 --> 00:03:52.120 sometimes sometimes teams, and I say this every now and again, 84 00:03:52.120 --> 00:03:54.080 and people look at me, sometimes you get beat by 85 00:03:54.159 --> 00:03:56.759 or better team and no matter how how good you 86 00:03:56.800 --> 00:03:59.039 looked or think you looked during the season, you're not 87 00:03:59.080 --> 00:03:59.919 as good as you think you are. 88 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:02.120 I don't think Ole Miss was the better team, though 89 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:05.960 I know they're moving on. I know they're moving on. Okay, 90 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:09.400 their resume would prove that wise, but go ahead, I don't. 91 00:04:09.439 --> 00:04:11.000 I don't think they were the better team. I think 92 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:15.879 the overarching theme of this is and we've been talking 93 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:18.519 about this for a long time. Arizona still doesn't have pitching. 94 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:20.800 Oh yeah, and they haven't had it forever. You can 95 00:04:20.839 --> 00:04:22.800 talk about they haven't had it forever. They haven't really 96 00:04:22.839 --> 00:04:25.120 had it since I say, ken zy Valor. But you 97 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:28.040 could argue Taylor McQuillan, who was in All Conference performer 98 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:33.920 back twelve. Elysidenum was there too. But they haven't had 99 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:38.399 decent pitching. I mean, their pitching seems to except for 100 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:40.240 this year. Devin had a very good year, but the 101 00:04:40.279 --> 00:04:41.759 last two years you can argue that with some of 102 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:44.439 the worst pitching errors on stop all history the last right, right. 103 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:50.040 And also recruiting well also, yeah, well your computer, you're 104 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:52.240 recruiting as good as you can because the good old 105 00:04:52.279 --> 00:04:52.839 days are garden? 106 00:04:52.920 --> 00:04:53.199 Are they? 107 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:56.800 Though? The Google days are guard Yeah, I'm not. I'm 108 00:04:56.800 --> 00:04:59.680 not saying the nineties the nineties are winning six titles 109 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:02.879 and and years long, right, but you're not even close 110 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:05.120 to being a team that should be in Oklahoma City 111 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:07.439 and no offense that can't low. But that first year 112 00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:10.040 they backed door their way into to make it. 113 00:05:09.959 --> 00:05:12.639 Sure, Well, no apologies, they shouldn't give you an apology. 114 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:15.439 But I don't disagree with you they And that's fine. 115 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:17.319 I mean it is on my resume. If I were them, 116 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:19.879 we got there. Don't bitch about how you got there. 117 00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:22.399 Uh and you were there, right, I was okay, So 118 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:25.160 they got there, they got you there, but they were 119 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:28.399 not that good compared to and yes, back in just 120 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:31.680 it was like the uh, the the Mike Dunlap, the 121 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:35.040 penalty year with those guys that got to the Street sixteen. Yeah, 122 00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:37.439 for sure, and it was it was the circum the 123 00:05:37.480 --> 00:05:40.639 doors opened for whatever reason. Yeah, and they got to 124 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:42.360 the Sweet sixteen, got their ass handed to him. But they 125 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:44.399 got there, and everybody talks it was a down here, 126 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:47.879 sure it was, but Sweet sixteen pretty damn good. Same 127 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:50.839 place Arizona got this year and last year or last year. 128 00:05:50.920 --> 00:05:52.879 But when is the recruiting had taken up. 129 00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:58.360 It looks those days, those days of Arizona being their 130 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:00.800 parents may know, but not anymore. 131 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:04.240 But I think you limit yourself when you're basically just 132 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:06.759 still recruiting the state of California. You're not going into Texas, 133 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:09.759 you're not going into the South. You're staying in California 134 00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:12.800 to stay in Arizona. You haven't expanded your recruiting pool, 135 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:14.879 your stadium is one of the best in the country 136 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:17.759 outside of maybe Oklahoma. You have tradition, you have the facilities, 137 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:20.759 you have the weather, okay, and I all, okay, you 138 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:21.920 can make up for it in another way. 139 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:26.399 Have you have you posed this question to the powers 140 00:06:26.399 --> 00:06:29.959 that be, the coaches, the assistant coaches, the AD or 141 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:31.800 not maybe not so much the AD now but in 142 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:35.959 the past, because it is what you're saying true. Is 143 00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:38.480 what you're saying true, and even off the record, you 144 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:40.079 don't have to tell me about the record stuff. But 145 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:43.839 what's the problem then if they can't get that done? 146 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:46.959 Well, I think it's coaching. 147 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:49.639 Do you think if they had a different company they 148 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:51.920 get they're not go If they do, it'd be so 149 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:52.560 shocking to me. 150 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:55.079 I don't think if they will, because she's. 151 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:57.560 Done really well, I don't think she has Holy crap, 152 00:06:58.839 --> 00:06:59.439 who are you? 153 00:06:59.519 --> 00:07:02.560 I don't think she has in what sense. I think 154 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:06.399 the program is not where it was when Andrea left. 155 00:07:06.439 --> 00:07:08.920 First of all, they had a Jazon infield, they got 156 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:11.519 to the Women's College World Series. They had pitching on 157 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:15.839 that staff, so he was recruiting at a higher level. 158 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:18.439 His final days were not as great as people think. 159 00:07:18.519 --> 00:07:21.560 I mean, he went to back back Women's College World 160 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:27.639 Series and teams that did back into that respect, they didn't. Yeah, no, 161 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:30.319 they didn't back into that. They hosted the super Regionals 162 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:35.720 his second last, Mississippi miss and then they they kind 163 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:39.120 of fumbled around the season his last year, but then 164 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:41.439 they got the draw of Arkansas. They got to the 165 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:43.879 Women's College World Series. But they were a very talented team. 166 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:45.600 They were top five, I think top ten team to 167 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:49.639 start that year, and then people graduated. She got talent 168 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:52.920 in Charlie's Pelacio is transferred out. They've had other transfers 169 00:07:52.959 --> 00:07:56.360 to How much does she make, you know, Kalin Low? 170 00:07:56.399 --> 00:07:57.240 I think it's very low. 171 00:07:57.560 --> 00:07:59.959 Okay, so okay, there's okay, So let's assume second she 172 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:02.839 no longer here. Who are they going to get that's 173 00:08:02.839 --> 00:08:03.639 going to be paid low? 174 00:08:04.319 --> 00:08:06.720 I think they were able to pay pay low because 175 00:08:06.720 --> 00:08:09.759 it was an assistant coach off the staff. I don't 176 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:12.000 think you had to spend big bucks. I think you 177 00:08:12.040 --> 00:08:14.920 could spend a little bit more to that degree. According 178 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:17.399 to Google two and twenty five thousand. Okay, yeah, that's 179 00:08:17.519 --> 00:08:20.720 very well, that's for the position. I can't remember what 180 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:24.839 was Candrea's final count, Probably around five hundred thousands around there. 181 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:29.279 But I mean the top paid coaches. Oklahoma coach, I 182 00:08:29.319 --> 00:08:32.879 can Yeah, she's making one point whatever her players are 183 00:08:32.879 --> 00:08:35.000 making that. Yeah, but I'm not saying you need to 184 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:38.600 do that. But there are coaches out there. Oh no, 185 00:08:38.879 --> 00:08:40.639 I think I think you could take a shot at 186 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:44.279 the Clemson coach who was with Hendrea for Team USA 187 00:08:44.320 --> 00:08:48.120 and did a good job at Stanford when he was there. Yeah, Ritman, 188 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:50.519 we went to college together. I think you could take 189 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:53.960 a shot at him. I think he's at the Arkansas coach, 190 00:08:53.960 --> 00:08:57.120 who I think has done a very good job there. Female. 191 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:00.600 I think there's probably some assistants out there cross the country. 192 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:03.120 I just I think Caitlin is a very good person, 193 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:08.399 very good, uh like inspirational type of I think there's 194 00:09:08.480 --> 00:09:09.480 that piece missing. 195 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:13.559 How is she in terms of getting on the girls, 196 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:17.759 like not motivating them, but getting on them, like let's go. 197 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:20.559 It's It's not the same as what it was coach, Oh. 198 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:22.480 No, no, of course not. They played differently. They played different 199 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:24.679 for him, like they played different for lut than they 200 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:27.039 did for Sean, And you know, Sean kind of scared 201 00:09:27.039 --> 00:09:27.840 them into painting hard. 202 00:09:27.960 --> 00:09:30.720 And I'm not trying to compare it to everybody's thinking 203 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:32.240 that that's not what I'm trying to do. But are 204 00:09:32.240 --> 00:09:34.840 you trying to do? I think the standards are higher 205 00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:37.679 than what the what I think the standards are higher 206 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:40.360 for hers on a softball and the expectations haven't been met. 207 00:09:40.919 --> 00:09:43.639 And I'm not saying you need to be number one 208 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:46.440 in the country year in a year. Are they realistic expectations? 209 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:48.879 I think they are. With everybody else getting better, I 210 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:53.919 think they are. Andrea his last contract. Look, I told 211 00:09:53.919 --> 00:09:56.279 you here there's no drug testing in this place. What 212 00:09:56.320 --> 00:10:00.279 was it? Yeah? I still that wasn't that much. Well 213 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:03.200 back in the day, when did he sign that? Yeah? 214 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:05.759 In comparison, but no, I mean, you have the facilities, 215 00:10:05.759 --> 00:10:07.080 you have the weather. 216 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:10.240 I won't argue any more than I've already argued with 217 00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:13.039 you because I don't know enough. But I know that 218 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:15.279 how good they were back in the day because I 219 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:17.279 was part of the covering the team and following him 220 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:21.399 a lot. Now not so much. It's hard to sustain that. Obviously. 221 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:24.000 You know, UCLA isn't the UCLA back in the day. 222 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:26.639 Duke isn't the same either, Uh. 223 00:10:26.919 --> 00:10:28.720 And it hurts him that you don't have the pac twelve. 224 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:32.679 Yeah yeah, yeah, So so what are you saying the 225 00:10:32.759 --> 00:10:35.840 record of forty whatever it was in thirteen, whatever it was, 226 00:10:36.840 --> 00:10:39.039 is you should have an asterix there. 227 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:42.000 I'm saying you hosted a region First of all, that 228 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:44.279 was the first time she's ever hosted a regional. Okay, 229 00:10:44.320 --> 00:10:47.679 it should be bare minimum. She's already missed a tournament. 230 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:51.000 You've had a hard time getting out of the regionals. 231 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:55.000 And this is Arizona soapotball, who's probably the second third 232 00:10:55.080 --> 00:10:57.960 best program in the history of the game. And yeah, 233 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:00.720 people are saying, oh, well, it's not the ninety Well no, 234 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:02.559 it's not the nineties, but you can still put on 235 00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:05.399 a good product out there on the field. What they 236 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:07.919 didn't put out a good product. I don't think it's 237 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:11.000 an extremely talented roster. I think it's a no, no, no, 238 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:15.039 that wasn't my question. The product winning all those games. Okay, 239 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:17.720 it's the regular season. What do you do in the postseason? 240 00:11:17.840 --> 00:11:19.639 Oh no, let me tell you. I'm the guy that 241 00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:22.080 it says matter it matters in March. Guess what in 242 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:23.279 softball it matters in May? 243 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:26.279 Exactly. I get it. But again, you're measured by that, 244 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:29.879 and that's just how it Arizona is and I just discussions. 245 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:31.759 Where did you go to lunch today? We should have 246 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:36.320 you go there more often. Uh, okay, we'll talk more 247 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:39.159 about this later. How much time we have we okay 248 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:40.159 not three minutes? 249 00:11:40.200 --> 00:11:40.440 Okay? 250 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:45.000 No, well okay, I uh, I don't feel as strongly 251 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:48.679 as you. I do understand your point. So maybe we'll 252 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:51.360 talk more about it after after we talked to our 253 00:11:51.399 --> 00:11:51.960 guy today. 254 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:58.679 What's his name, Gusky Crowd Crowley, he's the GM. Yeah, 255 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:00.480 we'll talk about what that all tails. 256 00:12:00.600 --> 00:12:03.159 You were kind of giving me a background of all 257 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:06.519 these people they have in the room and maybe five 258 00:12:06.519 --> 00:12:09.799 of the same guys doing the same thing. Because he's 259 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:12.840 the he's not he's the GM, but not the right 260 00:12:12.840 --> 00:12:15.440 hand man to to Brennan. 261 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:16.000 We got a call. 262 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:18.600 Let's go take this call real quick. Hello, you're on 263 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:21.120 the air nine on the ball. Who's this? 264 00:12:21.120 --> 00:12:23.159 This is guy Crowley and the GM at University of 265 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:23.440 Very Well. 266 00:12:23.480 --> 00:12:25.840 Oh, we're just a perfect timing coach. Hi, guys, guys, 267 00:12:25.840 --> 00:12:28.120 sorry about if we mispronounce your name there that that 268 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:28.799 is on us. 269 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:32.600 Yes, uh, let me let me let me say this coach. Uh, 270 00:12:32.879 --> 00:12:35.240 We're just gonna go to break to get you in 271 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:38.159 at because we were just thinking we go. We scheduled 272 00:12:38.200 --> 00:12:40.480 for three seventeen. Could you give us a quick call 273 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:44.279 back in about four minutes. That way you won't have 274 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:49.799 to stick it around and listen to our bs. We'll 275 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:51.559 call a little commercial break right now. 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