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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is the official, and i'd say official, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean official announcement that our YouTube channel is back online

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<v Speaker 1>after over a year and a half. We have finally

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<v Speaker 1>got our act together and we have a team that

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<v Speaker 1>is actually processing our feed and every week we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have a new subject, a new topic, a new guest

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<v Speaker 1>on our YouTube channel. So you have to go to

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube and just punch in Earth Ancients. You'll see the logo,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and click it. We're slowly ramping up. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we only have about five, maybe six new videos,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're bringing back the A listers. We're currently editing

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<v Speaker 1>Graham Hancock. This week's Randall Carlson Randall will be up

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday, the twenty six, could be earlier, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>going back. We have all the greats, Robert Temple, early

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<v Speaker 1>versions of John, Anthony West, Robert Schock, A listers, all

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<v Speaker 1>the top people, Chris Donne and so on and so on.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's been tough, tough. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>admit I've run into some bad luck. I had a

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<v Speaker 1>production company in London that was working on our videos.

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<v Speaker 1>They were purchased by another company and they didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>our material and so they dropped us, even though we

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<v Speaker 1>had over one hundred thousand likes and we were rocking it.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't like us, and so they dropped us without

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<v Speaker 1>really any fanfare, any transitional support. And it's funny because

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<v Speaker 1>when you have somebody editing your work, you got to

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<v Speaker 1>be really careful who you're working with because they could

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<v Speaker 1>edit out some important material. So to have a team

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<v Speaker 1>in place that is kind of understanding of your material,

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<v Speaker 1>they won't edit out key details, they will make the

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<v Speaker 1>product better. That is a challenge. And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say the team of Face Sale Parves and everyone who

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<v Speaker 1>works at his company, facil You guys rock and you

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<v Speaker 1>are a wonderful addition to the earth Ansians family. And

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate you and what you're doing. So when

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<v Speaker 1>you hear me acknowledge face All at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>every program, you'll know who I'm talking about. And he

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<v Speaker 1>happens to be in Pakistan. I'm here in San Francisco, California,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love that. You know, a few years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, international trade or international consultants were iffy, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is part of the growth. This is part of

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<v Speaker 1>international trade working with other companies and trusting that they'll

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<v Speaker 1>do a good job. And I got to tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>Fasil has done a wonderful job. I trust him implicitly,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is so talented. We're going to do the

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<v Speaker 1>best of Graham Hancock, the best of Randall Carlson. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do see some of these best of because remember

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<v Speaker 1>Earth Ancients was launched in twenty fourteen, in the infancy,

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<v Speaker 1>or I should say during the infancy of podcasting. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't start doing the zoom until twenty twenty, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we won't have anything before twenty twenty. But we

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<v Speaker 1>all have some fantastic early interviews with some of the

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<v Speaker 1>most brilliant, brightest and wonderfully and insightful guests that Earth

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<v Speaker 1>Ancients has had over the years, and we're slowly repopulating

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<v Speaker 1>these the channel so that you get a sense of

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<v Speaker 1>the past, you can get a sense of the present,

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<v Speaker 1>and in some cases we have people that are speaking

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<v Speaker 1>about the future.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>One area that I am still working on is getting

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<v Speaker 1>Destiny up and running in the manner because we've been

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<v Speaker 1>recording Destiny around the same amount of time twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>and there are some brilliant people on Destiny, and I

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<v Speaker 1>consider Destiny our little sister, because it came out of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the work we have done with Earth ancients,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you really follow Destiny closely, you'll know that

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<v Speaker 1>it's a wonderful support for Earth ancients. It's a wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>addition to Earth ancients because in many cases it is

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<v Speaker 1>about the subtleties of our past. The meditation practice is

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<v Speaker 1>understanding the physiology, understanding how our ancestors walk the planet

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<v Speaker 1>and use psychic abilities, understood the energetics of the Earth

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<v Speaker 1>simply by closing their eyes and being more in touch

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<v Speaker 1>with nature. And so Destiny is wonderful because we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about DMT, we're talking about ayahuasca. When I had Graham

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<v Speaker 1>Hancock on the program presenting information on Visionary at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>that was all about ayahuasca and his journeying seventy plus

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<v Speaker 1>times on ayahuasca. So that's a critical, critical part of

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<v Speaker 1>the program. So my point is that we're not quite

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<v Speaker 1>up to speed with Destiny. We are still building a website,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would like to fully represent the guests with

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<v Speaker 1>its own YouTube channel. So but we're mostly known, I

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<v Speaker 1>should say, Cliff Dunning myself, yours truly is known mostly

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<v Speaker 1>for Earth Ancients, and Earth Ancients is an international phenomenon,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's you know, it's very fitting that

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<v Speaker 1>we have a new channel, with a new team and

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<v Speaker 1>with a whole new brand. The introduction, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>for people who want to know what the introduction, the

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<v Speaker 1>music at every at the beginning of very show is

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<v Speaker 1>it's called Atlantis and it's a studio artist. You can

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<v Speaker 1>actually look it up and find it. It's called Atlantis

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<v Speaker 1>by Olive Music. I think it's a French band there,

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<v Speaker 1>studio artist, and I think you can actually order a

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<v Speaker 1>copy of it. It's studio music, though there's it's not

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<v Speaker 1>something you want to play all the time. I took

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<v Speaker 1>only a few seconds of it. It's running at two

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<v Speaker 1>minutes forty five seconds, so it kind of repeats itself.

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<v Speaker 1>It's made for commercials. So if you're really desperate for

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<v Speaker 1>a copy, send me an email. Send it to Earth

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<v Speaker 1>Agents the number four of the letter. You a Gmail,

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<v Speaker 1>and I promise to get it back to you. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get you a copy that you can listen to. So

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. We are officially on YouTube and it's

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<v Speaker 1>getting it's growing on a daily basis, on a weekly basis,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will be announcing today's guest is Randall Carlson.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a ton of visual items including graphs, photographs,

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<v Speaker 1>and images to promote his talk today, and it's always

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<v Speaker 1>fun to have Randall. We haven't had Randall on for

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<v Speaker 1>about a year. He was scheduled to be part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Cosmic Summit team of guests, but we couldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>him on quite at the same time, so we are

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<v Speaker 1>presenting him today and I want to mention that he

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<v Speaker 1>is talking about some things that are a little different,

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<v Speaker 1>most notably this turid meteor stream, which I've only learned

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<v Speaker 1>about recently in the last year, and the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>Earth passes through this twice a year, twice a year year.

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<v Speaker 1>And you'll hear that Randall is sounding the alarm for

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<v Speaker 1>more awareness of this stream because it's likely to have

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<v Speaker 1>hit once about sixty six million years ago that wiped

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<v Speaker 1>out the dinosaurs and caused it was a terminating event.

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<v Speaker 1>If there were human like civilizations or groups, they were destroyed,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as the MegaFon of the big animals, pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much the dinosaurs too. Everything was destroyed. It was it

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<v Speaker 1>was terminating. Obviously, there were enough of these early hominin

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<v Speaker 1>people or beings that we could reboot. But again we

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<v Speaker 1>went through the stream, this toward media stream again around

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<v Speaker 1>nine thousand, five hundred BC hundred twelve thousand, seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, and it disturbed. We got nailed with another

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<v Speaker 1>their asteroid that ended the Younger Driest definitely wiped out

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<v Speaker 1>a great deal of animal life, and we're gonna learn

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<v Speaker 1>all about that today and why it's important to be

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<v Speaker 1>more aware of passing through this and really being prepared,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we kind of end the show on that

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<v Speaker 1>on that theme. So today's program is the Great Upheaval,

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<v Speaker 1>and my guest is Randall Carlson, so he's good at checking.

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<v Speaker 1>With Randall Carlson. We missed Randall at the Cosmic Summit recently.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the keynote there. From all indications, he rocked

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<v Speaker 1>the boat as he always does, and people were just

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<v Speaker 1>astounded at his material. Today's theme with Randall is the

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<v Speaker 1>Great Upheaval, and we'll get to exactly what that means shortly.

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<v Speaker 1>But Randall is a what you can consider a rogue

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<v Speaker 1>geologist who's traveling the country constantly. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>if you ever want to get a sense of what

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<v Speaker 1>has happened to our planet, join when Randall's tours are

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<v Speaker 1>excellent and he goes all over the United States pointing

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<v Speaker 1>out geological disasters front and center. So hey, Randal, good

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<v Speaker 1>to see you. Man, how you been.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been bright.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to see you, Cliff fantastic. Hey, how was a

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<v Speaker 1>cosmic summit? What's your What was your impression?

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<v Speaker 2>My impression is it just overwhelming? You know, don't have

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<v Speaker 2>it really well? I gave it was in a ninety

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<v Speaker 2>minute presentation and then on I think that was on Sunday, Saturday,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Monday I did a three hour workshop for

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<v Speaker 2>anybody who wanted to take it on.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you did a special presentation on Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I did a class. It was like a

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<v Speaker 2>classroom on sacred geometry.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I took people through some of the preliminary drawing exercises.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It's funny because George Howard does a good job.

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<v Speaker 1>He makes sure that everything is streamed and so we

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of people that listen to Earth the

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<v Speaker 1>Ancients from around the world that actually just dial in

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<v Speaker 1>and capture the streaming. So that's really a good idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is. And you know, the people that come together,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a broad spectrum of people from hardcore, solid academic scientists. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>all the way to more. I guess you know what

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<v Speaker 2>you consider a fringe, although what used to be pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much you know, defined as fringe isn't so fringe anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like Graham Hancock says, everything keeps getting older,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, there's constantly new discoveries that are hard

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<v Speaker 2>to keep up with, you know, that are really changing

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<v Speaker 2>our own understanding of the past. And there's a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot more to it than was assumed even a generation

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<v Speaker 2>or two ago. You know, the human past on planet Earth,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know you of all people are well aware

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<v Speaker 2>of this is a little much deeper and much more

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<v Speaker 2>complex than the textbook versions of prehistory.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet yet archaeologists have a really hard stop when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to pre civilization prehistory, and so you're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>cultures that may have been around prior to what we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about today, the younger Dreest hypothesis. Before

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<v Speaker 1>we move on, did you get a chance to see

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<v Speaker 1>the bell collection of a stone artifacts that he brought

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<v Speaker 1>with him the vase.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, and i'd actually see you those when I

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<v Speaker 2>visited him in Florida at his Oh, you've actually been okay. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So he he he had him in a a in

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<v Speaker 2>a secured room and let me go in there and

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<v Speaker 2>along with my buddy Mike Robertson, who you know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>the the who does the how Tube. He was with me,

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<v Speaker 2>and so he matt led us into the room there

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<v Speaker 2>and we were able to handle the vases.

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<v Speaker 1>And oh, you actually picked him up. Did you put

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<v Speaker 1>on some gloves just before you could touch him or what?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I didn't really I yeah, I asked him, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when we can, I can I take this vase when

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<v Speaker 2>we go in to do the interview. Maybe I could

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<v Speaker 2>have some coffee in here and see, No, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>ask him that. So, yeah, it's impressive. I mean they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're very highly polished, very very accurate, precision made. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know enough about pottery and that side of

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<v Speaker 2>the thing to have much of an opinion other than

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<v Speaker 2>the fact it seems to me that you know, people

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<v Speaker 2>like Ben van Kirkwick and who's the other guy who's

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<v Speaker 2>been doing a lot of work on there, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>You Mark Young?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Mark Young?

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<v Speaker 1>Because he has a couple of pieces that he's got

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<v Speaker 1>years ago and he's presenting him personally.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean, do.

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<v Speaker 1>You think they were cut on a lathe Does it

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<v Speaker 1>look like they are? Definitely sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Does look like it to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like a machine cut of some kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they do look like their precision machine made. I

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<v Speaker 2>have a hard time understanding how those vases could be

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<v Speaker 2>made by hand. It's just yeah. But again, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>an expert in that. So you know, if I had

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<v Speaker 2>been looking at lots of pottery, lots of vases and

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<v Speaker 2>things like that over the years and had a comparison

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<v Speaker 2>in my mind, I might be able to say, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this one's obviously made by hand, and this one is

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<v Speaker 2>very much more precise. Yeah, but I don't have that

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<v Speaker 1>But I know, I'm just curious because that was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a highlight of the conference, and George Howard, the producer,

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<v Speaker 1>had mentioned it. I was like, I couldn't get myself

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted to see those. Hey, let's talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>great upheaval. This is such a compelling topic. One thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't realize is that our planet Earth goes

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<v Speaker 1>through this. I guess it's called torred meteor stream twice yearly,

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<v Speaker 1>and for the most part the meteors and other solid

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<v Speaker 1>objects are so small that they burn up an Earth's atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's the feeling, your feeling and a few other

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<v Speaker 1>people's feelings that during this impact. This is where this

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<v Speaker 1>terminating meteor came from.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, okay, so a couple of things here. Young,

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<v Speaker 2>let's some sketch out the broad picture for people listening.

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<v Speaker 2>The younger driest boundary, I mean, which has been known

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<v Speaker 2>about for decades but never had a really satisfactory explanation.

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<v Speaker 2>The more they begin to learn about the younger Dryest boundary,

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<v Speaker 2>the weirder it got. And finally somebody says, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>think we need to broaden our perspective. And so in

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and seven a paper came out. It was

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<v Speaker 2>lead author was Richard Firestone, Alan West, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>there was seventeen co authors, including George Howard I think

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<v Speaker 2>his name was on that paper as well. Where they

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<v Speaker 2>begin to look at this well defined layer, can in

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<v Speaker 2>a minute here we can pull up so people can

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<v Speaker 2>see what actually defines that layer. It's called the black mate.

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<v Speaker 2>You've heard of that, Yeah, Now there are black mats

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<v Speaker 2>that are basically they are creating in environments where there's moisture,

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<v Speaker 2>where algae blooms, and so there are different black matte

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<v Speaker 2>layers with different dating, but there is a very prominent

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<v Speaker 2>one at the Younger Drives boundary, and so they took

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<v Speaker 2>a closer look at that, and what they found there

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<v Speaker 2>was proxies for impact for an impact of some kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a cosmic object, an asteroid or a comet or

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<v Speaker 2>something in between. Like we now know that the whole

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<v Speaker 2>definition of comet an asteroid has gotten very plastic, because

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<v Speaker 2>used to be they were very distinct objects in space.

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<v Speaker 2>But now what's happened there's a lot of hybrids and

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<v Speaker 2>there's almost a continuum of objects. There are comet like

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<v Speaker 2>asteroids and there are asteroid like comets. So whatever it was,

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<v Speaker 2>and the critics of the hypothesis, one of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that they kept emphasizing was that the proxies you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean by a proc see in other words,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not seeing the impact itself for the actual object.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have to look at the secondary consequences. For example,

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<v Speaker 2>if you have diamonds, nanodiamonds that are only created under

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<v Speaker 2>extremely high pressure, right, that's a proxy, So you go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>there had to be something here. We don't see the

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<v Speaker 2>actual object, but we see the effects of that object,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's a proxy. A proxy might be little marble

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<v Speaker 2>like spherals that form when you have a hypervelocity impact.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that it does is it rapidly

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<v Speaker 2>melts not only itself but the target material that it

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<v Speaker 2>crashes into, and that will create a vapor, and when

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<v Speaker 2>that vapor cools and crystallizes out, it'll rain back to

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<v Speaker 2>Earth and you'll get these small little microspherals. They're very shiny.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a proxy. And you have metals platinum group metals

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<v Speaker 2>that are rare in the surface of the Earth but

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<v Speaker 2>abundant in asteroids, and meteors like a radium and platinum, osmium, ruthenium,

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<v Speaker 2>and so if you see, and this is how they

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<v Speaker 2>discovered back in seventy nine to eighty when the scientists

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<v Speaker 2>Walter Alvarez and his father and their team discovered that

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<v Speaker 2>there had been an impact at the KT boundaries. It's

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<v Speaker 2>called that's the one sixty six million years ago where

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<v Speaker 2>the dinosaurs went extinct. For years and years, the question

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<v Speaker 2>had been what caused the extinction of the dinosaurs. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>so Walter Alvarez and his team, they were looking at

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<v Speaker 2>this boundary layer very kind of in a way similar

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<v Speaker 2>to the Younger Dryas boundary layer, except separated by sixty

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<v Speaker 2>six million years, right, But they're looking at this boundary layer,

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<v Speaker 2>and they wanted to know over this little thick layer,

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<v Speaker 2>they want to know, Okay, how long did it take

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<v Speaker 2>for this layer here to be deposited. Was it a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of days or was it a couple of centuries

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<v Speaker 2>or what was it? So they knew that there's a

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<v Speaker 2>steady rain of cosmic material, a gentle, steady rain of

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<v Speaker 2>microscopic cosmic material to the Earth from space. Right, Iridium

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<v Speaker 2>is one of those things that comes down in this

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<v Speaker 2>cosmic dusting that's taking place constantly even as we speak.

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<v Speaker 2>But so what they were going to do is they

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<v Speaker 2>were going to look at the iridium and try to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out because they pretty much assumed the rate at

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<v Speaker 2>which the iridium dust is accreating to the Earth. But

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<v Speaker 2>then they looked there and they realized that, wait a second,

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<v Speaker 2>this is like more than one hundred times more dense

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<v Speaker 2>than the background amount. So just so right there at

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<v Speaker 2>that kt boundary, you have this big spike of iridium

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<v Speaker 2>above it, it goes back to the background, which is

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<v Speaker 2>less than a hundredth and below it. So you've this

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<v Speaker 2>much iridium below it, you've got this much iridium above it,

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<v Speaker 2>and then in that one little little naire layer you've

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<v Speaker 2>got a huge amount of a radium. So they contacted

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<v Speaker 2>their colleagues around the world and to go, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>go back and take a look at that KT boundary

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<v Speaker 2>and see if there's an iridium spie. So there was

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<v Speaker 2>scientists in Denmark and scientists in New Zealand that were

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<v Speaker 2>early on. They go and they found the KT boundary

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<v Speaker 2>in Denmark and they looked at it, and sure enough,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a huge iridium spie in New Zealand. They

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<v Speaker 2>looked huge iridium spike. Well over the next year or two,

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<v Speaker 2>sites all over the world from that sixty six million

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<v Speaker 2>year dinosaur killing era all had this cosmic metal. So

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<v Speaker 2>then you sort of reverse engineer and you go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it looks like the entire planet got dusted with a radium.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we know the percentage the content of iridium that's

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<v Speaker 2>say in an asteroid, right, we know how much is

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<v Speaker 2>in a meteorite. So in order to get enough iridium

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<v Speaker 2>to dust the whole world. How big of an asteroid

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<v Speaker 2>do you need to deliver that volume of iridium? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the calculations were about a six mile in diameter asteroid.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, if you've got a six mile in

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<v Speaker 2>diameter asteroid coming in at you know, say fifteen miles

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<v Speaker 2>per second, Think about fifteen miles per second that thing

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<v Speaker 2>is moving it, you know, ten to ten to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>times the speed of a high power for high powered

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<v Speaker 2>rifle bullet. It's the size of Mount Everest. Right. Boom, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that was it. That's set into motion this whole set

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<v Speaker 2>of feedbacks that it looks like that ultimately took out

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<v Speaker 2>the dinosaurs. And it may have not been overnight, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was probably it was in a very very short

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<v Speaker 1>And you're telling me that's a planetary wide event. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what they call a true terminating event.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a terminating event. Yes. Now, the event of younger

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<v Speaker 2>Dryest Boundary, which is now dated to just a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit younger than twelve nine hundred years, has similarities and

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<v Speaker 2>parallels with the dinosaur killing event, but on a smaller scale.

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<v Speaker 2>Because if a six mile asteroid cliff had struck the

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<v Speaker 2>Earth twelve nine hundred years ago. We wouldn't be having

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<v Speaker 2>this conversation today. In fact, we wouldn't even be here

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<v Speaker 2>because human beings, unless they had figured out how to

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<v Speaker 2>get into space, wouldn't have survived an event of that severity.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it was just it was worldwide. There was

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<v Speaker 2>worldwide firestorms, There were vulcanism on a huge scale that

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<v Speaker 2>was triggered. There was seismic responses like earthquakes ten to

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred times more powerful than anything we've experienced in

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<v Speaker 2>modern times. The list of acid rain with a of

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<v Speaker 2>like one, so you know, it's like battery ass a

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<v Speaker 2>rainstorm of battery acid. Then then there was the cosmic

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<v Speaker 2>winter that you know, there was so for decades. Then

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<v Speaker 2>the whole planet froze over. I mean, yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 2>really bad time to be alive. Now, that's sixty six

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<v Speaker 2>million years ago, the younger, dryest boundaries, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit less than twelve nine hundred years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not of the same scale, and yet relative

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<v Speaker 2>to what we've experienced in modern civilization and since the

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<v Speaker 2>rise of modern science, it was extreme. It was an

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<v Speaker 2>extreme event in its own right, and the more we

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<v Speaker 2>learn about it, the more widespread it gets, like at

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<v Speaker 2>first it was maybe just regional to North America. Well

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, then then evidence is being found in Chile,

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<v Speaker 2>in Argentina, in Patagonia, even looks like in Antarctica. Now

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<v Speaker 2>it's being found recently, younger, driest evidence was found in Siberia.

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<v Speaker 2>So it looks like it's worldwide.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not considered a terminating event because there obviously

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<v Speaker 1>was some humanoids that were left. It killed most of

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<v Speaker 1>the North American according to the writing the North American

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<v Speaker 1>megafund of the big land animals, but obviously other parts

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<v Speaker 1>of Europe and Asia and perhaps the South American area

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<v Speaker 1>weren't affected as much, were they.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, that's a very good question, Cliff. So we

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<v Speaker 2>can consider that the loss of species is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be directly a function of the loss of habitat. If

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<v Speaker 2>you destroy the habitat that the particular species is adapted

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<v Speaker 2>to and survives in and on that habitat, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>very good chance that they will go extinct if they

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<v Speaker 2>don't adapt. And what we see is that both North

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<v Speaker 2>and South America lost about seventy five percent, about three

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<v Speaker 2>quarters of their megafaunal species by the younger dryas. It

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<v Speaker 2>looks like some of the extinctions might have started a

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<v Speaker 2>little earlier. There may have been a few survivals past

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<v Speaker 2>the younger dryests, but they died out shortly thereafter. But

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<v Speaker 2>it looks like the younger dryat is pretty much the

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<v Speaker 2>boundary where you see the final termination of the megafauna.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's define megafauna anything more than about one hundred pounds

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<v Speaker 2>in body weight, so that would qualify youman Eyecliff, as

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<v Speaker 2>being megafauna you were in case you were wondering. So

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<v Speaker 2>so three quarters, roughly three quarters now go to Eurasia,

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<v Speaker 2>about thirty five percent go to Africa, about ten depends

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<v Speaker 2>on who's counting, but ten, maybe fifteen percent. So what

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<v Speaker 2>it looks like is the western hemisphere was more severely impacted,

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<v Speaker 2>say than Europe and Asia and Africa for sure, the

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<v Speaker 2>northern hemisphere probably more severely impacted than the southern hemisphere.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that North America was probably ground zero for

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<v Speaker 2>a series of impact events. But to me, what you

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<v Speaker 2>can extrapolate from that is that, again, if the species

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<v Speaker 2>habitat loss would have been in North and South America.

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<v Speaker 2>And I used to think that North America had the

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<v Speaker 2>most species loss, but South America is right there. They're

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<v Speaker 2>very close in some course, and even with some estimates,

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<v Speaker 2>South America might have lost a few more species in

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<v Speaker 2>North America. And I haven't studied the geology and the

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<v Speaker 2>planetary transitions in the region of South America like I

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<v Speaker 2>have North America. But when we look at Africa, look

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<v Speaker 2>at the Serengate Plaine and think about the megafauna. That's

425
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<v Speaker 2>the greatest concentration of megafauna on Earth today. Seenate plane.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got the elephants and giraffes, and hippos and rhinos,

427
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<v Speaker 2>and you know all these animals. Buffalo, You've got list

428
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<v Speaker 2>goes on and on right. You've got lions, You've got cheetahs,

429
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<v Speaker 2>You've got all of the and those basically are left

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<v Speaker 2>over from the Pleistocene, the epoch that was ended with

431
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<v Speaker 2>the Younger dryas the unger biases. That's sort of the boundary,

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<v Speaker 2>the marker for this transition between two and a half

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<v Speaker 2>million years of the Pleistocene into the eleven six hundred

434
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<v Speaker 2>years of the Holocene. And you think about the Holocene

435
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<v Speaker 2>that's the geological term for it. The Holocene is basically

436
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<v Speaker 2>where we see the rise of civilation. You know, and

437
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<v Speaker 2>think about this cliff if you've got you go back

438
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<v Speaker 2>eight to ten thousand years and this is when you

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<v Speaker 2>see what they call it the agricultural revolution, one of

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<v Speaker 2>these great transitions from a hunter gatherer migratory lifestyle into farming. Right, Okay,

441
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<v Speaker 2>So this occurs in that millennia or two, right after

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<v Speaker 2>the Younger drives and we see transition to farming. We

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<v Speaker 2>see the domestication of animals on a wide scale. Again

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<v Speaker 2>within that same meliu, we see the dispersion of languages.

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<v Speaker 2>If you study languages in the language tree, you see

446
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<v Speaker 2>that that major dispersion of languages takes place in that

447
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<v Speaker 2>same window of a couple of millennium When did we

448
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<v Speaker 2>see the first urban complexes arise in a few isolated

449
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<v Speaker 2>places between seven and eight thousand years ago, we really

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<v Speaker 2>see the major flowering of civilization, for example in Egypt

451
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<v Speaker 2>or Samaria along the Tigris Euphrates River valley or the

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<v Speaker 2>Indus River valley in that part of the world, or

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<v Speaker 2>in you know, there was a rise of civilization along

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<v Speaker 2>the Amazon at that time Graham Hancock has documented that

455
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<v Speaker 2>quite well, we see the very first monumental earthwork architecture

456
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<v Speaker 2>in America during that same few centuries. That is putting

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<v Speaker 2>us between forty five hundred years ago and five thousand

458
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<v Speaker 2>years ago. What's becoming a parent now, Cliff. The evidence

459
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<v Speaker 2>is pointing to the fact that, just like there were

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<v Speaker 2>many species that went extinct, you do not think about this.

461
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<v Speaker 2>You don't go in and exterminate three quarters of all

462
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<v Speaker 2>species and in a quarter that's remaining is completely unscathed.

463
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<v Speaker 2>And in fact, think about the near extinction of the

464
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<v Speaker 2>American bison. Okay, so roamed there was millions of them,

465
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<v Speaker 2>you know, in the early eighteen hundreds. Now you get

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<v Speaker 2>to the turn of the century and there's only a

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<v Speaker 2>few hundred. Now you can go in, of course, into

468
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<v Speaker 2>the supermarkets and buy bison berger right. Yeah, But here's

469
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<v Speaker 2>the thing. If we're looking back, if we're looking back

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<v Speaker 2>from ten thousand years into the future, you might never

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<v Speaker 2>know that the bison came within an inch of becoming extinct. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>You could easily miss that. You'd yeah, there was millions

473
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<v Speaker 2>of them there, and hey, look here, one hundred and

474
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<v Speaker 2>fifty years later, we see evidence that they're you know,

475
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<v Speaker 2>they're eating bison burgers, right, But think how easy it

476
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<v Speaker 2>would be to miss the fact that the American bison

477
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<v Speaker 2>almost went completely extinct but then rapidly recovered. You know,

478
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<v Speaker 2>once the conditions change and whatever forces were driving that mortality,

479
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<v Speaker 2>that changes and so now the species can quickly recover.

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<v Speaker 2>So my point is, if you extrapolate from that, there

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<v Speaker 2>was probably a near extinction of all species, like in

482
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<v Speaker 2>North America. You know, let's let's take moose or grizzly bear.

483
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<v Speaker 2>There were grizzly bears during the ice stage, but they

484
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<v Speaker 2>didn't go extinct. There were horses in North America, and

485
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<v Speaker 2>they did go extinct in North America, but not in Eurasia. Right.

486
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<v Speaker 2>But here's what I'm getting at, bring it home. Do

487
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<v Speaker 2>you think that events that were that severe that could

488
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<v Speaker 2>wipe out three quarters And you've got to talk about

489
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<v Speaker 2>if you're talking about mammoths, if you're talking about saber

490
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<v Speaker 2>toothed cats, the giant ground slaws, dire wolves, the giant

491
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:36.759
<v Speaker 2>camels that roam the southern United States, the giant beavers,

492
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:40.039
<v Speaker 2>everything's big, right, the giant Armadello's. If you look at

493
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<v Speaker 2>all of these creatures, right, They're all completely gone. There

494
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<v Speaker 2>couldn't be even a single mating pair left. Every single

495
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:51.680
<v Speaker 2>individual mammoth had to be killed, had to be destroyed.

496
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<v Speaker 2>Now here's the thing I'm getting at. The evidence is

497
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<v Speaker 2>now showing pretty conclusively that there was a culture called

498
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<v Speaker 2>the Clovis culture, which I know you've heard of. The

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<v Speaker 2>Clovis culture. They're the They occupied North America roughly three

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<v Speaker 2>to four hundred years prior to the Younger Dryas. Where

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<v Speaker 2>they came from is an open question. What happened to me,

502
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<v Speaker 2>because there was over fifty Clovis sites around unglaciated North

503
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:25.480
<v Speaker 2>America that became completely unoccupied post Younger Dryas, So there's

504
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<v Speaker 2>two questions where they come from. What happened to them? Well,

505
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<v Speaker 2>I think what happened to them was the Clovis culture

506
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<v Speaker 2>became extinct. Most of them were killed off by the

507
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<v Speaker 2>same catastrophes that wiped out the wooly mammoths and the

508
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:40.440
<v Speaker 2>rest of the megafaunam Now, and this is showing up

509
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:42.960
<v Speaker 2>all over the world. We're seeing evidence that there was

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<v Speaker 2>a popular, major population crash coming out of the Younger Dryas, right,

511
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<v Speaker 2>and the next three four or five thousand years, I

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<v Speaker 2>think what the evidence is now showing is that just

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<v Speaker 2>like the bar con bison once recovered, human species began

514
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<v Speaker 2>to recover, but it took three to four thousand years.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason we see this flowering of civilization all

516
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<v Speaker 2>in that Meliu between forty five hundred and five thousand

517
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<v Speaker 2>years ago is because it essentially took that one. You're

518
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<v Speaker 2>not going to build monumental architecture if you don't have

519
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:22.519
<v Speaker 2>a labor force. You got to bran. There's got to

520
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:26.360
<v Speaker 2>be more people and to do to undertake something like that,

521
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:28.800
<v Speaker 2>you have to have enough people that there's a whole

522
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<v Speaker 2>segment of society that's providing the food, the clothes, the

523
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:37.559
<v Speaker 2>shelter for the for the labor that is building the

524
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<v Speaker 2>temples in the monumental earthworks in North America and South

525
00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:45.519
<v Speaker 2>Americans so on. So you have to have this recovery.

526
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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's why we don't see a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff up until about forty five hundred to five

528
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:56.360
<v Speaker 2>thousand years ago, and then almost as if somebody blew

529
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<v Speaker 2>a whistle. You see the flurry of activity. You see

530
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:03.440
<v Speaker 2>it in Samaria, you see it in Egypt, you see

531
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<v Speaker 2>it in the along the Indus Valley, you know, the

532
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:10.400
<v Speaker 2>whole civilization that arose there. You see it in North America,

533
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<v Speaker 2>you see it in South America, and you see it

534
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:16.920
<v Speaker 2>in British Isles in northern Europe. Because think about Stonehenge

535
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<v Speaker 2>and so on, those early megalithic structures in the British

536
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<v Speaker 2>Isles date to that same period.

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<v Speaker 1>But are those all reboot sites? Randall? Are we talking

538
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<v Speaker 1>about reboot sites?

539
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<v Speaker 2>Now? There's a great question. Yeah. I think in a

540
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<v Speaker 2>lot of cases we are, because there's evidence that many

541
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:40.760
<v Speaker 2>of those sites were occupied earlier and were considered to

542
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<v Speaker 2>be if you're sacred, whatever that we define that term

543
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<v Speaker 2>to mean. I would say that it probably implies that

544
00:36:48.039 --> 00:36:52.079
<v Speaker 2>there's a special quality or energy to these sites related

545
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:57.119
<v Speaker 2>to the geological composition and structure of the site and

546
00:36:57.159 --> 00:37:01.960
<v Speaker 2>its relation to the heavens above. I think we're looking there,

547
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:06.119
<v Speaker 2>possibly at an ancient science of uniting heaven and Earth,

548
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:09.960
<v Speaker 2>because doesn't it seem And I know you've now seen

549
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:15.440
<v Speaker 2>enough of this to see the similarity, the underlying similarity

550
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:19.360
<v Speaker 2>of so many of these ancient structures. Yea, even though

551
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<v Speaker 2>they don't look you know, you could look at Egyptian

552
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:25.599
<v Speaker 2>pyramids or an Egyptian temple it looks very distinct from

553
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:27.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, what they were building in Samaria with the

554
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:31.559
<v Speaker 2>zig rots, and the step looks very distinct from what

555
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.880
<v Speaker 2>they were doing in North America with these I don't

556
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<v Speaker 2>know if you've ever visited any of the the.

557
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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's funny. I haven't been to any of the

558
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:42.119
<v Speaker 1>mound builders, but they I gotta go, I gotta, I

559
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:43.639
<v Speaker 1>gotta go and lift Carlson to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm gonna be I'm not gonna

561
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:50.800
<v Speaker 2>give you any rest. You gotta get out and see where.

562
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<v Speaker 1>They get out and see especially up and down the Mississippi.

563
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Kahokia will blow your mind. I mean that what's

564
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<v Speaker 2>called the Monks Mound is just enormous, and you're going

565
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:02.920
<v Speaker 2>to be going, Okay, how many people did it take

566
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<v Speaker 2>to build this thing? And then a course to every

567
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:08.320
<v Speaker 2>person that's engaged in that, there's got to be ten people.

568
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<v Speaker 2>That's part of the support infrastructure, and that's that's an

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<v Speaker 2>important point. But what I'm getting at is that it

570
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<v Speaker 2>looks like we got a model. And of course this

571
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<v Speaker 2>would be the subject to refinement and improvement and all

572
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:24.119
<v Speaker 2>of that, but it looks like there was a mortality

573
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<v Speaker 2>event that a bottleneck in human population around the world.

574
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<v Speaker 2>It took three four thousand and five thousand years for

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<v Speaker 2>the human population to recover to the extent that we

576
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<v Speaker 2>can now look and see the fruits of their handiwork.

577
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but you're saying nine five hundred years approximately, is

578
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<v Speaker 1>when this impact came. Wipes out megafauna, wipes out whatever

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<v Speaker 1>I think you said last time was roughly eighty five

580
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:56.760
<v Speaker 1>percent of humanity estimated was destroyed. Who was I mean,

581
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<v Speaker 1>this is the Atlantis question. Atlantis was other sophisticated early

582
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<v Speaker 1>Egyptian cultures. Perhaps there were pre Inca people who were

583
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<v Speaker 1>around building stuff, and this is Graham's story. Graham's talking

584
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<v Speaker 1>about these early people. What is the evidence now, I

585
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:19.559
<v Speaker 1>have been to Egypt every year. I think the pyramids

586
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:23.480
<v Speaker 1>are pre cataclysm. I think the culture that built them

587
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:30.000
<v Speaker 1>were engineer, brilliant engineers, and that is a calling card

588
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:34.960
<v Speaker 1>for them. But we don't have a traditional science does

589
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<v Speaker 1>not believe there was a pre culture, a pre devastation culture,

590
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:43.199
<v Speaker 1>because there's according to them, there's no part charts. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're getting there now. I think our technology

592
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:49.760
<v Speaker 1>is getting there. You look under the water and there's

593
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<v Speaker 1>evidence of ruined. We're going to take a short commercial

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<v Speaker 1>break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we

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<v Speaker 1>will return shortly with my guest today, Randall Carlson, presenting

596
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<v Speaker 1>the Great Upheaval. Will be right back. My guest today

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<v Speaker 1>is Randall Carlson. He is known as the Rogue Geologist.

598
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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about a number of topics, including the torn

599
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<v Speaker 1>meteor stream and how the Earth passes through this precarious

600
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:08.920
<v Speaker 1>event twice Yearly, let's talk about one or two of

601
00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:11.719
<v Speaker 1>these ruins that were part of this impact. What about

602
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<v Speaker 1>We talked about Tiwana Ku and Bolivia beforehand. That place,

603
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<v Speaker 1>Randall is cut by a group of geniuses. We don't

604
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<v Speaker 1>know what the technology was. It looks like a welding

605
00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:27.880
<v Speaker 1>torch of some kind of laser, and these are megaliths

606
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:31.320
<v Speaker 1>of a precision that we just can't conceive of.

607
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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I know, it's pretty mind boggling, it sure is.

608
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<v Speaker 2>And you know, one of the points I try to make.

609
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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're talking about the Great Uphevil, But one

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<v Speaker 2>of the points I try to make is that many archaeologists,

611
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<v Speaker 2>even geologists, are not trained in catastrophic geology. They may

612
00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:56.559
<v Speaker 2>a good point, yeah, yeah, they're not trained in catastrophism.

613
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<v Speaker 2>They don't know. They haven't necessarily studied the effect of

614
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<v Speaker 2>hypervelocity impacts, solar outbursts and coronal mass ejections and what

615
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<v Speaker 2>effects they may have, the effects of what an ice

616
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<v Speaker 2>age will do rising, you know, think about sea levels

617
00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:17.360
<v Speaker 2>rising and falling more than four hundred feet, the great floods,

618
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<v Speaker 2>where you have these gigantic, unbelievably huge floods sweeping over

619
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<v Speaker 2>the land. They don't really, that's not part of their worldview.

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<v Speaker 2>And so what they don't understand is that, see, they

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<v Speaker 2>when they came up and were trained geologists were used

622
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<v Speaker 2>to be trained the fundamental concepts of geology and earth

623
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<v Speaker 2>history were called uniformitarian right, which is a very powerful

624
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:49.719
<v Speaker 2>tool to use to understand the past. The problem is

625
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:51.599
<v Speaker 2>is that we can look and we can go Okay,

626
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:54.079
<v Speaker 2>the present is the key to the past. So if

627
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:58.119
<v Speaker 2>we're trying to decipher events that happened in the past,

628
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:01.000
<v Speaker 2>we refer to things that you can see going on

629
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:05.920
<v Speaker 2>today and we essentially extrapolate backwards. Now, within that framework,

630
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<v Speaker 2>you might have a local catastrophe like a volcano going

631
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<v Speaker 2>off for an earthquake, but you don't have anything that

632
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<v Speaker 2>encompasses an entire continent the or much less the world

633
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<v Speaker 2>as a whole. Right, okay, So in that model, you

634
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<v Speaker 2>might go, okay, well, if everything is changing so slowly

635
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:30.599
<v Speaker 2>one grain of sand, one drop of water at a time,

636
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:33.159
<v Speaker 2>we don't even really even notice the change over a

637
00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:38.159
<v Speaker 2>single life span. It requires multiple lifespans, right, Well, okay,

638
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:43.000
<v Speaker 2>so now you've got this false picture because it's half correct,

639
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:45.480
<v Speaker 2>but it's missing a whole. Half of the equation is

640
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:49.400
<v Speaker 2>that from time to time, that nice, placid pace of

641
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:54.559
<v Speaker 2>slow incremental change suddenly gets interrupted in a major way

642
00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:57.800
<v Speaker 2>and boom, do you know what? Proverbial? You know what

643
00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:01.559
<v Speaker 2>hits the fan big time. If you don't take account

644
00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:03.079
<v Speaker 2>of that, you're not going to be able to have

645
00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:06.320
<v Speaker 2>a realistic model of the human past. And when you'd

646
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:10.559
<v Speaker 2>see the direct effects, let's say, of a water flow

647
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:14.079
<v Speaker 2>over the land of a half a billion qubic feet

648
00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:17.360
<v Speaker 2>per second, you realize that what doesn't matter what was there,

649
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:23.480
<v Speaker 2>whatever was there is completely erased from eliminated from existence.

650
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:27.360
<v Speaker 2>You could have had a city there, and a half

651
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:30.119
<v Speaker 2>a billion qubic feet per second is going to wash

652
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:35.639
<v Speaker 2>the entirety of that city away. You're talking about flooding, right, flooding, yes,

653
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:39.840
<v Speaker 2>flooding okay, and flooding. Gigantic floods were part of this

654
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:45.920
<v Speaker 2>whole great upheaval. It encompassed both firestorms on a large scale,

655
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:51.440
<v Speaker 2>and it encompassed we now know, volcanic eruptions on a

656
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:57.400
<v Speaker 2>huge scale and involved major seismic shaking and earthquakes. And

657
00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:00.840
<v Speaker 2>the one of the effects was these gigantic antic floods

658
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:03.960
<v Speaker 2>that are being documented from all having occurred all over

659
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:09.000
<v Speaker 2>the world. There were tsunamis apparently that were huge. There's

660
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:12.519
<v Speaker 2>a tsunami. You know, Dallas Abbot as a scientist who

661
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:16.960
<v Speaker 2>has been studying the effects of tsunamis on the continental

662
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:20.800
<v Speaker 2>coastlines of the world, and they're everywhere. There's the one

663
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:25.840
<v Speaker 2>in Madagascar, Madagascar, off the east coast of Africa.

664
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<v Speaker 1>The most recent one. Yeah.

665
00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:32.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It appears to be associated with a submarine crater.

666
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:35.519
<v Speaker 2>It's about two miles under the water that would have

667
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:39.360
<v Speaker 2>generated a giant tsunami and when it made landfall at

668
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:42.760
<v Speaker 2>against Madagascar, it was at least six hundred and fifty

669
00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:47.280
<v Speaker 2>feet high. Now we've seen the devastation that can be caused,

670
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:50.760
<v Speaker 2>like the two thousand and four Indonesian tsunami that killed

671
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:54.639
<v Speaker 2>a quarter million people. You watch those videos, they're mind blowing.

672
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:58.599
<v Speaker 2>Or the videos of the tsunami that hit Japan back

673
00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:04.440
<v Speaker 2>when the new Clear reactor got affected. You remember that, yeah, yeah, right,

674
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:07.280
<v Speaker 2>And so you look at those videos and you go, Okay,

675
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:10.079
<v Speaker 2>here's a tsunami wave that's thirty to fifty feet high

676
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:12.679
<v Speaker 2>when it makes landfall. What would a six hundred foot

677
00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:17.239
<v Speaker 2>six hundred and fifty foot tsunami do to the coastlines? Right?

678
00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:20.719
<v Speaker 2>So if you had a city, if you had a village,

679
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:24.360
<v Speaker 2>a settlement on the coastline, and you have a two

680
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:27.920
<v Speaker 2>hundred foot tsunami hitting again, there's not going to be

681
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:31.159
<v Speaker 2>anything there. You're not going to find potzards, You're not

682
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:35.320
<v Speaker 2>going to find anything really, And so this is the problem.

683
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:40.800
<v Speaker 2>The problem is is that they don't understand how powerfully

684
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:45.360
<v Speaker 2>the planet was affected by these events. And when you

685
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:49.000
<v Speaker 2>have one hundred thousand years and there's the glaciers come

686
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:52.440
<v Speaker 2>and go four times. Think about this, A half mile

687
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:56.239
<v Speaker 2>two mile and a half thick glacier grinding over the

688
00:46:56.360 --> 00:46:59.760
<v Speaker 2>landscape covered more than half of North America for example. Okay,

689
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:02.880
<v Speaker 2>that glacier rapidly melts how are you going to know

690
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:06.599
<v Speaker 2>what was there in that land before the glaciers came.

691
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:11.280
<v Speaker 2>Whatever the glaciers don't destroy, whatever, the ice doesn't destroy.

692
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:15.039
<v Speaker 2>The melt water, the huge volumes of meltwater and the

693
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:18.719
<v Speaker 2>ensuing floods is going to destroy the rest and given it.

694
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:21.840
<v Speaker 2>If we look at the rise of modern civilization Cliff,

695
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:25.239
<v Speaker 2>we see the two preferred places where we first see

696
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:29.440
<v Speaker 2>settlements turning into villages villages turning into cities is on

697
00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:33.760
<v Speaker 2>coastlines and in river valleys. Right think about the every

698
00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:37.679
<v Speaker 2>Think about the Samerian civilization Tigris Euphrates River. Think about

699
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:43.519
<v Speaker 2>the Harappan civilization along the Indus River. Think about Graham's

700
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:48.320
<v Speaker 2>South American civilization along the Amazon, think about civilization. You

701
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:50.599
<v Speaker 2>know the scale of the things we see along the

702
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Mississippi and Ohio rivers in North America. The list goes

703
00:47:55.320 --> 00:47:58.760
<v Speaker 2>on Egypt of course, the Nile River right now, if

704
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:01.559
<v Speaker 2>you have an event like the Younger dryers and the

705
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:05.800
<v Speaker 2>scale of flooding that we're talking about here, every one

706
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:09.440
<v Speaker 2>of those rivers is going to be overwhelmed. It's gonna

707
00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:12.760
<v Speaker 2>make like what happened in Texas on the Guadalupe River

708
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:14.960
<v Speaker 2>like nothing like a trickle.

709
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:18.119
<v Speaker 1>So the river gets huge. But do tsunamis come through a.

710
00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:22.559
<v Speaker 3>River, No, no, no, no, no. Tsunamis come from the ocean.

711
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:27.679
<v Speaker 3>Like although, look, if you've got a river coming down

712
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:31.119
<v Speaker 3>to the coastline, that tsunami wave, the force of that

713
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:35.280
<v Speaker 3>can backwash up a river valley and they will do that.

714
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Right, these single term events, like let's give an example,

715
00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:41.239
<v Speaker 1>like if we look at Cairo, where there's a tremendous

716
00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:46.960
<v Speaker 1>amount of buildings. If the Nile river right rises dramatically

717
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:51.280
<v Speaker 1>over say a day, does it stay that way, does

718
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:57.199
<v Speaker 1>it devastate like a huge volume of water and then recede,

719
00:48:57.400 --> 00:48:58.320
<v Speaker 1>or does it keep coming.

720
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, now, of course it's controlled. They built the Aswan

721
00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:05.679
<v Speaker 2>Dam and it controls the flow. But before that, you

722
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:10.400
<v Speaker 2>would have every summer around late July, you would have

723
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:15.400
<v Speaker 2>the floods coming from the Ethiopian highlands in the headwaters

724
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:17.480
<v Speaker 2>of the Nile, the Blue Nile and the White Nile.

725
00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:23.239
<v Speaker 2>That water would flow north towards the Mediterranean. And basically

726
00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:26.079
<v Speaker 2>they had a whole ritual that they would do. The

727
00:49:26.119 --> 00:49:29.079
<v Speaker 2>priests would get out and they would observe what was

728
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:33.280
<v Speaker 2>called the Haliacal rising of Sirius the Dog Star would

729
00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:38.559
<v Speaker 2>rise after being invisible from the latitude of Egypt. There

730
00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:41.760
<v Speaker 2>from the latitude of Cairo, it was invisible for about

731
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<v Speaker 2>seventy days, and then because of the Earth's movement around

732
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:51.440
<v Speaker 2>the sun late July, you would see Sirious rise in

733
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:55.320
<v Speaker 2>the east just moments before the sun right, and then

734
00:49:55.800 --> 00:49:57.800
<v Speaker 2>the sun the next day, the sun would have moved

735
00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:00.559
<v Speaker 2>a little farther away, next day a little far the way,

736
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<v Speaker 2>so each day you would see Sirious rising a little

737
00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:08.000
<v Speaker 2>bit early. Right. But there was that first day, And

738
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:13.159
<v Speaker 2>the symbolism of the dog is likely because they thought

739
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<v Speaker 2>of dogs as being giving fore warning. Dogs bark and

740
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:20.199
<v Speaker 2>they warn you of something, right, the dog star for

741
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:24.000
<v Speaker 2>whatever coincidence, and I don't think anybody claims it's other

742
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:26.559
<v Speaker 2>than the coincidence, but I don't know. I'm not convinced.

743
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:31.199
<v Speaker 2>Right after that rising called the Haliacal Rising of Sirius

744
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:34.320
<v Speaker 2>the Dog Star Haliakal because it's rising with the sun.

745
00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:39.239
<v Speaker 2>The Nile River floods would come from the headwaters right,

746
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:44.480
<v Speaker 2>they would sweep north to the Mediterranean, and when those

747
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:47.920
<v Speaker 2>waters drained off, they would leave a fresh layer of

748
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:52.760
<v Speaker 2>alluvium that is the stuff that's being deposited, and so

749
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:58.519
<v Speaker 2>it builds up. And basically, when the warning came that

750
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:02.320
<v Speaker 2>the floods were impending, which was associated with the rising

751
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:06.119
<v Speaker 2>of Sirius, they would vacate the valley and the river

752
00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:09.480
<v Speaker 2>would flood deposit the alluvium, and they would go back

753
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:14.719
<v Speaker 2>and plant their crops. So that's kind of how it worked.

754
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, the rumors are that the desert area

755
00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:25.280
<v Speaker 1>of Egypt were much greener than they are now.

756
00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:28.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, I mean that's well established. Yeah, I mean

757
00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:33.880
<v Speaker 2>it's well In fact, the sand that covers that's the

758
00:51:33.960 --> 00:51:38.239
<v Speaker 2>harem is relatively thin veneer and if you remove that sand,

759
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:44.000
<v Speaker 2>what's underneath it is a water scoured bedrock landscape with

760
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:49.159
<v Speaker 2>channels and river valleys, the remains of huge lakes that

761
00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:54.920
<v Speaker 2>were covered North Africa during several episodes. It looks like

762
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:59.079
<v Speaker 2>there was much more rainfall during the Late Ice Age.

763
00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Then there was also a period after the Younger Dryas

764
00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:06.159
<v Speaker 2>where there was more rainfall down to between six and

765
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:11.400
<v Speaker 2>seven thousand years ago, and then the monsoon apparently shifted

766
00:52:11.559 --> 00:52:15.320
<v Speaker 2>and those rains ceased and then it became a desert.

767
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:18.199
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, there was a whole culture of people that

768
00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:22.880
<v Speaker 2>lived in the lush Sahara eight nine thousand years ago,

769
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:27.280
<v Speaker 2>and who they are, where they came from is not known,

770
00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:31.000
<v Speaker 2>although our paper I recently read was speculating that they

771
00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:37.559
<v Speaker 2>came from the West, migrated across and ultimately maybe came

772
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:42.880
<v Speaker 2>from the area of the Atlas Mountains in Morocco, which, Yeah,

773
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:45.800
<v Speaker 2>that is interesting because what does that kind of suggest

774
00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:47.199
<v Speaker 2>the connection, doesn't it.

775
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:49.239
<v Speaker 1>I've had a couple of guys on the show Randal

776
00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:55.039
<v Speaker 1>that have speculated that the northern part of on the

777
00:52:55.079 --> 00:53:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Pacific side of Africa was where the land of Atlantis

778
00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:04.039
<v Speaker 1>was because they found there some geological formations that were

779
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:08.880
<v Speaker 1>circular in format I think we've talked about this before. Yeah,

780
00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:10.920
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if it was big enough to

781
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:14.719
<v Speaker 1>support a culture. The bigger problem for me is that

782
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:19.280
<v Speaker 1>they've had guys go out there. There's no evidence of foundations.

783
00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:24.519
<v Speaker 1>There's no evidence of bricks, no evidence of any civilization there, right,

784
00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:28.119
<v Speaker 1>And even if it was a geological event, that's that's

785
00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:31.920
<v Speaker 1>the terminating event. You're going to see something, you know,

786
00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:37.159
<v Speaker 1>shows us formations of civilization, you know what I mean? Bricks?

787
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't, I don't you know. I have studied

788
00:53:42.800 --> 00:53:47.320
<v Speaker 2>pretty deeply into the whole Atlantis question, mostly through reading

789
00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Plato's two dialogues and multiple multiple translations, including even slogging

790
00:53:53.480 --> 00:53:58.480
<v Speaker 2>through the original Greek a number of years ago. One

791
00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:01.800
<v Speaker 2>thing is very, very cris still clear. In his dialogues,

792
00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:07.519
<v Speaker 2>Plato's Atlantis is described as being an island. When you're

793
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:11.440
<v Speaker 2>talking about the Reshat structure, Recat Recat Reshat structure. I

794
00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:12.719
<v Speaker 2>think it's a soft season.

795
00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:17.320
<v Speaker 1>That's it, that reformation, geological formation in Africa.

796
00:54:18.239 --> 00:54:21.320
<v Speaker 2>It's just to me, it doesn't fit the bill. First

797
00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:24.960
<v Speaker 2>of all, it's an island. It's not an island. It's

798
00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:29.159
<v Speaker 2>like fifteen hundred feet above sea level. And Plato's pretty

799
00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:33.599
<v Speaker 2>explicit that it was an island. And we could do

800
00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:35.400
<v Speaker 2>a share screen right now if you want it, and

801
00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:37.559
<v Speaker 2>might still show you some things. Let's do it, Okay,

802
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:41.840
<v Speaker 2>So you see this red line. There's a restructure there.

803
00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh there it is, yeah, yeah, right down here, and

804
00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:48.320
<v Speaker 2>then there's two confirmed impact craters and they form a

805
00:54:48.320 --> 00:54:52.239
<v Speaker 2>perfectly straight line. And I just pointing that out because

806
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:56.000
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of a coincidence, I think, unless it's part

807
00:54:56.039 --> 00:55:01.559
<v Speaker 2>of the same, you know, because the early first discoveries

808
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:03.960
<v Speaker 2>of reshaft structure was that it was an impact crater.

809
00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:08.679
<v Speaker 2>Now I think the consensus is that it's a volcanic event.

810
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:12.000
<v Speaker 2>If I go backwards here, let's see. Yeah, this is

811
00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:17.280
<v Speaker 2>a cross section now and it looks like it's this

812
00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:21.639
<v Speaker 2>dome shaped structure here that's downfaulted. Like you can see,

813
00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:23.599
<v Speaker 2>this is a fault line here, and this is a

814
00:55:23.639 --> 00:55:28.519
<v Speaker 2>fault here, and you got like this down here below

815
00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:34.559
<v Speaker 2>it says like ryolytic magmas, magmas like lava, right, hydrothermal

816
00:55:34.599 --> 00:55:38.679
<v Speaker 2>bretcha is these up and here what that is Breca

817
00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:43.440
<v Speaker 2>means broken rock and this was stuff that was broken rock.

818
00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:48.000
<v Speaker 2>The hydro thermal means that it was like hot water, right.

819
00:55:48.440 --> 00:55:50.920
<v Speaker 2>And then you've got these different layers here. You've got

820
00:55:51.119 --> 00:55:56.880
<v Speaker 2>like it says, quartzitic sandstone in this upper layer here. Anyways,

821
00:55:57.079 --> 00:56:00.519
<v Speaker 2>this is actually showing that there is a subterranean structure

822
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:01.199
<v Speaker 2>to this thing.

823
00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry you said that. You're thinking, or they're thinking,

824
00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:06.280
<v Speaker 1>is that it was a volcano at one.

825
00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Time, Well it's it could have been. It was probably

826
00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:14.000
<v Speaker 2>a magma plume that pressured upwards and created a dome.

827
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:16.000
<v Speaker 2>And here you can you here you can see in

828
00:56:16.039 --> 00:56:17.440
<v Speaker 2>this you see this is called.

829
00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:18.400
<v Speaker 1>The box photograph.

830
00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, this is so you see, it's actually part

831
00:56:23.480 --> 00:56:26.719
<v Speaker 2>of this. There's a huge magma chamber below it. So

832
00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:32.119
<v Speaker 2>if that magma is pressuring upwards, it can cause a bulge. Now,

833
00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:35.239
<v Speaker 2>think of this. If you've got a layered bulge cliff

834
00:56:35.599 --> 00:56:38.599
<v Speaker 2>and then let's say you've got a flat and it's

835
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:42.239
<v Speaker 2>multiple layers and then it bulges up. You still got

836
00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:45.239
<v Speaker 2>the layers, but they curve up. Now imagine you slice

837
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:47.440
<v Speaker 2>the top of it off. Well, what you're going to

838
00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:50.440
<v Speaker 2>now see is a ring structure, if that makes sense.

839
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:53.159
<v Speaker 1>It looks artificial, and that's why I can see what

840
00:56:53.360 --> 00:56:56.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people might have thought it was man made. Well,

841
00:56:56.679 --> 00:56:57.960
<v Speaker 1>very strange looking.

842
00:56:58.519 --> 00:57:02.519
<v Speaker 2>When you let's see here, this is all the scientific

843
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:05.199
<v Speaker 2>work on the Reshat structure, which is also called the

844
00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:06.079
<v Speaker 2>Eye of Africa.

845
00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:10.119
<v Speaker 1>And wow, they've been looking at it for a while.

846
00:57:11.159 --> 00:57:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, this goes back to what was the year here,

847
00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:16.239
<v Speaker 2>This goes back well last twenty fourteen.

848
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:18.639
<v Speaker 1>But this thousand and eight right there on.

849
00:57:18.679 --> 00:57:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Thousand and eight. Yeah, it was discovered by shuttle flights. Yeah,

850
00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:28.360
<v Speaker 2>and it was thought to be probably impact related, but

851
00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:33.840
<v Speaker 2>now they're calling referring to hydro thermalism played an important

852
00:57:33.880 --> 00:57:36.559
<v Speaker 2>role in the evolution of the Reshat complex. It is

853
00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:41.440
<v Speaker 2>responsible notably for the Karst collapse central megabresh of formation.

854
00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Karst is where you have limestone solution, and it's almost

855
00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:49.880
<v Speaker 2>like a vertical cave, right, because you know caves form

856
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:53.360
<v Speaker 2>in limestone where water flows through limestone, it erodes it

857
00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:56.559
<v Speaker 2>out and it creates caves. But if it's like a

858
00:57:56.679 --> 00:58:00.360
<v Speaker 2>vertical shaft, it's like a krst. A sinkhole would be

859
00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:03.559
<v Speaker 2>like what a car sty is. See, we don't need

860
00:58:03.599 --> 00:58:08.440
<v Speaker 2>to get into I've covered all of this ilgy on.

861
00:58:08.760 --> 00:58:12.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to make is you are somewhat in agreement

862
00:58:12.320 --> 00:58:15.840
<v Speaker 1>with me and some others that the place that Plato

863
00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:23.239
<v Speaker 1>called Atlantis was impacted by this event. Uh, we don't

864
00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:26.440
<v Speaker 1>really have a mythology of the impact. We only have

865
00:58:26.559 --> 00:58:32.119
<v Speaker 1>flood myths, right do we have Do we have firestone,

866
00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:34.400
<v Speaker 1>fire and brimstone? Oh?

867
00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:41.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely absolutely we do. Now here's a satellite view

868
00:58:41.159 --> 00:58:42.320
<v Speaker 2>of the reshaft structure.

869
00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:44.079
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, wow.

870
00:58:44.320 --> 00:58:47.119
<v Speaker 2>What I'm going to do is a lot of times

871
00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:49.400
<v Speaker 2>they're saying, well, it's a multi ring structure, and Plato

872
00:58:49.480 --> 00:58:54.039
<v Speaker 2>describes a multi ring structure and kias well. He also

873
00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:57.719
<v Speaker 2>he's very explicit and precise about the dimensions he gives.

874
00:58:58.119 --> 00:59:01.159
<v Speaker 2>So I've reconstructed I've created a whole three D model

875
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:06.760
<v Speaker 2>of the ringed structure of Atlantis, right the ringed city. Oh,

876
00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:10.800
<v Speaker 2>and that blue circle that you see right here, that's

877
00:59:10.960 --> 00:59:13.519
<v Speaker 2>it to the same scale as the Reshat structure.

878
00:59:14.360 --> 00:59:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, it's tiny.

879
00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:19.039
<v Speaker 2>It's huge when you're standing there looking at it. But

880
00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:23.000
<v Speaker 2>compared to the Reshat structure, which is like twenty five

881
00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:24.960
<v Speaker 2>miles wide, yeah, it's much smaller.

882
00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:29.960
<v Speaker 1>So you're taking the Plato's or whatever information we have

883
00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:38.159
<v Speaker 1>on the Atlantis seaport, which is since rings area, and

884
00:59:38.199 --> 00:59:39.719
<v Speaker 1>you reproduce Oh, is this is it?

885
00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Let's see here, So this is what this is. As

886
00:59:44.519 --> 00:59:50.880
<v Speaker 2>I enlarged. This is the scale actually what Plato describes

887
00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:56.000
<v Speaker 2>here relative to the Reshat structure. Then just for fun

888
00:59:56.960 --> 01:00:01.199
<v Speaker 2>I enlarged the circular city to roughly the scale of

889
01:00:01.239 --> 01:00:04.480
<v Speaker 2>the Reshaft structure and superimposed it.

890
01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:06.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh there you go.

891
01:00:06.360 --> 01:00:09.639
<v Speaker 2>You see, and it's not really the same when you

892
01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:13.360
<v Speaker 2>look at it. But the main thing is is that

893
01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:16.719
<v Speaker 2>this is this is the true scale right here. This

894
01:00:16.760 --> 01:00:23.280
<v Speaker 2>is based directly on Plato's description numbers represent the distance

895
01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:26.119
<v Speaker 2>in stays, and one Greek stage was six hundred and

896
01:00:26.119 --> 01:00:30.239
<v Speaker 2>eight feet, that's well known. So the outer ring was

897
01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:34.159
<v Speaker 2>three stays, So then the measure of that would be

898
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:37.639
<v Speaker 2>six hundred and eight times three or nine hundred and

899
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:40.559
<v Speaker 2>twenty four feet. And then you had this ring of

900
01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:44.039
<v Speaker 2>land and this is all taken directly from Plato's description

901
01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:48.039
<v Speaker 2>of this of the circular city. Then, so now you

902
01:00:48.079 --> 01:00:50.639
<v Speaker 2>would have nine hundred and twenty four feet here, nine

903
01:00:50.719 --> 01:00:53.639
<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty four feet here, so times two, you're

904
01:00:53.679 --> 01:00:56.199
<v Speaker 2>now up to eighteen hundred and forty eight feet going

905
01:00:56.239 --> 01:01:01.280
<v Speaker 2>from outer water ring outer lane. Then you get to

906
01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:05.239
<v Speaker 2>the next water ring, which is two stags, and then

907
01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:07.760
<v Speaker 2>the next land ring, which is two stags. Then you

908
01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:10.639
<v Speaker 2>get to a water ring which is one and you

909
01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:15.960
<v Speaker 2>get to this which was five states in width. So

910
01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:18.159
<v Speaker 2>you can just add them up, right, If you add

911
01:01:18.199 --> 01:01:21.239
<v Speaker 2>all of these up, which is what I did. Let's

912
01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:25.119
<v Speaker 2>see here, we can see that it would be let's

913
01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:32.119
<v Speaker 2>go three plus three plus two plus two plus five

914
01:01:33.519 --> 01:01:39.519
<v Speaker 2>plus one plus one plus I'll just go four plus six.

915
01:01:40.039 --> 01:01:43.800
<v Speaker 2>We've got twenty seven stags and that would be times

916
01:01:43.960 --> 01:01:47.639
<v Speaker 2>six hundred and eight feet. So you're looking at sixteen

917
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:51.239
<v Speaker 2>thousand feet, so you're looking about three miles in mile,

918
01:01:51.400 --> 01:01:55.800
<v Speaker 2>three mile width, three mile width. Yes, okay, rough, it

919
01:01:55.840 --> 01:01:58.280
<v Speaker 2>seems very military to me. Is that you think that

920
01:01:58.440 --> 01:02:03.920
<v Speaker 2>was purposely done? Maybe it doesn't seem functional, but maybe

921
01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:07.480
<v Speaker 2>it was. Well. Plato said then that there was this

922
01:02:07.559 --> 01:02:11.920
<v Speaker 2>three hundred foot wide canal that connected to the ocean,

923
01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:16.440
<v Speaker 2>so that ships could come in. And here's sort of

924
01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:20.519
<v Speaker 2>a three d oblique view. So this is the let's

925
01:02:20.559 --> 01:02:24.760
<v Speaker 2>say it's oversimplified. Let's say this is the ocean canal

926
01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:28.719
<v Speaker 2>coming in. And then there was a bridge that linked

927
01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:31.760
<v Speaker 2>all of the rings. But there was enough room, it

928
01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:36.280
<v Speaker 2>was elevated enough the ships could sail under the bridge,

929
01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:41.519
<v Speaker 2>and you could have foot traffic or you know, people

930
01:02:41.599 --> 01:02:45.199
<v Speaker 2>walking or carts or whatever on the bridge. But underneath

931
01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:50.320
<v Speaker 2>the bridge, the ships could sail in to the different rings.

932
01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:52.760
<v Speaker 2>And here's more or less you can kind of get

933
01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:58.320
<v Speaker 2>the picture. So you see there's an opening under the bridge,

934
01:02:58.360 --> 01:03:01.280
<v Speaker 2>so a ship could come in the outer ring of waters,

935
01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:04.280
<v Speaker 2>sail through the canal, come to the inner ring, sail

936
01:03:04.360 --> 01:03:07.800
<v Speaker 2>through another canal, and and ultimately got up here to

937
01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:12.320
<v Speaker 2>which was the temple of Posiona mm hmm. So there

938
01:03:12.360 --> 01:03:14.800
<v Speaker 2>you can kind of kind of get the picture of

939
01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:18.519
<v Speaker 2>it that that's oversimplified. But yeah, it's all to the

940
01:03:18.559 --> 01:03:21.199
<v Speaker 2>exact accurate scale that Plato describes.

941
01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:26.800
<v Speaker 1>And where where is the sitting off of it's close

942
01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:28.679
<v Speaker 1>to the Azores or where.

943
01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:32.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, nobody knows this is This is a description.

944
01:03:32.280 --> 01:03:35.199
<v Speaker 2>Whether it really existed or not is one question. I

945
01:03:35.199 --> 01:03:37.800
<v Speaker 2>don't know the answer has.

946
01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:39.440
<v Speaker 1>The problem We really don't know where.

947
01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:44.360
<v Speaker 2>However, there's two things to two parts to the Atlantis story.

948
01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:50.599
<v Speaker 2>There's the geology describing the island complex and all of

949
01:03:50.639 --> 01:03:55.599
<v Speaker 2>its attributes, which actually, in my opinion fits the Azor

950
01:03:55.639 --> 01:03:59.079
<v Speaker 2>it's better than any other place. Then then there's the

951
01:03:59.159 --> 01:04:03.119
<v Speaker 2>second part, which involves the description of this city and

952
01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:07.360
<v Speaker 2>which is phenomenal on its on its scale. Right. Well,

953
01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:12.360
<v Speaker 2>we could take the city completely out of the story

954
01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:16.400
<v Speaker 2>and we would still have a potential Atlantis in the

955
01:04:16.519 --> 01:04:17.679
<v Speaker 2>region of the Azores.

956
01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

957
01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:22.239
<v Speaker 2>That could have been a seafaring culture, but without all

958
01:04:22.280 --> 01:04:26.679
<v Speaker 2>this infrastructure. See, so there's two parts. Is the is

959
01:04:26.760 --> 01:04:30.760
<v Speaker 2>this scale of this infrastructure plausible? I don't know. It's

960
01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:36.000
<v Speaker 2>It would be an enormous undertaking to actually built this thing, right,

961
01:04:36.679 --> 01:04:39.760
<v Speaker 2>But on the other hand, the geological description of Plato

962
01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:44.079
<v Speaker 2>gives is pretty much right on for describing the Azores

963
01:04:44.639 --> 01:04:47.639
<v Speaker 2>and what the science now tells us as Azores is

964
01:04:47.679 --> 01:04:51.880
<v Speaker 2>a part of a micro continent. The Azores islands are

965
01:04:51.960 --> 01:04:55.360
<v Speaker 2>the peaks of mountains, and those mountains are in the

966
01:04:55.760 --> 01:05:00.760
<v Speaker 2>uh Azors micro continent. And it's it's dun. We could

967
01:05:00.760 --> 01:05:05.000
<v Speaker 2>go through a lot of it. But so then here's

968
01:05:05.320 --> 01:05:11.639
<v Speaker 2>here's Plato's description, taken directly from his account. The inner island,

969
01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:15.239
<v Speaker 2>five states in diameter, five stags at six hundred and

970
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:19.159
<v Speaker 2>eight feet equals three thousand and forty. And so I've

971
01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:21.360
<v Speaker 2>gone through and worked all the numbers. And now this

972
01:05:21.400 --> 01:05:24.159
<v Speaker 2>is interesting because three thousand and forty is half a

973
01:05:24.199 --> 01:05:29.039
<v Speaker 2>nautical mile, which is, you know what basically sailors use,

974
01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:32.079
<v Speaker 2>and a nautical mile is six thousand and eighty feet.

975
01:05:32.360 --> 01:05:37.000
<v Speaker 2>So interestingly, Plato's numbers line right up with our traditional

976
01:05:37.679 --> 01:05:45.280
<v Speaker 2>methods of measuring distance, how sailors measured the distance. And

977
01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:48.639
<v Speaker 2>then we have this magic number forty three thousand, two hundred,

978
01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:52.599
<v Speaker 2>and that basically, if we take that the basic unit

979
01:05:52.639 --> 01:05:56.440
<v Speaker 2>that Plato gives us here, which is three thousand and

980
01:05:56.480 --> 01:06:00.440
<v Speaker 2>forty feet, times this, it gives us this conce of

981
01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:04.280
<v Speaker 2>the earth, okay, and then if we divide that by pie,

982
01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:06.079
<v Speaker 2>it gives us the diameter of the earth.

983
01:06:06.320 --> 01:06:09.760
<v Speaker 1>And we don't know what I mean. If you listen

984
01:06:09.800 --> 01:06:15.760
<v Speaker 1>to Edgar Caseying's other the impact period that was destructive

985
01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:19.159
<v Speaker 1>to Atlantis was that when Atlanta's was more of an

986
01:06:19.239 --> 01:06:23.400
<v Speaker 1>island than a continent. Right, So we don't really know

987
01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:26.159
<v Speaker 1>what it was. But if you were to choose another

988
01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Prediluvian culture that was impacted by this h younger, dryest impact,

989
01:06:32.440 --> 01:06:35.000
<v Speaker 1>what would you what would you choose? Randall?

990
01:06:35.719 --> 01:06:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, here's the difficulty is I mean, we

991
01:06:39.360 --> 01:06:44.119
<v Speaker 2>could look at like the Solutrean culture in Europe, you know,

992
01:06:44.199 --> 01:06:46.840
<v Speaker 2>the origins of some of these, like the the Berber

993
01:06:46.920 --> 01:06:53.559
<v Speaker 2>culture in Morocco, the Basque culture there on borderlines and

994
01:06:54.239 --> 01:06:59.039
<v Speaker 2>where did these people come from? And I well, let's see,

995
01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:01.239
<v Speaker 2>I got another one here could probably show you that

996
01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:06.119
<v Speaker 2>would give you the idea. Let's look at this, Yeah,

997
01:07:06.119 --> 01:07:11.039
<v Speaker 2>it's beautiful. Well. Plato describes Atlantis as being outside to

998
01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:13.920
<v Speaker 2>the west of the Pillars of Hercules, which is right

999
01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:16.920
<v Speaker 2>here the Straits of Gibraltar, and he says that when

1000
01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:20.199
<v Speaker 2>you sail west and I have these quotes all in here,

1001
01:07:20.519 --> 01:07:23.320
<v Speaker 2>you come to a group of islands, and you've got Madeira,

1002
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:26.440
<v Speaker 2>you've got the Canaries all in here, and then beyond

1003
01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:32.159
<v Speaker 2>that was the island civilization of Atlantis. And it turns

1004
01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:34.480
<v Speaker 2>out that right in the middle of the Atlantic, along

1005
01:07:34.480 --> 01:07:39.239
<v Speaker 2>the mid Atlantic Ridge, there is the Azores called micro continent,

1006
01:07:39.559 --> 01:07:43.440
<v Speaker 2>and it's this thing right here, right, And then Plato says,

1007
01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:46.559
<v Speaker 2>if you keep going from there, you get to the

1008
01:07:46.599 --> 01:07:49.239
<v Speaker 2>true continent that's on the other side of the ocean,

1009
01:07:50.360 --> 01:07:54.599
<v Speaker 2>which very suggested because supposedly the Greeks did not know

1010
01:07:54.679 --> 01:07:59.519
<v Speaker 2>about North America. He describes North America. Now the reshat

1011
01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:04.480
<v Speaker 2>structure down here right. To me, the geography is wrong,

1012
01:08:04.559 --> 01:08:08.079
<v Speaker 2>the geology is wrong, the scale of the thing is wrong.

1013
01:08:08.239 --> 01:08:12.000
<v Speaker 2>There's no evidence that there was, Like you said, there

1014
01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:15.760
<v Speaker 2>is evidence of probably hunter gatherers.

1015
01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:19.279
<v Speaker 1>There are no artifacts of a civilization really correct.

1016
01:08:19.640 --> 01:08:26.319
<v Speaker 2>Correct, And here's kind of oblique view. And I would

1017
01:08:26.439 --> 01:08:31.000
<v Speaker 2>argue that this area here is the best candidate there

1018
01:08:31.119 --> 01:08:34.439
<v Speaker 2>is for Atlanta. If Atlantis was real, this is the

1019
01:08:34.439 --> 01:08:39.000
<v Speaker 2>best candidate for it right here. And it fits his

1020
01:08:39.119 --> 01:08:43.439
<v Speaker 2>description as to the geography and the location. A lot

1021
01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:50.359
<v Speaker 2>of the geology matches what he describes, and it's also

1022
01:08:50.399 --> 01:08:54.439
<v Speaker 2>evident that it has undergone subsidence since the end of

1023
01:08:54.439 --> 01:08:58.199
<v Speaker 2>the last Ice Age, which is in critically important for

1024
01:08:58.319 --> 01:09:00.640
<v Speaker 2>making sense of the Atlantean story.

1025
01:09:02.439 --> 01:09:05.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, that's a great map. But you know,

1026
01:09:05.279 --> 01:09:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the other thing is there's a lot of evidence for

1027
01:09:08.600 --> 01:09:13.680
<v Speaker 1>very early Maya settlements in the Yucatan of Mexico. And

1028
01:09:14.279 --> 01:09:17.039
<v Speaker 1>it's my feeling that the Maya are a derivative of

1029
01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Atlantinian people, but not just them. It was a multicultural race.

1030
01:09:23.479 --> 01:09:26.039
<v Speaker 1>We see it in the evidence of their sculptures and

1031
01:09:26.079 --> 01:09:32.960
<v Speaker 1>their reliefs. There's Caucasian, African centric, Asian centric, European centric

1032
01:09:33.039 --> 01:09:34.840
<v Speaker 1>people that lived in Mexico.

1033
01:09:35.199 --> 01:09:38.319
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, all right, so I'm going to do another

1034
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<v Speaker 2>share screen here. Let's go do this.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a short commercial break to allow

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<v Speaker 1>our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly

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<v Speaker 1>with my guest today, Randall Carlson, discussing the Great Upheaval.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll return with you shortly. My guest today is Randall Carlson,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are discussing the catastrophic destruction of Earth at

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01:10:50.159 --> 01:10:55.239
<v Speaker 1>approximately nine BC. This is a almost a terminating event

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01:10:55.319 --> 01:10:59.319
<v Speaker 1>that wipes out megafauna, the living animals of the planet,

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01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and most of the humans that are occupying known and

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01:11:03.720 --> 01:11:15.399
<v Speaker 1>unknown locations from around the world. What is the color screen, Randall?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that some kind of a geological scan that you

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01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:19.560
<v Speaker 1>did this one? What is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Well, the colors are based on elevation above and

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01:11:23.199 --> 01:11:24.159
<v Speaker 2>below sea level.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a geological map.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, well yeah, it's a kind of a topographic map.

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01:11:30.039 --> 01:11:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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01:11:31.079 --> 01:11:34.319
<v Speaker 2>So the light green is higher, the darker the blue,

1052
01:11:34.399 --> 01:11:37.600
<v Speaker 2>the deeper it is, for example, in the ocean, and

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01:11:37.720 --> 01:11:41.359
<v Speaker 2>like up here in Scandinavia that kind of beige. That

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01:11:41.560 --> 01:11:45.039
<v Speaker 2>means it's a higher elevation and you can kind of

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01:11:45.039 --> 01:11:49.960
<v Speaker 2>see it. Let's see same colors here. See the deeper

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<v Speaker 2>blues are the deep ocean basin. And this would have

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<v Speaker 2>been this would be the continental land mass here, this

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01:11:57.239 --> 01:11:59.520
<v Speaker 2>would be Europe, this would be North America. And this

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01:12:00.239 --> 01:12:04.159
<v Speaker 2>is a it's basically a sunken micro continent. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to show you. Here we go. Let's see, I

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<v Speaker 2>got a speed through here. Excuse me. While I speed through,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get down to As you can see,

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<v Speaker 2>I got a lot of stuff here on it. Let

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<v Speaker 2>a lot yeah, yeah, uh probably have to go through

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01:12:20.760 --> 01:12:27.760
<v Speaker 2>this as well. Let's see, there we go. Okay, so okay,

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01:12:28.520 --> 01:12:31.359
<v Speaker 2>here we go. So that's where I would put Atlantis.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's pretty much the outlines of the Azors micro

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01:12:34.319 --> 01:12:41.439
<v Speaker 2>continent and the the mountainous area here. The nine islands

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01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:44.640
<v Speaker 2>of the Azores are the peaks of those mountains that

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01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:50.000
<v Speaker 2>are that are on this plateau. And there's evidence that

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<v Speaker 2>it sank at the end of the last ice Age.

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<v Speaker 2>And I go into some pretty detailed explanation of how

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<v Speaker 2>that describing that whole process. Here's here's the Azor's micro

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01:13:02.279 --> 01:13:05.000
<v Speaker 2>continent right here. You can see it, and you can

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01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:09.479
<v Speaker 2>see how it's west of the Pillars of Hercules. There are,

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<v Speaker 2>as he describes, there are islands on the way to Atlantis.

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01:13:13.439 --> 01:13:15.439
<v Speaker 2>Then you get to Atlantis, and then if you keep

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01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:18.239
<v Speaker 2>sailing beyond Atlantis, you get to what he says, the

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<v Speaker 2>opposite continent that's part of the true Ocean, which would

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<v Speaker 2>be the Atlantic as compared to the Mediterranean.

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<v Speaker 1>Does Plato actually use the word continent in his.

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<v Speaker 2>Writing, Well, he uses a Greek term that is translated

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<v Speaker 2>as continent. More so more so he uses the term nasos,

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01:13:43.680 --> 01:13:48.640
<v Speaker 2>which is island. And this would not be a true continent. Here,

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01:13:49.119 --> 01:13:52.319
<v Speaker 2>this is a feature now that's called a micro continent.

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<v Speaker 2>And so let me show you here. This is wow,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what I would consider now the dispersal paths. There,

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01:14:06.520 --> 01:14:10.239
<v Speaker 2>you got one path going to uh Morocco and the

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01:14:10.279 --> 01:14:15.079
<v Speaker 2>Atlas Mountains. There, you got one going to the Canaries. There,

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01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:18.119
<v Speaker 2>you've got one going to the Basque region. There, you've

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01:14:18.159 --> 01:14:21.479
<v Speaker 2>got one going up to southern England. There, you've got

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01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:25.560
<v Speaker 2>one going into the Mediterranean all the way to Egypt. There,

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01:14:25.600 --> 01:14:27.720
<v Speaker 2>you've got one going down to Cuba, which would have

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01:14:27.720 --> 01:14:32.439
<v Speaker 2>been likely an outlier for Atlantis. Here you've got one

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01:14:32.439 --> 01:14:35.039
<v Speaker 2>going to the Yucatan Peninsula and the Mayan So this

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01:14:35.119 --> 01:14:38.439
<v Speaker 2>fits exactly what you just said. And then I think

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01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:42.119
<v Speaker 2>we also got a migration to the southeastern United States.

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<v Speaker 1>So, I mean, I've always thought that there were satellites

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01:14:47.840 --> 01:14:52.279
<v Speaker 1>of Atlantis. These are dispersal.

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<v Speaker 2>Points for certainly, you know obviously when when this thing

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01:14:57.119 --> 01:15:03.840
<v Speaker 2>sank uh it was completely abandoned, right, But those are

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01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:08.239
<v Speaker 2>completely compatible ideas that you know that. And Plato describes

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01:15:08.279 --> 01:15:12.399
<v Speaker 2>that Atlantis was a far flung empire and traded with

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01:15:12.479 --> 01:15:16.359
<v Speaker 2>all kinds of other cultures around the world. So It's

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01:15:16.520 --> 01:15:19.159
<v Speaker 2>likely that these would have been outposts of Atlanta, and

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01:15:19.159 --> 01:15:21.920
<v Speaker 2>that would have been the natural places to go to

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01:15:21.960 --> 01:15:26.720
<v Speaker 2>seek refuge. If the homeland was about to be destroyed,

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01:15:27.960 --> 01:15:32.319
<v Speaker 2>these places where Atlanteans had already set up shop would

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01:15:32.319 --> 01:15:33.640
<v Speaker 2>be the obvious places to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a sense of them being cosmologically sophisticated

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01:15:37.439 --> 01:15:40.560
<v Speaker 1>enough to get the hell out of there before? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well see here's the thing. Sea levels started rising

1113
01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:50.760
<v Speaker 2>around fifteen thousand years ago. Plato describes the final destruction

1114
01:15:50.840 --> 01:15:54.640
<v Speaker 2>of Atlantis at eleven thousand, six hundred, which is the

1115
01:15:54.840 --> 01:16:00.159
<v Speaker 2>upper interestingly, the upper younger, driest boundary. Well, once the

1116
01:16:00.199 --> 01:16:04.439
<v Speaker 2>glaciers over North America and Europe started melting, sea levels

1117
01:16:04.439 --> 01:16:08.239
<v Speaker 2>started coming up. So if you have an island community

1118
01:16:08.279 --> 01:16:12.640
<v Speaker 2>and island civilization, I mean, think about all the concerns

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01:16:12.760 --> 01:16:15.119
<v Speaker 2>now about oh, sea level might rise two feet in

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<v Speaker 2>the next fifty years, and oh we got to be

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01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:20.239
<v Speaker 2>all in panic mode because of how it's going to

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01:16:20.279 --> 01:16:24.479
<v Speaker 2>affect our culture and our cities and communities that are

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01:16:24.520 --> 01:16:26.720
<v Speaker 2>on the coastline. Well, think about what a four hundred

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01:16:26.720 --> 01:16:30.600
<v Speaker 2>foot by sea level would do. Right, Well, So, if

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<v Speaker 2>you've got sea levels coming up relatively fast, well, what's happening. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you can see it. You can see it.

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01:16:39.039 --> 01:16:40.760
<v Speaker 2>From year to year, you're going to see those sea

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<v Speaker 2>levels rising, and as they're rising, they're encroaching latterly and

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<v Speaker 2>swallowing up land.

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<v Speaker 1>But my point, though, Randall, is you know we can

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01:16:50.600 --> 01:16:56.159
<v Speaker 1>see a comments tell we can see the impending I

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<v Speaker 1>would think hit of an asteroid. Were they sophisticated it

1133
01:17:00.359 --> 01:17:03.119
<v Speaker 1>at that time to be able to track it before

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01:17:03.159 --> 01:17:06.479
<v Speaker 1>an impact other than the rising of the ocean, obviously,

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01:17:06.520 --> 01:17:10.159
<v Speaker 1>But my thinking is that they did have enough sophistication

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01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:15.319
<v Speaker 1>to tell through telescopes or through whatever else that something

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01:17:15.439 --> 01:17:16.279
<v Speaker 1>was going to impact.

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<v Speaker 2>A close encounter of a comet is going to be

1139
01:17:19.199 --> 01:17:23.159
<v Speaker 2>a spectacular thing to see just with the naked eye.

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01:17:23.239 --> 01:17:25.039
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, can they see it months ahead of

1141
01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:26.399
<v Speaker 1>time or years ahead of time?

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what you got to remember. Let me stop share here.

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01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Here's what you need to remember is that you've got

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01:17:35.199 --> 01:17:37.439
<v Speaker 2>let's say you've got this is the Sun, and this

1145
01:17:37.640 --> 01:17:42.359
<v Speaker 2>is uh out here, this is Jupiter. This is the Sun.

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01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:45.920
<v Speaker 2>So now you've got a comet that's in an orbit

1147
01:17:46.119 --> 01:17:48.680
<v Speaker 2>that takes it out to Jupiter and then it comes

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01:17:48.720 --> 01:17:52.560
<v Speaker 2>back into the Sun. Now, is that comet's making that orbit,

1149
01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:57.880
<v Speaker 2>it could possibly be crossing Earth's orbit. Right, every time

1150
01:17:57.960 --> 01:18:01.880
<v Speaker 2>that comet is coming in towards the Sun, anybody on Earth,

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01:18:01.960 --> 01:18:04.399
<v Speaker 2>if it's coming close to the Earth, you're going to

1152
01:18:04.479 --> 01:18:08.079
<v Speaker 2>see it in the sky. Okay, it's going to be in.

1153
01:18:08.119 --> 01:18:11.680
<v Speaker 2>The closer it is, the more spectacular it's going to be. Right,

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01:18:11.760 --> 01:18:15.560
<v Speaker 2>So think about do you remember Shoemaker Levy nine in

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01:18:16.439 --> 01:18:20.239
<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety four when twenty one pieces hit Jupiter. Do

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01:18:20.239 --> 01:18:20.720
<v Speaker 2>you remember that?

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<v Speaker 1>Vaguely? I do remember hitting You said, hitting Jupiter. That's

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01:18:25.479 --> 01:18:28.920
<v Speaker 1>when it caught to me. Yeah, yeah, there was a comet. Okay,

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01:18:28.960 --> 01:18:32.279
<v Speaker 1>So now here's what's happening. Is this comet's going around.

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01:18:32.399 --> 01:18:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Let me do it this way. Is this comet's going around.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say here's Jupiter and it's coming around Jupiter, and

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01:18:37.520 --> 01:18:41.680
<v Speaker 1>then it's coming around the Sun. Well, under certain conditions,

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01:18:42.399 --> 01:18:48.000
<v Speaker 1>each passage of that comet will draw the heavy gravity

1164
01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:51.239
<v Speaker 1>field of Jupiter will draw it in closer. And that's

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01:18:51.279 --> 01:18:54.560
<v Speaker 1>what happened with Shoelaer Shoemaker Levy nine. It had undoubtedly

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01:18:54.600 --> 01:18:58.840
<v Speaker 1>been orbiting between Jupiter and the Sun for millennium, but

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01:18:59.039 --> 01:19:02.520
<v Speaker 1>each time it made passage Jupiter's like sucking it in

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01:19:02.640 --> 01:19:08.399
<v Speaker 1>closer and closer. Then in March of nineteen ninety three

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01:19:08.640 --> 01:19:16.880
<v Speaker 1>it was discovered using telescopes and Gene Shoemaker, Carolyn Shoemaker

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01:19:16.920 --> 01:19:20.239
<v Speaker 1>and David Levy were co discoverers, and they begin to

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01:19:20.319 --> 01:19:24.960
<v Speaker 1>study it. And comet orbits are elliptical, right, and they

1172
01:19:24.960 --> 01:19:28.119
<v Speaker 1>have a certain geometry. So if you have too, if

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01:19:28.119 --> 01:19:33.239
<v Speaker 1>you can recreate the orbital geometry, the shape and size

1174
01:19:33.399 --> 01:19:36.840
<v Speaker 1>of that ellipse, the orbital ellipse, and you can get

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01:19:36.840 --> 01:19:40.479
<v Speaker 1>the timing of it along enough of a section of

1176
01:19:40.479 --> 01:19:43.640
<v Speaker 1>that ellipse, you can now predict where it's going to

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01:19:43.680 --> 01:19:47.600
<v Speaker 1>be in the future. It took three months of observations

1178
01:19:47.680 --> 01:19:50.279
<v Speaker 1>and they were able to predict that in the next

1179
01:19:50.319 --> 01:19:52.279
<v Speaker 1>go round it was going to pass the Sun and

1180
01:19:52.359 --> 01:19:54.199
<v Speaker 1>head back out to Jupiter, and it was going to

1181
01:19:54.239 --> 01:19:58.800
<v Speaker 1>cross Jupiter's orbital path. But at the point where it's

1182
01:19:58.840 --> 01:20:02.000
<v Speaker 1>going to cross that orbit orbital path, it just so

1183
01:20:02.079 --> 01:20:04.079
<v Speaker 1>happened to Jupiter was going to be right there at

1184
01:20:04.079 --> 01:20:07.520
<v Speaker 1>that moment. At that weed they were able to predict

1185
01:20:07.640 --> 01:20:11.800
<v Speaker 1>that this comet which was had been ripped, had been

1186
01:20:11.840 --> 01:20:16.800
<v Speaker 1>a single object as it passed through Jupiter's hyper powerful

1187
01:20:16.840 --> 01:20:20.640
<v Speaker 1>gravity field. The gravity field ripped it apart into twenty

1188
01:20:20.680 --> 01:20:25.039
<v Speaker 1>one pieces. Wow, those twenty one pieces spread out and

1189
01:20:25.520 --> 01:20:28.720
<v Speaker 1>came back in the second week of July nineteen ninety four,

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01:20:28.920 --> 01:20:29.680
<v Speaker 1>just as predicted.

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01:20:30.760 --> 01:20:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Boom, boom, boom. One after another twenty one pieces slams

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01:20:35.960 --> 01:20:39.760
<v Speaker 2>into Jupiter. If any one of those pieces had hit

1193
01:20:39.840 --> 01:20:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Earth would have been that would have pulled the plug

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01:20:42.960 --> 01:20:47.159
<v Speaker 2>on human civilization. Really oh yeah, And if all twenty

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01:20:47.199 --> 01:20:49.000
<v Speaker 2>one of them had hit the Earth, that would have

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01:20:49.079 --> 01:20:54.800
<v Speaker 2>been mass extinction eighty ninety percent of all species humans,

1197
01:20:55.119 --> 01:20:57.880
<v Speaker 2>we would have been gone. Right, this happened and we

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01:20:57.920 --> 01:21:01.760
<v Speaker 2>witnessed it nineteen ninety four. Yeah. So, now here's the

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<v Speaker 2>thing I'm trying to get at. If you've got an

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01:21:04.920 --> 01:21:09.920
<v Speaker 2>object that's circling the Sun and even going out to

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01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Jupiter and it ultimately is an impactor on Earth, there's

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01:21:15.560 --> 01:21:18.840
<v Speaker 2>two types of impactors we can think of. One it

1203
01:21:18.880 --> 01:21:20.720
<v Speaker 2>comes out of the blue and we don't know it,

1204
01:21:20.800 --> 01:21:23.199
<v Speaker 2>no way to predict it, because it comes on its

1205
01:21:23.279 --> 01:21:27.720
<v Speaker 2>own path. It strikes the Earth, or it misses the

1206
01:21:27.800 --> 01:21:30.560
<v Speaker 2>Earth and goes back out into space never to return.

1207
01:21:31.760 --> 01:21:36.000
<v Speaker 2>If that's a long period comet, a short period comet

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01:21:36.119 --> 01:21:39.920
<v Speaker 2>is orbiting pretty much in the Earth's orbital plane, the

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01:21:39.960 --> 01:21:44.920
<v Speaker 2>plane of the ecliptic. And if we know that things

1210
01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:48.520
<v Speaker 2>hit the Earth, well before they hit the Earth, they're

1211
01:21:48.520 --> 01:21:52.640
<v Speaker 2>making this passage, this loop, and each loop they're being

1212
01:21:52.760 --> 01:21:57.680
<v Speaker 2>drawn in closer and closer to that moment of impact. Right,

1213
01:21:58.319 --> 01:22:01.600
<v Speaker 2>if you're a culture, you might witness a comet coming back,

1214
01:22:01.680 --> 01:22:05.039
<v Speaker 2>like Comet Ink, which is part of the Torred meteor stream,

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01:22:05.399 --> 01:22:09.399
<v Speaker 2>has a three point three year return. It comes back

1216
01:22:09.880 --> 01:22:12.840
<v Speaker 2>to the Sun every three point three years. Well, if

1217
01:22:12.880 --> 01:22:16.479
<v Speaker 2>you let's say that's a big comet nucleus, because Ankee

1218
01:22:16.680 --> 01:22:20.279
<v Speaker 2>probably was a small piece of a much bigger comet.

1219
01:22:20.520 --> 01:22:22.479
<v Speaker 2>So if you're watching that and it's part of the

1220
01:22:22.520 --> 01:22:25.399
<v Speaker 2>torred by the way, part of the torred stream, you're

1221
01:22:25.439 --> 01:22:28.000
<v Speaker 2>seeing that every three point three years, you're seeing this

1222
01:22:28.159 --> 01:22:30.800
<v Speaker 2>comet coming through the sky. First time you see it,

1223
01:22:30.800 --> 01:22:33.439
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty far out there. It's just a nice little site.

1224
01:22:33.439 --> 01:22:35.479
<v Speaker 2>It looks more like a bright star with a tail.

1225
01:22:35.760 --> 01:22:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Now three and point three years later you see it again,

1226
01:22:38.720 --> 01:22:42.319
<v Speaker 2>but now it's bigger and brighter. Three point three years

1227
01:22:42.399 --> 01:22:45.760
<v Speaker 2>later it's back again, and now it's even bigger and brighter. Right,

1228
01:22:46.239 --> 01:22:49.560
<v Speaker 2>you get what I'm seeing so just somebody witnessing this

1229
01:22:49.720 --> 01:22:53.359
<v Speaker 2>from the surface of the Earth might get pretty alarmed, say, hey,

1230
01:22:53.399 --> 01:22:55.319
<v Speaker 2>that thing is getting closer and closer.

1231
01:22:55.520 --> 01:22:57.840
<v Speaker 1>So you're saying that the Lentini has probably got the

1232
01:22:57.880 --> 01:23:02.640
<v Speaker 1>hell off the island fairly consistently because they're not guessing

1233
01:23:02.680 --> 01:23:05.039
<v Speaker 1>them that IMPACT's going to come, and they knew it

1234
01:23:05.079 --> 01:23:08.319
<v Speaker 1>was going to be coming soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think that there were a whole uh,

1236
01:23:12.279 --> 01:23:17.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, astronomical priesthoods whose job it was, we know this,

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<v Speaker 2>to watch the heavens. And in order to identify let's say,

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01:23:21.800 --> 01:23:27.199
<v Speaker 2>processional motion, you have to be uh obsessive skywatchers. And

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01:23:27.800 --> 01:23:30.479
<v Speaker 2>when we look at the tales of old, what we

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01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:34.520
<v Speaker 2>find over and over again is uh things like serpents,

1241
01:23:34.560 --> 01:23:38.760
<v Speaker 2>cosmic serpents, and dragons and heaven all of that. Well,

1242
01:23:38.800 --> 01:23:41.800
<v Speaker 2>that was the metaphor that was used for these celestial

1243
01:23:42.239 --> 01:23:47.359
<v Speaker 2>visitations of shooting stars, meteors, comets, asteroids and all of that.

1244
01:23:49.039 --> 01:23:51.840
<v Speaker 1>What are we doing today though, to cover our ass

1245
01:23:52.359 --> 01:23:53.039
<v Speaker 1>for not much?

1246
01:23:53.079 --> 01:23:54.000
<v Speaker 2>We're not doing enough.

1247
01:23:54.600 --> 01:23:57.279
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what's gonna happen if we get if

1248
01:23:57.279 --> 01:24:02.199
<v Speaker 1>we see somebody coming close solid body, we don't have

1249
01:24:02.239 --> 01:24:05.159
<v Speaker 1>anything to do to deflect it, Dewey.

1250
01:24:04.960 --> 01:24:07.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, we did. The Dark mission was the first test

1251
01:24:07.800 --> 01:24:12.119
<v Speaker 2>to see if it was realistic to nudge an object

1252
01:24:12.239 --> 01:24:15.319
<v Speaker 2>that was on an impact trajectory with the Earth to

1253
01:24:15.439 --> 01:24:18.119
<v Speaker 2>nudge it enough so it would miss the Earth. We

1254
01:24:18.199 --> 01:24:21.199
<v Speaker 2>have the potential, I mean, we could. I'm a huge

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01:24:21.279 --> 01:24:24.640
<v Speaker 2>advocate of the creation of a planetary defense system because

1256
01:24:24.640 --> 01:24:27.960
<v Speaker 2>I've been tracking this obsessively from the nineteen eighties and

1257
01:24:28.039 --> 01:24:32.920
<v Speaker 2>I know how frequently cosmic debris flies by the Earth

1258
01:24:33.319 --> 01:24:36.119
<v Speaker 2>that could have devastating consequences if it was just a

1259
01:24:36.119 --> 01:24:41.039
<v Speaker 2>little bit closer. Right, it's an overlooked hazard because the old,

1260
01:24:41.079 --> 01:24:45.600
<v Speaker 2>obsolete models are putting major impacts that tens to hundreds

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01:24:45.640 --> 01:24:49.039
<v Speaker 2>of thousands of years apart. The new data suggests that

1262
01:24:49.079 --> 01:24:51.560
<v Speaker 2>there's a whole lot been, a whole lot more impacts,

1263
01:24:52.840 --> 01:24:56.880
<v Speaker 2>more closely clustered than we had imagined twenty five years ago.

1264
01:24:57.199 --> 01:25:00.279
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think we've adjusted to that because part

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01:25:00.279 --> 01:25:04.840
<v Speaker 2>of the problem is that there are vested interests, for example,

1266
01:25:04.920 --> 01:25:09.359
<v Speaker 2>that don't want humans to be thinking about cosmic impacts

1267
01:25:09.399 --> 01:25:15.279
<v Speaker 2>because that might detract from the manufactured narrative of a

1268
01:25:15.319 --> 01:25:21.560
<v Speaker 2>carbon dioxide driven climate change or global warming, which in

1269
01:25:21.600 --> 01:25:26.600
<v Speaker 2>my opinion is pretty much manufactured on flimsy evidence, and

1270
01:25:26.640 --> 01:25:30.199
<v Speaker 2>that's something we could certainly talk about in another episode.

1271
01:25:30.359 --> 01:25:33.479
<v Speaker 2>But every time now that there is a what happened

1272
01:25:33.479 --> 01:25:36.520
<v Speaker 2>in North Carolina with the flooding, what just happened, And

1273
01:25:36.600 --> 01:25:39.239
<v Speaker 2>I knew instantly when this was going on that they

1274
01:25:39.239 --> 01:25:42.359
<v Speaker 2>would be trotting out the global warming scenario to explain it.

1275
01:25:42.560 --> 01:25:44.359
<v Speaker 2>But then that ignores the fact that there have been

1276
01:25:44.399 --> 01:25:48.560
<v Speaker 2>at least like four other equivalent scale flood events in

1277
01:25:48.600 --> 01:25:53.479
<v Speaker 2>that watershed in the last hundred years. So there's this

1278
01:25:53.520 --> 01:25:59.079
<v Speaker 2>whole agenda right now that is using the climate crisis,

1279
01:25:59.119 --> 01:26:04.439
<v Speaker 2>as they're calling it now to control energy production, distribution,

1280
01:26:04.600 --> 01:26:07.479
<v Speaker 2>and consumption. And that's the out I mean, that is

1281
01:26:07.720 --> 01:26:13.079
<v Speaker 2>the final result of the implementation of net zero policies.

1282
01:26:13.199 --> 01:26:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Net zero is going to require total control of energy,

1283
01:26:18.199 --> 01:26:24.560
<v Speaker 2>all energy use, right, and then you've got it gets complicated,

1284
01:26:24.600 --> 01:26:27.359
<v Speaker 2>and certainly it's something I feel is important to talk about.

1285
01:26:27.920 --> 01:26:31.840
<v Speaker 2>But the point is is that things happen naturally and

1286
01:26:32.239 --> 01:26:35.079
<v Speaker 2>humans could abandon the planet. We could all shut down

1287
01:26:35.119 --> 01:26:38.720
<v Speaker 2>our SUVs and our cars and quit using air conditioning

1288
01:26:38.760 --> 01:26:42.840
<v Speaker 2>and live in intents, right, but that's not going to

1289
01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:46.800
<v Speaker 2>stop catastrophic events, weather events from happening.

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01:26:47.239 --> 01:26:50.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess My point is that I haven't heard

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01:26:50.479 --> 01:26:56.279
<v Speaker 1>from NASA or any special space agency talk about repelling

1292
01:26:56.880 --> 01:27:00.439
<v Speaker 1>an asteroid or a meteor that could be a triminating.

1293
01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:05.479
<v Speaker 2>Well, look up, look up the Dark Mission, Dart Dark Mission,

1294
01:27:05.840 --> 01:27:08.239
<v Speaker 2>you'll find some stuff there. But the point I was

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01:27:08.239 --> 01:27:11.760
<v Speaker 2>trying to make, Cliff, is that there are factions, agenda

1296
01:27:11.840 --> 01:27:16.000
<v Speaker 2>driven factions that only want people to focus on carbon

1297
01:27:16.039 --> 01:27:19.640
<v Speaker 2>dioxide and what that's going to do. And that's important,

1298
01:27:19.720 --> 01:27:25.600
<v Speaker 2>of course, But to me, the possibility and potential of

1299
01:27:25.640 --> 01:27:31.800
<v Speaker 2>a cosmic impact is orders of magnitude more important than

1300
01:27:32.680 --> 01:27:36.279
<v Speaker 2>what carbon dioxide is doing, because carbon dioxide has a

1301
01:27:36.439 --> 01:27:41.640
<v Speaker 2>limited ability to capture thermal energy, and four hundred parts

1302
01:27:41.680 --> 01:27:47.520
<v Speaker 2>per million is already past that limitation now, So most

1303
01:27:47.560 --> 01:27:50.720
<v Speaker 2>of the heat that is being captured by carbon dioxide

1304
01:27:50.760 --> 01:27:53.880
<v Speaker 2>in the atmosphere takes place in the first fifty two

1305
01:27:53.960 --> 01:27:58.119
<v Speaker 2>hundred parts per million, okay, and then it declines rapidly

1306
01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:00.319
<v Speaker 2>from there, like what would be called an in verse

1307
01:28:00.399 --> 01:28:05.560
<v Speaker 2>logarithmic scale, so that each increment of additional carbon dioxide

1308
01:28:05.840 --> 01:28:09.319
<v Speaker 2>is only going to capture one tenth as much heat

1309
01:28:09.479 --> 01:28:14.960
<v Speaker 2>as an equivalent previous increment of carbon dixe. So the

1310
01:28:14.960 --> 01:28:17.560
<v Speaker 2>more you add up to a point, the more you add,

1311
01:28:18.159 --> 01:28:21.279
<v Speaker 2>the less heat's going to be captured. And we're past

1312
01:28:21.359 --> 01:28:24.560
<v Speaker 2>that at four hundred plus parts per million, were past that,

1313
01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:30.960
<v Speaker 2>so it's not really an issue. Is the average temperature

1314
01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:34.479
<v Speaker 2>appear to be getting warmer? Yes, for two reasons. One

1315
01:28:34.560 --> 01:28:37.399
<v Speaker 2>because our baseline was the end of the Little Ice Age,

1316
01:28:37.479 --> 01:28:42.039
<v Speaker 2>the coldest millennia of the last ten thousand years. So

1317
01:28:42.039 --> 01:28:44.439
<v Speaker 2>if you use that as a baseline, and that'd be

1318
01:28:44.560 --> 01:28:46.920
<v Speaker 2>like saying, oh, well, we're going to take early March

1319
01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:49.399
<v Speaker 2>is our baseline, and then in July we're going to

1320
01:28:49.520 --> 01:28:53.239
<v Speaker 2>argue that the planet is you know, change, a planet

1321
01:28:53.319 --> 01:28:59.119
<v Speaker 2>is in a warming phase. It's unprecedentedly warm. Well, yeah,

1322
01:28:59.159 --> 01:29:02.920
<v Speaker 2>it will be if your baseline is early March, you know,

1323
01:29:03.079 --> 01:29:06.199
<v Speaker 2>and now you're talking about July. Well, the Little Ice

1324
01:29:06.239 --> 01:29:09.439
<v Speaker 2>Age was the coldest millennia of the last ten or

1325
01:29:09.439 --> 01:29:12.960
<v Speaker 2>twelve thousand years, so that's our baseline. The second thing

1326
01:29:13.079 --> 01:29:15.239
<v Speaker 2>is is that a lot of the warming has to

1327
01:29:15.279 --> 01:29:19.960
<v Speaker 2>do with the growth of urban complexes, and most of

1328
01:29:19.960 --> 01:29:24.239
<v Speaker 2>our weather data comes from weather monitoring stations that were

1329
01:29:24.279 --> 01:29:27.840
<v Speaker 2>installed at airports. Well, if you look at an airport

1330
01:29:28.159 --> 01:29:30.880
<v Speaker 2>fifty years ago, and then you look at it now,

1331
01:29:31.399 --> 01:29:33.640
<v Speaker 2>what you're going to see is that it's you know,

1332
01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:36.319
<v Speaker 2>it may have been a rural airport fifty years ago,

1333
01:29:36.439 --> 01:29:39.920
<v Speaker 2>and now it's surrounded by concrete and asphalt and buildings,

1334
01:29:40.760 --> 01:29:44.359
<v Speaker 2>air conditioning, condensing units, all of these things like that

1335
01:29:44.439 --> 01:29:48.119
<v Speaker 2>are absorbing heat. And the cities, now some of the

1336
01:29:48.119 --> 01:29:54.119
<v Speaker 2>major cities are implementing mitigation efforts to lessen the impact

1337
01:29:54.520 --> 01:29:59.319
<v Speaker 2>of that urban heat island defect. Well, well, you're not

1338
01:29:59.359 --> 01:30:03.880
<v Speaker 2>being told when you're getting okay, here is the unprecedented

1339
01:30:04.359 --> 01:30:08.039
<v Speaker 2>warmest temperature every here's records are being broken. What you're

1340
01:30:08.079 --> 01:30:12.479
<v Speaker 2>not being told is that those records mostly are coming

1341
01:30:12.479 --> 01:30:16.640
<v Speaker 2>from urban areas that anywhere from three to ten degrees

1342
01:30:16.840 --> 01:30:21.119
<v Speaker 2>warmer than the surrounding rural countryside. That's called the urban

1343
01:30:21.159 --> 01:30:24.439
<v Speaker 2>heat island effect. So there's a lot of manipulation going

1344
01:30:24.479 --> 01:30:27.920
<v Speaker 2>on that people who have not looked into this don't understand,

1345
01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:32.239
<v Speaker 2>and so they're easily manipulated. They're easily indoctrinated into believing

1346
01:30:32.319 --> 01:30:35.760
<v Speaker 2>this is a crisis. Yet there are things you watch

1347
01:30:35.840 --> 01:30:38.239
<v Speaker 2>within the next month or two will probably see a

1348
01:30:38.319 --> 01:30:42.199
<v Speaker 2>major flyby. They're coming by every few months now fly by.

1349
01:30:43.079 --> 01:30:44.199
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean by flyby?

1350
01:30:44.520 --> 01:30:49.960
<v Speaker 2>A flyby like an asteroid type? Oh okay, flying by

1351
01:30:50.039 --> 01:30:50.479
<v Speaker 2>the Earth?

1352
01:30:52.319 --> 01:30:54.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wow, amazing.

1353
01:30:54.960 --> 01:30:58.439
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, if you want to know about asteroid mitigation efforts,

1354
01:30:58.479 --> 01:31:02.720
<v Speaker 2>look up the Dark Dat Dark Mission game and that'll

1355
01:31:02.760 --> 01:31:05.239
<v Speaker 2>tell you. So those are that's like our first inroads

1356
01:31:05.279 --> 01:31:09.159
<v Speaker 2>into this effort to look at how we might implement

1357
01:31:09.199 --> 01:31:12.920
<v Speaker 2>a planetary defense system. I am trying to I now

1358
01:31:12.960 --> 01:31:16.039
<v Speaker 2>know a few people that are working in the Space

1359
01:31:16.119 --> 01:31:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Force and at one point Matt Lomyer, I don't know

1360
01:31:19.760 --> 01:31:21.800
<v Speaker 2>if you know who Matt Lomier.

1361
01:31:21.560 --> 01:31:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Is, is not familiar.

1362
01:31:23.079 --> 01:31:27.319
<v Speaker 2>He wrote this book right here, Irresistible Revolution. Matt Lomier.

1363
01:31:28.079 --> 01:31:32.279
<v Speaker 2>This is him here, Lieutenant Colonel Matt Lomyer. He was

1364
01:31:32.760 --> 01:31:35.439
<v Speaker 2>set up as one of the second or i think

1365
01:31:35.520 --> 01:31:38.439
<v Speaker 2>second in command of Space Force when it was He's

1366
01:31:38.680 --> 01:31:42.640
<v Speaker 2>highly trained. He's like the top gun Tom Cruise movie guy.

1367
01:31:42.680 --> 01:31:48.199
<v Speaker 2>He's like that guy. Right. Anyways, he was in line

1368
01:31:48.239 --> 01:31:50.520
<v Speaker 2>to become a head of Space Force, but he wrote

1369
01:31:50.680 --> 01:31:56.039
<v Speaker 2>this book right there about the wokeness that was infiltrating

1370
01:31:56.079 --> 01:31:58.960
<v Speaker 2>and infecting the military, and he didn't think this was

1371
01:31:59.000 --> 01:32:02.520
<v Speaker 2>a good thing. He wrote this book and he went

1372
01:32:02.560 --> 01:32:05.760
<v Speaker 2>on a couple of interviews like we're doing right here,

1373
01:32:05.760 --> 01:32:08.079
<v Speaker 2>and he talked about why he thought it was going

1374
01:32:08.119 --> 01:32:12.000
<v Speaker 2>to harm the mission of the US military. He got

1375
01:32:12.039 --> 01:32:15.840
<v Speaker 2>booted Biden years. Yeah, he got the boot, which in

1376
01:32:15.880 --> 01:32:19.760
<v Speaker 2>effect proved what he was saying. Here's this hiding and

1377
01:32:19.880 --> 01:32:23.079
<v Speaker 2>millions of dollars invested in him to train him to

1378
01:32:23.119 --> 01:32:26.159
<v Speaker 2>become one of the top and you know, and I

1379
01:32:26.199 --> 01:32:30.439
<v Speaker 2>mean his his resume is extraordinary. But so yeah, he

1380
01:32:30.479 --> 01:32:33.520
<v Speaker 2>got the boot for speaking his mind about this and

1381
01:32:33.640 --> 01:32:37.560
<v Speaker 2>which proved his point right there. So anyways, what I'm

1382
01:32:37.560 --> 01:32:41.039
<v Speaker 2>getting at is, before he got the boot, we had

1383
01:32:41.239 --> 01:32:45.319
<v Speaker 2>he was organizing a conference where he was going to

1384
01:32:45.359 --> 01:32:48.039
<v Speaker 2>have like forty or fifty of the base commanders of

1385
01:32:48.079 --> 01:32:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Space Force and I was going to go and I

1386
01:32:49.760 --> 01:32:53.720
<v Speaker 2>was going to present a give a presentation on the

1387
01:32:53.760 --> 01:32:57.039
<v Speaker 2>importance of planetary defense and why I thought that should

1388
01:32:57.039 --> 01:32:59.159
<v Speaker 2>become a major part of the mission of Space Force.

1389
01:32:59.600 --> 01:33:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Well then COVID came along and didn't.

1390
01:33:03.279 --> 01:33:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Happen, wiped everything out.

1391
01:33:05.119 --> 01:33:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Wiped everything out. So then once they started opening up

1392
01:33:08.720 --> 01:33:12.520
<v Speaker 2>again and said you can start gathering, he started reorganizing

1393
01:33:12.760 --> 01:33:17.239
<v Speaker 2>to do again, to do the same conference. Well then

1394
01:33:17.359 --> 01:33:20.479
<v Speaker 2>his book came out and he got booted and so

1395
01:33:20.560 --> 01:33:23.520
<v Speaker 2>it never happened. But since then, I've met a couple

1396
01:33:23.520 --> 01:33:28.319
<v Speaker 2>of people now who are in Space Force, smart young

1397
01:33:28.399 --> 01:33:31.920
<v Speaker 2>men that have gone into Space Force, and hopefully it'll

1398
01:33:31.920 --> 01:33:35.680
<v Speaker 2>come back around again. And I if you know, if

1399
01:33:35.680 --> 01:33:38.399
<v Speaker 2>I get the invite or get the opportunity, I will

1400
01:33:38.399 --> 01:33:43.399
<v Speaker 2>most definitely go in and give my presentation on you.

1401
01:33:43.560 --> 01:33:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you would think it would be more outwardly

1402
01:33:45.960 --> 01:33:48.560
<v Speaker 1>presented to the public rather than a black box or

1403
01:33:48.560 --> 01:33:51.199
<v Speaker 1>a black ops kind of a project for the military,

1404
01:33:51.239 --> 01:33:54.560
<v Speaker 1>because you got to tell people what the potential is.

1405
01:33:54.640 --> 01:33:57.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, if there's an asteroid that's coming close to

1406
01:33:57.680 --> 01:34:01.079
<v Speaker 1>us that could affect not only our weather but actually

1407
01:34:01.079 --> 01:34:03.279
<v Speaker 1>have an impact, that's pretty serious, you know.

1408
01:34:04.159 --> 01:34:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, absolutely it is. And it's like I said,

1409
01:34:08.800 --> 01:34:14.399
<v Speaker 2>it's it's an overlooked issue, which is too bad. I

1410
01:34:14.439 --> 01:34:17.920
<v Speaker 2>would really like to see I would really like to

1411
01:34:17.920 --> 01:34:21.079
<v Speaker 2>see more attention given to that. And I'm gonna just

1412
01:34:21.359 --> 01:34:23.359
<v Speaker 2>I think I've got something here, handy. Let me see

1413
01:34:23.359 --> 01:34:24.319
<v Speaker 2>if it's handy, and I will.

1414
01:34:24.560 --> 01:34:27.640
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be your final final graphic, and then

1415
01:34:27.680 --> 01:34:29.840
<v Speaker 1>we got to let you go. I promised ninety minutes.

1416
01:34:29.840 --> 01:34:31.640
<v Speaker 1>And as work, we're getting over the hour there.

1417
01:34:31.880 --> 01:34:34.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh well yeah, and like I've got a hard stop

1418
01:34:34.479 --> 01:34:35.600
<v Speaker 2>coming up in a minute.

1419
01:34:35.600 --> 01:34:38.279
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, that's why I wanted to kind of conclude

1420
01:34:38.359 --> 01:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>us here.

1421
01:34:39.039 --> 01:34:41.479
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well let's let's let's leave it with this then

1422
01:34:41.600 --> 01:34:44.079
<v Speaker 2>I will I'll show you when I got here, well

1423
01:34:45.239 --> 01:34:48.960
<v Speaker 2>very quickly, just to create impression.

1424
01:34:52.279 --> 01:34:54.479
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty harrowing, my friend.

1425
01:34:54.760 --> 01:34:57.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, see, this is what people don't know. And so

1426
01:34:57.279 --> 01:35:00.479
<v Speaker 2>I've gone through here. You can see. I started in

1427
01:35:00.520 --> 01:35:06.000
<v Speaker 2>the late eighties monitoring every close encounter we had, and

1428
01:35:06.359 --> 01:35:08.760
<v Speaker 2>you can see here if I just go through.

1429
01:35:08.880 --> 01:35:11.119
<v Speaker 1>Wow, you actually had the actual dimensions of.

1430
01:35:11.079 --> 01:35:14.039
<v Speaker 2>These Oh yeah, yeah, I've done a whole study. Near

1431
01:35:14.079 --> 01:35:18.359
<v Speaker 2>Miss asteroid revealed its two bodies, all eyes on near

1432
01:35:18.399 --> 01:35:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Miss asteroid. It was a close call for planet Earth.

1433
01:35:23.279 --> 01:35:28.159
<v Speaker 2>This is great. Yeah. On at midnight Greenwich meantime, on

1434
01:35:28.199 --> 01:35:32.560
<v Speaker 2>August tenth, nineteen ninety eight, asteroid mL fourteen crossed the

1435
01:35:32.720 --> 01:35:35.439
<v Speaker 2>orbit of the Earth at the exact point that the

1436
01:35:35.560 --> 01:35:40.520
<v Speaker 2>latter had occupied eighteen hours earlier. Had mL fourteen reached

1437
01:35:40.520 --> 01:35:43.279
<v Speaker 2>that point at six am the previous morning, an area

1438
01:35:43.279 --> 01:35:46.319
<v Speaker 2>of the size of France would have been totally devastated.

1439
01:35:46.359 --> 01:35:49.600
<v Speaker 2>By six oh five. Most of the world's vegetation would

1440
01:35:49.640 --> 01:35:52.319
<v Speaker 2>have been in flames by eight o'clock and thirty to

1441
01:35:52.439 --> 01:35:54.479
<v Speaker 2>forty percent of the human race would have been dead

1442
01:35:54.520 --> 01:35:57.720
<v Speaker 2>or dying by late October. Now, this was a near miss,

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01:35:57.880 --> 01:36:02.199
<v Speaker 2>and this is happening frequently. So you can see asteroid

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01:36:02.279 --> 01:36:07.479
<v Speaker 2>estimates too low, asteroid makes close approach, Scientists worry over asteroids,

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01:36:09.399 --> 01:36:14.720
<v Speaker 2>huge asteroid narrowly And these are all separate events. See wow,

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01:36:15.479 --> 01:36:20.560
<v Speaker 2>large asteroid passes close to Earth. Asteroid buzzes Earth too

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01:36:20.600 --> 01:36:24.199
<v Speaker 2>close for comfort. Asteroid passed within seventy five thousand miles

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<v Speaker 2>of the Earth. This is just like a This is

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01:36:25.920 --> 01:36:29.279
<v Speaker 2>almost like scraping the earth. See, so we could go

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01:36:29.359 --> 01:36:32.479
<v Speaker 2>through this and it goes on and on and on.

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01:36:33.039 --> 01:36:37.159
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing that they're actually presenting it news as newsworthy.

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01:36:38.119 --> 01:36:38.840
<v Speaker 1>But it's out there.

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<v Speaker 2>But see, it's getting lost in the noise, is what's happening,

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01:36:42.479 --> 01:36:48.399
<v Speaker 2>Because there's so much bullshit now, Cliff, that people aren't

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01:36:48.399 --> 01:36:52.039
<v Speaker 2>paying attention to the To me, one of the most

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01:36:52.079 --> 01:36:55.359
<v Speaker 2>important issues facing our civilization right now is what I'm

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01:36:55.399 --> 01:36:58.840
<v Speaker 2>showing you right here. Because it goes on and on

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01:36:59.039 --> 01:37:03.359
<v Speaker 2>and on and and that's why I call this While

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01:37:03.399 --> 01:37:07.760
<v Speaker 2>mankind sleeps. Part of what I'm trying to do, Cliff

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01:37:07.840 --> 01:37:11.800
<v Speaker 2>is wake mankind the hell up and realize our planet

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01:37:11.880 --> 01:37:14.119
<v Speaker 2>is part of a larger ecosystem and we've got to

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01:37:14.159 --> 01:37:18.279
<v Speaker 2>start thinking big wow. And that's that's my message. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go out of here. Stop there.

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<v Speaker 1>Randall Carlson, always a pleasure to have you on the program,

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01:37:26.239 --> 01:37:30.880
<v Speaker 1>and uh, very very insightful data. Hey, give us your

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01:37:31.439 --> 01:37:33.319
<v Speaker 1>your latest social media. I know you've got a new

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01:37:33.319 --> 01:37:36.319
<v Speaker 1>website your building, but give us your website how people

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01:37:36.359 --> 01:37:37.079
<v Speaker 1>can reach out.

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01:37:36.960 --> 01:37:42.760
<v Speaker 2>To you, Randall, Randallcarlton dot com. That's going to get you. Also,

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01:37:42.880 --> 01:37:47.680
<v Speaker 2>howtube dot com. I'm partners with with them now and

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01:37:47.680 --> 01:37:50.960
<v Speaker 2>they're hosting all my stuff. I'm also on Rombele. But

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01:37:51.119 --> 01:37:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Randallcarlton dot com should get to where.

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01:37:54.439 --> 01:37:57.119
<v Speaker 1>We should mention that you're rebuilding your website, So is

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01:37:57.159 --> 01:37:59.319
<v Speaker 1>a new one going to be up by summer end

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01:37:59.359 --> 01:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>of summer or.

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01:38:00.279 --> 01:38:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, it should be up. At the rate

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01:38:02.640 --> 01:38:04.720
<v Speaker 2>it's going, it could be in two.

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<v Speaker 1>Weeks, amazing. And we should also mention that you're gonna

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01:38:08.840 --> 01:38:12.439
<v Speaker 1>be all over the media here shortly, so you're you

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01:38:12.600 --> 01:38:14.359
<v Speaker 1>still have celebrity status.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, All night.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Man, great having you on the program. You're a blast.

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01:38:23.880 --> 01:38:25.319
<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate it. Thanks for joining.

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01:38:25.359 --> 01:38:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Thanks Cliff, I've always enjoyed getting together with you. One

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01:38:28.600 --> 01:38:31.039
<v Speaker 2>of these days. I hope we have never met in person.

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01:38:31.159 --> 01:38:34.039
<v Speaker 1>We haven't, you know. And we're gonna meet at Cosmic

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01:38:34.119 --> 01:38:37.640
<v Speaker 1>somebody I'm hoping to go next year. Get my act together, uh,

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01:38:38.479 --> 01:38:41.399
<v Speaker 1>and I'll meet you in person, So pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, shake your hand and give you a bro hug,

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01:38:46.439 --> 01:38:47.600
<v Speaker 2>go have dinner whatever.

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01:38:48.199 --> 01:38:52.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have a local brew. I'm a micro brew guy. Okay,

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01:38:52.479 --> 01:38:55.439
<v Speaker 1>all right, Hey, thanks again, Man, you got it.

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01:38:55.520 --> 01:38:56.279
<v Speaker 2>My friend.

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01:38:59.520 --> 01:39:01.359
<v Speaker 1>Right is a good one to have on the program

1495
01:39:01.439 --> 01:39:08.880
<v Speaker 1>because he demonstrates with graphs, photographs, and other images quite regularly,

1496
01:39:09.359 --> 01:39:12.279
<v Speaker 1>and we have it all for you on our YouTube

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01:39:12.359 --> 01:39:15.039
<v Speaker 1>channel Earth Just go to YouTube and go to Earth Ancients.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be up no later than the twenty six,

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01:39:19.119 --> 01:39:22.520
<v Speaker 1>which is a few days from now. We're gonna try

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01:39:22.560 --> 01:39:25.680
<v Speaker 1>to get it up midweek. We're still slowly moving to

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01:39:26.520 --> 01:39:29.800
<v Speaker 1>get our videos up around the same time that we

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01:39:29.880 --> 01:39:33.920
<v Speaker 1>released the audio our podcast at Earth Ancients here. So

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01:39:34.439 --> 01:39:38.119
<v Speaker 1>real fun having him on the program, and we're gonna

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01:39:38.119 --> 01:39:41.119
<v Speaker 1>do a best of the best with Randall probably before

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01:39:41.159 --> 01:39:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the end of the year. We have a best of

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01:39:43.000 --> 01:39:46.720
<v Speaker 1>the best we're working with with for Graham Hancock, and

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01:39:46.760 --> 01:39:50.479
<v Speaker 1>we got a nice one for Robert Temple. We've had

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01:39:50.520 --> 01:39:53.479
<v Speaker 1>Robert on the program three times already and we're gonna

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01:39:53.479 --> 01:39:56.920
<v Speaker 1>have him on again talking about a new book that

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01:39:57.000 --> 01:40:00.279
<v Speaker 1>he's working on. And you know, it's funny because he

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01:40:00.359 --> 01:40:04.760
<v Speaker 1>has actually been around longer than Graham Hancock, and some

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01:40:04.840 --> 01:40:07.279
<v Speaker 1>of his early books are not really recognized. He has

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01:40:07.319 --> 01:40:11.239
<v Speaker 1>a book on Egypt that is phenomenal. And if you

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01:40:11.239 --> 01:40:14.079
<v Speaker 1>haven't heard of Robert Temple, do a search for him.

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01:40:14.920 --> 01:40:19.399
<v Speaker 1>He is kind of an early research investigator, worked with

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01:40:19.439 --> 01:40:23.239
<v Speaker 1>people like Robert Beaval and John Anthony West and many

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01:40:23.279 --> 01:40:29.000
<v Speaker 1>many others searching out the various mysteries from our ancient past.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyhow, I hope you enjoyed Randall Carlton. He's always

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01:40:32.319 --> 01:40:35.920
<v Speaker 1>fun to have on the program. And when I mentioned

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01:40:35.960 --> 01:40:39.199
<v Speaker 1>Earth Ancients does tours, we have a couple of tours

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01:40:39.199 --> 01:40:41.479
<v Speaker 1>coming up. We have our final tour of the year,

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01:40:41.520 --> 01:40:45.119
<v Speaker 1>which is our Sacred Temples of Guatemala December first through

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01:40:45.119 --> 01:40:47.800
<v Speaker 1>the twelfth. This is a great tour. We're about half

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01:40:47.840 --> 01:40:50.119
<v Speaker 1>four we're only taking twenty people. The reason this is

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01:40:50.239 --> 01:40:53.239
<v Speaker 1>unique is in Mexico, and we do Mexico every year

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01:40:53.279 --> 01:40:56.399
<v Speaker 1>as well. You can't climb any of the pyramids, you

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01:40:56.439 --> 01:41:00.279
<v Speaker 1>cannot move around the temples, you can't do strangely, can't

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01:41:00.279 --> 01:41:04.920
<v Speaker 1>do any ceremonies with shaman, any meditative practices. Is very,

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01:41:05.159 --> 01:41:11.840
<v Speaker 1>very restrictive because of the Catholic Church. Why because they

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01:41:11.840 --> 01:41:16.359
<v Speaker 1>are afraid people will become enlightened. And that's pretty sad.

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01:41:16.760 --> 01:41:22.159
<v Speaker 1>In Guatemala, it's a completely different story. There's shaman doing ceremony.

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<v Speaker 1>There are techniques for working with the energies of the pyramids.

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01:41:27.560 --> 01:41:31.560
<v Speaker 1>We will climb, we will integrate with the pyramids, and

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01:41:31.640 --> 01:41:34.920
<v Speaker 1>we will have a great time. The entire itinerary for

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01:41:35.000 --> 01:41:38.479
<v Speaker 1>this tour is on Earth Ancients, Go to Earth Ancients

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01:41:39.039 --> 01:41:43.000
<v Speaker 1>dot com forward slash tours. See the entire itinerary. And

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01:41:43.079 --> 01:41:47.199
<v Speaker 1>one last thing. We have the best prices. I'm always

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01:41:47.239 --> 01:41:51.840
<v Speaker 1>looking at our competitors, and most competitors are double. We're

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01:41:52.039 --> 01:41:56.560
<v Speaker 1>half of what most competitors charge for our tours. Okay,

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01:41:56.840 --> 01:42:02.000
<v Speaker 1>so that's Guatemala. We have a megalithic that is coming

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01:42:02.079 --> 01:42:06.079
<v Speaker 1>up April twenty eighth through May tenth of twenty twenty six.

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01:42:06.520 --> 01:42:10.479
<v Speaker 1>This is with Mohammed Ebrahim and the Sabatur team, and

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01:42:10.520 --> 01:42:12.279
<v Speaker 1>this is a great tour because we're going to be

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01:42:12.399 --> 01:42:18.840
<v Speaker 1>specifically looking for sites that have megalithic sculpture, megalithic buildings,

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01:42:18.920 --> 01:42:26.239
<v Speaker 1>and pyramidal structures, including the Hajuara Labyrinth and the pyramid

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01:42:26.279 --> 01:42:29.720
<v Speaker 1>in that area. And these are sites that are rarely visited.

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01:42:30.079 --> 01:42:33.960
<v Speaker 1>That is going to be a beauty. That's a rare

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01:42:34.640 --> 01:42:38.560
<v Speaker 1>chance to see some of the largest sculptures in the world,

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01:42:38.680 --> 01:42:42.760
<v Speaker 1>including the Ramsey two sculpture in Memphis. If you have

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01:42:42.880 --> 01:42:47.000
<v Speaker 1>not seen the Ramsey two sculpture, it's totally out of place.

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01:42:47.560 --> 01:42:49.640
<v Speaker 1>They don't know how it was carved. It was carved

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01:42:50.039 --> 01:42:53.880
<v Speaker 1>likely from a seven hundred ton block of granite. The

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01:42:54.039 --> 01:42:58.119
<v Speaker 1>exquisite nature of the carving is unusual. And if you

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01:42:58.159 --> 01:43:00.079
<v Speaker 1>want to see a picture of it, go to so

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01:43:00.600 --> 01:43:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Facebook can go to either my profile which is Cliff Dunning,

1556
01:43:05.439 --> 01:43:08.439
<v Speaker 1>or go to Facebook and go to Earth Ancients, either

1557
01:43:08.479 --> 01:43:12.159
<v Speaker 1>the group or the either the private or the group

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01:43:12.199 --> 01:43:17.479
<v Speaker 1>page public page and see this monstrosity. How they carve

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01:43:17.600 --> 01:43:20.760
<v Speaker 1>these sculptures is beyond any of the pharaohs, any of

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01:43:20.800 --> 01:43:24.960
<v Speaker 1>the dynastic periods. In fact, most archaeologists scratch their head

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01:43:25.279 --> 01:43:29.159
<v Speaker 1>and wonder why so. The Megalithic Tour of Egypt again

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01:43:29.279 --> 01:43:32.800
<v Speaker 1>is April twenty eighth through May tenth. For the full itenerary,

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01:43:32.920 --> 01:43:37.720
<v Speaker 1>go to Earth Ancients, dot com forward slash Tours, come

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01:43:37.760 --> 01:43:41.239
<v Speaker 1>out and join us. All right, that's it for this show.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to think my guest today, Randall Carlson. Always

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01:43:43.760 --> 01:43:47.640
<v Speaker 1>a blast having Randall on the program as always, the

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01:43:47.680 --> 01:43:54.119
<v Speaker 1>team of Gail Tour, Mark Foster and Fasil Parves. You

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01:43:54.159 --> 01:43:58.000
<v Speaker 1>guys rock all right, take care, be well and we

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<v Speaker 1>will talk to you next time.
