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Speaker 1: That's a catchy one, isn't it. It's got a great

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hook that has burned that bridge. The band is the

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Great Curtain, and I think we have Dennis on the

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line with us. Dennis, are you there?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I am Dennis.

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Speaker 1: What have you got? What have you got going on

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this weekend? You've got no Masters Fest? Right? Tell us

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, Well we had no Master's Fest last night one.

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We had Night one last night over at the Raven

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and Worcester. Yeah, and we had a we had a

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great turnout. A lot of people came in, a lot

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of people donated. We got about five hundred dollars worth

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of donations. And we're basically we're trying to raise money

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for funds and awareness for rehab programs around New England. Okay,

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And today we're having No Masters Fest Night two over

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at the Cabinet of Curiosities over in Colchester, Connecticut. A

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lot of great talent, a lot of great bands. You know,

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Great Curtain will be playing. But we also have Scarecrow Hill,

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we have Fear of the Masses. We have Ape, we

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have the Big Sun. Anyone that hasn't heard any of

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these bands really needs to check them out and Mary

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Antoilette and the Runs, and yeah, we're we're hoping to

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we're hoping to get I'm I'm open to get to

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at least the South to uh get a you know,

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one of those cashiers checks and bring it over to

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Centerlink so they can just disperse it how they see fit.

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Speaker 1: So just to be clear, so are you the promoter?

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this on this big event?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, basically, you know, I so on on the fourteenth,

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on Thursday, I was five years sober an alcohol, and uh,

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I thank you. I wanted to do I want to

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do something, you know, bigger than me, bigger than just

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me doing a show and you know, doing the whole

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raw raw thing. So I'm I'm trying to help people

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that kind of swim in my seat, you know, people

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that suffer from depression and anxiety and alcohol abuse, and

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especially around this time of year, people really need to

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know that people are there for them. I've spent I've

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spent a couple of Thanksgivings alone hoping that you know,

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a phone would ring or you know, someone would care

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enough to like invite me, and instead I just you know,

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drank by myself, and I don't wish that on anybody.

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So I'm hoping that we can, like I said, we

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can raise awareness that there are these programs out there

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that people can utilize to help them through the holidays.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a very I mean, it almost sounds

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cliche to say it, but it really is true. The

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holidays can be a very lonely time for a lot

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of people. Whether it's a situation where perhaps they've lost people,

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they've lost family members, or you know, or they're isolated,

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perhaps they're living in an area where they don't know anybody,

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or you know, as you alluded to, they're just going

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through a lot. They've got issues that they're dealing with

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and and you know, it's kind of and obviously I'm

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not telling you anything you don't know, but it's it

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can be kind of a cycle, right because you know,

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if you have certain issues that might push people away,

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and then the more that pushes people away, the more

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isolate you end up. And then so those issues actually

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just get harder and harder. So so I think what

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you're doing, you know, with that awareness through your own

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personal experience, and I'm sure obviously what you've observed with

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others as well, that that this can be a very

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lonely time for people, and people do need to know

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that there's that there's help and that there's you know,

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and that they have options. And it's it's very very

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hard because you know, the way the brain works, we

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establish these patterns in our minds that then it's difficult

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to break out of them, and so it's hard for somebody,

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you know, people Sometimes people will look at people who

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have issues, whether it be alcoholism or a drug issue

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or or anything anything that's really affecting them and say, well,

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why don't they just stop or why don't they just

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get help? And it's hard to break out of those patterns,

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for or is it for a specific organization or how

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Speaker 2: Well, I have a list that I'm trying to raise

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money for. We have a like I said, I'm sorry,

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it wasn't Centerlink, it was Community Health Link, Okay, but yeah,

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between Saint Vincent Behavioral Health, we have Arbor Counseling Services,

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Sadiva Health of Worcester. Like like I have Recovery clean slate.

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for one of these programs. And it's not even that

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they're asking for money. It's not that they're asking for donations.

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but I do know that I feel I need to

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do something, yes, because whether these programs need the the

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awareness you know, uh, you know, for someone with a

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megaphone saying hey, these programs exist. Up until very recently,

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someone like me would have needed these programs because, uh,

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you know, so many people only think that there's AA

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and celebrate recovery alan on. Uh, you know, there are

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other venues. Not that those programs aren't successful, not that

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they don't work for people, but you know, for some,

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you know, they need different avenues. So I'm trying really

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hard to but mostly just to raise the awareness that

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Speaker 1: Exist right now. I think that's important because, as you say,

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not everything works for everyone. Everyone's different. And I do

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think it's important that people have options in terms of

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what kind of help, what kind of treatment, what kind

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of counseling they get, and so forth. And I think

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these organizations necessarily need financial help, but it's it's a

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pretty safe bet, you know, when when we're talking about

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mental health and addiction and all of that kind of thing,

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everything in that realm, there's never enough money. You know,

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these organizations always need more help so that they can

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expand their resources and help more people. So I think

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it's a I think it's a pretty safe bet that

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they'll be able to put the money that you're raising

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to good use. So I think that's I think that's

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fantastic what you're doing. And any any negative experience, you know,

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here that day. Anytime that you can take things that

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are next negative, things that are dark and create something

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positive from them, whether it's through music like like your

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band The Gray Curtain, or whether it's also through what

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you're doing putting on an event like No Master's Fest

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to raise money and awareness. You know, anything positive that

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you can pull out of these negative experiences, I think

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that's that's the best therapy. I think when you can

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take take dark things and make them positive or make

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something positive out of them in some way. So have

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you done this before? No Masters fest? Or is this

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Speaker 2: This is the first year. This is the first time

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I'm attempting anything like this. I've tried, like I've put

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shows before, but I've never done a benefit So I

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am a complete and total novice. But as I as

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do a good thing, you know, I want to think

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of others in this time that you know that really

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need to help. It's I mean, that's basically, in my opinion,

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year round, not just this time of year, but this

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time of year seems to be the time that we,

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you know, we all should be getting together and you know,

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helping people in need. You know, I work for meals

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on wheels and I'm constantly driving by churches that are

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looking for help, you know, with food kitchens and food pantries,

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things of that nature, clothing drives and whatnot. You know,

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you know, you can, you know you can do that.

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and help them realize, if only for like one extra day,

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that someone does care, someone does care enough to want

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them to get out of the ditch that they're in.

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we realized that enough. You know, I think, oh, you know,

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just show somebody that you care enough to do something

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like that, you know, is it goes along the way.

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a bench, you know, crashing on people's couches, you know,

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go into a soup kitchen, you know. And I know

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that these programs helped me through a lot, and I,

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at the risk of sound and redundant, I just want

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to help. I just want to help people that you know,

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have than me. I don't have a lot, don't get

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me wrong, you know, but I I know that there

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lot less than me, and I just want to help

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this an annual event? I know you're I know you're

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probably right at the moment. You're probably just trying to

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something like this is a lot of work. It's a

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lot of stress. Yeah, but but it sounds like it's

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something you'd you'd probably like to do every year.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you mentioned I would. I absolutely what.

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we could do this every year around this time? Yeah,

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you know, right around Thanksgiving. But you mentioned the stress.

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and the stress of this show. I'm like, looking at

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but but yeah, I'm yeah, I'm hoping that this this

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me aunt to talk about this. You know, I got

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and I was floating on a cloud. Man. Yeah, I

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was so happy with the turnout. I was so happy

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with the amount of donations. Between the people that were

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there who gave cash for donations, and and the people

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that walked in and say, hey, can I VENMO? You

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can I PayPal? You? I said, you know, I didn't

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even think of that. Absolutely, yes, you know. So, I'm man,

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what is the significance of the name No Master's Fest?

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back to, you know, alcohol was my master. Ye know

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could not spend a day, I could not spend an

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the I could probably hit up the bar at some

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in my head. Alcohol was my master, you know, and

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not don't get me wrong, this is not my saying.

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not the boss of me. But we all have those things.

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kind of like that is your master. That's the thing

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that is running your life and telling you what to do.

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anyone that comes to these shows has to realize that

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these devices are not your master. You are the You

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are in charge of your own life, and the best

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way to do that is to have someone there, you know,

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helping you realize that. Because sometimes, especially when it comes

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to addiction, especially when you have you know, some sort

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of mental illness, it's it's very difficult to be able

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to accept and it's very difficult to say I am

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in control of my life, right. This is not this

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does not run my life right, and that and that's

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where the No Masters Fest comes from.

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Speaker 1: I kind of suspected that that was the meaning behind it,

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but I didn't know, obviously, And it's cool that I'm

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glad that I was right, because I think that's a

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great concept. I think that's a fantastic name to call

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this event the no Masters Fest. And and I think

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the way that you said that, the way that you

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explained that was excellent, And yeah, exactly. You know, I'm

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a hypnotherapist, and when I see clients for various issues

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like you know, people who want to quit smoking and

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things like that, or other types of addition addiction rather

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be the physical addiction, or even you know, just psychological addiction.

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I try to impress on them is not only when

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we're doing the pre talk for the session, but during

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the actual session itself. I give them hypnotic suggestions that

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you are in control. Nothing else can control you. You

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are in control. And but it's you know, it's like

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I was saying earlier, sometimes it's hard for people to

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accept that because it's even positive change once those patterns

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are established, even positive change can be difficult for people.

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But I really like the way you explained that, and

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I think it's very empowering. And you know, there might

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be somebody out there listening who heard what you said

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and is now thinking about their own addiction or their

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own problems, whatever it may be, thinking about that in

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a new way and thinking about Oh, I like what

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Dennis said. You know this, this doesn't have to be

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my master. I'm in like you said, you're in charge

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of your own life. And I think even just saying

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that to people and telling people that I think might

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might help somebody, you know. So I think that's I

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think that's excellent. And uh so tonight, so tell us

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again for for people listening live, Uh where where again

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is the event tonight? If people want to.

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Speaker 2: Go the event tonight is that Cabinet of Curiosities. We

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had a bit of a snap who with the venue,

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so we moved it over to Cabinet of Curiosities. It's

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over in uh Colchester, Connecticut. Okay, you know a lot

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of great bands. Uh there's going to be a couple

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of vendors. Black Noise Magazine is going to be there. Uh,

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there's uh, there's going to be uh six bands total,

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and we're really hoping you know. Uh, admission is just

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a donation. Okay, you have a dollar. If you have

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a dollar, donate it. If you have ten dollars, if

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you can spare it, donate it. You know. Uh, this

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is not about you know, an admission fee.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: There's going to be a box over at the door.

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Just put whatever you can in the box and come

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in enjoy the show. Yeah. But yes, it's a Cabinet

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of Curiosities in Colchester, Connecticut.

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Speaker 1: What time does it start?

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Speaker 2: Uh? The first bench should be going on around uh

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around seven o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, i'mit of Curiosities. That's a that's a cool name

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for a venue. I like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Uh it's a it's a shop over in Colchester.

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You know. They they they specialize in uh you know

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little uh excuse me, I'm like I'm still half half

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asleep from last night. Uh. You know they uh you know,

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they basically just uh you know, they're like any other story.

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they were willing to hold this, uh this event in

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their kind of like the back rooms of the shop.

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and uh yeah, it's honestly, I cannot I cannot wait

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to to jam out with these bands, like I know. Uh,

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I know a lot of these bands from a long

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time that have you know, we just have a good

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rapport with each other. So it's gonna be a lot

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of fun regardless. And I'm really hoping that people will

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come and uh enjoy it because it's just gonna be

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a good atmosphere. I think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, are you are you documenting this

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at all? This this weekend? Is there? Are are you

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recording anything? Are you? Uh? Is there will there be

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a video available of some of these bands or just

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for people who maybe aren't able to make it but

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want to check it out after the fact, you know.

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Speaker 2: I it's one of those things I did not think of,

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was to get somebody to record the whole experience, you know,

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next year. But you know, but people did record. Uh.

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I believe there was some recording during Big Sun last night,

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the Big Son. I can't keep saying Big Son, the

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Big Son last night. Uh. I'm pretty sure people were

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recording during Paradise is canceled, you know, shade upon uh

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and trouble parachutes aluminium. They I'm fairly certain people who

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are recording during those during those sets, but you know,

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you you definitely just you know, sparked an idea, you know,

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like turned the light bulb on my head. I'm like,

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why I didn't I have somebody documenting all this. But

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it's just one of those things like I was, I

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was trying to get the show together. Yeah yeah, and

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try to get it to go off without a hitch. Yeah,

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I just, uh, you've got a lot on I did

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not think of.

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Speaker 1: You've got a lot on your plate already just doing

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just doing a two night event like this at at

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different venues and everything. You know, it's it's it's already

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a lot. So yeah, something to think about for next year.

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But but I think it's I think it's fantastic Dennis,

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what you're doing. And uh, I'm sure tonight will be

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I'm sure tonight will be very successful. And it sounds

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like last night went great, So that's that's wonderful. We'll

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let you go in a moment. But anything we should

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know about the Gray Curtain, by the way, anything anything

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new uh there or you know what we played I'm

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gonna actually, at the end of the segment, I'm gonna

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play clip the Stitch. I really love that. That's that's

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pretty pretty epic. But anything we should know about the

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Gray Curtain going forward since we had you on.

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Speaker 2: Well, uh you know this, uh this will be our

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line asked the show of the year, I gotta emphasize

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that of the year, and we're going to go into

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hibernation mode. We just locked in a new sense player

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and we're trying to lock in a drummer. We have

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a couple of really talented candidates that we have to

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narrow down to one. We have one in particular that

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we're hoping we'll stick around. But but yeah, we'll be

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going into hibernation mode and probably coming back like March April.

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My birthday is April second, so I'm kind of you know,

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I'm kind of hoping to do a show around then,

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but there may be an opportunity for one more show

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before before the end of the year. We're we're hoping

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to get one more in there, but if it doesn't happen,

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it's okay.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 2: You know, we've had we've had a pretty successful year

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between the New England Music Award nomination and uh, you know,

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the Battle of the Bands and uh, the Halloween Show

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over at Terminus. You know, we've you know, we we

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branched out and we went to Maine this year. We

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never did that before. We played Charlie's Hill over in eleven.

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And as far as what we're going to be doing

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in the future, you know, we're hoping that the uh

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you know, to write the next album within the next

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few months. You know, we have like seven eight songs

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already ready to go, and we're hoping to do a double.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, cool, very cool, outstanding. Look forward to that.

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Look forward to that. I'm a big fan, you know

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the project. It's it's unique, but it's also very accessible.

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That song Burned that Bridge, that's not one of the

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ones that we played when you were on the show before,

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but man, I love that. That's that is so catchy,

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you know, kind of singing along to it in the studio.

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But great, great stuff. So all right, Dennis, we'll let

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you go in a moment, one more quick plug for tonight,

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and then I know you've got another busy day ahead

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of you. But just remind our listeners for anyone just

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joining us about the about night two of No Masters

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Fest this evening.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, it's No Master's Fest over in Colchester, Connecticut.

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Over at the Cabinet of Curiosities. We've got the Grey

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Curtain of course playing. There's Scarecrow Hill, Fear the Masses,

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Mary Antwilllett and the runs Ape and the Big Sun

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are all going to be playing in this in the shop,

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hoping to raise awareness and funds for rehab programs around

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New England. It should it should be, should be a

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great time and we hope people will will man, just

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have a great time and donate.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I predict a very successful night. So it's fantastic

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what you're doing, Dennis, And thank you so much for

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calling us today and always wonderful to speak with you.

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And I'm sure we'll do it again in the not

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too distant future. But thank you, Dennis, and good luck tonight.

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I know it's going to be great.

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Speaker 2: Hey. Thanks, thank you guys so much for having me. Seriously,

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it's so great to be able to do this. Thank

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you for allowing me to do this.

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Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, you got it. Man. All right, Dennis, we'll

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talk to you soon. Take care, Bye bye, all right,

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bye bye