WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:06.679 You've created everything. Look put a powerful being you are. 2 00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:11.480 You did these things, but now you're in a human body. 3 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:13.080 You forget the power you have. 4 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:19.000 What you do is what the whole universe is doing 5 00:00:19.559 --> 00:00:23.440 at the place you call here, and now you are 6 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:26.839 something the whole universe is doing in the same way 7 00:00:26.879 --> 00:00:30.079 that a way is something that the whole ocean is doing. 8 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:41.960 You're doing doing what. Welcome to Metamistics where you don't 9 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:46.799 know what you don't know? My name's Jonathan, and today 10 00:00:46.880 --> 00:00:50.759 we have two very special guests. One all time returner, 11 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:53.640 Welcome back to the show, Electro Nicholas. 12 00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:55.119 What's going on? Family? 13 00:00:56.920 --> 00:00:58.520 Had to have you on for this one because this 14 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:00.439 one's going to get pretty out. 15 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:02.520 Of pocket, you know, you say, Orbs, I'm in. 16 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:06.640 And then we also have for the very first time, 17 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:11.799 justin from the lights over Loveland. TikTok is where we 18 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:15.920 found you. And it is absolutely mind blowing. I mean, 19 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:19.280 you're getting certain videos of ORBS up in the sky 20 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:23.239 that aren't behaving like anything else that is known to 21 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:28.920 the human electronic military world, you know, and it is 22 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:32.159 just absolutely mind blowing. And you know what do people 23 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:35.400 usually say whenever they don't believe that, like what do 24 00:01:35.439 --> 00:01:37.400 they say. Do they think that it's a lens flare 25 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:40.599 or is it ball lightning? We've heard it all over 26 00:01:40.640 --> 00:01:41.040 here too. 27 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:45.159 Yeah, the biggest thing I get is satellites. Like, Bro, 28 00:01:45.480 --> 00:01:50.400 you're just looking at satellites, but they're not there to 29 00:01:50.480 --> 00:01:54.439 like experience the whole situation. Which the crazy thing is 30 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:57.959 like these videos as crazy as the video is, just 31 00:01:58.000 --> 00:02:00.959 being in the moment and like the whole context of 32 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:05.640 the situation and everything really just adds to the whole experience. 33 00:02:05.719 --> 00:02:08.800 And that's what like cemented it in for me that 34 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:14.080 there weren't satellites, Like there's just no way that they 35 00:02:14.159 --> 00:02:18.319 happen way too often, and they seem to interact when 36 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:21.159 I ask questions and things like things like that, So 37 00:02:22.159 --> 00:02:25.360 I don't know. Yeah, it's the biggest thing I get though, 38 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:26.439 is satellites. 39 00:02:26.719 --> 00:02:29.840 Yeah, and I can totally understand that, you know, especially 40 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:31.759 people that kind of want to stay more grounded, they 41 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:34.719 want to think logically, you know. But there are times 42 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:36.719 where I have seen satellites and I can go look 43 00:02:36.759 --> 00:02:38.800 at that and go, Okay, yeah that's a satellite. Just 44 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:40.919 the way it's moving, it's very consistent as far as 45 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:42.599 the velocity and everything else. 46 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:43.400 And definitely. 47 00:02:43.520 --> 00:02:47.479 Then there's other things like not unlike the videos that 48 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:49.479 you've put up, but you know you get like little 49 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:53.039 little flashes or yeah, and it's not a flash like 50 00:02:54.080 --> 00:02:55.599 you know when you close your eyes and you can 51 00:02:55.680 --> 00:02:58.840 kind of see sparkles and different like geometries and different 52 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:01.759 things moving around. This is like physically there, like you 53 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:03.960 can actually see it there. It's spatial. You know, you 54 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:06.280 can tell you saw something and if it was a 55 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:08.960 satellite that would definitely wouldn't happen. And the and the 56 00:03:09.039 --> 00:03:11.840 videos that you've which I'm sure will we'll get into 57 00:03:11.879 --> 00:03:14.840 and maybe show some of that, but dude, some of 58 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:16.759 these things the way that they're coming in and out 59 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:19.439 and getting very bright and then getting dim and then 60 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:22.919 disappearing and coming back, and like satellites wouldn't do that. 61 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:27.039 There's no reason to be something that a satellite would do. 62 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:31.800 Yeah, and nothing too especially I get satellites too a 63 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:34.719 lot too. That's everyone saying that their satellites. I did 64 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:37.360 a lot of chat gbting and like kind of trying 65 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:40.280 to rule out a bunch of stuff and typically like 66 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:45.560 you can really only see a handful of satellites with 67 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:49.280 the naked eye, and they're really only visible kind of 68 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:51.560 at like twilight, so like right when the sun's going 69 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:54.439 down and right when the sun is coming up, right 70 00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:58.120 and while they're still above like the Earth, and they're 71 00:03:58.199 --> 00:04:01.400 they're catching rain from the sun because they don't have 72 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:03.000 they don't even have lights on them. The only way 73 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:05.080 you can see them is them reflecting light from the sun. 74 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:07.360 So if it's not really in the golden hour window 75 00:04:07.800 --> 00:04:10.479 for satellite viewing, and it's like twelve o'clock at night, 76 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:13.400 you know, five am or whatever, three in the three 77 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:16.240 and the three in the morning, like the satellites, my. 78 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:22.120 Dude, yeah, definitely, yeah, yeah. And like something I'll point 79 00:04:22.120 --> 00:04:25.480 out too, like I do take extra steps to try 80 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:28.079 to avoid the satellites, Like I use an app called 81 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:30.959 orby Track, which you can just like point up at 82 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:33.480 the sky and it'll show you you can point at 83 00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:36.399 it and it'll say if it's a satellite. I think 84 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:38.920 that was like five dollars on the app store. And 85 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:41.759 then there's a website called Heavens Above where you can 86 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:43.959 type in your location and it'll give you a list 87 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:48.000 of all the satellites and they're visible times. So in 88 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:51.040 my recent skywatches, I just go out after the last 89 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:54.240 satellites even visible, so that way I don't even have 90 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:55.000 to worry about it. 91 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:55.600 Yeah. 92 00:04:56.040 --> 00:04:58.399 Actually, when the last time Jonathan was here, we did 93 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:01.000 something similar to that as far as getting an app 94 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:02.720 and it was like, oh, the next satellite is like 95 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:06.000 an hour away, and we're seeing two or three different 96 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:08.879 things happening in this in that very moment, and so 97 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:11.000 it's like, yeah, that's proof enough for me that it's 98 00:05:11.079 --> 00:05:11.920 not a satellite. 99 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:14.920 Yeah, There's been times where I've seen like thirty things 100 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:19.079 in the sky at one time like that. I'm like, 101 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:21.759 that just blew my mind. I'm like, there's no way 102 00:05:21.800 --> 00:05:24.800 these are satellites. There's no way there's that many of 103 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:27.040 them flying by right now, Like it's just crazy. 104 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:27.480 You know. 105 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:31.319 What's interesting too, is that it seems like whatever is 106 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:34.439 going on now is happening way more now than it 107 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:38.519 ever has. Because I used to be outside all the 108 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:40.720 time as a little kid, like we were always looking 109 00:05:40.759 --> 00:05:43.319 up at the stars. I don't ever remember seeing anything 110 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:45.000 like this. I mean, if you were lucky, you might 111 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:47.800 catch a shooting star, you know, But I can't remember 112 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:51.439 one time I even remember seeing a satellite, let alone 113 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:55.480 an orb that is moving in crazy directions and speeding 114 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:58.240 up and slowing down in different shapes and colors and 115 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:00.920 sizes and all that stuff. You know, So why do 116 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:03.680 you think that that's happening more so now or do 117 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:05.519 you believe that it's happening more so now than it 118 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:07.000 ever has. 119 00:06:07.079 --> 00:06:11.759 I do think it's like happening more And my reasoning is, 120 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:14.519 I think there's more awareness being brought to it. So 121 00:06:14.759 --> 00:06:20.279 maybe just the collective consciousness of people going out and like, 122 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:23.480 like who knows, Like there's been times where it seems 123 00:06:23.480 --> 00:06:26.680 like I've manifested these things that show up, So who's 124 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:29.439 the same. People aren't going out having the intentions to 125 00:06:29.560 --> 00:06:34.480 connect and actually manifesting these orbs to appear, So just 126 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:38.040 more people getting out and doing this. I definitely think 127 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:42.160 like there is a noticeable increase, And like you were saying, 128 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:44.279 like growing up, I never saw anything in the sky 129 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:48.879 besides like an occasional shooting star. I actually I can 130 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:51.199 go in my background a little bit too, Like I 131 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:54.560 was strictly like materialism. I didn't believe in any of 132 00:06:54.600 --> 00:06:59.279 the spiritual, any of that stuff. And until August twenty 133 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:02.000 twenty three when I started seeing the orbs in the sky, 134 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:05.279 and that was like me going outside as a joke 135 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:08.000 because I was hearing about all the alien stuff on 136 00:07:08.040 --> 00:07:12.519 TikTok with the first congressional hearing. So I got home 137 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:14.839 and I just told my wife as a joke, like 138 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:17.000 I'm gonna go look for the aliens outside. 139 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:19.360 That's when it started for me too, actually. 140 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:23.360 And the crazy thing is a lot of people I've 141 00:07:23.399 --> 00:07:26.720 heard two years ago is about when it started for them. 142 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:31.079 So something happened like two years ago, definitely. 143 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:32.600 I mean, well, I mean there has been a lot 144 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:34.600 of things that have happened, you know. Yeah, you know 145 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:37.360 say that, you know, the COVID that went around, and 146 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:39.319 I mean everybody was in death on that, and I 147 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:42.680 think that that really had us looking inward. I mean 148 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:45.480 especially early on, you know, when it was very very 149 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:47.439 not to say that it wasn't serious, but I mean 150 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:50.360 people were dying. It was a it's a novel virus. 151 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:52.480 And so I feel like that was the time at 152 00:07:52.560 --> 00:07:55.439 least for me, that I really, for the first time 153 00:07:55.680 --> 00:08:00.160 seriously was contemplating my own more mortality. You know, I 154 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:02.920 would come home from work and you know, everybody was asleep. 155 00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:05.240 I'd get home late at night and I would sit 156 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:06.759 out back and I would this is when I still 157 00:08:06.800 --> 00:08:09.360 smoke cigarettes, and I would be smoking a cigarette and 158 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:11.240 I'm like, well, I mean, this could be the night 159 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:12.720 that I caught it, you know what I mean, And 160 00:08:12.759 --> 00:08:14.480 who knows that might not make it or something. And 161 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:17.040 so I really kind of went inward and really thought 162 00:08:17.079 --> 00:08:19.399 about that. And so I mean, who knows, a lot 163 00:08:19.439 --> 00:08:21.639 of people probably kind of went through that in their 164 00:08:21.720 --> 00:08:23.800 own way, and so maybe that was kind of the 165 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:26.240 crack and the veil, oh dude. 166 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:29.800 And and that amount of fear, especially like if you're 167 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:33.279 somebody that believed it wholeheartedly, like all that COVID shit, 168 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:36.600 like wholeheartedly at the very beginning. I mean, the amount 169 00:08:36.600 --> 00:08:40.000 of fear that you are creating inside your own mind 170 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:43.440 is crazy because you think about it, like, we didn't 171 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:45.240 really know a whole hell of a whole lot, like 172 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:47.279 a lot about it. You know, there's a lot of 173 00:08:47.320 --> 00:08:50.120 propaganda over in China with people falling over on the 174 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:52.559 street and all that kind of stuff, and then you know, 175 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:54.720 you look up on CNN and you see the death 176 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:57.039 the death toll counter and you're like, what is this 177 00:08:57.120 --> 00:08:59.720 doomsday shit going on here? And then you almost have 178 00:08:59.799 --> 00:09:02.000 to make it, you know, somewhat serious, you know, if 179 00:09:02.600 --> 00:09:04.879 or at least do a little bit of research into it. 180 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:08.120 And all of that, really I think dropped an absolute 181 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:12.200 nuke inside the minds of just about everybody because whether 182 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:15.279 you believed it, didn't believe it, whatever, I mean, it 183 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:18.320 affected you, affected you one way or another, you know, 184 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:20.840 whether it was because of your job or whatever. Right, 185 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:22.799 And so I think that it was kind of like 186 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:25.519 a necessary thing to be honest with you, all that 187 00:09:25.559 --> 00:09:28.960 COVID kind of stuff, you know, and yeah, and you 188 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:33.320 hear so many people like connecting with their guides and 189 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:36.799 connecting with you know, whatever they connect with on the 190 00:09:36.840 --> 00:09:38.960 other side that were just like, yeah, that was kind 191 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:41.000 of like a that was on purpose and that and 192 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:44.360 the purpose of it was to help wike people up 193 00:09:44.440 --> 00:09:46.879 and get them out of the hamster wheel of the 194 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:50.480 nine to five and you know, question there're own mortality 195 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:52.240 and where did you come from? Where are you going? 196 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:54.519 And all this kind of stuff. Right, So I think 197 00:09:54.519 --> 00:09:57.799 that it was a necessary evil, so to say. 198 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:01.679 Yeah, definitely, Like I agree. And I was one of 199 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:04.639 the people who like was actually really in fear in 200 00:10:04.679 --> 00:10:08.399 the beginning. My whole family we got really sick. Like 201 00:10:08.480 --> 00:10:11.720 the second like the lockdowns happened and everything, and we 202 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:15.399 ended up getting COVID right away and like listening to 203 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:18.039 the news and everything they're telling you and hearing the 204 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:19.200 death poll and everything. 205 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:19.639 Like. 206 00:10:20.759 --> 00:10:24.039 So, my son he's had like health problems growing up. 207 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:26.919 He was when he was born, at two days old, 208 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:29.120 we found out he had a heart murmur and he 209 00:10:29.159 --> 00:10:31.600 had to have open heart surgery. He was four months old. 210 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:35.919 But he did like amazing and he's ten years old now. 211 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:39.039 But just like knowing he has like those extra like 212 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:42.600 kind of problems that he's dealt with, you know, that 213 00:10:42.639 --> 00:10:46.840 elevated the fear in myself and it was like the 214 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:49.519 end of the world, Like it was crazy they shut 215 00:10:49.559 --> 00:10:54.080 down I remember I loved writing BMX and skateboarding, and 216 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:57.080 they poured sand in the skate parks. Like I couldn't 217 00:10:57.080 --> 00:10:59.759 even go to the skate park and be outdoors and 218 00:10:59.840 --> 00:11:02.519 like do my hobby to like relax and escape the 219 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:03.879 fear that they were creating. 220 00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:05.879 Is that in California? 221 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:07.120 This in Colorado? 222 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:12.200 Oh okay, Yeah, that's crazy that they went to those extents. 223 00:11:12.240 --> 00:11:14.159 I mean they were shutting down beaches and everything. 224 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:19.720 I was like, come on, yeah, But definitely like was 225 00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:22.399 the crack though, Like it opened my eyes up to 226 00:11:23.240 --> 00:11:26.879 they're willing to like do this to all of us, 227 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:29.279 then what what else are they willing to do? And 228 00:11:29.320 --> 00:11:32.000 that's when I started learning about all the different like 229 00:11:32.840 --> 00:11:35.919 CIA programs have had in the past, and all the 230 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:39.600 just crazy things that has happened throughout history that they 231 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:40.720 don't really teach you about. 232 00:11:40.919 --> 00:11:43.200 So yeah, they're nice backfire of all time. 233 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:47.360 Yeah, yeah, they're not gonna they're not gonna teach you 234 00:11:47.399 --> 00:11:50.639 about all the ways that they've manipulated society and and 235 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:53.360 all the different mk ultra kind of programs that they 236 00:11:53.399 --> 00:11:56.639 did on people and just wild things. Dude, all we 237 00:11:56.759 --> 00:11:59.440 are is just like hamsters in a cage. To like 238 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:02.720 the people at the absolute upper echelon of government and 239 00:12:02.799 --> 00:12:05.080 to be honest with you, like a lot of these 240 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:08.879 uh whistleblowers, It almost gives me a little pause because 241 00:12:08.919 --> 00:12:11.679 these are the same people that lied to everybody for 242 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:14.759 at least the last eighty years as far as any 243 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:19.440 kind of transparency with aliens and UFOs and crash wreckage 244 00:12:19.480 --> 00:12:22.360 and all this other stuff. Right, So I don't know, 245 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:24.919 I mean, what are your thoughts on, you know, certain 246 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:27.759 government whistleblowers? And I don't like to paint with a 247 00:12:27.799 --> 00:12:30.320 broad brush. I think that there are actually some very 248 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:32.559 genuine people. And if you hear like some some of 249 00:12:32.600 --> 00:12:36.639 the people's testimony, I mean, it doesn't sound like bullshit, 250 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:41.000 you know, like it sounds kinda sincere. I just wonder 251 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:41.399 to what. 252 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:47.879 Extent, Yeah, yeah, I definitely a lot of the whistleblowers, 253 00:12:49.159 --> 00:12:52.679 Like it's so hard to judge, like the Luo al Zondo, 254 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:57.879 whose job was to like do all these covert things 255 00:12:57.960 --> 00:13:01.120 and then you're expected to trust them, but I don't know, 256 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:03.960 just like his tone and the way that he speaks, 257 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:07.639 he's either like an amazing actor or like the information 258 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:11.320 he's giving is genuine. And I was in the Air 259 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:14.320 Force for six years, and when I hear service members, 260 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:18.200 especially like the nuclear service members, because I know how 261 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:21.799 intense the nukes program was, I was in munitions, so 262 00:13:22.039 --> 00:13:25.039 actually my tech school was like right across the hallway 263 00:13:25.080 --> 00:13:30.480 from the nukes tech school. And just these people are 264 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:35.600 the most credible, looked over people that we have in 265 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:39.279 our military. So I kind of just have to believe 266 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:41.519 what they're saying, and then just the way that they're 267 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:45.720 expressing and their emotions that they're having, and just the 268 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:49.159 way they're telling the story To me, it resonates as 269 00:13:49.240 --> 00:13:50.159 real experience. 270 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:54.279 Oh yeah, dude, there's definitely something to it, like, yeah, 271 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:56.919 you know, you had the recently, the age of Disclosure 272 00:13:56.960 --> 00:13:58.879 saying thing come out, and I did want to say 273 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:01.759 that as far as lewell, I've kind of just been 274 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:05.399 straddling that whole situation with him because you know, there's 275 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:07.440 a piece of me that wants to believe him, But 276 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:09.639 then there's that piece of me that, like, you know, 277 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:12.039 I've been doing podcasts forever five years now. I know 278 00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:14.679 an entertainer when I see one. You know what I'm saying, Like, 279 00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:18.240 I know someone who is trying to like, you know, 280 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:22.120 make something more than what it is or almost fib 281 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:24.000 and lye and stuff like that, and I get a 282 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:27.240 little bit of showman with him. Is like my reading 283 00:14:27.279 --> 00:14:30.399 on him, especially that he did one he said one 284 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:33.320 thing whenever he started looking real deep into it, like 285 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:37.600 all the UFO and stuff like that, aliens, and and 286 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:41.840 he told somebody he goes, well, you know, if you 287 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:44.159 ever look into a lot of this this UFO and 288 00:14:44.200 --> 00:14:46.799 this alien stuff, just make sure you pull out your Bible, 289 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:49.639 because I'm pretty sure I know what they are or 290 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:53.200 something along those lines, I was like, does everything got 291 00:14:53.320 --> 00:14:56.279 to be angels and demons? Like can we just can 292 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:57.200 we just move on? 293 00:14:57.399 --> 00:15:00.159 That's the hard thing for me too, Like I is 294 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:03.879 not religious at all, Like I considered myself atheist basically 295 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:07.720 until two years ago, and finding the orbs and seeing 296 00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:11.519 the things that I've seen now and have experienced has 297 00:15:11.600 --> 00:15:14.879 brought me to the connection to God. But I don't 298 00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:18.720 even like using the word God, like it's still so strange, 299 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:22.919 and praying feels so weird. So I think just the 300 00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:27.120 problem with the whole situation is there's a problem with labels. 301 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:31.039 And everyone has a belief that they've created for a 302 00:15:31.080 --> 00:15:33.120 certain words, so as soon as they hear that word, 303 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:36.440 they just go right into their belief and they're not 304 00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:39.559 going to change their beliefs just because some other person 305 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:43.440 is saying something. But what people don't realize is we're 306 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:47.159 all describing the same thing. We're just using the different terms. 307 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:49.559 Like an angel could be the same thing as an alien, 308 00:15:49.799 --> 00:15:54.440 it's the same thing as an interdimensional being. That's I 309 00:15:54.480 --> 00:16:00.240 think it's I think labels and just like the way 310 00:16:00.279 --> 00:16:04.559 we communicate is a really big problem, and like getting 311 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:06.679 the information out. 312 00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:07.879 Yeah, I mean, how else are you gonna how else 313 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:10.080 are you gonna talk about a light being? You know 314 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:13.600 what I'm saying. Yeah, because you say light being to 315 00:16:13.639 --> 00:16:15.639 some people, they're like, oh you're with that wu woo shit, 316 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:18.039 aren't you? Or you know, you say I'm talking to 317 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:21.000 my spirits? Oh God, here here we got another nut job. 318 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:23.600 But if you say you're talking to archangel Michael, or 319 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:26.840 you're talking to Jesus, it's like, what did he say? 320 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:29.559 You know? It's like one That is another comment that 321 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:31.279 I do get a lot of. There was one video 322 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:33.480 I posted where I was like calling out. I was 323 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:37.279 just like God, Holy Spirit, Spirit guides. And someone had 324 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:39.320 to comment in there and there was like I was 325 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:41.840 with you until you said spirit guides. But Jesus Christ 326 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:45.279 is the only one savior. And I'm just like, people 327 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:49.279 don't even understand what Jesus was like saying. He said, 328 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:52.039 don't worship me, he said be like me, and. 329 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:55.559 Yeah, and that's kind I'm sorry. I didn't mean to 330 00:16:55.559 --> 00:16:57.240 cut you off. That's kind of where I've been lately 331 00:16:57.320 --> 00:16:59.960 as far as like the whole savior thing. You know, 332 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:03.240 anytime there's something that you know, there's maybe you have 333 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:05.400 a time crunch, there's something you got to take care 334 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:07.440 of or else this, or you know, you got to 335 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:09.920 bill to pay. It's it's you know, no one's going 336 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:12.240 to come along and do that for you. You know, 337 00:17:12.359 --> 00:17:14.519 like the thing that or the person that takes care 338 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:16.200 of that is you. You got to get up, you 339 00:17:16.279 --> 00:17:18.640 got to be you know, motivate yourself to go and 340 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:21.599 do set thing, you know. And so the whole savior 341 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:23.880 thing is what kind of gets me as far as 342 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:27.160 looking outward for something that's going to come along and 343 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:29.240 and kind of just help you out, you know. And 344 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:32.759 I think that we are capable. We are very capable. 345 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:35.519 You know. We have our our our mind, we have 346 00:17:35.720 --> 00:17:39.759 you know, the ability to transmute and to uh use 347 00:17:39.799 --> 00:17:42.160 our imagination and create and do all of these things. 348 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:44.519 It's like, why are we always looking outward? 349 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:48.319 Right? Yeah, that's we should be looking within. And that's 350 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:51.559 the biggest thing I've learned and the last two years 351 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:56.279 and all this was really looking within and realizing like 352 00:17:56.839 --> 00:18:01.079 that we're all connected, We're all here on this planet together, 353 00:18:01.400 --> 00:18:04.440 and like that's the biggest thing that I really like 354 00:18:04.519 --> 00:18:07.039 my goal is just to bring everyone together and like 355 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:12.799 realize we could be such a powerful species if we 356 00:18:12.839 --> 00:18:15.279 all came together and worked towards like a common goal 357 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:19.200 of like bettering the planet for everyone instead of fighting 358 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:23.279 and dividing over imaginary lines that are drawn around the planet. 359 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:27.599 And that's one of the things that the phenomenon is. 360 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:30.079 It makes you, like going down and looking at the stars, 361 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:34.519 realize just how like small we are, but how big 362 00:18:34.559 --> 00:18:36.799 we think we are on this planet. 363 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:39.400 Right. And see, that's the thing too, is that you know, 364 00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:41.640 whatever it is that we're seeing in the sky, I mean, 365 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:44.839 how can we say for sure, you know, but I 366 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:48.240 feel like whatever that is is a part of us, 367 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:50.480 and we are a part of it, you know. Like 368 00:18:50.920 --> 00:18:54.759 people always will say this like, oh, you know, you 369 00:18:54.839 --> 00:18:56.680 have to go out into nature, you know, which is 370 00:18:56.759 --> 00:18:59.119 I agree, when you go out into nature it feels great, 371 00:18:59.119 --> 00:19:00.880 but you got to remember that you are part of 372 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:04.279 that too, you know. Like people always kind of make 373 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:08.240 that distinction, that separation of who we are and then 374 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:11.599 everything else is nature, you know, And I think that's 375 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:14.920 the kind of the miscommunication that that's been going around, 376 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:15.200 you know. 377 00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:19.119 So yeah, yeah, it just makes me think about like 378 00:19:19.119 --> 00:19:22.359 like as above, so below, as within, so without kind 379 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:26.119 of thing, right, And you know, there's this there's a 380 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:29.559 bunch of like older pictures or older depictions of and 381 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:33.039 paintings and stuff like that of Jesus where he has 382 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:36.279 one hand up and he's pointing upward right, almost like 383 00:19:36.319 --> 00:19:39.039 the Baphomet, but instead of pointing up and down with 384 00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:42.440 each hand like the as above, so beloved, as above, 385 00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:46.279 so below axiom, he's going one one hand up and 386 00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:48.960 the other one's pointing to his chest right. So it's 387 00:19:49.000 --> 00:19:52.799 like as above, so within, And you're instead of trying 388 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:56.400 to be a conduit from bringing heaven down to earth, 389 00:19:56.720 --> 00:19:59.160 you're trying to bring heaven down to your heart and 390 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:01.599 and like into your mind and into your body kind 391 00:20:01.599 --> 00:20:03.839 of thing going on there. And so I actually think 392 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:07.079 that that is a little bit better, Like I don't know, 393 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:09.279 it makes a little bit more sense to me, because 394 00:20:10.480 --> 00:20:13.599 all you are is just a perspective of the world. 395 00:20:13.960 --> 00:20:17.599 And if you have, you know, an open hearted loving, 396 00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:21.759 like unconditional love, like not this fake love bullshit that 397 00:20:21.799 --> 00:20:24.880 everybody's doing nowadays, right, but like that kind of love 398 00:20:24.960 --> 00:20:28.440 that just transcends and doesn't judge and does everything that 399 00:20:28.519 --> 00:20:30.759 Jesus was talking about, Like that makes a hell of 400 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:34.400 a lot more sense than just going around and judging 401 00:20:34.440 --> 00:20:36.480 everybody for not believing in what you believe in. 402 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:37.160 You know. 403 00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:41.799 So, yeah, weird stuff. So I did want to get 404 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:46.279 over to you. You got a video that really piqued 405 00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:49.519 my interest, and it was a video of what seemed 406 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:53.839 to be orbs with wings. Can you tell me a 407 00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:55.759 little bit about that and what do you think is 408 00:20:55.799 --> 00:20:57.000 actually going on there? 409 00:20:57.720 --> 00:21:01.480 Yeah, so that was just recently. Actually that was a 410 00:21:01.880 --> 00:21:04.119 November twenty fifth. I went out and I just got 411 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:07.839 a brand new camera like a month ago, so I've 412 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:10.200 been trying to figure out the new settings and how 413 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:12.480 to get the best footage I can. So I've been 414 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:15.960 going out trying to record, and unfortunately it's been really 415 00:21:16.039 --> 00:21:19.640 cloudy and just not good conditions. And that night was 416 00:21:19.680 --> 00:21:24.359 the first queer night I had, and luckily, like going 417 00:21:24.359 --> 00:21:26.599 out those other nights, I got my settings pretty dialed 418 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:31.799 in too. So I was out recording and I don't 419 00:21:31.839 --> 00:21:35.799 even know what prompted me to look up, but I 420 00:21:35.839 --> 00:21:38.599 had my camera pointed one way, and I just glanced 421 00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:42.880 up real quick, and I just saw two really bright orbs, 422 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:44.960 is what it looked like to me. I didn't see 423 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:48.839 the wings or any a thing like that, so I 424 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:50.880 knew it was flying too fast for me to like 425 00:21:50.920 --> 00:21:53.480 try to get too quick, So I positioned my camera 426 00:21:54.119 --> 00:21:57.440 where it was heading and then I think you even 427 00:21:57.480 --> 00:21:59.079 hear me say like it took me a second to 428 00:21:59.119 --> 00:22:01.200 find it in there because I'm still trying to figure 429 00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:04.279 out my new camera. But when I went in to 430 00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:06.920 edit the video and I zoomed in on it, that's 431 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:08.880 when I noticed that they had the wings on them. 432 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:13.200 And I don't know if you guys are into the 433 00:22:13.480 --> 00:22:17.519 what like Chris Bloodsoe's story and stuff like that, yea, yeah, yeah, 434 00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:21.160 So like I'm a part of the discord and I've 435 00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:26.519 been following them for a couple of years now, but 436 00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:29.559 out Riverfest a couple of years ago, I remember there 437 00:22:29.640 --> 00:22:33.759 was this experience where they saw what they called not birds, 438 00:22:34.599 --> 00:22:38.200 but it was like these luminous orbs that came in 439 00:22:38.359 --> 00:22:40.559 and they had wings and they were flapping, and then 440 00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:44.079 I think they described that they just vanished as they 441 00:22:44.119 --> 00:22:47.279 flew away. So when I zoomed in on my footage 442 00:22:47.319 --> 00:22:50.119 and I saw the wings, that instantly that's what I 443 00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:57.559 thought of. And then I started thinking like, okay, like 444 00:22:57.759 --> 00:23:01.000 how how many times has this been seen throughout history? 445 00:23:01.640 --> 00:23:03.799 So then I started doing some research and I threw 446 00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:08.240 it into like my AI to ask it, like you no, 447 00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:13.720 give me all the references to winged orbs throughout history, 448 00:23:13.839 --> 00:23:18.839 and it told me it's actually one of humanity's oldest 449 00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:22.960 symbols from ancient Egypt, and there's a winged orb on 450 00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:25.480 one of the stones that's carved there, so it's just 451 00:23:25.519 --> 00:23:30.039 really crazy. And then there's multiple other references to it 452 00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:35.000 throughout history as well. So I don't know. One of 453 00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:37.400 the things I've been looking into recently is just like 454 00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:43.000 looking into different ways to view the phenomenon. So recently 455 00:23:43.039 --> 00:23:46.799 I just did like a series on shamanism, which actually 456 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:50.880 kind of really resonated with everything that's going on, like 457 00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:54.640 realizing that they're describing the same things that we're still 458 00:23:54.759 --> 00:23:58.880 seeing today and realizing that this is just like something 459 00:23:58.920 --> 00:24:01.720 that is ancient and has been here the whole time. 460 00:24:01.799 --> 00:24:05.519 We just we're completely unaware and didn't even know to 461 00:24:05.559 --> 00:24:06.240 look for it. 462 00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:10.920 Dude, Yeah, there's absolutely something going on with that. Like 463 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:13.599 that is so nuts, I mean. 464 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:16.599 Crazy, by the way, Like if you guys aren't on 465 00:24:16.680 --> 00:24:20.119 Patreon and you can't see this, that that is that's 466 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:24.680 clearly wings flapping. Yeah, yeah, And I. 467 00:24:24.640 --> 00:24:27.240 Couldn't even see the wing like this is like fifteen 468 00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:30.160 times zoomed in. So when I saw it, it was 469 00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:33.599 just two like bright orbs flying through the sky like 470 00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:37.960 they looked, but it didn't look anything like birds. And 471 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:41.039 I actually recorded a whole bunch of birds like the 472 00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:44.119 couple nights before that. So in one of my newer 473 00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:46.599 videos I'm gonna be making, I'm gonna be like comparing 474 00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:49.599 the footage and trying to like show people and also 475 00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:52.799 I'm gonna be breaking down like the history of the 476 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:56.559 winged orb and like try to just give people knowledge 477 00:24:56.599 --> 00:24:59.400 on how it's been around. 478 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:03.240 Awfully bright for a bird at night, right, Yeah. 479 00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:07.720 Yeah, but the camera at least in this in this 480 00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:11.319 footage here, was that like some sort of night vision. 481 00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:16.640 Oh, this is the Sony Alpha A seven S two 482 00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:21.119 and I was using the Tamron twenty eight to seventy 483 00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:24.359 five milimeter F two point eight lens, So it's just 484 00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:28.359 normal lens. It wasn't ir it wasn't anything like that. 485 00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:31.559 In red or anything. They're yeah, they're not worth picking 486 00:25:31.640 --> 00:25:35.839 up on anything. Oh wow, Yeah that is wild. That 487 00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:38.279 is absolutely not seen that before. 488 00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:38.680 Yeah. 489 00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:40.000 I mean, either that's pretty sick. 490 00:25:40.759 --> 00:25:42.920 And then it's hard because I'm like editing the footage 491 00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:46.160 and I'm like is this birds or like what is this? 492 00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:48.039 And then that like if I go to post it, 493 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:50.079 of course, like the first comment I got was like 494 00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:50.799 those are birds. 495 00:25:50.839 --> 00:25:52.880 I'm like, well, birds aren't real. 496 00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:53.160 I don't. 497 00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:57.799 Some people are extra weird for that one. 498 00:25:57.880 --> 00:26:01.359 Yeah, yeah, no, but it is. It is so shocking 499 00:26:01.400 --> 00:26:04.039 to see something like that because those things are up 500 00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:08.880 there and and it almost it almost looks like, you know, 501 00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:10.480 at first, I was like, oh, it kind of looks 502 00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:13.079 like bats almost or something like that, but bats ain't 503 00:26:13.079 --> 00:26:16.039 flying that damn high, like that's up with the airplanes. 504 00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:18.920 It looks like, you know, yeah, and that's it was. 505 00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:21.759 It was up like at airplane height, and it was 506 00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:24.720 moving so fast, like I don't know how long. My 507 00:26:24.839 --> 00:26:27.759 video is only like maybe fifteen seconds, and it was 508 00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:30.920 across the whole sky, like I know, some birds are 509 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:35.240 pretty quick, but they were booking it right. Whatever that was. 510 00:26:35.359 --> 00:26:38.119 There was one time I captured a video and it 511 00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:40.920 was really close to the time that there was a 512 00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:44.079 rocket launched, you know, And so that's the one thing 513 00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:46.519 that kind of got me like already kind of questioning 514 00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:48.440 it and kind of doubting it. But the footage that 515 00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:52.000 I captured, it was like an orb of white light 516 00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:54.559 and it was close, like I know that that footage there, 517 00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:55.960 it looked like they were kind of far away, but 518 00:26:56.000 --> 00:27:00.400 you could see that it was like very defined wings. 519 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:02.319 The thing that I saw was like a ball of 520 00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:05.279 light and there was like light shooting off the sides 521 00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:08.640 of it, and then the light almost started to like 522 00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:12.759 I don't know, it was like very wispy, almost like intentional. 523 00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:15.480 And the only way I could describe it was it 524 00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:18.680 kind of looked like wings, you know. And so yeah, yeah, 525 00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:20.599 that's the only other time I've seen anything like that. 526 00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:22.480 But that was like very clear. 527 00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:27.400 Have y'all seen the rubber duck UFO? No, So there's 528 00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:31.240 a there's some military footage that's like it's legit confirmed, 529 00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:35.720 real footage, and it's it books just like a rubber 530 00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:38.319 duck flying through the air and they're tracking it like 531 00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:41.559 with a drone and it's a straight up UFO, but 532 00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:43.279 but it's in the shape of a rubber duck and 533 00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:45.440 it's like it's large, and it's moving real fast and 534 00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:47.519 it's spinning like this and it's going through the air 535 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:51.799 and like I think there's a from what I understand 536 00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:54.680 is like there's a playful element to mimicry that they 537 00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:58.720 do for fun. And I think that this you know, 538 00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:02.839 flapping bird or the rubber duck type thing, the jellyfish. 539 00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:07.640 I mean, they do stuff for fun sometimes too, I think, hmm, yeah. 540 00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:08.359 Definitely, man. 541 00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:10.559 But I think that's the way we're supposed to be 542 00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:13.519 kind of living life, Like, yeah, take things seriously. There's 543 00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:15.440 things that we need to take care of, there's things 544 00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:17.519 that we need to kind of put a little more 545 00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:21.640 attention into. And but I think we're supposed to be 546 00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:24.240 having more fun than what we are. You know, we're 547 00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:26.039 supposed to be funnier. Things are supposed to be a 548 00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:29.359 little more comical, you know, but we take ourselves so 549 00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:32.920 so seriously. And that's just the ego anyways, you know, 550 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:34.799 kind of with that that one guy you guys were 551 00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:36.680 talking about earlier as far as like maybe he's a 552 00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:40.160 little bit showsman, But I think what happened maybe like 553 00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:43.359 if he is completely authentic and is telling the truth, 554 00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:46.440 you know, I think maybe all the attention he was getting, 555 00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:48.839 maybe his ego kind of started to get puffed up 556 00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:50.839 a little bit, and maybe then he was kind of 557 00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:53.480 putting it on a little bit more just to you know, 558 00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:56.640 because he was enjoying the attention. You know, who knows 559 00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:00.680 as human experiences is so complex, you know. 560 00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:03.559 Yeah, So I found the rubber duck ufo that you 561 00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:04.160 were talking about. 562 00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:04.440 Nick. 563 00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:06.319 I don't think I've ever seen this one, or if 564 00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:09.119 I did, I probably just like, oh, somebody's getting good 565 00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:11.559 at editing or whatever. But yeah, it turns out it's 566 00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:13.599 I mean, they put it up on the History Channel, 567 00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:17.039 so I mean it wasn't just a internet fluff I guess. 568 00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:21.039 But check this out, dude. Look at that fucking thing. 569 00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:26.039 Dude just floating along just like a little over talk one. 570 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:29.319 Yeah, that does that straight up looks like a rubber duck. 571 00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:34.240 Oh my god, that is unreal. What do you do 572 00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:36.160 with that? When you see something like that? 573 00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:39.920 You know, like, well, who captured the video? 574 00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:44.039 Actually that was a military video, Yeah, really like with 575 00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:46.000 like legit camera badass, you. 576 00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:49.799 Know, like yeah, but yeah, no, they have a they 577 00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:50.599 have a little bit of fun. 578 00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:54.079 So yeah, it's like the same thing with the with 579 00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:57.440 the whole jellyfish. That was another military video with the 580 00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:00.839 whole the jellyfish or looking thing that was floating around 581 00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:03.720 at crazy speeds going up and down and around and around, 582 00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:06.920 and it was just I don't know. I mean, they 583 00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:10.960 say non human intelligence, but you know what, what could 584 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:13.720 that be? I just get so baffled about this kind 585 00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:15.160 of stuff. I believe it though. 586 00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:18.599 I think it's just consciousness, dude, you know what I mean, 587 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:21.039 It's just it's it's just us, dude. 588 00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:24.759 I've actually often thought that, is it possible that people 589 00:30:24.920 --> 00:30:31.119 are getting really good at like astro projecting and you know, 590 00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:34.960 just like projecting their consciousness in such a way that 591 00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:39.079 they can appear as some form of conscious light form. 592 00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:41.640 There's somebody out there right now, like, yeah, I went 593 00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:43.920 out of body. It was crazy. I was flying right 594 00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:46.799 and I was flying pretty fast. Forget this, dude, I 595 00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:50.240 was a rubber duck. Nobody believes them, but like the 596 00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:54.240 military cop footage of them, you know, he's like bilocating 597 00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:56.960 for sure. 598 00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:00.000 I mean, if you could, you know, change it up. 599 00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:02.279 I mean I might just try and go out there 600 00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.319 as a dinosaur or something like that, looking like the 601 00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:07.920 t Rex from Toy Story or some shit. That would 602 00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:10.599 just be you know, just to mess with people. But yeah, 603 00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:13.839 it does make you wonder, like, are we justin do 604 00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:18.640 you think that we're seeing some kind of dimensional overlay 605 00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.400 that these things are naturally naturally happening in another dimension. 606 00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:25.400 I've heard this brought up several times before, that what 607 00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:28.400 we're seeing right now is maybe the veil is thinning 608 00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:31.200 a little bit, or maybe we're just having maybe we 609 00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:34.880 have the faculties to be able to see them a 610 00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:38.559 little bit more because our vibration is rising or the 611 00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:42.240 frequency of the planet is rising. And then and then 612 00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:45.799 that's that's what's allowing us to be able to kind 613 00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:47.519 of perceive these things. What do you think is going 614 00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:48.039 on with that? 615 00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:51.559 I mean, that is like one of the theories that 616 00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:53.799 I do have, and I do think that is like 617 00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:57.480 a pretty likely like theory, like the way I try 618 00:31:57.519 --> 00:31:59.319 to believe in things. This is like a scale of 619 00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:03.799 like me like most likely to least likely. And yeah, 620 00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:08.119 the like the dimension thing is fascinating to me. It's 621 00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:12.480 also like fascinating that mainstream media has kind of been 622 00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.960 like prepping us for like learning about different dimensions and 623 00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:18.400 the multi verse and like all those kind of things. 624 00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:23.000 And then now we're seeing like these interdimensional beings showing 625 00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:27.920 up and and then you hear like some of the 626 00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:31.720 people like Rep. Luna, I think she even called them 627 00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:38.759 interdimensional beings at one point in her podcast with Joe Rogan. So, 628 00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:42.720 I mean, I think it's definitely, like, like it could 629 00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:47.759 be very possible. It's hard to judge. Another theory I 630 00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:50.960 had when you were talking about like the people's consciousness 631 00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:54.119 being projected out. Maybe it's not even people who are 632 00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:57.759 like have got it dialed in. Maybe it's just people's 633 00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:01.319 consciousness just like getting projected at and they don't even 634 00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:05.920 realize that, like they're in different locations at the same time. 635 00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:08.960 Like I don't know if you guys have listened to 636 00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:13.400 like the telepathy tapes, but the just hearing the kids 637 00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:15.960 talk on there about how we're so much more than 638 00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:19.440 our physical body and we're existing on so many different 639 00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:23.480 levels that we're not even aware of. So who knows, 640 00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:26.119 Like that could be like another piece of us that's 641 00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:28.200 out there that we're just seeing and like what the 642 00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:31.160 heck is that thing? But it's yeah, it's definitely or 643 00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:34.960 it could be like our higher self even like sending 644 00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:38.799 us signs like I don't I go outside and pray 645 00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:41.880 a lot, and I'll ask for like guidance and stuff 646 00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:44.359 like that, and that's usually when I can like get 647 00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:47.279 these flashes and things, and it's like, is that just 648 00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:50.160 my higher self guide in me? And like, yes, you're 649 00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:52.599 on the right path, Like here's a flash or like 650 00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:56.000 something like that too, Like I don't know. It's one 651 00:33:56.079 --> 00:33:59.039 of the funnest things to think about though, Like I 652 00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:03.160 love thinking about it absolutely, absolutely. 653 00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:05.480 Yeah, you got to have like a really like it 654 00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:10.000 almost forces you to open your mind and expand your 655 00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:15.719 imagination because it's so baffling. It's nothing like anything that 656 00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:18.519 we've ever come in contact with. And the only thing 657 00:34:18.599 --> 00:34:22.960 that it is even reminiscent of is things that you 658 00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:26.360 see in your dreams, things that you see whenever you're daydreaming, 659 00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:29.039 things that you see when you're in meditation, things that 660 00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:31.639 you see when you're on psychedelics. That's the only thing 661 00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:34.639 that it even comes close to being like. And so 662 00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:37.079 of course people are going to try and and hone 663 00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:39.880 in on those kind of things and really get crazy 664 00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:43.480 deep into meditation and you know, like all the different 665 00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:48.360 kinds of meditations and everything transcendental whatever, right guided meditations. 666 00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:50.280 You want to talk to your spirit guides whatever like 667 00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:53.199 people are and that's what we're trying to do as well, 668 00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:55.840 Like that's why we meditate at the end of every episode, 669 00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:59.079 because first of all, it's it's really good for you, 670 00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:02.239 like meditation in general is one of the best things 671 00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:05.840 that you can do for yourself. But also it kind 672 00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.559 of takes away that fear, especially if you're going in 673 00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:11.239 there and dealing with shadow work or whatever you got 674 00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:13.920 going on, because the subconscious is one hell of a 675 00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:17.000 crazy deep hole that most of us have a lot 676 00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:19.880 of things that we just submerge and try and forget about, 677 00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:22.480 you know, and that's not really good for anybody. So 678 00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.320 it's good to really shine a little bit of light 679 00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:27.239 on that. And maybe then I don't know. You listen 680 00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:29.440 to most psychics, they say that's how you become psychic, 681 00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:31.599 because by shining a light on all of the things 682 00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:33.960 that you've been trying to submerge underneath the deep waters 683 00:35:33.960 --> 00:35:37.639 of your subconscious. So I don't know. But then of 684 00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.559 course you have the psychedelics and people see crazy fractal 685 00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:45.840 you know, and fractalize things, crazy geometry, and maybe you're 686 00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:49.119 meeting certain beings or you're seeing a much larger version 687 00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:51.599 of yourself and you're understanding the oneness that you have 688 00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:54.400 with the universe, and all of it does sound crazy 689 00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:56.800 it does sound a little bit philosophical and woo woo 690 00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:58.800 and all this kind of stuff, but to be honest 691 00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:00.679 with you, you kind of have to go there because none 692 00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:03.519 of us have a goddamn clue why why we exist 693 00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:04.320 in the first place. 694 00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:07.719 Yeah, you know, the crazy thing is like as crazy 695 00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:10.760 as it sounds to the person who hasn't experienced it, 696 00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:14.000 once you do experience in it, it's like the most 697 00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:17.559 reasonable like conclusion, like yeah, we're all one, we're all connected, 698 00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:22.639 like we survive beyond death. Consciousness exists like outside the body. 699 00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:25.840 But when you're stuck in those beliefs outside of it, 700 00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:28.480 you're like, those people are so freaking crazy. They believe 701 00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:32.719 all this crazy stuff and like, yeah, I don't know, 702 00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:36.679 it's just so funny. But they're also it's so like 703 00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:42.360 contradictory because they'll be religious where they believe in God 704 00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:48.280 like supernatural figure that dictates over everything. But it's so 705 00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:51.159 crazy that we're seeing like lights in the sky that's 706 00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:55.559 also been described throughout like the Bible with encounters of 707 00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:58.159 flaming balls coming down from the sky. 708 00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:04.559 And yeah, well yeah, it's yeah, hens like this would 709 00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:06.960 only see demons obvious. 710 00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:10.000 Right, And that's the other thing, Like I do get 711 00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:14.159 that comment sometimes too, like you're messing with demons. Well, 712 00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:16.159 I don't know why demons are showing up when I'm 713 00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:18.800 praying to God and sending out love and light into 714 00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:19.400 the universe. 715 00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:23.480 Well, it's because you didn't give your life to Jesus, 716 00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:27.199 do you know. It's so silly. I mean, it's such 717 00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:30.519 a limited understanding of how all this whole thing works. 718 00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:32.880 And and I gotta be honest with you, there's a 719 00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:37.119 one percent chance of me that's like maybe I'm the 720 00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:39.400 dumb one and they got it right, you know, just 721 00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:42.760 I try and keep myself balanced here from time to time. 722 00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:44.719 But then I even start thinking about that, and I'm like, 723 00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:48.199 there's no way, dude, There's got to be something so 724 00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:51.199 much more to it, especially whenever you start going super 725 00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:57.159 crazy deep into you know, uh, the Nagamadi with a 726 00:37:57.159 --> 00:37:59.360 lot of the the ancient texts that were kind of 727 00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:01.199 left out of the Bible, and who was putting the 728 00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:04.039 Bible together back in the year, you know, in the 729 00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:07.199 in the fourth century, and all the different emperors and 730 00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:10.199 stuff like that, and why did they include Paul. Paul 731 00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:12.880 never even met Jesus. Yet most of what we understand 732 00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:16.679 about Christianity is from Paul. Who is this Paul character, 733 00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:19.039 So we're just supposed to trust him because he was 734 00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:22.199 at one point against the Christians and killing Christians, but 735 00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:24.679 then he had a change of heart because he met 736 00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:28.239 him in a fucking vision, which sounds very similar to 737 00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:32.239 what Emperor Constantine saw in another vision, which led him 738 00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:34.880 to bring Christianity over to Rome in the first place. 739 00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:37.159 I just don't buy none of the story. It all 740 00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:39.000 seems a little bit fishing to me, and we have 741 00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:42.199 to rely on one person's vision, whereas nowadays, if somebody 742 00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:45.559 has a vision, it is probably the most easily dismissed 743 00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:47.119 thing that you could ever imagine. 744 00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:55.440 But two thousand years ago, yeah. 745 00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:56.199 Yeah, sorry, I went on at the. 746 00:38:56.320 --> 00:39:03.679 Definitely like even like my shamanism videos I made, like 747 00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:06.159 I'm taking an archaeology class right now, so I was 748 00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:09.079 learning about the ancient shamans, and I was like, dang, 749 00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:11.639 I didn't realize like just how respected they were in 750 00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:15.000 the community and it was perfectly normal for them to 751 00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:18.000 go to the spirit world and get information to bring 752 00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:21.760 back to the community to help them all like level 753 00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:25.079 up basically. But you say that today and no, you're 754 00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:29.719 crazy like it just oh, we're just like so disconnected. 755 00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:34.519 It's it's so like once you wake up to it too, 756 00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:38.000 it's just realizing that people are just so stuck in 757 00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:43.719 those beliefs. And then like I listened to an audiobook, 758 00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:47.000 it was mind haacking happiness and like actually like learning 759 00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:50.840 about people's beliefs and why people don't want to change 760 00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:54.280 their beliefs. And it's when you present something that's physically 761 00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:57.639 challenging to them, it causes them physical pain. 762 00:39:57.880 --> 00:39:58.920 Yeah, so like. 763 00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:03.960 I understand like the not wanting to be open, but 764 00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:05.960 at the same time, like you just got to think 765 00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:09.199 of the possibilities and like what what's the harm in 766 00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:13.639 thinking of maybe like what if you know? 767 00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:18.000 And it's so crazy too, about just how insanely out 768 00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:22.480 of context we look at, you know, certain spiritual and 769 00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:28.559 religious things. You know, for example, Jesus I believe did 770 00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:31.760 Jesus call himself a rabbi or were some of his 771 00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:36.079 followers calling him a rabbi? Either way, all a rabbi 772 00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:38.320 is is just a teacher, Like that's all it was 773 00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:42.159 made to be. And actually the term wasn't even formalized 774 00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.400 within any religion until right around his life or maybe 775 00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:47.599 even a little bit thereafter. Some people debate on even 776 00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:49.920 the term rabbi or whatever. It doesn't matter. He was 777 00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:52.280 just a teacher, right, and that's how he wanted to 778 00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:54.599 be taught. Now, imagine, and I always like to try 779 00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:58.599 and put this in in a sense that like, what 780 00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:01.039 if it would happen to you, how would you take it? 781 00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:01.599 Right? 782 00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:04.960 So, for example, if you got this uh, this teacher, 783 00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:07.400 and he's going around and he's saying, look, all you 784 00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:10.880 gotta do is do all these things that I'm telling you, Like, 785 00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:14.639 forget about the crazy rules and the old covenants and 786 00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:16.880 and all this crazy crap. You don't need to sacrifice 787 00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:19.920 in anything anymore. Just you know, the Kingdom of Heaven 788 00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:22.599 is within you. If therefore, your your, your, your I 789 00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:24.880 be single, then your whole body should be full of light, 790 00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:27.679 all the fun sayings. Right Like you just took all 791 00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:32.320 of that and and you applied it to your life, 792 00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:34.880 Then would it would it? Wouldn't it be so much 793 00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:37.440 different if you looked at it that way as opposed 794 00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:41.440 to now, let's say, justin let's just say, for for 795 00:41:41.480 --> 00:41:45.199 shits and giggles, that I am your spiritual teacher and 796 00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:49.440 I am your rabbi for example, right, and I was 797 00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:53.239 to say, all right, you know, the only way that 798 00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:56.719 you can get into heaven is if you believe me 799 00:41:56.719 --> 00:42:00.159 me as in the physical meat suit, I am the 800 00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:02.320 Son of God, I am your Lord and Savior, and 801 00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:05.719 you're not going anywhere without me. And I don't even 802 00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:07.639 mean to turn this into a religious thing. I'm not 803 00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:09.639 trying to go there, really, but I'm just trying to 804 00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:12.039 bring a little context to what was really you know, 805 00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:14.599 trying to bring my own context to what was probably 806 00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:18.079 going on back then. It wouldn't make any sense. You'd 807 00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:22.039 be like, believe in you? What what are you talking about? 808 00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:23.639 Like I believe some of the shit that you'll say, 809 00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:26.199 you know, like we can take it to that point. 810 00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:29.800 But yeah, it's it's weird because especially back then, there 811 00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:31.480 was not really a whole lot of people that even 812 00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:34.599 knew how to read and you know, so you had 813 00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:36.480 stuff like that. But you know what I'm really happy 814 00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:39.920 about is that what we have nowadays is we have 815 00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:43.000 social media, we have the Internet, We have more ways 816 00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:45.440 to get in contact with many of different people all 817 00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:48.079 over the world from all different realms of thought and 818 00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:50.880 all different spiritual understandings and all this kind of stuff. 819 00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:53.119 And you can, and you don't have to necessarily be 820 00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:56.800 formalized and initiated in some form of secret society or 821 00:42:56.800 --> 00:42:59.079 anything like that. You don't have to take a seven 822 00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:02.360 year vow of islence in order just to receive one 823 00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:05.239 little nugget of spiritual truth anymore. You can kind of 824 00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:07.400 just search it up and try to apply it to 825 00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:11.159 your life. It's pretty fun and and so it's it's 826 00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:13.920 a much easier thing to do now, I think, because 827 00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:17.440 you can almost initiate yourself into this understanding. You know, 828 00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:25.440 look into the ancient Hermetic teachings and Neoplatonic teachings and 829 00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:28.760 and whatever. All of all of them have been trying 830 00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:32.599 to kind of describe the same sort of thing for 831 00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:36.320 a very long time, the Egyptian stuff. I mean, I 832 00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:39.119 feel like what we're seeing nowadays is nothing new. Whenever 833 00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:40.960 we look up in the sky and we see something 834 00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:45.480 that is absolutely unexplainable, you know, definitely, Like I just 835 00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:48.280 I try and keep a very open mind with all 836 00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:50.760 that kind of stuff. But you know, actually the very 837 00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:53.559 first person that got us on this stuff was Electro Nick. 838 00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:55.920 He's the one that came and well, he came to 839 00:43:55.960 --> 00:43:58.000 Baton Rouge and showed me looked up in the sky 840 00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:01.239 and oh my god, there's something up in the sky 841 00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:03.519 that doesn't make any damn sense. Then he goes he 842 00:44:03.880 --> 00:44:06.320 just happens to have some kind of contract to go 843 00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:09.320 to go work in Phoenix and goes to visit Seawan. 844 00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:11.800 They look up in the sky, Oh my god, that 845 00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:15.000 that ain't a plane, you know. So it's so crazy 846 00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:18.039 about how even this conversation is going down right now, 847 00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:21.440 because if it wasn't for Nick, we probably wouldn't have 848 00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:23.199 even been interested in what you have to say. 849 00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:25.800 But here we are. No, no, I mean I was 850 00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:28.519 looking in this guy for a very long time. For years, 851 00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:30.199 you know. My wife would make fun of me because 852 00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:32.079 it was just like, like you said, it's like the 853 00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:35.599 funnest thing to think about, like the possibility and which 854 00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:38.519 you know, with the the size of the universe, why 855 00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:43.599 wouldn't there be a possibility of life outside of where 856 00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:45.880 we are, you know? And so I've always looked up 857 00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:48.840 and would I would have loved to see a UFO, 858 00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:52.159 you know. And only after Nick came and showed me. 859 00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:54.360 As soon as he's pulled up five minutes later, there's 860 00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:56.599 a light that I've never seen before, and I've been 861 00:44:56.719 --> 00:45:00.519 looking and so like, how how is that? You know? 862 00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:04.639 Is it just because Nick already has that established? And 863 00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:08.400 so by him telling us and then showing us because 864 00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:12.679 it's already happening for him, now it's within my reality bubble. 865 00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:14.679 And that's kind of how I've been looking at that, 866 00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:19.320 you know, just the the possibility is now okay, well 867 00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:22.719 obviously it's already happened. I've already seen it now, you know, 868 00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:25.639 So now it's almost like you can't unsee it. 869 00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:29.719 Yeah. That's actually one of my favorite clips I recorded 870 00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:32.679 at the very first event we ever had was this 871 00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:37.199 year in August, and some guy who just showed up. 872 00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:39.400 He thought it was just like to look at the 873 00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:41.559 stars through telescopes and stuff. He had no idea what 874 00:45:41.639 --> 00:45:44.239 we were even trying to do, but he showed up 875 00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:46.760 and we're just telling him about UFOs and all this stuff. 876 00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:51.079 And the people who own the ranch where we did 877 00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:53.800 the event, they have two pairs of military grade night 878 00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:56.920 vision binoculars. So that was the first time I ever 879 00:45:56.960 --> 00:45:59.320 got to look through those. And once you look through them, 880 00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:02.480 you can see like every star, you can see everything 881 00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:06.480 so clear if there's anything moving, And this guy was 882 00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:09.599 looking through these binoculars and it just blew his mind. 883 00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:11.960 He just like comes over me. He's just like, dude, 884 00:46:11.960 --> 00:46:14.559 I just saw this thing like going through the sky 885 00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:18.239 but was like doing this weird motion. I was like, oh, yeah, swimming, 886 00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:21.519 He's like swimming. And then I told him, I was like, 887 00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:24.920 once you see it, you are forever changed. And the 888 00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:27.039 orb I was tracking right when I said that, it 889 00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:30.360 did like a big pulse and then like went out. 890 00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:34.360 So it was like confirmation that like, once you experienced this, 891 00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:38.440 you are forever changed, like you're open to the channel 892 00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:40.119 of being able to experience it. 893 00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:43.559 Wow. And you said swimming, you mean like it's kind 894 00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:44.679 of like, yeah. 895 00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:47.039 It's kind of like going like this kind of movement. 896 00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:48.880 Yeah, yeah, I've seen that. 897 00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:51.800 That is so strange that something could even appear to 898 00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:56.960 be swimming above you know what I mean. Like yeah, 899 00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:00.960 I mean they've said it before, you know, but it's 900 00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:03.440 that is so crazy. And you know, as far as 901 00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:05.719 the night vision goggles, I actually hear a lot of 902 00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:08.719 people that are buying Like what was it. We had 903 00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:11.079 the guy on from Symbolic Studies. He said that he 904 00:47:11.159 --> 00:47:14.920 bought a pair of night vision goggles, just the monacular 905 00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:18.960 one just the one eyed one, and he was like, dude, 906 00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:22.199 I saw something and it came it came down to me, 907 00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:24.880 and then it went through me. He goes, I saw it, 908 00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:28.320 It happened to me, and we were just like, I 909 00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:30.119 guess we're gonna have to invest in some night vision 910 00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:34.280 goggles then, because I need to experience this, especially in 911 00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:36.840 what he was saying was is that his wife was 912 00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:38.639 down on the ground there with him, but she didn't 913 00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:42.079 They only had one pair of the envgs and so 914 00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:44.199 she wasn't able to see it, but he was able 915 00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:47.400 to see it. So interesting that you know, these things 916 00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:51.239 are happening outside of the light spectrum that we have 917 00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:54.920 access to, and yet here they are happening not only 918 00:47:55.360 --> 00:47:57.920 you know, miles up in the sky, but all around us. 919 00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:01.360 And I almost wonder, is this what you know the 920 00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:04.920 the ancient like Celtic people used to refer to as 921 00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:08.039 fairies and fay folk, Right, Yeah, it. 922 00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:11.599 Goes back to that, just labels. It's all labels for 923 00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:15.199 the same thing, I think, and I definitely agree. I 924 00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:18.800 think I are like infrared. There is so much more 925 00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:23.000 going on you can see an infrared than normal, Like 926 00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:26.119 my psionics. Whenever I use that to record. I can 927 00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:29.760 see so many different things that I can't see normally. 928 00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:33.599 So wait, his your son's name is Onyx, like the Pokemon. 929 00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:36.480 No, sorry, my psionics camera. 930 00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:39.679 Oh okay, I heard that all the way right, my son's. 931 00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:41.920 Actually named link from like legend Mizelda. 932 00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:45.960 Oh nice, perfect, perfect. 933 00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:50.719 Yeah that's crazy, dude. Yeah, I would definitely love to 934 00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:53.599 to invest in those. And you so you have some 935 00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:55.800 some night vision goggles then, so. 936 00:48:56.039 --> 00:48:59.159 I don't have night vision goggles. I have that camera, 937 00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:05.079 the Psionic camera. It records an infrared. But the people 938 00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:08.239 who on the ranch where I had my events at 939 00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:10.719 this year, they have two pairs and I believe they 940 00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:14.920 were six thousand dollars a pair, Like these are legit military, 941 00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:19.239 Like I didn't even use night vision binoculars and I 942 00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:20.880 was in the Air Forces, so this is the first 943 00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:22.280 time I got to use them. I was like, damn, 944 00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:26.159 these things are legit, Like you can see everything like 945 00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:27.840 it's insane. 946 00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:31.280 And I imagine they're worth it, you know, Oh absolutely, 947 00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:33.079 that's the thing that we miss out on. I feel like, 948 00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:34.920 especially if you live in the city, you know, you 949 00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:37.840 don't get to see as many stars as there do 950 00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:39.840 they record or is it just visual. 951 00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:42.679 No, So those ones were just visual, which is the 952 00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:43.480 unfortunate part. 953 00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:46.519 Yeah, I know, because you want to like as soon 954 00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:49.199 as you see something, you're like, nobody's gonna believe me, 955 00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:50.039 but I just saw. 956 00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:53.880 Or you're byr with people and you're the only ones 957 00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:55.679 that can see what you're watching. 958 00:49:55.719 --> 00:49:56.639 You can't say a look at that. 959 00:49:56.840 --> 00:50:00.719 You know, there was something that in one of your 960 00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:04.519 tiktoks that you were talking about as far as going 961 00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:07.840 into like a meditative state or falling asleep consciously, and 962 00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:10.000 you were able to see through your eyelids, could you 963 00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:11.480 tell us? Yeah. 964 00:50:11.559 --> 00:50:16.639 So when I first got into the phenomenon and looking 965 00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:18.719 for the orbs and everything, I kind of had like 966 00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:22.280 a convergence of multiple things happened at the same time. 967 00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:26.199 So I started looking in I started looking at the sky. 968 00:50:26.360 --> 00:50:31.239 I started researching into the phenomenon. I also started listening 969 00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:35.440 to the Monroe Institute Gateway tapes Let's Go. So I 970 00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:39.800 started doing those, and I did those like every day 971 00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:43.239 for like a year. Every morning at five am, I'd 972 00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:46.719 just wake up and do one or two of those meditations. 973 00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:52.039 And after I don't know, like six or so months, 974 00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:54.760 I finally decide I want to try to like have 975 00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:57.920 an out of body experience, like the way that Robert 976 00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:03.239 Monroe describes. So you go to bed and you try 977 00:51:03.239 --> 00:51:07.679 to sleep for I think two like sleep cycles, and 978 00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:10.760 then you wake up and then that's when you're gonna 979 00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:15.559 do your meditation. So the day it happens, it was 980 00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:19.280 kind of like a combination of things. Again. But I 981 00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:20.960 didn't have to go to work that day, so I 982 00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:24.079 was already excited. It was payday, so I just got paid. 983 00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:26.760 I knew the bills were good, like everything's good, and 984 00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:31.159 I was going hiking. And then that day before, my 985 00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:34.599 friend had told me just about this meditation he found 986 00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:38.360 on YouTube, which is Unlock Your Life, Beginner's Guide to 987 00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:41.960 Astral Projection. It's like an hour and forty minute meditation 988 00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:44.800 on YouTube. And he's like, I found this meditation. I'm 989 00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:47.159 gonna check it out. And I was like, okay, cool. 990 00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:49.079 So I go to bed that night and I just 991 00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:53.199 woke up at three am and I was like, I'm 992 00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:55.800 just gonna try this meditation. So I threw it on 993 00:51:56.840 --> 00:52:01.800 and I listened to it and I stayed like aware, 994 00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:05.639 like through pretty much the whole meditation and at the 995 00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:08.000 end when it ended, as soon as it stopped. I 996 00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:14.920 felt these insane like vibrations throughout my body and like 997 00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:18.239 you know, the little shocky pins like when you shock it. 998 00:52:18.760 --> 00:52:21.639 It felt like that through my entire body, and it 999 00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:26.199 did that for probably like fifteen seconds. But when it happened. 1000 00:52:27.519 --> 00:52:30.119 From learning about out of boy experiences, I knew this 1001 00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:33.039 was like a common occurrence, so I told myself, like, 1002 00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:37.280 just stay calm, just breathe. So I went through that 1003 00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:40.559 and then it stopped, and I was like okay, and 1004 00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:42.440 then it started again, and I went through a couple 1005 00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:45.320 of cycles of these vibrations, and then all of a sudden, 1006 00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:48.920 I could see my room through my eyelids and it 1007 00:52:48.960 --> 00:52:52.000 wasn't dark anymore. It was kind of like a blue, 1008 00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:56.760 kind of like toned light, and I could see my 1009 00:52:56.840 --> 00:52:59.880 ceiling fans spinning, and I realized, like, oh no, I'm 1010 00:52:59.880 --> 00:53:02.159 like kind of getting close to this thing, so like 1011 00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:08.599 I was floating up towards it. Oh and researching into 1012 00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:11.679 out of body experiences, I've heard from so many people 1013 00:53:11.880 --> 00:53:14.440 that when they look back to look at their body, 1014 00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:17.440 it freaks them out so bad that they snap back in. 1015 00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:19.320 So I was like, I'm not gonna look at my 1016 00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:20.280 body at all. 1017 00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:23.320 So yeah, so. 1018 00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:27.800 It was weird though it was my room, but like 1019 00:53:27.960 --> 00:53:31.159 my bedroom window is over here and we have curtains 1020 00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:35.280 in front of it. The curtains were now moved to 1021 00:53:35.400 --> 00:53:38.599 my other wall and we're blocking my closet door and 1022 00:53:38.679 --> 00:53:42.760 my bathroom door, and the window was open, and then 1023 00:53:42.800 --> 00:53:44.480 I was able to just think, like I want to 1024 00:53:44.519 --> 00:53:46.440 go to the window. And then I was at the window, 1025 00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:50.519 and then I was looking out my backyard. And the 1026 00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:53.440 strange thing is it was like my backyard from a 1027 00:53:53.480 --> 00:53:56.079 couple of years before, like we had to play like 1028 00:53:56.119 --> 00:53:58.480 a swing set back there that we got rid of 1029 00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:01.320 and got a trampoline, and the swing set was there. 1030 00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:04.000 I was like, that's weird. I was like, I want 1031 00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:05.599 to go out there. Next thing I know, I'm at 1032 00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:08.679 the swing set and I told myself. I was like, okay, 1033 00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:11.559 I'm gonna go touch the slide and if it's hard plastic, 1034 00:54:11.760 --> 00:54:15.280 like this is like real, I don't know what the 1035 00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:17.480 hell is going on. So I go and hit it 1036 00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:19.800 and it was so solid, and I was just like 1037 00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:22.159 I freaked out, and I was like me and my 1038 00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:24.039 friend were trying to get out of body. So I 1039 00:54:24.079 --> 00:54:25.880 was like I gotta go try to find my friend 1040 00:54:26.039 --> 00:54:29.760 and then I just ended up in some weird location 1041 00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:32.559 after that, and it got kind of like a bit 1042 00:54:32.679 --> 00:54:35.960 strange and kind of fuzzy after that point. Like definitely 1043 00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:38.840 the most clear part was me floating out and being 1044 00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:44.519 like in my room and backyard. But that experience cemented 1045 00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:48.679 in like my beliefs that we are more than our 1046 00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:52.559 physical bodies, like we do exist outside of this thing. 1047 00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:58.079 And I honestly it was the craziest experience ever. And 1048 00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:02.599 I was on such a from that experience too, So 1049 00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:05.760 that night I was like, Okay, I'm gonna try again, 1050 00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:10.239 and I went through probably the most terrifying experience I've 1051 00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:14.800 ever experienced that night. Yes, so I went through the 1052 00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:18.880 meditation again at three am, I set my arm, woke up, 1053 00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:23.400 I went through the vibrations once this time, and then 1054 00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:26.000 all of a sudden, it felt like something just grabbed 1055 00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:29.679 my ankles and I went moving like it felt like 1056 00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:33.599 I was sliding across the top of my sheets and 1057 00:55:33.679 --> 00:55:36.280 my bed was in zero grabphy mode, and I could 1058 00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:40.320 feel the like bumps sliding under my fingers, like as 1059 00:55:40.360 --> 00:55:45.000 the sheets were like sliding. It's the strangest sensation. It 1060 00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:49.880 felt like I got dragged for what I described as 1061 00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:52.800 like a quarter mile, like I don't know, like but 1062 00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:56.400 like zero to like one hundred and like nothing, just 1063 00:55:56.480 --> 00:56:01.679 like quarter mile. And then this is where the fear 1064 00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:02.599 came in, so. 1065 00:56:03.079 --> 00:56:05.840 I would imagine, yeah. 1066 00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:09.000 And then I was just in like some room and 1067 00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:12.039 there was like two people in there and I tried 1068 00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:13.960 to go talk to them and they wouldn't like give 1069 00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:17.159 me any attention. And then there was a doorway, so 1070 00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:19.679 I went through that doorway and I was some some 1071 00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:21.960 other room that was filled with like a fog or 1072 00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:27.239 mist or something, and I saw like two great alien 1073 00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:29.559 heads floating above the mist, and then all of a sudden, 1074 00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:32.440 it was just like blacked out. And then I was 1075 00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:35.360 like I knew I was back in my body. And 1076 00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:39.519 then I got dragged again and I so I'm just 1077 00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:42.679 like freaking out because I was like, what the hell 1078 00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:46.639 is going on? That was freaking terrifying. And then I 1079 00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:50.159 don't know like if this was to like try to 1080 00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:52.199 calm me down or what. I ended up in just 1081 00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:55.920 like some house and there was a like a party 1082 00:56:55.960 --> 00:56:57.880 going on. There was a bunch of food on the 1083 00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:01.400 table and there was some lady. I went up to 1084 00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:03.840 her and she's like, oh, enjoy any of the food, 1085 00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:07.840 eat whatever you want. And there was some fudge dipped oreos. 1086 00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:10.639 I remember because I was like, those look so good 1087 00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:13.800 right now. So I actually ate one and it tasted 1088 00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:17.920 just like eating in real life. What And then yeah, 1089 00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:21.119 like this is the craziest experience, Like I don't even 1090 00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:23.639 know what to make of this at all, whatsoever? Still, 1091 00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:28.119 and then I like snapped back to black again, got 1092 00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:32.159 dragged a third time, and then it got fuzzy. At 1093 00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:34.960 that point in my like the corner of my arm, 1094 00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:37.719 like right here on my elbow started burning really bad, 1095 00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:40.360 and I wasn't sure if it was like how I 1096 00:57:40.440 --> 00:57:43.360 was laying or what was going on. But then at 1097 00:57:43.360 --> 00:57:46.800 that point, like I snapped back to black, and I 1098 00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:48.719 knew I was back in my body, and I was like, okay, 1099 00:57:48.760 --> 00:57:51.920 I'm gonna open my eyes. And I opened my eyes 1100 00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:56.000 and it was twenty minutes past when the meditation would 1101 00:57:56.000 --> 00:57:59.440 have ended. Was when I opened my eyes. So all 1102 00:57:59.519 --> 00:58:01.840 that happened and in the span of like twenty minutes. 1103 00:58:02.039 --> 00:58:05.480 Wow, I mean, that's that just sounds like duality to me. 1104 00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:06.119 You know what I mean? 1105 00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:09.800 The first experience was just like fucking awesome. You're like, 1106 00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:12.440 what is what is this you're you're you touch the 1107 00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:15.000 slide to see if it's real, and it's almost like 1108 00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:17.840 you're creating this this amazing experience. And then the next time, 1109 00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:20.000 because you're so excited, you're like, let me do that again, 1110 00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:22.840 and it's the most terrifying, you know. So it's like 1111 00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:26.000 both of those things are possible. You know. It's actually 1112 00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:28.719 kind of interesting, you know that you were saying as 1113 00:58:28.719 --> 00:58:33.320 far as like almost falling asleep consciously basically when you 1114 00:58:33.320 --> 00:58:36.519 were getting that electrical feeling like throughout your whole body. 1115 00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:39.480 Was there a sound with that as well? 1116 00:58:39.800 --> 00:58:40.039 Well? 1117 00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:42.679 I didn't have a sound I've heard like other people's 1118 00:58:42.760 --> 00:58:45.960 experience still here, like a really loud pop, like almost 1119 00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:48.840 like a gunshot or something going off. But I didn't 1120 00:58:48.920 --> 00:58:50.800 experience any sound when I had that. 1121 00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:53.519 Okay, so when you start to see through your eyelids, though, 1122 00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:55.800 just stay locked in because every time that because that's 1123 00:58:55.800 --> 00:58:57.960 happened to me a few times, and when it happens, 1124 00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:00.880 I kinda I kind of get like a astonished, you know, 1125 00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:04.159 and then it just fades away and it's like ah, 1126 00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:05.840 and so I try to do it again, you know, 1127 00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:10.239 But that is crazy. It almost seems like the first 1128 00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:13.400 experience was more of a conscious experience, something that you 1129 00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:16.800 were in control of, right the the you and then 1130 00:59:16.920 --> 00:59:22.119 the the other experience, the more scary experience maybe was 1131 00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:25.320 was your subconscious kind of taking the taking the wheel, 1132 00:59:25.599 --> 00:59:27.920 you know, it kind of along for the right. I 1133 00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:30.679 don't know, but why would it be such a such 1134 00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:31.760 a start, you know? 1135 00:59:31.960 --> 00:59:35.639 So I was I was when I first had it happen, 1136 00:59:36.039 --> 00:59:39.119 Like I was thinking it was basically them installing like 1137 00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:41.840 a block because the amount of fear I had after 1138 00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:46.519 that experience, I couldn't even meditate for like weeks afterwards, 1139 00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:48.679 Like it was terrifying. 1140 00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:52.039 I know, the feeling it's it's now been. 1141 00:59:51.920 --> 00:59:54.480 A year and I'm finally at the point where like 1142 00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:55.960 I feel like I could try to go out of 1143 00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:59.079 body again. So it was kind of like a block, 1144 00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:03.760 I feel like, or the crazy thing too, Like I 1145 01:00:03.760 --> 01:00:08.599 started learning about abductions afterwards, and I was listening to 1146 01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:13.400 John Max's Abduction and just listening to people's experiences, and 1147 01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:17.719 I had the thought that maybe all abductions aren't physical, 1148 01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:20.840 Like maybe you can be astrally abducted and like have 1149 01:00:20.920 --> 01:00:24.239 work done on you, ye, And maybe that's like I 1150 01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:27.519 don't I've talked to other experiencers, I'd like the whole 1151 01:00:27.559 --> 01:00:30.880 abduction thing, I don't I don't know how to feel about. 1152 01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:34.679 I don't like consider myself being abducted or anything like that. 1153 01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:39.920 But just like talking to other experiencers, they say that 1154 01:00:40.039 --> 01:00:44.039 my memories of that sound a lot like screener memories 1155 01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:48.039 that would be like implanted in there to like try 1156 01:00:48.039 --> 01:00:51.000 to calm me down after the crazy experience. 1157 01:00:51.119 --> 01:00:54.320 But yeah, who knows, I mean, how could you know, right? 1158 01:00:54.440 --> 01:00:57.159 But yeah, I know it's like the same as you 1159 01:00:57.239 --> 01:01:00.400 as far as that goes, Like most auctions, a kind 1160 01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:02.960 of of that that state of mind that you can 1161 01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:06.239 get yourself into, you know, and that's when something is possible. 1162 01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:09.360 Not to say that there isn't something out there that's 1163 01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:12.000 doing it, but that's when you would experience it. They 1164 01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:15.199 kind of meet you there on that that wavelength. 1165 01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:18.920 Well, you think if you think about it, like if 1166 01:01:18.920 --> 01:01:24.400 it's just taking you whatever you identify as, you know, 1167 01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:28.039 do you identify as your body that you are a 1168 01:01:28.159 --> 01:01:31.519 human and and you know, whenever I die whatever, right, 1169 01:01:31.800 --> 01:01:35.480 or do you identify yourself as the consciousness that that 1170 01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:38.079 almost lives forever that it can get out of body? 1171 01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:41.599 Maybe you've had, you know, weird meditations or psychedelic experiences 1172 01:01:41.639 --> 01:01:44.079 where you have been able to you know, kind of 1173 01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:47.679 get into some kind of outer body phase, right, And 1174 01:01:47.800 --> 01:01:51.159 so you know, and we've heard of, you know, wild 1175 01:01:51.199 --> 01:01:54.599 abduction stories too. There's there's one that's super crazy out there. 1176 01:01:55.320 --> 01:01:58.119 We had this lady on her name was Karen Wilkerson, 1177 01:01:58.599 --> 01:02:01.000 and she wrote a book on on this kind of 1178 01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:04.239 stuff about how she was abducted, like dude, like hundreds 1179 01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:07.480 or thousands of times, and it was always during during 1180 01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:09.440 her sleep, Like she would go to sleep, she'd be 1181 01:02:09.480 --> 01:02:12.280 sleeping right next to her husband, and the same thing 1182 01:02:12.519 --> 01:02:15.800 almost every single night. She said that they were coming 1183 01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:18.760 and getting her and bringing her to like what was that, 1184 01:02:18.920 --> 01:02:23.400 like this underground tunnel and like into like this weird 1185 01:02:23.679 --> 01:02:28.760 demonic layer where they would basically impregnate her and then 1186 01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:32.400 they would I guess take her baby away from her 1187 01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:34.800 and all this kind of stuff, and she I mean, 1188 01:02:35.559 --> 01:02:37.760 I don't know. I Whenever I hear something like that, 1189 01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:40.679 I try and make sense of it because I first thing, 1190 01:02:41.079 --> 01:02:43.760 the last thing I want to do is discredit somebody's 1191 01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:47.880 experience because I wasn't there, and we're never going to 1192 01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:51.320 experience everything not in this lifetime, you know. Yeah, And 1193 01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:55.119 so if what she's saying that her experience was absolutely real, 1194 01:02:55.519 --> 01:02:57.679 how was it real? And what way can my mind 1195 01:02:57.719 --> 01:03:00.440 wrap itself around that? And I would just say that 1196 01:03:00.519 --> 01:03:03.920 if look, if there's amazing experiences that people are having, 1197 01:03:04.119 --> 01:03:07.960 you know, in these altered states, then of course it's 1198 01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:10.320 going to be a dualistic kind of thing that's going 1199 01:03:10.360 --> 01:03:12.000 to happen. There's going to be some that are awesome, 1200 01:03:12.039 --> 01:03:14.760 there's going to be some that you know, are not preferable, 1201 01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:18.639 you know, And so why wouldn't it happen. It's all 1202 01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:22.320 just experience at that point, and you know, and especially 1203 01:03:23.519 --> 01:03:28.400 taking a ride with your conscious with your consciousness is 1204 01:03:29.079 --> 01:03:31.480 I mean, there are no bounds, there's no limits as 1205 01:03:31.480 --> 01:03:34.480 to what can happen. But what does seem to happen 1206 01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:40.840 is that it almost feeds off of your like state, 1207 01:03:40.920 --> 01:03:45.480 your vibrational state, whatever your frequency is. It almost matches 1208 01:03:45.639 --> 01:03:47.559 to whatever you're about to experience. 1209 01:03:48.039 --> 01:03:48.239 You know. 1210 01:03:48.320 --> 01:03:51.639 Me and John we had a crazy psychedelic experience, like 1211 01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:55.280 not even a month ago, and I was in an absolute, 1212 01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:58.920 like crazy amount of fear, the most fear I've ever 1213 01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:02.000 had in my entire life, Like I would imagine if 1214 01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:04.239 Sean wasn't there, I would have died like straight up 1215 01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:08.039 heart attack paralysis. I would probably just be a straight 1216 01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:10.599 up vegetable like that, honestly, Like that's how I think 1217 01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:13.920 about it. And like it was crippling fear, you know. 1218 01:04:14.199 --> 01:04:17.159 And and of course to match with that, what I 1219 01:04:17.280 --> 01:04:21.840 was seeing was more crippling fearful things that you know, 1220 01:04:22.039 --> 01:04:24.639 align with what the frequency was that I was giving off. 1221 01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:26.400 Now what came first, the chicken or the egg? I 1222 01:04:26.440 --> 01:04:30.400 don't remember, you know, Like at first, you know, I'm 1223 01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:32.840 kind of weird with it, dude. Whenever I see Sean 1224 01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:35.599 starting to trip and I'm not there yet, I almost 1225 01:04:35.639 --> 01:04:38.559 try to psych myself out and make myself trip a 1226 01:04:38.599 --> 01:04:41.480 little bit more, you know, like in a weird, sick, 1227 01:04:41.679 --> 01:04:43.760 kind of delusional kind of way, thinking that it's not 1228 01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:46.400 going to work on me, but then it works to 1229 01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:50.320 my disadvantage, you know. So the mind is a really 1230 01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:53.320 really strange place to be in and and and as 1231 01:04:53.320 --> 01:04:56.519 far as like the frequency that you're giving off, it 1232 01:04:56.639 --> 01:04:59.679 is crazy about how whenever you're sad or you're angry, 1233 01:04:59.800 --> 01:05:03.280 you're happy, or you're in love or you're whatever, every 1234 01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:06.800 single thing around you matches that frequency. It seems like 1235 01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:09.400 right like some kind of matrix kind of thing is 1236 01:05:09.440 --> 01:05:11.760 going on, and it is absolutely feeding off of what 1237 01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:12.239 you are. 1238 01:05:13.400 --> 01:05:16.480 Definitely it's crazy. The crazy thing is I wouldn't have 1239 01:05:16.559 --> 01:05:19.159 believed that just a couple of years ago, But now, 1240 01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:22.599 like every day, like i quit my job back in 1241 01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:26.800 July and I'm now going to school full time. And 1242 01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:29.000 I was at my job for eight years. I was 1243 01:05:29.039 --> 01:05:32.519 completely miserable and just so ready for a lifestyle change. 1244 01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:34.960 And now every day when I'm driving to school, I 1245 01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:38.920 just list off everything I'm grateful for. I'm so thankful 1246 01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:42.280 for everything I have. Like I say, money is attracted 1247 01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:45.480 to me, comes from me easily, abundance flows through my life. 1248 01:05:45.679 --> 01:05:48.360 I'm filled with love and happiness. And then the crazy 1249 01:05:48.400 --> 01:05:52.679 thing is, I was working that whole time. My bank 1250 01:05:52.679 --> 01:05:56.239 account was like draining and like stuck at this level. 1251 01:05:56.280 --> 01:05:59.360 I quit my job, and now like my bank account's grown, 1252 01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:03.400 I'm so much happier and like free to do these things. 1253 01:06:03.639 --> 01:06:08.400 And it's really I just realized it's me saying these 1254 01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:12.239 things every day, Like you really do create your reality, 1255 01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:15.159 and it's like you're saying like whatever you're feeling and 1256 01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:17.880 putting out, that's what you're getting back. So when you 1257 01:06:17.960 --> 01:06:22.119 are stuck in that fear and that like negative just 1258 01:06:22.280 --> 01:06:26.599 lifestyle and just feeling whack, like we like to latch 1259 01:06:26.719 --> 01:06:29.079 onto that so much, but when you finally let go 1260 01:06:29.159 --> 01:06:31.920 and just open up like abundance into your life, like 1261 01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:33.519 it's crazy what happens. 1262 01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:38.000 Absolutely, we were just talking recently and I was trying 1263 01:06:38.039 --> 01:06:40.280 to come up with, you know, just on the spot, 1264 01:06:40.360 --> 01:06:42.480 like what is it that that needs to be done, 1265 01:06:42.559 --> 01:06:46.039 How is it that how can we get everybody kind 1266 01:06:46.039 --> 01:06:49.280 of together into just more understanding and more you know, 1267 01:06:49.320 --> 01:06:52.000 I mean, just the understanding that we are kind of one, 1268 01:06:52.280 --> 01:06:53.840 you know, one thing and we're all just trying to 1269 01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:56.039 get along here. And I think that's what it is, man, 1270 01:06:56.079 --> 01:06:58.320 you were saying earlier, as far as you know, we're 1271 01:06:58.639 --> 01:07:01.719 vocabulary and label you know, kind of getting in the way. 1272 01:07:01.800 --> 01:07:04.159 But one thing that we can agree on is a feeling, 1273 01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:07.679 you know, And so everybody kind of you know, picked 1274 01:07:07.719 --> 01:07:10.639 their vibration up and was able to pick up on 1275 01:07:10.800 --> 01:07:13.440 how someone else was feeling, then there's no words that 1276 01:07:13.480 --> 01:07:15.320 would need to be used that would be that would 1277 01:07:15.320 --> 01:07:16.639 get in the way, you know what I'm saying. And 1278 01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:19.199 so if we all just had that understanding, and we 1279 01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:21.880 were all just grateful, and we were all just you know, 1280 01:07:21.960 --> 01:07:24.280 compassionate and and you know, you don't want to see 1281 01:07:24.280 --> 01:07:25.880 somebody in pain, and so you're going to try to 1282 01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:28.480 help them if you see that they are they are hurting, 1283 01:07:28.599 --> 01:07:30.599 you know, And I think that's what it is. Man. 1284 01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:33.119 It's just I feel like it's a long road, but 1285 01:07:33.159 --> 01:07:35.400 I feel like it's at least we're on that road. 1286 01:07:35.960 --> 01:07:38.719 And then with like the telepathy tapes coming out, like 1287 01:07:38.800 --> 01:07:41.760 it seems like we are possibly on the path to 1288 01:07:42.159 --> 01:07:46.480 changing that communication to be able to not be limited 1289 01:07:46.480 --> 01:07:49.679 by words anymore. Like when you tell someone the word Christmas, 1290 01:07:49.679 --> 01:07:51.760 like they're going to picture just like one thing, but 1291 01:07:51.800 --> 01:07:55.159 they're not going to get that whole feeling of like everything, 1292 01:07:55.280 --> 01:07:59.760 like the entire experience and everything you're feeling within yourself. 1293 01:07:59.840 --> 01:08:01.880 So when we get to that point of being able 1294 01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:06.599 to communicate like sending feelings like that, I think there's 1295 01:08:06.599 --> 01:08:10.800 going to be a lot less misunderstanding. And like myself, 1296 01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:14.159 I hate speaking, like public speaking like anything like that, 1297 01:08:14.320 --> 01:08:18.800 Like I didn't I don't like speaking, So it's kind 1298 01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:21.000 of makes sense like hearing these kids talk about they 1299 01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:24.039 don't like speaking and it feels like our way we're 1300 01:08:24.119 --> 01:08:27.520 supposed to be communicating is the way they're communicating, Like 1301 01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:31.079 we're supposed to be communicating telepathically them. 1302 01:08:31.359 --> 01:08:35.800 Yeah, it seems like it's the harder way to communicate. 1303 01:08:35.359 --> 01:08:37.279 Is to say, yeah, it's not very efficient. 1304 01:08:37.439 --> 01:08:41.439 And I learned that whenever I had my my experiences. 1305 01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:44.000 What that's what they did for me with my guides. 1306 01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:47.399 I mean, I've got four years almost now worth of 1307 01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:54.279 transcripts of telepathic communication with my guides that I say 1308 01:08:54.319 --> 01:08:56.159 it all out loud as they're saying it to me, 1309 01:08:56.840 --> 01:09:00.479 and then transcribe it all into text. And when it 1310 01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:03.279 first happened and I heard them, it's it's not like 1311 01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:06.720 a channeling thing. It's like direct conversation back and forth 1312 01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:12.159 like this. And that's what proved me that telepathy is real. 1313 01:09:12.199 --> 01:09:14.840 I'm like, it's not coming for me, and I know 1314 01:09:14.880 --> 01:09:17.520 it's not them. And then that's how I was able 1315 01:09:17.560 --> 01:09:20.399 to confirm the things that I was seeing in the 1316 01:09:20.399 --> 01:09:24.039 sky after the fact from them and in real time, 1317 01:09:24.119 --> 01:09:27.479 like I mean, I've gone out asked them like the 1318 01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:30.640 telepathy was first, and then the sky things were second, 1319 01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:33.079 and then I would say, hey, was that y'all? And 1320 01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:35.199 then they would say yes it was or I would 1321 01:09:35.239 --> 01:09:37.520 go out ask them and then they'd show up immediately 1322 01:09:37.560 --> 01:09:41.199 afterwards on video. So it's like for me, it's a 1323 01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:43.279 it's a personal thing, you know, and it's for others 1324 01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:45.800 like obviously it's connecting those dots and then do you 1325 01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:48.479 believe it or not? But I've got the luxury of 1326 01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:52.600 personal experience and no question and I don't know. 1327 01:09:52.640 --> 01:09:54.199 It's it's pretty crazy. 1328 01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:58.479 It is crazy. And that's what like people are so 1329 01:09:58.640 --> 01:10:01.960 quick to like bash someone and like I'm not saying 1330 01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:04.680 it's not crazy, Like you don't think that. I think 1331 01:10:04.760 --> 01:10:07.399 this is crazy that I'm going on recording like orbs 1332 01:10:07.399 --> 01:10:11.720 in the sky and posting these videos. Like my wife 1333 01:10:11.800 --> 01:10:15.000 thinks I'm insane, Like she's like, what the fuck happened? 1334 01:10:15.239 --> 01:10:17.760 Like what the hell? Like you and were not into 1335 01:10:17.800 --> 01:10:21.000 any of this stuff, and it was just I don't know, 1336 01:10:21.079 --> 01:10:25.159 it's like that telepathic download, Like I'm just driven to 1337 01:10:25.279 --> 01:10:29.199 like I need to teach people this information. I need 1338 01:10:29.239 --> 01:10:31.840 to show them that there's so much more out there 1339 01:10:31.880 --> 01:10:33.760 than what we've been led to believe. 1340 01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:37.880 Yeah, no, And I asked I had to explain the 1341 01:10:37.880 --> 01:10:40.520 stuff that was going on with my guides and stuff 1342 01:10:40.520 --> 01:10:42.920 to my friends and family because it was like it's 1343 01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:47.159 pretty profound shit, honestly, and until has continued since then, 1344 01:10:47.239 --> 01:10:50.880 but uh, I asked them. I was like, Hey, is 1345 01:10:50.880 --> 01:10:54.680 there anything that like y'all can do in like real 1346 01:10:54.760 --> 01:10:57.920 life that's tangible for the people around me that they 1347 01:10:57.920 --> 01:11:02.239 can see with their own eyes to like help corroborate 1348 01:11:02.520 --> 01:11:04.840 the stuff that I'm that y'all are telling me that 1349 01:11:04.880 --> 01:11:08.720 I'm sharing with them, Like, and that's whenever the ORBS 1350 01:11:08.720 --> 01:11:11.560 starts showing up and you know, just all that that 1351 01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:13.359 I see you that video that that was all the 1352 01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:15.720 best ones or whatever. But like ever, I was like, 1353 01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:19.359 I need some help because it's just my word to 1354 01:11:19.439 --> 01:11:23.359 them at this point, and ever since then, everyone around 1355 01:11:23.359 --> 01:11:27.039 me sees them. It's just understood. Like my friends are 1356 01:11:27.359 --> 01:11:30.239 looking up and seeing them before me. Now whenever we're 1357 01:11:30.279 --> 01:11:32.760 going out and it's just now it's like, hey, they're 1358 01:11:32.800 --> 01:11:33.119 at the. 1359 01:11:33.079 --> 01:11:35.479 Party kind of thing and everybody. 1360 01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:38.880 It's become a fun thing for everyone, and you know, 1361 01:11:39.159 --> 01:11:40.079 it's it's been. 1362 01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:42.000 Really cool and it seems like they get down at 1363 01:11:42.119 --> 01:11:49.359 raves too, which is pretty sweet. Yeah, So justin I 1364 01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:51.159 do want to ask you you you talk about how 1365 01:11:51.199 --> 01:11:53.720 you go outside and you almost like you're praying. Is 1366 01:11:53.800 --> 01:11:56.520 that are you going out there in uh like kind 1367 01:11:56.560 --> 01:11:58.439 of like a CE five kind of fashion. 1368 01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:02.720 So I've actually I've tried CE five, Like I've downloaded 1369 01:12:02.720 --> 01:12:05.760 the app and everything. I only did that like maybe 1370 01:12:06.359 --> 01:12:10.199 like three or four times in the of the God. 1371 01:12:10.359 --> 01:12:13.279 That was like probably last year. Like I tried it out. 1372 01:12:14.439 --> 01:12:16.920 For the most part, I just go out and I 1373 01:12:17.039 --> 01:12:19.840 just like, you know, I just kind of have like 1374 01:12:19.880 --> 01:12:21.960 a heart to heart with the sky and just like 1375 01:12:22.319 --> 01:12:26.439 reflect on my day and like ask for Like in 1376 01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:31.119 the beginning, I was really asking for knowledge and like 1377 01:12:31.119 --> 01:12:34.000 like what's going on? And when I first started to 1378 01:12:34.039 --> 01:12:36.439 get into the topic, I was like nuts and bolts 1379 01:12:36.479 --> 01:12:39.159 and I was very like this a secret military or 1380 01:12:39.199 --> 01:12:42.720 something like that. And I was going out praying, asking 1381 01:12:42.760 --> 01:12:47.960 for knowledge. And then like I found Chris Bloodsoe and 1382 01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:50.279 then I started listening to Bloodsoe said so, and that's 1383 01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:55.560 when I learned about like all these ancient estheteric teachings 1384 01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:58.840 and realized, like here's the knowledge I was asking for, 1385 01:12:59.039 --> 01:13:03.119 Like this has been here the whole time, and yeah, 1386 01:13:03.199 --> 01:13:08.239 it's just has evolved over time to get to this 1387 01:13:08.479 --> 01:13:12.800 spiritual point that I'm at now, but yeah, sorry, I 1388 01:13:12.880 --> 01:13:14.920 kind of completely forgot what you asked me. 1389 01:13:15.159 --> 01:13:18.079 No, you were just talking about like going out there 1390 01:13:18.159 --> 01:13:20.720 and basically talking to the sky and kind of running 1391 01:13:20.720 --> 01:13:23.159 through your your day a little bit, and so just 1392 01:13:23.199 --> 01:13:25.600 out of curiosity. Whenever you do go out there and 1393 01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:29.079 you do do that, do you do you go with 1394 01:13:29.319 --> 01:13:33.239 the expectation that if you do that, then they will 1395 01:13:33.239 --> 01:13:35.640 come almost like a field of dreams kind of situation 1396 01:13:36.079 --> 01:13:38.640 or like what are your thoughts whenever you're out there 1397 01:13:38.760 --> 01:13:41.600 right before you you may or may not see them. 1398 01:13:41.640 --> 01:13:42.399 What are you thinking? 1399 01:13:43.359 --> 01:13:47.199 So I'm always hopeful that I'll see something, but I 1400 01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:52.840 try to like set my expectations that if I don't 1401 01:13:52.840 --> 01:13:54.960 see anything, that's fine, Like I just want to go 1402 01:13:55.079 --> 01:13:58.199 out and connect with natures, look at the stars, like 1403 01:13:58.279 --> 01:14:02.239 that's beautiful enough as it is, and then I will 1404 01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:06.800 like send out the invite basically like if you're willing, 1405 01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:10.199 I would love to be able to record whatever phenomenon 1406 01:14:10.239 --> 01:14:13.119 you're willing to show me. And then I ask, please 1407 01:14:13.199 --> 01:14:16.239 if you could fly through where my camera is pointed, 1408 01:14:16.439 --> 01:14:18.960 which seems to help a lot because I've recorded a 1409 01:14:19.039 --> 01:14:21.560 lot of stuff and it is crazy, like most things 1410 01:14:21.560 --> 01:14:24.479 I see pretty much is where my camera's pointed. 1411 01:14:24.600 --> 01:14:25.000 Wow. 1412 01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:29.960 But yeah, I just ask for their help basically, like 1413 01:14:30.199 --> 01:14:34.039 please show me anything you'd like to show everyone to 1414 01:14:34.239 --> 01:14:36.479 help make them aware that you're out there. 1415 01:14:37.479 --> 01:14:40.680 Does it feel like a summoning kind of thing going on? 1416 01:14:42.079 --> 01:14:47.119 So I don't like internally really feel anything like Chris 1417 01:14:47.119 --> 01:14:52.319 Bloodsoe talks like he can feel when they're there. It's 1418 01:14:52.359 --> 01:14:56.840 more just like I ask for something and then it happens, 1419 01:14:56.840 --> 01:14:59.479 and I'm just like blown away that like it happens 1420 01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:04.479 like the last event I did. The night started out. 1421 01:15:04.800 --> 01:15:07.920 So the first two events we did, the weather was 1422 01:15:07.960 --> 01:15:12.880 absolutely terrible. It was horrible, and we still recorded amazing things. 1423 01:15:13.680 --> 01:15:18.000 In the third event, we finally got clear skies and 1424 01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:21.760 there was a family who drove up from Colorado Springs, 1425 01:15:21.840 --> 01:15:24.960 so they drove like three hours to come hang out 1426 01:15:24.960 --> 01:15:28.760 with us because they wanted to see the orbs so bad. 1427 01:15:29.520 --> 01:15:32.880 And the first thing we saw like right at like 1428 01:15:33.199 --> 01:15:35.520 I think it was six or six point thirty, where 1429 01:15:35.960 --> 01:15:39.640 two orbs side by side flying really fast like across 1430 01:15:39.640 --> 01:15:42.359 the sky. And I told him, I'm like, this is 1431 01:15:42.479 --> 01:15:44.600 rare for me to see. I've only seen this maybe 1432 01:15:44.680 --> 01:15:47.800 four or five times in the last two years. And 1433 01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:51.760 then it was like an hour later I was recording 1434 01:15:51.800 --> 01:15:54.640 the video and I was just like because the video 1435 01:15:54.640 --> 01:15:58.199 I got was not good. It was still twilight, like 1436 01:15:58.319 --> 01:16:01.079 it was really noisy and grainy in the video you 1437 01:16:01.079 --> 01:16:03.720 couldn't see it. And later I was like, man, I 1438 01:16:03.760 --> 01:16:06.479 really wish we could get two orbs side by side 1439 01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:11.039 like we did earlier. And literally fifty seconds later, like 1440 01:16:11.119 --> 01:16:13.760 I left the raw video with the time in there, 1441 01:16:14.479 --> 01:16:17.760 two giant orbs showed up and my friend's like, dude, 1442 01:16:17.920 --> 01:16:20.239 like look at this, and they were the biggest thing 1443 01:16:20.279 --> 01:16:23.159 in the sky. They were bigger than any star planet 1444 01:16:23.199 --> 01:16:26.399 you could possibly see, and they were just both side 1445 01:16:26.439 --> 01:16:28.640 by side right there for me to look at it. And 1446 01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:32.199 I was just like blown away, like holy shit, Like 1447 01:16:32.239 --> 01:16:37.159 did I just like manifest these? Like it literally did 1448 01:16:37.319 --> 01:16:40.960 what I asked within a minute, which is insane, Like 1449 01:16:41.479 --> 01:16:42.640 I don't know what to make of that. 1450 01:16:42.760 --> 01:16:45.800 I would imagine it almost feels like like you're becoming 1451 01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:48.920 Lucid in the dream, you know, like you ever had 1452 01:16:48.960 --> 01:16:51.199 like a Lucid dream and you're like, oh, I this 1453 01:16:51.239 --> 01:16:52.960 is a dream. I can do whatever I want if 1454 01:16:52.960 --> 01:16:54.840 I want to, And one of my favorite things to 1455 01:16:54.880 --> 01:16:57.439 do is like, pretend that I have like the remote 1456 01:16:57.479 --> 01:17:00.199 from Click the Adam Sandler movie, and I'll just like 1457 01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:03.399 pause and fast forward and you know, just manipulate reality 1458 01:17:03.439 --> 01:17:06.600 in that way. Or maybe hey, I just feel like flying. 1459 01:17:06.640 --> 01:17:08.399 I want to go up there and fly. And so 1460 01:17:08.520 --> 01:17:11.000 whenever you see something like this and you go outside 1461 01:17:11.039 --> 01:17:12.600 and you're like, you know, it'd be really awesome if 1462 01:17:12.640 --> 01:17:16.760 I could just see some kind of manifested physical phenomena 1463 01:17:16.840 --> 01:17:18.399 that I could see and maybe some of my friends 1464 01:17:18.479 --> 01:17:20.680 could see, and then you see it, it's almost like 1465 01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:23.600 it just reminds me of becoming Lucid in a dream, 1466 01:17:23.720 --> 01:17:24.000 you know. 1467 01:17:24.640 --> 01:17:25.119 Pretty much? 1468 01:17:25.239 --> 01:17:29.760 Yeah, can I give you something to consider potentially? So 1469 01:17:30.119 --> 01:17:32.880 in my experience, I don't ever I don't ever want 1470 01:17:32.920 --> 01:17:35.159 to tell anyone what to believe or what to think. 1471 01:17:35.279 --> 01:17:38.359 And this is just where my understanding is for me. 1472 01:17:38.880 --> 01:17:43.039 But if you have the assumption that we all have 1473 01:17:43.119 --> 01:17:46.840 guides in some way, right, and some of them can 1474 01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:52.239 be higher dimensional beings who also do have craft, if 1475 01:17:52.279 --> 01:17:57.279 you will your guides at least some of them are 1476 01:17:57.920 --> 01:18:00.800 always with you and they always know what you're thinking, 1477 01:18:02.119 --> 01:18:06.039 and they help manage your incarnation, you know, and all 1478 01:18:06.119 --> 01:18:11.000 that kind of stuff and they can hear you and 1479 01:18:11.319 --> 01:18:16.119 also respond visually to those kinds of things. 1480 01:18:16.159 --> 01:18:19.800 So if if they that's how a lot. 1481 01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:20.399 Of those. 1482 01:18:22.039 --> 01:18:24.880 You know, they know what you're thinking because they're with 1483 01:18:24.920 --> 01:18:28.800 you already anyway in that sense, And typically the people 1484 01:18:28.840 --> 01:18:36.199 that are having the most I guess experience and interactions 1485 01:18:36.680 --> 01:18:44.800 are with their particular like soul family group guide kind. 1486 01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:49.119 Of pod if you will, Yeah, I could. I could 1487 01:18:49.119 --> 01:18:50.039 see that definitely. 1488 01:18:51.239 --> 01:18:54.359 That's just from my side, And it seems to make 1489 01:18:54.399 --> 01:18:56.199 a lot of sense whenever you think about it that way. 1490 01:18:57.079 --> 01:19:01.079 Yeah, yeah, so crazy, like just trying to wrap my 1491 01:19:01.319 --> 01:19:06.720 brain around that, because and I think that whenever, whenever 1492 01:19:06.760 --> 01:19:09.279 you open your mind up to the possibility that your 1493 01:19:09.319 --> 01:19:12.640 guides are right there and they're they're with you all 1494 01:19:12.680 --> 01:19:15.039 the time, and maybe they're the ones that are almost 1495 01:19:15.079 --> 01:19:18.319 allowing you to see what you see, Like what do 1496 01:19:18.359 --> 01:19:20.000 you think is going on? Like do you think that 1497 01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:24.600 that's like are they almost What are your thoughts on 1498 01:19:24.720 --> 01:19:27.720 you before we even go that deep, like what are 1499 01:19:28.000 --> 01:19:30.600 what are your thoughts on your guides in the first place? 1500 01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:33.600 Like because I heard you mentioned them earlier, Like do 1501 01:19:33.640 --> 01:19:36.439 you ever get any kind of like do you ever 1502 01:19:36.479 --> 01:19:39.439 see any kind of physical emanation of them or is 1503 01:19:39.479 --> 01:19:42.720 it more of like a an internal knowing or whatever, 1504 01:19:42.880 --> 01:19:45.840 like what is really going on with your guides in particular? 1505 01:19:46.720 --> 01:19:51.520 All Right, So I didn't really like believe in guides 1506 01:19:51.600 --> 01:19:56.159 really too much until recently and really like creating my 1507 01:19:56.239 --> 01:20:01.640 shamanism videos, like I realized really that I've like we 1508 01:20:01.760 --> 01:20:03.800 all have guides in they're around us all the time, 1509 01:20:04.439 --> 01:20:08.479 and I love getting out of nature and hiking. And 1510 01:20:08.600 --> 01:20:12.239 this summer I had a couple of hiking experiences where 1511 01:20:12.920 --> 01:20:15.239 I got it was the middle of the day in 1512 01:20:15.279 --> 01:20:17.640 the middle of summer, and there was a deer just 1513 01:20:17.720 --> 01:20:20.279 crossing the path right in front of me, and it 1514 01:20:20.359 --> 01:20:22.920 was so cool. So I like got on video. And 1515 01:20:22.960 --> 01:20:25.760 then not even three days later, I went and did 1516 01:20:25.800 --> 01:20:28.960 a different hike in a different town, like forty five 1517 01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:31.960 miles away from our I was middle of the day again, 1518 01:20:32.399 --> 01:20:34.640 had another deer just right off the trail that I was 1519 01:20:34.680 --> 01:20:40.640 able to like interact with, and so that's when I 1520 01:20:40.680 --> 01:20:45.760 was like, Okay, maybe like guides present themselves in animals 1521 01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:49.560 and things like that. So that's like the first time 1522 01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:52.319 I've ever really even like looked up like you know, 1523 01:20:52.479 --> 01:20:55.479 shamanic meaning of seeing a deer or anything like that. 1524 01:20:55.560 --> 01:20:59.640 And it was crazy because the description was like exactly 1525 01:20:59.680 --> 01:21:03.000 what I'm going through creating this channel. It's like connecting 1526 01:21:03.119 --> 01:21:07.399 the spiritual and like the natural world and like all 1527 01:21:07.439 --> 01:21:11.199 these different things. And then I just went and did 1528 01:21:11.239 --> 01:21:15.560 another hike like a month or so ago, and the 1529 01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:19.880 way my hikes started out, which was crazy. So I 1530 01:21:19.920 --> 01:21:21.640 was supposed to have class that day, but I got 1531 01:21:21.640 --> 01:21:26.119 canceled because my professor had to attend a funeral. And 1532 01:21:27.239 --> 01:21:30.159 I just found out, like a day or two before that, 1533 01:21:30.399 --> 01:21:34.199 my friend's grandfather had passed. She like sent me a message. 1534 01:21:34.960 --> 01:21:37.520 So I was like thinking about death and stuff, but 1535 01:21:38.439 --> 01:21:41.279 I was excited to go do this hike. And I 1536 01:21:41.439 --> 01:21:43.319 drove out to do the hike, and the first thing 1537 01:21:43.359 --> 01:21:45.960 I saw when I got to the trailhead and got 1538 01:21:45.960 --> 01:21:48.359 in my car was like a thirteen year old boy 1539 01:21:48.479 --> 01:21:52.039 carrying a dead deer on his shoulders to his truck. 1540 01:21:53.279 --> 01:21:57.800 And that's like what cemented it in for me, Like, Okay, yeah, 1541 01:21:57.920 --> 01:22:01.279 this is how guides communicated. They can communicate through all 1542 01:22:01.359 --> 01:22:04.439 kinds of different ways, but like through animals is a 1543 01:22:04.479 --> 01:22:08.159 really common way. They also communicate through the orbs, like 1544 01:22:08.199 --> 01:22:10.600 I think when they're flashing and doing all those kinds 1545 01:22:10.640 --> 01:22:13.399 of things, Like I think that is communication. Like I 1546 01:22:13.479 --> 01:22:18.960 may not understand it like right now, but like subconsciously, 1547 01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:22.560 I'm sure that's like receiving some kind of information or something. 1548 01:22:22.880 --> 01:22:27.359 Yeah, and they orchestrate scenarios. Yeah, that's the way I've 1549 01:22:27.439 --> 01:22:29.119 kind of come to understand it. 1550 01:22:29.119 --> 01:22:34.760 It's like it's like higher dimensional scenario orchestration. 1551 01:22:34.359 --> 01:22:37.039 For meaning and like that kind of stuff. 1552 01:22:37.079 --> 01:22:40.079 It's just it's it's high level shit, and it's crazy 1553 01:22:40.079 --> 01:22:43.560 when you start to notice the wild this. 1554 01:22:43.640 --> 01:22:45.960 Is fifth dimensional shit we're talking about right here. 1555 01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:49.159 Okay, Yeah, and that's crazy because like you know, you 1556 01:22:49.239 --> 01:22:52.000 have all these experiences throughout your life, and you'll have 1557 01:22:52.119 --> 01:22:54.199 like something weird happen. You're like, oh, that's weird, and 1558 01:22:54.239 --> 01:22:56.520 then you don't think about it for a really long time, 1559 01:22:57.079 --> 01:22:59.840 and then you'll have some other weird experience happened that 1560 01:23:00.199 --> 01:23:03.039 next sit back to that experience you haven't thought about 1561 01:23:03.039 --> 01:23:06.199 in forever. And that's also what happened on that hike. 1562 01:23:06.399 --> 01:23:09.600 So I got to the top of the rock and 1563 01:23:09.640 --> 01:23:12.319 I set up my camera on me like recording while 1564 01:23:12.319 --> 01:23:15.520 I did a meditation, and I had the thought, like 1565 01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:18.079 I set up my tripod, had it fully extended. I 1566 01:23:18.119 --> 01:23:20.199 was like, this is probably a stupid idea, but I'm 1567 01:23:20.199 --> 01:23:24.600 going to do it. Anyways, did my meditation, and right 1568 01:23:24.640 --> 01:23:26.479 when I was wrapping up my meditation, I felt a 1569 01:23:26.479 --> 01:23:29.279 little gust of wind on my back and I like 1570 01:23:29.359 --> 01:23:31.920 wrapped up my meditation, turned around and saw my tripod 1571 01:23:31.960 --> 01:23:34.960 had blown over. But right when I did that, there 1572 01:23:35.039 --> 01:23:38.319 was an all black squirrel that I've never seen an 1573 01:23:38.359 --> 01:23:40.680 all black squirrel, But there was an all black squirrel 1574 01:23:40.840 --> 01:23:45.680 just like twelve feet away from me, and like I 1575 01:23:45.960 --> 01:23:49.199 rushed down. I found my phone and luckily my camera 1576 01:23:49.319 --> 01:23:51.319 wasn't broken. I was able to get a video of it, 1577 01:23:52.720 --> 01:23:57.439 and it made me remember back in twenty sixteen when 1578 01:23:57.439 --> 01:24:01.199 I separated from the Air Force. Three months afterwards, I 1579 01:24:01.279 --> 01:24:04.359 was at a park in Rapid City in South Dakota, 1580 01:24:04.399 --> 01:24:07.039 where I lived, and there was an albino squirrel there 1581 01:24:07.600 --> 01:24:12.720 that I photographed. So it just like flashed in my head, 1582 01:24:12.760 --> 01:24:14.520 like what the heck like of all the animals to 1583 01:24:14.560 --> 01:24:20.960 see albino and all black like a squirrel like right here? Yeah, 1584 01:24:21.239 --> 01:24:23.359 And then it was both times, just like a couple 1585 01:24:23.399 --> 01:24:27.439 months after like major changes in my life, like three 1586 01:24:27.439 --> 01:24:30.680 months after separating from the Air Force, and then I 1587 01:24:30.760 --> 01:24:33.359 just saw the all black squirrel. It was like almost 1588 01:24:33.399 --> 01:24:36.119 exactly four months after I quit my job and went 1589 01:24:36.159 --> 01:24:41.439 back to school full times. So it made me realize 1590 01:24:41.760 --> 01:24:44.640 like it was the changing of like a season, and 1591 01:24:44.720 --> 01:24:46.479 it seemed like it was like the ending of a 1592 01:24:46.520 --> 01:24:51.119 cycle in the starting of a news cycle. And it 1593 01:24:51.119 --> 01:24:53.640 also brought me to that message of duality like you 1594 01:24:53.680 --> 01:24:55.680 were talking about earlier, like the light in the dark 1595 01:24:55.800 --> 01:25:00.239 yin Yang, like the yeah. 1596 01:24:59.680 --> 01:25:02.840 Yeah, it's crazy how that stuff can just kind of 1597 01:25:02.880 --> 01:25:06.439 show up symbolically in your life. And you know that, 1598 01:25:06.680 --> 01:25:09.319 whether whether you see it in the form of synchronicity 1599 01:25:09.640 --> 01:25:13.000 or message or you know whatever from your guides or whatever. 1600 01:25:13.039 --> 01:25:16.840 It's like that shouldn't be happening in the world we 1601 01:25:16.960 --> 01:25:19.479 thought we knew when we were growing up, you know 1602 01:25:19.479 --> 01:25:22.520 what I'm saying, Like, if everything really is just physical 1603 01:25:22.600 --> 01:25:26.319 and material, then why is it that these things are 1604 01:25:26.520 --> 01:25:31.560 occurring at a mathematically impossible rate, you know, like and 1605 01:25:31.960 --> 01:25:34.760 it is is it just our consciousness that is connecting 1606 01:25:34.840 --> 01:25:37.600 to the rest of the one conscious or God or 1607 01:25:37.640 --> 01:25:39.399 source or whatever you want to call it, right, Like, 1608 01:25:39.760 --> 01:25:44.359 are we kind of integrating even farther into working congruently 1609 01:25:44.439 --> 01:25:50.560 alongside you know, whatever the rest of source is or 1610 01:25:50.840 --> 01:25:53.239 or God is or whatever. You know, it's almost like 1611 01:25:53.279 --> 01:25:55.840 getting into that flow state to where these things are 1612 01:25:55.880 --> 01:25:58.039 starting to happen a little bit more. And I almost wonder, 1613 01:25:58.840 --> 01:26:01.479 I used to wonder, I don't want anymore. I'd like 1614 01:26:01.720 --> 01:26:05.000 it did did these things used to? Is this a 1615 01:26:05.119 --> 01:26:08.159 new occurrence? You know, like or has this kind of 1616 01:26:08.159 --> 01:26:10.560 stuff been happening our whole lives? But we only just 1617 01:26:10.720 --> 01:26:13.279 now like kind of become privy to it once you 1618 01:26:13.279 --> 01:26:15.039 you know, raise your awareness a little bit, you know, 1619 01:26:15.119 --> 01:26:16.399 like have you ever thought something like that? 1620 01:26:17.359 --> 01:26:20.039 Yeah, I definitely think we get the blinders put on. 1621 01:26:20.279 --> 01:26:24.600 And it's not really our fault either. It's the way 1622 01:26:24.680 --> 01:26:27.960 society is structured right now. Like you're grow you grow up, 1623 01:26:27.960 --> 01:26:29.520 and you're told you have to get a job and 1624 01:26:29.560 --> 01:26:31.920 you have to do all these things, and that takes 1625 01:26:31.960 --> 01:26:35.600 away that childlike wonder that we have when we're little. 1626 01:26:36.359 --> 01:26:40.680 And like going back to the phenomenon too, like they 1627 01:26:40.800 --> 01:26:44.399 love when you act like a child and get excited 1628 01:26:44.439 --> 01:26:48.359 and like have that like curiosity and everything like that. 1629 01:26:48.479 --> 01:26:52.640 And that's something that I was missing in my life 1630 01:26:52.720 --> 01:26:56.760 that was basically beaten out of me throughout, like my 1631 01:26:56.920 --> 01:26:58.720 twenties and the start of my. 1632 01:26:58.720 --> 01:27:01.520 Thirties, loads of people missing out on that, dude, Like 1633 01:27:01.600 --> 01:27:03.800 you just see like people are just living in black 1634 01:27:03.840 --> 01:27:04.680 and white, you know. 1635 01:27:05.039 --> 01:27:10.039 Yeah. And it made me like stop and like realize 1636 01:27:10.399 --> 01:27:14.119 that I was missing that from my life and trying 1637 01:27:14.159 --> 01:27:19.920 to reintegrate and bring back in like that childlike wonder really, 1638 01:27:20.039 --> 01:27:24.239 And I think that's another reason why the phenomenon showing 1639 01:27:24.319 --> 01:27:26.880 up is like they're trying to help us remember who 1640 01:27:26.920 --> 01:27:30.760 we truly are, and we're not what society has created 1641 01:27:30.840 --> 01:27:34.520 right now, Like we're supposed to be out experiencing this 1642 01:27:34.640 --> 01:27:37.439 beautiful planet we're on, and we're all just stuck working 1643 01:27:37.680 --> 01:27:41.720 nine to five and under crushing debt where you're told 1644 01:27:41.760 --> 01:27:44.960 the American dream is to you know, rack up a 1645 01:27:44.960 --> 01:27:47.000 half million dollars in debt and work the rest of 1646 01:27:47.039 --> 01:27:51.560 your life. And I think people are realizing that that's 1647 01:27:51.600 --> 01:27:53.319 not the way that we're supposed to be living. 1648 01:27:54.119 --> 01:27:56.159 No, as a matter of fact, it's a it's a 1649 01:27:56.239 --> 01:27:59.560 quick way to die. I think. Yeah, you know, in 1650 01:27:59.600 --> 01:28:02.800 such a shame that you know, to to be on 1651 01:28:02.840 --> 01:28:05.199 the hamster whill your entire life and not even know 1652 01:28:05.239 --> 01:28:07.600 that you're on it, not even know that you can 1653 01:28:07.760 --> 01:28:10.800 get off, you know, because it's always just a state 1654 01:28:10.840 --> 01:28:14.479 of fear that well, what you know, if if I 1655 01:28:14.479 --> 01:28:16.600 if I quit my job that I hate but it 1656 01:28:16.640 --> 01:28:18.920 pays the bills, then my kids are gonna starve or 1657 01:28:18.960 --> 01:28:22.399 something along those lines. And so now you're almost working 1658 01:28:22.520 --> 01:28:26.880 out of fear, you know, you're working out of obligation. 1659 01:28:27.600 --> 01:28:30.720 And you know, if we only just and it's easier 1660 01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:33.239 said than done. Like I don't say any of these 1661 01:28:33.279 --> 01:28:36.159 things very lightly. Like I know what it's like to 1662 01:28:36.159 --> 01:28:38.640 to hustle and bustle and put my head down and 1663 01:28:38.680 --> 01:28:41.399 my feet in the dirt and and and really just grind. 1664 01:28:41.239 --> 01:28:44.800 I understand that life, you know, and and you do 1665 01:28:44.920 --> 01:28:46.960 have to do it for for a period of time, 1666 01:28:47.079 --> 01:28:49.159 but you have to have a goal in mind, Like 1667 01:28:49.199 --> 01:28:50.920 if you don't have that carrot at the end of 1668 01:28:50.960 --> 01:28:55.279 the stick, otherwise you're just trudging along and you're enslaving yourself, 1669 01:28:55.399 --> 01:28:58.039 is really what's going on? And and what better way 1670 01:28:58.119 --> 01:29:00.720 to pull your your your own self out of that 1671 01:29:01.399 --> 01:29:05.560 spiritual flow and out of that childlike wonder and curiosity 1672 01:29:05.640 --> 01:29:09.079 that whenever somebody does start talking about aliens and orbs 1673 01:29:09.159 --> 01:29:11.760 and light beings and shifting dimensions, and all these things. 1674 01:29:11.760 --> 01:29:14.840 You just look at them like you just don't get it. 1675 01:29:15.039 --> 01:29:18.199 I just go clock into work and it's like, man, 1676 01:29:18.319 --> 01:29:21.239 you are so caught into it, you know, and it's unfortunate, 1677 01:29:21.319 --> 01:29:24.279 but you don't really hold it up against anybody, you know, 1678 01:29:24.359 --> 01:29:26.920 because for the longest time, we thought that same exact way. 1679 01:29:27.039 --> 01:29:30.399 Yeah, I mean, that's how the planet's being run right now. 1680 01:29:30.439 --> 01:29:34.960 Like it's really hard to escape that, especially in like 1681 01:29:35.039 --> 01:29:38.680 Western society, where we're taught all these different things and 1682 01:29:38.720 --> 01:29:42.479 we're not really taught about like the like the rest 1683 01:29:42.479 --> 01:29:45.079 of the planet, like the East and everything. They still 1684 01:29:45.119 --> 01:29:48.279 believe that shamans are doing these things like connecting with 1685 01:29:48.359 --> 01:29:51.800 the spirit and bringing back knowledge and wisdom and doing 1686 01:29:51.840 --> 01:29:56.079 all these profound healing things that are helping the community. 1687 01:29:56.600 --> 01:29:58.399 And then over here in the West, we're like, no, 1688 01:29:58.520 --> 01:30:01.079 you need to go to the doctor and get pharmaceuticals 1689 01:30:01.119 --> 01:30:03.039 and take this pill for the rest of your life. 1690 01:30:03.119 --> 01:30:10.359 And oh yeah, and that's if I was brainwashed too. 1691 01:30:10.520 --> 01:30:15.640 Like it's so crazy how quickly they can change an 1692 01:30:15.800 --> 01:30:19.640 entire like belief around something like the fact that the 1693 01:30:19.640 --> 01:30:25.119 psych psychedelics were made illegal in what the sixties, and 1694 01:30:25.159 --> 01:30:28.640 then so our parents growing up with like the stigma 1695 01:30:28.720 --> 01:30:31.640 of yeah, these things are horrible, and then me going 1696 01:30:31.680 --> 01:30:34.479 through dare in school and this will melt your brain, 1697 01:30:34.600 --> 01:30:37.520 and like I believed all that stuff. It terrified me. 1698 01:30:37.600 --> 01:30:40.560 And then when I became an adult and I fucking 1699 01:30:40.760 --> 01:30:42.960 smoked pot for the first time, I was like, this, 1700 01:30:42.960 --> 01:30:45.159 this is what the big deal was about. And then 1701 01:30:46.079 --> 01:30:50.039 I had mushrooms and then like really blew my mind 1702 01:30:50.039 --> 01:30:54.560 open and realized, oh they're illegal because it would bring 1703 01:30:54.640 --> 01:30:58.399 us all together and realize that the way we're living 1704 01:30:58.439 --> 01:31:00.680 needs to change and we are all one and we 1705 01:31:00.760 --> 01:31:05.720 are all connected and it's not this material ego world 1706 01:31:05.760 --> 01:31:06.640 that we're living in. 1707 01:31:06.920 --> 01:31:09.840 Absolutely, dude, there's there's one thing is for sure. If 1708 01:31:09.880 --> 01:31:12.680 you have a healthy dose of mushrooms, that's the one 1709 01:31:12.760 --> 01:31:15.920 thing that will really show you like, oh, this is 1710 01:31:15.960 --> 01:31:18.920 a spiritual realm, you know what I mean. We just 1711 01:31:18.960 --> 01:31:21.960 get to like be here and experience it, you know. 1712 01:31:22.000 --> 01:31:26.600 And and going back to the the synchronicity conversation, I 1713 01:31:26.600 --> 01:31:30.840 feel like, may before you you notice these things, right, 1714 01:31:30.920 --> 01:31:34.239 like things were just happening, so they wouldn't necessarily even 1715 01:31:34.279 --> 01:31:37.079 be synchronicities because they would have no purpose, they would 1716 01:31:37.119 --> 01:31:39.800 have no and for you to notice it in the 1717 01:31:39.800 --> 01:31:42.560 first place. But then once you once you kind of 1718 01:31:42.560 --> 01:31:44.560 see the crack in the veil, and then all of 1719 01:31:44.600 --> 01:31:47.520 a sudden you feel this this higher calling as far 1720 01:31:47.560 --> 01:31:50.319 as like what can I do to help? You? Know, 1721 01:31:50.399 --> 01:31:53.399 you want to be able to help people, And and 1722 01:31:53.439 --> 01:31:55.680 then so now you have a purpose. You know, you've 1723 01:31:55.720 --> 01:32:00.600 given yourself a purpose. And so now you're literally able 1724 01:32:00.680 --> 01:32:05.000 to translate the language, so to speak, of the earth, 1725 01:32:05.359 --> 01:32:07.800 and it's co creating with you. I don't know if 1726 01:32:07.840 --> 01:32:09.479 you've ever read the book, but we read the book 1727 01:32:09.520 --> 01:32:13.520 The Alchemist, and if you haven't read that, give it 1728 01:32:13.600 --> 01:32:17.439 a read, because in that book he's talking about trying 1729 01:32:17.479 --> 01:32:21.560 to understand the language of the Earth. And the first 1730 01:32:21.600 --> 01:32:23.399 time we kind of went over that, I was like, 1731 01:32:23.600 --> 01:32:25.439 it was kind of a little bit confusing, you know, 1732 01:32:25.479 --> 01:32:28.119 But then you start to understand more things than you 1733 01:32:28.119 --> 01:32:31.640 talk about synchronicities and you see a cardinal or you 1734 01:32:31.800 --> 01:32:34.119 see some bug that's supposed to be good luck and 1735 01:32:34.119 --> 01:32:36.399 it's right above your door on a day that just 1736 01:32:36.439 --> 01:32:38.640 so happens to be a day that you're really hoping 1737 01:32:38.680 --> 01:32:42.279 everything goes well right, and so it's like the language 1738 01:32:42.279 --> 01:32:45.760 between you and the earth is totally unique. You know, 1739 01:32:45.920 --> 01:32:48.720 the language between you and everything around you is totally 1740 01:32:48.840 --> 01:32:53.079 unique to the language and how I would experience things 1741 01:32:53.119 --> 01:32:56.159 around me. And so whenever someone comes to you and says, well, 1742 01:32:56.159 --> 01:32:58.560 what does it mean when you see a cardinal, It's like, well, 1743 01:32:58.920 --> 01:33:01.600 just ask them what is it mean to you? You know, 1744 01:33:01.640 --> 01:33:02.760 because that's what matters. 1745 01:33:03.239 --> 01:33:08.199 So beautifully said sir, Yeah, I dude, Yeah, there's a 1746 01:33:09.199 --> 01:33:12.239 We're living in a magical realm. There's absolutely no doubt 1747 01:33:12.279 --> 01:33:14.720 about it. And you know, whether this is a training 1748 01:33:14.720 --> 01:33:17.960 wheels realm or if this is a realm for you know, 1749 01:33:18.039 --> 01:33:20.680 the spiritual gangsters that think that we can handle it. 1750 01:33:20.960 --> 01:33:23.479 Whatever the case may be, I'm here for it. It's 1751 01:33:23.520 --> 01:33:25.520 a fun time. I do want to ask you, though, 1752 01:33:25.800 --> 01:33:28.800 justin have you ever had a past life regression? 1753 01:33:29.760 --> 01:33:33.319 I am not so going back to that whole like 1754 01:33:34.720 --> 01:33:39.319 experience I had with not sharing abduction or whatever that happened. 1755 01:33:39.479 --> 01:33:42.119 I was like, do I want to like do a 1756 01:33:42.239 --> 01:33:45.439 hypnotic regression and possibly like open the can of worms, 1757 01:33:45.520 --> 01:33:48.399 or do I just kind of like what the experience be. 1758 01:33:49.359 --> 01:33:53.520 I am interested though, Like I am curious. I would 1759 01:33:53.600 --> 01:33:57.920 like to know like what happened or like past life regressions. 1760 01:33:57.960 --> 01:34:01.279 I'd love to know like what I've experienced as a 1761 01:34:01.600 --> 01:34:03.479 soul journey and through existence. 1762 01:34:04.079 --> 01:34:06.399 Well, because we live in a simulation, you just so 1763 01:34:06.520 --> 01:34:09.079 happen to be talking to somebody that's willing to give 1764 01:34:09.079 --> 01:34:11.520 you one for free, sir. I would just love to 1765 01:34:11.600 --> 01:34:14.159 give you a past life regression and see what is 1766 01:34:14.159 --> 01:34:15.960 going on. We don't necessarily have to go to a 1767 01:34:15.960 --> 01:34:19.520 specific place. We can keep it very whatever happens happens 1768 01:34:19.600 --> 01:34:22.279 kind of thing, dude. But I just you know, with 1769 01:34:22.399 --> 01:34:25.600 everything that you've been experiencing, you know, and and you 1770 01:34:25.600 --> 01:34:27.640 know I've I've given a past life regression to Sean, 1771 01:34:27.720 --> 01:34:29.840 I've given well, I've given a couple of them to Shawn. 1772 01:34:29.960 --> 01:34:32.920 I gave one to Electro Nick one time, and both 1773 01:34:33.319 --> 01:34:37.560 very very eye opening, you know. And and it makes 1774 01:34:37.640 --> 01:34:44.399 the things that seem difficult to understand like easily digestible, 1775 01:34:44.920 --> 01:34:46.800 you know. It is it breaks it down in such 1776 01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:52.960 a way to where you aren't necessarily questioning what you're experiencing. 1777 01:34:53.159 --> 01:34:59.199 You have more of an open open way of interpreting 1778 01:34:59.239 --> 01:35:01.880 whatever it is that you're seeing and experiencing and stuff 1779 01:35:01.920 --> 01:35:04.079 like that. Because what's great about it is is that 1780 01:35:04.439 --> 01:35:08.399 have you ever heard of a Dolores Cannon. Oh yeah, okay, 1781 01:35:08.479 --> 01:35:10.359 so that's the kind of past life aggression that I 1782 01:35:10.359 --> 01:35:12.479 do if if that's anything that you'd be interested in. 1783 01:35:12.520 --> 01:35:16.479 But yeah, okay, so she you know, she did the 1784 01:35:16.479 --> 01:35:18.720 past life regressions and stuff like that. But then right 1785 01:35:18.760 --> 01:35:22.560 after there's usually questions that you would have to ask 1786 01:35:22.680 --> 01:35:25.319 your higher self or your guides or whoever it is 1787 01:35:25.399 --> 01:35:29.119 that is kind of overseeing the life, that is, you know, 1788 01:35:29.199 --> 01:35:33.760 the physical embodiment of justin right, and so these are 1789 01:35:33.840 --> 01:35:36.960 questions that you don't think that you have access to, 1790 01:35:37.079 --> 01:35:38.399 but you want to try and put it in their 1791 01:35:38.439 --> 01:35:43.239 hands and kind of pull down information from that different perspective. 1792 01:35:43.680 --> 01:35:46.199 And every single time we do something like that, it 1793 01:35:46.359 --> 01:35:49.720 is like mind blowing how easily the answers come in, 1794 01:35:49.960 --> 01:35:52.880 like answers that you wouldn't in a million years think 1795 01:35:52.880 --> 01:35:56.520 that you would ever have access to, and they are 1796 01:35:56.640 --> 01:36:00.640 just so there, so easy, so amazing, And really that's 1797 01:36:00.640 --> 01:36:02.680 the best part of a past life regression is those 1798 01:36:02.800 --> 01:36:05.399 questions that you would ask after the past life regression. 1799 01:36:05.479 --> 01:36:07.279 So I would love to be able to hook you 1800 01:36:07.359 --> 01:36:09.319 up with one of those, just with all the crazy 1801 01:36:09.319 --> 01:36:10.479 stuff that you're experiencing. 1802 01:36:10.920 --> 01:36:12.199 Yeah, definitely, I would love to. 1803 01:36:12.600 --> 01:36:15.399 Yeah, ten out of ten would recommend sure. 1804 01:36:15.560 --> 01:36:18.640 In one of my regressions, I was literally an orb, 1805 01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:23.760 Like my purpose was to allow people to like have 1806 01:36:23.880 --> 01:36:26.760 people see me so that they would know that there's 1807 01:36:26.800 --> 01:36:29.960 something more so just like interesting stuff like that. Who 1808 01:36:29.960 --> 01:36:32.640 knows where you'll end up, you know, Yeah, but it's 1809 01:36:32.680 --> 01:36:34.039 gonna be interesting a great well. 1810 01:36:34.039 --> 01:36:37.199 And it's good to go in without a projection, like 1811 01:36:37.239 --> 01:36:40.640 don't go in with any preconceived notions or anything like that. 1812 01:36:40.760 --> 01:36:43.760 Almost like my favorite tarot card is the hanged Man. 1813 01:36:44.039 --> 01:36:47.640 Just go in there and let go. Whatever happens happens, like, 1814 01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:51.119 don't try and forecast it or don't try and think, oh, 1815 01:36:51.159 --> 01:36:53.079 this is what's going to happen. If you go into 1816 01:36:53.079 --> 01:36:55.760 it completely open minded, that is the best way to 1817 01:36:55.760 --> 01:36:59.600 have your mind blown every single time. And and I've 1818 01:36:59.600 --> 01:37:03.279 been I've been pushing it off, but I'm getting it 1819 01:37:03.319 --> 01:37:07.479 set up to where in January. The guy that convinced 1820 01:37:07.479 --> 01:37:10.680 me to learn past live regressions, his name's John mcclucky's 1821 01:37:10.680 --> 01:37:13.960 out of Australia. He was one of the very first 1822 01:37:14.199 --> 01:37:16.680 I think he actually was the very first person I 1823 01:37:16.840 --> 01:37:21.880 ever interviewed on any podcast ever and he because I 1824 01:37:21.920 --> 01:37:24.680 was so fascinated with the whole idea of in concept 1825 01:37:24.720 --> 01:37:27.399 of past life regressions and stuff, and I kept on 1826 01:37:27.439 --> 01:37:29.359 having them on and I was always having these questions 1827 01:37:29.439 --> 01:37:31.720 and everything, and he was like, dude, fucking just do 1828 01:37:31.840 --> 01:37:34.479 the school like you seem so interested, and why don't 1829 01:37:34.520 --> 01:37:37.359 you just do it? And I was like, all right, 1830 01:37:37.439 --> 01:37:40.880 I'm gonna do it. You know, say less if you 1831 01:37:40.880 --> 01:37:42.319 think that I can do it, I'm gonna do it then. 1832 01:37:42.560 --> 01:37:43.880 And so I did it, and I went through the 1833 01:37:43.920 --> 01:37:47.199 whole schooling and everything. Unfortunately, I did it after Dolores 1834 01:37:47.239 --> 01:37:51.319 Cannon had already died, so that's fine. I mean, the dude, 1835 01:37:51.319 --> 01:37:54.079 the schooling was so amazing because you get to see 1836 01:37:54.119 --> 01:37:55.920 like or I was able to see like a bunch 1837 01:37:56.000 --> 01:37:59.079 of never before seeing videos of Dolores Cannon talking and 1838 01:37:59.119 --> 01:38:03.680 teaching about, you know, how to to really to hone 1839 01:38:03.720 --> 01:38:06.119 in on past life aggressions and stuff like that. And 1840 01:38:06.159 --> 01:38:09.319 I think that that is the best form of hypnosis 1841 01:38:09.319 --> 01:38:11.359 out there, because you've got a bunch of different hypnosis 1842 01:38:11.399 --> 01:38:15.119 forms like quit smoking or quit drinking or whatever, but 1843 01:38:15.560 --> 01:38:17.439 to be able to go in and see a past 1844 01:38:17.479 --> 01:38:20.159 life and then ask questions to your higher self and 1845 01:38:20.199 --> 01:38:23.359 it's it's it's nothing crazy. If you've never been hypnotized, 1846 01:38:23.399 --> 01:38:26.520 it is very much like a guided meditation, like if 1847 01:38:26.520 --> 01:38:29.760 you've ever done a guided meditation, this is basically what 1848 01:38:29.840 --> 01:38:34.279 it is. It's it's just that it's more specific to you, 1849 01:38:34.279 --> 01:38:36.399 you know, So it's it's really cool. But yeah, if 1850 01:38:36.399 --> 01:38:37.800 you're open to that, I would love to give you one. 1851 01:38:37.840 --> 01:38:39.640 Dude, Yeah for sure, I'm down. 1852 01:38:40.399 --> 01:38:43.920 Hell yeah, dude. So this is and I do want 1853 01:38:43.960 --> 01:38:45.760 to say to everybody else out there that is interested 1854 01:38:45.800 --> 01:38:48.279 in a past life regression. If you are interested in that, 1855 01:38:48.520 --> 01:38:51.720 reach out to me at metamistics at yahoo dot com. 1856 01:38:51.880 --> 01:38:55.800 I'm going to start doing the past life regressions probably 1857 01:38:55.840 --> 01:38:59.720 around mid January, and and I actually have a deal 1858 01:38:59.800 --> 01:39:01.800 out there to where if anybody wants to have a 1859 01:39:01.800 --> 01:39:05.880 past life regression and you want the the the hypnosis 1860 01:39:05.880 --> 01:39:10.600 regression to be put up on like as an episode, 1861 01:39:10.800 --> 01:39:12.960 because that's what we we would like to start getting 1862 01:39:13.000 --> 01:39:15.840 back into that again releasing it as an episode, then 1863 01:39:15.840 --> 01:39:18.800 I'll give you a discount. And just because I just 1864 01:39:18.880 --> 01:39:22.239 think that sometimes these things are they're they're specific to you, 1865 01:39:22.319 --> 01:39:24.560 and you know, obviously if there's something that you don't 1866 01:39:24.600 --> 01:39:26.680 want out there or whatever. Then you know, we'll edit 1867 01:39:26.720 --> 01:39:28.239 it out or we won't even have to put it up. 1868 01:39:28.239 --> 01:39:31.359 It's entirely up to you or and everybody else. But 1869 01:39:32.000 --> 01:39:34.159 you know, this kind of stuff is just too damn 1870 01:39:34.199 --> 01:39:37.199 mind boggling just to hoard to ourselves, you know, Like 1871 01:39:37.479 --> 01:39:41.119 that's my favorite part about it. But yeah, dude, anyway, 1872 01:39:41.560 --> 01:39:44.359 I do have Oh you had mentioned this is the 1873 01:39:44.439 --> 01:39:47.600 last question, but you had mentioned something about events. Can 1874 01:39:47.680 --> 01:39:49.359 you tell us a little bit about these events that 1875 01:39:49.399 --> 01:39:52.439 you're kind of getting together, Like how does that all work? 1876 01:39:53.239 --> 01:39:59.119 Yeah, so it kind of just manifested itself, honestly. So 1877 01:39:59.520 --> 01:40:03.840 on TikTok, I was in communication with someone who was 1878 01:40:03.880 --> 01:40:07.760 in Colorado and they were talking about inviting me out 1879 01:40:07.800 --> 01:40:13.079 to their ranch to like SkyWatch, and so we were 1880 01:40:13.079 --> 01:40:16.079 talking for a while and then we kind of just 1881 01:40:16.119 --> 01:40:18.800 like stopped messaging, and then like a year later, they 1882 01:40:18.840 --> 01:40:20.880 messaged me again and they're like, hey, would you be 1883 01:40:21.039 --> 01:40:24.359 interested in doing an event out at their ranch? And 1884 01:40:24.399 --> 01:40:27.640 they live out in None, Colorado. It's about forty five 1885 01:40:27.640 --> 01:40:30.840 minutes from where I'm at in Loveland, and it's out 1886 01:40:30.840 --> 01:40:33.119 in the middle of nowhere, Like they have an eighty 1887 01:40:33.159 --> 01:40:38.520 eight acre, like farm ranch, so it's just completely wide open. 1888 01:40:40.560 --> 01:40:44.520 There's no like hardly any light pollution anything like that. 1889 01:40:45.399 --> 01:40:49.840 And I was like, yeah, I'm definitely down. So I 1890 01:40:49.880 --> 01:40:52.720 didn't have to like book an event or anything. She's like, Okay, 1891 01:40:52.760 --> 01:40:55.119 we'll do it this date. At this time, I was like, cool, 1892 01:40:55.680 --> 01:40:58.079 I just got to show up. So that was how 1893 01:40:58.119 --> 01:41:03.680 my first event happened. And so the first one we had, 1894 01:41:03.720 --> 01:41:07.840 the weather was so terrible, like it was thunderstorms. We 1895 01:41:07.880 --> 01:41:10.920 set up, tried to do a meditation outside. The wind 1896 01:41:10.960 --> 01:41:14.039 actually blew my camera over on my tripod, and like 1897 01:41:14.159 --> 01:41:17.560 we had to seek shelter and it was raining, and 1898 01:41:17.600 --> 01:41:21.119 then the sky's finally cleared up, I think at ten PM, 1899 01:41:21.880 --> 01:41:24.000 and that's when I was able to like record that 1900 01:41:24.079 --> 01:41:27.159 like flash of like once you see it, you're forever changed. 1901 01:41:27.239 --> 01:41:31.000 And like I've recorded a huge like shooting star that 1902 01:41:31.039 --> 01:41:33.920 streaked through the middle of the frame and all kinds 1903 01:41:33.960 --> 01:41:38.279 of other orbs, and you know, that like kind of 1904 01:41:38.279 --> 01:41:42.279 resparked my like like interest and wanted me to get 1905 01:41:42.319 --> 01:41:45.159 out because I've been skywashing for two years now and 1906 01:41:45.199 --> 01:41:47.680 it's kind of hard to motivate yourself to keep going 1907 01:41:47.760 --> 01:41:50.359 out night after night, especially in the wintertime when it's 1908 01:41:50.479 --> 01:41:56.000 freezing out there. But yeah, so I went there, had 1909 01:41:56.000 --> 01:41:58.880 that first experience, and then they had such a great 1910 01:41:58.880 --> 01:42:00.840 time that they're like, we want to do another one. 1911 01:42:01.000 --> 01:42:04.560 So a month later we did another one, and yet 1912 01:42:04.560 --> 01:42:09.079 again the weather was absolutely terrible. Completely sky was filled 1913 01:42:09.079 --> 01:42:12.000 with clouds, couldn't see anything except for one little spot 1914 01:42:12.039 --> 01:42:15.359 on the horizon. And this is one of my videos too. 1915 01:42:15.920 --> 01:42:20.479 I recorded like a parade of huge orbs, like just 1916 01:42:20.479 --> 01:42:26.600 for thirty five minutes straight flying from the horizon, and yeah, 1917 01:42:26.680 --> 01:42:28.359 that blew my mind. That was like the one of 1918 01:42:28.439 --> 01:42:32.159 the craziest things I've ever seen. And then we had 1919 01:42:32.159 --> 01:42:36.600 our third event just in Wow, what was that in October? 1920 01:42:37.600 --> 01:42:41.119 And yet again, just every time we have an event, 1921 01:42:41.159 --> 01:42:45.000 it seems to be just some of the craziest things 1922 01:42:45.039 --> 01:42:47.640 I've ever witnessed and recorded. So I think it's just 1923 01:42:47.720 --> 01:42:52.119 the energy of people all focusing their attention. And then 1924 01:42:52.199 --> 01:42:54.520 I also just try to tell everyone, like to send 1925 01:42:54.520 --> 01:42:58.319 out love and be open and like, you know, we're 1926 01:42:58.359 --> 01:43:01.520 trying to connect and not be in fear and stuff 1927 01:43:01.560 --> 01:43:04.880 like that. And I think just setting the right intentions 1928 01:43:04.920 --> 01:43:09.520 and we just have amazing things happen. But we're gonna 1929 01:43:09.560 --> 01:43:12.479 plan on doing more events starting in the springtime when 1930 01:43:12.520 --> 01:43:17.359 it warms up again. So yeah, next year, well we'll 1931 01:43:17.399 --> 01:43:18.600 be doing more events out there. 1932 01:43:19.159 --> 01:43:22.159 Oh yeah, and that's out in Colorado, you said, right, yep, 1933 01:43:23.039 --> 01:43:24.199 damn might have to make a trip. 1934 01:43:24.239 --> 01:43:30.560 Sean's so that far away, dude, Like im in Arizona, Arizona. 1935 01:43:30.680 --> 01:43:34.720 Yeah, it's not too far, yeah, dude. So whenever you're 1936 01:43:34.760 --> 01:43:37.760 talking about, like you're able to see these things in 1937 01:43:38.000 --> 01:43:41.960 basically overcast sky, overcast kind of sky, but then there's 1938 01:43:42.119 --> 01:43:44.600 usually some kind of open area and you're able to 1939 01:43:44.640 --> 01:43:47.800 see like some kind of parade of activity that is 1940 01:43:47.840 --> 01:43:50.880 going on. Is that visible to the naked eye or 1941 01:43:50.960 --> 01:43:52.720 is it mainly through the camera. 1942 01:43:53.000 --> 01:43:55.920 That was visible to naked eye? And it started out 1943 01:43:55.960 --> 01:43:59.760 as like so we were just all a chit chat 1944 01:43:59.880 --> 01:44:04.279 and since the weather was not like ideal, and I 1945 01:44:04.319 --> 01:44:06.840 was looking out toward the horizon and I saw just 1946 01:44:06.880 --> 01:44:09.600 like this orange fireball like kind of like show up 1947 01:44:09.640 --> 01:44:12.159 and then it faded out. I was like, dang, I 1948 01:44:12.199 --> 01:44:14.560 wish I had my camera pointed over there. So I 1949 01:44:14.600 --> 01:44:18.079 went over there, repointed my camera and let everyone else know. 1950 01:44:18.600 --> 01:44:20.960 Because we had like ten people there that like in 1951 01:44:21.000 --> 01:44:23.000 each event We've had at least ten people who have 1952 01:44:23.159 --> 01:44:26.119 witnessed all these things too, so it's not just my 1953 01:44:26.279 --> 01:44:30.239 word for all this or my video evidence. So I 1954 01:44:30.319 --> 01:44:32.880 repointed over there, and I was just like, man, I 1955 01:44:32.880 --> 01:44:36.439 hope like it shows up again, and then just boom 1956 01:44:36.840 --> 01:44:40.439 for thirty five minutes straight, just NonStop like flying and 1957 01:44:40.560 --> 01:44:43.880 getting huge, massive power ups, and they were coming like 1958 01:44:44.039 --> 01:44:49.319 down all different directions, and the direction it was coming from, 1959 01:44:49.399 --> 01:44:54.159 I originally thought it was pointing towards like out towards Cheyenne. 1960 01:44:55.079 --> 01:44:57.600 So I actually just drove to South Cote over Thanksgiving 1961 01:44:57.640 --> 01:45:00.680 break and I realized it was way close than I 1962 01:45:00.680 --> 01:45:04.039 thought it was, So it was probably I think it 1963 01:45:04.119 --> 01:45:07.640 was around like car Colorado, which is maybe like ten 1964 01:45:07.720 --> 01:45:11.439 miles away from where we were at, and there's nothing 1965 01:45:11.479 --> 01:45:15.479 out there, like there's nothing, but yeah, if you check 1966 01:45:15.520 --> 01:45:18.439 out my parade video, I posted the whole like thirty 1967 01:45:18.479 --> 01:45:21.600 five minutes on there. I have sped up equips. I've 1968 01:45:21.680 --> 01:45:27.560 had AI analyze the video, and the explanations they could 1969 01:45:27.560 --> 01:45:30.920 come up with were like a drone swarm, which didn't 1970 01:45:30.960 --> 01:45:32.800 make any sense because they were just like going up 1971 01:45:32.880 --> 01:45:38.279 and then fading and then like military flares. But flayers 1972 01:45:38.439 --> 01:45:42.000 descend down from the sky. They don't ascend upwards. And 1973 01:45:42.560 --> 01:45:46.640 then it was saying, like maybe some military exercise, So 1974 01:45:46.720 --> 01:45:47.520 I looked that up. 1975 01:45:47.600 --> 01:45:49.520 It's always the military exercise, dude. 1976 01:45:49.680 --> 01:45:56.039 Yeah, there was no exercise during that time. Yeah, they 1977 01:45:56.039 --> 01:45:58.319 did have an exercise like a couple of days before, 1978 01:45:58.960 --> 01:46:01.680 but that wrapped up on the eighteenth, and that was 1979 01:46:01.720 --> 01:46:05.000 on the twentieth, and like I was in there for us, 1980 01:46:05.000 --> 01:46:08.920 like usually exercises don't go past the end date. And 1981 01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:13.239 then yeah, like I don't know what to make of it. 1982 01:46:13.239 --> 01:46:17.359 It was crazy, And I actually like did an interview 1983 01:46:17.399 --> 01:46:20.199 with one of the guys, the owners of the ranch 1984 01:46:20.279 --> 01:46:23.720 actually and had him describe what he saw because he 1985 01:46:23.760 --> 01:46:27.359 was looking through the night vision binoculars, him and my friend, 1986 01:46:27.439 --> 01:46:31.000 and they both described that they saw like triangles like 1987 01:46:31.079 --> 01:46:34.520 spinning and like branching off in different directions and all 1988 01:46:34.600 --> 01:46:39.159 kinds of crazy things that I've never seen before. 1989 01:46:39.439 --> 01:46:43.119 And these are happening past twilight time, Like the sun 1990 01:46:43.239 --> 01:46:46.159 is not just now going down, it is hours after that. 1991 01:46:46.920 --> 01:46:48.319 Yeah, that was at ten thirty. 1992 01:46:49.439 --> 01:46:52.000 Okay, yeah, like how do you? 1993 01:46:52.239 --> 01:46:56.199 And then there was another weird thing that happened in 1994 01:46:56.239 --> 01:47:00.520 that same area the following morning at one am. Apparently 1995 01:47:00.560 --> 01:47:04.039 there was like a train fire in the same location 1996 01:47:04.720 --> 01:47:08.159 ish of where that was, but this happened at ten thirty, 1997 01:47:08.399 --> 01:47:10.279 So I was like, was there really a fire or 1998 01:47:10.279 --> 01:47:13.239 are they like covering something up, because that's really strange 1999 01:47:13.439 --> 01:47:17.119 that that would happen the same nonetheless, Yeah. 2000 01:47:17.359 --> 01:47:19.960 Yeah, yeah, this guy's just going to start raining down 2001 01:47:20.039 --> 01:47:22.680 boga spears everywhere now, dude, it's just gonna get weird. 2002 01:47:23.319 --> 01:47:25.159 I'm here for it. 2003 01:47:25.439 --> 01:47:27.920 Yeah yeah, just lay one in the bread basket. I'll 2004 01:47:27.960 --> 01:47:32.720 catch it, you know what I mean. Like, so, Sean, 2005 01:47:33.039 --> 01:47:36.399 we have a tarot card here, sir, and. 2006 01:47:36.600 --> 01:47:39.000 I actually pulled two cards and I don't do that 2007 01:47:39.119 --> 01:47:41.159 all the time, but you know what, it's just, you know, 2008 01:47:41.279 --> 01:47:45.000 the moment struck me. So we got the full card 2009 01:47:45.359 --> 01:47:52.119 and the six of Pentacles, the full. It's perfect. I mean, 2010 01:47:52.119 --> 01:47:53.520 we had a full moon tonight. I don't know if 2011 01:47:53.560 --> 01:47:55.520 you guys know that, but it's a legit full moon 2012 01:47:55.640 --> 01:47:59.439 right now, so the end of a cycle, and then 2013 01:47:59.520 --> 01:48:01.720 of course after the end of the cycle, because you know, 2014 01:48:01.720 --> 01:48:02.960 you get the beginning of a cycle. 2015 01:48:03.039 --> 01:48:06.560 So yeah, I was hearing something earlier about how this 2016 01:48:06.920 --> 01:48:09.439 type of full moon is like a once in a 2017 01:48:09.520 --> 01:48:12.680 lifetime full moon, and I don't know what the name 2018 01:48:12.720 --> 01:48:15.159 of it was, but I saw that it only happens like, 2019 01:48:16.079 --> 01:48:18.640 I don't even know, like once every thousand years or 2020 01:48:18.680 --> 01:48:21.000 something crazy like this specific type. 2021 01:48:21.359 --> 01:48:25.239 Along with the just the other planetary alignments as well, 2022 01:48:25.359 --> 01:48:26.960 I mean, because we get a full moon every month, 2023 01:48:27.039 --> 01:48:27.239 you know. 2024 01:48:27.439 --> 01:48:30.159 So yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I'm not sure I 2025 01:48:30.159 --> 01:48:32.079 need to. I just saw it and I didn't read 2026 01:48:32.079 --> 01:48:33.720 into it, you know. It's kind of a lazy moment 2027 01:48:33.760 --> 01:48:39.680 for me, but whatever, but whatever. But anyhow, the Full card, 2028 01:48:39.760 --> 01:48:42.319 so the Full embarks on a new journey, leaving the 2029 01:48:42.359 --> 01:48:45.199 past behind, carrying with him only the lessons learned and 2030 01:48:45.239 --> 01:48:49.560 a curiosity to begin again. Each card carries the energy 2031 01:48:49.600 --> 01:48:51.960 of the ones that come before it, beginning with the Full, 2032 01:48:52.000 --> 01:48:55.039 who carries the energy of the zero, a symbol that 2033 01:48:55.079 --> 01:48:58.760 contains everything and nothing at the same time. The Full 2034 01:48:58.840 --> 01:49:01.600 progresses through the less and events shown by each card 2035 01:49:01.600 --> 01:49:05.359 of the major arcana, growing, experiencing and maturing as his 2036 01:49:05.439 --> 01:49:08.479 consciousness evolves. In the imagery on the Fool's card, you 2037 01:49:08.520 --> 01:49:12.039 see a young person in a floral print tunic. The 2038 01:49:12.079 --> 01:49:14.359 fol looks to the bright yellow sky with the sun 2039 01:49:14.399 --> 01:49:16.640 to his back. And blissfully unaware that he is about 2040 01:49:16.640 --> 01:49:19.920 to walk off of a cliff, carrying only a bindle 2041 01:49:20.039 --> 01:49:22.720 and a white rose. He is innocent and free of 2042 01:49:22.800 --> 01:49:25.479 life's burdens. He's ready to take on whatever may come 2043 01:49:25.520 --> 01:49:28.479 his way, with his arms outstretched, suggesting openness to new 2044 01:49:28.520 --> 01:49:33.279 possibilities without fear of failure. A small dog Prance is 2045 01:49:33.279 --> 01:49:36.159 alongside the full, attempting to alert him of the dangerous 2046 01:49:36.199 --> 01:49:38.880 cliff he is headed toward. This is the path of 2047 01:49:39.079 --> 01:49:43.159 unfolding consciousness, a symbol of the fools of the fool's 2048 01:49:43.159 --> 01:49:46.600 willingness to meet life's challenges in order to make progress. 2049 01:49:47.840 --> 01:49:48.960 Very symbolic card. 2050 01:49:48.760 --> 01:49:51.239 Here, dude, man, I mean you quit your job, you 2051 01:49:51.319 --> 01:49:55.640 started pull You're you know, getting into nature more. You're 2052 01:49:55.680 --> 01:49:58.239 seeing orbs. I mean this card has an ORB and 2053 01:49:58.279 --> 01:50:00.479 he's not even looking at it. You know, you know 2054 01:50:00.560 --> 01:50:02.800 it's there yet. So there's that. 2055 01:50:03.319 --> 01:50:06.720 Damn Yeah, I didn't think about that. So the spiritual 2056 01:50:06.800 --> 01:50:09.439 interpretation it says, take a leap of faith and trust 2057 01:50:09.439 --> 01:50:12.680 that you have the support of the universe. Don't be 2058 01:50:12.720 --> 01:50:15.960 afraid of the unknown. Instead, acknowledge that the lessons you 2059 01:50:16.079 --> 01:50:21.000 encounter will lead to expanded consciousness and unforeseen opportunities. They 2060 01:50:21.000 --> 01:50:24.199 are a part of your personal and spiritual evolution. One 2061 01:50:24.199 --> 01:50:25.520 of my favorite cards of all time. 2062 01:50:26.680 --> 01:50:29.880 It's perfect. I mean, going back to the synchronicities that 2063 01:50:29.920 --> 01:50:31.800 you didn't even know were there. It's like once you 2064 01:50:31.840 --> 01:50:34.800 have your purpose and then the universe just kind of 2065 01:50:34.840 --> 01:50:38.359 starts showing you things because you're looking for them. Yeah, 2066 01:50:38.600 --> 01:50:41.920 just shifting your awareness. It's like it's magic in itself 2067 01:50:42.800 --> 01:50:43.359 about it. Yeah. 2068 01:50:43.399 --> 01:50:46.720 Well, and that just speaks to that that childlike imagination 2069 01:50:46.960 --> 01:50:49.239 that you were talking about a little bit before. You know, 2070 01:50:49.279 --> 01:50:52.279 we were talking about everything's basically black and white and 2071 01:50:52.439 --> 01:50:55.399 you know, materialistic and just going through the grind every day, 2072 01:50:55.439 --> 01:50:58.640 and I mean the full don't look at life like that, 2073 01:50:58.760 --> 01:51:01.520 you know. And what was the you said? It was 2074 01:51:01.560 --> 01:51:06.159 the six of pentacless all right, So and typically we 2075 01:51:06.159 --> 01:51:08.880 don't we don't read too but Sean just felt the 2076 01:51:09.760 --> 01:51:12.800 just you know, felt the call there. We don't, we 2077 01:51:12.800 --> 01:51:15.119 don't question the message. We just roll with it. So 2078 01:51:15.479 --> 01:51:18.960 these six of Pentacles, giving and receiving opens the flow 2079 01:51:19.000 --> 01:51:22.159 of prosperity in your life. Always give what you would 2080 01:51:22.239 --> 01:51:25.399 like to receive. It says you are met with generosity 2081 01:51:25.600 --> 01:51:29.279 and and even exchange when you draw the six of pentacles. 2082 01:51:29.479 --> 01:51:31.920 In this card, a wealthy man offers coins to people 2083 01:51:31.920 --> 01:51:35.279 who are kneeling before him. His body position is above theirs, 2084 01:51:35.359 --> 01:51:37.119 yet he holds a scale in his hand as a 2085 01:51:37.159 --> 01:51:40.399 reminder that equality is important, as is sharing what you 2086 01:51:40.520 --> 01:51:43.119 have with those who have less. This card is as 2087 01:51:43.199 --> 01:51:46.840 much about giving generously as it is about receiving graciously. 2088 01:51:47.279 --> 01:51:50.760 Altruistic and genuine acts of support are the hallmarks of 2089 01:51:50.800 --> 01:51:54.880 this card. Receiving graciously graciously. That just reminds me of 2090 01:51:54.960 --> 01:51:57.399 like what you were saying about whenever you go outside 2091 01:51:57.479 --> 01:52:00.439 and you're like, look, I'm not expecting any thing, but 2092 01:52:00.520 --> 01:52:02.640 if you would, that would be that'd be pretty sweet. 2093 01:52:02.840 --> 01:52:06.119 You know, yeah, yeah, that's that's amazing. 2094 01:52:06.600 --> 01:52:10.439 The spiritual aspect of this card, it says an inheritance 2095 01:52:10.560 --> 01:52:13.600 or unexpected gift is coming to you, or you are 2096 01:52:13.600 --> 01:52:17.359 considering donating it to uh, you are considering donating to 2097 01:52:17.439 --> 01:52:20.800 charity or someone in need. Consider passing along items from 2098 01:52:20.800 --> 01:52:23.560 your closet or or home to those in need, since 2099 01:52:23.600 --> 01:52:27.079 doing so will create space to receive from other sources. 2100 01:52:27.800 --> 01:52:31.640 Solid requestions go. That's a great combination of cards for 2101 01:52:31.680 --> 01:52:32.319 this episode. 2102 01:52:32.680 --> 01:52:35.800 Great one for like Christmas time too, Like definitely get 2103 01:52:35.840 --> 01:52:38.720 out there and like share the wealth. 2104 01:52:39.000 --> 01:52:42.600 Exactly, dude. And the more you bring up your your 2105 01:52:42.720 --> 01:52:46.000 your empathy and everything else, like if you can just 2106 01:52:46.680 --> 01:52:50.159 understand what someone's going through, like put yourself really in 2107 01:52:50.279 --> 01:52:53.479 their shoes, and then you can almost imagine what that 2108 01:52:53.560 --> 01:52:56.960 person needs in that moment, like what what what level 2109 01:52:57.039 --> 01:53:01.159 of service or or even just a random active kindness, 2110 01:53:01.399 --> 01:53:04.840 you know, in passing, Like so many of those little 2111 01:53:04.840 --> 01:53:07.560 things can go so far, you know, but we get 2112 01:53:07.560 --> 01:53:10.239 so caught up in our ego and our I gotta 2113 01:53:10.279 --> 01:53:12.880 get to work because I'm running late, and just the bullshit, 2114 01:53:13.039 --> 01:53:15.560 you know, stupid shit that we worry about all the time. 2115 01:53:15.600 --> 01:53:18.720 Like let's let's slow down, you know and see the 2116 01:53:18.760 --> 01:53:20.680 space in between the notes and kind of just be 2117 01:53:20.760 --> 01:53:24.439 here right now, you know, be right here, right so simple, dude, 2118 01:53:24.520 --> 01:53:26.520 right up in here. Yeah. 2119 01:53:26.560 --> 01:53:29.720 Well, and speaking of receiving graciously, we do want to 2120 01:53:29.760 --> 01:53:31.600 say thank you so much for coming on the show 2121 01:53:31.600 --> 01:53:34.600 and sharing your experience here justin that was awesome to 2122 01:53:35.000 --> 01:53:37.039 get to know you and hear some of your stories. 2123 01:53:37.119 --> 01:53:40.159 And you know, look, some people are gonna look at 2124 01:53:40.199 --> 01:53:41.960 you like you're a koop and you're a whack job. 2125 01:53:42.279 --> 01:53:44.199 I wear it as a badge of honor, you know, 2126 01:53:44.439 --> 01:53:47.760 like it. Look, if you're not creating some waves, in 2127 01:53:47.800 --> 01:53:50.760 a little bit of ruffles into the society and into 2128 01:53:50.800 --> 01:53:53.680 the consciousness of those around you, what are you doing? 2129 01:53:53.960 --> 01:53:55.439 You know what I mean? Like, that's what we're here 2130 01:53:55.439 --> 01:53:58.439 to do, is just to not necessarily create a disturbance, 2131 01:53:58.520 --> 01:54:01.119 but just to create a little rich that would cause 2132 01:54:01.680 --> 01:54:05.159 somebody out there to just become curious. That's the whole point, 2133 01:54:05.319 --> 01:54:08.560 you know. So if you would, could you let our 2134 01:54:08.640 --> 01:54:10.680 listeners we call them the one could you let them 2135 01:54:10.720 --> 01:54:13.159 know where they could find your good work, sir. 2136 01:54:13.720 --> 01:54:16.319 Yeah, definitely. Well, first, thank you so much for having 2137 01:54:16.319 --> 01:54:19.000 me on. This is a lot of fun. But you 2138 01:54:19.039 --> 01:54:25.399 can find all of my content on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, 2139 01:54:25.640 --> 01:54:29.399 I'm on Facebook, I'm on x, I'm lights over loveling 2140 01:54:29.520 --> 01:54:33.840 on everything except for X is loveling lights And actually 2141 01:54:33.920 --> 01:54:38.479 today I just created a Patreon and Discord server, So 2142 01:54:39.079 --> 01:54:41.800 if you'd like to join my discord, it's completely free, 2143 01:54:41.880 --> 01:54:44.319 and I'm just trying to create a community of people 2144 01:54:44.359 --> 01:54:47.760 who are open and curious and really just want to 2145 01:54:47.800 --> 01:54:51.239 like research into what's going on and you know, put 2146 01:54:51.279 --> 01:54:54.159 stigma aside and just like look at the evidence and 2147 01:54:54.359 --> 01:54:57.439 analyze what we're seeing and recording the skies. 2148 01:54:58.279 --> 01:55:01.119 Oh yeah, so much for for your time, dude. And 2149 01:55:01.399 --> 01:55:03.239 I just really enjoyed the way that you're looking at 2150 01:55:03.239 --> 01:55:05.920 things and kind of just branching out and really trying 2151 01:55:05.920 --> 01:55:07.880 to get people together. And it's a beautiful thing. Man. 2152 01:55:07.880 --> 01:55:08.560 I appreciate you. 2153 01:55:09.000 --> 01:55:13.640 Thank you, Yeah, dude, Nicholas An any last thoughts for you, sir? 2154 01:55:14.680 --> 01:55:16.119 No. I enjoyed it. 2155 01:55:16.159 --> 01:55:18.199 I'm glad there's more of us out there. 2156 01:55:18.399 --> 01:55:19.039 It's amazing. 2157 01:55:20.800 --> 01:55:23.720 I don't think we've seen anything yet, so I think 2158 01:55:24.239 --> 01:55:27.079 it's gonna be a fun next few years. 2159 01:55:27.159 --> 01:55:28.800 So keep them eyes up. 2160 01:55:29.439 --> 01:55:32.119 Yeah, well, the best is yet to come, as they say. 2161 01:55:32.199 --> 01:55:34.720 But for any of those that maybe they are just 2162 01:55:34.800 --> 01:55:38.079 now hearing you and looking at your beautiful, luscious locks, 2163 01:55:38.119 --> 01:55:40.760 Nicholas for the very first time, how would they reach 2164 01:55:40.760 --> 01:55:41.319 out to you? 2165 01:55:42.640 --> 01:55:47.199 The Collective Perspective dot podcast on Instagram and that's got 2166 01:55:47.199 --> 01:55:49.039 the link tree to everything else. 2167 01:55:49.720 --> 01:55:50.199 Awesome. 2168 01:55:51.359 --> 01:55:53.399 Yes, and look, we do want to make an announce 2169 01:55:53.439 --> 01:55:54.479 Do we want to make an announcement? 2170 01:55:54.560 --> 01:55:55.319 Nicholas? 2171 01:55:56.159 --> 01:56:01.039 We can, Yeah, so I guess come January, right, the 2172 01:56:01.039 --> 01:56:04.920 the plan is for me to be doing a weekly 2173 01:56:05.359 --> 01:56:12.119 collective Perspective episode feature on metamistics moving forward. 2174 01:56:11.840 --> 01:56:16.600 So excited for that and look out awesome dude. Yeah, 2175 01:56:16.600 --> 01:56:18.159 I feel like it was always meant to happen. 2176 01:56:18.319 --> 01:56:21.560 Yeah, I know it is happening, Like this conversation and 2177 01:56:21.760 --> 01:56:24.399 the people that we're with here, it's it's all coming 2178 01:56:24.399 --> 01:56:26.119 together at this point. 2179 01:56:28.880 --> 01:56:31.640 Yeah, dude, hip, you know, just you may as well 2180 01:56:31.800 --> 01:56:36.479 just hitch on to the metamistics machine and just let 2181 01:56:36.520 --> 01:56:38.560 it take you for a ride. Marv's at the will, 2182 01:56:38.600 --> 01:56:41.560 he knows what's going on. Just let go, you know. 2183 01:56:41.680 --> 01:56:43.439 That's that's all you really got to do, and just 2184 01:56:43.640 --> 01:56:46.640 have fun with it. So thank you so much guys 2185 01:56:46.640 --> 01:56:48.640 for coming on the show. This is a very very 2186 01:56:48.640 --> 01:56:51.359 fun one and we're definitely gonna have to do it again. 2187 01:56:51.399 --> 01:56:53.880 It was great getting to to talk to you, Justin 2188 01:56:54.039 --> 01:56:56.720 and we'll definitely keep in touch with you. But Sean, 2189 01:56:56.800 --> 01:56:57.880 any parting words for you. 2190 01:56:57.800 --> 01:57:01.279 Sir, Oh dude, I'm sure this was a great episode. Man, 2191 01:57:01.319 --> 01:57:03.880 it's fun. It's always fun talking to somebody that really 2192 01:57:03.920 --> 01:57:07.159 has a greater understanding, you know, is really actually putting 2193 01:57:07.159 --> 01:57:09.800 in the work and really trying to figure all of 2194 01:57:09.840 --> 01:57:12.399 this out. I mean, none of us probably will. And 2195 01:57:12.439 --> 01:57:13.960 that's all right, you know what I'm saying. But I 2196 01:57:14.399 --> 01:57:18.439 just appreciate people like you that are actually actually trying 2197 01:57:18.479 --> 01:57:22.000 and trying to utilize your energy in the best way possible. 2198 01:57:22.039 --> 01:57:25.920 And I just appreciate it. Man, So thanks bud yah 2199 01:57:26.279 --> 01:57:26.720 too much. 2200 01:57:27.399 --> 01:57:29.560 All right, Well, look for the one out there who 2201 01:57:29.560 --> 01:57:33.760 are on Patreon, you want to be able to, you know, 2202 01:57:33.880 --> 01:57:35.880 kind of come and meditate with us. That is the 2203 01:57:35.880 --> 01:57:38.319 only place to be able to do it is on Patreon. 2204 01:57:38.439 --> 01:57:39.800 And if you want to be a part of that, 2205 01:57:40.000 --> 01:57:42.520 go to patreon dot com slash metamistics. That link is 2206 01:57:42.520 --> 01:57:44.840 down the show notes below. If you sign up over there, 2207 01:57:45.000 --> 01:57:48.399 you'll get an entire week for free if you just 2208 01:57:48.439 --> 01:57:50.119 want to kind of dip your piggies in the water 2209 01:57:50.199 --> 01:57:52.359 and see if it's warm. I promise you it is 2210 01:57:52.399 --> 01:57:55.000 at least luke all right, that's what we try and 2211 01:57:55.039 --> 01:57:56.800 keep it. And it's not because we peede, it's just 2212 01:57:57.159 --> 01:57:58.600 how we vot. Now I'm just kidding. I don't know 2213 01:57:58.600 --> 01:58:01.880 where the fuck I was going with that, but it 2214 01:58:01.960 --> 01:58:05.039 may impeed, I don't know. So yeah, come and check 2215 01:58:05.079 --> 01:58:06.680 it out and you get a free week if you 2216 01:58:06.720 --> 01:58:08.279 decide that you like it. You can sign up for 2217 01:58:08.319 --> 01:58:10.279 a whole year, and if you do sign up for 2218 01:58:10.319 --> 01:58:13.560 a whole year, you actually get three months off, So 2219 01:58:13.600 --> 01:58:15.600 it's a little bit of a discount that we got 2220 01:58:15.600 --> 01:58:17.560 going on right now. That's only just because we're trying 2221 01:58:17.600 --> 01:58:20.960 to invite as many of the one over to Patreon 2222 01:58:21.000 --> 01:58:23.680 as humanly possible. And if you would go out and 2223 01:58:23.760 --> 01:58:27.800 share this episode, whether you're you're watching it on Patreon 2224 01:58:27.920 --> 01:58:30.319 or you're listening to it on Spotify or Apple or wherever, 2225 01:58:30.760 --> 01:58:33.760 go ahead and share it with you know, the rest 2226 01:58:33.760 --> 01:58:36.960 of your friends with with a genuine curiosity about the 2227 01:58:37.039 --> 01:58:40.079 nature of this reality. Go ahead and share it with everybody. 2228 01:58:40.079 --> 01:58:43.199 You may as well share it with your uncle who 2229 01:58:43.279 --> 01:58:45.640 is an atheist. Be like, yeah, dude, if you are 2230 01:58:45.720 --> 01:58:48.720 so sure that you know what the hell you're talking about, 2231 01:58:48.760 --> 01:58:51.319 go ahead and listen to the goddamn metamistics for a change. 2232 01:58:51.439 --> 01:58:54.520 Maybe they'll just open up your third eye a little bit. So, uh, yeah, 2233 01:58:54.560 --> 01:58:57.239 we appreciate everybody who's already done that. But look, if 2234 01:58:57.239 --> 01:59:01.399 the light's over Loveland and Electro Nick came here and 2235 01:59:01.439 --> 01:59:04.680 they taught you anything, it's that you don't know what 2236 01:59:04.760 --> 01:59:09.520 you don't know. So I'll just get weird, stay weird, 2237 01:59:13.880 --> 01:59:17.359 all right, and we are back. Man, what a wild 2238 01:59:17.439 --> 01:59:17.920 ride that. 2239 01:59:18.079 --> 01:59:23.359 Was due, Man, I had spat dripping off my eyebrow 2240 01:59:24.239 --> 01:59:25.720 doing some work in there. 2241 01:59:25.840 --> 01:59:29.680 Man, I liked that sound. That sound was pretty good. 2242 01:59:30.880 --> 01:59:33.880 That was a good one. Yeah. Yeah, it was weird 2243 01:59:33.960 --> 01:59:38.760 because you know, I'm trying to get a little bit 2244 01:59:38.800 --> 01:59:41.399 more comfortable with the void and not always just look 2245 01:59:41.439 --> 01:59:45.000 at it in a fearful way. But it just made 2246 01:59:45.000 --> 01:59:47.520 me wonder so. And I don't know if I can't 2247 01:59:47.560 --> 01:59:50.119 remember if you went into into detail about this earlier, 2248 01:59:50.159 --> 01:59:54.640 but you had said that something had happened within Was 2249 01:59:54.640 --> 01:59:56.960 it within a mushroom trip or something like that that 2250 01:59:57.119 --> 02:00:01.960 caused you to have some kind of like block. Didn't 2251 02:00:01.960 --> 02:00:03.600 you say something along those lines, or am I making 2252 02:00:03.600 --> 02:00:06.319 that body that was out of body experience? 2253 02:00:06.359 --> 02:00:09.000 That's what you experience gave me the block? Yeah, when 2254 02:00:09.039 --> 02:00:13.880 I got whatever sent like dragged me across my sheets, 2255 02:00:13.960 --> 02:00:16.520 that was That's what's set the fear in. It was 2256 02:00:16.600 --> 02:00:22.720 just like that primal like base survival fear too. It's 2257 02:00:22.880 --> 02:00:28.079 just like it's you think you're like prepared, like that's 2258 02:00:28.119 --> 02:00:30.000 one of the things for going out of body is 2259 02:00:30.039 --> 02:00:33.880 like it's the scariest thing ever when it's happening, because 2260 02:00:33.920 --> 02:00:38.560 you literally feel like you're dying, like you're not supposed 2261 02:00:38.600 --> 02:00:42.079 to be like seeing outside of your body or having 2262 02:00:42.119 --> 02:00:46.119 these experiences. So like that fear that sets in is 2263 02:00:46.199 --> 02:00:50.199 just that like basic primal survival fear. 2264 02:00:51.760 --> 02:00:56.880 But yeah, that sucks whenever you just don't have any 2265 02:00:56.880 --> 02:01:00.920 control over anything and then it's like some thing is 2266 02:01:01.640 --> 02:01:06.119 overtaking you that you are defenseless against. Yeah, man, that's 2267 02:01:06.159 --> 02:01:07.039 the worst feeling. 2268 02:01:06.880 --> 02:01:09.159 Like the reality that you didn't even know was there, 2269 02:01:09.319 --> 02:01:11.960 and all of a sudden, you're just participating in that 2270 02:01:12.279 --> 02:01:14.159 and you've never done it before, and you don't have 2271 02:01:14.239 --> 02:01:17.399 the instruction manual. You've never been And this is a 2272 02:01:17.439 --> 02:01:19.600 thing that I've noticed when I've I feel like I've 2273 02:01:19.640 --> 02:01:22.319 had it, like maybe two of those experiences where I 2274 02:01:22.399 --> 02:01:24.760 was I don't know if I was out of body. 2275 02:01:24.800 --> 02:01:26.840 But there was one time and it kind of was 2276 02:01:26.880 --> 02:01:30.119 similar to your story as far as like things were different, 2277 02:01:30.199 --> 02:01:33.920 Like I was able to be consciously aware and I 2278 02:01:33.960 --> 02:01:36.239 was trying to look out the window for some reason, 2279 02:01:36.239 --> 02:01:38.399 and for whatever reason, it was really hard to keep 2280 02:01:38.399 --> 02:01:40.600 my eyes open, Like I almost felt like I was 2281 02:01:40.600 --> 02:01:43.279 looking through one eye and I looked out the window, 2282 02:01:43.359 --> 02:01:47.319 but the outside was not the outside of where I 2283 02:01:47.479 --> 02:01:49.239 was in that time, at least, you know, before I 2284 02:01:49.279 --> 02:01:52.319 went to sleep, and so it's almost like my reality 2285 02:01:52.439 --> 02:01:55.880 kind of altered a little bit. But I definitely felt 2286 02:01:55.880 --> 02:01:59.920 like I was consciously experiencing some something like and I 2287 02:02:00.000 --> 02:02:05.640 actual place you having that experience, and the curtains in 2288 02:02:05.680 --> 02:02:09.520 front of your closet door or whatever. It was different 2289 02:02:09.640 --> 02:02:13.960 than it were to you know, But yeah, the thing 2290 02:02:13.960 --> 02:02:16.199 that I felt in this other experience where I was 2291 02:02:16.239 --> 02:02:18.079 actually kind of I felt like I was kind of 2292 02:02:18.119 --> 02:02:21.479 floating around inside my own house. And it was definitely 2293 02:02:21.520 --> 02:02:24.119 my house. Everything was laid out kind of exactly the 2294 02:02:24.239 --> 02:02:28.159 same way. But I had this weird sense of like 2295 02:02:29.960 --> 02:02:33.920 some kind of looming dread or something. It was not 2296 02:02:34.039 --> 02:02:36.520 like I was scared because oh I've never done this before, 2297 02:02:36.520 --> 02:02:39.239 but it was almost like a time was of the 2298 02:02:39.399 --> 02:02:42.119 essence type of thing, like I only had so much time, 2299 02:02:42.359 --> 02:02:45.920 or or I don't know what's gonna happen, There's something 2300 02:02:46.159 --> 02:02:48.760 that I might interact with. Maybe I'm not really sure 2301 02:02:48.800 --> 02:02:50.359 what it was going through my head, but there was 2302 02:02:50.359 --> 02:02:55.000 definitely a looming sense of just like I don't know, 2303 02:02:55.279 --> 02:02:57.520 you know, like maybe it's feared. Maybe what I was 2304 02:02:57.560 --> 02:02:59.880 experiencing was just a level of fear that I've never 2305 02:03:00.239 --> 02:03:03.039 experienced before. But I mean I definitely felt like I 2306 02:03:03.079 --> 02:03:05.159 was out of body in that experience for sure. 2307 02:03:05.239 --> 02:03:05.760 Yeah. 2308 02:03:05.800 --> 02:03:07.560 It's definitely weird. 2309 02:03:07.239 --> 02:03:11.399 Definitely, Yeah, And yeah, like the fear is the biggest thing. 2310 02:03:11.479 --> 02:03:13.399 Like when you listen to people who had out of 2311 02:03:13.439 --> 02:03:17.800 body experiences, like Robert Monroe, like he was literally thought 2312 02:03:17.840 --> 02:03:20.840 he was dying when to all like his doctor and 2313 02:03:21.159 --> 02:03:25.319 like got the full check up and everything. And I 2314 02:03:25.319 --> 02:03:29.520 think it's just you have to slowly like overcome that fear. 2315 02:03:30.159 --> 02:03:34.560 And then once you can accept that fear and realize 2316 02:03:34.680 --> 02:03:40.079 that like I like fully believe my consciousness exists outside 2317 02:03:40.119 --> 02:03:44.439 my body and exists probably like forever, like it's an 2318 02:03:44.479 --> 02:03:49.720 internal thing, right, But it's just getting comfortable with that 2319 02:03:49.800 --> 02:03:53.239 fear of like knowing that physical death is going to 2320 02:03:53.319 --> 02:03:56.000 come at some point in this body, even though I've 2321 02:03:56.039 --> 02:04:00.399 probably done it hundreds, if not thousands of times. It's just, yeah, 2322 02:04:00.399 --> 02:04:03.359 it's just that built in primal fear. And I think 2323 02:04:03.960 --> 02:04:07.119 that's the biggest thing, is like that's the obstacle. Once 2324 02:04:07.159 --> 02:04:11.039 you can like overcome that fear, accept it and like 2325 02:04:11.239 --> 02:04:15.800 know that you're good. Nothing can touch you your your good. 2326 02:04:16.279 --> 02:04:20.000 That's when you can get access to like these realms 2327 02:04:20.039 --> 02:04:24.279 that people describe like going to the acostic records and 2328 02:04:24.319 --> 02:04:28.319 going to all these different like realms basically, like Tom 2329 02:04:28.439 --> 02:04:32.439 Campbell describes going to all kinds of different dimensions, and 2330 02:04:33.239 --> 02:04:35.600 he describes the same way. It's just that fear. You 2331 02:04:35.600 --> 02:04:38.479 have to learn to control the fear. And then it's 2332 02:04:38.520 --> 02:04:42.199 also you can't want it, as like the more you 2333 02:04:42.239 --> 02:04:45.239 want it, the more you build that resistance away from it. 2334 02:04:45.319 --> 02:04:49.119 So it's it's letting go and letting go of fear. 2335 02:04:49.560 --> 02:04:53.920 It almost makes sense. It's almost like a survival protective 2336 02:04:54.039 --> 02:04:56.920 mechanism within your own mind. It's like you can't have 2337 02:04:57.239 --> 02:05:01.760 just all the knowledge you want unless you're able to 2338 02:05:02.039 --> 02:05:04.680 handle some of that, you know, like are you suited, 2339 02:05:04.960 --> 02:05:07.319 have you been meditating? Are you kind of like a 2340 02:05:07.359 --> 02:05:10.520 well balanced person? You know? Are you treating others right? 2341 02:05:10.680 --> 02:05:14.800 Like all these like basic fundamental things. It's like you 2342 02:05:14.840 --> 02:05:16.720 have that under control, because if you have all that 2343 02:05:16.800 --> 02:05:20.279 under control and you can get through the initial fear 2344 02:05:20.359 --> 02:05:22.600 of getting out of body and still kind of keep 2345 02:05:22.600 --> 02:05:26.880 your composure and not be just lost to astonishment, you know, 2346 02:05:27.039 --> 02:05:29.520 now you can access some of the deeper stuff because 2347 02:05:29.560 --> 02:05:31.680 we know and I don't know who the wei is, 2348 02:05:31.720 --> 02:05:34.640 but that you're going to be able to at least 2349 02:05:35.319 --> 02:05:38.279 put that to good use. Almost, you know, you know. 2350 02:05:38.520 --> 02:05:41.479 I almost look at it like, you know, whenever we 2351 02:05:41.560 --> 02:05:45.319 were babies, we didn't really have a clue about how 2352 02:05:45.319 --> 02:05:47.359 to handle this reality, which is why I think we 2353 02:05:47.439 --> 02:05:50.479 come in crying and kicking and screaming and all that shit, Right, 2354 02:05:50.520 --> 02:05:53.119 And it takes us so many years to learn words 2355 02:05:53.159 --> 02:05:54.960 and to learn how to walk, and learn how to 2356 02:05:55.000 --> 02:05:57.920 do math and all this kind of stuff. And then 2357 02:05:57.960 --> 02:06:00.920 when we get to the like this astral realm or 2358 02:06:00.920 --> 02:06:04.199 this deep meditative state or what have you, it's like 2359 02:06:05.079 --> 02:06:07.439 we get scared because I don't know what to do. 2360 02:06:07.479 --> 02:06:10.840 So automatically you go into like this weird fear like state, 2361 02:06:10.920 --> 02:06:14.600 especially if you're coming in contact with scenes or beings 2362 02:06:14.800 --> 02:06:19.560 or rhythms or whatever that you're unfamiliar with. Obviously, the 2363 02:06:19.640 --> 02:06:22.079 unknown is going to send you into somewhat of a 2364 02:06:22.119 --> 02:06:26.479 fearful state, and especially if you know there's things that 2365 02:06:26.680 --> 02:06:30.199 seem to be more intelligent than you in there. And 2366 02:06:31.319 --> 02:06:33.479 and so I do think that it probably just takes 2367 02:06:33.520 --> 02:06:34.359 a little bit of time. 2368 02:06:34.520 --> 02:06:34.720 You know. 2369 02:06:34.800 --> 02:06:37.840 This is why like yogis and mystics and gurus and 2370 02:06:37.880 --> 02:06:39.840 sages and all that kind of stuff, they devote their 2371 02:06:39.960 --> 02:06:42.840 entire life to stuff like this, to where they don't 2372 02:06:42.880 --> 02:06:46.439 worry about going to have a job and having kids 2373 02:06:46.600 --> 02:06:49.560 and you know, and and having all these different attachments 2374 02:06:49.560 --> 02:06:52.359 and all the different sufferings of the world and whatnot, 2375 02:06:52.560 --> 02:06:57.439 because they're trying to almost like get branched back onto 2376 02:06:57.720 --> 02:07:00.760 from which they came, kind of thing, back onto that 2377 02:07:00.880 --> 02:07:04.039 highway that so many people have past life regressions or 2378 02:07:04.479 --> 02:07:07.439 near death experiences and stuff like that. And it's like, oh, 2379 02:07:07.479 --> 02:07:10.680 that place feels more like home than even home feels like. 2380 02:07:11.319 --> 02:07:14.039 And I don't know, man, I'm trying to get a 2381 02:07:14.039 --> 02:07:16.359 little bit more familiar with it myself, but yeah, there's 2382 02:07:16.359 --> 02:07:18.600 still something about that damn fear. And you know one 2383 02:07:18.640 --> 02:07:20.560 thing that I wouldn't you know, because I had the 2384 02:07:20.600 --> 02:07:24.960 mindfold on whenever I was meditating, but whenever I was 2385 02:07:25.000 --> 02:07:27.600 doing that, I dude, it gets so damn dark in there. 2386 02:07:27.800 --> 02:07:30.640 How anybody sees anything through that is crazy to me. 2387 02:07:31.079 --> 02:07:32.960 You know, Like the people that can see without their eyes, 2388 02:07:33.000 --> 02:07:35.840 I'm like, I hope that I can see that one 2389 02:07:35.920 --> 02:07:39.199 day because it is pitch black in there. It's like crazy, 2390 02:07:39.239 --> 02:07:43.479 but but it's a real good, uh like simulation for 2391 02:07:43.600 --> 02:07:47.560 the void, you know, like in complete and total blackness. 2392 02:07:47.560 --> 02:07:50.800 And it just reminds me like I was there, Maybe 2393 02:07:50.840 --> 02:07:53.119 I was of the beginning of all things where it 2394 02:07:53.279 --> 02:07:55.760 you know, the there was there was, there was only 2395 02:07:55.800 --> 02:07:59.359 one consciousness inside of the void, and and and that 2396 02:07:59.399 --> 02:08:03.560 one conscious business expanded and created everything. And one thing 2397 02:08:03.560 --> 02:08:05.840 that we've learned about symbolism as far as like black 2398 02:08:05.880 --> 02:08:09.960 and white, is that, yeah, the color white, it embodies 2399 02:08:10.079 --> 02:08:13.000 all colors, right, Like that's the idea of white is 2400 02:08:13.039 --> 02:08:15.640 that it embodies all colors. And the idea of blackness 2401 02:08:15.720 --> 02:08:18.479 or darkness, you know, is always seen as something to 2402 02:08:18.479 --> 02:08:22.560 be scared of or something that's without. But the idea 2403 02:08:22.800 --> 02:08:25.640 is is that that is the place from which all 2404 02:08:25.720 --> 02:08:29.680 creation comes from, is from the darkness or from that void, 2405 02:08:29.760 --> 02:08:33.640 that is where the imagination has to start building. And 2406 02:08:34.119 --> 02:08:37.279 so there's not really you shouldn't necessarily be scared of 2407 02:08:37.319 --> 02:08:40.119 it or try to avoid the void. It's more so 2408 02:08:40.159 --> 02:08:42.399 that whenever you do get the opportunity to go there, 2409 02:08:42.880 --> 02:08:44.680 try and see what you can create. And that's what 2410 02:08:44.720 --> 02:08:46.479 I was trying to do. Whenever I was in there, 2411 02:08:46.520 --> 02:08:49.119 I was like, you know what, I'm not just a 2412 02:08:49.159 --> 02:08:53.039 tiny little speck inside of the void. I encompass the void. 2413 02:08:53.079 --> 02:08:55.239 The void is inside me, you know, and I'm going 2414 02:08:55.319 --> 02:08:56.880 to start creating. So that's what I was trying to 2415 02:08:56.920 --> 02:09:00.159 do in that meditation, and dude, out of nowhere, I 2416 02:09:00.279 --> 02:09:06.079 just like this blue sphere like just appeared. It was crazy, 2417 02:09:06.159 --> 02:09:07.560 like I don't know if it was happening in my 2418 02:09:07.600 --> 02:09:10.319 mind's eye or what, but maybe it was. But it 2419 02:09:10.399 --> 02:09:15.239 was so much different than just like visualizing something. And 2420 02:09:15.319 --> 02:09:16.840 whenever I saw it, I was really trying to hone 2421 02:09:16.880 --> 02:09:19.279 in on it. And it was weird because I almost 2422 02:09:19.279 --> 02:09:21.600 got like this overwhelming sense of fear that this thing 2423 02:09:21.680 --> 02:09:23.680 was here before me. So maybe it has more power 2424 02:09:23.720 --> 02:09:26.319 than I do. It's just back to that fearful state. 2425 02:09:26.239 --> 02:09:26.439 You know. 2426 02:09:27.000 --> 02:09:29.439 And I was like, no, no, I put that there. 2427 02:09:29.800 --> 02:09:32.159 I'm gonna paint it. And so I started adding a 2428 02:09:32.199 --> 02:09:33.800 little bit of green to it, and before you know it, 2429 02:09:33.800 --> 02:09:35.439 it started to become earth. And I was like, oh, 2430 02:09:35.520 --> 02:09:37.920 that's probably how it started, you know, learn something like 2431 02:09:37.960 --> 02:09:39.800 that figured it out? 2432 02:09:39.880 --> 02:09:40.199 Dude. 2433 02:09:40.439 --> 02:09:44.399 Yeah, yeah, So man, weird stuff that can happen inside 2434 02:09:44.399 --> 02:09:46.840 of a meditation. It's just a it's a fun place 2435 02:09:46.920 --> 02:09:51.279 to be, you know. But yeah, I think, uh, well, 2436 02:09:51.359 --> 02:09:53.399 we've been going long enough. I think we're gonna wrap 2437 02:09:53.399 --> 02:09:55.680 this bad boy up right now. But justin thank you 2438 02:09:55.720 --> 02:09:57.239 so much for hanging out with us than I, dude, 2439 02:09:57.279 --> 02:09:58.960 and we would definitely love to do it again. And 2440 02:09:58.960 --> 02:10:02.600 maybe we'll get together for a little meet and greet 2441 02:10:02.680 --> 02:10:04.399 with the outsiders. 2442 02:10:04.800 --> 02:10:10.079 Yeah that would be awesome. Yeah, oh yeah, and once again, 2443 02:10:10.159 --> 02:10:13.039 thanks so much for having me on. Like I've been 2444 02:10:13.079 --> 02:10:15.640 wanting to get out on a more podcast and like 2445 02:10:15.880 --> 02:10:19.560 try to branch out and get my name out there more. So, 2446 02:10:20.000 --> 02:10:23.159 like I appreciate that invite. 2447 02:10:23.560 --> 02:10:25.880 Yeah, dude, well it's gonna get seen and listen to 2448 02:10:26.000 --> 02:10:29.199 by thousands of the one It's all just one experience anyway, 2449 02:10:29.279 --> 02:10:32.000 but yeah, we appreciate it. Man. We'll definitely do it again. 2450 02:10:32.079 --> 02:10:35.399 But until next time, we'll see everybody on the flip side. 2451 02:10:35.880 --> 02:10:38.439 I guess all right, later. 2452 02:10:38.960 --> 02:11:22.880 Later, dude, keep 2453 02:11:29.159 --> 02:11:35.760 Compkeep